Conversations About Crippin

your room? So yeah, once you get the egg crate down to help your room and the bounce back. But I thought you weren't doing the show that I had my hand on the doorknob to go to lows. I'm with the target earlier and they don't sell those tastes. I was gonna get that, you know, divider deals and wrap it and then put the crate on that. Yeah, didn't have room. So what you know about cripp and pete? And was like a vague question, right, what honestly do

you feel you know about cripping? And what I mean? Like am I saying what context? I mean to as time sensitive as possible with the answer, Well, just just run down the things you feel you know about cripping at this point in time now over the years, because that kind of has changed. Like the first time I really was around cripts a lot was in Phoenix. Obviously, like they got some they got some serious cript guys down.

They ain't playing, they do. But it's a lot different culture. Sure, it's it's it's is cripping mixed with you know, Arizona culture. So then Arizona has its own culture and then they mix it. But that's every every state in the country. You know, they take their city city, you know what I mean. So you'll see it's kind of like they're happened to be gangs and they happen to be called

the Cripts there. It's how kind of more describe it? Well, it's more that's maybe I would say, like like if you were in Memphis like that, then you think they're all crips, Like that's the thing. It's just again their culture from where they're from tied into crippen. So what exactly I mean obviously you know crips right, um they wear blue right or crips say cause yeah, the spellings the bank to the left side, all the stuff, the

blue and everything like that. The I know that in l A. You know, you kind of at least on the west side generally you got your neighborhoods and your gangsters, and you know, in theory you would assume that crypts are gonna bang his bloods all the time, but that it's not really how how it plays the album. Reality in real life much more practical. Um. Other than that, I would have saw him was just kind of like, hey, look, you made a decision to be a part of this.

You in it now, You're gonna be in it here, You're gonna probably getting locked up, and it's gonna help you out when you're there. It's gonna help you out when you're here. Don't funk around. It's kind of like a maybe a Leslie Rigid Mafia or the way that Mafia turned out to be. Probably by the time the probably in a real time, by the time the Mafia got into the eighties, when cript really got started, they

were probably both about fairly similar. You had duels that were rapping in the mafia, guys who're snitching and cripping and you know whatever else, and people about to switch families. I know what's his name, switched families, Sam in the Bowl. I think it was so so Cripps started in sixty nine mm right, um, it's created it to two brothers create product, and the most famous and credited brother is

Raymond Washington. So they grew up in what area would be considered East Coast, like seventy six wise Worth, okay Um. They expanded to the West Side in seventy one, seventy two, seventy one, So that's how Tooky and all of the rest of the West Side cribs got involved. So that became spreading right. Um, when it did it? Like when it started? Was it just where the crips? And when did it become like East Coast crips or Broadways or her or main streets whoever it's like right over there.

When did it start becoming like franchise so to speak? Seventy seventy three people started kind of breaking off doing their own little thing. Yet it wasn't as bad, but they started breaking off. I think it's seventy to seventy three because remember you have East Side cribs, right, and

then you have West Side crips. So immediately that's the first break, and then Inglewood Crips and into play, and then Compton Crips came into play, so it was always Linwood Crips, you know, the pomberos Um, so it kind of already was separated, I mean, and then they start breaking down into even smaller factions obviously, which is how

you got a trays different gangs. So in the seventies, like now, the last many years, as long as I've been able to you know, really be like in l A l A, like that's over a decade and a half. Probably there's a palpable difference between the east Side and the West Side just being there. So economics that it's mostly stemming from economics, for sure, and also I think economics doesn't affect that is affected by economics. But like

some of those areas were actually physically constructed in different decades. Sure, yeah, yeah, as far as uh not really oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah, but I don't think that was havhing to do with They were both all constructed, both east Side

and West Side. As far as where gangs, we were constructive before crips became a thing, for sure, but by sixty nine yeah, okay, but by the time that like Second in seventy one, per se wasn't as dramatic of a landscape change like or difference rather culturally as it is now. It's it got magnified or is it about always been the same? This has always been the same. The East Side is just you know, it's just different. The poverty is different. You know what we were allowed.

It was kind of for us to be there earlier. Yeah, you know what I mean, Like, um, the projects wasn't made for black people. Black people just got into the projects obviously. You know the history because there's some interesting stories about that, like like the story of Dogtown projects, how there's so many black people rushed into the projects initially,

uh in South at the pubbles Down and Dogtown. It was kind of the first one that wasn't deep deep, like we were the pink projects away up there that they just tore down mm hmm. And they actually the city actually said we're not gonna allow black people in these projects. It's just like which was to me, it was like it's wild. Yeah, but again it's just before the civil Rights law was passed and and also projects

were built. Housing projects were built based around military and and as a housing place for military and ship like that. But we're kind of getting lost. The reason I was asking is right now, on the internet, there's this guy. He's like a cultural sensation. His name is c Mac crip mac um baby c Max, So that means he's

the third c Mac of those guys. Right, So you have big little, So big is the is the first, Little is the second, Baby is the third tiny, So if it's a tiny c Mac, that's the fourth is the fifth c Mac, which would be the fifth version of whoever that name is. And they call the sixth one. Some people call him Embryo and some people say six. So it's a guy named Hoover. He calls himself Jack

six because he's the sixth version of Jack. Right, So there's a guy his name is Baby c Mac c Mac crip mac, and he's from a gang called Rolling fifties Neighborhood five five crept small gang on the west side. Right. Well, yeah, because those gangs right are so it's a few of them right in that section, but they very much are

a power gang. You know, they're not smarter, but they're they're really like, you know, they they've been representing their own section and holding it down like they're their fourth and not just some You're not gonna push those guys over. They do their stuff, but not very large. No no, no, it's not it's not huge. It's it's fifty fIF street,

a couple of streets right there. So people got a bar of him on the internet and the way, you know, culturally he spoke the way the fifty fifth street then speak, you know, um, changing every number into five and stay. Anything that feels like five as a word, they change it into a file. So instead of saying, uh, I'll give this to you, they say I'll give this to I'll give this five you. So instead of two, they'll say right so the game. So instead of saying you

feel me, they'll say you five me? Right um. Instead of saying they say nickel. Anyways, it's just a complete cultural thing, you know. It's community like all of our communities have and are the neighborhood a pretty much every gang that's a rolling gang, pretty much every gang outside of the thirties that are rolling gang or neighborhood gangs for the most part, I can't stand by, but I know for sure the thirties are not a neighborhood gang.

They're rolling gang still, So long story short, he takes the internet by storm, right, he's super super culturally phenomenal. You know. You hear him talk is get down, you know, and you could tell, like you know, he's been a

part of the culture. Well recently, Um, things from his past started to come to forward, some things he was doing when he was younger, and they aren't very cool things to do, right, Um, as a gang member, right, snitching is the worst thing you could do, right, that's for sure, as any criminal, snitching is the worst thing you could do. The second thing that's pretty crappy is being a set hop Okay, like being form one set and then joining another set. That's like, actually, really, at

least when I grew up, it was whack. That was the worst thing you want to be, I mean, and it would it would always be hard for you to have that same respect when I came into the game, to be a set up like you just really never would get the same respect. And those guys really have to go through a lot. Yeah, I mean, Um, long story short, this these things come from his past, and I don't know quite if he made his homies aware

as a whole of what his past was. But arrival and different people from different communities started making his past you know, present to where everybody would know what was going on. And Mac, you know, I met Mac. He's a real He's a good dude, cool dude, and he's explaining himself on the Internet. He's like, Yo, this is what happened. And the explanations are like, you know, they're authentic to his experience, but they do sound crazy where

it's like, damn long story short. So either between the fact that he was from another gang, whatever the reasons were, the shame itself resulted in his homies deeping what we call depeeing him, disciplining him. DP stands for discipline. Right, he has a video camera and and this is kind of my only concern from his perspective, because I really like him. My concern from his perspective right as an entertainer, as a content creator, is some of this ship you

have to kind of leave in the streets. You can't bring every last thing. And he's on camera on his way to his neighborhood to get what we call a discipline. Um shows up no footage when he's leaving. He's back

on camera. Now you can tell he's been in the fight, you know, severe that, like he's been in a real fight, and he's explaining the things to the fans or who we would call his fans at that point, and I'm just listening to the whole thing as it's happening, like wow, Like I wish he would have kept us off the net now for his career and optics that one or it was. I think it's great for his career, but it's bad for his community relations as far as a

gang member. In my book, I didn't know which side you thought it was bad for great, it's great to do yourself to the general public. But and you think that did that well, I I think that was the first problem. Now I can't again, I'm not in the mix. So I don't know why his homeie said, hey, you need to come over here and run yours. I don't know. But what I can and say is I don't know if his homies discipline him if they were aware of

this information. Okay, So I would like to believe his homies weren't aware of this information, and that's hence why you know the discipline procedures were called into effect. Um do you have a motory of that not being disciplined, But have you had to actively discipline people from your set over the years, are not really in your neighborhood once or twice? Yeah? Um? And and this is what I want to talk to you about. This is where it gets crazy, right, because all of this kind of

cultural stuff really don't have relevance to you. But this is where it can and this is where things come together at. So there's two things I want to talk about with you when it came to cripping in general. Right. The first thing is how he explain how the DP went. Right. He was saying he was so good with his hands. The first three or four guys that was disciplining him, he was, I guess getting the better of him. Right.

So now I'm not gonna pretty much tell the general public you know, I was getting the better of my homies in a discipline or any situation. Right. I probably wouldn't tell my homies I'm getting the better of my friends in the discipline situation, right, because that's private information for me in my community. Yeah right. Um, But he's explaining it, and he's saying ten or more people was a part of the discipline that's not cool, like if

ten or more of your homies are assaulting you. I've talked to a couple of o g s from the East Side, West Side, different gangs, and I realized I wasn't crazy. I don't know how much of friends we are because real gang bang is rooted and this is this is my second point. Real gang banging is rooted in you know, shared experiences with people you grew up with, right And it brings me to my next point, which was when somebody is a foreigner to your soil. We've

talked about this. It's a really popular thing going on right now where people are driving twenty two eighty miles to join a gang in someone else's community that they didn't grow up in. So those two things stuck out to me with this whole particular situation. Yeah, is one how many people was involved with the discipline, with the with the assault, you know, and you're saying that and that he's coming out the internet. I'm saying, I'm harder than everybody from my hood. It took him tent or no,

It definitely, it definitely can have that feel. It's not far to have that feel. I mean it definitely could have that feel. I don't quite know if that's what I got from it, but it does have a face kind of spinning, and I don't know if it's even safe face. But my issue is the fact when he said ten or more yeah, right, and right after he said this, immediately a video comes out that's not flattering to to to who he is. Right, So I think again, the internet is affecting the corner like it's got to

be a different level of embarrassment. It has to be a different level of pressure to keep your reputation solid. But like I said, that, the ten or more people disciplining you, that's a lot. I don't think even when I was so this is my thing, right, And again it goes to my second point. I wasn't the greatest

gang member. I didn't think I would even be good at gang banging dog at cripp and I didn't think I would be good at it because it seems like the people involved at times, they're not all the way there. That's how it seems. It's crazy because some of the people I know that are the most intelligent and brightest people are guys that I've either watched, you know, I

grew up under or guys I grew up with. There's some really smart, intelligent people in the culture, right sore, Just so we're clear, how do you mean like the driveway don't go all the way to the garage? I know I know the reference, but do you mean like it's because people are high, or because they're just caught up in the moment, clouding the judgment, or like how how are you saying? So the thing about gang banging,

right and cripping it, it's very accepting to anyone. It's harder to be a boy scout than it is to be a crypt. It's harder to to to be a boy scout than it is to be a crypt. Like gang banging is a very accepting culture. It will accept societies frowned upon, you know, with open arms, and make a place for you to thrive and have friends and family and respect and all of these different concepts you know,

to be successful. That's something. But I wasn't the greatest cript growing up, Like I got caught it on probably two days before my sixteenth birthday. I just didn't really the niggas that courted me own right, they were niggas I've been known since I was a little kid. We probably was four or five years old. They're a couple of years older than me. But again, I didn't think I would be good at it. I didn't realize I would be good at it until I went to jail.

That's when I knew I was gonna be just fine. But whenever I would have moments that weren't flattering to cripping or being a gangster, my homies didn't beat me up over it, right. They would take me and explain to me, hey man, this is how you gotta do it. Like I remember Moon, you know, my my older homie, Moon explaining to me why I had to fight people that was from the hood. I remember Pluck explaining to me why I had to shoot some people, making very

logical sense. I remember different things where they you know, shady, you know, them bringing the best man out of me if I was gonna survive in the culture, right, bringing the greatest man out of me. They didn't kick my ass because I got it wrong. M hm. You know, long as I had to the basic bare minimums together. Do not tell the police on somebody else's don't implicate someone into a crime, don't inform the police on what you know about crimes, so things you know before you

get involved. So again I think like even in that situation, it probably wasn't as bad as what happened. But it goes back to that second point. Someone's a foreigner to the soil. And I think the reason Moon and them did me a certain way in treating me like that is I've been seeing more since I was four years

old driving by. I've been seeing plugs since I was five or six years old, shady since seven year As though, my homies that are you know, my generation, they came and we played in the yard together, we played basketball on the street. No I would say what's up to them when I'm walking to the store. Now we knew

each other since kids. Um, the guys that are young now, this new generation, some of them were the first babies I ever held infant, Like my little humboy watch Boy Sun Troy is the second kid, you know, the second out of the wound kid I've ever held in my life. So even right now, if me and watch Boy disagree, that's my little man, because that is my guy. Now, this nigga grown ass cripes seven children then did everything

he needed to do to get his respect. But no matter how I see him, I see him as this little baby. I held, this little dude I bought stuff from off the ice cream truck for. So the bond in in the in the in the pain in my heart when something happens to him is different, you know what I mean. It's a real that's really my little brother. That's really my little nigga. Fill me no matter what, whether we disagree or not. And I would hope he has the same bond like Glasses is really my guy.

Like we have the same bond for each other. Um, but I think it's because we really grew up together. When you listen to c mac as he tells this story, specifically, he's explaining, you know, living in Chino Hills, you know, somewhere to you know, when he became from Safeties somewhere after that he moved to Texas somewhere after that he

was in Vegas, right, So we're talking about a guy. Yeah, yeah, And I think he looks older because of you know, his habits what I'm saying, like his health habits like drinking or you know, I don't know because I don't know what, because dude, I know you drank Old English and I know for sure old English age your ass. Yeah yeah, well, I mean the older. It's a relative term. I didn't mean he's not. I think he's a lot closer to to turn in thirty then turning forty. Yeah. Yeah.

But like for a guy who's like rap career is kind of young, like a lot of guys whose rap careers are kind of young can be themselves kind of young. Like you know, I think Mac is probably anywhere between twenty eight and thirty, right, um, But anyway, I think that's the problem, and I think that's what's wrong with gang banging and cripping now. Is the reason snitching is at all time high, this madness is at all time high. Is these guys don't know each other. They didn't grow

up next door neighbors. They didn't play where they were five and six years old. They didn't shoot marbles with each other. They didn't walk to the store and people gave them ship because they were from this community together. Like before I was ever from the seven, I was from the seventh. Whenever I went to my pop's house on the weekend that Thursday and we go, you know, I catched the bus to my dad house and we're there. We walking to school Friday, and we're hanging out Saturday, Sunday,

Monday and all that. You from the seven. If you go to Mona Park for me and you went, you know, I'm with Little j and I'm with Motto Rest His Soul. And I'm with Shawny Wanni and I'm with fifty you know the hummies. Oh that's them little boys from off Hunter Set Street, Day from the seven. So even if all of us wasn't quite corded in or activated as far as gang banging goals, we were all from a hundred and sevent t street. If I'm walking with Ron Ron and and and and I'm sorry, I'm just naming

like name the childhood names. Ron Ron, if I'm walking with the Wine, if I'm walking with Russ, if I'm walking with Day you know slow Polke. If I'm walking with those guys and we're going to the Pink Store and Imperial you know Courts Housing Project. Oh that's some boys from off the seven. Culturally, you are from. Where you're from has nothing to do with violence, has nothing to do with crime. Culturally, everybody identifies your community. You're

from that and you are that community. The gang part just becomes the military part of it, the infantry part of it, or the economic part of it. You know, when you become from the gang. It's people that's from the seven right from a hundred to seventy Street that are not a part of the gang, but the culturally from a hundred and seventy Street, and they are proud of it, and they let you know and you recognize it. But that don't mean they are corded in and activated

in the military part of it. They're not a part of the early part of it per se, but they are very much from the community. So it's very And this is weird because this is weird coming from me because culturally I grew up in Compton and Watts pretty much as many days a week m hmm. So even though I grew up, you know, at my mom's house, we grew up in the Richland forms. I've never claimed

Forum Dog, I've never claimed Occasion Block. But culturally those are my friends, and should I would do things to you over my friends. But again, it's it's just a weird situation to me, man, where it's like I think these things are happening in gangs. Now I was not not just the pressure, not just don't steal my name, still don't steal my name. I am the honorable Glasses Malone. You see this fro, you probably have to start calling me brother g man from now My face looked hello, big,

don't it camera, Honorable Glasses Malone. Let me see there's two stand out to me here with this fro. You might have to start calling me brother ge Okay, I look like Cassius Clay and sixty six. Who is that doing the back step? I look like Stefan? Yeah, we hear you. Stephan? What's that the man? What's that? Chris? I don't know who that was. I think it was Stepan because he was kind of bigger than Chris. Chris Leanard and that so long story short, um, long story short.

M hmm. I think that's what's wrong with gangbanging with cripping, right, and this is we're watching a situation play out publicly in front of the world, and all of the things that were my fear as gangbanging is evolving or devolving into where it is now, right mm hmm. Every time you pull the slip is starting to show. There's two things that stand out to me with this situation, one of them being like, this guy is like the spokesperson and the spokesmodel for that hood, you know, honestly in

today's society, not even for that hood. Mac is like the spokesmodel for cripping, you know, as far social media is concerned. Mac see makes a popular crip, you know, as far as social media and and that content is concerned. So he represents a lot more than just five five, Which is why I can understand if the five five discipline him right because of embarrassment of what is going on and they were not made aware of, you know, his past indiscretions, because now and then then he's explaining

it too. He's explaining it to society before they're being informed. I hope that's not the case. Are you ready, big bro? Are you trying to come back? So those two things right, like, um, how your homies is handling you and why they are handling you this way? I don't think it's no way Tick Tack allows ten. You know my homie Boom you met Booe ones there. I don't believe there's no way possible Boo would allow ten homies feel me to to

deal with me in any true capacity. I don't believe there's no way possible, pluck, let's ten homies deal with me on no matter what the issue is, moon shady tone for mean man, it's no way. I believe that. I don't believe there's no And those are my older homies. I don't believe there's no way, Little Jay, you know fifty the guys are my generation or even like Royn Royn or slow Poke or Russ. I don't believe there's no way they let ten homies handle me. I think that,

but then the culture would know that's inappropriate. Ten and significance, like touching up like that by ten is not a significant touch and no up. Ten men, you were not friends, bro. That sounds like we're asking you to leave. Yeah, we're not friends no more. That's a lot like ten men. I got a homie name, Big Two. I got a homie name, Big two, Big Tools on death Row. Big Tools a real solid crap, just so sick nigger. But that's the o G hommy. I got love for cause.

But Big two is six fucking five close to six six right six five close to six six four hundred pounds, And I don't think they would allow ten of us to get at him. Yeah, And that's my point, Pete, it's how are we friends if you allow ten men to deal with me period for anything? Yeah, I Almo, sounds like a prison gang hit ten. I mean that's so fund do you need ten holmies. I don't think it would take ten of us to DP Mike Tyson. No, you only have two hands see me, at best five

of them. That's the DP Mike Tyson exactly when he says I got the better of the first three or four. What are you like Jean Claude van dam in a scription movie? And again like you and again I think five or six of us could DP Tyson Fury. Yeah, so because you could only only sony people can even get in front of you. Half of are gonna be hitting you in the back, exactly in the back of the hand. So for ten men to hold to punish him, I don't think you don't like me, So it's virtually impossible.

And I verified it with some the hommies from different communities. A couple of jomies says, a couple of gummy from the hoods for content ji niggas, And I was like, yeah, when I asked my hommie, I asked, pluck, I save me you and that ten niggas talk about me like hell no, I'm like And I thought about why welcome my big brother podcast extraordinaire music exactly extraordinary God from yesterday, big motherfucking still, what's going on? Fellas? What's going on? Fellas?

That seemed like y'all got a real profound conversation going on. Yeah, yeah, just it just took a notch up jazz anyway. So I was explaining to Pete. I was explaining to Pete,

um what what like I was. I was getting him up to speed on who Baby crypt Mac was, Baby c Mac is, And I was explaining to him, you know, without all the extra details of what exactly went wrong, but his homies feeling, you know, his homies feeling like he did something incorrect, you know, in the line of representing fifty fifty and how they decided to you know,

discipline him. And I was explaining him that The reason I know is because babyc Mac was explaining it right after the discipline and he was saying it was ten or more people, and I was explaining the peak about cripping, right is there's two things that are starting to worry me today. Right. The two things are one, how you treat the people from your community, Like, why the fuck would it take ten people to discipline one homie? And I was explaining the peat it wouldn't take six of

us to discipline the heavyweight champion of the world. No. Actually, at some point when you whenever you're in some kind of metlate that more people there are jumping on one personally, you just yeah, it's just it's a Bumble's not enough surface area at that point, you're just covering up. There ain't enough places to hit. Like, six of us could dp Tyson Fury. Six seven street niggas for sure could

discipline Tyson. We would beat the ship out of Tyson Fury. Now, I'm not saying the heavyweight champion wouldn't land a couple of good shots when it starts, we'll see. The thing is, when you're talking about someone with that level of skill, don't he's gonna take out a couple of people. No, he's not. He's gonna drop some people and he's gonna get itself hurt. Yeah, it's gonna be a couple of people get knocked out nobody's gonna get knocked out. They're

gonna get dropped, right, They're gonna get dropped. The problem is when the niggas behind you start hitting you, and then the niggas get up because this is something we're used to, they're gonna That's the thing about the gang Bang world never understood. That's why when I came to first came to California and people were talking about, Hey, we want you to be from our neighborhood, and they was getting at me and stuff I've never costand the idea of some man trying to throw on this stuff,

go discipline me, Well, it's not. It's not. You go to jail. The judge discipline you all the time. Yeah, I'm not going to jail. I'll never go do no crime. She I'm never doing no type. You already give got away with it because all it takes the judge in the court room. Who do you think you think you is? Just because I'm America, don't mean you could discipline me. See that's different because you're talking about the court of law.

We have rules in society that rules. No, not that, because they're just rules that we have for our society. If we didn't have. We have chaos that we didn't have those rules. Same thing in the hood, we have rules without it. In the neighborhood, we have chaos. So that's what you need discipline to enforce the rules. Otherwise they're just platifs. So you you you're saying, like what we do or like what the community I'm from is different than the United States of America or California or

any other place. It's the same exact thing. Well, you know, gangbanging in this self and cheat has rules of his own that no one on the outside would ever understand. I don't think so. I think everybody understand every rule. I think a snitch at the highest level in America, it's called a motherfucking spy. Well, you know, I don't know who baby c mcils. That's the that's the kid that's been going around online and on gaining some popularity online, right, Yeah,

really funny dude, Yeah, he's a funny guy. Um. You know. The thing is with this whole internet thing, though, I can see why gang bangers would have a problem with that, I don't think. I don't I don't think they had a problem. Still, I don't think the problem was him being on the internet. I think certain real aspects. Now, this is the thing. I'm still ignorant because I haven't asked him five five, like, oh, what exactly was the discipline?

For all we saw was his past unfold. Next thing, you know, he's telling us and I'm going to the hood to get disciplined. So I would like to believe the number one thing is they were not aware of his past transgressions. What do you do? See how I'm not you know, I don't go online. He's a story and mean it's weird because okay, so I'll explain it to you from an American point of view to where you can understand it. Right, Um, he was the citizen of another country, okay, and he came over here right

without declaring that he was a citizen from Russia. Right. He he came and joined this country without informing his friends that he was a citizen of another country or in another military. So he was flipped lopping what they call the set hopping. Right, and then also right that actual military kicked him out. Oh so he's not from that unit no more. No, no, the first military he was a part of. Say, so he got put off

set pretty much. He got put off. So what it was was he was from six oh, and whatever happened, they decided that he was not qualified, and they put him off six oh. They cord him off. Multiple men, you know, physically assaulted him. And this bar and and this barred him from said community. And and and also he has a Facebook page. And on his Facebook page,

you know he is and this is old. This is roughly ten years ago, ten nine years ago, he's pretty much claiming and posting and acting like he's from the rival gang of the gang he's from now. So there was maybe a post to where he was saying, I'm you know, this is Hoover. You know, he's a killer, neighborhood killer, I'm from Hoover. And then he was posting and supporting gangster crips, right, which he's a five five neighborhood crip. He seems like he's kind of loss a

little bit, yes, right, ten years a little loss. And that's the thing, you know, you know, I would lible to have a conversation with him, gee, because see we got a couple of things that have played here, right, And I've always thought this about him. I thought he

was a funny guy. I thought he had a lot of you know, careers, mother, he's funny, um, but I think we have to look at some point he may have some mental issues, bro, because that's not never then I don't want to talk about that because people are saying that, and he's the he's vehemediately declined that that's not what's going on. He's obviously it is. You know that. The thing is I can't say obviously, yeah he does.

He wants to belong from somewhere. He wants to belong, seems like and again, get into the and and and I don't want to get into the depth of why that is right, which well, no, I take that back, Yes I do, but maybe but this but this is why, and this is the point I'm saying. Right, So my first issue with the whole scenario is how many men it took to carry out his discipline. You don't look like he's the most menacine guy in the world either, No,

but but again, that that's a whole eno. I don't I don't know what menace look like, but you know what I'm saying, menacine looked like like he's not I don't know, but you know, like me, I could be considered menacing. You could be considered menacine. Pete not so menacine. And that's the mistake because white people historically have killed everybody steep listening. I didn't say just because a person

looks menacine necessarily meaning so you could. I've seen guys that look like they're the most meek and humble people on the planet and they don't put in some mad work. I think the white man always looked menacing. Yeah, first, well, Pete is the white man, so he can do a lot of things that we keep. Don't off at the meat market, poison all the meat they want. They're gonna figure out. But that's not the point. Y'll throw me

off my point. God damn still focused. So what I'm saying is my issue is now I'm questioning his true friendship, because that's all gangmanging is, truly, truly built off of your friends, right. I just don't. I'm gonna tell you this. I love you like a brother, bro, but if you send ten people with my ask, we wouldn't be friends, don't. I would hold so like I had to call Pluck. I said, Pluck, would you allowed ten hommies like, Nah,

the fucking mean, why would I take ten hommies? Right, So that's my first issue, right, so now I'm questioning. I'm worried about how you and your community see each other, How Max see the five five, and how the five five s Mac. Well, I could see him not prolling. He's pro get kicked off there set too, and this is this is a concerning thought quoted off. But then even at the end of the video, they're saying he's

still from the hood. Now again, this is me taking c. Mac at his word because it might not have been ten people, it could have been five people. He was just getting spun in the circle. Well, I'm pretty sure after that whooping, he's not telling them more lives, right, So, but he didn't tell lives before that's the point he came out. I wish he didn't say ship personally, I wish he would have, just because I would have looked at in them like, oh, they just don't like him

and making this up. But once he came out and you know, as people say, kept it real feel me it just sound on the crazy, which I understand. At that point they were like his his his his community was pressured to react because now, so you have people explaining to the general public about the member this member of your community, then you have your the member of your community explaining to the general public the community itself has been kept in the dark. So now they're like,

what the funk? So, you know, maybe if they were aware, they would have put pressure, like, yo, you can't be the mascot of sad community if all of these things are on your rap sheet, on your on your you know, on your thug in rap sheet. Like maybe that's the conversation. But whatever it was, it was rooted in the fact that they were embarrassed in shame. Right, so roughly so rightfully so right. So that's the first thing, right, is how many men it took to carry out the discipline.

That don't make me feel like we're homies. It probably was a lot of people that wanted to be involved in the act the pass he discipline. And when I asked Pluck or I asked bull about it, I asked my older homies. You know, book got the bike shop. He said, hell, no, why the funk will we do that? And he was like, and it hit me that I've been knowing these brothers since I was a little kid. So again, our buying and connection is different to why the funk would they want to allow ten people to

assupt metribution? Yeah, you gotta. You gotta remember you are really from your neighborhood. Have you've been over that since you were a little kid? Right, So they have a certain amount of love and admiration for you. Obviously, this guy, he's came from over here, then he was over here. Then he's got fake faith, making fake Facebook posts about from here, you know. So it's like he has some issues and they which brings me to my second point on this cripping, right, which is what I was saying.

When you are foreign to the soil, it's the way they treat you. It's a way you're asked to do things at times that are unreasonable and I don't quite understand. Like I met two young dudes that lived in Antelope Valley, right. I was meeting up with one of my partners from the East Coast, just having a conversation with him, and he was telling me that these two people are from p J Wats, these two young boys out from p

J Watts. And I was like, okay, cool, and I was like, damn man, how long y'all been out here, you know, when y'all moved from the city. They said, now, we never lived in the city. I'm like, you never lived in Watching was like, no, we lived out here

a whole life. And they explain to me how somebody they knew that's from Imperial Court Housing Projects moved out there and they decided they wanted to join said community, right, But so they drove the seventy miles from Antelope Valley to the Imperial Housing the Imperial Course Housing Project and allowed strangers to beat them up to be a part

of the community. And it hit me. I was thinking to myself when I was laying in the bed the night after I met them, how do you go and attack someone else's community if you didn't grow up with like, what's your true motivation to defend this community? Can I say something real quick, ge please? When I first came to California, it was and that's when gang banging was like kind of full throttle. It was a lot different than it was now. You know, people were really gang banging.

You would see a guy walking down the street Long Beach with the whole penaltence to you know, with a whole you know, with the whole blue rag pretty much during around this whole body. So when I got people, you know what I was hanging out with, it may have been hustling with. They started saying, we go thank you from the hood, we go do this and do that. Always started it like that, I'm from a hundred and five and sior superior. I don't have no familiarity with

your neighborhood. I don't have no love for your neighborhood. So how can I really go out of the care of your manner so to speak? You see what I'm saying through Even even then, I understand it, right because now you live It's like if you become a city. It's like if you lived in Mexico your whole life, but then you moved to American you become a citizen of sad community, right, and then they're like, oh man, you live here. You take an advantage of the benefits. Right,

you need to problem. You should be a part of the infantry in the military, like, so you know you can fight for these rights that were You know, we're protecting the territory to the areas, the way of life we have. You know, you have to fight. The thing is like a franchise. To me, it's like if you get a job when you working in and out Burger and Sanbrada, they still send you to the original in

and out corporate headquarters for training. Yeah, but then you still come back and you work at a Burger king in some other place. The problem is there is no We're still not in but you still listen. I'll give you a perfect comparison to that. So in Watts right, there's front Street. Watch my boy, bang loosers from front street. Watch. I know a lot of niggas from front streets. Solid

niggas from front Street. Right, Front Street wash crip. In Pacoima, there's an area called valley fronts right the valley Valley Frustrates crips in Pacoima, in the valley lights right, noble Lanes. I don't know if they're quite the same. I think they are, but that's different. But here's another one. Um. So just like you have the front streets in the valley,

you have the front streets and watch right. So you can come to the city and actually, you know, get trained and you take your ship back to the valley, or you could just be in the valley and be a Front Street and it's a connection. They have the same thing with the ain't that's based out of Inglewood, right or I don't know if they we can say that south Central Watergate crips right in Santa Ana, they

have Watergate crips fear me, and they are connected. The problem with the comparing the franchise to this is in Antelope Valley there is no Imperial you know, there's no Imperial Course housing projects, there is no PJ cript neighborhood to work out at the franchise. So it's like you just went to some burger place and got trained and just it's not like I say, like the guy from pj's moved to this location and now he like took over these blocks and they're just oka. He lives in Antelope.

You can point to an area and he didn't colonize some foreign place. They just liked his get down. It was like, okay, we wanna be friends. Yeah, yeah, that's ship was weird. And again I think those things happen when you are foreign to the soil, like you could have been like he could have been from that area from you know, for five or six years, maybe seven years.

The problem is there is no true vested interest in your existence, right, because my homies no my dad, they knew my mom rest her, so they knew my older brothers, they know my stepmother, they knew my family. They've been me since I was a kid. So it's that even now, Like if if if wasts boy right, who was my love homie, if he comes to me he's like, I need a gun. You know, when we first came to me talking about needing a pistol, I'm thinking, like, Nick,

I know your daddy and your uncle. They raised me. And it's funny because I remember going to his uncle to get a gun, and his uncle told me, who was my big homie pluck, said you better go steal your first gun like I stole mines. So I told my homie, I said, look, nigga, here's a hundred dollars. A gun costs two hundred. You need another hundry and go buy your own fucking gun. Because I'm thinking, literally, I know this nigga's mama, yeah, and that's what this

fucking gun. You're gonna do this fucking guns. Yeah. Now your mom is sad, Now your daddy is sad, Now your uncle sat and don't get me wrong. I had to think like, well, damn, what if he don't have the gun and he needed and he died. Well, you gotta make a choice. So once you sign up for this ship, also got to be willing to be accountable and find your own. Then none of my older homies give me no damn gun until they realized I was using guns. Well, you know, g The thing is this, right,

a game seems to me. I've been in California long enough to where I can't speak on certain stuff. Some stuff I don't speak on because I'm not and even in Ohio, yeah for real. So it's like it's some stuff I don't speak on about the actual infrastructure of gangs because I'm not. That's not my place. I stay

in pocket. Right. The thing is with games always seem to me that was like family, Like you know, me coming out here always touched down the Long Beach first, so I was in a city full of crypts, but I knew bloods too because we had bloods to play in the team I was on, right, So the thing was this all the Long Beach and same guys seemed

like they were family. They seemed like they was familing with a lot of the twenty guys, they wanted the same elementary schools together that my schools, and a lot of times family and in that particular community, damn niggas is all related. Yeah, exactly. So the biggest thing I see with this man is that it's family. And I'm gonna tell you this. I have seen people get disciplined before, but never to the point to where it was like

twenty people. I've seen maybe two maximum three people discipline somebody, and it was always for a real short period of time and afterwards it was a forty in a blunt, fastorund exact and that's what killed me. He's leaving after it in this car and I'm like, he's like, you know, it's still five five, and I'm like, hey, man of ten or eleven of your homies, did you like that? And if over your other homies, let these ten or eleven men, do you like that? How do you still

feel proud? Like that's you're part of the community. Good looking out for tunity into the No Sellers podcast. Please do us a favorite, subscribe, rate, comment, and share. This episode was recorded right here on the West coast of the USA and produced by my homeboy, A King for the Black Effect podcast network, and I heard radio Yeah,