Conversations About Checking In

is has reached Florida. I went to Walmart the other day to try to get some meat and chicken, and they were out of both meat and you had to have like one little thing of ground beef and like a couple of chicken legs. That was it. I was like, fuck, ship, that sounds like you got some ship right there. It looks crazy. No, I just wasn't trying to cook that. I had all ingredients to cook other things, and I was like, what's going on to why there is no

meat in Miami. I'm not sure. I mean, I think it might be the fact that it's like the end of the road for like rail delivery, you know, like if like they don't grow that ship here, so if it's coming in like say like last time I tried, I was making postively. I couldn't find onions. Had to go to three stores to find onions. Not I went to that the oranges and cocaine. Yeah, the seven eleven

I went to have nothing but empty shells. They had like two things of orange juice, like the ship, like the super pulp seven eleven orange juice that nobody wants was the only orange uice they had left. I was shocked. Well, you know what I find, uh is the shortage of baby food. Isn't baby food a fabricatedem Yeah, it's got a lot of weird FDA regulations and stuff. So I

think that was a significant factor in that. Yeah. I was talking with my wife about that, and I said, well, shod and infants that consume baby food can take the bridge as well. So people go ahead to start and see my wife says, some women don't produce milk. You know what. I don't like that, excuse um because it's true, right, some women don't produce milk, Like when abortions happen, some women do get raped, but that's not the majority of

the problem. Well what about this though, Like if it say you're kids like eight months old, right, and you weaned your kid from like breast milk to formula, like at five months hypothetically, I don't know, so like you stopped, Why would you Why would you wean your child from breast milk to formula? I don't know, but like supposed hypothetically that you do, and then your body stops producing milk and then there's no more formula? Can you produce

the milk again? Well, I definitely courtesy of Mrs Steele. I was educated on that because I said some things. I said, women need to stop being lazy and breastfeed their kid. They're too worried about their figure and they nipples getting warped out of shaping all that stuff. I thought that they didn't want to do it just for cosmetic reasons. But I found out that some women just don't produce enough milk. Because let's take all my kids.

Jasmine was breast fed. Stefan he was prest fed, but took the bottle too, because he was so greedy that he would make Maria runs ry on milk. She wouldn't have enough milk for him, so she would have to make him a bottle because he was just that greedy. Chris, he didn't want the milk. He he was weird. He just wanted to He just wanted to do some weird stuff, so we had some weird concoction greevance to him. But Jasmine, she was fully on prest And I'll tell you something

that's interesting too. Both of my boys had um, you know, asthma and surass right when they were younger. Jasmine was breastfast. You didn't have none of those illnesses. Perfect skin and perfect everything. Yeah, go ahead, Pete, I said, I think that it's probably not too much to suggest that when you have a pharmaceutical company that is responsible for making most of the formula, that there might be a little bit of future market incentive with the quote unquote recipe.

And and I'll resent what you said still, like we have to stop coming into a space to where people are being questioned and then the immediate response is a fear or hate, Like if you say something that people don't agree with, right, Like let's say if I say uh as a talent when I listened to Little NASAs records at times their corny, right, I'm not almost folk, Right, that's just ridiculous. That's just an intellectually lazy response to challenge.

Is his movie, you know, music corny, just like prior when I was just saying right now, I'm like, you know, like baby food or like abortion, Like abortion laws are not rooted in rape, right, It's all about convenience. It's not like I'm being pro man or hateful to women or a misogynists as you would call it, or chauvinistic as you would call it. That's ridiculous. It's just lazy.

Literally you would have to combat the ideas and then do the numbers of how many women actually get raped and have a bortion versus how many women just have a bortion. Well, let me clarify at first, that sounds very chauvinistic of you. Sound sound it sounded so listen the clinical definition of listening and hearing, right, Men, Men listen right, you you listed and you end. Women tend

to hear right. That's to acknowledge sound. So that's why when I say something you would respond with it sounds like you're saying, or it sounds like you're no. I gave you a list and end. Just look at the list and end. It's all real. Like, it's not about hating women, are disliking women. I understand that some women do not produce milk. But that is not why formula companies are wealthy. They're wealthy because people are lazy. People don't want to have kids because they don't want the

financial responsibilities. That's the majority reason why people. And I think that's responsible. I think that's being responsible. It's not. Nothing about taking a life is responsible. No, listen, I'm not. I'm talking about people that decide not to have kids for the financial ramifications. I think if you can't afford

to have children, you can't, you shouldn't have them. But I think the responsible thing to do would be to not have sex, not have six And that's and and and that phase right there is what's wrong with with humanity. And like from a women's standpoint on abortion, women want they don't want to cover anything they want to They want to get nutted in by who the funk ever, and then they want to have an abortion. But they want their abortion free and paid for by the taxpayer.

And if they don't have abortion, they want to have the kid, and they want to put the dude on child support. If the dude doesn't have enough money, then gets who steps in the taxpayer again, I'm paying for abortions and fucking child support via my taxes for more bitches. I ain't never fucked and I could ever count. And that's Pete white man about my white tax dollars. But I feel you. I just don't like paying for pussy. I wasn't there. It's just it doesn't ring well with you.

Don't like a pussy. No Sailings, we're gonna get canceled because of the first few minutes, remember it off in the first few minute. I'm sorry, dadies. Pete is telling the truth, but he has to say it better. I couldn't have said it any better. No Sailors. Yeah, my man, Peter Bias, resident producer, excuse me, resident managerial expertise, and the executive podcast company owner Normous Steel for me, my manager,

big stealers in the house as USU. Wow. You know if we didn't get canceled in those first three or four minutes, man, because right off the head, they're gonna be like, first off, glasses is tripping. How dare he actually compare abortions to murdering life. It's something we're doing with our body like it's crazy how they have reduced the conversation of abortions to the equivalent of getting a tattoo.

It's like whatever we do with our bodies. Like I'm saying, don't get a tattooed, but he's telling you this is the same. But I don't want to talk about that because women are already gonna be bad. And I'm sorry, ladies, but y'all gotta keep it real sometimes, and we gotta keep just like me. And I keep it real with me and for me, and that's what this is all about, keeping it real. I was listening to something. Uh it was Oh, his name is a Sian Campbell. Mm hmm.

I'll see some of his content. Um, he's like a YouTuber. Um. He speaks from a really I almost want to feel like he has a really good, soulful place that he speaks from. But at times when I listened to him, it sounds like he's just really been traumatized and been through a lot, and he feels pressure kind of respond to certain ways, or he feels like he's catering to his audience. That's just my opinion. You don't mean, I'm right, Well,

he's been he's been through some trauma. You know. That's doggy dogs that yeah, yeah, and and and it's obvious right. So that's not the point, but it was something he was saying. He was having a conversation with Math and he was saying, he applauded uh pop smoke recipes because solid low, because cool young nigga. He said, he applauded

him for not checking in. And I just thought that that was a weird thing, right, because I I'm starting to realize there's an overall connotation with what people referred to as checking in. Right, So I'm vested, right, this is my expertise, right the street urban lifestyle, like more than Pete, more than Stills. So Pete, I wanted to ask you, what do you think people mean when they say checking in? I don't know the PRESLA context, like, how are you how are you suggesting? Well, I'm saying

if a rapper? If so? Right now, within the conversation right had being had by the culture, people are saying, is it a good or a bad thing to check in? Um, that means if you go to Los Angeles, get in contact with certain Los Angelino's right who have street ties. Oh, I guess you ask covered. I don't quite know why. I don't want to kind of assume what they means. But I'm asking what do you think it means? Um,

how that hands on where you're going? But I think that, yeah, maybe to some extent, there's seems like there's always kind of an industry like suggestion that if you're in somebody's city, it's almost like you, oh it to that person to contribute in some sort of a way to what's happening in the city or what they do as like the leading voice in the city. Still, what do you think, Shit, I don't think no one should have to check in with nobody. Let me ask you this, what do you

think checking in means? I think checking in is alerting people that somewhere you're going to a city that you're traveling to. Like if I was going to New York, if I check in with somebody and say, hey, I mean you guys, say you kind of just to put them on notice that you in the city. But as far as that whole checking in thing that like, you gotta let me know. You know how trick Trick was shutting down people's concerts and all that stuff, that's ridiculous

to me. Well, I think that I think Trick was actually talking about really the promoters. He felt that, um, a lot of the promoters, right, they were booking these out of town acts, right, and um having the Detroit audience come through the community right to to provide and watch these acts. And he was never the promoters were not supporting Detroit artists and allowing them to be a

part of it. Right, doing your community part like, you know, like it were required to lift each urban street community out of this level of poor, of poverty and oppression.

So he started to tell the other rappers, Hey, man, if y'all coming through here, you know, this would be dope of you, you know, if you're gonna get money in Detroit, to allow other rappers from Detroit, right to have an opportunity to share, you know, to share the stage so they can entertain Detroit too, because these promoters ain't booking them. I actually agree with what Trigger was doing. I actually think it was really smart. Um, you know,

to a certain extent, Bro, I get it. I think, um, you should support the community, right instead of just coming to take from a community, you should support it. But the whole premise, I understand what trick Trick was doing, right, but this whole thing where people want to get checked in just on some street stuff. We want people checking in or you're a mon city without checking in with me, it's gonna be problems. That's very that's a very ignorant mind state to me. But but who's ever said that.

You've heard numerous people say that. I've heard a rappers say, Hey, if you don't check in when you come to my city, it's gonna be a problem. I've never heard that in

my life. Isn't that kind of the whole baseline behind like the fact that, like say, for example, there's a lot of recording that is done in hip hop in Los Angeles, Right, It isn't there a relationship between the concept that steals talking about and what you're talking about and the fact that whether it be Sixties or my pirrou or various hoods are working as like security for these acts when they come in from out of town.

The Sixties get a really bad rap on what's going on, and that making a generic game any anyone because we know that there are specifically talk about the sixties, Right, I think they get a really bad rap in this arena, right, um rolland sixty Crip is an international brand. How powerful it is international within the urban community, street communities I don't know, but I know it's out there, but within

America's borders, it's a really powerful brand. A lot of people want to be affiliated with the Rolling sixty crips. I don't think they have to look for anyone. I think most people come looking for them and people because you want to be affiliated with these brands, right, and you want to wear it, and you wanna you know, you want to be a part of it, you know what I mean, just like any other honey. You know it's best if you do community things to try to

help people from the community, right. But I think that's what that's my issue in the concept. Somewhere along the line it became something compatible or comparable to like being exploited. And I said, I was listening to math and I was listening to us and talk about it, and I just thought that was dumb. You mean, not dumb of them, but that's a dumb concept. And it's weird because like you don't check in, people don't make you pay because

you exist. A matter of fact, people only make you pay when you try to use their brand, right, when you try to use their brand right, and and any any time you do what she'll cost you something like this is a brand that people blood sweat, you know, ship blood sweat, tears, died killed over, you know, to

protect the the reputation of the brand. Um. But I think the concept of checking in has gotten so far out of context, rooted in some level of the West Coast being like this forceful thing of like oh you know what, yeah, you you gotta pay them because this it's like, no, people pay people because they want to be affiliated. Most of the time. People not taking money.

Most of the time they're offering jobs. Oh you know what, would you like to be the security while we're doing it, like by that same standard like when puff had used the south Side right now it has such a negative connotation, but that's dope to employ other brothers from different cities and states. For me to hold your common interests while you in this territory. Is if you're a real concrete player out here, you feel me. Other concrete players respect

what you're doing. But like if you think of some of the most no, some of the some of the gangs of the communities that's overly represented in the music industry, like a gang like Mansfield come to mind, right where you got t money d Macmka all these niggas, right, Uh, they don't have to use force. Like it's some kind of confusion that that what we do here especially don't have value. You feel me like it doesn't have value within hip hop and all we do is take from artists.

But let's talk about what the Jungles right there for Walker Flucker. They created his career at this level. They gave him the most outstanding reputation as a gangster rapper that any rapper in Atlantic could ever have because when he came and did a video in the Jungles, all of the blood stood behind him and embraced him like he was somebody from their community. Like the video might have costed twenty thousand, let's say whatever he spin, let's

say contributed thirty five thousand to the community. That song made him a multimillion dollar act. Now he's had success before, and he had some success after, but Hard in the Paint he came such a phenomenon right, and it made him look really, really credible right as an artist because he was able as a Georgia, as an Atlanta artist that's from New York. He was able to come to one of the worst places in Los Angeles and stand with two hundred of the most notorious gang members in

Los Angeles and get support. Like so, I digress. But the thought I was having is when I go to New York, right, I get down and uh, you know Manhattan, I called my niggas because they're my guys around America. Right, It's only a handful of us everywhere we go. So the natural thing is to literally brothership and set me fellowship with other brothers. That's from the coaching. So when I go to New York, I'm gonna hear Trade Pizzy out of the Bronx, I'm gonna hear my man Wink

how the Flatbush Brooklet. I'm gonna hear all my partners feel me because I want to see them. So if you really a concrete player, you know, a real uh some kind of phenomen what you do, if if if your ship is what it is, it's you don't even feel the concept of checking in. It's totally different. It's like letting your people know I'm around, what we're doing, what's happening. I don't get this whole you feel me, this belief that you have to pay somebody to be

in Los Angeles. No you pay somebody to protect you from other niggas from Los Angeles, because other niggas from Los Angeles is looking at opportunities to come up, and you may look like an opportunity to pay some rints for some months. That's why you start to interact with other members of Los Angeles or the concept of checking in. But I don't think most of these dudes just doing that, Like somebody like Chris Brown, right, who will get a reputation. Man,

the people probably ain't whack my nigga. Whack is really important in that from tree Top. Whack ain't need excuse me, Fruittown forgive me. Whack is from Fruittown. Minutes is from fruit Town. Whack and minutes don't need no money from Chris Brown. Whack had a billy before you know Chris Brown. He don't need no money. Chris Brown loves what this thing that we call the culture represents. He loves the

brotherhood of it, he loves that togetherness of it. He loves the lingo in it, he loves the fashion of it. It's a lovable thing. It's what It's what made Snoop the greatest artist. For me to come out of hip hop. Ever, because culturally it is very fascinating to watch us do our thing. But like I said, just listening to them two brothers chop it up, because what's weird, Because it's like,

is that what y'all think of us? You think we need your money, You think we're just this untalented you know, bick You gets a bad reputation for this, and bick You has a ton of great ideas. He brings a ton of value as an elder, somebody who survived the worst parts of the life. Can I speaking to him real quick? Wrong? You? Can I speak on him? I think very I think Big You is a very, very misunderstood individual. He does a number of incredible things for

his community. And when I talk about community, I mean really the community, the kids, especially the children over there. You know, Um, you know you had a youth football program, and that's how I met that you. Actually I didn't meet Big You on the music stuff and nothing else. I met Big You talking mess through Tony Lane through black tongue about football. You know, get better, Tom. Yeah, you talked about a guy that has a program but maybe two hundred, two hundred fifty kids in it and

it's expensive. Front of the youth football program cent in his base does not pay They don't have money to pay league fees or anything like that. But they still play football and all of these and he's genuinely he genuinely he has his communities, he has he has what's best for them, and he's not doing thathing file man. I think he's a misunderstood kid. Like I even heard something, you know, I even just heard something about him, somebody saying what he's dealing with the police. No, he's not

dealing with the police. He has a program to where he gets funding from the police department for the community. But even even entertaining those concepts when you're talking about a guy who was transit, you know, transitioned his life right from prison into doing positive things for the community right a nonprofit. It's all kinds of funding does it doesn't matter. I don't give a fuck whoever funds these programs. He's supposed to use the money for the benefit of

those children. I don't give a funk. If it's the wealthiest a trade nigga in America or the wealthiest nigga from Engle with families in America and they want to donate to the program. This is this is about black is in the ghetto. So I don't even entertain that silly ship. It's just the concept of listening to people like people here are just a bunch of guys who literally have no talent, and we're just taking it. Honestly, I don't think people here crushed down enough on the talent.

I really think Walker fucker pay cheat. Well. You know what, the one thing I respected about Walker flock of Dog is whatever t Rogers recipes, teacher t Rogers, O G. T Rogers whatever, t what ya whatever? That plug on that recipe is Lucky his son too. Yeah, he's a good brother man, and we actually, you know what pissing me off about that man. That's why I don't take stuff for granted. Now, we were supposed to be starting to work on his documentary. We have been talking on

the phone about it. We had talked about it maybe three or four times, and I looked up he was gone, you know, so we can yeah, yeah, we can't story about t Rogers. Right. So men, Lucky, Me and Lucky we met through a mutual honey, but we got close fast. Right, Lucky was this real talented person introduced me to Bennie Boom. Shout out to Benny because really awesome director that he actually shot the video for Hardener pain. Um. Long story short, he hooked me up with his pops, t Rogers. Right.

I heard his name a thousand times. I remember seeing him in the movie Colors. You know this nigga is king blood, you mean, to some degree, you know certain names. You hear you got all these niggas. Is really one of them guys, you know Terry, you know all of those guys. So he wanted to meet me. I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna meet t Rodgers. You know, I'm off the east side that ship. I ain't did nothing to nobody over here. So we decided to meet up at the

Roscoe's in Inglewood. And uh, we meet up. So we had met before, but we meet up to talk business at this ros Coast. Now we're in Inglewood now with t Rogers, right. So I'm really shipped out of luck. I'm in Inglewood with t Rogers, right. So I walk into the rest. Rock T is sitting in there. No, I walked in first. They said us at the table. T comes, okay, this is where we're sitting there. So he's talking to me. I'm with either Mode or Metra

and he says, uh. He said, hey, glasses, never's something. Yeah, man, how are you doing? I said, mol g, I'm chilling, man. How are you? Everything is good? May say? He said, you gotta got a crazy selection the place you wanted to sit that right here? You know, have you thought about it? If we needed to get out of here, where would our exit be? And I said, uh, I said, yeah, the door is over there. I said, I got my pistol. He said, I got my pistol. He showed this pistol.

So that's not the point I'm asking. I'm saying. He said, how will we get out of here? I said, well, this window looks good? Said my man. He thought I was looking for the door. I'm like, yeah, this is all window. We're going out this window right here, and we're just where the cards is that. This is our exits. So how does just remember a lot of great conversations with him. It's such a brilliant guy man, such a brilliant dove man. And and I was talking about Snoop

earlier on my Instagram live. You know how they see us versus how we are you know, from from this culture we call blood and the cryptic t Rodgers probably could have gave better advice on the presidential position for me to Joe Biden. That's how smart a god, how into intelligent and smart and resourceful and wise he was as a person, and like I said, to constantly be reduced down back to that point, like look what we offered Walker Flucker and look what we did for Walker

Flecker's career. Now I'm not again, I'm not taking credit right as a los Angeleleson for Walkercker. I'm just telling you that's the power of the brand that people and rappers want to be affiliated with. I'm not sure. Maybe Lucky calls Walking says why you should come shoot this video on the jungles. I just don't think that that's

how that's happening. I just think it's a little bit more of people understanding the value, right because he's seen a movie training day, so he understands the value of the poke. They've seen boys in the hood. So again it's one of those things where we really get short changed.

And then the concept that really makes sense, because hip hop is all about urban street communities and really checking in it is just those urban street communities linking up right and offering resources and and and and and chilling with each other and you know, building a bond so we could keep helping brothers from our background that don't have representation. Well, one thing, bro, I think Walker really understood, Like you said, I think he understood the importance of

having the streets behind you. You know, just think about how powerful that video was. He's shooting a video, and that those particular projects that you know, he had to have permission to shoot them, and you're getting greeted about t rockets and all that that boots of his career up to exponentially. Yeah, and and I think if you ask him, he understands the value of it, you know what I mean, And he would say so. So I just don't when did checking in become this, Oh somebody's

trying to exploit you, somebody's trying to steal Again. Like I said, I don't think the culture does a great job. I know different neighborhoods that mess with Jez, but Jes don't have versus with people from these neighborhoods. I know, certain people mess with certain rappers. And if you're gonna have rappers hanging out in your community and coming by and claiming the fame. Why would you not have them do things for your younger homeli is to try to

uplift your communities. You know, I think, and I've said this once or twice, I genuinely think the culture is being exploited. Yeah, culture, But I'll tell you I think we are being exploited. Yeah. You know who does the best job, little bro of him in their hood public relationship so to speak. Oh bird Man, Yeah, stunning, he handles himself because if you ever noticed Dog around the country, he's accepted by real street cash. That's what I tell people.

Birdman can go to Chicago, he can go to New York, he can come out here to l A. And he's good out here, genuinely good because he's handling not one thing you said. You don't hear xas versions out here. I remember at one time it was five six different people and watched that versus from bird Man and Wayne, Yeah and Wayne while you while you play, I think I think I've never and being around bird Man for years, when I was around him all the time, I never

got that. I never got the feeling of like, yeah, I'm not trying to touch hands at the community or I feel like some sense of like I shouldn't be here. So it's funny that, like I said that, he was saying that, and all our thoughts in myself was really, y'all nigg is getting over the fact that you could come out here and access right you can, you have access to Our communities are unique living spaces the things that the world has. Literally, you know, Boys and the

Hood did a hundred million, not juice. You know what I'm saying, Like, our culture is a feminam a math. Us feel like it'd be pressure if I went to New York, right and I was like, well, I need to connect with L L. COO J. Because they are the real ancestors and fathers of hip hop. None of us would ever say that that's an honor. I love to get L L on the phone when I go to New York. I'm trying to find you know, I've

talked to cool Her. I'm trying to I gotta chest to eat fish with Eric B. I thought it was a wonderful thing to to go to the origins of where hip hop was created and fellowship right with all of the brothers that's the that's literally the cultural phenoms of it. I thought it was awesome and I don't even take a picture in front of the Marcy projects. It just felt like I was opposed to be there. I never thought for two seconds that it was exploitation

or this, that and the third. Like I wish Cool g rap would have called me when I was in New York glasses, you know, come by the start, have been honored. I don't get you know, this whole narrative, like, well what I think, bro? I think it's the Internet. I think it's the area that we're in now. And they kind of take it because, like you said, if you listen, if you're go on YouTube right now, they're gonna say, oh, somebody got taxed for not checking in right.

It's never like that, bro, Just like you said, it's not how it's perceived to be. People. If you're smart, you're going to go to New York. Of course, I'm gonna call the homies and living I'm touching down. If I go to Louisiana, if I go to New Orleans, I'm gonna check in with fiends and everybody else down there. I just don't understand what it mean like I can't. And don't get me wrong, Gee, I'm not checking the in out of fear of people may think it's because

you're literally going somewhere. Hey, bro, what's going on? I have dinner with some of that while I'm here. We're going to Sweet Chicks? What what what we've got going on? Because when I'm in New Orleans, for me, we're going to morrows with what we what we do, Like I'm figured, that's what I'm saying. He told me people madrade as

us and speaking for us. Right when I say us the street urban culture, there's so many people masquerading right, rapping whatever long masquerading asked us, trying to speak for us and increasing silly narratives that gets spread and this ship that we all know it's not true. Like it

was a conversation I was listening to she Gluchen. They were saying if a police came into his restaurant, right to actually get a beverage with He served to me like, hell yeah, It's like we all know if you've been in the streets, right, if you if you've participated, you feel me, you understand once you're not in the life that these rules don't apply to you. Sometimes you can carry the same ethics, but the rules don't apply to you,

know what I'm saying. So I just thought it was weird that you have so many people speaking up about how we're living right and they're supposed to be representatives, but I don't feel represented. Like I'm listening to him. I just couldn't believe they thought that checking in mitt like like they said pop Smoke got killed for not

checking in. Yeah, that was ridiculous. That was ridiculous. He didn't get Because I'm gonna tell you this, G. First of all, I think people when they say that stuff, I look at them like they're returned because of this. If Peter flew in the l A right now, he could fly in THEO l A tomorrow. G and me and you neither one. We're getting to alert. It's not like nigroes out here, got a phone and somebody come in at the time, rapper alert. Oh, he just flew in right now. He's on flight six to two and

he's coming in. If somebody coming to your city, you're more than likely not even go. No, I agree, you're not gonna know. How how are you gonna know? The city is too big, bro, especially when you go somewhere

like New York. Men, you can go to New York tomorrow, g being a hotel, being a sweet Chicken, it the whole week and nobody know what depends on the city, you know, and the conversation is kind of changing a little bit from the beginning, like talking about like in Detroit, Like if you're going to New York or you're going to l A, you can go in there for something

really small. It's not public, you know, it's like a private industry type of Detroit Detroit and the biggest you can fly in Detroit, and if you don't want to be seen, you're not gonna see nobody. You understand it. But like more often than not, I mean, like from the professionals, like like from from like a hip hop music industry professional task standpoint, you can come l A and record a song or do a photo shoot or

saying with New York. If you go to Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Detroit, whatever, you're probably going there to do like a live performance or something that's more public. I think what happens to most rappers now again, this is like what most abortions. What happens most rappers, right, they're trying to take advantage right of the said community. Right, That's where I was going, reputation that's been built up. Why is it great to take a picture here? Like why do you want to

take a picture here? For me, most of those reasons are gonna come from why the community made it popular, So why would you not want to actually fellowship with the community you want to take advantage of or take

a picture in front of. And that's like kind of the other side of it, Like it's wherever there is it perceived like value deficit, then you're gonna have the same type of conversation Like you might think, okay, well you're getting free location exposure at the in the Jay's or in Marcy's or wherever the hell you are where it's like where it starter was, Like you were talking about rappers in Detroit wanting to be able to, you know,

gaining value. On the other side by participating in somebody else's show, who is a bigger name in there potentially, you know, so it breaks both ways. I think it's just people wanting they're perceived just do Yeah, it would be fair. I just don't see why would that be a big thing to go to another town where you see other brothers that come from that kind of community that you came from, but here and not say to yourself, how can I not? How can I help these brothers?

What small things can I do? Feel me? Because I'm here with them and I see that the same things are going on here that's going on where I'm from, and it needs the smallest ship. Maybe you go to a town and you see a rapper right you're shooting a video right in in the four Trades and the fourth gangs to cripts on leaside, Why would you not reach out to kboy or a rapper in for trade fair? Who's the local rapper over here? You know what, Hey, I'm finish you the video over here. You know I

already pay location people. Look, tell the local rapper that's from this community. Hey, man, send me a song. Let me do a verse for them, you know, when he comes together and figure out you know, hey, it's two guys. Hey, you know what, Let's send me both of those guys verses. Let me do both of those guys verses. You know what I mean? Because they are coming from opress impoverished black communities, just like minds and if nothing else, I can do this to help them. Yeah, and I think

a lot of it. Like really, you can make the case that at the end of the day, there's like equal value in in either outcome. Like take for example, to walk a flock a video. For as much as that was a value add for him at the time, that also on a national scope elevated the perception value

of association with the Jungles, you know afterwards. So if you happened to be a rapper from the Jungles in the subsequent few year period out of that time, which there weren't really any, but if there was one, that there was value that was you know, bilateral. That's not true, there was who benefits, which rop benefited. That's what I'm saying. There wasn't one. If there was, if there was one from the Jungles, Malcolm's from the Jungles. There's a lot

of rappers from the Jungles right now. They got a group that's finally making headway Baby Stone Guerrillas, right and why would not while the Flop called them and reach out to the lab with them? They already started the game traction, they didn't they Hot Sauce been dope for a long time out of that community, never received the benefit, never received nothing because somebody shot a video them project. Excuse me. That housing complex was much more famous before

while the Flop pair came there. Remember it was just on It was just a film that did over a hundred million dollars. That Denzel one is only Oscar for for sure. Like but those are the only two times

that's ever gotten like national visibility. But but again, but within the community, right, And this is what's important though, right, Pete, is within the cultures, the urban street cultures around the world, right around the country, right, they all know about the Jungles if you in the note of culture, right, if you in the note of urban street culture. So yes, in the managed in world when they saw Training Day, they found out what the junkers were the mainstream world.

But us right within the urban street cultures all around have all heard about the Jungles. All have heard about the Jungle. So again, I don't think there's no value. And I think sometimes that's the mistake that homies from the community make, really believing that if these people are around, it brings more value to their community. It's not unless some I they decide to institute value the actual person taking advantage of it, or you have to monetize that

person's presence in the community. Anyway, it's not just gonna get more popular. People gonna like, hey, I want to go there too. It ain't like somebody else came with a hundred you know, let's say, walk a flock of pay fifty thousand. That's the shoots video. Nobody came back and said I have a hundred and fifty thousand to shoot. It ain't like, you know, Katie Parris, like, you know what, I want the same video. I'm gonna give you guys

a hundred and fifty thousand. That's not what's happening, you feel me. What's happening is right those the say artists don't really benefit because you're actually taking something. You're actually taking what makes it special, you know, the newness the first time you've seen it. We had never seen a rapper with you know, in the jungles backed by all of these people, and there's a ton of fantastic rappers that's from around the way. Joe Moses from Brims fifteen

ten minutes away, Hot Sauce from over there. He's really spectacular malcomes from over there. Uncle manages from over There's different people from over there, a lot of bloods from around the area, but they have never had the benefit of being smacked dead on nicke Let with all of the niggers from BPS behind them to say, hey, we

are supporting this entity. Yeah you know what, bro, I feel what you're seeing when you put it that way, like like, let's go back to the walking flogging video with you and Peter both saying in this sence pretty much that none of the rappers over there actually got the benefit from that exposure. When you're thinking about it

like that, you correct. And that's why I think as a community even with this concept of checking in, because checking in makes it like I said, listening to those two specific brothers had them conversation or even when I was talking to Van Lathon on something they're working on for their stuff. It's this negative connotation on checking in where it's like, oh, you know, if you go to l A, you need to LA niggas so you don't

get robbed. No, no, you call l A niggas right to do your security to make sure other l A niggas don't rob you. Who want to rob you for money, right, that's the point of it. Right, you have security, or you have regular security that you fly with, you know. But again, if you're from the urban street community, why

would you not give people an opportunity? You know what I mean unless you can afford you know, the the guys from special forces like Dr j Dr Dre Gotta dude, that's probably about five ft ten five ft none look like you eat your heart No wait man, So if you don't have you know, the best security, right, why would you not employed brothers from different communities? You feel me? Where impoverished people looking to actually you know, pay their rent?

Like why would you not look to employ different people from communities, especially if you want to partake in it? That just makes sense. Like somebody asked me, was t I being exploited? I just laughing. My dog t I is who he is. Nobody has exploring tr TR loves doing cool things for other black folks, feel me? And and again longest said community is providing a value, Like what are we really saying? Like it ain't like a

contrived idea for the most part all the time? Right of like when you rob them and I'll stop you from getting robbed. It's just not It's just a bunch of poor people who have a lot more access to different parts of the city than other places we go. You know, certain things people don't go pull off in Manhattan. I mean, they don't go do that ship in Manhattan. It's different. You know, the community will find this way to Hollywood. They will find this way to Hollywood and

make you a victim. So again, it's not likely to happen, but it has happened. Like you got the clip where Brucey was talking about l A is dangerous because because you don't know anybody out there, you need and you need to deal with the people that are out there, you know, in a in a paraphrase, and the show it was right after the Kodak Black shooting. Somebody asked

me about that. First of all, I think, man, a lot of people that talk about l A on these social media networks and just in media in general have no clue on what they're talking about. And that and that's and that's my point still, That's why I really was getting down to us, like I'm starting to realize. I'm starting to realize that it's a lot of people claiming that their hip hop or part of hip hop, or represent what we represent, right, and they speak for

us or speak on us. Yet it always seems like it's just incorrect, you know, I mean all the time. I'm starting to notice that, and it's starting to really be annoying because it's like, if you on of us, how could you have this wrong? Now I'm starting to think, you know, you just masquerade and that's one of us and it's not real anyway. That's probably true as well.

That comes back to the exploitation. If you're free the good majority of people out here putting two on the TMG, I mean I feel that I feel a two on a tend right. But now again, like I said, when you really analyze it, we provide a lot greater value of people, you know, benefiting from our culture, right then we actually are taking from people. I just don't know what type of black man feel me with that has

this negative connotation. Don't check in like I've heard people argue about it, Nick, I ain't checking in with nobody. Nick's got me funked up, Like, what do you mean You're not checking me? You mean to tell me you don't have partners in this city that you call and you let them know you're around. Do you not want to see your brothers from you know, Flatbush, New York? Do you not want to see your brothers from New Orleans or Miami or Houston? Feel if I went to Houston,

I'm gonna hitting my boys. I mean zero, feel me, I'm gonna hit my guys that I mess with the guys in the street. This is just wherever I go because I literally intend to fellowship with the Brothers. I don't know what the hell happened to us right as a community to where we don't want to fellowship with the Brothers. Bro, I'm gonna tell you what the right now, we're basically living in the Have you ever seen that movie Idiocracy? No, if you get a chance to watch it,

have you seen Indiocracy? Pete m h um A bunch of but the whole premise of the movie, it was a movie that was supposed to supposed to shot in the future right toward the vegetation on the planet that died because they were and um they were using instead of using wiada Um water to Florida vegetation, they were using gatorade. And so this guy came from the past and said, well, they thought he was a genius because

he pretty much fixed every problem they had. Instead of using gatorade, he said, well, this is white vegetation is growing because y'all using gatorade. He started using water. The people were pretty much idiots because they got a dick television program and him's the name idiocracy. But that's the era that we're living in right now. We live in the Arab man that where people believe any damn thing. Somebody said, it's but but social media right is turning

into the home of bad advice and bad advice. It's just spreading rampantly, like like beauty standards are being colonized by one simple idea rooted most likely in a white person. That's just weird, you know what I mean? Like um, checking in fellowshipping with old brothers from from other street urban communities is being frowned upon and somehow you are you know, you are less than if you fellowship with your brothers around the globe. I mean, what type of

person don't want to help other black people? Again? Right, it's like I don't know, Like I don't know what's going on, and it's getting worse and worse I hear a lot of people Like I listened to certain people and again, like we talked about this Pete. They were telling me that hip hop is a bad influence on the community. And I laughed at him, like, no, hip hop is the community. Like you know, somebody said, drill music is a bad influence on the community. No, drill music.

Drilling is what's going on in Chicago in the community, all futures music. Right. The opioid he you know, it's a bad it's it's bad thing on the community. No, the community is addicted to opioids. And he's telling you that. He's representing that with conversation. And and black people are getting to a weird space, you know what I mean.

And and actually they've been here, they've been here like historically. Right, we are so prideful as a people, right, we want to say, whatever problems we got going on, let's leave in the here. We're gonna walk outside, everybody together and act like everything is okay. Right, that's what we're saying right now. We want to say, well, you know what, it ain't that bad, you know, okay, So instead of

trying to cure you know, what's going on right in Chicago. Right, you got a bunch of poor, you know, impoverished and oppressed children, right, trying to figure out life, very little opportunity, very little resources, very little everything. Right, Yet there is a bunch of surplus, you know, professional big farm of

medication that has been flooded through that community. Right, and then that train stops right where there are all these automatic weapons, so guns that usually poor people couldn't afford, or or people who don't have to be responsible, right, or could be intellectually lazy, that they could never afford these guns. You know, to get an a K forty seven is a thousand, two thousand dollars, So a poor,

impoverished you know, motherfucker's don't start. Remember was talking to to the homie about it still, and he was saying, they to see a K forty sevens in l a tonign start selling drugs. You just couldn't afford a K forty seven. Most of the the the violence happening with guns pre you know, crack cocaine was you know, grandpa double barrel shotgun that somebody sawed off the fucking barrel,

or or somebody's uncle long stupid. That's thirty eight. And then crack came and now they're buying you know, oozies, technos a ks, But in Chicago the money didn't come through yet. These are evan twelve fourteen year old kids right having access. They have got their hands on fully automatic weapons and big form of medicine that they are using recreationally to try to escape their circumstances. To me, what they think is in front of them and what

they think is their challenge. And then everybody within our culture wants to talk about why are the rappers rapping about what's going on in Chicago? They shouldn't rap about it. And I'm like, well, why are you more mad at the actual art itself versus being upset at the inspiration for the art? Exactly like, I don't hear as many black people arguing, well, how did these twelve and thirteen

year old kids get fully automatic weapons? When I was thirteen and fourteen, when the seven those first pull guns on us and kill nknok, I had to buy five. It was a hundred and twenty dollars and it was a piece of ship. You feel me? Yet, these niggas is twelve and thirteen and fourteen and they have f and n scars in a K forty sevens and glocks for me with forty round magazines in it. And I'm listening to people who are supposed to represent or come

from where we come from, say this. You're you're rapping about what's going going in Chicago. You know you're it's your funk because you're rapping about it instead of being like, oh, now I know what's going on. Let's figure out what happened in Chicago to make this happen. No, that would be too much like right for them to look at

the art and say, damn, what is that reflecting? We need to go deal with the reflection and some peak could value like it's like makeup like with girls for me, like they they they're not taking care of their health right and not drinking enough water. It's a thousand things they're not doing for their skin to be correct right and getting act mee and guess what they're putting foundation right over the acne right, and they're just patient it on there instead of actually dealing but why the fund

do you have acne? Instead of dealing with the bumps. That's what's being hip hop went from being our news and telling us what's going on in each of our urban street communities around the country right to Oh it's your fault, this is happening. Who the funk blames the newspaper for the news. It's like, I think there's a

I want to say, like the perspective crisis. So this is something you know where if it's within the community itself, nobody wants to like I was saying the other day, after what the hell it even was about, nobody wants to like be already too, you know, not in the legal sense literally, but like class action and blame. You know what I'm saying. So if you are in the community and you can possibly be tied culpable to a flaw,

it's like, well, I'm not gonna go there. It has to be something else, has to be something that I had nothing to do with because I'm perfect and I don't want to accept that I might have made a mistake or you So who who can I blamehiself? That guy he's not me and everyone can and everyone can see him. And it's funny you said that because that conversation, that that narrative I just spoke of, where they're blaming

the newspaper for the news. It's coming from people who this culture, right, who who expressing this culture made them wealthy? I tell you that's part of the problem right there. We can't blame nobody but ourselves. Bro, I'm not fuck y'all. Listen, listen to me, Bro, I'm gonna tell you, um, most of the media that's a hip hop media, right it's owned and operated by white people right under the guys that is black people, that it is black You get what I'm saying. But that don't matter. Why are we

being mad that it's being reported versus what's happening? Like, why are we not getting down to the route right again? Like checking in right? Checking in is a way for brothers within the community that is hip hop, all these urban street communities is a way that we can parlay with each other, break brand with each other, experience these others cultures up close and personal, build a bond with people from around the fucking world that go through the

same ship, that's oppressed by the same person. And some fucking how niggas have allowed that to turn into being exploited. That's crazy. It's it's again, it's another universal human behavior thing. Like I'll draw a parallels so likely. I'm a compare two things, so I'm which one do you want me to say first? The black one or the white one? There's they're similar in in inherent nature. Coming to white white one first. Okay, don't tell me, tell me the

white Can you hear this? Ship steal? Can fuck believe this? I gotta put up with fall the nonsense. Can't even make a goddamn comparison on the half a comparison. So here's half a comparison. You have a lot of talk about absentee parents or absentee fathers correct, and a lot of upper like like upper upper tax bracket white neighborhoods. You have two professional parents that work like ninety hours a week. You have a surgeon and say a lawyer,

they work fucking fifteen hours a day. Tom's five or six, right, and their and their daughter is fourteen years old and has no fucking sense of self. She has a weird eating disorder. Like My high school was on the local fucking news, my ninth grade high school because girls were snort and riddling like cocaine, trying to drop weight. It's for five ft, six hundred and seven pounds to start before they got the riddle and in their fucking sinuses.

So what do they do? Oh, it's Cosmopolitan magazines fault. It's the easiest thing to point profiled. It's not you, and it's you know, you can find a deflection apparatus in a lot of places if you look for one that is crazy. I never knew that. It's just's weird but crazy. That's my point. Like, I'm getting sick of what's supposed to be the culture, right or people supposedly

from the culture talking ship about the culture. And it's like, no, gu mean to tell me you don't think drill music is bad for the community, bitch, Drill music is the community. Rappers didn't make this ship up. They didn't start. Hey, you know what, I'm gonna make up some ship and just start shooting motherfucker's and it's gonna be my whole album.

It's not happening, you feel me. And but I'm gonna create this whole world of twelve and thirteen and fourteen year old people having guns killing each other, and then I'm going to inspire the world to kill each other. The funk are you talking about? Because it's actually happening. You're mad at Chief keith because it's happening, and he's telling you what's happening. The fund's wrong too. Who the fuck gets mad at the newspaper for the Oh, you know,

I can't believe they printed this real story. How dare you? But you know what, Still, I've heard stories right of other black families telling me, like if a kid got touched in the house, instead of them really calling the police, getting the authorities evolved, they just try to sweep it under the room. It happens. It happens all the time. And that's in the black community. G we have a

tendency to internalize everything. You've seen a number of households, and I'm gonna tell you what was really big and stuff. Like the Midwest, maybe even not even the West coast, you would have instance of, um, the teenage girls getting wraith and abused by different family members in the house. The women in the house, the older women know about it, but they don't say nothing because of them that shame. They just figured that it's something and if they did

get addressed, it's always the girl's fault. Well, you knew you should have been wearing those shorts around your aunthor And I'm not gonna get that far because that is just start getting you know the truth though, bro. But what bothers me is we have became the same thing that have that's gave our community of voice. We're mad at what the voice is saying. That's not news though. I mean it's no because I'm not used to it being people that are supposed to be like us from

the community. Well, I mean you mentioned on the live what's your name? It's different with See the Lord's Tucker. See the Lord Tucker is not from this See the Lords tuckers from another time. I get there, the black person from Beverly Hills talking about gang banging. That person ignorant. Let me ask a question, yea, how old is See the Lords Tucker at that time? About forty five? Probably so back then. How old is the speaker now? About

forty five? Probably to say they close from a different time. I mean there's a whole generation and change separating like do or Die from Dirk thirty years of part in age. Yeah, it's real. It's a good point. That's real, good point. And gee, I think that's the biggest thing, Bro. I think it's just the era we in. Bro. It gotta be. I think it's the area we and brother, I think, um,

today people learned as informed as we are. You remember back and before, and you would think it would be the opposite now because people have access to information, endless information, bro, but they do not use it. They would rather they would prefer to rather listen to Bookie on YouTube. He has a better time distributed information job Dog than someone else. That's um, that's actually first on something. We listened to

the wrong information today, Bro, that's share. You're right, how the funk is there more information and motherfucker's it's more ignorant. That's what I'm saying. I wish we had access. That's that's the issue itself. It's it's it's a surface area of all your ratio and motherfucker's is more. I saw motherfucker talking about my song like I can't believe he made this up, this story and it was a rapper and he was like, this doesn't even sound like it

could be true. Tupac. There's no way possible Tupac could have got murdered by another gang member. It had to be the government. And I was like, because it's what the funk is going on to where mother How could you have access to this much fucking information easily in the of your hand and be ignorant? Think about it like this, though, Imagine an old school news stand, right

You've got racks of maybe fifteen different newspapers. Right now, you go to a news standard, there's fifteen hundred different newspapers. It takes all the time in your day just to read which newspapers are there. You don't even have time to pick up the newspaper and read the article. That's kind of what you see now, people are you're so inundated with the headline of the pis sure you see

ten thousands of them. There weren't ten thousand head lines of pictures before it was five and you could read the whole story. And now people fail to look at something go and there's no there's no critical thought happening either. That's the biggest problem. I see ship all the time, and you know what, that's one crap, and I look it up immediately and I go, that's proven crap. Here's the court case right here. I was thinking this. I was like, we spent entirely too much time trying to

teach people intellect versus educating intelligent people. Everybody got obsessed with You know why that is the education system doesn't want to be accountable for shortcomings. So it's easy to teach information than to teach thought processes. Here, who was the first President of United States? George Washington? Not like, how did George Washington become the first President of the United States. You know, one question is a lot easier to regurgitate than the other, So it's a lot easier

to teach at least you know these things. Yeah, but listen, Jeene, Peter just hit it right in the head. Man. We have a bunch of people. People have a tendency to want to believe what they want to believe. You don't always tell you people want to choose. You don't always say you want to win the way you want to win versus just winning. People would rather here a fabricated story dog and the truth, I mean, the lie is

much more. The truth is the ugly truth. Remember when I was joking with you, I told you just lie to me, bro a lot of beautiful dogs. Everything's gonna be okay. That's all you need to hear some time. Shake up girdles, heels, lashes, weeds, beautiful lies, very beautiful lives Bro good looking out for tuning into the No Sellers Podcast. Please do us a favorite, subscribe, ray, comments, Share.

This episode was recorded right here on the West coast of the USA and produced by my homeboy A King, for the Black Effect Podcast Network and I Heart Radio. Yeah