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Conversations About Care

Apr 25, 202342 minSeason 3Ep. 7
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GL joined by No Ceilings resident Peter Bas are back this week discussing the art of caring. Are we living in a time where people only care about something only if it's convenient for them or their agenda? Are their anymore agents of care? Tune in and comment in the socials below.

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Speaker 1

Watch up and welcome back to another episode of No Sealers Podcast with your hosts Now fuck that with your loa glasses Malone.

Speaker 2

Pete Dogg was the deal.

Speaker 3

You know me, no deals.

Speaker 2

Man.

Speaker 1

So I literally am icing my leg right. So the problem ain't necessarily standing up after this. The problem is sitting down and keeping your leg bent. That's the problem, let's see, and it makes.

Speaker 2

It swell up.

Speaker 1

Today I was supposed to go to therapy and I didn't because it was so swollen, like it was just hurting to walk, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2

So I can't when I work through it through that just be horrible. So today I have to ice.

Speaker 1

It probably three times a day, you know, fifteen on, fifteen off, fifteen on fifteen off, elevated three times a day, four hour, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2

Just to get the swelling to go down.

Speaker 3

You're gonna have to do the old thing you used to try to make us do for track, to fill the bathtub of ice and throw some water and they're and sit in that shit.

Speaker 2

It's one leg. Yeah, that's crazy as hell. That is crazy.

Speaker 1

I had some crazy epiphanies and it was based off of a conversation I had with head last week and I wanted to talk to you about it.

Speaker 2

It's been on my mind.

Speaker 1

Is it fair to say convenience is the killer of quality?

Speaker 3

Possibly in some scenarios, Sure.

Speaker 2

In most scenarios, right, Yeah.

Speaker 3

Well, the time it depends on, like on the production side, to get something produced faster, we'll kill quality if you get it delivered faster. M not necessarily mean it kills quality.

Speaker 1

Ah, probably even delivered faster, it's probably gonna kill the quality of it.

Speaker 2

I don't know.

Speaker 3

Sometimes you want things delivered quickly because it shortens the exposure, you know, to the elements and stuff like that.

Speaker 2

Is that possible?

Speaker 1

Yeah, Like, what's the greatest what's the greatest convenient thing that sped everything up that didn't create a loss.

Speaker 3

Of quality anything? Shipping?

Speaker 2

I think we got to do a little bit more research on that.

Speaker 3

Because like it's like the I forget remember which which physics law of thermodynamics is, but the law of inevitable k you know. Yeah, So I mean there's certain stuff you don't want sun exposure to. You don't want various degrees of I mean, like.

Speaker 1

And that's why I said, I don't know if that goes with convenience versus.

Speaker 2

Versus like a requirement.

Speaker 1

I don't know if that makes it more convenient or it's a necessity, true, But but okay, let's say from a basic standpoint, right, convenience is the killer of quality. Right, Let's say food for example, Right, Like the faster food is cooked, it has to lose quality, Like pressure cookers is the ship. But even the best pressure cooked chicken can't fuck with fried chicken done correctly. Right, It's it's always gonna be a little less quality, Is that fair to say?

Speaker 2

Sure? On the high side, if to know how it was equal. Yeah.

Speaker 3

On the flip side, you look at like say the automobile, and like as production quality improves, like you know, decades ago the Rolls Royce there was a lot of hand crafted, ornate interior work done. But if you can cad that at the same high quality, then you're getting it faster and more convenient, higher quality, more interchangeability. You know.

Speaker 1

Yeah, but even that's virtually impossible, like like it could get closed, but it'll never be the same. I don't know for sure. I know that for sure because just in automobiles, it's just not as good. It's it's a it's a it's a certain detail that comes with the human touch that a machine can never duplicate. Sure, now, I'm not saying you can't have something that sustainable. I'm just saying the best version of it is gonna come from human hands.

Speaker 2

If the human knows how.

Speaker 1

Now some motherfucker who ignorant on building cars builds a car, I don't gonna fuck what his hands do, it's gonna be a fuck the car. But I'm saying if the no how is the same.

Speaker 3

Yeah, So a good example that will be the German tank versus the US tank. The German tanks of World War Two as an individual tank or a superior tank, slower to build, all that kind of shit, but when they broke down, they were fucked. The US tanks might break down faster, but they were repaired way faster and produced way faster, but as justin isolated, individual, single item tank at a single time, their tank was a better tank.

Speaker 2

Okay.

Speaker 1

So so the reason I was saying that is I was explaining the head that I thought today's human is the worst version version of human beings ever created. And it sounded crazy because obviously, you know, just even on this soil, on American Sawyer. We had some human beings that have owned slaves. We had some human beings blah blah blah. We had human beings that would hang out

the human beings blah blah blah. Right, But the thing that I could respect about any of those things is it was genuinely people being what they were.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I mean, the character durability has declined severely. I would respect a guy who does things that at the time were perceived as righteous but today are perceived as bad. But they did it under duress and persevered through criticism and just did what they believed was the right thing to do. In the post of today, somebody tries to do with that the hell they think is right, and somebody says I don't want to them.

Speaker 1

They start crying, And that's my point, right, That's that's my point. No sense gl my man, Pete, y'all know how we do this thing right here, there's no selling thing. Man, it's finnah go in the crazzy world when we ain't gonna bore y'all.

Speaker 2

Make it long.

Speaker 1

But trip, this is some shit that was really on my mind. That point is why, right, Because today is the greatest sense of fake care, fake care.

Speaker 2

Right, people act like they care.

Speaker 1

To make other people care about them, right, which is crazy because caring, you know, love in it's extremest form, you know, I mean like that type of affectionate care is probably the most selfless act.

Speaker 2

When it's authentic.

Speaker 1

I mean, it's like if you care about your mother, you do things for your mother, and it has nothing to do with you.

Speaker 2

You know, you.

Speaker 1

Do things for your child, has nothing to do with you, do you will do them at your detriment because care is that thing. Not only is it, you know, one of the it's one of the most essential human you know acts that's necessary, right, but it's also the most essential human desire. I mean, it's like the most basic, simplest human desire.

Speaker 2

Care. You desire care, You want someone to care for you. Right.

Speaker 1

So I've had a thought about that, right was it Attention? Was it? It's attention or connection and those two things. I was talking to Charlottagne and Van about it, and I was telling them care is what fused both of those, you know, in its earliest form, care, you know what I mean, In its earliest form, care, attention is why when somebody paid you attention you thought they cared about you, right, That's why they would pay attention to you.

Speaker 2

They cared about you.

Speaker 1

In its earliest creation, people connected with things they cared about, like the Earth provided for human beings, right, you know when they were hungry, When the first earliest human beings were hungry and they seen the Earth can provide food. You know, the Earth could care for them. That's what created the connection between humans and the earth. Is that fair to say?

Speaker 3

Sure?

Speaker 1

Right, as you understand its relation to you, right, I compared it to MacDonald's. McDonald's in his earliest inception, right, was a place to get food, right, food being a sustenance that provides nutrients and vitamins, things that are necessary to live, right, to get energy and gone the next day.

Speaker 2

Right.

Speaker 1

Fast forward, you know, seventy years later, you know McDonald's being in the forties, fifties, whatever was that. Fast forward seventy years later, seventy to eighty years later, you're at a time where McDonald's is so convenient, and that convenience, because it's so convenience means it's available to the masses, is starting to take a hit in quality to the point to where we're questioning is it actually food now?

Speaker 3

Absolutely? And that to me is a great illustration of some stuff I'd been kind of talking about off air, you know, in that like, for one, the relationship between like in finance, you know, big corporations and government has effectively removed risk out of the industry and the mentality between say a corporate executive and an entrepreneur. An entrepreneur looks at something work how can this work? And a corporate executive looks at something as how can this not work?

And we've now removed innovation from commerce in this country in exchange for just simple cost reduction. We can't innovate at the same price something better, So let's just create making the same thing cheaper and cheaper and cheaper. And that's and that's a quality crisis. And I think even more so than the you know, compromise of caring generation and generation, is there's been a serious compromise in duty and courage, which those are things that you do or

that you display regardless of how you're received. I mean, like I think it was like Aristotle says, the most important quality is courage, because without it, every other quality becomes compromise. If you can't stand up for it.

Speaker 1

Mm, that's a good point. That's crazy, that's on your mind, because it's on my mind. Yeah, incomparable in comparison to care, right, like having that conversation about food and McDonald's, and in comparison to care today, attention and connection are entirely too convenient, right, Absolutely, If you cared about a woman one hundred years ago, if you were interested in her, right, you had to put a genuine effort to pay her attention. You know, you couldn't pick up the phone and call her. You

had to go to her house. Or you had to write a letter. So that means you had to write.

Speaker 3

A letter, ride a horse or give a piece of paper to somebody else that walked.

Speaker 1

Or rode a horse and pay them. Yes, so you had to handwrite a letter. Think about the things you had to go through.

Speaker 2

The hammer.

Speaker 1

You had to dip your fat. You had to dip your pen in ink. Now maybe that's not one hundred years ago, but you get the point. You had to pretty close.

Speaker 3

Became a thing.

Speaker 1

No, not not there for sure, not in nineteen twenty three. So you had to dip you know what I mean. You had to dip your yo yo feather in ink, and you had to put effort into writing this woman a motherfucking letter. You had far a way to get it to her, like that really required work. If you wanted to see this motherfucking lady, you had to literally right get on a fucking horse, or you had to walk miles to her. So when you paid her attention, she can safely say you had to care about her.

It had to be some sense of care to give her attention, so she she wouldn't be wrong to think you cared about her if you paid her attention, because at that time, attention was expensive.

Speaker 2

What you paid when you paid attention, it costs you time.

Speaker 3

At this time, it's interesting, attention is expensive, but we don't pay for it. That's what that's what's so unique about the modern era. Brave the browser, and you know basic attention to coin is token, but what it was minted there's a white paper behind us. So the guy who founded Firefox started Brave and his white papers based on the premium of human attention and how much the

free media, free social media apparatus, free technology pays. Like you pay attention to app a for three hours a day. Let's say, well, you don't get paid for it. But app A sells your attention to one hundred marketing merchants, you know, so your attention is more valuable now than it used to be. You just don't get paid for it, and you don't have to pay for it. It's being outsourced.

Speaker 1

But trip off is it's cheap amongst us. Think about it, a motherfucker for man to.

Speaker 3

Its a slavery. Huh, it's attention slavery. Oh yes, you're giving away attention and other for free, and other people are making money off of your man hours of focus.

Speaker 1

But but but not to go that far.

Speaker 2

Let's that's dope, far before we go that far.

Speaker 1

But before we go that far, because that's that's a whole another thing, extre that's something else we could talk about in the record business too. That I was tripping off for right, But let me let me make that's dope. Let me make my point though, right so right now, to pay that same woman attention, right, it requires it's convenient. It's little to no effort. I can take my fucking phone, look at her d M.

Speaker 3

Yeah, pop an emoji in her in her empoct.

Speaker 2

I got it. Literally takes no effort.

Speaker 3

All right, you're familiar with Gutenberg, the Gutenberg Bible and the original printing press, right, No, so the original printing press worked like you would have these upside down backwards squares of wood with a letter on it, so when you pressed down on a piece of paper, it would show up with the letter and it would be readable.

Speaker 2

Sure.

Speaker 3

So Gutenberg's Bible is a huge Bible giant, but he was able to create blocks for every page of the Bible and press a million pieces of paper down and distribute it in mass. Right, So I wonder if Gutenberg was the original player, because all he had to do was change the name of Jessica to Ashley at the top and said boiler played out the same printing press letter to a hundred bitches and find out which one hit back first.

Speaker 1

Yeah, that actually is not a bastard. That'll be my nigga pun from the community. That would have been his play back then, Oh shit, and it just changed him the letters.

Speaker 2

Yes, funny.

Speaker 1

So the point I'm saying is when you get back to care right and and attention, Now, attention is no longer.

Speaker 2

An agent of care.

Speaker 1

Sure, connection is no longer an agent because of care, They're no longer agents of care. They're no longer agents of care attention. You don't have to care about anything to give it attention. I follow some people on social media, right, and I don't want to just throw them under the bus, because I usually do. But I'm trying not to. I'm trying to. I don't know if it's growing up, but I think I'm wrong. I need to keep it a

buck anyway. But some of these people are so desperate to market themselves right that they overdo it purposely so people can look at them like they're the beacon of things. And I realized this about marketing in twenty and nineteen, you know what I mean. Nip used to be shout out my boy Nip hustle recipes, but he used to be on me, real tough about marketing, and he would talk about me and him and a couple of us and our authenticity being the cornerstone of what we market it.

But the problem with authenticity being a marketable asset is authenticity doesn't have a consistency, right. It has a consistency of you always being you, but other people could never figure out who you are because it doesn't mean like it's easier to be fake and be one way, Like, you know, no real human being is one way. Every human being has, you know, a duality about it, a dynamic.

You know, it's peaks in valleies to every human being, even the shallowest person, that's peaks and valleys to them.

Speaker 3

You almost can't authentically be like genuine and relatable if you're not a top of the bell curve personality. If you're a right or left side of the extreme on a bell curve and you're existing a one percentile environment, how the hell or of the other ninety nine percent going to relate to you? When you're being authentic, you have to manipulate what you are or what you're putting out to the other ninety nine percent. They're not gonna get They're gonna out the hell's up with that guy?

Speaker 1

And that's kind of my issue, right, So that's my issue as an artist. Where it's authentic, it is authentic. So there's no consistency about you know, there's certain things that are hard line, but it's not always the same thing.

Like like even as a gangster, right, Like I'm like, yo, I don't believe in snitching, right, but somebody will confuse snitching who doesn't you know, they're not from the streets, and they'll be like, oh, this old lady told on this man who mugged them, and I'm like, yo, that's not snitching. But in their mind, because they don't have a true definition, you know, they like, oh, well, that's telling the police, and it's like, that's not what's snitching.

Is snitching is two criminals, one trying to absolve blame of himself and get out of trouble, so he's telling on another person's crime.

Speaker 3

People not nine percent of people do not believe in actually absorbing accountability. Yeah, so you're already at the you're already at a disadvantage.

Speaker 1

Exact, which makes me the one percent, Yes, yeah, which is what gangsterism.

Speaker 3

Is all about.

Speaker 2

That one percent. Everybody else feel like, well, whatever I gotta do to get out of it is.

Speaker 3

You really gotta start making t shirts like the patch on the motorcycle games at one percent.

Speaker 2

Oh yeah, you're right. I gotta shout out to the Brothers for that. I gotta get that. Okay, So back to the point.

Speaker 1

Just like McDonald's is convenient, Just like McDonald's is convenient, right, and it's mass distributed it's starting to you're starting to question how much nutrients in vitiments is in it, and it's also starting to be obvious that it is not a full quality version of what we call food. Well, that's the same thing with what social media does for attention.

Speaker 2

Yeah, to a degree.

Speaker 1

Right, It makes it so accessible, it's so accessible for someone to pay you attention that a person paying you attention don't have to care about you. And I'm starting to notice how bad it is to where people are really misleading people to get them. Like the one thing that made care dope, connection and attention, you know, all of that dynamics.

Speaker 2

Of care, Care was dope because it was selfless. We're in a phase where care is starting to be selfish, where.

Speaker 3

Niggas is like yo, extremely transactional, huh, extremely transactional.

Speaker 1

Yes, whereas like super like it's all about social currency, Like I'll become socially wealthy if people think I care.

Speaker 3

Yeah, there's no long gain. Everything is. What the hell is the term for self there's a word for self serving, but one thousand percent right, self serving?

Speaker 2

I cannot And I was thinking about that this whole time.

Speaker 1

And the reason I was thinking about that because I was thinking about that from the same phase which started me on that journey.

Speaker 2

Thought is hip hop right where?

Speaker 1

I remember when Na first came out with the hip Hop Is Dead album and I was like, man, that is crazy. But I'm starting to understand now. I don't think he meant this. But as culture, right, as street urban culture starts to now, as America starts to move, especially California, they're starting to move. You're not gonna be able to be poor in California. That's no longer.

Speaker 2

Well, yeah you are.

Speaker 3

You're you're gonna be really poor in California.

Speaker 1

You're gonna be broke in California. You're not gonna be poor. See it's different. You're not gonna be poor, You're gonna be broke. Yeah, but California will not. You know, it's coming really soon. I want to say ten years street street urban culture. Well it's it's ceasing to evolve now, it's not evolving at all no more. It's like, because you don't have the poverty, you know, the compression, the combination of poverty and oppression and naturalness.

Speaker 2

Of what we do is what created street urban culture. Right. That's that's in the Bronx or Compton, same shit, right, that.

Speaker 1

That creates street urban culture, that creates bad education programs, creates the lingo. Poverty created the fashion, Oppression created the attitude. You know what I'm saying, All these things are created from these circumstances. Without it, you will not you know already right now in twenty twenty three, cuz the culture is not evolving. Like I'm watching different artists come up and they're like, yo, yo, I'm trying to change the culture.

And it's like they just like, well, I'm a dressed like Atlanta niggas or I'm gonna rap on Detroit beats, and they think they're evolving the culture. It's like, no, you're just biting.

Speaker 3

It's devolving rapidly.

Speaker 2

Hands down, I agree, it's like putting really softly. Yeah.

Speaker 1

So I was thinking about hip hop and I was like, damn, man, like hip hop is a culture for sale business. And I was telling a head this. You know, hip hop was the exclusive bridge for America in the world to get into street urban culture, Like this is how you came. There was only so many you know, Colors movies, and Colors movies only gave you this small peak at it. Remember it's a police film on game banging, so it's about the police officers. You didn't get a lot of

rocket or high top. Remember, Boys in the Hood is a movie on black fatherhood and and Furious Styles raising his son Trey, and then Doe Boy and Ricky not having a dad and you seeing a different circumstances. So you only got so much. Dough Boy only got so much, Chris, you only got so much. What's the bust ass nigga that had the HONDEI oh god, fairs fairs punk ass? You can't fight? So he's trying to shoot somebody. You, I mean, you only got so much of them.

Speaker 2

You know.

Speaker 1

New Jack City is a is a police officer movie, you know, about a police trying to change a crackhead's life and get his shit together. And you only got so much. At Nino Brown's perspective. Hip hop gave you dough Boy's perspective, you know what I mean, rockets perspective. Uh, Nino Brown's perspective at it gave hip hop gave it to you full fledge. You got it all right, So

that's what's the exclusive bridge. But now social media, right, you know YouTube for example, you can go on YouTube and look at straight people from you know, people that's straight from the community and they're just talking. You can see their fashion, you can hear their lingo. You know, at one time hip hop artists, right, you had to be a refined person that you you you had to represent the whole community, you know what I mean, Like like Easy E couldn't just be a representer of Kelly Park.

He had to represent that whole area of Compton. And you know, he had to become skilled as a professional. You know, Corrupt couldn't just represent sixties. He had to represent South Central, just like ice Cube. Ice Cube couldn't represent one eleven. He had to represent all of South Central because you know, that's as close as people could get to the culture. And so with that shit, you know what I'm saying, right, you had guys who were skilled,

they were professionals and talents. Now if you on YouTube, it's niggas with no talent that you are absolving culture from.

Speaker 2

And now that they don't have to go to hip hop.

Speaker 1

You know, you used to cost you twenty dollars for the CD because you know what I'm saying, it's cost you twenty dollars or you had to or you had to pay for a concert. Now they've become Google free.

Speaker 3

They've become Google where there's no market of price to determine quality. So that's the theme of the book, like life after Google.

Speaker 2

Yeah, makes sense.

Speaker 1

So what's happening is I realized, like, yo, this no longer is enough. Glasses showing up as a nigga from Watts and you know content, you know the West Coast showing up in Oklahoma City is not enough.

Speaker 2

Like, that's not enough culture.

Speaker 1

They can get that for free without coming to a concert paying fifty dollars. I need to bring comp than in wats three or four dimensions with me. If I'm going to go, it has to come with me, Like I have to bring way more of this upbringing this street urban culture with me. Or I need to bring you to street urban culture, like I can't just bring you here to see me. You have to come, see, smell,

and taste this shit. I'm talking about this experience that that inspired if it's if it's my new album, you know what I mean. I need to bring you here and it has to be a full quality experience. That's how I gotten to the point of thinking where we were at with care now and where today's human is, you know, and most humans want to pay for for They only want to pay for a full quality experience.

They do not want to swap their money no more for the shit that they've been buying for forty years, you know, they was paying for in nineteen ninety three or nineteen eighty seven. That is no longer enough. Because culture street urban culture is convenient as well.

Speaker 3

And yeah, and I think that there's another element to it, at least from my observation, you saw a pivot in hip hop from people who became successful talking about the struggle in the lack of success so to speak, versus people who became successful talented as they were talking about

basically like braggadocious success stories. So then you get people like like the first high school I went to, rich kids with too much money, so they were able to relate to cash money record because they would go out and customize their cars and look just like cash money

music videos, you know. So it went from talking about this is what's happened in the community, talking about why I'm so goddamn special because I made a bunch of money and bounced, And that became the theme of the genre for a lot of years, and people as we saw like it. And I won't name names, but we've been seeing a guy elected president on hope. People like hope, people like dreams, They like aspirations, even if they have no intent on actually doing what it takes to fulfill them.

So if you can talk about looking on my designer shit and I did all this and no, no, no, d I mean how many times people you see reposts some success story by some guy they admire that they have no intention of doing any of that shit, but they're really inspired by it for thirty five seconds versus somebody talking about how hard it was. No one wants to hear about how hard it is.

Speaker 2

They just want to hear how good it is.

Speaker 3

They just want the results. They want the paycheck without the forty hours.

Speaker 1

Well, the thing that makes cash money records special. And I've been telling a lot.

Speaker 2

I'll be kicking on them, huh.

Speaker 3

I was just saying.

Speaker 2

No, no, no, no, no, no, I get it. No.

Speaker 1

But let me say this because I have been talking about this to a lot of younger artists, because when I tell them, a lot of younger artists are like, oh gee, but what about money? You know, I'm telling them like if I'm looking at a Blast video and I'm like, hey, you know y'all got a Ferrari or if Roddy got a Ferrari or Lamborghini, I'm like, Yo, don't get caught up in that. Like I get it that that looks like that's the thing, right, But the

catch is what made Cash Money different? Right, And somebody has been a fan of their rides, you know that's from the West. I've been messing with them since ninety six ninety seven as far as a fan the Big Timers first album. Right, The difference with Cash Money is they look like Project Niggas in Lamborghinis. And I don't mean their face. I don't mean they were black whities. Yeah, I mean they were wearing white T shirts, Jabbo's and rebuy classics with bandanas, doing donuts in Lamborghinis.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 1

So it's different like like in Wat's especially at that time, I was selling drugs and hanging out every day with homies and getting them shot out, shootouts, getting shot at, shooting people, going to jail. But you looked at Project Niggas having money that is dope, right, Yeah, But today what you see in hip hop is a bunch of douches wearing designer clothes in Ferraris, and I'm like, you just look like a douche in a fucking Ferrari And that's not.

Speaker 3

They looked like they looked like the kids that like I said that my first high school.

Speaker 1

You got a bunch of design like what you look like white people trying to act black.

Speaker 3

It's like, here's a good little stupid story, and it's and it's interesting for maybe listeners who aren't in the state of Florida. But we had a huge flood a couple of weeks ago, if you might have seen it, it shut down all the gas pumping terminals at the port, so the Metropolitan ran out of gas, so you would

I was low on gas. I had to go to like nine or ten gas stations before I could find a station that was actually selling gas and didn't have a line backed up one hundred yards down the street. So I get there and some dude wants to cut off all cars. He's, you know, mid twenties, is buff, he's tatted up, whatever the help, but he gets out He's got a designer hat, designer shoes, jeans, all that shit, and he carries a little handbag Gucci satchel, which obviously

you're running around threatening people that hard. You got a gun in the satchel, Like, let's not kid around, sure, but it's a different type of look when you pull up in your lexus and jump out and start threatening people by gesturing to your Gucci satchel.

Speaker 2

Satchel.

Speaker 3

What was that movie on the Hangover?

Speaker 1

It's a puss, it's a press, it is a purse. And yeah, that is true, and that's the separation. So again it goes back into the same conversation of quality, you know what I mean, where things are so convenient that they're losing quality and you can't sell things that are low quality unless you're McDonald's. Like right now, if you opened up a burger stand that sold burgers that was like McDonald's, you get laughed at.

Speaker 2

McDonald's.

Speaker 1

Is the only person in the world that could get away with them smashed bun cheeseburgers. I remember I went to McDonald's probably two months ago. I was with Jordan. She had got off work. I picked Jordan up. She was like, she wants to McDonald So I go to McDonald's and I say, she ordered her food.

Speaker 2

She gets some kind of nasty has spicy chicken sandwich and I order a cheese.

Speaker 1

I said, can I get two cheeseburgers without the buns smashed? And they was like, huh. I'm like, don't punch down on my fucking burgers. I want my buns to be like buns.

Speaker 3

So you were yelling out the window of your car, don't smashed down on my buns, okay, just to be.

Speaker 2

Clear, right.

Speaker 1

So I'm like, I'm telling them this and you should have heard them, like they laugh, And I'm like, I know, oh, y'all up in this motherfucker punching down on the buns. Because every time I get a fucking cheeseburger, the buns look like they've been smashed down.

Speaker 3

They're like Peter bread.

Speaker 1

Imagine a new burger place sold that shit now, it could not happen.

Speaker 3

And additionally, you couldn't be a new burger place and get burgers off at three dollars a piece and make rest that's a good point if you're selling burgers at ten times. I go to the burger places I go to, they're not even great, they're good, they're ten eleven dollars.

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah, that's true, it's miserable.

Speaker 1

That's a good point, But that was my thought. It was like, we're at a place where attention is so convenient, it's so mass up. It's just abundantly available mass any girl, to the point where, like I heard people be like, Oh, they're showing me love on social media. I'm like, no, they're not. They're showing you attention. And that's a tough place because, like I said, traditionally, attention was associated with love and care. This is twenty twenty three, Like motherfucking

MacDonald's Cuz that's not food. Them likes on social media is not care, it's attention. I know, attention used to.

Speaker 2

A care.

Speaker 1

You know, care was attention was an agent of care. Well, MacDonald's used to be an agent of food. That shit is not happening no more.

Speaker 2

It's done.

Speaker 3

And I think part of that also is what's become convenient is attention. You can show somebody attention on social media while you're on your way to work or while you're at work. You used to have to dedicate time to attention, you know, Yeah, to give somebody an hour of attention might have taken you three actual hours an hour There an hour of attention and an hour back,

and you couldn't do shit else. Now, yeah, you can do three other things and can give somebody attention on the side while you're waiting someone to hand to your punchdown buns.

Speaker 2

That's just what it is. That's a good boy. Well, okay, okay.

Speaker 3

You can like her buns while you don't like the ones you just bought.

Speaker 2

That is true, And she'd think it's love.

Speaker 3

Exactly, And so I was giving her one hundred dollars to validate that.

Speaker 1

So at that point, am I wrong for thinking that this version of human being is the worst version at all? Because this is the most this is the fakest version of people.

Speaker 3

It is the least dutiful, the least long viewed, the least character driven, the least everything. I mean, you could buy off some with a cheap Chinese made piece of plastic and thirty five fucking seconds.

Speaker 2

That's just the truth.

Speaker 3

I mean, we we even on a macro sense, we completely gutted like our manufacturing industry so that we could outsource everything while we barred and barred and barred against the dollar to try to push down on inflation on the supply side. By sending all of our supply sourcing overseas at the expense of the people who live here. I mean, it's just from the micro to the macros. It's all the same psychology. It just depends on the scope, you know, to which it's applied.

Speaker 2

How long? How much longer can we go on like this?

Speaker 3

About six weeks?

Speaker 2

So we got left six we got very little left?

Speaker 3

Yeah, very little left?

Speaker 2

Can say we got six weeks? How about six weeks? Shits go to implode, it's over. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 1

Look at commercials every day, but like, yeah, this is how we gonna stop gun violence.

Speaker 2

I'm like, what the fuck are you doing? The fact that.

Speaker 1

They made gun violence a thing, not violence, just gun violence or human beings on human beings. It's like, I promise you I genuinely believe all that they know, and they know people are stupid. So I've always said this politician's job are to the greatest politicians. Okay, so not the greatest, but the most liked politician, or I should say the best, because greatest and best. I think greatest

is quantifiable with impact. I think best is favorable. You know, what you like or how many people like them, doesn't matter, the impact is just like I think the best presidents cater to human beings emotions totally.

Speaker 3

I mean, at this point, that's all that it's been for. I would say since the mid nineteen seventies.

Speaker 2

I would say president is responsible for this.

Speaker 3

I would say Carter and then Reagan came in and catered to a kickback in the opposite direction of a different emotional breakdown in a different population. And you have a sliver that shifted over. Oh, we felt good and warm and fuzzy about Carter's idiotic ideas, but made us feel like this is hopeful and we feel optimistic. Then it all failed. And then he came in and said, no, we need to do this and everything's going to be great and America's gonna be great again, Okay, and then

go over there. And then Clinton comes in and sells bullshit and bullshit, and then Bush the second comes in and sells, you know, patriotism and other horseshit after the Clinton vision kind of expired on its own weight. And then Obama sells hope and dreams, and then Trump sells be patriotic again. Fuck the hope and dreams that it's not Yeah, you sell one group sells the app distract and the optimistic.

Speaker 1

The other group sells the reality and the immediate and the reality and historical.

Speaker 3

Yes, yeah, yeah, but one sells buoyance and one sells gravity.

Speaker 2

I want to say that one more time.

Speaker 3

One sells buoyance and one sells gravity.

Speaker 1

Oh my god, that's fucking great. Cuz, oh man, what are we gonna do? What are we gonna do with these last six weeks?

Speaker 2

You know what?

Speaker 1

Every conversation, Hold up, six weeks. We got six weeks left. Let me get that date, June fourth, So that makes uh, well, the so so that's June fifth, fifth, Okay, June fifth, one, two, three, four five yep, June yeah.

Speaker 2

So the end of the world is Juville. Yeah yeah.

Speaker 3

June tenth isn't going to be about an opaque delayed, the freeing of slaves and the word. It's gonna be about a opaq collapse of humanity. You were a few weeks late hearing about how it all ended.

Speaker 2

Oh fuck.

Speaker 1

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Speaker 2

Yeah.

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