Conversations About Bronsexuals

Like I don't make jokes about because hairline. I don't make jokes about how corny at times he could be. I don't get into his social stands and none of that. I only talk about his play on the court. And the first thing the motherfucker want to say is I hate him or you just don't like him? Like, how is it? What did he do with his media marketing machine that convinced people that if you say something that doesn't seem complementary about another human being, it goes into

a space of dislike like how I got one? To go ahead, Pete? He uses the same marketing people as a trans movement. No, I was not expecting that's good. I was not expecting that direction. It's the same group from Century Park East that handles all their marketing, advertisement, commercial, etcetera. He just hired the same group, the same thing, same team. This is like, this is like, this is actually this this is facts. I would facts. Yeah, it makes the

most They're all the same. I just think that once you associate yourself and and and I'm just about to sound mad political, but I just think that Lebron did. The politics of Lebron are the reason why like people feel the way they feel about him, like he's he's he's actually like a political figure, the same reason why people get mad at Kareem every time Kareem say something.

Glasses you you had a whole thing about Kareem saying something, so like, I think it's just he's just in the same you know, in the same sphere, especially with him being you know, liberal, like you get guys like Kobe Covington, who's in the m m A. He's like a big m m A star, right and like his his his politics are big because he supports MAGA. But like that doesn't usually surround the conversation around him because he out

there like winning all the time. Lebron don't win all the time, so we have to focus on the marketing aspects of Lebron because he don't win no more like, and even when he did win, everybody's still disrespect and called the fluke. I don't even think it's about organization nothing. I think liberals in general love to do that, like they love to build people up, and if you say

anything bad about him, then you're wrong. Like I just genuinely think it's just like a product of him associated himself with all these liberals over the past couple of years. And I'm not even a conservative. I'm just saying I genuinely to feel that way. I don't even think it's that deep. I think he just raised people like he's

so much. He's he's he was he was the first new I guess sports superstar as far as like you saw his raps from high school and like he's actually at this point literally like he's been famous for twenty years, so you have human but he's I was twelve and Bron got drafted. When I first knew about Lebron, I was like probably the first time I saw Lebron and new Lebron was I was ten, I'm thirty now, Like he's literally just raised people needs such a part of

people's labs. I don't think it's but Magic Johnson raised me and I'm not that fucking lane. But the media but but, but but there wasn't the same level of media circus that there is now, like Magic Johnson, now, are you tripping? Magic Johnson was one of the biggest athletes ever, especially after he after he announced that he had HIV, that he was HIV positive, people waiting on him to pass, Like we're not gonna act like people didn't care about Magic Johnson. Bro, that's not, that's that's not,

that's not that's that's that's that's not. That's it said it. Also, Magic was at the dawn of the twenty four hour music cycle. There wasn't no, it wasn't social media was the first twenty four hour sports media entitc worldwide. Yes, but it's different like seventies, like I think it was like seven. I mean yeah, but when Magic Johnson and got like when he came and when he had positive he was HIV positive, like the President spoke about him

being HIV positive, like Magic was a star. Magic, But Magic doesn't engage politically the same way that Lebron do. I don't even think it's about you. I'm sorry Lebron being around since she was a kid. We don't look at Mellow like that. We don't look at d way like that people do. People will die with Karmeno Anthony. I don't know human being who I know? I know Anthony. I know some people from New York who swear by Mellow swear By. They swear by all New York basketball players,

including Stefan Marbury. He's a girl, don't swear by. I don't believe that. Bro. Listen like if I'm having a conversation right and they'll be like, why don't you like Lebron? And it's like, I don't have a le problem. Well, he's such a good you know, he's such a good husband. You know, he doesn't cheat on his wife, Like you don't know that. It's Secondly, like I don't care. I never grew up in an era where I idolized me because they were faithful. All my favorite motherfucking players had

a lot of bitches. So again, like you're looking up at somebody doing the status, I'm not mad at you for that. Like I don't dislike Lebron because of his narratal situation. I don't I know what it is, glasses, I know what it is. I remember when this was going on, when he was going to be drafted and

Carmelo was pre draft. You know, Lebron is the predominant number one choice and people and then you have the more basketball purist and the alternative thinkers and the I don't know, I'm gonna hedge common perspective and I'm gonna be the guy who's right. I'm gonna be the Carmelo guy because he's a better shooter, because I want to be alternative to the norm. So I think people have always polarized and because he is a different type of

basketball player. He's the best basketball player in the history of the sport with no skills like he. Nobody has ever been this good by brute force, you know. So people who yeah, but he's a post guy. A lot of posts guys like like it. It's hard to I mean they do, but like he for a perimeter guy, no one has been this good without being a pure

basketball player really before. So if you're a generation intergenerational basketball fan, you look at Lebron and you can see all these holes in his game because they were there, but he still fucking dominates the basketball game. I'm not mad at I just think that he's not. I'm not mad, but I don't still that's all. He's polarized people. Why why would he be polarizing? He's like as a human being, bro,

there's no excitement to Lebron the president of bum. I mean, not even that he called himself when he was sixteen years old. But polarized. Okay, Dennis Robman is a polarizing player. Charles Barklay was a polarizing player before you're telling me Lebron. Lebron James is like mayonnaise. He's bland, he has zero I think he does things that that he's the vanilla version of Magic Johnson. He's he's very dramatic. He's a very dramatic, Like he don't have a flair for anything

off the court. Off the court, he's he is at cares what tattoo and nigga has I'm just saying that just Michael Jordan had that tattoo. That's say. That's my point, Like, what space are we in into with these things? Now? Are like, oh, he's edgy. He's polarized. Lebron James is polarizing. Okay, like it or not, he actually is polarizing. I don't know if the human being he's not. You just don't know all his dirt. That don't mean he not polarizing.

What do you? What do you what's the polarity about Lebron? Were you like, well, it's two ends on the spectrum about Lebron James life. What you mean? At one end he'll speak about like how like like you know, he's offer this empowerment, empowerment, empowerment, empowerment. But when it came down to all that Black Lives Matter ship last I mean last year, he was the main one being like,

now we're gonna go play and make this money. We're not gonna mess up this, this collective bargain in agreement. So yes, he is polarizing because he's gonna be the same one that's gonna be out there no stop, South stop. Because last year, during all this Black Lives Matter stuff, when I was actually out there protesting getting shot about rubber bullets by the police, these NBA players was in a bubble in up here argon in debating if they

want to play. All of these motherfucker's spent all of this time waxing poetically about raising all his other ship, and at the end of the day, they all chose that motherfucking check. And I'm fine with it if you want to choose the check. But don't sit up here and fucking try to sell me on social justice as if like you something fucking crusader, when you're not a crusader, You just an entertainer. And I've been entertaining for a

long time. You don't think you're giving them too much credit for a fucking tweak, Like they're like what Lebron talks who on the mic and says it you know what you mean? He gives an answer at minimally talked so little, like he could just talk about him, as if he's a harsh shader, like like uh, like cap or like Bill Russell, like he don't talk every time he finds the high and this is what KEI think

that was the whole time. Just listen, Lebron James finds the high points of all the conversations and then he takes the safest road travel on each point, like but is it that easy to fool your generation? Calling the president of bumb is safe. Donald Trump, everybody Donald Trump out his name. He didn't for something he didn't like, No, he didn't, because that would be a solo stands. He would stand on his own. Every last thing he does is so easy, like he's just highlights and like and

you're like that's polarizing, Like that's not polarizing. Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait everybody as a fan of James, but no, no, listen. Oh the reason why I see Google polarizing all the polarized persons to do it's been a pains is make people love you, I hate you. You have people who love Lebron James and hate Lebron James. That makes But I'm trying to feel some type of way about Lebron for whatever reason. What I'm trying to

figure out is where is the polarity coming from? Like he's pretty straight up and down as a human being, But it was like nothing about Lebron James, Like I get it when Snoop first came out. Why people were polarized by Snoop. This nigga is a crip. He he is living this cultured, super urban lifestyle, that super niche to this small place, and he's proud of it. I could get why Dennis rob and he's wearing a dress marrying himself. Like, right, all the people historically that have

been polarizing, it makes sense. Why is this motherfucker literally conversation about marketing? Last time we podcast glasses Literally. There is a video of a pregame that Lebron played in high school where the man was seventeen years old. They were comparing him to the right A minds out of the Wood Chamberlain Michael Jordan's Magic John says he's the next one. The man is seventeen years old. You're gonna have an opinion about that if you're in that moment.

I don't. Again, that doesn't create polarity. It kind of does them because it makes it doesn't because it's a comp right, it's a comparable, Like Lebron is straight up and down, Like it's like Jay Cole is straight up and down. People hate Jakole and people love can say Jacole is not polarizing, He's deep. Yeah, he is. People of the first. He was one of the first artists of the New generation to openly dis Karya West. That's definitely polarizing. Was people savior. He was the first one

to be like yo yo ask Tweeter. Yeah, it's not polarizing, Ye, polarizing is probably is one of the greatest marketing human probably the most polarizing human beings. And they're both master marketers. But but you're missing the point because people like you said Kanye West is not polarizing, but Ja Cole Jacole is like watching paint dry. See I don't see. I disagree with that. I disagree with I know you do, because I'm telling you your generation doesn't exact. That's a

that's a key word, my generation. You're not in the generation get to so you so, so you don't have generations. The other pole is another exactly, and you don't have your and you might Jacole fans so you know, might not have your thumb on the post. But when he finished today, that's not my point. I don't care about his rap skills. You talk about polarizing him as a human being is polarized. He literally made a song of uh.

He's basically like having a verbal sparring match with this black woman who, like black Twitter loves for all of her thoughts about how like progressive blacks can do all the and stuff and basically being like yo, like you calling me out and you're not educating me at all. That that's polarizing with it itself. Murder, that's that's niggas

murdering niggas every day. And what are you talking about the most successible in the country, who you said was even polarizing to the jury, just we need some hits. Nuke went to jail. He sold a million records, eight hundred and some thousand in the first week and eight hundred and some thousands of second week, and went to

jail for murder right after that. Like, that's polarizing, right, And if you look at if you look at the context of who he was and who he is and where are you from and where you've lived your whole life, it's not that far out of the realm of of what could happen under the normal context. It never happened that, yeah, that that yeah, yeah, no, yeah no. What I'm saying, Ja Cole creates Jole. J Cole is super polarizing because

he argued with a liberal woman about black rights. Yes, because he spends and and I've said this before, he spends a lot of his time the same way a Lebron James does speaking all of this black power, black movement, I'm with y'all, I'm doing all this other kind of stuff. And then when he gets criticized or he doesn't like people's opinions about him, there are moments where you can kind of not He might not necessarily lash out, but it's like, why did you do that? That was uncalled for.

You could have just left it alone. If you really felt that way about it, you could have just messaged her. Otherwise, you're the third biggest rapper this and a girl whose literal name is no name. Yes it was. It's like, why did you make it? That made it? Why did you put it out? So let me ask you a question.

Driving that is right today? Yes it is you in the middle of a heated political climate with George Floyd just got murdered in front of people and they recorded it for eight minutes and forty seven seconds, and she over here advocated for one thing, and you always talking

about black power and all this other stuff. And then when it gets down to it, you just a black female because you say that the way that she talks to you isn't the way you want to be talked to what they tell a teacher how to teach you, and you just want to be talked. So Tupot goes to jailf rape and is in prison. Okay, you're talking about crimes and you're talking about polarity. Them two different things, and I'm talking I'm talking about I'm talking about things

that make of most crimes in America. Let me go to be a conversation. Let me let me, let me, let me, let me find it completely different things. I'm telling you. That's the point I'm making where you're in a space where this ship is lane be dying, Like, come on, gee, can I submit the idea that maybe we're conflating the terms polarizing and controversial, which aren't really the same. I'm saying people love and hate like opposite in positiveness. It's a charge about the like they're calling

Jacole polarizing. It's like calling Tim Duncan polarizing. No, Tim has not done ship that was really actually really didn't like him growing up, just putting it up. You can really love or hate Tim Duncan. It's impossible for you

to really love or really hate Tim Duncan. But because really love or really hate you like Jole, Like even when Jacole did this ship, when he was like talking about Little Pump at all, like you're like, oh, young kids, like Jacole does things when you can get dislike Jacole. I'm just saying, Jacob were talking about Little Dump, not everybody,

and everybody in rap was a fucking hypocrite. And I was saying that at that point in time because Nick has been rapping about doing lean, popping Molley's and fucking bitches forever, and then all of a sudden, he come on, You ain't gonna Little Pump stop. He come on the scene, and everybody wants to be like, yo, what is he doing here? Disgrace? People have been doing this ship for years, bro. I remember listening to Blue Dream and Land when I

was twenty somethings. The point you're missing the point of what I'm saying and what I've been saying about. Even those two particular people, they get the easiest highlighting targets, right, like ship that ship. Even who the funk cares if you bully Little Pump. I feel I'm gonna tell you this is a weird era, right, This complete era has been a weird error, bro. That's how I know it's been a weird era. It's the manufacturer of consent era.

It is because like you look at look at these guys, You're you're talking about polarity within a very narrow spectrum of the polar spectrum. It's like, you know, a hundred degrees east, hundred degrees west, and zero. The polarity exists because of an attempt to try to manufacture a dialogue

between five and ninety on one side. You know, it's so, I got a question, then, who's so, who's the most polarizing person or who are some of the most polarizing people right now that are currently in the American lexicon that you are and well and will say Kanye obviously, But I think, but I think that's more about marketing than anything. It's not. It's just when he wants to exactly everything is marketing. That don't mean the marketing is

just storytelling. It don't make it not true or re effects. It's not like marketing is some kind of lie. Marketing can be a lie. Like you could be rose right and you're like, I know noriego or this that in the third and you could say some stuff that's made up and use that as a marketing employe, and then you could just actually talk about what's going on you in your real life with your wife, and that's polarizing. He's just talking about what's really happening, Like, this is

what's really going on in his life. It's not like he's making it up. And they're like him and Kim is together and their line that's not what it's not. You know, forgive me for saying, is this ain't the Yellow album with Jay and Beyonce where they you know, pretty much manufacturer ship. This is like the real deal, Kim k real, Like this is like Pete is really fucking this nike A wife, bro, Like this is not a joke. Yeah, little little white Pete shout out to

people like Pete is really fucking his wife. I feel like the other people go, even though I've heard him say he wouldn't go, he definitely go. I'm just saying, I'm saying Kanye is not like this is really like his real life has always been like like like even Kanye right, this is weird, right, and and it's this error, bro, Like I remember listening to college dropout right college dropout. The depth of his struggle was his boss accusing him

of stealing pants from his job in space. He did make spacehps Like yo, he said the vintage he wanted to escape because his boss racially profiled him and accused him of selling slacks. That's not polarizing at all. It's not polarizing. That's not polarizing. And yo, everybody know it's not everybody somebody it is. Though, if Lebron James came out and said that the entire society was diametrically opposed to him whatever because he was profiled for stealing slacks,

would be the news story of the way, exactly. Facts like that's the depth of this row, which since two thousand and three and four, like we have went into the lamest era ever. I don't even know how I existed, is um, I don't even know why you're mad it's so safe, Like you upset that it's safe outside. Be like, why it is not safe outside? You're from Chicago and you just said that exactly, So what are you talking about?

So therefore problems still really succumbed to these people's marketing. No, because I'm not having a conversation about Lebron right now, means that he's polar No, this is a conversation about how lame this error is and what episode what's his name of this episode? Conversations about the le Bron sexual area exactly, it's about Lebron. So no, no, it's not about Lebron. Listen, Lebron sexuals is not about Lebron, like Lebron, I could never formulate an opinion on Lebron James, Like

I'm neither hot or cold on Lebron James. Why would I be hot and cold on Lebron James? Like, why would I be mad? Why would I be happy? Lebron James is really one of the first best all players who I just watch on the court and can have an honest opinion. And Niggas is furious, Like every other basketball player that I've watched at the highest level had some kind of flavor, like Iverson had flavor, so there was a reason to be mad at him. The way

he works, Harry carried himself. Lebron James is like as a person, he's just literally the highlights of whatever is safe to say, you know, whatever is cool to say, and that's it, Like it's it's this this narrow spectrum, like the like Peter's right, like polarity should be here right when I was a kid, because polarity was here, Pollarity now is here, like y'all just like, oh he's j Cole is edgy. You see how you got at that blogger? Like what the fuck? Like you're telling me

with the black blogger about respect? Yeah, at a time when at a time, when you out here marching and doing all of this black and power and stuff, it looks very contradicted. They largely agree, though largely what did the song actually say? Like, what did he say wrong about her in his own Why did he make the song? I can't have a conversation with this lady. I'm a rapper. No, No, you could have a conversation with her. I can have a music you can have you can you can have

her musical conversation rappers, they both rappers? What the fun? It ain't called the song to give her the opportunity to respond. Don't just put out a song about HER's not you, and she ain't not gonna have the same leverage when she wills her response back to you in the same manner that you would because you were a top three rapper that exists, Like nah, to build her

career up. He was picking on her when he could have easily hold on No sailings Glasses Malone, my man, Peter boss I got my brothers from the who some Brew podcast. One of the biggest reasons I decided to be a podcaster t p J. Having Filly was heading. But so this is my problem, right, So this just to pick back right back up. You're saying that's polarizing because j Cole argue with the blogger who's a Twitter blogger about his position and in respect, Dr dre slacked

the Barnes in the face. But did we see it on Carera We all knew it and seen it, like like we're way past that, Like that's where you are and this is my points. Unfortunately, that wasn't that polarizing and whatever. He did it and that was it. That was the biggest news. Let me make a point, Let me let me make a point, right, But like, but he didn't drop ahead. So you say it's safer, right, because that's kind of the narrative, like it's better, it's not.

There's still a shipload of culture happening right right now. There's still a struggle happening. There's still unearthed things that have not happened right that, that that's happening right now, that is not receiving coverage because you're talking about j Cole arguing with the blogger, or you're talking about Lebron James saying the exact same narrative that every last person in media says, like what happened of flavor? Like how is huh? Or was he not vanilla at the time?

Though you can look vanilla, Lebron is Michael Jordan's Michael. But Michael Jordan is not a polarizing athlete exactly Lebron James is. That's my whole point. You're missing the point, like Michael Jordan had way more flavor than Lebron James, and we didn't give two funks about Michael Jordan's like we just wore Jordan's shoes even though we Lakers like the point though he wasn't. I think the point with

very very safe. He was extremely safe. But I think it's always Ron James matter a matter of no, no, no, no no no. Michael Jordan ain't safe. Michael Jordan is actually a sellout. To think about Michael, to think about Michael Jordan is well this is a little bit different. But the thing why Jordan for me is this, right, Jordan was blessed to be in the area with it

wasn't social media. If Jordan was doing the ship that he was doing now, he would be extremely He might get talked about like James Harden in a lot of situations if you go gamble, when you down oh two, if you the situation with his dad, polarizing human being on the court, He's a polarizing player because the way he gets his offense off right, So I get that, like the thing he is. How could y'all be so

screwed by Mark King? This is my problem? Like, and this is what I'm saying, Like we're in this weird sick ass era where like literally spectrum is here here and y'all have narrowed it to here with all this ship going on, all this flavor in the world, the depth of j Cole of polarizing rappers arguing with a Twitter blogger like what the fuck are we talking? Like like I could never like Lebron James as a human being. I Am even him going to play overseas was was

actually polarizing. Why is that polarizing? Because he took away. Yes, it was because he took away opportunities from guys that actually deserved it when he was very hear that, though, care you tell that to a young guy who Mr Pete played in the league and did nobody care? They head that. That's in a different area we're talking about nowadays. It's not to make a squad fighting to make a EuroLeague team. Jacole want A, you are missing the point

about no money. You guys here you average two points and I'm out here busting my ass for my whole life to play ball and your malea. You know what, I just realized what it is. It's manufactured madness. It's not real. It's manufactured. Somebody told you you should be mad that he's over here playing two basketball games and you should be upset because he's taking the job from somebody else. Like that's manufactured man, manufactured, though, bro, You

nobody thought of at themselves, Nobody the general public. I thought it was he good enough over there to be taking jobs from real Hooper them two games he played. You know, nobody in the barbershop said that until literally somebody on j Cole's team, And you know what, we need to spend this. We need to make it look like athletes are mad that he's hooping. That's the problem for me. You know what actually the problem for me?

And you know who's the blame for this whole bronze sexual error, Bro, Kanye, Ever since my nigga, youa stepped on the scene, Bro, like and this is that for as square as j is, Bro, I love you with all my soul. He's in my top five and he's in the real top five. Right. But when I tell you the game like it was dope having Kanye West at first, I mean because I think like it was like fifty cent that just came out. You mean you have such a other end of this, you know what

I mean, like a Matthew Dr Dre fifty cent. You mean like this ship had been on, like hinging on the darkest part of urban culture for a long time with that ship, right, we had the ship right, and then you kind of get this Eddie Winslow perspective that lady got for saying that, could you avoid saying that, no, no, no, you got a real Eddie Winslow perspective of hip hop from like Kanye West right where it's like it's musically

sonically like excellent. It's it's structured the way records should be. Like everything about it is structured, right, it's it's like brilliant, it's sonically great. And then like it worked because at that time, I mean really fifty cent that came out the year before, So this was like crazy, Like this nigger got shot nine times, he got shot in the face. For me, like he's beaten with the biggest rapper in New York at the time. Like it literally was a

thousand things happened. That was like, you know, that was gangs, that was that was hip hop before that for a lot of time, you know, at the highest levels. So to have a guy come out, you know, that represented another look at urban life. Right, that was a little bit more straight up and down. You know, it was cool. But the thing is it worked because Ya has a lot of flavor, Like yea is super flavor. Like for me, everything like about it, whether you like the flavor or not,

it's flavor. Like that. Nigga is a cultured person. You mean, everything about his experience is culture. But the problem is the offsprings. That's the problem. Like you gotta you gotta remember, like Kanye is the copy of a copy right. So it's cool because I can still read it now. It's been twenty years that ship been copy copy, copy, copy, copy, copy copy. Now, look at what the funk we're talking about?

J Cole, who this do his original copy right? The depth of his polarity comes with him arguing with the Twitter blogger. Now. I also said he was one of the first rappers to openly just be like, Yo, yeah, we're sick of this ship. Get the funk out of here with that ship, like like you want to see ship? All of this bullshit that he was doing when he was going at Drake for all of this time, all

of the younger generations like, what's your point? Huh? He is Kanye, But that don't mean but that don't mean everybody like it. Without Kanye, Drake wouldn't have a career. That don't mean you have to like the evolution. It's his son. How don't you like your father? A lot of them don't A lot of them. That's a weird spot, Like Colon is a dope dude. But let's be honest, man, Like, come on, bro, Like that's not He's not Kanye. He's not coaching Kane he's not Kanye. I'm glad he's not Kanye.

He's not trying to be Kanye Yah missing the point. He is Kanye. Yeah, he's just not as good. He's diet Coke, and Kanye is Coke and Drake is The references are crazy, Drake Pepsi, Drake Pepsi. Genuinely just think it's just a difference in the generation. And I'm telling you from a generation where everything was hard, hard, hard hard. It's not just that it's not just hard. It's not it's hard because but the funny party is like the marketing aspect of music and culture is, they don't like

to focus on the hard things anymore. It's not that you guys are not controlling it, because you're being told by college kids who came through and created blogs. All your influences are squares. They are telling you what to consume. That's what's wrong. It's not because life don't have culture anymore. It's because who's telling you to listen. It is only listening to this ship because you still gonna play Drake

record when the drop. The most people still gonna play the new Drake they drop if the algorithm tell me or not if Drake dropping and I hear he dropping, I'm gonna listen to it because the same way Wayne, same way with you, way with fantastic, the algorithm. Let me finish, Drake is fantastic. Don't get this ship fucked up. Lebron James is a fantastic hooper. Don't getting sucked up. Ja Cole is a fantastic rapper. None of these niggas

are not talented. But the way you niggas fine over them, it's a problem because you've got too much access to their lives. Bro, It's like you didn't have to say as to whatever the funk they're doing, you can there's no more mystique anymore, exactly what you can easily feel a way about what they're doing because you can see every fucking thing they're doing. Even this is what I'm saying.

See it all on the internet. So but listen to what I'm saying until it happened to you, what the funk are they doing in real life that make you give a fun First of all, I don't follow out anybody, not but but people, but people, people just like the ship, Bro, I don't know, like he tell you, listen watching TV before we have phones. I'm not disagreeing manufactur your madness, Like what about Lebron's James life would make me be like, man,

that life is the ship? Gee? You know what the RNs. Man, It's like if you don't see a woman getting dressed and you and you see her all done up, you know you didn't see the whole process. You are there the whole time. You just see the end of products and you're kind of like wild by it. Now with Twitter, it's like you're seeing her shaver ship. You see in her without the hair hones, seeing all that crap, and they like her more. That means it's something wrong with you.

The wrong person in Patty because he don't care. I say, Gus, when when when you see how the cake is baked or whatever the hell? Then yeah? But but I'm saying, but I'm saying, even the trick itself can't geary Like, if you see a magic trick, it kind of takes away from the magic for most people, right, But nothing about these niggers is magical. I know, But I disagree with that. Like g braun Bro, you knowing him man since he was sixty years old. Literally, I just I

told you they wait, wait, I told you. They put a montage up saying he's World Chamber and Michael Jordana or whatever. And if you don't think he's there, straight, straight, completely up to that, he's somewhere in the echelon of greatest basketball players ever. They told you from the day he was sixteen he was gonna be that. He's never been to jail, never than no real scandals. He's he's, he's, he's,

he's went to He did the fucking um. Probably the most polar run thing he did was the uh decision, unfortunately, but the way he did it probably most polar round he did. He did that he said the King is coming home in the win. He one came back down three one like he has a storybook career almost he came to the lake is a small It wasn't literally, it was on Granted I'm not saying, wasn't it. You're missing the point of the story. No, No, you used

a specific term, a storybook career, storybook career. It's not Michael Jordan's storybook career. So was Lebron James. Why they told you he was gonna be When th winded traveling to Force Cities, to play basketball becomes the story. We all want to live as hoopers these days. Clearly it is because these nig That's what I'm telling you. You're being manufactured. This is manufactured madness. That's never been the story.

But listen, even Jordan's ship manufactured. Make a thing and say I'm back, Go do space jam come back within a ring, like say I'm back to the media. He said I'm back to the team. He intended to be back. No, no, they needs in the press. Release the facts to the bulls, and the bulls put it out. Come on, you know the facts, go get put out. Why you know, how the hell else are you gonna tell him? Actually you probably could. Michael Jordan's you live up, Bro, Listen to

what I'm telling you. What is going on? Bro To where we're in the era, to where half of the spectrum, three quarters of the spectrum, Like this is an error, Bro, where Puff is a bully? Puff was there? Okay, don't okay, I don't want I don't want to get into this. I don't want to get into this, but I don't want to get into the whole puff. I don't want

to get it to the whole puff thing. But like I said before, it's we're talking about things that are generationally just a disconnect, and that's just what it boils down to. Even Puff being a bully now is generationally I'm sorry, generationally uh, a disconnect because most of the time when he's quote unquote bullying people, is usually over the fact that people to him are overstepping their bounds based upon who he was. And see what Tupac did to him at the Sole Train Award time about Tupacs.

But also yes, but also Puff is more so I think Puffy business practices over time, Granted I don't know if all of them were fair, not not saying that, but the way people look at his business practices is probably the biggest thing about it and make people think he is a bully. And also he's done things like he made the niggas walk to get cheesecake. I mean they did that for the camera that was marketing. Why the funk would you walk to get a cheesecake for Puff?

This is my point. You went from an era, We went from an era to where like pot and then cussing this snick out. They don't he like literally they're saying he's running shout out the Puff because Puff is a solid nigga. Like what I'm saying. He's in the car like running because like niggas who was there, Like Yo,

he was running because Pop was screaming at him. Right, So he's running to an error where two of the rappers we have talked about, he punched one out and and and stole on up, choke one out and stolen on the other one. That don't mean he ain't grown since that ship happened. He's older. What that means when when the you know a lot of old nigga back, you know a lot of older motherfucker's that will radomly go off like why do you do that? Niggas with him?

Because he had a hundred niggas with him. Puff wouldn't have pitched the nigga thirty years ago. Puff wouldn't even pinched nobody thirty Like what the funk happened to the spectrum? Like, are y'all letting like flavorless people? Y'all letting flavorless people control the jolks about flavorless people because the niggas got but but but to me, some of them niggas have flavor. Broig think our definition of flavors. Who got flavor? Jake got flavor to me, Bron got flavor to me. Them

niggas not coin, but they got flavor to me. You know what this is like you go to a tie restaurant and then said I want the spicy current. They go tie spicy. You go no, no white people spicy like a one. Your generation is white people's place right flavor. Sometimes you'll be working with his fits. You'll be like, looking at this with his fits. I don't be fucking with his fits. The fits are insane, but also the fits are funny. You funk with his doug lit faces

when he takes the pigeons. Nah, I don't look a like Zoo Lander. I don't the niken hang out some places? Where is the flavor at? Go ahead, go ahead, bead be that guy pavy look looks bro. The nigga sits cour side of games. He'd be at to wrap his games, yelling that nigga, So y'all just that enamored with success, that anybody's successful looks like flavor. Actually, yeah, you have a lot of money. You have a lot of person

not me personally. Let heavy take that one. You have a lot of money and ship looks cool with one of his own. When you have a lot of money, that ship looks cool. We have no are you right, y'all? Just to take anything successful? This ship looks cool. You got a lot of money, looks cool. Somebody rocking with it. Nigga got just on George over your George looks cool.

See glasses are gonna say right now, back when, back in my day, ship was cool with nothing but Dickie's, a T shirt and some chucks and Travis Scott has a fucking McDonald's meal. G this ship is cool. Who the fuck cares a lot of He had niggas around up block for that guy. I wasn't there, but he had niggas around up block for that McDonald's meal. Who the fund goes around the block McDonald's. The niggas who want the Travis Scott meal. G Oh, that's what I'm saying.

You know how lane you have to be to wait in line and McDonald's for a fucking Travis Scott meal. Bro. I agree, but niggas love it. There's something wrong with that. It's not wrong what you're missing, the poor thing you're missing the point, like that's what I'm saying to you, like, all somebody has to do is appropriate wealth to you, to you to this era. Right Indeed, y'all like, oh they're cool, But Ja Cole was cool before he was rich.

People people actually fun. I mean, I'm sorry I funked with Jay Coole struggle too, because I was from the streets. What you mean, you're from the streets but you ain't not but you're not a quoteun Coote street nigga. You still gotta make it out of that motherfucker? Do you think about? Was what you melate to most about cold with skill? What you mean faan Ville of safe city? Do you know anything about fair Ville? Gee, I'm asking you a question. Do you know where he grew up

at in fair Ville? I'm asking you a question. Is it a safe city? Is any city in America safe? To be honest, there's a lot of station Wait wait wait stop that stop that stop there, it's any It's any city in America safe when you're a nigga. No, yes, no, no with that again, I fundamentally don't agree with that. So again now he goes to just a just a sheer thought of just being in America. Yep, of struggle.

But what's wrong with living your truth though glasses? I feel like you gotta problem with that, Like it's living you to live your truth. But if other people live their truth and it's not hood enough or street enough, like it's not suffice enough, what's wrong living their own struggle? What's wrong with Lebron being like the kid of a single mom who used to work two jobs and could barely take care of him. He's survived and took care of her. It makes them away from his struggle that

he had to go through. Bro, he still had to get here, but still had That's like it doesn't still gotta get he became an alcoholice that we never heard from him again. We wouldn't even be talking about dollars. You had to get here. He still had to get here. He would have dollars, and they would have been talking about how he sucked it away and how nobody, nobody, He wouldn't care nobody, Bro, Like, you still gotta get

to where you get to. Just because it ain't all fucking guns and glory don't mean that it ain't still It's not that far. Listen, It's not that far into the spectrum. If you want to just listen. Listen, because it's a lot of space from here to the air. It's a lot of space. Like you have narrow the spectrum to hear, there's just here. There's a lot of ship between here. You don't gotta just be deaf and guns can't can't give you the depth of the other

ship of white America has fucking student loans. Okay, because listen, listen, and I bet the white Americans more money than the let me finish, ninety percent of America has issues. What fucking student that loan? That's not a black person problem. Now that's not to say black people can't have that problem, but it's an American problem. What made hip hop special and the reason we subscribe to it, bro, it's because we were talking about problems that were exclusive to us.

That's still a US problems, whether you want to acknowledge it or not. Generational. But the problem to us coming up exclusive is you know, don't stop because your generation, right, the niggas that with the school of your generation tell all their kids, y'all better take your black ass to school, and then we wind up stop doing what you're doing. Stop now, Stop because you because you ask you're literally missing the key word to make a point instead of listen,

listen to that. So you just do what you're trying to do. Don't do that. Focus hip hop. We're problems exclusive to our community. I agree that the issue listen listen, no, no, listen, no listen no listen, glasses no glas glasses. In the beginning, it was. But the issue with rap at this point is it's been around for ways or fifty years. You don't get more American hip hop at this point. Again again, so what you're doing is you're about to sell out

our fucking shit. It's too late, nigger. You ain't realized that yet. It's your fault. No, it's your phone. Last time the wait, wait, wait, wait, glad, what question? That's question? Question? Last question, question question. So you said it all started with Kanye West. So at what point of Kanye West did it start going wrong. It's nothing wrong with Kanye West. Right. Kanye West came at a time when hip hop needed him right because he became something right that was so

alternative to the normal conversations right of black struggles. Right. It went from like the super left end spectrum right of struggle that creates polarity right, this negative life that is super left thing, and it brought it to a middle right where yes there were some white people problem, but he had a good grasp on oppression. He had a decent grasp on everything right, even though it struggles were his struggles. Like hip hop, ain't just about everybody

struggles time. It's not fish south side. Listen, listen it start. It's not about everybody struggling. Just everybody has a struggle. Wealthy people have a struggle. Feel me, But if you're telling me the depth of a jewish man getting rich is your greatest story of your fucking era. A jewish man getting rich mean not to me, You're missing the point. That's the person you are celebrating the loudest because he's wealthy. Like you just said it right now, he's sitting courtside.

You mean a Jewish man sitting courtside. You mean the jewish man got money. A mountains have turned, a jewish man got rich, and it's in course side mounains have turned. God has came down off the sky and changed the course of time. Jewish man is wealthy? Who ship Wow, I cannot believe it. That's like a minute being able to dump on a tiff court. It never happens. Oh so, so Will Smith didn't exist and people didn't call him

safe when your generation was coming up. Yes, okay, then so it's been safe people the whole time, permeating the culture generation exactly, So stop trying to throw it on our generation. Act like not, I'm telling it. We just listen, listen, listen.

It was dope for will Smith, right. So one thing that people don't get about wid Smith he was for children, right, So when wid Smith came out was like seven, he was for us, right because there was no other music outside of normal grown up wrapped LLL cool J that was for children. So he catered to children, was for children who he didn't make believe like the food we're

not for to dude, I'm gonna blurt that out. But what I'm saying is yes, and it was dopeful for fresh Prince right because nothing else existed like that, Nothing else existed, to be fair, when Drake came out, nothing else it like Drake except literally Kanye. I really no, no, HEO like I actually agree with them on that. No, No, listen that point. I didn't relate to Kanye to Drake and I'm from Chicago. What the fuck are you? What the fund is different about this ship? He talked about

women more I'm dead. My favorite Kanye album up to that point was Anyway, It's a Heartbreak. You know why because you're bosna be fucking listening to R and B. I didn't listen to that much R B because they talk about holes all the time. That's what they talked about his relationships. I didn't listen to that much anyway. So what existed before it existed by a whole genre full of motherfucker's relationships, but the nigga was rapping with it and then singing on the whole career is built

on women. This is true. What do we talk? I don't even make sense. Of course, he's fucking Kanye's son. I understand that. Ain't a waiting heartbreak? Is their father? Yes? I get that? And what did I just say? Eight A Waits was my favorite? Was what really introduced me to Kanye West before then I wasn't I again? You fucking with somebody is not God? Damn it? What happened? Bro? And what's happening? Is I see it coming? I see it coming a mile away. It happened with rock and roll.

I agree with that. I agree with that Regga two because I mean the white happening, you know, I was you happen. I agree with right. I agree with that there's a kinny G. Carlo was the kinny G of hip hop. It's coming. I agree with that. Fucking fault Vanilla Ice existed, eminem existed. What the they're literally you're talking about anomalies. I'm talking about great marketing. No, I'm talking about No, this is about talented people. He's talented to I don't Jack Carlo, and I don't job, and

I don't consume Jack Carlo's music. It's not about Jack Carlo. But I'm not going to argue again again again. Listen, there's no personal steak and there's no personal staking talent. Bro, That's not what I'm saying, Tim, All of these people were talking about our talented people. Yeah, I agree with that. I'm just saying, when did the fucking chicken lose the seasoning? Like all the chicken like yo, California California Kitchen is good,

like like yes, Kentucky Fried Chicken sells fried chicken. Yeah, but they don't sell murdering guns and say you're missing the point. You heard about the cholesterol problems. Yes, but but they don't. But that ain't got rid chicken. Listen, fried Chicken is so full, But that don't mean Kentucky Fried Chicken sells soul fool who was the last biggest rapper to talk about killing people in their music for the men? Stop doing that to your question not just spectrum.

I'm asking you a question. I'm specifically what you're doing. You're reducing it down to I'm saying you're marketing the mainstream America, and you won't marry j Bliss to do chicken commercials and rappers to do chicken commercials. You will pick the safest ones so that way they can market their product to your audience. Fucking sellout. It's not that it's not about it being a sellout. Nor it's not because a lot of how is it when these problems

still exists. It's not about being a sellout because the culture sold out decades ago when well, we we gave all our ship away to the white people, and we say, telling out, what do we all? What do we have? Nothing? Other than that, it's complaining about their royalties because the Vivendi family own it. Bro Rock Nation, Rocket Feller was not sold out like death Row is not sold out, like Rufus is not. So what do you that's not

true what you're doing. Isabel was still taking checks from the white man and were talking from the white man. You gotta listen to what the white man telling you to do. And if he's say, nigga, stopped talking about killing niggas, so I can put you in this commercial and we're gonna give you a million dollars that they're gonna shoot his ass up, and he's gonna start rapp about melodies and women and wearing jewelry. And that's what

happens a lot of times. That's not that's probably Travis Scott music is probably more violent than every other music. It's tons of violent, it's tons of races, attitude, it's the people that's on his songs. It's not it's not whol culture of what he talks about is racing and not violently. That's not violently And saying I'm an elbow you when we get to my concert is not being future whole. Music is about being a drug. And so was Rick James. So was Press talking about this ship

and missing the point. You're making my point. So the trauma exists still because Future is that ship, that's flavor, that's flat. You're missing the point because you just wanted to bate it because you don't want to be on it. And this is the brond sexual niggas. Future is Flavor, but Future also speak out of drake and work with a drake. So explain to me why this ship happens the same reason run dm C works with Aerosmith, the

same reason if somebody could work with mcdonnad. It's not about them working with them, but when they become the representation of you and your struggle. You were complicit in that. When you when you walk this way and you was complicit in and when you hate that song I hate Nellie, I'm not talking about talking about running see you was gonna listen and creating this sellout culture when you may

walk this way, all these we understood. No white dudes and hip hop, No, we don't care about white dudes. It it's not about white dudes and hip hop is the problem. It's the problem when you start allowing the culture to shift into a place to where the majority of it doesn't represent our problems right from the urban street corners. Right, that's exclusive to the ship we're going to.

When you start making the depth of your struggle as a rapper, college loans, being accused of stealing pants, right, a Jewish man who gets rich, that's the depth. I just think the death you don't. I just think you don't consume think that was the full depth of of Coal and kind story. That wasn't the full depth of Drake. He was like somebody being from Canada who had a who was mixed, who had um a white mother, who

came to career. Is I'm a Disney Channel actor who got a lot of money and I tricked it off on Instagram models. That's the depth of this whole story. Don't try to make that ship. And that's my problem. He traveled to America, he has a Jewish mother, he was a child star actor. But but listen, I also think that's why Drake is not fully accepted in hip hop the same way like let's say Kendrick Is. He's

not a hip hop artist. He's an artist who raps. Yeah, I don't think he's fully accepted in hip hop, but I do think I feel you as far as rap Um getting less away from his roots. But I think the issue with that, like I said earlier, it's been around fifty years. It is an American. That's not why it's getting away though American. Listen, you're not finding mixed things. That's further than the culture. You're finding things the same

things that other garmers went to too. When you stop allowing flavor to represent it, right, you're again the thing about hip hop that they didn't used to tell us what to listen to. Like, you literally go to the urban record store and some nigga like, you need to funk with this nigga. Right, So the closest marketing could happen could be the record retail person or the one stopped telling the record guy, hey pushed this record. If you pushed this many units, I think you still got

that though. No, what you have now is since the blog error started shout out to the homies is a bunch of college kids telling you what's hip hop? Playlisting college kids telling you what's hip hop. And the college kids was doing that too. They were just working at the record labels in the marketing and sales departments. They were yes, they were had records. No, you wasn't. Tom step also had deaf jam was corny white dudes and college that team though with some black dudes. They Russell

Simmons is deaf jam. So who did business with Rubin? What you're missing that there was white nerdy college kids. It's not white. I'm telling you. They didn't shake the complete coach. They're shaping your culture completely. They're helping lie in your pocket so you can go a market and exude what they're not helping line your pockets. They're writing you out of the same thing that they wrote every last other motherfucking person out of. This won't be ours,

sure enough, it's inevitable. And I'm asking you based on this era. And it's not lebron fault. It's it's all I've never you know, Michael Jordan's for being vanilla. So so when a guy like Lebron come along, what does Lebron and Michael Jordan have to do with it? You're missing the point of what I'm saying. In the previous generation,

I'm not blaming I'm not blaming Lebron. I'm blaming fans of Lebron who grew up on Lebron I'm blaming the fact that you can micro managed market complete stories polarity. That's my point. Lebron is a symptom, not the disease. People blame Lebron. It's not lebron fault. He's not before see, And this is the point. I never blamed Lebron. It's funny. We agreed on the language and I meant it in the complete opposite meetings, and I think I never blamed Lebron.

It's not Lebron's fault. It's your fault, not yours. But you say he's safe, and when you say, we say he's controversial, so you are kind of blaming him by saying, I'm blaming y'all for because you don't fucking know it's a manufactured controversy from the people around him. Goes back to what Path said, success. How do you frame success with flavor? That's the problem. That's the problem with hip hop.

Everybody's trying to market wealth. So because that's all you want to buy now, not even that fucking poor, you've kind of always market wealth and rap. We've kind of always marketed. We have always has always been no, that's always been a side that kind of marketed wealth or like or like money being some level of a status symbol. Do you understand Rockefeller's whole marketing was wealthy, the whole market as well. Yeah, some niggas. Why I worked, you

know why? It was dope, bad way to market wealth. It's different. You know why. You know why I worked because it was a bunch of fucking niggas from Brooklyn and Harlem trying to get rich. Yeah, that's why it was the struggle, trying to overcome the struggle. So they were trying to market themselves into position, not a bunch of niggas who should be rich getting rich. If the song how you still gonna play it though? Every time? Every time, but all I'm saying it's not. But again,

you keep That's why I stayed early on. I said, it's not about talent. They were talented people the whole time. They just didn't represent the culture as the front. I'm telling you, bro, like this is what I'm saying, Like you're saying, this is what you're saying. You're saying this Niga is so polarizing. That's crazy, and I just polarizing. He is polarizing. He's a polar He's not like on the scale of one to ten, it's probably a five. On the scale one of team, he's a three. Do

you know what's polarizing his fucking fanatics. That's the point of this conversation. It's not Bron Bron straight up and down. I can see when the brin gonna do before you do it. I told you what he's gonna do in this season as a basketball player. I got him down from the first to the last day. Easy nothing. Aboudium says, I don't know what's gonna happen. He's almost too easy. He's actually too easy to know what's gonna happen. His fan base is unfucking believable. Y'all got to be the

most polarizing motherfucker's breathing air because he raised people. He's so much a part of people's lives. I'm not disagreeing athletes were a part of all our lives. But you got twenty four hours. Actress was Eddie murpht was a part of my life. But you got twenty four hour access to these people or some people that don't matter. They don't have anything going on twenty four hours. It's not like they're doing some ship that's polarizing disconnect to you to back to back drop at four o'clock in

the morning, I could got killed. You know why, because that is one of the most polarizing moments and hip hop in his career. I agree, don't have polarizing I didn't say that. Just wake up early in the morning all the time to push your T shirt. Like listen, I don't even follow Drake on any social media. No, you don't because I know you. I don't follow no slaves only social media because I don't care. But then

how did I get it? Like I remember somebody was tweeted, Oh, Drake bed eight thousand dollars on the fucking Duke game because people love fucking sports betting, so they see Drake putting eight thousand dollars on the dude game, me a game. People love that ship. They eat it up. I don't know why would they eat it up. I'm telling you what, Lebron, When the nigga said, fucking don't be a player, be a player, lame is hell? People ate it the funk up.

That's interesting to people. You know why? I interested? You know why it's interesting to those people? Why? Because they're fucking lane. That's you just said it like I saw that, But people like that, what that said? What ron bergne is? I laughed at it. I thought it was a joke. I laughed at it. And next people are like, you don't be player, be player. I'm like, yo, because that's how little flavor is acquired for people to have to choke down the meat these days. Exactly like that killing

me man, I don't know people like that. Ship. Good looking out for tuning into the No Sellers Podcast. Please do us a favorite, subscribe, rate, comment, and share. This episode was recorded right here on the West Coast of the USA and produced by my homeboy A King for the Black Effect Podcast Network and I Heart Radio. Yeah.