Well, don't dudes play with the devil. Dog I'm not making this about that, but they do, and um and and this. I think I would what I would like to believe. No black people play with the devil. Well, Easy, Easy, he was a noon Satanist. That's not true. I've had people that whose working. I'm gonna tell you a story. Easy had this weegie boardy funk with Rhan came up to Easy when he was working. The red board took that ship and broken, like like literally broken, they said.
Easy looked at ring like this, got up, went to the back of his car and got another one that went right back to doing what the funk he was doing. This motherfucker had an arsenal weegie boards and this thing. So this comes from this website called the Travel. It is unclear why the Love Parade decide that the narrow tunnel entrance into the festival was a smart idea for this one and the twenty one Dead feel the same way. The festival grounds reached maximum capacity and the police responded
by closing off the entrance. They asked people to leave calmly, but the crowd turned into a stampede as they went in the other direction. This is a tragedy that festival goers will never forget. And as the Love Parade continues, they refused to forget what happened that faithful year. Five hundred to a thousand people were injured. This is the Love Parade in two thousand ten. Another one is that Trevor Scott's event. No, no, it's called the Love Parade
or Love Parade. Um, I'm not sure alright, so I think I'm not sure I was pronounced. But there's a festival in Morocco. I think it's pronounced Mamasine or Milesine. But this festival in Morocco, right in tooth I was a nine actually ended in the depths of eleven people after a stampede trampled them. There were seventy thousand fans
packed into the stadium to see Adelaide statuy. I think that's how it's pronounced Abdelaide's after, you know, And after the performance, the police failed to secure exits for the masses. The people who died became trapped beneath the metal security fence that toppled over concert goers over the fence that topple over after concert goers decided to make their own exits, the police did not intervene, and the fund festival ended in a deadly disaster. Well, you know, there have been
several instances of um, these things going sideways. UM. It takes a lot of logistics and planning to put on one of these events. And I genuinely would say that whatever the um you know, because the sheriffs and the fire department and all those guys usually come through and do a walk through. So I'm pretty sure that these people are worn beforehand that they may have these little things now. Sometimes they may go off without a hitch.
Sometimes you get stuff like what happened with Travis scott Stein And I'm glad you actually brought that up right, No sailings, g l My boy, Peter, my manager and the owner of of Digital Soapbox, one of the best, if not the greatest podcasting company in the world. Still big Steal is own with us. What's having to steal? We in this place? Oh man, we're here, man, I see Um, I don't. I don't got conjolting to being a regular. But it's cool because they've told Peter is
just like having a conversation anyway. This we're just doing it ship we talked about on the phone. That's what makes our ship great. That's what makes me and Peter ship dope because it's just a conversation. It ain't an interview. So the point I was saying was you had no idea who was on stage right when the incident at the Love Parade happened. No, this day, did not know who was on stage when the concert happened, when the people died, when the incidents happened, You have no ideals
on stage. Same thing with this festival in Morocco, you know, last decade as well, you had no idea right who was on stage. They talked about who could have been there, who was next, but they did talk about was on stage right. Now, if I ask you about the Route Harvest festival in Las Vegas that was in two thousand seventeen, right where sixty people was gunned down at this festival, you're gunned down, you know, okay? And it was over eight hundred people injured at this festival. Do either one
of you guys know who was on stage? No? Well, you know what it was? The Country Western Guard in Vegas. Correct, It's the Country Western concert? Was it? Um? What's the girl's daddy. No, it wasn't him. It wasn't him. And you know why I wasn't him mhm. Because the media didn't say it was his fault, because the media didn't say, let me finish. Because the media didn't say, well, he didn't tell people to duck and run and blah blah blah.
What happened was he got the hell out of there, Jason Dean, Right, And I don't want to compare this incident to that incidents because what happened at the Astro World situation is unique because rather it's not unique. Somewhere near forty five to fifty festival goers die every year, roughly die the exact same way. You know, this is stuff. This is research that us as parents do when you got teenage kids, you do stuff like this. That's why I don't let Jasmine attend open concerts like that. I
never let Chris go to those things. You know, I was pretty you know, I'm pretty open with my kids going places and experiencing things. But what I usually do bro Like, I almost cried today when I read this. Um dad he was he saw pictures of his son at the incident, right, He noticed his shoes and he said, well, maybe he would sleep. He started trying to like compartmentalize it in his head, well maybe he would sleep, but he kept saying, no, he's dead. I can feel that
he's gone, that he's not here anymore. So he's calling the police. Um following missing concerts report. Nobody wants stay fourteen to sixteen year old son or daughter to leave home and go somewhere to have fun with their friends, and you hear about them getting stump to death later on, you know. But but again, it's one of those things that if you look at the history of these type of festivals, this is the norm. Now some people say, yeah,
some people that say that don't make it right. Well, if that's custom right, if if if this is your traditional idea of what happened at festivals, the routiness, the freeness to move around, to be wild, something's bad happen. Now. I'm not saying you don't have to be financially liable. I'm not saying you don't have to be responsible for everything going on. That's not the point I'm saying. What I'm saying is I've never seen such a target painted
on one person's back. Who would that be Travis scott Man and then you know, but that's the thing with these lawyers on we're living in such a lateigious society right now that usually, like let's say, if someone sued um James McDonald, right, not only would they sue James McDonald, they would suit Digital Soapbox, they would sue I Heart Media, they would sue Black Effect. They probably even sue your
ass Glasses and Peter they was on this podcast. They sue everyone around and usually as the case goes along, people usually drop off. They usually found that they don't have no liability in certain things, like I don't understand where Drake plays that an equation with that. Was he a part of the event or was he just a guy act that was down there just to perform. Well, he he was, He performed on stage, but no, he wasn't a part of the promotions. He wasn't even promoted
as part of the concept. That's excuse me, as part as the festival. And that's what I'm saying. So and I get it, man, but I would be thinking at the time, me as a parent, the last thing I would be thinking about doing his filet in the lawsuit on somebody because that's not gonna bring my child back. I would be piste off. I would be angry, but then again, I would probably more mad at myself because you know what happens to these things, and it's not
just the violence of the stuff like this. You have a lot of incidents a rape down there, man, incidents of rape of these festivals. Um, it's a lot of fighting, a lot of bullying going on. It's just a lot of bad stuff because it's a lot of freedom and usually it's not enough law enforcement there to protect it. You know, for every law enforcement you know, you may have wherever the staff prosecurity dude, you may have one police officer for every twenty staff pro police dude, new
staff pro dudes. They're just to get their little hundred bucks and it's really and it's really nothing you can do. That's the point. It's been meant to be unruly. Did you guys see the thing on Instagram with Stevo and the Insane Clown Posse. No, but I've I've actually performed at an Insane Clown Posse festival. So that's the whole
story I'm gonna tell you about that. Three six was there, so I guess because Steven dot dot dot version used to go to clown school after he went to college and said that I c. P. Is not real clowns, and they got all piste off, so they're gonna beat his ass when they see him, and he was like, I didn't remember having said that. So he called him and they talked, and then they invited him down. So he goes to the thing and as he's going there, he wanted to get that clown tattoo that they have
and apparently called it the hatchet Man exactly. I guess the in sat clown posse fan base nation, whatever the hell they call themselves, it's called the Juggalos and juggal the Juggalo jug Juggalos that right, because they will suck you up. Yeah, there's a federal injunction against them. It's like a reco federal injunction. It's very I've never heard of anything like that. So I'm glad you brought up I c P. Right, who was some of the coolest guys in the world. Shout out to them brothers and
their motherfucking white boys, fucking funny and great. Um. So they invited me to perform at a festival that they have called the gathering. Right, I did two gatherings, that's do So let me tell you about the gathering, right, it's it's tens of thousands of motherfucker's right. And so this particular year was in this little small town in Indiana. So me and Head were on a plane, right, Me and Head going, we're excited because we heard about the gathering.
Technin told us about the gathering. Um, everybody talked about the gathering. So we were invited. So we have to fly into Atlanta and drive two and a half hours to get to the place. But they're paying like twenty bucks, like they overpaid. I'm like, then that's cool. So long story short. We fly into Vegas, Lem, excuse me. We flying to Atlanta. The cold part is I remember it so well because it was a storm in Georgia at
the time and we couldn't land. It was too much traffic on the ground, so we had to fly in the circle a circle like, so we kept flying through a storm cloud. And there was a lady on the fucking plane, bro, that was so scared because of what was gonna happen. She thought the plane was going on that she thought the plane would go down. So we're flying in the circle. We had to fly through the storm cloud probably ten of twenty times. That sounds like
the flight from the Denzel Washington movie. Are you sure it wasn't the same flight? No, No, I wish it was because they at least it have been over. At least it's been down. So this lady prepared, ass head, next time you talk, because this lady bro every time we got through that cloud, she was hysterical, like crying, but it was like over, and so she would calm down and just be patting until we went through the cloud again. Right and ass head like it take head
to explain it. So we get down. We finally land, were on the ground. We drive, We drive to this festival. You have to pull in right, you own this property. Thousands, tens of thousands of people, tens of thousands. They're offering your motherfucking asked whatevery your motherfucker. It's women trying to give you pussy. Hey do you want to fuck? Hey? Do you want some pussy? I think you cute? Would you like some pussy? Is people trying to sell you
some pussy? That's all kind of crazy ship going on. It's like you just went into a whole another world of ship. Motherfucker's passed out, my fucker's loaded, my fucker's dead. But it's just crazy. Right. So when we're war me right, we get on stage, just thousands of people. You gotta have an in ear monitor because it's so many people, right, you can't hear. It's lights in your face, so you can't see. So I'm looking at all this stuff Travis is going through, right, because I know what it's like
to be at that kind of festival. And again, we've done a couple of different things like this, and that's the idea, the unruling. This is why people like festivals. Festivals don't have a hundred thousand seats. When you're sitting next to each other and you pick a row and you just sit down, and you know you're watching the This is not a fucking concert. It's not yo. This is not the Hollywood Bowl, bro, this is the motherfucking rebellion.
And so when I listen to people talk about what happened at Astro World, and I just know they have no idea of what's going on. They have zero idea of what's going on. They don't have no idea and they just taught her, well, Travis could have did this, Travis could have did that. And I'm gonna read something back to you about I'm gonna read something back to
you about the Love Parade. It is unclear why the they it is unclear why the actual promotion, the promotion of the of the festival decided a narrow tunnel into the festival was a smart idea for this one. Twenty one people died. The festival grounds reached maximum capacity, like what happened at Astra World, and the police not security. The police responded by closing off the entrance. The police asked people to leave calmly, but the crowd turned into
a stampede as they went into the tunnel. This thing is made for people to be unrutly. Now, I'm not saying it again that people are not liable, But the problem is when you got all these people, I'm not feeling how they're trying to make this little brother the whole face of this problem. This is life at the festivals. Well, you know that the fortunate part of body she is um those events. And I'm pretty sure Travis Scott got a pretty good team to run him. I'm pretty sure
he has a lot of insurance on that event. I'm pretty sure he had a super duper amountivation that events. So here's here's your number, twenty six million dollars. Mm. But the damages will exceed over a hundred million dollars. Oh wow, Well that's his insurance for that's that's the whole total insurance for the whole event. Well, I mean, I think you've answered your own question. I mean, like the billion dollar enterprise will be more than happy to
hide behind the million dollar enterprise. So Live Nation would much rather soil his name and soil their name because he might you know, what's the rest of his career versus what's the next ten years of gross revenue for them worth? Well, you know what the thing about this, I was just talking with an attorney about Chris, because you know, Chris got a lot of stuff going on right now, you know, and we're dealing a lot with insurance, like we are Chris Stale. So so, nephew, Chris Steal
is still son. He's a safety slash cornerback for your corner number eight, soon to be a safety son, to be the best safety in NFL, because he was meant to be a safety. I don't care anyway. He plays in UNC. He's super ill. So when he said Chris, this is we talked about go ahead. You know this guy. So we were meeting with this guy. And it's funny because Maria thinks like and she always thinks about the worst case scenario. That's my wife, you know, she always
think about that. She already had Chris, but some above board car insurance. Right, he told us a story about the NFL player, UM, I won't say his name us in the NFL. He was celebrating getting drafted in Chicago. Right, So he had this party, had his best friend he grew up with, best friend whole wide world did his friend gets so drunk he falls in swimming pool and drowns and dies. So they party and nobody knows what this guy is that he's under the water, but nobody knows,
so they find him. The next day. He winds up getting sued guess by who, by the mama, by his best friends mama, his best friend's baby mama, and they sued him for a nice little amount of money. Um, the insurance covered it, but I'm pretty sure Noine days, man, you almost have to have way more above insurance than what you think you're gonna need, like by Chris having
his own apartment. Now, dude, we got like a ten million dollar policy there, just just in case somebody coming in and slipping fall and they sue him, because you don't have to. When you all a lawsuit with someone, you can fill a laws of six months from now. If if Lastes punched me in my face the day, I can follow lawsuit six seven months from now and say I haven't been right since then. We were lived in a day and age man where everybody is always
the purse. First something had let biases Mom suthe Boston Celtics for drafting one. I wouldn't doubt it, definitely, I believe the answer is no. But but you know the thing, he is man Like I said, we live in a lategious society, so you have to protect yourself. And I can't imagine traffics Scott because see, it's just not liability on him. I'm pretty sure the venue has a huge amount of insurance too, So I think that's what I was trying to ask. It's not but it's not going
to be enough insurance. It's gonna be severely not enough you know what I think on some of that stuff. I think some of it is overexaggerated. And I'm not talking about the people that that I'm talking about as far as the damage, where'd they come up with the number? One hundred million dollars? Is that's what? But myself, it's an empty piece of land. We could be only this worth a hundred million dollars with land that they correct the earth, just just human capital damage and that's it. Yeah,
they said it exceeds a hundred millions. So again now you have and this is what I'm saying, like right where they're trying to sell for thirty whatever the hell, Well, this is what's weird. Right, So now they're publishing articles and now it's turning into a whole schmer campaign on Travis and his brand. Right. So it's like, now there's a man who was paralyzed in the two thousand and seventeen Travis Scott concert, extremely upset over astral World tragedy.
Lawyer says he's not upset about him about his festival experience. He's upset about this festival experience. Yes, I just want to check yep. You know what the problem is, Gene and This is more an episode about these file last lawyers, many attorneys. It's not the attorneys, it's it's listen, these attorneys are the people that give these people the ideas to go where we're gonna sue and go after everyone, even Drake. Fuck him, We're going up to Drake too,
because we're looking. It's it's cheaper and faster to settle out. You send a letter, you raise your handed contact of media, outfit, publicist, or whatever the hell they look. Just let's make this go away. We'll settle you want talent given five, get the funk out of here and faster. Everybody but Travis had already said that he was the cover these people's expenses and bells. He already came out to say that all the money listen, So there now. So now the
thing is, he was extremely upset and sad. This is
the guy who was paralyzed in two thousand seventeen. Because name is Kyle Green Kyle, So Kyle says he was extremely His attorney says he was extremely upset and sad for the devastation to these people, into their families, the people who are killed and the people who were horribly injured at the same time, he was really angry at Travis, at Travis team, including his security, because Travis clearly hasn't learned from what has previously transpired or what previously occurred.
He hasn't learned. The problem is festivals in general haven't learned. How is it like, how are we putting the burdens of all of this concept on track? Hell, since the sixties, the Rolling Stone put on a damn concert. The Rolling Stone put on a concert in the sixties in northern California. They hired the Hell's Angels. I'm gonna say that was that. That was the Monterey Bay Festival, and that was Yeah, the Hell's Angels said that it's called it's called the
outmont Festival. That's what they called it. They were trying to compete with woodstock. They just trying to make the woodstock of the West and big jazz Chopolin, Charlie. I is know, when somebody's being railroading, and this is what it looks like. This is what it looks like to watch somebody be railroading like he has a responsibility, no
different than r Kelly having a responsibility. But what happens is when somebody trumps up the idea right to put somebody else like as the front man on the cross, Like, yo, this whole thing should be with with with all due respect to live nation. This should be their motherfucking problem.
But somehow they're saying he incited the stampede, but he didn't, you know, nine times out of team g you know, you being an artist, I'm pretty sure traffics Scott is not the one that thought of, hey, I want to have a um astro a world. I'm pretty sure somebody came to him and proposed this and said this would be a nice event. So he was doing a thinking okay, you know what I mean, it kind of was supposed to be his idea. Maybe somebody secretly came to him.
But you know, he had an album called astro World, and Astro World was a theme park, a six flag thing park in Houston. So we just kind of did it. And so now what's crazy is right? So you got like, right, all of the white folks, right, all of the crackers, they're just going, you know, crazy, right, they just going, oh it's him, you know, blah blah blah, and he's it was negligence. They don't care that the Houston Police
Department was there. They don't care because they is. Sometimes every white person is not a cracker, or some some crackers as white folks. What's wrong with that? Damn you don't like to work cracker? You know what I was just saying. I was just asking, is I see Peter right there? You know our white brother Peter a cracker. Peter's ex ginger, did you write Peters of the Rolls
Gold community. He's Canelos, He's Canelo's distant the most vindicating show these Carnello's distant cousin, Canelo Alvarez, all all this, all the Spain, that whole connection. But he's a part of the roads go come unity. So yeah, just because somebody's this is not like we're not gonna go into That's a whole another conversation. America has a very weird
relationship with music. Like I was talking abot this. I think I did a show, my old show years ago, like if like Ozzy Osbourne getting dragged in the court because some kid listened to his music and killed himself or something like that, or whatever the fuck, or Marilyn Manson, pick a guy, whatever, anybody dark anybody, But but but nobody freaks out at movies like you can you watch Scarface go snort of line and pop somebody. It's oh hey,
it's just a movie. But for some reason there's a real funny relationship with it when it comes to music specifically as an art versus other forms of art. And I don't never understand it. Sure you're right. I could just do scar Face and go do a line, would do with snort lines that shoot people. I mean, for Christ's sake for an hour and a half and vivid picture. But you gotta think about where we at, right, Um, you and Pete, we're at against the chronicles one h
of the episode event right, correct? So that again, oh for sure. One So one of the homies pull up right duding the wheelchair. He's gonna be on the show. I see him rolling around, um the office park area, right, and I'm wondering, like we over here, bro, what is you doing over there? And I saw this dude with him writing some stuff on paper. Then another motherfucker come up and get off the car. He pulls a wheelchair out the back of his car and getting a wheelchair.
Now this motherfucker was just perfectly driving just fine. Then he pulls a wheelchair out when he gets there, and he started doing the same thing, and I said, what is y'all doing, Like, what is y'all y'all looking to renting office is something? They said, no, they don't have um, they don't have handicap access here to get up on the thing. So that's five thousand dollars. I'm gonna make twenty thousand dollars. And they called both called this attorney.
I'm not gonna get you'll names. They both called this attorney. Next thing, you know, when I went back up to the same spot, you know, that's where Big A is at Gene. They have the ain't for sure. So they got the things up. They're not the ramps for the access. Because both of them dudes file the lawsuit. They said a lot of court. They may do get the things, but they do that for a living. They drive around
the different places to make sure. Now just imagine you would do the owner store and everybody that's a business owner is not rick. Some people just making a living. You get some asshole come up in a wheelchair and it's not really hurt at that. Now one of them dudes is really you know, paralyzed from the waist down. But this other motherfucker, he just coming up. He lazy, That's what I call it. So he got a wheelchair, he rolling around, got a wheelchair in the back of
his ship. He get out, files a lawsuit. You don't have these things and they make a living. Them dudes both make it about a hundred and fifty to two hundred thousand dollars a year just from that one caper. And I said, man, damn, damn the pride. I must be doing something wrong in life by being honest, bro, because it seemed like the crooked, corrupt motherfucker's always come up like we did in the last episode. You know that those who sell their soul, if you they could
a sailor from me making a profit. But so so that's my issue with how white America is dealing with it. It's like us Travis Travish, Travish, Travis Funk Live Nation Funk. They got a concert to the next day, it's Travish, It's Travis, no disrespect. I love a lot that shout out to all the homies there, but this is your responsibility. Y'all should be doing things to sholter Travis from these
white folks. Okay, So now we go to the black part of America, right, and now this is a part I can relate to, right spiritually, Pete don't believe in God or any of that stuff right there, Like you know, Pete, do you think you have a soul? Um? Not because you rolled cold, but do you think you have a soul? I don't know. I don't like. Okay, okay, so you don't subscribe. So in our community, we are spiritual people. That's we we truly believe, you know, from the Motherland
even here. That's how we're able to survive and adure all this ship. So we have a real spiritual connection, you know, minus all of the chosen discipline of religions, right, the energy right of Travis, the energy of like a triple X rest in peace um and a Playboy CARDI comes across as Batten for something outside of God, like, outside of righteousness and goodness. Right, And so they're in our community right now, in the culture, there's a real
conversation with what does he really represent? And now something tragic happen, you know, I mean it's like it was always questions initially about what he represented and blah blah, blah. But now somebody dies, you know immediately what's going on? It's like, yo, who is this guy batting for? Is there anything that discussion with like um with the Kodak? No, no discussion. I just found the article. You mind if I read it, and I may share the video that's
on here too, your mind. But but but you see where we at though, right, see what we're talking about? Yeah, okay, go ahead, Yeah, I just found something. And this is about you know, this is me going to a few minutes ago when you were talking about you know, people just come to execution on Travis. Now this is in the Wall Street Journal. The Houston fire chief says rap stars should have stopped the show before he did. Lawyers for hip hop stars said he didn't see the chaos.
Travis Scott didn't know what was happening in the crowd of more than fifty thousand fans at his show last Friday, Lawyers for the hip hop artists said, and didn't take bigger steps such as harding the performance that the other music acts have employed the control crowds. Eight people arranging in age from fourteen and twenty seven died amid a crowd sers doing Mr Scott's headline performance at the astral World Festival in Houston. Now they're bringing up some other stuff.
Local authorities are investigating the crowd surge, the adequacy of security efforts, along with scenarios, including the potential role of counterfel peels possibly being lace for fit and all. Now they're bringing up something about some counterfeit peels and they ain't got shipped to do with the price of t and Shana. Well, some people say that's what caused the surge, right, somebody was sticking people. It was on t MC. It
was a big deal. But but and and and that is the same point right where it's like Travis scot should have did this, but nobody is gonna say Jason al Dean should have. Like they're saying he encouraged what happened, and it's like not true. There's never a video on the show Life Rush the front of the stage. I don't care what's in front of you, Like this is serious. They're playing with somebody's life. But then not back to
our community right where it's all spiritual. So it's like, you know, some of the things like if you look at the opening entrance right of the actual part right. Um, it's like a super old cool carnival thing that they've used forever. And it's based off of painting called Christ and Limbo. Christ and Limbo is a painting from the sixteenth century and it's supposed to be a visual artist is description of hell. Look it up when you get
a chance of y'all listening. Christ and Limbo, And if you look at the Astro World entry, it's kind of marked the same way, which I do think a lot of people who was designing carnivals initially it's it's some different people, Like whether or not you believe in Satan to God, it's people who do so very much they are following, just like it's some people who follow the light, fear me and follow the righteousness of it. It's some
people that followed the other side. So between the mouth of malak and and and um, Christ and Limbo painting, you mean, So it's always been questions like there's a portal, the idea behind this, a portal behind Travis on his set saying meet you on the other side. And it's a thousand things that make the Ulcher question, like, Yo, what's up with bro? And I and I keep trying to tell the brothers like, this ain't the time for that.
And it's hard because it's such a greater battle, but this isn't the time to you know, we just allowed R Kelly for them to turn our Kelly into fucking a slave trader. R Kelly was fucking treated and prosecuted like a slave trader. It wasn't even a slave trader prosecuted like that. What I'm saying like, this is something that that man had, you know, pornography because he has sex or had video having sex with a fifty year or whatever. This his cases a six or seven years sentence.
They have been able to trump it up into twenty and thirty years. And I keep telling the brothers, this is the same thing that could happen with Travis. This could be some long term ship. Like they're already scratching them from every concert. They already mistreating him. He's guilty
before any trial. I mean, he's guilty. So this whole Astral world has just been on crazy left and right, just crazy, And it's like I'm a spiritual process, so I always have had questions about Travis and them and Triple Legs Rest in Peace or Playboy PARTI where they keep using like the energy in the in the idea of well them dudes play with the devil. Dog, Yeah, and I don't. And that's what I'm not making this
about that. But they do, and uh and and and this I think what I would like to believe, No black people play with the devil. But that's probably true. But what I do believe is there are a lot like Pete where they don't believe in it, but that don't need other people believe in it. Well, Easy, Easy, he was a noon Satanist. Yeah, I don't know that's true. I never knew that. I'm telling you the truth. I've
heard this from DJ Bob. He ain't no goddamn satanists. Dog, I'm telling you, I've heard this some people at work from my heard this is not a Satanist, Easy, he was a Satanist. Gee, why do too? Three? Why do you do? Be lying on niggas all the time? But three people with the same exact story that don't know each other. She ain't just telling me some bullshit? And Easy could have sucked the people laddies and know all that. He ain't no goddamn saying this of all, Bob don't
have no reason allowing Easy that was his man. He ain't never heard that of damn my life Easier. But no, listen, this is real ship. That's a known fact. No, this is real ship. People that knew him. He was a Satanist. Dog. He played with the devil. He worshiped the devil, had boards. I'm gonna tell you he did not worship the devil. She why do you do that? Dog, I'm gonna hang up this thing. You do that all the time. You've seen the nigga worshiping the devil, Dude, I've seen pictures
of the nigga boy. You see Easy worshiping the devil. I didn't know Easy like. And therefore, how you gonna say? I can't say it, and you can said And I'm telling you just like you believe it. I believe it's not true. No, because I'm telling you something that people that know the man officially intimately is telling me. And they don't even funk with each other like that. Niggas that normal. I never heard that. It ain't like people lead with a conversation about the way Easy he was
a devil worshiper. This thing is relevant to that. He's come up in the conversation. Also, how did you get to that? No, because you we were talking about traffics, Scott and some of the little we know. How the hell was you talking to a nigger? And he was like, you know what, Easy used to worsh some satan. That's crazy. We were talking about bone thugs and harmonies, early artworking stuff. We were talking about their music, and that was Easy.
This idea Easy was the one that gave him the idea for that imagery and the song Mr Weegi and all that stuff. That was his idea. I'm gonna tell you, I need, I need, I need crazy to confirm that. Dude, he can ask you, Bob. So you're telling Bob you call and go back now, Yes, I called. I called Bob because you just disagreeing again, just to be fucking disagreeing.
These dudes ain't got no reason why the namesake of this show being a troll all to his show because he just he this is green, just to fucking disagree. You are calling somebody in the in the in the Battle of Black folks. You're calling them literally the worst thing you could call a black person. And I'm going too far. Easy was a devil work. You ain't never seen it. That's not true. People that whose word is lying. So Bob cat is lying the first time in their
life they told a lie. They're just lying on poor Easy. They so so the only lot. So Bob Catty never told a lie. Mac ain't never told a lie. Never. No, I don't think from that people they don't have is lying from the conversation. No, because it's not like Bob. I'm gonna tell you Bob. But even this was a private conversation me and Bob was having. Bob withdn't even the type of dude that would come on the show and talk about that. He would probably laugh about it
and say, well, yeah, he's like doing this thing. You can ask Rihan, Ask Rihan. I'm make sure you ask Rihan. Yeah, as asked Ring about it. Asked Ring about it. Because I'm gonna tell you a story, and this is what we're talking about. Gold Mac was talking to me one day. Easy had went to the Easy had this weegie board he funk with. Rhan came up to Easy when he was working the red board, took that ship and broken,
like like literally broken, they said. Easy looked at Ring like this got up, went to the back of his car and got another one that went right back to doing what the funk he was doing. This motherfucker had an arsenal weegie boards and this thing. He had a motherfucker's arsenal the wheel. Even know you're just spreading bad gossip, Collie, one of the most important people in the history of motherfucker hip hop, you just spread if you walk there
confirmed this story that I'm not lying. Man gonna cuts you out. He throwing his name lying on n No, Rien ain't gonna cut me up because it was the truth. The Nikkel played with the devil. He ain't no say worship and he ain't played with the devil. Shouldn't be saying this, but he played with the devil. Hypothetically, it's just a hypothetical question. If random we're to confirm this, what would your reaction be, I'd be in disarracted. Still,
he was still doubted. He would say no friend. If rand says glasses, if em c Ren says okay, Travis Scott being the sating you said, he's savag Scott playing with the devil. You never met Travis Scott, So I didn't say that I'm saying, they say, no, this is a whole different I don't know about what Travis Scott's you don't know what easy he was doing. But this is not the point. The point is, Yes, if em c N says, yeah, Glasses, he was a satan as he's playing with the devil, I believe it. We're gonna
get him on Instagram lot very soon, hopefully. Yeah, because I don't know why it is to the rim. Actually, let me call go Mac right now, man, because you're pissing me off. Don't call go Mac. We'll do this another time. We could do this on we could do this on Conversations in the Wild, Church on Sundays, some kind of like about Jimmy Hendricks back in the day with all that ship. Yeah, because you know, I can't get motherfucker's on your dog. I can't get motherfucker's come on.
That's cool. That's the best part about this our relationship. Because Church on Sundays, Glasses gonna issue a public apology for calling every one hundred I apologize to every one of them. If somebody comes on this, motherfucking say easy, dude. Church on the first episode of Church on Sundays is going to be involving the Satanist. Yes, this is poetry. Can't write itself better man, You guys are good, but trust me, we haven't. We haven't. But this is my point,
right And that's what I'm saying. Like Still is a brother like he from Cleveland, He from like one of the blackest places in America, like when you talk about black black people in Ohio, the Midwest. So the way we feel about it and the way we spread that conversation, we spread it like, bro, that's crazy. So I'm hearing Niga said Travis Scotton say this now for me, it's like, I'm really careful what's saying this? Travis play with and then I just found the DC. We fin focus focus
were we fled? We've fenl a focus on this right now, we do that another time. Focus on this right now? Bring you just bring all your good episode right here now, all about Satanists and wrap. No, we're gonna do that for We're gonna do that for conversations in the wild church. So the point I'm saying is, but that's how strongly we feel like we feel that strongly about the spiritual
battle that we're in. So you have the whole black community, my culture right there, Like, so you got the white folks hanging him like, oh, it's his fault, he should blah blah blah, even though they know better. If you've ever seen these festivals, you know how this thing go. They can go bad. And it's not because it's a lack of security. It's just sometimes human beings get out of control or are forced out of control. There's an
expectation of behavior. It's like studio. It's like somebody fucking a studio. That's why, that's why you went. You went to man my partner Pete, Yes, so because so my point is right, so for our community to help, right when they're gonna railroad, somebody in the culture, right, I'm hearing, motherfucker's like, man, Travs sacrifice them people like niggas is really saying that bro trash sacrificed them people. I'm telling my boy, I said, we're watching Trav gets sacrificed right now.
It was a shooting that happened in New Mexico. They were shooting a film with Oh I have watched his pr do the most amazing job of disconnecting him from the actual shooting. So even today, which is pretty good. Since he was the one doing it. That's a pretty good Do you mean it's not as fault? I want those guys, it's my pr are you talking about we're talking about the set of that movie right where they gave a man a load of handgun? Yes what that's his?
That what That guy that gave him the gun has been fired from a job before doing the same ship. I don't understand how you give a loaded handgun to a man a movie set. It's like and eather twice. So if we're doing the movie g and you have to see before this call Russ, I know, yeah, I'm familiar with. We spoke about it on the Gains the Chronica. So you think about it like this, right, we're doing this movie, right, we're doing a movie. G Right, we
got fake guns. If I give Peter a gun and say okay, and it seems Peter, you have to shoot glasses because you're the crooked police officer, because you're the white dude and the crew you do only white dude the crew, so you gotta be the crooked police officer. And Peter pop that and it shoots you in the leg. G And it really gets shot to find out us two, that's my fucking fault, because it's both for y'all fault.
Because actually on every gun safety law, right, they teach you to grab a gun, check it, pull it out, look for things. They tell you that we're talking about a movie, it's still a gun. Now, I'm not I'm not now, I'm not saying. I'm not saying it's Alex Baldwin's fault for what happened on the set. Probably not licensed in any way, shape or form to handle a firearm. And I'm saying, rest in peace to Helena Hutton. I'm
not saying it's his fault. What I'm saying is just as well as it's not his fault, right, it's not Travis Scott's funt. People are put in this realm, right, you have a whole like he can't be the security fucking too. He can't like just like just like Alec Baldwin cannot be the gun safety guy. His job is to go out there, deliver the lines, make the actions
happen with the gun. You hired other people. Travis Scott's job is to go out there, deliver his performance, made people feel good, get his money and go that's both Williams set where he's talking about the drug dealer has to get the security, the salesman, and he's doing all the jobs at once. Every jobs, why you get paid the big bucks. That's when the big bucks start rolling in.
So that's all I'm saying. Still, it's like as our community, right, we're bullying him and we're helping the powers that be right, like like Pete said, the billionaires man, we're not really I don't see him being ostracized by a bunch of black people, being ostracized by the media and black people. They have been thirty clubhouses in the last thirty minutes saying Travis Scott, it's his fault and he's a safe of work. He sacrificed these people. It's like this is
a manufacturering. You know what, I'm gonna tell you a quick way we can get a million view somebody if we went on there talking about Travis Scott and the illuminatious behind this mass sacrifice and there's some bullshit those people. Man, it was an unfortunate incident that a bunch of people died, and we don't have the demonize every thing that happens. Sometimes bad ship has happened. It don't mean it's a spiritual force at work. It don't mean there's no other
nefarious activity going on. It's just a bad situation and it don't mean it and it don't mean it's not Look at what I don't do it in front of the white people. Look at my like my My model for everything in the universe is follow the money, right, So let's really really break the engineering down on this. Live Nation is a big media company. What do they do. They advertise their ship with big dollars through every other
major media outlet that you can think of. So there's big money business relationships in place with all those media companies. So what do they want to do. They want to make sure that the words Live Nation and death don't appear in the same sentence and any single one of those companies with whom they have major money relationships. So they're gonna say, if you guys want to keep getting ten million dollars a month from us each, make sure you write articles because people want to hear about it.
They want to hear about it. Make sure you tell them what you think, and you tell them that Live Nation and death are in the same sentence. Well, you know what, ge, I'm gonna tell you something. This goes seen way off base, but I'm gonna land on something real quick. This is another example of what the problem is with media though media to somebody who owns a media company, go ahead, Yeah, but but no, this is true. This is your problem. Go ahead, go ahead, problem. This
is my problem with mass media. Right with yourself, mass media. No I'm not. I'm not on blad, Keep keep kicking. Keep my own were independent black old like like my heart, like my heart. No, we got one show over there, they don't own that. We got two shows over there. They don't own either one of them. They got influenced. Go ahead, all right, so check this out. They create these narratives to when it wherever they say is the truth, and that's the way it went. They put it out
there enough times and people start believing it. If I go online and saying Peter is a m is a known rapist, if I'm going there and if I have enough no, but if I have enough people in my within my range, that lie is gonna become somewhat of a fact because people are gonna start spreading the word. Then you guarantee you you will have somebody come up and saying some broad they don't even know, Yeah, he raped me too. They're gonna make a video about it
and everything else. I'm telling you, bro, they can obst they can demonize whoever they want to at the drop of her hand, at the drop And I believe that that's exactly why I am. I have pledged my life to being the villain, the super villain. Like I remember, like it was a girl that came and did me in Pete podcast and she said it was a rumor going around that I hit I hit a woman. I was like, yeah, that's what they said. That's funny. She said that. Don't bother you, Like, is it true. I'm
of course it's not true. She said, just to bother you. I said no, because as a super villain I could beat a bit up. There's a there's next There's a theory by a lot of think tankers about how bad media publicity didn't really seem to impact Donald Trump's numbers because he was already in the muther super villain. You can't see exactly, and you can't cancel a crip either. I am a gangster rapper, Bro. If I slapped the bitch.
So what, that's what you're supposed to do. That's why we're the I'm disappointing them right now by not slapping this bitch. Yeah, God damn it. What are you just sitting there for? I just need to just walk up and slap women. Just slap shit out of him. Bit shoot somebody, that's how you do it. Did you pay for lunch today? No? Fuck, well there you and you shouldn't have it because he robbed that guy for that money.
My money is My money is no good. My money is no good because I only go to places where villains eat. There you go, That's what I do. But that's the point of being a super villain. So the point I'm saying still focused. The point I'm saying is right is we can't allow like we're gonna we're watching the mainstream, right. I won't even use the word white people to crack and I won't even say none of that.
We're watching the mainstream. Take a young brother, right who was a performer m hm, no different than any other performer, and they're making him the reason eight people die and not actually just doing the simple mathematics and just looking at the history of festivals off. They have been bought and paid for to disseminate a specific rhetoric and was to receive that all the time. The rhetoric is, you know, the tangible target, the face, the name that you recognize.
That's the guy. You better stay responsible for this because the nameless, faceless entity that doesn't exist, it's fictitious. It's a behind the scenes entity that pays you. All the fucking money you have is not to be tied to this. It's easy to point to somebody with a face and the name. It's hard to point to a corporate concept,
especially when they're giving your money. If you think about the bread he losing because this brother is being like he had a show in Saudi Arabia to Saudi Arabia that he canceled, that was gonna paying five and a half a million dollars A leged me. I would you know, and I'm pretty sure this brother is going through some ship. You just don't have an event like that happened without being bothered as a human being. It would bother me.
G if we had an event and some kids die and some people die, it would bother us, you know, it would bother us and I think this brother is being sincere with I think he is. Apologies are sincere, and I keep seeing a little things pop up. That's what I'm looking at them. I'm actually looking at my way of It's like, you know this some bull dot com makes you're gonna check that out, but only trying to dry plug on me and Pete ship. So what do you think it's? You better up there better be
some real writing. No, now I'm looking at this, um you know up to the minute news that we report on this some bull dot com and but no, seriously, on this some bull dot com. Yeah, so what's tripping me up? You went for Wayne's World. Don't even this ship right here? Man. It's crazy to me because they're saying Travis Scott didn't care. He went to a nightclub and after party right after the event. You don't know,
you don't like. The thing is what people don't understand when you're a performer, sometimes you really don't know what you don't know you do. These motherfucker's were standing on people in the crowd like there's a there's a there's a brief part of the show where Travis it was somebody who actually was like either paint fainted or pasted out or was sucked up. He actually had the ambulance come in and stop people so they could get people
guiding him. It's crazy, motherfucker's dance on the ambulance ambulances. Why they're trying to get to this motherfucker for me? So again, festivals in that order are meant to be unruly. So he didn't know he went through his whole set. Question another hypothetical being the super villain. What is the super villain's response if that, Like, if that were you, where's the conflict of the super villain and the and and the human elements you know, intersect? And I would
not kill him. I did not kill him. Y'all know what y'all get when y'all working with the low show. No, you wouldn't say that because man Off for show would say that, I'm not apologizing for ship. They even apologize for slavery and its mother fun country. I'm not apologizing for nothing. Nothing. That's the point of being a super villain. Imagine the Joker like, I'm sorry, I'm not apologizing, nigga. I'm not apologize. I told Charlotte man I had a
conversation with Charlotte Man. I said, Charlotte Mayne, listen, you're in good space. Right, you're in a good space. I said you were the villain. Now you're the anti hero. You're not the hero. You're anti hero, right, You're not a good guy. Don't ever get it sucked up, because the first time you start trying to play hero for people, feel me, they're gonna destroy you a little purpose. They're
gonna kill you again. I actually want Charlotte Mayne to turn back kind of little old Charlotte Mayne I used to love when he just pressed because not because not because now he's in the space where he's trying to be the hero at times. I think it's part of like the thing Arapian ship. You know that therapy fucked you up and kind of gives you like a certain balance, and you lose your edge. It's like somebody teaching you how to really cook, right, and you stop cooking soul
food and now you're just making like regular salmon. Like yeah, but it's it's it's a flavor about it that we love. But longest see stays the anti hero, he'll be fine. The first time he starts trying to be a real hero. It's over and that's the problem. That's where they got travit when when Trav wrote that apology, do not apologize, bro, do not apologize to America for nothing? Oh you fucking don't.
That's when you let your attorney talk. You don't say nothing if it's me, this crip white man for the talk. Because the thing we would be getting, we would be getting wheel on the phone. Your ass wouldn't be seeing sick. You would have a gag orderver they'll be talking crazy and nig We don't call me about this punk ass ship. You don't respond to nobody. My people get killed in the hood all the time. Hey, my friends got killed
the two thousand sixteen nigger. The attorney would be responding for this thing, because you go sayship like what you just said, How is it agnorant? You said eight of my friends didn't get killed. Get America apologized for slavery. No seilings glasses cribs don't supposed to do podcast. Check this out, just the low glasses long and I want you to check out my new podcast, No Ceilings on
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