Conversation with a Compulsive Gambler

paying me to go to All Star Weekend? What was you doing in South Memphis trying to trying to buy a multi family department building down there? You know what the property there is price really well, it's not I mean yeah, compared to like a large sandwich. I feel like there's a lot of good opportunities in Memphis. Have you been through that city recently? You've been in South Memphis recently? I was there probably two months ago. Okay,

they still have like abandoned houses. I would say the zip code that I'm looking at right now, I would say it's at least abandoned. Yeah, we definitely believe it. On that um My boy, cow Cow came through brilliant idiots, brilliant idiots. I'm just dealing shot a man ship. We're gonna focus, but no sailors, No sailors. Gail Peter, my man, Cow came through Cow with up it go. I'm chilling man,

I'm chilling man. I'm just it's tough when you don't have engineer doing this and you're trying to do both. So I gotta wear these stupid ass headphones. Where's the man? What's it so? King? Um? We started uh edible business? Okay, So he's up there doing all that. So he's doing all the deliveries and making the sales. King is like a a real salesman. He's like, uh, what's the boy that stole McDonald's that asshole. He's like Ray Crock. So he loves the role. He loves the concept of I

would like to call it conquest. I mean, he just loves going around different cities and states conquering the edible market or any market. That's just who he is and I had to accept it. So I'm engineering today for sure. But Memphis, the property there is kind of firing and the rap scene is burgeing it for sure. So on the great rappers coming out of Memphis. I don't want to go too crazy. Cal you like, who's your favorite rap by the Memphis? I don't know. Do you know

young Buck from Memphis? That's not bad? So I take Tennessee. So three six Mafias from Memphis. Obviously, Project Pat Yo Gotti, black youngster, I'm all black youngster fan from there, Pooh Shisty Yeah, and money bag you from there. Yo was fired. What's crazy is right? Is you know I'm gonna watch gang from Watch. I grew up in watching my whole life seven Street Watch. They have the most watched gangs there. It's like a it's like a invisible bridge from here

to Memphis. And it's a grip of gray streets. It's a grip of Bonnie Hunters. I love it. I endorsed everything they're doing. I love them, guys. I did a little pass through of this um really large. There's a lot of really huge apartment complexes that are just really like physically busted down but like super duper like hot trap spots and and uh city or county, I want to say, intervening on one of them. And yeah, it was like the streets. Clement Clementine Street was like Warren apartments.

It's like a forty unit building. Huge, looks like you can go from a movie there. It's fully abandoned as a crippentine was the I love Memphis though, like shout out to my boy kino Umies in Memphis. Uh, I love the Civil Rights Museum. We hit that. We missed the So we missed the museum and saw music that So you didn't go to Stacks. We didn't go to Stacks. Stax is like fabulous. We had one more day to do it, would have done it. Did y'all go to Elvis Shi Na. We spent a lot. We we hit

as many ribbed joints as humanly possible. Yeah, Memphis got the barbecue. We hit Memphis, Kansas City in Texas, Yeah, we we shot up. Actually, my boy came in town and we did a quick turnaround one night, run up to St. Louis and got some foot up. Lewis does have barbecue. That's funny. So Memphis Barbecue. St. Louis Barbecue, k C Barbecue in Texas barbecue and I'm gonna throw them out there. I didn't believe him until I started seeing it on TV and I had a sample my

my best friend from colleges from Carolina. I'm going to Charleston, South Carolina, just purely for barbecue. So so South Carolina got a barbecue North and South Carolina. I had in North Carolina one time. Your favorite barbecue call a lot of all those places? Have you a barbecue in those places? A little bit somewhere in Memphis. My wife brought me back one time. Memphish was it was good, she told Memphis. But she was told me that the barbecue is it's fire.

But what's weird is um, they don't put emphasis on beef, so it's like pork and so it's tough. That's how it was in Germany too, like a lot of cuisine when it comes to roasting or barbecue in this port. So it's it's tough. But I actually like Texas. I mean Jack Stacks and Casey shout out to my man traff Uh. He co owns strange music with Tech nine. So Gates is the place that all the brothers rap about for me. But jack Stacks is some fucking fire barbecue,

Like they gotta fucking wing there. It's a kid a swing or spicy or honey kiss wing bro I old Travis my life taking me to that place. Travis was like, and Travis is so ill. Right, So Travis runs strange music right with Tech nine and Tech nine. But Travis sounds like a fucking old mafia boss when you talk, He's like, hey, gee, what's going on. It's always like a perfect setup. But he's also the greatest and coolest motherfucker in the world. Man, I love that motherfucker. But

back to Memphis, um as dope. Was it a good time? Yeah, it was a good time. Uh. The initial property I went out there to grab got grabbed while I was out there, which sucks. But there's a lot there's a lot of other opportunities there. I think that the city. There's a lot of new construction starting to happen in South Memphis and like West South and river View by that big, huge Okay park over there, So I want

to get over there. I did see a spot that's the best spot for the dollar, just for what it is, over an Orange mound. Yeah, I'm I'm definitely going to grab some stuff out there. I fought it for a while. I'm gonna grab some stuff. Um the Civil Rights Museum, did you get the crazy looks black person, because every time I go and if it's white people there, I always be looking at him like this show funt. Yeah, there were some other people there that probably would have.

I was there with my boy, uh Antoine, who's just like long dreadlocks down his back and all that. So I'm there with him and we were just, you know, doing a lot of reading. There's a lot of materials one of the greatest museums in this country. And there was a couple of other couples that were kind of like going out of their way to try to i don't know, like make a man'ster kissing asks stuff and listen to me. They were smart, because when I'm there, bro,

it's a rage that fills up in me. I remember going to the room right when he got shot at so you know when you walk through the room, you know, and it was some white people standing right there reading the fucking thing and they were just taking forever and I'm looking at them like, if y'all don't move, your motherfucking asks, this is your fault. Yeah. You ever been to the Civil Rights Museum? No? I went to the Zoom in d C Wash d C. Oh, Yeah, I've

you got to check the Civil Rights cad. We talked about property before, and I remember you said you was it was a thought to get in it. Um, that's always a thought there. So I conreate generate wealth that way. Yeah. Yeah, what's the point of generating well, uh for me, for me personally or just period for me person just a big stable for the cities and stuff, just to be sable for the kids and everyone else. When you go on, you have something to think and still prosper with. It's

tough out here much with the job situation. You needs something's always working. They could generate something for you, that's true. Um. Sure, Uh what's funny is right? We we when I talked about bringing you on, right, everybody they thought I was gonna bring on a really popular rappers, Like now I'm gonna bring my man Cow because my man Cow has insight.

So Cow is He gambles tough, and I'd like to call him a compulsive gambler, but he says he isn't right but interesting the way he approaches betting, because it's pretty slick. So I'm gonna I never said this to him personally, but I listened to how he approaches and he's very wise and smart with it, so he's not betting on Hey, I like this team. He's like, no, this quarterback blah blah blah, this person was hurting this this is the third And I thought that that was

really interesting, this ship. How did you get into gambler? I'm as a kid. It'll be my mom that got me in the Gaboy, what you're doing, we don't really that's what gambler really is. Gambler could be just playing bingo. So I really got into gambling when I was about five years old. We did the Super Bowl not super Bowl pool to college football pools, and I won all the quarters one time as a little kid, I had a certain numbers and I just won the whole pool.

You know what everybody thinks about that, but that is actually the start of what's crazy. Is South sam Manuel. You know where everybody goes to. They have some of the biggest beingo games in the world, like fifteen hundred dollar bingo games, hundred dollar beingo games, thirty five hundred dollar beingo you know bingo games. When you win this kind of money, my mom and my older so obviously from my gang, it's a it's a woman. To me,

that's so Ms Jackson is the grandmother. She's the matriarch of kind of my neighborhood, if that's fair to say, outside that she's the matriarch of her family. At this time, she's the matriarch of the hundred and seventeen Street Watch crips. We all love her the death. She would take care of all of us no matter what's going on, rest herself. She was amazing woman. And her family, you know, carries on the lineage. But her daughter, my older home girl, Frankie.

She was a much older lady. She wasn't really a gangbanger, but she kind of was because both of her sons. Her oldest son is my big homie Tone. Her youngest son is my homeboy daddy. Oh. So she's like she would go in these games and they would go every fucking weekend, and she would like hit like twice a month, and I'm talking about for thousands of dollars. They would take a bus. It used to be a bus that comes to the Denny's in Lakewood that's on Artizia and

Lakewood Boulevard. A bus would come right there between the Denny's and the doughnut shop. And she got my mom into it and they would take this bus just to not have to drive to say Manuel to play bingo all day for weekends. That ship crazy. Well, you know the I don't know if it's a Catholic church or just rig of churches. Had a Bengal night, remember the Inglewood. I should drive by there when I was leaving a race track and I'd be like, man, this is more

crossed at the night. But people don't look at that. Back then. It's gambling. But that's the when they go every week at the same time every week and they came miss a week. This gabbling. I mean that was gabbling. Damn, that's crazy. What do you gamble at all? Pete? Yeah, I finally started getting into sports gambling the last couple of hours wanted to. And it's never really got around it doing it. And I kind of look at it the way he does like to me, it's a very

it's it's a strategic investment. It's not a gamble. I don't need to place the bet. If the if it makes sense to place the bet all places. So I ran the table over the last football season, made a handful of best one a few grand, but I showed up with an intent to bet A couple of times walked out. I didn't see anything I liked. When I place tom, I one them there you go. Um, have you had to choose something that was your favorite thing to gamble on? Like? Is it a sports or is

it a game? I only bet sports. I have the worst luck on Earth. I mean like ship like we Man from Why from Wild Boys and Ship could could beat Michael Jordan's one on one on to pulled Hamstring if I put money down. It's just things don't work out in my favor. Uh, cow, Like, what's your favorite ship to gamble on? My favorite thing would probably be horse racing because that's what I grew up on and

I never understood that. Because you like so My still Still, who produces so Triple, is the producer of this podcast. Um Still is my manager, but he's the one outside of Charlotte Magne that has been trying to get me in the podcast and for years still is my older brothers, my smart guy. You feel me like. One of the first people to embrace me took me on a tour around the rest of the count around the rest of

the world. Feebly exposed me to how to truly you know, make a living in hip hop as far as an independent artist even being signed. So I have all that to say his pops. So I'm on the promo run and I'm just doing radio stations. I stayed at his pops house, uh in in Ohio. It's and near Cleveland. It's called Ravenna. And um he was a horse race guy, and I and and a few horse raised guys. I know, I'm like, bro, how the fund do you bet on horse racing? It's a different horse almost every race. It's

not like you go to the track. It's like betting on the Lakers. You know, you bet on the Lakers consistently. It's not like you know a horse that showed horse You're like, Okay, anytime this motherfucker race, I'm gonna be there to bet on him. Okay. So you do have a favorite horse. I wanted to have a favorite horse. And you can watch your horse lead up to the derby and you can keep betting, keep betting, and then when here's the derby, you know that's your horse. You've

been watching them like ragonlears, season playoffs, championships. I look at horse horses like regularly I look at the athletes just like a basketball player, just like a baseball players. So who your horses? The same way? So like if if Ramon, you know you know what Ramon is, right? If Ramon, I don't say his name because he usually brings on the level Ramon right? When when you you know Ramon? Who is Ramon? For you? When it comes to horse, um, who is the Holy Bull? It was

a horse called Holy Bull one time. So I'm back, way sure, sure, back you can have a new you can have a new horse. Okay, So who is your horse? Who is your all time favorite horse? What everybody's gonna say Sea Biscuit because you know he had the movie and it was a little horse that beat the odds. So Sea Biscuits, that was a real horse, like Secretary Secretary, Those are like horses, you know, MS Dollar, that's the Michael Jordans of course. Is the first triple crown? Was

a pharaoh something like that? Well I'm not I'm a gambler, So those things about three years ago, didn't this It wasn't the first triple crown winner. And like forever pharaoh. So you so you never even wanted to ride a horse? No, I like horse back right, yes, but I don't care nothing about that. But horse a horse, well, I want to own a horse. No, if I had a farm, that was that's my next like purchase I want in this area I live in, to buy me a farm. If I had a farm, of course, a horse will

be one of my major purchases at that time. But it's just as flat. I want to own a horse. No, I don't think I was no true designers to get in on, like grabbing a quarter horse to look like for the Alamedo circuit or something I'd like to lease. So I would like to get into a group of people who who would like, Okay, you can put this much money in and you'll be part owner or something like that, and then once that horse sailor ever, we're

gonna do another one like that. I like stuff like that, But flint out on the horse, No, because I don't look at horse racing that's being legit. Which game do you have the worst luck in the worst look as in gambling or since you've been gambling, since I've been gotten. My worst luck will probably be in college basketball, which I love college basketball, but only bet on college basketball, like in a couple of weeks March Madness. That's the

only time I've been on college basketball. That's my worst look because I don't follow it because I'm too busy watching horse racing. Two beats watching the NBA, and I love I love the bet. Now my new bettest baseball to me. Baseball is the best bet ever to me because it's only Um, some teams are better than other teams. You have to watch what picture they're gonna have picture that day. Um, Women's like this betting, it's all rigged to fix anyway. People are ringing in fixed. Yeah, it's

not it's not real. So you I thought, that's why I bet for fun, which a lot of people look at me. So you gamble too much? You addicted to gamble. No, this is just fun for me because I know that the outcome is not really legit. It's always something. Um, there's a variable in there that those all come off that you don't know about. Like in horse racing, you don't know if a horse is sick or not. You don't know what that trainer plan is for that horse

going forward. So you wonder why one horse would beat another horse that it shouldn't have beat. But can't you get like insights if you was really into it, Yeah you could, but I don't. I don't. I don't do it that way. I do it by I let the people do that, right, So the odds board tell me what the people are thinking. So what I do is I look at the odds and if I see a horse that was a class a horse, no one should beat them at all. Right, And you're one to yourself,

how can this horse lose this race? And then when a horse lose the race, you're wondering what happened because it's that variable in there that you don't know about what they're preparing the horse, the horse for the rowing down the line, or if the training you are, the owners even want to win that race. But as a gabbler, you don't know that. And that's what That's why I say it's only for fun and I'm not addicted to

it anything. It's just a fun hobby I have, and I have fun with it because they're that variable in there will always mess you up. It's like it's like college football. If a college football team won't score at the end of the game at the one yard line and just take a knee for four downs. That's not legit to me. You're messing with the with the score or the game. If you go down there and give the one yard line and it's the first thing goal and you're gonna score the football, you just take a

knee all four downs. That messes with the with the game to me as a gabbler. And when I see that, I have to realize that team won't make the spread. You think, so you think somebody's on the team is involved. No, I think bigger than bigger than the team. But yeah, I think that's you think something, But I think bigger than the team. I think bigger than that. I think it's because they're they're gonna let you gamble on sports, gamble in different cities now where it's not like you

have to go over to Vegas anymore. For my two more years of being here in California, I said, with that, the corruption of it is there. So knowing that the corruption is there, you have to bet, according to me, So why do you think people think you're addicted to it at that point? Because that they don't undamn ever asked me why I gamble? What I gamble on and how I gamble? If you never ask me those questions. You don't see that gamble every day, But you know

nothing about my strategy, nothing that I'm doing. You don't know nothing. I feel like this if I bet small to win big, so I bet like a parlay with multiple teams on there, but I have a team I think gonna absolutely win, right, I bet to win big, but with a small. So you're in the gambling. You're not even batting at that point about gambling, I'm betting.

What I like about the word it gets right. It's something that you kind of This is not truly the definition, but the way I look at it is betting is when you're like, you feel like someone's going to win, right, and you put money down. I think gambling is when you're playing with the odds. You get what I'm saying, like when the odds, like when I seen gamblings, when you put money down. Betting is when you with the odds that mightn't met at that one without the other.

That's how I look at it. If you gambling, if you're betting your gamble, that's how I look at together. But that have have This is the real Nigga hour. Even though Peters there Peter's real nigga, but he's just white. Um. Have you ever fucked off some money? You shouldn't have sucked off gambling, that's an honest question. So but at that point then you don't think, but you really felt that team was gonna win, that's why. Or still somebody going when you put your bed down there, who's gonna

bet on? Somebody think gonna lose? That's how I if you bet to lose, you shouldn't be gambling at all. You should just keep it in in your pocket and go do something else. I don't bet to lose. I bet odds right, So the odds tell you who's gonna win. I'm gonna tell like in horse racing, the odds were too recently. Like, I'll tell you that that big favorite right one to nine, the lowest odds you can happen. Right they get to the gate, his eyes go up

to one. That's an even money bed. Now what that told me was he's not gonna win because his own people, the trainers are the the cap took their money off the horse. So what that told me was, they're not gonna let that horse win today. And guess what happened. That horse didn't win. So the odds board, I don't even have to know the name of the horse. I can just look at the odds and keep watching the odds from when they first put them on the board until the end, and eight times out of ten, I

can tell you who's gonna win. It don't happen all the time, but I can pick just off the odds

and tell you if that's gonna win. If I watched it from the beginning, that that would be almost kind of like there's certain tells and like the stock market as far as like after hours trading or if you see a certain percentage of shorts on something that you can kind of get into all right, the the insider in industry, players, the institutions have information that's leading them to believe that this is gonna go in one way. And that's a very similar approach that he takes to that.

Um would you think would you call the stock market gambling? Not in the same sense, No, because if you lose a bet. If I bet a thousand dollars on anything in Las Vegas and lose it, the instant the outcome happens, I lose the whole thousand. In the stock market you can put money in. I put a thousand dollars on, but it's rare that it's gonna go to zero and

it's not gonna happen like that. You know, you can say, all right, I can afford to lose x. Holy sh it, it's walked all the way down to seven hundred from a thousand. Jesus Christ. Let's cut and run and you can walk out with seven hundred dollars. So let me ask you a question. Do y'all think it's lazy like

the stock market? I guess we could kind of talk about stock marketing and gambling both, whether it's horse racing that Like you do the work before, right, you're kind of trying to figure out exactly what's gonna happen because you're gauging it off of some kind of information, right, you're gauging it all off some kind of information, and you put your money in because you want the money to make money. Of course, um, depending on that, is

that lazy? No? Not in anyway, it's it's it's lazy not to it's lazy not to h if you're putting the time and energy and you're investing your human capital and putting your money to work like. You don't want your money to be lazy, Like right now, I got a lot of unemployed, lazy ass money, So I'm trying to buy a property that can give me a return

on and put that money to work. The amount of time I just spend an entire week money effort, what ever else a month during research over there, I could have grabbed a part time job dicking around at the gas station to get pigeon ship money with those hours. I'm trying to take those hours and put that money to work. That's not lazy nig his wife for real, pete um. When it comes to gambling, my thing is

three dice. I love four or five six um, But she stacked the game somewhat somewhat because I like gambling against everybody. You're the type of guy who loses ten grand on the dice game and a back alley and just knock off the winner and walk off with the money. You know, I'm not a bad loser. What's funny is my homies cheated me before my my younger homies cheated me. Right, I wasn't paying attention in the game because I was the guys who were on the T shirts would never

do that to me. Hoies man, I love nigga, but they was using some teas on me right. They were sticking the dice and I wanted to do something to them. But I thought about it like it was a little bit of money, and I figured how I was gonna get every dime back out of each one of them. They don't know that I have a plan to get each dime back out of all of them. But the thing is they're not and and the thing is I'm

going to get every dime. That's how I think. Like, if you're my friend and I can't like harm you, I'm going to get every dime. I'm going to make you feel me getting paused every dime back out of you for whatever you start from me. That's my partners though. Um, but I like three dice. Um. Boxing is my thing. I bet on boxing. I'm really into it. I'm into the styles clash. Uh. I've hit some pretty big bets.

Lost something, but I don't know what was the what was the most pro left Thick lost not only from a dollar standpoint, but from a high profile fight standpoint and also win on the flip side. The biggest prolific wind Okay, so lost. Who did I bet on that lost the fight? And it was like, damn, I couldn't believe they lost the fight. Uh So, most of the time I know when someone's going to lose, like I know, but I'll be betting just to kind of get these odds.

So I'll bet my friends like three timehawks stakes to one, even though I know my guy has the greater chance of losing. You know, that's pretty much what it is. But if I had to say my greatest loss, shit, my greatest lost. Somebody stopped me from losing. My boy Salad stopped me from losing a thousand dollars because I was gonna bet on Cannello against Floyd m So he stopped me from losing that because I was like, oh, he was a young stud. But my boy Brian Sallis

made a lot of sense. He was like, bro, he boxes nobody's don't have box Floyd. He was right, it didn't matter his size, he was bigger, he was younger, fresher. If you're gonna box Floyd, you're gonna lose. I mean, the guys that have pushed him are guys who muscle

him around. Get grimy for me, they just take what they can, and Canello was a pure boxer still, So I'm thinking, if I had to say I lost money on the biggest fight, I lost money, Uh, ship, like you had money on the littlest over rock mind and got taken to the cleaners. No, because I wasn't really betting on boxing. Man. Oh take that back, Oscar and fucking finish Trindo. That I lost three dollars in that fight. That was my biggest loss that made money. I always knew.

I always knew, Lena, I'm the hardest person on Tyson breathing in Memphis because that pyramid where they did the fight is now a bass pro shops. Man, how did you come from that? Um? So it would have to be Oscar versus Trinidad, and I thought I wanted to fight.

Oh yeah, that's the worst fight I ever lost. That's the worst fight I ever lost, because I honestly just thought Oscar was gonna win the fight, even when he got off the gas and started, you know, like letting Phelix get back in the fire, like, oh, we already got seven eight rounds in the bag. And when they called Phoenix the winner, that fight hurt me. Um. My greatest win is about three fights there by equal, and

they're equal for different reasons. Um Selito versus Lomachenko. It was Loma Chanco second fight, and they would fighting for a title. Loma Chenco was this Vasilli Loma Chanco is. It's super uh idolized and superior amateur fighter that's turning pro and he's fighting for a world title on his

second fight. That's how great he is as a profession. Yeah, he's Ukrainian, so he's a super ill amateur double gold medalist like four hundred and some fights, probably like four hundred and eight or some ship either won all these fights. And he's fighting against Orlando Solito, who is this super rugged Mexican fighter who takes anything. And I had bet

on the fight in Vegas. The odds were like, I think six to one or something, and I put down probably like five bucks and then friends I bet right, So I killed with that one. But I always felt a leader would win because when you're an amateur, you know, you could be a fantastic amateur, but when you get into the pros, the pros can be rugged. It could be like hit your arm, hit your you know, head butt you. It's just a thousand things to make the fight rough. It's a real fight that amateur you know,

exhibition is different, it's controlled, it's different. Professional fight is will And I felt like at your second fight, this is a bad fight. Now. I feel was a regular boxer for that championship belt. But Salito is a rugged fighter and he won that fight. And I told everybody the second fight is Tyson Fury Vladim Mclisko. I saw Tyson Fury probably at fight fourteen and been following the whole time. Um, he gave me these crazy Muhammad al Levi's as a gypsy like he has. He's a super

proficient fighter. He understands boxing. He researches that he has the super gifts, ridiculous reach, six nine, very agile. You know it's a video floating on YouTube because it's just bouncing around the living room. Feel me like shadow boxing and never hit a piece of furniture without ever looking down. He says, an ability to burn calories like no human

that has ever breathed oxygen on this earth ever. So this is a six ft nine, two hundred seventy two eighty pound man cow and he's bouncing around his neigble room shadow boxing, and he never touches a piece of furniture so that the coordination like he looks like a little sloppy, but his coordination is like superior. And I bet Top, I bet Vegas, I bet a couple of harmonies. I killed on that one because I always knew Vlad.

I always knew Lad needed the jab. Entyson Fury was gonna take the jab away, and Lad wouldn't have knew how to. He's used his jabs whole career, you know, sixty seventy fights, and you got a guy that's gonna take away your jab because he's he's fast as he's faster than you, he's longer than you are, he's taller than you, and he's he's more of an athlete. So he's going to take away your jab. But that's what Tyson, that's what great boxes do. They take away yo emoose weapon.

So he took it away and he wanted to fight, and I knew that was gonna happen. And the Tyson Fury Deontay Wilder the last one. I told everybody I was watching that cow house and I probably had about three thousand dollars with everybody, And I told them Deontay Wilder will never knocked Tyson Fury down again. They think about that was crazy Fury in that fight, right, But great boxers get better, they remember things, they change because

it's like Joe Fraser and mohammedd Ill leave. The first fight, Joe Frasier was great, but second third fight, second fighter was fun up and the third fight got better. But Mohammed Ali was never You was never gonna surprise him anymore. And that's how Tyson Fury is. He's such a great boxing you won't surprise him. You just have to up your will. Like like Frasier then the third fight, though he lost, he upped his will. So I imagine when Deonte and Fury fight again, Fury, I mean, Wilder will

up his will. But you can't surprise a great boxing. He's gonna be ready for everything you're gonna do. So even though it's gonna be a great fight, it's a fight where the smarter box is gonna come out. So those are the three Those are the three fights. Those are the four fights that kind of make up my gamining career. With boxing. Everything else I've made, I made money but or lost money. But it really was just fun.

I wouldn't even give him funk. I just like putting pressure on other people, Like if you think somebody's gonna win and it's like a blowout, like I'll just bet you five to one, four hour a day control. You're just like trolling people. So you give a fighter one odds to a regular person, Yeah, okay, So so if I know something, I'll give you fight one. Remember I gave y'all no, no, I gave e. I gave bone

and moved three to one. You know what happened was I bet them that the Clippers would beat the Lakers every game last year. No, it wasn't. I'm gonna tell you why I made the bet. And it's a tough bet because it's four games. But the team that started the season for the Clippers was the perfect combination to deal with the Lakers. But the first two games it was fine. They made trades in the off season, they changed their rosters, and then they started giving somebody the

Morris brother thirty minutes. And he is the worst kind of defender Between Lebron and a d it's a different kind of defense that you need to have. And they played this man thirty minutes. So he's playing thirty minutes and he can't Guardy the Guy, and he's the first game that they lost was was the third game. He gave him zero points in twenty nine minutes. The second game he gave him two points in twenty nine minutes and thirty two minutes, and he can't Guardy the guy.

So that through my whole better and it was it looked it was pretty sweet. Well, after going to work for him, it was working. It it didn't work right the third game. It was a great bet, fantastic, But I didn't take that to account the Clippers doing something stupid. Why would you not take that into account given the Clippers I have. That's my mistake. That's why I made my mistake. See, my mistake is of human behavioral bets,

your considerations. You gotta make come backs. And and what's crazy is right, They've changed front offices, they changed coaches, and they still do a Clipper type ship. It's like it's a fucking heck on the fucking Clippers. The Clippers are probably the worst betting team in the history of Los Angeles, maybe them and the writers. No, don't bring the ters up. The writers too. I mean, ain't they're a Vegas team. Now they're gonna win. Now, I don't

know they're gonna win within three years. You want to make it back. I don't beat people. That's why I was it was it was weird that you said I was addicted to gambling, right, I not say you were addicted to gambling. You said, I'll do what gamble too much? You said, I said, you're a compulsive gambler, And well, what are the character risk of a compostal gambler on anything? Right? But anything? And everything? That means when you when you get the urge, you can't stop yourself. But they don't

mean what you don't bet on anything. You have to look at that. But that's not the point. Like an alcoholic, don't mean your drink anything. But there's risk of alcoholic A lot of times they do drink anything. I know some acoholics that you mix a bunch of drinks in one big old cup. Here'll go ahead and drink that just because it's alcohol in it. Yeah, I'm not I'm not saying that it's impossible. I'm saying that is not the only thing that could make a like an alcoholic.

There's different between the guy who can't stop himself, a guy who can't stop, and the guy who can't stop himself. You know, like you can't just you can stop. You can You're not where. I'm not gambling. I don't know what to do with myself. But when you want to go out and lay the else bets down on Friday, come Heller Hawwater, you're gonna do it. I agree with that. Yeah, but that's not compostal though, because compostal would have been

I thought for sure. I was positive. I thought no one could tell me no different as the Kansas City Chiefs wasn't gonna win. I went through everything. I said this this is an easy bet, remember, and I did not bet because I felt that time, because I felt that something is not right with the game. It's like in horse race when I feel that wolve rigg. I'm not saying it was rig I'm saying that the Chiefs quarterback did something and played the way I have never

seen him play. Because I was I told you one day, I said, the quarterback can throw the ball full work going backwards. That was the key when he wouldn't get sacked so much because he could be backpedaling and make an accurate throw down the field. In that game, when he backpedaled, he never really released the ball. He turned again and got sacked, and he was doing stuff that

I saw, I've never seen him do before. So now my saying the game was rigged that he played, uh he maybe maybe he might have been ill or something was wrong with him. He didn't play the game. How he always plays the guest. I won the second half. I only bet second half spread and really really really big football games. That's all I do. But like in that game, he had the worst protection he's probably had

for any single game in his career. And the difference between yeah, that happening that point, that's not that's what I was saying. He to me, It's like it was really the tale of two offensive lines. Yeah, well, well I would to say that. I say it's Uni of office line. In the defense, they had a strategy to take away one guy by triple team. Though you're trying to tell me that Kansas City couldn't adjust to that. It was called that. You told me it was an

adjustment made that Keenness City didn't adjust to. But if they're if they're power, if there's power, rushing you and you were running quarterback and get out the pocket. When that pocket break, go to the left and go up up the field. You don't go backwards, you go up the field. He did run back too many times for me to believe that was legit. That difference was like in that game, their edges were getting off so fast. Where it's like an the post you get a little

bit more time. They were getting off so fast that he didn't have enough time for the receivers to even get open to go parallel. But that was that was an errors not being there. But that's my point. Like to me, I'm not a football guy at all, but it seemed like watching that game, it was the tell of two offensive lines. I was prepared to walk away without doing a bet at halftime. I try to not be a football guy. That bet is a cigar fishing out a magazine bet. That's why I take the bet.

It's an eight plus percent break in one way with a tell. The team that wins the overall spread eight plus percent of the time. The Super Bowl also covered the second half spread, So the team that at halftime looks like they're poised to cover bet on that to cover the second half spread, you're gonna get eighty plus percent turn out in your favor. I was going to walk away from the bed and at the last and when they put the number up at seven and a half,

I held it. And now because if it was gonna be three and a half, I wasn't gonna place the bet. All right, cal So you feel that that makes you not a composting gamblet No, you can't call me a compostal gambler unless you understand how I gamble, why I gamble, and what I gamble on. I just know that I gamble every day and just say, man, you gamble too much. Because I didn't say you gamble too much. Gamble. Look, I say you're a compulsive gap and not no, not

at all. Have you ever heard of me been a person? I don't think that means like no, No, I know alcoholics that never drank turkey. No, they drink liquor. But I'm telling you, everybody's gambling with each other saying, oh I want I'll bet you this. I think to myself, I know. Let's say I know baseball. I always tell you that I know baseball. I know who gonna wins.

I've been winning that baseball. But if a person came to me and said, well, I bet your Dodgers not gonna win, I won't bet them because I don't bet people. That doesn't mean that that means I can control what I gabble on. That's why I'm telling you I can control how I gabble, where I gabble and when. Are you're saying somebody's not an alcoholic because they refuse certain

types of liquor. No, I'm saying that someone's not an alcoholic when they could control when the drinking, when not to drink, you know, not not win to drinking, when not to drink, what they drink, when to drink, when not to drink. And I'll give you what that. But it's also with a drink because I want to stop drinking once they started. M hm. You start gamble to the end for fun? No, I want to act your question. No. But do I gamble to the end for fun when

I go to Vegas? Yes, because that's my fun time in Vegas. I don't care if I'm win to lose. I'm just having fun because I don't believe anything that Vegas is real. I think it's all rigged. So you're just donating. You're pretty much having fun. It's like, um, I look at it like the trip club. If I'm gonna put money on the table, there better be a naked woman up there because I'm not getting it back. You just having fun so Vegas. I'm just having fun.

So if I win, fine, But if I don't. What's the fastest you ever lost all your money when you went to Vegas? Why you're trying to know something that somebody told you? But I'm not, honestly, I just want all my money. Just wasn't all Honestly, I'm not saying budget for the day. No, that's he's trying to say something you know about that. I have no idea what you're talking happens. That's I'm gonna tell you why I've

never I don't know what you're talking about. Honestly, honestly, it's not a gambling some guy has no poker face in It's no fair question. But how is it? Not a fair question? Not a fair question? Let me ask you a question. This is years ago. You know you just have these bus trips where you go to Vegas on the bus just for the day and come back. So you know, I love. I've never heard the story on Olivia on Olivia, so you didn't hear the whole story. But you know what happened to me. I mean, because

I'm sure this happened, what happened in my life. I swear on my life. I have no idea what you're talking about. Cow since I've known you twice, you've lost your money fast, so I don't. I'm asking when is the fastest you ever lost your money? Could the fastes will be that? See, that's not a good answer you guys either, because I don't always you have all the information. I'm saying twice right so that I ain't already hit

me the second time. I don't like to let people know exactly how much I win, or how much I bet, or if I have any money left. I kind of like, so you just lie. I lie on that a lot because I'm married, so I have to lie. I have to. That was the most prolific thing. I have to lie about that, because if I want to I'm married, I have to lie on that. I have to lie about that.

But the fast find I lost money was like one of those bus trips um you can take you three am and they were making that your limit for the day. Aufter a t M and I went to the crap table put three hundred dollars down. I lost it on one role that was like one like two minutes, three minutes. Now I have no more money, So I go to the A t M and they say, you can't get no more money. Now I do remember part of this story,

but this is not what I was thinking about. I didn't know you went and lost in one I don't know that one role that I'm talking about. That's different. Right If you go to the a TM and you bet that's that's that's not But I'm asking you, what's what's the fastest you ever went to Vegas? Like, I'm gonna gonna have fun and gavel and the fastest you ever lost? I was gonna be there four days. I'm gonna lost all my money in one day. One time in which game was craps. See what how how are

you betting in craps? Well, I bet craps. I'm not a successful with craps because I bet this. I bet I'm gonna think of the number that's gonna roll on the dice, and that's what I did. So like you laugh, at that. But it works if we went to a crap table right now and the old guys shooting dice, So I look at the person that's shooting, older gentleman

shoot the dice. They rolled six and eight most of the time, so I'm guessing when it's gonna be a six or you know why a roll six and eight most of the time, because those are the numbers that you can roll the most besides just making sure. But but they roll six old people. I was like, well do yeah, because it's just the way I look at it. When you get older gentlemen there. I don't know what it is. I don't know if it's the luck or the way they throw the dice, but they can roll

for a while. So I'm looking at the things. As weird as that sound, I know what you're talked about. It seems like old people be on the whatever and they dice down. They just fossil out there, and they rolled a lot of six and eggs. So I'm guessing four to five one, um, three, three, and I've been um just throwing money off for that. So you're betting on single rolls, single rolls, Yeah, that's what's the eyes on.

Single rolls one who people don't know about this bed, so I'll see people in my bed is hard points, hard ways. I've been on three threes, four fours all day, you know, I mean because they paid it ten to one. But you don't lose until somebody craps out or they hit that point on the dice. So you're betting. So that's that we have it. That's the difference between betting

and gabbling. That's betting. I'm gabbling when I'm telling you four to on the hop one role one role, it's gonna be four too for fourteen and one fourteen the ones you get for that on that down. Philosophy of that is that is the best bet, and I hit that bet. Now I want to have a lot of money on the bed. That's the problem. I always hit that bed when I have ten dollars where I put out third. But it's to me, it's the best bet

when you hit it because it pays like a horse race. Yeah, but you can bet on six six and it paes thirty one. Yeah, you couldn't do that. How many times can you hit six six? You need it one way? You and how had the person I'm told you that shooting hits roll those numbers, so they roll six all the time. So when you bet, and do you bet four to three, three, five, three four, four and two six at one time? No, I do three on them. I'll tell them about three way eight. That's the three

ways eight can come. So I'll give them three hundred dollars because because to me, what will make sense on that bed is if you're playing right around sixty bucks. If it's all fourteen and one right, and you're right. If I'm betting, I'm betting four, two, three, three, one five, right, those are the three ways you can hit it on six, and then on the eight, I'm betting two four. Excuse me, you know eight is to six, three five four four That's how I'll bet. So that means every time you shoot,

you you should be playing sixty dollars. Right. The math in me, I'm just saying, let's say you paying ten dollars because it play fourteen the one right. If you're playing ten dollars, right, that's sixty dollars every bet, right, So each time you roll the dice, I would bet that because you get two chances to get your money back. And you're talking about someone who always thow six and eight yea. So if somebody goes on the road constantly hitting that, you know every time they hit you, you're

you're you're, you're getting eighty dollars. Have you ever seen six and eight on on someone rolling they hit like five times? Sure, I've seen it. I've seen the person hits six and eight five times, But that I would have six or three way sixth the same time. That's what I'm said, right, That's not that's what I see. This is a gambler in The gambler in me says this because because because the are that's that's that's the compulsive, that's that's a skill with me, that's the composer. That's

a skills composal me. Skilling something I can't stop myself from doing it right. Skilled is something you do built off repetition. You can't skillfully call the dice. I can't know you can make an estimate of the dice the data is wrong. Like the issue with the with CRAPS is like let's say if it pays out fourteen to one the occurrence statistically, it's not going to be one to four teen because the house is gonna stack it and off, I won the sixteen, and they're gonna do

one to fourteen so that they always average out of victory. Sure, yeah, I agree with that. So that's that's that's my issue with craps. So wait a minute. You skillfully are going to be able to call the dice. I believe. So I've done it, not with the hundred on there. I did with the hundred on there twice in my life, but not with the hundred, but I could do it with like like a Sunday finer bed. People are looking, man, I'm saying I was doing it so easily that rescipees

to her. She passed away recently she saw me doing it. She said, what better you doing? I said, I'm called hi, the dunk called the number I want. She started doing on it and start winning. She was like, thank you for telling me how to do that. And she was just doing it. It's called a number that she was thinking that might the dice might roll on and she was making money. To me, it's skilled because I'm I'm looking at the perfect everyone. Can you don't pick us

a random. You watch the game and as we go around the table, I'm looking at people who like if I see a young guy going to the table. I've been against them because they throw the dice either too fast, too hard, or they do something something weird. Don't want the dice, so I always do the dog the don't A lot of times it works that way. So you say it's not a skill because you might can't understand it, because you can't do it understand only a few people

have that skill. My definition of what skill is, it's not a skill. Huh. By definition, it's not what I think of skilled. By definition, it's not a skill. It's just something that's not that you can understand because you can't do it. I didn't say you can't understand it because you can't do it and hit the bank shot. Young guys don't. It's different. That's you practice. You can't practice calling the dice, and the guy can practice throwing the dice. I agree, and that's why I agree with him.

With old heads, I can't practice. I'm watching the table. I'm watching this. I'm watching it go around, and I'm watching when it get to this guy, he throws a lot of six and eggs. I'm looking for the person on the table that throws a lot of six and looking for the week. I'm looking for that person or the strong stucker on the field. I'm looking for the six and eight person. And I believe or not all it's a person's on the table who they do it in one role. They could they could throw six like

four times. I see why craps is your worst game. I say, this was my worst guy. I want to be participating, But my best game is horse racing. What's the most you ever run? With horse racing? And horse racing? This is why I love horse racing. I bet ten dollars ten dollars, and that's why people get like you said, addicted. I wouldn't say that, but that is like and it

wasn't hard. It was because the last leg of the of the Breeder's Cup race, I've been watching this horse and I'm like, why is this horse odd so high? So I singled that horse and that horse was eighty to one. And there's a guy who had signed the ticket from me or whatever he's every time he sees me, he says, remember that time you want that horse. I actually want more that picked four paid somebody else signed

a ticket because I was that's a different different things. Well, you don't want to be a lyable for the tax situation. So the other guy was laughing off of the TAXI I don't want he was, I don't. I didn't care how much I get my thousand. But he got the tax credit too because they took taxes out of him so he could he made a nice little thing. I was happy with just winning with I didn't just want to pick four, but I also had the horse too, so I actually won more than twenty five though to

pick four pay? How often do you play the lottery? We should be like as in the lottery lottery, the California anything anything that holds up the line at seven eleven because get the ship. What's the most you ever won at the lottery? The most I want the lottery is you're talking about scratchers? Are you talking about anything? Well, we'll scratcher. I won so I had a scratcher one day. Um, that would be the most in scratches in one lump. Scratches.

People win scratches, Yeah, I know, somebody wins all the time. What's the most you ever won with lottery? Daidy three? Which that's the game I played the most? One day? I had had my number ten times and a number hit and I had all I think it paid. Um, I can't remember what whether it paid, but I had a ten times, had two tickets of it. I had ten times I hit that number on a day three I can't remember, it's been so long. I very rarely hit any big numbers with that, but I do hit

the dirty three. I can win like two hundred, three hundred, four hundred stuff like that. So I sold a dollar bet. So. Um, that's crazy when you think about where numbers came from, and then they used to arrest people for numbers and now they just run their own game. California, some bus shit everywhere is doing a lottery though. But I'm just saying, when you think about it, they put people in jail for running numbers, and then they was like, this is

a game we like. Well that's what everything. They put people in jail for liquor, remember probition down some marijuana. Now, so we we evolved, so and the things. That's why I like about gambling, But are we involving that it's something that's legally way to increase some money that you want to invest in. It's legal, That's why I like. So you call gambling and investment. I like, I like the lot of the lottery is a discretionary donation to

the out of control public school teachers pension fund. Yeah, they're not don't have the balls or the political cloud to come out and say we're gonna add four points to the state income tax or light their hair on fire and move out. So they said we'll do is We'll create this system where if you want to go throw your money into this thing for fun, you can just go ahead and fund the teachers for fun, create

or steal mm hmm. They're not stealing anything. I've never I've never seen a person from the state of California walk up and hist somebody for lottery ticket money. No, no, I'm saying. We said, they're creating the lottery, like, steal this idea from people, and then the people, Yeah, people need people. We put pritty was like, oh what we could do this better? Oh yeah, fund the teachers. That's funny. So you still don't think you're a composited gambler. I'm

absolutely not a comple gabble for fun. It's entertaining. Do people smoke crack for fun if that's what they choose to do. I don't think people smoke crack to get ahead. I think that there are a lot of people who are gamblers hardcore who think this is my ticket to whatever it is. But he doesn't think that. That's where he's tried to tempt me to draw the line. That's what I'm saying. So if he's doing it for fun, it's recreation. He's not trying to get ahead. That would

kind of make him a composial gambler. No, because compostal me, I can't stop doing it, do anything to do it. How long have you been gambling my whole life? What's the longest you've gone without gambling in the last five honestly the longest? Like are you just say compostals? Like how explaining to youse? Like composal? Like I can't stop it. I just told you I love the kind of city chiefs I gabble every day. If I told you I did not bet on that, that shows you right there

there is no amount of compostal gabbler. So if somebody doesn't smoke one rock one time, they're not a crackhead. They passed up on these rocks. Like I don't know about craig or crackheads. I know about gambling. Let's say an alcoholic. If an alcoholic passes up on the beer, I'm not an alcoholic, so I can't. I can't tell you anything about that. Car asked me something about what I do, and I can ask you a question. I'm

giving you hypothetical because I don't do that. Look, I do that all right, when like when I was younger, and I drank a ton like a like like Hall of Fame numbers. I didn't need to drink all the time, but when it was time to drink, it was not going to be stopped. Did you consider yourself he was an alcoholic, was you? It was close, It was very close. It's something wrong in the African college, it probably would have been a real problem. Is it something wrong with

being a compulsive gambler? Yes, so that could be why you maybe would denied