Conversation with a Catholic Priest

at a grocery store. I won't disclose location. Um, I'm trying to find a parking spot, but we're trying to part closer to the front of the store. It's a couple of parking spaces. It's one specifically, somebody pulled out. I'm waiting on it. So as I'm getting ready to turn, as the person is leaving the parkner space, a dude you know, comes and zooms in. It just takes it facts in parks. I know he sees me waiting on

the parking spot. He got out, kind of looked but act like he didn't see me, like he didn't look my way. But I know he's seen me like I've seen when he looked at me. But he decided that this was going to be his parking space. So I was like, all right, cool. I pulled back around and got a space in the back. I'm walking. The two cars next to him leave like like god, they just leave.

So I go back to my car. I happened to have some gas, right, I think it was for my dirt body from my four stroke, so I go grab the gas. I have a lighter. I poured his like window was open a little bit. So I poured the gas in this car, right, napkin, light it up, drop it in and set the inside of his corn fire and going the grocery store cos I of it. I never was mad. I never was upset. He just needed

to know that you should respect people. Even when I come out the grocery store, he doesn't come out the grocery store. People are starting to run out because they know this car is on fire. I get what I needed, which was at the front of the store, and I leave. That man came out to his whole interior burnt just from being an assho. I never got mad. I was never upset. I take that back. I was offended, but

it wasn't punished me like I wasn't trying to. He needed to know that you should have to respect other human beings. Yeah, but how is that possible? You're not offended and uh, you're still did such an act. He's acting on behalf of society. How does society judge those actions? Because society is based off of order, and if people start to erode the order of society, then somebody who's

more emotional is going to come to bandon order. And it's the same way, like the same way you see me, like like rail road rage is the asshole when the lanes are merged and everyone gets in. In Orange County, it's a conservative county. I'm glad you brought that up, and let me say something to you about that. So right now is a little boy to get killed in Orange County. Boy a roll rade and did like a

road rage. Oh that was road rage. That road raged, right, And they talked about it, but they talked about it in this very minute fashion. Oh it's a six year old boy that got killed. He's in a car with his mom and road rage accident and some guys shoots this little kid. Well, the guy didn't mean to shoot the little kid. This was a bad right. This is a situation where you either had an automatic or you

know what I mean, like he did try. But what you see, but you see exactly what we're saying, the action, and you're talked about all that. Your actions have consequences, and that's where that's where there's an issue. Like you said, I'm not mad and I'm not angry, and then you pointed out the issue of yeah, we have to have all that, Yes we do, but pay attention. People's situation

in a particular time might be something different. The guy that might have irrelevant kind of it's not really the person who kind of went in and took your spot technically might have an emergency. Somebody is dying. Let me go grab something and run out. You know, he never even thought about He's like, oh, this is open. Maybe I understand, Yes, he he could have, but some people are like his his mind is like, let me just

get this dumb place. There's an emergency. Because I've been in situations whereby I've got to go to hospital and see somebody who's dying. When I was walking here two thousand and eight to two twelve somebody called that their mom was dying. I had to rush out of the office and I went on the fourteen. I was doing seventy because I had to rush in and annoying the person before they're dying. And this the family was like, father,

please rushed down, and I'm on the freeway. I got pulled over by a cop just as I was about to exit the freeway and he said, yes, yes, speed him like, yes, I was out doing seventy, but this is the reason why I'm doing seventy because I'm rushing down. I was dressed up as a priest going to annoying somebody who was dying. But the cop didn't listen, which is okay. I'm like, fine, I'm speeding. I'm doing seventy.

And I know what I was doing because I had one of those dictators that will tell you they limit and if somebody is actually But the cop came over and gave me a ticket for doing eighty five when I was doing seventy. But the reason why I was going there was for something like that. You can imagine

if let's say, if it was a relative. Later sometimes some day when the cop might have somebody in the hospital dying, and then the family members called a can you come up police, father, and I rushed down to go see the person and I take my time, and by the time I get there, the person is dead or maybe I come in time and the cops sees me like, oh, this was actually what you were doing, and I gave you a ticket. I'm sorry, father, it

can happen. You don't know. That's the reason why we have this standards and I walk today that we we judge orders based on what we think is right. Yes, nomb that's natural law. Yes that's right. But you don't know what the person is going through at the moment, like you, yea, I just want to go get this done. But then I've been waiting and then you just came and took my spot, like are you crazy? What is wrong with you? That's your thought, But you don't even

know what the person is going through. The something with the road bridge of the little kid. Pay attention to that. Okay, this is something that had to do with the parents. Maybe the mama that that driving, and now who look at who's paying for it? But so my point is right, that's a great point. My point is shut the funk up. If you don't know who you're interacting with. If the row race situation with the mom right, shut up, I'm I'm I'm mouth tempered. I never screamed at the man.

I'm not when I'm in a row race situation. I don't my horn. I only bump my horn if you're going to hit my car to let you, you know, to make you're aware that I'm here when you do something silly, I don't look in your car. I'm not mad dogging you when I passed by. I'm not doing none of that. I am focused on what I'm doing. I respect everybody's space. So he could have been rushing into the store. But there's no reason to ever be

rude in this life. There's never a reason. It's not in this Yes, what you're saying, that's perfect, that's true. So I agree, right, there could be a bad situation. His dog could have been in the car at that time. A thousand things could have happened, But I was okay with making sure he understood there is a price to be rude. Okay, what if what you did adopt moment the explutes your effects all the cast, then the fire

keeps on going. How many people die. That wasn't that was then a lot of people would have learned not to do that all at once. I understand what you're saying, but pay attention. No, that's okay, that's what. Yes, that's okay, But pay attention to the the what they called it, the consequences of your actions. That's what we pointed out there, because they can go from there. What if the explodes, that's one, It's gonna affect more people. What if somebody dies,

what if Okay, that was not your intention. You had intention. Let me teach him a lesson so that he wouldn't be rude at it longer, just like you were pointing out. But it led to this and led to that and led to that. And I'm actually I was. I was the origin of this. So I still won't feel like the origin of it. I still will feel like the person being rude got those other people killed. Yes, but but but but I do understand what you're saying that I don't want to. I'm not, you know, ignoring what

you're saying. Um, No, sailors g l Pete in his fire on time as usual. I got one of my closer friends, I could say friends, you know what I mean. A friend, Reverend Figo uh rev is called father father father yea, and my boy Joker is engineering but he's not on the podcast, but just in case he may have an opinion. But at least the show is gonna sound good because he's here. So y'all live for a treat,

you feel me? So no, it's still his fault, Like mark my words, the mom in Orange County, she's blaming herself, I bet every because that was in response to some bullshit. She did well because it's a road rage incident, right, so you can do you can, you know, just diffuse situations just by like oh dude, I'm sorry, like even

thank you, thank you, thank you. It's a obligatory. It's like incoming upon both people to be like, look like you gotta get people wig room, and you gotta be the first one to back down a little bit, like look, sorry to cut you off if you're just driving through society, like you're saying, you can't just be driving through society, do whatever you want, flipping people off acting on this kind of way, because you're gonna elictit some type of

reaction from the wrong motherfucker's some type of justice. Yeah, but what makes it just he said that you're you're now being It's just like when you watch that movie The Punish It it's just you. You you kind of your your Jorge the jury and you do everything that doesn't make it right. Yes, the mom you were talking about, maybe she was remembered she was dropping off the kid the first day at school, right, something like that, she

was rushing down, maybe she has caught up someone. And the Piston was like startled, like, man, what is wrong without and should even pay attention to what I see what you're saying. I think there's three different perspective. It's it's perspectible because there's the there's the ultimate justice God view. There's like okay, God can use people doing wrong ship to exact justice and other people. That happens all the time.

It even happens in the Bible. Like and so what Glasses is saying, like in p is saying, it's like what you're doing if you go through society doing that kind of stuff, that justice is gonna come from somebody at some point. What I'm saying, and he's saying like from from the first I'm as a perspective like you like each one of those people who did that, like it wasn't right that you did that, it wasn't right

that he shot that kid or whatever. But then you're saying like, well, yeah, but that's what you get when you do when you let something like that, I'm for sure agent of the Lord. How are you an agent of the Lord? And then you're doing something like that just justifies the burning I am. I am an agent of the Lord because God used people in the Bible to teach lessons. Yeah, but okay, we have when you said that you don't know what it's in the mind of God, you can know you that's why he's God.

It's based off our relationship. Yes, believe you me if Satan, if I was an agent of Satan, and that's same particular situation. I got my gun in the car, I got hands in the car. What makes you? What makes he said if? He was like, yeah, so now this is the theory, right, this is the theory I figured out. You gotta watch Pete, you gotta watch I like it. He's funny, isn't I like it? Intelligent? So I don't For the record, I don't believe in God, but I believe in the Church. So I'm gonna try to rein

it in for this episode. But I can get that. But but I do believe. I do, But I get that. Let's finisch you what you're saying. That's gonna be good. Okay. So I'm like the opposite. I do believe that God, I don't believe in the church. That conversation, that'd be good. Okay. So look, so Satan, right, I had this whole conversation previously on a podcast about Satan. The true spirit of Satan is to know better but not do better. That's

it's not something that I can actually remember. Okay. History of your Moneity Lucy for Lucy for was Lucy for the Angel of light. That was, That's who he is. He became Lucifer, angel of darkness after that war in heaven, and I had to stem from the love like God had for humanity. It was the jealous You remember, God made us in his image and likeness, so we're different from the angels in his image and likeness. So with that that was that was weird and mostly came in.

So that's why when you said something like, um, oh, I can be I'm not an angel agent of the devil. Or darkness something like that. I'm not an agent of say, agent of Satan. That's why I made it. Because Seton did not want to be He was made in He was supposed to be an example. He was supposed to be the light for others. But his decisions. So we all as human beings, are mading God's image and likeness. Our decisions can be wrong, but that doesn't mean we

are evil. Our decisions but even evil. Right. No, I was gonna say, he oh, no, you like the sound panel by it's it's gonna like the fall. I don't want to come down. Um, I agree, right, but remember angels are a little different than man, right, so they're created a little bit, you know, a little different. But I don't think that's the point. The point is to willfully ignore what's right. I don't think good and evil are that far apart there the consciousness. Yeah, yeah, it's

like that. They have to be like the ignorant cannot be evil based off of because you don't know what's right or wrong. So for me, right, the the because you're right. As human beings, we have both energies flowing through us. Right, it's all available. The evil side of me would have got out is shoddy. The evil side of me would have got out and and uh kicked his ass. The agent of God and righteousness got out and showed him an example. But that's going to cost

him some money. Now listen, right, it's just right by definition, just just thank you, thank you. Do anything at any time to anyone to be like, yes, I agree, you can't. Anybody can make up. I believe in the church. That's tricky, so so I agree. But trust me, I know the energies, So I can't say for every last person. I don't know if the next person's job is to get out

their car and do that. I know the energies because the energy, right, the ignorant energy, not the ignorant, the evil energy is to punish him his physical being who he is right here. The God's side is to cost him some money. He knows to understand, do not take my parkner space or be rude to human beings. He easily he could have hopped out the car red and said, hey man, I'm sorry, man, my baby hand on milk. I wouldn't even thought twice what if he didn't even

pay attention? If I knew he didn't pay attention. I wouldn't even imagine. I knew he saw me because he saw me. But what if God was using that situation to teach you the importance of patience and forgiveness. I have a ton of I forgave him. How are you going to forgive him when you inflict that some damage in this kind? That was the agent through That was

the channel through which forgiveness could be found. Man, if that's the way God accent forgiveness, then none of us would be still here in the as a very old testament individual old testament. But the New Testament is the fulfillment, is the fulfillment of the Old Testament. Jesus is the fulfillment. Jesus fulfilling it. The book of glasses, the new tests in the glass. Not listen, y'all taking this out of content.

I'm not saying glasses. I know. What I'm saying is if I had, if there was a New Testament on glasses, it would go different than Jesus because God created me different than he created Jesus. Jesus is the son of God, so no human being will be like him. That's why my new Testament would be different. It would be like the book of people, remember the virtues, the virtues he

teaches us, getting at what Jesus taught. Yes, because if you're gonna, if you're gonna, you know, if you if you posit that God exists, and then if Jesus is the son of God, then you have to listen to what he says because that's that's what's your moral theory. If it's it's divine command theory, then you have to look at what Jesus said and remember you burned back to the Old Testament that you're saying, oh God said this, I did this, but remember the reasons why those were done.

Let's talk about So let's talk about at that point. I'm glad you guys brought that up with Jesus because he's one of my favorite characters throughout any books. And I love the energy that Jesus had because I'm just focusing on the ideas because right there's nuances that we can have a million conversations. I'm saying based off Jesus in the book, not like Michael Jordan in the book is for than Michael Jordan's basketball player m you know,

I mean Michael Jordan would write it. It's different. So I'm saying the character that Jesus is described as right. I agree. It talked about patience right, and talked about forgiveness, talked about trying your best to be righteous. But there is the money changers. What did he do? And he chased their ass off with a broom, So that that that is also God, the arbiter of morality doing that, not a person flipping over the before we see, let's

not even go that far. We're gonna you have to write that an if you're gonna have that conversation, well, because then at that point, because you have to that's a predication of the entire stories that Jesus is God. But no, but what why did he Why did he keep them outs? Yes? But wait, why did he keep them outs? Know what's she's saying is correct because he said you're a ton of You are toning the house

of my father into a market place. That was the premise, which means that literally was separating from God in the book you Jesus is divine self understanding is not even like debated among cologians. But we're not having that conversation. The conversation we're having is but it's a predication on what you're saying of a person, a human being coming to live, a human being. Yes, Corre's different. So that's what Jesus was in the book. No, yes, he was.

Jesus is a human nature with a divine spirit with Yes, he was one of the three, one of the three persons of the Blessed Trinity. Exactly. There's no God hit in the body, the Father, the Son, and the Holy What are you talking about? Remember the words of Jesus.

Wait wait, wait wait, Remember when in the Book of I Believe, in the Big Book of Marti, when he was about to ascend to heaven, he told his disciples go there for to the world and proclaimed the good news and baptized them in the name of the Father, the name of the Son and the Holy Spirit. Then when he ascended into heaven, the disciples were still looking up. And then the two men in white groups said, men of quality, why are you looking into heaven? The Jesus

that I sent it into heaven will come back again. Also, when he was on trial to it asked him are you violets? Are you? Are you the Messiah? And he said yeah, so, but those are what I wanted to mention. What he said, the trinitarian the God had father us on on the Holy Spirit gives us even mentioned that that's where it is in the Bible, because everybody keeps an arguing, but where is it in the Bible. It

is there in the Bible. And that's why a couple of Sundays ago that licked you celebrate that Holy Trinity to Sunday to remind us once again that it is not something that was made up by the church. It is in the scription. And when he got when he's baptized to yes, was there the Father, the Father the world. But that's not still described as a trinity. These are still human concepts applied to an idea that you don't know. It's great, but that's nothing I don't want to talk about.

That's but the human You can't grab the predicate of a thing and then and then really understand, misunderstanding and then apply however you want and not like, look but but you but you're such that I have the cake and eat it too. No, that's not true. Your belief is that I misunderstand it. Your belief is built off of what you interpret from it. I'm going off on what you just said. No, I'm saying there's no such thing as a trinity, and I just it's not in

the bike. It is that you mentioned three different spirits. You're missing God, Jesus nor the Spirit. So then therefore don't use it and this conversation. That's my point. So then again, once you start using man made ideas, not saying that they weren't inspired by God, I'm not. I'm not even going to debate that. That's I'm not even here to talk about this theology point of it. That's so yeah, But I'm saying I didn't give all of the story. Everybody who's ever lived all of the information.

It was a progressive revelation with his relationship with humanity, and literally was it was literally it was literally a marketing meeting where people came together and decided how they were going to establish how Jesus Christ and God would be praising. It's not how is it a marketing? How is it a marketing, because it's it's still built in

how people wanted to be prior to that. Prior to that, remember, remember I told you a couple of years ago, I wasn't I was in Jerous, I was in Israel, and I have the chance of going to all this this I was in the per room. The upper room was where Jesus had the last supper with his disciples. And in that upper room there's the tree. I will send you the pictures later. That is the three represents the three monotheistic religion Christianity, Judaism, and Islam. The three monotheistic religion.

And if even if you go back to the Old Testament, you can see those three monotheistic religions evident. Abraham, the two sons Eachmail. Remember the sons of Abraham Islam, and then remember the ancient worship of the of the Jewish people was Judaism. Before Jesus not came in with Christianity. It was an Antiochumpisidia. Jesus didn't come here with Christianity. He christian Then why what is what is Christianity? The world christian That's why it has Christ and it I'm

not disagreeing. I don't think see this is I don't want to do this conversation. Okay, but you you started it. That's where correct because but you're not correct me. What you're doing is you're giving me kind of washed up concepts of people saying something Jesus is not a Christian. He was a Jew, so therefore there's no Christianity in that time. This again was created with the counsel and not see it. No, it wasn't. But that's what I'm saying. And the out of the pustles, in the out of

the pustles, Remember, that's what I'm telling you. And how could that not be? Right? Literally? No, that's where the name an entire entire arm of scholarship called biblical criticism textual criticism. They compare ancient manuscripts to figure out exactly what to piece together what the original manuscripts said, and we can get all the way back to within five there is not eight months, but there's nothing of Jesus's

actual actions and life. And that is the reason why we started Hebrew and these books, like the New Testament, isn't just just some random books. These were all separately, independently circulated throughout the difference of copies of all these and some of them that we have back to is late. I mean there's early as seven. Again, what you're doing is you're you're you're literally not talking about the point. What you're talking about is, Okay, what is your points.

What is your points? What is the point? Books that also could have went into the new Yeah that I didn't make it terrible, but they actually read the Gospel of Tima. But again again based off of perception. Again, but you gotta know the scholarship. You're speaking so authoritative on the ship I am because there's no Christianity in the Bible for sure. I don't need a scholarship to know that. And I said, the apostle, that's what I'm telling you. That's not that's not true. But listen, it's

just the teaching Christianity. It's just like Branch the video after David Koresh was dead, that he was calling himself and his people the Davidians exactly. Remember, it wasn't remember the name, name name, No, the name you're talking about. Listen, the name you're talking about Christians. Jesus never used that word. And I'm talking after his resurrection and I'm tiking Pisidia,

the full loss of Jesus. People saw them and they said, these people are different, their actions are different, they're unique, they're special. And then they called them Christians. I'm not, I'm not. It wasn't nobody that people call them Christie Christians means you're the follow off Christ. He just said the same thing. That's that's that's the point where I'm not I'm not disagreeing. Like the point I'm saying is everything I'm saying I could stand on Again, how it's

how people say it after that's their choice. There's no way somebody could tell me how to follow Christ. There's no way possible somebody could tell me how to follow Christ. I don't care what religion or structure set up. I can follow Christ how I take fit from the Bible, but yourself exactly So again, if I tell you I don't have what you should, what is what I do? Obviously right, I wouldn't. But how you're gonna be able

to interpret that based on the context. But but that's the point that that's that's up to me and me finding is seeking. However, I consume information based off of the people I can have access to. I don't need somebody professionally taught how to explain it to me. That was the whole that was the whole revelation, I mean Reformation was about. That's what the whole Reformation was about.

Martin Luther was like, now that people should be able to just straight people to the scripture about having to go through. But again, I don't want it. Okay, what is your point. Let's get to your point. I'm not against Christianity. I'm not against the concept of the Holy Trinity. I'm not against any of these things. So whether or not I think this is an agreement or I think they exists, that's not the point, right, It's the point is that we all think Jesus Christ is an awesome

guy based off of the book, based off of the story. Right, we all agree except Pete, that Jesus Christ is an awesome that's written up for his written up very favorably. That's my point, right, It's an awesome story of an awesome guy. Right, So we all agree. And that's where we really when you say this story, Okay, that's what I was just like, because I was there. I'm not I was again, I'm not just we need to put

a moratorium on Minutia. No, I'm not saying that. I'm saying based off because none of us lived at that time, right, And I'm saying that gets into the whole thing about epistemology and how you know what is true and that's why I'm not even doing that. Though I'm not even doing that. What I'm saying is we all can agree that Jesus Christ was an awesome guy. Great, Okay, so

then what is your point? Because you what you raised an issue that he now pointed I emphasized, but again because it starts to becoming a perception of how you see things, and I'm telling you based off of the Bible, right, how I see things, how I've did my own homework and figured it out, like right, this is what I'm saying. But long as we can all come together and the fact that we all think Jesus Christ is awesome and a great sense of inspiration the life he lived, right,

that's where we share. That's all I'm saying. Right. I don't want to get into the trinity that because these are different conversations that could go a thousand ways, and those each one of those sections could go for themselves. I'm talking about how you have to live your life right now today on the street, and what he's saying basically, it's like, well, you can't just take what you like about Jesus and throw the rest away. If you if you say he's an awesome guy. Then look at what

he said, Look what he did. Look that's what I'm saying. Because your reaction to be like, Okay, well Jesus did this, so I can do this. I didn't say that necessarily. Well, you were referencing him flipping over the tables and chasing off the money. Once he brought up Jesus within the conversation. I referenced that, so I didn't just take the fact that he was just super cool and patient, but also understood sometimes he had to burn a motherfucker caring. So

what I'm saying, you get what I'm saying. Yeah, but he wouldn't. But yeah, but yeah, go ahead to go chasing. No, but were then we're doing it in the temple. That's why it's so crucial. Were doing it, and don't put it out of contact. I'm not saying understanding Jesus as divine or as a person, because if he's divine and he has the authority to do that, but because divine command theory theory is that God himself issues commands to his people, and by by moral I mean by virtues.

I'm glad you said that. Slow down, say that again. God issues who to his people his people burn that mother give you being predicated on the idea that you that you started off with this by saying that you're an agent of God. Dude, you did that as an agent of society because people can't walk around putting themselves to see the difference. People, but see the difference. He made a point. But I'm not an a good stody because I wouldn't burn that person's car down if they

did it to somebody else. But what do you say, do you see the difference? You said an agent of God for doing that, and then he's telling you know what you acted us was an agent of society because remember we started with the normb The norm is you don't be rude to people, you don't cut people off, you don't do this. That's a societal conception that is not God's conception. God. We don't know what is in God's mind. But so that's why he's using society's people.

I know what he's telling me. I'm able to decipher. I'm able to decipher the two energies that go through my head consistently. And you said, can I say something? When you said that we don't know what's in God's mind I get that. But at the same time, you know, according to the Bible, his moral laws written on everybody's heart. So we do have faculties that allow us to apprehend when people are doing ship that's morally fucked up or shouldn't be done in the case like glasses. He can

apprehend that. And that is and and also God's not going to do something that's counter to his nature, So you're not gonna We know that God's in his mind. Isn't sitting there thinking about murdering and torturing people for fun because that's counter to his nature. So we don't know ultimately God's mind, but we do know based on our our moral we know he's teaching, rehending what that

God's given us apprehending. We have the commandments, we have the teachings, we have plans, we have yes, remember the gift of knowledge. We also have moral senses. But but again, right, did I break a commandment by burning his motherfucking car down? Then what is the commandment of love? What you did? Was that any act of flow? I have one issue with this, Yes, it was love teaching. It's like, that's

not that's not love love love? May sure I let him go home with his life, because that's a very it's interesting seeing glasses moralistic perspective on these things because there's genuine validity too. I'm being genuine as possible. I'm not. It's not tough or anything. You said you did this because he did it to you, so you were acting

as an agent of yourself. And the Malonnian sense of the glacidius and like similar things, because I saw somebody else do that to somebody else when someone did that to me, like you know, like the parking in the parking lot of the concrete thing that at the end of the space there was one of the was around somebody else trying to park. Two in the morning by my apartment curbside. There's people staying out there holding you can't park here. My friends coming in and I'm like,

get the funk out of the way. We almost got into right there, but it was three girls. I'm gonna get out of the car and smash your faces into the curb to three in the morning over parking spot. But you can't walk around and stand there like you're somehow of greater value in on a public curb parking spot than I am. So I picked the thing up and I threw through a windshield like a harpoon. Yeah, but that's pete because you're being an agent of as whole. No,

I think that because neighborhood. It's completely out of out of order. And but if we if we all start inflicting our own conception of justice on everyone, I don't think there'll be any one of us left. But again, there's times, right it's not happening. Often there's times I didn't do anything. Yeah, I was gonna say, you probably wouldn't do that right now, would you? The problem people step out of line because area that's going through me.

But the difference is I can recognize each energy. This is I'm being honest, Like I can recognize each energy because what what the evil energy? You know what I mean that that courses through me? Shoot him? Mhm. And it's not shoot him because some people can say, oh, it's just a parking space. It wasn't. It was. It was a way to to disrespect somebody, to reduce their existence, to make them feel like they didn't matter. It's not.

It's a manifestation thereof it's not. It's you are more worthy even though I was waiting and you knew it belonged to me. It was my turn to part it's an illustration of sentiment. Yeah, yeah, but remember you didn't put sudden things in concentration. That's what we were talking about with Joker, being attention to the fact that the person's mindset at the moment, what they're going through psychologically might be deficially. You know, there's many things going on

when you don't put those sinstance perspective. That's why sometimes is not I've had let me give you an instance. I've had a situation whereby somebody called me on the phone. Father, Um, I wanted to come and annoint my dad. He's dying in the hospital and we'll have family members there. We are guarded. We wanted to come over and anoint him. He's we don't think he's going to make it that long, but he's awake. And I drove down there, came into the room and the guy said it was a white guy.

Get out here, you nigger. I don't want no nigger annointing me. He told that to me, and the yes and the kids were like, oh no, father, No, We're so sorry that that's okay. I'm like, that's fine, that's fine, I just left. Was I offended? Of course I was offended because I took my time to come and do that work. Yes, it's my duty, but I would upset. I'm busy, I'll come back later. But I did it because I wanted to fulfill my duty as a Catholic priest,

and I wanted to be there for the family. But then his reaction will be one of those reactions like and I'm not even gonna do that again, you know, something like that. But then after a couple of days he was actively dying, they called back again and I was a person they called to come an anoint him and this wasn't Camaro, And I came and anointed him. And then when he passed on, the family said they wanted me to celebrate the mass. You see, that was

a lesson to me patience. I didn't react differently. I would have, you know, like, no, the color and I'm not gonna go, no, I'm not gonna go look at what he did. But that's that's in a way, putting your perspective is justice, because you know, wait, wait wait, wait wait, I've never explained because because you you said disrespect, that's what what you use that's why I'm using that

as an example. He said he disrespected me. But that's the biggest disrespect because I took my time off, and mind you, that day, I haven't It was a busy day since seven a m. And it was like around one o'clock or two o'clock. I have not had breakfast, I have not had lunch, and you caught and I left everything just to come in. I was literally passing out because I was a little bit dizzy. But I came to see you, to annoint you because that was what was most important to me at that moment. But

then you reacted that way. So when I did that, the family was set aback. They were like they didn't believe it. But then they reacted differently. And when they reacted differently, they now said you. They still called back and they said they wanted me, and I came, and then when I did the funeral, after the funeral, they sent me a cat. How many months later, thank you, you thought of something that we're never Can you imagine this is the way our dad reacted. You never showed

any anger, you never jold any frustration. When we still called you back, you came, but as a human being. I was offended. I'm a human being. First, Remember I was offended and that was the most disrespectful thing. I'm taking my time to come and help you out or do an act of charity to you based on my ministry. But this is the way you react. And I still did the funeral. So when you when we do with it, we put in that perspective. It doesn't work because he

offended me. But that was a teaching moment for the family. That was also a teaching moment for me not to take everything personal because you didn't know what this man was going through. You know what I mean joking? You don't know what this man. This man is actively dying. I have a few days today. I'm frustrated about life. I'm angry with everybody. Okay, where is God? Why are you having somebody coming and anoint me that I'm dying? God?

Can't you give me a long life? Okay? This is what the man is going to And that was when I wanted to get angry. That was the first thing that came to my mind. This man is going through a lot. He has few days. I thought about all that, you know, but that's what I'm saying. But at that moment, the best reaction was let go. There's this mantra that I use anything that would get me so angry or to the edge. I was to be like let go

and let god. That's me all the time. Yeah. But when we say we what we did is something that that's like a form of revenge, and you said these justice revenge would have been for me to disrespect him.

It's pretty disrespeciful. Here. Here's here's the I think the problem we have societally with this mentality is that it's so pervasive, whether it be people who don't wanna deal with the consequences of trying to be purveyors of consequences, or because they're scared, or because they're forgive or because whatever the hell. Now, there's this statistical probability that a lot of people who want to be selfish in the moment, who want to live a life as a selfish person,

don't perceive that consequences are a real thing. So they go through and you see it a decay of the greater societal behavioral model, because the probability matrix is the odds of somebody actually presenting me with a consequence to my own actions. In real time is impossible, and and that's in it. Thank you. So so my point is so too to that point, right, because that's how women are. Women don't have a true don't. They live in the world of no consequences, right, And I think some men

tend to live like that. You get what I'm saying. See, the difference with me was right. I would have been okay if I went to jail for that was teaching him that lesson was worth every second of it, every day I would have did. If whatever would have happened, I would have been okay with the consequences. See true acts of evil, you're not okay with the consequences. You feel like it's a misuse of when you take revenge or two rungs, I'm making rights pretty much. Yeah, when

you start doing that, that's when you start regretting. I would not regret that for two seconds because I know my actions were to teach, and you may have saved his life that way. He might have done that the next from I swept for less some guys down God, I believe that, genuinely. I believe sometimes even with women, if somebody just slapped a disrespectful woman like a woman who uses profanity, talks crazy to a man. Dah blah blah blah, just uber verbally assault, I mean like aggressive.

If somebody slaps her, they may save her life, but it's not. But it's enough for you to beat the judge that you're hand. You know. Remember remember, let me ask you a question, glasses, have you ever done something wrong to someone? Yes? And what was the reaction of the person? Um, let's see, I might have got ignored for a few days. I got fired on before, like somebody hit me before. Um, I got shot at before for doing something wrong. I stole the car, didn't even

need the money. We're just being kids, um, few things. Yeah, but then you see the reaction of the person. You would have cost your life? Would you have said that that was the best option? But see the difference with revenge injustice? Right is you're willing to be held to

count But you said god father one. Yeah? But yeah, wait, but you remember you said something about Okay, I'm being I mean I used the ball, you use the ball like an agent, yes, okay, but then paying attention to the fact that you must have done the same to someone. But now the person ignored you, like you said, that was the first answer you gave ignored okay, because it isn't like yeah, that's okay. No, it might be the most painful, like somebody ignored me for days. But that's

what I'm saying. You would have done the same to the guy who did that to you know, because that ignoring him doesn't cause the emotional distress and pain. And the other person and who ignored him caused him. If he ignores the other pay for whatever was burned. Thank you, thank you. These are these are levels, these are scenarios.

The punishment that the woman inflicted on me was harsher meet, burning that stupid ass car, that interior, that ship wasn't nothing that cost him some money, and pain of him spending some money. That woman ignored me for what did you even pay attention? If let's say his wife was dying, his kid was dying, somebody was, he had to get a medication. Acceptable, there's no but that you give the example of for what I know, But that's but you

give an example of ridiculous. I did this. When I did this, I made some crazy and I and I took I took the revenge or justice that the person issued me. I didn't stay mad at him. I understood I deserved it, and I learned my lesson to never do that again. I never would deal with a woman and don't tell her what I think anymore. I never will hold my emotion just back and be the tough guy and big you know a girl I like at

a thank you? Right? You see that thought you so see how you're you're splinting all this, and that's what you left from those situations. It thought you more. It made you be a better person. But that's not how I baught you money. He will be a better person. I bet you the lady right that was in a row rage incident with her son, right with her son, because I don't think that's justice, right, I think that's a revenge on a on a situation that's I feel

bad recipes of that little kid. I feel sorry for the brother that went to prison, you know what I mean? Like he let you know, he let the aide the spirit of evil course and take you know, a much tougher situation into a bad situation. Um So I pray that you know he finds some kind of peace in his What if, Okay, what if when you said you

the window was slightly open, right. What if the window was centted a little bit right, and you just spay attention to after the open and maybe there was a kid behind and you didn't know that he left his kid in the car to go on the grocer's door. It can happen. It happens always. It's his fault. And then and then you said the count fire. That's exactly so I would feel bad, right obviously if somebody got hurt, But it's still here's fault. He's I'm not saying he's

not at fault. Remember, I'm not saying that. I'm just saying our reactions, there's consequences to it because what we're doing it might not be the best answer in those situations. That's why you I told you I used the man let go and let go. This is selective consequences. So the consequences for the guy trying to provide consequences, But there's no consequences for the first actor. I'm not saying there is. But remember often the times we are we

are the one giving out the justice. And that's why I asked him, what if has he done something like that? That somebody did something? So he's like this the car scenario, Like, there's there's two types of mentalities. There's I cut Joe off Joe hawks and I go my bad, and then there's I cut Joe off Joe Hawks and I flip him off. Fuck you're gonna hawk at me. Serial B is a more problematic scenario. But I don't know what the person is. Scenario B is going through, so it

doesn't matter. I know, I know, I understand, Yes, I know it's it can be, but you don't know what the person is. It doesn't matter at all. But the only thing, the only thing I'm emphasizing is this. You know, often at times there's this saying in my language in Nigeria that, um, when you carry the cops of somebody else's family member, it seems like you're carrying a piece of wood. When you're carrying the cops of your family member,

you feel like I lost something. There's an attachment, and in neither scenario would it be justifiable to drop the wood. That's a great point. No, it's. But it's the thing is, it's if it doesn't affect you. Okay, we're talking about this. Let's see that happened to your brother. You're still you're creating a subjective hierarchy of I understand you. No, no, no no, but but I got him. But I got him. I

understand that shit. You know what I mean, Like somebody did that to your brother, if so, if my brother ruly if k or or baby age or snipe rudely disrespect to someone taking their parking space, being selfish, whatever they got coming to him. If it's just a side a few mirrors of cars off off of cars of people who did that to other people, I wasn't even there.

And I'll be honest, I have did things for other people because I saw stuff happen, Like if I felt like you just did that because that person I stood up for people being bullied. Yes I did, I did too, write But but what I'm saying is right. I know personally, I can identify the energies running. I can identify them like I can feel. But what I'm saying is I understand, I understand your p understand your perspective. I understand your perspective. What I'm saying is often at times it can go

out of hand. That's one too. What if you were doing that and the person comes out and something happens. It's escalates. It's just like you know, I'm not going to go into this, but it might be a horrible as um example, but it's just like what we see with the cops and pulling over black people and Asian or Hispanic or white. It doesn't. Simple things can escalate Cuchain situations. And that's that's my my whole explanation, I

understand what you're saying. My whole explanation on this or point on this is not to let it escalate, because anything can it can go. You had a simple let me just correct him, maybe that would teach him a lesson. But what if it escalates and the something let me tell that is okay, what you're doing is wrong and that's not right. I'll just break your outside mirrors so you understand that next time you don't do something like that. That's nonsense. But what if it escalates and then the

person comes out? And then I had a situation here in probt that when I was working here, a kid and he spunny kid some this is high school and I think someone I think group, the sister or something like that, and then the sister told him and he went up like why would you do that? The guy just straight up stopped him and almost killed him. Then he came out of the hospital, got better, and he vowed that he was going to kill this dude. I'm like,

are you kidding me? Like, seriously, are you kidding me? God gave you a chance for something that was stupid, that would have taken your life. This is the next step. I don't care. I don't care if I go to jail. I don't care if I spend the rest of my life in jail. And I saw him down. This dude was I was smaller than this is was like two times bigger than you. I'm like, man, first of all, he was scary, and then I'm like, okay, that's the best that you think about it. If that's the situation,

that's something little like this that make no sense. Yes, I'm not saying what the boy did to yourself that I was right, but okay, And the parents were the ones that came up to me. But I can you talk to him? Can you talk to him? I was coming out of the office and I saw this big dude that I'm like, I ain't gonna do this. I was about to sneak back into direction, like father, you know, I'm like a father, Yeah, father, can you come? I'm like, God, help me. Then that was the situation. But I tried

talking to this dude and it didn't walk. So what I did was I called them healvy that did I'm gangsters Paradise with Coolio because he was walking with my cousin. Remember then, Yes, so I'm like, hell, big, can you talk to this dude? And I've done that to you many times. I've called you many times, Hey can you talk to his young cat? And you've done that, like, hey, come on, man, that's not worth it. You see the words of LV. I think it was actually you that

I called and you spoke to the dude. It was like he was like is their glasses? Like seriously, I'm like, yes, talk to him. And then when you spoke to the kid, he changed. Now the guy is one of the leaders, married, married saying different life perspective. I wasn't even the one, not the other guy. He's just out still terrorizing society because that's the guy wanted to make. He thought that because he was the guy was active, you know, banking, you know what he was. He was active and the

other one was not. So he had every right to do anything to the guy technically speaking, you know what I mean, And the guy couldn't you know what I mean. But what he did after you spoke to him changed his life. I did not even say nothing. He listened to you. You spoke to him. You made that change in his life. All I did was give you call you remember? But then that's a class situation. Will now

teach that all that kid, this dude, let go. Don't you think that's a teaching So again the agent of God flowing through me, some lessons in vocals, some lessons coming. I think this highlights. I think this, this whole situation and conversation highlights the drastic implications of your fundamental global paradigm. Like if you believe in God, then you believe that there's an ultimate moral arbiter of history and of justice and all that ship like it's all gonna get worked.

If you don't, then it's like we are the ones who needed to dish that out. And the problem the problem with that though, And then what what he keeps highlighting is that the second you go into like where the arbiters, then it opens up this moral relativism that where you can justify anything, and and you can't just be like, oh, you can't do that because this guy is like, well, I felt like it was the right

thing to do. That's there's no God, there's no ultimate, more arbiters, So therefore I'm gonna be the one who dished this out. And it is what it is, like anyone can say that, and that's it's just kind of a without an anchor, without a moral ontology, without an ultimate, actual moral authority. You get drastic different outcomes from these conversations, I mean, these situations, and you get drastic different ways of thinking about it and and how you should enacting

them personally. But the only difference between revenge and justice, like so right, and let's say Pete knocking off the mirrors, Pete would have been okay, if you've got in trouble for it, yeah, bother me. The difference is with justice is different. With revenge, you see people losing their mind and going crazy. I've been in prison, excuse me, not prison. I've been a jail for things I've did that I thought was just yeah, never flinched. I can directly relate

with that, never flinched. So but revenge, right, you'll regretted. That's what I've been able to decipher. Justice. You won't regret revenge, you will regret. I got homies that's doing life in prison right now. That regretted. I had a homie that did twenty five five years. Right, my homeboy Sharky. We called him Loco. I'm the seventh um. Something happened with his female cousin. She was dating the guy, and the guy was abusive. He was kicking her ass, right,

he told me the story. I heard about it a couple of times. It's like, damn, that's crazy. Well the last time he had to kick her ass really bad. This was a situation Whin watched their Lynnwood. So it's right down the street. So they start mounting up. Hey man, we're gonna go deal with this guy that's doing all this stuff to Sharky. To Loco's cousins, and I remember his conversation enough time, right, it was like, you know what, she probably liked this ship sounds like non, gonna stay here,

I'm gonna get this money him Shanny Wanny. So Loco, Shawny Wanny and one of his other homeboys they go to deal with the situation. They catch him they shoot him, shoot him up, doesn't die, tells on him. They go to jail his cousin. The female cousin is showing up while her boyfriend, who was kicking her ass, is testifying on local with Shawny wanting this proves a great point, concisely trying to get it. Revenge is selfish, justice is

self less, exactly, and I'm a selfless person. I'm so selfless. So he's just thinking justice is mine, said the Lord, Like you know what I mean, he's thinking of what the teachers, especially because I'm not God. That's not, that's not, that's not, that's not. I do believe sometimes I do turn the other cheek with Brandy, don't. I literally let her be right whenever sometime for me right, So I turned the other cheek consistently throughout the enabler of a

consequence free universe. I'm a part of the problem. Hard for me to do, bro, I am a part of the problem because being with someone. Somebody gave me the coldest game in the world. They said, being with someone got to be more important than you being right. When you meet that person, that's the person. And I never heard of Rore. It's that ship should be in the Bible when I do a new Testament, a newer Testament that's going to be in there. Relationships, a real relationship,

because I don't want people to follow me. You should still follow Jesus. But I need to add on. I need to add on for today because there's some adjustments that need to be made today