Conversation About COVID (Vaccine Edition)

with the first conversation, right, but this is extra. This is important because King who felt like he wasn't introduced even though y'all motherfucker's no, we got an engineer every week. We didn't explain it for the last three weeks. We're really having was our engineer just walked in at the end of the show. So now we're going to have a special engineer episode. Now he was here the whole time. He was here whole time. There's some questions, King, go

ahead and ask Doc questions. Doc, I wanted to know. That's it. I got sick of cell trade and I got concedered my closes, which is called valley fever, and I got I went into renal failure. When it happened when I caught Ballei fever, I went to renal failure. They gave me afiterrism B to come out of it, and you might. Valley fever is like that prison thing. Yeah,

you caught we caught it in prison. Everybody heard about that. Yeah, it's like a whole documentary on And they gave me after terrism be because it was so bad that they had to start. YEA. So now somebody like me with the chronical diseases I got which I'm going to die from because my ammute system is already fighting it. Should I get vaccinated for this or should I just let my immune system fight and something comes on fighting? Then

that's a good question. So when you look at the studies that have been done, there's a lot of people who are at risk from having for having a severe infection from COVID. I don't think coxy and sickle cell trade have been put in those studies exactly, but the same principle stands, which is, if your immune system is already weaker because you're fighting other things, I think those are people who it would be a good idea for you to consider getting that vaccine to help you fight

the virus when you get it. But my thought would be when you, when you explained it earlier, that take away for a minute, fighting what's already in me to try to fight this new thing. Well, no, it's so the symptoms that's going to take away, because like right now, they told me if I could die if my immunes start finding something greater than fighting. But that's why he says you need to fight it. A weekend version that would be out about people with pre existing unrelated conditions

and their interaction with the vaccine itself. Well that's what he said. Yeah, he's saying that just not he is. So yeah, So I think earlier, I think what I was trying to say, and I can say to you now is that if you have a weekend immune system and you get infected with COVID, like the actual virus, then I think that that is what puts your immune

system in a difficult place. Right. It's trying to help keep your body from fighting these chronic diseases, and you've got to deal with the new thing on top of it. That's what we're talking about earlier. I think for the vaccine, that type of when you get vaccinated, that immune system fight is not the same as getting you don't know, you don't not seeing star, you don't want to see the real Mike to make me have that disease. No,

that's not that's not what he's saying. He's so I'm gonna tell you in boxing, because this is I'm good at this. You don't want to see the real Mike Tyson being in that situation. So what he's saying is spar with David tooa spar with you know, you know what it's gonna give you head gear Johnson. No, that's not what I'm going to Johnson. But but that's not the point. I'm saying, spar with David Tour, spar with a weakened version of the champion that's been knocking a

lot of motherfucker's out. Feel me if you have to, because you may have to run into Mike Tyson and you don't want that fade raw, So put your head gear on pick one. Right. I would seem like this is how I would do it as a boxing guy. Love boxing. I would definitely funk with the m R n A right, because that's probably not for you. Know that you don't want to go in there with David too. You need to spar with, like, give me some David Tour with eighteen ouns twenty four and your head year.

That's probably your best face because it will prepare you for the fight, because yeah, so you just she knocked me. I'll just be knocked down. Done, I'm done, fuck you, I'm spar I could say that I got knocked out by Mike Tyson. Yeah, but you can't say nothing. If you can't say you got knocked out by night, We'll just just I've been knocked out before and didn't know it's okay. No no, no, no, this knocked out different. This right here? Ten count no no more, no more.

This is a rolling count knockout. They just they don't count to ten. They just keep counting. Yeah. Just I'm just like, sneak it here, yo, you yo, you should. I've never in my life told someone this. You should. Okay, See, I can't say that because then if he if he knocked you out with twenty four hours gloves and yeah like ship don't feel like look like Lawrence Martin. I'm thinking, honestly, That's why I'm asking you, because I do consider it. But the fear that I think inside my mind is

gonna make it worse. Understand, I think I think if I'm you, I get the m R and A right, I get the fighter, because that's like David Toua with hounds gloves on. You're wearing headgear fore me, and it's not it's like limited rounds. I don't think you want to run into Mike Tyson and you've been fighting this whole week. I think I'm gonna keep my mask on six ft away. I think you should get the fighting. I think you should get the fires of vaccine and

keep your mask on. I think you need to be sparring and prepared because especially with all I didn't even notice. Nigg and I've been knowing you this year. You did not tell me you got value fever. Yeah, I've had that, almost died. That's something you should just tell the nigger that you fun like. Yo. Bro has value fever and I have sickle cell. Try. He didn't tell you about as harpies either, but you know those are the dot

does that interact. Don't have her. I've never been allerged to anything in my life except two flu shots that I ever had. There's the only two times I've ever been allerged to anything, and I had the fucking virus. So I'm not taking the vaccine because I had the virus that is trying to simulate. I think the vaccine the simia virus already had seem stupid to me. So like they try to say, oh, the vaccine will better prepare your body for variable variants down the line or whatever.

The hell, is there any science behind the idea that the vaccine could better prepare you for a virus than

the virus. Yeah, so that's a great question. So at one point, and then I'll get to that answer after the first point is all the talk we do about the vaccines, Like the big way to view it is it's how much can that extra sparring session from the vaccine protect you from the risk you're already add So, if you're at higher risk for a severe disease initially, the vaccine is going to be more beneficial to you.

But if you're at a low risk, if you're a healthy twelve year old kid, fifteen year old kid, the question should be what is your risk of having a severe disease initially, and then how much can that change with the vaccine. So that's kind of that's a whole other aspect to considers. So someone like you, healthy had COVID before, been exposed. You know, it's a different question for a different calculus to try to figure out how

much more that helps you. And so I completely agree with you that ultimately the decisions should be left up to people, but I think people should be informed to know what their base level risk is so they can better understand how much that vaccine would really help them. And I think we're doing a disservice to tell people that the vaccine is going to help that seventy five year old person with heart disease, kidney failure, liver failure, the same way it's gonna help a seventeen year old

kid who's on the high school football team. You know, I'm saying that's that's the point with that, And yeah, for you, so I think you know, if you've had it before, the question now it's an outstanding question about how much does the vaccine prepare you for future variants

like delta and others. That's kind of being figured out now, but I don't think that anyone give account of Los Angeles, the answer is not well, right, I don't know if there's a solid answer so far about because you get that version, you get that fucking diet vaccine, because and I just like, you get I let his ass up, and they still threw me out of total one or of bev moo up the street last weekend because I didn't come in with my boxing helmet on it. Because

it's so it's for everybody else's weird. The weirdest part about this whole thing to me is like people who haven't been vaccinated people like people who haven't vaccinated feel like they're It's like they're the people who haven't been vaccinated should be scared, not the ones who have. The people who are the most scared in this situation are the ones who've had the sparring and they're like, yo, you know you ain't had the sparring. Was like, well

that would be that person's problem. You should feel good about your chance, Like well, yeah, I already did this. I don't know what this like. But that is not the mentality Like the vaccinated people are like we need to be we need to be protected from the unvaccinated people, when in real life and theory, it's the other way around. That's what I'm saying. Some of the shenatgans do not make sense to me, where it's like, okay, let's break

this down. Let's funk all the bullshit. Break it down. Bro, If you have been vaccinated, what the funk are you scared of? Now. I'm not saying you cannot contract the virus. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying you have been prepared for it as the best of your ability. The motherfucker who has not should be more scared than you. That is weird when it's the other way around. That's why I know. It's just like people are just going crazy, like something is wrong with them to wear I'm just like,

this don't make sense to me. It's driving me crazy. It's that fear. It's that fear started a year and a half ago and it hasn't left. That ship is getting worse. Doesn't fear lead to anxiety that could actually kind of work detrimentally on your immune system? Yes, yes, can't. They're talking to you, dog, they're talking to you, King, they are talking to you. That's another show. I wasn't really talking to King, but that motherfucker's show. That another

They don't talk about my sandars. Jesus said, good motherfucker's fit. Oh they fit. That is that is a cannabis business wing tip right there. Sure they fit that that that piece you just gave fit because that's him right there, he be aid, even man, bro deep breath, just deep breath in, breathe out, like into your shirt or something. Because the rest of us are scared. Do we not agree? What do we not agree? COVID should have me curious, scared,

serious about it every day. Okay, so my stress level shouldn't be like that that I'm un vaccinated walking around people that vaccinated think they superheroes. And because I don't think that, but I think the vaccinated people are more scared than you are. But still, COVID not affect my mental state though in the condition of my health. You know, doctor, what you think? I think? I think you know, a year and a half ago, when it first came and it was brand new, it makes sense like everyone it

affected everyone's mental health. But I think almost like we talked about, right, when you get an inflammatory response, your immune system response to an infection, it's supposed to go up, and it's supposed to go back down. When it goes up and stays up, and you stay anxious, you stay nervous, you stay worried. For a year and a half that starts to have an effect on you. You're making your

you're making your body weak. So it's not to say that, you know, you can't, we can't just all forget that it ever happened and kind of, you know, just put in the back of our like, we gotta live with it. And that's the hard thing to deal with. And so I think it's just a battle you're gonna have to kind of work through, you know. He think he beat Mike Tyson the first fight. In the rematch, he think he might do it again. Well, it got to be

some confidence. It's fair, you should have some confidence. I mean, the worst that could happen is I win and I get part of my ear bit off, but I still win. Two