Conversation About Cheaters

I don't think he gave us an f you. I just together the stuff to do. But what's crazy, right is um, you get spoiled by having certain people. And I was spoiled by having him. But when we did the episode about Satan and uh and and God, I noticed how destored it it sounded. So it's good having to say it here to do the ship say getting engineer and everything, saying the and all that. And finally,

the person we wanted to start the podcast with. We always said she was gonna be like a monthly guest because exactly it was like to have her come in as a monthly you know, a voice, because you know I would love her every week. But that's just not realistic. So a monthly voice, you know, and as a sister is dope because she's a therapist, all kind of fly ship like that. So my dog Glenna from the beach man, I'm sorry, hold up your professional named professional doctor. I know,

Glenna the loke. Let me telling people my secrets. Dot, I sound like you got a low rider. Do the loke and the dog? No sillings feel mede it? You know we're gonna figure it out. Yeah, it is all good. We got time, um now fitnish telling me? So what exactly do you know about the Bill Gates ship in bezos? Like? What what's the rumor? Like? So obviously you ain't thank you, honey,

even though you white and he white. Naturally, you know, we all think y'all know each other, which is racist, but in simple you know, arithmetic based you know, population charts, were a bit of a larger community, so it's harder than know everybody. And when they have a team of security as thick as those two gentlemen, it's very hard to you know, intermingle. Would you hang with them if you're could? I couldn't tell you. I don't know anything about them, probably not Bill. Why would you not with

Bill game? I think Bill's um bizarre personality, uh Bezels. I think it's just a monster, not in a bad way. He he's, like we were saying a second, he he is a driven economic mind, mastermind. He's He's not a guy who's stuck in an abstract world of code nerd recluse type guy like Bill. He seems like a guy who might be tiring to hang out with a long time age, sleeps about seven minutes a week, but he's probably pretty cool guy basil status beils. So what do

you know about the whole situation? Very little? I mean from what you read, because I wouldn't read about From what I understand, there was some cheating involved that got to the point where it was time to go for the wives, and I would be willing to bet that the way the first one went probably gave the impetus for the second one to go. Mm hm did you read about that? Just about the same that you know.

It's a whole lot of money, a whole lot of assets being split up behind some cheating that they were finally like, I'm not gonna do this anymore. And I don't know really what the prenup situation was with Bill because they got married. He had billions of dollars. He didn't have a hundred, but he had like ten, which is enough significant. So if somebody got a billion dollars, though,

wouldn't you expect them to have some bitches? Honestly, I know that's that's a hard place to put you in the corner, and I don't want to put you in that corner. I'm just being honest. If somebody got billions of dollars, you would think they would have women like they would have some women. No, they don't. Even women don't believe that. I don't even know that. It's that we don't believe it. I think maybe even after a while.

I don't know how long either of them were married, but it wasn't a quick marriage, right something right, So I think even after a while, it's like I'm still alive. So I could be forty fifty sixty and I might have another twenty thirty forty years ahead of me where I don't have to wonder, are you out somewhere? Are you gonna embarrass me? Are you gonna get caught up? Is one of these women that you're messing with? Gonna like go public and just embarrass the mess out of me,

So let me cut my houses in. So women, really it's about embarrassments, you know. That's one that's especially one fact, and I don't want to speak for them. Would it be worth something though, if you were specifically, say Bill Gates's wife, to know that you had the luxury of sitting back and having him sleep with women besides you so that you didn't have to deal with it. It depends on why you got married and why you're still married, because if you got married for fidelity, that's not a luxury,

that's an insult, true. So it just it just depends, you know, if if if you got married for love, then you don't care about any of this. Split this up, I don't care about any of it. But if you got married as part of a transactional arrange meant well then by all means you live your life. I'm gonna live mine. Oh. I just would think if a dude had a billions of dollars, and as a woman, I

would think like he probably got some women. I'd like to think if you had those kind of resources, you could suppress the news quote unquote, I mean you got more money than King Henry the eighth, and there weren't a lot of mistresses causing a lot of problems in the kingdom during his reign. I mean you probably could, you know, manipulate the media, manipulate the women. I like, for example, Donald Trump had the contract with the with the porn star. She came out whatever she had to

pay him. She's gonna die poor, Like she's gonna be paying paying pieces of lawyer fees for the next forty years. Over that, we were just talking about Trump being the beast. Trump is a beast, that's like real beast. Trump is such a beast, is scary. He has metabolized the caffeine and diet coke with the trans fats and McDonald's hamburgers and harnessed like cold fusion. It's unbelievable. That toxicity is

just the next level. Man. I love that dude, man like, and it's not I genuinely love him, but I'm such a fan of the tyrant he is because I'm a tyrant myself. So to see it done at the highest levels, like without a funk giving like he's the stingiest motherfucker ever because he genuinely doesn't give a fuck, Like he won't give one fuck. He come out with that fucked up to pay at tire suit and be popping it

like he's the freshest nig out on the scene. Oh yeah, his and his old lady be looking at me like she like he looked at her like you know, like his attitude is always like I never really thought he was like a racist. I thought he was like a mob boss. He always came across like a mob boss, like I'm not gonna explain nothing to you. Who are you. I remember the time he was with his old lady and and uh, I think he was supposed to hold the door. He even hold the dude. I just just like, bro,

this dude is like the real deal. He doesn't have time for that ship. It's like yo, walking the door, your arms work. But see not even that when we're talking about like, well he got money, So she stays, I wouldn't be surprised if one day she was like, yeah, I'm out, Well, there's already a proof of a proof of concept with that in the form of us first wife, who the media is sprinted to to get any sort of dirt on him. And she was like No, it's great.

She was a player. She's got nothing to winner of that years removed. But but I don't think he's just okay, that's fun to be a lie. I ain't got tell that lie. Um. I don't think he dogs her. I think she loves the fact he's a tyrant. Well that's that's what I'm saying. It depends on, like what was

the foundation of your marriage. If you like his money, you like his power, you like the fact that he come out with that trash to pay and he don't care about nobody, and that's attractive to you, then by all means open your own doors and live your life. Doesn't that kind of confident have to be attractive? Like it's like a rooster. It's like five in the morning, you know, everybody, Actually that's a great call because his

hair looks like the top of a rooster. And even the slightest of breezes, like like it's like a rooster. You're crawling at five in the morning. Like if you ever see a rooster crow, like at five four in the morning, it's the most confident thing you ever see. It's like they clear, they throat, they position themselves and they just like and they just let the whole fall arm know what it is, and then they just stepped

down like, yeah, I did that. I like that kind of confidence, and I think that you know what, But again, like, what's the foundation of why you got married? If you got married because you wanted a certain lifestyle, but then you're not so concerned about whether or not he's sweet to you or hold your hand or holds the umbrella over you. Some women don't care about that exactly, So

what's the basis? Whereas if you got married because you want a companion or you want to be in love with your best friend, but then you can keep all that money. What happens behind closed doors means more to me than your rooster crowing at five in the morning, Yeah for sure. But like it's it's also personality and compatibility. Like I feel like a lot of times women want the guy who's hard and soft simultaneously, Who's that's what this and that never turned off heavy and light women want.

I always say this marriage and theory should be like a fairis will. Somehow women want to turn it into a roller coaster. That's they like, that's what they do. I know, Glenna is true. Maybe you you want to do maybe not you. But women marriage should be like a fairest will should be like a don't say maybe not you. There's not a woman on earth that doesn't apply to it whatever in real life. So I'm gonna need you to be like roller coasters sense like roller coasters. No,

no more, I don't go old. Make this makes sense because marriage should be smooth and steady, consistent to monorail if not the fairest wi a fairest will. But because as you get older, right, that fairs will. So when you're a kid, right when you're a kid, the fairest will is like the greatest ride in the world when you're a little kid. Then when you kind of start coming into like you know, teenage and ship like that, that motherfucker is horrible. That it's the slowest ship in

the world. And then you become like your four flashed teenager you're young adult, that motherfucker is dreadful. You only find some solid cynic when you're like on a hot date for me and you got a girl, and you know that's when you're doing it. But it also so it gets boring as you go through all your adult years. But as you get older, you know, you start seeing like older people in the fifties and sixties, they own that motherfucker and it is the time of their life.

So I think that's how marriage. I think marriage starts off as it's super exciting because you like learning somebody right, and you just it's just this thing and you just keep it going and eventually it gets born. You know, you're like yeah, And for us, I think we look at it like that, so we just okay with it. Somehow women want to turn that motherfucker into a roller coaster. As you think that, we insert certain things to create

it's citement subconsciously in the form of problems. Yeah, subconsciously. There's a book that talks about that concept called The Big Leap. It talks about the idea of people having a hard time with stuff just being okay or just really being happy and sabotaging and creating scenarios and non certain type of issues and not happy content because happy is so personal, you mean, content like things are going good and women will be like, let me throw a

wrench in the mechanics. Is it fair to say that, like for men in a relationship, it's about the interpersonal relationship is for women in the relationship. It's about the lifestyle dynamic of the relationship, all right. So okay, so some of it has in my opinion, personal opinion, some of it has to do with everybody's attachment style, so there's four different types of attachment styles. And then some of it has to do with Masslow's hierarchy of needs. Right,

so your basic needs, food, clothing, shelter. Everybody has the basic need for it, and you can't go beyond that until your basic needs are met, Which is funny. I told Pete this is how like in our community, because we grew up so fragile and messed up in so many years of oppression fracturesses. The concept of saving twenty dollars a week to create true wealth in the long term doesn't even seem realistic because the basic needs are not. Mad. It's so hard, but go ahead, I'm sorry, but so

that's that's exactly it. Trying to make sure that I got like, I mean, you know, some hood stuff. It's like, all right, I got a car, but I don't have no gas money, and you can stay home and take care of my kids. So we're gonna piece up you know, you give me this, and then you give me that, and we're gonna piece up and we're gonna make it work. Right, So we're just trying to meet our basic food, clothing,

and shelter needs. If you grew up trying to meet those needs, when you get become of age, like saying your twenties, you try to enter into a relationship, you're still trying to meet those basic needs. So if I'm a woman and I'm trying to get my basic needs met, then yes, a man with money is going to seem appealing. Yes, it's like, oh my goodness, he gonna take care of me. He got this, he got that, And I'm like, okay, great,

I'm gonna gravitate towards him. So that might work for a period of time, but after a while, it's no longer going to be enough. It's no longer about just lifestyle as I started, because as you move up Maslow's hierarchy, self actualization comes a couple of levels up. So once we do stabilize, and I was like, well, wait, I need this, I need affection, I need companionship. But I didn't secure that I hear somebody that's gonna give me a house. They just added ship on the list, but

I didn't. I have some stuff, you know what I mean, Like just as a woman, it's like, oh, I didn't even think to look at that because I was still in crisis mode so much realize and then I wanted so much of that. I didn't realize that I needed the ship after that. That speaks to women's they're insatiable. That's not fair. It's true, it may not be fair. Factual women are insatiable. Was a strong word. But all right, sure,

that's that is a strong word. I have ran it a good Yeah, I have ran into too many situations where that is valid. I've never not mother, stepmother, grandmother, aunties, big home girls, one in the room, ever heard of a woman who didn't want something more at any given time. No, it's always something more, see something or something I think us we want something. Women want something more like. And I don't mean because it's not negative or positive, right,

it's just creation. Yeah, I mean, and I probably could figure out what it is, you know, based off of how we were created and purpose. But sure you did remember that. But okay, so but to that point, right, so would you agree that women consistently want something more.

I have a hard time with it being just women, Like we could have this conversation that we can focus on women, but the reality is it's men too, Like there, I've heard of plenty of men that have either left their wives or just not been content with the relationship because it's like, yo, like, let's grow this relationship, let's grow a business, let's take it to the next level. And she's like, I thought we were good, Like I married you because this is what you said you wanted,

So bet, this is what we're gonna live on. So I don't don't man has left for woman because he didn't want to start a business with her because he wanted to start Well, just I'm just using that as an example, but yes, that actual example has happened. I've heard of men being like, yo, she's not affectionate, Like dude, No, well, I mean that's something. Are those anomalous? What do you mean?

Are we attempting to just sidestep the reality of the conversation by pointing out anomalous occurrences and defining the rule by the exception. No, I wouldn't go as far as to say that, and that's fair to even ask that I wouldn't go as far as to say that, I just don't think I'm not in all women all men person just off top to begin with. So I'm never going to say like, yes, all women are like this.

But we mean so when we say, oh, right, were always referring to majority preponderance of I mean not not seven out of ten, because you start going into other things to figure out the other three. And then there's the anomally the bell curve, everything that sticks up above the first couple inches in the bell. That's what we're talking about. So back to the digress. Right, So as far as men how they see women, right, that's the thing, right, Um,

marriage should be like affair as well. Right, you enjoy it when you first get on it, then you haven't been on it long enough so it gets boring. Then you find moments that you enjoy about it. Then as you get older, you're glad you're on it. You won't even think about a roller coaster. I mean that's not even a possibility. At times you know you want to

abandon it. Um, So you're saying that you feel like men are always content, like once they get into a relationship, they're content um, if they're not emotionally stupid and getting into the relationship in the first place. There's a lot of men who are trying to get into a relationship to appease temporary void or whatever. So they get into a relationship because they just need a relationship, and when the dust cells, they figure out this wasn't the right one. Um.

And that's true both directions. But that's that's I don't I don't think that it's just women that all of a sudden want to roller coaster. I think men make that decision to That's what I was gonna say about attachment style, About your attachment style when you come into a relationship. There's four types of attachment healthy, avoidant, ambiguous, and anxious and so depending on But I don't think

manly Ferris wheels for roller coasters. You don't think men don't get into the relationship and realize, oh, I mean I'm involving and realizing that I just want so much more. It's like they go, fun, this isn't what I thought it was gonna be. I know what I want, This isn't it. And then and then they sneak off the roller coaster. The Ferris wheel and go ride a roller coaster and on the marriage side with the ferris wheel parallel. I think marriage the lifestyle should be something like, at

least as adults. I don't want to go sit on the ferris wheel by myself. I don't enjoy the ferris wheel by myself, but sitting on the ferris wheel with you makes it an enjoyable experience. So it's not quite so much about the ferris wheel as it is about the cooperative experience of the ferrest will where women need

the fucking experience and you're just there. I agree. What's funny is I said that like a great marriage is seven out of ten times is a woman trying to discover who she is and finding a man that's gonna hold the flashlight. And I know that sounds crazy because men become like women are are ever evolving, right, there always changing looks, right, They're always changing ideas. They want a marriage to be exciting. I think we know it's

not exciting. I don't think men demanded to be exciting, like and they may go find excitement, but the reality is their wife could never present the excitement that they're looking for because it's not really about excitement. It's about things that's missing in themselves. What's the what's the difference.

So you're saying that women are ever evolving and they're always looking for something else, right, So they're looking for their husband to shine the lights so that they can help them on their journey, whereas men like, Okay, I'm okay until I'm not okay, and then I'll go ride the roller coaster. Remember that the ferrest will is solid. So what's the difference? Well, I think uh, I just

say that's a great point. The difference is man. When men want something, it's like, Okay, I want something more. I'm gonna go get something more. Women go, I want something more, you go get me something more. Which one is, yeah, what what is that wrong? They both say, we're all saying that it depends on what the more is. I don't genuinely think men want something more. I'm saying like more,

not like more like another woman. I mean like no, I'm saying even in the sense of another woman, it's not something his wife is not doing right, That's not why he cheats. Like that was something man Lenna talked about. Men don't cheat because like if a man has convinced himself he's cheating because his wife is not giving him head. That's how he goes and get hit. That's not why he's cheating, right, It's it's something that's going on side your mind that makes you demand hit that you're not

addressing the same reasons you cheat on a woman. Excuse me, the same reasons you sleep with women single is the same reason you sleep with women married. Whatever that is. That doesn't change because you're married, it doesn't. That part doesn't change, But that don't change. You've already chosen affairs. Well,

you got problems within yourself. I think it's been you know, men cheat based off insecurities, and women forever have been sense of security for us, even though it's a false sense of security, except your old lady, but women, for the most part, it is a false instance security. Like every time you sleep, I got some ship. Right, look say look, look look, Peta. You ever noticed when you feel a knock down a new woman, right the first

time you ever had sex? Is this belief like you know when you wanted to it's this thing like I can't believe she's letting me. She can't feel you know this, She's not Fenna, let me do this, and why are you in the motherfucking pussy You're like, oh, I cannot believe she's letting me do this? And right, and that is like this feeling you get the first time you get something you want from a woman. Right, Not because my ship is different. Somebody wanted something from me. I

didn't even think about it. But the first time I wanted it, it was that feeling, right, And I noticed. I asked most dudes, and they feel that way. Even true, the first time that I had sex, the first time I had sex with each subsequent woman there after, no even then, it lasts even order. It just it goes from being long to shorter. You almost cannot believe she's going for this. No, pet like she she's supposed to go for this. I will wait. I will wait a

woman out til she dies. I'm not gonna go. I'm not gonna go make a pass at you. I'm gonna sit here and either go home or you cannot. But I'm not gonna be surprised when you come over here. It's not it's not a surprise, right, it's it's a it's so, Pete, you're white, so it may be a little different for you. It's always a sense of unworthiness. Maybe for me, I'll just speak for myself. It's always know what you're saying. Where he's like, that's probably way

more white men than black men. No, white guy's weak. It's a pussy buying large on the aggregate. It's like only fucking ship. I can't even though how I pulled the shut off, but you feel like that. But he's saying him personally. I see what he said. But because people's confidence is another Women have no game at all. There's no plan, there's no scheme, there's nothing. It's just happenstance.

And when it happens to work and there was enough alcohol but not too much alcohol that someone fell asleep, then it's just it's just fantastic. It's incredible. Everyone's surprised. People wake up, a share of themselves sticking out of windows. They don't know what is going on. By oh shit. So I'm saying though, right, it don't have nothing to do with the woman, like, it's not it's not something she's not giving you. You know, women women demand that

from a man. Yeah, I mean men, Well, I gotta partner, right, And he was mad as old lady wasn't sucking as dick anymore, right, And he was like hyped up about it. He was man, gee, this this won't suck my dick. You feel blah blah blah blah. And I'm like, bro, like, why is that so important to you? Well? She do it, and I like it. She used to do that, like it. I'm like, well, I mean what do you like about it? It feels good? Well, does pussy feel good? Yeah? But

it feels different. I'm like, what's the point of And I keep asking the questions and he gets so frustrated. He's like, man, with you, what's the point you're trying to make. I'm like, bro, it is something else upstairs in your mind that's convincing you why head is important? And I said, there's probably some issues. What you feeling like you don't have control over the situation or you're not dominating her? Man, that sounds crazy. Do you always

on some bullshit? And I'm like, I feel you. Yeah, I mean I know it sounds crazy, but it's true. Like, and you find men who find ways, right, because I've heard hormies who said they cheated on the old ladies. Well, I want the fuck her and ask, and she wouldn't let me, Bro, she probably shouldn't let you. Well, if she's mine, she's supposed to give me everything. That's not what that means, you know what I mean, That's not what that means, Champ, Like I feel you. But that's

only true in the reverse regarding finance exactly. But but I'm saying, I'm saying I think with men, right when when we go out and and and cheat, or when we're doing our stuff like that, I think it's because of something wrong with us. Men will lie convince themselves something is wrong with you to make themselves feel better. Really, there's nothing wrong with you. If a man says to a woman or you let yourself go because I've heard that you were married, you let yourself go, Bro, I

don't give a fuck. I ain't never seen a woman in my life who are not down. A couple of times that didn't come down a peg or two or three or four or five because you had had sex with her, or because she let herself go afterwards. No, because once you once you deflower them, right right, some of the lustrous lost on that avenue, like some of the secret is revealed, no matter how fire it is, it's still like it's always this look of superiority, like, yeah,

I had that. So when somebody is saying like, oh well maybe it's me, I genuinely believe if you show me somebody every every guy want to sleep with, it's somebody tired of sleeping with her. Genuinely, I think even that goes beyond just like adultery, right, Like, I think whatever your go to is, that's gonna be your go to. Like, I don't care how stressed out I've been, right, crack

ain't never been my go to. Right, So if that's part of something that's in your repertoire of what you're gonna do when you reach your peak, whether you stress because you're not getting what you want, or I feel good about something, so this is my go to. So some of it has to do we talked about it

a little while ago. Has some of it has to do with who you were before you got married, the discipline, the habits that you had before you got married, and what you allowed yourself to do if you allowed yourself to You know, when I get to a certain point, whether I feel bad or good, I dip out and I deal with a woman then that's just a part of what's in your repertoire, what you're capable of. M M. But that goes back YEA, that goes back to the same point I was saying. The person you are single

is the same person you are exactly. I mean, you evolved, I mean your woman can help you mature. But if you like fucking girl single, if that's your ship, you're probably gonna like that, Mary, or if you don't address. If you don't if your desire is to be in a long term anogamous relationship and you are out here doing a whole lot of stuff, then at some point, whether it's in the beginning of that relationship or before, you're gonna have to train yourself to be like I

can't engage in those behaviors. I have to make a conscious decision that if I want to be in a monogamous relationship with this person, then I need to address what has me out here on some polyamorous stuff. But I think you but that's the point. I think those are things you gotta fix as a single man, not

as a man in a relationship. If you just pop up today you give with somebody and try to address the issues It's like if you're smoking crack right and then you get a job, or you can't smoke crack and you didn't deal with crack before you got the job. If you didn't deal with smoking crack before you got the job, it's gonna be tough for the job to

be the reason you stopped smoking, Chris. Sometimes the reality is that sometimes you get that thing and you realize the value of it, and it's like, I didn't even realize I had this thing inside of me until I have something special that I valued. Like people say, hell, before you have kids, so you don't play out your trauma. We sometimes you don't even know what trauma you had until your child is looking back at you, reflecting your behavior in your face. Then you're like, oh my god,

I didn't even realize that. I was like that, let me go to my corner and address it. So in the perfect world, absolutely everybody would, you know, deal with their vices and their demons before they anchored themselves with somebody else. But we have to admit that their vices. And that's what I'm saying. Single, Well, what I'm saying is I agree with you. I'm saying that, and I think that there's times where you don't even really they don't even come up because it's dope to bust broads

the whole time. The man with the broads is the man. This is true. Women don't want to admit it, but they want to be with the man that every woman wants. They want to believe that he every woman wants him, but he only wants me. That's like the dumbest ship in the world to even concede. Yeah, I mean, like that's something they really believe, Like they can see that. They won't concede. Excuse me, they won't conceive that thought, like he and all the girls want him, but he

wants me. But then even that has to do with like what's what happened you know what I'm saying, Like in childhood, whether you had an absentee father or you know, abandonment. Yeah, like where did you fall in the birth order? All of that? So I now I gotta need to be chosen. So if he choose me over all of y'all, now I finally feel special. And that's dangerous because it may not. Yeah, so but so didn't by that same standard, then why

in our society? Well, and that would be the woman the chiefs because she needs something to that happens to stimulate feeling special. That happens to ye. But I'm gonna get another degree. But that's for me. It's like I'm meant to I find things. I'm gonna make me a song like. But I also was working on who I was us. I've been working on who I was as a single man for years. Like I've had a ton of opportunities to do like very ho radish things with

my friends, like I mean, like unbelievably shit. Like I've had some opportunities. Man, when I tell you I've had opportunities to have five women at once, six women at once, it's girls who have got mad because I don't want to put Penis and aid Anes as girls who want to meet is. I know a girl who wanted me to nut in her hair and rub it in like shampoo, and that was probably the hardest thing to not do. I genuinely wanted to nut in her scalt because that's

what she wanted me to do. Like growing up, I wur hear right, the biggie just seem like an entrapment mechanism for a woman who needed new hair because that reeks of a pretty transparent scheme to me, We'll do a lot for three yo the right anyway. So she wants me to come in her hair and rub it in her skin. She wanted me to rub it in her skin. She wanted me to massage her scout with it like shampoo. She told me this, I swear was that arogenus or was that like like a conditioner that

we just don't know about. I don't know, but it was so powerful. And that's the thing, like, because my natural being is so tyrannical, Like I am very much a tyrant, so I know it. So I checked myself on moments where too much power is come in my way because I already know the kind of ruler I am, and I would be with more power, so I reject power out a lot of it. I'd be like, yo, no, like no, I'm not gonna nott. And she was like, yo, nott in my face, rub it like lotion. I want

you to rub it into my pores. I swear on Olivia, this has happened to me. Rub it in my scalp like shampoo. That was turning her on. And I was like, yo, that's too much. No one man should have all this power and I and I so I For years, I've always rejected things that came across way too dominant and powerful because I'm going to run it into the ground. But that takes a high level of self awareness that a lot of people don't operate with. No, I get it.

I agree, and and and and and it's not something I think I'm proud of as much as I'm grateful because it gives me a chance to control myself and it's let me like I noticed probably a like, yo, you kind of have a really different attitude, you know what I mean. So you gotta be careful when these women trying to because they will make you feel entirely too powerful with no intentions to be the person who

who permanently want you to rule over them. Like they'll be like they'll give you a whip and then call the police. Want you hit them with it because they may think they want this, but they don't want this. They just want to feel they think this is what you want. I mean, don't get me wrong, it is some women that want you to do that. I'm just saying. They'll still call the police. Are here some of them

for sure. One I mean some women like, yeah, you could do some ship to them and they're like, yes, this is I'm back for more. You mean, but you also got to know something's up with them, Like that ship really kind of made me look at her and feel different, like like damn, like you want me to nut in your hair and massage it into your scalp like shampoo. That was like deep. I mean, I thought the five sums or the six sums was something I thought. A girl telling me like, oh man, well fuck me

in the ass was something I thought. A girl trying to give me her sister with something I thought, A man trying to give me his wife was something. I thought. All of these things, like I've had some ship happened to me in his music ship because of fame and having you know, uh an extra sense of economics than the most average person. You feel me, opportunities have been presented to me. Like I've had a girl who said, like, yo, she like she worked that subway and she wanted to

give me head in subway on her lunch break. She was working there by herself, her manager was going out to get lunch and she and I'm like, she's just like that was her thing. She wanted to give me head at subway in her subway uniform. And I just thought that was like I did that one. But I'm being honest, I ain't gonna lie. I know you love subway every time I go. I figured, hey, sponsors, we

got to replace course. So I got a question. So then with that kind of mentality, like and again it takes a high level of self awareness for you at you said five started catching yourself starting I just starting, yeah, and then you spent some time addressing it and like Okay, I can do this, but I can't do that. Like I could do the subway, but I can't do the

little conditioner here, Like I can't I can't do that. Right, So in terms of married men, what do they do, Like is it like okay, well I'm gonna tip out a little bit, but I'm not gonna I'm not gonna have a whole another family. Well, when we're talking about men that step out, and we're talking about adulters hands on a person they were single. If you didn't address the problem the first off, you have to believe it's a problem. And in our community it's not believed to

be a problem. Like we don't see it as a problem. We don't. We don't look at when you single meeting girls at the club knocking them down as a problem.

You're actually women, y'all get it tough, Like if women sleep with dudes every night at the club, as much as even y'all are cool to each other, your friend is gonna tell somebody else so she's a whole right if I like, if we walk in somewhere, if you right, and Mo and and somebody else walk into a spot and you whisper the moment I had ten of these dudes, MO is not going to envy you because she is your sister. She may say, for real, well how was they like? In her mind, she is thinking, my sister

is all too much. Even if she's trying to be damn with you, she's just going to be like, for the record, my sister would not say my sister would be like you what like? But I completely if I walked in somewhere and if it's me and Pete and we're sliving, so where me Pete saying I'm like I had tempty in yesterday, I'm the man. They're gonna buy me lunch that day. Lord knows if I walk up and hug them all like I'm like, I'm the King of Rancho Chuck a monk at that point, that is,

where's that? So I'm saying, I think it comes to dealing with it because even if somebody got beings of dollars and they can't keep their old lady, you know, obviously money can't keep no women. Obviously maybe they're not even I doubt them women even found out they cheated like that. I think it'd be tough to find out

Bill Gates's cheating. But in those specific situations because they were married for so long, even if there wasn't cheating, like, I'm still of the bundset that there's some other things going on in their relational dynamic that the cheating was just like, Okay, it can't be this is well this was something like Ship said, there's stuff going around about you know he was you know Epstein Island right here, I mean, and was he there was a a hot

text message that got leaked to a relative. They got leaked to the inquirer for some money, and they've probably been a like that text message couldn't compare to the text message I get, And he got beings of dollars. But I bet you she didn't tell him. Not in my scalp that rubbing it in like shampoo or conditioning. Well, I don't know. They'd be on some may on some other stuff. No, at best, somebody probably told bezos, like I put a fist up you. She definitely didn't tell him.

It was just simply an acknowledgement that it was happening. That was all yeah, like like that was so good last night, you know what I mean? Like, so at that level is different. So but even again just there's adultery, But then there's also the relational dynamics in the marriage. You know, why did you get married? What are your emotional needs? Like, you know, financial needs at that point with that kind of money, that's a whole different. Yeah, it ain't even that, you know, but what are your

emotional needs, Like how do you spend the holidays? How do you resolve arguments? Where do you sleep? Like we had a conversation earlier where Pete was like, I'm gonna need to sleep on this part of the bid and I'm sleeping in a separate address. Let's be clear, I'm not sleeping at the same fucking address as anybody. He's like, no, man, what we had? Man? I was coming, like I told you this, I was coming back from Vegas and girl want to see me. I said, I'll come, I'll want

to stay over. I'll stay over. I was like, I don't want to stay over because I don't want I want to sleep by myself. She says, I will sleep on the couch and you can sleep in my bed. I go, okay, then I will come over under those circumstances. I get in the bed. She gets in the bed. Of course, she was, don't bait and switch me, because I'll bait and switch back and leave at three in the morning like I did, got there two in the morning. Again.

Relational dynamics side point, though there's no relational dance. I don't relationship but for women where monogamy is very important. And then you get with a guy and want want to be with him, like we're in relationship with this guy, blah bla blah blah, and you know this guy runs through women by the dozen. But no, he wants to be with me. He's never gonna do that again. Why

is that so common? I can't tell how many one of my guy friends are in like the Thousand Club and they got some girl and they're engaged and then they go fux six girls and she finds out about it and its heartbroken. Like really your heart broken? What? What were your brain broken? The first six months? What happened? He could have not proposed there was He could have just stayed in these streets. He didn't have to get rid of illusion that he also wanted a monogamous relationship.

But that's another usually oppressed done to it. I don't think we ever say we want a monogamous relationship. I think we say we want you. Yeah, I want you, you want a monogamous relationship. She said I want you to come over. You said I want to sleep by myself,

and then it was bait and switch. So she could be interpreting I want you as I want you and only you in the context of a monogamous relationship, or she could be setting her boundary the same way that you did and to say, if you want me, this is the conditions that you can have me under the conditions of a monogamous relationship. If that don't work for you,

my guy, move around. I understand that. Like if this was like what's the metal of the man because you're now it not becomes a question not of definition but of deviation. So I want you, Okay, well you can have me, but it has to be on these terms. And then in the moment you think, okay, sure of course I can have you on these terms because I want you that bad, and you, as the person setting those terms, are gonna tell me the straight faced way you thought that this fucking guy was gonna hold that

water for longer than thirty seconds? Are you out of your mind? I get what you're saying in terms of like looking at his history, the quality of the man, so on and so forth. It's like when you go to get a loan for a car, they're like, let me look at your history. If you paid every car note and you you know, just scores a seven seventy, They're like, you know, you can have this car for zero point nine percent interest rate. You know we're saving.

You don't need to give us any money down. Women will give that same loan to a nigga with four thirty. That's I think the problem is with a lot of relationships is there isn't a fair concept of interest rates, because what would the interest rate be that the guy like okay, well, I mean this is high. I'll give you this card annual. What what would I have to give to you to make it so that when I'm late every single goddamn month without exception on that bill,

that you don't come and fucking report a car. That's fair. I mean this. There's a sense of responsibility on both sides, like being able to look at who you're selecting who you say you want to look at his track record and be like, okay, the likelihood And then do you have a certain level of self awareness? Have you gone to your corner and done the work on yourself before you try to say that you're not who you were you know, two years ago. But but it's never been

a problem to be who you were. The only time it becomes a problem is when somebody else wants you to be with them. Well no, no, no, no. What I'm saying is if we're looking at somebody's track record, right, like, say I'm dating to dude and he's been a holy entire time, but that's not what so not him being

in a relationship him. See, if you're not down a hundred braws and you're single, you're not a hope as we're not a whole ever, So I'm saying, because your credit score, he's saying, if you was, if you're Hugh Heffner, if it's your lifestyle, it's it's it's it is your and this person wants to be with you. It's nothing like, it's nothing wrong with him. He this is his natural feelings towards you. It's up to you to be like, Yo,

you're Hugh Hefner. That's that's what I'm saying. I'm saying, it's it's part of my responsibility to do my due diligence and to look at the reality of the person that I'm selecting. And the reality is, oh, he's Hugh Heffner, like he about that life. And so before I get into a relationship, it's doesn't have the likelihood of actually giving me the type of monogamy that I really want, right, Yes, And I have another question and when when you know, when we were talking about credit, I mean, if if

I have bad credit, I can get the car. I just gotta pay through the ears over it. So what then, what what's the where's the give and take exchange on risk? That was my the other half is there it's there's some level of accountability and responsibility on a woman on who she's selecting, But then there's also some level of

accountability on a man. If you know you who have hefner, Why are you dating somebody that wants, you know, to be in a monogamous place where she's not dating someone who wants to he's dating someone he wants to be with you. No, no no, But this is what I'm saying when you can frame it that way. But the reality is the one that you chose, like you if you got you got seven kids, but you're trying to buy

a miyata like you. It's it's partly on you. If you know that you're not about that one person for the rest of your life, or for even for six

months life, why are you entertaining her? Why don't you just go out to the pool of women that are open to polyamorous relationships and live your best life because you don't want them, But you hear you're not hearing it, like if you want to live like that, you want to be able to have the freedom and move like So for example, you know, if you think men, don't think that way. When you think men, I think they're gonna stop smoking the crack when you get the job.

I want this job so bad because I'm gonna change my whole life. I'm gonna change my life. I think they think that for a minute, and I think the rest of the time they think, yeah, I want her, and yeah she's not this way. But and then some sort of rationalization or they think I want her and they see her as something that she's not, And the reality is it's like I love this, this, this about you.

I need you to be all of these things. I like this, this and this so damn much that I just think it's my own head now irrationally that you are all of those things. I'm gonna turn a blind eye to what you're not so that I can put on rose colored glasses and make it look like what I need you to be. So that's what I'm I'm saying. There's equal accountability, Like, Okay, don't expect him to be something that he's not, but stop expecting her to be something.

You knew that she wanted you to sleep in a bed when you went over there, you thought maybe she was gonna sleep, but I sleeping on the couch at my own You knew what she wanted. No, because she knows me, and she knows I don't sunk around, but you know me, she still tried it. She's still trying. She still trying. She woke up when the sun came up in an empty apartment. I'm not disagreeing. I'm saying you have the accountability for even going over there because

you know what she wants exactly. Why are you dealing with a woman I want to curl up in the bed. Why don't you just look for another woman that's going to kick you out with? That might be your dream woman. Listen, I'm trying to told you you get to that last point. She's alright, now, what you're about to do, no way. I'm gathering my clothes. I think that might be your dream woman, A woman you meet I want. I want to skip the relationships and go straight into the marriage.

And I don't want to be in a regular marriage. I want to skip girlfriend, fiance, and wife and go straight to a strange wife. Oh my god,