1881 - "Cow Cartel"

I'm sorry. I'm going to stop talking. Adam Curry. John C. Dvorak. It's Sunday, June 28th, 2026. This is your award-winning Get My Nation Media assassination episode 1881. This is no agenda. and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in Region number six in the morning, everybody. Northern Silicon Valley where the Democrat Socialists haven't taken over yet. I'm John C. Dvorak. VOD and Buzz That's amazing. The whole Sunday shows were filled with people

talking about it. It is great. Yeah, it is great. And before we do that, how was the meetup? The meetup was fair. Fair? It was about 20 people. It wasn't that many. Oh. But we had the, there was the regulars and, uh... Uh... It was a good meetup. Well, I'll tell you that, um... People should tag No Agenda Show on their Instagram pictures. This is what you do. This is how you... Oh yeah, well, I think that's good advice. This is what you do. Tina said,

hey! Hey, John had a meetup. Look at that. Because she's on Instagram and it showed up for her. So you're... your evil or Jay's evil plan is working. The Instagram, we're going viral with the Insta. You know, I was thinking about these meetups. We've been doing meetups for how many years now? Ever since it actually began with you and the Hot Pockets tour. Right. Oh, wow. So that was 2000. Dying, I want to say. Yeah, 2000. And then it gravitated toward the trailer that you couldn't

write off. Well, I tried, and that didn't end well for me. But since then, you know, we had, we were using, we were using meetups. even for a little while and people hated it. Yes, we were for a very short time. People hated it and then Sir Daniel came in. And then all of a sudden they wanted us to pay. Oh, yeah. Yeah, right. We're not going to pay for a scheduling website. And then Sir Daniel stepped up and said, hold my beer. And he made

noagendameetups.com. I was thinking, because at first the meetups were you and I attended, and then people started doing meetups where we weren't there, so they had our heads on sticks. I don't see as many heads on sticks anymore as we used to. No, I haven't seen a head on stick for a couple of years. Yeah, so that's

over. The heads on sticks are over. And it's. global phenomenon we had meet up in Ukraine we just had one in Berlin we have them in Japan we have them in Australia we have them in Brazil we have them in the Netherlands the UK not many in France actually There's the one with the Gardere. Yes, Baroness Isabelle, yeah. Um... Pastor Brian had a message this morning about loneliness. Despite our hyper-connected world, 57% of Americans are lonely,

and it's a majority of men. Now, his obvious message is that, you know, with Jesus, you don't have to be lonely. But I was thinking, what an important... The important thing these meetups are, because I was just looking at the picture of you and your people there at the meetup. And this is a very disparate group. These are people probably don't visit the same bars normally or the same... you know, hangouts. And some people may never get out of the house or just think, you know,

like, or can't find people to hang out with. I think these meetups, everybody knows that you can come to the meetup and you're going to have one thing in common. It doesn't matter what. angle you approach it from or what you think about politics or the world or life we have you have something in common it's like oh we all uh we all have our amygdalas in check and we just want to hang out and have have a drink and chat And I think we are actually combating loneliness in the world. So I want to

up the ante on these things. All right, all right, here we go. Guests. Bring a guest? I'm going to have Brunetti come to one of the meetups. He's going to be the celebrity guest. Oh, celebrity guest. Oh, that's a good one. We've had a fair amount of celebrities throughout the years. Yeah, but they're not celebrity guests. But he's not really a... celebrity guest because he listens to the show. He's a producer, although only an associate executive

producer. No, he's been executive producer. Don't get him mad. He won't do the gig. He won't do the gig. Does he have a rider? I'm not doing the gig. If Adam keeps insulting me. Come to think of it, he hasn't called me in a while. I'm a little worried about that. Probably for good reason. Yes. So I think then you get the Mercy Me guys. Oh, yeah. We've got Jackie Green up here in Sacramento. He should

come down. I mean, there are people. uh we have celebrities we can use as shills we have celebrities we have celebrities we should be using people that come to the meetup we needed an extra gimmick though what do you mean extra gimmick for the well some sort of thing like a certificate that you came to the meetup or you know just something Just something a little extra. I don't know. Wait a minute. It's like the sticker guy who always comes to our Albany meetup and he's

always dropping off stickers. Hey, the no agenda shop, no agenda sticker club. That's a good deal. Well, they're making some terrific... Their stickers are... I'll have those. this world. They're fabulous. And of course they're, you know, they're derived from no agenda art generator, but the one I got the, like the, the legal tender I got in the mail the other day. And some other ones. It's good. And they're the perfect size for sticking anywhere. You just

stick them up on stuff. Stick them. Stick them everywhere. People like, oh, that's. a pretty near toll booths. That's my recommendation. As you're driving through with your easy pass. You can do it. Well, if you get an easy pass, it's not going to do much good there. So what is the gimmick then when we have our celebrity appearances at the meetups? I don't know. We have to start thinking about it. Okay. The most emailed response. to this podcast? Is it about Iran? Is it about the

war? Is it about the economy? Is it about the midterms? No! The most response I have received this week, I don't know about you, because it's hard to spell Dvorak. is Mahjong. Well, that's interesting. One of our dames, or dame in waiting, she's not quite yet, who was at the meetup, had from the 70s a Ma, because I guess in the 70s, Ma Zhang had a moment of popularity, and she had a Ma Zhang necklace. that she had gotten in the 70s in New York. Wow,

that's great. She said, what do you think this is? And she shows it, and I said, that's a Mahjong tile. I know that much. Of all of them, I got so many different emails. This is from Sarah in Brentwood, Tennessee. ITM Adam and John, Mahjong Mania has indeed... taken hold with the suburban ladies of America. My neighborhood friends in the 40-plus club paid to learn from a pro two years ago, and it's become our favorite girls' night in activity. It's not just a silly game for

bored women. It's a booming industry. There are countless companies that sell designer tiles. Oh, here's, how about a no agenda Mahjong set? I'm thinking of something here. Design, the average for these designer tiles, $500 a set. Whoa. Two of my good friends have ten sets each. They are the most enthusiastic collectors of our group. You can find tiles to match any aesthetic. any hobby or a session or podcast. I added that. One of our girls is a diehard Swifty. Hook her up with Darren. And she

bought the Taylor tiles? What? that tailor tiles for around $500. My friend who loves Jesus and America has a native. Thank you. to design a no agenda mahjong set exit strategy where is this person from at Brentwood Tennessee Yeah. Again, this is one of the advantages of living in California. This is not out here. No, you guys

are boring. We've got cool stuff. Oh yeah, there's nothing more exciting than a night in maw- John don't know i mean oh yeah now you're right i don't know don't knock it i mean we still play baccarat pinochles it was the thing the one that got me last show pinochle i still don't know i don't know is that a card game i don't even know I think it's potato chips. I'm not sure what you play it with. It's a pinochle with a shuffleboard on the wall. I have no idea. I never understood it. Anyway, let's

get back to the communism because that is fantastic. It's so funny. and the defense by some. uh is yeah i have a thesis when we're done I like that. I'll kick it off. I know you have a couple of clips here, so let me kick it off. Just a couple. This is Senator Tim Kaine. This is from this morning on Spank the Nation. And he was just aghast about how stupid Trump's comments were. Senator, I want to ask you a little bit about what's happening. here

at home. There were three far left candidates handpicked by New York City Mayor Mamdani who won last week over more centrist candidates. Some are looking at that and saying the reach of the left wing of your party seems to be expanding. And here is what President Trump said. Take a listen. It's becoming a communist party. These are not social democrats. These are hardcore godless communists. They're godless communists. All communists are godless. They don't believe in God.

This is the most serious threat to our country since its existence. What do you make of that attack here? And do you have concerns that the progressive platform of some members of the party will make it more difficult to win in other parts of the country headed into November? Margaret, what the president said is just... goofy word salad. I'm not an expert on New York House races. I am an expert on Senate races. And we have

got Senate candidates all over this country. working to flip red seats blue by focusing on the president's mismanagement of the American economy. Families are suffering cost increases because of... Chaotic tariffs, illegal war, and focus on goofy things like ballrooms, arches, and the reflecting pool. I don't know if this is a new term they're trying to launch, goofy. I mean, it used to be weird. That was a pretty good one, even according to Scott Adams. Rest in

peace. Goofy may be a new term. trying to launch it's possible i mean the idea of calling what trump said word salad to try to deflect from the usage for that of that phrase i mean i aimed at certain democrats it is it is i think a very good characterization of communism They are godless. Am I wrong? Well, Marxism technically rejects religion. Right. Yeah, because the state should be the religion. Yeah, yeah. So it wasn't goofy, and it wasn't an attack. Well, I know what he's

talking about. It wasn't an attack. But ABC. this week, they had the man himself on. They had Mum Donnie on. and discuss this. And this might flow nicely into your clips, I think, because I think I know what you have, because I actually was going to clip it, but I saw you come in with it, so I figured I wouldn't do it. Here he is, the Muslim mayor of New York. And you're hearing some not just

dismissive, though. There's resentment. And this is from fellow Democrats who think that this could jeopardize Democratic chances in the fall. I mean, you've got Josh Gottheimer, a Democratic member of Congress, says, many of us believe, as do I, if you're a socialist, you are not a Democrat. And in fact, they They put out a manifesto today. Have you seen this thing? Sounds pretty socialist to me. Hold on. Wow. There's an irony. Yes. Yeah, manifesto, which is

always, you know, that's a communist idea. Either that or you're a mass murderer or you killed Charlie Kirk, one or the other. Yeah, yeah, it's true, yeah. It's a bad idea. Yeah. Manifestos. Usually not seen as a good thing. Unabomber. You know, all these kinds of... Although the Unabomber's manifesto was more like a... a guidebook for the future. And in fact, they put out a manifesto today. Have you seen this thing? Sounds pretty socialist to me.

It's not a communist manifesto, it's a moderate manifesto. Moderate manifesto, really? Saying, we are capitalist, not socialist. We believe in a growing, fair, and competitive economy. Entrepreneurship, ownership. I mean, this is a direct response, they've made it clear, to what you did here on Tuesday. Well, I mean, you know, that's great, but what's a party if not its voters? And I'm proud to sit in front of

you as... The mayor of our city having received more than a million votes a little over, a little less than a year ago. And when we're talking about these incredible congressional candidates, they won their races and they won their races with a vision of what politics should be and one that actually speaks to working people. And for a lot of people who ask themselves, what does democratic socialism mean? And you can tell them the answer at

a theoretical level. It's the choice to extend democracy from the ballot box the rest of their lives. But in terms of what it means over these last seven months, we've seen a city with democratic socialist principles at the heart of it within our administration. And what we've delivered has been record lows when it comes to murders and shootings. There's no one left. That's why it's record low. Everyone's leaving New York. And the rest, they're soy boys

and girls. So is it pragmatic democratic socialism? I think democratic socialism at the heart is pragmatic. Because if we cannot deliver for working people, then what is this for? I'm not interested in writing a manifesto or frankly in reading one. I'm interested in delivering. And that's exactly what we've been showing. But they're saying that if you're a socialist, you're not a Democrat. I mean, there's a room in the party. for both of these views. Yes, here

I am. And here are so many more. And I think what makes our party a beautiful party is the fact that it's a big tent. That we have people...

But you've also said it has to be a party with a... spine with a backbone yes even a tent has to stay up yes so you know does it have to stay firmly for these ideas that you're talking about that others are calling dangerous i think it has to stand for working people and i think it has to be willing to fight for working people and i think that there are fight working people these are uh liberal white women who are offended by the prospect of a party that knows who it fights for and goes

every day to work for that because what we've seen over many years is a willingness to not only explain away the status quo but frankly even to look to benefit from the status quo and that's not what working people are looking for from our party. It's so disappointing when I hear this interview with ABC, like not even getting to the core of the policy, who pays for what, how do you do this rent freeze, how does it work economically? It's just like, this is the word

salad. So there was also a take, it's not just Democrats, you've probably heard what President Trump had to say about you and about the candidates you supported. And he warned that if socialists win, and he calls you communists, but you will start living in squalor. There'll be no food, no housing, no military, no law and order. There'll be nothing. And he had a few other choice words. By the way, he also said he still likes you.

But what do you make of what he, I mean, the Republicans are gonna make you the poster child for the Democratic Party. Let them. We don't have to ask ourselves what life looks like if a socialist wins. I won last November. And over the course of these last six months, what we've delivered for working people are the very things we were told were impossible. We've delivered free childcare for two-year-olds for the first time in New York

City history. We've delivered tens of millions of dollars back to tenants who were taken advantage of by bad landlords. We've delivered 165,000 potholes being paid. And we've done all of these things while also delivering the lowest recorded crime in our city's history. That's what it looks like to have democratic socialism. And what you're seeing is that New Yorkers experienced this for six months and made the decision that they wanted to see more of it on the

national stage as well. I'm thinking if there's a democratic socialist in San Francisco and they... fix the potholes you might convert. So they have this situation which you run into a lot, which is crimes down. This reminds me of the D.C. situation where they just misreport. So you take your police department, you put them under someone's thumb and you say, no, no, no, this is not a crime. You don't report this. You don't report that. You leave this off the books. You leave that off the

books. They do that in Fredericksburg, too, for the tourists. No, no, that's not a crime. So it's a common way of lowering crime statistics, which is to lie. And it's been done in city after city and these guys love to do that. So that's bull crap. But the potholes, John. Yeah, the potholes, it was true. Yeah, is it true? Do you think it really closed the potholes? Well, I'm sure... I'd like to know how you get a hundred... What did he say? 160,000? What was the

number? I think it was 165,000. Hold on, let me see. Potholes? That many potholes? Holy moly. The first time in New York City. Who's doing the paving? Let me listen. We've delivered tens of millions of dollars back to tenants who were taken advantage of by bad landlords. We've delivered 165,000 potholes being paved. 165,000 potholes being paved. They delivered. That's a lot. That's a lot. Being patched is probably the right term. Well, paved over. patch. I think

that's a plus. That's one of your core issues. Yeah, it is. Well, for good reason. You ever hit a pothole? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, well, that old Lexus of yours doesn't do too well when it hits a pothole. No, it does fine, but it's just... Feel that in your teeth. It's not good. No. Did you want to play something here? Well, unless you have more. I do. I have a couple more. Yeah, play yours out, and then we'll play the analysis. This is from David Sachs. But let's play your

first and then we move toward analysis. All right, we have Senator Chris Murphy. also on Spank the Press. Let's first off start with your reaction to the latest primary results out of New York. You've heard President Trump say that these candidates aren't socialists. He's gone as far as to call them communists. As someone who identifies as a communist, Is this a moment of reckoning for establishment Democrats? I think you're going to have different candidates being nominated

in New York City and suburban Connecticut. This is a party that is also nominated and won with candidates like Abigail Spanberger and Mikey Sherrill. I want us to be a big tent party. I mean, I've been saying this for years. I think that it's actually a sign of a party that is alive and growing when there's a contest of ideas inside the party. So I'm not a democratic socialist, but I do believe that the Democratic Party has been historically way too timid in taking on corporate

power. I think our party should. have bigger ideas. I put one on the table last week, a $25 minimum wage. And I think we do have to have answers for the way in which corporations and billionaires are taking over and corrupting our politics. So I do think that there is somewhat of a trend that candidates who are confronting concentrated corporate power in a meaningful way are winning. And I think that that is something that the Democratic Party should pay attention to. This is not the right

message. This is the wrong message. Israel is taking over our government. It's not the billionaires. Come on, it's AIPAC. We all know it's AIPAC. This... kind of softening up these guys, like what you heard, which is kind of what the Democrat Socialist message is, corporations are bad. Yeah. And they should be nationalized. This would get, I don't have the clip, but Gavin Newsom, unless you have it.

Oh, I do have it, yeah. Gavin Newsom basically came out. He didn't say it, but he's such a weenie that he saw what was going on. He said, this must be a trend. Because it's going in that direction. First you have Mondami, then you got these three guys. I'm jumping on board. And he gives a talk about how we should just a national billionaire's tax. It's time for a national billionaire's tax and a new. Social contract. I just got to pat ourselves on the back for

that transition. I'm sorry. Oh, you know, you do that too often. It was so slick. It was so slick. And you spiked the ball. I'm sorry. You constantly ruin these things. I know, I know. I ruined it. There's radio guys everywhere going, wow, that was awesome. And I ruined it. You're right. It's time for a national billionaire's tax and a new social contract. Think about this, just 10% of people, 10% of people in this country own

two-thirds of the wealth. A 30-year-old for the first time in American history is not doing better than his or her parents. That's a five-alarm fire. That's bullshit. It's not the first. Hold on. The first time in American history you're telling me that during the Great Depression that that situation didn't happen over and over? Why are you trying to get into history here? It makes no sense. He said for the first time in history. He's the one that used the word. A 30-year-old for the first time

in American history. is not doing better than his or her parents. That's a five alarm fire. American wages have stood still and the costs across the spectrum, cost of living, have skyrocketed. The system is fundamentally broken. The federal tax code, the corporate tax code, and the inheritance tax code. seem to be written for a different set. Oh, that was my favorite. The inheritance tax code. Take it away. Your children get nothing. Americans, it's time for an

economic reset. A true minimum tax. Great reset. A true minimum tax on billionaires that ensures the people at the very top pay at least the tax rate their own workers pay. We also should... And this tax-free lifestyle loan. This is the gimmick that allows the ultra... Wait a minute, wait a minute. Can I get a tax-free lifestyle? Am I doing something wrong here? Is there a way to get a tax-free lifestyle? I guess so, if you don't have enough money. Oh, I don't have enough money

to have a tax-free lifestyle. So he's going on about as if... as if these guys are paying no taxes and not contributing. I mean... Well, this is the same lame argument that you should be paying the same tax rate as your secretary. because they have capital gains or different tax structures, because they're not taking a salary. It's like, okay, okay. Tax-free lifestyle loan. This is the gimmick

that allows the ultra-wealthy to... By the way, the number of people that can pull that off is very low. Most billionaires are paying a lot of taxes, including Elon Musk. Yeah. Yeah, quite a bit of tax money. Borrow against their stock portfolios while reporting no taxable income. Well, yeah. permanent American aristocracy of inherited wealth. Time as well to return to the pre-2000s. Hold on a second. Oh,

yeah. Does this guy study history and realize that the third generation of most of these super wealthy people break the bank? They lose all the money? Yeah, on dumb stuff. On dumb stuff? Is it taken advantage of? Meanwhile, the third generation with rare exceptions, unless there's trusts and all kinds of safety things that are built in by the original guy. Yeah, they blow it all. They blow it all. They blow it all. And of course, this immediately affects farmers. You want to pass on your farm

to your kid. Yeah. Why would I do that? Right. You can't pass your farm off. My podcast. So it gets taken over by Cargill. I mean, is that what he wants? Cargill to own everything? I can't pass off my podcast and my daughter. I mean, this is horrible. Can you imagine Christina and Jay doing the podcast? Hello. Hi. Hi. Time as well to return to the pre-2017 corporate tax rates. And time to close those offshore loopholes once and for all. And as AI reshapes the country...

Hold on a second again. You just move the company to Ireland is what they do. They don't go offshore. in a half-baked manner when you jack it up back to 35% or 40% tax rate. You just say, just move the company. Take them right out of the USA. You get no taxes. Is that what you're looking for? Gavin Newsom is a handsome man. I'm going to vote for him. Pre-2017. He looks like Beavis. tax rates and time to close those offshore loopholes once and for all.

And as AI reshapes the country, every American should own a piece of the future it builds through a national public equity fund. This is the Bernie thing. Trickle-down economics? Yeah, this is what's happening. Yeah. He's caving into the stupid ideas because he thinks this is his route to the presidency. He may be the sucker when I do my analysis about what I think is going on. He may be the... Let's finish. 38 seconds. I'm sorry. I'm going to stop talking. ...trip builds to a national public

equity fund. Trickle-down economics, it's been a... Well, nearly 50 year experiment that has failed. Record corporate profits flowed into stock buybacks and executive compensation. It's time to stop pretending otherwise. We're nearing the 250th anniversary of this country's revolution.

The system the American founders built, well, was designed to prevent the concentration of power in a few hands what where in the constitution was that put What constitutional amendment or what bill of rights, where is it that we set it up to stop the concentration of wealth? Is that accurate? if it's in the Constitution, which is a small dog. I never noticed it. Is it in the fine print, Gavin? But we've allowed that concentration to happen anyway, slowly and in plain sight over the course of

decades and decades. But we can reverse it. We can reverse it together. It's time to democratize the American economy. our democracy. All right, so I might as well play the... The gaggle with the president, just to kind of close this out. President Trump, great night for democratic socialist candidates last night in the New York primaries they swept

and knocked out two incumbents. You're from New York. Why do you think it is that now the endorsement of Zoran Mamdani means more than the endorsement of Hakeem Jeffries. Well, they're going radical left. They're going, really, you know, you talk about the Democrat socialists. You talk, really, it's really communists. These people, I watched that woman last night. That's not a socialist. I know socialists. That's it. That

woman is a communist. And, you know, what they don't say is that I was 16 and 0 last night. But mine were a little more boring, a little more mainstream. They were Republican conservatives. But we were 16-0. And if you look over the last two and a half years, we're about 347 in... Just about all. That's pretty good. But nobody writes that. But he picked three. They won. They beat a guy named Dan Goldman, who's a loser. He was one of my prosecutors, one of my

many prosecutors that they used on me. Dan Goldman, not a good prosecutor, fortunately. But he's now looking for a job. I was very surprised to see, you know, because he's a pretty liberal guy. When they go more liberal than Dan Goldman, they're really into Never Never Land. And then the final question. Does this tell you that the Democratic Party's 2028 nominee will likely be or could likely be? A democratic socialist. Well, it should make it easier for

Republicans. Because most of the nation is composed of sane people. They don't want to... You know, if you look throughout history, go back thousands of years, you've always had socialism and communism by different names. It's never, ever worked. It's not going to work this time. It's never, ever worked. I don't think it actually has ever worked. It doesn't seem like that's ever paid out. It worked for a while. It works, of course. A couple of years

is great. People love it. Fantastic. So here's David Sack. He's on your favorite podcast. I saw this on the All In. Yeah, Sax was also the... The crypto czar and the AI czar. Yeah, it's very thoughtful. Yeah, it's thoughtful. And I thought this analysis was quite good. I mean, I think the choices of the future are going to be communism or if you want to call it socialism. of the Democrat Party or nationalism in the Republican Party. I mean, that is where we're headed. Those are

the two populist directions. But let's look at what these DSA candidates stand for. So let's look at what their platform is. They actually say they want to abolish the Senate. They want to abolish the carceral state. That means basically police forces and prisons. They want to abolish ICE and grant amnesty for all. They do not support any deportations whatsoever. And I should say, while he's doing this, they have a picture of the manifesto on the screen.

where this is he's reading it almost verbatim from there one-page manifesto. They want to replace the president and Supreme Court with an executive and judiciary that is chosen by and subordinate to Congress, which basically now I guess this means this House. And with respect to House elections, they want to abolish the Electoral College. They want to replace the two-party system with a multi-party democracy. and they want

to expand the House of Representatives implement. Proportionate representation and ranked choice voting in all elections. So this would be a total makeover of our constitutional system. They want to free Palestine. They want public ownership of major corporations. They want to defund the Department of War. This is a very radical organization. And you would laugh at a lot of these types of proposals, but you can't really laugh at it anymore because these guys are taking over the

Democratic Party. And you can see the Democratic establishment is in complete panic right now because they have lost control of the party to Zoram Mamdani and his allies. That's the end of your clip. Well, it goes on. I cut it there for time. Yeah, that's the outline of what they're up to. And here's kind of his analysis of where this is headed. Take this one race here, New York 13. You've got this ally of Hakeem Jeffries.

longtime incumbent congressman, Espelot, I guess is his name. He is the chair of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, and he was defeated by an unemployed. 32-year-old PhD candidate. She's never had a job. She's been in college for 10 years, I guess, writing this PhD thesis. And I think even by DSM, standard she might be kind of a lunatic so she has declared that she wants to end Western

civilization. She wants to eradicate Western civilization. She actually said she used the American flag as a napkin to clean her hands. She attended a rally one day after October 7th celebrating the slaughter of Israeli civilians. I mean, she's very... pro-Palestine, but even to the point of celebrating Israeli civilian deaths. She calls white women ugly colonizers. She's called for the complete defunding of the police and abolishing all

prisons and borders. Doesn't want a single deportation. Hates the police. Openly calls them pigs, or has on social media before. calls U.S. service members war criminals, and says the U.S. is a disgrace of a country. She's written favorably about communism and seizing the means of production. This is basically the new Democratic Party. It's going to be, even if the Democrats do take the House in November and Hakeem Jeffries becomes Speaker, this is going to prove to

be a huge headache for him. managing all these new DSA members because they do not actually see the traditional establishment wing of the Democratic Party as an ally. They see it as an obstacle. This is the DSA co-chair Josh Block said, we're using the Democratic Party as a ballot access vehicle. Oh my God. Not because we share its goals. We build our own organization, get elected under the Democratic label, caucus with Democrats when it's useful, and

push our own agenda from the inside. We see the Democratic establishment as an obstacle, not a home. Didn't that already fail with the squad? Wasn't that exactly what the squad tried to do? Well, that were justice Democrats, if you recall. They became DSA, but they were originally just as Democrats. No, AOC was always DSA. She was recruited and trained by DSA. I thought she was a justice Democrat at first. I'd have to look it up. I'm pretty sure. Well, this is to me as a CIA

op. Ha ha ha. You know what? The thing is, this is not what is going to matter in elections. Well, let me do my analysis. Do your analysis, please. Because the CIA op, and this was indicated because of that Stefanik, not Stefanik, but this. That woman that's in, the CIA woman that's in Michigan. Do we have a clip? Do we have a clip? No, I don't have a clip of her. But she kind of sided with these guys. They're kind of pushing this. This is a mirror image of what happened in the 72 election. Ah,

here we go. History at work, ladies and gentlemen. you So during Nixon got into office. Wait, wait, stop, stop, stop. Where do you do this analysis? I just have to point out that there is a whole side Nixon thing going on right now with J.D. Vance. So that is interesting. That may be a signaling. Pardon me. Part of the signal or part of the signaling? Signaling. Okay. All right. And so we had the CIA guy. Let's say the CIA did what? Ron Paul said, which is

they took over the country. And so they were the ones responsible for Nixon getting in in '68 because Hubert Humphrey should have won. um He's a good guy. Everyone hated Nixon, but somehow he gets in. So they help him get in. So he gets in in 68, and he is running in 72. He's not finishing the war like he's supposed to in the way he's supposed to. Something's up. He was a good guy. Wrong. An anti-war movement begins with Gene McCarthy. And he gets things started.

He's going to be the candidate. I got to meet him. He was at Cal Berkeley giving a speech, and I talked to him afterwards. And some radical was yelling at him. He was very calm and collected. He didn't have a bunch of Secret Service. or anything is a really nice guy. And then he got pushed aside by Robert Kennedy because they saw that he was making headway. And we don't want that because the guy was, you know, sincere and he wasn't connected and who knows what.

So Kennedy gets in, but we don't want him either. We bump him off. So they shoot him. And R.F.K. Jr. still thinks it was a scam. Yeah. Who shot him. He's got his own theories. And okay, we'll go along with that. So he's out. And so they move in to stooge George McGovern, who I also met. He gave a speech at Berkeley, and I went and chatted with him for a while. And he was a really nice guy, and I voted for him. And George McGovern came in as the... Didn't they shoot McGovern too? No,

they didn't shoot McGovern. And so McGovern came in, but he was the patsy. He was too left-leaning and he was too, you know, he was anti-war, but not in a good way. He was just, it was a setup. And they put him in and he got annihilated by Nixon in 72. It was the biggest landslide in U.S. history to this date. And so, uh... That's kind of the setup they're doing this time. Now, what happened to Nixon was he started... being mean to the CIA, wouldn't

play ball, wanted to break him up. And they had all, you know, they'd already set him up with this, as we read in the book, Family of Secrets by Russ Baker, who outlines very carefully what happened to Nixon when it came to Watergate. The whole thing was a CIA operation. And it was set. sitting there waiting to be imp, waiting, it was done. It was a done deal. All they had to do was pull the trigger and then Nixon would be out because he wasn't playing

ball. And he wasn't. Okay. So he wasn't playing ball, so they pulled the trigger on him and get him out of there. All right. And so that was the whole thing. This could happen again. Which is, which is. Just as an aside, this is exactly what Vance is saying. Vance is saying the, he says they, but we all know what he means. They got Nixon out and that's what they tried to do with Trump in the

first term. This is the analogy he's making right now, which apparently just looking at the quad screen is starting to walk back a little bit. He said it. Yeah, I think that's true. But they didn't really do the same. The number they did on Nixon was... It was flawless. It was fantastic. Uh... And so actually it worked with him. He had the personality that he caved. Trump is his stronger personality. I think

he got through it. And they also, there's some thought that Trump was given the... the 2016 election by the CIA to begin with. And it was apparent that he wasn't going to play ball, so they make his life a little miserable. And then they rousted him in 2024. 2020 because Biden did that ridiculous election and they put the idiot in and so that Trump got back. But this is a setup to make sure that these Democrats, socialists are sidelined because we don't need the aggravation of

these people being too high up in government. So they're going to put a stooge who's going to run against either Vance or Rubio, and they're going to get annihilated. not to the extreme that McGovern did, but maybe, and that the whole thing is set up for that. And so this Democrat socialist thing, which is bogus, that election

in New York, there was only 10%. turn out it was all immigrants it was pathetic the whole thing is a setup to get some to get these guys to follow the bernie's this was in the newsletter too by the way you should have read that yes to sit to follow the bernie sanders idea that whereas you're not left enough so you got to go more left go completely radical, which is nonsense, and run some screwball. And it may be Newsom trying to worm his way into

this position to get killed. But whoever runs in 2028 against the Republicans is going to get wiped out. Now, how about this setup? Okay, so everyone at this moment. all the analysis only about the midterms. Right, but they're not looking ahead. The midterms, they're the lost cause. The midterms are a lost cause. The Republicans, there's no way they can hold the House. They maybe will hold the Senate because of the stupidity of that guy in Maine.

He's going to lose to Susan Collins. Susan Collins has a machine or something up there. She's just going to get in again. Well, so the playbook, as I see it, for the midterms is not a bunch of commies and socialists. The playbook is Muslim. That's what the Republicans are pushing, and they're pushing it hard. Because, you know, one of those DSA... uh candidates is uh muslim didn't the jewish guy like start doing the muslim prayer guy went to a muslim meetup I think the fix is

in on this. A producer sent me, you know, the Daily Wire, they have a podcast. It's the Morning Wire where you get your news. Yeah, I've never heard it. Oh, it's a decent, you know, it's like 18 minutes, 19 minutes. Gives you kind of an overview from their perspective. Of course, they're doing video. they should never have done. This is some nerd in like an over-lit studio. I have... It's just, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It annoys me. But at the very end... And this is the

audio of it. And so you can imagine the pictures. It's like. Twin Towers coming down. all kinds of horrific images. And I only heard the audio and I was like, wow, this is crazy. At the very end, it's like, you know. The Muslim takeover coming in 2027, or is it already here? 2027. Yeah. Did anybody do statistical analysis? Listen to this. We'll be back this evening. And this is at the very end of the podcast. Just for no reason, no tease or anything, this just pops

in. We'll be back this evening with more news you need to know. terror warning in Northern Virginia. Radical Islam has designs openly on the West. - Recorded a terror plot on New Year's Eve. - Violence attack over the Halloween weekend in Michigan. - Protests on college campuses showing no signs of stopping. you beheaded. Muslim Takeover 2027 or is it already here? Is that what it says? Yes!

And this is the Shapiro outfit, so you know that this is part of some Republican machine that is... that is doing this and that's going to be the play. It's like, you don't want these Muslims, they're going to kill you. That's the play. I'm telling you, that's the play. That's what they're going to do. Well, that's dumb. Yeah, but it's working. What, is it? Yeah, I think so. If you want to get people to the polls... Well, wait, listen. Well, hold on. Do you think it's

working enough that the Republicans can hold the House? I really haven't run the numbers, and to be honest, I really don't. I can tell you, no way. I really don't care. No way. Well, I'll take that bet for a buck. Two. Oh, you're trying to get your money back, huh? Yeah. Yeah, I'm down $2. I'm going back. I'm going for it. $2. Everybody write it down. Okay.

Bill Maher. caught on to uh what i said and what you questioned i i i'm presuming you kind of what did i question the tourists loving america here for the World Cup. Oh, yeah. I still question it. You said, well... I like it. I'm not saying... And I decide... I try to figure out what it is. I think it's the Chamber of Commerce. They're trying to get more European tourists. *laughs* No, man, it's real. I saw bullshit. It's you know, everybody's talking I got into a

Big argument at the dinner table. With everybody over this, because I was with Mimi on the phone. Yeah. And she's bought into it. JC's bought into it. Although he backed off a little bit. He's got his own. He listened to me, unlike the rest of them. And everyone else is all hook, line, and sinkers. Like they got a hook in their mouth and they're being dragged. dragged out of the water with a fishing pole. Really? This

is what you think? I've said my piece. You're the man who actually believes these whatever girls are that stupid. I got a great whatever girls clip for today. But you're telling me that this is not real. You're telling me. all these videos are not real. No, there's one or two. There's a couple that are real. They're all real. It's so obvious. Oh, please. From the man who posts Biden telling everyone to listen to the No Agenda show. Come on. Yeah, that's my point. Here is Meyer

with the setup. And finally, new rule, let's all give it up for soccer being the greatest sport. No, no. Not the game itself. That sucks. I mean, there's more scoring at a Star Trek convention. Good one. But I am loving that the World Cup has brought to our shores all these people who are doing Americans the service of reminding us just when we needed it on our big 250 birthday that actually this place is kind of

awesome. And, uh, yes, I know, how dare I, how privileged when there are so many problems and threats and people left behind. All true. I could give you the statistics where we are not good enough and have done so many times. Infant mortality rate, 54th in the world. Women in government, 85th, overdose deaths, lack of health insurance. Yes, many problems. But that's because the name of our country is America, not utopia. Okay, so good lead in, good lead in. And if anything, if this is any

kind of op, it's a brilliant move by Trump. It was like... this is going to be great. He saw it. He understands this is going to be great for America. And the result is not so much that tourists want to come to America. The result is that Americans feel good about their country for the first time. 20 years. Like, oh, you know, and hey. You're the Costco guy. You're the Europeans. Can you believe it? We go to this place called Costco that John C. Dvorak told

me. You get the best wine. Bordeaux for $2.99. You buy it in a case. It's fantastic. America is great. There actually are some good things about us. Even with all the ICE nonsense, we have more immigrants than the next four countries combined. We have to fight for it, but still have freedom of speech and assembly and trial by jury. And even if you're found guilty, you can still ask a Kardashian to get you a pardon. *laughter* Other countries struggle just to have water. Here,

we make it put on a show. In the desert, no less. We have drive-thrus for both church And sex toys. That's right. You can buy a dildo, then ask the Lord to forgive you for it without ever leaving your car. We have this Strongest intellectual property, the most innovative R&D, the highest GDP, the most valuable companies, and

the most trillionaire. *Dramatic music* Now look, maybe it's a coincidence, but I think it's something in the American system and character that we have the highest number of Nobel Prize winners. and invented the light bulb, the telephone, the smartphone, the airplane, personal computers, and the party-sized bag of extra flame and hot cheese. Plus, you can believe in whatever crazy religion you want here and... 24 states have legal weed and our pop stars can juggle knives. Happy

4th everybody! And that's what I thought was interesting is that he... You know, they call it the great American sleepover where your cousins were told you to never go visit your other cousins because the parents hate each other. But that's not really that's one result. which may be good for the Commerce Department, but the real result is this. People like Bill Maher, he's a negative guy on a lot of things in the country. He's a negative guy. Yeah. And so I think that that's a very

positive thing. Anytime Maura goes off on one of these tangents, yeah, of course it is. Yeah, so I think that's positive. Yeah, that's what you have to do. I like this. So let me just set the scene. So it's the dinner table. It's... JC, is his wife with him? Did y'all get together? Yeah, she is. I forget her name. Jesse. Jesse, I'm sorry. JC and Jesse. You've got Jay and Brandon. And Brennan. Brennan. Sorry. Brennan. - Thanks. I'll get back to him. I'm sorry, Brennan. He

says he calls me a deadbeat. No, no, no. That's your word. Don't you put that in my mouth. No, he knows better. Wait, he still doesn't have a job? What? Anyway. That's beyond the point, beside the point. And Mimi is on the speakerphone? Yeah. Now, is she eating dinner as well at the same time? No, she's just yakking about something. And it was like this came up in the conversation because somebody mentioned it. They said, "Oh, you know, what about these stupid videos?" And I didn't

say that. But they mentioned the videos and that just set me off. I had a deal with Adam on this and he won't buy into it either. No, no. Because I know people in Europe. It's such a phony deal. It's like walking down Broadway. No, I just disagree. It's not- these videos are not phony deals. You, when you get suckered. You're all in. Why do you think I'm getting suckered? What evidence do you have for this? There's no evidence. You're saying it's your commentary. You're falsely

claiming this without evidence. Yeah. The evidence is apparent. We don't need evidence. Now, on the flip side of patriotism...

The, uh... Freedom 250. Maul is not such a success. That's not the message I'm getting. Really? Yeah, we got some people who wrote in some boots on the ground. They didn't say it's a dog. No, it's not the crowd size for the president's speech. That's the only thing. I'm sure. Well, that's different. People I know here are either going just before the 4th or they're actually going on the 5th or the 6th. But you want to go on the 4th for the fireworks. I think you

would. I think you would. 800,000 shells? Bombs bursting in air. This is a... No. Then on July 4th, we will have the greatest... on the National Mall? Your favorite president will be speaking. So please show up. Because if we have two empty seats, you know what's going to happen? The fake news is going to say he didn't fill out the arena. I mean, he doth protest us so much. I can't do it! That's too much. He's not protesting. He's right. I was looking at today's headlines

on the phony baloney. You go to a web browser now, you get all these... Headlines are one of them. Are you using Edge? I use Firefox. Oh, okay. And

they've done it. now and it means it's over and so everyone is doing it did you crazy not to and so one of the headlines was Trump says nobody walked out of the speech but two people were seen leaving I mean he does protest is so much we're the problem he seems to be the problem When it comes to empty seats, clearly showing the vulnerability that this exposes, the lack of attendance, the lack of enthusiasm, and people walking out looking for non-political, I guess, most generous

description. Did you even talk to them? Acts. Yeah, I think, yeah, that's a good point. They're good at it. That's what they do, man. Yeah, I think this celebration would have been a lot better had Trump not made himself the center of it. But unfortunately with Donald Trump, he's incapable of doing that. I mean, he wants to be at the center of every bit of this. America 250 celebration. And last night, I think you saw how the crowd feels about that. As soon as he came

on, the crowd started to thin out. And I think come the 4th of July, because the fireworks are at the end, you might not see that as much. But last night, there was nothing to look forward to after Trump. So they got their pictures and they head for the gates. So there's a change at Ms. Now. Ms. Now. And... I think we already called this. They are going to do podcasts on their channel. And they have

a deal with Crooked Media. yeah you know it was pod save america and then the most interesting person from nicole what so They're literally going from the same dumb people. Now the same dumb people with headphones and a microphone in their face. And this is rampant. I see it on Bloomberg. I see it on BBC. I'm seeing it all over. And it's terrible. It's so fake. It's fake and terrible. Yeah. Baking Gay. It is exactly what it is. I wasn't going to say it. Yeah. What

is this? Cheap. It's cheap. What is it? Do you guys get some of those Logitech cams? I don't even know, I, you know. You use your own mic. No, no. You use your own mic. You get a mic. It's often, like Bloomberg, they're still doing it in the same set. BBC is at night. It's the BBC nighttime set. They just do less camera switching, and everyone's got cans on and a mic, and they're talking down, not

looking into the camera. not looking in the camera or you know at the at the other person you know the kind of looking down at the mic And I think that someone just say these podcasts man, this is the podcast is where it's at everybody and a podcast of course It's video. Just look at Joe Rogan. Look at we need that. We need Joe Rogan type success Let's bring the consultants in well, yes We, as you can tell from our LinkedIn profile, we are podcast consultants.

How many podcast consultants hit you up on LinkedIn? Lots. A lot of them. I get probably two or three a week. Yeah, I'm a pod. I can help you grow. There's either that or the SEO. But this is mostly pod. Oh, you know, we do this. We can get your numbers up. I can help you grow your show. Yeah, they help you grow. Grow your... Well, we got about a million listeners. You're going to do what?

Grow your show. And they said, well, you know, it's really about the style because a podcast, it's really, it's this... of video. It has nothing to do with our style of video. I don't know where this voice comes from, but that's what I imagine these people sound like. So that's what they're doing. That voice is, that's not your best. No, no, I can do better. I can do better. I mean, you can be more accurate. That's a funny voice, but it's not for these people, for

the consultant class. I've never spoken to one, so I couldn't really know. I think you've spoken to one, but you don't know it. My login for some reason on LinkedIn is like whenever I... Whenever I... So I... They want me to log in again. And I have my password. And they say, well, we haven't seen you in a while. We don't recognize this device. This is Omachi Arch Linux. So we need to confirm this with you. We're going to send you a code to adamatcurry.com. And the code comes six hours

later. And then I put the code in. This code has expired. Yeah, I love that. It's a loop that I can't seem to get out of. I don't know why. It just comes with it. It's happening on Instagram, too. Instagram suddenly worked again. I mean, that's one of our producers listening who fixed it. me there. I'm pretty sure. Yeah, we need someone, some producer that works at X. Yeah, that would be nice. So we can get

our, so we don't have a, we're not throttled. Let's see, we have a couple different places we can go.

I'd say, first of all, we have our first... A conviction? It's not the most satisfying one, but listen, we have a conviction of Mustache Man. Breaking news. Breaking news. National Security Advisor John Bolton just pleaded guilty in his classified documents case. Bolton was indicted last year on 18 counts related to his handling of sensitive... government information. Now prosecutors said he shared it with two relatives for possible

use in a book he was writing. As Mr. Bolton just admitted, he put our national security at grave risk in violation of the law. Our system of classified information is designed to protect... sensitive information that would jeopardize national security if mishandled. And the national defense information at issue in this case was classified at the highest classification. Classified! Classified! The Hill had a little longer report, which gave us some more detail. Well, before you play it. I

have the old Bolton. I'm glad you got that. Here it is. Wait, let me set it up. This was right after Trump got the Mar-a-Lago raid. Yep. Bolton got on all the shows, and this is what he said. Then he has committed very serious crimes. This is a devastating indictment. I speak here as an alumnus of the Justice Department myself because not only is it powerful, it's very narrowly tailored. They didn't throw everything up against the

wall to see what would stick. This really is a rifle shot, and I think it should be the end of Donald Trump's political career. Bye. Ha ha. He who digs a pit for another will fall in it himself, they say. Breaking news from the federal courthouse in Maryland. Former Trump National Security Advisor John Bolton has just pleaded guilty to a singular count of unlawfully retaining national defense

information. Prominent Trump foe has now admitted that after he left the White House during President Trump's first term, that he unlawfully kept diary-like entries about his day-to-day work. Specifically, John Bolton is pleading guilty to one of the 18 counts he was originally indicted on by a grand jury last fall. That indictment accused him of transmitting thousands of diary-like entries to two relatives in preparation for a potential

book. But John Bolton now avoiding those 17 counts by agreeing to plead guilty to a singular felony charge of retaining national defense information. As part of this deal, he's agreed to pay a roughly... $2 million fine. And now the question becomes, will he face prison time? This deal means that he could face up to five years in prison. But that's going to be a question for U.S. District Judge Theodore Chuang. He's the appointee of former President

Obama, who's assigned to oversee this case. And it is up to him to decide whether John Bolton will be able to face up to five years in prison. will ever be behind bars. He already has set that sentencing date. We are expecting John Bolton to come back into court to learn his punishment later this year on October 28th. But already, this is a major shift for the

prominent Trump foe and former national security advisor. When John Bolton was first charged, he had... claimed that he was a vindictive prosecution victim, part of a retribution campaign by the Trump administration. But today, in a federal courtroom, John Bolton now admitting to one of these charges. And as he entered that guilty plea, he told the judge, quote, when asked if he's guilty, I am your honor. I'm sorry for it. So this is a win. It's shallow.

It doesn't feel like a win. Like, who cares? Yeah, Bolton, I mean, it's good for the knowledge in the people because we always thought he was a creep. Yeah, totally. I still think he was a part of that fart club in New York, although we can never seem to agree on that. The Fart Sniffing Club, remember that? Yeah, it's just some creation of yours. Must be. But then we have... And there's a couple of victims of the Epstein files. We'll get to Starmer in a moment.

But Leon Black voluntarily came in to give his deposition. He has run Apollo Global Management. I think he's had some... some scandals or some stuff in the past, maybe unrelated. But this didn't go too well for Mr. Leon Black. Black testified before the House Oversight Committee today. Things broke down when Republicans and Democrats demanded answers about nondisclosure agreements with women in Epstein's orbit. some of whom now assert they were victims of Epstein's abuse. After Black ended

the interview, the committee issued two subpoenas. I have just issued two subpoenas to Mr. Black. One for all the NDAs that he is party to. and second for a deposition on July 16th. So this is a result of refusing to answer specific questions about the NDAs and the terms. We believe that information is vital to our investigation.

I will. Remind everyone that Mr. Black came in voluntarily, but they are... refusing to disclose that so i have issued the subpoena and we are handed it to him as we speak and this cannot be coincidence after the first ladies Uh... sudden statement where she said, hey, let these victims testify before Congress. It can be in enclosed committee. It doesn't have to be public. They will not be violating their NDAs when Congress requests that you disclose

that. Uh, so I feel like there's kind of no... coincidence here about these ndas because this is what it real boils really boils down to And, uh... And it's not looking good for Black. Black's attorney spoke to reporters after he left Capitol Hill. Mr. Black came here voluntarily to assist the committee. They made it premeditated. political decision to serve him with subpoenas after less than an hour of questioning and before they even asked a single question

about his legitimate payments to Epstein. I want to be clear, as Mr. Black said in his opening statement, he never abused a woman. He never was with an underage woman. He never engaged in sex trafficking. He never paid Epstein for access to women. He was never blackmailed by- Is this Truman Capote? Who is this? I don't even know if it's a man or a woman. Truman Capote. He never paid Epstein for access to women. I think it's a dude. He was never black. moved by Epstein.

Black said he never knew anything. He never did anything wrong. And he has no knowledge of any wrongdoing. He paid Epstein a lot of money. He paid a lot of money to others to conceal things and avoid further legal action. He never knew anything or did anything. Perhaps a subpoena and the threat of perjury before congress will shed more light on all this yeah maybe it will and then we have Another political victim of Fallout of the Epstein Files. Unfortunately, it's not in America. But Keir

Starmer, we must remember. That this all happened because of Mandelson. Mandelson was his guy. What do you mean, well? I think that report that came out about the $250,000. Raped girls in England didn't help much. Oh, no. Although no one is talking about it, that's some sort of screwy cover-up. Well, have you seen Citizen Vigilante? Oh my god. Yeah. Wow. If people don't want to watch it, just watch the last 15 minutes. Well, I started watching it. I'm like, holy crap. Go watch the last 15

minutes. No, I'm going to watch the whole thing. I'm halfway through. I'm just saying the last 15 minutes summarizes it. been marketed and this just came out of nowhere um elon musk post the whole video on yeah elon musk post the old video he's but no one they germans banned the movie screw him i'm gonna post it on x that's because he's got a elon's got a hard on for the eu because they keep trying to to cut X out of the picture. Well, the marketing

is phenomenal. The marketing is, they won't allow this to be seen, which there's no evidence of that. There's no evidence that it was foreboding anywhere. Well, we don't know. I mean, I'm not in Germany. Maybe one of our German listeners can tell us. And it's not even set in Germany. No, it just, no, it said. Well, where is it set? It seems, I'm not sure, I think Norway or Denmark. It's hard to tell. It's a little hard to tell. Not you mention it. It

starts off as Europe. Yeah, Europe. Yeah, like that innocuous Europe. So, yes. But it does it proves a couple of things It's a good idea for a story, but it also proves that Armie Hammer... Yes. Can't act. Well, he probably is terrible. I wonder if he financed it with some of the Arm and Hammer inheritance. I don't know. There's one name that's attached to it. I don't think it's him. Let's put it this way. This is not a Dana Brunetti production. It's bloody though. The acting

is not up to par. But it's bloody. It's extremely violent. The violence is off the chain. Anyway, here's Starmer giving it up. This week marks 10 years since Britain voted to... to leave the EU. It sounds like NPR is just so sad somehow. And in those 10 years, Britain has lived through six prime ministers, gearing up now for number seven. I was trying to remember when you took over the London beat, Lauren, like what prime minister were we on? We were on five, Rishi Sunak. He

was new. And now, so I've seen the end of Rishi Sunak's term, all of Keir Starmer's term. And you're telling me that these British tourists who are coming to the World Cup in America and see this nonsense going on in their own country, and they've been told that we have a horrible political system. It's no good. They're going through their sixth prime minister now. They know what's up. They know what's up before they came here. So that's insincere. That's why they say, hey, it's not that

bad in America. We don't have rape gangs. You know, in... In Florence. My nephew was robbed at the train station. By a bunch of immigrants. This is crazy! The 10th prime minister in 10 years, and that looks to be Andy Burnham. Who we're going to talk about in a second, but first. I want to take us all the way back. Andy Burnham, we've got to talk about this guy. He's another stooge. He's great. Many news cycles

ago, all the way back to Monday. The question my party is asking now is whether I am best placed to lead us into the next general election. I have heard the answer of my parliamentary party to that question. And I accept that answer with good grace. Grace. Every decision I've taken has been about putting the country I love first. Yes. That is why I will resign. as leader of the Labour Party. And here's President Trump. I don't know anything. I see that he was, I guess,

the mayor of a town. A town. He was extremely liberal. Extremely. So that means he probably won't open up the notes. You know, I gave Keir Starmer some pretty good advice. I said, open up. the North Sea. Go to Aberdeen, which was the hottest city in the whole continent. It was the oil city. It was the oil of Europe. And they closed everything. It was terrible. I saw it before my eyes, and I couldn't believe it. The North Sea is loaded. And here is the man

himself. Molly, what happens next? What do we know about a timetable for when exactly he steps down? Right, so while this was not a total surprise, what labor leaders and what many people in the country were waiting to hear is what would actually be the process. And he did lay that out in his speech. So we have a little bit of a timeline. Nominations for his replacement. other Labour leaders who could possibly take over. That will open up July 9th. Then there are two options based

on the British political system. So if there is only one candidate, Savannah, it will be an orderly transition, what British journalists are calling kind of a coronation. It will pass from Keir Starmer to the next person. And I know we're going to get to him. Andy Burnham is the runaway favorite. He is the former mayor of Manchester. He just won a parliament seat by a resounding margin on Friday. I'm sorry, I thought I had a clip

of him. Maybe it's this one. UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer has announced that he'll resign just two years after winning a landslide election victory. He becomes the sixth British Prime Minister in a decade to quit. extraordinary level of churn in a country long known for political stability. In an emotional statement here in Downing Street, Starmer said he accepted that the Labour Party no longer thinks he's the

right person to lead it. The party will now choose a new leader who will also become prime minister within weeks. Nominations open on the 9th of July, they close a week later, and... The new leader will be in office by September the 1st. It could also happen a lot quicker than that. The leading contender to replace Starmer is the ex-Greater Manchester Mayor, Andy Burnham, who last week won a special election for a seat in Parliament. Where is he? He expressed purpose of coming to London to

challenge Keir Starmer. There's enormous... I'm sorry, I thought I had a recording of him. I don't have it for some reason. I should mention something one analyst did on one of these foreign channels about... which mirrors my commentary about McGovern. And the 70s and Nixon, which was that the British Parliament and the British prime ministerships had gone

extremely left wing in the 70s, resulting. I think it was in 78 when Margaret Thatcher ended up, the Iron Lady took over as a conservative and they ran the government fairly for years after that. And this is supposed to be another iteration of that lefty, which is leftist, these guys. The Labor Party is... You know, they're against freedom of speech, they're for pro-immigration, open borders, all the same stuff that DSA is doing. And they're getting trounced.

And this is going to end up with some Thatcherite type character eventually. Civil war. Civil war. Civil war. Civil War. Civil War. We never see these so many times. wars everyone talks about. Well, okay. When you get those guys from the north all mad, you know, they come down and they start marching the streets with their pitchforks and their shovels and their torches. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's amazing how you hear Tommy Robinson. I hear people talking

about Tommy Robinson. Tommy Robinson, I heard one of his recent little presentations. He is quite good. Yeah, he is a criminal. He is a criminal, but he's really good. He's a he's a hater. He's far right hater, but he's really good. He's very good at what he does. And he's been over here in Texas telling everybody the Muslims are going to kill us all. No. Yes! Oh yeah. Tommy Robinson was in Texas? Oh yeah. When was this? I'd say maybe six weeks ago, two months ago.

Oh, he was on Laura's... He was on a Laura Logan show. He was here! I could have gone over and said hi! You should have gone over and said hi. They didn't tell me. I just saw it come through on my feed. Like, oh, Tommy was here. Okay. Yeah. He was going to churches everywhere, riling everybody up. Muslims are going to get you. You got maybe 18 months. 18 months. 18 months, look at us. 18 months, okay. Let me write this down. Yeah, that's what I

said. Yes, and yes, for those of you... wondering, Cecile the giraffe has been found. Cecile the giraffe is safe. We had a giraffe escape, but it wasn't really here. We have giraffes. here in Fredericksburg, but that wasn't one of our giraffes. No, it's just the local ladies, right? People here, Hill Country. Oh, that must be where Adam is. Hill Country is pretty big. Uvalde is Hill Country, and that's a four and a half hour drive. So, yeah, it was not here. But we do have giraffes.

Rand Paul not letting up on Fauci. We have two clear-cut cases against him, lying to Congress, which is a felony, but also destroying public records. We now have emails that he distributed to Francis Collins and others saying, hey, read this and then destroy it. That is against the law. You're not allowed to do that in the executive branch. It's clear. You know, his only argument is, oh, it wasn't about government. And it clearly was. And I think a jury would decide. So I still would prosecute

him. And I went digging for some. Yeah, good. By the way, since we've already determined that this whole covid because the MRNA and this. stuff from Robert Malone. And we played the clips and this is all a CIA deal. And the CIA, you know, came up with MRNA and they started Moderna. We know that it was done by the operation in Silicon Valley, one of the investment arms. And they can't admit they're wrong about it. They're

behind the whole. thing. They're behind the five. Fauci's never going to get prosecuted for anything because he was going along with it. And, you know, he played ball. And Rand Paul's going to get himself beat up by another neighbor if he keeps this up. Here is the analysis of whether this is actually possible or not, considering the pardon that he received from President Biden. Paul was on our show last. week and said Dr. Fauci's preemptive party.

from President Biden should be challenged in court. Take a listen to what he had to say. We've never had a pardon that's gone to court that was granted for an unspecified crime. So he's been pardoned for any crime he might have committed over a 10-year period. He's never been charged with a crime. So how do you pardon someone in advance? of a charge and for any crime they might be charged with over a 10-year period. So I think a court could look at this and say,

that's way too broad. If you didn't specifically pardon him for something, he's not pardoned. So I think it should be challenged in court, and I think it's worthwhile. But he's guilty of several felonies. of lying to Congress on gain of function, but he's also guilty of destroying records. That one's an open-shut case. So, Jonathan, from a legal standpoint, Senator Paul, I mean, he has a bit of a point there. There was no crime to be pardoned at the time. How strong is that argument that a

pardon this broad and unspecified could be challenged? Yeah, I think that he had a number of good points within there. Remember, the pardon only applies to federal offenses, not state offenses. So if any state offenses apply, that wouldn't cover him. But I think the point is sort of

this overly broad question. A pardon, typically he's right. It doesn't have to be something that's been charged or convicted, but it... usually has to be specified as I'm pardoning you for this crime or this cause course of action. So I think that's a problem. The secondary problem is there's the auto pen issue that we've all talked about, but for it's okay if it's signed by an auto pen, but the question is, did president Biden knowingly and

violent knowingly and intelligently. sign off or delegate this pardon. So that's a secondary question as well. But this is certainly a unique situation to have such a broad pardon. I think what ultimately helps Fauci is the courts typically are going to give a lot of deference to the federal, to the executive branch on these types of things, particularly for pardons that are... primarily that they are an

executive function. So even if the court doesn't believe that's too broad and believes that maybe not knowingly and voluntarily made, they still may not want to weigh into it. But my there's certainly legitimate questions. Can I, can I, here's a question for you. Blah, blah, blah. Yeah. Yeah. Here's a question for you. All right. They keep bringing this up. Yeah, he says the auto-panned. We don't know that Biden, he knew what he was doing. But hey.

Newsflash, Biden's still alive. Why doesn't somebody go over and ask him specifically? Hey, you know about this pardon? Did you know anything about it? Just show it to him and say, did you sign? What is this? You mean like from the news media or? I don't care. News media, Congress, one of Rand Paul's secretaries, anybody. They keep talking about, we don't know that boy. even knew he was signing a thing for fauci the guy's still alive

go ask him Well... It's not a bad idea. But that would kind of ruin the fun of doing a podcast. Well, no, it's maybe that one particular topic. speculate and... Yeah, speculate and shoot the shit. Shoot the shit a little bit. Blah, blah, blah. Get a close-up with my cans on my head. Yeah, that's what you do. You need those cans on your head. So the UFO

UAP thing is falling apart. That's just not going nowhere. Well, that's because the movie's over. The movie came out. It's a dud. It's a dud. Nobody likes it. It didn't happen. And now, this was NBC, so they caught up with the people who supposedly, from the New York Times, are responsible for the modern disclosure movement. What? Yeah, exactly. And here's an interview on NBC with him. This whole thing, and even when you hear them, you're like,

what? These people started this? I can tell you, we do know exactly where this whole modern day disclosure push started. It traces back to a very specific New York Times story. You might have read it where a reporter met... Two national security and Pentagon insiders ready to blow the whistle on secret programs the government had on UFOs. And guess what? We caught up with the three of them today at Congress. And this Pandora's box that we now see, this UAP disclosure push, it all started with

the three of you, right? I would say it started with the two of them and then they came to me. I would say it started with this guy. I'm not, I had nothing to do with it. There's your answer. Was there like a secret bench or was there a handoff? We met in a hotel. These people sound like morons. These are the people who started this? Are you serious? Well, a New York Times reporter found two

of these people. Yep. And started shooting the crap with them and then ended up with the story that started the whole thing. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And the whole thing was, I don't know. Yeah. The whole thing is, I don't know. Yeah, we were having lunch. Ugh. I said, I think we got some UFO doc somewhere. I don't know. Here's a couple more clips. Do you anticipate the release of some higher fidelity video that could completely put this issue to bed? So, first of all, it's not up

to me. But I will tell you, there are efforts behind the scenes. to do exactly that. That decision is not mine. But I think if you were to ask Chris or Leslie or myself, you know, there are efforts underway right now to try and compel some of these organizations to strip the metadata of some of these videos and provide them to the American people. The American people can see exactly what some of us have already been

exposed to in the past. The more sophisticated or the more compelling from our terms the video is, the harder it is to get it declassified. I'm not sure what this strip the metadata has to do with it. This is very odd. This is another thing they came up with. the Nancy Guthrie bullcrap. where these guys are trying to extract a bitcoin. They said, well, TMZ says to the guy, "Well, send us at least some pictures or something." And the guy says, "No, because the metadata will

make it so I'm identifiable." Well, the metadata is on there already. if they're going to give away this phone that was buried somewhere. Yeah, metadata, you can get rid of metadata. Almost any photo editor will take the metadata out. Right, but why does NASA or the Pentagon have to take away the metadata? I don't understand. Yeah, well, that's the other thing. What difference does it make? And here's the last one. It's usually just telling you what

you want to do. camera it was. Well, speaking of photos. A month ago during the second Tronch release, there were multiple files and videos released by NASA itself where they have pictures taken from the surface of the moon during the Apollo mission where they have taken pictures, photographs of some sort of anomalous activity above the surface. Now, what did NASA say following that release? They said it is quite possible that what we are seeing here are

actual things. These are not lens flare or anything like that. And keep in mind, if you look at that contextually to what we had orbiting the moon at that time, we had one thing only, and that was a lunar orbiter waiting to a rendezvous with the lunar lander. There were no satellites orbiting the moon back then. So, we now have photographs, we now have audio tapes of astronauts having conversations about something. The real question is, what

else do we have? Nothing. There's nothing. It was never anything. It's nothing. And everyone's disappointed. No one more disappointed than Sean Ryan. What do you think of Sean Ryan? I'm not quite sure what I think of this guy. I'm not even sure who he is. Do I know Sean Ryan? Your name rings a bell. Yeah. Is he a podcaster? Yes, he's a podcaster. Does he wear cans? No. Interestingly, no. He has like a lounge, like a man cave, and there's two big leather seats, and he's

bald, and he's supposedly a CIA... Consultant. military, one of these guys. And so he's, and sometimes it's like six-hour podcasts, which is too long for Sean Ryan. Oh, God, yeah. So he has physicist Brian Keating on, and Sean Ryan has had it with this. He's had it. He can't believe this is nothing. This is all bull crap. What do you think about all this alien stuff? You know, it's either the most exciting time to be alive or it's going to be the most depressing time to

be alive. You know, it's like, imagine you keep asking a girl out. She'll say, yeah, soon, soon I'll disclose my intentions to you. And, you know, you're just kind of waiting in the wings and you keep hearing things are going to happen. It's going to come out. Finally, we're going to know the truth. and the whole community is thinking about things and is excited about things. And then, I'm sorry to say, I've just been completely underwhelmed.

This last release by President Trump and Department of War, Pete Hegsa, I tore through that like a kid on Christmas morning or as soon as it came out. What did you find? I found, you know, really it's a nice round. number, I found like zero. I found zero that really interested me. And worse than that, I found things that were, you know, your background, you're used to dealing with kind of like psyops and a good friend, my friend Chad Hosh, he was, he was everybody is into psyops

by the way. So many people on podcasts now. Yes. I taught everyone how to do. psyops this is my job in the army is my dad did the cia i taught psyops and i'm here on your podcast in the psyops he was in u.s army served in iraq You know, they have exposure to things, right? They're going to prime you for certain things. I call these PSYOPs, S-C-I-OPs. because it sounds so outrageous. It titillates the mind, especially if you're a nerd like me. I want to

know about extra-dimensional beings. I want to know about non-humanoid biologics. And all I get to hear from people I respect, some people I've talked to, you know, I've got

the square root of your podcast. my size but i talk to a lot of same people you've had the opportunity and honor to talk to and it's always you know hyperventilating because he's on a podcast he's a physicist like trust me bro or i heard or somebody said this and i can't say that and in the military i completely understand it i understand you've seen things you've done things you're not going to be able to talk

about things. You're a scientist and you go on a show like my friend Stephen Bartlett's show and you get 10 million views and one night you say, well, I heard from somebody who heard from somebody and you're a physicist like the people that have come on recently on his show. It frustrates me because that's not the way science works. This is exactly what's going on on the podcast. Everyone, oh, I'm a physicist, but I'm on a big podcast. Oh, I get to go into a rogue

and talk about UFOs. And finally, finally, Sean Ryan is figuring out that this is bull crap, but he has the wrong angle. I used to think there was something to this alien shit. I really did. Now I don't. You know, I just don't. You know, I've interviewed. so many people about this. And I'm not talking about. Avi Loeb, but... You know, the thing is... Well, one thing that one red flag to me is you got all these all these people out there that are screaming disclosure.

We want disclosure. They're demanding it. But none of them are really working together. That's right. You know, and so, you know, behind closed doors, off camera, they're all talking shit about each other. Exactly. It's like, It's like, oh, you want disclosure, but only if you're the fucking one to disclose it, right? You don't want to work with anybody else, actually. Say what? You just swear constantly? Yeah, well, that's another point. You've got to do that on

your podcast. Otherwise, you know, if you don't have cans, you might as well be swearing. You know, figure this out. You just... You want to be the guy. That's what it is. Yeah, so that's like one thing. Another thing is I find the timing very odd of the release of all this shit. Now, we know why the timing of this was, right? Yeah, the Spielberg movie. Promote the movie. Exactly. We've been talking about this for, we've been doing this show almost 19 years. We've been talking

about this for 19 years. We've seen it over and over and over. It's always in conjunction with a movie. There's always a Hollywood entertainment product that comes with these stories. But that's not the Sean Ryan conclusion. the latest batch of the Alien conspiracy thing is, you know, stopped right at the height of the Epstein stuff in the Iran war. Whether you're for it or against it or whatever, it's very unpopular. You know what I mean? And so it's like, give them aliens. You know what I

mean? That's how I think about it now. I'm just like, this is fucking bullshit. Of course you drop it right now. Exactly. And so I think the timing alone is discrediting. Because it's about a movie, Sean. It's not about, oh, oh, Epstein files, give them aliens. Okay. That's, I mean, that's what CIA has developed in our country? These are the people who did COVID? Yeah, well. It's hard to think. Like I said, they don't ever admit they're wrong. Let's talk about Ebola, get these clips out

of the way. Ebola is still going on. They haven't done anything about it. And they finally found out why. Today I'm joined by NPR Global Health Report. Wait, you're going to have to... Okay, the problem I have, I have two problems here. One, it says NPR one, and there's just NPR? Yeah. Which one are you going to play? The one that just says NPR. Right. How long have we been working together, bro? I just was. fearful. And today I'm joined by NPR Global Health. And by

the way, Ebola spelled E dollar sign B-O-L-A. For what reason, I don't know. Today I'm joined by NPR Global Health reporter Jonathan Lambert. Hey, John. Hey, Gina. Hey, John. Hey, Gina. So you're here today to talk about the ongoing Ebola outbreak. Yeah. It's been just about the only thing I've covered over the past month and a half or so. The outbreak has gotten really big, really fast. It's already the third largest Ebola outbreak on record. That's

terrible. So, we're... The sincerity... All right, stop depressing. The sincerity is great. This is, besides sounding so scripted and corny... This is their science podcast, the NPRs. This is their science. This is a high-end, high-end science podcast. That's terrible. Besides it being, like, really terrible and stuff. It's terrible. It's really terrible. Third largest Ebola outbreak on record. That's terrible. So... you That's terrible. Oh, this is fantastic.

You know what? Right off the bat, I think you actually deserve a borderline for this. It's just so good. Even though you doctored it with some editing. You doctored it, but still, it's worth it. I didn't take it. He didn't take anything away from it. No, he didn't take anything away. That's terrible. So where did the numbers stand right now? As of now, there are over 1,000 confirmed cases and over 250 confirmed deaths, but the toll is likely much higher. Why is that? Why is that?

- What? What? Ebola kills people? Why is that? Fire. Why is that? Well, many cases and deaths are probably going uncounted. The outbreak is centered in a region of the Democratic Republic of Congo that's really remote and battered by a lot of ongoing conflict. I see how that could make responding to the outbreak. AI podcast? This sounds like one of those notebook LM things. That's terrible. I mean, it might as well be. I know it's terrible. I'm not going to argue the point of ongoing conflict.

I see how that could make responding to the outbreak a lot harder. Now, what has happened here? I think something else is going on that we have stumbled onto. These people are talking to their chat bot all day long. They're starting to talk like the chat bot. Mmm, that's terrible. I can see where that would be really bad. You might be right. There's something going on here. It's ongoing conflict. Mmm, I see how that could make responding to the outbreak a lot harder. Yeah, and the

virus got a head start. It was likely circulating for months before officials realized that it was. That's made it harder to... I am going to make an Ebola podcast with AI and the female voice will literally do that. Mmm. Yeah, I see what you mean. Ah, yeah. Officials realized that it was. That's made it harder to rein in, which is really worrisome for a disease that, on average, kills about half the people it infects. So do scientists have a sense of how bad it could get?

Well, the CDC projects that in the absence of robust... control measures, as many as 20,000 people could be sick by August. If it continues at that pace, it could rival the 2014 to 2016 Ebola outbreak in West Africa, which killed over 11,000 people. And there are concerns that it could spread more widely in the region. So today on the show, how this became one of the largest Ebola outbreaks in history and what has to happen to

treat patients and get it under control. Wow. And we'll spruce it up a little bit with some of our own bits here. Okay, so they get back and they get into the groove here. You can guess who they blame. Trump. For the whole thing. Trump, World Health Organization, we pulled out of the World Health Organization. Trump, you got it right the first time. You don't have to go any further. But let's go with the NPR one

clip. Although something I said. I was telling Tina last night in bed, I was saying, you know... A friend of mine, he went to have his heart checked out. And he asked him kind of on the, you know, like, hey, have you seen more people with heart issues ever since? COVID and the vaccine and the cardiologist goes, oh yeah, absolutely. It's a lot more. And he said, is that because of this? But it's not because of the vaccine. It's not because of the vaccine. Tina says,

what was it, climate change? I mean, my wife is good. She could do this podcast. She could inherit it with our daughters. Yeah. And today I'm joined by NPR global health reporter Jonathan Lambert. Hey, John. Hey, Gina. Hey, John. Hey, Gina. So you're here today to talk about the ongoing Ebola. Wait, is this a different one? Yeah. Sounds exactly the same. This is the exact same clip, John. Oh, is it okay? Oh, brother. Sorry, okay, go to clip three. Well, what is number two? The

number two is gone. We're going to number three. Because this is where they start to... They attribute blame. They attribute blame and it's going to go right to where everyone thinks. This is so much propaganda, it's sickening. But you need to say, SOT3, SOT3. What? That's what Megyn Kelly is. Sound on tape, SOT, SOT 3. You have to cue me. SOT3? Countries like DRC that experience a lot of Ebola outbreaks have really beefed up their surveillance

systems. For instance, they've built up lab infrastructure so they can test samples that might be from Ebola patients. U.S. foreign aid really helped build up those systems, and in recent years, it's helped outbreaks get... declared relatively early on. Okay, so usually they're caught pretty early, but you're saying that didn't happen for this current situation? No. So when the outbreak was declared on May 15th, that initial death

toll had already reached 65. I track outbreaks like these pretty closely, and when I saw that announcement, I had this moment of panic. that I'd somehow missed earlier reports because the numbers just seemed too big for a new outbreak. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. Now, health officials suspect the outbreak wasn't new then, and it likely started months ago, perhaps as early as February. So why was there a delay in declaring it? A few reasons. Like I said, it's a tough region to work in because it's remote.

and there's conflict, and the species of Ebola that's spreading is a rarer one. It's called Bundabujo, and there have been only two other outbreaks of it, in 2007 and 2012. Genetically, it's like 30% different than the more common species. Unfortunately, that means that the tests that DRC typically uses can't detect it. So cases that seemed like Ebola kept turning up negative. So how did they eventually tell

it was Ebola? Health officials shipped samples to a bigger lab in Kinshasa, DRC's capital, where they did more sophisticated tests. But even that process was delayed. Early samples weren't shipped properly, and there were delays in those shipments. Wow. Yeah, and these outbreak surveillance activities are the kind of thing that used to be heavily supported by U.S. foreign aid, including by USAID. Bye. There it is. Very good. And there's more? But wait, there's more? Well, no, well,

they have to... Spike the ball. It's not just you. We're going to talk about USAID. Let's make sure we focus a little bit more. And after the Trump administration's massive cuts last year, I'm sure it was affected. Yeah, a lot of it is gone. The State Department has said that it's false to claim that those cuts impacted the Ebola response. but I've spoken with a lot of global health experts who think it contributed. Ha ha ha. Yep. Oh, man. It's our fault. That's right. It's your

fault. It's Trump's fault that the Ebola thing broke out. That's right. It's so obvious. Let's boil it down. It's Musk's fault. He needs to be taxed. Ha ha ha! Take away half his company. Yes. Well, I might as well do my... Data center to desktop segment here. as

the AI trade continues to look more and more like it's just not going to be quite as valuable as everybody thought it was. Uh, we go to, uh... This is, well, this is actually What's-His-Face from the All In pod. But either way, I profoundly believe the future is composable models. And you're going to every enterprise. You're going to have what Andrej Karpathy called the Council of LLMs. You're going to have, you know, you're going to have

Grok. You're going to have Anthropic. you're gonna have open AI, Google, you're gonna have at least two of those. I would argue Grok should always be one of the two because of its dedication to the truth. And it will tell you as a business owner, a politically inconvenient truth that you need to know for your data. But you're also going to have your own open weights model that you RL'd on your data. And you're gonna put those two together. the frontier models, and your own model,

and you are going to get real Pareto-dominant outcomes. And half the queries are going to go to the open source model, maybe 85%, and only the hardest ones are then, maybe they all go to open source first, and

only the hardest ones are then checked. by the frontier models so and this by the way is gavin baker i think was a early investor in uh in spacex and all the ai stuff this is the future it's coming and a misconception that a lot of people have is that open source models are you know somehow bad for ai They're awesome for the AI infrastructure providers. They just shift economic value from the margins of the frontier labs. to the infrastructure. And that's not bad for AI.

That's great for them. It's great for them. It's great for them. But I do think there's still a role for these frontier models, and it may be true. To date, frontier tokens are capturing 90% of the economic value, and open source tokens are probably 80% plus of tokens processed. And those ratios may be here to stay, but I just think composable models. are the future. There you go. Frontier tokens versus composable models. We have more buzzwords.

Yeah, it's ridiculous. I've been burning a lot of Frontier tokens lately. Have you now? The Frontier token is just as crazy. And then CNBC identifies the... Didn't we have a... Yes, the token maximization burn is a problem. Welcome back. OpenAI and Anthropic have commanded premium AI pricing, but is that advantage fading ahead of their public debuts? Our

Kate Rooney has that story. Hey, Kate. Hi, Leslie. So OpenAI and Anthropic have seen this eye-popping revenue growth during what has been just a spend-at-all-cost attitude in corporate America. Experts tell me that... Maybe why these AI giants are both racing towards public markets to sell that AI growth, while these numbers still at this point look that good. So both have filed confidentially. Anthropic, when you look at the revenue, it was a $47 billion run rate. That

was up 4x from last year. OpenAI's run rate, when you look at revenue, it's roughly doubled from a year ago. the growth rates for Anthropic and OpenAI are what they expect to be the fastest they're ever going to

be. absolutely hitting a peak at least according to Darren Kamara he's the CEO of AI squared he says the peak here is using the most expensive models for simpler tasks within organizations as he put it employees don't need these powerful models on the market to write email so the pressure it's coming from all sides here So that should be, I hear OpenAI has. delayed their IPO now, that's a bad sign for them. Uh-oh. That's a bad sign. That's not good. And I saw, when you tell

Horowitz on Tuesday, DH unplugged everybody. Tuesdays, 9 p.m. Eastern, they go live, shows out. Does he put it out the same night or is it Wednesday morning? No, no, he puts it out faster than you do. Oh, well, the show is a third of the length, and it's scripted. We don't have to get sensitive about it. No. Jeez. You're right. It's kind of an offhanded compliment that you get it out so fast. I don't even know why I responded. I'm just so sensitive. So he posts

an interview with some guy. on X and I saw it. It's like, oh yeah, you know, the best thing for the AI trade now is invest in people who have big battery storage. I'm like, what? So, yeah, because at peak hours, the AI is going to switch to battery power. I don't know. Was that on the Disciplined Investor? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I'm like, what? Like, okay. For what, 45 minutes? How long is that going to last? I don't know. This is hilarious. That's too funny.

Um, let me see. There was something... It was actually something kind of concerning. You know, I've been seeing a lot of those videos of people finding tick boxes. Have you seen the tick box? Oh, the tick box. Yeah, the tick boxes. And it's these boxes that are just

out in the wild. And they're just teething, seething with ticks. Ticks. And... This is from the Farm Journal. And I, you know, I'm with Texas Limb that. You know, this is a... A targeted operation. Litter up! Well, it's against the American ranchers and the op is by the big meat packers. There's only three of them, I think, maybe four, three. They're mainly foreign owned and they just want to bring crap cows up from South America and they want to continue doing that because there's drugs being

smuggled and probably people being smuggled along with these. cattle transports. I don't know if they put the drugs in the cow, but there's clearly a correlation between cartels and cows. The cow cartel. And this was on the Farm Journal. Well, Travis, thanks for joining us today. On June 9th, you posted some photos of your cattle. covered in ticks and they're quite devastating. So can you tell us what happened? to these animals and when the last time was that

you check them after seeing this. So that was on Saturday. We were in the hay and right beside these cattle. Walked through them. The one I posted a picture of was a... She was broke to show. She was a show cow. So I actually laid hands on her in the pasture field. Tuesday, the guy at least this farm from called, and he says, you have a heifer laying out here. So we came out here, and that's how we found her, just covered in ticks. And Monday,

driving through her, you couldn't see any on her. And Saturday, I actually laid hands on her and never saw a tick or anything. And we did have them tested and it was the Asian longhorn tick on every farm. Every tick we got was that species. Have you ever seen ticks like this before? Your pictures are unbelievable. Never. My dad said they had them. 30 or 40 years ago, we were in the dairy business and had them pretty bad one year, but nothing. Nothing like that. It's

still bad. Like you, you can walk to the gate to open the gate out of the side by side and you'll have five or six crawling up your pant leg. That's not good. I don't know. This feels like something nefarious is going on. And we don't hear anything about the screwworm anymore. Screwworm just came and went. Yeah, I don't know. Very suspicious. Well, we got ranchers out there. They'll let us know what they think. We have the best producers in the universe. after all. The TPS

big win, or as the headlines go, Supreme Court hands Donald Trump a big win. Hands him a big win. And this is the temporary protective status, which we've been talking about for the length of this show. And probably ever since the Haitian earthquake. And it's kind of interesting because didn't... Obama and Clinton and Bush, didn't they raise hundreds of billions of dollars for Haiti? Yeah, and don't send your blankets or your water. Just send your cash.

Yeah. But somehow the Haitians, who, as you know, are eating the dogs. They never got any of it. They're eating the dogs. Well, yeah. I got definitely the Haitians are being kicked out of the country, too. Do I have a clip on that? I have a Tom Homan, a short clip about. the immigration. The TPS decision that the U.S. Supreme Court just 6-3 about They can allow so the president has the constitutional authority to make it temporary and not permanent. It's the right call. You know,

I've been doing this since 1984. TPS has never been temporary. That's why the whole is. The statute exists. Temporarily give people protection while the country's in turmoil or after they suffer a hurricane. But the problem is, no administration. I've had the guts to actually follow that statute. President Trump has the guts to follow the law. So temporary means temporary. When the condition of that country gets better,

they need to go home. There are millions of people standing in line wanting to be part of the greatest nation on earth. And that goes back to my earlier point, people say, "Why are you arresting them if they're not going to live under 10 years?" because he cheated the system They may have been there 10 years, but let's remember, when you enter the country illegally, it's a crime. And they're doing that, putting themselves in front of the line, while millions of people are taking their tests.

doing their background investigation, paying their fees to be part of the greatest nation on earth. So temporary means temporary, and I'm grateful for that decision. I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water. Just send your cash. Yep, just send your cash. Now they got a lot of cash, and then didn't they build one

hotel, the Bill Clinton Hotel? couple of homes on the other side of the island sean penn built a couple of homes and then they had the the islands where the cruise ships rolled up And there was like a Hooker's Paradise. Yeah. And then Clinton's, was it? Clinton's brother? who got the gold rights in Haiti. And then there was... I forgot about that part. And then they were smuggling out kids. The whole thing was... Yeah, it was tawdry. Tawdry, yes. I was going to say sketchy, but

tawdry is a better word. And so now it's time to go. And, you know, of course, now is the problem. Well, in NPR, all they did was moan about this. And they said, well, these... poor people they they're locked into the community they've been here for some over a decade and they got jobs and family and it's a shame and i more i was thinking about yeah you what tolman indicated was yeah you do temporary thing and you never ship them back that's been the strategy

We just don't ship them back, ever. No, in fact, we ship them in, and we ship them to specific locations where factories need cheap labor. Yeah, so they can vote Democrat. And they can eat the pets. They ate the dogs. I still think Trump won on that line. He did. You're eating the dogs! Oh, no, no. Let's get... Let's get the, let's get it good. Let's get the... Uh, hold on, where is it? Here we go. They're eating the dogs! Oh man, so good. you Ha

ha ha ha! In context, it's even funnier. Because, you know, uh... Kamlo is on some sort of a roll. And he interrupted her with that line. Here's the out of the blue. Here's the full line. In Springfield, they're eating the dogs, the people that came in. They're eating the cats. They're eating. They're eating the pets of the people that live there. And this is what's happening in our country. And it's a shame. It's a shame. Yeah. It's a shame. It's a shame. It's a shame. That's

the line of the day. It's a shame. It's a shame. They're eating the dogs. Yes. All right. What else you got? You want to roll one more out here?

Well, I've got a couple of things but if a lot of interesting things you got airline organization crashes yeah this is good let's play that airline organization crashes thing this is something fishy about this the most recent close call happened this weekend confusion as a delta flight aborted its landing in boston after a cockpit collision alert warned that an american jet was just 300 feet away on

an intersecting runway. 4161, where you going? Takeoff 3161. Today, a stunning revelation from the organization that represents the nation's airlines. There are many more, thousands of more of near misses. than are probably out there in the public and that, you know, get the headlines. There are hundreds of them every single day. But only a fraction make the news. The FAA says most reported incidents are not close calls and that runway incursion rates have decreased more than

10% since last year. In April, the FAA says two southwest planes came with... than 500 feet of each other over Nashville. And a close call between two regional jets at New York's JFK Airport. And following horrific crashes in Washington, Louisville, and New York. This has been... A year

when we've had many, many serious close calls. The pilots union and NTSB want Congress to require all planes to have precise GPS-based air traffic receivers that show surrounding air traffic, something the American Airlines crew did not have in the fatal midair crash over Washington. If we don't have a deadline, it'll never happen. While the Senate wants to set a deadline, the House has declined, concerned that it would create an excessive burden on airlines and aircraft owners.

Well, a couple things about this. First of all, the... We have more air traffic controllers than anybody, any podcast anywhere. And I'm a little, just a, just, I have a twinge of disappointment that no one has contacted me with their opinion on this. um I think a couple of things happened in the particular case of the crossed runways. The air... This is not abnormal, this type of clearance for you have a one-on-final, which is kind of short final, and you have one taking off. That's not

abnormal. Two things, though. The controller did not say clear for departure immediately or make it fast. There's a whole bunch of things you hear from... air traffic control, which means go now and move in. There's a whole bunch of ways they say it. That didn't happen. And it still took about 30 to 40 seconds before the American airline took off. But then there's also. From what I

understand, all these major airports have the runway lights. incursion system that's probably not what it's called And it's automatic. It's not something ATC flips on. So if there's an aircraft incoming or that is about to cross the runway, red lights light up all across the runway. We don't know if that worked or not or if it was ignored. So that's a safety measure that was. put in specifically for this. But ultimately, it's all about military contractors

with the next-gen aviation system. That's what everybody wants. Yeah, you were as that anyway. That's what they want. They want more gear. More gear, new gear. New gear, more gear. Yeah, that's probably what it is. Yeah, of course. And that's what you do. That's what these stories are. Yes. Say a prayer for your air traffic.

controllers because they do a great job and for your pilots and you know what shit happens 33 000 flights a day over the united states exactly exactly it's a lot the most dangerous part of flying is driving to the airport It's just the truth. It reminds me of

one of my, we have these stories called Phyllis. stories it's my mom oh she always said you've you've said stories that your mom would tell us you i didn't never knew her name was phyllis yeah phyllis so she so we had these stories wait the most legendary phyllis story is that the chinese are stealing our toilet paper oh yeah the toilet paper story but this she has she has this one too This is another classic. There's also the brown chicken eggs. But... Phyllis stories. So this

story, so I'm going on some trip. And, uh... It's just a classic response to anything I ever said to her. She says, why are you going on a trip? I said, I'm going to Europe. "Oh, it's so unsafe. It's so unsafe to fly." I said, "Mom, there's 33,000 flights a day, every day. How unsafe could it be?" She says, "Oh my, no wonder there's so much air pollution." It's just like, without missing a beat. *clap* So that's where you get it from. Now I understand. It's

all Phyllis. It's the Phyllis DNA that's running through your veins. That's what's going on there. And with that, I want to thank you for your courage. Say in the morning to you, the man who put the seas in the... What do we have? Uhhhh... Or was it? Oh, the cow cartel. They're the cow cartel. No, cow cartel. Cow cartel. Everybody say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only, Mr. John! Subtitles by the Amara.org community Trolls in the troll room, don't move,

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not even 20. I've got to make it to 20 at least. Before we start getting into any of this,

I want to make an announcement. There's no more Red Knights available. What? How about the guy that just emailed today? Did he get in? That's the last one, that

guy. He got in? Oh, okay, cause I- saw that i'm like no the guy's he took the rest of them oh okay oh he's coming in with a rubble this will be on this thursday show he's coming in with a rubbleizer donation he's gonna scarf up the end of the thing oh so they're they're done they're they're scarfed they're they're out he he came in and got him for his whole family yeah jay did a double count today and we're We're done. Okay. Wow. All right. I mean, but maybe by popular demand, we'd make some

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And there's a lot of people who send very small amounts, which is all appreciated. Everybody should be sending some small amount at some point in time. considering we have a lot of people listening. It would be nice if everyone did it. We know that doesn't work. Oh, so Wikipedia. which is Wikimedia. Someone sent me their latest fundraising drive, and they're about the same as us. They say, you know, of all the people who use Wikipedia, now

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that means it's only becoming less valuable. Yeah, too much inventory. Yeah, I mean, it's unlimited inventory. How much podcast do you want? Infinite. Infinite. Thank you. It's infinite. So it's... It's not a winning strategy. And it's annoying. So we decided, we'll just do it this way. And, you know, I love the small businesses because they get as much a kick out of the No Agenda community as we do because people send notes and they thank them

for their product and they give them their... testimonials. And so you'll see we have a couple of those today. And some of them are really funny, but just really Manuka Gold really got me today. So first we start. Well, you give them enough plugs right now, you don't even have to read their note. No, I'm not going to be like that. You're getting... Well, I'm just... I wasn't really suggesting. I'm just saying. I'm going to scold them. It's not as though they don't get banged

for their buck. I'm going to scold them. Now, what is this? Is this meetup money that came in here at the top of the list? No, this is money. No, you just skip it. It is the, okay, the old legacy account. Yeah. which was the old $5, $2, $1, it has been building up for about 10 years. Nickel and dime, nickel and dime. That's about five years worth. I had to move it over because I got to move it over. I got to move it over. It's got to be moved over, so I moved it

over for load balancing. We needed the money. Load balancing? Holy moly. All right. I love the load balancing. Okay, so I can just ignore that. Yeah, just ignore that. All right, so then we go to... Uh, Brendan Flemer? Am I saying that right? Am I on the right note here? I didn't even see this note initially, so I have some work to do here. He comes in with $1,000, which is very much appreciated. And he says, ITM. No, no, no, you're David Rosa. Oh, I'm sorry.

I got the note first. Oh, David Rosa. I'm sorry. There you go. David Rosa comes in from Clarkson, Michigan. $1,000 plus fees, $1,030.26. And he says, so glad that John, the patriarch of the order of the heart, is on the mend. He's done. He's good people. By the way, is there still progress being made on the Rub-A-Lizer challenge coins? Well, this is a question for you. The answer? We need the answer. No, not yet. Well... Soon. It's not that we're completely done with the heart donation.

It's time to get to work. Okay. I'll talk to Paul about it. See, I wanted to make Paul do it because Paul. Yeah. For some reason has a neck. For certain kinds of designing. For challenge coins. Yes, he does. And his challenge coin is still the best of all. We had a lot of people doing challenge coins and designing them. But Paul's is, he's got a, I don't know what it is. It's just some sort of. It's all I can call it. Yeah. For doing this stuff. And I have to talk him into it because

it's work for him. Oh, well, Paul, we'd love it. We'll love it if you could do that. He doesn't listen to the show. Really? I don't know. He does the art generator but doesn't listen to the show. I mean, people, they do that. All right. All right. happens. Yes. Okay. Next. You're up. This is the note. Yeah, this is from a note. This is, uh... Brendan Flemer in Bismarck, North Dakota. And he's the one who sent in the $1,000. Very short note, ITM. I couldn't think

of a witty night name that hasn't already been. claimed. So I'm just going to go with my given name. Jingles. He does have some jingle requests. Yes. Biden to full load, two to the head, Obama, you might die. a little story this mini story and then he has a round table request yes of uh Flesh. Kalu, flesh Kalu. Fresh Kalu. and corn boot guy. Kombucha, corn bootcha. Kombucha. It says corn here. No, it doesn't. Keep up the extraordinary. By the way, kombucha. We talked about this

earlier. It's bad. It's dangerous. If something is dangerous, the best mycologists in the country, it's a witch's brew. It can't be duplicate. Nobody knows what's even in that mother. It's just a bunch of different animals living there. Hey, when you give us the vinegar book, we'll believe what you're saying. Until then. I'm just saying. There's no evidence. I don't... drink it. Keep up the exemplary. Work. Soon, Sir Flimmer. I'm going to give you the whole load

today. There you go. And we move on to Knight's John. Uh... who is from Tucson, Arizona, and he sends in 626. dollars and 26 cents I don't see, do I have this note? Yeah, it's a note. It's the second note on that same page. Oh, well, could you read it? Because for some reason I closed that one. Okay, I see you've added it. John, this donation is 62626. It's for my palindrome birthday on June 26th. We've been skipping these palindromes. The whole week has been palindrome

week. Like today's show, 1-881. Yeah. Yeah. This is a great way to connect birthdays to donations. To boot, I'll be... six seven As near as I can tell, most people can expect to get one of these in a lifetime. I'm sure the numerology nerds out there can do some predicting and forecast show donations on this basis. Yeah, they can, and the show donations are down. Maybe this will keep John smiling. No. Thank you for your courage. Knight John, protector of the pocket protectors and keeper of

his 15 grandchildren. Now there's a guy that does his work. Jingles, F-35 Karma and WTC7. Okay, this is what I didn't have. F-35 Karma. And he wants to WT. Well, I'm wanting to do WTC seven first. Because that's a better sequence. WTC7 won't go away. You've got... Karma. I'll do the next two because I got Manuka Gold coming up too. 333 from, let's see, this is from... Wait, no. I'm sorry. I made a mistake. Manuka Gold comes first. I'm a mess today. I'm a mess. I'm

a mess. You're a wreck. I'm a mess. I'm a wreck. Here it is. Manuka Gold. Hudson, Florida, 333.33. You noticed too long, Manuka. Hi, gentlemen. As always, the Manuka Gold family is thrilled to support the show. We've enjoyed all the fun ITM comments when you place your orders, and it's nice to hear from all the like-minded people. On Thursdays, it's my fault. Adam noticed we changed the 20% off. code to track what works, so we might as well make the code fun for all of us

and solve a long-standing debate in our family. Who do you think needs Manuka Gold's pain relief gel more? Rocky after Apollo in Rocky 1? Or Rambo? Oh, God. Or Rambo. after the Russian got hold of him in Rambo 2. Cast your vote with your 20% off code at checkout. Use either Rambo or Rocky. See, you're pushing it, Manuka. Don't you think they're pushing? Am I wrong that they're pushing it here? Well, belaboring is the word I'd be using. Belaboring, yes. And I don't think it's... The

gag is not that funny. Did you know that Sylvester Stallone was... banned from ever traveling to Russia because of that movie? No, is he still banned? I think so. Feel free to explain your vote in the order notes. If you don't need top quality Manuka honey products this week, feel free to contact us through our email on manukagold.com. and put in a vote. Oh, so you don't have... No purchase necessary is what you're supposed to say. Everyone can play. We have our own opinions, but we'll

see if the majority agrees. Stay tuned. Yes, sir. You don't get to do your own segment. That's not how it works. And I was going to do a really nice testimonial from Tina. But now I'll have to wait because you used up all your time with your Rambo versus Rocky. And we thank you so much for supporting us. you All right. You're going to do the next one too, you said. No, I'll do it fine. Hunt.

Dieffenthaler. Perns? Hans Dieffenthaler? turns boca raton mouth of the rat me 333.33 this is long overdue please deduce me you've been deduced hello from the southernmost island in the caribbean archipelago Oka-Raton. I found no agenda during COVID when I had a longing for simpler times and wondered what Adam Curry from MTV was up to. Can you imagine? Oh man, we're locked down from COVID. I wonder what

Curry is doing. And I go to YouTube and see Adam's appearance on Rogan, which was just before the lockdowns. I felt like I found my tribe and immediately had an amygdala resizing. I'm going to cut this short and just say thank you for everything. John, you gave us a scare, but glad you are here. Sorry I couldn't do this sooner, but better late than never. Cheers, and until the next donation, kind regards from Hans. Thank you, Hans. Thanks for the compliment. Yes. Dr. Don. and Dame

Audra. They were at the meetup. Did anyone come in with cash donations? Like no blankets, water, but cash? Well, this is interesting because everyone comes in with all the donations from the meetup were cash. except for one. Except for one. Do you have them all or are they on the spreadsheet? They're all mixed in. They're in here. There was no consolidation. Okay. All right. It wasn't necessary. So they just blend in right in. So we got a note. Hello, boys. Thank you for your courage. A

little feedback. for crazy Steve, please don't ever schedule a meetup on Pride weekend. What, did he have a... The traffic through the Bay East Bay was horrendous. Worse than legacy podcast apps. Ha ha. Many thanks to you, John, and that may have been the problem with the meetup being so... poorly attended. Half of our audience was in the parade. They're in

the parade. Not I think about it. Many thanks to you, John and Adam, and the entire No Agenda back office for the gift of the best podcast in the universe. I love Dr. Don and Dame Audra. Bricks and Man and Mini-Figs steals from old people. That's some code for something. Now, this is the... What is this Apple notepaper? Well, he works at Apple. He's one of the Apple guys that watches the show. He watches the show? Wow, those guys at Apple. What am I saying? With

the cans on. He's blind, so I'm sorry I said that. But you brought it to my attention. You're the worst. Uh, he brought... and gave me the new one dollar apparently every state's got one these these commemorative one dollars that were sold out He has a bag of 'em. of the one dollar coin california commemorative coin official real coin With Steve Jobs on it. No way. So Steve Jobs got on the coin. Like a real dollar. You can spend it in the store. Yes, it's an

actual U.S. currency. What? And it's got Steve Jobs on it. It was funny when Brandon looked at the coin. He says, does Steve Jobs' depiction on the back look like that Ramirez guy, the serial killer? Does it kind of look like him? And so everybody was, you know, the same. I had the same reaction. Everybody had the same reaction. This can't be real. Yeah, it doesn't make sense. Because this is supposed to be. It was determined that Steve was the most important Californian that we could

put on this coin. So California minted this? themselves no no this was minted from the u.s the regular whoever stamps out the coins back i think philadelphia besant did it himself personally so so these coins then they only made a limited number they're already selling for six bucks looks they're going to go to 20 And, uh... I was thinking what it. All the people that could have been put on this coin, Californians, why they picked Steve Jobs, I don't know. But at the same time, according

to Don, they sold out. I'll bet they did. In 12 minutes. And he got a bag of them. He got a whole bag. He gave his gift to other Apple people. Oh, that's cool. I don't know how cool it is. As an aside, I apologize. I had no idea the... Rocky vs. Rambo would be such a hit. The Troll Room is still arguing over it. Oh, well,

okay. Well, I take it back. great promotion we've been wrong before at least we admit when we're wrong so uh that's right anyway so they that was i thought was uh yeah well that's cool that's cool i'm glad you got one where's mine Actually, Brunetti wants one too. When Brunetti comes to the... As the guest star of the meetup, you're probably going to do it at the end. You're dodging the question. About what? Where's mine? Well, you had to go and hold it, Don. Maybe he's

got a couple left. He might send you one. He didn't give me one to give you. Let's put it that way. Okay, well, that's obvious. You weren't at the meetup. I've met Steve Jobs and I should get one. I met Steve Jobs, too. Yeah, for an hour privately. I met him when he was during the Apple II era. Oh, well. When he was not quite the a-hole he later became. He was very nice. What were you guys doing privately? Talking. Uh-huh. Eli the Coffee Guy is

back. He's in Bensonville, Illinois, and he's back with his $200 plus the date, $6.28. And we love hearing from Eli the Coffee Guy. He says, as America gets ready to celebrate its 250th anniversary, I want to reflect on our nation. on the nation are forefathers built. There's still no freer or greater place on earth than the United States of America. Patriots rebelled against Britain and its oppressive taxes by dumping tea into the Boston Harbor. In its

place, we adopted coffee. Gigawatt is just keeping the tradition alive. And stay caffeinated, says Eli, the coffee guy. Linda Lou Patkin is up. She's in Castle Rock, Colorado and says, Jobs Karma, your resume is about 10 seconds. you to make an impression. And most don't. For a resume that gets results, go to ImageMakersInc.com. Then it helps professionals and executives position their experience so employers see their value. That's Image Makers Inc. with a K. And Linda Liu,

Duchess of Jobs and writer of winning resumes. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You've got karma. And we still have a couple more 200s here. Steve Peterson is in Kingaroy. That's in Queensland, Australia, 200. And that would be probably, oh, wait, he will be an executive producer because it is $303.12 in the dollary dollarettes from Australia. So we do honor that number. And he says, G'day! Kokinda is right. Check out the Fabian window.

A deliberately hot world being forged by elitist clowns and Australia's leaders are all in. The exchange rate sucks. $200 USD is $3.03 and 12 Australian cents. Wow, that is pretty bad. That's a third less. You know, the countries that suck the most right now... that really suck the most are the UK, Canada, and Australia. Well, Germany's pretty bad. Yeah, yeah. And you got your Hollanders there, you know. Well, I'm going to be giving you boots on

the ground Thursday. We leave on Wednesday. We're going for almost two weeks to see if we can time it with the arrival. You're going there for the baby's birth. We hope so. What do you mean you hope so? Well, I mean the kid might be delayed. What if the kids... Or it could be born while you're in the air. Well, that's okay. That would be okay. It's going to save me money going back. What, are you gonna take- the baby with you? No. The extra discount?

If the baby's born after we've already left, we have to go back, of course. Oh, jeez. That's right. I told Christina, like, can you jump up and down a bit? Yeah. to jump up and down. It's pizza. Pizza. Oh, pizza. Pizza, is that what it does, pizza? Yeah, a big slice of pizza, and boom, you have a baby. Okay. That's a known fact. It works for everybody. And, you know, of course, we'll have a Curry grandbaby donation amount. We'll have all kinds of fun stuff. Think

of the show, John. Think of the show. Ah. All right, uh... Oh, Robert, we got one last one. Robert Montoya in Pleasant Hill. 200 bucks. No note. Well, no note. That means a double up karma for you. You've got. And we thank these executive and associate executive producers for episode 1,881 profusely. We appreciate it very, very much. And, of course, you get these official Hollywood credits, associate executive producer or executive producer. They are valid wherever Hollywood

credits are recognized. And that includes your LinkedIn profile and your IMDb. And we thank you. Our formula is this. We go out. We hit people in the mouth. We'll thank the rest of our time, talent, and treasure supporters. $50 and above. You know what we forgot? We completely forgot the artwork. And I'm not sure how that happened. No, that's funny. I should have caught it. Should we do that real quick before I do the 50s? Sure.

Yeah. That's part of the time, talent, and treasure. We had episode 1880, the Antifa Book Club, the artwork, which was funny. It was good. Of course, it's Darren O'Neill. This was... Our president with his snorkel coming out of the reflecting pool filled with algae with his own. A lot of people like that piece. Because it's a good piece. It's humorous. Yeah, it's very humorous. Although the AI kind of, if you look at it carefully, there's what

looks like a P-51 trainer. Airplane with a banner with no agenda and the ropes of the banner are on the... far side of the Washington Monument, which seems a little unlikely. Yeah, seems unlikely. Seems a bit unlikely. um but it was a great piece and yes and that's what it is sometimes darren o'neill man he just has it. He's got that magic. Let's see, we looked at other things, though. I think there was something that I liked that you didn't like. There was not much.

I kind of like the... Well, the Scrabble, you're right, it wasn't all that great. Well, the Scrabble is what Jay used for the newsletter. So she did like it. Because she's been putting it together. And I call her

up and say, what are you using? this yeah i think it's really good looking and i said that's what adam said yeah and then so i find it very irksome some people like hey i like the no agenda in the reflecting pool we've already done one of those gags the gag is over A lot of rodenticide, a lot of dead rats, rats deteriorate. This is a little gruesome. Yeah, no dead rats. But there also wasn't a lot. There wasn't a lot. It was only like maybe... There was no inspiration. We get lots of art when

people get inspired by something we say. And so the Antifa Book Club, which is what the title of the show was, Blue Acorn did an Antifa Book Club art, which blowed up. Is it great? piece of art but it's too small for the art as just a poster-sized image. And it's really, it's a waste because it was really good. But blowed up. It would be nice on the wall or something. Yeah, that was one of the pieces. That would be huge to be appreciated. All right,

now we continue with our 50s and above. And we left off with the Duke of San Francisco, who sends us $160. Thank you. Robin Tolbert from Topeka, Kansas, 133.33. We love the 33s. James Powers in Carnegie, Oklahoma. 100, Lydia of the Shire. Let me mention something about Lydia. So she's at the meetup. And with the, I want to thank her for the bag of, she has dropped off a bag of giant Meyer lemons, which I've never seen them quite that big. And some other goodies in

the process. She's about to become a dame. Okay. $100 on her way. Sir Zolbat, 100. C-C-P-E-N-O. Was that a meetup person? I don't know. Maybe. CCP ENO, $100. Coming in with $80.08, 8-0-0-8, try it on your calculator, Kevin McLaughlin, he is the Archduke of Duna, lover of America, and... He's from Concord, North Carolina. And he says, 1881, Laus Deo, which translates to praise be to God, inscribed on top of the Washington Monument facing east towards the

rising sun. The more you learn, the more you know. John Albarini, $70.26. Rebecca Haw. was 63. And she says, John and Adam, I love you both. This is number three of several to count down to my birthday. Oh, yeah, she's doing the birthday countdown. July 18th when I turned 63, born in 1963, hence the 63 donation amount. I'll be a dame by my birthday. Hugs from your boots on the ground in Italy. Rebecca is in Italy. Last name sounds like Haw. Yep, I got it. Les

Starkowski in Kingman, Arizona with a small boobs, $80.06. Nathan Gwynn. Sorry? You said 80. You said $80.06. I'm pretty sure I said $60.06. Well, it sounds like 80 to me. Nathan Gwynn, Jackson, Tennessee, 5272. Foster Birch, New York, New York, 5272. Double nickels on the dime from Anonymous in Port Orchard, Washington. Interview and jobs, Karma, please, Anonymous. What is this with the interview? I don't know. He's giving an interview. All right. Well, he wants to give

that at the end. There's no such thing. This thing is an interview jingle. Catherine van Tuy in Rotterdam, 50. Richard Gardner. $50. Aaron Weisgerber, Bend, Oregon, $50. Bobby Bowe in Bluegrass, Iowa, $50. And that's it. Those are our 50s, but we do see you, $49.99s. You are there for a reason. And for that very reason, we will not mention you. We keep all of those anonymous, but we are very grateful for your support of the No Agenda show. And anybody can support the show with your

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donation, any amount, any frequency. Just go to noagendedonations.com. Here's the jobs karma, no interview. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. Mama. ♪ I say, I say ♪ Well, it's going to be a real short one. All we have is one listed on the birthday calendar. Knight John turned 67 on June 26. So we say happy birthday to you, sir, from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe. We have a couple of orders of the heart. It's always nice. Let's bring it

right in. *Badass music* Thursday will be the last time

we get to play that jingle and what fun it has David Rosa and Brendan Flemer both today become red knights in the order of the heart and we congratulate you and we salute you both gentlemen. Thank you very much for your support. this right now. We have a layaway night coming up here. So let me read the layaway nights. This is from Jason Chapman. He says, started on the $4 a week plan back in late 2022,

knighthood seemed unobtainable. But weekly donations do add up. A boobs donation and a couple over 50 helped as well. I just donate and forget. Well, I just added it up and I haven't updated the spreadsheet since November and BAM! I'm a knight! Please see attached accounting. Yes. We checked it. Please knight me Sir L.P. McHenry, Knight of the Fox River Valley. That's L.P. McHenry. Just read the letters L and P and the CD McHenry. Gotcha. All I need at the round table is just some hookers

and blow. They're all lined up for you. If I could just get a shut up slave jingle. Shut up slave. I'll be happy. Gotta stick with the plan and next. goal is producer credit. I'll add it to the Christmas list. Hope this wasn't too long. It was not. Thank you very much, Jason Chapman. John, get your blade out because he's stepping up on the podium. And along with him, we have... Brendan Flemer, both of you have

supported the show in a accumulated total account. So I'm very proud to pronounce the Kate both of you as Knights. We have Sir Flemer and Sir L.P. McHenry, Knight of the Fox River Valley for you. We've got Hookers and Blow, Rent Boys and Chardonnay. We've got Fliske Kikloo and Kombucha. Along with that, we also have some Harlots. and we also have some mutton and the meat. It's a very big favorite here at the No Agenda Roundtable

of our Knights and Dames. Head over to noagendarings.com. for your red knight pin if you are eligible for one and that'll be it for that special. We brought John back to life. Mission accomplished, everybody. Thank you very much. Give us your ring size and tell us where to send it because they are signet rings. They always are accompanied by a beautiful set of wax sticks. They are

sticks indeed, and a certificate of authenticity. And welcome to the Roundtable, our brand new Knights of the Know Agenda. Know Agenda! Earlier, the whole show, we've talked about the

meetups, how important they are. They're important to your mental health. And we finally have a report from Berlin and they took their sweet time. In the morning, Adam and John. This is Augusto, the Britannian. We are here in Berlin, Germany. Today was a lovely day for a meet-up. It was 33 degrees in the afternoon. Hi, everyone. Here's from Berlin. Augusto hosted another lovely meetup, much nicer than the ones that I've hosted. And we're here with several

lovely people. There's five of us all together. And we, yeah, had some drinks and some food and some... fun and it's really been a good time good people Hello, greetings from Berlin. Even though we are in Germany, there are no Germans among us. So if you are a German and you want to come to the next meetup in Berlin, please do. We have a Brazilian, two Americans, I'm Polish, and we have a French guy too. I've resisted. Greetings from Berlin. This is the first time I

ever even heard of this podcast. Yeah. But yeah, these are some very nice people and I've had a lovely evening. There was all of this discussion about what am I going to say? What are you going to say? Everyone wants to hear us, what they're going to say. But one thing that we thought we needed to mention is that the servers here in Berlin are zero interested to be part of our meetup report. Selkiri, when she farts, she takes her ass for a trumpet. Okay. He probably said... That

actually tells us something. That's interesting information. Germany has been so suppressed with free speech. That's right. No, no, no. No, no, no, no. Put me out. I got nothing to do with that. I don't want to get arrested. No, exactly. The Gestapo are on their way. No, I don't want to. Yeah, that's exactly right. Wow. That is. pathetic. Yeah, sorry for you Germany. Well thank you, thank you guys for your Berlin meetup report and it sounds like at least there are some sane people in Germany

these days. We also have a meetup in Alabama taking place as we speak, the Northern Alabama meetup at Mellow Mushroom in Decatur and just underway in longview texas at rotolo's pizzeria the east texas meetup and half century celebration I think it's Dirty Jersey Whore's birthday. On Thursday, our next show day, the Northern Wake No Agenda Pre-Freedom Fest 250 meetup at 6 o'clock at Saints and Scholars in Raleigh, North Carolina. And, of course, no meetups on the

4th. but we do have one on the 3rd in Oklahoma City, the 11th in Eagle, Idaho, the 14th Scottsdale, Arizona, the 15th in Asheville, North Carolina, the 16th in Charlotte, North Carolina. I guess they need two. Anaheim, California, the 25th. Leo Bravo doing that one in Alpharetta, Georgia on the 30th. And many more meetups on the calendar. find it at noagendameetups.com. This is truly something that will

give you connection with other human beings. It gives you immediate protection because these people will be your first responders in any emergency, guaranteed. Go to noagendameetups.com. Find one near you. If you can't, it's easy to start one yourself. There's no cost. Just put it. together and put it at noagendameetups.com. Always a party. ♪ Mix and dance ♪

you ♪ To say ♪ We do have end of show mixes coming up from the trifecta, just Baker, Johnny B, and MVP. We've got John's tip of the day, and I do not see any ISOs from you today. I felt so bad about winning the last one. Oh. When I thought you had a better ISO, I'd do it. refer to that one, but you probably can't find your old ISOs from the last show. I probably can. Which is the one you like better? Well, if you play them, I can tell you. I think it was

the first one. Let's see. I think it was. There's nothing else like that on planet Earth. Was it that one? That was a good one. I have this one. These guys are great entertainers. Very smart. Very funny. I have new ones. I have new ones. It's highly entertaining. And I have another new one. That was great. I kind of like that one. I'm a little partial to that. I like the first one from the, that you played just... Vegas was the last show. This one? There's

nothing else like that on planet Earth. That's the one? Yeah. Okay, we'll do that one. But first, we have to listen to John, because he's got another tip of the day. ♪ It's for you and me, just the two of us with JCB ♪ And sometimes, Adam. Alright, I got a wine tip from Costco. All right. Wake the kids. Only because people keep wanting these wine tips from Costco. That's all we really want. I'm going to try to get a couple in a month. Okay. This is a 2020. Now, this isn't. This is for people

who are really Chardonnay aficionados. I don't know if you want this wine. This is for the ABC people. ABC? Anything but Chardonnay? The women who use the term ABC, which means anything but Chardonnay. Right. There's a bunch of people that started to hate it. They don't like it. Like the buttery, the delicious buttery Chardonnays. They don't like oak. They don't like this. They don't like that. This

is a, but they like a crisp, clean Chardonnay. But, you know, like a Chablis would be a good example from France. Yes. In France, they have the range of Chardonnays that's only... Equaled by California. We have an incredible range of quality Chardonnays. Yeah, which is probably our best grape, in fact. Now, you did one of these recently. You did a... An ABC wine recommendation. Yeah, but it wasn't a Chardonnay. It was actually a true ABC wine.

Okay, okay. This is a Chardonnay that... qualifies because it's, I consider it very well made, unobtrusive Chardonnay for people who don't like Chardonnay necessarily. And maybe if you like Chardonnay, you'd like this wine too. It's the Ferrari Carano, which they always make a good wine. It's a Sonoma Valley operation. F-E-R-R-A-R-I-C. A-R-A-N-O. 2024 Sonoma County Chardonnay. And it's available at Costco for $15.98. Wow. That's a pretty good price. It's a reasonable price. What is it? Some of

the ladies here, they're drinking something else. They all go for nuts. not blanc de blanc that's that's bubbly right blanc de blanc is bubbly Blanc de Blanc is typically a sparkling wine. Yeah, what is the other, something else that... Not a V&A. Sauvignon Blanc? No. Maybe... I'm trying to say... Pinot Blanc? I don't remember. I'm going to have to find it. Well, thanks a lot. That was useful. Not useful at all. Not useful. You know, Matt

Long came up to me. Hey, this reminds me of the old, John, hey, John, I had this fabulous wine at this restaurant. I can't remember. It was unbelievable. Really? What was it? I don't know. Get all the details at tipoftheday.net, noagendafund.com. Great advice from you and me, just the tip with JCB. And sometimes, I don't. Created by Dana Burnetti. Yeah, all right, everybody. That's it. I will

be flying out of here on Wednesday. and landing Thursday morning and doing the show for you until midnight because I love you and we do this as a public service. We love doing it. We love it. And before we go today, we have end of show mixers, mixers, mixes as a tease from Just Baker, MV. and Sir Johnny B. It is a trifecta. You will love it. It's very, very good. The lyrics are finally getting together. Good job, boys. Good job. So we'll return on Thursday.

We hope that you tune in because if you want to make sense of what's happening in your world, why the media is talking such bullcrap, we'll deconstruct it for you. And in Until then, I am coming to you from... the heart of the Texas Hill Country, where we have our giraffe back. In the morning, everybody, it's Fredericksburg calling. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll be back. Stop. I'll be back on Thursday. Remember to support the show. Your time, your

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