1869 - "Trollery"

She's all jacked up about the action hoe. Adam Curry. John C. Devorah. It's Sunday, May 17th, 2026. This is your award-winning Get My Nation Media assassination episode 1869. This is no agenda. Doing the Bangaranga! Broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas O'Connor. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Kupf. And from Refinery Row, where everybody's happy that Bill Cassidy's finally out, I'm John C. Dvorak. *In the morn-* Hey, man, the gloves are coming off. Gloves are

coming off. I don't care how, you know, if they cut your chest open, the gloves are off. I cannot believe. that for 18 years, One thing has been my segment. One thing. You need to come in. With a series of four clips about Eurovision. Yeah, after you poached and poached and poached, I got sick of it. What did I poach? You know, everything. I've... Well, we do this every single year. We're always very- And we nailed it again. We did? I think we forgot to nail

it. We completely forgot to predict. But okay. It's a good thing. But okay. I will, yes, because we probably would have corrected, predicted incorrectly. But I will relent. I will allow you. graciously. to roll out whatever you think is important about this year's Eurovision Song Contest. Well, it's funny you should ask. Now... First of all, this is the 70th anniversary. Big deal. I mean, 75 would have been better, but yeah, yeah. Yep, yep. 70 is a

big deal. Yeah, 75 is better. 100 is even better. But 70, you know, you know, it's... Now, since you're doing this segment, first of all, did we have any transsexuals this year in the contest? No, they were all transsexuals. Yeah? Okay. So let's say that this is a PBS report. or I'm sorry, NPR report. So I thought it was kind of entertaining because they actually... in an offhanded way predicted the winner even though it was the long shot in the way it was presented. But let's

listen to it. And the guys, they're very enthusiastic. Let's go with Eurovision 70 Years. That's clip number one. Let the- The Eurovision Song Contest begins! 70 years old still as glamorous as ever the final song contest is in full swing in vienna you heard three of the early entries denmark germany and israel and it's said to be the non-sporting event with the biggest global audience so if you're not listening to news hour you are probably watching it or is this npr Yeah. With a British guy?

Yeah. You're doing both at the same time. Let's speak now to someone who is going to do that. William Lee Adams, BBC journalist, founder of WeWeBlogs, which is the world's most followed independent Eurovision channel. What kind of blog? WeeWee Blogs. WeeWee Blogs. Okay. He's in Vienna. Hi, William. Hey, good evening, James. Good to have you on the program. What, nearly two hours since it all started. What are the highlights so far? Oh, wait a minute. Well,

the room is... This is the BBC World Service, of course. Yes, thank you. I knew it couldn't be NPR. I just thought it was so lame it had to be NPR, but now that I think about it, you're right. Yeah. Okay, onward. Whenever you bring in the guy who writes the WeWe blog. Yeah, the Wee Wee blog is, I think, even beneath NPR. Very bouncy and very buoyant. A lot of that is... down to Australia, Delta Goodrum. She is going for gold and wearing gold. Yes,

yes, yes, I'm stopping. Oh my God, we're never going to get through this. Australia? The Euderian Europe? Oh, we go through this every year. You might as well add Israel and say what? They're not in this, are they? Because they're not in Europe. Yes, but it is the Euro... The Eurovision. Yeah, Euro standing for Europe. No, that just means Eurovision. Like, you can see Europe. You have a vision of Europe. It doesn't mean that you have to be in Europe. Oh, then how do the United

States do in this competition? We don't. Look, we have the voice. We invented all of these. these things. Okay, well, if they drop the United States, we'll drop ourselves. How about South America? How did Brazil do? Every year we go through this. What? Every year. They could, everyone can participate if they want. They just have to join the European Broadcasting Union, which costs money. Oh, there it

is. It's like the Olympics. you know it's like then your country wins and then it's all hosted in your country and there's a lot of money involved sponsors all kinds of stuff everywhere 7 000 swarovski crystals she sort of looks like liquid champagne walking down the stage now i will say this is the commentary that I expect from Eurovision. 7,000 Swarovski crystals. She looks like champagne coming down the steps. It's wonderful. Now, her song is called

Eclipse. This is about alignment. And we can take some notes here because this is how the podcast award should run that you were going to organize, that we were going to be the... The still in play. You know, that's a connection that two people have that's really special and can lead to sort of romantic entanglement. Now, she herself is a cancer survivor. She's raised more than one hundred and twenty million dollars for cancer research. And so this song is about timing, you know, and she told

me. When I sing, I'm singing for all the struggles I've had, all the struggles I've endured and survived. And it's just beautiful. She rises into the air on an elevator borrowed from Beyonce, the American pop star. Oh, no. Which emerges from her piano. So she's in the air in gold. There's a sun behind her. She looks like a gorgeous Renaissance painting with the sun being that halo.

It's just stunning. Well, you've painted the... picture on the radio which is what we yes that was pure theater of the mind thank you we blog we'd like you to have done which is wonderful but tell us about the other favorites i mean she's one of them finland greece although i think you had a kind of bulgaria have come in at the last minute for you have they oh absolutely the contest really is a two horse race between Australia and Finland. Ha ha! Oh, how wrong

he was. Well, you did mention Bulgaria. We should have sent Spencer Pratt. to the Eurovision. He would have swept it. He would have. All right, now we go to the I put "Ug" clip. I put "Ug" because this is a real groaner, this clip. But Bulgaria is lurking on the outside. Lurking. Now, the Bulgarian singer Dara, she used to suffer from a compulsion where she couldn't leave her house unless her makeup was perfect. And I don't

say this in a joking way, it was clinical. If her eyebrows weren't painted on perfectly, she would experience so much anxiety. Oh, give this guy the hook. There is a traditional ceremony in Bulgaria, Kerkara, I believe, and they expel evil spirits. So on stage, she has people with bad makeup sitting in chairs, there's plastic on their face, and they perform a dance to drive out the anxiety, to drive out the evil. But she does this with

a box that looks like an office. You're not aware of the audience, even though there are tens of thousands of people out there. It's creating a music video universe on a stage. It is remarkable. And just to close off the circle about the favorites, you've got Finland. My goodness. If Australia is about emotional connection with the singer and the audience. Finland is about emotional disconnection because you have a man and a woman on stage. The woman

is 56-year-old violinist Linda Lampinius, and she's deliberately icy. She doesn't look at anyone. She's avoiding Pete. She says that she is like a flamethrower, Lika Heiten in Finnish, because she'd warm up and people would be drawn to her, but then she would just get cold as ice and walk away. And so their dynamic, his fire, her ice, it creates smoke. Why are you torturing us with this? I've never done this. Can I get some of President

Trump's bleach to drink, please? Well, I think it's about time we got to the nitty gritty of this piece of shit. Okay. And this is it. The ridiculous over-analysis of stupid acts. Oh, the woman has anxiety attacks because her makeup isn't correct. And she's the one who won. Yeah. Yes. because of bad makeup. I mean, this whole thing is ludicrous. And every year we talk about it, we do normally predict with some accuracy, I might say, even though we would have missed it this year because

who would have booked this one, Gary? I know, we were too busy looking at the news. Well, we were excised from the prediction by the cosmic forces because it

was impossible for us to predict. That's my thing. thinking all right and that's in line with the kind of stupidity that we're listening to now so let's go on with clip three well he talked about anxiety earlier there was a bit of anxiety quite a lot of anxiety i guess around israel's participation five countries boycotting it how did their entry perform how did it all go down Indeed. Yeah, I think... What does that even mean? Here's what I think. If I'm not correct, if I'm not

mistaken. The Euro- Night career. If I'm not corrupted. If I'm not correct, then I'll be correct because that's rule one. I'm always correct. I believe that these broadcasters are all public broadcasters. I think that's part of the hook. And that's why you've got Israel has public broadcasting. Australia has public broadcasting. Canada, are they in this thing? Wouldn't surprise me. They've all got public broadcasting. And I

think you have to be a public broadcaster. So this is kind of, this is their Super Bowl where they all get to, you know, get drunk. and hang out and party. because it's kind of their party. I think that's what's behind all this. But so how's that make him competitive? *laughs* and jeering in the audience. But this year, we didn't have the same amount of booing, if any. Certainly in the final, I didn't hear any this evening. A lot of that comes down to the subject

matter. The song that the Israeli actor Noam Betten is singing is Michelle. Michelle is a woman. and they had a toxic relationship, and you can't really read that politically. Whereas in the past years, people imbued meaning into the songs. For instance, in 2024, the original title of Israel's entry was October Rain. Many people interpreted that to be a story about the October 7th attacks, and the following year, their singer, she actually survived. the October 7th attacks,

she herself hid under dead bodies. Now, that's not a political statement. That's what she's endured. But people imbued it with meaning, suggesting, oh, Israel chose an act because they wanted to court sympathy on the international stage. But again, we need to remember, art is one of the times of the zeitgeist. You know, what is personal? What is political? These subjects are often very gray. Hold on. I have to subscribe to the RSS feed of the WeWe

blog now. This is so awesome. unbelievable. Yes, it's unbelievable. You could have done one clip of this guy. I'm sorry that I'm belaboring it because I hope this is the last time we ever talk about it. No, no, no. I mean, I was gonna do one clip and then play snippets of the two songs, the one and two. That's all I was gonna do. That's what we do with the signal. Well, you got usurped. Indeed. And pushed. I don't know if it's a good thing for

the show. I think it's hurting the show. Indeed, and... It probably is. Let's turn to the... the voting because that for a lot of people that that's always been one of the highlights not just the singing but the voting and it's changed this year to give a better balance between the musical juries and the general public Yeah, you're right. There were two big changes. One change is that the professional juries in each country, they've been increased.

So last year there were five jurors. This year, there are seven jurors, and they have to include more people under 30 or 25, basically making them younger and more diverse. The other big change is that rather than voting 20 times per person, which was allowed in previous years, you could only vote 10 times. Now, this is off

the back of the revelation following last year's Eurovision. that an Israeli government agency was involved in buying ads on YouTube and other social media platforms calling on voters to vote for Israel 20 times. Now, the reason voters can vote multiple times is because the European Union... I pulled this stunt at a, uh... Hello. chili cook-off for the

People's Choice Awards. Wait, you bought votes? Well, we had a couple of... of uh chorus girls at the booth and talking everyone into turning all their votes into our jar. So they would sweet talk these guys. How many votes you got? Yeah, we got 10 votes. Just give us all 10 votes. It would be so nice. And so we ended up getting a lot of extra votes using that trick. But it's idiotic if you think about it. You should have one vote. You get to vote for the one you think's the best. You don't get

10 votes and give them all to one guy. I can't even discuss this. with you. The European Broadcasting Union wants to spread the love. It wants people to be engaged with all cultures, all musical cultures. I'm letting it play out out of respect for you. 18 years of respect. That music comes from friends or from foes, but it seems to have backfired in the last edition where you had advertisements saying, no, don't spread the love. Give it all to us. So this year that's been reduced.

to 10. We'll have to wait and see if that has any sort of impact on the results. We're almost at the end. I think 21st group at the moment, five ladies from Cyprus performing. Any sort of surprises? Any artists that stood out for you that aren't among the favourites? No, no. I'm all the way now. They'll be performing next to last in 20... Oh my goodness. The song is called "Choke Me" which is very provocative and a lot of people were offended. There was a petition

to have it removed. But the singer has explained through her staging she is saying "Choke Me" to a phantom. Oh. "Choke Me." How come "Choke Me" didn't win? Let's just listen very quickly to the "Island" Rayleigh entry. Michelle, we'll just listen to a little bit here. We'll jump around. I'm doing this so that Spotify will take this episode off of their podcast features. Here we go. Okay, that's rejected. And here is the winner. Bangaranga! Let's see if I'm winner voted for this. No, I can see

it. Drop! Yeah. Alright, let's leave it. Bangaranga, here we go. Oh, I see. A little bit of Bollywood's in there. Yeah, I get it. Kids like that. It's great. All right, 15 minutes of the show. Very good. Very good. Yeah. Very, very good. Okay, well, that's the end of that. It is. Let me, let me, let's go

into some Trump hate. Ooh, yeah, we haven't done some proper Trump hate recently. That's true. Since I stopped getting the TikTok clips. Well, this is a semi-mainstream media Trump hate. And it started with... Let me see. with the chattering class, as we call it, the chattering class. Listen to how Megyn Kelly introduces her guest. All right. We're going to bring in our very first guest, very first guest ever here on the MK show. That's the podfather

of our show, Glenn Greenwald, I speak of. He's a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist. and host of System Update on Substack. Help me understand this. I mean, it's one thing never to ask me back on the show. I mean, it's pretty... Well, you were... I thought you were an ungrateful guest. What do you mean ungrateful guest? So she has Glenn Greenwald on the show. He knows the podfather somehow. Well, he's her podfather. I used to be her podfather. I can be the podfather, but I'm not her

podfather. Okay. And so, Megyn Kelly, captured by her audience. Glenn Greenwald, he never got uncaptured. I think he's always been kind of the same. Self-hating Jew. Uh, they, uh, they just have to lay into it. I thought this was, uh... Career ending. I didn't know this took place, but I'm glad you got this clip. Oh, no, she had Tucker on. She got Glenn Greenwald on. It's fantastic. There was an admission on. The Iran war, which jumped out at me, and it might to you too. Here

it is in Sat 7. By the way, so that show, here it is in slot seven. And then you get a three-second pause. Please appreciate your no agenda show when you hear these things. You know, this is not pro. Me and it might to you too. Here it is in SOT7. We're doing it to help Israel and to help Saudi Arabia and to help Qatar and UAE and, you know, Kuwait and other countries. Bahrain. It also helps China. We're actually, I told him today, I said, you know, we're helping you and we're helping you in

another way. because I don't think China wants Iran to have a nuclear weapon either. I said... Don't go crazy. You don't need them having a nuclear weapon either. What did he say? Well, he's not going to respond to much. He's a pretty cool guy. He's not going to say, oh, gee, that's a good point. What's he going to do? Oh, I mean, What a wonderful point. You think he agreed? That was the impression. I don't think he wants him to. No, he would like to see

it end. But he's been good about it, you know. So there it is. I mean, lest there was any doubt, it's the first thing in the answer. We did it to help Israel. We're doing it to help Israel. He named other countries. He has said the world can't have Iran having a nuclear weapon. But just to say that is so controversial, that we're doing it to help Israel. We know. We know that. We've said that many times. And then you get called an anti-Semite. But that's

not anti-Semitic. It is a fact. You heard it from the president of the United States himself. He thinks it's also helping some of the Gulf Arab states. Fine. That's not controversial. You can say that. But prior to the president saying it himself explicitly, you weren't allowed to say that other piece of it or you were called an anti-Semite. Why? She's so uptight about this. Call me an anti-Semite. You couldn't say this. You're a podcaster. You can say whatever you want to say. Why do you care?

I don't know, it's weird. Here comes Greenwald. This was a movement that was calling itself America First. And then you have Trump saying, oh yeah, this will work. It's kind of helping us. We don't want them to have a nuclear weapon. But yeah, we're helping Israel. Get rid of their big enemy. I think he editorialized that a little bit. These people are insane about this stuff. And so the way they take the president's statement is, oh, it's about Israel. Oh,

yeah. Yeah, just helping Israel get rid of their big enemy. Of course, Trump mentioned a whole bunch of other countries, but Glenn Greenwald has an answer for that, too. And also, when we talk about these Persian Gulf states, what we mean are Persian Gulf dictatorships, Arab dictatorships that have extreme levels of human rights abuses that we claim to be so offended when they appear in Iran. You think protesters fare any better in Dubai or in Riyadh

or in Doha? There's no one protesting in Dubai. I think they're all pretty happy with things in Dubai. Riyadh, are they protesting? Should they be protesting? Am I missing something? I don't know. Maybe they should. In Bahrain or Kuwait? No. Or then Iran? No, they don't. And this idea, you know, and also the Strait of Hormuz, Trump himself said at the beginning out of frustration, look, if you're not willing to go to a war with Iran to open the Strait of Hormuz, we don't have to

do it. We don't need the Strait of Hormuz, which is true. We don't get oil from the Strait of Hormuz. China does, and the Gulf states need the Strait of Hormuz to sell oil. But Trump is in bed with these Persian Gulf dictators. He loves them too. They're extremely rich. They have a kind of shared aesthetic with this very ostentatious, gold-laden kind of, you know. Trump is now a Middle Eastern dictator, you see. This is where it's gone. But you do have the taste for gold,

I have to say. Totally. I mean, if you go look at that BBC video of me in 2004, I had the same thing. But yet I never felt like a Middle East dictator was my style. This gold-laden kind of wealth expression. He loves them. His family is in bed with the Persian Gulf states. In bed. And he's very close to them. He listens to them and obviously to Israel. And I don't think these are good things

for our country. Why are we prosecuting a war that's harming Americans for the benefits of Israel or these Persian

Gulf dictators? and on the question of china yeah i mean opening up the strait of hormuz is far more in china's than ours the problem is is that the only reason the strait of hormuz is closed is because israel is because the united states joined israel and attacking iran it was perfectly open the strait of hormuz was prior to this war for forever perfectly forever closed now closed now because it was a response to the attack on Iran. And I think the rest of the world

is like, you caused this problem. It's your responsibility to fix it. And I think it's a reasonable view for most countries to have. So I played these clips. First of all, I thought it was kind of funny. But second of all, they are now so much like the mainstream media. They don't really look at anything further than the surface. I think they're watching MS now and CNN and Fox probably to get their talking points almost. I mean, this whole trip to China, as you, I mean,

it was ridiculous. It made no sense. Everything was wrong. It's stupid. Trump came back with nothing. Let's go to MS now. When Donald Trump was running for president, you may remember this. He had a question he loved to ask, a particular thought experiment about a tête-à-tête between Vice President Harris and President Xi. And it went like this. Kamala Harris is so incompetent. Can you imagine her dealing with President Xi of China? Can you imagine her dealing

with President Xi? Can you imagine with President Xi? Can you imagine her negotiating with President Xi of China? Can you imagine her standing with President Xi of China? By the way, nice supercut. I don't think so. Can you imagine? He said that so many times. I mean, Trump spent that campaign railing about China's influence in the world, and he repeatedly insisted that he alone was the only candidate tough enough to go toe-to-toe with President Xi of

China. He was the only person who could show Xi who's boss. Well, Donald Trump just finished his first state visit to China in his second term, and how did

it go? did big bad donald trump stand up to the chinese leader i mean this is exactly the same as megan and glenn there's no analysis they're just doing hot takes like punch lines yeah that's a good point that's just a hot take yeah and so let's get the exact right word for it ambassador mcfall let me start with you ambassador mcfall here we go this guy's good outline some of the biggest issues that were at stake during this visit we talked about this late last

night when it was the trip was still a bit ongoing but as you looked it's now over what did trump and really the united states get out of this trip well what do you think john what do you think they got out of this to get anything out of this trip anything at all anything mrs anything um i think they got something out of it I think the Boeing, impossible sales of Boeing jets was a big deal, especially if it was going to be 200 of them or more. Yeah. That was about it, seems to

me. And they got to meet, and then Trump got to show off to all these our own business guys that he knows this guy, she, and they can introduce him to him. Hey, you can meet the guy. You meet him, shake his hand, and we're all good to go. I think that's a big deal. There's actually more. But yeah, there was that. There was some soybeans. Always some soybeans. Oh, there's always soybeans. Gotta do some soybeans. But let's hear what Ambassador McFaul thinks. Chen, you just

summarized it brilliantly. That was a fantastic laydown. And I'm so glad you reminded everybody about what he said he was going to do with China. Remember, when he first ran for president, it was all about China. China's eating our lunch. China's taking our jobs. They're doing all these horrible things to us. And he used in that phrase, that clip you just showed, communist China, right? You never heard him use the word communist once on this trip. And I just think this flip is remarkable. And I

hope his voters noticed it. I hope Republicans noticed it because for decades. Notice what? The Republican Party was always saying Democrats are weak on China. We're going to be tough. And now he is completely flipped. You could not do a bigger flip. So again, he do. Well, he he was just nice. He didn't say you're always bitching and moaning that he's not nice and he has no decorum. And he goes over there and he becomes nice. And now they're complaining about that. It's all they do

is complain. It gets better. I think an acronym you could use to summarize not just this meeting, but everything leading up to it is make China great again. When you look at the impact of the Trump president. Make China great again. Trump screwed it up, only made China stronger. The real winner has been China. And the loser

has been America's allies and America itself. And what's really extraordinary about it, Ali, is President Trump was elected beginning in 2016 in large part because he was really one of the first U.S. leaders who recognized the way that China's entry to the WTO was contributing to the hollowing out of the U.S. middle class. Wow, the very same people who told him that he was racist and he was going to kill people by withdrawing from all of

these organizations. All they do is counter-programming all the time. One of his promises to American Rust Belt workers was he was going to fix it. But instead, what we see he's doing is bullying reporters, beating up on America's closest friends and allies. Oh, no. And frankly, seeming cowed by China. Again. No. Well, let's go to the liberal

intellectual elites, an acronym. will go to the liberal intellectual elites who everybody listens to because their pod is by far one of the most important and smart, smart tech pods. It also, I mean, it's a reminder of the stark contrast in the first Trump term. I'm sorry, this isn't the pod, but it's one of the hosts of the pod. What pod are we talking about? We're talking about the pivot pod. And how the business community treated. Kara Schwisher. You see, she gets to be on CNN

now that she has a show on CNN. You see, that's how it works. Yeah, she wants to live forever. And what we're seeing now, I mean, so many people were critical of that inauguration seating chart. But this is kind of evidence of probably a big driving factor for that. So they could go on trips like this. Well, as I said, it's a coin-operated presidency. And they figured out very quickly that you put money in and you get it. Coin-operated presidency. She's going to explain it. Oh,

that's cute. She's going to explain it. Boy, that's going to catch on. All the kids are talking about it. And they figured out very quickly that you put money in and you get stuff out. Like Andreessen Horowitz spending the most money towards the midterms. They understand it's a very small amount of money to spend $115 million because they get so much more. They get billions and billions out of it. And so they've sort of figured out it's a cheap way to get what you want. And that's

what they're doing. And they will continue to do that because shareholders, as I've said over and over again, are their biggest goal. And that's fine, I suppose. Shareholders are a goal? That's pretty explicit. Now, she's just waffling. You know, without Galloway, she's no good. She really isn't. Then she is just, she is icky. She's gone and she's like a single now. You know, she's like one of the people that were in the Rolling Stones. decided to become a single act. And so she's... When

Charlie Watts did his jazz album. So she quit the group to become a single because she's such a demand for it. And so this dog of this I want to live forever thing, which is overproducing, costs a lot of money, is going to cost CNN. She's going to disappear from the scene after that thing, after they analyze that sucker. So we'll see what happens. All right, so

now here they are together on the pod. He brought 17 CEOs with him and three diplomats. Flying billionaires on a plane to China to get shit seems... Oh, by the way, she has a really foul mouth in this one. Problematic. Hi, everyone. This is Pivot from New York Magazine and the Vox Media Podcast Network. I'm Kara Swisher. And I'm Scott Galloway. President Trump. Oh, can we start the show like that? I'm Adam Curry. And you go, and I'm John C. Dvorak. I think we should start...

Let's do it. Yeah, okay. everybody's doing the bangaranga and broadcasting live from the heart of the texas hill country here in fema region number six in the morning everybody i'm adam curry and i'm john c dvorak excellent excellent i'm kara swisher and i'm sky galloway president trump and uh chinese president xi uh have met for a little over two hours right now and attended a state banquet to start off their two-day summit in china in g's opening toast at the banquet g said achieving the great

rejuvenation of the chinese nation and making america great again can go hand in hand he's snickering at trump on his back though the white house said both sides agreed that the straight of her moves must remain open she warned that trump that mishandling taiwan would cause clashes and put the entire relationship in great jeopardy what just happened oh it ended well well there you go One more. One more from these Jim Oaks. It's short. President Trump,

however, does not appear to be overly concerned. Let's listen to how he answered a reporter's question as he left the White House for his China trip. When you're negotiating with Iran, Mr. President, to what extent are American financial situations motivating you to make a deal? Not even a little bit. The only thing that matters when I'm talking about Iran, they can't have a nuclear weapon. I don't think about American financial situation. I don't think about anybody.

I think about one thing. We cannot let Iran have a nuclear weapon. That's all. That's the only thing that Mono did. Oh, wow. That was some quote. That was like an ad. He cut an ad for them. That was astonishing, I have to say. I mean, it's what

I think he thinks. And this nuclear weapon thing, we're less safe now than we were doing the Obama days when we had most of the enriched uranium in a deal and the state of her moves was open so any thoughts about what he's doing here why or he's just just an old adult man who just says whatever's on his mind so this was indeed the ad and all of the m5m jumped on this oh he doesn't care in fact there's always one guy in the troll room who always who basically should be on the pivot

pod yeah screw Americans, right? You don't care, but you don't care. They all did this. They all jumped up. He doesn't care about your money. He only cares about nuclear war. President Trump is back at the White House and back to the reality in the United States of

gas prices, which are now averaging $4.53 a gallon nationally. If you thought that after a couple of days away during his trip to China and when asked exactly what he meant when he answered that question that he was going to rephrase or clarify what he said about Americans financial situations when it comes to the impact from the Iran war you would be wrong. Hold on a second that sounds like MS now. The CNN. Oh the CNN? That's

Caitlin Collins. Okay it seems to me yes the Democrats who have been fighting against fossil fuels forever and would love a $10 a gallon gas price to keep people from using gasoline should be happy about this. How come they're bitching about it? Can you answer me that question? Because this is all about the midterms. That's all that it is. Everything in the world is about the midterms. It's

just the midterms. The context and the question itself was pretty clear, but also in the subsequent interview that the president did while he was in Beijing with Brett Baier. And in fact, during that interview, the president continued doubling

down on this sentiment. When you tell somebody you're going to have to pay a little more, not that much more, a little more for gas, Celine, for a very short period of time, because we want to stop the threat of being blown to pieces by a lunatic, by a crazy person, and they are crazy, using nuclear weapons. Everybody says that's fine. And that question was a fake question, and they didn't put my full answer. I totally

care. Of course, to people struggling to put food on the table or who are grimacing when they go to fill up their tank. Vote Democrat. There was nothing fake about the question. And as far as the president's answer. We've played the entire thing for you since he said it as he was departing the White House earlier this week. But just for good measure, you can listen to the entire thing. OK, good measure. Here we go. Mr. President, to what extent are American financial situations motivating you

to make a deal? Not even a little bit. The only thing that matters when I'm talking about Iran, they can't have a nuclear weapon. I don't think about American

financial situation. I don't think about anybody i think about one thing we cannot let iran have a nuclear weapon that's all that's the only thing that so it's subtle it's very subtle chopping off the front end of it but i think it matters so anyway let's find out exactly what the i don't know financial people think of the trip and if they felt it was any good this is cnbc i like cnbc because they kind of have to tell the truth is difficult for them sometimes,

especially for the Sorkin kid. But they have to tell the truth because, you know, people invest on it and otherwise people won't watch their stupid network anymore. So here we go. President Xi has already issued a warning to President Trump saying that the Taiwan question is the most important issue in the China-U.S. relation. And if not handled properly, these two countries could have clashes and even conflicts. What do you make of this warning? That's a very

good question. And that's probably the biggest concern for people like myself living in Taiwan. In a summer, there are three subjects Trump want to talk about. Number one is Iran and war, because they want to reduce inflation with more supply of oil. Number two is trade. That's why Trump got all the CEOs, NVIDIA, Apple, et cetera, to China about trade. Number three is Taiwan. But from Xi's perspective, the order importance is reversed. For Xi's perspective, Taiwan

is number one subject, number one importance. So if you listened, and I'm just going to think it's true, I don't know, it could be total bull crap. But if you listen to some of the interviews, it seems like some other deals were made that are relevant to our relationship with China. Let me ask you this. The issue, and you've been asked about it, and you've spoken about it, and that is China's support of Iran. How big a discussion was that today? We discussed it. We discussed

it. I mean, when you say support, they're not fighting a war with us or anything. No. He said he's not going to give military equipment. That's a big statement. He said that today. That's a big statement. He said that strongly. But at the same time, he said, you know, they buy a lot of their oil there and they'd like to keep doing that. He'd like to see Hormuz straight opened. I said, well, we didn't stop it. They did it. Then we stopped them. You know, sort

of interesting. He joked. He said, you know, sort of if they stopped it, then you stopped them. But they'd like to see it opened. But they actually closed it. He didn't like the fact that they're charging tolls. I don't know if they are or not. I don't know who would pay them. I mean, where do they put the money? The country's decimated. They're charging tolls. Where's the money going? Do you think President Xi and China have the ability to influence the Iranians, considering they are one

of their biggest customers? I love how he's not going to give a truthful answer. He's like, I'm not going to tell you that. Look, he's not coming in with guns. He's not coming in with rifles and not coming in shooting. He's been very good. they get a lot of their oil, 40% of their oil from that location. So what has happened, and one thing I think that we're going to make a deal on, they've agreed they want to buy oil from the United States. They're going

to go to Texas. We're going to start sending Chinese ships to Texas and to Louisiana and to Alaska. All right, let's go to CNBC with our Secretary of Energy, Chris Wright. You said short term. Should we, should the world get prepared for maybe a longer supply disruption than some initially suspected? Because give us your view on where we stand in the Strait of Hormuz right now, if you would, Mr. Secretary. And also, what are your estimations about how long things might take to return to normal?

And I hate that term, but I think you know what I mean. Yeah, but a lot of that's up to Iran. One way or the other, we will see an end to the Iranian nuclear program, and we will see free flow of traffic through the Straits of Hormuz. That could happen relatively rapidly with an agreement with Iran. Every nation in the world is standing against what Iran is doing. including China, who's a major buyer of Iranian oil and other oil from the Arabian Gulf. Do you think they'll

swap that out for U.S. oil? It's kind of what I asked you at the top of the interview. Yeah, certainly in the short run, they're going to do that. They'll continue to buy, and I think, growing amounts of U.S. oil. You know, you see that Chinese ships are getting to the Straits of Hormuz, because I think we control it. I don't think Iran controls it. I think we're just sitting there like, oh, this is great, until you want to buy our insurance and use our new

shipping infrastructure. You can do whatever you want. Come to Louisiana. Come to Texas. Best price. Everything's going to be good. And in the background, we've got UAE and their pipeline. And eventually, this thing will open up. And I think you're going to see the price of oil go just – you okay? Yeah, sorry. Just dive bomb. It seems so clear, even looking at the futures. Yeah, but don't we want to sell them oil at a little higher price to make a little extra money? Well, yeah.

And we also want to do the insurance. We want to take this away from the British guys. We want to run that. We've seen Saudi Arabia go full flow to the Red Sea with their port of Yambou. Do you think that the Strait of Hormuz and the Arabian Gulf are going to become permanently less important? They're still massively important, but less important than they have been? Oh, absolutely. I mean, Iran, this is a card you can play once. You can play once. We'll see more pipeline

capacity through Saudi, through UAE. You know, there's an Iraqi pipeline that goes to Chehan in Turkey. We could see a pipeline going to Jordan. Hey, maybe that's why Turkey tried to get involved. Remember Turkey was trying to get involved in the conversation? Yeah, they were actually. Yeah, I think, hey, we got a pipeline. Send it our way. This is good. Saudi through UAE. You know, there's an Iraqi pipeline that goes to Chehan in Turkey. We could

see a pipeline going to Jordan. There'll be other routes for energy to get out of the Persian Gulf. I prefer to call it the Arabian Gulf. Ooh, we're renaming it. I think we will see it. How about the Gulf of America? Yeah, could you know the one of those? Out of the Persian Gulf. I prefer to call

it the Arabian Gulf. But yeah, I think we will see a decreasing importance from the Strait of Hormuz, but not a decreasing importance of those nations energy production and energy supply yeah they're great allies of the united states they're key energy suppliers to the world yeah i i think they have they have some kind of plan that they're executing on, and Rubio's, Lubio, I'm sorry, President Lubio is aware of it. Is there anything you can shed light on that? Well, I think the details will be

announced later today. I don't want to get ahead of the actual announcement by the trade representative, but there's going to be some agricultural purchases which are important, and they're important for our growers, and China needs those things. We hope in the future to expand it to energy purchase. The United States is a net supplier of energy now to the world. one of the world's, if not the

world's largest energy supplier at this point. Obviously, when it comes to the airplanes and the engines, those are American factories and American workers that are making that. And so anytime you can gain access to a market as large as this one, that's a very positive thing. Yeah, I still believe in the ARC model, America, Russia, China. Look, you can buy some from Russia. We're not going to make a problem out of it. We're not going to sanction the ghost ships. Just do it, do it legally.

You're going to have to pay more, but, you know, just get on board with everybody else. And then that strait will eventually open up. It could take another four or five months for all I know. I don't think it's going to take forever. You know, there may be something to the, you know, our basic thesis on the show was always there's a back channel in Iran. Yes. We were working with them in some way, shape or

form. Has that disappeared or are we still, is it possible that we're still working with them and all this is part of a giant scheme? Completely possible. And getting rid of the Ayatollah guys was part of it because the real powers in Iran didn't want them around. They were annoying. It was super annoying. Well, they're very annoying. In this way, remember the turban knockers, the kids going bicycles and knock their turbans off. Yeah, I forgot about

that. Well, we already know that there's more hijabs on the streets of Amsterdam than the streets of Tehran. Yes, right. You got that information from a boots on the

ground report. Yeah, so things are... By the way, I got a boots on the ground from one of our producers. He says, everybody... Let me just find it here. Everybody's bugging... Or he says, boogieing out of Kuwait due to imminent action. Sunday was what we had been told and why we bugged out. All contractors plus non-essential personnel evacuated. This has to do with all GCC countries. Quote, Trump is done effing around. Xi is handled. Oil being

sold from the U.S. CIA Mossad insurgency. Hmm. We have served as the sheriff of the world. A lot of colonists here. Well, he's a military guy. We've served as the sheriff of the world. We're cleaning up European colonies. So there's a lot in here, but there's supposedly something might be happening today, and everybody's getting out. So I don't know. Maybe this will come to a quicker end than we thought. Well, it has to, in my opinion, because we still have the problem with the 4th of

July. Yes, yes. We don't need anything, the sort of Damocles hanging over our heads on the 4th of July in our celebration of 250 years as a country. You know, speaking of Greek references, Chris, the Knight of the Iguana, he said he had a slight correction to the Thysudides. Thysudides. Thysudides, yes. We can't pronounce it. He says the Thysidides trap warns the upcoming power, not the dominant one. Athens was the rising power. Sparta was gunning for

him. If you take the Thysidides trap as it was originally written. Thucydides. Thucydides. It's impossible to say. I know. Let's just call it T-trap. If you take the T-trap, which is kind of cool with China. China is in danger of the trap not the USA so even this phony baloney thing that the M5M was bantering about they didn't even get it right although I'm sure what? although I'm sure in a future dictionary the Thucydides trap will be reversed just like decimated yeah decimated It'll just be

reversed. Meanwhile, Cuba on deck. You recall the president said that on our way home from Iran, we'll park off the shore of Cuba and we'll say, hey, we're taking you over, and they'll say, okay, we're good, we're ready. Yeah, I got a couple of clips on this. Oh, okay. Let's play your clips. Well, let's start with the blackouts one and two. Okay. Cuba blackout, yep. First up today, Cuba. This week, the island ran out of oil, causing massive blackouts across the country and a night of

protests. Havana. protests. What is, who is this? Is this, that's what's her name. The black chick that works on the weekends at NPR. Yeah. NPR. And she just, I don't know. She just doesn't want to pronounce words. Correct. Also got a visit from the CIA director. He was there for negotiations, starting with a tough choice for Cuba's leaders. Change or the U S will act. NPR international correspondent Eder Peralta is following it all and joins us

now. Good morning, Eder. Hey, good morning, Alyssa. So let's start with more details from what looks like a week with a lot going on in Cuba. Yeah, I mean, we're reaching summer there, so it's really hot. And it so happens that the lights went off for more than 24 hours this week. So on Wednesday, very unhappy people took to the streets of Havana. They banged on pots and pans demanding that the government turn the lights back

on. And the government didn't offer much hope. The country's energy minister, Vicente de la O. Levi, came on TV and said that the 100,000 tons of Russian crude that arrived in April has been used up and that the grid is now operating essentially without reserves. And remember that Cuba has received precious little oil because the U.S. is running a de facto oil blockade. Cuba has been investing in solar power, but the grid is so old, so frail, so lacking in maintenance that it can't handle the

voltage fluctuations that happen with solar energy. So that means that the long blackouts that are making life miserable on the island are here to stay. No, because we're coming to the rescue. Is that what you have in clip two? No, clip two is a little different. I think clip three maybe, which is a different clip. But yeah. And while all this is happening, the director of the CIA lands in the country? Yeah. Cuba says that the U.S. asked for a high-level meeting and a delegation headed

by CIA Director John Ratcliffe. By the way, when the CIA director comes to visit your country, typically not a good thing. Why is he there? Last time a CIA director visited a country, we got Ukraine. Yeah. I'm wondering this myself. They say, well, they want a high-level meeting. why don't they send Rubio? Rubio is the obvious choice. He's Cuban or any number of people. Rubio, of course, would be the top guy. But they send a CIA director because they want to highlight. Well, this just means

something's up. Yeah, I don't like it either. It's very suspicious. Landed in Havana. Well, I mean, I don't disagree.

like it because something's up and maybe it should be but okay the cubans say they made it clear that they don't pose a security threat to the u.s they say they don't host any foreign military or intelligence bases on the island the u.s readout of the visit came out from a cia official speaking to npr on condition of anonymity and that official said that ratcliffe came with a message for cuba and that's that the u.s wants to quote seriously engage on economic and security issues but

only Only if Cuba makes fundamental changes. I've spoken to Cuban officials and they have been fairly consistent in saying that they are open to economic reforms on the island. They're even open to U.S. investment, they say, but that they will not, especially not under pressure from the United States, give up their president or change their one party system or for that matter, their socialist ideology. I think the question is whether those things are the changes that

the U.S. considers fundamental. So what? I mean, does this point to a stalemate? neither side is going to budge? I think you could read it that way. And that's consequential because President Trump has threatened military action. But I had a conversation with Lilian Guerra, a Cuban historian. Has he threatened military action? I'm wondering. I don't remember that. I mean, nothing to the likes of, you know, like we're going to remove a civilization. I don't recall that.

Neither side is going to budge? I think you could read it that way. And that's consequential because President Trump has threatened military action. But I had a conversation with Lilian Guerra, a Cuban historian at the University of Florida, and she sees both sides softening. The Vatican, for example, has been instrumental in bridging gaps between the U.S. and Cuba. And it's notable that Secretary of State Marco Rubio

met recently with Pope Leo. The U.S. has also offered Cuba $100 million in aid, and Cuba has said they would take it. And importantly, Cuba also released a high-profile prisoner on Thursday. Guerra's read is that the situation is so dire in Cuba that both sides are afraid of an explosion. Do you mind if I just insert one clip here? Go ahead. Because. But I want to mention something, which is the fact that it didn't make a lot of sense that Rubio is going to meet with the

Pope. Well, maybe he's a Catholic. But now it makes a little sense that it's part of the scheme. Yes, I have. And by the way, that kind of reconfirms the fact that a communist system really should get rid of religions if it wants to succeed. I mean, the thesis in Russia was, let's get rid of the Russian Orthodox Church. Let's, you know, put it into the background because we don't need outside influence, which the Pope is, telling people how to think or how to behave because

it hurts the communist system. I just found it kind of ironic that they screwed up that part of it. Well, so I just put a couple things together in my tiny brain. So we've got Rubio talking to the Pope. The Pope is the head of the Catholic Church. What is the original acronym for CIA? Are you talking your tiny brain or the brain in your head? No, that's the tiny brain in my head. It's very tiny. That other tiny brain is somewhere else. It has a mind of its own. Sorry, I was... Rubio talks to

the Pope. The Pope is the head of the Catholic Church. What is the original acronym that we always laugh about for the CIA, of which the director was just there? Catholics in Action. Catholics in Action. Now listen to this. Just go to Jen, because, you know, Jen, Patrick and I were talking yesterday about the possibility, of course, of this offer of $100 million that we're hearing now, that

Ireland appears willing to accept. Do we have a sense from this meeting, the CIA, what you are hearing as well, What kind of reforms they're likely to see, right? They want to see and how quickly. Well, Isa, in addition to those security reforms that Patrick laid out that came up in that meeting with the CIA director yesterday, they are also pushing what they describe as economic reforms on the island, essentially opening it up to private investment.

This was something that was a key focus of a different visit by U.S. officials last month to the island where they met with senior Cuban officials. And they were saying they needed to make these economic reforms in addition to those security reforms in the near term or else they would continue to face a catastrophic situation. Now, it is clear here that these economic restrictions are going to remain in place unless these alleged reforms are taken by

the Cuban government. However, the State Department says that they are willing to offer this $100 million in humanitarian aid only if it is given through the Catholic Church or independent organizations on the ground. They say that this is the key string that is attached to this offer, that it has to be distributed through these independent organizations. Now, a senior State Department official said that they have been in

touch. They have reached out to the Cuban government through what they described as a senior channel between the State Department and senior leadership in Havana about this aid. Cuban officials have indicated that they would be willing to accept it if there weren't conditions on it. So now take what you just said. So the State Department says, Rubio goes to the Pope and says, Hey, Pope, hey, Leo, you're from Chicago. You know how to deal with me. We can talk. We can talk business. So we're going

to give $100 million for Cuba. We want you guys to be in charge of doling it out because there's nothing more embarrassing towards a communist system than the church coming in and telling them what to do. That's actually kind of genius. I love that. My donations clip, which is the third clip I've got on Cuba, has a similar kind of, they bring the UN into it and how they do it. We don't want to deal with them. It's kind of interesting. It's similar to your clip, but

to play it anyway. The United Nations is trying to raise more money for aid to Cuba, where a major energy crisis threatens health care and food production on the island. But NPR's Michelle Kellerman reports the United States says it won't contribute to the UN's efforts. The U.N.'s Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs says it has raised only 30 percent of the $94 million it needs for Cuba. Fuel shortages have created what one top official called a

multifaceted emergency. The State Department tells NPR that the U.S. will not give any money to the U.N. in Cuba, stating, quote, the U.N. in Cuba has long colluded with the regime. The statement goes on to explain that Secretary of State Marco Rubio has offered $100 million in goods to be delivered by the Catholic Church or other, quote, independent and respected organizations. This is like a huge FU. Like, okay, you need some diesel. Clearly, you need some diesel.

We got a Jesus boat with some diesel on it coming your way. But, you know, we got to have the Catholic guys run everything now. I mean, it's such a slap. It's quite funny. It is funny. And also, you know that they're going to do the right thing. Because you know, the whole point is stop the communists. You know, if Rubio goes and says, well, you can't be commies anymore. We're like, no, we don't want to do that. You know, that'll be a huge problem. But

now you just bring in the Catholic Church. I'm like, well, you know, we owe you one. I think it's funny. It's a very strange situation. And out of the blue, I mean, this whole Cuban thing was not part of the campaign that Trump ran. It wasn't even discussed. It's like a whole new idea. Somehow, I think, you know, to be honest about it, it has to be Rubio behind the whole thing. He's the Cuban in the administration. And the Catholic. And the Catholic. Yeah. And a

friend of the Pope. Yeah, buddy-buddy. Trying to iron things out between him and Trump in this phony baloney feud that they really don't have. Yeah, precisely. But the media loves that because, oh, Trump hates Catholics. Well, what's Rubio doing there? It doesn't make any sense. It's good. I think, isn't J.D. Vance a born-again Catholic? Didn't he join the Catholic Church late in life or something? I don't know. Is he a Catholic or is he a born-again

Christian? No, I think he's a Catholic. Look it up. I think he's a Catholic. Well, we don't look things up on this show. No, that's right. You can ask your buddy. We consult the Book of Knowledge. Here we go. Is J.D. Vance a Catholic or just a regular Christian? Regular. Let's find out. All right, Book of Knowledge. He's searching through all the pages. According to the Book of Knowledge, J.D. Vance is a Catholic of a very specific type, having converted to the Catholic Church in 2019.

He grew up loosely evangelical Christian, identified as an atheist as a young man, then reconnected with Christianity during law school before his formal conversion. Thus, it has been written. Hmm. Well, I guess he is a Catholic then. Yes, exactly right. Yeah. Anyway, so that'll be fun. That'll be fun to see. But the big thing is investment in the island, American investment. Yeah, it's about time. I mean, the Canadians have been investing there for a long time.

It's getting on our nerves. You know, they're putting money in. They've got property. This is a great place for it should be a vacation paradise. It's a new island right near Florida. Yeah, 90 miles away. Jamaica's getting old, you know. Virgin Islands, everything. Epstein Island. Everyone's been to all the islands. Let's go to Cuba. Cuba's always been big. It's always been, and it's got cigars. Cigars, cigars, cigars. Not only that, but the cigars are quite remarkable. Don't they have a drink

too? Don't they have some kind of drink that they're good at? A Cuban. Okay, thanks. Very helpful. I don't know. Very helpful. Mojito? I have no idea. yes the mojito all right okay where do you want to go now well i got a couple of shorties here that are that are interesting uh but let's say i've been wanting to get this out of the way cbs did a special on trolls on trolls yeah the psychology of

a troll wait a minute did they interview anybody from our troll room no they didn't interview any real trolls but the whole The subtext is that Trump is a terrible person because he's a troll. Oh, I see. So they're trying to deconstruct Trump by doing a story about trolls. That's my guess. But here's the two part, two clips. They're very short, but entertaining. Listen up, everybody. Arthur Brooks can eat a plate of hot trash. Huh? That was the first comment the CBS News contributor got on

one of his online columns. and his earliest experience of internet trolls. One of the things that we have seen since time immemorial is people with a pitchfork setting fire to people they don't like. That's right. Perhaps the main difference now is that they'd have to come back to their families and communities, and now they can hide behind the anonymity of an anonymous Twitter handle. It's the perfect

ecosystem for people that we call trolls today. And if you spend any time on social media or any time in the comments section after a news article, you're going to find that it gets really toxic really quickly so as a behavioral scientist and also as a writer in public i wanted to know who are these people and i started to do a little bit of research into it and it turns out they're not like just you and me it turns out they're different they're from the

seven percent of the population that have sociopathic characteristics they're disproportionately drawn from what we call dark triads people with narcissism Machiavellianism, meaning I'm willing to hurt you and even psychopathy they have psychopathic traits, meaning they feel no empathy or remorse, and they enjoy hurting you. And this is why we can't say that these are ordinary people. Well, maybe these trolls are actually awesome people now, the way

he described it. These are our people. These are narcissists. Yeah, these are our people. They're psychopaths. This is an offhanded attack on Trump. It's still our people. 7% are

in the troll room. true it's our people we have a lot of we do have a disproportionate number of people that would qualify yes and they should be proud of themselves they should be seven percent is actually fewer people than i expected yeah but you're disproportionately drawing from that population they're the ones that are actually trying to start internet conflict they're the ones who are actually insulting other people they're the ones who are actually trying to

get you all fired up because they enjoy seeing the emotional turmoil yes yes that is exactly them i love you people this is what you're doing yeah the jig is up we're on to you now we figured you out cbs is on to you trollery trollery talking about you they're getting their thrills from it now there are others who say they don't we actually have studies that ask internet trolls why they're trolling some of them say for social justice but guess what else we find but

people who are activists political activists, they tend to be psychopathic as well. This is one of the things we need to keep in mind. On either side of the aisle. If you're a real activist and you want to fire people up and get people angry, there's a reason you like people to be angry. So there are some parallels there. There are. Wow. So that kind of reminds me of that Twitter post you made. Which was? There was some video about a guy explaining how psychos get

to the top of political... Oh yeah, the psychopaths taking over the world. Yeah, that was a very interesting analysis. But Spencer Pratt falls into this category. Yeah. You know what's interesting is now other people are making videos for him. No, most people have made – he's made very few videos. The only ones he's made involve him, and he says this is basically doing an interview. No, they're all made by third parties. There's about six or seven groups that do a lot of them, and there's a

bunch of independents doing a bunch of them. They're all done by outside people. Not just one or two, all of them. That's why the style is so different from one to the other. So, you know, Tina is very enamored by this. And she's kind of given up on news. She's given up on our show. She doesn't even listen to our show anymore. Well. She's like, she's watching dogs on TikTok, on Instagram, and people cooking with cheese. That's our competition. But. People cooking with too much cheese.

Too much cheese. And cats that play the piano. Yeah, that's basically our group. Yes, and we're losing. We're losing here. Well, we're losing now and again, I'd say. Now, but the Spencer Pratt stuff, she sees that. She says, you know, this could spark a revolution and many more people could do this. What do you think? Well, I think that's what everybody – I mean, what she says there is a commonplace as far as I'm concerned, which is that Pratt is doing what the future of politics

is what he's doing. The issue, it seems to me, is that there's going to be some legal action taken because of likenesses. But if you're famous, you can't do that. I'm thinking there's going to be some changes made in the law. Because there has to be at some point. because there's a lot of the kind of defamation that is part of his videos or the ones that are being done on his behalf, let's say, because that's

what the situation is. Even though many of them identify what group is doing them at the end, there's usually an identification. Not always, but a lot of times. Okay, this is interesting that you bring this up because I think we're seeing the law change in many different ways. And you identified one early on about where parents are going to be penalized for things their idiot kids do. Yeah. Which is, I mean, if you... Sneaking up on

us. But it's really quite insane. I mean, if you look at the American laws, most of them were written based upon biblical laws. And this is the exact opposite. You know, scripture says, you know, no parent shall be responsible for what his child does or the other way around. And so this is such a diversion from U.S. law and the origin of it from a long, long time ago. And so I was very surprised to hear Janine Pirro, Judge Janine, who is now the attorney general

for District of Columbia, when she said this. And as we grapple with this problem, there is one area that hasn't been discussed. Parental involvement has been a noted gap in any discussion. And I am here to say, as the United States attorney in the District of Columbia, that ends today. Starting today, my office will aggressively prosecute parents under D.C.'s curfew law, and the specific statute that we will use is a violation of D.C. Code 22-811, and

it involves contributing to the delinquency of a minor. This statute makes it unlawful for an adult to enable, facilitate, or permit a minor to engage in delinquent acts. The penalty is up to six months imprisonment. So if the evidence shows the parent knew or should have known or permitted or failed to prevent participation, we're going to charge them. And if you drop your kid off and you fail to supervise them or you let them skip school to join the chaos, you are going to face fines,

court-ordered classes, and possible jail time. I'm against this. Why? You don't think there should be any parent responsibility whatsoever for delinquent kids who've gone nuts and they're unsupervised because

the parents are lacking substance? certain skills yes yes however i think the kids need to be penalized otherwise they get penalized no they don't well if their parents are taken away they sure do because they're going to be locked up in a foster care home i think you put these kids into you tase them first so but there's things changing in our laws and i just i'm not there's a lot of things i don't agree with i'm just i'm not entirely on board with that one

man she's at least she's not clear about the kids. It's like, you know, everything is now the parents' fault. Eh. So, Rob Carty, our constitutional lawyer, suits and boots, he was so jacked up this week. He's like, this is huge. And for his business, It is huge, but I think it also is going in a direction that we would like to see. This is a change in liability from a court ruling by

the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court ruled unanimously to allow a man who lost part of his leg in a trucking crash to sue a major logistics company that hired that truck. The man's attorneys argued that the truck driver had been cited for careless driving in another crash months earlier and that the broker, C.H. Robinson, should share liability. Last month, CBS News chief investigative correspondent Jim Axelrod spoke to families who lost loved ones in similar crashes who

could also be impacted by this ruling. This is what Ohio State troopers confronted, responding to a crash outside of Cincinnati the day before Christmas in 2022. Can you hear me? A tractor trailer heading north on I-75 crossed the median and slammed into two vehicles. They were texting me throughout their drive, saying how close they were, where they were, and then I heard nothing. Amy Ross had planned

to host Christmas for her family that year. In those two cars, her mother, Kimberly, a sister, Lauren, another sister,

Karen, and brother-in-law, Jeremy Bainey. and that's when we got in touch with the police and the police said they're all gone and there was nowhere to go there was no hospitals to go visit them at the driver of the truck a cuban national with a green card had left miami two days earlier in a truck that police said had a stolen federal registration number a toxicology report showed elevated levels of cocaine and methamphetamines in his system after the crash the driver fled back to cuba how

does a guy like this end up hauling goods for walmart i don't think that this driver or many others like him end up on the road but for the broker turning a blind eye so now the brokers are going to be liable for these crap drivers that they hire. And here's, this guy, he does a YouTube, the mother trucker. It's just short, but a little color to

it. To put it plain and simple, a lot of owner operators are saying this is a big win because the Supreme Court just had a unanimous ruling saying that brokers are pretty much accountable for negligency when hiring any motor carrier, right, that is unsafe. You know, and they are including illegal alien truck drivers in this. So is this a big win? Because when you look at this and you're trying to book loads, the shippers, they want to pay top dollars at times. Not all bad times.

And then they have the broker that's supposed to make sure that happens. And what do they do? They pick really crappy carriers to haul their loads. And they don't care. They just want that extra money going to their pocket and get some random carrier to do the job. And then that person gets into an accident. And when they do, there's no accountability on the broker. But now that changes. Yeah, not only is it a change for subpar truckers, haulers, loaders, whatever you want to call them,

but how about autonomous trucks? And with this type of liability changed by the Supreme Court, could we see perhaps

vaccine manufacturers coming up soon? well something's got to give on the vaccines or or pharma providers in general which is one of the reasons i'm glad to see bill cassidy was came in third in a in a three-man race and got kicked out of his senate seat in louisiana this is the creep who who condemned you know wasn't going to vote for bobby kennedy he's a big promoter of uh of the uh of the vaccine for hepatitis b on for babies he is a one of the top 10 recipients of pharma money he's also the

guy when he was hassling kennedy demanded that kennedy see him twice a month to confirm to confirm that he wasn't going to change the schedule for 86 vaccines for infants. I mean, the guy was just a bad actor, and he finally, you know, Trump wanted him out, and he got out because he's also voted for Trump's impeachment on the second go-round of the impeachment when Trump wasn't even president anymore. Yeah, it's great. The guy's a total creep. I mean, why was this guy even in office?

Oh, this brings me to Hantavirus. So this is the, what is this guy? Admiral, what is that guy's name? Admiral, Admiral. He's the Admiral. It's just him saying everything's okay. Zero Americans are sick with Hantavirus. Brian Christine is his name. linked to that cruise ship docked Spain. U.S. health officials confirming for the first time, no Americans are believed to be infected with the Andes strain, including the passenger who ended up replacing the ship doctor who initially

tested positive. Further tests actually show he may have never been sick with the disease. In total, health authorities are watching 41 Americans for the virus, including 16 who were never on that ship but were potentially exposed to one of the cruise ship passengers who got on a plane. All right, that's the report. Here's the admiral himself. Let me be crystal clear. The risk of Hantavirus to the

general public remains very, very low. The Andes variant of this virus does not spread easily, and it requires prolonged, close contact with someone who is already symptomatic. Even so, we have taken this situation very seriously from the very start. We've taken it seriously across HHS and particularly through the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. And I'm proud to see many of my U.S. Public Health Service officers have been actively engaged in the response. The CDC rapidly

activated its emergency operations center. It deployed medical teams to assess passengers and coordinated closely with international partners. They have notified state health departments. They have initiated monitoring of potentially exposed individuals. and they have issued clinical guidance through the Health Alert Network. And they have also brought together national partners through coordination calls. They've developed tools and resources to

support public health decision making. Well, the point being for that clip is the guy sounds like he's a typical boring guy and he's just, you know, he's going through the motions, but he has it kind of covered and he's not hair on fire like we're all going to die. I thought this was going to blow over in two days and this has been like two weeks already,

isn't it? oh yeah it's not going to blow over but then i then then so this is the new guy admiral christine so now we go to cnn and then listen to this tonight we have a cnn exclusive k-file and covering new details about one of the trump administration's top public health officials who led the public federal response this week on hantavirus. Dr. Brian Christine stood before reporters promising a response grounded in science and grounded in

transparency. But before joining the administration, Christine was an Alabama urologist with little experience in federal public health. He specialized in penile implants and once hosted a YouTube show called The Erection Connection. You coughed over it. I want to make sure you heard about it. I want to make sure you heard about his YouTube show. Penile implants. And once hosted a YouTube show called The Erection Connection. Which I need an end of show mix. Someday we'll find

it. Erection Connection. Anyway, so they're burning. Who are you doing? They're burning this guy. Called The Erection Connection on his procedures. K-File also found a history of far right commentary and conspiracy-tinged smarts, including comparing the Biden administration to Nazi Germany, questioning the 2020 election, and suggesting the COVID vaccine did little to stop the pandemic. So, okay, it's funny. I think the erection connection is a great find.

But here's CNN burning the admiral over at HHS. The previous admiral over at HHS, of which they never said anything bad, was literally a dude in a dress. Yeah, Rachel. Rachel Levine. Rachel Levine. Literally a guy in a dress. Oh, never a bad word about her, him, it. Come on. You nailed it. Yeah. Yeah, well, meanwhile, it doesn't make any difference because Ebola's back. Yeah. Woo, finally. Yeah, yeah. When it rains, it pours, people. I got two clips, one from the comparative, the CBS clip and

a BBC clip. You can play either one. How about CBS first? There are growing concerns over yet another deadly virus outbreak. Doctors are monitoring an Ebola epidemic in Africa that may be to blame for dozens of deaths so far. CBS's Lilia Luciano has the alarming developments and speaks to a U.S. ER doctor who survived the virus. Survive! In Congo's Eturi province, health officials are battling a new

Ebola outbreak. The Africa CDC says there are 246 suspected cases and at least 65 people dead, the highest death toll from the disease in years. The World Health Organization is concerned. We know very well that the country has experience, but the region where it is happened, is highly volatile with the humanitarian situation going on and the population moving around from South Sudan to Uganda and other parts. Government officials confirmed the outbreak has now spread

to Uganda. Medical professionals seem very concerned about the possibility or the ability to contain this. Why is that compared to other times? It's already a big outbreak at the point that we're hearing about it. There have already been a number of deaths. And this is a strain of Ebola for which we have no treatment, no vaccines. The virus spreads through direct contact with blood and other bodily fluids. Dr. Craig Spencer contracted Ebola while working in Guinea

in 2014. Healthcare workers are the group that I'm really concerned about because they have very close contact with people when they're most contagious, particularly around the time of folks' death. And the U.S. has been the single largest external player in Ebola response in the past. Now experts are worried that the dismantling of USAID and the U.S. withdrawing from the World Health Organization could have an impact in the global efforts to contain the virus. Let the World

Health Organization do it. Yeah, Bill Gates. Why does USAID have to do everything? They can't because they don't exist anymore. Well, good. Go to the BBC. The Democratic Republic of Congo's health minister has said the strain of Ebola, which has broken out in recent days, has a very high death rate. Samuel Roge Kamba said there was no vaccine or specific treatment available. The outbreak has caused 80 deaths out of nearly 330 suspected cases. Shinga Nyoka reports.

reports. The numbers of the dead and sick have been rising rapidly since this outbreak was declared, mainly in two gold mining border towns, where it's feared that high population movement could spread the disease further. The African Union's public health agency has called for an increase in cross-border monitoring after Uganda confirmed its first fatality. The 59-year-old man had

recently traveled from the DRC. Officials have called for international assistance to contain what is now the DRC's 17th outbreak. World news from the BBC. I think I have one clip from CBS that has something additional in here. This is the Democratic Republic of Congo's 17th outbreak of the deadly viral disease, and it's unfolding against the backdrop of a deepening security crisis where clashes between rival militia groups have killed dozens of civilians in recent weeks. Abdir Rahman

Mahmoud is with the World Health Organization. Well, we know very well that the country has experience, but the region where it is happening is highly volatile with the humanitarian situation going on and the population moving around. So our response is to stand with the regional government and the country neighbor in terms of solidarity to show again that they can control this outbreak. And Ebola was first discovered back in 1976 in what is now the DRC and

is thought to have spread from bats. Now this morning, health experts are warning. Bats! Those Africans are eating bats! Yeah, it's a problem. Yeah. How many times have we been through an Ebola outbreak on this show in 18 years? I think it was four. At least. And then we had two Zikas, four Ebolas, two Zikas, one COVID. And now we had three SARS. We had SARS, GARS, or whatever that other one was. And we had the swine flu. MERS. MERS and SARS. MERS and SARS and

then COVID-19. COVID-19. And now Hanta virus, which is kind of cool. We've got a new one. Well, this is the second. We had a second. I think we've had three incidents of Hanta. We had the current one. We had the one with what's-his-name's wife. And then we had one earlier, maybe 10 years ago, that was a Hanta discussion. I don't remember from 10 years. I don't think we've ever had a discussion on the show about Hanta. I looked it up at bingit.io. I couldn't find any.

I did promise I would look into the resignation of McCary over the flavored vapes. Do you remember this? You've muted yourself. I don't know how that happens. I mean, that has literally never happened to me. I can tell you how it happens. I think Tina would love for me to mute myself sometimes, but not on the show. Yeah, I'm sure she would. Not on the show. But beside the point, what happens is I get these pop-ups. Pop-ups? Yeah, pop-ups. What world are you living in? What

happened to a blocker? Blockers don't work anymore. I mean, I have, for example, I got my AVG antivirus-free. There's There's your problem right there. Your AVG antivirus free expires in six days. This is a pop-up. Renew it, man. So I click on it, but instead of clicking on it, I click on the mute button. Oh. Because it's overlaying it and it just misses. I don't know. It's an accident. Okay. Well, it's okay. So I promised I would look into this resignation from the FDA director, administrator,

I think it is, over flavored vapes. So let's get the full story. And I think I've figured out what this was really about. Children's National in D.C. is sharing its concerns after the FDA's decision to authorize fruit flavored vapes. And that move played a role in the agency leader's resignation yesterday. Sunrise's Max Marcilla joins us live. Morning, Max. What does this authorization really mean, and why is

it driving this pushback? Well, Hillary, this authorization means that one company called Glass can now market two of its flavored e-cigarette products. They're blueberry and mango flavored. Listen to this. Listen to this device. They're called Gold and Sapphire. And while advocates of this move are hopeful that it could help adults transition away from traditional cigarettes, there are

many concerns being raised, especially for young people. So look, big picture, teen vaping is at its lowest point in several years, and these new devices will have a digital age verification system. But we spoke with Dr. Susan Wally, the chief of hospital medicine at Children's National, and she's concerned that teenagers could still find a workaround to the

new preventative technology. Look, she says these fruit-flavored devices are extremely addictive and oftentimes are young person's first experience with tobacco. We certainly are concerned as public health advocates, pediatricians and teachers that, you know, our young people will get the idea, oh, well, maybe this means that it's OK if the FDA has authorized it and it couldn't be

further from the truth. So so one I followed this because I'm a vapor and I totally disagree with all these Chinese These crap vapes that who knows what's in them, that'll probably kill you. And then they came up with it'll cost you a million dollars per flavor that you want to have the FDA approve. And this glass company, which is some outfit in Los Angeles, they came up with, oh, well, you have to link it with Bluetooth to your phone, and then with a government ID,

I'm like, come on, this is all nuts. But this is, there is something going on here, two sides. One is the president, who promised this to young MAGA, I can't remember it, but I think he did. Like, oh, we're going to let you vape, kids. Vote for me. And he also was having a meeting at one of his golf courses with the big boys from tobacco who are now switching from combustible products to nicotine, just pure nicotine products. And they've spent a lot of money on

his election campaign, and they want this. They want the vapes to be legal. and Durbin talked about this in the Capitol. Tobacco companies have donated generously to Donald Trump's election, his inauguration, his great Gatsby ballroom, with the expectation of favoring the treatment President Trump's administration has delivered for tobacco. Last week, the Food and Drug Administration... And I just have to say, it has nothing to do with

tobacco. Nicotine is nicotine. It's not tobacco. And, you know, there's all kinds of studies that say it can be good. You know, having too much of anything is probably never good, but it's not necessarily going to kill you. Chinese vapes will probably kill you. Bad vapes, yeah, can create formaldehyde. You can get pieces of... Yeah, and the problem with cigarettes themselves is the tar. Yeah, but Durbin makes it sound like it's all about tobacco, which it's

not. But it is true that the tobacco industry has been moving to nicotine, and they certainly did support this president. Did something it had never done before. After pressure from President Trump, the FDA authorized the first ever flavored e-cigarettes. Why is that important? That's what lures the children into this deadly habit. Notice e-cigarettes. We're not calling it

vapes. We're calling it e-cigarettes. Deadly habits. Scientists, doctors, and parents, even the FDA's own studies, all acknowledge sweet and fruity flavored e-cigarettes are responsible for addicting our children. Health experts I've spoken to believe the true number of high school kids vaping is at least 40%. 40% of our kids vaping. Yeah, the same 40% who ate vaping. nicely colored Fruit Loops. I mean, none of it's good

for our kids. The number's bullcrap. Of course. Teachers, principals, and students acknowledge these are not kids vaping to quit cigarette smoking. These are kids who first became addicted to nicotine because of flavored vaping. Why would an administration supposedly committed to making America healthy again unleash this new wave

of addiction on our children? formaldehyde chromium heavy metals like nickel and lead all are present in e-cigarettes a recent study found that vaping is likely to cause cancer oh yeah we should not trust big tobacco when they promise they won't market to kids we know better all right so obviously this was kind of funny and kimball made some jokes about it and then you have the reported beef between the president and his head of the FDA.

According to Wall Street Journal, Trump spent this weekend angrily bullying FDA Commissioner Marty McCary, seen here moments after he graduated from the School of Stock Footage Doctors. He berated him for delaying approval of flavored electronic cigarettes. You may remember Trump promised young MAGA that he would save vaping, which is as noble a cause as there is. And so like a kid giving up his lunch money, the FDA finally authorized cotton candy flavored e-cigarettes. This is what's

important to him. Vape pens. He's definitely been in Florida too long. All right. So I got no argument. I like vaping. I think it's great. I think it should be easier for people to make safe vapes. That's not the point. This guy was pushed out for very different reasons. And it surfaced on an interview on CNBC. You know, to put it kind of bluntly, you've been getting some not great press. And, you know, I'm curious just today, Paranoia, turmoil, and backlash inside the FDA under Marty

McCary, President Trump's Marty McCary problem. These are very recent stories, Bloomberg and the Wall Street Journal. A lot of it does stem from frustration with patient populations and physicians, which what they say is inexplicable decisions by the FDA to not approve drugs. Replimune, for example, being a key one. How do you respond to this overall criticism that,

I mean, continues to this very moment? Yeah. Yeah, I think that article in The Wall Street Journal is the ninth article they've posted in that opinion section begging for Replimune's approval. I don't work for Replimune. I work for the American people, and I stand by the scientists at the FDA. Three independent teams arrived at the same conclusions. On my watch, we have not done corrupt sweetheart deals.

What we have done is followed the science. So every accept or reject decision at the FDA on my watch has been the accept or reject recommendation of the primary review teams at the agency. And, you know, I've spent my whole career taking care of cancer patients. To suggest that we want cancer patients to die is a little offensive. So it's about Replimoon. Replimoon has all the big

boys behind it. I mean, you've got BlackRock. You've got everyone has invested in this one company to make Replimune. And it was supposed to be Replimune, isn't it? Well, Replimune. Yes. Replimune. Are you familiar with it? Because it's not in the market. I hope you're not using it. I'm sure they'd love to pass it along. Well, no. He was saying. There's a whole group called the Replimune group. Yes. But he was saying, no, this thing is

no good. And these guys got not one, not two, not three, but nine articles in the Wall Street Journal opinion editors pushing for this drug. Well, final question, because you referenced, you used the word corrupt when you described sort of corporations. I'm just curious as to what you're talking about. I'm talking about a small set of companies have a trial that doesn't go their way. They call you, they call CNBC, they call Wall Street Journal. They're

running ads on your network nonstop. and they say, hey, this is wrong, the drug actually works when the trial shows it didn't work. And they dial up tremendous pressure in the media to drum up people, spin them up on results that don't match the data that we see. And what you see as a result are nine articles by a couple editors in the opinion desk at the Wall Street Journal pushing for one drug. What do you

call that? I know. Well, they would call it being compassionate to the 8,000 people with melanoma who frontline treatment

failed. cancer surgeon i mean if there's anything that'll help cancer patients a hundred percent we're going to get it to them so final clip about what was wrong all right well if you do that wait he's a cancer surgeon i thought he was a dick surgeon no this is a different guy this is the fda guy i get mixed up you're still 15 minutes behind i am yeah all right well if you do that i mean i i just want to go through because to the extent that i've been exposed to one story it has

been this one i've talked to the ceo as well and any number of other people I am, yeah. they see? Look, I'm not going to talk about an individual product, but if you read what we call our complete response letter, you will see the details of the FDA's logic, and you will see some of those things shown not to be correct. Can you give me something here to hang on to just understand what some of the details would be? So we publish it. We publish all

of it. So for example, if you want to see whether or not a drug adds a benefit to cancer patients, you run a control group where patients don't get the drug. The FDA clearly recommended that control group. The company clearly did not do that control group. And so by law, we can only approve drugs with, quote, substantial evidence. You went back and forth with them about that. Didn't they say that that would be unfair to those

patients given the efficacy of the drug itself? The FDA has had numerous meetings with almost every company that brings products before it. The recommendations of the FDA were clear, misrepresented in the media. How did they misrepresent? Well, saying that they changed the goalposts. They don't change the goalposts. So when we're talking about how hard it is for RFK Jr. to do stuff, this is exactly what this guy got pressed out. They threatened him. Who knows? Yeah,

that's why they came up with the vape thing. Yes, exactly. No, that's what you do. You're pounding, you're pounding, you're pounding, you're pounding, you say, well, hell with it. Let's go after him some other way. Yep, and there it is. We dream some scheme up here and we'll go with this. What side is he on here? Well, that's what Trump wanted to do. Okay, well, let's go after him. Call Kimmel. Call Kimmel. Get him to make some jokes. Yeah, you just keep doing it until the

guy gives up. This happened with a woman who just quit the, I think she was the CDC or FDA. And I had a clip. I didn't have a clip, but I was going to discuss her. And she was drummed out the same way. because this is major. If you didn't have the pharmacy companies so big. And powerful. It's shocking to me that Cassidy didn't get in because he's supported by them. You even hear this guy saying,

hey, they're running ads on your network. Yeah, that's why our CNBC guy is like, whoa, what's wrong with you? I mean, it was a perfectly good drug. Everyone, the CEO says, oh, what's that? The Wall Street Journal, nine opinion pieces. There was money behind this. Big money. And it was probably just for some stock win. I don't think they have care about 8,000 melanoma patients. Well, there was a stock at play. There had to be. So that's what that's... No, it was. It was called Replimune.

Okay. And that's what all this... It's down to five bucks a share now. Ah, there you go. Everyone lost their shirt. So out you go. vapes we'll do something we'll do something we'll make you look stupid yeah i don't think trump is i don't think trump even knew about this part no he can't keep up with this stuff he can and he can barely do it uh so um uh stephen colbert had his last show i

don't know if you saw it no i i'll go back and look at it eventually they had david letterman on and they threw stuff off the roof of the CBS building. Yeah, I did see that. They clipped that and put it online. Yeah, yeah, I saw that. And we discussed this offline after the show one or two shows ago. I'll just play this little brief bit about his replacement. Meanwhile, fellow late-nighter Jimmy Kimmel joked at Disney's annual upfronts about CBS replacing Colbert with Byron Allen's Comics

Unleashed. Quote, it's bad enough to lose your job. Imagine getting replaced by the owner of the Weather Channel. So Byron Allen will be replacing him. Our initial thought was, go ahead. Pretty embarrassing. It's an insult. Yeah, it's an insult. I mean, Byron Allen is something of a genius entrepreneur, a billionaire. And he's been doing the same kind

of schlock programming forever. although he does when it comes to the food stuff he has a number of of foodie uh productions that he does that are extremely well produced but most of his stuff is just you know because byron allen who's a black guy it is a wannabe comic who's not funny yeah but he's got a knack for producing kind of low-budget, mid-quality material, and he's been doing it forever. Way before we started this show, he was doing stuff, and

he has this Comics Unleashed show, which is terrible. I mean, it's just not well done, but it's cheap. It's super cheap. So that's how he's made his money, leverage. Here's the kicker. CBS didn't replace Stephen Colbert with Byron

Allen. he is paying for the time slot oh that would make sense he bought the time slot that makes total sense yeah and he's probably it's probably going to be more profitable than any of the other late night shows because yeah because it's what he does and he's going to make good money off of that yeah it's like a infomercial yes exactly you buy those slots spots exactly and then everyone else is going to go you know you'll see nbc the network actually instead of losing

40 million dollars a year will be making money doing nothing yes for something that almost no one watches anyway yes infomercial level a couple million people of which none are in the demo no right you want you want to sell medical devices you want to sell that phone i didn't know that but now that you mentioned genius right that's why byron allen is a billionaire he's something of a genius in terms of TV. It's schlock, but it's still. What are you going to do? What TV

is good? I mean, it's all schlock. Ever since Dana Brunetti stopped producing shows, it's just gone downhill. Yeah. I'm doing this to get out of a lawsuit, by the way. Oh, he's... Good old Dana. Yeah, that guy. I heard that he hates Hollywood. I love telling my church people. Yeah, you know, Danny Brunetti, big Hollywood guy, he listens to the show. He's kind of a friend. What did he do? Fifty Shades of Grey? What? That's pornography. No, that was Fifty Shades of Grey. That was the

bad one. Yeah. House of Cards. There was a trilogy. There was three? Money, yeah. Three money makers, yeah, of course. Of course, that's why he has a fire truck and a farm. And we're podcasters. I'm just saying. Well, you know, we got cash flow. All right. You got

anything else you want to do? Yeah, let's see before we have it yeah i want to do um you know what the sharia law clip is always good sharia law in the usa big thread i find this to be kind of kind of hopeless but let's play these clips and lawmakers warn that groups in support of sharia law have a long-term goal of widespread influence here in the u.s warnings of Korea's authoritarian nature and social class

divisions based on sex and religion. They point to already existing Sharia-based tribunal courts happening in Texas and the United Kingdom. NDD correspondent Jason Blair brings us that story. People do not have protection from imposing a foreign legal system or code that overrides or replaces U.S. civil or criminal law, nor the Constitution. House Republicans warn that stronger action needs to be taken to curb the rise of Sharia

law tribunals and acting courts in the U.S. Political Islam silences dissent, prohibits religious freedom, allows barbaric punishments, and treats women, children, and non-Muslims as second-class citizens. At a congressional hearing Wednesday, one witness said many Islamic groups have openly stated their long-term intent of gradually making the U.S. an Islamic society. society. They've written it down in the project in a 12-point plan. You can read it for yourself.

They've come to make this country like they've made countries all across the world Islamic. Amy Meckleberg, founder of Rare Foundation USA, says there are Sharia-based tribunal services operating in America. All across different places throughout the United States, from birth to death, they now have full operational societies. So within these societies, they have their courts. Subcommittee Chairman Chip Roy says that the UK has 85 Sharia law courts

operating in the country. Muslims are increasingly turning to Sharia courts to settle disputes rather than the UK's legal system. He said UK. Yeah. Yeah. So it's called arbitration. That's what that is. It's arbitration. Well, whatever it is, in the UK it seems to be somewhat popular with certain groups of people. Amongst the Muslims. Yeah, well, that's what they do. It's just like the nature that it's going to take over the US and we're going to do

this. Oh, please. This is nonsense. This is midterm fear-mongering is what this is. Vote for Chip Roy. Vote for

Chip Roy. Yeah, Chip roy he's your buddy he's a texas boy i'll stop the i'll stop the the muslim um compounds in texas and whenever i say this people are always like look at this man this happening is real yeah maybe but we're a little just look at the percentage of muslims in the united states and what their influence is most muslims in the united states are not for this stuff no and we don't have open borders where crazy Muslims are coming in, and we don't

have a society where we allow, at least we should not, where we allow them to fire up their loudspeakers five times a day and have them stop and bow in the middle of the street. Now, you may see some videos about that, but that kind of stuff usually doesn't fly in America. This is different. Europe is like,

oh, no, this is multicultural. We have to be nice to everybody and it took 25 years if not almost 30 the praying in the middle of the street doesn't fly in saudi arabia either but you know people are online though it's happening and if it's happening in your town then you should put a stop to it that we can do but that didn't happen in europe i saw this in the netherlands i saw when and look they did a great job when Pim Fortin was running for election and his party won after they killed him

to assassinated him two weeks before the election, he was saying, do not allow the Islamification of the Netherlands. And he got killed and then everybody shut up, went, oh I probably shouldn't say anything about Islam and still took 25 years to get to where it is today. We have a lot of runway to stop anything nefarious. But you are being played. You are being played and I think it's, you know, there's these geofencing operations. You heard

about this? Yeah, I have. Apparently, Israel has been paying companies in America to pop up ads and manipulate algos geofenced around churches, particularly in California, but also in Texas, in the Dallas area, Austin. and part of their geo-fencing is Israel great and part of it is Islam no good. Be careful, be afraid. So you're being played on all sides. But I agree with you. The influence is not that great. Oh, man, the amount of people. This

is our next Waterloo. Part two. Part two. Rep. Jamie Raskin argues that no special laws against Sharia law are necessary because of the existence of current U.S. law. Murder is against the law in America. whether the parents are Muslim, Christian, Jewish, Hindu, or anything else. Another witness who's a high school student in Texas says his Republican student club faced hostile scrutiny and censorship by school officials in

stark contrast to pro-Sharia groups. While the Republican student club faced denial, censorship, poster removal, and hostile oversight, an outside organization was given easy access to distribute Sharia-related materials directly to students. Administrators not only allowed it, they actively promoted Islamic events. Throughout the hearing, Democrats argued that existing U.S.

law is enough to deter any threats. While Republicans called for urgent action citing Sharia-based tribunals and early warning signs in Europe and Texas. Reporting on Capitol Hill, Jason Blair, NTD News. Next, today is World Fallen Dafa Day. So, if you ask anyone, what is Sharia law? Wait for

the answer. what is the what is sharia law everyone thinks that somehow well it's going to supersede american law no and i have to agree with raskin with on that case it's not going to supersede american law you can't go killing people but that's also not what sharia law is like you stole my chicken you know i get to take some beads it's not gonna chop your hand off it's not quite that extreme Yeah, I haven't seen that take place yet. Have we seen a good

stoning in America yet? A good Sharia law stoning? There's been a lot of people that have been stoned, but not in that way. If Sharia law suddenly, and then you can go stone a girl because she kissed a boy, that is against the law in America. You can't go stoning people. But it's a meme now. Oh, Sharia law, Sharia law. please tell me what is Sharia law? Trolls, because the trolls are all into this. What is

Sharia law? They can't tell you. It's fear-mongering to get your vote for Chip Roy and Ken Paxton and a bunch of other guys. So we have a we've got a couple of things. I do have a 3x3. We can do that and get out of here. Oh, well, 3x3 is always fun. Now it's time for

3x3. Yes, Experiment by JCD. Comparing stories from ABC, CBS, and NBC. The never-ending 3x3. That's right, he's got the big three. And it's a story that will probably sound exactly the same on all three networks, but there's always a twist. You never know what these CIA broadcast systems will do. Yeah, that's where we leave them for last. And we start with the ABC people about the terrorist

attack. Tonight, an Iraqi national is in U.S. custody accused of orchestrating terror attacks like these, taking aim at American and Jewish targets around the world in retaliation for the war in Iran. Federal prosecutors charging Mohammed al-Sadi with a slew of terror-related crimes, alleging he coordinated 20 terror attacks in Europe and Canada in the last three months and eyed additional attacks in the U.S., identifying targets in California, Arizona, and New York City. He has been trying to

inspire jihad around the world through the Internet. Prosecutors linked al-Sadi to this stabbing in London that left two Jewish men, including an American citizen, seriously injured. Drop the knife! To this attempted arson at Bank of New York Mellon in Amsterdam. And this firebombing of a synagogue in North

Macedonia. Al-Sadi was apprehended this week in Turkey. In court today, he claimed he's a political prisoner being persecuted for his ties to Iranian General Qasem Soleimani, the military commander killed by a U.S. airstrike in 2020. He's essentially being subjected to a political prosecution, that he's a prisoner of

war and should be treated as such. But when federal prosecutors portrayed al-Sadi as a terrorist mastermind who they said successfully coordinated attacks overseas and paid undercover agents to carry out more attacks in this country. Undercover agents. This guy's powerful. Sketchy story. Powerful. Very powerful. NBC. Tonight, the FBI and NYPD saying they've foiled potential terror attacks against Jewish sites in New York, L.A., and Scottsdale, Arizona. Plots, they

say, are all tied to the Iranian regime. This man, Mohammed al-Sadi, now held in a New York jail cell, is an alleged high-ranking member of the mysterious terror group called HAYI. What? Authorities say they've already carried out 18 terror attacks in Europe, primarily targeting the Jewish community, including this suspect, tackled by British police after a stabbing rampage outside a London mosque and the group carrying out the

firebombing of this Belgian synagogue. Tonight, the FBI says HAYI is a front for the Iranian-backed terror group Hezbollah, and they say al-Sahdi's ties go right to the top of the Iranian regime. Multiple photos show al-Sahdi with former Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps commander Qusim Soleimani killed in a U.S. drone strike during President Trump's first term. Ah, there it is. This is Trump's fault. Al-Saudi has specifically threatened to

kill President Trump on social media. He is certainly a leader in this terrorist organization, and he was directing and inspiring terrorist attacks. These photos, exclusively obtained by NBC News, show his arrival in New York last night after he was taken into custody by Turkish authorities, according to prosecutors. They say since April he's been communicating with an undercover officer offering to pay tens of thousands of dollars to attack Jewish sites in the U.S. Oh. Tom, these are

alarming developments. The suspect was in court today. He appeared briefly in court. His attorney says he thinks he's a prisoner of war. Meanwhile, authorities believe the case underscores the wide variety of threats for events like the World Cup starting next month. Oh, yes. Now, let me ask you some questions about this. That was cute getting the World Cup in there. Yeah, yeah. Let me ask some questions. So was he communicating with an undercover officer on our

side, like one of our FBI guys? Is that how they nailed this guy? Well, wasn't it clearly explained in the report? No, I didn't think it was clearly explained. They keep talking about he paid agents around the world to do stuff. He was linked to Soleimani, Trump's trophy. So I'm just waiting for this to be Trump's fault. And that synagogue in Amsterdam, they locked off a whole part of the city. You can't even drive in certain directions because of that. But I didn't hear anything about

this. So like some nut jobs, but I didn't hear any connections to this guy. I don't know. This whole thing is fishy. Appearing in a federal court in Manhattan today, Mohammed al-Sadi smiled as a judge read off the list of terrorism charges. Arrested in Turkey in the last 24 hours and extradited to New York, al-Sadi is accused of trying to hire someone who happened to be an undercover officer. Now it's clear. Carry out attacks in Los

Angeles, Scottsdale, Arizona and New York City. Well, the system worked then. We stopped him. New York City Police Commissioner Jessica Tisch said, we disrupted a plan to attack a Manhattan synagogue and in partnership with the synagogue's leadership, ensured its security when the threat was elevated. Prosecutors say on April 3rd, Al-Sadi sent maps of a New York synagogue and Jewish centers in LA and Scottsdale to the undercover

officer, agreeing to pay him $10,000. In the next day, al-Sadi is alleged to have sent $3,000 in crypto as a down payment for the New York attack, texting, I want to see good news tonight, not tomorrow, bro. Prosecutors say al-Sadi is the commander of Kata'i Hezbollah. Bro, wait a minute. Where is this guy? Is he New Jersey? Bro. Al-Sadi is alleged to have sent $3,000 in crypto as a down payment for the New York attack, texting, I want to

see good news tonight, not tomorrow, bro. Prosecutors say al-Sahdi is a commander of Kataib Hezbollah, an Iran-backed terrorist group with ties to the Iranian Revolutionary Guard. He's pictured here with the late Iranian general Qasem Soleimani, killed by a U.S. drone strike in 2020 on orders from President Trump. His defense attorney said al-Sahdi is being punished for his ties to Soleimani. This case is a political case, and it's a political prosecution, and we're going to be litigating

it as such. Prosecutors also say after the war began, al-Sadi helped launch... Wait a minute, wait a minute. He called it a political case? Well, that's what he calls it. Well, isn't that just terrorism? That's an interesting point. For his ties to Soleimani. This case is a political case, and it's a political prosecution, and we're going to

be litigating it as such. Prosecutors also say after the war began, al-Saudi helped launch 18 terror attacks across Europe, including on a synagogue and a Jewish school in Belgium, and the stabbing of two Jewish men in London last month. CBS contributor Sam Vinograd said retaliatory acts of terrorism

could become more common. Even when drones, missiles and more stop flying over Iranian airspace, it is more than likely that these military campaigns have inspired a generation of individuals to continue to try to wreak havoc and al-sadi is facing multiple terrorism charges including providing material support for acts of terrorism if convicted major he could face up to life in prison Yeah. Whenever we have like, he hired an undercover cop of, it doesn't even mention if it

was FBI or not an agent. And then he sent him some crypto and used bro. I'm like, this guy was some, probably some schmuck. And then they found a picture of him with Soleimani. It sounds sketchy to me. Well, maybe you could be right, but I think it's

just a maniac. and he's got a boatload he's got a bunch of cash and he's crypto traveling all over the place like he goes to Macedonia then he's in Turkey then he's in Holland and then he's in New York well no no he hired people to do that stuff yeah but he's been floating around too he didn't do it from Turkey he's not hiring anybody to blow up a synagogue in Arizona from Turkey there's nobody there's no connection there's no it's not possible he's got to

come over here to do some of that stuff. The good news is he's off the streets. The FBI has done it again. We're safe. Sleep well, citizen. Go back to playing your harpsichord, citizen. Everything is well. And by the way, my last clip is Harvey Weinstein. We're not safe because he's going to be out of jail. To the index now, a judge declared a mistrial in Harvey Weinstein's rape retrial. The decision after a jury in Manhattan could not reach a unanimous verdict following three days of

deliberations. deliberations this was the third time weinstein was tried on accusations he raped an aspiring actress in a hotel room in 2013 weinstein's lawyers argued the sexual encounter was consensual a hearing next month could determine if there will be a fourth trial that is that is odd isn't it yeah well then i have two clips just to wind it all up because that we're going to open reopen been Epstein trials, more trials coming. And the Democrats...

Oh, great. That's terrific. How many people have gone to jail so far? Well, one person is... They want blood and they have a target on one guy. Okay. Here's the MS now setting us up. On the committee, heard dramatic testimony from survivors at a field hearing this week in Palm Beach County, where many of Epstein's crimes took place. When I was 14 years old, I was abused by Jeffrey Epstein. He abused me until I was 17

years old. What happened to me was terrible, but what happened after that by our own government changed my life just as much. I came here today to ask for one simple thing. to make sure this never happens again. I kept my identity protected as Jane Doe. I woke up one day with my name mentioned over 500 times. While the rich and powerful remained protected by reduction, my name was exposed to the world. Okay, so both of them say that they were abused by the U.S. government. You wanted to

say something? No, I was going to say they got outed by the U.S. government. Yeah, but I think the first one said it was worse. Yeah. So the Democrats in this case want blood, and I think they'll get it. I think they'll get it, and it's about one guy and one guy only. But let's turn now, sir, to the Epstein investigation, because all House oversight Democrats are calling for Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick to resign over his Epstein testimony. What should the American people know about his

interview and how it fits into the overall probe? Look, no one should be serving the American people, certainly not as a cabinet secretary, when you are essentially a known liar and unwilling to tell the truth. When you lie to the public and you're not honest in a deposition in front of the Congress. We all have seen Howard Lutnick in multiple times say that after 2005, he had no interaction with Jeffrey Epstein. that he had known very well. And now we just know that that wasn't true.

We know that he went to the island, that he went into business with Jeffrey Epstein, that he communicated, his wife communicated with him. And so then to them, him go into this interview with Congress and not admit to that and evade. Look, he needs to resign or be fired. He has lied to the American people. And that is nothing. That's not something a cabinet secretary should be doing. And beyond that, this points back to this massive

cover up. Howard Lutnick has been involved at the White House, continuing to cover up for the DOJ, telling lies, and he's got to go. Yeah, I think he will. I think that's the scalp they want now. Why? Just to do it. Ludnick's just a nutnik. He's a commerce guy. Who cares? Yeah, he's important to Trump because of the USDC. He's the big stablecoin guy. Oh, okay. Yeah, he's a big stablecoin guy. I know he's the guy that Musk wanted to be Secretary of the Treasury. He's

a big Lutnik fan. Oh, I'm glad we got General Patton on the down low. That guy's much better. Yeah,

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of poop on the marble. Man, that really hit. Huh? Poop on the marble. And then the mousetrap with the cheese and the chocolate. Did you see the note that came in that someone said the mask finally slipped and you're actually a sadist and a very, very evil human? Oh, yeah. I was talking about it. I got one of those notes too. There's two of them. That I'm a terrible person for crushing a mouse. Now, the fact

is that that was just a joke. If you want to know what really happens when I get a mouse in a glue trap, because I'm fearful of getting mouse fleas that hit me, I actually take a plastic bag and slowly kick the mouse in the trap into the bag and then seal the plastic bag and throw it in the garbage as fast as I can. So he's alive in the garbage and he just dies slowly in the garbage? He's dead already. Usually they're dead already. They die in that little thing. So this morning, I was

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get him. No, you'll get him. You have to be careful because they start to multiply pretty quickly. Yeah, but I know how to get him. I know how to get him. And then, you know, just like the ants, I always leave them in the trap for half a day. So everyone can smell them. So they know. This is death over here, people. Don't come near this one. Well, that's an interesting theory. Well, it's your theory. It's what you want to do after you torch the ants.

Yeah. How about you do that? You want to leave that torch smell. A lot of people, like on the blueberry tip, man, the blueberry in the hallway, that got a lot of art. None of it was really fantastic,

I have to say. yeah which is we thought the number a lot of submissions though yeah which is good we like that people are keeping busy keeping the AI companies unprofitable so thank you very much Scaramanga Francisco you know did I tell you his wife is some supermodel or some like model no I never heard this yeah comics or blogger told me he's seen a picture of her And he says, he's like, it's a model. It's kind of makes sense. Good for him. Yeah. Yeah. The

guy's lucky. He could be a podcaster. He's probably doing, he's probably, he's probably independently wealthy. You know what I mean? One of those guys. We can dream up whatever we want. That's right. With a name like Scaramanga, it could be anything. So now we would like to thank the people who supported us with

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to give him a deduce. You've been deduced. I assist with performing cardiac cath procedures, which I assume John had prior to his open heart surgery. It is an honor to become a Red Knight. Did you have a cardiac cath procedure? They run this thing up your leg. Oh, in your leg? Well, they start in the leg, the top of the part of the leg, and then they run this thing up the veins or something, and they

just run it up there to check it. And then they send some horrible dye into your system that then poisons your kidneys. And then I could go on and on about this. And then I had to go on dialysis for like a month and a half to get this poison out of the system. Does dialysis, does that hurt? Does it suck? What's that like? Actually, not being on it is nice. Yes. But when you're on it, it's like you can nap through it. Oh. So it's dozed off. But it's, no, it doesn't hurt at all.

It's actually, it's just annoyingly waste of time because it takes forever. Jay, Jay, Jay, please get a picture of John napping during dialysis. Too late. Oh, you don't have to do it anymore? No, no, I haven't done it for a month now. Good. I'm good. I'm happy to hear that. How about the fluids? Is that over now? No, I still had some fluids drained the other day. Yeah. I'm actually kind of clear right now, so I have a more sonorous voice. You do. I can make

deeper sounds. It's a few. And I don't know when that's getting. And that's getting annoying because they have this one guy who's actually pretty good at it, doing these thoracentesis where they stick. So this guy's really good at it. It doesn't hurt, and it's actually quite pleasant. So the time before last, the guy, this guy's name's Hans. He's excellent at this. His name is Hans? Hans. Hans, yes. He's actually more of an Asian. But anyway, so he says, I have a resident here who wants to

observe so he can do this too. and would you mind having that happen? And you being a nice guy, you went, yeah, sure, no problem. I went, sure, yeah, no problem. And that was a mistake. Because instead of the normal, you know, the way he normally soothes, the way he does the whole shivs you with the needle to drain you, it goes like this. Okay, here's what I'm doing now. I'm going between the third and fourth

rib. And notice that as it goes into the cavity between the ribs, and he's describing this, the whole process. And it's disconcerting, to say the least. So people out there don't have an intern or a resident watch anything. It was disgusting. I'm so sorry. But was it less fluid than normal? Are we on the uptake here? Are we doing better with this? Yeah, I think barely, yes. Because I don't want you to have to have an operation for that. No, it's just the whole thing. It's

just annoying. Yeah, yeah. But, yeah, fluid. Are you going to go home soon? Are you going to go back home? Yeah, I can probably get there now. I mean, but, you know, it's kind of comfortable being waited on. Oh, my back hurts. Can somebody get me an aspirin? I'm with you. I hear you. It's comfortable. Nice. All right. All right. onward with Steve Slocum, who also came in with $1,000. Hello, Adam and John. My name is Steve

Slocum from Columbia Station, Ohio. Long-time listener, first-time donor. Let's deduce him. I started listening. Let's deduce him. Let's deduce him. I mean, he didn't ask for it, but... You've been deduced. Deduction. I started... Yeah, good. I started listening

after Adam's first Rogan appearance. Oh, Rogan donation. Rogan. this information is a bit late but i felt it was relevant to the show i'd worked in one of the country's largest va health care facilities before and during and after covid the messaging this country received during that period of time was dramatically different than what was happening in these facilities veterans with active covid diagnosis were forced to isolate in patient rooms together for extended periods of time

when social distancing was arguably at its worst. It was sickening to witness the lies firsthand. Thanks to the two of you and all the producers during that time for providing grounded, relevant information to keep some sanity in the world. Well, thank you belatedly. With my $1,000 Bitcoin donation. Nice. I guess it would be. Yeah, it did come in as Bitcoin, yeah. I would like to claim an instantitehood of the Order of the Heart to assist with John's

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I tell you, in the treasure area. Thoughts and prayers for you both. Mitch Trumbull. Thank you, Mitch. Dennis Cato coming in from Tampa, Florida. We recognize the name, 33333 ITM John and Adam, just to give you some background. I actually have a history of correspondence with John going back to 1999, though I'm sure he doesn't recall. Let's find out. Oh, I recall every note. Let's see if

John remembers this. I was a Mac guy and an Apple employee that would routinely take offense to his articles where he would suggest Apple shut the doors, sell the stock, and give it back to the shareholders or that jobs return would do absolutely nothing to bring the brand back to prominence, etc. Wait, wait, wait. After a few beers, I sent some aggressively curt emails to John suggesting that he find a new position in life. That probably

went something like F you. But I was amazed when he actually would respond to my rantings and would be ever so gracious and sweet. Okay, do you remember this? Oh, yeah, I'm a sweet guy. No, no. I'm sure he wasn't the only Apple employee. No, there's a bunch of people that rant because I... This really became mostly during the Mac era when I was hired as the anti-editor of Mac User. Yes. By the publisher, Felix Dennis. who I knew. Is he dead?

And he says, would you like to be the, we'd like to put you on the inside back cover, but your job is to just say bad. things so we can balance the magazine. And you went, heck yeah, I'm in. Oh, yeah, I can do that. No problemo. And so I began it. And I was on the masthead as the anti-editor. and I wrote these columns at the back which were always critical and but I was also critical in PC Magazine and elsewhere, especially when I wrote the column, which I think Steve Jobs put up in

a frame, which was... Steve Jobs' good riddance when he quit. It was a classic. But yeah, I got a bunch of guys like this that were... That's funny. That's funny. He says, speaking of sweet like John. We invite everyone in Gitmo Nation to try our Manuka Gold Honey with Lemongrass, Ginger and Turmeric. Visit us at ManukaGold.com. That's Manuka with a K. For our wonderful line of wellness products. well at manukagold.com so this is an apple guy who sold this stock and bought some bees And I

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Hear ye, hear ye. To all farmers, shills, spooks, and members of the Gitmo Nations, you are warmly invited to join us for burgers and beers as we celebrate the birthday of our favorite former mink farmer, now a dude named Ben. We all raise a glass to knee-high corn to 1,560. days of Russian peace and freedom and to the honest and non-corrupt Ukrainians, the honest and non-corrupt Ukrainians, all while supporting the Ukrainian economy. Join us. This is

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that was extremely informative. And he also said. everything yes some drones fly most of them are shot down the russian drones um One of them exploded in one of his fields, a 10 by 10 foot hole, three feet deep. He says, and yes, some people die and the... cemeteries in you Ukraine are unbelievably full, just people that just thrown bodies on top of one another. It's flags everywhere. But he also says the front is has pretty much been stagnant for weeks. There's not a lot going

on. Which makes sense because we haven't heard much. We haven't heard much going on. Anyway, let me... That is a very good report. Let me give you your jingle. you You slaves can get used to mac and cheese, mac and cheese, mac and cheese, macaroni and cheese, cheddar melted together, mac and cheese, mac and cheese, mac and cheese. You've got... karma Linda Lupatkin in Castle Rock, Colorado. $200 jobs karma. Your resume has about 10 seconds. to

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*music* you say John's tip of the day is coming up shortly, and we also have some really good end-of-show mixes. I'm excited. play those for you. But first, for some reason, for a long time, we've been doing the ISO selection at this part of the show, and we don't even remember why, but it's always fun. And I will start since that's how it usually runs. John never wants to go first. You never want to go first. You notice that? Of course I notice it. Okay, well

I'll go then. I love your perspec- You're absolutely right. little long We are good to go, buddy. Maybe this one. That was good. Okay. I think this one's the best. It was quite impressive. I like that one. It's okay. Uh-huh. What you got? Let's start with... the A douchebag. God, I'm a douchebag. Is that from Family Guy? Yeah. That was the vaping episode. I'm a douchebag. I thought we should just keep that as a regular. High contender. High contender. All right. EEEE Let's go with... Gee

willikers. Gee willikers. Gee willikers. What a great show. No. Rejected. I reject that one. out of hand. Why? You can do better. You can do better. Top show. Wow, top that show, you chumps. Yes, that's what I'm talking about. We have a winner, and we have John's tip of the day. Green Vibes for you and me. Just the tip with JCB. Hence. Sometimes. Can we get some time to start planting gardens? Is it now? We're in April, May? Yeah. So everybody should go out and get a stirrupo. We had those.

in Amsterdam in the red light district. Aren't they great? Yeah, fantastic. What is this? No, I'm not talking about it. It's also called a, there's another name for these things. They're called. What's the name? I don't know. I'm going to get it. I don't even know what a stirrup hoe is. Look it up, a stirrup hoe is like a hoe. Yeah. Only instead of being a flat surface thing, it's got a loop and it allows you to... Oh, put your foot in it and jam it

in. No, it's good for, it is the greatest weeding tool you can imagine. Oh. It just basically pulls the weeds out. It's also called some other kind of hoe, which is funnier. I don't want to get the name, so hang on. Well, we're at the edge of our seats here. Yeah, these are available at... Pastime and all the big hardware stores. Let me find it. here. Stirrup ho. Tally-ho. Hula-ho. Stirrupo. Hold on. I'm holding on. I'm just sitting here waiting, watching the meters go silent. I'm

sorry, but I... You're underprepared. I closed one of the windows that has it. It's also called an action hoe. An action hoe. Which is really more the Amsterdam... It's a show title, is what that is. Action hoe. Action hoe. Yeah. And Home Depot has them. The Husky makes a good one. A 54-in-1 would handle action hoe with grip. These are just terrific products for gardeners. I used to have one years ago. I forgot all about it until Jay and Brennan brought one to the house here.

And they're gardening. Yeah, and they got a big garden in the backyard. Oh. And so they're using this thing as she's all jacked up about the action hoe. Yeah, well, there's a lot of punchlines there with the word action hoe, but it's really technically a stirrup hoe. Everyone should get one. They're about 25 bucks max. Go get your action hoe, everybody. That's a two. Tip of the Day you will only find at noagendafun.com, tipoftheday.net. ♪ For me, just a tip with JCB ♪ Sometimes, Adam. Created

by Dana Burnetti. Aren't you glad you waited? Yeah, I am. Aren't you glad? I'm telling you. I'm telling you. Look it up. This show is good to the last drop. How many people listen to the tip of the day? Oh, I'll do an analysis. One day. I bet you about half, maybe half. No, no, 20%. 20%? You think we'd fall off that much? For tip of the day, yeah. I think so. Most podcasts... fall off pretty substantially. After a while. But there's always that group that

just hangs in there all the way. And they're the ones. Those are the good guys. Yeah, of course. And they learn about all the fun stuff that everybody else misses. Your loss. End of show mixes from Just Baker and MVP. Love those guys. They're prompting away. They're doing good things now. I mean, it gets better every single time. End of show. Let's see. After the show, we have the Millennial Media Offensive coming up. with Hans von Spankovsky. Oh yeah, that makes total sense. Sounds like those

guys. And we will return on Thursday. We hope you join us. And I am coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country right here in Fredericksburg, Texas. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Refinery Row, I'm John C. Dvorak. And please remember us at noagendadonations.com. Until Thursday, adios. Mofoza, HooeyHooey, and Saj. Hey. Beijing lights the great heart glows red Trump grins why she knows his head fantastic Thank you. But blacked out

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