1865 - "Wide Awakes"

chop off your bits. Ooh. Adam Curry, John C. Devorah. It's Sunday, May 3rd, 2026. This is your award-winning Give Our Nation Media Assassination episode 1865. This is No Agenda. Dropping middle names and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas hill country here in Phoenix. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. One buzzer. In the morning Yeah, this guy is, he just came out of nowhere, didn't he? The Spencer Pratt cat? Well, I'll tell you, he

is the social media genius. Oh, yeah, his videos are fantastic. I think he- Videos plus a bunch of shills? Shills? What kind of shills? All these different women coming on with the- It looks like they're going to talk about one thing, then they talk about Spencer Pratt. And then there's all these anti-the-other-people videos done anonymously by different outfits. It's a phenomenon. You gave me a lot of code there. So women come on different shows? If you

go through Twitter or X, you see some woman. standing there looks like she's going to get bitch and moan about something and so she starts complaining as she goes into a big rant about spencer pratt being the only solution so it's kind of like a baba buoy Well, it's a little more advanced than that. Well, of course, anything is more advanced than the Bubba Booey gag. But, oh, interesting. So this guy's got legs. When are the elections for governor? Is that the same November time? No,

it's for mayor of L.A. Oh, mayor. Oh, and when is that? When is the election for that? I'm November. Oh, we just had our mayoral election here. On Saturday? kind of odd. Our guy in Hays won. It wasn't for Mayer. It was for... school district. I misspoke. But he won, Alex Zavala. Good. I got here in Fredericksburg one. Randy Briley. Things are changing. Texas is moving towards the left, they say. I think not. I think not. So... I noticed something this past week, which. has never

happened. In the 18 years we've done this show. And. It's borderline second half of show topic, but maybe not. When you have a... Mass shooter, a killer, an assassin, a criminal. We're always looking out for a couple of clues. Number 33 is a big one. We're always looking out for You know, the FBI to be in touch with this person previously. Yes, exactly. Three names. The three names. Yes, this is usually number one. The three names. And here's what happened this week in the M5M. Cole

Thomas Allen. Cole Thomas Allen. Cole Thomas Allen. Paul Thomas Allen. Cole Allen *Captions by: Michael Jackson* Since when has that ever happened? I don't recall it ever happening. So that is strange. And I think it's... probably mainly media trying to Push him up a little. Shh, gotta be quiet. We can't give this guy three names. That makes him sound super, super bad. And there were so many strange things that went down regarding this. Um... You know,

everything is upside down with this guy. You know, let's get a little refresher on the background of Cole Thomas Allen. The suspect, 31-year-old Cole Allen, is a teacher from Torrance, California, south of Los Angeles. He reportedly wrote a manifesto. Festo to his family and he's been interviewed by la TV Christine Frizzell reports My impression is he was a lone wolf, whack job. These are crazy people. President Donald Trump seemingly unshaken, following a gunman in his vicinity

for the third time. in less than two years. This suspect, seen in surveillance video running through a security checkpoint and within moments being captured by law enforcement, is 31-year-old Cole Thomas Allen from Torrance, California. He reportedly had a 1,000-word manifesto he sent to his family, now published in

the New York Post. friendly federal assassin, describing his targets as administration officials, not including FBI Director Kash Patel, adding, "I am no longer willing to permit a pedophile rapist and traitor to coat my hands with his crimes." He also mocked the "insane lack of security" at the hotel, writing, "I walk in with multiple and not a single person there considers the possibility that I could be a

threat. including the president. Other revelations so far that the suspect was part of a group called the Wide Awakes and attended a No Kings protest in California, where he also was working at an educational counseling and test prep company. The wheelchair breaks. Back in 2017, a local ABC station interviewed him about an emergency wheelchair break. So this is still, here he's still Cole Allen Thomas. And this, you know, the whole thing about this guy fits. It

works perfectly. in our cesspool of cynicism, which is what we are surrounded with everywhere. social media, podcasts, our very own Troll Room. And so here's NewsNation. NewsNation. who now lead the charge by dropping the middle name. But they did dive into this Wide Awakes, which almost nobody did. Have you ever heard of the Wide Awakes? No. It's a historical group! As the administration is working on reviewing how to best protect our president, the FBI is working

on finding out exactly who Cole Allen is. What news nation? Did you forget his middle name? Led him to attempt this attack on the president. They forgot his last name. President. Investigators say Allen professed to be part of a loosely... organized progressive group known as the Wide Awakes, which has roots dating back to when Abraham Lincoln was elected president. Investigative correspondent Rich McHugh joins us live. So Rich, this is a grade school teacher with no criminal

record. That's right, Nicole. You know, we're learning more and more about. Cole Allen, as the days pass here. And the group that he was apparently aligned with, that his sister told authorities that he was a member of, called the Wide Awakes. Here's what we know about this group and his affiliation with them at this time. So the Wide Awakes appear to be part of a group called

the Sunrise Movement. It's a political movement or organization which wants to end billionaire rule and stop the climate crisis that it wants Donald Trump. Out of power. One of their activist campaigns is Ice Out for Good, focusing on ice, and members of that campaign call themselves wide-awakes, quite literally agitators whose sole purpose is to is to disrupt

ICE. In Los Angeles and Minneapolis this past winter, they held no sleep for ICE protests outside of ICE hotels with the goal of getting ICE out of their cities. They've held these protests in Portland and in D.C. too. On their website, they write, for almost a year, Donald Trump has been using ICE as an occupying army. to

intimidate and repress those who would stand against him. To win climate action, we need to live in a democracy, and that means preventing Donald Trump from establishing his own personal Gestapo. The origins of this group and this name, as you mentioned, go way back to the pre-Civil War era. At that time, the wide-awake... a movement dedicated to abolishing slavery. They protected abolitionist politicians from violence while relentlessly

harassing pro-slavery politicians. showing up at their homes, banging pots and pans. This is so strange. It's like it's upside down. Pro-abolitionists that were... That happened during Lincoln's time? And they're part of the Sunrise Movement? These kids who were singing and in the hallways. Something is very strange about all this. Well, the Sunrise Movement website... yeah is way too slick with too many uh professionally designed logos and

signage Uh... and symbolism. I'm looking at it now. Yeah, signage and symbolism, exactly. So the charge was, while you're looking at that, the charge was led by former President Obama, who's like, this is the craziest thing. I don't

understand this at all. Barack Obama claims that no one knows the motive of Cole Allen, the man who tried to assassinate President Trump at the White House Correspondents Dinner, allegedly. is also getting backlash for claiming to reject political violence, saying, quote, Although we don't yet have the details about the motives behind the shooting at the White House Correspondents' Dinner, it's incumbent upon us all to reject the

idea that violence has any place in our democracy. It's also a sobering reminder of the... courage and sacrifice that U.S. Secret Service agents show every day. I'm grateful to them and thankful that the agent who was shot is going to be okay. People immediately called him out for being a hypocrite. Allen left a detailed manifesto about his

motive. He wrote that he was, quote, no longer willing to permit a pedophile, rapist, and traitor to coat his hands with crimes and planned to target Trump and administration officials. Investigators confirmed the manifesto and his social media were full of anti-Trump and anti-Christian rants. He followed accounts like Representative AOC, Illinois Governor J.B. Pritzker, and Senator Elizabeth Warren.

His sister told police he talked about doing something to fix the world and that he had ties to radical groups like the Wide Awakes and the No Kings protests in California. But Obama still claimed nobody knows the motive, even though the manifesto was already public. And Attorney General Todd Blanch in D.C. police said the motive was. clear anti-Trump bias. Meanwhile, Obama has repeatedly warned that Trump is

a threat to democracy and an authoritarian. He has said things like Trump threatens the very foundations of our democracy and compared to some of his actions to those of strongmen, which is basically dictators who rule with personal power instead of... following normal democratic rules. Conservatives point out that Obama and his fellow Democrats spend years pushing the narrative that Trump is dangerous, illegitimate, and a threat to the

country. They continually demonize Trump in attacks that are repeated by the mainstream media and amplified on platforms like Blue Sky. Blue Sky, yes, and then. On the PBS NewsHour. I checked your clips. You didn't have them. I was happy because I had a find. as I was paddling in your water. Listen to what Brooks said. I look at the 2028 election with a great sense of foreboding. And if you look at who thinks violence is justified.

It tends to be younger people by a lot. Most progressives and most conservatives oppose violence, but you get two and a half times as many progressives saying it's justified than not. But what strikes me about this guy, about the guy who shot in Butler, about the guy who shot Charlie Cook, Kirk. They haven't seemed to have thought about it that much. They're radicals who have a big

manifesto and an ideology. It seems almost flippant the way they go into these things, almost like half-thought-through and jokey. And I can't quite make sense of what that kind of lighthearted nihilism that drives people to, on a whim almost, do something that is horrific and life-changing. two and a half times more likely to be the left, David Brooks says. I've never heard him go off the reservation like that before. In fact, his compagnon, Capehart, was just

flustered. Jonathan, how do you look at it? Well, excuse me, I'm not going to... just let the comment that, you know, progressives, you know, more than folks in the far right are, you know, think that violence is justified. It is something that the American people feel. They're a little more comfortable with it than they were, say, five or ten years ago. You and I were in that room. we walked through the magnetometers together. We stood in that spot. The thing now a week out that I've

been thinking about. And I keep coming back to it, is that when I heard the five bangs, I remember hearing five very loud bangs. Bang, bang, bang. My immediate action was so instinctive. Drop to the floor under the table and be quiet. Like a little girl. I've never been in a situation like that. But as an American, and certainly as a journalist, having to cover all of these things and to listen to the recordings and the films, you sort of learn through osmosis. what to do.

And to me, the bigger issue here is gun violence. Why was I not surprised that this had happened? And I've been to that dinner at least a dozen times since 2000. Because I'm important. And so, yeah, there's an issue of... you know People feeling that political violence is the way to go and that we are in a highly charged atmosphere. But what's been sort of a specter over all of us for even longer is the scourge of gun violence. Yeah, good try. No one is picking

up on that. No one is going with gun violence at this time. Even MS now formerly known as MSNBC, MSNOW, even they are seeing what's really happening. This is a person who attended one of the most prestigious STEM universities in the country, the California Institute of Technology, Caltech, got an engineering undergrad degree, got a master's in computer science and was working. As Mika said early on, he was working as a part-time teacher, but he described himself

as a game developer. You can find video online of him touting a wheelchair invention that allowed wheelchairs to be more stable. This was an accomplished, articulate person with a loving family, apparently. who went down a path of radicalization. And the reason we know that is he's written a thousand word document where he describes exactly why he did this. And he describes President Trump as a pedophile and a racist rapist. He doesn't say he was targeting Donald

Trump. He says he was targeting Trump administration officials. He apologizes to his family in this post. attended or was associated with a no kings protest. So it really fits the pattern of what we've seen with Luigi Mangione, accused of killing the United Healthcare CEO, or Tyler Robinson, accused of killing Charlie Kirk, of the sort of people on the far left fringes who have become radicalized. who are living in a world of unreality, bombarded by conspiracy theories,

who decide that they have to take violent action. And it's contributing to a climate of political violence in this country that we have not seen since the 1960s. So more questions will be asked, and the FBI is pouring over. This man's writings and his social media, they serve a search warrant. They were at his house in Torrance, California yesterday. So a lot more investigation still being done.

But that that thousand word document that's being that's been widely published and Donald Trump commented on it last night on 60 Minutes, that says a lot about and explains a lot about. what appear to be the motives here, guys. So there's a cycle, I think, at play here. And, you know, we're seeing some, as they say, some of this is like the 60s political violence all over again. And what are the chances that Anna Polina Luna? Which I think she should be on the radio. She

do a morning show. Right now we've got Annapolina Luna. She's down there with the prize van. Annapolina, what you got? She has hearings coming up on May 13th. which we've been talking about for pretty much 18 years on

this show. From Rep. Anna Paulina Luna, I think our next task... force hearing will be on mk ultra and from the daily mail which she reposted declassified cia files revealed chilling blueprint to manipulate americans minds through covert drugging with vaccines So I went down memory lane, looked at a couple of clips that we played in the past, and the one thing missing from all of the mainstream... M5M analysis for a long time. is the modern version

of MKUltra, which is not necessarily the CIA. I don't know about vaccines, but we know what it is. We know exactly what it is. SSRIs. You're going to get on the air and say, hey, we just give it. This is from 2013. It's a sedative at night. When even Thom Hartman could talk about it. Don't even use it as an antidepressant anymore. And they're not going to tell you that it's an SSRI reuptake inhibitor. Does that sound familiar? Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors, which is the same

family of drugs as... Axel and what's the most famous one of all? Prozac. You wrote a book talking about Prozac. Prozac, Axel, Zoloft. And the thing about it is that it's not selective. It's just a reuptake inhibitor of serotonin, but it also inhibits the reuptake of some other drugs. But it's in that class of the drugs. So it increases the levels of circulating serotonin. And these drugs, these SSRI drugs, all of them have suicide or homicide associated with them, do they not? They do. They do.

Yeah, don't worry about the sounds. We'll just... Oh, yeah, you can hear me shuffling around. It's hard to hear here anyway. I have so much equipment set up. That's quite all right. Not to worry, Dr. Bregan. We're talking with Dr. Peter Bregan, a practicing psychiatrist and the author of Medication Madness, among other books. And he's pointing out that the Navy Yard shooter was on an SSRI drug.

SSRI drugs have been associated with, correct me if I'm wrong, most of the mass shootings that we know of in the... in the history of the United States. Is that, is that an accurate statement? So. Perhaps we're just missing the obvious here? that a good portion of our country, certainly people in their 30s, 20s and 30s and younger, but it's always, you know, the kids, the kids, the kids. Hey, it's the moms. It's the young dads. It's the young people. It's the young... It's the incels.

Sorry, incels. They're all on these SSRIs. And if all day long, all day long, you get messaging from... President Barack Obama from everybody on the blue cry. I mean, I saw the video of that guy walking around the hotel hallways back and forth. These people are, in effect, modern MKUltra. It's not that hard. Well, this is a new thesis. I like it. I mean, see, and really, when you think about it... This stuff has been going

on since the 50s with these drugs. That really brought this home first was a drug called... reserping, which has been used to treat people who had hypertension. Now, it also became used as a drug to treat people who are anxious, a drug to treat kids who are hyperactive, a drug to treat people who are depressed, and a drug to treat people who have psychosis. But the interesting thing was that people being treated with hypertension, of course,

had no nervous problems at all. And they would say, I mean, there are reporters saying when they're in treatment in places like the Mayo Clinic, good clinics, they're reported as, say, you know, the first few doses I became. very agitated. I began having thoughts that were very unusual for me. Tostad included things like... like homicide. And it was only when I came off the drug that I realized it must have been the drug that did this. So that was there very early on. in the 1950s.

The reason we know about it, and everybody agrees, Recipent does these things. It makes you depressed. It makes you suicidal. It makes you homicidal. Everybody agrees about that because this is a drug that was cheap and generic, and

no pharmaceutical company had any interest to defend it. But when exactly the same things begin to happen on the later antipsychotics and the SSRIs we have now, of course, the pharmaceutical companies are making billions of dollars out of this, and they have every interest to defend the drug and tell people, no, heart drug couldn't cause this. So... Maybe it never really even was the true MKUltra. Maybe the algo is the MKUltra trigger. Maybe I've been looking

at this in the wrong way. Like, oh, it's got to be the CIA doing it. No, it's all around us all the time. And Brooks maybe sees it. Capehart, he's probably on him. No, it's gun violence. Scourge of gun violence. Guns. No, no. The guy had knives just in case, as an aside. So there's, there is something that the mainstream media. can't report on because they still have the drug companies as their largest advertisers. No one's going to do any news reports on it. And no

one, not even the. The big three, you know, the CBS, NBC, ABC, they're not going to do it. But this seems to me... No, they're beholden. They are completely... They're locked in, locked and loaded. Co-opted. Yes. So it's no wonder that a guy like this, just add blue sky. Oh. They're captured. Yeah, they are captured. I can go on. That's good. You got any more? I like it. Captured, beholden. captured yeah yeah co-opted co-opted co-opted yes

co-opted captured We need more Cs. So... Which reminded me, I wanted to mention this to you before we did the show, which was to dig up Kennedy's... Promise. Oh, his three promises? Where he had these four things he was going to do. stop the corruption of the... of the periodicals, uh, stop TV advertising. Yeah. There was a promise. I think it was, was it called promise? It was some sort of promise or something. RFK promise. Maybe that's what it was. I don't think it was. It's

probably this label. We'll never find it. No, we'll find it. I don't think he's done anything. All he's done so far is he talks a lot, talks a big game, but he just seems to have just gotten the red dye out of food and that's about it. And that wasn't even one of his promises. He's turned the pyramid upside down. RFK, was it promises? Was it, no, it was something else. It was like a to-do list for him. Yeah, I'm mad now that I, why can't I find this? Jr. Well, one of them was... advertising

so maybe I can find it that way. Oh, RFK. Okay, RFK Jr. Junior Dangerous, was that it? Yes, I have them. Ready? Go. Number one. I'm not intimidated by the agencies. I know how they work and I know how to change them. And most of those changes you do not need Congress for. The President of President Trump could have done it at power to do it himself and President Biden has the power to do it himself. And I'll give you an example. With a stroke of the pen. You can change back the rule. That allows

pharmaceutical advertisers to do direct-to-consumer ads on television. That's one of the big problems. That's one of the reasons. We have this entrenched agency capture not only of Congress because

they control the airwaves, they control the evening news. 75% of the revenues for those evening news shows are, you know, Anderson Cooper is coming from Pfizer, another pharmaceutical company, and those companies are dictating content on those shows and they dictate the... the official narratives and they're able then to exercise huge control over Congress. So Congress is terrified of them, but with a stroke of the pen. You can say this is not good for the health of

our country, which it isn't. We spend three times more than any other country for pharmaceutical drugs because of all this advertising. Okay, that was one. Promise number two. Another thing that I can do is I can open up all the databases. Right now, all the databases that you can actually check the efficacy and the safety of vaccines, like the vaccine safety database. It's the top. It's all the vaccine records and the medical. claims for 10 million

Americans from the top 10 HMOs. You can look in there and overnight you can say, oh, this vaccine is associated with diabetes. This one's associated with peanut allergies. This one's associated with ASD, neurological ticks or whatever. That database, CDC keeps it in a lockbox. like Fort Knox, and make sure no scientist is allowed in there. Well, I'll open up that database on day one. Day one? Day one, I'm still waiting to make my claim about being

vaccine injured in Tourette's. And then the final, I promise. And, you know, I'll also bring all the medical journals. the New England Journal of Medicine, the Lancet, JAMA, into the Justice Department as soon as I appoint an AG. And I'll say to them, you guys are part of

a racketeering syndicate. You're collaborating with these pharmaceutical industry. lie to the American public about the efficacy and safety of these products and you're causing enormous harm and we are going to sue you both civilly for damages and we're going to sue you criminally unless you come up with a plan right now as to how you're going to stop doing that. So I have a like I have a hundred things that I'm going to do immediately. Well, um... A hundred, he said. He said a hundred. Didn't

he just say that right there? He said a hundred. A hundred things. He's done one. On the advertising. I think he's done more than one. They did indict that one dude from the Wuhan lab. We'll see. We'll see. We'll see. He's right-hand man. We'll see where that goes. He got to the 11th. But on the advertising... The damage is done. The only thing, if you take away the big pharma advertising, The only thing that might achieve, and that's a big might, is that there would be

reports about SSRIs. I mean, we go back to Shempton. Shantix? Enchantix which they couldn't tell you that you know, I still believe Anthony Bourdain would be alive today if he hadn't taken shantyx You know, that stuff makes you crazy. Or made you crazy, or allegedly made you crazy. We have tons of reports. People waking up naked. A lot of reports from our producers. Waking up naked on the neighbor's lawn. I don't know how I got here.

What the heck? But so the SSRIs, I think that is, I mean, even if you stopped advertising, kids have breaks in school these days. You know, 12-year-olds. Oh, all right, everybody, 10, 15, time for everybody to take your meds. Teacher, gotta take my meds. Everyone's gonna take their meds. Ah, it's so entrenched. When I was a kid, nobody took meds. No, you took meds, you were a weenie. What are you? What's wrong with you? What's your meds? That is the... That is the basis of the

problem. But then you just need to add inflammatory language and expose everybody to it. And it's not just kids. The people taking these drugs are 30. 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s. Okay, back in the day we had Mom's Little Helper. Bye. Which was, what was that mom's, was that Prozac? It was a tranquilizer, it's different. Yes. Yeah. The SSRIs, admittedly, they don't even really know how they work. They just work. Yeah. So. Although I was gonna laugh at him. Chuck Todd kinda has the right idea. He's

such a weenie. Listen to Chuck Todd. You know, Chuck Todd does podcasts now these days. I'm not going to any more events where Trump's at them. I don't feel safe. Wherever Donald Trump is. Chaos follows him. Chaos follows him. And you are less safe, right? If you decide to go into his orbit, you have become less safe. He's just, he does not care about your safety. protect you if you go into his orbit because he's always going to protect himself first. He's more likely to throw

you under the bus. He's more likely to have you be the target of Iranian assassins if you're John Bolton or Mike Pompeo. And he's going to pull any sort of federal support, right? You know, I think about when somebody using Donald Trump's words and actions targeted me and a bunch of other members of the press. You know who I didn't hear from? Donald Trump. Right. So the guy doesn't care when people commit violence in his name.

He only cares when the violence is committed against him, and he does not see that he is a contributor to the atmospherics of the world we're living in right now. Okay. So anyway, all eyes on the cesspool of cynicism that is social media, because anyone could fall prey to this. Anyone. It's not even a political spectrum anymore. It's just whatever you've been inundated with, whatever has been injected into you. into your brain. We weren't built for

this. We weren't built for this type of information, this ingestation. We can't handle it. And especially not if we're on drugs that no one really knows how they work. But they might make you homicidal or suicidal. Okay. What could possibly go wrong? There, now I'm being cynical. Yep, you are. Yeah. Let's stick with Kennedy. Are we done with this thesis? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think we are. Yeah, the thesis is done. Yes, the thesis is over.

But we'll follow it closely. Oh, yes, because there's something up. I'm going to probably take the side that... It does slant. you politically. The SSRIs by itself slant you politically? Yeah, I'm going that way. Well, by the same reasoning, it may want you to chop off your bits. Ooh. Ooh. Ooh. So here we have-- Kennedy. Yeah, it's a true story. He did, you know, he's... You know, again, he's got these promises he's going to do 100

things he's done. Yeah, maybe five. Yeah. But let's, here he is at a hearing and kind of backing off on some of his thinking. Kenny Jr. hadn't testified on Capitol Hill since September. That changed this past week. He's just wrapped up seven hearings with several House and Senate committees. The topic was supposed to be his agency's budget, but lawmakers asked him questions far beyond that. Today, Kennedy testified before two Senate committees, Finance and HELP, which stands

for Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions. NPR's Selena Simmons-Duffins was... watching and is here to give us the highlights. Hey, Selena. Hi, Rob. Okay, so how did the hearings go today? You know, there were some intense moments, which wasn't a big surprise because Secretary Kennedy has gone into shouting matches with lawmakers many times over the last year. I was listening carefully to how Kennedy talked about vaccines. Prior

to joining the Trump administration... Of course, he built his reputation on anti-vaccine activism, but then there has been some reporting that the White House is worried about his stance and policy changes on vaccines as a political liability because his positions are pretty unpopular. Here is an exchange with Democratic Senator Michael Bennett of Colorado about the measles vaccine,

and he references CDC acting director... Are you taking the position as your CDC director has taken that the measles vaccine is vital to keeping American children healthy in this country? Are you taking that position today? That has not been your position. That's my position. We promote the measles vaccine. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Huh, that's his position. So

is that a new position for Kennedy? You know, the moment did strike me as a bit of a shift because Kennedy usually says that the measles vaccine is effective for those who decide to take it, framing it as a personal decision, which is not really how public health works. So him agreeing with the statement that the measles vaccine is close. What? vital to keeping American children healthy in this country was definitely notable. Although I don't want

to overstate it. In most hearings, most of the time, Kennedy still hedged when he was talking about promoting vaccines. Wait a minute. I'm misunderstanding how public health works. Apparently public health only works if things are mandated. Yes, if they tell you what to do. You must do this. or else you cannot make a choice my body myself forget it Yeah. That's what she said. Yeah. NPR, baby. Yeah, I caught that, too. Here's part two, which is

kind of interesting. Okay, so we heard a Democratic senator ask him questions. How did Republican senators question Kennedy? They were, by and large, very friendly. They wanted to talk about, you know, certain policy issues. There was a lot of praise. How old is she? Twelve? I'm just trying to guess by the voice. And agreements to work together. I was really at the edge of my seat when Republican Senator Bill Cassidy of Louisiana questioned Kennedy because there's

been this simmering conflict between the two men. Cassidy is a physician. He supports vaccines. He made Kennedy promise not to make big policy changes in exchange for his confirmation vote. Kennedy has violated those promises, and I was really expecting Cassidy to challenge Kennedy about those policies. Instead, he expressed concern. I am a doctor who has seen people

die from vaccines. preventable diseases. And when I see outbreaks numbering in the thousands and people dying once more from vaccine preventable diseases, particularly children, it seems more than tragic. That was very striking for Cassidy to go relatively easy on Kennedy when it comes to vaccines. Now, Cassidy is facing a... tough primary race in Louisiana, and President Trump has endorsed a rival in that race. These hearings were ostensibly about the Health and Human Services budget. What did

you learn there? Yeah, not a lot. There really weren't a lot of questions about the budget, even though Kennedy has made some big changes. He's cut 20,000 people from the staff of HHS. He's requesting a budget cut for next year. He's proposed eliminating whole agencies. He was asked a few times about programs that were being zeroed out. One of them is Title 10, which is a federal program that provides free birth control and STI testing to low-income people. And each time he was asked, he would

say the national debt is... really high. We have to make cuts somewhere. But there was also strikingly little about his plan to stand up a new agency called the Administration for a Healthy America. He would need Congress's help to do that. And there was really no progress on that front last year. It really doesn't sound like there's going to be a priority for Kennedy for this year either. Now, did you watch the hearing at all? Did you have a chance to watch any of the other

things that were going on? I watched a little bit of it, but I didn't get to watch the whole thing. I mean, is he just a disappointment? No, I think he's pinned in. by the bureaucracies, by the underlings. It's just a, it's a night, you know, he doesn't. From the outside, as a lawyer suing them, you know, it looks like one kind of animal. But when you're the animal, it's like a completely different thing, a structure you're not familiar with. You've never been the head of

an agency. It's all new to you, and you have no idea how the... how the mech there's a mechanism in all these agencies that overwhelms you. He can't do this, he can't do that. When he gets outside and just starts talking normally to people in these various podcasts he does, he gets to talk about stuff that he'd love to do, but you can tell he can't do it. Here's a clip from him on a pod. talking about the chickenpox vaccine. When CDC was thinking of recommending

this chickenpox vaccine as mandatory for children. They did a study and the scientists they hired to do that study was a scientist called Gary Goldman, a contract scientist. And he did this study in an isolated place in California called Antelope Valley, a long-term study. And what they find is if you give the chickenpox vaccine, mass vaccinate with chickenpox, it stops chickenpox, but it causes it. Shingles epidemics. later on. which are 20 times as deadly as chickenpox.

So if you go, so nevertheless, despite those studies, we mandated for American children in this country. In Europe, they don't. If you go to the British National Health Service website right now, you can read on that where they say, we do not recommend chickenpox vaccines because it causes shingles. Epidemics later on and that's the problem. You can't just look at you know, you can say that this product is going to prevent this particular disease. But you

have to look at the long term. Yeah. I mean, but what is it? I mean, I don't quite understand. You look at... Trump and Trump doesn't give a crap. But anything, I'm going to do this. I don't care if you don't like it. A lot of stuff is ineffective because the judges shut it down. The system shuts it down. He's in court a lot. That's annoying. The fact that he's got this Iran war thing as far as it goes. as it got is pretty amazing. Yeah, I agree. But Trump is, and Trump's also on his

second go round. His first go round, he was completely flustered. They had him in, you know, on this Russia hoax thing, which Obama was behind. Had him on the hook. You know, he was, he got nowhere. So, and that was four years of frustration. to impeachments. So Kennedy's just, you know, stumbled into this thing. He thinks he's going to, you know, he... discussed earlier how cool it was that he would get this job and thank God for his prayers were answered that he could be the

head of this thing and kick some ass. And now he's in there and he's kicking no ass. as far as I can tell, and I don't think that he's ever going to. It would take him at least four years to untangle the web of deceit. So as we say in Texas, like stepping in a red anthill, fire ants. Get in there. That would be bad. Get in. Oh, man. There was something else that happened around Kennedy's

orbit this week. Here in Washington, President Trump making a big move, dropping his controversial nominee for surgeon general after her confirmation got stalled on the Hill because of opposition from his own party, from Republicans. Here's the president in the last couple of hours formally signing that withdrawal. After months of questions about whether the Senate would actually confirm

Dr. Casey Means, she was his previous pick. Lawmakers on both sides of the aisle had criticized her for not being supportive of enough vaccines, for promoting the use of psychedelic drugs as therapy, for previously criticizing Americans' use of birth control, saying it had horrifying health risks, and over her qualifications generally. So she has now been pulled. The president and health secretary today are both blaming this guy, Senator Bill Cassidy, a Republican, for, in their view, sabotaging

means is confirmation. New pick. Here she is, a radiologist and Fox News contributor. The president says she is a star physician. We should note here this switch up marks the president's... third Surgeon General nominee. Monica Alba is at the White House. An interesting sort of, I don't know if you want to call it a back down, it feels like an acknowledgement of the reality here, that Casey Means was stuck in this limbo, and I think it seems like the President just wants to move on. Fair?

What are you hearing? I think that's absolutely fair, Hallie. It's been almost a year since he did nominate Casey Means, and ultimately realized that she just wasn't going to have the support, wasn't going to be able to get across the finish line for a Surgeon General, so he did withdraw her nomination. But you just mentioned all of the key players here, and we can unpack that a little bit, because Senator Cassidy had been a crucial vote

in order to confirm HHS Secretary Kennedy, right? Given some of the promises that at the time, Senator Cassidy had... said he had received from him on certain policy. And then you have Casey Means, who is a very close ally of Secretary Kennedy. And Secretary Kennedy is pretty disappointed and upset today, writing on X that he believes that this was basically a large attempt to get someone who has been, he says, by removing this appointment and technically

and very directly criticizes Senator Cassidy. And he says he once again did the dirty work for entrenched interests seeking to stall the Maha movement. This is what Secretary Kennedy is writing about Senator Cassidy and, quote, protect the very status quo that has made America the sickest nation on earth. I agree with that. And Cassidy's a bad actor. He's obviously co-opted by the pharma. And that's what he

did. Yeah, he's a doctor, so he's got creds. And he's got this comment about, oh, yeah, vaccines have saved lives. Yeah, in areas where you have, like... yellow fever and typhus and you have classic vaccines yeah they do they stop it Yeah. But he's also all in on mRNA, which is not a vaccine at all. No. And, you know, the rest of it. It's just like, or, and the flu shot every year, which, as we know, because we have the clips, and we have the documentation.

That gives you the flu. gives you the flu so what you know but he's all in on that too this is so the corruption is beyond again get pharma ads off tv So there was a new side effect of our favorite drug, although is it a drug? You know, they should call it a vaccine. seen since you injected GLP-1. I mean, if mRNA is a vaccine, then why not? It's a fat vaccine. Yeah, a fat vaccine. So the idea is you take the GLP-1, you inject it. Some people have resorted to saying, no, no, no,

no, I'm microdosing it. Yeah, that's what it is. Of course you're microdosing it. It's what I said for 15 years. What? 15? Since I was 15 years old. I'm just microdosing the weed. I'm okay. Don't worry about me. So, you know, your butt falls off, your face falls in. You're doing this to look better by losing weight. What's that over there? Your muscle fades away. And now... As GLP-1 drugs help millions of Americans lose weight, more and more users report dealing with side effects like hair

loss. And that's creating a billion-dollar opportunity for the hair treatment industry. Oh, it's an opportunity. It's not just a trend. I will call it an old category reset with a wide space of... of opportunity for both life science and beauty brands. I spoke with one GLP-1 user who experienced hair loss while she was on the weight loss drug. She said she used to have really thick hair, but it took a full year before she noticed it was falling out in clumps. In clumps, I tell you.

In clumps. Wow. So you want to look better by losing some weight. And the result is. You lose your libido. You lose your butt, you lose your face, and you lose your hair. Congratulations, you weigh five pounds. Come on, people! Listen to your podcasters, not medical advice. This

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other competition, have you heard the new InfoWars? Well, I know I have a little bit of inside information, but why don't you lead us down the path and I'll fill it in. So the onion, you know, ended up winning the bid and it was explained by some lawyers and it makes some sense. Onion wanted to turn it into a parody site, a parody of what InfoWars was. Well, here we go, new InfoWars 1. Hi, everybody. It's Tim Heidecker here. I'm broadcasting now live on the Internet.

Thank you for joining me. We have major, major announcements to go through here. Lots going on. Lot of turmoil the past couple days on our road. To total victory, we have just won a major battle, folks. Okay, Alex and his gang of liars and scoundrels have been cast out into the street. They have lost InfoWars, InfoWars.com, and their various platforms now. They have been cast out, ladies and gentlemen. And make no mistake. we will be the

new InfoWars. Now, we've got to go through the machinations of the court, and we've had some setbacks over the past couple of days, but that is not stopping us. It is not tempering our resolve. You know, as a fake Alex Jones, that's actually not bad. It's not bad, but then here's where I... Here's where I drew the line. The fake Alex Jones brings in a fake Donald Trump. And this is just just to preface it. The word I mean, there is a million people that can

do Trump. Why they got this guy. This is the worst of the worst. Lots going on here. Do we have anybody on the line? There's... I want to say, Tim, hello. This is the President of the United States of America. Ladies and gentlemen, we have the President of the United States, Donald J. Trump, a man that I have recently been feuding with over some of his... policy decisions, but a man that I believe is a good man and he's going to find his way through all

this. But sir, it is a pleasure to have you on here. Thank you. We're going to have our disagreement. We're going to have our fights, but we love each other. And when we love... Love can conquer all. Okay. Now, is this recent? This is old, isn't it? This has got to be old. No, it's just they're using the Infowars website. They're doing this now? Yeah. That's what I said, especially the Trump. That was the end. I cut it off. I'm not going to be listening to

the great parodies. So Alex Jones signed off the InfoWars. on Friday at 12 o'clock. Everybody who's been working on the show is in the studio. I didn't clip it. They were like, toasting. This is it, the end of an era. And they said goodbye to InfoWars. And so I immediately texted Sir Ducifer. I'm like, dude, what's going on? He says, oh, no, AlexJonesLive.com. Just, we need to get rid of all the baggage of InfoWars. The name, the trademark, the domain name. So now it's just alexjoneslive.com.

It's the same guy, same thing. Same deal. Same products. Same dynamite products. But I'm sure, which has always been an interesting business model, I thought. Well, according to the lawyers that were doing an analysis, I don't have any clips from that. Uh... Jones was doing 36 million in... pill sales. Yeah, that wouldn't surprise me. Yeah. Wouldn't surprise me. Uh, okay. He also had a bunch of weird

domain names. He was squatting on, uh... Probably, uh... 5 000 names including because i looked at the lists that were going through them yeah Joe Rogan exposed dot com. Hey, I've got a lot of winners, too. But, you know, I was going through my domains because I have to pare down. Because I have just too many. And some of them, if you get like a... You know, different dot somethings. Like, Dotto. You don't want a .fm. .fm is 150 bucks a year. No, it's too much.

It's way too much. When I registered MTV.com, I emailed the dude. In charge of the internec. I said, hey, can I have MTV.com? Sure. Do you want anything else? Yeah, curry.com, elvis.com. Okay, you got them. It's good. No charge. Nothing. Back in the day. It was good times back in the internet days. That's when art.com Yeah. Sold for a million dollars. Yeah. I still have diaries. You know, I have Infowars.nl. You know, your diaries thing seems to me to be... It's unsellable. I don't get it.

Well, on the last show, I said I'd give you $200,000 if you got me a million. I'm working on it. I'm going to agent this thing for you. And then we're going to get a NetJets. We're going to the Bahamas, baby. I'm gonna blow it all in one go. You deserve it. I have Infowars.com. NL for some odd reason. I don't know why. I would get rid of that. No kidding. No kidding. I have a couple of clips. I'm sorry. Did you want to do something else? Yeah, I was going to do one more screwball

clip. Yeah, sure. So Tucker... It was front page of New York Times. He was interviewed by this reporter who actually turns out to be quite good at doing follow-up questions with Tucker. Oh, like an actual reporter, an interviewer, someone who's doing something? She was pretty good. She nailed this guy. I have two clips from it. Now there's one that says... Antichrist. And what's the other one? I don't have it on this list. Kidnapper, Utah. Transgeneer. Kidnapper.

Transgeneer. No, no. It says Tucker. No, it says. Oh, hold on a second. Oh, no. I have. No, I only have. Oh, Tucker on J.D. Vance. Yes. Yeah. Dick. Got it. Play that. JD has been subject to, this is well known, but I'll just confirm it. Hold on, stop it right there. He starts off about J.D. Vance being, you know, they're out to get him. He says, it's well known, but I'll confirm it. Well, he always has facts. He's confirming what? He has facts. He has

inside information. So this woman does not put up with this. So let's start it over and note that he's trying to buffalo this poor girl and she's not buying a word of it. She sees him as a phony. Who is this girl? What is her name? I don't have Renee in my hand. We got to keep an eye on her. If she's good, she's good. JD has been subject to, this is well known, but I'll just confirm it, nonstop, treachery from people on the neoconservative side.

Who are these people? Around Marco Rubio. And they have been totally against JD Vance from the very beginning. Who do you mean specifically? You know, I don't know is the real answer. I don't know. You're accusing people of treachery, so I'm wondering. Well, I know there's been a lot of treachery, for sure, and I know they were so mad about J.D. getting that job. They? Who's they? Within the White House? I don't, you know, I don't

know the answer to that. I've never worked... So like if you don't work there you can say you you know you can say what you think you know But it's hard to really know. This is me looking skeptical. Yeah, well no I just mean being honest like I don't really know you know okay that this is a very good clip And the reason why is this is how... My cousin, Lucy, loved her dearly when she was a little girl. She was married to Christopher Buckley. which is the son of William F. Buckley Jr., etc., etc.

Oh, they're not married anymore? I thought they still were. Oh, no. They got divorced a long time ago. She had the house in Georgetown. She had the 66 Corvette. I mean, everything. Perfect. Perfect DC family. And this is how the Beltway talks. The way Tucker talks. And he's been there most of his life as well as Buckley, his brother, the Carlson kids. And this is how you

talk at a dinner party. You know, and you just say these things and you throw out there, you know, there's a lot of no. knows this and I'll confirm it. And, you know, there's a lot of these people and it's a fact, you know, it's just a fact. And no one in those circles will question it like this woman is. And so he's so used to just throwing that out there because someone told him, someone within the Beltway crowd who he trusts. And that's not, you

know, that's. I understand that. You know, someone's connected to someone else. Oh, I must know what they're talking about. So he's being called out on his milieu. It's me, yeah. Well, she did a good job there. So in the next clip, he comes up with she and she's a reporter for The New York Times. And so she. reads it, she reads. A quote from him. that is written down word for word for word, and he denies

saying it. And so in the middle of this next clip, I could have divvied this up a little differently, but right in the middle of the clip, you'll hear a slight different intonation, and that's Tucker. saying the quote From a, you know, from some, some, they bring in a clip on his podcast. Yeah. They bring in a clip of him and then they go back to Tucker still denying it. This is fascinating. What I was saying, which is you cannot mock. other people's gods. and put

yourself in their place. period. That is a deal killer for me. That's worse than the war with Iran, in my opinion. Yeah. But I ask because, you know, you've been talking on your show about whether Trump is the Antichrist. I have not said that. On your show, the day after Easter, you noted he did not put his hand on the Bible during his swearing-in ceremony as president. You said, and I'm quoting, maybe he didn't put his hand on the Bible because because he affirmatively rejects what's

inside that book. And then on a recent show, you went further saying, here's a leader who's mocking the gods of his ancestors, mocking the god of gods and exalting himself above them. Could this be the Antichrist? I actually did not say, could this be the Antichrist? Here's a leader who's mocking the gods of his ancestors. mocking the God of gods. and exalting himself above them. Could this be the Antichrist? Who knows? I don't know where that comes from, but I know that those words never left

my lips because... I'm not sure I fully understand what the Antichrist is, if there's just one. I actually tried to understand it. I may have said some are asking that I'm not. weighing in on that because I don't understand it. Wow. Interesting. So they have the exact quote that she reads. And he denies it and says, those words never left my lips. And then they have, of course, they have the actual him actually saying it. This is, to me, an indictment of what a phony this

guy really must be. Well, again, what you hear him say is. I don't really know what the Antichrist is. And then he goes on with that bull crap. Yeah, because he says these things with such authority, and then when he's called on it, he says, well, I don't really know what the Antichrist is. is and if there's just one or many of them and revelation and you know, Personally, I find his, uh... His so-called knowledge of scripture, extremely annoying because he does that all the time.

Well, the Bible says, I'm a Christian, I'm a Christian. It's how we do it. So, but on the other hand, I know that people have accused me of saying things like, I didn't say that. And then I go back and listen like, oh, crap, I did kind of say that. Yeah, but that's different than a reporter confronting you with an exact... quote. And she says it was quoted. I'm quoting you. And they read the quote. At that point, would you deny it? No, I'd be like, what? I said that? I must have been high. I'd

do something different than what Tucker did. It never left my lips. Now, it's possible. that he was possessed and it wasn't his lips that the words left from. Yeah, it was the demon, that damn demon that scratched him up. The enemy. That's where I'd go with it. Well, okay, if he does that, then I'll be backing off. I'd give him a pass for that. All right. Over to you. General Patton on the down low. I've changed it. I kept hearing myself say gay General Patton. I

didn't like it that much. I like General Patton on the down low. Our treasure secretary, Scott Besant. And he had this, he was on Kudlow's show, which is pretty insufferable usually. Oh, Kudlow. Kudlow always seems to be in the bag. He's in the bag for everything. He's almost like a Kramer. He's just a Fox version of Kramer. I like this because we got a little bit more of a timeline from Besant. And I have a couple

clips here, three clips. It was he was on for a half an hour it was really good when it comes to the coordination of Operation Epic Fury and Operation Economic Fury. All right, Operation Economic Fury is helping to win the war. Coming from the Treasury Department, we welcome back Treasury Secretary Mr. Scott Besson. Secretary, thank you for this. I know you're a very busy chap, but you know, your economic fury is doing a lot and it's

sort of offshore bank accounts and shipping issues. And I love this, the teapot refiners off the coast of China. And just tell us a little more about this, because I think this is going to be very. powerful stuff and is already having an impact. Larry, good to be with you. And to be clear, the president gave the operation, gave the order for max pressure campaign more than a year ago. He gave it to me and Treasury

last March. It was that pressure that. brought the Iranian economy to a standstill in December that led to the protest. The largest bank in Iran collapsed. The central bank had to monetize the debt and that created massive inflation. Their currency is down about 60 or 70 percent versus the U.S. So they're in the middle of a currency crisis. And what we're doing now is, you know, we've been in a long race and we are sprinting for the finish line. President Trump told me three weeks ago

to up the pressure again. And we have gone to the buyers of... Iranian oil and told them that we are going, we are willing to do secondary sanctions. What you don't hear General Patton on the down low say is, PB Netanyahu called me and said, hey, I got a plan. No, this was well thought out. And they even... thought out and I guess war game the whole Riots. Like, this will get people to the streets when their money's not worth anything and they can't buy anything.

That was over a year ago. Now, this second clip here is a little disappointing because they talk about crypto. And it's very unclear whether is it Bitcoin? Is it Ethereum? Is it stable coin? I'm pretty sure it's mainly stable coin, which also shows you how they will be willing to use stable coin in the future. But it all falls under the heading of crypto. Seizing assets, are you not? I... That's right, Larry. We were able to grab about 350 million crypto assets and then on top

of another 100 that we had recently gotten. So we're almost at half a billion there. And we are freezing bank accounts everywhere. More importantly, we are making people less willing to deal with the regime. And then so it's the economic fury along with the blockade, because now the... The port at Karg Island is at a virtual standstill in terms of loadings. We think that the Iranian... Storage will be full soon. They'll have to start. capping in

their wells, which will lead to permanent problems. And, you know, again, the regime won't be able to pay their soldiers. And equally important, Larry, is they won't be able to fund their proxies, whether it's Hezbollah. Hamas around the world because one of President Trump's goals in this was to stop Iran's ability to project terrorist power around the world. Iran was the largest sponsor of state terrorism around the world. They've been killing Americans for the past 47

years and that's... coming to a stop now. All right. So, okay. Crypto. But this final clip, this, I think, shows the genius of what Besant was doing. And remember, this guy worked for Soros. He knows how the system works. He knows how the money flows. He understands finance. FNAF. And this is how they decided. to break up OPEC. A couple million barrels more per day from maybe two, two and a half million to as much as five million. The UAE has chosen to side with the

United States in the dollar block. I think that's most significant. Whatever you did, whatever you have up your sleeve, Mr. Besson, I think is a pretty clever play. Look, the UAE and several other Gulf countries and some of our Asian allies have requested swap lines. And to be clear, Larry, that a swap line is not a bailout. It is just a swap for U.S. dollars for... the local currency at a fixed price. It is either done from the Fed or Treasury to the central bank. It

is the ironclad credit. These are some of the most liquid countries in the world. And they just asked for the swap line as another layer of... prevention and safety. So we are happy to support our allies during this time. And this is when during a conflict, we stand by them and we show our support both militarily and

economically. And they. The UAE has made the decision to get out of OPEC, which is why I'm confident that once we get on the other side of this conflict, that we will see oil prices and gasoline prices lower than they were when the conflict began. And if you look at the forward crude market, it's telling you the same thing. I mean, they're basically... I've chosen free markets over price controls. And my guess, I don't know, Venezuela,

Ecuador, Nigeria, they may follow suit. The Abraham Accords may go a lot lower. The dollar system, you've always been a strong dollar guy. That's why I think this is a great move. I'm not sure people understand just how important this UAE thing is. But I wanted to highlight it later. I agree with Kudlow. I think this is a great move. And you watch, you watch ships going straight to UAE. They're all in the dollar system. Stay in the dollars. You don't want that staple coin. Yeah.

That's why the swap line. Those clips kind of, since they talk about Iranian oil going to China. I have a China clip on this. I think this is an odd clip because they're warning the Chinese public. I don't know what the public's got to do with this, but play the China using Iran oil clip. China is instructing its citizens not to comply with new U.S. sanctions on Chinese oil refiners. After the U.S. said the five oil

refiners were buying Iranian oil, NPR's Emily Fang reports. China's Commerce Ministry said for the sake of national security, the U.S. sanctions would not be enforced. Before the war, most of Iran's oil ended up at small private refineries in China, ferried there by a so-called shadow fleet of ships. which the U.S. has also begun sanctioning. And that oil trade, the U.S. says, provided Iran's regime with much-needed cash.

U.S. sanctions means those oil refineries in China will not be able to use the U.S. dollar to do business or buy international insurance or dock at Western ports. But China settles most of its purchases with Iran. in Chinese Renminbi. And today's announcement that it will not recognize these American sanctions is a clear signal to ships carrying Iranian oil that the Chinese refiners would still be happy to

receive their cargo. Emily Fang, NPR News. Hmm. I mean, if Iran is receiving Remden B, What are they going to do with it? What are you going to buy with that? I mean, if you want some food. Buy Chinese missiles. Okay. Yeah, that's about it. Why even bother with the money part? Just ship some missiles over. Oh, because that's not that easy. Nah. Nah, the Shadow Fleet is real. That's for sure. You ever look at a world map of all the oil tankers in the ocean

at one time? Yeah, there's hundreds and hundreds. It's like millions. I don't know about millions, but there's a lot of them. Well, there's thousands. Hundreds. I'd say hundreds. I'm about thousands. I think there's at least a hundred. What are you eating? No, I'm having a lozenge. Oh, okay. Valid. So, eh. I don't know. I think that we've got OPEC falling apart. You've got UAE. They're like, hey, we want to pump more. We want more. We're buddies. We want to be in the dollar. We can do

5 million barrels. Then Saudi Arabia goes, hey. We can do that. We want to do some more oil. And then more oil, more oil. Yeah, once they all get the bug. Yeah. Then you won't even need Iranian oil. It's like, we've got enough of this stuff. It's good. I can see it. Now, of course... We have some issues. With the war, or should we say it's a military operation? I'm not sure if we call it a war, a military operation. Is it a war? I don't know what it's called anymore, just an embargo. I don't

know. You say that you're not actively at war. Here is what President Trump had to say on Friday. I want to play it for you. Get your reaction on the other side. This is from this morning. Meet the press with Todd Blanche. They don't like the word war and they call it a military operation because that way you don't have a war, you don't have legal problems. Is the president effectively arguing? If you don't call it a war, you don't have legal problems. He's talking about

the War Powers Resolution. Yeah, right. Because that way, you don't have a war, you don't have legal problems. Is the president effectively arguing that he can avoid congressional approval by avoiding using the word war? He's not effectively arguing anything except that he is trying to keep this country safe. Oh, okay. All right, Todd. All right, Todd Blanchard. There's a good yes, man. Let's go to NBC. The

war is now 60 days old, an important marker. A 1973 law requires the president to end military conflicts unless the commander-in-chief gets congressional approval to continue. The administration says the ongoing... ceasefire paused that 60-day clock. Republican leadership agrees. But Democrats and some Republicans say it's time Congress gets involved. One GOP lawmaker says she plans to introduce an authorization for use of military force, AUMF, when the Senate

returns. The president should have before engaging in military action at this scale that we're seeing now. oil tankers moving. This as American drivers face surging gas prices, with the average cost of a gallon now $4.39. But in many parts of the country, it's even higher. $6.19, I'm not touching it. $40, $50 to fill my tank, but now it's from empty, it's $80 to $90. That's forced. drivers to find alternative ways of getting around. I just got

a monthly bus pass. Kind of putting in that calculation of how much this thing costs and how much it costs to drive every day, it just makes so much more sense as a college student just to do this. President Trump says he doesn't need congressional approval for the war. In letters to Congress today, he says the hostilities terminated the day the ceasefire began last month. But he did not address the naval blockade on Iranian ports. That's not war. That's just a blockade. Come on! Congress is

flummoxed by this. Like, well, no one ever did this. No one ever called it something else. Wait a minute. Blanche Blanche Republican Senator Susan Collins posted quote the president's authority as commander-in-chief is not without limits That deadline is not a suggestion. It is a requirement. Are there any legal limits on the president's powers to carry out the war with Iran? Suggesting the president Trump or this administration or the Department of War is violating the law is

just completely wrong. It's not appropriate to say that. We are not. We are complying with the law. Oh, man, he is a yes man. Don't answer the question. Just say it's inappropriate. It's wrong. Axios reports per sources the plan set a one month deadline for negotiations on a deal. to reopen the Strait of Hormuz, end the U.S. naval blockade, and permanently end the war in Iran and

in Lebanon. Per the Iranian proposal, only after such a deal is reached, another month of negotiations would be launched to try and reach a deal on the nuclear program, the two sources said. The president is leaving the door open for more strikes if a deal is not reached. Yes, we continue. This will go on. It'll be another month at least. And ABC, well, maybe if we just tell them that his numbers suck. And in this new ABC News Washington Post Ipsos poll, Trump is underwater on

every single issue they tested. With two-thirds of Americans saying... What if you're... Underwater, what is the baseline for underwater? I think 50%. Oh, okay. The country is headed in the wrong direction. But that being said, his base is still with him. 85% of Republicans approve, but look closer, the share who strongly approve has dropped to 45%, and that is the lowest. among Republicans across both of his

terms. Then if we dig into the issues that's driving this, about three quarters of Americans disapprove of how Trump is handling the cost of living. Roughly two thirds disapprove on the economy, the issue that Trump campaigned on. And a majority say using military force against Iran was a mistake, Gio. Speak mistake. It's a big mistake. It's a big mistake. And of course the president. Do you see... He must have tea with the president all the time,

don't you think? Well, he's definitely the number one go-to guy for the press. Corps. Oh, yeah. I mean, he gets the questions ahead of time. And then I'm sure it's like, make it sound good, Deucey. Commander come in here yesterday. Was he briefing you on a different approach and options? What kind of options? How would it look different? I mean, do we want to go and just blast the hell out of them? Finish him forever or do we want to try and make a deal? Those

are the options. Do you want to go blast the hell out of him? I prefer not. On a human basis, I prefer not, but that's the option. Do we want to go in there heavy and just blast them away? Or do we want to do something? They're a very disjointed unit here. But you can understand Peter, very disjointed. I mean, they, um... They're not getting along with each other. And it puts us in a bad position.

One group wants to make a certain deal. The other group wants to make a certain deal, including the hardliners. The hardliners want to make a deal, too. Why wouldn't they? They have no navy. They have no air force, they have no anti-aircraft, they have... They have no nothing. Something about a New Yorker saying they have no nothing. It's just great. They have no nothing. But on the way back, when we're done with Iran, which I think will probably be in about 45 days, when we're done

with Iran, we're going to... Swing by Cuba. Thank you, Dan. Good job. An architect who's really talented, he's done a lot of work for me. He's got a flair, a beautiful Hispanic flair in particular. And he comes from originally a place called Cuba. Cuba. Which we will be taking over almost immediately. No, Cuba's got problems. We'll finish

one first. I like to finish a job. On the way back from what we'll do, on the way back from Iran, we'll have one of our big, maybe the USS Abraham Lincoln aircraft carrier, the biggest in the world, we'll have that come in. stop about 100 yards offshore and they'll say thank you very much we give up People get so disjointed over these jokes. Seriously, I see it in the troll room. He's laughing about murdering people. Get a grip on your pearls. And this was a

gem about Ilan Omar. Ah. This is your president in true stand-up form. But J.D.' 's done a great job. Thousands and thousands of people are... It's a fraud. I mean, look at the wonderful country. It's a beautiful country. You should try it sometime. Somalia. It's a beautiful... place It's got no government. It's got no military. It's got no... Anything. It's got one thing that's really strong. Crime. It's got a lot of crime. They have no police.

All they do is run around shooting each other. It's filthy dirty, disgusting dirty. It's a horrible place. They come here and Ilhan Omar. You ever hear of him? She hedged it. They have nothing but crime, poverty, pollution, everything is horrible over there, nothing good. They say it's the worst country anywhere in the world. We got some beauties out there, but it's the worst. And then she comes here from Somalia and she tells us how to run the United States of America. She says. She says the

Constitution gives me certain rights. It gives me certain rights. And I demand... that I be given these rights. Get the hell out. What a phony. And then she married a brother to come in. I don't know, you know? But I think, I would imagine they're looking at her. I have nothing to do with it. I would imagine. Of course I have nothing to do. I have nothing but. I believe she married her brother, which is totally illegal. Although it's a lovely couple, actually, but it's a

little bit on the illegal side. Darling, I love you very much. Good night, brother. Let's go to bed. Isn't she despicable? I can't stand watching. I'm going to miss him. I'm going to miss him. I think it's funny. So many people get so upset about this. Yeah. Yeah, it's unexpected, you know. Yeah. Nobody knows what to make of it. It's okay if you're upset about it, and I'm okay with that, and I'm okay with you being upset about it, but not if you're on SSRIs, okay?

Just make sure if you're on SSRIs and you're upset about it, your meds ain't working. Okay, you gotta get different meds. But when the topic of a run, I'm also getting this out of the way, the smuggling of the... of the satellite receivers going on right now is kind of It's a topic of discussion. This is Iran internet smuggling. NPR. A network of Iranians have been smuggling

Starlink satellite terminals into the country. The technology is the most common way of bypassing the internet blackout in Iran, one of the longest in history. Our reporter Reha Kansara has more. Iranian regime has proven that... During the shutdown, they can kill. It is crucial for Iranians to be able to portray the real picture of the situation on the ground. I'm speaking to an Iranian man who is part of a clandestine network dotted across the globe, helping

to smuggle Starlink terminals into Iran. Plus... We want to make sure that whatever gets out of the country is not being manipulated by the Iranian regime's narrative. What he's doing is putting a lot of people inside the country, including his family, in danger. He only agreed to speak to me on the condition that I do not reveal his real identity. We purchase Starlinks and smuggle them through

the borders. It's a very complex operation. I'm not going to give you the exact number, but we have sent over a dozen, and we are actively looking for other ways to smuggle in more. The satellite technology, which helps people connect to the internet, has become a vital communications lifeline for tens of thousands of people in Iran. For more than two months, they've been in a digital black hole. It was triggered by the ongoing war with Israel

and the US. The Iranian government said they shut down the internet because of security concerns. It's one of the longest nationwide internet sh- I don't think this is entirely true anymore. Commercial flights, I've heard, have resumed from Tehran. Um... phones seem to be working? And I hope on May 11th, which I think is Monday, I'm going to have a... a dinner with lex and his wife who has all her family in tehran and I'll get some more boots on the ground, but I don't think it's

quite that bad as portrayed here. It could be not as bad as portrayed, but I think it's interesting that Musk's... system It's become such an interesting kind of a proposition for people that need to get Internet access without going through channels. Well, this is the Internet in a suitcase. Remember that? Well, it's a little more than that, I think. No. I mean, the internet in a suitcase, that was, that was. It was pre-Starlink. Yeah. Oh, no,

it was definitely pre- Let's see. Here's Lucifer. I get a lot of invitations to speak these days. Oh, that was the kid. I was that kid. was working at the state department who later had to leave he was the internet in a suitcase but i have one you know musk sent out had some bonus deal because i have the starlink as a backup i know i thought you had it hooked up no i have i have starlink hooked up but that's a pretty big dish and then he said for five dollars a month If you

don't hook it up, we'll just charge it. five bucks a month you get the the mini portable one which is really tiny How tiny. Uh, it would fit in... briefcase The whole thing. We'll give you the dimensions of the dish. I have to get it. Not even the dish, actually, just the flat panel. I'll play your second clip. and I'll get it out of the closet. Yeah, play the second clip. Okay. But it's not the first

time this year the internet has been switched off. In January, the country was plunged into darkness during a deadly crackdown on protests. Media organisations, including the BBC, relied on a drip-feed of information from inside the country a lot of which was shared on social media using Starlink Internet to verify and document atrocities committed by the authorities. Marwa Fatafta from digital rights group Access Now says the blackout

helps the government conceal what's happening inside the country. In times of crisis, this is not only an attack on freedom of expression, ...expression, press freedom or access to information is a matter of survival. Shutdowns inflict serious physical, psychological and economic harms on people and they shatter a society's

ability to preserve and withstand hardships. And no matter what the justification may be for a government to kill the switch, communications blackouts... are a clear violation of human rights and they can never be justified. Multiple arrests have been made of Iranians importing, procuring, selling and buying Starlink. Many have been accused of espionage. Roya Boromand from the Boromand Center for Human Rights says since the regime came into

power in 1979, it's always sought to conceal information. Only its methods have changed. Iran has denied citizens' right to seek, receive and impart information for decades. But in the face of internal calls for regime change and external military attacks, it has escalated the hunt and the arrest of citizens who circumvent censorship using Starlink devices. It's about the size of an iPad. Oh. And it weighs one kilo. It was a two-pound iPad. It's a slab. But yeah,

that's it. It's like an iPad Pro, I would say. It's just a flat panel. Yeah. Well, yeah. It's a... Let me see the depth here. The depth is... About an inch and a half. Oh, it's, yeah, I guess it gives enough room. Yeah, so it's... it's small. I mean, it's, it's, it's an, you can put it in your pants. You could smuggle it in your pants. Yeah, it's fantastic. That's the only, I mean, you can't hate the guy for that. That's Starlink stuff, although he doesn't

do reverse DNS, which is a real problem. That's kind of wonky network-wise. A lot of nerds. complain about that. Like you don't have reverse DNS. Not everything's going to work well. Well, you know, one of the problems you have with all this gear... is that in the UK, for example, you know, they have these roving vans with the big dish on the roof. Looking for people with illegal TVs. Yeah. Because the receiver is also a transmitter. It's not even a big dish. It's a small dish.

I've seen them. I thought it was a big dish. No, no, no, no. It's a small dish. Well, they look for the illegal TVs. Uh, because you have to have a license. in the be in in the uk yes to watch television which is ludicrous but okay it's their system Well, yeah. They have a king. They have a king. Let them. No kings, man. No kings, man. It's unclear when the internet will be restored, but a government spokesperson has said once the situation returns to normal,

so will internet access. The smuggler and others like him will continue to fight for vital information to get in and out of Iran until restrictions are lifted. I think people and the world should hear the real voice of Iranians. This is our goal and we will continue working towards it. End. End. Okay. Well, I'll find out more next week or the week after that, Tuesday, the 11th, hopefully. We'll find out more. Find out more. Uh, let's see, um... Let's do a little... A little big tech

AI news. Always fun. A little big tech AI news. No AI news. AI news. Yes, everyone's joining in now. We're good. Hey, man, we're good. You can use our stuff. Let's do war with our stuff because it's so solid. Alphabet's Google has reportedly joined a list of tech firms to... sign a deal with the U.S. Department of Defense. It's to use its AI models for classified work. The Information reported the deal on Tuesday, citing a person

familiar with the matter. It added the agreement allows the Pentagon to use Google's AI for any lawful government purpose and puts it alongside OpenAI and Elon Musk. XAI, which also have deals to supply AI models for classified use. Classified networks are used to handle a wide range of sensitive work. They include mission planning and weapons targeting. Reuters couldn't verify the report. The Pentagon signed agreements worth up to $200 million. each with major AI labs last year,

including Anthropic, OpenAI and Google. Reuters had earlier reported the Pentagon wanted top AI companies to make their tools available on classified networks without the standard restrictions they apply to users. The information reported Google's agreement requires it to help in adjusting the the company's AI safety settings and filters

at the government's request. Alphabet and the US Department of Defense, which has now been renamed the Department of War by President Trump, didn't immediately respond to requests for comment. Google said it supports government agencies across both classified and non-classified projects. and added it was committed to the consensus AI shouldn't be used for domestic mass surveillance or autonomous

weaponry without appropriate human oversight. The Pentagon has said it has no interest in using AI to conduct mass surveillance of Americans or to develop weapons that operate without human involvement, but wants any lawful use. of AI to be allowed. I like the, uh, we don't need your AI for mass surveillance. We just buy it from Google. We don't need to spend money on you guys for that. Yeah. That's stuff I have to say. Now, for certain

things, this stuff is really, really impressive, although... Dave Jones over there at Podcast Index. He and I have been doing comparisons. And if you use Claude Code with Opus 4.7. which will cost, if you want to get anything done, $100 a month. If you really are using it a lot, $200 a month, which is a lot of money. He's using... pi, P-I, P-I dot dev, which is, uh... an agentic thing. And you can connect that to any large language model. And he has, at his job,

he has a $3,500 machine. I forget what he calls it, but it has all the RAM and everything in it that you need. And he's running QEN 3.6, 35 billion parameter. It is equal. equal to Claude Code with Anthropix Opus 4.7, except you don't have to pay a subscription. You got to shell out some money up front. So when you hear the next clip. These guys are going to run into trouble. The investors will run into trouble somewhere down the road. And it's been a tough

week for OpenAI. Reports of missing key targets, Sam Altman on trial against Elon Musk, and now, rival Anthropix business may have caught up. Kate Rooney has more in Tech Check. Hi, Kate. Hi, Kelly. So that's what we're hearing. I am hearing that Anthropic right now is in talks to raise another round of capital. If it does go forward as planned, it could value this AI giant at as much as $900 billion. This is according to a source familiar with those deal talks. Kelly, no term sheets

have been signed yet from what I'm told. Discussions are still ongoing, and Anthropic did decline to comment. But this would be more than double the company's last valuation of private markets and then put it ahead of rival OpenAI, which was last worth around $850 billion. That was after its record fundraise earlier this year. It does come as

both of these AI giants look to go public. According to sources, could depend on market conditions, but Anthropix exploding revenue growth has been the main reason that investors have been lining up to back them. So Anthropix last reported run rate was around $30 billion. Sources now tell me that is closer to $35 billion. It would be up from $10 billion just last year. So, cloud code has been the major revenue driver here for this company. Also,

a lot of intrigue around mythos. This, of course, is the cybersecurity model. It's gotten a lot of buzz. It is now only available to a select group of companies, but it's really added to the allure for investors when we talk about the potential power of these models. In the last hour, though, Anthropic did make another move in the cybersecurity. Yeah, this is not going to end well. There's too much money and no money coming in. What makes you think that? I can do math. I can

calculate. This is not going to work out. Well. Maybe after the midterms. Something's got to... I mean, how much longer can these guys delay their IPO? They have... to come out soon no it has to be sooner than later yeah do you think it'll be before the midterms Well, it may be before the midterms, but it's not going to, the collapse won't be before the midterms. Will the collapse be in 2027, you think? Early 2027? It's gotta be next year. Yeah. It's going to be so,

so amazing to watch. I mean, it'll suck. It's not going to be good for the donations to the show. No. You have enough trouble. Could it get any worse? All right, now the people who clearly are going to lose out are Hollywood. Hollywood is just struggling. They are struggling to hold on. And the Oscars who are going to YouTube. They put their foot down. Yeah, they did. Artificial intelligence could revolutionize the film industry, but it won't

be winning any Oscars. New rules set out by the Academy of... motion picture arts and sciences on Friday stated that in the acting category only roles credited in the film's legal billing and demonstrably performed by humans with their consent will be considered eligible The new rules also say

screenplays must be human authored to be eligible. They come hot on the heels of the unveiling of an AI version of the deceased film star Val Kilmer at CinemaCon, a yearly event that showcases new films for cinema owners. The producer of the film, called As Deep As The Grave, explained: We do take archival footage, pictures. and voice recordings to build a character and from there we have

to integrate that character into what we already filmed. We're making a bold claim, bold statement, which is that we believe we're doing this in an ethical way. The director of the film was at pains to reassure both actors

and the wider film community. Actors are not going to be replaced and we're going to make And that really comes down to the entire community coming together to help set these guidelines and guardrails for everybody so we can follow a structure, because the technology is going to be here no matter what we do. The Academy declined to comment on if Val Kilmer's AI-rendered performance would be eligible for an Oscar, saying that eligibility would be rev... I

think we should make a pact. If I die before you, I fully endorse recreating me with AI. Okay, you're done. Tourette's and all. Make sure it's all in there. Make sure it's accurate. Darren can do it. He's prompting as we speak. Darren's got all these little, he doesn't get a lot of play, but I've been reposting the little animations he's been doing. Yeah, with the girls? Pretty dynamite. The girls? Yeah, always something growing. He's got a

cartoon version now, which was pretty decent. Although, for some reason, the No Agenda shirt... on one girl turned from black to green. Oh, well. Right in the middle of the animation. Oh, well. How does that happen? You can't iterate. Once it's done, you've got to accept it or reprompt and you just get a whole new version. Yeah, you might as well just go with it, you know.

But yeah, the Val Kilmer thing is one. But Star Wars had a, or it was either Star Wars or an old Star Trek movie, had some, there was a dead actor, but they had to bring him in to... This was years ago. They had to bring in kind of a model of him because he was necessary for the storyline. And he wasn't even alive. They put it in, nobody ever talked much about it. Ooh, that's great. And then there was the movie, the Scorsese movie, where they had De Niro and all these people change their

ages or younger. They're all, you know, basically masked. No, but this is about money. It's just about money. You know, I say now... As I speak. You may recreate me when I'm gone and make money off of me. Please. Well, we'll see what happens with the Curry estate. The Curry estate. Yeah, the Curry Estate. We're pissed off. Okay. Here's SAG-AFTRA to round this out. It looks like this is the writers and the screen actors guild, but not everybody's here. I don't think the directors guild is

set yet. We are following developing news now. SAG-AFTRA has reached a tentative agreement with the major Hollywood studios avoiding a repeat of the strikes from just three years ago. NBC. 54's Macy Jenkins is live outside the... By the way, the troll room is asking, can we do it now? Well, I'd have to approve it now. If you can do it now, we can split the proceeds. It won't be as good. Well, if it is... It won't be as good. Come on. Okay. I got after a

headquarters in mid Wilshire. Macy. Hi Kathy and Jonathan. Well listen, we will not know what's in that agreement until the SAG National Board has a chance to review it. One of the biggest issues, just like it was three years ago, protections against AI, which is getting smarter and more advanced by the minute. This cinematic showdown between Hollywood A-listers Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise drew millions of views on social media earlier this year and harsh critiques because

this is completely AI generated. They're taking the likeness of major performers like Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt and they're just able to replicate it. in seconds. It's a major concern for SAG-AFTRA actors like Chuck Slavin. One he hopes is addressed in the tentative agreement reached Saturday between SAG and the AMPTP, the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers. Well, I have to tell you, I'm a little concerned. Overall, I think the future is rapidly changing, and

I think that... We certainly need to protect image likeness when it comes to AI. We need to ensure that members get royalties and residuals on the work that they're doing. Scanning is a major threat. A tentative deal avoids a repeat of 2023 when SAG-AFTRA's 160,000-plus members went on strike for four months, demanding fair pay and protection. against AI stealing their livelihood. It comes just one month after the Writers Guild of America reached a four-year deal with

the AMPTP. Historically, these contracts have been three-year deals, but in exchange for adding the fourth year in the WGA's recent agreement, the union received a $321 million infusion. into its health fund. Looking at how fast technology is advancing, a four-year deal locks us into a disadvantage. So you all can sit at home being sick. Well, that's great. No, Hollywood loses. They lose. They lose. That's just... Well, they've got to lose for sure. Yeah, they've already kind

of... lost. I mean they have no stories. Everything is a sequel. What is the new sequel coming out? Is something another new sequel? Everything's a sequel. Yeah, everything, they ran out of ideas. Yeah. How did that happen? How did that happen? Let me ask you. How did that happen? It's never happened before. They were making movies back in the silent era, in the 20s and the 30s. There were all kinds of great movies. The 40s, great movies. 50s, great movies. 60s and 70s, especially the 70s,

tremendous films. What happened? Too many movies being made. There's not enough. I wouldn't say there's a ton of them being made now, are there? Oh, yeah. I think it's just short. Yeah, no, no. They're going straight to Netflix in eight mini-movies. Oh, yeah. Eight series. Yeah, you're right. You're right. You're right. That's where that goes. Tons of crappy movies on Netflix. Yeah, where it should be an hour and a half movie and they turn it into eight hours and call it a series. And then if

it gets enough, then they'll do another series. Yeah, we're due for another Blair Witch Project, one of those deals. Some kids come along and do something that blows everybody away. You're cheap, yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's gonna happen. What do you make of this Epstein suicide note? Well, here's a clip. No, hold on a second. Here we go. I got it. New Tonight did accuse sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein, write a suicide note before attempting to take his

own life. The New York Times reporting that a note may exist and is being held under seal by a federal judge. Epstein allegedly writing, it's time to say goodbye. According to this man. convicted murderer Nicholas Tartaglione, a former NYPD officer who shared a cell with Epstein in 2019. Tartaglione said something similar in a podcast last year. Jeffrey Epstein wrote a suicide note. He says he discovered the note after Epstein's apparent suicide attempt weeks before his actual

death. It was in my book, yeah, when I got back into the city. Tertaglione adding... you know, looked into me for months and found nothing. NBC News has not seen the note, and The Times says it has not either. In a statement, the DOJ says it is hard to comment on a note. it has not seen, adding the department underwent an exhaustive effort to collect all records.

Epstein's death, which the medical examiner's office declared a suicide, has been the subject of intense scrutiny, with many speculating without proof that Epstein was murdered. A suicide note could potentially dispel the conspiracies. The New York Times is asking the federal court to unseal the alleged suicide note, which is caught up in Tartaglione's legal proceeding. The Times arguing he talked about the note in that podcast and public interest in Epstein is immense. I got an interview with

Steve Eder. He's the... One of the reporters on the byline for that story about the note. He was on CNN. Listen to this. Now, the Times reports that the alleged suicide note was sealed by a federal judge as part of the cellmate's criminal case. My source on this tonight is on the byline of this story, the investigative reporter for The New York Times, Steve Eder. And thank you, sir, for being here, because I want to start

with how this. possible note was recovered. The cellmate apparently says he found the note in his cell tucked into a graphic novel. end up locked away by a judge. What's a graphic novel? Is that a novel? Is that a comic book? Comic book. Yeah, it takes a circuitous path, I guess, to being locked away from a judge. But basically, the short of it is, is that the The cellmate says that he discovered the note in the days after Epstein was found injured in his cell, right?

And he turned it over to his lawyers. His lawyers apparently, according to a document that we reviewed, tried to authenticate it, weren't able to right away. And then it ended up being moved over to... his criminal case, not the Epstein case, but this other case that was playing out kind of parallel and ended up sort of sequestered from the Epstein proceedings in this whole other separate case for years now. And in that case, the judge put

the letter, this purported note under seal. If you're interested, I have another clip. that explains the process of how it got under seal. Yes, please. Before we get to the contents of the note and what it might mean, why is it locked up in a courthouse? Like, why wasn't it released as part of the Epstein document? Yeah, so even before that, John, good morning to you. I think it's important to discuss whether it's authentic or not. I want to get to that, but just tell me

why it's locked up. is that it was under seal. And apparently judges have vast discretion with respect to whether they're putting something under seal, which means it's not in the public's view. It's not in the court records. If you go and right now we have a system in federal court, state court too, where you can literally go into the docket and look at a variety of materials.

Well, there are some materials that are under seal. materials that are sensitive that are not going to be in that docket because a judge in that judge's discretion will seal it. That's what they did here. Remember, this involves Tartaglione. Who's he? He's a person who was convicted. He was Jeffrey Epstein's cellmate, and he ultimately was convicted for

four, yes, four quadruple murder. And as a result of that and them sharing a cell, He purportedly, that is, Mr. Tartaglione found the note, reported it to his lawyers. He had about 18 of them, by the way, over the course of time. And they got involved, the lawyers did, with respect, hey, what should we do with the note? How do we authenticate the note? Should we put the note under seal? It became the subject of a lot of controversy. The attorneys argued it was attorney-client privilege.

incident to their communications and them seeking advice and will Jeffrey Epstein claim that I actually, Tartaglione, his cellmate, killed him or tried to kill him and so what do we do? And so the judge ultimately said it's going to be away from public view, it's going to be in a vault in the federal courthouse and it has remained there for all this time. Basically a judge has his... under his purview right now, involved in a separate case, which is why it was not part of the

Epstein files per se. And the source here, this is from a cellmate charged with four murders, quadruple murder, who said he found the note and is the only person that we know so far to tell us what was on it. Time to say. So the credibility of the source? What am I going to do now? Burst out in tears. They found nothing, meaning indicating what was on that particular note. Well, I don't think this means very much. It's interesting, though, how that happened. Yeah, it's kind

of fascinating, I guess. I didn't realize it's so easy to ditch stuff. Yeah. There's another, um... Yeah, man, you predicted this so early on. About parents getting... Sued. Getting locked up for their children's crimes. Yeah, well, it hasn't really caught on yet to an extreme. Well, no, it's catching. A beloved Vietnam War veteran and teacher has... died two weeks after he was allegedly hit by a teen on an e-motorcycle. Now the teen's mother is facing manslaughter

charges. CBS LA's Nicole Comstock with the charges and the heartbreak from friends of the victim. After a two week long fight for his life, treasured Vietnam veteran Orange County teacher Ed Ashman has died. This after prosecutors say a 14-year-old boy illegally riding a powerful e-motorcycle hit Ashman while he was walking home from school and left him in the street. I feel pretty bad. was 81 and I

didn't want to see him go out like that. "Long time friends and neighbors say after serving our country with honor as a fighter pilot, then dedicating his golden years to mentoring the next generation at El Toro High School, it's a shame that a young teen's actions allegedly led to his death." "The Vietnam War, he went through that and then this happened." The boy's mom, Tammy Jo Mayher,

has now been charged with involuntary manslaughter. The new felony complaint alleges she was also an accessory after the fact, harboring and concealing her son so he could avoid arrest and punishment. Police say they already told the boy's mother a year ago, on body-worn camera, that she could face criminal charges. for continuing to allow her son to ride

the e-motorcycle that requires a driver's license. Orange County District Attorney Todd Spitzer says in writing, this mother essentially handed her 14-year-old son a deadly weapon and despite multiple warnings on the dangers, continued to let him illegally ride. Hmm. Well, they get this kind of an open and shut case. It's a little more easier to push than someone who's just a careless parent and lets their kid go wild. Well. This is a question for Darren O'Neill. He

keeps track of the murders and shootings in Chicago. How many parents of those kids, because a lot of them are kids, do you ever hear in a story like this? Well, none yet. No, none. It's going to happen. That doesn't seem like it's... You have to get a build... There has to be a build-up. of case law. So it's gonna have to be after, you know... Maybe. dozens of cases like this go through and so you can put together this kind of an indictment. Based on

something that's happened already. But it never used to be that way. I don't understand. I mean, he used to go to juvie. Why the parents now? I just don't get it. It doesn't make sense from a legal perspective. It will. Shut up. It will make sense. Shut up. It will. Shut up. The law will be the law. I don't like it. Well, I kind of like it. Really? Okay. Uh... How about a drunk or not drunk? Oh, we haven't had one of those in a while. I don't even know if I can find the jingle

or not. I'm drunk. Yeah, I was hoping for the jingle. Not drunk. Drunk or not drunk. Uh... Let me see. I have it here. I think I have it here. No, that's not it. You know, whatever happened to that jingle? Drunk or not drunk. I have a million drunk or not drunks, but none of them says, this is the jingle, Adam, the one you're looking for. Oh, here it is. In fact, I have it. Drunk or not drunk, jingle original! Drunk or not drunk! Found it. Yeah, I found it. All right, here we go. Can't

wait. I gave it set it up. This is one of the... one of the Reverend Al's meetups, and he's got Kamala Harris. So are you gonna run again in 28? Um, Listen, I might. I might. I'm thinking about it. But let me say this. Let me say this. I am thinking about it. But let me also say this. I served... for four years. being a heartbeat away from the presidency of the United States. I spent countless hours in my West Wing office. footsteps away from the

Oval Office. I spent countless hours in the Oval Office and the Situation Room. I know what the job is. And I know what it requires. and I am thinking about it in the context of then You know, is... Who and where and how can the best job be done for the American people? That's how I'm thinking about it. I'll keep you posted. I'll keep you posted. Okay. All right. All right. Vice President of the United States. Kamala Harris. Drunk. I'm going to say not drunk. I

think she's not drunk. I think it's a different, you need a different jingle for her. Black or not black. I think she's trying to do kind of a... Oh, jeez. Yeah, she's kind of trying to do like an urban type vibe. You know, I was just steps a heartbeat away. Hop it away from the presidency. No, I don't think she's drunk here. You think she's drunk? Okay, I just, it seemed drunk to me. Well, okay. She seems drunk to me all the time. How about SSRIs?

Interesting. I have this old PBS NewsHour clip, and the only reason I want to play it is because it's got the 33,000. is in the in the title okay and 33 is a magic number okay this is ukraine shut down 33 000. Russian attack drones. Ukraine says it shot down more than 33,000 Russian drones in March. That's the most in a single month since Russia's invasion more than four years ago. Ukraine has been ramping up its drone capabilities in response to Russia's relentless aerial attacks and

increasingly taking the fight back across the border. Officials said today... Ukrainian forces can now strike much deeper inside Russia than they could at the start of the war. Earlier this month, Moscow accused European nations of expanding drone support to Kyiv, prompting a warning today from Russia's defense minister. This sort of action facilitates the sharp escalation of the military. and political situation across the entire European continent and

can have unpredictable consequences. Just yesterday, Poland's Prime Minister announced that his country will partner with Ukraine to manufacture what he described as a drone armada. Poland and Russia share a border and Russia has violated Polish airspace on a number of occasions since the Ukraine war started. ♪ The magic number Now, the clip I'm most interested in, just perusing your list, is the limited edition. Trump passport. Yeah,

you know about that, no? No, I don't, but I'm interested and I'll tell you why after I play your clip. The U.S. State Department- I'm going to guess why. Your passport's running out and you want to get one. Yes! The U.S. State Department is rolling out a new limited edition passport. forth, it includes a picture of President Trump. The State Department posted what it called a sneak peek on social media. It shows the president's image on the inside cover with his signature and gold lettering at

the bottom. The back cover shows a more traditional scene of the Declaration of Independence. The release is part of the commemorations marking the 250th anniversary. of American Independence. It's also the latest effort to put Mr. Trump's mark on the nation, which includes his images on government buildings, his name on what was the Kennedy Center, and a planned arch in Washington, among others. Yeah, this is an obvious

collectible. I feel the same way. I want to get one too because my past force expired oh my oh You should get on that right away. You can do that now. Well, no, you don't want to get on it right away because it hasn't been released yet. It's coming out in the summer. Oh, okay. And it's only going to be a limited edition, I believe, of 50,000. Oh! So you're going to have to get in right at the right moment. So I got a note from. State Department, they send out emails now and they say,

hey, you can renew online. This is crazy. You can make your own passport picture. And they show you how to do it? Yeah, I did that with my passport already years ago, decades ago. Do you remember decades ago? Do you remember? You used to have to go to a special photographer. He had to have special film, a special backdrop. It was all special, special, special, special dude, special shop. They had to wait, they had to develop it, you know, in a dark room. It used to

be very complicated. Now you can just take your own picture and submit it? This was years ago. The last two passports I've had, I took my own picture with a digital camera at the right, you know, against a blank wall, cut it out and submitted it. It went in the passport just fine. Well... This isn't new. When I renewed mine, which was... Seven years ago, for some reason I got a seven year passport, I don't know why. Maybe it was ten years, nine years ago. He

couldn't do it. That was not. I don't know how you got to do that, but there was no offer for me. to do that online with my own. I just did it. Just now you said, just, you just did it. You just. You just did it. You just, here's my favorite. Did you do it with your phone in the drawer with that one? No, I used a good quality camera. Oh, okay. I had a perfect background. It was exactly the same as you'd get. I had Jay or somebody take my picture two or three times

and took the best one, cut it. into the exact right size, blew it up to the right size, printed it out myself, and then cut it into a square and submitted it and went right through it. And this is, like I said, at least two passports ago. Well, I was unaware. Anyway, I want one of them, so I'll wait until it's released. I'll try and get in on that. Yeah, this is it. It's going to be a timing issue. A hot item. It's a hot item. I want that. But a lot of people, we don't

want it. I want it. I want it! That'd be hilarious. I want this gold coin. I want everything I can get. Because we're never going to see this again. You know, somebody back in 2020... sent me a box. Full of Trump collectibles. Oh, what'd you do? Phony dollar bills. Yeah, I got those. I got the Trump. And a bunch of coinage and stickers and all kinds of stuff. It's just a huge. And it was just so much stuff, I just packed it up and put it in the attic. It might be worth a fortune someday.

So listen to this. The last no agenda meetup. You know, which was here at J6 or Jenny's place and people were very kind and donating on the spot. And so we counted, you know, we count out the money and then we send you the check. And then, you know, we, cause we do that all officially. We don't want it to, you know, there's nothing. It's all above board. We pay our taxes. Yeah, we pay taxes. Too many taxes. And so, Tina, I'm usually like, just keep

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Yeah, the first one. The second one was good, too, John. I mean, you just don't like the first one the most. Okay, well. And I asked the guy, I said, are you using Suno? He said, yeah, I'm using Suno. So people are getting better at this prompting business. And that goes for Blue Acorn. who just had a good idea. And we have a good idea and you can implement that. It just works. It doesn't matter what

tools you use as far as I'm concerned. This was the... artwork for episode 1864 we titled that point cast A lot of people enjoyed us talking about the old computer days. About point-point- A lot of people. Yes, I got a lot of notes about it. 504, eh? Hey, they remember the good old days. No, it was young people who could not believe. We had a processor. technology with a North Star Drive. Wow. - A North Star Drive, now that's a blast from the past. Seagate, baby.

Seagate. Blue Acorn made us a beautiful piece of art. It was soft sector, not hard sector. Back when floppy disks were floppy. Actually floppy. This was the young ladies on the beach. spelling out 8008, a classic calculator joke. From the days of... Seagate floppy, Seagate drives and floppy disks. a boob donation number and nicely slipped in there little uh nick the rat on the beach little rat Little rat on the beach. Yeah. Which was nice. Yeah. So it was a good piece. We both liked it.

We looked at a couple other things. We look at noagendaartgenerator.com. That's where everybody could participate. Everybody can. upload their work. We use it in other things as well, not just the album art for the show, which is critical to us, but also for newsletters and for... blogger. Yeah, I saw that. So, uh... *laughs* No, CSV, just no. Talking about a blast from the past, next to the

seashells was the Flying Toasters. Yeah, to me, I liked the Flying Toaster one, but I thought that was good. I want to mention the Flying Toasters, the people that did the Flying Toasters, they were in Berkeley. Yeah. That's the company that became. Move. No! What? How did they go from flying toaster screensavers to moveon.org? They did. They just did. Wow. Hmm. Interesting. A little tidbit for the... That's a pivot. Yeah, no kidding. Honorary mention to Neswork,

Nesworks. It was a little discombobulated, but I like the fact that I think he did this art. you know, with old school tools. 86ing the M5M. kicking some seashells. It wasn't quite there. We liked it, but it just wasn't quite there. um Very disturbing what people or what the LLMs think you should look like with Baby and the Bypass, the new podcast for Spotify. Yeah, apparently bald. You're dead. You're basically dead. Even I didn't like that. um I still thought. The BB on the beach is

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do not. Don't get the argument. Yeah. I love listening to John, too. He's like the grandpa I never had. You're both amazing, and I always look forward to listening to you guys while running my own business. Cleaning pools. No, it says cleaning. He says cleaning pool. He does say cleaning pool, but I corrected his grammar. That's like driving truck. You clean pool. All right. Yeah, that's what he said, but I avoided it. It's good to hear

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sticks of wax to seal your important correspondence. Welcome to the roundtable, Red Knight Commodore Jason. No agenda! in California, as we heard earlier from our associate executive producer. And it's very easy to do because all you have to do is go to noagendameetups.com. You just start one and then you just let everybody know about it. And once it's on the calendar at noagendameetups.com, I'll mention it. We'll continue to promote it. You can do all kinds of

things. things to promote it and people will show up they usually do i'm a little disappointed um Christopher Wexelberger. He did the Leipzig, Germany meetup. He said it was a good meetup, but he didn't record a report. He sent a written report. Which is, I wanted to hear some... German voices, I wanted to hear your server. I will read his very short report. I call it a success. We were three dudes having a good time. even though neither hookers nor blow were involved. I would like

to thank Dirk and Thilo for stopping by. We decided to gather again in the near future, so keep an eye out. for the next Leipzig meetup announcement. Keep up the great work, says Christopher. Thank you very much. Appreciate that you did that. Next time, just get your phone out. Just record it. I'll cut it up. Don't worry about it. We have a meetup taking place today. It is, in fact, it is well underway. The TMI EVAC Zone Win, Lose, or Drone Meetup at Evergreen Brewing. Camp

Hill, Pennsylvania. So I hope to hear a meetup report from that. And coming up on the 8th of May, Buda, Texas, Leiden, the Netherlands. On the 9th, Eagle, Idaho, Santa Rosa, California, and Nashville, Tennessee. The 13th, Unionville in Ontario. Raleigh, North Carolina, the 14th. The 16th, we have Fort Wayne, Indiana, Coleyville, Texas, Los Banos, California. and Wilmington,

Delaware, along with Fort Wayne, Indiana, too, in Indiana. May 23rd, Los Angeles, California, another Leo Bravo meetup, I'm sure. Hickson, Tennessee, on the 23rd, and Franklin, Tennessee. And the 25th is Squim, Washington. Mimi will be attending, so bring your TooManyEggs.com books, and she will gladly sign them. for you. You should probably have some along with her for sale. You can buy them on the spot. These are

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Set up one yourself. It's easy and always guaranteed a party. *music* same John's tip of the day coming up along with three dynamite end of show mixes. You will love that. Before we do anything, though, we need to select our end of show ISO. We've kind of forgotten why we do it, but it is kind of fun because we get to select odd things that are short and we'll play at the very end of the show.

It's a three for three today. So I'll go first because you always think you have something better than me. I went to the well for this one. It's really incredible. Easy, obviously. We have this one. Props to them. And that's it! Oh, that's no good. That's no good. That's actually pretty good. Yeah. Okay, I got three. Let's start with crazy. These are crazy people. These are crazy people. It's alright. I could use it in a pinch. Amazing. Another great show. Amazing. I have to stop it

there because there's like seven seconds left, so. you didn't cut that one right we can use that one i'm fine with that another great show amazing she hasn't sound very amaze but okay no okay boobs if you like boobs donate to no agenda okay that's clearly the one and again there's like 16 seconds left you're what i tried i don't understand why i'm screwing this up you are screwing it up but you can make up for it with another dynamite tip of the day It's for

you and me Just the tip with JCB. and sometimes add Tip of the day ideas, just send them with the subject line, tip of the day, which is exactly what Commodore Sir Mech did. With this pretty good tip, I checked it out. It's a software product called Ventoy. It's one of the big, I've seen these things before and I've used them. Ventoy? This one here seems to be pretty damn good. Ventoy? How do you spell Ventoy? V-E-N-T-O-Y. Okay, Ventoy. And it's Ventoy.net. Right? Yeah. Venturi.net This

allows you to create bootable USBs. which can come in quite handy if you're on the road and you just take your whole system and make a bootable USB, stick it in someone's computer. And blow it up. Change the boot order and boom, you got your whole system. booting from the USB drive. It just works well. Huh. So

what's wrong with just taking your computer? What if you got a big giant desktop piece of, just a, I don't, you know, in my case, I could do that because I'm hauling around these nucks, these little bitty things, but no. You don't want to. Or you say you have a work office. You have a home office and an office computer, and it's a big clunker, and it's a company thing. It's not a laptop. Yeah, there's plenty of reasons that you want a bootable USB. Or we

say you got a secret system. You got a bunch of stuff you don't want people looking at. Well, I'll be honest. I always have a bootable USB of Omarchi Linux. I carry that with me just in case I need to set up a whole new show. Like a whole new show system. Yeah. But that would be pretty much really the end, the end of everything if I had to resort to that. That would be pretty bad. Yeah, well... Well, this is not... Anyway, it uses just

an ISO file. Create an ISO file, drop it on here, and it'll... works well all right check it out please everybody who's going to do that raise your hand without talking find them all at tip of the day.net noagendafun.com Just the tip with JCB And sometimes, Adam. Created by Dana Burnetti. I got more pleasure out of your... Bordeaux Blanche. I have another wine tip coming next show. Okay, good. And that concludes your broadcast day for today. Coming up next on the No Agenda stream, we have

our big dumb mouth, OBDM. And, oh, they're going to be talking about the Infowars shutdown. AI consciousness and Area 51 quakes. A second half of show if I've ever seen one. Ever seen one before. So that'll be next on the No Agenda stream. If you just keep listening to your modern podcast app, it will be the same. And end of show mix is from Just Baker, who is just kicking butt. with the Sunos, Chris Mattson, an MVP, of course, bringing you the latest in anything promptable.

I think they're pretty good. And we will be back on Thursday. I will be coming to you from Amsterdam, the Netherlands, looking forward to... Ooh, risky. Risky. Yeah, very risky. Coming to you from the airport hotel, the one that had their logo just catch on fire. Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country, Fredericksburg, Texas. In the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from Refinery Row, I'm John C. Dvorak. Remember us at noagendadonations.com,

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