1846 - "Thumbstick Flick"

Hey, today's redhead day. Adam Curry, John C. DeVora. It's Thursday, February 26, 2026. This is your award-winning give-all nation media assassination episode 1846. This is no agenda. Guilty until proven innocent. And broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas school country, here in FEMA region number six. In the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley, where we demand accountability. I'm John C. DeVorak. It's crackball and buzzkill. In the morning.

Yeah, you did it, man. You did it now. You did it now. What? You did it. Your entire Hoar Island thesis has thrown the show into a tailspin. Did you not receive any emails at all? Yeah, I got a couple. I mean, I got, uh, let's see. I'm just looking from my Twitter timeline today. Something simply isn't right about the show. What the hell is happening? Here's another one. It's truly sad. The show used to be a one-of -a-kind breakdown of the news cycle.

And just enough crackpot to keep it interesting and open. I personally believe that after journalist Jamie White was murdered, it was a cue to stop talking about certain subjects. This show sucks now. I did not get that one. Oh, this is public. This is just on my timeline. Oh, yeah. Oh, it's just something somebody's bitching. Okay. Oh, well, I mean, it's nonstop. It's all I can't even go to Twitter anymore. It's like people just hate me.

Yeah. Well, they should hate you for letting me talk like this. Yes, they hate me for something. Here's my favorite. Here's my favorite. What kind of Christian are you? There's a mountain of evidence in the P. Diddy and Epstein cases showing their deep involvement in satanic cults and sex magic rituals. Yet, for some reason, you keep trying to sell us on the idea they were merely rich guys having orgies. It really makes me question who you really pray to.

Why have you laughed at it like our government is not full of satanic creeps? Surely, you know the truth. So stuff like this, and then it's running away into podcasts. This is the coffee and a mic podcast. To separate whether I can talk to somebody and judge whether they know what's going on, or even if they're like controlled opposition is, does Israel control the United States or does the United States control Israel?

Because if you tell me the United States controls Israel, one, I either think you're ignorant, or two, I think you're working for them. One of the biggest podcasts in the world is No Agenda. And after what I've heard on that show over the last year, I'm trying to get people to run away from that Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak. I mean, just this past Sunday's episode, they were completely excusing. They're saying, oh, there were no underage girls with Epstein.

They're Epstein mentions it in the freaking day that I provide children. Michael Tracy, Michael Tracy has been out there denying the undeniable. And people are like, you know, why do they think that works? I'm baffled by that because it seems to me that conceding something would give you enhanced credibility, right? And there it is. Conceding into audience capture. Exactly.

Wouldn't it make sense that if we really were going for the gold that we just say, oh, yeah, yeah, this is this is what we believe when we clearly believe other things. And we've been controversial throughout almost. It's hardly controversial. Oh, it's extremely controversial to maniacs. You know, you have no idea this guy with his.

Oh, you know, I don't understand how it's even possible that anyone doesn't believe that Israel controls the United States because, hell, you know, there's a small little country in the middle of nowhere and they're telling us what to do. Won't they tell us to give him even more money? I don't see him us doing that. We're the biggest. We have a one trillion dollar defense budget. We're the biggest market in the world. And they're telling us what to do. And that makes sense to you. I think that.

Well, of course not. But that's the point. There is. No, not you. I'm talking. No, no, no, I know. But there's you out there. There's a complete lack of critical thinking. And it comes from this beautiful confluence of years of QAnon babies being shipped in wayfair containers. Remember that one? Everybody was all in on that one. Why could it cost $13,000 into Epstein, who everybody was convinced that he was blackmailing people, convinced, you know, throw in a little bit of Whitney Webb.

And by the way, she's having a big fight with Glenn Greenwald. If you saw that Glenn Greenwald, you know, you wrote stuff about me in 2013. That was utter bullcrap. So I can't trust you anymore. Whatever you write. Um, there's just it's like we've gone into conspiracy overdrive. And when the two sanest voices is Adam and John, you got to stop for a second. Think, hmm, I wonder why those guys are saying what they actually think. And now what everybody wants them to say.

So let's clarify at least one thing. This we never said that there's no underage girls involved. In fact, if you look at anything having to do with prostitution whatsoever, you find that it's dominated by underage girls. And there's report after report, which I actually did a printout of the United Nations and other groups have done this at the average typical underage girl involved in prostitution is a runaway. There's all kinds of issues with them, and they're 15, but average average 15.

So this is not what we're talking about. But let me read you this note from a one of our listeners, one of our producers, Chester. Hey, John, I appreciated your take on Epstein. I was at a dinner a few weeks ago with several people, including a former high end sex worker, you know, who explained her opinion on Jeffrey and the island, which was pretty much the same as yours. Nobody at the table seemed to scandalize, but they weren't agreeing either.

I think I said something noncommittal, like, oh, maybe. But the conversation stuck in my head. So I was receptive when I heard your rundown. In other words, he heard her first than me. Oh, okay. Interesting. So I made an audio clip of you expounding on the matter and sent it to her in an email. And she responded, quote. So we have a we have our she should be listening to the show. Yeah, I hope so. Send it. I am glad someone is speaking up about the matter in a sane fashion.

I think the Epstein spectacle is quite anti Semitic. Oh, hey, no. Turning one lone individual into a central figure in a conspiracy that involves money and finance, forcing every person who knows him to explain how he came to be tainted by this scapegoat who just happened to be Jewish. Give me a break. It's obvious.

And then she says it's an unhealthy blend of anti Semitic paranoia, Salem witch trial methods, sex phobia, plus women of a certain age hating the existence of young younger women in men's lives. Just perfect. Some of those mean spirited women claiming to be concerned about vulnerable younger ladies are older sex workers. End of quote. So no, I'm the more I thought about what you say. Yeah. First of all, yeah, the Epstein files are filled with all kinds of crazy stuff.

Anybody's email, if they ever get a hold of my email, the stuff I haven't nuked on my own server, people send me the craziest stuff. You know, you look at that like, oh, what's going on here? Do I think Epstein was creepy? Absolutely. Do I? Oh, yeah, sure. He was. You could take a look. It was creepy. People are creeps. And there are lots of people like that.

In fact, the Department of Justice and Sheriff's Office around the country continuously round up people like that gets almost no mention because it's not Trump or it's not billionaires, et cetera. So and this I have to agree with the president. This is a he's calls it a Democrat hoax. It's a Democrat strategy and they're using it quite effectively. So there is one case now that everybody's honing in on about this 13 year old.

And Anderson Cooper leads the charge, and then we'll talk about this and what the facts of the case are, not just what people are saying. We begin tonight, keeping them honest with the name that I'm honest was not last night

State of the Union message. Jeffrey Epstein. That and the name that we learned today has turned up in FBI records missing from the Epstein files. Donald Trump. We know this because a numbered evidence log in the Glenn Maxwell case catalogs about 325 FBI witness interviews. But of that number, more than 90 do not appear to be present on the Justice Department's website.

And three of those witness interviews are related to a woman who told agents that Jeffrey Epstein had repeatedly abused her starting when she was approximately 13 years old. She also accused Trump of sexually assaulting her. Now, we should point out here that the president has consistently denied any wrongdoing in connection with Jeffrey Epstein, and the White House is calling the allegations, quote, false and sensationalist. We have nothing to do with Epstein. The Democrats do.

I have nothing to do with Jeffrey Epstein. You just keep going on the Epstein files. And what the Epstein is is a Democrat hoax. The president, as you know, has been treating the files as the ultimate not guilty verdict. I have nothing to hide. I've been exonerated. I have nothing to do with Jeffrey Epstein. I've been totally exonerated. And I've been totally exonerated. I've been totally exonerated on Epstein. Well, you know, I'm the expert in a way because I've been totally exonerated.

But I'm the one that can talk about it because I've been totally exonerated. Well, keep it honest, that might be easier to say if the public had access to everything the federal government has on Epstein, Maxwell and the many powerful people they moved among. Then Citizen Trump included, who, again, says he did nothing wrong.

So now you've got to add one more thing to the Epstein conspiracy that involves all the billionaires, the elites and everybody that, of course, is not with high end escorts. No, no, no. It's all children and it's eating babies. And the biggest offender of this, and you almost I almost have to think she was doing it on purpose, is our AG Barbie. These latest allegations first arose in July of 2019, just days after Epstein's arrest on federal charges. A woman called an FBI tip line.

Agents interviewed her two weeks later, during which she told them Epstein had repeatedly abused her at a home he was staying at in South Carolina. The abuse started, she said, when she was about 13 years old. Now, according to the FBI interview record, a form known as a 302 when she showed agents a photo of Trump and Epstein that a friend had sent her.

Her attorney said that she was, quote, concerned about implicating additional individuals and specifically any that were well known due to a fear of retaliation. The Maxwell evidence log notes three additional 302 forms dated in August and October 2019 related to the same alleged victim, as well as three other sets of interview notes. Now, none of those appear to be present in the files released by the DOJ lawmakers.

Most sides of the aisle have now said the release files, which took an act of Congress to get released, are not all there is. And it's been more than a year since the attorney general said this on Fox News. Here we go. Tomorrow, Jesse, breaking news right now, you're going to see some Epstein information being released by my office. It's sitting on my desk right now to review. A truckload of evidence arrived. It's now in the possession of the FBI. It's a new day. It's a new administration.

And everything's going to come out to the public. So that, of course, was the dumbest thing she could have ever done. Either she is a complete idiot or she's working for the Democrats, as far as I'm concerned, because she at least should have known she had nothing. All the stuff she put in the binders was known for a long time. And a final clip here about the DOJ.

That said, for the most part, the files we've seen have been notable for the absence of names hidden behind redactions, which both Republican Thomas Massie and Democrat Ro Khanna both say conceal potential co-conspirators. And to the files we've seen, you can now add the ones that are missing.

Reading now from the Justice Department's statement on them, several individuals and news outlets have recently flagged files related to documents produced to Ghislaine Maxwell in discovery of her criminal case that they claim appear to be missing. As with all documents that have been flagged by the public, the department is currently reviewing files within that category of the production.

Should any document be found to have been improperly tagged in the review process and is responsive to the act, the department will, of course, publish it consistent with the law. So they continue to bumble along, putting things out, pulling them back, putting them back in, pulling them out. And the Democrats are loving this. As the Jeffrey Epstein scandal continues to dog the Trump administration, Democratic lawmakers say that the

U.S. Government is withholding evidence that could implicate the president in criminal activity. These are the files that the FBI has removed from their public Department of Justice database. The yellow files here are the files that President Trump is hiding. The yellow files here are investigations with a woman who was abused as a minor and who alleged that Donald Trump was her abuser. Dozens of FBI witness interviews appear to be missing from public records, according to U.S. media reports.

And numerous alleged victims say they cannot find their testimonies in the 3 million new documents released by the Department of Justice at the end of January. At the State of the Union on Tuesday, Democratic lawmakers wore pins demanding the release of the missing files and brought a dozen Epstein accusers as their guests. Where are the rest of the files? The truth must come out. Why are there no investigations when there are plenty of people in these files to investigate?

Since the files have been made public, there have been high profile arrests and investigations around the world into those named in the documents. But no such investigation has been opened in the United States. The White House has dismissed claims of Trump's involvement with Epstein's criminal sex ring as false and sensationalist. And the president did not mention the late sex offender in his speech.

In response to the allegations, the Department of Justice denied any wrongdoing, saying that any missing documents were either duplicates or part of an ongoing federal investigation. All right, so let's talk about the 13 year old for a second, because what we're missing here is these so-called victims and how old they were and what they were a victim of.

And let's also mention the fact that we're dealing with a use of language, which the Democrats are quite good or the left in general is good at and changing a customer of a prostitute to an abuse, changing the name of a john to an abuser and changing the name of a sex worker to a victim. Yes. Let's talk about they say victim, victim, victim of these. Now, the question that never that never seems to be brought up. Does anyone ever ask any of the women who are or that have been.

Kind of sequestered to to complain about this a lot. Have you paid any money for this process of abuse? And how old were you and how old were you at the time? And were you paid any money? I honestly, I don't want to sound callous, but I almost believe that these women found out what was being charged by the by the system, by the hope, by the what I call a whorehouse and what they were getting. And they felt gypped. Well, the timing of them coming out is always interesting.

But I want to go to the 13 year old because this is not a case that is unknown to the show. Even often referred to as the Katie Johnson lawsuit or Jane Doe. Was filed in 2016, alleging incidents that took place in the summer of 1994 at Epstein's Manhattan pad. The victim, a 13 year old girl using the pseudonym Jane Doe slash Katie Johnson, claimed she was recruited under the guise of a modeling career. She alleged she was sexually abused by both Epstein and Trump on multiple occasions.

Most notably, she claimed that during a fourth encounter, Trump tied her to a bed and forcibly raped her while she pleaded for him to stop. And this lawsuit included a sworn statement from a Tiffany Doe, so a pseudonym who claimed to be a party planner for Epstein and said she had personally witnessed the abuse. And the plaintiff said that Trump Trump had threatened to have her and her family killed if she ever spoke out.

Citing a 12 year old girl named Maria who had supposedly disappeared after similar instances. So this suit was first filed in California in 2016, dismissed by a California judge, refiled in 2016 in New York. October 2016, there was a press conference scheduled, I remember this, by her then attorney Lisa Bloom. Remember the Lisa Bloom, the famous? Yes, the famous Lisa Bloom. This is when the plaintiff was going public, but the press conference was canceled very last minute.

She stated her client was living in fear due to death threats. Then November 4th, days before the presidential election, the lawsuit was voluntarily dismissed by the plaintiff's legal team without any public explanation. So there was no evidence. The lawsuit was withdrawn. But here's the fun part. Norm Lebeau, does that name ring any bells for you? No, he was a TV producer, crack smoking TV producer who did sensationalist stories about celebrities. He worked for the Jerry Springer show.

He's the guy that started all of this. He he's the one that started publishing articles. He's the one he is behind a lot of these things. You know that Kurt Cobain was killed by his wife and this kind of stuff. So a lawsuit that was put in withdrawn right before the elections. The whole thing is very, very flimsy at best. So, you know, OK, show me something, show me something that's real, not some email that says I got a torture video. We already discussed that. Have you looked at Pornhub?

So, yes, Jeffrey Epstein was a creep. All my personal opinion, any but any older guy who wants to have sex with a 16, 17, 18 year old, probably legal in the states that were doing it or on an island, you know, they got a lot of problems. But if it was for money, well, there's other discussions that need to be had. But the whole thing is being manipulated and turned into a strategy for the Democrat Party. Yeah, it's a total. This is the this is the Russian hoax.

This is the Russian hoax of the second administration. Russian hoax is over. They can't talk about it anymore. I'm still lingering effects of it. People still believe it. And this is the new one. And this came up. This is the Trump screws little kids. And yes, he's a rapist. But it's a hoax. I think it's going even further. And it's really interesting. And and I see people all over the political spectrum falling for this. I think many of our own listeners or maybe formalists.

Obviously, some of our own listeners fall for it. And and the idea here is all billionaires. Anybody who is power is a billionaire is successful. They're all in cahoots with Trump. And they're going to get it seriously. And and you need to this. These people are the problem. They're the Silicon Valley guys. If you're Silicon Valley and you're Jewish, you got two strikes against you. Zuckerberg, Teal, all these guys. And they're all in cahoots with Trump and Trump is protecting them.

And this was completely laid out by none other than the twerp. Condoleezza Rice, Condi. Well, she's not the twerp. Susan Rice is the twerp. Oh, I'm sorry. Well, she's a twerp, too. Condoleezza Rice, who wrote herself an email to be able to say later, yeah, no, all that. No, no, no. That's not Condoleezza Rice. Was that Susan Rice? That's Susan Rice. Well, Condoleezza Rice is the old. She worked in the Bush administration. Oh, she teaches at Stanford. Well, she's a problem. What did she do?

Listen, listen to what she said on this podcast with Preet Bharara. And she's teeing it up. She's teeing it up for the Democrat Party. Has the first year approximated what you expected? Has it been less bad than you expected or worse? Well, I expected it to be very bad. Susan Rice, not Condoleezza Rice. Isn't this Condi? I think this is Condoleezza Rice. No, this is Susan Rice. Condoleezza Rice isn't even in this story. I thought this was. It's a Rice lady. This is the twerp. This is the twerp.

I knew it. I just had the name wrong. This is Susan Rice then. Are you sure it's not Condoleezza Rice? Condoleezza Rice is a tall woman with a big square head. Who talks like a patrician. I'm pretty sure this is Condoleezza Rice. Yes, I clipped it myself. Did you visually see the person? Yes. Well, she was sitting down so I couldn't tell if she was tiny or not. Yes, this is Condoleezza Rice. No, it's not Condoleezza Rice.

I hate the fact that I have to contradict you on this because Condoleezza Rice is not involved in any of this and it's ruining your point. Well, let me go look at my history. I'm 99% certain this is Condoleezza Rice talking and she may ruin my... Here she is. This is Susan Rice. You're right. Okay. Thank you for catching that. Thank you for saving me. It's Susan Rice. So, is my point valid again now?

Well, the problem is that when you misstep, when you're making a good argument... A good argument and then I ruin it by... And then you misstep by bringing in somebody who's got nothing to do with anything because of a mistake and the names being similar. I didn't even think about that. So, here's what we'll do. Here's what we'll do. We'll cut all that out of the show. You're not cutting it. No one will ever know. Susan Rice, who... I had this clip in the last show. She is a drip.

Well, I have four clips because it was super interesting all the things she actually said. I was like, holy moly. She's part of the scheme. And she's the one that wrote the email, correct? To herself? Yeah, she's the one who wrote the cover your ass email at the end of her term. Yes, exactly. Yeah, that's Susan Rice. Susan Rice. Okay. Condoleezza Rice was out of the business 10 years earlier. Condoleezza Rice is dead to me. She's dead to me, doesn't exist.

Susan Rice. Susan Rice, teeing it up for the Democrat Party. Has the first year approximated what you expected? Has it been less bad than you expected or worse? Well, I expected it to be very bad. And I guess I would confess that it's probably worse than I anticipated. But not because they're doing things that surprised me. They told us exactly what they were going to do.

Yeah. You know, we recall Trump saying multiple times on the campaign trail, if you vote for me that this one time you'll never have to vote again. Or his, you know, pledge to use the American military against the, quote, enemy within. You know, you had Stephen Miller foreshadowing not only the use of the Insurrection Act, but potentially the suspension of habeas corpus and the imposition of martial law. All of these are, you know, they tell you, interestingly, where they intend to head.

But what surprised me is the speed and the efficacy of their efforts to do what they set out to do. And the fact that they have faced very little resistance from members of their own party, from the private sector, from civil society leaders and university heads and law firms and all of the, you know, the pillars of society media that have, you know, rolled over and played dead or hidden under rocks. Yeah, I love this. So she sets it up by saying Project 2025. We all knew it.

They've held to it entirely, completely to it. And they're going to get theirs. Do you think that after a year of this? No, wait, I could misclip this somehow, probably. Whether you're university, whether you're. Oh, sorry about that. Play a long game, not this short game that has been so detrimental.

So very specifically, if the House changes hands in a few months, what should be the top priority or two in terms of that accountability that you're speaking of for Democratic leadership in the House?

Well, first of all, when the Democrats win the House, which I believe they will, possibly the Senate, you know, they need to appropriately focus on the needs of the American people, which Donald Trump and the Republicans could give a damn about whether it's health care, housing costs, food prices, electricity prices, runaway tech companies that are, you know, lining their own pockets at the expense of our children, our jobs, our interests, maybe even our very existential future.

Existential future? There's a lot of stuff that we need to do in service of the American people. But in addition to that, there will be an accountability agenda. You know, companies already are starting to hear they better preserve their documents. They better be ready for subpoenas. If they've done something wrong, they'll be held accountable. And if they haven't broken the law, good for them. If they've done the right things, good for them. That also will be noted and remembered.

But, you know, this is not going to be an instance of, you know, forgive and forget. The damage that these people are doing is too severe to the American people and to our national interest. She's threatening everybody, but she's really confirming to the Democrat party and the people who vote Democrat, but also to anybody who is whipped up into this Epstein thing. You've got to hate these people. You've got to hate billionaires.

You've got to hate tech companies, which is so inherently un-American. You know, I grew up like, hey, you see that guy with the Rolls Royce? Yeah, you could be that guy. This is America. But now everybody who's successful, everybody who's doing anything with Trump, anybody who's been helping him out, we're going to get you. We're going to get you and everybody will hate you. And this is like I said, I had this clip. This was the thing about that little ditty at the end about the corporations.

I think it has to do, which follows into some clips I have about the DC sewage problem. It's pretty smelly out here in the most beautiful city in America. It is that that is that is aimed at the pulling. I believe it's aimed at the pulling of all the DEI stuff. The corporations are noticing and ESG, all the corporations noticing that, you know, even Larry Fink of BlackRock, who promoted the idea of ESG in particular.

But it was like it's losing money for these companies because you're putting incompetent people into positions where they need where there has to be some there has to be some knowledge base. You have to you have to you can't just take anybody off the street and make him a CEO.

You can't take anybody off the street and make them into some, you know, running some department that they have no clue about what it is or what it does or what how it works, as opposed to what the Democrats are trying to do, which is exactly that, which, of course, undermines the entire economic system that we have a capitalism because they're anti-capitalist. And a lot of them will say it. Yes, they come out. And many of them would just say, yeah, well, yeah, I am a communist.

It's the way to go. It just hasn't never worked out so far because it hasn't been done right. That commentary, which never seems to end, never will. Someone also sent me a link today. It was a short essay about Americans confidence in government from 1958 to today. And in 1958, it was somewhere in the low 70s. And today it's 17 percent. Yeah, which is yeah. And the point is that when it gets this low, this is when interesting things take place. You know, you get the overthrow of the emperor.

You get all kinds of things happening. And I think MAGA came in the first time at the right moment. But I don't know if if if Trump has the winning edge on this now, because I just see too many people severely negative. All trust, trust is lost in all institutions. Covid had a big, although actually confidence went up for a little bit during Covid across the board, but now it's completely now people are dying, you know, blood clots everywhere. People have lost all confidence.

And so there could be a completely different person who comes along and says, hey, I can motivate all these people. I think it's an interesting situation for the United States. Yeah, I agree. So let's move from that unless you want to finish. No, no, no, that's no, I mean, I just want to make your point. Yeah. But the only point I want to make towards people who are mad at us, it's like we're doing this because that's all we do.

We tell you the truth as we see it, not because we're paid, not because we're Christian Zionists, not because we're controlled or blackmailed by Mossad or CIA, and unfortunately not because anybody's paying us to do this. So get a grip. I found that character in that one podcast that condemned us to be pathetic. Well, of course. But anyway, so the thesis has not changed about the whorehouse, and I'm still going through photos. This is quite, quite interesting.

So one of the things I'm going to do, I'm going to start posting either on my Twitter account, The Real Dvorak, or I'd probably put him in the newsletter. Occasionally you run into some screwball photo. I ran into one the other day, but I started, I had to... Hold on, hold on, hold on a second, hold on a second. Somebody tell me you're recording the stream, please. Let me know that you're recording the stream. You didn't push the red button. I have a feeling I may not have pushed the red button.

Someone's always recording the stream. So as long as you're recording the stream, I'm happy. Is somebody recording the stream? We're going to pray someone's recording the stream. Otherwise, this will be a very strange podcast. Oh, yeah, Darren O has it. Darren, you're the man. All right, so I knew he'd have it. All right, continue. We're good. Darren must have a great archive. Darren is phenomenal, man. Without Darren, we'd be bust. So where was I? I was talking about something.

I can't roll it back to find out what you were saying. Sorry, I can't. I just can't. You come back to me, but you... I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. You were talking about the character on the podcast. You thought he was pathetic. Yeah, yeah. And about not getting paid by Mossad. Yeah, we don't get paid by Mossad. I don't know why they should send us money anyway, just because we do a good job of analysis. So I wanted to switch gears and move to...

Because I thought Susan Rice's commentary, which was about, I think was about DEI, brings us to the sewage thing. And our national treasure, NPR did a thing on it. It's not clear what caused the Potomac sewage spill. The pipe is from the 1960s. In an open letter, the head of the utility that manages the line, DC Water, echoed the risks that scientists like McGuire describe. Old infrastructure, population growth, and climate change.

The utility has said it found signs of corrosion during an inspection about a decade ago. McGuire says the section that broke was slated for repair. So hopefully this is a little bit of a kick in the pants for everyone. Because she says the risks around the country are growing. We already have a chronic sort of slow bleed. But if we have a chronic explosion problem, that's going to be much more impactful than what we already have.

President Trump has tried to blame local Democratic leaders for the accident. However, DC Water is under federal oversight. The Environmental Protection Agency said it's committed to fulfilling its oversight role and to helping make sure the recovery happens as quickly as possible. The ultimate authority that really needs to be aggressive in addressing this is the Environmental Protection Agency. That's Mike Jarrell, another scientist at the Chesapeake Bay Foundation.

He says the EPA also has to be the one leading programs to upgrade old sewer lines, like the one that broke in Maryland. Michael Copley, NPR News. Okay. So, okay. Yeah, now somehow we got to blame the EPA for this local issue. So let's listen to the Wendy Bell Show, the female right-winger that does it. Is this a podcast? No, no. She's a radio person. I talked about her in the last show. Oh, yeah, yeah. She does the stuff on Rumble in between. Yeah. And she is, this is from her show.

This is your new go-to. It's your new savage. You got a lady now. This is your savage. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. She, this is not an in-between thing. This is on her show. This shows out of Philadelphia and she discusses the same situation. This is, I have this one, 1.2, 1.3. So we start with one and it's a little different take on what's going on.

Well, if you need a reason to blow up DEI and put it away for good forever, it's this Potomac nightmare of raw waste that's still pumping into the Potomac River after a month. It's absolutely mind bending. So The Daily Caller did this great story and I want to read it to you. And that's all we're going to talk about in this segment. It's that egregious. DC Water, that's the name of the big utility, right? They have a CEO, new guy.

Well, wouldn't you know during Joe Biden's tenure, he waved a magic wand and he put some black guy in charge of it, which is fine. You would hope the black guy came from some kind of a utility background. We're going to talk about that in a minute. DC Water's CEO, that guy, oversaw $520 million in DEI contract. And coincidentally, the biggest sewage spill in US history. Like, oh my, let's chew a little bit and see what the priorities of this utility were. Shall we?

While hundreds of millions of gallons of raw sewage accumulated in its pipes, the District of Columbia Water and Sewer Authority was focused on diversity, equity, and other left wing priorities. Setting the stage for what may be the largest sewage spill in American history. DC Water CEO, David Gaddis, as his name, David Gaddis. He's championed equity and diversity throughout his tenure.

Who was also named in a lawsuit against his former employer for allegedly withholding information about water contamination in Flint, Michigan. Let's dig a little bit deeper into this guy. Before joining DC Water in 2018, Gaddis served as Executive Vice President of Veolia North America and CEO of Veolia Water Indianapolis. It's the utility's first black CEO and the first black executive to lead a major Indianapolis utility, according to his bio. Woo-hoo! All right. Well, we have this guy.

She could have done that in 30 seconds, but I guess it's a radio show. You have any idea how much I took out? I believe you. Yeah, because you've read. I know. That's why I don't usually take from these radio hosts, because they, in fact, it's even a problem with Jesse Waters on TV. They keep putting in interstitials. They can't stop with the asides. So here we go at part two.

Before Gaddis arrived, DC Water was considered a global role model, commanding one of the highest reputations in the water sector. Gaddis sought to take the authority to the next level by prioritizing equity for employees, customers, communities, and contractors. How about, I don't know, I'm just spitballing. How about clean water? Is that too much to ask for, just water, clean water that doesn't make my hair fall out? He wanted to prioritize equity. And so what did he do?

He started giving away money. How much money? Well, in fiscal year 2024, disadvantaged and women -owned enterprises received about $520 million of business diversity and inclusion grants. They didn't need to prove that they knew how to- Did you say business and diversity inclusion grants? But she said, okay. Do anything. They just needed to prove that they were diverse. That maybe they had some ovaries. Maybe they had some melanin. And it was like, yes, here's your money.

And yes, here's $520 million dollars. Well, the EPA had to move in, in April after Trump moved in, right? And suspend some of these awards and grants, no-bid awards to people who, by the way, were proven to not fulfill their contract obligations. They wouldn't be held accountable. There was no liability. Like you can't make it up. And now what do you see? You see this mountain of human waste.

Okay. So why is the president not railing on this and getting rid of this guy and changing things right away? This is what he usually does so well. There's a black guy, first of his kind. It's just, and they got this Epstein thing being charred, you know, being used as the hoax of the month. I don't know. Here's the little kicker. This kind of proves her point because she brings this guy on. I have one last clip after that where he's introduced by a woman on another show. He does a lot of media.

And here's this part. You know, when I arrived at D.C. Water, this was... This is your last clip, by the way. I don't know what you're... No, that's another clip. You know, when I arrived... This is a pretty important topic. Eight clips. You know, when I arrived at D.C. Water, this was an organization that looked very similar to our industry. It was predominantly, you know, white male at the top. But this is a utility that's, you know, more than 70% people of color. Yeah, there you go.

That's my reason for being here. This utility. And I really believe, and I still believe, and it has been fantastic. The outcomes have been fantastic. But the people at the top, the executives, the chiefs in that C-suite, they should look like the employees that they serve and that they work with. And the same thing with the community. And so my executive team, you know, looks exactly... Hold on, stop it a second. If you're the CEO, you're not serving the employees, you're serving the public.

Can I just add, what is the point of this? Of what? Of the series. Is it coming to a conclusion? Yeah, the point is, is that you have this situation where DEI is what Susan Rice was talking about that she wants to re -implement. Okay. And this is an example where it's headed, which is sewage disasters, by getting rid of Whitey at the top, because the Whitey at the top doesn't... Okay, is that enough? Yeah, thank you. That helps. That helps. Yes, you're right. The employees.

Doesn't mean all black people don't know how to run a sewage plant. But when it comes to DEI and people like Susan Rice, yeah, this is what you get. That they serve and that they work with. And the same thing with the community. And so my executive team looks exactly like the community. It looks like the employees, the staff, be it people of color, women, men. And it's just a fantastic team that has come together to do a lot of great things here at DC Water and in the community for the customer.

Right. Well, it's tough for that guy. Yeah, and you take people that know what they're doing and you get them out of there so you can put some of your buddies in. And next thing you know, the whole thing falls apart and no one knows how to fix it. It's been going on for a month. And this is an example, this last clip, which I'm sorry there's so many clips, but I tried to keep them short. But this is the Gaddis intro on some show where this woman introduces him.

And you can see what all the priorities are. And she got named on some board that this guy put together. And he's so proud of himself for being a DEI guy. And this is what the Democrats are going to reintroduce when they get back in is this DEI bull crap, which is not doing the public any good. It's costing more money than it's worth. And connecting them to a well-established, competitively viable minority-owned firms.

Today, in this special 50th anniversary episode, we celebrate and pay tribute to an innovative and businessman, innovative leader, rather, and businessman, Mr. David Gaddis. But before we start the conversation with him, let me just tell you a little bit about him. This is not his first induction to the Hall of Fame, as I understand it. He is, however, the CEO and general manager of DC Water.

In this role, he oversees all authority, including a $1 billion annual budget, a workforce of 1,100 employees, and the largest advanced wastewater treatment plant in the world. I'd like to hear about that. Under his leadership, DC Water has emerged as a leader within the water sector on environmental justice and water equity programs, such as the Lead-Free DC program, which is eliminating all lead service lines within the district by 2030.

Mr. Gaddis has extended economic equity to the community through changes to the authority business development plan, which has improved access to contract opportunities for small and disadvantaged businesses, an apprenticeship program that offers classroom and on-the-job training, as well as the establishment of the authority's first-ever Business Diversity Advisory Council, of which I'm very proud.

He also serves as chairman of the board of Blue Drop, DC Water's non-profit sales and marketing affiliate, and is a frequent presenter at Utility and Government Services conferences and with the National League of Cities and the National Association of Public-Private Partnerships. And before I bring him on, you should know that prior to his service at DC Water, he led Viola Water, Indianapolis, CEO and president of Viola Water, Indianapolis.

He was the first African-American CEO president and the first African-American CEO to lead a major utility in Indianapolis, Indiana. So please help me welcome Mr. David Gattis. Good day, sir. Why didn't you say Comrade Gattis? That would have been... Might as well have. Thank you so much. So you have to tell us about your induction into the Hall of Fame in basketball, University of Indianapolis. Okay, he gets to kill it now.

They just talk about basketball for 10 minutes, kind of a stereotypical manner. But this guy's not mentioned in the NPR report, which this glossed it over and blamed climate change. I mean, how much of this could we take? We have lost all faith in our institutions and our water plants, our poop plants. You're right. Epstein or not, the president needs to step in here. I see it as an opportunity. You got to cut this stuff off.

There's a lot to say that this guy did no good along the same lines of DEI, because I think it's part of the same problem is the fraud in Minnesota. It's just more of the same problem. Oh, the Somalis, yeah. Oh, yeah, let's set them up with... They can do centers for kids and leering center. Vice President Vance made his stand of what they're doing with, what's his name, Batya. Is that the guy who's running the CDC now? I think it is. Yeah, I think it is. I think you're right.

Here's his little statement, which is, nothing gets the news these days. Nothing is in the timeline because Epstein. We're announcing today that we have decided to temporarily halt certain amounts of Medicaid funding that are going to the state of Minnesota in order to ensure that the state of Minnesota takes its obligations seriously to be good stewards of the American people's taxes. Now, what is this going to mean?

What this means is that, first of all, the providers on the ground in Minnesota have actually already been paid. The state has paid those providers the money. What we're doing is we are stopping the federal payments that will go to the state government until the state government takes its obligations seriously to stop the fraud that's being perpetrated against the American taxpayer. There are a few different ways that we're doing that.

There are a few different affirmative actions that we're taking today. Dr. Oz is going to talk about those, but let me talk a little bit about the spirit of this and why we're doing it.

So number one, one of the examples of fraud that we've seen in Minnesota that we verify that is just awful is that a program that existed to ensure that autistic children had access to some afterschool services has made a number of people rich, not by providing services to needy children, but by allowing fraudsters to take money that ought by right go to American citizens and to American families and to set up sham businesses, set up sham clients, set up people who are not even

autistic, but claim to be autistic in order that they benefit from the money that's out there. Now, what does that mean? Number one, it means that a lot of people are getting rich off the generosity of American taxpayers, but more fundamentally and more importantly than that, it means that there are kids in Minnesota who deserve these services, who need these services, and they're not going to those kids. They're going to fraudsters in Minneapolis. That is unacceptable.

And that's the sort of thing that we're cutting off with this action today. And I tell you, it's not just Minneapolis. Medicare was a boondoggle. There's another report. I didn't clip it. In Austin, company pulled in tens of millions of dollars. They think it may be up to hundreds of millions of dollars billing Medicare for stuff that people never got. I mean, yeah, yeah, that's obvious. It's yeah, it's unbelievable. It's all fraud.

Yeah, he's all these medical systems that, you know, they used to have private doctors and they used to have their own offices and the rest. And now it's all become some sort of system. Systematically, they got phone tests that you don't need. When you go now, they got all these things. We'll come back. You know, oh, you got to do this. You got to do that. You're pretty cancerous. We need to run some tests on you. Yeah, and then this was this was a fun fraud in Los Angeles.

Involving the superintendent of the Los Angeles School District. Tonight, LA USD Superintendent Alberto Carvalho is the subject of an FBI investigation. Federal agents, some in tactical gear, seen entering Carvalho San Pedro home Wednesday morning to execute a search warrant. Agents also searching Carvalho's office at district headquarters in downtown LA. The FBI is not detailing the nature of the investigation, but confirms the warrants were served.

The LA Times, citing confidential law enforcement sources, reports the probe is focused on Carvalho, not LA USD, and may involve financial crimes. According to the Times, the investigation involves a former artificial intelligence company called Alhear that developed a chat bot known as Ed for LA USD. Alhear collapsed in 2024 amid allegations of massive financial fraud involving its founder and CEO, Joanna Smith Griffin, who was arrested the same year.

In a previous interview, she promoted the company's use of AI in education. My name is Joanna Smith. I'm the CEO of Alhear, and we help schools to curb chronic absenteeism using chat bots powered by AI. Carvalho promoted the AI tool in 2024, but after Smith Griffin's indictment and arrest, the district declined to use the technology. Hey man, if I get another email from a teacher or an educator who says, oh man, once the Chromebooks came in, everything went to hell in a handbasket.

The kids figured out immediately how to bypass everything, how to get to the web, to get to porn, get all the AI for all of their test scores. I mean, what a, and it's all about money. There were big payouts, schools getting all kinds of cash. Oh, just take it. I mean, Apple started, and I think they were probably, they did that out of the goodness of their hearts. Like, hey, we need to get these kids some computers. And then they realized, like, we're not really getting anything out of this.

They stopped that program at a certain point. It's like, yeah, we're not going to do that. And then, yeah, Apple, Apple was the leader. Yeah. And then they just disappeared from the scene. It was the same time when they were given, remember, they were lending out apples. They would send you one. I got one. They sent me an Apple 2. My first Apple 2. Yeah, my first computer was an Apple 2. A guy named Daniel Paul worked at Apple. He's still out there. I don't think he's at Apple anymore.

And then he sent me, he says, oh, no, I was at MTV. Oh, you got to have a computer. It's good. And, you know, we want you to try it out. And the interesting thing is several years later, I mean, I was into my first, what was it? The 540C. Wasn't that one of the. I don't remember the model numbers. There's a bunch of LCs and other ones. Well, no, this is the laptop. They had the laptop and it was a color laptop. Oh, man. And if you had five pixels. Was that the big giant thing?

No, it wasn't that big. Wasn't that big. But no, that came in between with a trackball built in. I forget what that was called. But then they had. I have one of those, the giant thing. With the trackball. It's got to be a collectible. I'm sure it is, if you can find it. Well, I think it was the 540C and it was a laptop. It had the OS7, I'm going to say. And I remember it so well because I had five pixels, five color pixels weren't working.

And Apple refused to take anything back unless it was more than five pixels. So they sold me a defective product and they were expensive at the time. They were $4,000, maybe $3,000, $4 ,000. Oh, no, no, that's expected. A couple of pixels out. That's just that's normal. So the tough, tough luck, Mr. Vijay. But Daniel Paul at that time said, hey, you have to send us the Apple II back. And I actually had to send it back. Why? That was their policy. We lent it to you and now we want it back.

I know. Why is the right question? And I, of course, went, OK, I'll give it back to you. You could have just said, yeah, OK, sure. And then generally speaking, these guys are so poor at record keeping. Yeah. That you say, I don't want to say that. I know this from experience, but being in that business forever. OK, it's on its way. Got lost in the mail. Somebody checks the box and that's the end of it. And my how things are now between government and technology companies.

This latest spat between the and I think it's something else, actually, between the Department of War and Anthropic is interesting to follow. The CEO of artificial intelligence company Anthropic. We need to work together between companies and the government to better manage that time of disruption and bring better prosperity smoothly to all. Dario Amodei's company has been working with the American government. It was the only large language model being used in classified U.S. networks.

That relationship is now at risk. Reuters reporting that U.S. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth told Amodei in a meeting Tuesday, Anthropic must ease restrictions on how the military can use its AI. Anthropic is refusing to let its systems be used for autonomous weapon targeting or to conduct U.S. domestic surveillance.

Hegseth is threatening to label the company as a supply chain risk, effectively banning it from working with the government or invoking the Defense Production Act to force Anthropic to give in. Hegseth argues U.S. law is sufficient. I fully support that strike. I would have made the same call. The U.S. government attacked several boats it claims were carrying drugs, striking twice in one attack. Democrats have called the strikes illegal.

A researcher says current laws governing war aren't sufficient for technology that identifies targets, even attacks them without human oversight. And these sort of norms that were created, you know, decades, something like 50 years ago, you know, did not anticipate the type of technology that we have now. Branka Marion says AI finding, selecting, and engaging targets clouds responsibility. So the conversation is too important to be private.

Reuters reports a Pentagon source says Anthropic has until 5 p.m. Friday Eastern time to respond to Hegseth's requests. So Anthropic is throwing it, as far as I can tell, on this, well, you know, we are a company with a soul and we don't want our work to be used. We don't want our work to be used for, you know, killing people. I think they're lying.

The hallucination, the minute you hook up a large language model to some tools, and I have some hands-on experience, I've been building something very simple, you know, manage an online radio station with just prompts. And if the AI can't, it will lie continuously. It'll say, oh, yeah, I did that. I said, did you delete that file? Yeah, no, I deleted that. Are you sure? Yeah, look, I deleted it. Show me the list. And it shows you the list of files in there. It says it's still there.

Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, let me go delete that. And then it comes back. So see, it's gone. And I can look at the file system. It's still there. These things, there is no control over this. And I've tried it. The best is, the best is, That's a great story. The best is XAI. That thing is meant to just engage you in bullcrap. I mean, the way that was trained, and of course, I could have known, you know, something has been trained on Twitter data.

Yeah, how good is that going to be in a production environment? Claude, you know, sometimes it says, oh, this is literally a prompt that came back. I can't connect to my brain right now. Okay. You know, Gemini, they all do it. They all, no one has fixed the hallucination yet. And it's kind of funny when you're using a chat bot, and it's okay, you know, for entertainment purposes. But it's very entertaining. But in a real world production environment, it is unreliable. And they know it.

I think they all know it. Like, well, we don't want to get... That may be, so what you're implying is that the reason Anthropic is so reluctant to let them go ahead with this stupid idea is because they know it's going to be a disaster, and it's going to reflect poorly on them. Yes. And, you know, and they have OpenAI as an example.

Canadian officials have questioned leaders from OpenAI about the company's safety protocols following one of the country's worst ever school shootings earlier this month. After the shooting, it was revealed that OpenAI had banned the ChatGPT account of the suspected shooter, but did not tell police. Reporter Ryan Patrick-Jones says the case raises the question of just what tech companies are obliged or required to report.

OpenAI says it banned Jesse van Rootselaar's account on its chatbot, ChatGPT, eight months before the shooting for violations of its safety policies. The company didn't exactly say what she did, only that its automated systems flagged her account for possible misuse of its models, quote, in furtherance of violent activities.

OpenAI says it considered whether to alert police at the time, but decided that the activity didn't quite meet its threshold of posing an imminent and credible risk of serious harm. They say they didn't identify any concrete or immediate planning. So the company says it kind of had to balance whether to report to police with the importance of user privacy and the risk of over-enforcing and potentially causing unintended harm.

Now, after the shooting, OpenAI did contact the Royal Canadian Mounted Police and shared information on van Rootselaar's past use of ChatGPT, and they say they are continuing to assist investigators. In a statement after the meeting, OpenAI said it has taken steps to strengthen safeguards and has made changes to law enforcement referral protocols for cases involving violent activities. These companies are going to get blamed for everything. Everything. And probably rightly so.

We got a note from one of our producers, Gen Z. I've noticed a writing style of AI chatbots that I wanted to mention. Perhaps you've noticed it too, but now that I notice it, I see it everywhere, especially all over X. It goes like this. Blank is not just blank. They're a blank describing them. Further expands with some BS to drive their point home. For example, it goes like this. Adam and John are not just podcasters. They are media deconstructors.

Adam and John speak truth to power by breaking down the mainstream media's talking points and beating them at their own game. And once I realized what he was telling us here, this format, I see it everywhere now too. He says he sees on LinkedIn, work emails. Of course, there has to be tons of bots on X. What's the model again? That's XAI, I would say. No, the model is blank, blank, blank. Okay, so blank is not just a blank. They're a blank describing them. Okay. It's similar to diving.

So they iterate. So John is basically a trick for padding. It's a padding trick. Completely. And it's just iteration, three X iteration minimum. Yeah. I can see that. So I'm sorry, he's a millennial. So another thing related to this, I'm a millennial and my barbershop is largely millennial barbers and customers. More than once, I've seen a post on X the day or so before.

I heard a person in the barbershop recite this X post word for word as if it was their own thought to make themselves sound profound or well-informed. I think that's been happening for a long time. Well, you know, Erica Kirk is creepy. Where'd you hear that? I didn't, I just, I deduced that. I didn't hear it from Candace Owens. Yeah, it could be. Yeah. And then the big news that we can wrap up some AI stuff here. And gosh, this could have been so our exit strategy.

I can't believe we didn't think of it. Claude does COBOL. What a great idea. Of course it does. Of course it can program COBOL. Yeah, the IBM stock tank like 13% in one go because of all their mainframes running everything. We discussed this on DHM. Oh, you did? And what did you say? What you're talking about now is like obvious that IBM is under threat because it's their services business. And once Claude does Red Hat, what happens next?

Because their whole business is basically, you know, service now. They don't do anything else. When it comes to troubleshooting Linux, I mean, I've seen it happen. It always winds up with the chat bot telling you you have to recompile your kernel. So I'm not too worried about it yet. Dudes named Ben will have business for a while. But bottom line, these things hallucinate. They haven't fixed it. They're papering over it.

And it's just not that great other than eating up your tokens, munching away. Munch. Yeah. Even comic strip bloggers kind of backed off. Oh, Claude, this is it. Jobs will be gone. You better get your affairs in order because AI is taking over everything. You'll have nothing to do. You won't have a job. People living on the street. What, in what technological revolution has that happened? When we invented electricity, did everyone lose their job?

When we had the industrial revolution, did people lose jobs or more jobs created? With desktop computing, were more jobs created or lost? Well, my favorite along these lines is that once they coined the term paperless office, if you had invested all your money in paper companies, you'd be a multimillionaire. You'd be a Koch brother, basically. So there's always that. But there's another story that's floating around. There's a big news story this morning.

That's all we're talking about on some of these shows, which is the LA lawsuit over social media. Are you familiar with what's going on here? Yeah, I think we played a clip a couple of shows back. It's coming to a head. Okay. You got anything? I got one clip. I labeled it number one, thinking I was going to get more. And then I kind of crapped out. This is an NPR report. Or no, this is NTD, LA lawsuit.

We're outside the Los Angeles Superior Courthouse where an engineer and data science professor took the stand today. Professor John Chandler testified saying how social media companies generate billions of dollars through ad revenue from young users under the age of 18. Professor John Chandler told jurors that research estimates showed platforms made billions of dollars from users under 18, including roughly $5 billion from Instagram and more than $2 billion from YouTube in a single year.

However, YouTube attorneys pushed back questioning how Chandler calculated watch time and ad exposure and pointing out that he does not personally use Instagram or knew all of the features offered on the app. Jurors were also shown how ads play on the YouTube app and showed Bad Bunny's NFL halftime performance as an example of how ads pop up.

Plaintiff attorney Mark Lanier went into detail describing how ads are customized to certain users saying when they log into their YouTube, they are actually logging into their Google account, which can send them ads based on their search history. He also mentioned how children who lied about their age are being fed adult advertisements.

For years, big tech has hidden behind predatory design, coercive tactics to manipulate, exploit and addict my generation of young people, stealing the meaning of digital community right out from under us. And I say no more. Many survivor parents attend the trial each day and on Wednesday, about 20 held a press conference outside the courthouse. They called for what they described as common sense legislative solutions to address social media's impact on young users.

Yeah, how about no slave slabs for you child? Survivor parents is a term they use and I'm surprised they don't use the term victims for all these social media users. This is a lawsuit one girl has brought forward. She has 20. She says she got addicted to Instagram. She got addicted and she has mental health issues because of it. And they have and they're making a big stink out of it.

And they're suing Instagram. And I don't know, there's two or three social media operations they're going to going after. I think YouTube is one of them. And it's actually a big deal because I don't think they're going to win because the guys, the counter arguments are too, you know, they're just end up blaming the parents. They're strong. Yeah, so do I. Yeah, it is the parents fault. I blame the parents.

But all I've noticed is ever since, you know, smartphones, everything and there's really been a great innovation since then. Of course, now AI is supposed to be the great innovation. Everything has just gotten worse. Your battery runs down quicker because of all this nonsense that's running around doing stuff for you. You know, search engines suck. Just suck. Everything's just kind of gotten worse. Has that not been your experience in, you know, five decades in the tech industry?

No, I think they've always been bad. And so I don't think it's really gotten that much worse. And it's always entertaining at some level. And it's hard to say. I mean, the social media stuff is the addictive aspect of it with the algo and all the rest is probably concerning. And I think people should be aware of it. It's something that didn't exist at this level before. But the parents are addicted themselves. And yet that is the problem. That's the problem, right? The bad example.

Yeah, I agree. So Samsung is coming out with their Galaxy S26. And they're not going to put one, not two, but three AI engines in there. Why? Why? Oh, I'm glad you asked. Because so we'll have Gemini perplexity. So Gemini for agentic tasks like booking rides and doing things across apps for you. Perplexity for web-based queries. And then an upgraded version of Samsung's own Bixby, which I noticed myself as all of a sudden might not be. Yeah, my now dead foldable phone.

Hi, I'm Bixby. How can I help you? Really? Is this the same as Clippy? Or that little dog that you see in the corner? With a name like Bixby, it might as well be. So it's going to, you know, it's going to book Uber rides for you automatically when you have to go to dinner as after it already. Because there's so much work. It's so hard to go on the app, the Uber app and click, click a couple of times and get your ride figured out. They're out of ideas. That's the whole point.

They're out of ideas. Well, we got this cool stuff, you know, and your agent can talk to my agent. This is in the press release. Your agent talks to my agent. They set a date for dinner and then it'll automatically book our rides. It'll pre-order our favorite meals. I mean, every, like, this is why I said... Pre-order your favorite meal. This is what I said on the last show. Like, we are the robots. The tech companies are just... It's a good point.

Just using the phones to control us and it's working. Pre-order your favorite meal. And then we have... You don't go to a restaurant to eat your favorite meal necessarily. You go there, maybe, I mean, there used to be a place that always had these frog legs that always go there. But you'd always still look at the menu and say, wait a minute, this isn't different. Let me try that. I guess that's out of the question now. So lawmakers in Colorado have come up with a genius idea.

This is Senators Matt Ball and Amy Pachal. They're state senators. They came up with SB 26051 requiring operating systems such as Apple, Google, and Microsoft. But they appear to also have thrown in open source. You will now have to verify your age upon installing or starting up the operating system. So they figured, oh, the way to do this is you have to verify your age to the operating system. And after that, everything else has to adhere to that age verification. How about that for an idea?

Well, you mean everything defaults to that? Yeah, everything defaults to it, yeah. So that's not going to work. No. What, you think these kids are stupid? Yeah, yeah. So we're going to... Hey, Dad, can you install the operating system for me? Oh, yeah, sure. Okay, I'm good to go, thanks. I mean, come on. What could possibly go wrong? This is all virtue signaling. You're going to talk about this sort of thing since we're talking about computers and stuff.

I do have another short presentation I'd like to get rid of. This is the video game sick report. Oh, okay. What makes more money than the music industry and the film industry combined? The answer is found in the click of a mouse, the flick of a thumbstick. I'm talking about video games. Yeah, yeah. What is it, almost 10 times the size of Hollywood now? Yeah, it's pretty big. But what is the flick of a thumbstick? Did you hear that little thing? This is our expert reporting from NPR.

What makes more money than the music industry and the film industry combined? The answer is found in the click of a mouse, the flick of a thumbstick. I'm talking about video games. Wow. Thumbsticks is how I control the entire show. Thumbsticks, do you flick the thumbsticks? Yeah, that's how I forgot to record. I was flicking the thumbstick and I thought it went. Okay, well, they strained out and discussed joysticks for a little bit here with part two.

Last year, the video game industry generated around $190 billion in revenue, according to outlets that track it. So how did this medium go from the arcade into a global juggernaut? That is the subject of a new podcast series called Hidden Levels, which is a collaboration between 99%- This is a house ad. It's a house ad. It's a house ad that you're playing. I would say about half of the stuff on NPR now is house ads for their podcasts that you can receive wherever you get your podcasts.

Visible and endless thread from member station WBUR in Boston. And Ben Brock Johnson is here. He's the creator of Hidden Levels and the co-host of Endless Thread. Hi, Ben. Hi, Emily. You can be player one. I'll be player two. Ready player two. Let's go. Your series is so fantastic. It covers so many interesting things. It's six episodes. And one of them is all about the history of the joystick because its origins have nothing to do with gaming, turns out. Yeah, this was a really fun episode.

The joystick is born in the early 1900s. It has a somewhat murky origin. It gets introduced into the aviation industry first to better control some of the first airplanes. That makes sense. Yeah, but then the joystick gets incorporated and really perfected by the video game industry starting in the 70s as a tool that has become the way to extend our bodies via machine. It's just used everywhere now.

Yeah, when I was training to fly a helicopter and airplanes, I always had to learn how to use the joystick. And I think on my test, I even had to say, you know, you use the joystick to control the plane, morons. So this is the level of discourse we have on NPR when it comes to tech. So here's the third clip, which I have labeled WTF, meaning there's something stupid in it.

Well, I mean, you can say there's something stupid in all these clips that I have today, but there's something particularly stupid here. Shane Rivera, a psychotherapist who works with LGBTQ youth in South Carolina. And Rivera described how a person, they were working with, found a safe space for her own identity in the video game The Sims. Little by little, she herself started to try out different things that her avatar did. Different types of makeup, different types of clothing.

Until she settled into this style that was much more her, rather than a preconceived notion of masculinity or femininity. I'm so taken with that because at the core of gaming is play and play is how you can discover yourself. And it reminds me of this game called Life is Strange True Colors. The character in that game can fall in love with either a man or a woman. And it was a way that I explored and ultimately found my own bisexuality. Oh, oh man. This is a call back to Gamergate.

This is where it all started. This is where all of the woke stuff started to rear its head. And we ignored it for months until there was no ignoring it. And this is where it came from, where you had this huge pressure from video game reviewers and magazines and websites. All of your characters are sexy chicks and this is no good. We've got to have equity and equality. And it started with Gamergate. That was the genesis of it popping up. And here we are.

It's saved an NPR host from hooking up with a dude too much. Yeah, now she's discovered she's bi. Her own bisexuality. Yes, her own bisexuality. She discovered it by playing games. Nice. Yeah, yeah. Video games got her into lesbianism basically. So, okay. Well, that's good to know. Here's another clip. That's good to know. That's just swell. Swell, guys. We need to bring the word swell back. Swell. That's just swell. That's just swell. All right.

Because I could fall in love with both and they both were great storylines equally. And the game really allowed me that. So, you're saying that games can be places where people can grapple with real world things. They're not just escapism. Absolutely. And that's, wow, that's such a meaningful example and why representation is so important in these spaces. Representation in these spaces. Is this why this guy is on to talk about representation in these spaces? Is that why they got him on?

I have no idea why they even did this. NPR has gone down the toilet. This is great. I mean, it's just a gay cabal now. Give me a break. Gay cabal. That's what it is. Cooperation. It's kind of pathetic. And they're so proud of themselves. They are. I'm listening to a host. I don't give a crap about their sexuality and I don't want to throw it in my face. Oh, man. Here we go. Wrap up with the BS. Okay. I think games are really, ultimately, they're a reflection of us, right?

In our own capacity for building things or destroying things and everything in between. Not only are video games huge, they're also impacting our world in ways that we don't really realize and appreciate. Tell me about this sexuality. It's in your DNA. No, it's in my video game. That's where it is. Well, I do like the fact that one of those, one of the big gaming consoles is now all Linux and gave up on Windows. I think that's kind of cool. If I were Microsoft, I'd be concerned about that.

What is the big platform that just came out with a huge console? I have no idea what you're talking about. Yeah. One of the big gaming consoles is now all Linux. Sony? No. No, no. Microsoft's dropping the Xbox. Steam, Steam, Steam. Steam. Yeah. Steam has all the games. Has a lot of games, not all the games. Steam has a lot of games. I thought that was online stuff. I didn't know that was a console. Valve. I think Valve is the name of the console.

Yeah. Yeah. And they sell pre-made Linux boxes now. Yeah. Good for them. All right. Let's talk about the State of the Union, which the president did. He sounds a little tired from time to time. I thought it was... He went 148. Yeah. I thought it was a good... I think a good joke was, stand up if you stand for the American people over illegal immigrants. I thought that was a fun move. I have a copy of that on the clip list. Yes. Before we... I'll let you do these clips. I just want to play one.

The takeaway this morning on CNN. Among speech watchers tonight, 64% say his policies will move the U.S. in the right direction. And look at the growth President Trump made over the speech. So pre-speech, it was 54% of speech watchers said his policies will move the U.S. in the right direction. After the speech, that number goes up 10 percentage points. So Donald Trump made some progress with people watching the speech from their pre-speech expectations to what they saw in the speech itself.

And that 64% number, that's pretty much in range across all of his State of the Union addresses in his first term, last year, the joint session. That's about where we've seen this. Roughly two thirds have walked away from his speeches thinking he's going to move it in the right direction. So a lot of red meat for the base. Yeah, there's no doubt about that. I, if you're a Republican on the ballot in 2026, I think you leave this speech being as happy as you could possibly be.

That he sort of stuck to the script on the economy. He gave the red meat to the base on immigration and they can leave the home tonight and sort of take that out on the campaign trail. I was surprised that CNN did the report and that the numbers were that high. I didn't expect that. I mean, these things are always just a performance. It doesn't matter who's doing them. And it's either a performance from the Republicans in the audience and a Democrat president or vice versa.

It's always the same thing. Yeah, it's a joke. Yeah, it's a joke. Yes. So what do you have? I just have some of the highlights. Let me go. I'm going to start with the one that I, because I want to just, there's a little tidbit in here that one person I saw bring it up and I'm going to bring it up too. This is a State of the Union. This is when he talks about Irina, the woman who was murdered on the train in North Carolina, I guess it was.

And to get, you know, now he's doing some of this stuff where he points out somebody in the audience. He had the family there and then the Democrats would sit and the Republicans would clap. And here's an example. President Trump is also honoring and vowing justice for Anna Zaruzka. That's the mother of 23 year old Irina Zaruzka, the Ukrainian refugee who was fatally stabbed last August in Charlotte, North Carolina, light rail train.

Her killing attracted a lot of attention and intense criticism over why the suspect was on the street despite 14 prior arrests. Take a look. She had escaped a brutal war only to be slain by a hardened criminal, set free to kill in America, came in through open borders. Mrs. Zaruzka, tonight, I promise you, we will ensure justice for your magnificent daughter, Irina. How do you not stand? How do you not stand?

So the thing about how do you not stand, which to me would be great irony was they put they put a camera on people like Elizabeth Warren. And it's all these Democrats. They all didn't stand for the Ukrainian girl and they all had little Ukraine flags on. They had these little Ukraine flags. Elizabeth Warren is a Ukraine flag and then an American flag just underneath it, which is kind of the opposite of the way it should be.

And I could be wrong about the order, but I'm pretty sure the Ukraine flag was on top. But but it's about Ukraine. They didn't stand. I mean, to me, it was it was priceless in terms of the hypocrisy. Well, I like the your report there saying I got a lot of attention. If I recall correctly, it took the mainstream media two weeks to give this attention. There was no one talking about it except podcasts. Yeah, I happen to remember these things. Yeah, you remember that as a podcaster.

Let's go with here's the aliens clip. President Trump last night making history with the longest record of the State of the Union address clocking in at just under an hour and 48 minutes. And a large focus of the president's address last night was on his administration's immigration and crime policies. This is as he demands the full and immediate restoration of all funding for the Department of Homeland Security.

The president is also last night calling on Congress to pass what he says he will call the Delilah law. That would be a law banning any state from granting commercial driver's licenses to illegal immigrants. President stressing his reasoning there that many illegal immigrants do not speak English and thus have trouble reading basic road signs. And the so-called Delilah law is named after a little girl who was in the audience last night.

Delilah Coleman, who was five when she was critically injured in a car crash caused by a trailer driven by an illegal immigrant. She miraculously survived those critical injuries and was there with her father. Take a look. Marcus, a fantastic man. Delilah, please. You are a great inspiration. Please stand up. So tonight I'm inviting every legislature to join with my administration in reaffirming a fundamental principle. If you agree with this statement, then stand up and show your support.

The first duty of the American government is to protect American citizens, not illegal aliens. You should be ashamed of yourself not standing up. You should be ashamed of yourself. It got annoying. It's like, OK, don't you know how this works? They don't stand. You say stand. They don't stand. You're unpatriotic. You're no good. It is funny. I mean, he's definitely milking it. The last one was the boycott clip.

Meanwhile, Kevin, a historically unprecedented number of lawmakers actually boycotted President Trump's State of the Union last night north of 70 lawmakers. And there are also counter addresses scheduled at the same time. There's the People's State of the Nation there on the National Mall here, and there was State of the Swamp at the National Press Club.

And House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries told Democratic lawmakers who did attend to silently defy the president's remarks, although some were more vocal about their dissent, including Representative Ilhan Omar, who during his part about immigration policy was calling the president a liar and a murderer during his speech. And meanwhile, Governor Abigail Spanberger of Virginia gave the official Democratic rebuttal, criticizing President Trump's immigration policy.

Our president told us tonight that we are safer because these agents arrest mothers and detain children. Think about that. Our broken immigration system is something to be fixed, not an excuse for unaccountable agents to terrorize our communities. What? Yeah. Oh, brother. No. Oh, brother. But you should have seen the alternate events with the fraud. I have a clip, a very short clip about that from Reuters.

Several Democrats opted to skip Trump's speech and instead went to an event dubbed the People's State of the Union. Others went to a different counter event called the State of the Swamp, where actor Robert De Niro addressed the crowd, including activists dressed as frogs. I mean, again, it's all so they're all now they're trying to get the influencers to pay attention to. Look, we got we're dressed as frogs. Oh, yeah, this will go viral. Yeah, it'll go viral. No problem.

You know, someone asked me, like, well, how can Ilan Omar be yelling that? I said, this goes back to the first time I remember someone calling out the president from from from the seats was President Obama in 2009. Was it the guy from? I forget his name. Wilson. Joe Wilson called. He's like, you're lying. You're lying. He's a liar. And then Marjorie Taylor Greene called out Biden, I think. This is. Yes, this is. Get back to work, all of you. Sick of it.

Now, I have one clip from the State of the Union, because in case you didn't know, we are now currently in the golden age. A primetime pitch to the nation from a president not known for his brevity. True to form, Donald Trump delivered the longest State of the Union address in history. I'm sure he went home and went like, Melania, it was a lot. I got the record longest state in the Union. Never had a longest. Yeah, I'm sure he did it.

As his approval ratings slide and concerns about affordability grow, the president insisted Americans have never had it so good. Our nation is back bigger, better, richer and stronger than ever before. His greatest hits were on full display. No tax on tips, doubling down on tariffs and a promise to stay tough on immigration. The only thing standing between Americans and a wide open border right now is President Donald J. Trump and our great Republican patriots in Congress. Thank you.

The speech was often interrupted by cheers and chants of USA. The Olympic gold medal winners in the US men's hockey team received a standing ovation. But at times, tensions spilled into the chamber. You should be ashamed of yourself. That is why I'm also asking you to end deadly sanctuary cities that protect the criminals. And in that Democratic Congresswoman Ilhan Omar shouted in protest during the president's remarks on immigration and the Somali community in her home city of Minneapolis.

Fellow Democratic lawmaker Al Green was escorted from the chamber. He had waved a sign protesting a video the president had posted depicting the Obamas as apes. We're lucky we have a country with people like this. Democrats are destroying our country, but we've stopped. And dozens of other Democrats had refused to show up in the first place. Okay, it's also tiring. Like how many state of the unions have we covered in the course of this show? 25 maybe?

Well, it comes out once a year, so probably not 25. Well, it can't be 50. I don't think I can remember that. Once a year. Yeah, but I guess we have. Once a year. We've done about 18 of them. Yeah. Oh. We have the most state of the union coverage in our podcast ever. It's true. You're not getting it. I'm not, but you know what I'm saying. If you're going to want to try it, keep working on it, I'll encourage it. There's so many people out there. I'd rather do Alex Jones. Hey, man, listen.

Iran is going to blow up. You know what's going to happen? The Muslims are taking over Texas. I read their documents. I've seen it. It's in their documents. Yeah, you're Alex Jones. I'd say you're 90%. And in fact, you're so far along, I have no suggestions. Normally, I'd say, well, if you could twist it. No prompting. They have no prompts for me. Oh, this is good. Maybe the cadence could change. I can't say any of that because you got it to such an extreme that I can't help.

I'm getting there, I'm getting there. It's up to you. Get in front of a mirror. That's still the big thing here in Texas. Oh, Sharia law is coming. People say this to me. Aren't you afraid of Sharia law? No. But we're becoming Sweden. We're becoming the UK. I said, no. Check the numbers. Our borders are closed. And it took 25 years for this mess to happen in the EU. And I saw it happen. I saw it before my very eyes. And you need open borders for this to happen.

And a complete, always communist government. And a complete subdued population. But it's the Republican talking point. Just like Mandami, it's going to be there everywhere. So that'd be pretty funny. Anyway, Iran. ABC report from this morning. The US is increasing its military presence in the Middle East, adding to its show of force against Iran. In a rare move, a US official telling ABC News tonight about a dozen Air Force F-22 fighters have now landed in Israel tonight.

The fighters spotted taking off from a base in the UK. President Trump threatening US military action against Iran unless the Iranian regime agrees to a nuclear deal. All right. All right. We're ratcheting it up. Let's go to CBS. The world's largest aircraft carrier, the USS Gerald R. Ford, sailed into an American naval base on the Greek island of Crete today with multiple squadrons of F-18 fighter jets seen on deck.

The Pentagon has moved at least 120 aircraft to the region in the past two weeks alone. Pressure is mounting inside Iran, too. Thousands of students protested against the regime, the first demonstration since the brutal crackdown in January that left thousands dead. President Trump is weighing his options. I think they want to make a deal. I don't think they want the consequences of not making a deal.

Potential targets could include Iran's ballistic missile sites, its nuclear facilities and the headquarters of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps. Iran's foreign minister said the country was ready to fight. We have a very good capability of missiles. And now we are even in a better situation than previous war. Iran has not only threatened retaliation against U .S. bases in the region, but Israel. I love the Nat Pops in CBS's report. They got explosion after explosion.

Directly. If Iran retaliates, it might not just be Iran. We've been fighting the last two and a half war on seven different fronts. We've seen multiple enemies. U.S. officials say if President Trump does decide to hit Iran, one option is a joint military operation between the United States and Israel. Both countries have discussed hitting Iran's ballistic missile sites. Yeah, because, as you know, Bibi Netanyahu told Trump what to do and Trump went, OK, baby.

Here's Canada's global news and then a surprising report from France 24. With his country still inching towards conflict, U .S. President Donald Trump used some of his primetime speech to issue a direct warning to Iran to give up its nuclear desires. We wiped it out and they want to start all over again. Iranian officials pushed back on Trump's rhetoric, calling it, quote, big lies.

We're in no way seeking nuclear weapons, Iran's president said in recent days, despite sites destroyed in 2025 appearing to be rebuilt, which adds pressure to another round of upcoming diplomatic talks. The president was measured when it came to the conflict in Iran. He definitely didn't saber rattle. He didn't make threats. He didn't need to. The massive U.S. military buildup around Iran speaks to America's distrust.

If you choose diplomacy and respect Iran's dignity and interests, Iran's parliamentary speaker said we will stay at the table. The U.S. has hinted at potential olive branches, including small scale uranium enrichment. There's zero path to a nuclear weapon and failure to do so could result in consequences. This is him making the decision to use military force to achieve his own policy objectives.

There are reports senior Pentagon officials have expressed concerns about a large response, saying munitions stockpiles are low due to American defense of Israel and support for Ukraine, potentially giving the president room to delay his decision. That probably gave the American people a little bit of a sigh of relief, but it doesn't absolve the fact that this is still a very hot situation. And the president has to convince people that this is in the nation's best interest.

Still, time is running out with a 10 or 15 day deadline imposed by Donald Trump quickly coming to an end. OK, so what we discussed on the last show, I think, is still very much in play. This is to stop any any oil going to China or to Russia. Hey, let us in. Let our American companies set up shop. We'll do the refining. We'll do the shipping. We'll do drop shipping for you. We'll do gift cards, whatever you want. We'll take care of that.

We'll even give you some of those cool little reactors that we that we're shipping around with the air forces flying all over the place. Just do a deal. I still don't understand why the president to me is lying about this. You know, I want to rebuild. It just doesn't ring true at all. And France 24 came very close, I think, in this report. The big, big issue as well is for the US to debunk and destabilize the access that goes from Iran to China and also Russia.

And only then people like Jared Kushner will appreciate the fact that possibly they can implement the peace board, the extension of Abraham Accords and reshape this region for which they also have a vision, an ambition and their own ideology. And we'll see in the coming days how their own strategy plans applies on the ground. Sarah Krebs, speaking of China, we've had in the last days talk about intelligence sharing on the part of Beijing for Tehran.

Your thoughts on again, is this more than just the United States versus Iran? And what is the role of China in all this? Yeah, this seems like classic realpolitik on the ground, which is sort of the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Right now, it seems as though there are these kind of two worlds, U.S. allies, China, its allies, and then these kind of the Indias of the world that are trying to navigate the middle.

And so it's not surprising that China is trying to align a little bit with Iran in order to push back in a balance of power kind of way against the United States, because that's kind of what these spheres of influence are right now. So it's not surprising at all. First time I've heard any news report talk about China in regards to this Iranian gambit. I'm glad somebody picked it up. Barely, though, barely. It's like, come on, it's so obvious.

After Venezuela, this is now this is what has to happen. And, you know, you're not going to get your oil out of the Straits of Hormuz through the armada. So do a deal and then come on into the world and everybody can play nice. Can it be anything else? It's clearly not some nuclear facility. No one is saying we'll have the bomb in one week. Nukes coming. That's off the table. Well, Whitkoff did say that recently. Oh, yeah, I don't have the clip. Out of the blue.

I think this was like about three or four days ago. Whitkoff has said exactly that. Oh, what a douche. He's what it was. I see. I think he had his binder and he flipped to the wrong tab. He's off script. And it was like from five years ago. He's getting what you say. He's getting he's getting his information from chat GPT on the flight. Well, Bixby said books beside the gun have a nuke in the one week. So one week.

So one of the most controversial things that I have ever seen happen on this show as we made a call out and said, listen, we have now seen so many times a social media post where American troops are being served steak and lobster. And it immediately goes around as that's it. Steak and lobster, steak and lobster. They're going to be deployed. Strikes are coming. And I said, please, to our military producers, of which there are many. Could you please let me know what your what your experiences?

Well, this is super interesting because it may have to do with what service you're in. But I will share a few of the I'm sorry. Yes, we have two notes in particular and they contradict each other. Well, I have about eight notes that contradict each other. First one. I spent 31 years in the Navy, went on deployment and they give us steak and lobster. It's usually because we're getting extended and not going home. It's true. Next one.

My husband, who served in the army and retired after 20 years of service in 2021, had seven tours to Iraq and Afghanistan, said a very long time ago when chow halls and kitchens were only a couple of bases. They would ship hot meals in these military Yetis, and they would serve that before after an operation in the early 2000s. But now it's every Friday everywhere, basically all the time on Friday. So the videos that are going around social media are just Friday. Next one. Yeah, I love these.

Your sense that this was BS and brother, you are right. I served as a cook in the US Army. Now we have Navy and Army different things for 10 years from 88 to 98. I've served in both procurement and production capacities in large scale dining facilities. These operate on a modest budget. Generally, they plan for a three week menu to cycle to balance consistency with variety while special meals were planned in and they could deviate under special circumstances.

It was rarely done to done to financial constraints. In September every year, it was clear which facilities had budgeted well. Those who who would shift to steak and shrimp. We never produce lobster weekly. Those which manage finances poorly would swap ham and omelets to bologna and orange juice to Kool-Aid to cut costs ahead of the first fiscal year. So okay, then we have retired from the Army 2018 Master Sergeant 20 years of active duty service. The steak and lobster theory is bullshit.

I can only speak from the Army perspective. The Air Force probably has steak and lobster on the days they don't have prime rib and caviar. With that being said, most soldiers don't even eat in the dining facilities outside of breakfast. Even the numbers are smaller than most people assume. I believe there's the theory that all soldiers live in barracks with a chow hall across the street. Most soldiers live at home with their family either on post housing or in a house or apartment off base.

They eat their dinners at home, take their lunch or go out and eat at one of the many fast food restaurants in base. If they are in a defense ready for status, they're still living off post, can't drink and usually have an hour recall and could be anywhere in the world in about 18 hours. Soldiers living in the barracks are generally on a meal card that allows them to eat at the dining facility for free. Everyone else gets charged.

Soldiers not on meal card are on basic allowance for the substance. They are paid $476 a month to get their own food wherever they wish. Then we have Commodore Matt, the metal bender. I just heard your immediate call to arms. I can confirm. I served in the US Navy and it was widely known if you get surf and turf while you're out at sea, bad news is coming. Some ships would also bring out ice cream machines that they didn't usually have for the same purpose.

The idea was to boost morale before dealing a big blow. So it seems the Navy may be doing this. Then we have the final one, Sir M, mad son of Mid Valley. I deployed to Iraq, Afghanistan a few times. I've enjoyed many meals at dining facilities in Kuwait, Qatar, and Romania. I can tell you from my experience that service members eating steak, lobster, and crab means it's Friday.

Friday night is usually surf and turf night, just like Wednesday is wings night, and Tuesday is taco night in many chow halls and dining facilities military wide. So the only thing I can see here is that maybe the Navy does this, but everybody else seems to think it's just Friday. I think we've solved this. I wouldn't know much to solve, but at least we got the bullcrap out of the way. It's Friday. Thank you for the social media and it's great insights.

And with that, I want to thank you for your courage. Say in the morning to you, the man who put the sea in China's role in Iran. Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only Mr. John C. DuBois. And the morning to the trolls in the troll room. Let me count you for a second. 1532, it should be 1800 today. Those are the trolls hanging out in the troll room.

That means they are listening live either at trollroom.io or noagendastream.com, or perhaps they're using one of those fabulous modern podcast apps. Can't wait for the new pod verse to come out. It's going to blow the socks off of everybody. Oh, I had podcasting news, by the way. Podcasting news. Yes, I had podcasting news. So, you know, everyone's like, oh, you got to do a video podcast. Video podcast is got, if it's not a video podcast, it's got to be a video podcast.

So Spotify was the first to jump on the video podcast. Yeah, you can upload your video to us for your video podcast. What's happening is the and boy, we could have seen this coming from a mile away. Now that you can create video podcasts and Spotify will put you up there in the top ranking podcast. Because, of course, it's all about the chart, man. You got to be in the chart. If you're not in the chart, no one's going to listen to your podcast. Certainly not watch your podcast.

So guess what shows up in between Megyn Kelly and Joe Rogan and others? Porn. There's all these porn podcasts. And now Spotify is going, what's a porn podcast do? They're just uploading porn as a podcast. And calling it a podcast. Hey, hey, today's redhead day. What do you think, Adam? We got some redheads lined up. Oh, yeah, there's a bunch of them. They all get the skinny ones, me, the big ones, the top heavy ones. What are we going to start with today, Adam? What do you think?

All I can do is go back to this. So now Spotify, it's like so obvious this is going to happen. Now Spotify has to employ 30 people to go and check every video podcast to make sure it's not porn. Like, didn't you know that was going to happen? It's so obvious. Porn. And it's top in the charts. Another obvious thing. What? Top of the charts. Top of the charts. We're number one. Taking over Joe Rogan any moment now. Hilarious. Anyway, go to modern, newpodcastapps.com.

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We titled that Slave Slab, which we totally stole from some of the art because we're trying to come up with the right name for it. We got it from Dan. Dan, that's right. O-B-G-Y-A-N. Yes. Four. He's the one who coined it. Thank you for remembering. Thank you for remembering. He coined it and... Because we had Controller Slab and we knew we were on the right track, but we didn't have it just yet. And then when we looked at the art, we went, Oh, Slave Slab. That's it.

Because these things are clearly not phones. They are a slab that you are enslaved to. And then you're carrying it around literally in your hand while walking down the street. Sometimes two. One in each hand. It's amazing. That's only women though. For some reason, a lot of women have two phones. I think it's the family phone and the work phone. Just in case. Just in case. And we argued over... Well, we discussed many different pieces. We chose Rocket Boy's throwback to 2001. Is it 2001 Odyssey?

Is that it? Yeah. And I was surprised by when we were doing the post-mortem on the show afterwards that you had never seen this movie. I can't recall seeing it. Of course, I know Open the Pod Bay Doors, Hal. But I don't think I've actually seen it. So I have put it on the list. I have put it on the list. Well, you know... I don't know. You know, I'm thinking about it because that movie came out in the 80s or the 70s. Maybe I was in Holland and they didn't have it. It's possible.

But I'm wondering, because I haven't seen it for a while, whether it's even watchable anymore. That's probably why I have never gone. It's like, oh, I should watch this thing. You know what was interesting? We wanted to watch Spin City. We thought, you know, hey, it'd be fun to watch Spin City with Michael J. Fox as an old show to just kind of reminisce. That is not available. And if you search for it, it says not available because license expiration.

So there's a show that should be on Pluto, or at least someone should pick that up. That was a good show. Anyway, yeah, it may be unwatchable. Kind of like the Colossus movie. What was that thing called again? The Forbidden Project. I think that's still kind of watchable. So it was Dan OBGYN 4. And he's had the image, which I did not remember because I probably haven't seen the movie, that you said, that's the monolith. It's the monolith. Don't you see? It's the monolith.

I'm like, what are you talking about? It's a big phone in the middle of a valley. And Dan, I thought this was the art I picked. Yes, you did. But Adam was so adamant about not getting it. I have to assume that if he didn't get, I mean, there's a lot of people that probably didn't get it if he didn't get it. And so we went to another version of the same art, only more, I would say, surreal. And we picked the other version. Which looks a lot like a phone in front of an orange butt plug.

Which is the first thing you saw, which I thought was dimensional thinking. So it's like, holy mackerel, I didn't get that. I still can't see it, but OK. When was the last time you saw a butt plug? I don't go around looking for them. I think the last time I saw is when Adam Schiff gave a speech. There it is, everybody. So thank you very much, Rocket Boy, for bringing that beautiful piece of art. And anybody can submit for the show. Get your favorite AI thing to do it.

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Thank you again to the executive and associate Our formula is this We go out we hit people in the mouth Oh Let's see, I think oh just a fun little ditty although it's very very short and you probably heard about it There's a minor controversy at the British fake Oscars also known as the BAFTAs As one of the People who was in a Tourette's movie Could not help himself when two black actors were on stage Here we go The first BAFTA of the night for a vital part of movie

-making My colleague I love how was it was it Jamie Foxx you said no man he meant that It's such a controversy you get a Tourette's guy in an award show hello. Yeah, what do you expect to happen? Yeah, I Never had that kind of Tourette's no, that's that's extreme and that happens a lot Yeah, and once in a while you run into and I feel sorry for people that get that don't under that haven't happened to them They're the Tourette's sufferer.

Yeah, and it happened I was headed there on a flight once and there's some poor guy came in yeah, I obviously had Tourette's and he was freaking out and Dragging his luggage backwards off the wheels and then cussing like a maniac Trying to put his bags up while cussing and cussing and cussing it and they took him off the plane and I felt really That's because I knew it was like just somebody was well Because when you're on the plane, then you can't help but saying bomb bomb bomb.

Yes, that's that's but that's what Tourette's is It's like a severe OCD where you think I'm I'm not gonna blink my eyes. I'm not gonna blink my eyes. Oh crap I'm blink my eyes like crazy. I can't stop.

I can't that's what it is And if you have the really bad kind it's like oh I can't say bomb on this airplane Bob that's what it is It's uh Yeah You know Steve Jobs had a little bit of Tourette's did you know that I Know but I'm trying to imagine him Well, if you look at that video where he announces podcasting and then you know, I'm cussing about my Mac hard drive suck Yeah, yeah, if you look at him, he laughs and then he ticks his head like three or four times Oh the old head deal the old

head tick. Yeah, like like Stephen Miller has like I have Yeah, yeah. Well, yeah, I do Go. Yeah, you have yeah, I do. Oh, yeah, you don't have the blinky blink. Oh, I do Oh the blinky blink a lot the blinky whenever I go on Rogan the blinky blink is hard to control my socks But that but it's cool you look at the YouTube comments people like What is that guy like resetting every five seconds and then you'll get a comment under it. Someone's like hey, man Yes to rats leave Malone.

Okay I'm a victim. You see I'm a victim and then people the step is stick up for me. It's good. I like it Let's go with cash Patel's hockey fiasco NPR The stupidest thing of the week, so Ryan I want to start with cash Patel's trip to Milan I think a lot of people have seen that video of him partying with the u.s. Men's hockey team Is that why this is getting so much attention? Short answer.

Yeah, that's that is certainly a lot of it Look at FBI directors are traditionally very serious buttoned-up professionals Robert Mueller is one example, you know They wear suits and a tie they carry the FBI and it's huge responsibilities on their shoulders We're talking terrorism investigations fighting drug cartels Catching foreign spies trying to steal America's secrets and then juxtapose that with the video of Patel and Milan Celebrating with the u.s Men's hockey team in the

locker room after the gold medal win over Canada and in that video Patel is chugging a bottle of beer. He sprays some in the air. He pumps his fist bangs on a table He jumps around and sings with the team And so this episode is certainly added to concerns including among current and former FBI officials About Patel's temperament and his fitness for this big important job What does Patel had to say about the criticism over this video?

He's tried to brush it off He said in a post on X that he loves America and was humble to celebrate with Team USA Now Am I mistaken that cash Patel plays hockey played hockey was a dog. He plays Not pro, but that's semi pro, but he plays it. He's on a league. He's a hockey player. He's nuts about it That's not in the coach of the national team is his buddy And his buddy invited him into hey, come on you want to come in the back?

Yeah. Sure. I'll come back there And so they made a big fuss about it because you know, he was you know, he was acting like a dude No, no, the locker.

No. No the fuss is about the airplane Well that that became that that I think that's the secondary fuss because they're trying to add on to the main That's but the main fuss was this lack of decorum There was a suit and tie saying stop it boys stop singing But here's a part two of this clip now the top Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee says he has evidence that Patel's past travel Has actually hampered FBI investigations. What can you tell us about that? Right?

This is Illinois Democratic Senator Dick Durbin He said in a letter to the government accountability office yesterday that whistleblowers have come forward with information that Patel's decisions About the use of FBI planes have hampered a couple of high -profile investigations one instance According to Durbin an FBI team was delayed at least a day getting to Utah After conservative activist Charlie Kirk's assassination there because of a plane and pilot

shortage caused Durbin says by Patel's personal flights Durbin also says a team of FBI investigators was enabled to fly to Rhode Island after the shooting at Brown University Because of Patel's decisions about planes now FBI spokesman Ben Williamson has rejected both of those allegations on Brown University Specifically Williamson said on X that Patel was in Florida visiting his parents at the time But that there was no issue with aircraft being unavailable Needless to say though this

issue this travel issue for Patel is not going away. And here's Ryan Lucas. Thanks as always. Yeah, it's jet-gate This thing has legs. They're gonna go after him. They're gonna go after him real hard Here's the Jake Tapper Tapper did a whole segment on it. Oh Outrageous Believe it or not.

That's your FBI director That's Patel celebrating with the US men's hockey team after their overtime win against Canada to win the gold medal It was an incredible win that all Americans can celebrate now Why exactly the what?

Except Patel all Americans can celebrate but but not Patel the I director Who you might think would be busy with all sorts of things why he's in the locker room in Italy seemingly pounding beers along with the team Well, you can be forgiven Beers unlike Jake Tapper who was pounding beers at the deputy CIA directors birthday party Okay asking that question especially after FBI spokesman Ben Williamson was lashing out at a reporter from a different network on Twitter the day before the game for

asking whether Patel was going To attend the match the FBI spokesman writing quote your rag outlet Wrote that he went to hang out at the Olympics on the taxpayer dime Even when provided information that your theory was false unquote now the FBI is denying.

This was a personal trip for Patel they say the director flew to Milan on the FBI's gulfstream private jet for meetings with Italian law enforcement and Security officials adding that the FBI plays a major role in Olympic security and that the trip was planned months in advance, of course The Olympics was planned years in advance Director Patel responded to the criticism on X apparently not taking it very seriously writing quote for the very concerned media Yes

I love America and was extremely humbled of my friends the newly minted gold medal Winners on Team USA invited me into the locker room to celebrate this historic moment with the boys unquote of course The issue is not whether or not cash Patel loves America. It's about His judgment and whether or not he's embarrassing the bureau and the perks he grabs and the seriousness With which he treats his job.

Oh and one would think the FBI is pretty busy these days with lots of things going on Didn't stop there. We've got to evidence the Government Accountability Office estimates estimates that flying the FBI private jet costs at least five thousand dollars per hour Yeah, try closer to eleven thousand dollars an hour.

If it's the plane, I think it is five thousands pretty cheap Meaning Patel's Olympic trip could theoretically cost taxpayers at least tens of thousands of dollars And we should note that the FBI director for security reasons is legally mandated to use government aircraft for all travel including personal trips But they are required to reimburse taxpayers for the commercial cost of their travel But the question is why was he in Italy to begin with the trip to Italy is far from the only time That

Patel has faced accusations of using government for his personal benefit Reportedly at Patel's direction. The FBI is even providing a separate security detail for his girlfriend. No, not his wife No, no say his girlfriend country music singer Alexis Wilkins who lives Stop stop Does he is he married No, I don't think he is I think he has the the honeypot girlfriend remember this the one who's got the girlfriend But is he married? I don't think so. Then why would you say not his wife?

He doesn't have a wife You just put that in to make it sound scurrilous as Though he's ditched his wife and he's running off with this other woman. That's what it sounds like. It's not his wife It wasn't with his wife Good catch his Girlfriend. No, not his wife.

Not his fiance his girlfriend country music singer Alexis Wilkins who lives part-time in Nashville Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee launched an investigation last year into Patel's use of the FBI jet for private travel There was a time of course You might remember when Kash Patel seemed to have a different attitude towards the use of government resources confirmation hearing last year And the resources of the FBI which are funded by the American taxpayer dollars in

the seven minutes that you and I have been talking About two people have died from fentanyl overdoses One person has been shot to death in this country and three people have been raped The resources of the FBI will go to that mission set and that mission set alone Because America deserves a better brand of justice and I'm gonna give it to him Okay, so how many Americans died of fentanyl overdoses?

How many Americans were shot to death and how many Americans were raped while Kash Patel was celebrating in that locker Oh brother The hatred the hatred is so deep What happened to love conquers hate bad bunnies words Man oh man All right, I mean in the Netherlands the King When he was Prince Prince Pils for beer I mean he would when the Dutch won something he'd be freaking out it throwing beer over each other and one thought that was cool Yeah, no, I'm not in America.

No, you you can't celebrate anything here well, not if you're a Republican yeah, no, you can't if you're anything else it doesn't matter Going on to screwball stories, that's I got a couple here. I want to play this was the Cuba story.

I have questions Yeah, that is a screwball story Secretary of State Marco Rubio says US authorities are doing their own Investigation into an incident early this morning This comes after Cuba says its border guards shot and killed four people and wounded six aboard a Florida registered speedboat off the Cuban coast Cuba's Interior Ministry claims the crew aboard the vessel opened fire on the guards first who then returned fire Your secretary Rubio just moments ago We have

our embassy on the ground in Havana working this as we speak asking for access To the people that were on those vessels and we are going to verify that information independently and reach our own conclusions Cuban officials claim the commander of the Cuban vessel was wounded in the shooting The ministry released a statement following the incident saying Cuba would protect its territorial waters Florida's Attorney General says he has directed the Office of Statewide Prosecution to investigate

Secretary Rubio says the result of the investigation will be presented to policymakers including the president for potential further action Hi your questions But we're doing all this action against Cuba and we still have an embassy there they haven't kicked us out Yeah, I didn't realize that either In Havana, well, of course we did because that's where the Havana syndrome came from well, I know about the Havana syndrome and it came from there supposedly, but We're taking action.

We've we've cut them off from the oil supply. They can't refuel their jets or anything and They're having power outages and they've let us keep an embassy there. This doesn't make any sense to me I agree you would have thought they at least would have kicked our diplomats out, but I was gonna say these were Cuban Americans supposedly Who went over there?

I mean this has in some way it has Bay of Pigs vibe to it Yeah, well, there's also a lot of people who are real sailboat enthusiasts They're they're usually armed to the teeth on these some of these boats because of piracy in the open seas in the Caribbean Like Horowitz Horowitz always is packing heat when he goes with He's going to the islands man, he's packing heat he's not taking no risks He's got his he's got his Magnum, you know, he's got a he's got a 45.

He's got the AR 15 He's got a couple of grenades. He's serious. Ask him ask him about it. He'll tell you Well, it's a well-known fact that people are super careful they they're armed on these boats don't kid yourself So to a last Boss story, but this one's gonna be your favorite.

Mm-hmm. The Artemis. Oh, no NASA is moving its Artemis moon rocket from the launch pad back to the hangar for more repairs It's a slow four -mile track expected to take all day at Florida's Kennedy Space Center Managers managers ordered the rollback over the weekend after a problem developed with the rockets helium Pressurization system the launch team had been targeting March for the Artemis to astronaut mission Humanity's first trip to the moon in decades, but now it's off until

at least April. Yes, of course Because you know we did this with a tin can 50 years ago a tin can and some and some hoodies Oh with a with a garbage pail on their head, that's okay, and we'll get there eventually they're not even landing on the moon There's gonna fly around it. Yeah, there's a fly around. Yeah a little age is CGI.

Well AI it'll be great and unfortunately What it could be a lie it could be they could be misleading us, but it appears We did not have copulation in space It was not the female astronaut who was pregnant NASA is sharing the following information at the request of NASA astronaut Mike Fink on January 7th while aboard the International Space Station I experienced a medical event that required immediate attention from my incredible crewmates Thanks to their quick

response and the guidance of our NASA flight surgeons my status quickly stabilized after further evaluation NASA determined the safest course was an early return for crew 11 not an emergency But a carefully coordinated plan to be able to take advantage of advanced medical imaging not available on the space station on January 15th, we splashed down off the coast of San Diego after an amazing five and a half month mission I'm deeply grateful to my fellow expedition

74 members Zena Cardman Kimia Oleg Platonov Chris Williams Sergei coud ver Chavez and Sergei Mikheyev as well as the entire NASA team SpaceX and the medical professionals at Scripps Memorial Hospital, La Jolla near San Diego Their professionalism and dedication ensured a positive outcome.

I'm doing very well and continuing standard post -flight reconditioning at NASA's Johnson Space Center in Houston Space flight is an incredible privilege and sometimes it reminds us just how human we are Thank you for all your support. I Guess your theory doesn't pan out not necessarily. Oh, oh Okay Well, I mean a couple of things I keep an eye on the woman and see if she has a baby Well, that's that's the what's what you do.

Yes. Yeah, or the reason they want to bring out this cock and bull story Which is possible. It's that she had an abortion.

Oh goodness gracious Okay, I guess anything's possible Might be a bit of a stretch we still don't think it's a stretch Yes We haven't talked about it I did find this this report from Global News relatively complete regarding El Mencho The Mexican drug cartel leader And we should probably just wrap it all up with this report and we can maybe discuss after the operation to capture Mexico's most powerful cartel leader known as El Mencho unfolded in

a small town near Guadalajara Where Mexican special forces acted on a tip from an associate of one of his romantic partners in the raid that followed the wanted Drug lord was seriously wounded. He later died during an airlift.

This was a very very effective Take down of one of the biggest leaders and it was done, you know based on the intelligence That they come conducted primarily Mexico's defense minister became emotional as he honored the 25th National Guard members killed in operations Sunday The prosecutor's office where El Mencho's body was reportedly taken is now under heavy guard President Claudia Shane

bomb denied direct u.s. Involvement in the operation, but acknowledged the Americans did provide intelligence US President Donald Trump has previously threatened military strikes inside Mexico targeting cartels and has Designated El Mencho's cartel a foreign terrorist organization It's no coincidence that the Mexican government decides to act when it's under unprecedented levels of pressure from the Trump administration to crack down on the cartels The fear now is that violence

may continue to spiral as cartel members fight for power and battle for territory There are three people who are going to compete to become the new leader of the cartel and the political protection will go on Well experts warned the death of El Mencho alone will do little to disrupt Mexico's sprawling narco empires It is a very superficial way to attack the cartels and doesn't speak to a sort of more profound Deep extraction of their roots that are so deeply embedded in Mexico Facing

unprecedented violence It's now a question of whether Mexican officials want to go deeper or if the cartels are too rich and too powerful To truly be disrupted. This was kind of interesting First of all, I think we needed to clean up Mexico for FIFA for the World Cup You know, we got to clean that place up a bit But it seems like like 20% of Mexico is in some way in some shape or form employed by the cartels Have you heard this?

Yeah, I've heard that number and other numbers and it just seems as though is so embedded They want you want to just let the cartels bite each other to the death and let them take the country over Well, well, they seem to know, you know Yeah, there's rivalry once in Iraq and once in a while, but they you know, I've received different boots on the ground I won't read them.

But some people say, you know, everyone's happy get rid of these guys other people say, you know They come into the neighborhood. They take care like the mob, you know They take care of the kids bring candy for the kids flowers for the women You know, it's it cuts both ways and this guy was not an El Chapo kind of boasty guy.

He was supposedly a man of the people Man of the people no matter what the banks are gonna have some trouble Got no more money to launder for a while I think that may well from that group. Anyway, yeah from that group.

I Don't know any thoughts besides the fact that we clearly were helping I have no thoughts on I mean, I know the writing it was one-shot deal there was supposedly there was a couple of tick tockers online that are talking about it and I Don't I have no No, you know, it could be all bullcrap to me I mean I have no nothing Well, that is that's a that's not a great way to get into our second donation segment You need to say something funny witty or how about playing a clip?

Okay, one more Last clip for me.

This is the mystery school district story the FBI conducting a search on Wednesday at the home and office of a Los Angeles school official a Spokesperson for the FBI Los Angeles field office confirms that agents were at the headquarters of the LA Unified School District and at the home of Superintendent Alberto Carvalho a third location in Florida was also searched It's unclear what the investigation is about But the school district says it's cooperating with the investigation

and doesn't have further information at this time Carvalho himself and immigrants who had once overstayed his visa has been vocal about protecting students from ice Activity at schools.

He's been the Los Angeles Public Schools superintendent since 2022 Before that he oversaw Florida's largest school district for more than a decade the LA Unified School District is the nation's second largest with more than 500,000 students and covering more than two dozen cities The office of LA Mayor Karen Bass says it has no information about the search of the school district's headquarters Some sort of corruption Oh It's better than nothing yeah, and so we have

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I've been listening ever since thanks dad I eventually hit my now husband in the mouth and we listened to every show together That's why you're still together In fact, when we got married the first thing we listened to in the car and the way to our reception was the no agenda show Do you have kids yet tell us about that We started going to our local no agenda meetup in the central, Ohio in central, Ohio And now we have our own little troll room connections protection This is the best podcast in

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You both are a gift to this world I would like to be known as Dame Meg of the Massachusetts refugees I would like an iced coffee and a piece of I didn't actually put I can order that now and a piece of strawberry cheesecake at the round table and could I have so oh, there you go So they they need some baby making karma because that is and remember whatever happens this kid Has to be named after John and after me that is that is the rule it can be even if it's a girl It's after John and after

me You've got Karma You are added to the birthday list and we also got the iced coffee and a piece of strawberry cheesecake for you Going down the list William Gibbs, Atlanta, Georgia 105 35 Robin Tolbert, Topeka, Kansas 10333 I see what you did there hundred bucks from anonymous in Fredericksburg, Virginia Hundred bucks from David and Renee Mapstone in Spring Grove, Pennsylvania. Thank you both.

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Thank you, Gregory Alex Delgado aptos, California These are the 50s already No McDonald Traverse City, Michigan George who shit in Laverna, Texas Aaron Joyce in York, Pennsylvania Todd Myers in Diamond Head, Missouri 50 and finally Michael camera from Snohomish, Washington $50. I do see a number of 49 99 Mississippi I say what I say, Michigan. I met mr. You're saying Missouri for some reason Because I'm an idiot I think no some stuff It's miz.

Well, the first thing I when I see MS I think miz now and it's just it goes away from there and you should just say that miz miz now Michael Myers right now. We'll cut it in 321 Michael Myers from Diamond Head miz now 50 bucks and finally Michael cameras in a homeless, Washington $50 Thank you all very much for supporting the no agenda show and for those under 50 We don't mention you for reasons of anonymity, but you are appreciated. We see it all.

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So we say happy birthday to everybody here on behalf of the best podcast in the universe Got a layaway night to celebrate Nathan Klein He says thanks for all you guys do to keep my brain tuned appropriately You deserve more than I've been able to donate layaways work people I would like to be known as serendipity of the Ozarks and she started his layaway on July 29th, 2022 He would have reached his knighthood with his October 2025 donation But obviously continuing in my court,

she will continue to donate what he's saying beautiful So let's let's get our our Dame and our and our and our two nights up here John if you have a blade Yeah, I got a blade right here. That's beautiful I'm Nathan Klein. Also, we welcome Bob Newell and make CC all three of you are joining that illustrious group That is the group of no agenda nights and dames.

Thanks to your support of $1,000 or more and I'm very proud to pronounce the Kate the as-day Meg of the Massachusetts refugees Serendipity of the Ozarks and Robert Sir Robert of the Penfield for y'all We've got hookers and blow red boys and chardonnay lights camera and devotion now available on amazon .com gnocchi and cornbread iced coffee Strawberry cheesecake along with that.

We got bonnets and bourbon sparkling cider nestled ginger on gerbils breast milk and pavlova as always at the roundtable plenty Mutton to me Enjoy that and go to no agenda rings calm anybody can go to no agenda rings calm Take a look at those beautiful rings for nights and for dames Signet ring so we will accompany your ring in your size If you supply us with your ring size ring sizing guide on the website With some wax you can use that to imprint your no agenda ITM seal of approval there for

your important correspondents. And of course, it also always comes with a certificate of authenticity Congratulations and welcome to the no agenda roundtable. So tooth fairy sent his missed note Not sure we missed it, but something with PayPal You never know on Sunday $223 He says it no wasn't important, but I did have a suggestion for the show I made the proposal that you go back to doing the show. Hi Not for every show Okay, and he ends with god bless Thank you very much.

We'll take it into consideration for the next meeting. All right. Thank you very much I Think that's yeah, that's it. We can go on to the meetup Not sure why but I have a feeling I missed a meetup report somewhere So if I miss that today, then please send that to me. We'll do it on Sunday show We do have a meetup coming up this Saturday the Dallas Fort Worth mid cities.

It's back after the holidays Now this is an early one kicks off at 1130 in the morning at Chef points and it's sir nerd works who is Organizing that you need to contact him for details. Sounds like a Exclusive deal there also on Saturday the no agenda meetup for February at Jack's Brewery.

This is Columbus, Ohio That'll be at noon and another Duke of San Francisco birthday bash also on Saturday 333 at Connecticut Yankee in San Francisco, California Sir recalcitrant crazy Steve the second hosting. I don't know if you're planning on going John, but it's crazy Steve He does good meetups.

I'm just saying and we have another meetup on Saturday These things are popular the South Louisiana South Louisiana Bayou Brouhaha four o'clock at Fred's on the river and Prairieville, Louisiana Dame Mary moon is hosting that coming up in March We have Buenos Aires Argentina.

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No agenda meetups calm You It is always like a party Guaranteed these things are like a party and before we get to John's tip of the day and some dynamite end of show mixes We do have an ISO to choose We always do that at the end just as a little fun thing for ourselves Usually it's man against machine, but I have all humanoids for this particular ISO face off and I will start Ready? Yeah, how many got to?

Go these people are crazy nice, I thought it would be Actual and here's another one Amazing Well, I got some Trump too, that's funny what you got let's start with incredible I gotta tell you these guys do an incredible job. Yeah, it's a little bit better than mine.

Yeah, okay I also got Trump talking about donating Wow, what a great podcast donate Wait That's a I that's pretty good no that was on the I was on the speech you didn't hear it No, I did not hear that on the speech Well, if you didn't hear that because that was right with this one, which is the Freedom Award give John and Adam a Freedom Award Yeah, that's a little too kooky And then I went to the well and got Gavin Newsom to discuss Comparing his podcast to ours my podcast

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It's time for John's tip of the day I This is a simplistic very simple tip that I Was digging around I saw I should give this tip of the day people don't realize how important it is to have one of these things There are a buck or two. They're cheap And they're extremely handy for writing on anything that is just a little different like a wine bottle or I Use them to write Information like if you have a power supply And it's two volts so many amps.

I write it on the side using a and this is the tip a Silver Sharpie if you don't have I love silver Sharpies Silver Sharpies are the handiest thing I mean, I first discovered him back in this floppy disk era when you could write on floppy disks with him But but they're they're just handy for everything you should because there's a lot everything Do you know the people who make stuff out of plastic and is black? Yeah, you can't write on it. Do you want a silver Sharpie?

Do you know how many mixers I've written stuff on with a silver Sharpie? I've lost count You know you put the you know because the mixers are they never like correspond to the players and stuff and so and they or they have no numbers and so I'll Write down one through eight. Oh, yes, so that that is a tip I can agree with also handy if you have twins you can write on the forehead which one is Which one is which just a thought and what is the retail price of the silver buck 99 max?

You should get a six-pack and the six-packs are probably you know less than it probably eight bucks or so They're terrific product Outstanding product everybody another fabulous tip of the day get them all at no agenda fun calm tip of the day you Sometimes Adam created by Dana Brunetti. Yes, okay?

We're done that doesn't mean that the party stops because right after we're done John I start talking about what we're gonna do on Sunday because we do this for you We do not conform to the ways of this world We do not let ourselves be captured by people who think we should say something we don't believe in it No, we do this because we are the truth truth I tell you At least it's what we believe and we've been pretty right in 18 years Coming up next on the Noah Jenna stream

we have ah a the latest episode of grime Erica make sure you catch that we have End-of-show mixes from ID pop we got Paul Revere, and we got MVP, and they are dynamite So enjoy that and we'll be back on Sunday coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill country right here in Fredericksburg Texas where we've got lots of good wineries come visit us and make sure you leave on time in the morning everybody And from Northern Silicon Valley where we still demand accountability I'm John C. Dvorak.

We'll be back on Sunday Please join us for at least three hours of media deconstruction and remember us at no agenda donations comm until then adios mofos I Think you're talking to a human being, but it's actually a robot.

I mean you can be a robot Now here's a little story I got to tell about three Democrats that you know so well It started way back in history with a very old and me Joe B Then had a little honey named Abedin just me and my honey and a fifth of gin Riding across the land kicking up sand pulling higher than Trump Cuz I'm in command one lone Democrat I be all by myself without no bodies no opposition since we threw out Joe The race is getting vile the gin is getting low looking for a win I ran

into a guy his name is Barry. Oh, I said, howdy he said You've got the gym you've got two choices of how you can win It's not a tough decision as you can see you go on your own I said, I'll ride with you If you can cover up one detail the feds are after me for what I did with my email I hit it like this. I hit it like that.

I hit it with a wiffle ball bat So we're on the trail the feds got my mail and right about now I need a cocktail the Queen H Rod that is my name and I know the fly spot where they got the champagne We rode for six hours and we hit the spot and we met up with a man that the world Forgot this dude was staring like he knows who we are. We took the empty spot next to him at the bar Very Oh said you know this guy. I said I didn't but that was a lie Ready because this is no joke.

My name is Joe B. And you know, I'm provoked held out his hand and looked us in the eye He yelled hold my finger and let two fly Customers gagged as they hit the floor two kids passed out while they ran for the door I'm Joe B and I get respect the presidential nominee is what I expect But you chose to shut me out of the race you ignored my seniority and threw it in my face My role doesn't slow my fuel doesn't stop I pour gasoline on my corn pop Joe beer rambled away Barry O

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