1831 - "Donroe Doctrine"

I'm only a dime bag of potato chips. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Sunday, January 4th, 2026. It's your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination episode 1831. This is no agenda. Bathing in warm collectivism. And broadcasting live from the heart of the textile country here in FEMA Region No. 6 in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley where they're all crying to bring back Maduro. Hello, I'm John C. Dvorak. It's crackpot and buzzkill. In the morning.

Yeah, finally something good happens that's not on a show day. That was good. That was well-timed, Mr. President. Yes. And, and, right after the oil baron called it, everybody picked up on that. Hey, man. Trump must be listening to you guys. He might be. It was hilarious. No, this is good. Everyone's checking in. Hey, what do the boys have to say about it? I have a ton, too many, I have way too many clips on this. Well, you do.

And I've gotten, I've gotten the, I caught it right at the beginning, luckily. Because it was, I was working on the newsletter and could have easily have missed it. Because it took, it was fast. I think this is, they grab the guy, they make a lot of explosions. No, no, no, no, they didn't grab him. They captured him. Words matter. Captured. Kidnapped. Extracted is the way I saw it, but we'll get to that. I, you know, I was thinking the same word.

I was going to bring it up, but you beat me to it, which is, was it an extraction? I think so. I think so. There's a lot of things to this. And the reason why I say extraction, I don't know if you saw, there was some video that I caught of him, of Maduro being walked down some hallway in New York. And he's like, hey everybody, happy new year. Now, of course, that could have been AI, who knows. But it looked authentic. And I'm thinking he's going to spill the goods on Smartmatic and Dominion.

You know, that would certainly get him a better deal. Yeah, and he can prove the 2020 election was rigged. Yes, yes. Boom, he's good to go. That's what I thought would be an interesting one. But the thing that really bothered me about all of this is our, even Marco Rubio, and when you've gone through your clips, I have some of the stuff from the morning shows from this morning, from Stephanopoulos and Manhans Welker with Rubio, who is good.

I mean, Rubio is just, he is very good when it comes to talking. He's amazingly slick. He is very slick. Well, he's another one. He's a performer. He was, you know, a dancer. Yeah, he's a dancer. Yes. He's another tiny dancer. The thing that bothers me is that no one ever explains the simple history. And I'm going to give you a little audible, a spoken word history from like 1990.

It doesn't take very long because when it comes to what this really was about, and I'm pretty sure we can both agree that there's a lot of North Sea Nexus stuff that's in here. What are the British banking connections? You know, what are the real drug flows? All of that's going to be interesting. The Smartmatic software, Dominion voting machines, and yes, the oil. And the president just, I don't know why he, I mean, he could do it. He could just explain how they stole our oil.

But instead he just says this. We're going to run the country until such time as we can do a safe, proper, and judicious transitions. We're going to have our very large United States oil companies, the biggest anywhere in the world, go in, spend billions of dollars, fix the badly broken infrastructure, the oil infrastructure, and start making money for the country. We build Venezuela oil industry with American talent, drive, and skill.

And the socialist regime stole it from us during those previous administrations, and they stole it through force. This constituted one of the largest thefts of American property in the history of our country. Absolutely true. But no one explains it. Rubio doesn't explain it. Hegseth can't explain it. He's just going, F around and find out. Am I first? Yeah. Okay. We like that. We got all the ladies all, oh, yeah, oh, he's a tough guy. The news media won't tell you, of course.

So let me just give a quick, brief rundown, interject if you hear I said anything wrong. But I think it's, I mean, because this goes back to 1976. But if we stay in 1990. Actually, it goes before, it goes actually way back. It's a 45, 47 or something. It goes way back. But in 1990, U.S. oil companies, Chevron, ConocoPhillips, and ExxonMobil, they decided we're going to invest in production, in extraction, production of this.

I mean, I've seen video, this really thick, tar-like oil, which it's just goo, man. It's classic Brent. It's goo. Yeah. All the stuff that comes out of the ocean typically looks like that. And it was a really big risk. At the time, oil prices were around $40, $50. They varied one year to the other, but on average. So, they set up, Venezuela set up PDVSA, and they signed the contracts with these three big companies. With massive investment in the Orinoco belt. And the deal was pretty simple.

Venezuela has 100% ownership over the oil, but we do a 60-40 split. So, American companies get 60%, and Venezuela gets 40. And then they put up the billions of dollars to set it all up. Everybody was happy. Especially in 2000, oil prices start rising. It's at 100. And then Chavez, the predecessor to Maduro, he declares the Bolivarian Revolution. And, hey, everybody, we're super socialist now. We're going to give you everything for free. Sound like Mandami. It's going to be fantastic.

It's groovy. 2001, they implemented new laws, and PDVSA is now control of operations. They kicked out the U.S. management. In 2002, this is the Venezuelan petroleum company. The employees actually protested and went on strike. They said, you can't do this. Companies that refused, there was only one, really, I think, Chevron, had all their assets frozen. Everything was taken over. And then oil revenues collapsed by 75% because no one knew how to operate this stuff.

Even better, Chavez broke the strike, fired 18 ,000 engineers and rig workers, and he changed the split 70% for us. Some say a little less, like 28%, but around 30% for the U.S. companies. But we're also doubling the royalties, so you've got to pay us 30% royalties. And there's a 50% tax rate on everything you make. So they were losing money. 2007, Chavez seizes all the oil assets. These companies could only file lawsuits, and they went to international courts.

And they eventually won after five years, but they got about a billion dollars each. It was no good. Everyone lost their shirts on it. And then the PDVSA oil company becomes bloated, mismanaged, rife with corruption. Production has now fallen to less than 25%. 2013, Chavez dies. In comes Maduro, a literal bus driver who had worked his way through the system. He was Chavez's handpick. Yeah, but the guy was a bus driver. So these social programs, they're not doing so well with this lower revenue.

So they start printing money. Ultimately, this number over time was mind-blowing to me, 1.3 million percent inflation of the Bolivar. So Maduro, of course, would be like, well, I've got to diversify. Let's get some drug money in there. Now, in 2002, it's bad news for Maduro because oil just went down in the tank when he came in. It was like a perfect storm. 2002, ExxonMobil scores big in Guyana right next door. No one's mentioning this, really.

2023, Maduro says Esquibo region, that's actually ours, and moves troops to the border. And in 2025, just as Trump gets in, he's ratcheting up the heat. He's like, we're taking over. This is Venezuelan territory. And, you know, and so we didn't really cover much of this, but it was happening. And so, of course, you know, Trump's like, no, you're not going to, you already stole the first batch. You're not going to steal anymore. And that's really what it is because we need it.

Isn't diesel made from this stuff? Is this the kind of stuff you make diesel out of? No, you can make diesel from anything. But is it cheaper to make it from this? Not really. It's a tough product. You need special refining to work this stuff. For one thing, you need cracking. Cracking? Yeah, you need to crack it. Because normally with regular crude, you can just run it through it. Especially if it's super light, you can run it through, you distill it and you get all the different cuts.

And the cuts are gasoline and diesel and kerosene and all the rest. But it's quite a process. To get the heavy duty stuff busted up so you can distill it, you don't distill it heavy. You run it through a cracker, which is

a big, giant, it's catalytic, it's usually catalytic cracking. And you run the stuff through platinum and a bunch of other things in it. And it busts it up into a liquid that's a little more refinable. And that's the expensive part. Not that anyone cares, but that's pretty much it. Meanwhile, what's been happening is China and Russia, they're all getting oil from there. It was hilarious to see the Chinese delegation just hours before they capture Maduro.

And the Chinese are like, all right, we're out of here. We got nothing to do with this. You know, people have pointed out that this was like the Chinese always, they do this constantly. They don't want to get involved. No. And they gave a number of examples of this. But the one they keep forgetting, which we bring up on the show, is the one in Libya. Yes. Where they had this whole area. They were building up these big buildings and everything. And they just took off. You're still there.

We don't want to. And they're very non-confrontational, the Chinese. So I will say January 3rd. This actually comes from our, I have a new contact, former five, former six, not sure yet. She's a producer. She listens. I think she's, I know she's a spook, but I'm not sure she's MI5 or MI6. I believe she's retired. She said, coincidentally, January 3rd is significant. 36 years ago, Noriega surrendered to U.S. forces after hiding in the Vatican Embassy, flown to Miami on drugs charges.

Same date, January 3rd. Trump likes significant dates. So I thought that was an interesting observation. Also, just earlier, let me see, when did this happen? I think it happened December 1st. A U.S. judge authorized the sale of shares in Venezuela-owned parent company of Sitco Petroleum to Elliott Investment Management for $5.9 billion. This is, what's the guy's name? He's a big Trump donor. Who's the, I forget his name now. When did this deal go through? This happened December 1st.

Elliott Investment, man, hold on, let me just check. I had it written down here somewhere. It's, when I say the name, you go, oh yeah, yeah, that guy. Who we are, here we go. What's this guy's name? Paul Singer, there you go. Oh yeah, Paul Singer. Paul Singer, big Trump donor. But he knew something. He clearly knew something. Well, I mean, it was a court case, so maybe they waited for it. I don't know.

They said that they had this ready for five or six weeks, but maybe they waited for that to be cleared up just in case. But I think the next, and we'll get into your clips now. I think, and whenever you want me to play some stuff from the morning show. Well, I'm going to have you play something right now since you just mentioned Paul Singer. But I don't want you to finish, I don't want you to finish yet. In other words, you've got more to say.

But because you played Paul Singer, play this Paulie Market clip. Paulie Market. Looks like we have another Nancy Pelosi on our hands because last night before U.S. forces captured Venezuela's President Maduro, someone placed a bet on Paulie Market that that was going to happen, and they won big. This Paulie Market account that was created less than a month ago in December yesterday bet $30,000 that Maduro was going to no longer be the president of Venezuela.

And then overnight, the U.S. captures him, and this user comes up on a fat $400,000. What are the odds? Now, because of the Stock Act in 2012, elected officials do have to report their stock trading activities. But Paulie Market is a big fat loophole. Under the Stock Act, elected officials have to report stocks, bonds, ETFs, and even crypto assets. But because Paulie Market's a predictive betting app, well, it falls into a gray zone.

2026 goes, I'd say keep your eye on Paulie Market for any insider trading versus the stock market. Who do you think made this bet? As always, let me know down below. Why are you yelling at me? Is that a news clip or is that a TikTok thing? It was on Twitter. This girl follows this stuff, and yeah, it was a prop bet. Well, I think we need to pay attention to Trump's dates. That goes back to our MI6 lady. January 3rd, Trump likes special dates. I like that. Maybe it was her. Maybe it was her.

I don't know. Well, she brings it up for a reason. I mean, why is she telling me this? Well, she likes the show, and we're also fed the information for the purposes of bringing it up on the show. She loves the show. I think she's actually a dame, to be honest about it. I won't say who she is, but I'm pretty sure she's a dame. Well, it's not that we're not fed. We're not read in. We should mention to people that we do amateur work. We're not read in. We're not read in. No agenda show.

We're amateurs. It's not a bad thing. We're not read in. No, we're not. But we can deconstruct. Oh, we are fed. Yes. But we know we're fed, so don't worry about it. Yeah, we're fed, fed slop. There you go. So the next 96 hours, of course, are going to be crucial. And then I have clips for later about what they're saying and who's running it, what's really going to happen. You know, I'm sure it appears that the Venezuelans are very happy. Ding dong, the witch is dead. But they're hungry.

And here's the interesting thing that I stumbled upon. So the U.S. dollar basically is the currency in Venezuela. People are using it because the boulevard is, you know, Weimar Republic status at this point. Yeah, it's junk. But the U.S. government. Actually, it switches something called the real. Well, everything I found is that people are just using U.S. dollar bills, 10s, 20s, singles, fives. Yeah. Well, if you have the opportunity, that's what you do.

But they actually, starting in COVID days, there was a pilot by U.S.D.C. That's a stable coin via the Treasury and the State Department for the Heroes of Health program. They bypassed Maduro's regime banking system to send millions of dollars. I think it was six or seven million dollars directly to the digital wallets of 60 ,000 doctors and nurses. Who were using the system. And I'm thinking this might be a great moment to launch the stable coin. It's already been launched.

Well, but the stable coin gambit, I don't think it's really been launched that way with the Treasury, with the government's endorsement and selling new Treasury bonds, short-term bonds against it. And if anything, the rails are kind of in place. You're right. But it just may be an airdrop. Hey, Venezuela, we're going to airdrop you some tokens. I don't know. It feels like a like a perfect storm.

So you've got analysis, all kinds of stuff from from the days leading up to today's show, which, let's be honest, was one. Mostly came from yesterday. One day. One day. So hit it. And then whenever you're ready, I'll jump in with some of the the morning shows. Yeah, I think you definitely have the morning stuff is going to be good. Let's start with the overview by going to Maduro Grab on PBS. There are moments in time when history possibly pivots.

And today, in a stunning act of regime change, the U.S. military captured and brought Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro to U.S. soil. Not long after that, in a remarkable declaration, President Trump announced the U.S. would, quote, run Venezuela and warned of a new era of United States domination over Latin America. We will get an on the ground report from Venezuela's capital, Caracas, in a moment. But we begin our coverage with Nick Schifrin.

It was just after midnight over Caracas when U.S. helicopters with Delta Force soldiers descended toward Nicolás Maduro's compound. Nearby residents filmed and cowered from U.S. strikes on at least four locations, all part of the mission to capture and extract Maduro. By 2 a.m. local, they had him. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Did you hear that? So first they used the bogus regime change, but then. All part of the mission to capture and extract Maduro. Extract. They used the E word. They used the E word.

The mission to capture and extract Maduro. By 2 a.m. local, they had him. And by 3 a.m., he was shackled aboard the USS Iwo Jima, the dictator-turned -detainee of the U.S. Department of Justice. U.S. military officials said U.S. helicopters took fire as they left Venezuela, but remained able to fly. A source familiar tells PBS NewsHour a small CIA team arrived in August and created extraordinary insight into Maduro's pattern of life that made grabbing him seamless.

So first of all, kudos for the Nat Pops on PBS. Well done. And this was a Nat Pop extravaganza. It was just perfect. Even the president was saying, I watched it on TV. It was like a TV show. It was great. It was awesome. I think you'll never see it, but I saw it. It was good. And what was at the very end of that clip? What did he say right here? A small CIA team. Oh, yeah. The CIA guys, from what I understand, they had infiltrated Maduro's inner circle.

Yeah, that's the only way they could figure out where he was. So, interesting that the CIA might be cooperating now, these days? I think the whole thing is a CIA deal. Oh, most of it has to be. And I think, I suggested in the last show that there was a cooperation going on. Well, they've been living in the region for 50 years. They never left. No, but the CIA has always been, some of their superior work has been in South America. In quote, air quote, superior work.

Well, it depends on what you mean by superior. Depends on where you are, yes, exactly. But the Guatemala stories, where they pretended there was a, you know, they somehow got the hold of the media and convinced everybody that the soldiers, the forces were coming and nobody was showing up, but they abandoned. Good job. Good job, spooks. In this case, they, yeah, they, I think, and I think they're at work. And it comes out in some of these clips that they're at work doing some other stuff.

And I'm now thinking they're at work. I'll bring it up later in talking because I got a nasty note from somebody, a Canadian. Well, hello. Well, yeah, I did complain. Canadian. About our Alberta. Oh, interesting. So I think the CIA may be in Alberta. And they're probably in Greenland. Well, there's not much to do in Greenland. Hang out, fish, tell people to let the Americans buy them. It's just a thought. I'm sure there's nobody. Maybe. There's one or two. Okay, I'm with part two.

This was one of the most stunning, effective and powerful displays of American military might and competence. In Palm Beach today, after he and his team watched the operation unfold overnight, President Trump announced the operation was not only about regime change. We are going to run the country until such time as we can do a safe, proper and judicious transition.

President Trump said Secretary of State Marco Rubio had spoken to Venezuelan Vice President Del Cid Rodriguez, who was sworn in to replace Maduro. She had a long conversation with Marco and she said, we'll do whatever you need. I think she was quite gracious, but she really doesn't have a choice. But at least publicly today, Rodriguez rejected that. We demand the immediate release of President Nicolás Maduro and his wife, Celia Flores, the only president of Venezuela is President Nicolás Maduro.

Now, time for the thumbscrews. She's not, that's not what she's cooperating. Well, you don't know that this wasn't a set up to, you know, so she can keep the people in line around her. Possibly. She can't, you know, because she's surrounded by a bunch of stooges that are, that would shoot her. Torturers and all kinds of bad actors that Maduro has accumulated as part of his drug cartel. And so she has to play bad girl, at least in front of that audience.

So I take all this with a grain of salt one way or the other. I love the trolls. She's Sephardic as well. Okay. Yeah, I'm sorry. Forgot to mention that Netanyahu ordered this strike. Yes. Forgot to mention Israel's behind this. Sephardic. Yes. Yeah, straight up trolls. That's it. And that's exactly what's going on. If the best analysis you can do is everything's Jews, you might as well just, what's the point of even listening to our show? Well, just doing it to do it. What else?

You know, when you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail. On to the final clip. And President Trump made clear part of the plan was to take Venezuela's oil. The country has the world's largest oil reserves, which the U.S. helped develop exactly one century ago. But former leader Hugo Chavez kicked out some U.S. and other foreign energy companies. And today the industry produces a fraction of its capacity. We're going to be replacing it.

And we're going to take a lot of money out so that we can take care of the country. But the president made clear today was not only about Venezuela. This was about displaying an ability and willingness to enforce regional domination and embracing the early 19th century declaration by President Monroe to block foreign colonialism in the Americas. They now call it the down road document. I don't know.

Under our new national security strategy, American dominance in the Western Hemisphere will never be questioned again. Rubio made clear the next possible target. Yeah, look, if I lived in Havana and I was in the government, I'd be concerned. And to critics who question whether a president who was elected in part to avoid foreign entanglements. Why is running a country in South America America first? Well, I think it is because we want to surround ourself with good neighbors.

We want to surround ourself with stability. We want to surround ourself with energy. We have tremendous energy in that country. Regime change, not for democracy, but for energy and for its own sake. As the question tonight in Caracas and perhaps around the world. Now what? Well, let's just address this for one second. The oil baron who is 60 percent gas, 40 percent oil. He says this is not good for us.

He says oil is going to drop even further, which surprise, surprise, is good for America because that lowers prices on everything. In theory, I mean, I don't think grocery prices actually ever go lower ever, but they could. They fluctuate enough so that it's noticeable. This might be a good time to just bring in one clip from Manhans Welker on Meet the Press with Marjorie Taylor Greene about the America first question. I think it's a perfect time.

President Trump says he gets to decide what America first means. Does America first mean whatever? Wait, wait, wait, stop. When did he ever say that? Did Trump come out and say? I don't think he said that. Well, she just claimed that he did. Well, you meant to say she falsely claimed. She, you're right. You're exactly correct. I meant to say she falsely claimed. Yes. In fact, she played that very clip.

And that's her extrapolation by saying, well, the President Trump says he gets this tells us he gets to say what America first means. But we know that that this is America and the Don Roe doctrine. They call it, you know, Don Roe doctrine is hilarious. And he made it up himself. I didn't hear anyone else say it until he said it. You know, they say it's the Don Roe doctrine. I don't know. I don't know. I agree. I agree. That's totally his creation. That's how he does it. He loves alliteration.

He's my guy. All right. So he determines what America first is. Let's hear me. Marjorie Taylor Greene, who was there with their big doe eyes and all happy to be on. Meet the press. President Trump says he gets to decide what America first means. Does America first mean whatever President Trump says it does? What a loaded question. This is like this is disgusting. Yeah. Well, but it also shows you Marjorie Taylor Greene, who I think is a nice lady, but she is she's dumb.

She doesn't even see beyond. You know, she doesn't see the implications of what this really can mean. She's not a dimensional thinker. Yes. Yes. You know, America first should mean what was promised on the campaign. Well, you won't be able to hear it if you're if you're doing. I'm sorry. I've only had to make that sound once. You can do it again if you want. So my understanding of America first is strictly for the American people, not for the big donors that donate to big politicians.

Yeah. Well, yeah. Well, first of all, the oil company, she sees that as big donors. And I guess they don't employ Americans. I guess, you know, it's not not part of the American economy. She just doesn't see it that way. She wants grocery prices lower and rents lower, which. Yes. But you can't just wave your magic wand. Not for the special interests that constantly run the halls.

Well, the silver guy, of course, and and the the poly market guy, you know, they won big Washington and not foreign countries that demand their priorities put first over Americans. America first actually means for the American people and the American people have been put last consistently decades and decades by both both political parties for far too long.

My kids generation, my kids are 22, 26 and 28, are looking at a future where this whole entire generation doesn't think they'll ever see a Social Security check. They don't believe they'll ever be able to afford to own their own home. And 50 year mortgages are really a slap in the face. It's insulting. Americans don't want two thousand dollar stimulus checks as a payoff.

They want to have good policies brought forth for them because you want to know something, Kristen, they voted for this administration and their small dollar donation should matter. And MAGA has its own enemy list and the enemies of the worlds are not on their enemy list and they're tired of being ignored. You're right. She's not she's not a multidimensional thinker. And I have three daughters, 29, 30 and 35. And yes, they see it as rather dim, but they're not they're not afraid of this.

They're not even thinking of Social Security checks. And now here's the difference. The 29 and 30 year old, they can actually afford rent. Now, they they're not anywhere in house buying mood and that's unfortunate. But I think what we see and we'll see coming this year, the president's going to do something with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. That rumor has been out there for a long time. That may change things.

Rents may actually go down, which will also lower house prices as we've removed the incentives for illegal immigrants to be paid, bought and paid for by states and other. Yeah, that's yeah. Other criminal subsidies. But the one who's 35 in Rotterdam, she literally, you know, she cannot find a two bedroom apartment for the simple reason that the rule now is and she basically would be in social housing, which is, you know, up to like 2000 euros a month. But in order to to get that, she can pay it.

But you have to show that you earn five times the monthly rent. Well, no, she doesn't make 100000 euros a year. And so that whole Europe is really not Europe first. America is still doable. This, by the way, is the biggest complaint I got from my little rant on the zoomers versus boomers. Yeah, but we can't buy a house. Well, no. You got jacked. Absolutely. My dad bought a house for twenty twenty thousand dollars in 1990.

Yeah. But his has probably what was his monthly payment at 19 percent interest. So, yeah, it's not great, but I think that the president does have some plans to change. That chronology is off the pick. OK, what do you mean? Well, the high interest was in the late late. It really peaked. It ended around 1980, not 1990. By 1990, the interest rates are way down. Twelve percent. I had it. I don't think so. I had a 12 percent mortgage in 19. Well, you got shipped. There it is with a balloon payment.

With a balloon payment. Yeah. So, yes, that's a problem. But, you know, it's Marjorie Taylor Greene makes it sound like, oh, it's the end of the world for everybody. You know, easy does it. It's not great. But, you know, hardships, every generation has its hardships. And I think I think the president has some plans for that. Anyway, maybe could I just play a couple of Rubio clips from this morning because it addresses these things and then we'll get back to your clips.

Or do you want to play another series? I don't know. Why don't you play the Rubio clips first? And that gives me a better feeling of what clips I should go with. Okay. So, man, I have way too many. Me, too. I thought the Manhans Welker was better because she just she you know, she's a straight talker, man. She sits down. She asked the tough questions right away. Are we at war? Thank you so much for being here. I want to start with this big picture question.

Is the United States now at war with Venezuela? There's not a war. I mean, we are a war against drug trafficking organizations. It's not a war against Venezuela. We are enforcing American laws with regards to oil sanctions. We have sanctioned entities. We go to court. We get a warrant. We seize those boats with oil and that will continue.

And we will continue to reserve the right to take strikes against drug boats that are bringing drugs towards the United States that are being operated by transnational criminal organizations, including the cartel de los Souls. Of course, their leader, the leader of that cartel, is now in U.S. custody and facing U.S. justice in the Southern District of New York. And that's Nicolas Maduro. So we made a big progress in that regard.

By the way, thank you, Alberto Guru, who says, can't afford a house but drives an $80,000 four-wheel truck, spends $500 a month on cell plants, Internet and streaming, DoorDash, partying, drugs, etc. Yeah, there's that. Yeah, there's that. There's that. So who's going to be running the country? Come on, Marco. Mr. Secretary, who is in charge? Are you running Venezuela right now? Yeah, I mean, I keep people fixating on that. Here's the bottom line on it is we expect to see changes.

By the way, this question is never answered by anybody. And it's because the president said, we're running it. Yeah, Marco and Pete and everyone, they'll be taking care of things. That's why this question is a problem and goes unanswered in every interview. I don't understand why they let it go unanswered. Well, here's his answer. You know, fixating on that. Here's the bottom line on it is we expect to see changes in Venezuela. Changes of all kinds, long term, short term.

We'd love to see all kinds of changes. But the most immediate changes are the ones that are in the national interest of the United States. That's why we're involved here, because of how it applies and has a direct impact on the United States. OK, we are not going to be able to allow in our hemisphere a country that becomes a crossroads for the activities of all of our adversaries around the world. We just can't allow it.

We can't have a country where the people in charge of its military and in charge of its police department are openly cooperating with drug trafficking organizations. We can't. We're not going to allow that. These are these things are direct threats to the United States. And we intend to use every element of leverage that we have to ensure that that changes.

The one I would point everyone to is that our military is helping the Coast Guard conduct a law enforcement function, which is not just the capture of Maduro, but the enforcement of our sanctions. We go to court, we get a warrant, we seize the boats. And we think that's this tremendous leverage, incredible, crippling leverage, which we intend to continue to use until we see the changes that we need to see that are a benefit to the American people.

And by the way, we believe to the people of Venezuela as well. It doesn't really answer it at all. Now, here's now. Now, of course, this was a good question. Good answer. So why aren't you working with Machado? President Trump said the administration is working with Maduro's vice president, Delcy Rodriguez. Why does the administration oppose working with the opposition leader, Maria Corina Machado? She's a Nobel Peace Prize winner, of course, as well. She should run the country.

Her coalition has the support of 70 percent. She did win. Yeah, no, she did win. But, you know, I just like when you say she's a Nobel Peace Prize winner. Well, I am a podcast Hall of Fame awardee. I should be running the country. Why not work with her? Well, a couple of things. First of all, Maria Corina Machado is fantastic. And she's someone I've known for a very long time. And the whole movement is. But we are dealing with the immediate reality.

The immediate reality is that unfortunately and sadly, but unfortunately, the vast majority of the opposition is no longer present inside of Venezuela. We have short-term things that have to be addressed right away. We all wish to see a bright future for Venezuela, a transition to democracy. All of these things are great. And we all want to see that. I've worked on that for 15 years on a personal level, both in the Senate and now as national security advisor and secretary of state.

These are things I still care about. We still care about. But what we're talking about is what happens over the next two, three weeks, two, three months and how that ties to the national interest of the United States. And so we expect to see more compliance and cooperation than we were previously receiving. With Nicolas Maduro, you could not make a deal or an arrangement, although he, by the way, was given very generous offers.

He could have left Venezuela as recently as, you know, a week and a half ago. There are opportunities available for him to avoid all of this because he's not someone we can work with. He suckered the Biden administration into stupid deals. He's made a career out of not keeping deals and figuring out how to save himself by buying time. And we were not President Trump was not going to fall into that trap.

This is interesting that I guess no one really believed the national security strategy document because it was clearly spelled out. Well, I have a clip about one of the analysis clips talks just about that specifically. Let's do that. Let's do your clips. Yeah, let's let's. This is the Maduro. This is CNN Nationals at NSS. Oh, wait, there's this one Maduro. CNN brings in an SS is a two parter. Again, back to Jim Shooter, our chief national security analyst.

What do you see in all of this at this stunning moment? Well, Sarah, remember when this administration released its new national security strategy just a couple of weeks ago and folks were reading it and wondering, is this a serious document? Does it indicate a major shift in U .S. foreign policy or is it largely political? Who had a hand in it, et cetera? I was just reading through some of the language for the first time.

And one of the clear headlines was, in general terms, threats in our own hemisphere, the Western Hemisphere. Wow. They're just now figuring out that's what it said. Oh, yeah. You know, I went back and I did some research. Are more important than those elsewhere, whether that be Europe. Read that as Ukraine, the war in Ukraine or Asia. Perhaps read that as Taiwan.

That here that involve not just regimes or governments that this administration views as their adversaries, such as Nicolas Maduro, but also problems that they view as top of top of their list. Drug trafficking, migration flows, et cetera. And here we see that that document was quite serious. Right, Sarah, that that that shift is a little laughter in there. We see there was quite serious. And here we see that that document was quite serious. Right.

That that that that that is playing out before our eyes doesn't mean that the U .S. withdraws from from Europe or Asia, but it is certainly more aggressive in its own backyard. And then you begin to think beyond this project underway. The Venezuela project, the U.S. running the country. And we're about to see, as you say, the leader of the country walk off that plane, perhaps in handcuffs and a blindfold.

Or is what does it mean for the Cuban regime, which is also an adversary of the Trump administration? Or even it's a little different because Greenland is run by an ally. But Greenland is a place that President Trump has said that's in our backyard. I want it. Yeah. Hello. Get a clue. I'll play. Well, I'm I'm throwing Alberta, Canada into the. I like that. I don't have any clips about it, but I like it. Well, the thing about it is like we're talking about our hemisphere, our backyard.

What is more? And if we really look at this as a subterfuge for grabbing oil, you got Alberta over there sitting there with this. It's the same thing. They're not producing anything because the Canadian government won't let them. So let's go stir up some shit, get them to go independent. And we got it made. We have the CIA go do that. Now, of course, the guy who wrote the nasty note to me and mentioned, well, you know, Mark, Mark Carney, what is Canadian? OK, let's get this straight.

Mark Carney was born in Canada. Yes. He was educated at Harvard and Oxford. He is the central banker, central banker. First, he was a central banker in Canada. Then he went to the U.K. and became a central banker. Then he became a U.K. citizen, but dual citizen. Then he's also got some Irish connection with some crazy Irish that are also kind of nexus types. And let's be honest, there's a lot of Irish running a lot of things. And he's got. So he's a triple citizen.

And then when he became the prime minister of Canada, he rebuked the other two citizenships that he already says he did. We don't know for sure. And so, OK, he's Canadian, but he doesn't like the United States or he's part of some banking combine. We don't know. But the point is, this guy was telling and he's just a very nasty note. Wow. You're really upset by this. Welcome to the club. Not upset at all.

But it brought to the fore this thing, this Alberta thing, because it was like we're full of crap about this Alberta thing. And I was reminding me, if you can remember this far back, this has to be 15 years ago when we first grabbed on to Farage. Yeah. Somebody wrote in this for you guys are often the deep end here. Farage is no good. He's just a clown. He's never going to amount to anything. You'll never hear from him again. You guys are embarrassing yourselves. Was it the same guy?

No, it could have been. It probably was the same guy. So this guy is saying so. So he says this about Alberta. And I'm thinking, wait a minute, because when you start listening to these clips about what the CIA is up to, they could easily be in Alberta causing, you know, getting handing out doughnuts. You want a nonstop supply of these every single day, Albertans. You want more doughnuts.

But the thing is, from the clips I've seen, the Albertans, they're like, yeah, we'd kind of like to be part of America. That's the way it seems to me. I mean, that could be the long term goal. I personally think they should be an independent country. They could probably pull that off. Like Puerto Rico, kind of a protectorate. Puerto Rico is part of the United States. Yeah, but it's not a state. They could be a protectorate. Oh, that's an interesting, I never even thought of that.

You get a passport. You get your doughnuts. Get your flag. Get your MAGA hat. Good to go. Welcome aboard. Interesting idea. That's actually, that might actually work. A clip, too, on the NSS. How far is the U.S. willing to go now to change the leadership and control of other places and countries in our hemisphere? So that, you know, the next strategy wasn't just an empty document, apparently, because of what we're seeing on that tarmac in Newburgh, New York right now.

Well, allow me now to play a clip from Rubio where this question came up about Cuba. Is the Cuban government the Trump administration's next target, Mr. Secretary? Well, the Cuban government is a huge problem. Yeah, the Cuban government is a huge problem. So is that a yes? But I don't think. Oh, yeah. Kristen, they always want yes or no questions. Is that a yes? Are we going to take over Cuba? The Cuban government is a huge problem. So is that a yes? But I don't think people fully appreciate.

I think they're in a lot of trouble, yes. I'm not going to talk to you about what our future steps are going to be and our policies are going to be right now in this regard. But I don't think it's any mystery that we are not big fans of the Cuban regime, who, by the way, are the ones that were propping up Maduro. His entire like internal security force, his internal security apparatus is entirely controlled by Cubans.

One of the untold stories here is how, in essence, you talk about colonization because I think you said Dulce Rodriguez mentioned that the ones who are sort of colonized, at least inside the regime, are Cubans. It was Cubans that guarded Maduro. He was not guarded by Venezuelan bodyguards. He had Cuban bodyguards in terms of their internal intelligence, who spies on who inside to make sure there are no traitors. Those are all Cubans. That was interesting.

Yeah, the whole country is filled with a bunch of aliens, Cubans and Hezbollah and all these other groups. But it's interesting that Cuba was basically the intelligence apparatus for Maduro. Well, they didn't do a very good job. But who runs Cuba? I always thought that was Russia. Don't they still park their boats over there? I think Russia's kind of backed away. Well, you know, the story now that's out there is Trump did a deal. Putin gets Ukraine and we take Venezuela. They got a deal.

Sounds a little simple minded, but yeah. So let's go through this analysis. We do an analysis on because Machado was brought into the conversation. Why? Here's the Maduro CNN analysis on Machado, the Nobel Peace Prize winner who actually should have been president of Venezuela. What are you learning? I've been speaking to the Venezuelan opposition about their reaction to this. Who is this? Who spoke with the opposition? Who according to Rubio or not?

One of the spooks that comes in and does analysis for CNN. Rubio said they're gone. They're all out of the country. Yeah, most of them. Well, OK. So you talk to. They're in the country, too. But if you're you know, but they're not in plain sight. And I'm told that the opposition leader Machado has been in touch with governments across the world following this operation. That includes the government of France, President Emmanuel Macron.

But also and this is crucial governments in Latin America, Argentina, Ecuador, Panama, Paraguay, who I'm told have shared with the Venezuelan opposition their shared desire in, quote, restoring the will of the people. I think this is important, Sarah, because here is the opposition saying that they are getting support from other countries for the opposition's role in the future of Venezuela post Maduro.

And that's, of course, crucial, Sarah, because as you and I were speaking earlier, President Trump in his comments from Florida earlier today seemed to leave that question open. Right. He said the U.S. will be running the country. He raised some questions about the degree of support that Machado has in in the country of Venezuela, which is crucial, given that it is the wide view of observers of the most recent election that Machado actually won and not Maduro.

That would give presumably and certainly in the eyes of many countries in the region around the world legitimacy to her claims to leadership in any sort of post Maduro government. But the opposition saying here that they are in touch with governments around the world and getting that kind of support. Right. As I said, therefore, restoring the will of the people in the country of Venezuela.

But at this point remains very much an open question as to what the process will be to decide who leads the country next and where the U.S. will be in that process. Who will it support? Right. And does that include the opposition? He's saying a lot of right because he doesn't know what he's talking about. No, he's just rambling. But but Trump had nothing. You know, he didn't say much about Machado being taking over. And then he said that she didn't have much support.

And I think what he's referring to is the fact that they dropped her into the government. They just shoot her because she doesn't have any support from the goons that are really still at the top of the of the pyramid. You know, what's interesting by omission in this whole story? Where's J.D. Vance? He's nowhere. He's not. He's doing dances. He's got a lot of weight. He's got long hair now. Have you seen these fat J.D.? Fat J.D.? He's floating around. He's on the net.

But also, I'm waiting for Besant. Scott Besant has to do. I mean, money has to come in somehow. And they must. But this is like Rubio's op. Well, he has to have a plan because, you know, there's still drug cartels, drug lines, money laundering, all of that still in place. So they've got to be they've got to have some kind of plan for this, because I'm pretty sure you take 96 hours. And if people aren't seeing some bread, they're going to they're going to go nuts.

Yeah. Well, maybe that's what they wanted to do. So so there's all this discussion about Machado. And so I luckily caught Sky News is the only only group that actually put her on the air. Oh, wow. OK, let's listen to that. So I have a clip of her talking. So we get so she's not like, you know, just a character in the ether. This is Machado on Sky News explaining whatever she's explaining. Some people talk about invasion in Venezuela and the threat of an invasion in Venezuela.

And I answered Venezuela was has been already invaded. We have the Russian agents. We have the Iranian agents. We have terrorist groups such as Hezbollah Hamas operating freely in accordance with the regime. We have the Colombian guerrilla, the drug cartels that have taken over 60 percent of our populations. And not only involved in drug trafficking, but in human trafficking in networks of prostitution. So this has turned Venezuela into the criminal hub of the Americas.

And what sustained the regime is a very powerful and funded, strongly funded repression system. Where does that funds come from? Well, from drug trafficking, from the black market of oil, from arms trafficking, for human trafficking. We need to cut those flows. And once it happens and repression is weakened, it's over. Because that's the only thing the regime has left, violence and terror. So we asked the international community to cut those sources.

Because the other regimes that support Maduro and the criminal structure are very active. And have turned Venezuela into the safe haven for their operations into the rest of Latin America. Yeah, I'm pretty sure we've got CIA all over the place. We've got OFAC. Is that it? The OFAC? The Office of Financial Affairs. They've got to be looking at everything. And I just want to say that there's such a simpleton idea out there. It's in the troll room too. It's about the oil, man.

They just want to steal the oil. Well, first of all, that is in fact our oil refineries. We just talked about that. That was stolen. All these weak presidents did nothing about it. And yeah, that's American sovereignty. That's our stuff. We had a deal. Yeah, we had a deal. We had a deal. So yes, it's about the oil. And we will sell the oil to everybody who wants it. But that money flow going into these corrupt networks, I think the North Sea Nexus has got to be somewhat worried at this point.

Like, whoops, are they tracking us? Do they know where it's... I mean, they probably got lazy throughout the years. Oh, absolutely. There's no question about it. That's what happens with everybody. It's what you do. But it's so... You get lazy. Oh, you know. It's so strange to see people with so simple minded. I mean, even people I like from the UK. It's like, why pay for the oil when you can just steal it? Hashtag bullies. That's a good one. Hashtag bullies.

A friend of ours knows a plastic surgeon who was on vacation on some Caribbean island, you know, Ufi or Ifi, I don't know what it is. And he was like, oh, great. Now I can't fly home because of Trump's private war. It's like the ignorance of people, the non -informed, just not even... You can even get some of this from Wikipedia. It's not that hard. But people just take spoon fed crap from TikTok and Instagram reels and X, put a bikini on it. And like, oh, I'm good to go.

I know what's happening. Trump is no good. Oil just wants the oil. It's disappointing is what it is. Our education system has failed us. This has been your lament for 18 years. Yeah, probably right. Then this was kind of funny. The protest groups, they sent them all out into the streets with freshly printed signs right away. All right, everybody, we got new signs. Help us hammer them onto the sticks. It's all from the signs of the Party for Socialism and Liberation. I got one clip.

I have one, too, after you're done. I have Chicago. What do you have? Would you have Chicago? I got Baltimore. Oh, OK. Here's Chicago. Cold temperatures did not deter a strong show of support at Federal Plaza in the loop on Saturday. As demonstrators took a loud, invisible stand against U.S. intervention. And by the way, every single person you're going to hear is white, has a nose ring, has a red beanie on, is holding a socialism pre-printed sign.

In Venezuela, the violence that we saw last night was completely ruthless and we cannot allow this kind of violence from our government. Several local Chicago groups issued an urgent call for an emergency protest following a controversial operation that led to the detention of Venezuela's President Nicolás Maduro and his wife, with Trump asserting that the U.S. government would step in to run the country.

President Trump claims Venezuela's oil has funded drug trafficking and other crimes, using this as justification for intervention. It doesn't matter who does or doesn't support Maduro. It's completely outrageous and against international law for the U.S. to attack him. Where was your protest when they nationalized our oil companies? Where was your international law then, you twerp? Try to unseat him.

You can say that the Venezuelan government hasn't been great, and I'd argue that's probably true. But I would also say that going into another useless war, abducting someone seems morally unquestionably wrong. The protest spilled into the streets as demonstrators voiced opposition to foreign military intervention, defended Venezuelan independence, and blasted what organizers described as an illegal and dangerous escalation. Yeah, all right.

I guarantee you, I guarantee you there's a smartmatic angle to this. This guy looked happy. He was like, oh, God, I'm safe. Take my wife too, please, please, please. Okay, we'll bring her too. And the kid. They got the kid, they took his son. They captured a son as well. Yes, absolutely. Trump is no dummy. He knows what he's doing. It's going to be fun to watch. All right, Baltimore. Demonstrations in Maryland today. I'm sorry. What? I said I'm sorry. Oh, it's okay. Apology accepted.

You should say my bad. I'm never saying that. Demonstrations in Maryland today as residents and lawmakers rallied against the U.S. military operation. Scott Macione from Member Station WYPR has more. After the Trump administration's surprise attack in Venezuela, protesters converged on Baltimore's City Hall. Rachel Vicara of Baltimore's Party for Socialism and Liberation, Baltimore's Party for Socialism and Liberation, Baltimore's Party for Socialism and Liberation, helped organize the protest.

There is no shortage of needs that the people in the U.S. face. We want these taxpayer dollars to meet people's needs ultimately and not destroy other countries on behalf of, in this case, oil executives. Maryland U.S. Representative Johnny Oshkoski, who serves on the Foreign Affairs Committee, says he's deeply concerned by President Trump's comments that the United States will run Venezuela. Oshkoski says he and other members of the committee are pushing for a briefing from the White House.

This was actually on the podcasting 2.0, Mastodon. I shy away from politics, but someone sent me a DM and I said, hey, man, go look at the history. They stole these companies from us. And what happens is the lefty's favorite word is whataboutism. Yeah, well, haven't we just done bad deals with people? Read your history, moron. There's kind of a new guy there. Who is that? Come on, man. This is a new guy. He's a new guy. He's a friend. I blocked him. I've now gotten into blocking.

I'm in the JCD school. It's just, it's like you answer someone. Block. Block. I'm going to block you. There's no time for this. I'm too old now. I'm old. I'm a boomer. I'm a boomer. Two more tips and I'm done. I'm out of here. Yeah, boomer block. Let's start with the last two. One is the analysis from NPR, but I also want to get this one in. They're both from NPR, so let's start with the basic. Maduro, important analysis, NPR.

Okay. Franco, where in this puzzle does Machado, Maria Corrino Machado, who just won the Nobel Peace Prize, a leader in the Venezuelan opposition, where does she fit? A wildly popular opposition leader. Interestingly, though, Trump did not throw his support behind her. Here's what he said about Machado. I think it would be very tough for her to be the leader if she doesn't have the support. Trump said she is a very nice woman, but that she just doesn't have the backing of the people.

Some strong, profound statements about the opposition leader. Let me turn you to oil and how oil fits into this, because President Trump had a lot to say about the oil reserves, how they're going to foot the bill for everything going forward in Venezuela. I don't think he actually said that, actually. I don't think he said that. No, he didn't say that. Read the significance of that. I mean, it's very significant.

I mean, we didn't hear much talk about reestablishing democracy in Venezuela during this presser. Frankly, we didn't hear that that much talk about drug trafficking either. Which was the initial premise for all of this, we were told, going after drug votes. Go on. Exactly. Go on. Oh, she's doing a CARA. She's doing a CARA. Go on. I heard that. When I heard that, too, I heard that when she did it, and I said, ah, Adam's going to catch it. Go on.

Talk about reestablishing democracy in Venezuela during this presser. Frankly, we didn't hear that that much talk about drug trafficking either. Which was the initial premise for all of this, we were told, going after drug votes. Go on. Exactly. The focus today was largely on oil. Venezuela, of course, has some of the largest oil reserves in the world. And let's be clear, U.S. involvement in the Venezuelan oil industry would be a huge, huge deal.

Though reestablishing it would be wildly expensive and a really long-term project. And it's also kind of unclear as of now which companies would undertake this challenge. Now, Trump claimed that it would not cost the U.S. any money because he expects U.S. oil companies will happily invest billions of dollars to rebuild Venezuela's oil structure. But the reality is that oil, or at least he says, the oil would then be extracted and sold for a profit to benefit

both Venezuelans and the U.S. Now, he says the U.S. troops may be necessary to protect the oil, but he is not afraid of U.S. boots on the ground. And that is a tremendous statement for President Trump considering his aversion to military intervention in the past. Ah, boots on the ground, boots on the ground, boots on the ground. Boots on the ground. This is a lot of conjecture. I mean, NPR is actually way behind on it. I looked at all my clips and NPR was behind CNN in so far as the quality.

But so this is my last clip is NPR and it's there. This is the Maduro China. This is the China reaction, which was mocked by everybody because China, you know, is not just based on what they did in Libya. They hoofed it. It's what they do. They hoofed it. You know, we got other things to do with our time. We're not getting involved. We can't take care of this. You were out of here. Best price. We out.

China says it's warning its citizens not to travel to Venezuela and says it's closely monitoring the situation in that country where China was the biggest buyer of Venezuelan oil. NPR's Emily Fang has more.

Although Venezuela contributed just a tiny fraction of the oil China imports for the South American nation, China was its primary customer, ferrying sanctioned oil from Venezuela to small refineries on China's east coast on what analysts term a shadow fleet of ships left unregistered or with their trackers off in order to evade sanctions. Over the last few weeks, Beijing has been outspoken against U.S. strikes on boats in the Caribbean.

And on Saturday, China's foreign ministry said the U.S.'s seizure of Venezuelan President Maduro and his wife were, quote, hegemonic acts and strongly condemned the attack as a violation of international law. No. OK. Russia also had a strong statement. They don't care. They put out a strong press release. Yeah. Can we still buy? That's the question. I got a clip from just about the drugs. I got a clip from France 24. They have a journalist who I guess is boots on the ground in Venezuela.

And here's what she had to say. I think that every Venezuelan was surprised, even the military, the military and personal, even the whole statement of the government. There is not one person in this country which could have been aware of what's what was going on. Even the response was kind of late for what was happening. Most of the electricity went down. Even cell phone carriers went down.

So it was a very confusing situation at the moment, even for the government and for Venezuelans, of course. The drugs smuggling and trafficking allegation has been broadly covered by private investigations, by international and independent media. But since I am a journalist and I haven't seen the proof in my hands that, in fact, Maduro was smuggling drugs, I will be very conservative to say that, to assert that this is a fact.

I mean, even the Americans are asking or demanding to Trump to present the proof because this operation was not a minor thing. This was a very expensive and a very dangerous operation, even for military, for U.S. military personnel. So there's no proof. There's no drugs.

The indictment, you know, the one thing that is not being discussed, which is the indictment, which is allows by using the second Article two of the Constitution allows Trump to do all this, no matter what anyone likes to think about it being unconstitutional, is the indictment. Very clearly points out all they have been capturing audio tapes, tapping his phone. It's been going on for years. Everyone who's looked at the indictment against Maduro says it's ironclad.

And I put a copy of said indictment into the show notes. Everybody can read it for themselves. So this woman is a stooge, whoever she is. Well, France 24, that's that's the the nexus is out there like, oh, we don't even know the drugs, but we can go back to 1989. I love it when these clips pop up. When Joe Biden himself spoke on behalf of the Democrat Party about the necessity, the necessity to go in and stop the scourge of drug networks.

Every president for the past two decades, Democrat and Republican alike, has declared war on drugs. And each of them has lost that war and lost it miserably. They lost because they attempted to deal with only part of the drug problem. They lost because their initiatives were pulled apart by bureaucratic squabbling among their advisers. They lost because they always did too little and they did it too late. We don't oppose the president's plan. All we want to do is strengthen it.

That's President Bush at the time. We don't doubt his resolve. All we want to do is stiffen it. The trouble is that the president's proposals are not big enough to deal with the problem. We think we should do more to stem the flow of drugs across our borders. And we think we should go one step further. Let's go after the drug lords where they live with an international strike force. There must be no safe haven for these narco-terrorists. And they must know it.

We have to lock up the dealers for a long, long time. And we have to attack the source from which the drugs come. And we have to do that, not a piece at a time, but all at once. And we have to do it now. And there's not any reason why we can't do that. We have the power. We have the money. And we have the knowledge. My, how things change. Where was the outrage? Using Joe Biden's old clip. Because back in the day when he was erudite, he could actually speak. He never stuttered, by the way.

No, he's a stutterer. He's a stutterer. He's a stutterer. His whole life, stutterer. He never stuttered. He was straightforward and very clear. And so you don't want a president like that. Let's wait until he's into total dementia and can barely talk or move or figure out where he is. Then let's make him president. That's what we do. What kind of thinking is that? Go back to Face the Nation. This is CBS with Margaret Brennan.

And this is Senator Chris Van Hollen with a little extra detail on the details. Yeah, Van Hollen is the guy, as you recall, is the guy who went down and met with the Maryland dad. Yes. Brega Garcia had margaritas at the cafe. So Chevron, an American oil company, has been operating in Venezuela throughout, and they told CBS yesterday that they continue to work there. My understanding is there are hundreds of Americans working and living in Venezuela still. This is true.

Chevron is the only company that continued to hobble along. Reportedly, there are at least four who have been detained by the regime, the regime that remains in power here. You are on Senate Foreign Relations. What do you know about the detained Americans? What can you find out about how they're doing? I've not gotten an update from the administration on those detained Americans.

Months ago, I did work to secure the release of an American, a Marylander, who we now have back in Baltimore, Maryland. I think the administration is looking at those detentions currently ongoing in Venezuela and determining how many of them are wrongful detentions, how many that they don't think are wrongful detentions. But certainly my view is we should work to bring back every American who is wrongfully detained overseas.

I think this is going to complicate that effort, what the Trump administration just did. Oh, it's going to complicate it. Okay. How's it going to complicate it? So now let's go to Rubio with Stephanopoulos. Just a couple clips here. It's all about the oil. We're joined now by the Secretary of State, Marco Rubio. Mr. Secretary, thank you for joining us this morning. President Trump was pretty clear yesterday. He said the United States is going to run Venezuela. Under what legal authority?

First of all, what's going to happen here is that we have a quarantine on their oil. That means their economy will not be able to move forward until the conditions that are in the national interest of the United States and the interest of the Venezuelan people are met, and that's what we intend to do. So that leverage remains. That leverage is ongoing, and we expect that it's going to lead to results here. We're hopeful that it does.

Positive results for the people of Venezuela, but ultimately, most importantly for us in the national interest of the United States, we will no longer have, hopefully, as we move forward here, we'll set the conditions so that we no longer have in our hemisphere a Venezuela that's the crossroads for many of our adversaries around the world, including Iran and Hezbollah, is no longer sending us drug gangs, is no longer sending us drug boats, is no longer a

narco-trafficking paradise for all those drugs coming out of Colombia to go in through the Caribbean and towards the United States. And obviously, we want a better future for the people of Venezuela. We want them to have an oil industry where the wealth goes to the people, not to a handful of corrupt individuals and stolen by pirates all over the world. Pirates. That's what we're working towards, and we intend to use the leverage we have to help achieve that. George, ask him again.

Ask him who's running the place, man. Let me ask the question again. What is the legal authority for the United States to be running Venezuela? Well, I explained to you what our goals are and how we're going to use the leverage to make it happen. As far as what our legal authority is on the quarantine, I'm very simple. We have court orders. These are sanctioned boats, and we get orders from courts to go after and seize these sanctions. So that's, I don't know, is a court not a legal authority?

So is the United States running Venezuela right now? Well, I've explained once again. I'll do it one more time. What we are running is the direction that this is going to move moving forward, and that is we have leverage. This leverage we are using and we intend to use. We started using already. You can see where they are running out of storage capacity. In a few weeks, they're going to have to start pumping oil unless they make changes.

And that leverage that we have with the armada of boats that are currently positioned allow us to seize any sanctioned boats coming into or out of Venezuela loaded with oil or on its way in to pick up oil, and we can pick and choose which ones we go after. We have court orders for each one.

That will continue to be in place until the people who have control over the levers of power in that country make changes that are not just in the interest of the people of Venezuela, but are in the interest of the United States and the things that we care about. George. George. Where? George. George. Sorry, George. I hit the wrong button. You've got him on the ledge, man. Ask him again. Let me ask the question again. What is the legal authority for the United States to be running Venezuela?

Well done. Well, I explained to you what our goals are and how we're going to use the leverage to make it happen. As far as what our legal authority is on the quarantine, I'm very simple. We have court orders. These are sanctioned boats, and we get orders from courts to go after and seize these sanctions. So there's that. I don't know. Is a court not a legal authority? So is the United States running Venezuela right now? I can't stand it. Well, I've explained once again.

I'll do it one more time. What we are running is the direction that this is going to move moving forward. And that is we have leverage. This leverage we are using and we intend to use. We started using already. You can see where they are running out of storage capacity. In a few weeks, they're going to have to start pumping oil unless they make changes.

And that leverage that we have with the armada of boats that are currently positioned allow us to seize any sanctioned boats coming into or out of Venezuela loaded with oil or on its way in to pick up oil. And we can pick and choose which ones we go after. We have court orders for each one.

That will continue to be in place until the people who have control over the levers of power in that country make changes that are not just in the interest of the people of Venezuela but are in the interest of the United States and the things that we care about. This is going to be the number one thing for the next two weeks. I see it right now on the quad box. I see, oh, there's General Wesley Clark. He says U.S. is running it, running the policy. Who's running it? What are we running?

Who's running? Who's got the ball? Who's on first? Who's running it? Well, I think it's interesting that Rubio can say the same exact thing almost word for word three times in a row. Yeah, thinking that Stephanopoulos will come up with a better question. And Stephanopoulos could not push it. Well, you know, it's not just coming up with a better question. It's the way he, I don't know, it was very poorly done. Stephanopoulos is not that forceful an interviewer.

I mean, he can ask the same question over and over and over, but he's just lax about it. You know, you have to do it. You have to twist it a little bit differently. You got to find some angle because he's going to get that same rote answer. Very rote, by the way. In fact, he walked off the set. They went, you sure asked him, didn't you? You know, the funny thing is, it's interesting how Rubio is more the politician by a long shot than Trump is.

Trump in that situation would have said, that's a nasty question. You're a nasty, nasty reporter. You're fake news. You're a horrible journalist. You're horrible. How did you even get this job? That's what he would have done. Last question. Chevron is the only American company working in Venezuela right now. Only American oil company working in Venezuela right now. Have you gotten commitments from any other U .S. oil companies to go in? Well, good question, George.

I haven't spoken to U.S. oil companies in the last few days. But we're pretty certain that there will be dramatic interest from Western companies, non-Russian, non -Chinese companies. We'll be very interested. Our refineries in the Gulf Coast of the United States are the best in terms of refining this heavy crude. And there's actually been a shortage of heavy crude around the world.

So I think there will be tremendous demand and interest from private industry if given the space to do it, if given the opportunity to do it. And that will spin off tremendous royalties for the people of Venezuela, to benefit the people of that country. Not the handful of people at the top, but the people. And, you know, that can happen. There will be interest. I haven't spoken to the companies since all this has happened. I'm certainly aware of who they are.

And I have spoken to Secretary Wright and Secretary Burgum and others. I know they'll soon be sort of taking an assessment and speaking to some of these companies. But I don't have any concerns that there won't be interest. There will be tremendous interest. If it can be done the right way. These stupid Democrats. Now I see on Ms. Now, Debbie Wasserman Schultz. Yes, we have an emergency call with the leaders of the Democrat Party. We're on this emergency call.

They're doing an emergency pod right now as we speak. I got some calls yesterday. Hey, no agenda needs to do an emergency pod, man. No. That'll be the day. Wow. Emergency pod. Yeah. And then the final clip is the president was asked about Colombia. And that was kind of a similar answer to Cuba. Colombian President Gustavo Petro, you know, a couple weeks ago, he said he's got to watch his ass. And today he said he's not concerned about anything happening to him in the aftermath of this operation.

So just what your message is. He has cocaine mills. He has factories where he makes cocaine. And, yeah, I think I stick by my first statement. He's making cocaine. They're sending it into the United States. So he does have to watch his ass. Tough guy. He's got to watch his ass, man. But it's fascinating to see the media just, you know, this is going to be their next thing. Oh, unconstitutional. Oh, we didn't we didn't notify Congress. All of this stuff. And everything else falls by the wayside.

The Jews are no longer talked about. Israel is no longer talked about. Epstein no longer talked about. It's just completely just like a tidal wave over everything. And again, I think the next I think by Thursday we'll have to have a pretty good idea of what their plan is in order to to quell any any issues in the region. I don't think so. You don't think so? I don't think so. I don't think they're going to get to the to clarify. I don't think it's going to be clarified by Thursday. I just don't.

I just see it as being a slow moving process. And I base that on Rubio mostly because of his, you know, repetitious answers. He's not giving us any insight whatsoever. No, the misdirection of Cuba is bull crap. We're not doing anything with Cuba. Let's face it. Why not? Because what's our rationale? The rationale with Maduro is that he was under indictment. And they're shipping drugs out of there, left and right on these boats. And we can take action. What is Cuba doing?

So it's just a misdirection? It has to be. And you got Rubio who is Cuban. So it makes it sound like he's a tough guy. I think the next target is either going to be Mexico. Mexico is the real target. You want to misdirect from that because they have issues. They have more issues than Cuba. They're right on our border. We're not doing jack with Cuba. And Alberta. Alberta is going to be a ramp up to October when they have the voting.

And it would be whether the Canadians, you know, the Canadians can be talked out of this because they're wishy-washy, generally speaking. No offense to our Canadian listeners, but, you know, you're kind of wishy-washy and you complain a lot. I got a note about Canada. One second. But the Canadians are, you know, they tend to be up on current events. And it's possible that they could vote to be an independent country in Alberta. It would be a shocker.

And the Canadians kind of like to be or slight troublemakers. And this would be like a perfect example of doing it right. Canadian Tim, I think he's Canadian, checked in. He said on the last episode, John had an aside where you're talking about open AI hiring in a role that admits liability, just like how you should never apologize when you're in a car accident, which it was a valid point. And he says, well, this will sound like a joke, but it's not.

In Canada, because everyone is so apologetic, we actually have laws on the books that state explicitly that an apology is not an admission of liability. And he links to the statute S09003, effect of apology on liability.

An apology made by or on behalf of a person in connection with any matter does not in law constitute an express or implied admission of fault or liability by the person in connection with the matter and does not, despite any wording to the contrary in any contract of insurance or indemnity and despite any other actor law void, impair or otherwise affect any insurance or indemnity coverage for any person in connection with the matter and shall not be taken into account in any determination of

fault or liability in connection with that matter. Well, about those Canadians. It's very Canadian. Yes. I thought so too. Like, well, that's interesting. Yeah. It wouldn't be a bad law to have here because people do like to apologize for getting into wrecks. But if you do it, you're asking for trouble in the United States. It's an admission of guilt. Why did you apologize, sir? You knew you did wrong. That's why you apologize, right? You just don't apologize for everything.

You don't apologize for somebody punching you in the mouth when they punch you in the mouth. Do you say, I'm sorry? Yeah. Well, the Canadians, they're on it. I got a distressing note from Bill, Strokey Bill Walsh's longtime friend, Stephen. He said, well, he sent me a note out of the blue. He said, I'm pretty sure it was your show that Bill was always raving about, if I'm not mistaken. Do you remember Strokey Bill? No, I do not remember Strokey Bill. Well, you do.

He did several best of shows, and he would always send long emails about how we were stupid, and XRP is great, and all this stuff. Oh, he's the XRP guy. Yeah, he was. He passed away December 19th. Yeah, and he said, your show really had an impact on Bill, and he loved listening to you. And this, for me, because I had a very kind of, I'll say, hate-love relationship with Strokey Bill, because I thought he was a douche most of the time.

But it reminded me that the people who are the douchiest are actually the ones that love us the most. Yes, and I'm taking that into account. Yeah, I think there's some truth to that. Yeah, so we're sorry. And I prayed for him, and I hope he's in Jesus' arms, and he's in a better place. And I know he had a wife, and I don't know if he had kids, but I feel sad that we lost Strokey Bill. So I have a clip that I moved from the last show. This is a New Year celebration.

This is kind of a roundup of different parts of the world and what they were up to and this and that. And there was a little tidbit in this thing, and I thought it would be worth playing, because I would like an explanation for it when it's finished. Light shows, fireworks, and cultural traditions. From the South Pacific to the East Asia, celebrations are lighting up the night. NTD's Christina Corona brings us some highlights.

The New Year began in the South Pacific, the first to say goodbye to 2025. Sydney, Australia kicked off 2026 with fireworks sparkling over the city's landmarks. An hour before midnight, the celebration paused for a moment of silence honoring the victims of the recent Bondi Beach attack. In Taiwan, thousands gathered at Taipei 101 for a six-minute fireworks display synchronized with music and a light show.

Over in Hong Kong, fireworks over Victoria Harbor were replaced with a light show in the Central District. Officials replaced fireworks after a deadly November fire, turning eight buildings into countdown clocks for a three-minute show themed New Hopes, New Beginnings. In South Korea, more than 10,000 people gathered at Seoul's Bosingak Pavilion for the annual bell-tolling ceremony, with civic representatives striking the bronze bell 33 times. Whoa! What? Whoa. What's that about?

Yeah, and that's in Korea. Hmm. Yeah. Well, I'd like to know what that's about. I would like a Korean to explain to me what the significance of 33 in Korea is. And please don't send us emails telling us your discovered theory about 33. We've heard them all. They're all different. We have. They're all different. Yeah. Every single one of them is different. Yeah. Wow, that is interesting. I have no idea what that's about. Of course, end of the year, so lots of lists are coming out.

This one popped up on the radar. Words and phrases we should no longer use. Yeah. You'll like some of these. Every year, Lake Superior State University in Michigan puts together a tongue-in-cheek roundup of overused slang. This one really hits the nail on the head. The viral 6-7 tops the list. The term demure came in second, followed by cooked, massive, incentivize, full stop, perfect, and gift or gifted. Rounding out the top ten are my bad and reach out, which also made the list in the 90s.

I'm going to tell you what. If you say my bad instead of I apologize or I'm sorry, it doesn't count. Yeah. Agreed. You've always had a problem with my bad. Yeah, it's grammatically stupid. Yeah. I like full stop, which is also Tucker's period. I don't think that can be done anytime, period, period. We just can't do that. Yeah, I've always been annoyed by full stop. Yeah. Why would you throw, you're talking to somebody and say full stop. What? Full stop. Yes. Full stop.

I pointed this out on the last episode. France is now doing something about it. It's horrible. When she posted her holiday outfit on X, this young woman did not think that she would end up naked on the internet for the past few days. You just have been asking Grok. I sent you. Did you get any of that in your time? Yeah, you sent me a couple of these. The funny thing is the number of fat JD things I've been getting is up to like 10 a day.

Yeah. And I still have yet to get into the groove to get any of the bikini things, except the ones you sent me. Oh, well, that's interesting because of course, you got to click on them to see all the variations. No, I clicked on it, but I didn't click. You have to click a lot, but once you get on the groove and the fat JD stuff where he's dancing and he's playing the guitar, he's doing solos. He's sending people on, on tampon rockets. Hey, we can, we can do a combo.

Can't we say put fat JD in a bikini Grok? Wow. That's a good idea. I think that's the combo that should be next. X's generative AI chat bot to undress women and sometimes even minors without their consent. For Marion, this was a violation of privacy. It's really upsetting to see this. You wonder why would anyone do that? When do you decide to do that to people? You don't even know on social media. I think there have been about 30 cases.

By the way, she posts a very seductive picture of herself on social media by itself. A dumb idea. Why are you doing that? Why? What is the point? I'm sounding like you now. What is the point? Why are you putting these pictures on social media? I look hot. I mean, here's a picture of me with my new hair. Here's a picture of lipstick on. Here's a picture of me standing there. Here's a picture of me and my dog. Here's a picture of me and my cat. Here's a picture of me, me, me, me.

Look at me and my boyfriend. Don't we look beautiful? Wow. Not your life. Wow. Look at this. Look at the fireworks in the background. Oh, we're eating caviar.

Oh, we're so awesome it's fabulous our life is great this is what you get it hurts to see yourself like that it's not my body but it looks similar and then people can reuse the image anywhere she reported it to the platform but some images of her naked are still online instances of free and accessible AI that are stripping women and men of their clothing are on the rise here a user asks the chatbot to put this young woman in a bikini victims have been advised to report illegal content on the

platform as well as to authorities this is interesting because Elon Musk is now posting anyone who puts up illegal content will be banned and con and the authorities will be contacted and everyone's like well what is illegal content what exactly is illegal content could you please codify that for us which is as far as I know has not done for a party can't of course not ministers and members of Parliament have also reacted outraged by requests made to grok AI to strip girls and

women while the image is artificial the harm is very real the courts must examine excess criminal liability this is something new because there is no jurisprudence in France on this issue yet so it's excellent that the courts are taking up the case another victim has launched an online petition calling for greater regulation of generative AI the US Federal Communications Commission did not immediately respond for comment while the Federal Trade Commission declined to comment for its part

an X AI representative responded legacy media lies legacy media lies man this is modern media she should say we ever lie she should say this thing sucks I'm much hotter than that in a bikini but no no it's it is so rampant I'm surprised it hasn't really shown up to your timeline no it does not show up in my feeds at all yet hmm that's but I'm getting a lot more besides the debt the JD Vance doing all kinds of moves I'm getting a lot of pretty obscure AI movies you know

all kinds of just poorly done some of them yeah Trump shooting up the place well worth the 1.3 trillion dollars I see more and more now that local municipalities and city councils are blocking data centers left and right it's become quite a thing that even Microsoft is now kind of saying well you know yeah the rollouts a little harder there's we have about 20 cases people don't want it they don't want these data centers near them any no in fact the one that

they're building the fusion reactor they're building in Washington State Microsoft which is not going to work which is going to actually be a negative number when they're done getting it when they've if they even started it's got to be a fiasco I got a note from J confusion on fusion then I will read it and then you can respond since I don't know anything about this other than the videos that I've seen that show it's all gonna work oh yeah videos are great I've

been working on promoting fusion energy for years now and have tried to help your confusion in the past yes tritium and deuterium fused the deuterium is easy the tritium requires refinement or processing like pulling it out of the heavy water at Hanford for example or processing lithium to get tritium the main thing you are missing is the two different types of fusion reactors the tokamak design is most popular in Europe and the US it uses magnets

in a theoretical containment system is much smaller in scale think one tokamak reactor for one data center the fusion reactor technology proven out by Lawrence Livermore labs and now merged with Trump's TAE through TAE uses giant laser systems the containment system for an industrial size scale reactor is the last leap required think of these fusion reactors for an entire region of the country I have met with the head of Princeton fusion labs professor Cowley to prove

out the Berner BOER NER Berner fusion future plan for the nation that's the guy I ran for president the inside word is I have not been able to verify is that the MIT plasma scientist was working on a containment solution I was pissed when I heard about the Trump merger because it privatizes the effort instead of using the US Department of Energy so that the American citizens own it this technology can take the US from a superpower to a hyper nation and eat the

horrendous inflation we've had the Berner plane was plan was amazing you were contacted early in the effort which was several years ago well the good before you react the good news is my buddy works now at the Department of Energy in Colorado and I'm going to ask him and he will give me as much as he can now your take on these different systems I don't have it take on the different systems there are different systems they were they're all claimed to work and

I've seen no evidence of it well that's all I can say is that this is like a great idea I mean I would be terrific if they get fusion to work in other words take less energy to make it start up as opposed to how much right now the problem is it takes more energy to it's like it takes twice as well not twice as much but it just takes even a fraction more energy to produce less energy so you spend a bunch of energy to get less energy but you keep saying you can do that but you keep

saying the startup so once it started once it's running no it no it's a continuous well that makes no sense so you have to use that let's say 1.1 X to get 1.0 out and yeah you can take that 1.0 out and recycle it and put it back into the to the making the making the containments feel work or whatever energy you need but it's you're still now you're your down point one no it there's no effort unless somebody shows me some documents I've never seen one that shows

that it takes less energy if you can put in just like a half amount of energy then you get twice as much out you know fine this is you know for me this is the flying car thing people keep sending me videos look it's a flying car it's here and I'm like no it's not no it's not you go to the website it will fly for 35 minutes at 4 at 25 miles per hour what good is that and you won't be able to fly it without a pilot's license well in America would you have a light sport but

you're not gonna be able to fly it from Fredericksburg to Austin a you won't make it be you've got a recharge forever you can go by yourself no baggage Tina what Tina gonna drive with the backup car with a battery in the back no all of these things are toys the only one that's kind of there is that French guy what's the French guy good French guy let me find the French guy he really had just a back to fusion so I can finish it off that's that's my concern and yeah

there's different technologies that the tokamak is the big deal and so and there's this other thing this helium-3 device that the Microsoft's gonna build they're not unless I've never seen any evidence these things were could work at all they would be built by now well we'll have to see four more years we'll figure it out it's the air scooter by Zapata the French guy Zapata oh that air scooter yeah no the demos are dynamite what's what's different about that is he has a

little engine on board which powers the supplies continuous electricity with so basically a hybrid to the little rotors but that thing is like an egg one person he and he flew it across the English Channel a couple months ago crashed into the channel we're not quite sure what happens but that thing is cool but you know not for three hundred thousand dollars none of it's everyone's drone crazy like oh but I could fly the drone and then and I could sit in the drone

no none of it's going to work it's you know you just look at the specs of these things yeah well you can you can fly for you know literally 25 minutes some go 40 miles an hour what is that we're gonna tootle around town I'm landing I'm reminded of these these things are faddish and I'd put fusion into the same category as faddish although it's a long-term fad but the faddishness do you remember the faddishness where everyone had the ultralights yeah and they

get in this little didn't weigh anything and they had a little motor in the back and I don't even know if he had a light need a light they're they're actually better than any of this stuff they still yeah well but they were all still crashed and we used to have a bunch of them in the Bay Area I've never seen I haven't seen one for ten years when when they was very faddish I used to see two or three we have a guy at church what's his name a kit k -i-t-t and he still has metal

plates throughout his body because he crashed one of them in Fredericksburg a couple years ago yeah and then they did the fad before that were these auto gyros those are cool I would love an auto gyro and those were very popular in the 70s I think they are one of the safest ways to fly but it's not an it's not an eVTOL you still need a runway to take so a couple of companies have tried to make rotable gyrocopters I have flown a gyrocopter I'm very interested in it no one has

quite gotten there except for the the V pal which is the Dutch guys and they've and but it's it's like this big thing it folds everything in it's this huge thing you know maybe it fits in your garage you drive you're driving with it's a three -wheeler I'm gonna drive to the airport like an idiot whoa and it's two people with you know a little overnight bag you might as well one-seaters and they don't go very fast they go about 90 miles an hour yeah but it looked when you see

one flying around I haven't seen one for a year broomstick you're talking about the broomstick yeah they look like I'm going like a bat out of hell to me no they top ninety nine but well usually only about ten feet off the ground these guys will fly him well now they have there's a few a few new ones out that have seven-hour endurance and three people closed cockpit side-by-side in the back air-conditioning an auto gyro yeah really I mean but you know $400,000 well you might as

well buy a secondhand airplane at that point there's a bias what is the real benefit other than safety because they are very safe engine quits you just float down to the ground you know so yeah that was if a rotor breaks but then you you float faster to the ground with all these drone things to what well it can fly with one rotor out what if two are out well you're dead no sorry that's no good well then we have the parachute we had the ballistic parachute which is an extra $20

,000 I I look into all of these things and none of them does the ones that get the most traction is that which you know they say oh we're the first ones to get a certified flying car I think it's a Mueller Mueller Mueller that Mueller that guy he the first time this guy has been doing this on a cycle of about a six seven year cycle since I was a kid oh wow really the first time I reported this when I was actually editor of Info World he was one of the cycles that he in 1980 he brought

it out again Paul Mueller he brought yeah the same guy Moller he's in SAC he used to be in Sacramento he's around here somewhere and he'd bring out the flying car the Mueller car yeah and he'd bring it out and he brought I oh look at this is the flying car we're finally there and I remember when when I was in like the fifth grade or something the same thing came out it's it's the same recycled car over and over and over again he gets a lot of publicity he's a good

knows how to get publicity yeah he's had all kinds of securities exchange issues for investor frauds unregistered stock sales 40 years 100 million dollars spent according to Wikipedia yeah and if you can go ahead go look at all these great things that you see and China's oh yeah oh no it's working here in China okay it's just not there it's not I'd love it believe me I'm the if there's a real flying car I'll sell my regular car to buy one but I don't see it so it goes right it goes

right up there it's in the it's in the the fusion category as far as I'm concerned yeah well when we see well yeah the fusion thing is gonna gonna collapse I would like to say blow up but I don't want to use that but it would be great I mean obviously it would be it'd be fantastic if it works yes we would be a hyper nation of course yeah it would be fantastic but that's the thing it's just one of these pitches it's all pitch you know and no product well I'll talk to my guy at the DOE yeah

he'll tell you the same I hope so I hope so all right what else you got Johnny boy I have a little presentation here from San Francisco okay this is the big we talked about it before they're suing the big food they're suing big food and this is this the thing that got me into trouble with you mm-hmm because I said one thing one day ten years ago it was two years ago and then five years later I said the opposite then I said I flipped they could flip back and forth and back and forth and so I'm

playing these clips and I'm thinking to myself as I play these this is the latest this came out yesterday as I'm playing these clips I'm thinking wait a minute what is my position I don't even know anymore it's okay I'm not holding you to any position we can flip-flop all we want it's a pod you think is bullcrap but here we go San Francisco is the kind of heavily Democratic city that the Trump administration often targets but there's one issue they agree on

they're both taking aim at ultra processed food in the first lawsuit of its kind San Francisco is suing 11 of the nation's top food companies saying they sell ultra processed food knowing that they are harmful to health by some estimates more than 60% of the food consumed in the United States is ultra processed a growing body of scientific research says diets high in ultra processed food lead to chronic diseases like obesity type 2 diabetes heart

disease and depression earlier John Yang spoke with Ashley Gearheart a University of Michigan psychology professor who studies addiction actually we just heard the San Francisco City Attorney say that ultra processed foods are designed to be addictive do you agree yes in my lab that we see that these products can really trigger all the core signs of addiction that loss of control those intense cravings that continued use even though you know it may be killing or harming

you so I'll just and this is not for any other reasons other than it was Cali means when RFK jr. was running and he was on Tucker and the story was that tobacco companies RGR bought the food companies and then they told their scientists do exactly what you did to make tobacco addictive and do it for food that was that was the claim at the time yeah and I thought it was bullcrap because it's like what do you would you put nicotine in the food I mean there are

there's literally there were literally addictive substances in cigarettes nicotine mm-hmm that's addictive well you they don't put nicotine in it no no but I think it was sugar and other substances oh no because before before the tobacco companies even got involved there were tons of sugar I mean they remember when I was a kid they had all these crackers and wafers and vanilla wafers and they took sugar in that sugary cereal before tobacco guys also Twinkies and ho-ho's and ho-ho's and

hostess cookie cupcakes mmm delicious little Debbie the next mm-hmm how do they do that what's what are in the foods that make people addicted to it yeah there's a certain addiction playbook that's been used from tobacco to opiates to sports betting you take something that exists typically exist in nature like a plant or you know fruit and you alter it so it gives just this just right dose of reward it stimulates you but doesn't fully satisfy you so you want to keep coming

back for more you can titrate the smell the flavor the taste and then you flood the environment with it so your consumers even if they have a slight moment of temptation the product is right at arm's reach and the next thing they know they're using again this is what's happened to a big tobacco really took over and the 70s and 80s and those same levers have been used to create ultra processed foods that are now killing 1,400 Americans every day Wow I would

say the marketing and the packaging and the coloring you walk through the food through the quote-unquote food aisle at the supermarket it's just like it's like a circus you know there's like oh eat me eat me eat me all this stuff oh yeah it looks so good and attractive and kids love it yeah yeah I like using though as a term I'm used it's called eating not using I'm using ho-ho's man I'm using some potato chips hey Dvorak are you holding are you holding anything man are you holding any

any twinkie I'm going a dime bag of potato chips I clip three you say when big tobacco took over food what do you mean by that in the 1960s 70s and 80s Philip Morris and RJ Reynolds started buying up the big food companies like craft and general foods they created some of your favorite products and marketed them like Hawaiian punch and Lunchables researchers like Laura Schmidt who has found that they have applied technologies flavorants marketing strategies

that were honed to sell tobacco products and have applied them to the ultra processed food holdings they divested some of these food companies and the mid-2000s but the stamp of big tobacco on our food supply has never changed it's actually just amplified over time and fundamentally changed the food that we eat should it be regulated the way tobacco is now yeah when I read things that the food industry is saying you know they're talking a lot about how to turn cravings into corporate

profits or they'll say you know indulgence has really been a main profit margin for us that's a big driver of how we're making money and so we've needed time and time again for the government to step in and put some guardrails on those sorts of companies so we and our children can live happy sustainable nourished lives rather than being in these cycles of just craving and crashing that doesn't benefit us but does benefit those corporations okay I'm calling it this is a marketing ploy

this is a marketing ploy for these companies now to start selling healthy non-addictive which is bullcrap this is how a lawsuit can become a marketing ploy they're not behind the lawsuit by the way lawsuits in her in her commentary Nestle which is one of the group biggest monster companies what have they got to do with tobacco no one ever mentions that well when I was a kid the the evil big food and and tobacco companies were already working together and in Christmastime in

our stocking we would get a pack of chocolate cigarettes remember that that was a setup man I remember candy cigarettes but I don't remember chocolate so you had them there were cigarettes were white some sort of chalky crunchy yeah that you had some were chewing gum I've never no not here when I was a kid we didn't have e-bikes we put playing cards in our spokes remember that remember that we didn't have uber we had feet we had feet we had feet we walked we had feet we didn't have lattes

we had Folgers with flavor crystals we didn't have avocado toast with nine grain bread we had Wonder Bread with butter you know we didn't have Instagram we went to the photo mat remember you had to wait a week we have tick-tock with eight millimeter film with sound we have a hundred friends we went to the mall and hung out where there was no World of Warcraft we had pong and mrs. pac-man you these kids don't know how good they have it I think it was ms. pac-man ms. pac-man yes ms.

pac-man that was good the end the days were good and we loved it call me an uber dad walk well I mean there may be some marketing aspect to it and you know like coca-cola is named I know what's coca-cola got to do with tobacco this tobacco angles what bothers me it's bullcrap well I go companies you're you're a big tobacco company you're looking to diversify so you get into the food food business because yeah it's not so you can make the food more addictive it's because you know

how to sell you know how to sell things and you like and you're you're losing your ability to advertise but you have the skill sets to do it so you advertise you're good at advertising that's what you do you're basically a sell it sales company yeah I think you're right you know boom you sell something else so what difference does it make yeah you're right blaming tobacco yes evil tobacco guys I supported them for 58 now I never supported him but I smoked for 40 40 plus years that's a lot of

smoke there's a lot of roll your own to it you crack me up well for most most of my life I rolled my own when I was young when I was smoking at 13 14 we go I hang out at the at the phone booth you tug on the string and it had the little packet tobacco no no no you tug on the string no no no no we bought drum drum tobacco was in a pouch he had your papers and and I that mechanism I can still roll my own cigarette with one hand because you know or you you hold the steering wheel with your knees

that's what a Tesla would be good for I get rolled up my tobacco here yeah yeah you don't even do all the steering with your knees yeah drum drum was my favorite drum and then you had some of those some of the tough guys they had the vanilla and that was black tobacco whoo man whoo and then later I was on a Gala was kick for a while there were Gala was oh yeah the French cigarettes oh it's like smoking a turd but it was cool people smoke clove cretac was the

brand from Indonesia hey you got any smoking I got some critics oh that's too bad because it's horrible it was nasty and it would pop and sparkle and then you got a burn hole in your clothes and your mom would like how did this happen no no no no no of course later just had a good old day they were good old days not like those kids in New York they've got mom Donny few of these eight and a half million will fit into neat and easy boxes some will be voters

from Hillside Avenue or Fordham Road who supported President Trump a year before they voted for me tired of being failed by their party's establishment the majority will not use the language that we often expect from those who wield influence I welcome the change for too long those fluent in the good grammar of civility have deployed decorum to mask agendas of cruelty these people have been betrayed by the established order you know before I finish he has a little bit of a little bit of

an Obama cadence but it's all his own and as an orator I'm impressed the words you know this it's blah blah blah but it's good and of course the classic is coming up here but in our administration their needs will be met their hopes and dreams and interests will be reflected transparently in government they will shape our future and if we're too long these communities have existed as distinct from one another we will draw this city closer together we will replace the frigidity of

rugged individualism with the warmth of collectivism if our New York yearn for solidarity then let this government foster it he's not gonna do any of it I don't think he's gonna do a single thing I mean no he's just a big talker yeah and he's good at it though yes but it's probably just gonna get more corrupt he owes the he he did some anti-jew stuff everyone's all up in arms listen to this pro-israel groups are slamming their money for revoking two

executive orders by former mayor Adams meant to support Israel one of them barred city agencies from boycotting or divesting from Israel the other adopted the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance definition of anti-semitism it equates some forms of anti -israel criticism with anti-semitism these executives orders are two of nine that Mamdani revoked because they came after Adams was indicted on federal corruption charges Mayor Mamdani said he wanted a

fresh start for his administration he did not revoke the creation of the city's office to combat anti-semitism which Adams created in May Oh week week should have done that I was reading a salon article about the about the block party you know Marissa Torme is out there and you know with their red hats you know their socialists had their DSA hats and then was passing out coffee and isn't it great just a great moment 25 degrees in New York we can just call it the guy's not gonna do anything it'll

just be sad if some New Yorkers get hurt because he's putting income poops in charge of police fire you know we'll have to see I hope I hope oh yeah yeah he's I don't I agree I think he's not gonna do anything but he's going to buy by putting idiots in charge of various departments it's going to be a problem at some point and who will get blamed black women yeah well the head of the of the fire department that the lesbian is not black yeah but but listen this is just

this is the socialist playbook like we make big talk big promises and of course you know he's gonna tax the rich well how did that work for Ro Khanna isn't that his name Ro Khanna yeah he's a he's out here yeah he's a 5% wealth tax on all billionaires and everyone went okay we're priming you bitch I'm sorry I didn't mean to say that yeah you have 2 ,000 billionaires in California apparently you know there's about 200 baby oh I thought it was more than that well still I don't think

it's that even 200 I could be wrong no it's not a lot of money these days anymore is it but you know a lot of people worth a lot of money but a billion is a is an extreme amount yeah well in 1990 a house was 20 grand well that's the thing that needs to be fixed definitely neat there's I haven't really figured it out yet but I keep hearing Tom Luongo talking about what Trump's gonna do with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and that's somehow gonna fix it do you don't think you the figure how you fix is

you build more houses and get rid of the migrants yeah well one checkmark on that it's starting getting rid of the but since we're in the mood don't want to miss this report about you know about but superflu I have it yeah you had it and of course you know it's already determined that and they've determined and they like to say that that you know the vaccine doesn't work at all for it and but but they're gonna still beat us up as you know it may not work but you know it

kind of works and and so now then the technique they're using in this report is let's first scare people about measles yes and then we can tell them to get the flu shot isn't this the special K the sub sublocade K or sub sub K sublocades something stupid I call it special K measles cases of the US have skyrocketed over three decades how many is that skyrocket sky is it to the moon is it to Mars how high is it it's less than 3 ,000 so we have the entire population of

300 million people skyrocket we have we have less than one less than a percent okay CDC the number of recorded measles cases this year has topped 2,000 for the first time in more than 30 years the measles cases were confirmed across 44 states here in Washington there were 12 12 12 confirmed measles cases in 2025 earlier this month the contagious virus was detected at two major airports during peak holiday travel airport international airport in New

Jersey and at Boston Logan Airport measles spike is being attributed to a drop in national vaccination rates on the rise new data from the CDC shows flu cases continuing to spike across the country by driven by a new variant called super flu Steve Harrigan shows us the uptick in infections comes as vaccination rates remain low health officials across the country are scrambling to contain a new surge of respiratory illnesses and while COVID and RSV are on

the radar this year a new variant nicknamed super flu is causing the most infections it just so happens that this sub clade K variant that we're seeing really does seem to spread very efficiently it's just part of its genetic makeup you can see here on the CDC's latest flu tracker most of the country is experiencing high activity so far this season we've seen at least seven and a half million cases 81,000 hospitalizations and more than 3,000 deaths experts say the virus is

affecting children more severely and that trend is expected to continue as people return from holiday travel if you go to the urgent care clinics or doctors offices or even emergency rooms you are they're flooded now with a lot of flu patients another big driver vaccine hesitancy only 42% of adults have gotten the flu shot this year doctors say well the new variant is not a perfect match for the vaccine recent analysis from the UK finds the shot offers at least partial protection oh

yeah all right what does that mean partial you won't die you know this is interesting so superflu I typed that into my into my handy-dandy clip search machine and I come up with a clip from September 2019 which would be just before COVID am I right in the timeline here I think so and this I mean COVID I think came out in 2019 no no that's before COVID became flattened the curve and all the rest no that I mean because I think that person died already that person in Washington State

may have died by that by September but but I wouldn't know because I think I went to Rogan in October and there's two weeks after that that because that's when the dr. doom was on what's the guy's name again yeah a guy who got who has long COVID now ironically whatever that is see I wonder how that happened so that this could be a dud but I just like to listen because this was titled superflu with dr.

Marc Siegel you remember that guy yeah he's still around he's on Fox yeah and he was on Tucker a new report by the World Health Organization says it's just a matter of time maybe not that much time before a major flu pandemic these days hyperglobalized world the report says a superflu could spread worldwide in just 36 hours and potentially kill 80 million people we prepared for that isn't that interesting that this this CDC they say CDC or World Health Organization world health or so

they were talking about a superflu September 19th 2019 that could fly around the world in 36 hours and kill 80 million people yeah which was the numbers we were given for COVID hit so think about that setup isn't that interesting yeah gee so so when they come up with the superflu again be careful what they're doing with that I want to thank you for your courage say in the morning to you the man who put the C in the dime bag of chips say hello to my friend on the other end the one the only mr.

John I'll end the morning all right you said occurring this he was some graphing the SS in the one of the names of nights out there 2162 I love a good and I love a good invasion of distraction I love it when Trump does something I love it I'll be honest he needs to do more he needs to do more of this stuff yeah because everyone oh let's see what the boys got to say let's listen to them let's see what let's see what those how many what they're

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certainly did invent it and you know sometimes things go wrong and sometimes things break and so he lost all of the submissions that were put in since the previous show I guess except for what he saved was everything that was chosen so we're sorry we can't we can't nag and rag on all the previous AI generated art because it's all gone but we can thank Jeffrey Rhea for bringing us the artwork for episode 1830 which was titled bulb heads got a lot of comments on that which I didn't get any comment

oh well I mean that's people like put a bikini on it now I saw it in the in my timeline Keeney and I just want to say that this incredibly racist comment did not come from you or for me but came from Mimi Mimi's the one who first told me it used the term bulb head it's so it's so horrible it's got to be the worst but there it is that was her description of the guy who ran for mayor which mayor for what Minneapolis though that did some holly that ran

from Minneapolis mayor head of curious shape cranium crayon yes yeah she called him a bulb head how about have you seen what's the girl who was just on Saturday Night Live the great singer Ariana Grande yes I've noticed that she's her look has changed she has an alien head so yeah tissue went through she got some I think she had some work done and I don't think it came out well but it's like the back of her head extends half a head longer than it should you gotta take a look at

it yeah she's also doesn't look the fair faces also skewed but she changed maybe a different person that's possible but she can sing I'll tell you that oh yeah she's always had a good girl can sing so thank you Jeffrey Rhea and again we can't we can't nag and rag on anything else because it's all gone but no agenda art generator commas where you can upload your homemade art or your slop as you so yes working now yeah it is working now well this accepting art it is accepting art I see

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it very funny but if you don't read that title you don't understand the art how do I doesn't work as standalone no it doesn't it doesn't yeah you can't do two -part humor you can't have a connective title name that makes it funny yeah I'm already telling you Darren O'Neill is ahead he's already got some zingers here he's got you something to make up for a show today yeah that's true no agenda art generator commas where you can upload your art we love it it's it's a lot of fun it's

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the way this is that we don't have anything on the Minnesota fraud at least I don't I do have a comment from walls that I think's worth playing is about the leering center I guess there is no way to put this delicately so basically we're fucked they caught us the FBI is looking at all of us right now so please tell your brothers your husbands well you're from Somalia so your brothers are probably your husband's whatever just tell all your family members to shut

it all down right friggin now if you have kids put them in a truck and take them to the nearest quality leering center I know it's supposed to say learning but you're also fucking stupid you couldn't even get the sign right anyway take them to the leering center and tell them to pretend like they're learning shit okay it just doesn't work in audio if you don't see it it has to have the video I think these AI things they lose it in audio what yeah I think they lose it in audio

you think that was AI please no please yeah I I disagree I think you're telling me that's no no that was a okay I'm gonna I'm gonna disagree in general I'm not disagreeing about that particular that wasn't a very good voice the voice was not trained properly it didn't sound enough like walls it should be exaggerate exaggerate a little bit it should be I think this is closer this is Liz Warren complaining sorry it wasn't prepared for that Liz Warren trans community is not

a violent community we are a peaceful people I myself am trans I'm trans race I identify as a Native American from the tribe of retard ho descendants of the Navajo and the stupid house and we are a peaceful people okay you know the problem is you don't see what's going on the background you don't see that it's like and and and for some reason people can't write something funny up they have to put cuss words in there and I'm a retard you know it's like it's it's old I guess put a

bikini on her that would be funnier just you know no I just thought it was worth it I'm underwhelmed I'm just yeah you're picky you have better ears than most people too but that I thought the Warren voice sounded very close I got a big report out of Germany this is right out of a movie people it's been described as one of the biggest heists in German history investigators are now trying to work out how thieves managed to steal valuables worth tens of millions of euros from a bank in the western

city of Gelsenkirchen police believe a large drill was used to break through a thick basement wall to reach their loot hundreds of furious customers descend on their bank terrified that everything they own has vanished I have entrusted and invested all my savings here I didn't sleep last night they are not giving us any information emergency services discovered the break-in on Monday morning after the fire alarm went off firefighters and police officers searched the bank for

a possible fire but instead of flames they found a hole in the basement wall and a ransacked vault containing cash gold and jewelry worth tens of millions of euros if someone had a safety deposit box there's a high probability that it was broken into because 90 % of them have some victims fear their losses may exceed the insured value of their boxes I fear my mother's gold coin is gone she passed away in 1988 my grandmother's gold bracelets which I hoped would secure my

daughter's future investigators are still piecing together how it all happened but they believe the burglars used a nearby parking garage to gain access to the bank police say the evidence points to a highly organized operation I would definitely say this is quite spectacular it is really unique compared to anything I've ever seen heard or read I have never heard of any similar case except perhaps on TV this was like an Ocean's 11 they drilled this huge hole through that you know like a two

-foot wall how old-school is that yeah that's pretty good you have to have that takes a lot of planning yeah and who puts their gold coin in a vault in the bank anymore that doesn't sound like you said she said one gold coin and my one do you know I have a very small tract of land it's a little parcel my parcel of land is in the and then cash why would you put cash in a safe deposit box yeah put it in your mattress like normal people that's what you do or you maybe put it in the

bank where it's insured yeah the big thing now is people you know come in and rouse you at home and say give me a Bitcoin key that's the big one now kidnapping people everywhere for it first you have to know that somebody has a Bitcoin key well if you know how would they know well if you're the CEO of an exchange or some or if you're boastful now of course the way to go is two or three multi-sig so I can give you my key without the other two you can or at least one of the other two

you can't get to it you've just given it away well no I'm not giving nothing away yeah you are you just told people everybody out there every criminal listens to this show and there's probably more than one you've just told me there's a three key system that you use and now they're gonna have to beat it out of you no but I don't have the other two the other two are not in my possession that's the beauty of it oh where are they with a trust company no no oh yeah that's

that is the only way we cover them so you can't be beaten into submission so you get well they can be forced they can beat me but they're not gonna get my Bitcoin but come and take it suckers we're ready here in Fredericksburg I have to take clock talk clips okay I'll go whoa I'll go I'll go with you that's fine I'll go with you okay just just deluded women I just I'm sorry I'm gonna try to I'm weaning myself off is a question thank you here's a question have you already

posted these on Twitter because I see some I mean your time you're in my timeline now all the time and that and it's like it ruins it because then I see I see these clips on an excellent on the you play him on the show I you need to segregate that stuff I'm going to do this why are you giving valuable show material to Elon Musk I'm I'm not gonna argue with your point okay let's start with the box checker I always get asked if I want children and the short answer

is maybe the long answer is I will not be having kids with a man unless he could check off these boxes for me for starters the man will absolutely have to be my husband I would never give a man a baby without the biggest rock on my finger the second box would be a push present is a non-negotiable for me I want either a car or house it's a non-negotiable also assuming the man I will be with would be tatted so he would have to get a tattoo of my face on his stomach because it's a body

for a body my body's gonna change forever so should his third box would be that I need a house cleaner and then the fourth box would be that I need a full time nanny I already know who the nanny would be it would be a family member but I want that family member to be very well compensated for their time and energy so yeah remember before you type some nasty ass shit that these are my requirements right you don't have to have any requirements if you just want to have a baby

for the free or if you just want to be a man that wants to give a woman a baby and you want to do nothing else but spread your seed and have nothing else to offer the woman then you know live your life this is my life and I will not be changing and sacrificing my whole entire life without these boxes being checked off okay okay well first of all I think the correct term for a woman like this is not a box checker but a box Fox second although this is

somewhat exaggerated this is in fact the problem with many women as I've ever heard from many young men that they do have these boxes and it's the sixes typically six feet tall six-pack abs six six-figure salary etc etc and I think that the the woke Democrat liberal culture that we are weaseling our way out of has ruined them yeah I think so too they're ruined so it's a ruined person that's yeah that's actually very sad I'm very sad for her but I believe that to be reasonably authentic oh thank

you that's one of the few clips that you thought were real yeah I think it was authentic and I'm not sorry for her I'm just I think she's a sickening person yeah but but I have love for everybody John yeah yeah I do even my enemies here is the another one this is a now this one is interesting because this this is a another delusional woman and and she this has got a twist in it which was the really took me aback and the only reason I'm playing it is for the little twist at the end but I find

really fucking comical me and all my liberal friends want to be traditional housewives well not all of us but most of us but the problem is we don't like Republican men because they don't have the same sense of justice and morality that we do because we care for every human being and the liberal men don't believe in exploiting themselves for labor so like we have to have an equal household because the only one ones that bust their ass and make enough money to support

a stay-at-home mom wife whatever are the Republican men because they will exploit the shit out of themselves for money then they're miserable and burn out and take it out on everyone around them and refuse to take meds so it's like yeah I'd rather be alone well your wish is granted young lady yeah she'll be alone but what is this thing that they get all you know they they have issues because they're working too hard and they have to and they were and they refuse to take meds was the kicker

what is wrong with these people oh they refuse I'm not gonna run off of the Republican men they refuse to take meds everybody's on meds man obviously on meds but I would say nine out of ten of the tick-tock women you play are on meds you have no idea and it's all it's all SSRIs all of them you know what I'm what I'm kind of worried about or this is a quick conversation so if President Trump pulls off what he's trying to pull off and there will be a lot of jobs but these will be trade jobs do

you think that there will be enough young people who who actually want to do this who want to retool reschool learn how to do these things can we actually go back to a productive a production type economy with the type of people we have now do you think the the Zed's will do it or have they been completely ruined I think they can be brainwashed into doing it well really I mean it just seems that at some point you've just got to be sick of a board the boring life of sitting

behind a PlayStation or not having a girlfriend or not having anything going on and you're getting old and by old I mean 30 and maybe you can learn how to be a plumber I mean it's I think people that are already 30 it may be too late for them but people are coming up they look at what's ahead and they see the opportunity for them not to go that way I hope either the 40 year old guy living in the house still living at home yeah I hope 40 year old virgin basically yeah I hope so we'll find out

I hope the people take advantage of the opportunity because it's gonna be good money I really there's gonna be good paying union jobs it's gonna be good money you can already see it happening I think it's what is it apprenticeships gov they're doing a million apprenticeships but no no one talks about it no one ever says hey there's some opportunities out there you should probably jump in on that get your hands dirty oh I've been looking at this Fuentes on Owens AJ clip for

three hours I'd love to know what that is before we just a clip a snippet from tell me it's not he's not AI John it's not AI this was a snippet of Fuentes was on Alex Jones recently oh I missed it yeah you did and they Alex Jones just a love fest between these two I mean they're genuinely like each other it seems unlike Tucker I like him and like me kids got he's got gusto he is yeah kids got gusto and I'll glow bless he's all against them yeah you got it you nailed it I nailed it come

on to work so so they get along but so but Fuentes drops this little bomb about Candace and you know he does understand that she comes you know that she's married a character who's part of the British royal nexus and all the rest but she throws in another character I never knew anything about specifically and he puts it in there as a quizzical situation that he's doesn't understand why people are talking about one thing or another about Candace but they never bring this guy

up and this is the guy this guy who's been supporting her John Mappin I don't know why nobody's talking about John Mappin the Scientologist the heir to the jeweler that creates the crown jewels for the British royal family he allegedly introduced her and her husband he's been so supportive she retweets him he's writing letters to her he was best friends with Charlie Kirk his wife is from Russia I don't know why nobody's talking about that guy no one's talking about George Farmer they all

met through turning point UK so you have turning point USA she met her husband through turning point UK she made a bag off of turning point USA and turning point UK so there's definitely something suspicious going on there maybe a foreign intelligence play of its own oh he's finally catching on to the North Sea Nexus oh that's good we need him to be talking about that that's good yeah I know about this John Mappin guy Mappin m-a-p-p-i-n John Mappin a globalist you know it's interesting Tina and

I've been watching the series Victoria on Netflix which is about Queen Victoria who ascended to the throne when she was I think 18 years old and I'm a virgin Queen she was the Virgin Queen yes and of course Albert's the and they're all Germans which is great because she came from Coburg Albert came from they're all they're all Germans the whole they just changed their name later Windsor from Windsor but it's and it's I think it's a very accurate portrayal of those times this

is 1800s and you just see the rich the riches that they they got from the entire British Empire and how the British people suffered under them even though it's a it's a love story and it's all beautiful the costumes are phenomenal but the the British royalty do not give a hoot about the people not for one they never have ever they just living in squalor among rats and eating stale bread and they got cholera Indian cholera and just they don't care at all about

them it's amazing that people still want to live there at all because you know it's still the same with the House of Lords they're just no good can I just state that they're just no good I don't the Brits I know I live there for a couple for five years I like their humor but they don't care about plebs they really really don't don't give a rat's ass about him your thoughts I'm not gonna disagree I mean I've I had I worked there I went twice a year to London and the

rest of the UK for about a decade so I've been there enough to find my way around and drive which is always amusing especially on the roundabouts when you do it for the first time the roundabouts they're very the roundabouts are a little frightening but the rest of it's pretty easy when you go in against traffic on the roundabout I've done that I've done that the roundabouts are a rough go but and there's lots of them but but I found that the there are

royalists that really are just crazy about the Royals and I think it's very important to have them and there's people that hate the Royals and always considered like communists when they're not it's I really can't put my finger on whether I I mean I enjoy going there I I can I can blend in as best I can is anywhere and there's a pale white guy you just eat some fish and chips or a curry and you're good to go but more did we do research the more it's obvious that the British

monarchy is stronger than we think it is that we're convinced they're they tried as they've sold the operation suckered everybody into believing everybody but if you started looking at their total net worth which is who knows it's outrageous you think Elon Musk is rich no no you look at the net worth of these guys in the buildings and things that they own all over the place where this where what's his name Andrews kicked out of the lodge which was a huge mansion behind Windsor

Castle you had to go to another mansion someplace else yes he used his old name Vaughn was it Mountbatten or whatever he's not whatever it is but who cares but and so he's yeah he's down one made Victoria she they call her the grandmother of Europe because all of her kids they're all royalty in Spain and all these different countries all all throughout Europe I mean the Nexus really does come from them and of course some the event the orange family who Queen Victoria

said is they were looking for her to get married I don't want to marry that pumpkinhead Dutchman from from orange which pretty much describes the Dutch royal family pumpkin heads yeah it's just yeah and they hate us they hate us they can't stand that we did so well so I think that's that concludes our North Sea Nexus analysis the Brits hate us and they hate and they hate poor people well we have a few people who think there gave us $50 and more and Adams going to read the list one by one it's

very short list today it's only told very few we didn't get good response separately Kim of the nutty fluffer she helped us out quite a bit she sure did pull this out and I want to thank loose from high-low first of all she sent me a box to my PO box by the way I got my liquid smoke as well from our our muscle car Dame who we damed on the previous he was one of the first dames of 2026 my liquid smoke was not breached so it was good and and I thank you very much and loose

she sent me a box with seven bags of Dutch licorice I cannot have any bags yes all different kinds all because Dutch licorice is just it's something to behold I mean the the the different kinds and I'm pre -diabetic at this point because I'm addicted to this stuff you see you can't just eat the bag you have we have a little liquor you don't buy a tobacco company it definitely they've made that stuff into crack so thank you very much loose it's appreciated on the list we have one of our Bitcoin

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yes he is from Spain Portugal I'm sorry four more years of sifting through my artwork thank you Jeffrey Rhea Darius Gandhi also a make good note he sent in three hundred and thirty three dollars and thirty three cents he says congratulations on 18 big beautiful years Madeira in Portugal that was in Spain I thought but I think he is in Portugal I thought it was from if I recall he was all your memories and I thought it was in Madeira but it could be by the way a lot of Madeira drinking

at the at Windsor Castle in the Victoria show I didn't know that Madeira was such a big big deal for the Brits I think it was a bigger deal back then I mean it's still the same product and you can still get it I coming up in one of the tips in the day I'll give a little Madeira lecture and you know what to do yes I I love you I give you Madeira Madeira back to Darius congratulations where else can John's file naming system drive Adam mad and still produce hours

of perfect podcasting only on the no agenda show you both somehow turn hours of LA traffic into minutes of pure joy I believe I've now met the requirements I would like to be known as sir Darius of Venice California would love a bean and I didn't a roundtable write this one down a bean and cheese burrito and a cold bottle of Mexican coca-cola which of course is the best we drink it here in Texas and by the way that all coca-cola will be Mexican coca-cola is that when Robert

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superfluous like three days maybe didn't feel too bad you know sneezing but then it just didn't stop you know my wife you won't even come near me she won't you know she won't snuggle up to me in bed she's like I don't want whatever you have I don't want it which I understand but it's lonely it's lonely all I have is you John on the other side of the microphone yeah this is where you could say something nice but no I could have something nice I could add a one-liner I

don't know I'm missing a lot of you had I must have I must have some some virus you got the super cuz I have missed more than one or two softballs you got that I keep lobbying you keep lobbying me yeah keep keep it up all right we got John super today coming up and some AI slop and some not in our end of show mixes but first we check out what we want to choose for an ice so at the end of show do you have AI or they have some real ones in here I have a combo as usual okay well you want me to

go first I only have yeah of course you go first that way I can read that I can I can relent all their work is fantastic it was like a item me no no it's not a that's dr.

Richard White that's that's a real person did you like it or did you think man it was okay as my second one I mean wow come on you can't you can't beat AJ you can't beat AJ no okay what you got okay I got I got I so genius financial geniuses no that's it sounded real that was kind of good it was real yeah okay let's go with soccer this beat soccer any day no no you don't think it beats soccer no soccer's okay now here's the one that's because of today's show I thought this was a thematic one

does the money shot Wow good work send these guys some money there you go everybody or wait for John C for the day I'm in the rotation so we're going back to websites and with the breaking news of the raid and capture and kidnapping and extraction or whatever we want to call it of Maduro it might be a good time to put this on your list of websites to check out this is the website is online newspapers.com oh that sounds online newspapers.com every newspaper in the entire world is a

this site but are they all behind a paywall no well I mean if the individual newspapers behind a pair like the Wall Street Journal yeah there's not much but most of them aren't and they're worldwide and they and it tells you if they're in English or what language it is so you get these English-speaking newspapers in different parts of the world and you get all kinds of this is a very valuable site for you researchers out there especially you kids in college that

want to have a couple some some references that are a little up seem obscure but you nailed them from going on to this site well my newspapers.com I'm looking at the Dutch newspapers this is good this is wow this is I'm now a lot of these are syndicated so they're owned by one entity but still this is this is quite interesting huh yeah who maintains the site do they make any money off of it they got any ads I can't I can't see it making any money it must be a

front for some Intel agency that issues it themselves also use it but hey since we got it you might as well just let the public use it oh that's I don't know that's pretty good by the way one of our producers sent me a note that open AI is testing ads I know they are yeah and if you like the ad you're supposed to shake your phone to send him feedback I can't wait it's gonna be a hootenanny there it is ladies and gentlemen John's tip of the day find them all

at noagendafund.com what's tip of the day John Nance created by Dana Brunetti that's right thank you Dana Brunetti for producing once again where would we be without Dana Brunetti let's see oh coming up next I talked about him earlier Mitch and Archie from podverse they'll be on podcasting 2.0 that's queued up next for your live streaming pleasure at no agenda stream calm end of show mixes from MVP Martin JJ slip something in there and these laughs to round it out actually this kind of made

me happy this end of show mix sequence so keep the slop coming everybody listen to them all and get mojams.com and we will return on Thursday with more of your media deconstruction who knows which country will fall next we can't wait we'll be here to unpack it all for you and I am coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country right in the middle of cedar fever in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where it's raining again I'm John C.

Dvorak don't you worry rain or shine we'll be here remember us at noagendadonations.com until Thursday adios mofos a hui hui and such welcome to the USA Maduro's on a holiday spree Sailing off the coast on the bright blue sea He's traded the sash for a tropical shirt Kicking off his boots in the Florida dirt He's checking out the buffet He's seeing the sights underneath the glow of the Mara logo lights With a camera in his hand and a smile on his face He's the newest tourist in the

good old place Welcome to the USA The sun is shining down Throw away the drugs and the heavy golden crown Enjoy the cruise full day From the Grand Front Porch to the Atlantic Shore Nicki Maduro won't get any more He is here to stay Enjoy the view The vacation of a lifetime A welcome from the Bureau Welcome Nicki Maduro Boomer the badass generation Before all you sissies were born In the morn In the morn The truth is getting shiny The truth is getting bold We're trading in the fake news For the

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