1825 - "MUK-Ultra"

And by the way, I denounce you.

Oh no!

Adam Curry, John C. Devorah.

It's Sunday, December 14th, 2025. This is your award-winning Gilmore Nation media assassination episode 1825. This is no agenda. Denouncing everyone! And broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas hill country here in FEMA region number 6 in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, we're wondering how you can have a shooting in Australia when guns are illegal. I'm John C. Devorah. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning!

Yeah, I was hoping you wouldn't say that. Sigh. Ah, there you go. Started off at the, started off on the right foot. Yeah, I was. With the famous, what's the name again? Gigi. Gigi. Gigi Shai. Gigi, yeah, yeah. Oh good lord. Yeah. Because whenever you say that, I get all the emails that say, that's not true!

We have hunting rifles, we got laces, guns are outlawed. Everybody, Australia has such a bad rap. Like, well they took your guns away and now look what happened. Rhode Island. Well they took your guns away, it's hard to get a gun, look what happened. We live in a broken world, people. Hey, you know what? The argument is valid. What's valid? They took the guns away and look what happened. You know what's interesting about, certainly about Brown University?

Thanksgiving Day weekend. We were doing a show, weren't we? We did a show on Thanksgiving. Did we do a show on Thanksgiving? Of course, every Thanksgiving except in 18 years of doing shows we have done every Thanksgiving except one, ever. I do not recall the quad screen shouting at me, four dead and 13 wounded in Chicago. You know, the news is racist. Everybody's racist. You know why? Because of black people. Black people in Chicago got killed Thanksgiving Day weekend.

Four dead, 13 wounded, you didn't hear about it. I wonder why? Why is that? No guns in Chicago either. What's up with that? Chicago's got very strict gun laws. So what's up with that?

You already said. Oh, they're racist. Yeah, okay. Good, at least you understand. And by the way, I denounce you. Oh, no. That's the cool new hip thing. You gotta denounce somebody. I never heard this. Oh, yeah. No, you have to denounce Milo, denounce Tucker, denounce what's the kid? De Fuentes. Denounce Dave Rubin. Denounce Megyn Kelly. Where did you get this? I follow this. Everybody's denouncing everybody. Denounce. I denounce you. It's so corny. It is. I denounce you.

It is. This MUK Ultra business is out of control. Because that's what it is. MUK Ultra. I like MUK. Oh, that's good. It's a pun. Yes. But that's clearly what it is. MUK. Yes. Everybody. Whoa. Hey, where was it? Where did I have the... I thought I clipped that.

This was the one. Hold on. Here it is. Alright, everybody. It's obvious now who is the handler. We all know who works for Mossad. It's those little things where, again, he would walk through the door, drop his bags. Daddy's home. Take his phone. Friday night. She said Shabbat Shalom. Oh, no! She said Shabbat Shalom. Why did she say it, though, is the question. She just said it. Yeah, that's pretty funny. She got nothing but grief.

I didn't think we were going to bring her up, but she's been getting just boatloads of grief. You know, so first of all, I'm pretty sure... Talking about Sabbath is not all that odd in Christian circles. I can see Charlie Kirk saying Shabbat Shalom, y'all. I'm home. I can see it. The problem here is... I can't. I can't see anybody except... I don't even think Horowitz or most Jews say it. It's a Friday night thing you're supposed to say. Well, maybe that's what she was talking about.

Friday night. He came home Friday night and said Shabbat Shalom. But no, I'm not buying that. Here's what's going on. Here's what's going on with Erica Kirk. Here's what's going on with Candace. Here's what's going on with pretty much everybody. Except us. All we do is deconstruct the news. We don't get involved. No, why would we? No, because it's a sucker's game. But you and I have unique experiences that we can talk about because we've been around. We've done certain things.

We've been certain places. I can say on a microcosm I know what it is to be super super super famous. And that microcosm actually would be the Netherlands. And when you get into any kind of... I'm going to stop you. Because I don't think everybody realizes this. That you were super super super famous in

the Netherlands. To the point where even during the era of the show, which is an era literally an era. You would go to the Netherlands and there would be all these front page headlines about you and your new girlfriend who looked a lot like your old wife and all in Dutch and they'd all have pictures of you you got your trench coat over your face trying to avoid the cameras. That kind of thing. It was at that level. And so people don't realize that that was true. So you do speak from a...

This is not bull crap. No, it's not bull crap. And that started when I was 19. All of a sudden half of the country was watching me because there were only two TV stations and I was on with David Bowie and with the Stones and with Tina Turner and Grace Jones and just go all the way down the list. Madonna. In fact the whole country still whenever I entered the country Hey, Curry, Madonna. Because at the time they were saying Madonna. Madonna. Madonna. Hey, it's Madonna. Anyway.

On a microcosm, super famous. And it's a very strange thing to experience. Particularly when the media gets involved. And I'll just consider X and YouTube and the podcastosphere. I'll consider that all to be media. In fact I think I pioneered some of the... Back in the day it was blogs. And you'd write something on your blog and then the newspaper would pick it up and then there would be a television news item about the blog that you wrote that you posted that the newspaper wrote.

And you get into this very strange rhythm of responding. And that's exactly what I'm seeing with all

of these micro-famous people like Dave Rubin and Candace Owens. We were at a party last night, a dinner and at least half the wind was like, oh yeah. Oh yeah. I can't wait. It's four o'clock in the afternoon. I'm ready. I'm sitting there. I'm hitting refresh. I can't wait until Candace comes on. Really? Well, you also have to understand what is the number one category in podcasting? Outrage. No. The number one category by far in podcasting is true crime.

Yeah. That's been the case ever since Surreal. Yes. And so that's essentially what Candace has become. True crime. You know, who killed Charlie Kirk. This is an interesting interpretation. And that's why women love it so much. But then you add in this people commenting and then Candace commenting and then Dave Rubin commenting. And by the way, the bad actor in all this, if there is a bad actor, is Tucker Carlson. He is platforming. So we have all these terms now. I denounce you.

He platformed him. Right on time. Tucker platforms Nick Fuentes. Tucker re-platforms Milo Yiannopoulos. Right at the moment that I think Candace is about to flame out, unless she may not, another Brit, another British connection is brought in. To me, it feels a little bit like we can't really do the Gen Z protests we're doing around the world, but let's mess them up in America anyway. And we'll do it like this. And it's just unbelievable.

Every microcosm, every facial expression is analyzed and overanalyzed and no breaking news. Nobody knows anything. But the actors involved in this, and I say that with a specific reason, you get so swept up in it. And at a certain point, whenever anybody says something, I've got to respond to that. The funny thing in Holland, I don't know if it still works, but up until about 10 years ago, because you get newspapers calling, you get Barry Weiss. Come on to town hall with me.

Let's talk about this. Let's sit down on the Fox and Friends. It's not like you necessarily are on some tour, but you feel like you have to do it because if you don't, then the other team wins. And in this case, I had it with my first wife, all kinds of stuff, but then with the government, Curry with his helicopters, all kinds of nonsense. In Holland, there is a response that you can give through your people. And you can say, I'm sorry, right now we have a media stop. It's an actual term.

We have a media stop. And funny enough, when you say that, it kind of stops because you're not going to respond anymore and everybody knows it. I have done so many stupid things in my life with the media. I remember doing an interview for a newspaper after I left wife number one, was with wife number two before she was my wife. I'll just give an interview to the newspaper. And they dragged it out over three days, two full pages. Of course, it wasn't exactly how I said it.

And it just made matters worse. And that's what all these people are wrapped up in. But this phenomenon where there's certainly a couple million people who are just completely... This is all they're living for.

They don't care about anything else. This is it. This is the thing. It's really... It's an interesting time to be alive to see it, for sure. But man, is it tiring. I don't know if you... I guess you don't follow it that much. Which just proves that it's possible. Of course it proves it. It's like there's a phone in the drawer. Well, but you've got other things in your algo. You've got crazy women from TikTok. Actually, I've altered the algo. Oh, have you now? You want to hear...

That started to finally wane because I got sick of it. Oh, good. I mean, really sick of it. There's still TikTok clips. I got one lined up here today. But it's moved over to another group of women that are bitching about not being able to find a man. It's a whole genre. Oh, yeah. It's a million of these women and they're going out. All the good men are taking, and they're moaning and groaning. You wonder why they can't get a date. I can't get a date. Nobody knows how. No one will come up to me.

And they go... It's all whining. I don't know how I got into this one because I didn't really solicit. But I know I got into it because I listened to one of them completely and I said, what? And I played it again. Boom, I'm done. And so now I'm getting all these videos of these women moaning and groaning about their lives. So you and I are actually living in two different realities. That's really what it is. Which I guess is good. No, you need to do dimensionality.

But I still have to denounce you. Okay. I just have to denounce you. Well, then I fi-denounce you too.

What everyone's missing is all the cool stuff that's happening, such as the absolute psyop to usher in digital ID. I don't think you've caught this one. I only caught it kind of by accident yesterday as I was doing prep. I'm like, well, hold on a second. Well, if you caught it by accident yesterday, I'm doubtful that I caught it. Listen to this. Have you heard of 764? It does ring a bell. This is the warning that every parent needs to hear.

And James' mother tells Fox News the predators who targeted her son will never be held accountable because the federal laws that we have right now are insufficient. Members of 764 and other online networks target kids and extort them for money, sometimes convincing them to kill or sexually exploit themselves or others or harm animals. Now, I warn you, the next few images that you're about to see are disturbing.

The violent online networks find vulnerable children on platforms like Discord and gaming sites. These pictures are from the Vernon, Connecticut Police Department. Police say a teenage girl was extorted by 764 after sending sexually explicit and self-harm material. The FBI tells Fox quote, the FBI is investigating more than 350 subjects who are tied to violent online networks commonly referred to as 764 but includes many offshoot networks and names.

According to FBI Director Kash Patel, nihilistic violent extremism arrests are up 500% while arrests Did you hear that? Nihilistic extremism arrests? Hold on a second. According to the FBI Wait, and 500% of course they give us the real numbers One and then now five? Yeah, no, you're not, of course. That would be 500%. FBI Director Kash Patel, nihilistic violent extremism arrests are up 500% while arrests specifically tied to 764 you see are up 20%.

Nihilistic extremism arrests which is, that's new Nightline got jumped on the bandwagon. Welcome to this special edition of Nightline. With a special edition. I'm joined by ABC's Chief Justice Correspondent Pierre Thomas Welcome back to Nightline Pierre. Good to be here I know you've been working on this story for nearly a year. Indeed. Juju, this is truly one of the most terrifying stories I've ever covered in my 30 years as a journalist.

Even worse than 9-11 We're talking about a network that's both a national security threat and also a direct threat to the nation's families. It's a story of pure evil. A network that seeks to sow chaos in our society. This is good isn't it?

One child at a time And we must warn you there is graphic content and imagery that might disturb some viewers The darkest The music is what disturbs me And by the way you should mention that this is the second report where they have to do something that they tell you to go this is almost done purposefully. It is There's graphic images that might disturb you which is to get you in a mindset.

But everybody got the same electronic press kit and when they say that they flash a video or they flash a picture rather of somebody holding a pink knife right in front of a little pug dog's face It's the weirdest and the pug dog of course looks like You've seen this more than once then Everyone has the same press kit So it is a video release There is graphic content and imagery that might disturb some viewers The darkest corners of the internet terrorizing the most

vulnerable in the most unexpected places 764 a loose network of anonymous people online across the world Their goal? To unleash chaos Their targets?

Mostly children It's chopping time Like this girl, coerced to cut her own hair and eat it The FBI calling 764 one of the biggest emerging threats We're going after the idiot It's so sad It's so sad It's sad How dumb are you Well listen If you've somehow been coerced on I don't know, I'll just name a platform off the top of my head Roblox If you've been coerced somehow into showing something or doing something You thought it was somebody else You thought it was

a peer, you thought it was someone your own age And then it turns out, oh we're going to release this to all of your friends, unless you cut off your hair and eat it Which Their targets?

Mostly children It's chopping time Like this girl, coerced to cut her own hair and eat it The FBI calling 764 one of the biggest emerging threats We're going after the new form of what I refer to as modern day terrorism in America 764 crimes Each and every one of the 55 FBI field offices across the country are investigating 764 related cases Charges ranging from animal cruelty to child pornography, to murder and even alleged terrorism They're calling it the number one digital threat right now

Number one! Sexual and violent behavior This is about the most disturbing story I've seen I mean, everything's in that report But it's also in Canada A Halifax teen who police say is affiliated with violent online extremist group 764 was scheduled for plea in court on Thursday but did not appear This comes days after the federal government labeled 764 a terrorist organization making Canada the first country to do so The 16 -year-old's lawyer appeared on his behalf requesting

a change to the youth's release conditions The accused will now be granted access to speak with legal counsel over a cell phone without internet connection under supervision He will not have the ability to use any devices other than that moment in time When announcing the charges in October investigators described 764 as a group that glorifies serious violence Officials say the network operates on social media and gaming platforms to gain trust with kids before manipulating them into

sharing intimate images or filming themselves committing acts of self-harm violence or animal cruelty And then the final one is we go back to ABC The I-Team continuing our coverage tonight on a sadistic online network targeting children We've told you about the group 764 We've told you about it!

Members manipulate unsuspecting kids online blackmail and extort them into producing sexually explicit images or harming themselves or others 764 operates not only in the United States but all over the world using threats, blackmail, and perverse manipulation to groom children for violence and pain, according to the FBI forcing them to perform depraved acts of violence against themselves and others The more debased and violent the image or video a member is able to coerce a child to produce

the higher their standing in the 764 We've got to change the law Unfortunately, technology has to be moving forward and as it moves forward there's more challenges for criminal prosecution Now they're using all sorts of means of coercing these young people into doing horrible things harming themselves and others and animals and in some cases taking their own lives Notice that they brought the new thing is the animals because kids alone wasn't doing it That's why he

needed a little pug dog with a knife in front of his face They got the girl cutting her hair and eating it but once you bring in animals now you've got everybody's attention into doing horrible things harming themselves and others and animals and in some cases taking their own lives At least 28 people have been charged by the Justice Department in recent years with suspected ties to 764 or affiliated networks Many have pleaded not guilty and are awaiting trial The National Center for Missing

and Exploited Children tells the I-Team it's on track to receive nearly 2,000 reports of abuse tied to these networks this year, much of it starting on popular online platforms The imagery, the videos, the chats that we are seeing and reading are the most graphic that I have ever seen in my 20 year history Is that a robot voice? No, it was not But it's all the same Most graphic, most disturbing Animals, did I mention animals?

Look at this puppy Animals Well that's because you've already been preconditioned to the notion that kids who abuse animals are likely to become sex offenders or whatever which has been put into public domain it's in all the TV shows, it's been around forever So you have to get the animal angle in there or it's a good idea So we have, I think, 8 bills all of a sudden popping up and the first couple ones are exactly what I said was coming months ago as, you know, we have the Godcaster app and

we already receive messages from the Apple store, App Store and from the Google Play store Here's the API for age verification and they're

going to want they're probably going to start with every app or they kind of have started with every app should check the age that's what's happening in Australia Then we have the App Store Accountability Act House Resolution 3149 which will require the app stores to verify the age of users and create parental accounts and of course the parents will have to prove have to prove their child's age with some form of government approved ID, real ID might work.

We have the Screen Act H.R. 1623 Now this is for any website or app that has any kind of quote on quote commercial pornography, whatever that means exactly. What does that mean? In this era. Exactly We have the POPA Parents Over Platforms Act and this requires app stores to determine a user's age category so not exactly age but age category. They'll be kind of like a PG-13 RX rating Then we have of course the Can you stop a second here with this? What kind of apps are we talking about?

Say I have an RSS reader Do I have to verify somebody's age because it's an RSS reader? Not yet Are we specifically what kind of apps? It makes no sense to me that I should or I have a word processor and who gives a crap how old a person is one way or the other?

Obviously all of this is ridiculous because it all points to one thing it all points to why don't we just make it easy everybody and give everybody a digital ID and then when the app pops up or you want to use it or a website or whatever it is, you have to scan the QR code and then your phone with your digital ID will determine if you can or the app side or the website side.

This is going to happen it's a foregone conclusion and it's happening worldwide and it won't all be one system so you have the Kids Online Safety Act that's the big one but there they're putting the the responsibility on the quote-unquote platforms. We have the Safer Gaming Act which is similar but it allows the FTC to sue video game companies.

See this is where it gets kind of interesting when you put the the liability and responsibility on the platforms Oh you mean like they should do with vaccines? Just wondering why don't they do I think in those terms. They're preaching to the choir here obviously but this is what's happening and the PSYOP is so obvious It's completely bullcrap It's good though you have to give them, come on they got the numbers those are magic numbers, the angel number I think is in there. Is 764 an angel number?

I think it is yeah I think it is but the whole thing is just like it's just scambola written all over it in terms of it's they get some poor girl chewing her hair okay well you know fabulous that's the best we can get here Seeing angel number 764 frequently means that your guardian angels are trying to communicate with you they're reminding you to stay on track.

Trying to protect you by getting digital ID yeah what is 764 divided by 33 23151 that's nothing, that's no good that's no good but Kash Patel he's he's right there leading, he's the one oh 764 it's not even, it's just a meme as far as I'm concerned, there's no network and then they show these like artwork, obvious AI generated 764 with dripping blood yeah now the question is will we have to have an age verification for our podcasts eventually I think it will happen

well it's gonna be it's gonna be hard eventually now the other piece of information since our podcast actually in many ways can be traced to Europe yeah the likelihood of it happening because of the European servers is higher I think possibly than if it was American based possibly but I mean it still weighs off it's a ways off but it's coming it's past the 4 year limit it's all

coming but then while all this is going on did you hear of core 5 I couldn't find a single report by the way from America, from Britain from your anybody only India News and WION which is just so bad I have 2 clips no I have 2 clips I've decided to start doing this again which is getting the run downs from the beginning they're less than 2 minutes, they're both short but it's the run down there's a point to be made by them but the 2 clips will also I don't want

to play them now but I'm just going to say when you play them it will also not bring any of this, any of the kind of news that we uncover from Times of India which is about us the mainstream media just refuses to cover it the thing about this is it went to a couple of different websites Defense One, I think we both read Defense One let me just tell you what the story is, because I believe this to be true there was a longer version of the national security strategy document

the one that I read right and the longer version which was obtained by Defense One and a couple other people got it goes into more detail and reaffirms a withdrawal from Europe's defense realignment with culturally aligned allies and the creation of a new power block to replace western dominated forums such as the G7 which Trump has complained about and this will be Core 5 or C5 and it will include America, Russia, China India and Japan and each of those countries has its own region

of the world that you'd kind of be responsible for and at the same time the document apparently calls for Austria, Hungary Italy and Poland to exit the European Union that part I'm not so sure I'm not so sure if that really was in there but the idea of C5, Core 5 I think that's totally real and this was that would make sense, it's a good idea that would be a great trading block and I'm sure it's high quality products with the exception of India maybe best price best price yeah cheap goods

yeah I think it's and I'm sure the correct supply chains I mean it's like that I keep remarking you bought one of these too which is that ridiculous knife from Japan oh yeah that thing's amazing with this 67 fold yeah 49 bucks 49 bucks of course it was on sale but even when at the full price which because I've seen these things years ago when the ratio the yen wasn't devalued to such an extreme and that knife is typically was typically $250 wow really that much they used to have them in

some of the Japanese stores around here I never bought one I always admired them but I never bought one because of the ridiculous price it's like I can't afford this $250 knife but 49 bucks I can afford that although it's better if people donated in the show I have to mention that so this longer version of the national security strategy document incorporates themes of cultural revival traditional values and religious identity alongside a reassessment of US global

obligations and I think this was leaked on purpose what? of course it was leaked on purpose and it's shaken everybody in their boots I want to do the rundowns but first I have to play a couple of clips from my boy because he just went off and I'm now thinking that Mark Rutte may have been cut out or something he went off the rails at the Munich security conference he's been going a little more off the rails every

time we've listened to him here we go I'm here today to tell you where NATO stands and what we must do to stop a war before it starts this is literally his keynote at the beginning and what we must do to stop a war before it starts and to do that we need to be crystal clear about this we are Russia's next target and we are already in harm's way we're already in harm's way everybody get under your bed when I became NATO's secretary general last year I warned that what is

happening in Ukraine could happen to allied countries too that we had to shift to a wartime mindset this year we took the big decisions to make NATO stronger at the summit in The Hague allies agreed to invest 5 % of GDP annually in defence by 2035 we agreed to increase defence production across the alliance and we agreed to continue our support to Ukraine but this is not the time for self-congratulation what? this is not the time for self-congratulation for what?

we did it we got the 5% this is not the time for self-congratulation which is a total dutchism by the way but this is not the time for self -congratulation I fear that too many are quietly complacent oh no!

too many don't feel the urgency and too many believe that time is on our side it is not it is not the time for action is now the time for action is now allied defence spending and production must rise rapidly our armed forces must have what they need to keep us safe and Ukraine must have what it needs to defend itself now!

he has a new sales pitch I'm not even sure he's working for Trump I think he's just straight up working for the military industrial complex and they have some boots on the ground to back that up so now his new pitch is hey Russia is spending a lot, if you don't spend you get behind Ambassador I understand the question of course I am aware of fair stages of all the discussions I cannot go into all the details but what I was talking about was primarily focusing on making sure that whatever the

military power of the Russians and at this moment that's considerable given their extreme investments now in defence total defence budget 200 billion dollars and with their purchasing power that's about the same as the whole of European NATO is spending on defence in terms of purchasing power so it's really a lot of money what is your purchasing power?

and they don't have all the bureaucracy we have so they can because he's a dictator take the decisions quickly, easily move to this wartime economy as they have done wartime economy? and that's why they are posing a threat immediately and what we need to do with the security guarantees first of all is to make sure that they will never try again by knowing that our reaction will be as I said devastating that's now the prime focus say what?

it sounds coked up so here's his final pitch, it comes at the end but it's worth it we are all now intimately aware of the geography of Ukraine, we all know what Pokrovsk is in Donbass in Donetsk and that small city of 60,000 people they started to onslaught on that city in the summer of 2024 it is now the end of 2025 they still have not captured it and in the meantime on this front line they are losing last month 25,000 people getting killed if you have a dictator willing

to do this he's a dictator willing to do this because you have this crazy idea of some historical whatever he has it's some historical whatever he has it's just some what he's trying to say is he wants the old USSR back you know then you have to be very careful and we have to stand ready and that's why stand ready, are you standing ready John? are you standing ready? you know the founding city for modern Russia? Saint Petersburg?

Kiev it is crucial that the biggest economy in Europe and that is Germany with it's enormous power has decided in already and then with Chancellor when this government was formed in March even before the government was formed on the leadership of now Chancellor Merz to make this extraordinary investment here it comes I know also in Germany some people are questioning do we really need to do this?

I'm going to tell you something right now I'm going to threaten you if you don't put the money into the weapons of war in this war economy you'll see what will happen if you love the German language and you do not want to speak Russian it is crucial because otherwise this guy will not stop with Ukraine that's I think what we have to be very watchful of so if you don't pay up do you like speaking German? because otherwise you'll be speaking Russian what is going on here?

you know I think that Trump and the whoever is running the country I'm referring back to C5 it has a sense that Europe is so screwed that we really have to get out of there well especially with the

most recent development after months of political wrangling and a flurry of criticisms issued by US President Donald Trump last week, European leaders have come out with a strong response in an audacious move the European Union have decided to indefinitely immobilize Russian assets held in EU countries worth a whopping 210 billion euros an emergency clause in the treaties was triggered the total is 210 billion 90 is at euro clear worth a whopping 210 billion euros an emergency

clause in the treaties was triggered this week to freeze the overseas holdings owned by the Russian Central Bank.

The measure comes just days after Trump labeled Europe a quote, decaying continent and called its leaders weak with one bold move, the bloc was able to push back against external interference and insulate the large sum of money from the Kremlin's war machine the bulk of the assets, some 185 billion euros are held at euro clear, a central securities depository in Brussels the remaining 25 billion are spread in banks across five other EU member states.

Until now the funds have been paralyzed under the traditional sanction scheme which requires renewal by unanimous vote among the member states biannually so that's about the dumbest thing they could have done, of course Russia is now suing euro clear and probably the European Union because by saying, hey it's indefinitely frozen there was a well it was frozen anyway but it had to be renewed every six months yeah but it was still frozen but if you listen to that report carefully, he made it sound

as though that was money being used by the Russians in their war effort yeah which I don't think is true well it can't be true no it's just a bunch of money that's over there that's frozen that was trusted it went to a trusted source yeah and that source is no longer trusted no the source is no longer trusted what kind of idea is that? how does that improve things?

well I think remember they so Ukraine is out of money they're out of money, they need 60 or 70 billion euros like right now so that's why Queen Ursula put the two week deadline in place with the two options, either we go raise this money in the public markets or we take the Russians money and they could not get the 27 state member bloc to all agree on taking the money so somewhere in the treaties which would be the Lisbon treaty I guess somewhere in the fine print it says well you

know if we declare an emergency just like we do over here terrorism or whatever international we can do tariffs because of terrorism whatever so the fine print said you can then evoke this emergency and then you can do whatever you want and now that's exactly what the European commission has done and Euroclear hates it, Belgium hates it particularly because Belgium has not gotten a full protection it's like yeah we'll protect you in most cases but you know if you get Russian boots we're not

going to do anything for you so that's a mess at the same last night at this dinner I spoke again to my buddy

my new friend from the department of war now he's a younger guy so he's in his 40s I've talked about him before yeah he's becoming a regular on the show well the problem with him is because he's younger he's really careful you can see him painfully just with his head down when I ask a question he says I've got to think about how I can answer that I've got clearance it's okay you can tell me he wasn't buying that at all so I started off I said hey how's that genai.mil

doing thinking I would break the ice he says that thing is just complete utter bull crap he says what we're really dealing with now remember he's in the modern like the next generation warfare testing department I think that's what it is something good he says we have this new procurement process which is what Hegseth announced no longer are we going to spend billions of dollars and overrun by 100 billion and have something take 10 years before we can finally put it into the battlefield

no we start testing going into the battlefield right away and he says I see the inputs I see the output so I know that the commands we give this stuff he was a little unclear but I'll get to that we give the commands and then the stuff does it he says but I am unable to see what's in the middle I said what do you mean what's in the middle genai.mil he says no Palantir I said oh oh yeah we can't look inside to see it how it actually works and I said I said so this is about

drones he said and I think I followed it by saying man Ukraine must be great for you guys and I think he kind of he went beyond what he should have said he said there's never been a better place to test new stuff and I said this must be a great sales job and he starts laughing and so then we get back to the drones and he says the big thing now is that all these drones are tethered because of the the little wire he says in Ukraine alone half of Ukraine

is strewn with these wires thousands of miles of fiber optic cable yeah there's one yeah fiber yeah I know you know so they're on these long there's pictures of it it's just piles and piles of glass and so and then he said and this is for our here's a tip early tip of the day for you entrepreneurial producers out there he says now everywhere we test this stuff unless it's Ukraine so we have to figure out how to clean it all up and he actually said this is a great business opportunity

for anybody who starts a company cleaning up these thousands of miles of fiber optic cables from testing all this new stuff so there's a tip there's strands not cables yeah strands and I said well shouldn't we have drones with big scissors on them or something you can fly in and snip them end of conversation and then you got silly I know I ruined it I got silly what was I thinking about so I think that this is all remember the people the problem the reason they started doing that with the fiber

optic strands and running it for miles they're just literally miles and miles long is because they haven't come up with the drone technology that will defeat the Russian jamming that was the whole reason to do it because the jammers would send things over into a building or they'd just make a mess and so they had well what are we going to do about well let's have hard wire the damn things okay this is like an idiotic answer to the problem yes I mean they

could also make them autonomous but think about what's really happening this is all the military industrial complex who are the biggest lobbyers in any government around the world I'm sure half the European Union is in their pocket and we know that half of our own congress is in their pocket through APAC and so if you look at and others but indirectly through APAC if you look at the the new national defense authorization act which I have been reading and it hasn't passed so you

know the senate has it and who knows what's going to happen there are multiple provisions for directed energy capabilities in particular high power microwave systems to neutralize drone swarms so they're creating the problem oh look we got drones and like oh now we need to have anti drone technology it's a game it's a big game it really is that NDAA is

pretty funny though we got lots of alien stuff coming up we see we have non human intelligence needs to be recognized as sentient intelligent non human life forms maybe presumed responsible for unidentified anomalous phenomena and we need to have a steering committee on that laughing laughing it's so good mandatory disclosure yes we have to have how many times have we had a disclosure I've seen it so many times now and space force special ops now space force special ops because you know I have

a point to make here with a couple of clips and it does kind of it applies to your C5 which sounds more like an explosive well it's one better than C4 yes laughing it goes to 11 so and these are the NBC this is the two I was going to ask you a question so I decided to do the rundown so just pick up the rundowns from this news broadcast from NBC since they now have Tommy Yamas is the new guy running running the show no where did that guy go that was his name laughing I think he lost

his voice I don't know I thought that was Tom Tom Yamas is a young looking guy he looks like a fat boy Begayse Begayse Jeff Begayse Jeff Begayse so he's gone I don't know what happened to him he

got my attention he seemed to be a good reporter so let's go with the NBC now here's the Friday rundown tonight the new photos from Jeffrey Epstein's estate just released rocking the rich and powerful the big names who appear with him in those images the pictures show Epstein with Donald Trump Bill Clinton, Woody Allen and more the photos released by Democrats as part of a congressional investigation what the images could reveal and what those captured on

camera with the convicted sex offender say about them now the shocking downfall of Michigan's football coach in court today via Zoom, charged with home invasion stalking, breaking and entering, what we're learning about the threats he made to the staffer he was having an affair with dramatic rescues in Washington state people trapped on rooftops thousands forced to evacuate and the threat is far from over King Charles opening up for the first time about his cancer battle what

he's revealing about his diagnosis a terrifying attack in Georgia, a man throwing acid on this woman, seemingly at random, police asking for help in finding the person of interest and what her family revealed to us about her burns alarming new video of a door dash driver caught on camera, appearing to pepper spray a food order how police are responding tonight the comeback for the ages skiing great Lindsey Vonn blowing away the competition the oldest skier ever to win a world cup race, what she

told me about her quest for gold in the Olympics, and there's good news tonight, the Rockettes celebrating 100 years we'll introduce you to one former dancer, still kicking at age 93 Nightly News starts right now this is NBC Nightly News with Tom Yamas good job Tom good read, good read that was really great, good intro alright everybody, get set after the commercial so they of course just start off in that order of the stories, it's interesting enough but, can I just say there's a

million things that's not in there and the thing, domestically at least, you'd think there'd be at least a mention of the multi-billion dollar scandal of the Somalis stealing money from the people of Minnesota, and the United States government you see, if you listen to these reports, and I'm curious for your Saturday rundown, all that it is is things that could happen to you that's what they're going for, what will get your nervous system you could be, you know your DoorDash guy could pepper

spray you I mean, what was all the other things, acid in your face of course, you know your kid could get killed at Brown University it's all about what could happen to you personally, and then we'll whip you up at the end there to keep you

going, because you don't want to go, oh I can't listen to this, hey I could actually be 141 and win a ski medal I could become an Olympic athlete it's so obvious, they've studied this they know, they know what keeps retention, they've got the smart TV's, it's not news, well no it's entertainment, in fact the woman spraying the food order, they have a video of it from a Ring door cam, and it's like, it's not, it's okay well that's, is that network level national news? Gambling? Gambling anybody?

I mean, it's like stupid, meanwhile there's a billion dollars in fraud by a bunch of Somalis, yeah but what about Israel man?

and in fact they don't even mention that either and they, I mean of course the shooting in Australia that's Wall to Wall Wall to Wall, it could happen to you Jew, that's what it is, well actually the Wall to Wall which was annoying was the Brown shooting, because they showed on Fox, they bumped everything and they just kept having the same report which went like this, so Bill what do you know?

Well we don't know anything yet but we do have a couple of people here that can theorize on it, let me ask them what do you know Bill? Nothing, we got nothing, hour later, what do you know? Nothing, we got nothing, it's going to be a press conference, then they're going to tell them they know nothing it's bull crap and so let's go to Saturday, yes and here's the Saturday, this is yesterday's rundown.

Breaking news, the active shooter incident at Brown University, school officials alerting students to lock their doors, silence their phones and take cover for late developments just in also breaking the deadly attack on American troops in the Middle East, two army soldiers and a civilian interpreter killed in an attack in Syria according to the Pentagon, in what officials say was likely an ISIS ambush, tonight President Trump's warning the U

.S. will retaliate, tens of millions on alert for snow and arctic cold, whiteout conditions in some areas causing massive pylons, jackknife trucks and traffic backed up for miles, where this is headed next and the sub-zero temperatures tonight, newly released 911 calls from that deadly UPS plane crash in Kentucky the sky's black the plane just crashed hear from the witnesses who called in just moments after the flight went down, inside the secret mission to get Venezuela's

opposition leader out of the country and after accepting a Nobel Peace Prize what is Maria Corina Machado's vision for the future skiing superstar Lindsey Vonn, keeping up her comeback for the ages, how she finished in her second day at the World Cup, plus a comeback of another kind, as online shopping sets records this holiday season, why those big catalogs we all used to get in the mail are making a return, and there's good news tonight, about hundreds of people stepping up, and lighting up

the night, to spread holiday cheer, and there's good news this is NBC News with Jose Diaz you nailed the formula, yeah of course, what can happen, what bad things can happen to you starts us off it could be anywhere in the world, but it's generally what bad things can happen, followed by somebody succeeding the Lindsey Vonn, why are they doing a Lindsey Vonn twice and they still haven't mentioned the scandal in Minnesota they haven't mentioned this, not on the news, it's not covered, but

they have Lindsey Vonn twice in a row two days in a row, but you see, you have to understand this is our opportunity right now, while every, so mainstream is doing that the alternative media, all the alternative media is doing is denouncing each other, denouncing Israel, denouncing Turning Point USA meanwhile, people tune in to the No Agenda show to get a little bit deeper information, you know like how Russia's going to attack Europe how the core five is being set up and you know

what you're not going to hear that ever until it's officially announced, they're not going to do it it's not interesting and by the way that is why we just get by on this show, because we know how to do it you are the master of trolling audience, you are the master you did it for years, Mac sucks oh, actually quite interesting what they've done over there at Apple Mac is horrible, I mean you were the master of it but it doesn't fit the format even what you used to do is no

longer any good so we just kind of get into stuff we tell people what's happening in the world we deconstruct the news and

what is today, today is the 14th, yes so there is one more day but I tend to keep track of things you know how people say, well that didn't age well I always love that because I've done a lot of those like, well Currie that didn't age well but let me go back to just two weeks ago, on this very show urgent intelligence alert with flashing lights emojis NCTC National Counter Terrorism Center confirms Al Qaeda presence on U.S. soil, imminent multi-city Islamic

terror attacks so now we have Laura Loomer we have Laura Logan, we have Alex Jones we have General Flynn it all kind of comes down to the sleeper cells and she says this sources tell me tonight that the National Counter Terrorism Center has officially determined that Islamic terrorists affiliated with Al Qaeda have infiltrated U.S. soil and are actively planning a series of coordinated Islamic terror attacks this marks the first time federal counter terrorism officials have

openly acknowledged the immediacy of such threats signaling a potential escalation of domestic jihadist activity not seen since the height of ISIS-inspired plots in the mid-2010s she goes on and on and on my sources tell me the attack strategy by Al Qaeda is designed to sow confusion and cripple emergency response these terrorists have been purchasing large quantities of police and first responder uniforms from surplus outlets and online vendors in at least five states these acquisitions

trace through bulk credit card anomalies and CCTV footage suggests a plan to impersonate law enforcement during the assaults, allowing attackers to blend in, direct panic crowds or even execute secondary strikes on fleeing victims and we're back and I should add to that that Candace Owens also said this and she actually said this tweet will age well and here on your No Agenda show, when we hear this kind of thing we just play a jingle because

we've been here before, we've heard it all, we've seen it all it's all a hoax all of it all of it it's all a big hoax it's amazing the Epstein thing of course was a very weak weak attempt well let me play the Epstein I actually have the Epstein NBC report that came right after Tom Yamas got it pushed it to the top and good evening, we begin tonight with those stunning new images from Jeffrey Epstein's estate, the photos are a glimpse into his

high flying world featuring presidents billionaires and celebrities stop the clip for a second people have to realize that they're showing all these, you know, the pictures that were released by Congress or by the Democrats there is nothing in these pictures, no, zero they're boring actually they're just like a bunch of, it's like anybody's roll from their digital camera, it's just stuff the pictures were released by Congressional Democrats and President Trump just responded to them moments ago

from the Oval Office I did like the insinuation of the sex toy pictures did you see those?

no, they didn't show them on this report, I haven't seen them there were a couple of reports that a picture of some sex toys in boxes, you know, like anal intruder and it was a glove with all kinds of ribbed fingers and stuff and I'm thinking to myself I would say 350 million Americans whatever, it's got to be 100 million Americans who are going, oh crap I got that one too, you know it's like, what are you trying to do? what is this trying to tell us?

one photo shows the president from years ago, pictured with six women whose faces have been redacted other photos show several high profile men, you see them here including Bill Gates, Richard Branson and Woody Allen, along with this photo of former President Bill Clinton that appears to be signed by him did you see the pictures at all? there's a guy that looks exactly like Ron Bloom who says it wasn't him? next to Branson who says it wasn't him?

Branson and Woody Allen along with this photo of former President Bill Clinton that appears to be signed by him, showing him with Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell the White House blasting the release tonight saying House Democrats are trying to create a false narrative, and we should note these images do not appear to show anything illegal, but it all comes while the clock is ticking ahead of next week's deadline for the Justice Department to release their Epstein files

Ryan Noble starts us off tonight from Capitol Hill. Wow, he's going to start us off, well I'm very excited about this report now, what can we expect? I can tell you what to expect what you just heard exactly the same stuff, here we go! Tonight, a new trove of photos trove, is it trove? trove, trove revealing more proof of the convicted sex offender's relationship with several powerful men. These pictures, some of these photos? Hold on a sec, do we need more proof?

I guess we already know that this is what's new here, in this report? Nothing. Nothing, but we're still going to listen to two minutes of it so, let's go! with several powerful men. Powerful. These pictures, some of these photos are really disturbing.

These images, part of a tranche of more than 90 It's very disturbing that there's nothing implicating anybody in any of them 5,000 undated photos handed over to the House Oversight Committee and released by Democrats they do not appear to show any illegal activity.

One shows Epstein with a younger President Donald Trump and an unidentified woman Trump also appears in other pictures without Epstein, but with women whose identities are protected by the committee Trump has denied... I hate to interrupt actually, I don't, obviously No, it's what we do Would you call a younger President Trump? Was he President then, 25, 30 years ago?

They always call him Trump or Mr. Trump, but in this case a younger President Trump Yeah, they always, right, they always call him Mr. Trump even when he's, currently they're discussing it, but now that he's with a picture of Epstein and some blonde who's got a big smile on her face who they never identify they say the younger President Trump it's like, no, he's not younger President Trump he wasn't President 30 years ago No Ah, we continue Trump has denied knowing anything about Epstein's

criminal activity See, then they don't call him President Trump, it's just Trump He has photos with everybody I mean, almost, there are hundreds and hundreds of people that have photos with him so that's no big deal, I know nothing about The committee also releasing this photo of Epstein in a bathtub and this one, a signed photo of Bill Clinton with Epstein By the way, the bathtub photo, I'm like that's a pretty normal looking bathtub Yeah, he's just in the bathtub, so what?

Like a two bedroom apartment Oh my God, he's taking a bath, that's not right A signed photo of Bill Clinton with Epstein and his partner, Ghislaine Maxwell Clinton has said in the past that he wished he'd never met Epstein There are also new photos of Epstein with one-time Trump ally, Steve Bannon The two posing for a mirror selfie Ah, we're taking Bannon down In another of the tweets there was a picture on a desk of a woman who appears to be passed out

in a bathtub Other powerful people like billionaires Bill Gates and Richard Branson are in the photos as is film director Woody Allen In one picture, Allen and Epstein are on a movie set Bannon, Gates, Branson, and Allen did not respond to NBC News requests for comment These photos are separate from the evidence held by the Department of Justice Congress voted to force the DOJ to release that material a week from today and congressional leaders are warning

the administration better comply This is a new law with criminal implications if they don't follow it And Ryan, walk our viewers through the timeline now Should we expect more releases like this in the near future?

Yes, Tom, we should expect a steady stream of releases just like this one The committee, of course, in possession of more than 95 ,000 Epstein photos and they also have access to a trove of bank documents which they expect to release in the very near future Alright, I can top this Now, by the way, don't you agree that the second report was identical to Tom Yama's rundown? Because why fill anything?

This is what they do, all these news networks do the same thing They give you what they're going to talk about And then they talk about it And then they talk about it in the same manner that they

told you that they're going to It's just like, what is this, is this third grade? They could have spent some time on the billions of dollars filched from the American taxpayer by the Somalis, I'm telling you And they won't touch it It's so much more interesting Instead, I think your representative Dave Min from California Dave Min, are you familiar with Min? I think he's Asian Dave Min I don't know who he is, he's from LA probably Yeah So he comes on What show was this?

I can't remember what show this was I think it was CNN And he's talking about the photo of the Trump condom Which You know, if you look at it, it was obviously from the long period where Epstein hated Trump It was like a novelty gift, because it has Trump's face on it and underneath the letters It's huge Okay So that's all we're seeing And listen to how this numbskull positions it It's great I do want to get your thoughts on one photo in particular and hope that you can give us some

more detail This image shows a bowl of novelty condoms with a caricature of Donald Trump's face on it.

Can you tell us who took this picture, when it was taken if there's any context that you can provide about this I think we're still working through the details, so we're trying to learn that information as well as the identities and ages We're trying to work through that information, learning the identities and ages of the young women he was standing around The six women whose faces were covered up We may not necessarily release all that information No, of course you won't But again, I

think that photo which was clearly like a gag saying it's huge with Donald Trump's photo on these condom packages just illustrated the very buddy-buddy nature of the relationship between Trump and Epstein The very buddy-buddy nature Did he say buddy-buddy or fuddy-buddy?

Buddy-buddy The very buddy-buddy nature We've seen lots of other indicators of how close they are The question that I think a lot of Americans want to know and a lot of the survivors want to know was Donald Trump someone who actually broke the law did he rape children What? We know of course one girl now a woman Did Donald Trump rape children?

Filed a lawsuit accusing Donald Trump of raping her when she was 13 or 14 years old I believe that that was since taken back She withdrew the lawsuit under threat She claimed that she was being threatened, her family was being threatened But he raped her Everyone in this country has the presumption of innocence until proven guilty But we all know he raped her I am pointing out however that someone did file a claim in a court of laws saying that Donald Trump had raped

her when she was 13 I think the question that a lot of us want to know who else is involved how many people are involved in this network and we know that the cover-up goes all the way to the top It's been a high-level cover-up for decades and decades under both Republican and Democratic administrations Oh brother That's California for you Yeah, that's what makes the state so charming Yes It's extremely charming Particularly Southern California if he's from Los Angeles It's a

beautiful thing It's just beautiful I never lived in Southern California but you did I did, yes, I barely lasted a full year It was so bad Really, it was just horrible

I did not like it at all Everybody, especially Los Angeles Everybody Who are you? What can I get out of you? Who are you connected to? Can you get me an audition?

That's basically it I'd love to hear I have this morning's interview with Maria Carina Machado but before we do that I'd love to get some of your Venezuela clips played This is kind of a rundown on It starts off with a WTF clip which is WTF, clearly We're going to be focusing on Venezuela The latest news is that last night on Wednesday the US government released a video of US forces basically seizing a Venezuelan oil tanker and the pictures are remarkable It's amazing that

you can see this much of a military operation happening in the ocean There's video of US forces rappelling out of a helicopter on ropes to land on the top of this massive oil tanker and then guns drawn they're marching towards the cabin where the crew are You can see them basically taking the ship There's about 10 of them land on it It's really, really remarkable to be able to watch Are you kidding me?

The Houthis was 10 times better I didn't know it was better produced but it brought to mind something I didn't consider Who was taking this video? This is like the moon landing videos where the thing takes off and the camera follows it up Who's running the camera?

I think it was from another helicopter, I think No, it was stationary Because I saw these videos over and over No, it wasn't from another helicopter It was a stationary camera on the boat taking pictures of these guys jumping off their chopper onto the boat Rappelling, John, they were rappelling Jumping So they're rappelling onto the boat and I was thinking about it when this guy was going on and on and on about it on the BBC I'm thinking, wait a minute, it is kind

of fishy No, it wasn't as well produced, overproduced as the one you're talking about The Houthis video was great They had them busting in The point is still, who took the movie? Somebody on the boat Some guy with his cam Look what's happening here Instead of running for cover, he's standing there taking a movie? What kind of a moron is that?

No, there's something fishy about this takeover So that got my attention, that's why I became a WTF critic You're not doing it right Take a page from Candace Owen, you're supposed to say I don't know, just kind of weird vibes about who took this video footage Isn't that interesting?

I'm just saying We're just asking questions I'm not going to be able to get to that type of presentation, or I'll be making her money So this was all part of a BBC report that was on one of their it was on their service, World Service and it was also on one of their podcasts but here we go with the whole thing, part two And that was released shortly after Donald Trump told us that they had seized this ship and said that the US was probably going to keep the oil As

you probably know, we've just seized a tanker on the coast of Venezuela Largest tanker Largest one ever seized actually and other things are happening so you'll be seeing that later and you'll be talking about that later with some other people What happens to the oil on this ship? Well we keep it I guess Well you

have to follow the tanker You're a good newsman, just follow the tanker Follow it Get a helicopter, follow the tanker But we're going to I guess soon we're going to keep the oil The biggest It had to be the biggest ever, didn't it?

The seizure, but if you thought that was a kind of slightly peculiar Trump-esque reaction to what had happened listen to the Venezuelan president who was every bit as strange, here's Nicolas Maduro Don't worry Be happy La la la la la la la Don't worry Be happy Wait a minute This is Maduro? Yeah, you didn't see that?

No, in fact He had his sombrero on He had this long Hawaiian-like shirt He started singing That reminds us of a classic Don't worry Be happy Don't worry Be happy But Putin did a great job The Maduro, he really needs to work on his diction Let's go back, that was good The biggest, it had to be the biggest ever Didn't it?

The seizure, but if you thought that was a kind of slightly peculiar Trump-esque reaction to what had happened listen to the Venezuelan president who was every bit as strange Here's Nicolas Maduro Don't worry Be happy La la la la la la Don't worry Be happy La la la la la la Ahh, just peace Not war Peace Just peace, not war In Spanish immediately before he broke into song He was saying To American citizens who are against the war I respond with a very famous song Now, the U.S. has not

actually declared war on Venezuela at this point and said that they had seized that oil tanker because it was transporting sanctioned oil from Venezuela and Iran as part of an illicit oil shipping network that the USS is supporting foreign terrorist organizations because there are American sanctions on oil from Venezuela so they say that the ship was breaking them and that's why it's been seized.

Yeah I mean it's fair to say most Venezuelan oil goes to China doesn't it in this day and age is not going elsewhere in the world. Listen to these agents these North Sea Nexus agents trying to like make up the story here this is very clear it's cut dry what this is about the sanctions been going on for years with multiple presidents and now all of a sudden well you know by the way I'm looking at that footage that was from a US helicopter it's not stationary

it's taken from a helicopter. Well maybe no whatever the case for sure well still seems okay well good for them taking pictures of themselves the back to this this thing it was the ship that was sanctioned. Yes not the oil no the oil is just the Benny. We had it on our show 900 ships are in this category to be seized. And I think there's if I from what I've read there's about six more that are in imminent threat of being seized like immediately.

Well you know yeah it's a lot of free oil yeah yeah like talking between 50 and 50 million dollars a boatload as good more or less yeah it's crappy it's a crappy it's a real it's a crumb it's a crummy oil we should mention. Don't you have to mix that oil? No it's not that bad it's pretty bad though it's it's a it's a sour heavy sour oil that the typical Brent type oil that comes from under the water hmm as opposed to land-based oils like West Texas which is the some of the finest oil.

Yes yes black gold Texas tea. I was looking into this by the way and the best oil in the world in terms of like pure it's like you pump it out it's basically diesel fuel you can put it in a truck. Where's that?

Algerian Saharan crude hmm it's got almost no sulfur almost no sulfur and the API which is the measure of the of the viscosity basically the AP and the higher the number the better is the highest hmm and it sounds like it's very similar to me it reminds me when I was an air pollution inspector in refineries or my thing we had a little refinery that was shuttered some years ago called the Pacific refinery that got some sort of Bolivian crude oil that was similar

and it they didn't even need a desulfurization of facility at the at the refinery which is unbelievable little tidbit there for you oil and gas guy yes yes this is dynamite insight it's not insight it's a fact all right we go to BBC three but it appears to be a ship that at least in theory was at one stage coming from Iran which obviously is also subject to sanctions and I mean it may well be that all of that is true and that it is sanctioned but it's still a very big

deal isn't it not just because of stealing the oil and putting it somewhere but more much more importantly what it stealing the oil what did he say not just stealing the oil we're not stealing the oil he said stealing the oil and putting it somewhere very big deal isn't it not just because of stealing the oil and putting it somewhere but well considering it's Brits yeah they probably deem that their oil their money you're stealing our money yes I'm sure that these people are

in on it much more importantly what it says about you know the ability of Venezuela to continue to do business in the modern world without Donald Trump putting more pressure Wow I think that's the question isn't it Sarah's is this are we talking about a gradual ratcheting up towards something or not yes I think we are a little bit of background our America says will be very well aware that there have been over 20 u.s. strikes now on boats that America says is

smuggling cocaine to America from Venezuela there has been CIA covert actions sanctioned inside the country according to Donald Trump and a huge build -up of military forces in the region as well at both land and sea forces and Donald Trump muses every so often about the possibility of a land invasion and so I think we don't know exactly what he's going to do but I think we do know what his aim is and that is regime change he wants Nicolás Maduro out in Venezuela

and he doesn't like him he's a far -left ruler who's no friend of the United States no friend of Donald Trump does most of his business with China and Trump has decided he wants to get rid of him I don't know if he has decided whether he's prepared to go to war to do it but I think he's prepared to use a fair amount of American muscle to see how much pressure it will take to topple Maduro who was that speaking on with such authority one of the BBC women I think

it's a woman it can't tell it could be a guy if you think about it hmm but they some sort of you know I think they cited her she's a Middle East or not a Middle East is Latin America expert was that clip three or four that was three okay because there's a clip five is a interesting one but let's go to four and to those who think they've spotted a bit of a flaw in Donald Trump's logic so on the one hand he's telling the world we don't care what you do we're not interested in regime change anymore

we're not even interested in whether you pursue human rights so you don't pursue human rights you just do what you want to do he made that famous speech didn't he I think you were there sir in Saudi Arabia a really cogent speech I thought actually that set out Trumpism and of course more more recently we've had the national security document that they put out the course so much upset in Europe basically saying you know the world should get on with its business except he's

not doing that with Nicolás Maduro and as you suggest there are kind of various reasons why Maduro could be a target he's not a Democrat in fact he'd be almost definitely stole an election and he runs his country incredibly badly and lots of people have to leave that country lots of Venezuelans have left the country we'll perhaps talk a bit more

about Venezuela in a second but there is another reason isn't there why he would say this fits with his overall view of the world a view of the world that was made very clear in that national security strategy that was released last week Donald Trump believes that the United States has a sphere of influence in the Western Hemisphere and that basically Central and South America ought to be if not controlled by the United States that he has the right to make sure that there

are regimes friendly they're doing business with the United States and where he perceives there to be any kind of enemy or opposition that he has the right to interfere and to intervene and that nobody else does he's making it very clear that that this is America's backyard a European or other foreign influence is not welcome in any way whatsoever but that he ought to be allowed to cast it in his own image practically so we have this pressure campaign against Maduro in Venezuela Wow

these people are flipping out they know cast it in his own image what does that even mean how does he do how does he cast Latin America in his own image what is that doesn't even make any sense I'm looking at it through the North Sea Nexus lens and you know right away I mean they know that this is hurting them they know it these people they know what a minute well no of course not but they know they just know through the milieu that they're in you know that people they

talk to you know they talk to sources no I think you're dead right you can stay with that lens as far as I'm concerned let's go to the kicker which is the second the last clip we've seen him interfere in Honduras where they are still in the process of counting the results of a very recent election at Donald Trump intervened in that by saying he was backing the conservative candidate and making threats that the u.s. would stop funding and Honduras if his preferred

candidate didn't win and then of course he released the former president as well he would been serving a 45 year jail sentence in America for drug smuggling he was pardoned by Donald Trump and then if you look at Argentina where his friend Millet is in charge you see a very very friendly relations where a 20 billion dollar loan has just been issued to Argentina in a form of a currency swap to help prop them up and he says very simple about three months ago

port of things about Argentina so what is making obvious is if you are America's friend then you will do very well out of this and if you are in opposition to Donald Trump watch out yes did you hear the little switcheroo she pulled there if you're America's friend things are great but if you're in opposition to Donald Trump wait a minute oh yeah good catch let's hear it again help prop them up and he says very supportive things about Argentina so what is making

obvious is if you are America's friend then you will do very well out of this and if you are in opposition to Donald Trump watch out oh yeah good catch I

thought that was a little low lobe that was a little bit sleazy oh okay well hiya gambling okay yeah I get it right so now this by the way so this is the last clip but this is a guy this is taken a little later in the thing this is an hour of this same discussion so you can be thankful that you've only got about 10 minutes max and probably about eight but this little history thing I thought was good because it adds a this is the last clip I have it

adds a little dimensionality to what's really going on the Roosevelt corollary which would have been a comment when it was the beginning of the last century when Teddy Roosevelt was around that basically said not only must the Europeans not interfere in the Western Hemisphere which is what the Monroe Doctrine said but also America exactly as you saying Sarah America takes to itself the responsibility to interfere where it needs to and and and that's I mean it's

fair to say this isn't new with Trump I mean it's been the the Monroe Doctrine and the Roosevelt corollary have been much acted on you mentioned Honduras Honduras was the original banana Republic and a lot of those bananas if I'm almost all of them owned ultimately by American firms and of course this whole business of America's influence in Central America but also leeching down into South America is nothing new but there's also just this sense now I suppose that with Trump the thing that

people thought might be different was that he wouldn't actually involve himself even there might be all sorts of rhetorical flourishes about those rules this okay this is interesting I'm just gonna stop it here for a second so as part of what I see as an op with the the POTO sphere is that this is continuously being positioned as Trump foreign wars he's a neocon you know why are we doing this why are we why are we in Venezuela why are we in Israel why are the Middle East why are we so

they are read they keep positioning this away from what I wish the president could just come out and say it says look the Brits suck and we're gonna we're gonna cut him off at the knees and all of the EU until they until they you know get rid of all this dumb stuff they've been doing to us for 250 years and so they just keep countering with oh yeah it's neocons and people like Tucker fall for it because I'm instigates it I don't think he falls for it I you give him

more credit than I do I don't think he's that smart I think he just talks to people that he admires he has dinners the wires Tucker mr.

Tucker I do think you're right I have a different opinion of him than you do okay we continue I think he's a little more you proactive and sneaky hmm then you do you think it's just a function of his idiotic surroundings well we saw him on Fox and we were always miles ahead of him and then all of a sudden you know oh the Fox was the Fox show is completely written yeah by you know staff and it was like he was just happy to be there yeah anyway let's keep going

I can Maduro would come into that category oh by the way stop the guy says he says the theater Roosevelt I think the word is corollary but he has his collar he says colliery Collier says crazy I don't know that the British pronounce it that way maybe I think he may be Roosevelt the thing that people thought might be different was that he wouldn't actually involve himself even there might be all sorts of rhetorical flourishes about those rulers he didn't like a Maduro would

come into that category but nobody thought he'd actually well I think a lot of his supporters didn't think because he said that he wasn't interested in getting involved in any more foreign wars and even if he does think that South America is America's backyard you know it's very definitely foreign and we've yet to see if he does have any interest in putting boots on the ground to support these policies even though there has been this huge build-up of forces most of whom are

stationed in Puerto Rico at the moment they could be there as a threat rather than an imminent invasion force but this is not just because Donald Trump thinks that he ought to control the policies of other countries this is absolutely rooted in American self-interest so he would argue that this is about America first yes okay so they understood they do understand it they do at that level yes okay so I want to bring in Maria Karina Machado and this whole thing is just

so interestingly intertwined in his case not coincidence so we actually had ex-special forces smuggle her out of Venezuela with you know with zodiacs in the ocean and apparently you know everybody was aware it was quite the mission it's almost a movie yes it will be a movie and and Ben Affleck will produce it because he's their go-to guy for now but a go-to guy for the for the for the for the pickle farm but it'll it'll only stream on Netflix there's no more awards for you Matt I'm sorry

Ben Ben who knows so Maria wins the Peace Prize she says Trump should have gotten the Peace Prize Trump's like ah this is a nice lady then all of a sudden in the midst of all of this she's smuggled out by ex-special forces with understanding or perhaps we should say collusion well well don't be if you listen that last report from the BBC and then once before they said that the CIA is already embedded in Venezuela loves to be in South America they're everywhere and so they're probably part of the

op that got her out so they got her I only went there for that reason for all we know got got her to Oslo then you know she's like hey hello my Venezuelan people she's on the balcony none of this is by coincidence by the way symbolically on the balcony like Julian Assange well are also like Evita Peron good point Peron I'm sorry yes don't cry for me Argentina and and so now Margaret Brennan has Maria Maria on the show this morning and I think I may have a number of clips

but the first one may be enough help us understand what is going on because we are seeing here in the US an increase in the pressure campaign more sanctions on Venezuelan

individuals and vessels we saw an armed seizure of a vessel carrying oil out of Venezuela selling oil on the black market is really important money for the Maduro regime do you endorse this idea of more seizures and possibly even a blockade look I absolutely support President Trump's strategy and we the Venezuelan people are very grateful to him and to his administration because I believe he is a champion of freedom in this hemisphere and that's why and I say this from Oslo right now I

have dedicated this award to him because I think that he finally has put Venezuela in where it should be in terms of a priority for the United States national security and we do support these actions because Margaret we are facing not a conventional dictatorship this is a very complex criminal structure that has turned Venezuela into safe haven of international crime and terrorist activities starting with Russia Iran Cuba Hezbollah Hamas the Colombian guerrilla the drug cartels operating

freely and directed in partnership with Maduro and his regime and as every criminal structure is suffers is when the inflows from their criminal activities are cut and these in the case of Maduro regime comes from the oil black market to drug trafficking gold smuggling arms smuggling even human smuggling and trafficking there it is it's all about the money that's what we're doing we're cutting off the money and you're gonna see you're gonna see this in Wall

Street liquidity is drying up because it literally is being blown up in the ocean or stolen it's so it's so clear to me but Trump just wants foreign wars he's a he's a neocon neocon so she she's in on the game and she is the chosen one well she's no slouch for knowing what what side of the fence to be on and how to do it it sounds like you support more sanctions and possibly more seizures of oil how could you be for Trump this is wrong but isn't there a risk

that cutting off money will further hurt the already impoverished people of Venezuela isn't that a risk of course what we're doing is for the well-being of the Venezuelan people what we want to do is to save lives but Maduro was the one who declared a war on the Venezuelan people we didn't want a war we are suffering with hundreds of thousands of killings and enforced executions and in the last years and right now I want to be very clear with the international community

the resources Maduro gets are not going to schools or hospitals in Venezuela teacher earns one dollar a day pensions are less than $1 a month our children go twice a week to school the sources the cash the regime gets from these illegal activities goes to buy arms to pay gang members to spy and infiltrate and to even further increase their illegal narcotics activities and so on so these resources are not going for to people they're going for corruption and crime yes exactly that's giving

it to her by the way somebody mentioned one of these reports that in the 60s and 70s Venezuela had the highest per capita income of any people in the world oh really yeah cuz they were dates when they had they just got their oil going they had sitco gas stations all throughout the United States hmm and they had their own refineries and they were making just tons of money and they were redistributing it the way the Arabs do to the people I mean it's like Kuwait you know it gets you don't

have to work there you're a citizen he's sending it back to his masters in England in the city of London but I'll just play two more yes or I love this one just because of a famous phrase here the regime itself has done a number of things they have revoked TV licenses for journalists to broadcast truthfully he has jailed journalists the United Nations says the National Guard targeted political opponents committed sexual violence tortured people and committed

other crimes against humanity so from where you sit is Maduro stepping down enough or do you need the entire regime dismantled in which case that sounds like a country in collapse that's a very good question because certainly Maduro is the head of the structure but it's like any other mafia system you have families or groups that operate and and sometimes even compete among each other there are different degrees in the crimes they have committed certainly those

that have committed crimes against humanity that have been reported by the fact finding missions of the United Nations should face justice local justice and international justice there are other members of the regime or the armed forces that have committed lesser crimes and certainly we will search for justice not revenge but this I'm going to insist what we're leaving right now is chaos Maduro represent chaos we're going to put order order out of chaos anybody is isn't

that something that we have somewhere isn't that or is that New World Order order out of chaos I can't remember all right last one would that include u.s. peacekeeping troops or other troops on the ground I cannot answer that question right now I don't think that's the case Trump told me not to talk about it she knows that that's she's at the cliff edge and she doesn't have the information to say one way or the I don't think they didn't tell her not to talk about it they don't know I

cannot answer that question right now I don't think that's the case there are other countries that have offered support as well in order to strengthen democratic institutions what yeah the government elect is in place but that we will have to address that once we have the you know the government elect in place and and put in order bringing order back to our country and one thing that you mentioned before about that you know the refugee crisis it's going to be exactly the contrary here

we go the day Maduro goes you will see tens of thousands hundreds of thousands of Venezuelan migrants coming back home from the United States and all over the world I mean our diaspora is desperate to go back to Venezuela so even from that perspective it is a win-win situation to have democracy in Venezuela win-win it's a win-win twofer it's good it's good so it's probably true because Venice I haven't been there but my understanding is absolutely beautiful country I don't know

I've never been I've never been we should

go you barely get to a meetup in your hometown but kind of on the tip of bleeding the the North Sea Nexus dry this didn't get of course any real play in the news but this is our Secretary of State Rubio talking about NGOs the United States has spent billions of dollars over the years and helping with health strategies all across the world what we learned over time and especially after coming here is that oftentimes and I'm oversimplifying it but this is an accurate

description what would happen is we would go to a country and say we're going to help you with our health care needs then we would drive over to Western Virginia Northern Virginia somewhere find an NGO one of these organizations give them all the money tell them go to this country and do their health care program for them that NGO would then take about you know some percentage of that money for their overhead and administrative costs and by the time it got down to it

the host country had very little influence it was sort of imposed on them and only a percentage of the overall money ever actually reached the patients and the people on the ground that we were trying to help because of these costs this makes no sense no so why are we hiring American and international NGOs to go into other countries and run health care systems that are parallel and sometimes in conflict with the health care systems of the host country if we're trying to help

countries help the country don't help the NGO to go in and find a new line of business and so that's what the model that we're breaking we're not doing this anymore we are not going to spend billions of dollars funding the NGO industrial complex while close and important partners like Kenya are either have no role to play I have very little influence over how health care money is being spent bottom line is if you want to help a country work with that country there

goes a big network well that's this long overdue and it's gonna take forever to really break it up we have a problem in the Bay Area we had a thing that this isn't yesterday's news I was gonna clip it I didn't which was a news story about this little park over there by the by the one of the San Francisco docks it's a supposed to be a kids park and they see but three million dollars together to build them they had the park all outlined that would put the playground up three

million bucks gave it to an NGO the NGO paid yourself a bunch of salaries didn't do anything the money's all gone yeah of course of course no and they're all we're investigating it they're not gonna do anything about it these guys these NGOs are just siphons for just stealing money good at it we're so dumb we should have had an NGO a long time ago I agree I agree it's probably still not too late we're helping educate we are here to educate people on

news disinformation oh yeah that's great yeah we should probably give some money to these guys we're dumb yeah we're dumb that's too bad I mean we're truthful but we know we do our we do a good job of it and it's unfortunately people don't appreciate as

much as they could let me ask you a question that's because we're not pushing it hard enough so there's still some but I think it's mainly Europe and probably British NGOs etc active little update on Bulgaria with the Gen Z or as we'd like to say Gen Z protests we've had some success tens of thousands mass in the streets of Sofia as they have done for the last few weeks and in several other Bulgarian cities it's been a gradually growing movement driven by dissatisfaction

with the government accusations of corruption economic grievances and a demand for new leadership in common with similar protests in other countries it's younger people Gen Z who are at the forefront with a demand for change united under the slogan aimed at those in power you angered the wrong generation we truly hope our actions will lead to real change what I can say with certainty is that we will not stop we are prepared to continue with active

protests uniting students from across Bulgaria and abroad I believe that corruption the way we keep on living and the money that's actually being stolen that's the huge problem for us and I truly hope that there will be some youthful energy boiling over the growing anger and sheer strength of numbers appears to have brought about the resignation of the minority center-right government a move unanimously agreed by MPs therefore I inform you that before the vote of

no confidence today the government resigns the government's fall follows the scrapping of a controversial budget plan it would have been the sixth vote of confidence since January and comes just 20 days before Bulgaria joins the euro in the new year uh-huh right on time and the new is a good one yeah just before they're gonna get in the euro yeah and the new thing is pig noses that's the new Gen Z thing you know like a carnival pig nose yeah you put a little pig nose on yeah that's a new

thing if we see that here we'll know what's up and I just can't help but

think that you know we're not doing it to ourselves yet well we are not doing it to ourselves but it's obvious that the Brits and are still trying to it may be this whole pot o'sphere denouncement scenario led by clearly British operatives although I think Candace just doesn't even know man we both saw that interview with her husband George Farmer and I didn't clip any of it but what what a bunch of horse manure that is oh yes I asked her to marry me after 17 days cuz she was just

awesome yeah the whole it's a very we that should be linked in the show notes actually put it in the show notes for that very reason yeah it should be watched by everybody but it's part of a five -hour interview which I watched only could watch a little bit at the beginning and the five-hour interview is actually more interesting if people can get to it it's on YouTube five hours I'm oh man they'd let you do anything so five hours of yak yak yak and it's just nothing but hate for

hate for America hate for America they the two of these two guys are mocking the way we pronounce words and they did and they especially the word water they have what make it make a bunch of stimulus and they're laughing at American isms and laughing it what a country we are this guy is at the center of British elites at the Bullingdon Club at Oxford which is an all -male dining society with only I mean this is so alums are David Cameron Boris Johnson yeah these are really these are good guys

he was politically active no you know he started turning point UK with his own money and then he winds up marrying Candace she becomes a unwitting dupe operative yes and and and right on cue there's our buddy Tucker he platforms Milo you remember you remember how Milo got in because you know Milo came exploded and then went yeah I can't remember how he how I looked it up but I look canceled like it was during the era of the show I think he was so yes 2014 Gamergate that's when he came

in yeah he came in yeah that's when he came but he was doing some stuff with Breitbart I think but he came in with Gamergate branded himself he was really by any heat by the way he came in he was extremely talented yes I thought he did his presentations were stunning he was a good debater he's a master debater he is a major master debater and he did the dangerous campus tour to get everyone all riled up remember whatever wherever you went there were

riots right that's before he called other people with to change my mind yes yeah yeah no he was early on that and he started with the whole I'm the dangerous faggot that was his his brand but then he he went rogue and he started talking about he started defending sexual relationships between men and boys as young as 13 and then he got pulled I mean they CPAC can't do

it the rails and they pulled a plug on Simon and Schuster canceled his book deal Breitbart kicked him out but then you know he started to come back when you know this is classic you know he's like oh I'm ex-gay now that's what he was on Tucker for knob I'm the ex good by the way did you know that he interned for Marjorie Taylor Greene no yeah and he was the one didn't see the I did not see the Tucker I should I guess I should watch the Tucker interview yes he but he was the one that orchestrated

the dinner with Kanye and Nick Fuentes at the with Trump that's not a way I understand it though that's what he says that's what he says but you know to me he's just you know they just sent him in on a missile as a heat-seeking missile go in there you know if their goal is to say the British okay City of London the crown everybody who hates America right and spooked out by mi6 yes what you do is you'd go after the biggest Gen Z organization in the world and blame

it all on Israel and we know that the hate the Jews this is I mean I'm generalizing but you know they are the ones that say hey go live there we drew this circle that's your spot now in 1948 and before that it was it was was it Rothschild didn't wasn't it was it Rothschild's who who set up the who sent the letter the bow for the bell for declaration the bow your declaration yeah so you know they're they're mucking more background on what else he talked about on the on Tucker

and what would you think the point of it was to reintroduce him so that he could get on Tim pool then he can yell about everybody and just cause more confusion and keep the fire going can this is so you think I'm gonna go the rounds the rounds which we can almost identify Tim fool he's already probably perhaps he already was on Tim pool he already did it the whole Tim pool thing oh yeah he'll be a Megyn Kelly if he hasn't already let me see let's see we can probably find

out yes he's he's been said you get his touring schedule it's on the Milo's calm you know no touring schedule it'd be the same old same old podcasts that everyone defends when we ever mention anything about him on our show oh yeah you're throwing bricks at the glass in the glass you're shooting inside the tent man that's the word that's the phrase no no no no this I truly believe this is meant to destabilize Gen Z in our country that's a different approach but if you just look okay he's been on

Candace in September Legion of skanks oh we got to be on that show Legion of skanks skank fest in Las Vegas gank fest yes with Tim pool and Stephen Crowder I guess it's some kind of live Oh Pierce Morgan hello another mi6 stooge piece Pierce Morgan and then Tucker Carlson and now he's been at this is what I have so far and then Tim pool it's also obvious get these limeys out of our country yeah and these pilgrims get them all out mm-hmm Pilgrim Society look it up everybody yeah Tucker's

a big big shot in that thing we're not we don't know that for sure but it could be we're pretty sure I'm I'm really research I can't find it I can't find it but I do think we should be at skank fest next year I mean there's no reason why we can't be at skank fest skank fest to skank fest what is the point of it I have to look it up now what you're a skank like it which is a which is a deplorable woman who is just kind of a worse than a slut let's find out you're

gonna have a convention of your of your own types that's supposed to mean skank fest New Orleans is a three-day comedy festival described as a blend of Mardi Gras punk rock shows and comedy heaven it features stand -up comedy live podcasts surprise guest appearances tattoo artists a vendor village and late-night events oh so they're so they're only using there's it's not really for skanks no it's just a Dave they've co-opted the word yes to make it into some sort of a

dubious festival it's kind of like the Edinburgh

festival in America skank fest sounds good skank fest well maybe we just missed the invitation in the email I don't think we missed anything nobody cares about us they don't like us no because we should we should inside the tent man let's talk about the Congo Oh Africa news all right bye everybody now the only reason I want to play this I'm gonna put I have a series of Congo clips but I want to play the this clip from the light is I didn't plan on the last show plus another clip

I want to play first the Congo humiliation clip is 23 seconds okay here we go the resumption of fighting in the east of the Democratic Republic of Congo has been described as a humiliation for President Trump by the foreign minister of neighboring Burundi Rwandan backed m23 rebels have marched into the Congolese government's last bastion in South Kivu province the advance came less than a week after the u.s. brokered a peace deal BBC News yeah this is a humiliation for Trump according to the

BBC let's go to this other clip this is a Southeast SE Asia war okay the u.s. president Donald Trump says he will telephone the leaders of Thailand and Cambodia to try to convince them to end the military clashes along their shared border that have continued for a third day mr. Trump helped broker a ceasefire between the two countries in July but on Monday Thailand carried

out airstrikes with Cambodia responding with rocket fire now Southeast Asia correspondent Jonathan head is on the border the sound of Cambodian rocket launchers firing salvo after salvo into Thailand the war president Trump said he'd ended has fled up again on the Thai side of the border the rockets can be heard exploding killing and injuring soldiers and ripping apart houses which thanks to a swift evacuation are empty Thai artillery can be heard constantly firing back in temporary

evacuation centers all along the border in both countries hundreds of thousands of people have sought safety for the second time in five months the u.s. has urged the two governments to return to the ceasefire brokered by President Trump speaking to supporters he sounded confident he could do it again who else could say I'm gonna make a phone call and stop a war of two very powerful countries Thailand and Cambodia they're going at it again he's no good so the BBC's going after Trump

for being a and if you listen to that right in the middle there they said the way they phrased it was the war president the war president Trump tried to stop but when you hear it just as a single standalone the war president war president Trump yes which I thought was genius in terms of a propagandistic usage very good but good

job but it was like the BBC has done this and that was from like last you know a couple days ago today they're door not today but yesterday they're still hounding Trump for being a phony baloney can't really stop wars and let's go play this clip Congo war one it's been barely a week since Rwanda and the Democratic Republic of Congo signed a peace accord with President Trump in Washington to end the fighting in eastern areas of the DRC but it hasn't stopped the

fighting the United States has blamed the m23 militant group backed by Rwanda for the violence now Rwanda has accused the Congolese army of ignoring the ceasefire I spoke to our global affairs reporter Richard Kogui in the Kenyan capital Nairobi and I began by asking him where this latest bout of fighting has broken out the fighting is taking place in eastern Congo specifically in a region called South Kivu province and so this is the area that does

border Tanzania and separated by Lake Tanganyika and so what has happened is that the m23 rebel group has been advancing further into South Kivu province after taking over the biggest city which was called Bukavu and now they have seized a second largest town where the Congolese government had its base called Ovira Richard the two sides signed a peace accord a week ago and now we have Rwanda and the DRC blaming each other for this new bout of fighting yes it's just a typical of

situations as they do evolve in this part in terms of this conflict the DRC is arguing that it's protecting its territorial integrity it wants to retake in a territory that it lost to the rebels it says that it wants to protect its civilian population and stop the advance of the Rwandan rebels really boring but it's war and it's Trump's fault the war president we all know it he's the war president yeah it's it's we're under attack man glossed from the sounds of it that's

why I'm really listening to the BBC a lot more because I get to pick up these subtle little these these needling that they keep doing well let me they play it so straight oh yeah no we're great well let me stop you right there since we're at two hours in one minute I'm glad you stopped yourself because I need to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you the man who put the sea in cholera say hello to my friend on the other end the one the only mr.

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for people who don't listen to the pre show alive is that Darren O'Neill for the end of the show mix you're gonna hear it on today's show did a thing a song called no agenda Christmas yes which is a fabulous AI produced tune with lyrics probably by Darren yeah and but the song itself is just it's a hit it's it's a toe-tapper too and it's a toe -tapper which is important and and it gets a couple of people in the chat no no no a hundred a hundred people in the chat room who hate Adam and they

hate Darren and they hate the show they don't donate they hate the show they're haters and they bitched and moan all at once I guess and Adam caught it and he got he got irked about it and he's been irked ever since he's been irked I have been irked because it's just it's so annoying I mean why do you show up

oh I know why because I respond to it obviously you know we're boomers we're boring you know I think I just need to close that could be true but it's good point there yeah it's very good point boy well not everybody thinks we're boring some people see value in us but I understand I understand you know that change is hard it's

it's hard to hear that you know that we disagree with your favorite podcasters who you're all addicted to yeah man yes okay Fuentes is right man yeah he's awesome yeah I like Fuentes's show oh yeah you watch it a bit of it here and there don't you I don't consistently do it but when I do it I've always enjoyed it he's a he is a he is a if it was a different media landscape he would be on TV or locally at least at doing the locally well locally I mean but he could be network he had that he

has the chops he never flubs he for a guy who's an amateur supposedly he doesn't flub he doesn't stammer he's he's slick he's got a good voice and you know it and he's and his modulates well and he's funny he's extremely funny and and I don't understand what the big complaining is well because because he says Hitler was great and Stalin was great and he explains what he's meant by that the only thing in particular I'm not gonna be sit here and defend Fuentes

because he's doing himself but I'm gonna do this yeah doing a good job he goes on he he thinks Stalin is great as a hero as a heroic figure that needs to be studied he thinks it then he'll follow that by saying he was a horrible person a sick minted deranged creep but that doesn't mean he was he should be ignored it in the scheme of things how does the guy like that manage a large country how did he do it and how do you stay in power so long that sort of thing is why he thinks he's great

you are defending him that's great it's reasonable yes no I'm not against him I'm not against anybody but he's part of the system well he is definitely locked in then he's got a crush on Candace and there's something to going on between those two and I don't get that at all so there's so it's part of that oh you forgot our local podcast nexus you got to call him a fan every you got to call every I denounce you you're a fed to John C Dvorak that's that's the new thing you

gotta call each other a fed yeah oh you just ooze fed slop I watched too much of this obviously yeah you're obvious yeah you're on the off to deep end no I mean but I I'm telling you people are watching this stuff they're into it there's people that are doing the presentations are good at it Candace is no slouch definitely she is a really good presenter and she does her she does her act beautifully okay went days the same thing okay okay and and Tucker is a pro yes and I mean

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have people making artwork and they upload that at no agenda art generator comm so we can choose something fun for art and even though we explained what we're looking for it's still very difficult I guess the LLM's just haven't figured out exactly what we need art wise however blue acorn did a pretty good job with his ITM which was kind of the takeoff I don't know if anyone else caught it but the font wars in a way I think that's what what it was is that isn't that how we took it

what he called it I think oh he really actually called it the font wars yeah let me take a look but it was it was a this is what we need the piece pops you know it just popped out of the page and when it pops like that that makes you want to look closer if there are any fun details in there and he did a good job and

let's see what else there was let's see wow there's a lot of art today already was there anything else we liked no but I'm liking Jeffrey Ray's a Santa cross Merry Christmas to coming up with instead of reindeer it's a bunch of babes yeah no I don't like that yeah I'm sure you do go put it on your sub stack on the Oasis on the Oasis a lot of people tried to do font wars then there was some now available on Pornhub which I was all for you you were against that

there were some people tried some dogs some robot dogs but in general if you don't have a good idea your arts not gonna just it's not gonna work no matter how

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we have the best producers in the universe and he knows a lot about potash because we we didn't really know everything except a lot comes from Canada he says there's a couple of different forms of potash you can buy there's a myriad of potash which is a potassium chloride and sulfate of potash which is potassium sulfate we use sulfate and the price went up over 35% from this year Canada does produce some but I think China and India produce more I checked and

the myriad was about the same price it's already a cheaper product anyway this mostly comes from Canada because of the chlorine content the myriad isn't good for fruit or vegetable plants but it's okay for grasses which includes rice aha I think the rice likes the chloride anyway oh yeah my rice loves chloride some states can produce potassium I know Utah is able might not be enough to do I see anyway I see not sure what that means but I but like with a lot

of things regulations have pushed it offshore anyway if they add a tariff on the myriad it will hurt the grain farmers fruit and vegetables probably already have been paying extra on the sulfate because most of its coming from tariff places and he says thanks for all you do please more fertilizer talk well I have a bonus clip in a double bonus clip right now because of that note okay first of all let's listen to there's just a basic story about the Belarus prisoners the

BBC clip okay Belarus has released more than 120 prisoners including the Nobel Peace Prize winner I yes be a Yatsky and the prominent opposition activist Maria Kolyesnikova it comes after the United States agreed to lift sanctions on the country no it's not much to that but let's listen to the PBS clip we're lifting sanctions on the country as a dimension Belarus freed more than 100 prisoners after the United States said it would lift sanctions on the close ally of Russia among those pardoned by

Belarusian leader Alexander Lukashenko were two opposition leaders and Alice Bialyovsky who shared the 2022 Nobel Peace Prize earlier US Special Envoy John Cole said the United States would lift sanctions on potash fertilizer one of the nation's most important

experts now Cole said improving u.s. Belarusian relations could lead to more prisoner releases president Lukashenko who should get a tremendous amount of credit for this I think that he is moving he wants a more normalized relationship with the United States we're moving in that direction Lukashenko is an authoritarian leader known for dealing harshly with dissidents Western nations have sanctioned Belarus for cracking down on human rights and for letting Russia...

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a tick-tock clip this is a woman who is so they're all women when's the last time you put all you do you have played a guy I have played a guy you played a guy but it's mostly women and this to me is a reflection of either I don't know what level of stupidity this is this is a woman who is your lack of education or don't or someone who doesn't understand the mechanism of government or the mechanism of society it's just baffling to listen to this woman rant about immigration

can someone smarter than me help me very genuinely understand why I'm supposed to care if people immigrate to the u.s. illegally like obviously some people are just racist and some people are just stupid but even like left -leaning people say you know well you got to do something about the border why could I don't understand why this should bother me in any way if as many people as want to come here so if somebody could help me understand that that would be great

because right now I just don't know why I should give a shit I found this a I found it to be a very fascinating commentary because it's like yes because how does anyone get to that position where you don't understand that the burden on society and the taxpayer on the on the infrastructure and all the rest of it you know if you're just gonna have unfettered immigration from everywhere in the world and police issues and all the rest of it and you don't see

it as she's this is bullcrap she understands that she just wants like you have a different this is the difference between you and me on in regards the same thing with Tucker the way we see him it's a different look you think everyone is cynical and they're all acting no I think that they want to get played on the no agenda show or they want to get likes that's it that's it all about these people thrive on people telling them you're an idiot there are people like that who can thrive on

that you were bummed out when somebody said that they didn't like a Darren O'Neill clip yeah but I've been doing it for over 18 years so I must be liking something and you but you got thick skin according to that one note yeah there it

is you need some you need to give some tips hey we have we have the AI I already gave it away we have the time person of the year persons of the year you've which is is time magazine still a magazine I think it's just only online well they've chosen their persons the six men and two women on the cover of time magazine are who they have dubbed the architects of artificial intelligence and their person of the year among those on the beam are met as Mark Zuckerberg AMD chief Lisa Sue

open a eyes Sam Altman and chipmaker Nvidia's Jensen Huang we named the architects of AI as the person of the year this year because we were really looking at the people who had the biggest influence on this year according to the magazine those people have reoriented government policy and altered geopolitical rivalries and become an everyday tool for millions today open a eyes chat GPT counts over 800 million daily users its competitor Google Gemini boasts 650 million

time also pointed to a darker side of AI in light of looming job displacement for companies looking to replace their workers and darker still lawsuits have been filed in the wake of suicides and mental health crises alleging chatbot psychosis experts are also wary of just how the tool will affect humanity and if it will affect all of us equally this technology has a great potential to make things more efficient more productive to improve living conditions the question is will it do so on an

equal basis will it do so for everybody and right now we see cleavages opening up be it between superpowers or be it between family members or be it between people on the countryside and in big cities the magazine has named a person of the year since 1927 but this is not the first time technology took the title in 1982 it was the computer the computer the computer was the person of the year there was a great post by this guy named Peter Gernus G

I R N US on X and and I saw it the first time I came around I am but then it kept coming back and so I wanted to read this and this may be bullcrap but it sound it sounds plausible and it's about him deploying AI in his corporation I'll read it last quarter I rolled out Microsoft co-pilot to 4,000 employees $30 per seat per month 1.4 million dollars annually had you seen this I called it digital transformation the board loved that phrase they approved it in 11

minutes no one asked what it would actually do including me I told everyone 10% product 10 10 X productivity that's not a real X that he says that's not a real number but it sounds like one HR asked how we would measure 10 X I said we'd leverage analytics dashboards they stopped asking brother three months later I checked the usage reports 47 people had opened it 12 had used it more than once one of them was me I used it to summarize an email I could have read in 30 seconds

it took 45 seconds plus the time it took to fix the hallucinations but I called it a pilot success success means the pilot didn't visibly fail the CFO asked about ROI I showed him a graph the graph went up and to the right it measured AI enablement I made that up he nodded approvingly we are AI enabled now I don't know what that means but it's in our investor deck a senior developer asked why we did why we didn't use Claude or chat GPT I said we needed enterprise-grade security he

asked what that meant I said compliance he asked which compliance I said all of them he looks skeptical I asked him for a career development conversation he stopped asking questions Microsoft sent a case study team they wanted to feature us as a success story I told them we quote saved 40,000 hours I calculated that number by multiplying employees by a number I made up they didn't verify it they never do now we're on Microsoft's website global enterprise achieves 40,000 hours of productivity

gains with co-pilot the CEO shared it on LinkedIn he got 3,000 likes he's never used co-pilot none of the executives have we have an exemption strategic focus requires minimal digital distraction I wrote that policy the license renews next month I'm requesting expansion 5 ,000 more seats we haven't used the first 4,000 but this time we will drive adoption adoption means mandatory training training means a 45-minute webinar no one watches but completion

will be tracked completion is a metric metrics go in dashboards dashboards go in board presentations board print presentations get me promoted I'll be SVP by q3 I still don't know what co-pilot does but I know what it's for it's for showing we're investing in AI investment means spending spending means commitment commitment means we're serious about the future the future is whatever I say it is as long as the graph goes up and to the right yeah that is a wonderful little mini essay

I thought it was good the guy no that's that was really funny and it's classic yeah it's and it's apt accurate yeah completely accurate yes and so then we get this executive order the other day President Trump says the AI industry can't excel under a patchwork

of state regulations we have the big investment coming but if they had to get 50 different approvals from 50 different states you can forget it because it's not possible to do he says one uniform federal framework would help the u.s. win the AI arms race that's the goal of an executive order signed Thursday not doing this would be the greatest gift to China and other countries the order also creates a litigation task force to challenge state AI laws excluding those related to child

safety protections I don't think states should have the ability to regulate an AI Indiana Republican congressman Marlon Stutzman supports the order that way we put America at the forefront and leading on that issue rather than being divided amongst ourselves but limiting states when it comes to AI hasn't proven popular in Congress a measure that would have banned states from regulating AI for 10 years was removed from the big beautiful bill over the summer and recent efforts

to include a provision barring states from regulating AI in the annual defense spending bill failed to we took that provision out I think it's pandering to AI companies Virginia Democratic congressman Eugene Vindman says Congress does need to regulate executive order I need to find a balance for appropriate regulation for this industry House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffrey says he doesn't think the order is legal and ultimately it's gonna get struck down in court the order also threatens

to restrict certain funding to states with AI laws I'm against all this isn't this the whole point of states rights that we should be able to determine our own destiny I I'm all for it I think having states being allowed to create dipshit laws over technology items it just becomes all of a sudden now you got to go through California because California has some restriction so now everybody has to obey what California wants because of the internet and everything goes through California no I'm

all for it they've got to stop some of these states from doing this but I don't care about I mean states rights yeah for when it has to do with rights not when it has to do with something like this I'm all for it I like the term dipshit laws you should be in Congress that would that would have shut him down now here's the good news good news is that they have not been able to crack AI podcasts and this cropped up or

this propped up popped up in a report here from the semaphore the Washington Post's top standards editor on Thursday decried frustrating errors in his new AI generated personalized podcasts whose launch had been met with distress by its journalists I guess they the post has been rolling out personalized AI generated podcasts for you I don't even know what that means so in the release the paper says users are able to choose preferred topics and which hosts AI

host and you can shape your own briefings select topics set length pick their hosts and soon even ask questions using ask the post AI technology but it doesn't work no you know we have a real I got to ask you some advice so we have deemed

we have we have come up with nomenclature there are now so-called TTS podcasts but TTS text-to-speech okay and so they'll be like a podcast of a reddit thread which is all read by by AI and it's I mean I don't know if you could even listen to it I mean some people might the problem is there are these text-to-speech outfits who will create a podcast and within one day it has 2 ,000 episodes and 2,000 episodes you know it's a problem for the podcast index you

know we're a small operation based on donations I might add and so you know it clogs up the system it slows everything down and there are people just out there just it's basically spam but who can't you just do spam eliminations and not allow those to get on the index at all well you can but that's kind of the question like it is it is it really spam is it something that people want nobody wants it I don't think so either but you know you have to you can't let this this

is like there's I'm trying to think of how to analogize it but there's something that you can there's I think you have a rationale that you can develop because it's out there to say no you can't do this this is not doesn't oh we can say it I mean we're just kind of thinking what what should we do no that's what I'm saying you have to develop the argument that's solid yeah but as I would say it's like spam it's like we remember in the early days of usenet yes I remember

the early days of usenet and every time somebody came in with some advertisement they try to slip on the usenet they'd get blasted and thrown off I remember the first time I came into usenet and I I don't remember what I posted but immediately there's corporations here MTV oh this is the end of the internet that's right and they weren't wrong you're right that's where that guy's voice came from they weren't wrong they were wrong they

were right they had a point they had a point by the way there's been a lot you know we had that clip on the last show about Instacart and grocery prices I've been watching a lot of YouTube videos from consumer reports and other consumer organizations man there are big companies of which Instacart is really a yeah they deliver to you but that's not really what they do they are doing dynamic pricing on everybody based upon what they think you can pay even in store

with the you know with the what do you call the digital pricing price tags that so you don't really have a price tag on the product but it says on the shelf it'll change it's like okay this is now $4.99 and then you know you take it in and scan the barcode and it's $4.99 someone else would be paying $4 or you know like $4.30 and I know nuts I've never seen any evidence of this oh it's I'll send you one of these videos I mean is it happening in a store near you it's oh it's

happening in every single store every single yes and you could and so they put like 20 people in a room and they all ordered directly from a store not through Instacart and even those people all got different prices it's it's it's kind of in a way it's what uber has been doing for a while you know we'll just charge you whatever you think you're willing to pay but they're doing with groceries well yeah it's not gonna fly well it's been flying apparently for quite a few years but when you look at

the price of groceries it's not necessarily based the point is you're saying that the whole system is turning into a bait-and-switch operation it's that's what this is it's anti -competitive because they they are all doing it so all the grocery stores are using this system so instead of competing with each other based upon price and service and quality of product they're all they're all kind of using the same systems and just charge whatever they can so it's anti-competitive we have grocery

store executives that listen to this show and they will they will respond to this and explain it to us what's going on anonymity always assured but of course yeah unless they want credit unless they want to lose their

job not necessarily and then the latest here it comes you're gonna be paying more for your AI it's it's gonna happen because when these guys jump in it's all over well this is definitely an earthquake in the entertainment industry where this is a three-year licensing deal between the Walt Disney Company and open AI users will be able to create short clips up to 30 seconds in duration using Sora which is open a eyes video generation platform and those clips will feature more than

200 characters from the Disney Universe from the Marvel Pixar and Star Wars universe that obviously covers everything from Mickey Mouse to Elsa from Frozen to Iron Man Captain America and Darth Vader Disney is also making a 1 billion 1 billion dollar equity investment into open AI they will that will allow them to create more content for Disney plus create new services and tools and also make some changes internally rolling out chat GPT for employees of Disney

now what this deal includes is perhaps just as important as what it doesn't include the deal actually does end up in excluding actor likeness and voices so essentially those users using that platform will not be able to use actual faces and voices of human actors if you think back to that historically long actors and writer strike back in 2023 that was a major major concern for Hollywood at the time oh no these actors will all be licensing their likeness in their voice yeah it

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see his face but I can't get his name that's too bad I'm not gonna tell you but it is now time for John's tip of the day we're gonna go back to booze recommendations oh how about how about a life tip like our Jen wire yeah I don't have any life tips except that that you're you're you're stealing from the audience by not telling us who did that clip oh you want me to tell you I can tell you yeah who Burt Reynolds oh yeah okay so they this is a screwball when you got to listen

carefully because this is a I consider this to be a secret because the quality of this product is generally terrible mm-hmm and unless you are clued in one way or another you will never drink this stuff it's called grappa hmm who hasn't had grappa a lot of people have had grappa I've had plenty of grappa and I'll give you the story so I've been you know I was probably in the late 80s maybe the early for the late 80s I was in New York I was going to rest I think it was the call City Hall was a

famous restaurant at the time and and we had a sommelier and I always get along with sommeliers because they you know they size you up if they figure you know what you're doing you give you a I think you're okay and so and they give you the good wine and so at the end of the meal is and the guy was French he's a French sommelier so that added a little impact to this he says what do you you'd like to do after dinner stuff I said yeah I'm a cognac guy so you oh you like cognac he says

and he's French he says do you ever have grappa and I said yeah I've had grappa it's everyone's had grappa it's terrible because most grappa is terrible most grappa tastes like toilet water or kerosene or fusel or turpentine depends yeah he says oh really he says well I've got a grappa here that I want you to try and if you don't like it you can just give it back you want to pay for it that's a deal it's always a deal of course then he caught me on the thing anyway but

so he brings out this grappa it was fabulous and so then I realized that I that grappa has a protective layer of lousy grappa that keeps people from getting to the good stuff because they make so little of the good stuff they don't need a run on it like scotch and the prices go to $500 a bottle for a 15 year old you know product it's a protection racket it's Italian it took me a minute yes of course protection racket gotcha and so I have a couple of grappa brands that are

universally good and one in particular which is always gets 98 or 100 points fair everybody around the country you'll be able to find it if you dig around enough if you can't you're not gonna get it at Costco but this but we had it last night or the night before on Friday night we had that with the fit and we all of us all we could do is just talk about this marvel marvel over the grappa it's um it was unbelievable it's a grappa when you have a good one it is

a phenomenal product and it's hard to explain it unless you had a good one but you have a good one it's just so good it's made from garbage basically yeah and and it takes a super skill to make it jacob jacopo poli j-a-c-o -p-o-p-o-l-i poli this guy's grappa is always getting 98 or 100 points by all the tasters killer killer grappa if you go right to that you'll never drink the junk again now there's I have a backup brand which is good but it's not up to this this is ridiculously good

but a backup brand is Lorenzo Inga you'll find this pretty commonly and Lorenzo Inga they make a line of grappas based on various areas where they get the the leftover stuff to make it with that is a very good tip I have a comment and a request to comments first of all I need to tell you that last night we took our final Bordeaux from the Costco crate to the dinner and people were just like wow this is so good you're talking about the Bordeaux 22 22 yep yep yep second last

year when Tina and I were in Florence because we were visiting Willow for Christmas we there was this little restaurant that we went in the first night or the second night we arrived nobody was in the restaurant completely empty this is one of those small deals on the side street so we go in we sit in the back we're all lovey -dovey we're in Florence it's beautiful the lights and there's not a lot of tourists because it was cold and the owner young guy he had bought the place with just open

a couple weeks bought the place with four with you know the four friends and so you know we're having the meal it's nice and he said can I give you some grappa for dessert and I'm thinking garbage just it's just like you said but you know I did you know I wanted the kid to feel good about his purchase and there's no one in there it's just like yeah bring in the grappa same experience fantastic he said his dad makes it in the bathtub I said with your dad in it no but it was there is good grappa I

completely agree I'm gonna try some of this well if you can get to this that this one brand this holy stuff is so outrageous that I mean it'll stop the meal it just stops it stops the show it's a showstopper now request because it is the season I don't know if you're gonna recommend brands or a recipe I would love for you to do eggnog on the next show eggnog I can do egg night the problem might there's an egg we have an eggnog issue at the family family level eggnog you

have too many eggs you can't even make eggnog well we got plenty eggs yes you're right we can use one of those recipes but my wife has a recipe for eggnog she insists on making it is it's from her dad it has to be an heirloom recipe that is bullcrap it's a bullcrap I'm trying to say it to her to us nuts no no this is the way you have to do it and so we don't want the bullcrap we want the best we

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