1786 - "Best Exit Strategies"

Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Thursday, July 31st, 2025. This is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 1786. This is no agenda. Looking for the exit and broadcasting almost live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region Number 6. In the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley where I'm also almost live, I'm John C. Dvorak. In the morning. I know a lot of people who are looking forward to this episode for a very long time.

Well, you've been high on this episode for some time. Because- I think it is maybe the funniest episode we've ever played. I really think so. And right off the bat, I gotta give props to Sir Deenonymous from Clip Genie, noagenda .clipgenie.com, also known as bingit.io. Because ever since we introduced bingit.io, it's just been an amazing experience for people to go in and just think of ways that they can put together a best-of show. You know what I mean?

Yeah, especially if you put in exit strategy search. Yeah. Boom, a show. Exactly. You got a show. So, John Jensen, Circumference, he did exactly that. And he put this together a while back. You know, it's like, hey, you know, I've got a good idea. I played some of these, like the first couple of clips for Tina. And she doesn't know all of our stuff. She's only been around for 10 years. We had seven years before that she knows nothing about. She was cracking up.

She had never heard of- These dumb ideas. I mean, yes, you're right. The dumb ideas. Exactly. But are they really? Are they really? A lot of them, I think, are moneymakers. Maybe we should just explain to people. I mean, do you even know how this started? How we started looking for exit strategies? I think it started off as a lark. I think it was a punchline to something one of the other, either you said or I said, one of us said, the other one encountered with, oh, there's an exit strategy.

Because exit strategy is a term that's used a lot in Silicon Valley. We're both familiar with the lingo. And so we picked it up. And then we started, you know, somebody said it first. Either one of us could have been. I'm not sure. But then it became a running gag. No, here's what I think happened. And it started early on, very early on. Where we were looking at this and we're saying, you know, we're working so- I think it must have been, Mevio must have, it might have even been pod show days.

I don't know. We must have been sitting there. No, you don't think it was pod show days? It was Mevio? Yeah. I think we were both talking about, you know, we got this show, but how do we punch out of this? You know, it's like the whole idea in Silicon Valley is you have an exit. You got an IPO. You're going to get acquired. You're going to sell. Yeah, exit strategy. And yeah, and we realized that there's no way to have an exit strategy for a podcast. You just do it until you die.

Or at least one of us dies. Until you come up with an exit strategy. Or an exit strategy. And the first one we came up with was a doozy. Get your shorts on. Get ready for exit strategy number one. We have a UPS guy. There's been my UPS guy who did not during the Christmas Eve. Now there's a bunch of slackers that came in. Our normal UPS guy was this good-looking male model-looking guy. Sometimes he doesn't deliver the packages until like 8.30. Yeah, same here.

8 or 9. They're still working, I know. Well, just because he's stopping off a lot of places. This guy looks like he's the worst for wear. He's got at least five or six women that demand him come in for cookies and tea. Hey, maybe that is our exit strategy. That sounds like a good gig. Drive around all day in shorts. She's into bookbinding and fishing. Let her lure you into a private dance. Next on the No Gender stage comes everyone's fantasy girl, Lily Satou, the anime poster girl.

Those eyes are huge. Give it up for Lily. Looky over here, coming up to stage three. Make her welcome. Put those hands together and give it up for Sabine. This princess recently won an amateur night competition at the Club Rendezvous. But as you can see, there's no way she's an amateur. Cheer on with heart and gratitude, boys. It's Sabine. Is that it? Yeah, that's it. Four. All right, good. Good work. Yeah, it's my exit strategy. I'm going to work a lot of these places. Good script.

I like the script. The writing was good this time. Very nice. Put music, they pump the music into select barrels of whiskey. They've got a Michael Jackson barrel, the Led Zeppelin barrel. And they believe that the sound vibrations expand and contract the wood. And then it molds different tastes. The bluegrass and nutcracker ballet barrels are most popular. They test better, believe it or not, than non-musical whiskey. I think that Zeppelin stuff is probably pretty good. Oh, OK.

Everybody bought into this one. We could do this. We could do this. We could make water. It's pure water. So we can bring in that guy who does the water crystals. You know, when you put a note, love underneath the bottle, then the crystals look all beautiful. If you put a note, you know, no note or hate, then the crystals, they look all maligned and all deformed. And we can have our beautiful, wonderful, no agenda water, which 17 virgins stood around and said love to for 24 hours.

I think it's a plan. It's our exit strategy. Yeah, baby. Exit strategy. As pathetic as it sounds, it's about the best we got. All right, everybody. We would not be the no agenda show if I didn't have a product idea. You ready? I'm listening. I just I'm always listening for this. Now, this product already exists, is very effective to make. We could make it even as an app. I ordered an actual physical product because I don't have a phone with apps anymore. I ordered the Dog Dazer 2, Mark 2.

And this is a small device that emits a 25 kilohertz tone of incredible annoyance to the dogs. So they do not like that tone. So if I'm in a restaurant, there's a dog there. It's going to go on. It's just going to go on my key chain. No one can hear it. You cannot hear it. I mean, if you had a spectrum analyzer, you could see if you're over 10 years old, you can barely hear anything over 15. Yeah, you don't even like your birthday. I mean, it cares.

But I think that this could be the no agenda, you know, dog taser or. This is the best idea you've had for months. Now it can be an app. We could make it an app. There's tons of apps. I don't know if those little things will play that note. Sure, they will. I don't think so. What, a smartphone? I don't think a smartphone has a speaker that can nail 25,000 hertz. Hmm. Distance will become a problem for sure. Distance is a problem.

That's why I like, you know, just that you need a dedicated, the dedicated device. Weaker. Yeah, a device. It should be a key chain. It's just a key chain. And yeah, the speaker does not have to be that big. Just has to be high quality. It can hit that note. Piezo. And yeah, piezo. Piezo. You say piezo. I say piezo. Um, but I, I'm, I'm very excited about bringing this to market. I think we should do a Kickstarter. This may be our exit strategy. What is a long been your assertion?

Which is now a show assertion at this point is North Korea is this trying to set itself up as a tourist attraction, tourist trap, if you will. Yes. And, and this came to you how many years ago? Five, six, six years ago. The key thing I felt about the whole journey is that North Korea, I felt as though they were preparing and they wanted to open up to the rest of the world because they've had to. They spent all their money on these missiles and all that.

The farming, the, the agricultural and food supplies are very, very scarce out in the countryside. So now they've got to get something back. And therefore they're building great tourist resorts. We saw an airport, an entire airport, which is totally empty. There were no planes there at all. But the airport is built waiting for people to come to this tourist resort, which it will serve.

So, and why build that if they didn't really want to get tourists in from China, maybe from the rest of the world. And they let you see that. Yes. Oh, yes, exactly. And they were prepared to talk about that and say, we're going to have wonderful things. And, and evidently they had, they had had people who'd gone to Disneyland in Paris to look at that, how you, how you build resorts like that, how you design them. So money had been invested in this opening up.

So it isn't just, just a political rapprochement. I think it's something they need for their survival now. But when they do open up, then what

happens to the sort of regimented Kim family thought that people are going to say, well, there's a, they do it differently in another part of the world. Maybe we should do it differently. I just don't know. It's a very, very interesting time. Pretty much nailed it. Oh, yeah. Fantastic. It was pretty obvious from the get go. That's what they were up to. And I still think that if they get their act together, I wouldn't mind having the franchise to sell tickets to that giant spectacular show.

The big show. Yeah. The big show. Once a year, you can get a thousand bucks a seat. Well, I was thinking about this in our never ending quest to get out of the podcasting gig and make some real money. Another exit strategy. Well, here's the, here's the strategy. So we get someone within our network, somebody can at least go buy up a block of tickets. We need a block of, say, you know, 50 seats. Maybe if we get 20, we'll take that. And then we're going to do a whole VIP thing.

So, you know, we're going to charter the, I mean, this is, this is going to be millionaires, like people who are in the 500,000 plus category. And it's going to be, you know, we'll take the whole thing, the lodging, you know, the plane, we'll have our own tents, our yurts, catering, you know, a badge, you know, a badge, platinum badge, challenge coin, tote bag for the starter price of, I think $7 ,000. But if it's a couple, then, you know, then we just do, you know, like 12 or something.

Yeah. I was thinking about it. 12 is the sweet spot. Yeah. So get ready, fire up a newsletter. And we have the banks who are laundering money, drug money typically. And then you have the real estate guys like Trump who launder money through what we used to just call commerce, just doing private transactions. But now we always think of everything as a crime. Who cares? I don't care where you got your money from. You want to buy this apartment? Good. Here you go.

So Trump is just laughing his ass off and they hate him for it. And I just read that ING in the Netherlands just paid a 775 million euro claim or a fine to the Europeans, I guess the central bank, I don't know where they send it, to the EU before money laundering, drug money laundering, because they weren't paying close enough attention to the deposits, you see. I did some research on this to figure out how to do money laundering as a real estate guy. You mean some job research?

That's my exit strategy. The best one yet. Turns out it's a good one. It turns out to be a very good one. And the reason is because it's essentially legal. Completely legal. You do not have to check the background. So Trump is not breaking any laws by being a money launderer, if we want to call him that, if we even assume we're correct in our assumptions, which I believe we are.

And that is because the restrictions on banks taking in cash and not reporting it from drug companies, stuff's still powdery, is one thing. And you have to do all these reportings. For example, even when we make a money transfer, if I wait way too long and it gets over a certain amount, it gets reported to the IRS. Everything you do in a banking environment gets reported. Real estate, no. No holds barred. There is nothing you can take it.

Some guy can walk into your office if you're a real estate developer with a million dollars in cash. It was very similar to me where I had lots of money and I had a helicopter, a fractional ownership company, and 9-11 happens. Like that was the beginning of a long slide. No one was using private aviation for a while after 9-11. That's when his restaurants, the restaurant he had in some crazy place with a horrible lease and he just tanked on that. A lot of stuff you don't know about the guy.

Yeah, I did. Yeah, I had worked on, I spent a couple, probably I had a file open and every once in a while a question would come to mind, I'd put it in there. Hey, how many other interesting friends can we interview before they're dead or we are? I got quite a few. I just have to do it. Yeah, well, give me one name that would be interesting. Who's a good name that would be... Well, I know who would be interesting to me and I want to do him. So to speak. This guy Draper, yes.

This guy Draper is 90 something. He runs a wine... He's one of the original wine importers in California and he knows everything about the wine industry in the state. You should do that. And he's finally opened up a small shop. Because, you know, I'm thinking with all these interviews now, I have a couple people I can call, you know, we've got a product. Maybe not. It's our exit strategy. Once again, we're going to get out of this thing rich if it kills us.

The title of 1071 was Kami Komi and Darren, there was a lot of good art actually. Yeah, that was a lot of good art. It was a tough one. We liked what Darren had done with the No Agenda stencils on the tents, which is our latest get rich quick scheme. Yeah, the exit strategy. Yeah, our exit strategy. I'm not quite sure how it's going to exit us. I think we basically wind up... Promoting the show. Oh, OK. We promote the show.

Once the show has been promoted sufficiently, we might get onto iTunes, into the charts. Yeah. Does anyone in Texas think that Fort Worth is a shithole? No, it's actually very beautiful, has a great airport and that's where things will be happening. Yeah, it's where Amazon's going to move. I thought that was a secret. You swore me to fucking secrecy. You said we've got to look for some real estate up there as another exit strategy. And now you're just telling everybody? Why should I say this?

Because I mentioned to a friend of mine, a Lib Joe, who seems to be worried sick that he's going to be swamped under by the rising oceans. You should ask him if he has a few hours to listen to my report on climate change. It'll change his mind. It's not that long. It's only an hour. Anyway, he's moaning and groaning about this. So you told him about Amazon? You told him our secret? It's going to be a great place to move. And he says it's a shithole. Wait a minute.

This guy said, this Lib Joe said Fort Worth is a shithole? Yeah. Screw him. It's not all that bad. I like the town. Anyway, so you might as well tell everyone now. Now the cat is out of the bag. We've been researching Amazon moving to Fort Worth as their new headquarter. And you and I were like, oh, we got to buy some real estate. It's going to make us rich. Don't you remember the whole sworn to secrecy bit? I made a mistake. Okay. Now everyone's in on it.

That, to the best of my recollection, is how podcasting came to be. We should clip that whole thing. Yeah, I think it's pretty bad. And put it on as a separate little podcast. Yeah. Yeah, we'll put it on the M-Bone. Actually, what we'll do is a history of podcasting. I'll do an interview with you. I feel a giblet coming. Ah, yeah, I think there's a giblet. We'll take a little, we'll take a transcript of what you just said. We'll add some more stuff to it. Make it into a giblet.

We'll also do it as, clip that out and make a podcast that stands alone. A standalone podcast that says as its name, the history of podcasting. Yeah, that's a good idea. It's a very good idea. And that will take once and for all. So if you go to Google and you go history of podcasting, this thing is going to be on the first page somewhere. And then there's the book. Is it a full-on book? Or there's only eight million books of how podcasts... No, it's going to be a giblet.

It's going to be a small, short little thing. It's not going to be a long, boring book going back to 1927. It's going to be just about what you said, pretty much, and how it kind of came about, and how it got named, and how it got where it got, and why it's just not doing what you'd hoped it had done, except in very few instances. It was all very successful. Well, I mean, if we did a full -on, I mean, we'd have to talk about MeVeo. We'll co-author it.

We'll co-author it, Adam Curry and Bob Doyle. George Washington and Bob Doyle. Oh, man. Anyway, so that kind of sets it straight, I think. But I'd love to do that. Let that be a project. That's our exit strategy right there. Another project is in the can. Yes. He's a disruptor credited for reviving Canada's apple industry. It takes a village, they say. Not a village, a big town. He did it three decades ago when he invented ice cider, an alcoholic apple drink akin to dessert wine.

It takes advantage of something Canada has in abundance, the cold. I pick apple when there is minus 10 Celsius in the apple. Instead of picking apples in the fall, he waits until they freeze in the winter when the apple sugar peaks. He was inspired by a popular drink called ice wine, which is made from frozen grapes. John, you've hit upon something very big here. This is an exit strategy. This is, I'm sure, millennials love this whole idea. Oh, yeah. Ice cider.

Can you imagine Curry Dvorak ice cider? You know, we're like the two geezers who really know what we're doing. We can come up. Yeah, because we're apple experts. Yes, we're apple experts. We understand everything about apples, about wine. We understand that. And I think the millennials would go crazy for this stuff. So the accuracy just increases because the sample size gets bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger because they keep using it. Already, I'm very impressed by facial recognition.

It really is. I mean, especially if you have the right camera for it. The technology is actually pretty damn good. Now, there's a couple of things you can try. Pat. Apparently, you can take a picture of an eyeball and you put it between the two eyeballs. So you can put two eyeballs. You have a third eyeball. Is that what? Third eyeball at work. But you can say, hey, I have a third eye. It's my religion. You can put a copy of eyeballs above your brow. Just stop. Just stop.

This is the official no agenda TSA evasion kit. And it consists of a third eyeball sticker that you put right on your head. This is another yet another exit strategy. I believe there's also some uses of glassware that would work. And makeup might or might not work. How about one of those glasses with the googly eyes that fall out the big eyeball? I think that would be funny. But I think the real killer here, because it's done through points they have to identify, is the big Taliban beard.

I don't think that makes a difference. I think it sees right through. I don't think the beard does anything for facial recognition. I believe a Taliban beard. So the kit includes a sticker, a third eye sticker, a Taliban beard and the googly eyeglasses. Yeah. We can get this made in China for 20 cents and sell it for 20 bucks. 20 bucks. We're going to be rich. Another exit strategy. We're going to be so rich. Modern, modern problems. Modern, modern problems in the UK.

Well, we've got a monster of a fatberg under the seafront here in Sydmouth. It's about 64 metres long, we think, which is the equivalent of about six double-decker buses. So this is created by fat, but also with wet wipes and things. So our message, particularly around toilet and the way people use their toilets, is to only flush the three Ps. That is pee, paper and poo and nothing else. Everything else needs to go in the bin. And the same applies with fat in the kitchen sink.

Don't pour hot fat down the kitchen sink. It needs to go into a container and also put in the bin. This is really... That's not true. What? You can emulsify fat with some soap and hot water and it's fine to dump it down the drains. Have you seen any of these fatbergs in the sewer? So 60 metres long. Well, that's because people put fat down the drain where they don't emulsify it first. What's getting blamed for it is toilet wipes.

That's the one thing I keep hearing is toilet wipes, toilet wipes, toilet wipes. Are they going to go the way of the straw? I'll bet you they are. Wait, this is our exit strategy. We need recyclable toilet wipes or something like that. There you go. Yeah, you wipe your butt and then you wash it in the washing machine a few times and then you can use it again. Or maybe better. Nah, people aren't going to do that. We should have some kind of butt wipe where it's kind of like a mitten.

And so after you've wiped, then you fold it inside out. And wipe again. No, then you can dispose of it in the bin. You know, so the whole thing is just... I think maybe Dan wants to get one of those smart toilets. It already sounds like an expensive item. This doesn't sound like a great exit strategy is what I'm thinking. Well, no. That's all these ideas have been. Oh, man. Don't be so mean to me now. So, of course, I was looking for another exit premium.

You know, an amulet or something that could channel away the 5G energy. But of course, this doesn't really exist. Crystals. 5G crystals. That's right. No agenda. 5G crystals will save your life from 5G signals. Or maybe just a simple armband that lights up when there's too much 5G around you. That would be cool. And that's pretty inexpensive to make. That's not a bad idea. Yeah, you could just be, okay, I got red here on my band.

Or you could use it on weaving into fashion so people can wear a fashionable dress. And so when the dress just lights up and there's all kinds of cool stuff because there's too many phones in the area. It'd be great. That's one of the few times you've agreed with my exit strategy premium items. I've always thought that wearable displays of LEDs and things flashing around were always cool. I went years ago, I think it was in the 90s. I went to China and they were selling this stuff on the street.

And I've always thought it was just a dynamite idea. Once in a while, it sneaks into the fashion shows. But it hasn't totally caught on. Well, this should be actually quite easy to produce if we just create a little element that has the right length that it would fire up. It's just like any kind of magnetic loop. It'll resonate and it can throw off a little electricity, maybe enough to light something up on a band. Yeah. All right. I will be in the lab.

There's engineers out there that can help us. Of course, there's gonna be some douche who already did this. I don't think so. Okay. So, as a part of your OTG strategy, you do need something else. And for that, I have the Surface Go. A very inexpensive, very small device. It's the size of my original iPad. I have a nice little, a beautiful little case that it goes into. And I have a hotspot. I think you can get the Surface Go now with LTE. Don't get that.

What you want is you want to be disconnected. If I really, really, really need to get something, the pain of turning on the dongle, the hotspot, firing up the little computer, and then doing whatever I need to do, that becomes a choice of like, do I really need to do this? Can I do this later? Is it of utmost importance? When it's really easy to do, you will do it. You have to pain yourself. And how long have I been doing this, six months? Would you say? Longer. Longer, really. I'm cured.

I am completely cured. And I love it. I can even pick up an iPhone now and just do something to get it out of there or whatever and put it back down. Notifications aren't in my life anymore, except for one sound from my phone. And that's only a handful of people, including you. And you called me the other day. That was a surprise, like the phone's ringing. So that is the strategy. When people say, what phone should I get?

I can get the one that is completely built on open standards, Linux, hardware switches. You're still going to be distracted and looking at your phone when you could be looking at other people looking at their phones. It's a lot more fun. It is funnier. It's fun. It's really great because I'm going to be candid. You feel superior. You do. Well, that's your golden life. You just feel superior. Yes, that's my exit strategy. Yeah, you can taste it.

Well, the problem with balsamic is because the process for making it involves no aging, a little aging, a lot of aging. And then it involves different specific gravities, which is the thickness. Oh, gravity is thickness? Specific gravity is pretty much thickness. It's the weight per volume kind of calculation. But anyway, so it can be very thick and so you can pour it and it comes out kind of like a syrup or it can be watery like the stuff you buy at Costco.

And so it's not watery, watery, but it's just watery. It's just like the same viscosity of regular vinegar. It doesn't have any of the thickness that you get on a good balsamic. And thank you for giving us the correct pronunciation. Balsamic. I think I always say balsamic, which is wrong. Balsamic. I don't really think it's important.

But I think that because of the variation in the quality and style, I think it'd be very easy to pass off the mediocre, using the wrong grapes and making it the traditional way and getting those flavors. I don't think it would be. I think it'd be very difficult to spot, to be honest about it. Well, the scandal is upon us. I'm going to have to have some of the scandalous stuff. In fact, you never know. It's possible the scandalous stuff is better. It could be. Don't know. It's always possible.

It does happen. Hey, man, this stuff actually kicks ass. We like it. It actually could be better. In fact, if they marketed it differently, I think you'd have some. For example, don't call it balsamic, call it asalmic. Ooh, nice. You had balsamic, try asalmic. Oh, an exit strategy. Yeah. New vinegar. I have an idea. We could write a book about it. Oh, I'm sorry. What am I thinking?

Yeah. Do you know that the guy that was taking the test for the students, he was arraigned and I guess he's going to go to jail. This is in the college admission scandal. Yes, he was doing the admission scandal. Do you? I want you to guess. And I know you don't have the script or you didn't hear this. How much was he paid to take the SAT for somebody? And then also now you take it, but get a score that would be, apparently it was so good he could manipulate the score. So he knew all the answers.

How much was he paid per test? Why would you think I wouldn't know this number? Oh, you know it? Of course. What do you think I do all day? Oh, man. Florida Prep School Administrator Mark Riddell pled guilty today in Boston Federal Court to taking entrance exams for students in a massive college admissions bribery scheme. Prosecutors said the 36-year-old Harvard graduate was typically paid $10,000 per test. Riddell could face up to 20 years in prison and a $250,000 fine.

Now, did you think that was a lot? I didn't think it was a little or a lot. I just thought it was good money for taking the test. I was thinking the same way. Yeah, because you can only pick one up, you know, once every couple of weeks, I guess. Yeah, but it's $10,000. You do $10,000 a year, you've made $100,000 off the top. Yeah, well, there's hope. Hey, exit strategy. Do you think you could ace? Do you think you could ace the exam? I can come pretty close. I got really high scores on the SATs.

Now we all know why I went to West Virginia. Now, what you just said, I think is a great idea. And I will mention that Costco and other places, you could put, you know, two or three, quote unquote, rolls on a small thumb drive and take it to Costco and they'll print these things out inexpensively, about the same you'd have to pay for supplies to do it yourself, fairly inexpensively. And you will have these backups.

And they actually, the gear that they're, the big print guys have is a little better than what you generally have in it. And it's also, it tunes the photos a little bit. There's going to be an entire generation of children who get old and die. And there's going to be nothing left. I really enjoy having some of my mom's crazy shit, some letters and some photos. I like the photos. I like photos of my daughter. Black and white photos. Yeah. Yeah, I agree.

Cause I, you know, I've saved all of the original videotapes of Christina, second birthday, third birthday. There's some fun stuff on it. Start rolling them out. Yeah, it's VHS. Then I also have a VHSC. I have beta. No, what's the DV video. Now I save the actual cameras so I can play it back. Yeah, this is a problem. But it's, it's going, yeah, there's services who will do it.

And I understand the storage is going to be a problem because, oh my God, now you, besides your $200 Lululemon pants, you also have to carry around some, like a photo album and you have no backpack for it. It's not going to work. For these guys. Maybe. Hey, exit strategy. I just saw a giant truck go by giant truck with a big blue side that said prime. Yeah. Yeah. Amazon. Yeah. All right. Anyway, I, you know, they, they're, they're into this. The way they're doing it is the way what they're into.

And I think they're going to be sorely disappointed. This is just a warning. Yeah, I agree. Which way it's, it's just a, hey, take it from your uncle, Adam and uncle John. You might want to have some memories later on. And it's going to go away. If you, if you trust it to Instagram, just take a couple, make a selection. We need to have the millennial vault.com or something like this, where you, you know, you just send off a couple of pictures. We print them.

We store them for you, which of course we don't do. Cause we're really an on-demand printing system. You see. So we'll say, we're going to print these for you and we'll keep them safe for you. And then when you, and you go pick them up, which 90% will never do. Then we, oh, here they are. We print them off real quick. So they're also well-preserved. They're kept perfectly well. And you know, obviously we won't lose the data. It's another exit strategy. Like this show is doomed.

Well, I don't know. I think we'll make it out before, before the real crunch comes down. You mean exit strategy? People get, I got angry letters about this. Yeah. I got a producer email me. People in my family have donated, but I just can't. When you keep talking about exit strategy, bring back the good old days. I said, what do you mean we were doing one show a week for 40 minutes and you weren't donating? I said, you want that? I don't think so.

So you do know that exit strategy is a joke, right? Kind of. I mean, if we had a real exit strategy, we'd just be, we'd exit. But right now, but right now being, being on the front lines of the podcast, reboot is fabulous. No one cares about us. Not a single story, not, nothing covers us ever, ever. It causes some karma for her husband, who's a mainframe guy, a mainframe dude. Oh yeah, the mainframe, because there's not that many mainframe jobs left.

We got an email from a company that says, oh, or someone who works at a company says, hey, could you please hook me up with that, with that producer? Because I think our company would be interested in her husband. And so I don't know if we've made a love match yet, but we have- Did you send her, you sent a note back? Eric very properly sent a, sent a note to her with the information. You know, we don't connect people directly. They have to do that themselves.

So we're like a, you know, we're like a job fair here. Yeah. Hey, hey, exit strategy. Exactly. Job, job fair. Hey everybody, welcome to- John Adams job fair. Welcome to the best- In Des Moines on Saturday, in Great Plains on Sunday, 12 to 3. You know, you're, you're syrup, syrupy. All you need to do is just put Katy Perry on the judge's podium and you'll have it made. ABC will carry it.

Yeah, but see, now this is the beauty of the Eurovision song contest, is there's a, each country has its own professional judges and they vote and they're not allowed to vote on their own country. But then you have the, the, the text vote and, you know, and you see all the politics coming into play, you know, adjacent countries who will vote for each other.

You know, if they don't like that country, then, you know, everyone hates Russia, so they don't vote for them, except for the countries that do love Russia. So it's just, it's a wonderful evening. Apparently Logo stopped doing it. So much for your theory. Oh, damn it. It's ridiculous. I do think it could be what, when you mentioned Terry Wogan just ragging on it. I think I'd watch that. You and I could do this, actually. We could do, Yeah, we could rag on it just as much as anybody.

But we could do a good job. I think it would be fun to have you just being like, what is this? What country? Who, where is this country? Where's Katy Perry? I could see it. All right, well, I'll see if anyone is carrying it. Next year should be a big event. We can do a little TV. This is our exit strategy. Hey, I'm all for it. Let me see if we, hey, how about this? Let me see if we can get a feed that everyone will be watching. A legal feed. A legal feed.

And then we'll just pop on our stream and we'll just provide commentary. You can sit on the couch while you do it. No, we got to do it on video. It has to be video. We can't, can't we just provide it? Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah, it has to be synced with the video. But we don't have to be on camera. No, no, no, no. I was thinking more like the Space Science 3000 with the two of our shadows in front. You know, silhouettes of our heads. And maybe a third head.

I think that's complicating an already well thought out format. Just do the voiceover. You don't need to do anything else. How did Wogan do it? He just voiceover. He was just in the background. He was never on camera. Yeah, just get a video feed. And then you and I will just rag on it. Complicate it later. Wait a minute, wait a minute. I think this is, I think this, is it this weekend? That's the, that's the wedding weekend. And? Well, so you have to cancel the wedding.

Either that or we can sit in my studio and do it live together. Yeah, maybe not. Cancel the wedding. Maybe not, maybe not. Oakland, I know him. I said, hey Cliff, can I come over there with some gear and we can record a, you know, some new material from you. And he obliged. It's very entertaining. Very entertaining. Oh, good. And you did this when? This past week? I did last week. Oh, cool. And he also makes Klein bottles as a hobby. What kind of bottles?

A Klein bottle is a bottle with one surface. You have to look it up to see what they are. But they only have one surface. It's like a, you know, the thing you twist and what's it called? I can't remember. People in this chat room know where you have a, you can take a piece of paper and turn it. So it has one surface and just keep going around and around. Well, I know what it is. I got it now. Klein bottle. How do you spell Klein? K-L-E-I-N. Klein bottle. Okay. Let me just see what it is.

Yeah. Mobius band. Oh, okay. It's a Mobius band bottle. That's interesting. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. Is there any benefit to the Mobius band bottle? Or the Mobius band bottle? None. Yeah. There is a benefit. If you want to put some liquid in something, you can't get it out. If you make them and you sell them, there's a benefit. No other observable benefit. It's definitely a curiosity. That's for sure. And he makes a bunch of different ones.

So when you pour it, it basically goes back into the bottle. Yeah. That's the smart stuff. You can't really pour it out. That's what we should. That's the problem. You can't get it out. I've got it. There's another exit strategy. Not quite sure how we. Klein bottles. Klein bottles. The second is we have an upvote and a downvote system. That's really powerful to have both. So that users can actually weigh in on what is appropriate content and what's good content. And there it is.

This is a whole new presentation. And they're saying we have human moderators. We have 15 to 50 moderators before anything surfaces up high enough for your brand to be tainted by it. Don't worry. You're safe with us. We got this lady over here. She knows the inside workings of Twitter and Google. We figured it out. We've tackled it. They hired 60 people. Six zero. 60 people in New York for brand advertising. And then they quarantine the Donald. Well, of course they do.

They're pitching this to advertisers. What are you doing about all that horrible discourse? All these alt-right people on the Donald subreddit. We've quarantined that. So if you want to be effective and if you are worried about free speech and you really feel you need to use these platforms, which I'm against. And you need to go after the advertisers. And stop bitching and moaning about censoring. Go after the advertisers. Go for the jugular where the money is.

This is where we could get into our pitch. Oh, the final thing I wanted to say. I got a note. This is another exit strategy. We could start that group. Oh, interesting. What what group? The the the anti-brand group? The media matters. We'd be a media matters. No agenda matters. It's wrong all the time. We cannot sleep because every 15 to 20 minutes the guards are yelling something. Get up. We spent all day and every day inside of that room. There are no activities. Only crying.

Oh, won't somebody please think of the children? Unbelievable. So not only do I not believe this. They've now traumatized 20 other children to believing how horrible and it I'm sure it's no picnic. But this is not the way to go about doing these things. It's despicable. You know what? Maybe we're stupid. We're stupid, John. No, no, we're don't see it that way. Yeah, we're done. Okay. Yeah, we need to have children asking for donations on our show. Oh, I'm liking it.

Please. Adam and John, we have a number of we have plenty of talent out there that can record a few ditties for us. Children begging for money for the no agenda show, because it's horrible. It's horrible how bad things are. Exactly. So if we're just not this is it. We could actually start an ad agency. That's it. Our exit strategy. Yes, but a bunch of very talented erudite kids. This is a great idea. Yes. What we call it. Kids for cash or it sounds like cars for kids. It sounds like it doesn't.

Oh, no, don't sing it. Don't sing. It'll be in my head for the rest of the week. No, no, no. Don't do that. Well, we could use a jingle too. Yeah, we're going to do this. This is where we're going. This is a great idea. And then auditions are underway. And then the newsletter. You could do it with crayons. I'm sure it'll work. Clearly, this is the way to go.

We also found that, and this is I think is key, that many of the streaming set top boxes and smart TVs tell the sending side to send 5.1 even if the output is only going to stereo speakers built into the TV. So I think there's a big flaw is in your Roku box or whatever you're using. It's sending a signal saying, yes, send me that 5.1. Which, of course, is looking for a center channel to send the dialogue through. The audio processor in these devices often does not do a proper down mix to stereo.

And in several of the low price models, does a very poor job of the down mix levels, leaving dialogue always lower than other sounds, in particular by not properly mixing in the center channel with the front left and right. This is where I see our exit strategy. We need a box. We need a box. Yeah, I need a box. Need a DSP, digital signal processing box. There's an app that does this for the Xbox, apparently. I don't have an Xbox, but a lot of people... Call it a Foley box.

Just use this software. License it. There you go. Done. Exit. Okay, well, that's it. Last show, everybody. We had the big freak out and boycott of Equinox and SoulCycle. What? SoulCycle and Equinox. The boycott. We had the boycott. Remember the CEO of the company that owns the gym and the spin class? Oh, the spin gym guy. Spin gym guy. Boycott. The spin gym guy. Hold on. That, by the way, is a whole new cab. That's an exit strategy. I'm going to write that down. Spin gym.

So you go there and you can spin and gym. It's a combo. It's the spin gym. Yeah, you're pumping away and you're pulling down weights. At the same time. Yeah. Perfect. Spin gym. Okay, I'm writing that down as an exit strategy. My guests aren't helping. I have to call back, though. Your idea of the homelessness experience in Disneyland. This is an exit strategy. I think we could create this ride. Now, do you sit in the ride or do you?

I think you should also experience for a brief moment you stepping in human feces. Um. I don't know that the homeless are always stepping in human feces. I guess some of that are really down and out, staggering down the street, all leaned over. I mean, if the ride is the ride, are you going to actually experience it? Like, so is it a ride? I think the most enjoyable Disney rides are in a cart, you know, and you got your music going on and you like, you know, well. Well, okay.

There's two ways of going about this. I'm a huge connoisseur of these things. Ah, here we go. There's one is you're in the little cart, a little car, a little thing, and it's going through a homeless encampment and people are all animatronic. That's like Pirates of the Caribbean. Yeah, exactly like Pirates of the Caribbean. Only you're not you. Maybe it could be, you know, in a kind of a river of pee, you know, if you kind of stinky pee, that would be OK.

But I think generally speaking, be better on rails. And you go through these things and you see all these different people. And then they have, you know, people do you have you go through the section where there's a bunch of politicians trying to come up with good solutions. And they finally say we just need more housing. And then you come out, you come out the other end of it and you feel real good about yourself and you now you understand, you understand. Now you have evolved.

That's the other one, which is the cheaper way to go is you put you wear some VR glasses or you're in a VR situation. You experience the whole thing. Only now it's even more realistic, not because it's not animatronics. It's not it's not dummies and things like Pirates of the Caribbean is the actual videos that you're seeing and surrounded by the real extension fields and fans blowing the smell of crap in your face.

And you go through the whole thing and you come out the other end pretty much with the same message. But it's just the cheaper way to do the ride. Less maintenance. I personally like the Pirates of the Caribbean version. I like that a little better. I think it's more fun. I always like those rides better than the ones that are closed. Because you go through City Hall where the council members are all sitting there pontificating. Then you could do. And here's Los Angeles and here's Austin.

You could have a couple of show some differences. Oh, yeah, right. Yeah, you could take the car through one place or another. And then, you know, guys begging for money in different ways. Along the ride, people keep coming up to your cart asking for money. Yeah, we're going to hell for this. There's more to this report. So we already we discussed this on the show. I had the clip of that guy who used to eat food.

You know, he's very popular and just eats like huge amounts of food and then bitches and moans and get sick. And this guy's got millions of viewers. Okay. Yes. Mukbang. It's yes. And and the keeper watches some. We did not miss this. But well, but we didn't get the name Mukbang and we didn't get some other important facts. Yes, we did miss a lot of this story. Since 2011, a peculiar trend of live streaming while eating large quantities of food has become more and more popular in South Korea.

Here comes. The people who participate in Mukbang have become minor celebrities in their own right to the point that they're referred to as broadcast jockeys or the more popular term. Don't laugh. BJ's. So they become BJ's. Yeah, well, I agree. We didn't get BJ's. These so-called BJ's have learned that there is such a thing as a free lunch. This is Park Sooyoung, one of the country's most popular BJ's for whom Mukbang was a full-time job, better known as the diva.

At one point, she was making up to $9,000 a month through her fans donations. John exit strategy. We can do this. $9,000 a month compared to the girls who do makeup videos is minor. But we can do ASMR. Mukbang. Here's an example. This is a guy eating a pizza. We could do this. Maybe you're not in, but I think I need to do some Mukbang. I think you should do it. I think you should do it. And I'll watch. But listen to the headline. VJ becomes BJ. I mean, could it be any better? It's obvious.

The promotion is right there. Ready to go. Yeah. Well, there's another dead end. Woody Allen wasn't already like super, like super canceled. No, he's canceled. Canceled now. I mean, his new movie, A Rainy Day in New York will not get released in the United States. It's actually been released in Europe to good reviews. Yeah. Amazon will not bring it out in the United States. They won't stream it. He's got the autobiography of Woody Allen, which has to be a fascinating book. Yeah, no, denied.

The big four publishers, none of them will touch it. Did he do that himself? He's a writer. Yeah. But he did the film about his life, or is it just a written? No, a book. Oh, well, shit. No Agenda Press should release that. Exit strategy, baby. That's the bottom of the barrel for him. In the actual government documents themselves, if you look at money that was intended for Ukraine. It doesn't take a genius.

It's $300 million was earmarked, government money, our money, tax money, $300 million for AIDS education in Ukraine. And that's going to NGOs and that's how it works. You set up, it's like, hey, John, we got a buddy over there and they get in Congress and they got some chips in with somebody else. So why don't we start a little non -governmental organization? We will educate podcasters how to be free media, something like that. And then we'll get an earmark and we'll get $25 million.

We put together a class. Oh, this is what it is. And this is what we should be doing. I know. This is the exit strategy. We're available. Now, you need a good grantsmanship person. Somebody knows how to write grants and you can make a lot of money off of this thing that they're trying to put an end to. And I think it's wise to put an end to it because it is squandering taxpayers money.

So we have the same memes over and over from all the reporters and from every analyst on this side of the water that it makes us less safe. And Congress wasn't consulted. That's it. That's all they got. That's all they got. Congress wasn't consulted. And as you pointed out, and everybody really knows this, Congress doesn't need to be supported or I'm sorry, informed about a drone hit on someone. When have they ever been informed of it?

When Obama had his hit list, was he calling Congress up and saying, what do you think, Nancy? Should I kill this guy at the wedding? We went into Syria without a declaration of war. Come on. I mean, but that's that's just grasping at straws. More importantly, did I hear you say that there's real money in these think tanks? Is that possibly the exit strategy we should be looking at? There's real money in these think tanks.

If you know how to manage one, we need somebody out there who can do grantsmanship. So I think we should have the Curry -Dvorak-Lincoln-Washington Consortium. Don't you think so? Doesn't that sound official? Consortium group? What do we need? Curry-Dvorak-Lincoln-Washington Confab. No, I'm looking for the right one. Lincoln-Washington is just a good beginning. Curry and Dvorak, who are those guys? So just put Lincoln-Washington Consulting?

Washington-Lincoln, Lincoln-Washington. Yeah, Lincoln-Washington-Washington. You want to throw it? You'd have to write, you'd have focus group this baby. Can we put it? We just throw JFK in there for good measure? Lincoln-JFK. No, JFK's out. No, he's out. OK, so I think the Lincoln-Washington Consulting Group. Yeah, that might work. Lincoln-Washington. Who's Lincoln? Who's Washington? What do you know? We have to, we have to... Greatest president ever and the founding father.

How about strategic strategy group? That's better. Lincoln-Washington Strategy Group. People can watch this in real time as we develop this. I've been working on our exit strategy as always. Yes. Well, there is something going on in Texas which might work for us. I mean, it's not, yeah, it's, it would still mean work, but we could certainly make a lot of money if you're interested. Well, the work part of it is kind of disconcerting.

Here's Shelby County, Texas. Shelby County commissioners plan to pay more than $9,000 a month to a podcasting company to produce podcasts and market it on the internet. This contract is so outrageous that it just baffles me why we're doing this. Shelby County Commissioner Mick Wright is the lone commissioner who voted against paying the Katsuki Network almost $110,000 to produce podcasts for the commission.

When you're talking about over $100,000, I mean, you could buy a small fleet of vehicles for that amount and still do a podcast. The local I-team found there are cheaper options in town. The OAM Network operates out of the Crosstown concourse. Here, a podcast costs $300 for the first episode and $100 per episode after that. OAM's owner questions why the county is even paying for podcasts when it video streams its meetings and also broadcasts them live on the radio.

The owner of Katsuki didn't want to comment for this story, but at the commission meeting, he explained the cost this way. We really work with businesses and we work with government entities to make sure that they have a very high-end product. John, it's that easy. There's a lot of counties, every county. Listen, we work with a lot of businesses and we ensure you have a high-end quality product. The Curry Dvorak Podcast Production Group.

I would love to hear these high-end products from this guy. I wonder if they've produced any yet. Shelby, that would be funny. I should have actually looked into that. I'm sorry, podcast. Let's see, Shelby County Podcast. No, nothing yet. But it's something we could consider. A hundred grand a year. Yeah. For just one county. For one county, do a thousand counties.

Boom. This is all being done through, well, not all, mostly being done through AID, but also the Democracy and Human Rights Bureau here at state. USAID and a new one, the Democracy and Human Rights Bureau, which is also- That's a new one. You must have looked it up. Oh, yes, I did. This is our exit strategy. All we need is to write one good grant. This is, I mean, it literally says opportunities. So, here's one. Requests for statements of interest, China programs.

So, the Bureau of Human Rights of Democracy, Human Rights and Labor, which is a part of the State Department, announces a request for statements of interest from organizations interested in submitting statements of interest for programs that protect and promote human rights in China. I think we qualify. If not, we could make a sub-podcast that does. Oh, yeah, we could do that.

The program concept should demonstrate ability to improve rights awareness and access to justice for Chinese citizens, strengthen and institutionalize citizen participation in government, promote government information transparency, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. The numbers they have available for 2020. I'm just scrolling down because it's a very long thing. They have one grant for $750,000 and one for $1.5 million. John, we're crazy if we don't go after some of this. That's just the China one.

We could grab any one of these. This is a propaganda bonanza. I love these guys. And Congress just gives them the money. There you go. Yeah, this is a very interesting outfit. So that's what your money's going towards. Podcasters in Venezuela. Way to go, Congress. Very, very proud of the work you're doing. I did get the message about elderberry. And there's some research on elderberry and chokeberry. Chokeberry. Which apparently keeps the Russians from ever catching any of these.

Yeah, chokeberry, look it up. It's another berry. These two particular products have an immune effect on the immune system, specifically targeting viruses. And the Russians make a big deal of having chokeberry and elderberry syrups and drinks and such during the winter time. Is this a millennial thing now? It's like a small batch deal? I don't know, but this is where I got it from. So I'm expecting to see it. He mentioned it in his report, the elderberry phenomenon.

So I guess they're all aware of it. And so now you can somehow invest in the elderberry business or chokeberries. You're going to make a lot of money. Exit strategy. 10 emails of people saying, dude, dude, dude, dude. What was it? Tell me, what's your website? I want stuff that makes my hair grow. So I feel obliged to say that. Thehappyhairformula.com is Vicky's personal website. And let us know how that works out for you. That could be kind of interesting.

We could eventually have the official hair care product of the No Agenda show. If it's any good. No Agenda hair care products. Just like the t-shirts. Nap for humanity. There's some other guys who were talking about some coffee. I just want to make it clear. Hey, man, we'd like to put the No Agenda logo on the coffee and we'll give you a third. No, no, no, no, no, no. If we like a product, we may endorse it. I don't know about having our logo on it. I don't think that's the right way to go.

What do you think? Well, a couple of things. Do I hear an exit strategy? Well, we had a No Agenda beer out of Australia, as you recall. Yes, that's true. Yeah. And it had our logo, kind of a logo on it. And we've had other products. All the t-shirts that are done by the shop, we've got the logo all over. I don't see why it's a problem. All of a sudden we hate coffee. I don't. I would like to taste the coffee before it becomes official No Agenda coffee. Is that crazy? No, that's different.

Yeah. I will say this. I will agree with that. So we need a couple of pounds of coffee and then you can put the, yeah. Yeah. I mean, a little micro brew from Australia. I mean, by the way, it wasn't even that micro. It made it all the way to the U.S. It was selling. It was a monster. It's a big, it's actually a big micro brewery. A big micro brewery. Fantastic. Yeah, it makes no sense, but there it is. On call for the benefit of the state.

But senior officials tell PBS NewsHour today was also about diplomatic reciprocity. In January, out of fears of COVID, the U.S. evacuated its Wuhan consulate. It has not reopened because of a dispute over whether U.S. employees have to quarantine and take COVID-19 tests upon arrival at Chinese airports. Longer term, U.S. officials say they want to reduce their footprint in China. In addition to the Beijing embassy, the U

.S. has five consulates on the Chinese mainland and the Hong Kong consulate. Senior officials say they've accepted the likely permanent closure of one consulate and intend to move it elsewhere in Asia. You know, it's really no wonder when you listen to these news reports, and I wonder who was doing that reading, what station it was on, because there's no wonder that no one gives a crap about China because it's really not compelling the way it's delivered. What station is this?

That's your PBS NewsHour, hello. Oh my god, that's really so exciting. I don't know why people don't listen to it, but we did report on the story, but I just spoke it this way, and then no one really paid attention to me. I'm pretty good at that. You get that voice down, you nail it, you can go to work, that's an exit strategy, you can go to work for PBS. Exit strategy, everybody. And see, I also got a whole bunch of comic books. I wonder if that's from our guy.

Are they high-end comic books with, oh, the Batman character? No, let's see, I'm not quite sure who this is from. Because Mike Riley's been sending out some work. Oh, maybe, oh, this looks like Mike Riley. No, Mike Riley's very distinctive. Oh my goodness, this is Riley, oh, here it is. Oh my, Chimera, likely. He's doing no-agenda comic books. Have you seen those? They're great. I haven't got the latest batch, Oh my goodness, I had not received any. I love these.

I really appreciate that, Mike. Thank you so much. Well, he sent me some before because I requested a printout of one of his artworks. Yeah, well, it's, I mean, this is dynamite work. And there's also now on the Amazon store, I tweeted a link to it, from the same makers of the no-agenda Redbook, you can now buy your very own Curry Dvorak Consulting Group notebook. That's a good one. Half the exit strategy is right there. What is kind of nice to know that this problem- And now you're a podcaster.

And not only am I a podcaster, the podfather, but it hit me Friday night, I have not slept more than a couple hours a night. I figured out how to fix podcasting and I'm going to do it. This is the last time I heard, this was your exact mode. You go into this all the time, by the way. I do, it's a cycle. I think it's about every two years, but it could be longer. Yeah. The last time you had this was you, actually, I can name another time before this one, but the last time- Podcaster Pro.

Yes, which Rode finally did. Yeah, so I was right, I chose poor partners. That was my mistake, there's no doubt about it. Yeah. And I learned from that. That was, you know, I'd learned from the failure and so did Rode and I'm happy. Rode went, oh, poor guy, this is fucking great. We got all these bits. And they never sent you a free one. Never sent me a free one. And they're still, they almost have it perfected. If only they'd put a noise gate on the channel that comes in from the computer.

I'm just going to keep saying until they do it. Otherwise, it looks like a pretty decent device. Now, this is a fix that will fix payments. It's going to fix a whole bunch of things. I figured it out. And it may give us an exit strategy. And are you going to discuss this openly? Hell no, I'm not even going to tell you privately. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I've learned, see, I've learned. I've learned from my mistakes. But Podcasting 2.0 is coming. I'm working on it.

Okay, we're all, I'm at pins and needles. Yeah, that's all the T's you get. The next T's you get will be a pew pew map. And indeed, Podcasting 2.0 has turned out to not be an exit strategy. I'm going to show my support by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. Yeah, on No Agenda, in the morning. It's been fun. It's been fun seeing all the new apps, but no exit strategy.

I'm still stunned that they haven't sent you a free road... A free roadcaster? Yeah, a roadcaster. They hate me. It's unbelievable. This is typical. And you know, they send them to YouTubers and all kinds of people all the time. I'll bet you I could work one. I mean, if they... I mean, think about this. They also have the roadcast video, videocaster. Yes, the latest, yeah. Yeah, I mean, they could be like, hey, you guys could do one video episode.

And we would probably do it if we got some free gear out of it. Yeah, that's the way you do it. We're horrors like that. But we're not getting anything. No, it's amazing. I'm really baffled about that because... Yeah, the whole thing is ridiculous. They kind of took my idea. I don't want to blame, I don't want to accuse them of anything. Well, you can't. Yeah, I wouldn't. And I love that... So we have to... The worst thing is I love their product. I love the product I use. I have two of these.

I bought two. And you're endorsing it, which really you shouldn't do. No, I got to stop doing that. I got to stop doing that. So we have to mention, this is the donation segment. The people that donate will get mentioned on the next show. It'll be a long donation segment. And we're still taking donations, obviously. And I want to mention that if anyone wants to get the PhD in media deconstruction, that it's still available until the next show. So, I mean, it ends tomorrow, technically.

But, you know, we'll give you a little weasel room if you get your donation in for the PhD, then it's over. And that's it. There's no more Code Bongino for you. That will be the last PhD in media deconstructions for the foreseeable future. Yeah, go to noagendadonations.com. Yes. And thank you all for supporting us with the value for value model. Thank you for all of our artists. Thank you for everyone who's doing meetups. It's a time, talent, and treasure.

And thank you again to Circumference for putting this episode together. There is over an hour left to go. You're going to love this one, John. I'm not even going to tell you what it is. This is the continuation of some great ideas known as the No Agenda exit strategies. Well, unfortunately, we do have an exit strategy. And the exit strategy is we podcast until we die. That's the big exit. Bye, everybody. I can't think of any other exit strategy for us. It is overwhelming, the evidence.

If you don't believe in climate change or heat, please come to the state of California, and we will re-educate you or ultimately enlighten you. Wow. Come to California. We will re-educate you. Please come to the state of California, and we will re-educate you or ultimately enlighten you as to the consequences of the Earth and its temperatures increasing and the consequences that are having in terms of droughts, not just wildfires, as well as floods. OK, I have an idea.

This is easily executable, and we have the producers. This is, after all, the best podcast in the universe. We have the producers to do this. I would like a pre-print study. That's what we get all the time. And it's always, oh, that's not scientific. Doesn't matter in this case. A pre-print study that just has a whole bunch of word salad in there that shows that climate change and the increase in temperature is the direct cause of COVID. And let's just get it out there, see what happens.

I mean, we might as well show how good we are, you know, for the exit, for the exit strategy. It's just a thought. We can do that. It's still very doable. Yeah, you know, put a couple of doctor names, affiliations, you know, a statement of no conflict. Ah, it's going to be fantastic. We should really consider that. We tried to get reports from, I think it was Gen Z. For a while. Not Gen Z, but Gen X, one of the Gens. And we sent out the message, we want reports on your sex life. Oh, yeah.

Because there's a lot of kinky sex going on because these people, they learned about sex from. From porn. Really horrid porn. Well, we started getting some reports in, and the reports were so terrible. Yeah. That we just discontinued the project. Yeah, that's another failed exit strategy from the Curry-Dvorak Consulting Group, where we could not put together the white paper. I said, well, think of the good news. It says you're a dog walker.

They're going to have to have professional dog walkers because it specifically says people who walk their dogs. They don't want people out of the house. So if this is true, then don't you have a 78% higher chance of contracting COVID, catching COVID if you just walk outside in general, even with a mask? I don't understand the logic of this. Oh, no, no, no. You're missing the whole point. The nasty little COVID guys, they're floating around as an aerosol.

They land on the dog's fur, and then you walk the dog into the house and the dog is covered with these things. Oh, man. Doggy shampoo. It's like fleas. Doggy shampoo. We got special COVID doggy shampoo. There's all kinds of product opportunities. That's some money, by the way. We've got exit strategies right here. You nailed it. Hi, I'm Adam Curry. I used to hate dogs until I found the love of my pooch with the new COVID shampoo. Only one end of show mix for today, everybody.

It'll be the full Jeff Smith Build Back Better song. It is up for sale for any globalist who would like to license it from the No Agenda Gitmo Nation Jeff Smith Publishing Company, which now exists. It's our exit strategy. Oh, you imagine how much dough we could make if that thing became a hit worldwide? The sync writes alone. Oh, my God. There's your exit strategy, everybody. Make sure you turn on your favorite globalist to this next song. In the EU, a fantastic...

This could have been a Curry-Dvorak consulting group exit strategy. I am beating myself over my head that we missed this opportunity. I'm very, very disappointed in myself, in you as a consulting partner, founding consulting partner, and probably very disappointed in our associates known as producers of the show that no one came up with this. This must be really bad. You're scolding everybody.

97-year-old Colette Dupas, a nursing home resident in Jumon, France, has been taking precautions against COVID-19. She's been limited to speaking with her family via video call or through a window, but now Dupas is able to feel their touch through plastic, thanks to an inflatable tunnel known as the Hug Bubble. Baby, it even has one of our names, the Hug Bubble. This thing is fantastic. We could have manufactured them overnight.

Dupas' daughters recently visited her, putting one arm through an airtight sealed plastic sleeve to reach their mother and stroke her hair. Stephanie Lazo is an assistant at the nursing home. It has brought comfort. Residents would see their relatives through a window or through a camera, and they were really missing having real contact, and they are getting a lot of love. Before Dupas' daughters left, they took turns kissing their mother on the cheek through the plastic.

After guests leave, an employee disinfects the plastic sheet to prepare for another loving encounter in the Hug Bubble. Do you see the problem? Do you see the problem? Hug Bubble. It is disgusting. I mean, and it's, all it is, is it's a bouncy house, you know, a clear, without the colorful pieces, a bouncy house castle with two arms, and then your granny comes up, you can stroke her hair with the plastic. It's, it's beyond sad. Ugh. Very, very, very upset we didn't come up with that. Damn it.

And also got one of our, one of our producers saying, hey, I'm a dialysis technician. Urea is one of the waste products excreted in urine that we manually remove from people during dialysis. Your exit strategy is farming it from humans that are having it removed during dialysis. It gets a potassium and calcium to boot. There you go. We could be selling. We could be like another Dan Quayle. What? Taking advantage of the, of the human systems. Oh my goodness. Well, I just got aphids.

There's another thing they like to eat. I'd like to turn. What's an aphid? I'd like to turn that frown upside down and introduce to you a sure fire. 100% you hear how weak, how weak it is, how unprofessional, how it's just the messaging is all wrong. This is our exit strategy. We can, we can come up with tomorrow's caviar and it's cheap. It's cheap. We can have producers all over the world, all over Gitmo Nation. Keeping bugs. Well, there'll be licensed.

There'll be, there will be licensed affiliates. You know, we were franchising it and there will be approved bugs, but we market it as tomorrow's caviar. Great in audio too. It's a hard, the problem with the tech grouch and actually the tech hippie too. Yeah. Is that I developed these voices for him. And the tech grouch in particular was painful. Oh, it hurts your throat. And it hurts your throat. Yeah. And I try to make adjustments.

So I did, I need to go to a voice coach to do that voice correctly. Cause I was doing it incorrectly. And I would, and I just said, wait, wait, you went to a voice coach? No. I said, I need to go to coach to have them show me how to do that voice correctly without hurting my throat. So all we need is like, as a tech grouch saying something like, I was OTG before the Unabomber was in the woods, something like that. You know, that'd be good for the show.

Well, you can write the material if you want. Will you perform? Most of that was ad-libbed. You are so talented. Yeah. We could do that one of these days. Yeah. We'll put it on the list of great projects. Exit strategies galore everybody. ITM. We had a great meetup in Pittsburgh yesterday. We met at a park with a fireplace that we use, but it was still pretty chilly out. After making cinnamon rolls and candied bacon to bring, I wanted to also have a healthier option. So I made deviled eggs.

But after 10 minutes in 20 degree weather, they froze into eggsicles. Sad. The more you know. Wait a minute. Stop. Stop. This is an exit strategy. Eggsicles. Are you kidding me? Eggsicles. You're going to kill him there. The more you know, she continues. And thank you. I have a feeling that eggsicles. It could be a snack that children could just get into around the world. Think about it. I mean, who doesn't love a deviled egg? Now you could savor it for hours on end. I'm liking this.

I'm all in on it. You've got karma. I don't think Tina would be very happy with this idea, which is she is from California. And probably she didn't do what I did, which was take the course on sexual harassment, employee, how to hire, how to fire the thing that I was required to take. And you never took ad media. I fast forwarded through it. Yes. Yeah, you didn't take it. The fact if you have this exemption in hand and you give it to your employer and they say they asked you one question.

You can sue them. About your religion. And then she says, well, then you can go back and go talk to the you can go back and talk to we can get you some more backup. And then no, no. If they ask you one simple question, you can sue them. And she says, well, you don't want to have a hassle with your employer. The amount of money you can make from suing your employer in California for something as simple as them asking you about religion is millions of dollars. Hello. Exit strategy.

Well, we just need to get employed to each other. It's never going to happen. These are the employers. But this is like and disinvites. Another thing she overlooks again, even though she's from California, she obviously never took the training. No, she never did the work. Nope. There will be what you experienced, which are the embedded scammers through state who get into a company just long enough to look, look at it here. Look, look, right. Yes. Remember that Kleiner Perkins?

Yeah. Find the open spot, the open sore and just go for the dough. And they they'll bring down tens of millions of dollars. There's so much opportunity here in California. She doesn't realize this when she says, well, we have to work. You know, that's bullcrap. Maybe, maybe, wait, wait, wait. Maybe that's because she wants you to come back to her and her lawyer pals because that's that's their gold mine. They're not charging anything for this. It's a value for value model. Yeah, but yes.

And the value is once you have a problem, you come back to us and then we screw your Yeah, I'm sure that's just minor. The and if you're the person you were just informing these everyone that if you have this opportunity and I think that document, if you imagine it being signed and then notarized, yeah, look, it needs a raise. It was pretty good. Yeah. Raised seal and everything. Yeah, it would look pretty good. And you take it in and say, OK, whatever.

So should the employee most employees don't give a crap. We always joke about our exit strategy. But I think there's one that may actually work for us. A real exit strategy. Are you ready for it? I'm all ears. The hot things with it's so hot. All the kids are doing it. Even the NBA is doing it. Have you heard of NFTs? It's the new hockey strike means fine tobacco. No, no, no. NFT stands for non fungible token. And this is being used with digital media, either a piece of art or a piece of video.

And this one image is marked and registered on a block chain, which is finite. So there can no no extra tokens can be included. And I'll and I'll give you the example of the NBA. The NBA. It's like trading. It's like trading cards. And there's only one of each. And your ownership of it is proven on the block chain. And these things are going for millions of dollars. It's the ultimate collectible. It is digital. You don't have to send anything.

And people pay in in cryptocurrency to have ownership of these tokens, of these of these digital assets. And this thing is huge. I hope it's as good as my one square inch of the moon. It's very similar to that with the NBA. So you can you can buy them, but then you can also trade them. And so the value goes up. And as people are trading these digital assets, the NBA is making money off of the trading. And so I was thinking, what could we possibly do? And I came up with the following idea.

What if we had an NFT for the no agenda episodes and the initial price of each individual item would be complete ownership of an episode? And episode one would go up for sale for $1. Episode 1325 would go up for sale for $1,325. Do you see the Ponzi building? Well, there's no Ponzi. Ponzi implies that you're shoveling what you make back into the deal. We're not. We're just taking it. Yeah. These things are crazy hot. Wasn't there something worth thinking of turning into a market?

Well, this is it. This is it. We could do jingles. We could do the artwork. We could we could be selling by the time we're done. We'll be millionaires and we'll have nothing left. We'll have no ownership. Look them up. OK, how that would work. I'm identifying this as a huge deal. The NBA is doing it. So it's legal. Yeah, if the NBA is doing it, then, you know, everything's on the up and up. Yeah. I'm very excited about it. Very excited about this. Whereas we thought Bitcoin was Beanie Babies.

This NFT stuff, it's truly the analog. It is the Beanie Babies of cryptocurrency. And it's very scammy. And my after some research, my initial thought was we really want nothing to do with this. And then I thought, wait a minute. What if all of the producers, what if we all got in on the scam? Because you can program who gets what when you sell it.

And we drive this thing up like crazy and sell it all to some suckers who think that this thing is hot, even though it's really just a complete pump and dump by the no agenda nation. You know, it's like collusion, full on insider trading. I mean, can we do this? It's called conspiracy to commit a felony. It's not a felony. What do you mean? It will be. We can get it under the wire if we do it now. You're no fun. You're no fun. I'm all game. You're game for this, by the way.

I'm not completely objecting to it. Oh, OK. So we've got to work it out a little bit. But in essence, we just have to get people buying and selling this and tapping it up a little bit every single time and until some sucker comes in. And we have to have trust in the group, right? You have to have trust that if someone buys something for 500 bucks, that there will be someone there who's going to buy it for 501 because that person will know.

So we all have to have some kind of code so we can identify fellow travelers. And the minute you're above, let's say, $10 ,000, it's not like you're starting the communist party the way you're doing this. I'm sorry. I'm exit strategy. I need a vacation. No agenda. Art generator dot com. For all your NFT joy, it's using that to mine Bitcoin. And and so that's changing. But I had a I would like to go with this. And I think we should look at everything in our green economy.

We should look at everything this way. How much electricity does it cost to do that? And you can shame people on that. And I think if you are a podcaster and you are worried about how much electricity is being wasted, you need to make shorter podcasts. Much, much shorter. All podcasts for green energy should be no longer than 15 minutes. Really, you have a green podcast. It should have a label. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. Green, green podcast. No, no, we need a word.

Green podcast, seal of approval, podcast, podcast, green podcast certified. No, it has to be something better than that. Come on, it would be it wouldn't take us more than a few minutes to dream something up that would work. And you being the inventor of the process and the promoter of podcasting 2.0, you're in a perfect position to be part of this. Yes. What does a LEED stand for? LEED is the certification, right? What? LEED, L-E-E-D.

That's the that's the certification for buildings, leadership and energy and environmental design. LEED that they have the certification. So maybe we should just make it PEED. PEED. There you go. No, that doesn't sound. That's it. Exactly. PEED, your podcast is PEED certified. Nice. We need a logo. It needs to look like the LEED logo or it'll just say PEED. No, it needs to look, you know, that little kid that's on the back of vans that's peeing on something. Or like the little guy.

There's your logo right there. We just licensed that. You too can have an official piss pod. I mean, it just keeps writing itself, John. Oh, yeah. OK, potential exit strategy, ladies and gentlemen. We have enough stuff to deal with. But if it's audio only, OK, then it makes it silly. There's one thing that I had to thought about. If someone hasn't already done this, you might want to consider it. Clubhouse. I mean, I've not been on there. I've seen plenty of videos. I'm not interested at all.

Please only see videos if it's audio only because the people record it and then post their the screen recording of their phone where you see the little icons light up when they're talking and they record it. That's how you record the clubhouse meeting. So it's a video of of what people look at on their phone, which is just a screen filled with people on stage or not or in the audience. What I don't understand is why anyone is wasting any time on this.

You need to go straight to corporate this thing, this conference call app. That's what it is. It's a conference call app should be sold as a conference call app. It would revolutionize conference calls. Conference calls in business suck ass. The free numbers suck. They're horrible. They're no good. This is perfect. You can moderate. You can give someone the microphone, bring them up on stage. You can shut people down. This is a great product for business for for people.

It is destructive and stupid just as a consumer app. Well, that's what sounds like an exit strategy. And I didn't want to mention this baby over to business. Yes, we could. We too can just license the Chinese back in technology. That's where they get it from. Yeah. All of the Chinese a license to anybody. Best price. Best price. One of our dudes named Ben might want to help us along. Help us exit. Yes, we need a dude named Ben that can help us on this because we're too old.

Speak for yourself, young man. Time to exit. Time to exit. First of all, they did mention the forgery issue, which is something you should be concerned about if you do want to actually take this seriously, even though there's no reason to. And then you can have a discussion of that at the same time, promoting somebody tweeting pictures of their card, which then can be extracted from the tweet or the Instagram post. And you can cut and paste and create your own cards.

Although as I because I brought this up before on the show, somebody sent me a link. I think it was Wyoming's. I think it was the Wyoming State Health Department. They actually have the card online printable. If you're a doctor, you just go to this link and you download the card, print it on some card stock. John, John, you're pretty good with the GIMP exit strategy, baby. Making fake, fake vaccination cards. We take Bitcoin.

Now, the question in my mind is, if that's true, why does the testing have to involve going up the nose and down the throat when your mouth is obviously filled with covid viruses or you wouldn't need these rules? I'll make I'll do you one better on this. And I'm very, very excited about this. NASCAR just announced at the Atlanta Motor Speedway, they will be using covid detecting dogs. And I'm very excited because if this is true. OK, that's the topper. If this is true, you win the show.

Then then if this is true, then you can don't swab me. Just have your dog sniff me. That happens at the airport. I'm OK. In fact, NASCAR went so far as to say in a bulletin sent to teams, quote, these dogs have shown to be as effective as PCR tests in identifying an infected person and are already being used by professional sports teams, hospitals and many other businesses to screen employees and guests. Well, this is fantastic. And it's an exit strategy.

We have nothing but dog people listening to the show. We need to immediately go start training, certifying. Well, that that brings up and we have a distributed dog covid sniff dog sniffing protection system. We can rent everybody's dog out. This brings that brings it to the fore, which is how do you train a dog to do this? Well, we'll get we'll get the you just don't tell the dog, hey, dog. That's why you're sniffing around, which you seem to be doing all day. It's all you do.

Can you when you spot a covid person, can you let us know? Let's see. We'll be working. Who is this? This is NASCAR. We'll be working with this 360 canine group, a provider of specialized detection dogs that serves industries ranging from the federal government, sports teams, cruise lines, hospital and other large venues. So this is already rolling out, but it's not being talked about. They've they've worked with the USDA since 2013 to detect viruses in plants with great operational success.

So I guess you just you know, you just take an infected swab oozing with the covid and say here Fido Sniffy. Their newest company, Biodetection K9. Oh, that's a that's a that's a TV. There goes your exit strategy. They got to get the name Biodetection K9. Oh, man. Yeah, shoot. Now, meanwhile, in America, mainstream media. And finally, if you like mac and cheese, you'll love this craft has created the first ever grilled cheese incense to make your home smell cheesy all the time.

Yeah, baby, that's America. Foam finger. Number one, you're rocking it. If who wants to go into somebody's house, that stinks of cheap, it's beyond cheap cheddar. This is a cheap scent. It's probably just chemicals that are they heat up and it makes it smell like a like cheap cheese. Really? You've got to think that maybe there was an accident in the lab. I'm like, wow, what is this crap? Hey, I had that. I have an idea. We'll turn it into a candle. Hey, now exit strategy. There's a thought.

What about actual mac and cheese candles? OK, maybe not burn. Now, meanwhile, in America, mainstream media. And finally, if you like mac and cheese, you'll love this craft has created the first ever grilled cheese incense to make your home smell cheesy all the time. Yeah, baby, that's America. Foam finger. Number one, you're rocking it. All right, time. Have a good one. Thanks for your service.

I'm McNuggets with the about actual mac and cheese candles out of real okay maybe not it'll burn the FTC and if somebody as some of the group was during the Obama administration made a huge fuss about people on Twitter in specifically yeah pretending to like something because they got paid to pretend to like it right and there was supposed to now they had to be disclosed you had to disclose doing this yeah that's what I thought well I don't see any disclosures going on

on tick-tock that woman's little bust out there which I thought was admirable on her part I would say indicates that there's a bunch of people that you seem to go or showing up taking the vaccine and getting paid this is against the law that's what I was thinking that that's not the way it's supposed to work where's the enforcement we need to follow the rules well there's some it's a law it's not a rule it's a law and it's being broken left and right and nobody's doing anything about they should

be arresting people left and right and throwing him in jail that's what I think the United States Center for Disease Control and Prevention has reached an agreement with popular video game deals Twitter account Wario 64 yes wario see this coming wario 64 has about 900,000 followers on Twitter and they've come to an agreement so that the Twitter account not saying that's a person a company I just the Twitter account wario 60 for 64 will now be paid to announce kovat 19 vaccine availability

nationwide I mean these are good little deals you can get from the government today shit man exit strategy would just reverse everything take some dough tell everyone vaccines are great and then we'll split it all we'll make everybody whole on the back end but those are those are customers and you have to pay for this system and so Apple communicates with them and I got an email hey podcaster we're gonna tell you about this new stuff and it's probably going on right now they

just started actually they so that so that you know that's the Apple customer who is not a customer of Apple is these app developers they don't pay Apple to use their API it was just an accident that it was available and so within Apple when these changes occurred there was no one representing app developers who were sucking off this index and so they weren't considered and it just got turned off overnight it's just it's a complete mess and they're not gonna try and fix

that so with some from the future foresight this podcast index dot org turns out to be a lifesaver I mean we've like big shows are just gone not available on any app anywhere Wow yeah well you lucked out women lucked out you got the you got you got the index there for people to fall back on anyone's paying us for this I'm just saying a podcasting lucked out that's what happened well they're not paying you but eventually you're gonna monetize this thing and screw

them just like Apple did since you just expose my exit strategy I'm cutting you out of the deal Dvorak and this is this is I feel very very bad because this is going to this is exactly what the World Economic Forum has predicted you're not gonna own anything slave not because you won't don't want to because you can't and people are talking about prices doubling in the next year doubling what is going on what is going on that's just it said these things blow

up of course because these ideas are perpetual right but that'll cause a huge crash if that happens won't it I don't know I don't know what's gonna maybe should just sit tight and then make even more money when you sell the house if you can but then again there's always the up there's a collapse that's what I'm saying eventually has got to be a clap who knew that my exit strategy would be the house most people's exit strategies the house yeah that's why it's

a shame that the Millennials haven't been able to get in on this yeah the property ladder is important like symptoms and that was conflated with the kovat numbers yeah I think you know what bothers me and it's a problem that you and I have with this particular show a year ago we pretty much had already figured most of these things out we figured out the droplets we think you know we had the numbers we saw the flu cases were gone long before that was recognized we looked at you know the the

true data we you know we saw the the bait-and-switch charts and graphs they kept pulling up I think Osterholm still thinks we're gonna die next week and you know the gain-of-function research all of this stuff all of this stuff we have talked about and of course branded by many as kovat deniers and nutjobs conspiracy theorists yes and and then it comes out we're doing is playing clips I might add Adam Curry's a nutjob and the only by the way I think you should sue him for not actually

being a nutjob I think it was libelous what he said oh interesting exit strategy an attorney about the exit strategy anybody John and I yes I'm talking to the trolls now we had an idea to really do a morning zoo type episode of a show yeah and and we were talking about this after the after the last show actually and we've already put together the cast but we did we're missing we're missing one important member so to review for a morning zoo show now I are you gonna be my sidekick or

am I your sidekick it doesn't matter much well I'm thinking about I'm thinking about producing the the thing and making Darren O'Neill your sidekick that's all he has to say by the way and then he can he can do yes okay I think that's a so you're the producer you're your coach coach John you got to have a name you gotta have a name you can't you can't you can't you can't just be John C Dvorak you so your coach John no I had to ask them serve MK ultra John or something jmk I don't know we'll

come up with it that's the least of our problems our real problem we're gonna discuss right now yes okay so here's the crew because you need a crew for the morning zoo so we got me we got Darren we got coach JCD known as the Widowmaker then we figured we need to have the now we need a woman who also who is there and does stuff like Oh Adam and and she also reads the news and that that is obviously Dame Jennifer and she says snide things besides just Oh Adam give

me an example of something snide well in other words if there be some moment where there's something that could be a double entendre she's the one who introduces oh right right right she okay oh that's what she said would come from her this is gonna be legendary now then we needed actually we wanted a well you can't be coach me the coach for sports and in sports when it comes to morning zoo format you want a guy who is familiar with sports but can also be the community affairs director and and

we'll call him coach and has to be a black guy and since we only know one black guy it's got to be Mo yeah Mo Faxon sports he's a sports guy so we can do it and then the final thing is where we're stuck we're stuck and that is the the entertainment reporter that has to be a gay guy and has to sound like a gay guy we talked about this and we decided because of today's today's market you can't have a guy who sounds gay we have to have a genuine gay person you gotta have a gay guy

yes yeah but he has to also sound gay which is a stereotype mostly on found on the West Coast it's a West Coast gay because everyone in the rest of the country they bitch you everyone I've listened enough talk shows and podcasts where the gays get together and complain about this accent yeah of course that the West Coast guys have and it's the it's the Hollywood gay bullcrap both phony baloney gay ish sound but but so we have requirements not you have to sound gay but you also have to be gay

yeah you have to be gay and we were taking auditions so yeah I was supposed to have a script ready I won't have it already probably until the Thursday show because we want everyone to read from the same script I'm gonna hound so we have to hound you over this and we need to get that it will definitely get it written we need to get that yeah we'll have a so they have to do this and they have to do it in their best manner best Matt get this you know it said we were up for criticism for even

bringing this kind of thing up well what's interesting is I'm already seeing but if anybody wants to audition yeah and just so you know the reason why ours our entertainment reporter has to has to be gay because that's the rules in Hollywood in case you hadn't noticed you can't play someone on the spectrum unless you're on the spectrum everyone knows this now so we're just following the rules man every day all day without exception yeah if you go if you watch any of these

shows or but the reason that this formula comes to mind is because this is if anyone has a morning zoo show in their neighborhood you'll notice that this is pretty much the model that everyone uses because it's a it works because it's so exciting and fun to listen to I don't know if it's still working that well and there's a lot of banter banter between the two hosts and the gay Hollywood guy oh yeah totally yeah and then and that's when Jennifer jumps in and says that's what she said you know

that's just in there we're talking to the to the entertainment guy and then Dame Jennifer comes in with that it's gonna be beautiful it will be a piece of legend doing a pilot we're doing a pilot oh my god okay we're doing a half hour pilot who's writing this pilot because it can't be I'll be doing a lot of the writing but most of it's just gonna be ad -libs obviously because you know doing a morning show we would I think a lot of these shows have some music no they have

all kinds of music beds running underneath when they're talking there's all kinds of yeah we can do that yeah so it'll be good I'm very excited might get work it's this is our final exit strategy it's on you anonymous gay guy out there who's gonna save us and they go and these drivers that go out and it's every night it's all over Austin they're parking they're driving they're comparing their systems and the base is reverberates for miles and you know I was just as

you're describing this they have those in parts of California right but we're that's one of the reasons we're moving but how about this for a exit strategy oh oh another one you produce some tapes or CDs in the case of depends on the gear and you go from you find these guys there's a bunch of them there's hundreds of them they have these systems and you have them play these things through neighborhoods which are announcements attention citizens and it would be like it would

be like those old members in the movies you see the car going down with the big bullhorns on its roof yes and it would be today there's a sale on it Rayleigh's asparagus is 99 cents a pound so we're going to we're gonna become sellers of advertising space in this medium is that you're right no one else is doing it okay I'll take it into consideration eyes I mean I don't know what you're talking about did no sound effects where was the horse where was the horse was it a farm horse a Dre horse was

it a horse what kind of horse stay safe that's how you do a report that's why did why don't whatever happened to people going in to the TV studio and hijacking it where are those good old days I think that they put in countermeasures so you can't really do it hmm too bad those days were fun you know and we could go in this NPR station take over so get out of the way lady you're boring killing us with that nobody listens what good is it gonna do there's that okay okay

I'm just trying to think of exit strategies that's the way they're pretty yeah permitless yes permitless carry I've been out here we read that now you don't need a permit or training just buy a gun just that everywhere that's correct there's a vending machine you can pick up a Ruger oh my god great idea I think I will get one going that would be a great business just have a Ruger vending machine on the street I think so too at the airport on your way out you can get the iPod you

can get a you know extra battery pack and a blow-up pillow and there's a Ruger and here's a 9 mil it's perfect that's a good idea all right another exit strategy is in the works we may not even return Thursday right place at right time yeah yeah what are we doing wrong bro what are we doing wrong John everything we do is wrong all right well here's my exit strategy my personal exit strategy I was so happy to hear a US senator speak in these terms it is US Senator Loomis who is Loomis l-u-m-m-i

-s newbie she's one of the I think she's one of the radical Republicans radical Republicans I think I don't know I just never mind what I just said I don't know what I could be it could be I'm just curious I'm I've heard her name I think it's a woman yes she's new Cynthia Marie the new Trumpers I think she's a Trump oh wait now she has a fulness it's Cynthia Marie Loomis Peter Spahn oh is an American politician and attorney serving as the junior United States senator from Wyoming is she's

the first woman to represent Wyoming in Senate a member of the Republican Party she served as the u.s. representative for aiming at a large congressional district from 2009 2017 okay she's all in on the Bitcoin not just for herself but also for the state of Wyoming I like this report senator Cynthia Loomis of Wyoming is the founder of the financial innovation caucus in Congress she's been a major advocate for cryptocurrencies on Capitol Hill and I sat down with her for CNBC's financial advisor

summit and she told me she envisions Bitcoin in particular becoming an important component of individual retirement portfolios she believes it can serve as a hedge against inflation as the size of the nation's debt relative to GDP hits historic highs I encourage people to buy and hold I encourage them to say Bitcoin for their retirement for their future and that's because as the Congress spends trillions and trillions of dollars and is flooding our economy and the world

economy with US dollars there's no way that we cannot debase the value of the US dollars and Loomis practices which she preaches she's an investor in Bitcoin as well I buy Bitcoin and I hold Bitcoin you buy Bitcoin oh yeah you have Bitcoin I do how much Bitcoin do you have well I only have I think five only five Bitcoin but she bought them in 2013 for about $300 each so she can now add a couple of zeros to that number and Wyoming is in the process setting of setting up its

own crypto banking system that Loomis hopes will become a model for other states as well so we have El Salvador Mexico now Mexican banks now starting Paraguay and now the state of Wyoming with their own I don't know what's wrong with gold but okay nothing's wrong with gold I don't think people are against gold at all but okay no it seems like they are no that the only thing different between Bitcoin and gold is it's a lot easier to pay with can I have

the antibodies test so I'm negative for kovat negative for antibodies and she told me she said there's actually evidence and she's a she was a nurse in hospitals as well that babies that drank breast milk from mothers who had antibodies had antibodies and I'm thinking exit strategy product seriously I mean it's made by nature it's what you just heard because that was now again what you just heard was someone got the vaccination right and it was the spike proteins that got into the milk

and I know I'm just saying that was an interesting side note but this is this so what she's taught what she discussed earlier was the so-called self spreading vaccines we've we've talked about that at least we've seen it I think we talked about it briefly and that would be through the use of these exosomes nice I recently supported a SPAC huh a SPAC white paper 250 listed SPACs from 2018 to 2021 for my firm I believe things are developing with the SEC intervention

slash adaption to allow SPACs to become more typical a more typical vehicle for public listening any input from John well I I think you're probably right can you please send me the list yeah I mean you got yeah I mean I want to you can you send me a note John a Dvorak DVR DV or AK dot org and I wanted because I think there's some SPAC opportunities that are because when these things take off I mean it's you're talking about one week 10 bagger it's like ludicrous investment so yeah like

$10,000 10 bagger means 10x Wow exit strategy bring on the SPACs you know speaking of exit strategy one presented itself to us just out of the blue yeah yeah there's a whole Twitter thread this one person's like hey I really like the Noah Jenner show I'm trying to figure out the lingo and Tina the Keeper jumped in you know people explaining what certain things certain things meant but then I got this tweet I haven't I haven't replied to it yet please excuse the

noob question but what is that no agenda Zephyr economic indicator I've searched on trading view but I can find nothing of the sort the trading view is a charting program where you can do technical analysis I was thinking we should have Horvitz make one of those you know indicators it's just a little code that would be the no agenda Zephyr economic indicator you people subscribe to those those indicators like you know 20 bucks a month they do they do I'm just a thought I

don't know if that's an exit strategy but it's a good idea just just thought I'd bring it up I like the idea myself that is why there is so much fear in the country about what this means for Rowe because they didn't stop Texas and the idea of pitting neighbors against each other colleagues snitching on each other because someone is desperately trying to potentially desperately trying to safeguard their health in the house and made perhaps the health of their their unborn child this is

just all right all right all right you need to you need to bend over because this is well-deserved that was a great clip damn Skippy so you're trying to protect a health of the unborn child by killing it I would like to reiterate this point that I am completely okay with abortions as long as we are also and we get the television rights able to show capital punishment executions live on television I think that is a fair trade-off death for death we want the rights to produce yeah that's

the exit strategy that make us multimillionaires but unfortunately it's never gonna not gonna happen oh my god by the way the most dangerous bike ever drove was a Honda 50 well the one doesn't go it doesn't stop it just doesn't go it doesn't stop so you get it going you know you finally gets up to some speed you can't stop the damn thing so that is a death trap I'm glad they took him off the market my last ride was a motocross it was a celebrity ride and I had always ridden

like 125 maybe a 250 they gave me a KTM 450 and I went up on the like the table jump and I landed and somehow my wrist just kind of went down and the bike shot off and I've landed flat on my back and that was it I couldn't I couldn't poop straight for a year after that when we're doing this show when that happened I have no idea it's a horrible story well let's start off with our donations yes instead of our tales of whoa tales of old dudes and bikes hey that's another exit strategy as I hear

that car talk is gone so it can be old dudes with bike talk yeah what do you need a special bottle for if you can't get your special bottles once you get the 750s that are very common and available and use those instead of the funny shape 750 that you obviously have custom-made because you can't get them for some unknown reason it doesn't make any sense this story nothing's gonna die in the vats well I actually had a thought about this how about jugging the wine up if you know you

know you're close you're close I'm thinking stay with me because we are uniquely positioned for this this is an exit strategy no agenda box wine think about it well I don't have to be shame I'm game for no agenda box wine except for there's a couple problems one most of these places have bottling facilities on site the bottling facility to make boxed wines is specialized equipment that would cost more than it's worth really I thought well then why do they even put it in

boxes if it's so franzia and those guys who make the boxed wine they're the inventors of it pretty much or fran fran's got some European companies we can't just go that's what they have they have this specialized equipment that makes boxed wines we can't just order from them a whole bunch of boxes you'd have to get the wine to them and they'd have to job it to you I don't think it would be I mean there are other people making boxed wines I've noticed

them you know these different kinds of generic boxed wines at Target has a bunch of crazy labeled right this is where we should label in Target we should be in Target with a dynamite packaging and it should be like you know it should be an Easter egg where people like dude have you tried the new no agenda box wine it's like that's just really good yeah John C. Dvorak renowned that would actually this is what I'm saying this I have had good boxed wines it's always French how about no agenda

so you could there is a possibility of making boxed wine that's quality wine in the United States I've just never had it right I'm just thinking ahead you know for when we're 80 well you know it's we could have we could have a whole line game for this I'm game to build out a boxed wine company yes no agenda woke wine would be one and walk wine well I think we want to have some other sub labels perhaps woke just a wine for you big black letters woke it's the wine for

the progressive liver yeah and actually progressive light progressives believe it or not are the ones who drink a lot of the boxed wine because they don't know any better and they put it in the refrigerator that's what's cool about especially the whites go on the box goes in the refrigerator and you go and would you like a glass of wine honey and you go open the refrigerator door and you squirt out some of the boxed wine into a glass and you bring it out just some shard for you and I say

that shard shard for you shard or so it's a pre pinot grigio by the way we had a guy at time I got to get this winemakers name the guy was up at the wait wait woke wine it's the wine for the progressive generation come on man I'm feeling it I'm in shard for you I mean there's shard it's never ending I'm so happy I got you excited I thought I was not gonna Merlot no how about that Merlot no yes I know and think about the fantastic art we could have and you know so and and by the way

we'll put lost dogs on our carton we got to bring in more of these great elements like the lost dog yeah it would be huge idea of a big black cube though just as the art for woke sounds about a just a black cube with the word cab on the side and huge letters I'd like Franklin either there wouldn't be Franklin gothic you'd want some serif font but you just have it on there because it was super bold super heavy yeah I'm I'm so I'm so well shit man someone already has

woke wine calm what the hell there goes our exit strategy no it's still available you can buy it for three and a half thousand dollars power you can lease to own did you think you can lease a domain name only 292 dollars a month how much 292 a month it's least to own least to own about woke dot wine I think there's a dot wine I think this is I think we have we have a product here and our everyone can chip in everyone can work about it and work out and maybe they can chip in chip in yes

chip in maybe we probably have a producer that listens to show that knows all about box wines probably works for one of the big wine boxing companies oh and by the way small batch oh yes small batch artisan artisan box to wine there you go we artisan and we need people are trolls are already offering to invest in this project yeah I know we this could be dynamite do it one of those public one of those there's a there's a type of investment you can do yes that is where people you

know beer breweries do it constantly yes I'm getting straight money in there boom next thing you know we're the box wine guys yep right who's gonna run it who's gonna run the business oh we have to hire somebody I know anyone we know we're just gonna do we're gonna do auditions we're gonna like job interviews auditions that's a funny way to put it isn't that what it is yeah kinda would I think what we should put this and we put it on the on the burner on the it's on the burner

ladies and gentlemen it is on the burner the woke wine but this is the one that that has everybody really worried and this comes from the Guardian just as reliable as the Daily Mail Fox News check it out is about to launch a 24-hour weather channel and this has climate crisis researchers worried about the channels reach to perpetuate misinformation and advanced political goals through the weather this is so obvious I'm pissed at us I'm pissed at ourselves for not seeing this obvious exit

strategy this is start a weather channel that that debunks yes what were we thinking yeah well we weren't we weren't Fox weather Fox weather everybody with Shep Smith bring him back a 24-hour channel devoted to all things meteor meteorological promises cutting-edge display technology hmm forecasting experts surrounding every major weather event and I bet there be panel discussions boots on the ground panel I want to work for this outfit this is that looks like fun

let's bring in our panel we'll talk about yes we'll talk about the weather the wine box the woke box with the 14 years we felt wouldn't connect you know it's too early in the exit strategy we're not we haven't positioned it by the way in the show notes today one of our mark don't I don't I think you're on the email he did two product shots of the no agenda box wine known as woke wine yeah woke wine oh my god it's so beautiful what he's done it's bored b-o-r -d for you and shard for you I

mean it's this product is real all we need is some hooch to put in it and we can sell there are a bunch of private labelers that maybe can do the job for us we need someone to step in because this is big you know there's an Austin box wine company that's doing up upscale box wines who knew yeah well this is the thing you have to do be it has to be upscale because that's the key yeah the question is do we spell wine with an H or not that's no well he's not yes I don't think that

was his goal his goal was to it was the trumpet the greatness of diversity all right let's back it up a little and continue that's theater owners and producers and the Actors Union co-signed a 17 page diversity pledge with a group of artists called black theater United they've agreed to set up trainings and mentorship programs and they'll make sure that creative teams aren't all white and that's something that the dramatist guild which represents playwrights composers

and lyricists have done as well they've added an inclusion rider to their contracts and then there's an organization called the Broadway Advocacy Coalition it just one night what did he just say they're all white and that's something that the dramatist guild which represents playwrights composers and lyricists have done as well they've added an inclusion rider to their contracts and then there is an organization called the Broadway Advocacy Coalition it just won a special Tony Award that's

young with some current Broadway shows the Lion King company Tina is Jalien Livingston is a member of the group and he says he hopes the training sticks oh man this is depressing I'd like me a musical yeah you got two more this is it's worth it it's worth it I'm kind of digging this nut hey we go let's exit strategy exit strategy for exit strategy the woke Awards what do you think oh yeah yeah the woke Awards nice had Freddie Mac Fannie Mae now Nicky Mac they are collateralizing debt does it

sound anything like 2008-2009 where we're going to have all of this stuff built into these bonds and that is that's where the money is it's trading these bonds as expertly explained by Alison McDowell so this idea of a social impact bond is essentially reimagining our lives and social relationships as future debt projections whether that's being educated whether that is health care whether that is housing access or subsidies food subsidies being involved in the judicial system

all of these have numbers attached to them and then they say well if you can if we can provide an evidence-based what works intervention we will pay this much money which is a smaller amount than we would pay if you all these bad things happen to you and we would have to pay a lot more to fix you after the fact we'll just preemptively fix you only the problem is is essentially pre-crime now the problem is is that the terms of these

agreements which are essentially privatizing government services privatizing services that the government should just be de facto providing but then the government through austerity says we can't provide it unless we can be assured that it works and so they outsource it to these nonprofits to some of whom are faith based nonprofits to do these social welfare services under conditions of a performance -based contract the profit isn't in the tiny slice of return on investment it is actually

in the fact that they're gonna securitize all the debt and that hedge funds are gonna trade off of that debt the game can't go unless you have the structure they can't run the bets unless the game goes on so they have to build the game and that game is being built right now they need all of the data to slosh around in a big pool because they can't justify taking profit off the fact that you didn't become addicted if they can't track that against some intervention they put you on in middle

school all of that data has to interlock and that's what's going to come with digital identity and that digital identity system is something that the the worldwide web consortium has been working on for like 15 years and I had thought it was going to come through education transcript records but clearly now it seems like the much bigger plan is to have it come through these medical passport protocols then there you go Oh funny roundabout way to get to the end now and it was

good so you brought up the 2008 debacle so what we have to do is figure out what is the equivalent what's the short default swap what's the short no it's the credit default swaps mm-hmm because it wasn't shorted it was a day we just went under you couldn't short those things yeah you just picked up the insurance this is our massive exit strategy is that what I'm hearing of the plotting over beyond an exit strategy this would be a massive amount of wealth

the whole no agenda get Monation could exit oh yeah excellent now there's something that you need to know which may offer an opportunity for an exit strategy I know you're interested I am Dame Angela from Vegas contacted me and she says Adam things are going so well I know she has a production company and she's just Vegas had the biggest revenue month last month of all time not pre -kovat of all time he says the master mandates pretty much gone all the all the

plexiglass that was separating all the players is gone and everyone you know Adele is now perform is getting ready to perform or the residency so Vegas is back she's got business she says I need to do something and she is going to create and she has the chops for it a documentary about get Monation the producers specifically and value for value and she's gonna set up a website and people couldn't talk about the value that they received from no agenda from no agenda nation

the value they've given back really about the value for value aspect and she's going to go to meetups and she's going to and she wants of course into you and interview me and then it hit me John Wow and I said well I said well first of all how can we help well interviews would be great and promote on the show of course no problem how you gonna make money how do you gonna fund it just well it has to be value for value okay so she understands how to do that and then I thought holy crap this is

it if there's one project that Adam Curry and John C Dvorak can pull off for an exit strategy with the companion documentary it is the value for value book throw out the pepper book throw out the vinegar book this is the book we could do this and it would be a classic for times it could usher in a new economic structure what pepper book I'm just making it up well the real book not a giblet a real book we both have to write here I can tell you being in the book

business at times books are one shots they go out they come out and then they die they're not sustaining unless you set up a seminar system where every month you have to go on the road and you go to some location and you talk to like either free seminars or the if you want to scam them into buying an upgrade or some cheap $100 deal where you get maybe a hundred people and you do that time and time again and then you sell the book at the end of the seminar and you it's it's a dead end okay well

I can't write the book I'm not saying you can't make some money from a book and it would be a good book to do and it's probably something that should be done is do you can make some money from seminars too but you know it's a dead end and it's a grind that's worse grind than we're doing well that's no exit strategy then not if it's a grind I thought it could be a fun book though it could be a useful book we could finally help people get out of the pricing

mechanism of Silicon Valley do it for the children I agree we should do the book anyway ah okay now you're talking let's just do the book listen you know we can maybe we set up a zoom masterclass we just do the book okay we'll do the book so I'm sure that we have pig farmers we got hog farmers amongst our producers let's let's get the inside dope yo on the pig piss you know the idea that somebody said they're burning pig urine out of the blue which is what triggered my thinking

here yeah that this stuff doesn't come out of nowhere the troll room blew up the minute I brought it up they're like oh pig pig piss pig piss and I didn't know and then I'm reading this article and it says it right there it said this is actually it said something a little different didn't it didn't say this is not true it said what is it pig urine is too funny here it is you may have seen rumors rumors that's you trolls that it contains pig urine but that is factually incorrect

no it's true it's factually incorrect because it's not exactly exactly yeah it's treated as you it's pasteurized pig piss there we go it's pasteurized this and homogenized for your now can we not can we not create this urea with this or that's not this it's two different things the urea is not the same as the PPP the PPP yeah the past right of clothing that's all pasteurized pig piss PPP of the P3 I think that could become a drink with the water buffalo milk oh my god PPP with alcohol it's the

new white claw exit strategy hello if you make a cool can and you put on that can pig piss it will sell like crazy it will sell like crazy especially in the frat houses of Stanford our fraud waste and abuse inspector checked in with me as you know she's she's out there identifying fraud waste and abuse in in everywhere she can within the the medical sector and sent me a screenshot of the Texas Human and Health Services internal email just listen to this second

round of grant funding available through the Texas vaccine outreach and education program this is this is an exit strategy for us if we weren't the way we are the Texas Department of State and Health Services is in partnership with Texas A&M Health announced the opening of the second round of funding for the Texas vaccine outreach and education grant program in this round organization can apply for grants to engage in vaccine education and outreach with the

goal of increasing the number of fully vaccinated Texans against kovat 19 now this is an interesting an interesting thing to get one of these grants do you know what these grants range from I'm holding on to my seat from 50,000 to 1 million dollars so to be a promotional operation you can get a million dollars you tell people to get vaxxed side of this coin that is starting to make the virus look a little bit more endemic now this might make some people think well sounds like I'm going to get

it and it could boost my immunity without a lot of risk so why not just get it over with but Camille and others say don't even think about it boosted even if overcomes milder it still can be really nasty even deadly don't forget about long kovat Omicron is going to inflict enough carnage and many scientists caution it's way too early to conclude with any certainty that will be on the right road after Omicron exit strategy idea we need some kind of box that you

can hook up to you know your speakers and whenever some messaging is coming through like that it does put that echo on automatically that was really beautiful because that's exactly what it's intended for you will obey yeah that's great good one good sweetening job some of the activities it was addressed by a child a couple months ago that they are put in an environment where there are kids that are that identify as a furry a cat or a dog whatever and so yesterday I

heard that at least one of our schools in our town has a in one of the unisex bathrooms a litter box for the kids that identify as cats and I am really disturbed by that and I will do some more investigation on that I know what's going on nationwide I know it is it's part of the agenda that's being pushed I don't I don't even want to understand it but I think that people need to be aware of it because I am really upset as a parent that my child is put in an environment like that and you know

I'm all for creativity and imagination but when someone lives in a fantasy world and expects other people to go along with it I have a problem with that dude that's a great this is so I mean we have furries who are producers of the show we got no problem with that sure we love your furries we got it we got our trans women we got everything some one of the kids to be pooping in that thing well I'm thinking this may be a potential exit strategy we can have kitty litter you

know approve people for furries furry litter which will be approved for for children you know we'll have it all organically tested make sure no one's allergic to it and you know we can actually have a contract to EU standards you standards of kitty litter yeah I'm kind of digging this but I can see where the parents might be concerned it might have some issue oh oh my goodness life is great it's your podcast you put it together you should be very proud of it you'd be very proud that we still can

go on our merry way and continue because we are not cancelable through advertising corporate money etc we're not financially cancelable the only way we can go away is either you stop supporting us or we find the real exit strategy I'm still looking for that one I think we should revisit the human furry kitty litter yeah I think that idea came and went I think we're gonna go back to the what you said at the end of that last clip which is we had a Reeve we had to revisit exit strategies in

general make it another show out of it yes someone that was very about it that was very entertaining you are correct yes sir conference John Jensen thank you so much we really appreciate that you put that together and again we have sir dean anonymous with the no agenda search it's being at dot IO it's clip genie calm if you want it for your own for your own podcast if you want to go check that out and we will continue to search for the exit strategy will it be a book will it

be a microphone company will it be a book that we put a phone and I don't know we'll try hey we'll be back on Sunday with a new live episode if you want to listen live fresh new content from the boys at no agenda until then coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in Fredericksburg Texas in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where I remain I'm John C Dvorak and remember us at no agenda donations calm we look forward to thanking you

all in the next episode until then adios mofos a hui and such