1771 - "Home Depotation"

Alright, this is the time of the year to plant. Adam Currie, John C. Devorak. It's Sunday, June 8th, 2025. This is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 1771. This is no agenda. Cutting through the grudge and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas food country. Right here in FEMA Region Number 6. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Currie. And from Northern Silicon Valley where they've called out the National Guards. It's authoritarianism. I'm John C. Devorak.

Oh man, it's on the quad! It's on the quad! Everybody's on the quad. Oh no! Trump calls out the National Guard. Doing what people asked him to do. Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. We can't have it. It's authoritarianism. It is authoritarianism, man. And the National Guard is standing there like smoking cigarettes. They don't know what to do. They're all standing around. Nothing's going on. Standing around. Everyone else is, they're riding!

No, they burned their old panties and everyone's live streaming it on Instagram and TikTok. I have not seen anything really happen. Well, there's that car on fire. Oh, a car on fire. They do that when we win the ball game. It's true. You win a Super Bowl and they put more cars on fire. Don't park around the Super Bowl. Well, I have a couple of clips because the BBC thinks this is a big deal. Oh yes, well the BBC would because it's going to happen in their town soon. Only for real.

But this is interesting. This clip is interesting because you know they want to turn it around and make it about Trump somehow being Hitler. Yes, of course. And so they talk about the event. They have some woman standing there and LA is in LA, by the way, for people out there who don't know where this is taking place. And by the way, for people who don't know what the Quad is, I have YouTube TV has a four screen multi-view, CNN, MSNBC, Fox and BBC.

That's the Quad. And so this woman reports, she's got nothing to say. So they bring on, of course, the main BBC guy. So he's going to bring an analyst in to discuss this. And here we go. Well, earlier I spoke to Scott Lucas, professor of US and international politics at University College Dublin's Clinton Institute. He's a professor. He's in Ireland. And his specialty is Trump derangement syndrome, I'm presuming. Well, National Guard is a long established institution.

It dates back to the 17th century when the U.S. was a British colony. And that is it was a local, effectively, militia. Now, as the U.S. developed as a country, you, of course, would eventually have the national military, but the National Guard would be overseen at state level. Now, they could be used in two cases. The federal government could request that the states deploy them, provide them, say, for example, at the start of the 21st century in Iraq, in Afghanistan.

They can also be used in national emergencies. And I emphasize real national emergencies. For example, in 1992, as you mentioned, in the L.A. uprising, after the beating of Rodney King, they were called out when the city suffered more than $1 billion in damage. And they can be deployed when states refuse to observe the law.

So the federal government in the 1950s under Dwight Eisenhower called out the National Guard to make sure that schools could be desegregated in Arkansas when Governor Falbus refused to do so. So in very specific situations where there is an imminent threat, the federal government can override the states and call out the National Guard. Hold on a second. He says two things here. Let me just get this right, and you've probably looked this up.

So the president can call out the National Guard in a situation where the state is disregarding the law, and that could be a danger. And then at the end, he says, but you know, if it's crazy, then he can call out the National Guard. And in this case, I presume legally, President Trump is called in the National Guard because the state of California is not cooperating with ICE to hand over criminals. So that sounds right. It sounds like the president is in his constitutional right.

You're too logical. Oh, I'm sorry. I don't work for the BBC. That's the problem. So a couple of things he did say I want to point out because he's going to be forced to contradict himself. He says he makes the point of real. He says real national emergencies, and he uses the word national real. That's what he said. Yeah, it's real. Rodney King was not a national emergency. No. It was a local situation in L.A. But I suppose you could, you know. It was not a good time. It was not a party.

The other one was Fauvist. There was a black kid. They wouldn't let him in the school. So they brought the National Guard and forced him to go in. That was during Johnson? No, this is Eisenhower. Oh, Eisenhower. I'm sorry. Yes, way before. And so that was hardly a national emergency. But whatever the case, he's kind of wandering here. He's not on the script because he should have already slammed Trump by now. So the BBC guy interrupts. Prompts him. Hey, you're not doing it right.

Interrupts him and puts him back on track. And then we get to hear what they're really trying to tell us. Here we go. What do you make of Donald Trump's decision to do it in this instance? It's unprecedented. It's unprecedented for the National Guard to be called out when you do not have that imminent threat. And I need to emphasize, protesters gathered last night, as you mentioned, outside this detention center because people are just being swept up. Many of whom have no criminal records.

And with a threat, they'll just simply be disappeared, deported without a due process of law. There were some people who were arrested when they failed to disperse, but there were a sum total of two. Two people who were arrested for assaults on police officers. One with a Molotov cocktail. Do you think that in the literature this professor has studied, that they speak of sweeping people up? Or is that just hyperbole from our professor?

He also used the word disappeared, which is a left-wing trope. I'll take it back to that. Deported without due process of law. There were some people who were arrested when they failed to disperse, but there were a sum total of two. Two people who were arrested for assaults on police officers. One with a Molotov cocktail, allegedly. So there was no imminent threat here. This needs to be called out what it is.

It is a political stunt by the Trump administration, both as part of that crackdown on migration, and also to try to expand its authority at the expense of the states, in what would some see as being effectively authoritarian. Oh, there it is. Oh, very good. Authoritarian. Every single one of my British and European friends, you know what they say? I can just imagine. Man, I wish we had a guy like that here. That's what they all say. That's what they all say. Yeah, there's that element.

That's when it really actually cracks me up. Yeah, of course. They won't say it in their own country for fear of retribution. And, you know, all the news, all of it is all swept up, you know, disappeared. Disappeared is my favorite. This is political speech. That's what that is. And it's kind of baffling. Well, no, not really, I guess. It's not baffling. What am I thinking? It's not really baffling. Do you have more? I have Ice Barbie, who was on the CBS Face the Nation.

Well, where I want to head toward, starting with that, is the going toward bringing back El Brego Garcia. Yes. Okay. Yeah. Which I have clips for, but I think Ice Barbie. I think, well, Ice Barbie is, okay, I always mix her up with Bondage. No, no, Ice Barbie is Gnome, Chrissy Gnome. The dog killer. Gnome, like Gnome, Alaska. She's cold. Yes, the dog killer. The dog killer. She has no heart, man. She's a dog killer. So thank you to the Jones Brothers Syndicate.

Neil always does throughout the week, and Steve has everything rolling in the morning, and that's why I was a little behind. I was late getting even the clean feed up for you because I was listening to the clips that were coming in. It's pretty cool to have it just before the show starts. So this is Margaret, your favorite, your gal, Margaret Brennan, with the Ice Barbie, Chrissy Gnome.

Well, we are seeing from the president's proclamation that he can federalize, he says, 2,000 California National Guard forces for 60 days under Title 10 authorities. Which units are being deployed? Are they military, police? And exactly what are their orders? Yes, President Trump is putting the safety of the communities that are being impacted by these riots and by these protests that have turned violent. And he's putting the safety of our law enforcement officers first.

So these 2,000 National Guard soldiers that are being engaged today are ones that are specifically trained for this type of crowd situation where they'll be with the public and be able to provide safety around buildings and to

those that are engaged in peaceful protests and also to our law enforcement officers so they can continue their daily work. Okay, that sounds ominous. This is not good, but we got to bring in the term federalizing. Federalizing, it's like the federal government is taking over the states. So our CBS team is reporting that the California National Guard officers are at that Edward Roybal Center in LA. This is a plaza with a federal building.

Courtrooms are there, a processing center, a detention center, a veterans clinic. Are the soldiers going to remain around the federal building? Are you planning to have them go throughout the city of Los Angeles? I won't speak specifically to all the locations where the National Guard soldiers will be deployed to or where they will be conducting different operations as far as security concerns.

They're there at the direction of the President in order to keep peace and allow people to be able to protest but also to keep law and order. That is incredibly important to the President. By the way, from what I can see, that's exactly what's happening. They're standing around. They're not in a line with their weapons drawn. They're just standing around and everybody else is protesting reasonably peacefully. They're all live streaming. This is an influencer event.

He recognizes he was elected to make sure that every single person in this country was treated exactly the same and that we would enforce the laws. That is what ICE is doing every day as they're out on our streets and working to go after bad criminals and people that have perpetuated violence on these communities. The gang members we have picked up in LA because of their hard work.

Our horrible people, assault, drug trafficking, human trafficking, they are now off of those streets and they are safer because these ICE operations are ongoing. Unfortunately, we've seen some violent protests happen and that's why these National Guard soldiers are being utilized to help with some security in some areas. Alright, so now we're just going to get down to it. Is it because the Los Angeles authorities will not cooperate with ICE?

Well, the U.S. Attorney in LA told CBS that LAPD did help. That's what is shocking to me, Margaret. Hours later, they waited until we had officers in dangerous situations, then they responded. Now, if that was my city and I was the mayor, I would be sending law enforcement in there to back up other law enforcement officers. That's what America is about. We have rules and we have laws. If you don't like the laws, go to Congress and change them.

Someone should go to Congress and say, change the laws if we don't like what's happening in this country. Do that instead of throwing rocks and throwing Molotov cocktails and instead of attacking law enforcement officers. We're just not going to do that anymore. This president cares deeply about family members that want to live in their communities and be safe. Back to the question, though, of active duty troops. Different from the National Guard.

What is your personal counsel here to the president? Because it's you, the Attorney General, and the Secretary of Defense. We're going to have a lot of responsibility here in implementing some of this call to do this. Well, let me be clear about something. ICE and Homeland Security are running these operations right now. And the advice and counsel of the Attorney General, the Department of Defense, are extremely important to the President of the United States.

And we never discuss our personal conversations and advice to the President of the United States. He makes the decisions. He is the president that sits in that seat. And we are all very proud to work for him. So I'm grateful for the leadership of Pete Hegseth and APM Bondi. And I get the chance to work with them. And as ICE does their job today, we're thankful to have the partnership and the leadership of President Trump. Oh, ICE Barbie, you're so boring.

The only thing that really I think is interesting about this is the masks. And this is the last clip of that. Before you play the next clip, what is Brennan trying to do here? Did you notice that she tried to pull in the active duty military? Because they keep trying to stick Trump. But he's going to make the military, which is not the National Guard. I mean, the National Guard is the military, but it's a different branch altogether. Even though it's associated. They're trying to make it scary.

Like he's turning the military on his own people like we said he would. Yeah, exactly. But it's interesting how she slipped it in. And Noam slipped past it. She should have addressed it and chewed her out for it, which I think Banz would have done. Yeah, well, ICE Barbie is cute, but she's not the best. I mean, she has kind of a stock way of talking. And then to say, oh, I'm excited to work with AG Barbie. Yeah, she's not as good as the other ones in terms of being aggressive.

I mean, Rubio would have done it. Oh, yeah. No, they're better. They're just better. It's okay. ICE Barbie is awesome in that role as ICE Barbie. Yeah, just put a flag dog killer. All right, the masks. This is the part that I thought was interesting for a certain reason. President Trump said masks will not be allowed to be worn at protests. Who's going to enforce that and how? And how can you justify it when law enforcement officials have their faces covered? Pull their masks down.

You know what I would say is that the law is going to be enforced. And what the laws are in this country is what we are doing. And our ICE officers and our law enforcement officers out there that are in these situations where people have questioned why they have their faces covered. It's for the safety of those individuals or the work that they're doing as far as protecting their identity so they can continue to do investigative work.

But are you tasking the National Guard soldiers with removing masks from protesters? I mean, are you trying to use them in that way? This is such an upside down world. For four years, the left was saying, wear a mask, wear a mask, wear a mask. And I was like, stop wearing your mask. National Guard soldiers are there to provide security for operations and to make sure that we have peaceful protests. So that's what their work is.

And I won't get more specific on that just because we never do when it comes to law enforcement operations. We're doing the same standard procedures we always do and have for years in this country with our National Guard and with our law enforcement folks that are on the ground working with these communities. Now, this is interesting, this mask issue, because Hakeem Jeffries, who is the... What is his actual title? He's the leader of the Democrat Party in the House, but has a name.

Yeah, he would be the next speaker. The guy, I've never said this on the show, but he just seems, looks like... He looks slow-witted, sounds dumb. He's a dummy. Well, here he is talking about the ICE agents and the whole mask issue. Every single ICE agent who's engaged in this aggressive overreach and are trying to hide their identities from the American people will be unsuccessful in doing that. This is America. This is not the Soviet Union. We're not behind the Iron Curtain.

This is not the 1930s. And every single one of them, no matter what it takes, no matter how long it takes, will of course be identified. That, in fact, is the law. Oh? And we're going to make sure that the American people have the transparency necessary to hold people accountable when they're folks who cross the line here in America. That's what's going to happen. So he is basically threatening to dox the ICE agents, to out them and let everyone know who they are so they can be...

And where they live and what their family looks like. Let's go back to January 26th of 2021. Hakeem Jeffries. Congressman Hakeem Jeffries of New York, chair of the House Democratic Caucus. Great to have you on, Congressman. Just tell me what you know and what you're willing to say. Obviously, there's some security concerns here about the threats this individual directed at family members, yours, on January 6th. This is something that unfolded on January 6th, directed at a family member of mine.

This individual apparently had secured a phone number, secured an address, made it appear as though they were prepared to proceed violently either at the address of my family member and or my own home address. He didn't like it when it happened to him. So, no, Hakeem Jeffries, don't do that. Just don't do that. So then we have the... There's a number of good gambits going on.

You identified it in the newsletter, and that is the return of the Maryland husband, the father from Maryland, the poor guy who got shipped off to El Salvador. Oh, well, you got to get the correct usage down. Oh, well, I'm sorry. Did I get it wrong? Yeah, he was accidentally shipped off or he was mistakenly shipped off. Swept up, swept up, swept up. Well, I have a couple of clips that kind of developed this, but I want you to play what you're playing. No, no, no. I'm tossing to you. Back to you.

Oh, okay. Let's start with the... We used to do this on the show. I stopped doing it, but I'm going to do it again, at least for this show. This is the rundown. This is the complete... It's a two-minute clip, and you don't have to watch the news. I've said this before. You just watch the rundown, and they give you everything you need to know about today's news. And this is from yesterday's ABC News. Tonight, several developing stories as we come on the air.

Violent protests as ICE agents take migrants into custody. More than 40 million Americans on alert for severe storms, and Coco Gauff makes history at the French Open. First, the news clashes over ICE arrests. Protests erupting from California to New York as the Trump administration ramps up its immigration crackdown. And Kilmar Abrego-Garcia, now back in the U.S., two months after he was mistakenly, mistakenly, mistakenly deported to El Salvador.

The charges he's now facing stemming from this 2022 traffic stop, according to DHS, and why a top prosecutor abruptly resigned over the case. Dangerous weather impacting millions from the heartland to the East Coast. Severe storms firing up with damaging winds and potential flash floods. Texas and parts of Arkansas already hit hard. Our weather team timing it out. Coco's comeback. Coco Gauff becomes the first American woman in a decade to win the French Open.

Just 21 years old, how she came roaring back to beat the top seed in three grueling sets. They say they've captured the alleged ringleader in a series of high-end burglaries that targets pro athletes. Authorities say hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of items stolen. How police say the suspect's car led to his arrest. Our ABC News exclusive. Martha Raddatz in Ukraine with President Zelensky. The Ukrainian leader telling Martha that Russia does not want to stop the war.

The search for a former army soldier wanted in the deaths of his three little girls. Dangerous and possibly armed. Washington State telling people to lock their doors. Urgent recall impacting more than a million eggs in multiple states. Potentially linked to salmonella. Travelers why the FAA is cutting the number of daily flights. You're going to crash. One of America's busiest airports. And the wildly popular Eagle Cam revealing a major development. Is Gizmo the Eaglet ready to take flight?

We're all going to die. Yeah. I'm tired. I'm tired from just hearing that. Yeah. I know. It's pretty fatiguing. But mistakenly, this mistakenly. Mistakenly. Everybody's using it. Mistakenly. It was a mistake. Wow. They are so dumb. Nobody ever said it was a mistake. Except one guy in the administration. He was one of the lawyers from one of the federal lawyers. Yeah. I think we had a clip of that where he went. He said it. And it was like, oh, no. Bono. Oh, I didn't mean to say that.

Oops. And now everyone's picked it up. Yeah. So to go from there to the NPR report on this. Yeah. NPR. Yeah. This ICE raids. This must be just full of gems. Well, it's pretty short. So it's not full of too many gems. But it's got the right kind of attitude. It's when we get to the NPR analysis, which are the Dems view. But this play ICE raids. This is ICE raids SoCal. ICE raids SoCal. NPR. In Southern California for a second straight day.

There are major actions by federal law enforcement going after people in the country illegally. Steve Futterman has more. This is, you know, just clipping today. All of the terms that the news media is using. I mean, people who are. How about illegal immigrants? Anything but what you just said, NPR. Law enforcement going after people in the country illegally. Steve Futterman has more. Agents moved in at another Home Depot. Some of their focus was on day laborers.

Wow. That's like shooting fish in a barrel. Let's go to Home Depot. See if we can find any illegals. Oh, please. Wow. OK. That's exactly the right analogy. How much work are you going to put in today? I don't know. Let's just go to the Home Depot and pick up a few guys. Pick some guys up. Exactly. You know what it is? The Californians are pissed because these are the people who are rebuilding their homes. And they have to get cheap labor because the permits cost 50 grand. That's what's going on.

If you can get a permit, do you know? Yes, I do. Thousands and thousands of homes burnt to the ground. The total number of permits, what is it? Yeah, I think it's like 70 or something. No, 55. Yeah, yeah. No, I actually have a clip somewhere of it. Yeah, no, exactly. It's a joke. And those 55 cost tens of thousands of dollars. So, yeah, you want to go get your labor at Home Depot. Steve Futterman has more. Agents moved in at another Home Depot.

Some of their focus was on day laborers who often gather outside the store looking for work. As word spread on social media of the raid, protesters showed up. There were some confrontations. Objects were thrown at a U.S. Marshals bus carrying some of those detained. Agents responded with flashbangs and tear gas. One of the protesters, Maya Malika, blames President Trump. What we're facing right now is Trump's armed Gestapo. Because this is the future.

We're just seeing a glimpse of the future that Trump wants to implement. The acting director of ICE, Todd Lyons, is defending the actions here, claiming that some of the people arrested included dangerous criminals. That lady, she was on all the European reports. She is the, I think, director of a nonprofit for immigrants' rights. So, she was everywhere. So, I'm surprised that NPR didn't pick up someone else for that. I guess she was the only one. Why bother?

You know, there's the easy way or the hard way. It's the easy way. Did they talk to anyone at Home Depot? Any of the, like a manager? They can't speak English. No, they didn't talk to anyone. No, no, no. You know, Lowe's doesn't allow that. Yeah. Lowe's shoes them off. No. Shoes them off. Go, go, get out. Go away. No, Home Depot, we have one around here. It's during the, in the heyday era, I think it was like a few number of years back. Yeah. That place was, there was a thousand guys out there.

Yeah, yeah. You had to find one guy. You had to, you could find, if you wanted to get some work done, you'd find one guy who spoke really good English, and he could organize a crew for you. Yeah. You do good work. You sound like you speak from experience. I'm just saying, this is process. Something you can always do if you need a clean up or something. Okay. Cheap. On the cheap. You know, there are plenty of people here in Fredericksburg who are here, born here, who are happy to do it cheap.

They clean up. They won't come into California, is my understanding. No, no. Of course not. They don't want to live there. So NPR decides they're going to bring, they're going to bring that bonehead from Connecticut, the guy who went to have a margarita with Brego Garcia back on the show. That guy. That guy. Oh, he's perfect. He's the perfect guy. Fantastic.

So he can come in and play his, oh, well, you know, all we care about is process and all we, you know, this is what the Democrats are always accused of. They're more into process than anything. And, you know, they got to, you got to follow the rules and this is all we cared about. We don't know if he's guilty or not. Doesn't matter. And blah, blah, blah. But here we go. This is a four-parter is quite entertaining.

Kilmar Abrego Garcia, who has been at the center of an intense political and legal fight since he was mistakenly mistakenly mistakenly mistakenly deported to El Salvador in March is back in the United States. For months, the Trump administration resisted a Supreme court order to quote, facilitate his return. Now Abrego Garcia is back, but in a Tennessee prison, he's been charged with conspiracy to transport migrants in the U.S. without legal status from Texas across the country.

That's according to the federal indictment unsealed Friday. Senator Chris Van Hollen played a leading role in the push to return Abrego Garcia to the U.S. The Democrat represents Maryland where Abrego Garcia Garcia was living with his family before he was deported. Senator Van Hollen joins us now. Scott. Good to be with you. What is your reaction to this news? He's been returned to the U.S. is in federal prison. This is. Wow. Did you hear that?

That was an interview that was done a whole different time, a whole different sound, a whole different timbre of voice. That was interesting. Where Abrego Garcia Garcia was living with his family before he was deported. Senator Van Hollen joins us now. Scott. Good to be with you. What is your reaction to this news? He's been returned to the U.S. is in federal prison. This is a victory for the rule of law and due process.

As you just said, the Trump administration for months said he would never set foot on U.S. soil again. They thumbed their nose at a nine to zero Supreme Court decision. I have repeatedly said that this is not about the man, Abrego Garcia. It's about his constitutional rights to do process and that if you trample over his rights, you threaten the rights of everybody who lives in the United States. So finally, his case is back in court where it should have been all along.

And he will have an opportunity with his lawyers who he's not had any communication with to defend himself against these new charges. I have a question. So far, this is the, by the way, have you chewing gum? Everyone has to have gum. If you chewing gum, you chewing gum, Billy, give everybody a piece of the gum or get the gum out of your mouth. That's the Democrats. Um, is there anyone else that, that, uh, this guy from Connecticut or any other representative or Senator has gone to bat for that?

They were swept up and disappeared illegally. Is there any other example that we've heard of, or is it just the news media telling us that I don't know of any other examples. They have talked about the, the gay hairdresser, but that kind of got pushed aside because I don't think the gay hairdresser was true. If there truly was a gay hairdresser who got shipped off the, the, the people would lose their ever loving minds over it. If it was really true, it would be perfect. Trump hates gays.

So I'm just going to say it was never true. So it just, you know, that would be saying, you might, you're probably right. They're taking away our rights. That's well, the reason what you just said, the question you're asking the open ended question you're asking is not answerable because people are disappearing. Oh yeah. But they have family members here. They've disappeared too. Oh, okay. Okay. I got it.

Now here's the one, this one I did a little, I had to look into this cause I got sick of this. ABC said the same thing as you're about to hear in clip two. Okay. Have you been able to talk to him or his legal team? I have not spoken to him directly. I have spoken to his wife, Jennifer. What was her response to all of this? Well, she's relieved to have him back on us soil. Wait a minute. The wife who he beat is relieved to have him back on us. Bull crap. That's interesting.

She's finally had a chance to talk to him briefly, which she was unable to do since he was first taken off the streets in Maryland and shipped to El Salvador. And of course, you know, she's working with the lawyers as to the next steps. You said before, this isn't about him. It's about the rule of law. It's about the process. What is your response to this indictment and the details in the indictment allegations that he transported undocumented immigrants across the country illegally?

Well, my response is what it's been all along, which is that the Trump administration needs to put up or shut up in court. So for months, they made allegations over social media, which they had not made before the federal district court judge in Maryland judges in us, they'd made these claims with respect to MS 13. She said that they had put forward no evidence. My point all along is this needs to be dealt with in a court of law. That's where we convict the guilty.

It's also where people who are charged have their due process rights respect. So what's interesting in all this is many, if not the most targeted are people who have already been through that process and have just been let go. Yeah. So the court of law thing has already happened. It's exactly what you said. Would you think the NPR guy is going to ask that? Well, no, because otherwise all my hairdressers clients will go crazy.

Okay. This is the clip that's got the WTF moment, which I have to discuss. I mean, there has been critical. Well, is, am I playing three NPR or three WTF? Oh, what? Well, I have two clips here, two different lengths. I have Dems view on Albrego. Oh, no, it's gotta be three WTF. That's our three NPR. It's gotta be clip four. I like the guy's new name.

Darcia as a great, I mean, there has been criticism from some camps about the amount of detail on the 10 page indictment about the fact that most of this material comes from unnamed sources. Do you share that concern? Or again, is to you the top line. This is now the formal process that should have happened from the beginning. The top line is that this is the formal process and it should have been in court from the beginning.

I think the issues you just mentioned will of course be a subject of debate and litigation in the court. We also know that one of the members of the U S attorney's office, uh, in Tennessee resigned reportedly in protest, uh, about how these charges are being brought now. He resigned in protest reportedly in protest. Where did that reporting come from? That he, they resigned in protest. He has never said he resigned in protest. His resignation is on LinkedIn. I've read it.

He quit the day that they indicted, uh, a Brego Garcia, uh, ABC, it traces back to ABC claims that he, he, he resigned in protest. So I looked up and we have it in the show notes. Cause I sent you a, a link to an article in Tennessee from a local newspaper where it's suspected because there's a Brego Garcia situation took place in 2022, three years ago with it, with the smuggling of, of all this nine people in the car.

Uh, it's, it's believed that the prosecutor knows about some hanky panky that was going on that allowed this illegality to continue. He quit to get out of the way. So he doesn't get caught up in what appears to be an upcoming mess. Ah, that's interesting. He didn't quit in any protests and they can't, no one has gotten a quote from him saying he quit in protest. Nobody, ABC made it up. Hmm. Uh, Oh, I'm not surprised. And of course this joker from this Connecticut dude.

So he, or Maryland, wherever he's from, Connecticut, the Congressman. Oh yeah. He, he of course goes with it. He says it right there on the, on the report, uh, as if the guy quit in protest, because this is, this does match the, there were people, if you recall, like, uh, I don't know, six to nine, just right after Trump got into a bunch of, uh, uh, federal prosecutors that quit in protest because they were all short timers and they were part time.

One of them was only there for a month and she quit if you recall. Uh, and so now you can always use the quit in protest, uh, trope meme, uh, to make it sound like something actually happened when it didn't cause somebody made it up. Okay. So I had to get that off my chest, but it's in the show notes. You know, it's interesting. Last night, uh, CNN broadcast worldwide. First time ever exclusive, never been done before. Uh, with 20 cameras live from Broadway, right?

Yeah. There was some outrageous number of cameras, 20 cameras. George, can you imagine being the director? I, I have to say production wise dynamite. I watched the whole thing because I'm a big fan of, uh, of, of the history. Yeah. Yeah. No, I'm a big fan of the great wide wise. Yeah. And there's no coincidence that the Tony's are coming up. Yes. The Choney's. Yes, of course. And I think Clooney is nominated. So it's George Clooney, actually a bunch of dynamite actors.

Um, and they did, they really did a good job. Lighting was good. It had a, it's about Edward E. Murrow. And it's basically the movie. It's basically the movie. Yeah. Um, but it was very well done. And I, when I'm looking at it, I'm like, wow, this is pretty good. a lot of smoking on stage, which of course was back in the day was, uh, was true. What was the name of this product? Good night and good luck. Right. Which is the movie name of the movie. It was a good movie.

Well, the play was good, but at the very end, you know, Edward E. Murrow did this famous speech at some, but I don't know what it was at the, you know, basically, uh, you know, a democracy. If you can, uh, a Republic, if you can keep it type speech. And so Clooney's up there at the very end. And it's the setting, this scene of him speaking to this large congregation of people about, you know, how we can use this medium for good or for bad.

And then it goes, and then it goes into this montage going all the way. So, so it starts off like, you know, first man on the moon and the Kennedy assassination. And then as it speeds up, it moves all the way up through, you know, Fox news about COVID election deniers, January six rigged election. It was what? Yeah. Oh yeah. None of it was, none of that wasn't in the movie. No, of course not. And then the crowd went wild at the end.

Of course, you have the bunch of, uh, elitist, uh, lefties in the audience. Yeah. They can spend the $9,200 for it. Oh, more than that. I'm sure for this televised version. And it was every, it was, I was so happy. I'm like, this is really good. You know, like the, I've kind of like Clooney in general as an actor for some of the roles he plays, but then that came, I'm like, what you just, you just basically left me with a taste of vomit in my mouth.

Like that's all you could pick from all the nonsense, all of the garbage that we've been dealing with since we've been doing this show, all of them, like right up until now, what you just said is making stuff up. And I was like, Oh man, that's just too bad. It's too bad. I tell you. So listen to some of the terms the foreign media is using about president Trump, sweeping, sweeping up people. Before you do that, you might as well wrap this, my clips up. I'm sorry. I didn't know you had any more.

Well, the three, the one I said was four. Oh, it's four. I got it. Finally, you know, we're able to, he's able to, uh, and his family's able to litigate these in a court of law rather than unable to communicate from a, essentially what is a, a terrible prison and notorious prison in El Salvador that he was first taken to. Senator, I want to ask you this.

If all of this ends several steps down the line with a Brego Garcia, guilty in federal court and eventually deported to you, is that still a win for the rule of law and the constitution? The answer is yes. I will be satisfied. So long as the rule of law applies, so long as there's no abuse of process. And again, the overriding issue here is adherence to the constitution of the United States.

This is not the only case where president Trump and his administration are flouting the constitution and due process. But my bottom line has been in remains adherence to the constitution of the United States, because if you put it at risk for one person, you do jeopardize those rights for everybody. Well, he's not wrong about that, but I don't know if this is not, but he's wrong.

I don't know if this is the right case because it's going to look, it's going to be a lot of egg on people's faces when it turns out that this guy was. Yes. I think that's what he's been doing. I think this entire clip that I played is damage control. Yes. Oh, you think it's damage control. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Good point. It's preemptive damage control. And I think he did a pretty good job of that.

If you don't realize that he lied about the, you know, the guy who quit and protests and all the rest of it. And he soft peddled the whole thing. And now he's promoting. It's not about any, he prefaced the whole thing saying it's not about the man. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. Okay. It's about the process. Yeah. Good catch. Good catch. Well, so instead of playing you the European clips and the verbiage they use, um, about, um, uh, the immigration, you know, it is, it's not pride month.

It's world pride month. I hope you've noticed this. When did that happen? By the way? Well, they did a rebranding. When did that happen? I'm asking this year, this year, this year was the first year of world pride month. I believe so. Yes, I believe so. Well, they slipped that one bias. And of course, you know, just, just by calling it pride is by itself. It's just, it's, it's, it's a sin to be prideful, but that's just me. So here's France 24 and listen to what they're saying.

President Trump is doing to the LGBTQ plus community, which really is only about the teas because it's very, very small. And, uh, I have noticed that most of the world pride month stuff is, is they do have some of the crazy flags, but they have mostly trans flags. Yes. Kamala is for day. Damn. President Trump is for you from campaign ads, targeting the transgender community to executive orders, banning them from military service.

So targeting, no, that campaign ad was targeting, uh, the, the Republican base of Donald Trump. It wasn't targeted. Do you mean like they were shooting at them? It wasn't targeting them. It was actually targeting the base. He wanted to vote for them. So no, that's incorrect. From campaign ads, targeting the transgender community to executive orders, banning them from military service. Trump has ramped up his attacks, attacks, attacks, attacks. No, it's not an attack.

When he had one proclamation about men or men and women, where's the rest of these tags? It's plural. She is. That was plural. Oh, there's many more attacks. Trump has ramped up his attacks against the LGBTQ community, going as far as erasing any mention of them on the white house and several government agency websites. Erasing. This is another important term erasing because somehow the, the, uh, the narrative has become Trump wants to erase. I can hear your wind chimes going crazy, by the way.

Oh, that's my dog. I'm sorry. It's not me. It's the dog. Hey Bubba. It's okay. What are you doing? She's itchy. The dog has wind chimes. Yes. The dog, what are you doing? You're torturing the animal. Can you imagine what it sounds like to a dog? It's her collar. Um, the, the, the narrative is Trump wants to erase us erase. And that with us, that means trans. It's not about lesbians and gays. It's about trans for the organizers of world pride.

The campaign has only increased the celebrations importance through world pride and all the prides that are going to take place, not just here in the United States, but around the world. Uh, this is the year that we need to ensure that we remain visible and seen. So, so folks know, was there an invisibility problem that we're not recognizing when they got flags everywhere? You go, I'm telling you, this is the whole, we're being erased, which is just not zero evidence of this.

No, there's no evidence of it emphasized. There's yes, exactly. There's no evidence of them being erased. It's just the narrative. this is the year that we need to ensure that we remain visible and seen. So, so folks know that there's a place for them, that there are people fighting for them for the LGBTQ community. Resistance to Trump's policies is key. Within the U S a group of transgender soldiers are challenging the executive order, banning them in the military in court abroad.

Some are making the difficult decision to skip the celebration altogether to avoid problems at the border. So they, somehow they think they're going to have problems at the border coming into the United States because they're trans. And yes, there I've seen a bunch of tick tock clips on this and this, the, uh, they're holding up their passport and it's the M and they, they, they identify as a girl and they look like a girl. They got the, except for the voice.

And, uh, they feel that this is going to get them thrown in jail or shot. I don't know what, what they're thinking. Meanwhile, others privilege showing up. Visibility is resistance. When you say that we no longer exist and then we show up in hundreds of thousands of numbers, then it defies this narrative that you have, that we don't exist. This is, this is it. We don't exist. Yes, you do. Everyone recognizes it.

You know, the funny thing is there's this, uh, this trans woman, Lynn Alden, Lynn Alden. And Lynn Alden is a, uh, an economist and, uh, and talks a lot about Bitcoin and Bitcoin conferences. And I had actually asked him when he, Hey, is that, is that, is Lynn Alden trans? Yeah, it's trans. Nobody cares because Lynn Alden is just acts like a human being. Just no one cares. But when you, when you just talk about him being erased and no one wants, you know, Lynn Alden is not erased.

Lynn Alden is one of the most visible faces in all of Bitcoin. It's like, why don't you just act like a human being and a member of society and then, uh, there's no problem. Anyway, now we have the orchestra. This, this is great. At a patriotic concert before world pride festivities in Washington, DC, legendary drag queen, Peaches Christ, paraphrase famous American writer, Mark Twain.

Patriotism means, I'll get this right, loving your country all of the time and your government when it deserves it. The international pride orchestra had originally been in talks to play the Kennedy center, the most prestigious venue in the United States. But those plans were dashed after president Donald Trump, the ashes dashed. They were dashed. They were dashed. So, uh, June 14th is no King's day. I thought it was no teeth. No. Isn't that 18th? Isn't that June 18th? Oh, okay.

It's on a Thursday. It's a show day. Oh, good. Well, it's no King's day. No King's day. By the way, I do have a world pride day clip. I just noticed. So don't, don't let me forget. No King's day is a nationwide day of defiance from city blocks to small towns, from courthouse steps to community parks or no Kings is referring to Trump. Yes. We're taking action to reject authoritarianism and show the world what democracy really looks like. No, this is what democracy looks like.

No kings.org is the website. And of course, uh, can't really find who's behind all of this. Uh, uh, possibly it's, uh, organized by an outfit called a 50 51, uh, 50. So five zero, which refers to a nut ball. Now that's 51 50. Oh, five zero five zero one. I haven't quite figured that one out yet. It's an upside down. It's first and foremost, the movement of, by and for the people, we are not nationally incorporated and have no plans to change that.

Uh, but they do have, um, a lot of, uh, groups that, um, that work with them. Uh, no voice unheard build the resistance. Uh, there's a lot of, it's all socialist by the way, build the resistance with a socialist fist. Um, I can't really find out, you know, it, it, it seems like there's a bigger organization behind this. Uh, but we can, I'm sure there is. It has to be. Yeah. We can lose paying the bills. So if you look at, um, the, uh, see a boot, we already got the boot page.

They have the partners, partners, partners. If you can find one person, you can find associations. So, uh, three 50.org. Yeah. Uh, education, healthcare, public services, American humanists association. Three 50. Isn't three 50. That parts per million group of climate change. Yes. Yes. ACLU, the ACLU. There they are. Uh, bend the arc Jewish action. Black voters matter. Climate Hawks, climate defenders, communications workers of America, common defense. I mean, there's a huge page here.

Families over billionaires. Federal unionist network, federal workers against doge human rights campaign. I mean, it's just, it's, but there's a lot of organizations, big and small. So anyway, just, yeah, you have to wonder if they're all there, uh, on purpose. If there's some of them aren't never agreed to this, there's always that possibility. Cause there's so many of these things, very possible. You don't know.

You'd have to go try to track down someone at, uh, one of these operations and say, would you guys subscribe to this thing? How much money did you give him? Cause guy has to be on the mailing list. All right. What's your, um, world pride clip. Well, it's a little pride little thing. We just got a little punchline. I thought it was funny. He is hosting world pride celebrations, a high profile series of events, highlighting LGBTQ rights.

This year's world pride comes at a time when the Trump administration has targeted LGBTQ groups and people in a wide range of targeted. They're targeted. Targeted. This is NPR. Targeted. Targeted. It's targeting. It's just, these are these words. This year's world pride comes at a time when the Trump administration has targeted LGBTQ groups and people in a wide range of ways from barring. By the way, I don't think it's been outlawed for gays or lesbians to be in the military. Has it?

No, I don't think so. No, I think it's, that's okay. Costly trans. You got to have drugs and to keep you trans. It costs a lot of money. What's the taxpayers money? Costly trans. Oh man. In a wide range of ways, from barring transgender service members from the armed forces to stripping gay rights pioneer, Harvey Milk's name from a Navy ship. So listen to the targeting. What are the grievances, the targeting? Is he killing them? Is he disappearing them?

Is he erasing them from the, from the voter rolls? Is he erasing them from the face of the earth? No, the issues are. In a wide range of ways. A wide range of ways. This is it. Pay attention. Here are the issues. Barring transgender service members from the armed forces to stripping gay rights pioneer, Harvey Milk's name from a Navy ship. We took a name off a ship. This is an outrage. NPR's Alana Wise was on the scene ahead of today's big pride parade and joins us and a heads up.

You'll hear sirens in this piece. Oh, heads up. We don't want you to be triggered by sirens. Hey Alana. What was the energy like on the streets right now? Yeah. As you mentioned, this is the first year that DC is actually hosting world pride, but it's also DC's 50th anniversary, hosting its own pride celebrations and people seemed really ready to celebrate that. But you know, more than a big party pride is also a call to action for the LGBTQ community to fight for their rights.

I happen to speak with someone named Kyla Mahaney from Virginia about why pride is so important. We got to be able to celebrate and be, and be seen because otherwise we will be disappeared. Oh, there you go. You'll be disappeared. No, no, this is, this is, and you're going to be disappeared at them. Get with it. People are going to, she said, so you heard her. Yeah. Now I just as a kicker, if you want an extra little clip here, I have it. This is the yacht clip, which should say talk. I'm sorry.

Is a bull die. Oh yes. This is the one with the, with the kid in the, in the, in the mall. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good question. I was misgendered yesterday. Well, explain what she looks like. Just so, just so she's, well, if you don't know what a bull dyke looks like, she's got a really short haircut. She's mean looking, but she's pleasant at the same time. She is. I mean, I can know the way to describe it, but she's a lesbian, a harsh, harsh looking.

I'm it's like, but if you saw her, she's basically very Bush. And she would, if you saw her, you'd say, there's a lesbian. By the way, if, if she didn't cut her hair crop so short, she'd actually be quite, you know, attractive as a woman. Wouldn't you say? I mean, I saw this clip, so. Oh, wait, sorry. This is two times. We only get two of these a show. Okay. Sorry. But you do know the, the interface just crapped out again. Oh yeah. Did you hear what I said? Yeah, I heard everything.

Okay. Well, response. I said, if she, if she didn't have her hair all chopped up. Oh, you didn't hear what I said. No, no, no, I didn't hear what you said. Oh, I said she, if you saw her on the street, you'd say, there's a lesbian. Right. But I said, if she didn't crop her hair all choppy, she would be quite attractive as a woman. I think she could.

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you think CrossFit, you probably think alt-right, or not at least alt-right, but people who are conservative, because over the last, I'd say, seven years, there's been this shift where we are aligning fitness, and especially things like weightlifting and CrossFit in particular, with the right. It slipped into that pipeline.

Years ago, if you used essential oils, or you made your own bread, or you had chickens, people didn't make assumptions about you wanting to be a trad wife who doesn't vaccinate.

That used to just be its own thing, similarly to how in the 80s or 90s, homeschooling wasn't owned really by one predominant religious group, and one predominant type of person, and now homeschooling itself has shifted to where if you're not homeschooling in that way, you have to actually differentiate that, and you have to say, we're part of XYZ homeschooling. There's different brandings now of homeschooling, but now there's this association of CrossFit is MAGA, homeschooling is MAGA.

Wanting to have chickens and my own eggs should not be a red flag of a political alignment. Just let me want my own chickens, please. Yeah, just killing people with this nonsense. Yeah, it is. It's true, and I could not believe it. If you're a Democrat, you can't have a chicken. You're MAGA, you're MAGA.

Not to change the subject, and you can get right back to it, but this egg thing that just took place, the ridiculous, and people should go to the FDA, I guess it's the FDA website, and look at the number of brands that this one egg provider with salmonella laced eggs, it's everybody, the old brand, 365, they have all the packages shown there. And we're all going to die? Rallies, not necessarily, no, but what got me... They all come from one supplier?

One supplier is supplying at least 20 brands of eggs, which seems to me, why don't they just have their own damn brand? There's none of their brand. So you're ruining the reputation of all these companies, including, oh, the organic operation that runs out of Whole Foods, oh, 365, whatever it is, that's one of them, New Laid, which I always thought was just a big egg producer. Wait a minute, wait a minute. So even the so-called organic eggs all come from the same chicken poop farm?

Yeah. Nah. You know how I got my eggs this morning? Mike, Mike comes up... That's what you're supposed to do, you're supposed to get it, I get eggs from Jay. Well, Mike came up to me in church, he says, hey, I put two carton of eggs under your car, don't drive over them. That's how I get my eggs. Well, hopefully you remembered. Yes, I told Tina, otherwise I might have forgotten. But yeah, that's how you get your eggs around here. You know why? Mike's got too many eggs. He does, obviously.

He's got way too many eggs. He's given you two whole cartons. Yeah, and the only thing he says, can you give me the cartons back? That's all he wants. Yes, all the egg guys, this is true of all guys who give eggs away or even sell eggs out of their backyard. They need those cartons. So above all miracles, what took place, even for Fox News, where this is from, all of a sudden, raw milk is good for you.

So after years of being one-upped by plant-based alternatives like oat milk and cashew cream, real dairy products, especially raw milk, are having a comeback. They're having a moment. So talk to us about raw milk, because Nicole, it's not easy to get raw milk. Me and Charlie talk about it a lot. It's easier to get meth than raw milk. This is a good point. In America, it's easier to get meth than raw milk. That's a great line. That's a very good line. Talk about it a lot.

It's easier to get meth than raw milk. He said that his dealer got arrested, his raw milk dealer. The reason people started to go away from animal dairy, you know, cows milk, sheep's milk, goat milk, is because there were some studies a couple of decades ago saying, you know what, there's high fats and there's high cholesterol potentially in these animal-based dairy products.

Well, most of that research has essentially been determined to be obsolete, and in fact, animal -based dairy is the best for you, high in nutrients. Those proteins are complete. It's incredibly good for you, great for your bone, your skin, your entire body. So like children have always had whole milk. Now what you're talking about is raw milk. So you know, when you just go to the grocery store, that's not raw milk.

That's animal dairy, which is great for you, but there are concerns with that in terms of hormones, antibiotics, and some of the other things that come along with it. The reason you have a hard time getting raw milk, Rachel, is because it's illegal in like about 20 of our states, and you can't even sell it across state lines.

And the reason that it's become illegal is because the government has stepped in, because there are some concerns with raw milk in terms of certain bacteria like E. coli, campylobacter, and some others. But the reality is, there are safe ways to have raw milk, raw dairy. It's just a matter of where you get it from, just like everything else. Nutsap is on the outs. You know, most of the cheese in Europe is made with raw milk. Yes, of course.

And most of the cheese in the United States is made with pasteurized milk. It's extremely rare to find raw milk cheese made in the United States. And the cheese in Europe is better. Now stay with me, because now we're going to go from raw milk to Operation Stork Speed. Have you heard of Operation Stork Speed? Stork like in the baby carrier? That's the one. Wait, let me do it. No, I have not. Operation Stork Speed!

Welcome back, Democrats on Capitol Hill, pushing back on HHS Secretary RFK Jr.'s Operation Stork Speed. The FDA wants- Hold on a second. Stop, stop, stop. Where did you get this clip? Fox. It's funny, they said, welcome back, Democrats. I know what she's supposed to have said, she should have had a two-beat pause, but she didn't. No, actually, she had the pause. That's the problem. She said, welcome back, Democrats. And then, yeah, she had the pause in the wrong spot, because you know why?

She's a news model reading it from the prompter. Welcome back, Democrats. Welcome back, Democrats. Scroll up. Welcome back, Democrats, on Capitol Hill, pushing- Welcome back, Democrats, on Capitol Hill. Welcome back, Democrats, on Capitol Hill, pushing back on HHS Secretary RFK Jr.'s Operation- Literally, she didn't have time to preview the script, because I'm sure she was doing her hair, you know, or whatever, and couldn't- I don't blame her. I blame the script writer. I hate to say it.

I blame the teleprompter operator. The teleprompter operator should have put a comma or a new line- The teleprompter operator doesn't write the copy. They just move the copy. Very few- I don't know any teleprompter operators that actually wrote teleprompter copy. They will edit and format all the time. These days. Not the old school days, because it was just paper on a conveyor belt with a camera above it.

A good teleprompter operator will see this- Well, somebody fucked up, and I don't blame the reader at all. She's supposed to read what's put in front of her, and she did. Welcome back, Democrats. No agenda. Welcome back, Democrats, on Capitol Hill, pushing back on HHS Secretary RFK Jr.'s Operation Stork Speed. The FDA is launching the first review of baby formula ingredients in three decades. They're aiming for more testing for heavy metals and contaminants, clearer labeling on formula.

20-plus Democratic lawmakers now are telling RFK Jr. he is essentially killing his own project's chances. They say the decision to lay off 20 ,000 HHS employees and 3,500 FDA employees, including those who oversaw health and safety research of infant formula, sets this operation up to fail. Here to respond to that is the FDA commissioner, Dr. Marty McCary. Doctor, thanks for being with us today. Great to have you. Perfect voice on this issue. What's your response to that criticism from Dems?

Well, for the last 26 years, we've seen really no innovation in baby formula. So the current system is not working. The FDA doubled the number of employees here at the agency since 2007 to today. So doubling the number of employees has not fixed the baby formula problem. The problem is that the government issues a recipe, and companies must follow that recipe to get baby formula out on the market. And so for 26 years, we've seen essentially very few innovative products, almost no changes.

Moms want baby formula without seed oil, without corn syrup, without added sugar, without arsenic and lead and other heavy metals. And so we convened a group of experts to figure out how we get this right and how we modernize the way we approve baby formula in the United States. All right. So here is, and I have two more short clips on this because I didn't know that it contains seed oils and arsenic and fructose corn syrup. The exit strategy out of this is going back to boobs.

What happened to that? What was wrong with breast milk? I'm asking you a question. Well, I think they're assuming that, I mean, I'm assuming that most mothers breastfeed. Oh, I think you're wrong. And then they have breast pumps to get the excessive milk. And then they put that, and that's what they use for the beer in a bottle. Yeah, I don't think so. I'm quite confident that the baby formula lobby has psyoped everybody into believing you just need baby formula. I'm not so sure.

I mean, the last time I saw a woman breastfeeding was at a No Agenda meetup. You see a lot of breastfeeding in the San Francisco Bay Area, and that would be the place you'd think there would be, you know, I mean, I don't know. There should be a survey done. If a woman can breastfeed, there's absolutely no reason that you would ever use baby formula. It's not going to be as good as ever. Now, Tina is texting me, and I was going to say this. She says some women can't breastfeed.

They have issues with attaching or producing enough milk. Now, I'm not a woman. You say you had twins, or maybe you had triplets. You're not going to be able to handle it. In agreement. But to me, it sounds like the majority is using formula. I don't think so. Well, you know what? Neither of us really know. No, we don't know. Neither one of us actually know. But I do know. I wouldn't have assumed what you assume. I would have assumed the opposite. So somebody, we have to get some stats.

We need an expert. We need stats. Call the Archduke of Luna. Yeah, the Archduke of Luna, lover of American, lover of boobs. He would be the clearing house. Yes. Darling, do you want to come in and be the expert? She's blowing up my phone. Look, I'm not right. Okay. There you go. The expert speaks. I'm not right. Well, that would mean I'm right. Yeah, you're right, I guess. What was that again? You're right, I guess. I guess. Okay. You are right. You're correct. Sir. So what did we do?

Sir, you are right, sir. What did we do before baby formula? Did the children just die of malnutrition? Yes, they just died. They just died. You gave them water. They just died? They just died. Or from what I understand, there's a lot of dark networks who trade baby milk. Mothers who have excess and they sell it or they trade it. Well, it seems to me. You know what, John? I have a theory. Okay, in a minute. You're already right, sir.

No, but I was just going to say, if you go back in time before baby formula, which is obviously a mishmash of stuff, why wouldn't you just give the kid cow's milk in a bottle? Well, neither of us know. Neither of us know. But I would like to know, before formula, what happened? I mean, some people are saying wet nurses. I've heard of that. Yeah, there's that. I'm sure that you can. Now, here you go. Tina, who should just get on the mic, actually, is telling me that Saddle Tramp.

Do you remember Saddle Tramp? Saddle Tramp listens to the show. Yeah, you do. She's a producer. Saddle Tramp, she could not produce or could not attach or whatever, and she made her own formula with raw milk. So there's playing into your theory. I would just like to know, if these are new issues, what happened? Why can women no longer provide their milk? You know, so just tell me what happened back on the prairie, Little House on the Prairie. What did Laura Ingalls do? That's all I want to know.

And I will continue with the atrocity that is baby formula, which makes me want to breastfeed. I'm, like, choking as you're talking. Full disclosure, doctor, I've got a five-month -old on formula at home. I do know now a considerable number of moms who are essentially importing baby formula from European countries because it is so-called cleaner. You know, it has less preservatives, less chemicals. Is that a good thing to be doing right now?

Well, look, our process in terms of our regulation of baby formula has been frozen in time. There have been incredible advances in nutrition science. We had an expert this week at the— Do you want your children ingesting nutrition science? I don't think so. We had an expert this week at the FDA on our expert panel talk about how in primate studies, when primates are fed a certain kind of baby formula, that is, with a certain kind of seed oil, their visual acuity was worse on the eye chart.

Seed oil is blinding people. What? Seed oil is blinding people. Their visual acuity was worse on the eye chart. This is important research, so we've got to innovate, and that's what we're doing here. Okay. What about expeller seed oils? Expellers? The whole thing is out of control.

Yeah. Now, I've had this article— By the way, I'm somewhat in agreement with you because I think that women of the world, but in America mostly because we're suckers, have been sold a bill of goods on this idea of formula instead of natural breastfeeding.

I know what you're thinking, even though I got you to agree with me, but I know exactly what you're thinking because there's been a movie, a propagandistic promotion by Nestle and others who make the formulas to tell moms, no, no, no, no, this is better because it's formulated. That's why it's called a formula. Get it? Yeah. No, I'm with you. I'm with you. That's all I want to know is before formula—in 1849, go west, young man and lady and family. What would they do?

If they could not produce breast milk, could they? Was it always, hey, no problem, I got it? Would they have attachment problems? Did they not have those problems? What caused those problems? This is what Operation Stork should do for me. I want to know more about—like they had no problem. Well, raw milk is great from a cow, but now you need innovation in baby formula. So Marty here, Dr. Marty, he seems more like he's working on behalf of big food than on behalf of the American people.

If he's on TV, of course. Yeah. So I've had this article for the past three shows. No one has done a news report on it, which is bothersome. Ah, you couldn't find a clip. No, exactly. I've got a bunch of those backed up, too. It's like, where's the clip? Where's the media? Why isn't this being covered where somebody's actually saying something? Yeah, and so I've been reluctant to talk about this because I don't like spiking the ball unnecessarily.

And it's not exactly spiking the ball, but it finally— It's not spiking the ball. No, not yet. But it showed up in the New York Post, so that means eventually Fox News will do a story on it. This is about Ozempic. Many male Ozempic users are saying since they started injecting the weight loss shot, their penises have grown. Some say up to one inch. Oh, brother. This is like—well, yeah, if you've got a big fat gut and you shrink, everything's going to look bigger. That doesn't get affected.

Well, I don't know. I don't know. This might be something that maybe you should experiment with. Yeah, I don't think so. I still want to be able to walk, you know? No, that's not the line. The line is big enough. Well, I did it in my own way. You just didn't like my punchline. Yeah, it wasn't as good. You didn't like my punchline. Okay, now I would just like to for a moment—oh, by the way, no, I have one more Big Pharma clip here.

When we're talking about new pandemics and, you know, the COVID, we've got the M-Beta 8128.111 beta pre-release. You know, just as an aside, my favorite—I don't have a clip, but it's all over the place. Every newsletter, McCullough—by the way, I'm sick and tired of McCullough and Pinsky going on TV selling crap. Yeah, it's a little bothersome, isn't it? It's very bothersome, these guys. And then they have their websites and they're selling crap, overpriced ivermectin.

Very, very expensive—yeah, overpriced ivermectin. Overpriced everything. You can get it elsewhere cheaper. Yeah, I agree. But the latest thing floating around—next means horrible death. And next spike. The new Moderna vaccine means next means horrible in Latin. It means horrible death in Latin. Oh, interesting. Have you seen these? No, I haven't seen that yet, no. Oh, you will.

But the funny thing is, if you do a Latin translation, I mean, if you wanted to have more fun, next does mean death in Latin. Spell that next, N-E-X. N-E-X. Yeah, next. Nobody said anything about Nexium, which has been around for 30 years, but okay. So next means—but if you use next spike, which is the name of this vaccine, and you put that in the Latin generator, it means don't, which is actually funnier. Yeah, that is good.

No, the only—this just caught my eye because, like, when you're pushing this, you know, the next spike and the new pandemic and all the—then Netflix comes along and has a new documentary. Just bothered me. Native to Asia and sub-Saharan Africa, pangolins are the only mammals covered in scales. No, not the pangolin. This baby pangolin lives at Chicago's Brookfield Zoo, the only place in the U.S. where visitors can see pangolins up close.

Pangolins are also one of the world's most trafficked mammals, prized for their meat and scales, which are used in traditional medicine. Poaching and deforestation of their natural habitats have drastically reduced their population, and several pangolin species are now listed as threatened or endangered. Now a new Netflix documentary is bringing long -overdue attention to the creatures.

Pangolin Kulu's Journey follows a baby pangolin as he journeys back to the wild after being rescued from poachers. I don't know. It just doesn't sit well with me. Like, now all of a sudden the pangolin is some endangered species. I thought they were running around Asia spreading COVID all day long. I guess not. Pangolins. Okay. They are cute. So, a little bit about Elon and Trump, which you can say I'm right anytime you want because it became a huge deal during the show on Thursday.

It became the topic for at least 48 hours nonstop. Nonstop. You can say you're right, Adam, anytime. I was always in agreement with the thesis that this is bullcrap. You started off by saying it was boring and no one cares about it. No, I didn't. I'm not changing my mind about that. It is boring. My presentation was long and uninteresting to you. It was long. Okay. You said it was uninteresting. No one was talking about it.

I never said no one was talking about it because you had to introduce it. All you have to say is you're right, sir. You're right, sir. Okay, good. So, to prove that we both were correct, that this is a game, this is WWE, this is something they agreed ahead of time. The Apprentice and his phony baloney. He did it in The Apprentice. He created phony feuds. All of these, all of these things, it's all completely set. And by the way, Elon deleted his ex -post about Trump being in the Epstein files.

Oh, really? Well, that's, even if it was true and they had a real fight, that's weak. I want to interrupt, and somebody pointed this obviosity out that we should have caught too. If Trump was in the Epstein files, it would have been revealed during the election cycle. Oh, the Democrats would have used it. Instead, they had to make up Russiagate, they had to make up a Stormy Daniels, whether it was made up or not. They went after that.

Of course, these files have been with the FBI since Trump's initial, when did Epstein not kill himself or did kill himself? I don't know. We've already lost track. Yeah. Kash Patel, by the way. I'll get to that in a minute. So, Mike Johnson goes on ABC and he screws up. He screws up. He gives it away. Well, the president suggested he could cut Musk's contracts. Obviously, Musk companies rely heavily on government contracts. Can he do that? Is that something he should consider?

Is this Jonathan Karl? Yes, I think it is Jonathan Karl. Yeah, he is such a, that guy. He's your buddy. Oh, no, that's not your buddy. The other guy's your buddy. No, no, he's not my buddy. I never met him. But listen to what Johnson says. He gives it away. Heavily on government contracts. Can he do that? Is that something he should consider? Look, I'm not going to get into the strategy of what happens with all of that. I mean, what I'm trying to- The strategy?

I'm not going to get into the strategy of all of that, what happens? In what case would you say that when it's about this feud, so-called feud? That's a very interesting catch. I'm not going to get into the strategy of all that. Yeah, I wouldn't have caught that. I heard it right away. I'm like, Johnson- Yeah, the strategy, yeah. You wouldn't use that word unless there was something going on. Exactly. We rely heavily on government contracts. Can he do that? Is that something he should consider?

Look, I'm not going to get into the strategy of what happens with all of that. I mean, what I'm trying to do is make sure that all of this gets resolved quickly. That we get the one big, beautiful bill done. And that hopefully these two titans can reconcile. I think the president- Here's the other thing about that, now that you bring it up. This stuttering, when is that- This guy is not a stutterer. No, it's his tell. It's his tell. It's a total tell.

And he's stuttering like a madman because he knows something. He knows that this was set up as a strategy for whatever purpose. And he's nervous. And he's shaking like a leaf, basically. That all of this gets resolved quickly. That we get the one big, beautiful bill done. And that hopefully these two titans can reconcile. I think the president- And do you know how you can- I'm going to ask the troll room on this. And the listeners and producers in general. You know that this is phony.

When John and I have a disagreement. Just a disagreement. Sometimes it gets a little heated. We go back and forth. Not like we've never gone to bed angry. But, you know, it can get heated. It used to be really on my side. People will email, oh, don't do that. They'll be tweeting, mommy and daddy are fighting. Because they get uncomfortable by it. They feel very uncomfortable. I guarantee you no one felt uncomfortable about this. No one felt like there was an actual friendly relationship.

Good friends who've been working together. That anyone felt like this was so real. Like, oh, I feel really uncomfortable about this. I don't think anyone felt that. That's a good point. Because I don't see any evidence that anyone felt that anything was going on. Other than it being an exaggerated news story. And a back and forth. It was like a back and forth volley. Like an exhibition tennis match. And the ball is going back and forth and back and forth. And then with some end point.

I think that this is going to kind of continue as a fake feud until after the midterms. I think a lot of this has to do with the midterms. And now I'm like Mike Johnson. Here's the report about President Trump who really sticks it out there. In the explosive feud playing out in public yesterday between Trump and Musk. The world's richest man warning Trump's tariffs will cause a recession this year. It's one of the many allegations Musk made about Trump.

Including posting on X, without me Trump would have lost the election. Adding such ingratitude. Musk also calling for Trump to be impeached. And accusing Trump of being in the Jeffrey Epstein files. Musk providing no evidence to back up that claim. ABC's John Karl speaking with Trump on the phone this morning. There's been reporting out there that the White House is working to put together a call. Between Elon Musk and Donald Trump to broker some kind of peace. I asked Donald Trump about that.

He said he's not particularly interested in talking to Elon Musk. He said Elon wants to talk to him. He's not ready to talk to Musk. Who he called a man who has lost his mind. Now the little element there that I think is important is the Elon dropping the impeachment word out there. Because that has to be in play. It has to be impressed upon the Republican voters who never come out for the midterms. Who just as soon let the whole Congress slip back to the Democrats.

They have to have it in play that if the Democrats get Congress. The first thing they're going to do is impeach Trump again. Now the thing that was just disappointing. Is all of the right wing, alt-right, alternative media. All the podcasters. All are saying well this is what it was all about. You know and Ben Shapiro. Ben Shapiro says oh you know it was really because Trump wouldn't accept Elon's suggestion for NASA administrator. And there's more. Like I think Megyn Kelly.

You know it's like come on. This is stupid. The fact that Ben Shapiro is falling for this. Unless he's been read in on it. That's very possible. But I don't think so. Now that's just possible that more than one of the right wing broadcasters have been read in. And just said go along with it. We'll deal with it later. It's possible. We've been. We never get read in on anything. I should mention this. We don't get read in. We don't know anything. We are just pure analysts. We don't know nothing.

We don't know nothing. You can't put anything on us. You can't put us in a torture rack. We can't tell you anything. So this brings me to a portion of a note that I got from one of our nights. Because we've been deconstructing a little bit of the podcast. Which is how people are getting their media. Our people are getting their media. And here's an excerpt from our night's email. Which I really appreciate you said this. But I have thoughts.

It has occurred to me to wonder if moving towards including podcast content in the show might alienate listeners. In recent months, No Agenda has analyzed clips from three podcasts that I listen to. And have highly favorable thoughts about. And feel loyalty towards. One aspect of the No Agenda humor is the disparaging tone used when analyzing media. This works well for me as a listener. Because I realize what junk the M5M has become. And so I enjoy it.

It is uncomfortable to hear someone you admire and respect go after someone else you admire and respect in that tone. So this is important. Because we have always. Not that we're always right. We have always said what we think and we believe. We're not read in. We don't know nothing. We're just analyzing media because we've grown up. I literally grew up with it. And you've been in it longer than most people can remember. And we have never, never thought, oh, let's not mention this.

This might piss off our listeners. Which it has. COVID in the beginning. People were livid. COVID in the middle. People were livid about the menstrual when we looked at the numbers. That's not true. You're full of crap. You can't read. Ukraine. Right away. Right away. We said this is a sign up. Here's how it started. People in Texas were mad at me. Because people in Texas had Ukraine flags out. By the way, no longer. Good for them. Finally getting a clue.

You know, when we give our view, our opinion, our historical knowledge, and our research about Israel. No, we do not believe that Israel controls the entire U.S. government. People get pissed off. Yeah, why do people want the government to be? I mean, it's beyond me. But okay, continue. I'm sorry. Well, because people want to make sense of their world. And when things happen that they feel doesn't make sense. It's, you know, and then you've got to listen.

When you go to the podcasters who are saying this is true. And that, you know, and they respect those podcasters and we say no. It makes them feel uncomfortable. Well, let me put it to you this way. If you go through an entire No Agenda episode and you haven't felt uncomfortable once. You should probably consider going somewhere else. Because you should feel uncomfortable from time to time. But what job are we doing? That's called audience capture. Which we get accused of all the time. We do?

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, of course. How does that go? They're only saying this for the people who send them money. Saying what? For the people who send them money. Oh, they're not talking against the Jews because they get all that money. Oh, the Jews. It's always about the Jews. Not often. It's been other things in the past. Dude, I even saw a donation come in today. Here. I'm going to read it ahead. Ross Johnson. Nighting donation. I haven't donated in years because Adam hated Elon.

No, because of Adam's Elon hatred. Obviously, he's been short selling for years. Adam flips like a fish out of water. That would be the day. Adam flips like a fish out of water because of facts on X. What? Since when did I flip on Elon? I've always said the same thing. All I'm saying is, I don't believe that Elon and Palantir are all going to take over the world with their AI. Grok, like all other AI, is a piece of crap.

Unfortunately, I don't have a clip, but the story about the 700 Indians posing as AI. Yeah, I've had this story for four shows. I almost got to it two weeks ago. Microsoft invested $1.5 billion down the drain with these fakes. Yeah, it's too funny. So you'd send off, like, I want some code to do this. And the Indian, the anonymous Indian in the back, they were all coding it up. And there was not a single piece of AI was actually doing it. Yeah, exactly. Which brings me to this clip.

Calling to mind an army of robots from the sci-fi movie I, Robot, leading AI firm Anthropic's CEO, Dario Amadei, warned of a labor market bloodbath caused by artificial intelligence that could wipe out half of all entry-level white-collar jobs within five years. And there's a little bit of truth in what he's saying, but there's a lot of exaggeration, too. Teeming Silicon Valley author and AI expert Gary Marcus is skeptical.

Entry-level workers probably are the most affected, but most white-collar jobs aren't going anywhere that soon. In a memo shared by Shopify CEO Toby Lutka in April, he said before asking to increase headcount, teams must demonstrate why they can't get what they want done by AI. Businesses are using AI as an excuse because they want to cut employees, and so they use it as a cover. Mounting evidence of a phenomenon that's hard to track, of jobs quietly disappearing because of AI.

By the way, did you see that story about the 700 anonymous Indians masking as an AI company? Was that really big on CNBC? Were they really, like, all over that like hawks? Like, wow, I can't believe Microsoft got scammed on this one. I don't think so. Because they want you to buy, buy, buy, buy. If the AI bubble pops, there's going to be blood on the moon. Well, because of the amount of money and the capitalization and the rest of it. Yes. It's not going to pop anytime soon, by the way.

Well, no, because they'll obfuscate all of that. So I truly believe because of the AI hype, there will be more jobs than ever. I've had a lot of experience in the past three months with AI and coding as a non-coder. It is atrocious. But if you're a coder, you can certainly use, like, as in you, I don't want to say coder. If you're a software engineer, you can certainly use. Say coder. I don't like coder.

You can certainly use the large language models to check syntax and to save you some time on things. And yes, of course, you can say, hey, build me a check-in script. So when people come to the front desk, they put their, yeah, of course it can do that. All right. You don't need to employ a full-time employee to do those types of things necessarily.

But I've talked to enough dudes named Ben and dudettes named Bernadette who say, no, no. This is, it's not, you cannot put this in the hands of mere mortals. It doesn't do the job. The only thing we have to be worried about with AI is people's loneliness. It was actually rolling stone of all, of all publications. I did not expect this from them. People are losing loved ones to AI-fueled spiritual fantasies.

People are moving towards artificial intelligence, i.e. chatbots, let's just call it what it is, because they're lonely and they want to have interactions. And these interactions with men, of course, frequently lead to sexual fantasies. And, you know, it's no different than, you know, the, the nine, 900 lines back in the 80s. You'd think that you were talking to some hot, hot chick and, you know, people were paying two to five dollars a minute. It was a lot.

Yeah. People were, were losing their, their mortgage money and all kinds of stuff. And so people are turning to chatbots to alleviate their loneliness, which. Actually, it's the same. Now, I should mention, I never thought about this because I forgot about those 900 lines. And they always had a lot of advertising on TV. Oh, all the time back in the day. It all just disappeared kind of overnight when people started. When the internet came along.

Well, it was, I think there was more of the abuse of people. They would get one of these 900 number lines and it wasn't for chatting, but they use it for customer service. And they would, and people would be put on hold and they didn't know they were on a 900 line that was charging them $2 an hour. And they get these huge phone bills. I remember thinking people talking about, look at this $5,000 phone bill. And they go on and bitching about the phone bills and that became a lot of bad publicity.

And I think the whole thing died off because of that more than the internet. Well, the internet didn't help. Well, no, of course not. The internet didn't help anything. But, you know, I've, so I, when I went to the NRB, the national religious broadcasters conference, there was this company, but I don't want to mention the company because it doesn't matter. But they were selling artificial intelligence pastors, basically.

I don't think they called it that, but you put this chat bot on your website and their testimony was, well, people will tell their intimate thoughts and spiritual issues to a chat bot sooner than they would say it to a pastor. And the danger in all this, of course, is that, you know, you need human connection with people. And this is being, this is the absolute danger of artificial intelligence is the parlor trick, the chat bot.

And in fact, one of our producers sent me a, and Meta is way ahead of everybody. And they're smart because instead of trying to, you know, make a large language model that can program code for you, any app you want in the world, they're creating bots, engagement bots. So one of our producers sent me a Facebook, a screenshot of a Facebook chat group for the Lake Elizabeth families. So Lake Elizabeth, small community, they have a little Facebook group. And all of a sudden, Lizzie pops up.

And Lizzie is a cute little robot, looks like a robot. Now about the size of a, I don't know, the size of a small doll. Hi there, I'm Lizzie, the group's AI. I'm a resource here to help you in the group. You might start seeing me comment on posts if I can find relevant past content so you don't have to dig. And post to help you catch up on group activity or even get a conversation going. Like this is bad. Wow. Yeah. This was bad from one perspective, but it's effective. Yes, it's effective.

And people are just, I mean, this is your dead Internet happening as it takes place. And by the way, the most underreported story from two weeks ago regarding AI. Today, it's my honor to officially sign the Take It Down Act into law. It's a big thing, very important, so horrible what takes place. This will be the first ever federal law to combat the distribution of explicit, imaginary, posted without subject's consent. They take horrible pictures and I guess sometimes even make up the pictures.

And they post it without consent or anything else. And very importantly, this includes forgeries generated by artificial intelligence known as deepfakes. We've all heard about deepfakes. I have them all the time, but nobody does anything. I asked Pam, can you help me, Pam? She says, no, I'm too busy. Too busy doing other things. Don't worry, you'll survive. But a lot of people don't survive. That's true and so horrible.

With the rise of AI image generation, countless women have been harassed with deepfakes and other explicit images distributed against their will. This is the wrong and it's just so horribly wrong. And it's a very abusive situation like in some cases people have never seen before. And today, we're making it totally illegal. So, of course, the news media did nothing with this. No, there was no reporting on this whatsoever. None. For several reasons.

One, it's about AI and we all think the memes are funny. Two, it is a project spearheaded entirely by the first lady, Melania Trump, so we can't give her any props for anything. But here is the funniest part of it. So, I go to the Library of Congress to read the bill. Like, that's what I do. So, this is about artificial intelligence, because that's what makes these things, creating really horrible images. Of Taylor Swift. Well, kids are doing it on their classmates. Yeah, this is disgusting.

Kids are the worst. But it's about AI. And I'm reading the summary. The summary is generated by AI. Listen to this. This bill generally prohibits the non-consensual online publication of intimate visual depictions of individuals, both authentic and computer-generated, and requires certain online platforms to promptly remove such depictions upon receiving notice of their existence. Specifically, the bill prohibits the online publication of intimate visual depictions of an adult subject.

When you start off by saying this bill generally prohibits, generally, I've never seen that in the Library of Congress. Never. Separately, covered platforms must establish a process through which subjects of intimate visual depictions may notify the platform of the existence of and request removal of an intimate visual depiction, including the subject that was published without the subject's consent. I'm telling you this is a Chad GPT summary. I've read enough of them. It's just it's hilarious.

Well, that's ironic. So it's very interesting because the specifics are intimate visual depictions of an adult subject where publication is intended to cause or does harm or does cause harm to the subject where the depiction was published without the subject's consent or, in the case of an authentic depiction, was created or obtained under circumstances where the adult had a reasonable expectation of privacy.

Glenn Greenwald or a minor subject where publication is intended to abuse or harass the minor or to arouse or gratify the sexual desire of any person. This is a pretty broad bill. And I guess covered platforms must remove such depictions within 48 hours of notification. Under the bill, covered platforms are defined as public websites, online services or applications that primarily provide a forum for user generated content. You know, like our end of show mixes user generated content.

So no coverage of this whatsoever. No coverage. And I think that's a pretty big deal. I knew it's the editors. The editors of the major news outlets are no good. They're the ones who do the headlines that are misleading. The editors write headlines. People in the business know this. Once in a while you can get a headline through, but rarely. The editors are. Oh, I got a better headline than that.

And they're the ones who who assign stories and they're the ones who promote stories in the meetings and say we're going to cover this. We're going to cover that. We're not going to cover this and we're not going to cover that. It's the editors of America. You remember Marjorie Taylor Greene, who said, well, if I'd known that was in the bill, I wouldn't have voted for it. Yeah, she got suckered. Yes, she did. Well, here's the details about this 10 year regulation ban on the states.

There is a section in the Big Beautiful Bill that would move to update federal government systems with the help of A.I. So what could this mean on a state level? Our sources to answer this, the U.S. Congress, Catawba College political professor Michael Bitzer and the National Conference of State Legislatures. The Big Beautiful Bill outlines the initiative in Section 43201.

It would grant 500 million dollars over the next 10 years to, quote, modernize and secure federal information technology systems. But the bill would also ban state led A.I. regulations and block dozens of states from enforcing preexisting rulings. So any time the federal government tells the states what they can and cannot do, that's a component of federalism. Oftentimes that might get challenged in court by various states.

Right now, there is no centralized federal oversight of A.I. leaving states to navigate the ever changing technology on their own. This type of regulation is something the federal government has done for decades. One example is raising the drinking age. The reason that we have a drinking age of 21 was federal legislation back in the 1980s. The federal government said states, if you want federal highway funds for your interstate highways, you have to raise your drinking age from 18 to 21.

When it comes to how individual states can respond. Well, states can go into court and certainly challenge any federal policy that they disagree with. And so this may be, you know, the ultimate, you know, in road. If this does get passed within this legislation, some states may say, you know, we want the power to be able to oversee A .I. in our borders. We're going to challenge this in federal court. Yeah, it's going to be a question of, oh, you don't like it. No money for you.

And I think the state should have the right to regulate that however they want to. I have mixed feelings about it. I don't like the idea of this in certain situations where you have one state saying one thing, another state saying another. And it becomes a problem because of the especially anything regarding A.I., which is. Cross-dominantly connected to the Internet, which is just which goes beyond beyond state lines.

Yes. Yeah. If Marjorie Taylor Greene would not have voted for it, if she was in there. Yeah, sure. Can I just take us down a quick path of NATO and Zelensky and the drones? Because it's interesting what's happening here. Then it's I have clips, if I could follow up with you after you're done. OK, clips on this. So right now we're in a in a situation where the the ministers. The defense ministers in the EU or NATO, really. But let's just say it's the EU. They are talking about.

The five percent that, quite honestly, President Trump is demanding from them to buy our military gear. And so let's listen first to the Swedish minister of defense. NATO needs to achieve a strong ability to deter and defend. We take note of Russia right now being bogged down in and around Ukraine. It hasn't been successful so far, but we also know after an armistice or a peace agreement. Of course, Russia is going to allocate more forces closer to our vicinity.

Therefore, it's extremely important that the alliance use these couple of years now when Russia is delimited by its force postures in and around Ukraine. And also that it's been weakened by the war that we do in historic build up on on our armed forces. I do want to convey that this is an historic moment for Europe. If we are able to reach five percent by 2030 or 2032, we're going to go up to a defense investment that was at the height of the Cold War.

And it's necessary for us to strengthen our ability to defend and continue living in peace. OK, Sweden's in for five percent. Let's go to Lithuania. This is Paul John. No, that was Paul Johnson. This is what's her name here? Doville Saklin, the minister. That's a I'm sure I got that wrong. She's the minister of defense for Lithuania. NATO needs to. That's the Swedish guy again. Hold on a second. Here she is. Well, yesterday it was just, you know, informal meetings about that.

But today we're going to have a real discussion. So my question to my colleagues is that if we all trust our intelligence, if we trust NATO military intelligence and they say that it's just a few years until Russia is going to be able to test NATO, then what are we going to do? Ask them for extension, ask them to delay the deadline. This is not going to happen. So therefore, I'd like to hear the answers. What is then their plan?

Translation, if we don't do it and Russia attacks, we're going to say, hold on, we don't we got to get the money. Very smart. Miss from Lithuania. But it was a short clip who gave it away when I heard him. I'm like, OK, I see what's going on here. He was asked a question at this minister summit. He's always there, by the way. I look, I'm just going to say maybe he has a cold, but he is touching and rubbing and sniffing his nose is like that. I've never seen him do this.

But he now answers a question. And you spotted it. Yeah. And I'm not the guy who spots that. You're usually the guy who spots that. And now Dave Ackerman, who sent me this clip, he said he always sends me the the YouTube videos of France 24 and stuff. And I clip whatever I want. He now calls him White Lines Ritter. And so White Lines is talking about hybrid warfare, hybrid. Ah, this is something new. Two things.

First, when we discuss hybrids, that we realize that that is basically an umbrella for sometimes an assassination attempt on the CEO of a big company. Sometimes the jamming of commercial airplanes in parts of NATO airspace, sometimes even cyber attacks, for example. And I mentioned that before. The example, you know, on the National Health Service in the United Kingdom. So we have seen this.

We have seen the Skripal case in 2018, March 2018 in the UK, which was, of course, also an assassination attempt. So these issues, we really have to consider that this is next to the traditional warfare is increasing. That we have to know what is happening. That we have to know how we can make sure that those doing this, if this is the Russians or whoever are behind this, that we not only notice, but we don't don't accept it. And that we will find ways to make sure it stops.

And that's what the hybrid strategy is all about. The hybrid strategy, the only thing he didn't mention is the drones, because that has been the change. This Operation Spiderweb from Ukraine against Russia, I think, was a big promotional push. And we'll just a little background. You heard it in your news overview from ABC. Here's Martha Raddatz with the president of Ukraine, the dancing Vladimir Zelensky. Let's talk about Operation Spiderweb. Please.

So you believe you did destroy maybe 40 aircraft. Others say maybe 10 to 20. How many did you destroy? We think, we think, we think. And we have our analytics that we destroyed 34% of their strategic air jets. President Zelensky describing the operation as complicated and clandestine. 18 months in the making, so secretive not even the US was informed. We have to prepare such class. By the way, bullcrap. I agree with you. Bullcrap. There's no way we weren't informed. Bullcrap.

It was just a plausible deniability bullcrap. Making so secretive not even the US was informed. We have to prepare such class. And we are not stopping. We have to prepare such class. Because Russia can't, because we don't know, we don't really know if they will stop this war. They don't want. They don't want to stop the war. This is the problem. The key to the plan, Ukrainian drones just like these which the president's office arranged for us to see this weekend. Simple yet deadly.

Packed with an explosive unit. This is one of many drone production facilities across Ukraine spread out across the country. We can't tell you exactly where we are because obviously these facilities are Russian targets. Okay, so obviously it's very secretive what she's doing and everything there. This is a little more background on Operation Spiderweb. The 100 drones used in Operation Spiderweb were smuggled into Russia hidden in containers with remotely controlled retractable roofs.

The drones had all been concealed on trucks with Russian drivers unknowingly delivering the payload. They didn't know anything. They didn't know what will be in the roofs. They didn't know just when it will, because they didn't know what will be. That's why they didn't know when it will be and where. So I think this is important, very important. And those drones and the Ukrainian pilots guiding them knowing the Russian aircraft's most vulnerable spot where the fuel is held.

After examining old Soviet aircraft still in Ukraine and on display. And we have heard that they knew what parts of that airplane to hit. Yes. Because you have airplanes from museums. Yes. They knew exactly where to hit and they did it exactly what was in their idea step by step. They did very clear this operation. Okay, so now let's talk about this operation. Let's talk about this operation. From a podcast, Preston Stewart. And I'm not going to poop on Preston. No pooping on Preston.

He had Yevgen Karas, the commander of Ukraine's 413th Unmanned Systems Forces Battalion on the podcast about the drones. And I mean the whole podcast like 40 minutes is great. It's in the show notes. This guy talks about the drones, about how they get if they create a drone configuration that that kills Russians, they get a bonus. I mean, it's like a game. It's literally like a video game. But then you got to kind of get into it because he's a Ukrainian speaking English.

Listen to what he says about where the drones came from. Some companies start moving. So I think many countries, many companies, they want to bring their weapons here to be clarified. Is it working? Many companies from many countries want to bring their weapons here to, he says, clarify. In other words, to verify, certify that their weapons are working. To test market. To test market. Thank you. Many countries, many companies, they want to bring their weapons here to be clarified. Is it working?

And they used it like assistance to Ukraine. Some drones we buy from the government. Some drones still now send it to Ukraine as a gift. I know some very rich guys, especially now one American guy doing very big gifts to Ukraine army. One big rich American guy sending drones to the Ukraine army. Really? He really saved many of our lives because he does his job well. And his drones are not so expensive. His drones are cheap. He sends them to us for free to go test market them.

And then right on cue, the Wall Street Journal. I'd never heard of the JCU. Remember we heard that guy, the lieutenant colonel, the propagandist about drone warfare. Oh, we're not ready. We got to get ready. We got to get ready for the drones. Well, the Wall Street Journal did a report on the JCU drone anti-drone warfare and how they're training our troops.

The U.S. military has launched a new school to train American armed forces in how to counter the emerging threat of drones, or what it calls Unmanned Aircraft Systems, or UAS, the first academy of its kind. The Joint Counter Small Unmanned Aircraft Systems University, or JCU, will train about 1,000 troops a year. Warfare is changing very fast. This threat right here, this current threat with respect to UAS, it's the pace of your phone changing.

This footage is from a Ukrainian drone attack carried out against Russian forces. And this video is from a Hamas drone attack in November carried out against Israeli forces in Gaza. The proliferation of small, cheap, commercially available drones is transforming modern warfare. And this has not been lost on the Pentagon. Colonel Mosef Sauda is the director of the JCU. The pace of the need is outgrowing capacity right now.

So we're trying to train as many people as possible and trying to grow as fast as possible to fit that need. Today, students at Fort Sill are training on weapons systems to counter small unmanned aircraft. The students are also learning how to use another handheld system, the drone buster. Whereas the smart shooter utilizes the 5-5 -6 round, this is known as an electronic attack system. So a soldier is taking this here and they're pointing it in the general direction of the target that they see.

And then a soldier will place it in operation, utilize various jamming means to interdict that target. Ten-minute video on the anti-drone warfare. President Trump. This came in two days ago. President Trump orders restrictions slashed on U.S. drones. Executive orders give local law enforcement more power to take down rogue drones. Okay. Well, isn't that interesting? This thing was a sales video. The sales video for not just the drone industry, but according to a producer, Boots on the Ground.

I am familiar with internal discussion, says our, of course, anonymous source familiar with the matter. I just listened to your Iron Dome versus Golden Dome presentation on episode 1770 at the 48 minute 30 second mark. You are correct in your concept, but incorrect in your nomenclature. Iron Dome is out. There is only Golden Dome. Golden Dome is very broad. Multiple layers. Sea, land, air, space, cyber. That should draw a better picture of the context of the concept's correct nomenclature.

The Iron, the Golden Dome will be against drones. It is the boondoggle of all boondoggles that President Trump is launching here for the military industrial complex. Huge boondoggle. Name a military industrial complex thing ever that's not a boondoggle. Right. Besides World War II. But when you throw in the drones, hybrid, baby. This is what, Ritter is the sale, he's the brown shoes. Hybrid. Oh, it's hybrid. We got to have Golden Dome against poisoning people.

Golden Dome against shooting executives. Golden Dome against cyber. Golden Dome against drones. By the way, listen again, because you didn't catch it, to the Swedish defense minister. What the Swedish defense minister says. And this is someone who's in the conversations about Ukraine and Russia. Well, yesterday it was just informal meetings about that. But today we're going to have a real discussion. So my question to my colleagues is that if we all trust our intelligence.

If we trust NATO military intelligence and they say that it's just a few years until Russia is going to be able to test NATO. Then what are we going to do? Ask them for extension. Ask them to. Shoot. Where is this? Delay the deadline. This is not going to happen. So therefore, I'd like to hear the answers. What is that? Crap. Crap. I cut it out. My best part. I did it again. That's why I didn't spot it. Yes. She said armistice. Whether there's going to be a peace or an armistice.

Crap. I'm sorry. I blew that one. Yes. And you were accusatory. Yes. No. I thought I was slim and sly. She mentioned armistice. It's going to be an armistice. There will never be a peace. It will be an armistice. After the big NATO summit meeting. After everybody is. All the defense ministers have agreed. They all signed their checks. It's all going to come in. And there's going to be one big golden dome over America. And probably over Europe. All golden. It's going to be beautiful.

A beautiful golden dome. Let's go meta on this whole thing. And say that the Russians are in on this. I. Well. Here is. And let's say that the Russians had a bunch of bombers they needed to get rid of. Because they got to. You know. These are all dogs. And let's let them blow them up. And we can start up our industrial complex. And make some extra money for the public. Whatever they just blew up has to be built again. Bigger. Better. Oh. Yeah. No. I. War is a racket. This whole thing.

And unfortunately. They blow up all these. There's five bases that were attacked. It seems. It did the last analysis. And so they blow up all these Russian bombers. And the Russians don't make a bigger fuss than they did. They to throw a few more drones and almost killed somebody. Did you see President. I'm in agreement with you. Did you see President Trump with Mr. Peepers? Yeah, I did. This was. Listen to these short clips. I'd love to have that. I'd like it to start.

And right now we would leave. This is President Trump talking about peace between Russia and Ukraine. I'd love to have that. I'd like it to start. And right now we would leave a room. If we knew the work that everyone would say. Forget about you guys. Forget. Forget about trade. Right. We're safe. Let's go settle it. There's some additional fighting that's going to go on. You know, he was. He attacked and they attacked pretty harshly. They went deep into Russia. And he actually told me.

I mean, I made it very clear. He said we have no choice but to attack based on that. And it's probably not going to be pretty. I don't like it. I said, don't do it. You shouldn't do it. You should stop it. But again, there's a lot of hatred. Yeah. President Trump saying it's going to go on for a little bit longer. And then Peepers pipes up and says something very interesting. We get satellite pictures of the war field. And you don't even like to look at it. Right.

Bodies, arms, heads, legs all over the place. You've never seen anything like it. It's so ridiculous. And this is only by Russian weapons against Ukraine. Notice what he said. Oh, no, there's only Russian weapons against Ukraine that blow up the people. That is not happening anywhere else. Legs all over the place. You've never seen anything like it. It's so ridiculous. And this is only by Russian weapons against Ukraine. This has never happened with Ukraine weapons against Russia.

Never happened with Ukraine weapons against Russia. You mean those drones that come in and the poor Russian soldiers running around and the drone just blows up on him? That didn't happen? Okay. Trump calls them out on just a little bit. Never. Ukraine is only targeting military targets, not civilians, not private, not energy infrastructure. So this is the difference. And that's the reason why we are trying to do more on Russia, how to stop this war.

Well, in this case, I'm talking about the battlefield, you know, the soldiers on soldiers. But you could also say that, too, with the cities. The cities are being hit also. So it's a terrible, terrible thing. Terrible, terrible. Oh, he had to, of course, correct. That's interesting. Yeah, because Peepers like... Mr. Peepers is an idiot. Yeah. And then Trump says something very interesting, which, of course, didn't get play.

But now that I think about it, yeah, that did kind of die down pretty quick. And, you know, I'm very proud of the fact that with India and Pakistan, I was able to stop that. And those are nuclear powers that would have really that was getting close to being out of hand. And I spoke to some very talented people on both sides, very good people on both sides. And I said, you know, we're dealing with you and trade, Pakistan and India right now. I said, we're not going to deal with you and trade.

If you're going to go shooting each other and whipping out nuclear weapons that maybe even affect us, because, you know, that nuclear dust blows across oceans very quickly. It affects us. And I said, if you're going to do that, we're not going to do any trade deals. And you know what? I got that war stopped. Now, I hope we don't go back and we find out that they signed it, but I don't think they will. They were both good. They were well represented.

I want to congratulate both countries, because, as you know, the leader of India, who's a great guy, was here a few weeks ago. We had some great talks. We're doing a trade deal. And Pakistan, likewise, they have very, very strong leadership. Some people won't like when I say that, but, you know, it is what it is. And they stopped that war. Now, am I going to get credit? I'm not going to get credit for anything. They don't give me credit for anything. But nobody else could have done it.

I don't get credit for anything. But I believe it. I believe you called them up and said, hey, stop that nonsense. No trade deals. I believe that. I believe it, too. But I think the good people on both sides reference. That's funny. That was funny. Callback was hilarious. That was funny. That was very funny. Good people on both sides. Both sides. Good people on both sides. And then, during the Peepers meeting, oh, no. Oh, no. We're talking to China again.

We had a very good conversation with President Xi a little while ago, just before your arrival. In fact, we just hung up and they said, you're here. I said, that's pretty good. Two great leaders of the world in a very short period of time. We had a very good talk. And we've straightened out any complexity. And it's very complex stuff. And we straightened it out.

The agreement was we're going to have Scott and Howard and Jameson will be going and meeting with their top people and continue it forward. But no, I think we have everything. I think we're in very good shape with China and the trade deal. We have a deal with China, as you know, but we were straightening out some of the points having to do mostly with rare earth magnets and some other things. So it's reduced trade tariff rates. They remain in effect. We have we have the deal.

I mean, we've had a deal. We announced the deal. And I guess you could say I wouldn't even say finalizing it up. Scott, I would say we have a deal and we're going to just make sure that everybody understands what the deal is. They had a deal. I stumbled there. I don't think he meant to say that. He kind of backed away. They have a deal, obviously. And clearly they have a deal. Yes. Something's up. Yeah. Probably a counter for the stock market. That was going up a little bit. There was one.

Yeah. There was one other thing that I thought was, you know, we're in the season of reveal. I mean. Season of reveal. Well. Hey. Sorry. Sorry. Well, the first thing with the season of reveal. This came. This was also in the. Let me see where it is. It was in the Wall Street Journal. Pentagon disinformation that fueled America's UFO mythology. Did you even hear about this? No. Tell me.

A tiny Pentagon office had spent months investigating conspiracy theories about secret Washington UFO programs when it uncovered a shocking truth. At least one of those theories had been fueled by the Pentagon itself. The congressional, congressionally ordered probe took investigators back to the 1980s. Remember that whole, the whole hearing? And it was like, oh no, I've seen it. It's off world. And we like, these guys are full of crap.

When an Air Force colonel visited a bar near Area 51, a top secret site in the Nevada desert, he gave the owner photos of what might be flying saucers. The photos went up on the walls and into the local lore went. The idea of the U.S. military was secretly testing recovered alien technology. But the colonel was on a mission of disinformation. The photos were doctored. The now retired officer confessed. Doctored? Yes. The now retired officer confessed to the Pentagon investigators.

The whole exercise was a ruse to protect what was really going on in Area 51. The Air Force was using the site to develop top secret stealth fighters viewed as critical edge against, at the time, the Soviet Union. All those TikTok videos and stuff, trust me, this is all bull crap. All of it, all of it has been to cover up their own, their own stuff, which probably doesn't work very well. Season of reveal. But they didn't reveal much. What? That, that the Pentagon itself was lying about UFOs?

Where's that in the news? Well, it's in the Wall Street Journal, but who cares? Of course. The Pentagon was lying. Wait a minute. Let me get this straight. The Pentagon was lying? Well, yes. Gambling. Is gambling going on and that's to use the season of reveal? Because it's been unknown in the past that they lie? About the UFOs specifically. Listen, Joe Rogan said. Well, that could be, maybe it's a meta. Maybe they're living with some aliens in the White House as we speak. Oh, OK. I'm sorry.

Yeah, I should have, I should have figured that one out. That would be your perspective. I don't get it. Why you're, why you're knuckling under here to what might be a, an op. I don't think so. Here's another season of reveal. Now, a Japanese aerospace company trying to put a lander on the surface of the moon says it has lost contact with the craft. The lander, Resilience, is owned by iSpace. And this is only the third time in history that a private company has tried to reach the moon.

It's also the first time a company outside the U.S. has achieved this feat. Resilience is an uncrewed spacecraft which was carried into orbit by a SpaceX rocket in January. Keith Cowings, a SpaceX person, editor of nasawatch .com. He joins us from Washington, D.C. Now, iSpace, the Japanese enterprise, they lost communication as the lander approached the surface of the moon. We seem to hear that a lot when people try and do this. Yeah, it's, going to the moon is straightforward.

Orbiting the moon is straightforward. Coming down close to the moon, sending pictures is straightforward. But landing is always hard. They were going kind of fast when they lost the telemetry of the data. So, I really don't think we have a healthy spacecraft on the moon. We may have a crashed spacecraft. Right. So, getting this far, is that, getting as far as actually starting to approach the moon to try and land, is that standard or is that actually quite an achievement?

You know, the idea is to go to the moon and land there. And we sort of have, again, the notion of going to the moon and going around it is easier than doing all the rocketry so the thing lands exactly how you want it. So, I'm happy that they made it that far. I just wish they would have gone a little bit further and a little slower. 50 years ago, we did it in a tuna fish can. How can it be hard? This is second half of show stuff. 55 years ago. This is the second half of show stuff.

They were missing so much. We never landed on the moon in the first place. The Japanese make great cars. They can't even land on the moon. It's all fake. My favorite, though, is Kash Patel going on Rogan, spending an hour talking about China killing us on purpose with fentanyl. Russiagate was a setup. Really? Did you watch the whole thing? I watched about 70%. Did you watch the whole thing? I didn't watch any of it. I don't really watch too much Rogan. It was only on for two hours.

The timing is interesting. About Epstein, we're going to get everything. The Epstein thing is hilarious, the way they're handling it. We have to cover up a lot of stuff. We've got to protect the innocent. But we're doing it. We're going to release an artificial intelligence movie of showing that he's by himself. The problem is the AI keeps giving Epstein six fingers on one hand. They'll fix that. They've got to keep regenerating it.

But what I like a lot, and I know that this is bubbling and he's been talking about it more and more. This is really going to come into play. This is the auto pen controversy. Well, look, the auto pen, I think, is the big scandal outside of the rigged election of 2020. I think the biggest scandal of the last many years is the auto pen. And who's using it? I happen to think I know, OK, because I'm here. And I'm not a big auto pen person, fortunately. I'm glad. I'm very glad. It's an easy way out.

But it's a very bad thing, very dangerous. You know, I sign important documents. Usually when they put documents in front of you, they're important. Even if you're signing ambassadorships or anything, I consider that important. I think it's inappropriate. You have somebody that's devoting four years of their life or more to being an ambassador. I think you really deserve, that person deserves to get a real signature, not an auto pen signature. And I can tell auto pen easily.

I can look at it like two little pinholes from pulling the paper. Right. You always see the pinholes. It's real easy to tell about auto pen. I think it's very disrespectful to people when they get an auto pen signature. Outside, auto pen to me are used when thousands of letters come in from young people all over the country. And you want to get them back. And, you know, people use auto pens for that to send a little signature at the bottom of a letter. We have thousands of them.

We get thousands of letters a week. And it's not possible to do. I'd like to do it myself. You can't do it to me. That's where auto pens start and stop. But I don't think I'm sure that he didn't know many of the things. Look, he was never for open borders. He was never for transgender, for everybody. He was never for men playing in women's sports. I mean, he changed all of these things that changed so radically.

I don't think he had any idea that what was frankly, I said it during the debate and I say it now. He didn't have much of an idea what was going on. Mr. President. I mean, essentially, whoever used the auto pen was the president. And that is wrong. It's illegal. It's so bad. And it's so disrespectful to our country. I smell something coming. Well, there is something coming. But it's interesting to listen to Trump because what he said there could have been said in 15 seconds.

He just is the most long winded guy. I know. He's going to wear everybody out. I mean, he gets us to under our two minute time limit for a clip, but just barely. But I like the two little pinholes. You can tell because of the two little pinholes. That's interesting. I didn't know about that with the auto pen. I didn't know that. He does season of reveal material. Season of reveal, yes. So now we all know what to look for.

Yeah. But if those papers that were auto pen signed were not directed by the president, can they be declared null and void? Do over? That's what they're working on. That's where they're headed. They're trying to do that so they can pull the pardons on some of these people. Yes. No, that's it. That's it. To pull the pardons on those people. I think that's it. That's all that he's going to do. Everything else is complicated because of Congress voted for it. And they sent a bill.

That's complicated. But the pardons, yeah. I can see that's where he's going. And I think he's targeting Adam Schiff. Pencil neck. That'll be funny. Yeah. Adam Schiff is in deep shit. This guy. Yeah. California. What do you expect? By the way, on the quads right now, protests erupt. Ice against protests. And literally the ice guys are just standing there in a line. Nothing's happening. CNN. Protests erupt for third day. Ice raids. BBC. National Guard troops clash. No, it's not a single.

They're literally standing there. There's not a single clash taking place. Standoff between National Guard and protesters on third day in L.A. MSNBC. Fox. House subcommittee to hold hearing on anti-Semitic attacks. Okay, there you go. No wonder people listen to podcasts. Oof. So I have two clips before we go to the break, which I think is overdue. Yep. Because these clips, I put one that's been in for probably a month. These are Andrew Tate warning clips.

But I want to play these two clips one after the other. And one of them is because it doesn't make sense. There's something going on. This guy is an op of some sort. I've never understood. I haven't really paid attention to it. You have the same sense I do. Something is amiss. But this is Andrew Tate arrest PBS. Prosecutors in the U.K. say that the influencers Andrew and Tristan Tate have been charged with rape, human trafficking and other crimes.

Officials say the charges were authorized last year and are only now being confirmed. The Tates were arrested in Romania in 2022 and indicted last year on charges of sexually exploiting women. Andrew Tate was also charged with rape there. British prosecutors say the two will be extradited to the U.K. once the Romanian case is concluded. The Tates are dual citizens of the U .S. and U.K. and they deny any wrongdoing. The whole Romania thing is odd.

Okay, so we have what sounds like you've got two horrible people that are under arrest. But then explain this second clip. The online influencer and self-declared misogynist Andrew Tate has been fined and suspended from driving after being caught doing nearly four times the speed limit in Romania. Officials say the British-American national was driving nearly 200 kilometers an hour in a village despite a 50 kilometer an hour limit.

Mr. Tate and his brother Tristan face charges including rape and human trafficking in Romania as well as separate allegations in Britain and the United States. They deny all those accusations. Wait, so this was from yesterday, by the way. So these guys, all this bullcrap, and they're just floating around, driving around at high speeds and carefree. Does this make any sense at all? No. And how does Romania fit into it? What are they doing in Romania? Why Romania?

There's something very suspicious about the whole Andrew Tate situation. Yeah, yeah. I feel like every one of these things, it's like these are coded messages. I don't know who they're coded for or why or how, but the whole 200 kilometers an hour. That's pretty fast in a village. That's very fast. That is fast by any standards. Hey, with that, I want to thank you for your courage in the morning to you, the man who put the sea in the ice federalization. Say hello to my friend on the other end.

The one, the only Mr. John C. DeMora. Yeah, in the morning to you, Mr. Andrew Tate, the man who put the sea in the ice. And all the dames and knights out there. Good morning to the trolls in the troll room. Stop. Hey, I need more bangs, more bangs. It scatters them. There you go. Yes, there we go. We're back on par. We're back on par. 2247 at the peak. That makes sense. That's about right for a Sunday, isn't it? 2247. No, it's down. 24 is what we should have. Oh, well. Hello, trolls.

Good to have you here. We appreciate you all so much. The trolls hanging out in the troll room at trollroom.io. Hey, I got a lot of feedback on the new podcast apps. Everyone's like, yeah, man, Apple should be using Podping. We talked about on the last show. Yeah, Podping. Yeah, I guess you didn't call Apple. Why would they? Yeah, I know. You said it a couple of shows ago. Not invented here. It's a mantra of Silicon Valley. Podcasting wasn't invented there either. Yet they love that.

Well, they've assumed. Somehow they've assumed that it was invented there. Yeah. So everything else is not invented. I bet if you stand outside that spaceship and you say, hey, who invented podcasting? They all say Steve. Steve Jobs. Steve Jobs. Of course. Yeah, he invented it. Probably true. Yeah, that's what you do. That's how you do it. Yes. Silicon Valley. So if you want to stay in touch with your favorite podcasts, don't be duped. Don't be duped by the legacy apps. They're no good.

Get a modern podcast app. Hundreds of thousands of podcasts are using the technology that updates within 90 seconds of posting. Or as some would say, downloading. And of course, the new hot stuff is the live podcasts. And there are a lot of podcasts, particularly on the No Agenda stream. I think all of them use what we call the lit technology, the live item tag for live. So your podcast app will notify you when they go live. This is what you want. Many more features as well, podcastapps.com.

Thank you to our artists. Wow. We, I guess we were, we were wrong. You know, in the value for value model, we have many ways people can contribute and support the show. One of them is, well, two of them are time and talent. And we love our artists who are always helping us by giving us artwork to use for, for the album art. So it's always exciting. And we've been doing it for, gosh, well over 15 years. I think maybe even longer. We've had no agenda, artgenerator.com.

And we were pretty convinced that digital 2112 man was a, an alias for Darren O 'Neill. It turns out that's not true. It turns out to be a real person. At least in this, it's an op that's so elaborate that I don't even think Darren would do it. Yes. But he's obvious. He says himself, he's a, he's actually an expat. He hates the term, but he is, he lives in Madeira, Portugal. Yes. That was interesting. And he is a former, not a spook, but former guy. I forgot what he did.

Some kind of, some kind of thing. Yeah. And he, he, he moved to Portugal for the cheap, for the cheap cost of living. Cost of living. And he was a Madeira that got good wine there. I give you a Madeira, Madeira. So he, it seems as if he's using the same tools and has developed the same prompting techniques as Darren giving us a results that are almost identical. Well, and there it is. There, there is the fallacy of AI. Like it all starts to look up.

It all looks like each, like, like the other one. It all sounds like it. And of course, Darren never chimed in. Nah. He didn't say anything. He wanted to take credit for being a smarty and giving him more credit than he deserves, which he loves. Darren deserves a lot of credit, man. Well, he's a very talented person. He is. And he's like six foot nine or something. Six foot nine? Yeah, he's huge. He's like Lurch. Gives you a different view. Hello, Darren. I'm Darren. You rang? You rang.

We want to thank Blue Acorn for his AI prompting skills. I think, I don't know. I'm afraid to say it. I'm sure. Eh, you don't know. Blue Acorn doesn't always use AI. He's told us that. This could be, this could be just Blue Acorn. He brought us the artwork for episode 1770. We titled that one Control Grid. I did get some people thanking us for talking about Katherine Austin Fitz. Katherine Webb, that she sometimes turns out to be. And this was the salmon to the face.

Which, and I think I copied you on the reply. Someone reminded me that this was a Monty Python skit. Although not with salmons. I think it was herring. Well, it was herring, then it was followed by a salmon or some big fish. Yeah, where they were slapping each other in the face with the fish. So, yes. But if you're from Holland, you understand these types of expressions. Getting hit in the face with a wet salmon. And it was a funny piece. I think we both went, yeah, let's do that one.

Let's do Blue Acorn. Well, it was hard. There wasn't anything better. You did like the Control Grid. I didn't like that at all. Let me see what that was. It was down further. There wasn't any real killers. There was a lot of Trump, Elon stuff. Trump and Elon. We try to not put people in so often. And a lot of socks. A lot of socks. A lot of socks. I can't remember what the sock reference was. We were talking about socks made in America. Yeah, the gold toes. Yes, exactly.

No, I liked the one with Trump and Musk laughing and then the CNN headline in the back, Trump and Musk at war. But you nixed that. Probably rightly so. Interesting. No, we looked at that. Let's see. Control Grid. I don't see the Control Grid. Oh, look, there's Darren. There's Darren. Darren posted, don't fall for the cheap imitations. I am not digital 2-1-1-2 man. Okay. Cheap imitation. And again, I'm just looking at tons of AI. It's all AI. There's a piece or two that's not.

It's all starting to look like the piece next to it. All of it. I'm not seeing that so much. Oh, come on. You're a hater. It's boring. Let's just face it. It's boring. I'd rather have bad mixes for end of show. The mix that you've got coming up is the worst mix you've probably ever produced. I produce nothing. I just get what people send me. It's the worst mix you've ever approved. I approve everything. It's user-generated content. That's how it works. You sometimes are great.

People at the end will hear it and they'll probably never listen to the show again. Really? AdamMcCurry.com, if you like the piece, tell them that John's full of it and these mixes that we have today on today's show are fabulous because that's what Adam thinks is going to happen. And I disagree. But I could be wrong. It could be terrific. Hold on, hold on. Maybe I don't like them for some psychological reason.

Yes. And I don't like people that just clip us saying something and then repeating it over and over and over again meaninglessly with no song involved or any creativity whatsoever. This says the guy who likes house music. Who says I like house music? You like that techno. You like techno. You're a techno guy. Come on, you like a lot of that techno stuff. Rave music. I've heard you like it. Okay, so what? But that's what they're making. Well, that's an interesting approach.

Well, here's the thing. So people don't know this if you don't listen to the live show, but I'll play the end of show mixes before the show starts. It's kind of a little warm up after Darren and then we just get going. And then typically I open up John's mic and I say in the morning and then you say in the morning and then I do the whole fat lady thing. And it's okay if you don't like the mixes. But when I say in the morning and you say I think you don't even say in the morning.

I think we should get rid of those. We shouldn't play those. Those are no good. That's not a good segment altogether. Is that not what you said? Well, I didn't use that intonation. That's how it sounded in my ears. Well, everything to you. But you didn't even say good morning in the morning. Hello. Hello, partner. I'm glad you showed up again. Well, first of all, first of all, you were late. So I go. I was not late.

I turned on the I was clipping for the show and I was running long and I just hadn't brought up clean feed yet. And you're texting like, where are you? In the exact in that exact tone. Let me see. Let me read it to you. Yes, it's exactly that tone. Here it is. Why are you not online? Question mark, question mark, question mark. That's three question marks. How am I supposed? Is that why you're not online? Or is that why you're not online? What's wrong with you? It was it.

It was in all caps the way you're expressing it. You know, funny enough, you didn't even capitalize the first letter of the sentence. Of course not, because it was it was low key. I thought here's what I thought. I thought you were using the old instance. Well, that wouldn't make any difference. You can come in on the old instance or the new instance. No, I only have one that I can come in on, which is the new one. No, the other one still works. Yeah, but I don't have a link to it anymore.

My point is I didn't change you. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. No, I usually would. You usually have the whole hour of Darren. And I like listening to Darren's stuff so I can complain about it. And he I have to say he did have a I think it was Def Leppard version of Traveling Band. Yes. Do you not know that this is that was quite good. Do you not know this is on the No Agenda stream? And if you can listen to it, they're live in real. I've done that.

But I every so often when I do that, I leave the stream running and it confuses everything because you get this feedback and it's like, can't. All right. Doesn't work. Thank you very much. We're done now. I just want to make the point that the troll room is now mommy and daddy are fighting. Oh, no. Oh, there are a bunch of weenies if they think that they're weenies. This is the money. This is what they have. Some issues. My point is they didn't feel that way when Trump and Elon were fighting.

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I don't think it gets us anywhere but at least it shows that somebody is covering it. This I think NPR NPR it is. The United States Copyright Office is normally kind of quiet. Low drama. Authors and artists go there to register their works and Congress goes there when it needs advice on copyright issues. But lately between the firings and the lawsuits and a highly anticipated report on A.I. The office is not so quiet. Here's NPR's Andrew Limbaugh. Let's start the story on a Thursday. May 8th.

President Trump abruptly fired Carla Hayden the Librarian of Congress. The next day May 9th the U.S. Copyright Office which resides within the Library of Congress published a highly anticipated report on whether or not using copyrighted works to train generative A.I. counted as fair use. Funny thing is this report was and still is labeled as a prepublication version. That part is extremely weird. In fact I don't think they've ever done that before.

That's Dave Hansen the Executive Director of the Authors Alliance an organization that argues for less strict copyright laws which is to say they interact regularly with the office. Anyway that report dropped on a Friday and then by Saturday Shira Perlmutter the head of the U.S. Copyright Office had a letter telling her that she was dismissed. That letter was sent by Trent Morris deputy assistant to the president.

It seems like there must be some sort of connection between the timing of the release and all of that other drama but we just don't really know exactly why. And we still don't quite yet. Perlmutter has since filed a lawsuit against President Trump as well as the two people he appointed currently acting as the new Librarian of Congress and the Register of Copyrights Todd Blanch and Paul Perkins. The argument being since both the Library of

Congress and the U.S. Copyright Office are under the legislative branch the president has no authority to hire or fire people. Oh. Really. Yeah. Huh. He's just firing anybody he feels like. Give him something to do. This is part two. But people broadly in the copyright world have been kind of stunned at how much their quiet neck of the woods has been shaken up. Christelia Garcia is a professor at Georgetown Law focusing on intellectual property.

Obviously politically things are all drama drama drama all the time now. But to have it come to the Copyright Office was quite a surprise for the copyright community who are sort of you know not used to being thrust into the spotlight. Generally speaking even with this sort of AI stuff. So what about that big bombshell report the Copyright Office published on generative AI the one the office put out before it was finalized.

Well what it said was in some instances using copyrighted materials to train generative AI could qualify as fair use. And in some cases it wouldn't. It is very even keeled. That's Keith Cooper Schmidt the CEO of the Copyright Alliance a group that represents artists and publishers for stronger copyright laws. And he says the report avoids generalizations and takes arguments on a case by case basis which is reflective of how Perlmutter ran the office.

Perlmutter was beloved no matter whether she agreed with you or not because she always did the hard work. She always was very thoughtful and considers all these different viewpoints. There are dozens of lawsuits going on right now over copyright and AI usage. While it remains to be seen if and how the legal teams on either side will use this report. This is just the beginning says Georgetown professor Christelia Garcia. This is just a foreshadowing of the front lines of the generative AI battle.

I think copyright is really taking the sort of canary in the coal mine here. The warning being if you haven't been paying attention to generative AI now is a good time to start. Your analysis Dr. Dvorak. Well they told us nothing. Pretty much in three minutes two clips nothing. And I don't know. I think it's my analysis is like everybody else's is like I don't know what's going to happen. I think there's fair use issues here but there's a lot of you know.

What I mean the pub there's a lot of public domain material that the generative AI can suck up. And then once in a while you get I asked perplexity the other day something about you are talking about it in a manner that sounds like it's a human you are on a bad track. And it was wrong with this answer because I knew the answer. I was just looking for the details. No it was wrong. Oh no. And I find it is wrong a lot.

And I'm not sure why it's wrong because if you read this is a real problem I think especially people who go to and some people do it on this show and some people do it on the DHM plug show. I've seen this happen on real time where the person will go to chat GPT or some AI to get a quick answer to a question. And I find that it would be the wrongness of a lot of these answers. And if you rephrase the question it gets it right. This is a real problem in my mind.

Well that's because there's no intelligence involved. They can't understand the kind I know there's no intelligence involved. But the point is it's supposed to be a neural network in front of the in front of the corpus that get analyzes the whole key to the success is analyzing the question you ask it or analyzing the prompt you give it and then then reacting accordingly to the prompt using a neural network that's supposed to mimic intelligence. It doesn't work well.

Oh it doesn't work well at all. Well no it works better than you like them to imagine but it doesn't work as well as I'd like. No it doesn't work well. Maxine Waters is now in Los Angeles. There you go. She's at the protests. Now they got a showboat. They got professional signs John professional signs at the already. Well they've been there the whole time. So the quad box everyone is live including the BBC. And I think they're just waiting for someone to kick it off. They're just waiting.

They're just standing two lines and wait for somebody to take a shot. Yeah. And throw or throw a Molotov cocktail. All the protesters are walking past the ICE agents filming them lives. I'm live everybody. Right now I'm live. We are brave. We're brave. We're standing up against the terror. The terror. The man. The man. Screw the man. Like no kings dot org. Make sure you go there on the 14th. We're streaming live. We're doing a live here on the Insta and on the tech talks.

We're live everywhere buddy. Yeah. We're live. Yeah. We're not taking it anymore. I'm not taking it from Trump. They are. Tears will come from this. Someone is going to do something and then they're going to get beaten upside the head. I can tell you right now everyone's waiting for it. Everyone's clued in. They're just waiting for some some douche bag some instigator to do something and then it's going to be messy. So OK. On the A.I. copyright. This is a story from the U.K.'s which is.

Could be concerning I guess if you don't read your contracts from 10 years ago. You can do it when you be in queue it. Her face may not be recognizable but Gayan is the voice behind adverts for some of Britain's biggest brands. Please make the gap when waiting for this dream. Now she's the unbeknown A.I. star announcer on board Scotland's trains. I feel violated. I feel completely violated. My voice is my job and I should be allowed to know who I'm working with and what I'm working on.

But more than that as a human being I should know who owns my voice data. So just to be clear you didn't know that you're going to be the voice of Scotland's railways. No I had no idea. I literally didn't know. This can all be traced back to a job Gayan carried out during Covid with the Swedish firm Reed Speaker recording scripts for the visually impaired. It was before artificial intelligence was really a thing. Fast forward a few years her voice has been sold and transformed into a robot.

Unions representing the creative industry claim this is exploitation and points to wider A.I. concerns. I feel burgled. I feel like my data has been burgled. I don't know who holds it. I don't know what they're doing with it. I've no control over it and I don't consent to it. Do you know I'm the voice of Apple for Singapore. Reed Speaker claims there is an agreement in place and all issues have been addressed. ScotRail has no plans to stop using the voice.

A story of consent contracts and concerns in an increasingly A.I. focused world. Well that's no good. Imagine that. I mean being a voice over artist is tough in general now. Yeah you don't make a lot of money. No. No. So they they they bought her voice. It was sampled by. Well if she signed it over.

Yeah. This is like people who signed their rights over when they do writing and they they sign all their rights over to some publisher and then it turns they don't keep it and then it turns into a Clooney movie. Good. Yeah. You feel really bad about it. Here's something I've been wondering for a long for many many years.

If you are running for the Governor of New York Why do they call the gubernatorial race what when does the B come in to governor That's a very good question it doesn't borderline on a great question no I know no there's no such thing because it can't you say a governor's race or gubernatorial Why is it gubernator like if you always make like goober?

Like they're a bunch of yeah, that's what there it is you just answer your question the governor is a goober Well, there's a lot of goobers, and this is you know so they're debating right now, and of course Cuomo is trying to come back And yeah, but he's coming back as a mayor. I thought it was for the governor No, no, this is the one wants to be mayor. Well the moment question is still valid But another question about gubernatorial is yes.

Well. This is about the mayor that I'm sorry what someone for some reason I mistook it for the gubernatorial race So this is they're doing the debates and Cuomo's in the debate And this is this by the way goes against everything that I just said earlier about people leaving the show because you know we we pander to the Jews for the Jew money Yes, where's our Jew money?

We may have gotten some spook money today, but we didn't get any Jew that I can tell that's no good Here is an interesting question posed to the candidates for mayor of New York City the first foreign visit by a Mayor of New York is always considered significant. Where would you go first? That's right First visit I would visit the Holy Land Okay, miss Lander mr..

Lander sorry Boy what Trump is doing to Canada There's a lot of opportunities for us to partner better with them miss Ramos I'd love to meet Claudia Scheinbaum, but I'd probably head to Colombia to my parents homeland good That was a good answer because you throw in a little bit of Jew there with Scheinbaum But you're gonna go to Colombia. That was good mr.. Byron. I am a proud son of two Caribbean immigrants I represent a robust Caribbean constituency.

I'd like to go to the Caribbean as my first visit. Yeah, you're off You're not gonna win mr.. Cuomo given the hostility and the anti-semitism that has been Shown in New York, I would go to Israel mr.. Tilson. Where would you go? Yeah, I'd make my fourth trip to Israel followed by my fifth trip to Ukraine He's doubling now he's gonna go for his fifth trip and then to Ukraine yes, mr.. Tilson. Where would you go?

Yeah, I'd make my fourth trip to Israel followed by my fifth trip to Ukraine two of our greatest allies Fighting on the front lines of the global war on terror mr.. Mom Donnie I would stay in New York City my plans are to address New Yorkers across the five boroughs and focus on that Mr.. Mom Donnie, can I just jump in I want to jump in you visit Israel Would you cross the five boroughs and focus on that mr.. Mom Donnie, can I just jump in would you visit Israel?

My mayor I will be doing as the mayor I'll be standing up for Jewish New Yorkers And I'll be meeting them wherever they are across the five boroughs whether that's in their synagogues and temples Or at their homes or at the subway platform because ultimately we need to focus on delivering on their concerns I'm just yes or no. Do you believe in a Jewish state of Israel?

I believe Israel has the right to exist Not as a Jewish state no as a state with equal rights He won't No no unlike Directly I believe every state should be a state of you wouldn't say it. He wouldn't say it. He's no good Man Wow what a bunch of rubes New York is done That was pretty I thought that was hilarious Yeah, oh You just won the Super Bowl. Where are you going Israel? Oh Miss America you just became the new Miss America. Where are you going Tel Aviv?

Well They could have gone to visit a Bulgarian old folks home because all hell's breaking loose there Oh, what's this Bulgarian old folks horror?

Bulgarian officials say they've rescued 75 residents from two illegal care homes Where they were allegedly subjected to brutal mistreatment They said the victims were beaten bound and sedated with doors and windows locked Justice Minister Georgi Georgieff described the facilities in the eastern village of Yagoda as houses of horrors Bulgaria has a shortage of good care homes for older people.

Oh my did they have pictures and video was the Beaten they take their old folks and they beat them Wow Bulgaria what are you doing? Is there a color revolution going on in Bulgaria? Is there an election coming up? No, no, nothing. Mm-hmm. Turns out that they does what they do to old people in Bulgaria. They beat him Coming to California soon. I hear now it could be a five -minute warning you get one or two more clips. It's all up to you Go, okay.

I have this there every once in a while There's one of these stories that comes up and it's always the same kind of a thing going on It's very suspicious story and they're gonna they're gonna these are all seem like spooky stories because they it's like you got somebody and you got a debrief them or you've got to Get him out of the country You got it You got a rescue him or something something like it's like a CIA guy and they always goes through and I have no idea why the

detainment centers in Louisiana Have you noticed as Louisiana think keeps cropping up no play this Russian. This is the Russian frog Smuggler.

Yes a Judge in Vermont today ordered the release of a Russian born scientist and Harvard researcher saying she was being unlawfully held by immigration authorities Ksenia Petrova who recently spoke to NewsHour from detention still faces a criminal charge of smuggling frog Embryos after she failed to declare them at Boston's Logan Airport in February Petrova says she uses them for research an immigration officer stripped Petrova of her visa and she was sent to an ice facility in

Louisiana at a hearing today judge Christina Reese said quote there does not seem to be either a factual or legal basis for the immigration officers actions That's what I was expected to face a bail hearing next week on the smuggling charge Okay, well that that is interesting I happen to know a couple of people here in Fredericksburg who moved recently from Louisiana And they grew up there so they may have some inside information for me I mean, there's ice detention centers all over the

place But these these super suspicious sounding stories like this one Russian woman a professor teaching Brings in some embryos. I don't know how they found those but they did Like a setup to be over to this facility in Louisiana, it's always, Louisiana They do they do ask at at customs, you know, do you have any? Plants animals or fruit and if you lie, then you get detained Yeah, but who's gonna how are you gonna do? You could it doesn't make sense. This whole story just makes no sense.

I don't see how anybody can't easily Take some frog embryos and stuff them in a coke can and take it through customs I mean or guys you can't get through because it's got liquid but that mean there's ways If you're smuggling frog embryos, it seems to me, you know what you're doing. Hey, hey Bullcrap embryos have got to go.

Hey, hey No Rest assured I am on the case of the Louisiana spookiness I will get answers several people who I know here have grown up there in the bayou in the swamps We have swamp people here. They will know what's going on. And we have some just horrible Non-musical pieces of crap coming up known as the end of show mixes You don't want I mean, why are you even still listening? You don't want to be exposed to that.

It may hurt you But before that we have the most wonderful tip of the day by John C Dvorak now this the tip of the day is its own entity. You could this should be a spin-off show Tip of the day show tip of the day show I'm telling you you now the but the problem is you'd have to do it every day, which you know Cuz it's yeah, otherwise it wouldn't be a tip of the day, but I guarantee you podcast Success. I'm thinking a podcast award. Maybe maybe even a webby Hey, which reminds me.

I saw it was watch looking at somebody's Wiki page I can't remember who it was, but they won it was one of just the Brando podcasters and they won a Podcasting award from some operation. It was listed on the wiki page for best audio sound. Oh, man That's what I said How many times do I have to say I'm good to go I'm on the pod father podcast awards and you just drop the ball on me I'm gonna have to pick it up. I'll pick up the ball. I read it.

Meanwhile pick up the ball She's moved way up to the top of the list here. She's in Sparks, Nevada, and she came in with a hundred thirty-five bucks And she says thanks for the tremendous value And spin down. I like that. We're spin downers Spin down That could be perceived as negative spin downers downers man I think that might hurt the show down that might hurt the show. We can't use that. No, it's gonna hurt the show as those mixes Paul Rouge, are you you GE?

I think that's how it's pronounced. He's in Fort Thomas, Kentucky. He came in with a hundred bucks A Kellen Prince It's a nice name in Hollywood, Florida hundred dollars Baroness night. She's in Edmonds, Washington. She's up to auntie.

She's always a $50 donor and she's up there to 100 So that's nice Kevin McLaughlin shows up at 800 80s They are stucco Luna lover of America lover of boobs And he says he's got a PSA here says summertime is the perfect time to show off your melons ladies No disagreement here the no agenda show, you know, I will say that our I Track this stuff our the number of people our female listeners is down has been it's down Turning to a couple of sexist jerk-offs as far as a lot

of the ladies are concerned well I mean that are they we know Tina's listening because the minute Right away, so you're wrong. You're wrong. You know what I'm talking about Yon brewer brooding to bring ink rethink Looking in schmilda Netherlands he came with 808 very famous very famous place. That's where The Moluccas hijacked a train in the 70s and killed the Moluccas, yeah Yeah, the Moluccas, maybe he wants to be jobs comer for his son Your yen, is that right?

You're young you're young Urien and that would be at the end if you can remember Why am I? Christian oh another Dutch pretty good Christy Christy answer Christy on And it's light in very good 8008 And he has a little note there. He's just got it's in green. He came in through stripe Stripe, he says thanks for sending some rain over to lighten.

Yeah, we did and he says I sent boobs in return It's a good combination if you ask me he says Adam next time, you know Next time it starts hailing golf balls put a drum kit outside.

Let me tell you if you look at Tina's insta I think she's Tina curry 33 You can hear what it sounds like and so we actually turns out we have a lot of damage We didn't know about the garage doors filled with pits Little bit dense dense little dance little dance We have a our screen We have a like the idea of putting a drum kit outside. We have it.

Oh, it would go right through the skins We have a screened-in porch We don't go out there much and when it's 95 degrees completely all the screens pelted with holes Yeah God damn stinks. I got damaged. Well, you got insurance. Oh, we're not we are not going to claim This for insurance, you know what'll happen We'll get kicked out of our insurance Stephen Hutto in st.

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It's a sad puppy sad looking in a dryer Oh pre Suicidal or something this this goes to my theory that people don't care what you do to other people But man, you do something to a dog. You're is it's the end of you This is the dogs in the dryer and somebody said one of the producers is that's in poor taste Scolding me for it Nancy Murphy came in twice. Okay. Well, she's actually 110 Trey Funderburg in Missoula, Montana 55 Troy Troy Funderburg Troy.

Yeah, I always do that Okay, here's another Dutchman. We're all lean from their hearts. Probably a Dutch girl in whole lots of girls We're all mean whole lots of felt 50 in Holland Chevette 5272 It's to say Brittany Miller also Women there women right here. Look at these women. Yeah. Yeah. Those are the two Nancy Rolene Brittany. Come on Christian Hart sock Burbank, California is one of our regular 5194. I did it. I Helped it. He'd substituted on OAN for Chanel over the weekend. Oh, really?

Yeah He's apparently a writer for OANN, you know Oh one American News Yeah. Oh cool. Hey Roger and I did I did it a hit get you did a hit on OAN Yeah, well, how come you didn't tell me I just did Yeah, but I mean did it go in advance? No You do do it's because you do so many podcasts and you never mention anything to me and then all of a sudden it shows Up in a donation note and I go what is this? So I'm doing the same I'm on the move John's doing PR everybody. He did a hit.

Oh, yeah Roger Cali check in Norcross, Georgia 5510.

He needs a de-douching You've been de -douched Ziya Thomas and Anne Kinney, Iowa 51 and now we got the $50 donors name and location starting with not a lot today Jacob Rotterman home brother rot trommel rot trommel in Decatur, Illinois Stephen Ray and Spokane Washington Ray Howard in Kremling, Colorado Edward, Missouri can Memphis Christopher Scott in Fort Washington, Pennsylvania Renee Bernhard Gurter if she's in sweet in Switzerland Bernhardt's good sir Bernhardt's good. They're good.

They're good. She's in sound galleon st. Gallen. She greets st. Bernard's And she's well, it was st. Bernard's are in Switzerland. Yes That's nice to have a Swiss donor. Then the that came in stripe. It'd be international. Yeah producers. They like like stripe Stripe is the way to go for international donations Calrae Jackson in Watertown, Tennessee and last on our list is a good old Jason DeLuzio in Miami Beach, Florida I want to thank all these people for show 1771 yes indeed.

Thank you all very much.

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However Title changes We do have a couple of title changes We got Sir Dirty Jersey Whore as you heard earlier our top executive producer today Who becomes a baronet Dame Nancy of the confused also changing her title today becoming a baroness Oh, yes, very very beautiful and Sir Dirty Jersey Whore also gets his PhD We have that special promotion which has come back for a limited time limited time only go to no agenda rings.com dirty jersey Or let us know where to send your PhD And if you

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We never built done in the value for value model Thank you, sir Daniel for that We got a report from Brussels the big Brussels meetup It seems like sarcastic the nomad was there by himself He did get one RSVP from Alex who lives in Brussels unfortunately his two Girlfriends from Colombia arrived early in Brussels And he decided decided to stay home with them, and he sent me a picture, and I think he made the right choice a Picture of Alex with his two Colombian

girlfriends doesn't sound so she brought their girlfriends to the meetup. I think so too But he didn't Big Tom's bar was a great venue unbeknownst to me.

It is a NATO hangout bar lots of spooky people drinking Belgian beer I'm always the maze what a drunk soldier will tell you Do tell sarcastic the nomad we'd love to hear more Answer dirty Jersey whore as you recall on the last show Excuse me for his meetup promo as a Texas the East Texas no agenda meetup We we excoriated him for sending in a two-minute meet a meetup promo you remember this You excoriated him. No you did too.

You said it should be 30 seconds tops I Did say that he sent us, but not in the form of an excoriation well? He sent us a new one it is 33 seconds exactly which I think is valid That's okay, and you put up with that and listen to this hey there freedom lovers and media deconstructors Wish you had someone to compare your shrunken amygdala with well do we have a meetup for you? It's all going down Sunday, June 29th at 333 p.m..

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It's a little spooky down there by the way it is an RSVP invited think it's at her home, so you've got a Check -in to be checked out and the night by the way to interrupt you in the middle of this of this I had to say the Jersey dirty whore Quickie was well done well done well done indeed the Northern Wake Freedom Southern Slammo Whammo six o'clock on Thursday at hoppy endings in Raleigh, North Carolina Make sure you check that out coming up the next week the 13th Copenhagen, Denmark

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It's always a party You All right now to make up for the end of show mixes We'll have a very snappy ISO for you at the end Which will just because that it truly is the last thing that people hear so this kind of discredits your theory It makes people happy they're like, oh this was great. I really loved hearing that end of show. I so I feel good about the show It's the end of a and the show I so come before the mix No, it comes at the very very end of the show.

Have you ever listened to the podcast? No, I never listened. I have to Okay, probably don't like that one But I kind of thought this one was okay. This doesn't make any sense. I'm freaking out inside You laugh through it this doesn't make any sense. I'm freaking out inside. I'm freaking out inside. Oh God, I liked it. If you took that part off, it would be good. This doesn't make any sense Like that. Yeah, I think that's that that beats mine. Well, let's listen to yours.

Thanks for spending your weekend with us Wow, that's AI if I ever heard one. Nope, really? Thanks for spending your weekend with us It's that black Chick, whatever her name is that does the weekend shows with Scott and other people? No, that's a real person No, you like mine better. This doesn't make any sense Like yeah, I like it Created by Dana Brunetti All right, this is the time of the year to plant Is it now not in Texas Well, it actually this would be fine in Texas, too This is a site.

It's called the chili pepper Institute And it is run out of New Mexico State University and they have they sell over a hundred varieties of hot chilies The seeds They're a little I think they're pricey. The seeds are a Pricer than I'd like but but there's five bucks a pack But there's some of the more the lots of scorpion peppers all kinds of screwball peppers. You've never had you don't see they're not commercial They're they're there and they claim that the seeds are all very viable.

So the you plant these seeds are going to grow And I would recommend planting some chilies And they have all they have all of them, but what they don't I'm sorry They don't have all of them because there's thousands, but they have over a hundred varieties Including a bunch of scorpion peppers don't have the Carolina Reaper for example I don't think that must actually copyrighted Carolina Reaper.

Well, it's a tough one, but the web I finally found a Website that you can that you can write down CPI for chili pepper Institute dot NMSU, New Mexico State University dot edu and And you click on the store online store and knock yourself out. What is the appropriate or best way to plant your chilies there's they have all kinds of information on the site they Grow like a tomato.

It's a tomato if you didn't know how to grow a tomato planting put those little those little Seedling pots and you know and put them in the window and get the thing started once it gets started you got it made Cuz once you grow you grow it indoors not outdoor you could know I would start it indoors And I would take it outdoors or you could just plant it outdoors if you can keep it So it germinates you got to make sure it germinates Make sure you germinate your peppers everybody there

it is once again a fantastic John C. Dvorak's tip of the day Just Anybody grows anything weird I mean because there's lots of weird peppers in here I send me a couple send John a couple of weird peppers Once you pick a peck of pickled peppers send them to Dvorak and that concludes our broadcast day everybody remember Just plug your eardrums because man.

We got sir Ducifer And sir scoby with end of show mixes oh no Johnson of Oroch says does better do better do does better that just be better I Like him, but I like all kinds of crap Coming up next on your no agenda stream.

We have the mere mortals book reviews Oh, he's this is adapt or die the youth spy who sparked a passion for discipline Hmm Stormbreaker book review, it's Kyron from Down Under doing that look forward to that and We will gladly be back with you on Thursday, and we'll bring you more multiple hours of media deconstruction Still waiting for it to kick off in Los Angeles or to pop off And I'm here in the part of the Texas Hill country in the morning everybody madam

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