1756 - "AG Barbie"

Turn the plane around. Adam Currie, John C. Dvorak. It's Thursday, April 17, 2025. This is your award-winning Kimmel Nation Media assassination episode 1756. This is no agenda. Behind the trade lines and broadcasting live, parallel to Runway 24 at Schiphol Airport in Amsterdam, the Netherlands. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Currie. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we want to bring back Eliane Gonzalez from Costa Rica. I'm John C. Dvorak. It's crackpot and buzzkill. In the morning.

Who, is that the guy in El Salvador? Remember Eliane Gonzalez? Oh, the kid, the kid. The little kid where they put a big gun in his face. And they took him out of the country. This is, I think, during Clinton or whenever. No, no, it was Obama. It was during Obama. Obama. Obama, okay. Yeah, it was Obama. And so they rousted this kid and shoved it. They just took him out of the country and sent him to Cuba. That was great. Nobody made a fuss about that. It was great.

No, it was a little bit of a fuss. Yeah, but not like the fuss we're getting over this guy. It was hilarious. That was so cool. If I recall, we had quite the field day with that. But Eliane Gonzalez? Yes, of course we did. Poor kid. When was that? Hold on a second. Nobody made a fuss about that kid. And they took him out of the country without a hearing. Hold on a second. He wasn't a gay hairdresser. We talked about, yeah, wait, 2020? No, 2016. Yeah, it was at the end of Obama. Let me see.

No, we talked about it then, but it was, maybe it was during, I don't know. It was during Clinton. Okay. Yeah, I think it was during Clinton. Holy crap. Well, that's before the show. It doesn't count. Oh, well. Anyway, I'm here in the Netherlands, John. Don't they sell like your next door? I know, the technology is amazing. And I have to tell you, even though I'm getting a little too old for this, going until one in the morning on jet lag, I'm very happy I came. We needed this for the show. Why?

Because I got a firsthand boots on. Our Dutch producers have not, or any of our EU producers for that matter, have not really been doing a good job of telling us what's going on here. Well, that is not much of a surprise. First of all, if you drive a Tesla in Europe, you are the biggest a-hole in the universe. People have bought other cars and parked their Tesla in the garage. They do not drive Teslas. And why might this be? Elon Musk. What's Elon Musk got to do with Europe? That's my point.

Going through the books over there? Is he over there? That's my point. They hate him just because you're supposed to hate him. People here. Well, first of all, it's very gray and depressing. That is not a big surprise. And that never helps. It can't be. It's April. April showers, May flowers. Come on. No, no, no. Remember, it always rains on Queen's Day or King's Day. So it's up until April 30th. No. No, it's gray and depressing. Uh, people hate Elon Musk. Why? It doesn't well.

Does the media have them under such control over there? Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. And yes, again. Wow. And, and I was. And the question is, why? How does the media get control to such an extreme that they care about Elon Musk as a, as a, uh, as a point of interest? That's the, that's the baffling part. But I went to, I'm here for two reasons. Um, of course, to see my daughter. I'll see her tomorrow. But I came for, uh, my buddy Lex's 80th birthday.

He was the guy who first hired me at Radio Veronica when I was 19 years old. We've remained friends and he decided to do a big party. 200 guests, handpicked, only, only special people, uh, Casablanca themed. And, uh, it was everybody from Dutch radio, television, and music. Anybody who was anybody was here. And Holy moly, they are completely mind controlled. But with it, with a little bit of a twist, I'll say with a little bit of a twist. But it has to be somewhat different.

No, no, no, no. So everybody's like, Hey, Adam, how you doing? Yeah, I'm doing great. Oh, you look good. Okay. Right after that. Hey, uh, you live in Texas? Yeah. Are you a Trump supporter? The Trump, Trump supporter? Everyone had the same question. Not did you vote for Trump? Are you a Trump supporter? I said, well, I support any president as far as I can. But yeah, I voted for him. And then you see their faces go, huh? You know, it's like the switch is flipped. But, uh, isn't he a racist?

What? John, I'm not kidding. And people just like they, they, they, they couldn't compute. They couldn't navigate me, the nice 19 year old kid they saw come in and who they knew for 40 years with someone who actually supports his president and might've voted for Trump. And you see the brain freeze occur. And he, yeah, but, uh, but, uh, but, uh, what is he doing? We don't understand what he's doing. Oh, okay. Calm down. Calm down.

And so he, and I, after two or three of these conversations, I, I figured out the switch and I figured out what's going on. So I said, let me just tell you why America voted for him. But wait, wait, it wasn't a landslide. Oh man. You can just see the media and these people are in media. So they're in the milieu. So that's all they're a part of. And this is what was so great about this. This is not taxi Eric who drives me around. Taxi Eric's like, we need a statue of Trump on damn square.

Okay, Eric, we understand that you, you get it. But these people in the milieu, they, they do not understand. They're, they're completely engulfed in it. And so then I would say, well, you know we have like 20 million people who came in illegally say 20 million to, yeah, that's probably about the right estimate. And a million of those are criminals. So we're getting those out. And everybody seems to be happy. The cities, everyone's happy with that. Oh, okay.

Okay. I said, and this gender ideology, you know, we have man, woman, no boys and girls sports and none of this DEI. And they go, oh yeah, yeah. And that, that would flip the switch. And they go, yeah, I wish we had someone who did that here. And there it was because they are so completely inundated, suppressed, told to shut up about immigration, about DEI gender ideology, about climate change still funny enough.

And, and, and until you explain to them what the big things were and they can all of a sudden identify, then they go, oh, then they get this kind of look of bewilderment. And then usually they'll say, well, well, you know but now we have to, you know, get a big military cause America's going to desert us and Russia's going to take over. At that point I gave up. Really? It's, it was sad. It was sad to see. And, and I think, you know, people kind of avoided me at certain times during the evening.

I bet they did. That guy's no good. He's crazy. And then, you know, then the Elon Musk stuff would come up like, what are you talking about? What has he done here? Well, you know, he's part of Trump. He's a Trump supporter. And meanwhile, here in the Netherlands, you know, they have Geert Wilders. This was the guy, right? He was, oh yes, he's our Dutch Trump. And, and nothing's happening.

They now, a law went into effect, which, what is the name of it, where they have to spread out the asylum seekers throughout the, throughout the country because it was only, you know, a couple of small villages, obviously down, way down south or way out east who got all these asylum seekers. So they have these asylum seeker centers and now they're spread out all over the country and people are losing their ever loving minds.

They're, they're burning down city, city halls, you know, little, in their little towns. They're throwing eggs at the city council and, and no one knows what to do. Farmers selling their big, beautiful dairy cows at auction because, whoop, sorry, nitrogen. I got too many points on my cows. Everything that, that, that Geert Wilders was supposed to stop is not, has not been stopped. It's a huge disappointment. Really bizarre. It sounds very dystopian.

Well, I'm sure that this is happening in every country in Europe. Here, the Dutch, look, look how far they went in Germany with all the hate speech stuff. England, where they throw somebody in jail for, for a tweet, a mom. So, and of course, you know, oh, everyone's, oh, Adams, Adams, he's a believer now. Yo, he's a, he's a, he's a Jesus freak. And so one or two came up to me and said- Well, you're lucky you didn't get locked up. Well, listen to this.

One or two came up to me, people, and I said, oh, I'm so, thank you for being so bold. I, it's really, it was nice to hear that. So what, what do you mean? Well, we have to be kind of quiet here about our Christian faith because Christians are now immediately associated with Israel and therefore you're genocidal. Yeah, that's the silence I had. Really? Yep. Who comes up with these schemes? Satan. Who else could be doing it? Thank you, Dana Carvey. Yeah, it's really, it's, it's messed up.

It's messed up. So- Well, the fact that these people are all hook, line, and sinkered, and you're dealing with an elite group because that party was a bunch of elitists, let's face it. But they are the media, so this is what's being perpetrated. And they're the media elite, which is worse. And they're all in, they're all in hook, line, and sinker.

Well, no, not exactly because when you, when you tell them the main points, and it's the exact same things they're going through here - Yeah, but superficially at least. Yeah. Because yeah, you have to talk them down. Yeah. But how long does that, how long do you think that works? When you leave? Oh, no, the minute I was gone, they were like, oh my God, can you believe? What's wrong with that guy? You might as well wear a swastika. Yeah, you might as well wear a swastika.

And then the next big thing here. Okay, everybody, attention, attention, everybody. Where am I? Attention, attention, everybody. Do not eat any backyard chickens or eggs. Don't eat the chickens or eggs. They are contaminated with PFAS. Remember PFAS? Yeah. That nonsense. What's it got to do with chickens? You can't eat the chickens. You can't eat your own chickens' eggs because they're probably contaminated with PFAS. Oh, PFAS. Oh, yeah, I heard about that. I am so sad. I'm so, so sad.

There's nothing more healthy than a backyard egg. No, not what is contaminated and seething with PFAS, whatever that is. Wow. Yeah, wow was... And then a guy I knew. I think you should take another trip or on the way. Too bad you can't make a side trip to England to see what a mess that's turned into. They won't let me in. I'm sure I'm on a list. Are you kidding me? Oh, there's that guy. He hurts people's feelings. Arrest him, roust him.

So speaking of, there was a very nice Turkish lady married to a guy. He's like a bank guy or something, speaking of elite. And this is his new wife. And so she doesn't speak Dutch, a little bit of Dutch. And as they're leaving, you know, and they're waiting for the car and I'm talking to her. And I said, so what's going on with Erdogan? She said, oh, it's crazy. Did you know, John, that there are three mayors who have been incarcerated? Not one, three. No, I only know about the one.

That's the only thing we've been told. Yeah, 180 teenage students who were demonstrating, incarcerated, not arrested. That, we did know that. They're in jail still. And she said, anybody who goes against Erdogan, boom, you're arrested, you're done. That's not really being, you know, that's not really being played up the way evil dictator Putin is. Which, by the way, they completely buy into. Oh, no. Yeah, we gotta, we gotta got our defenses going here. Because, you know, when you guys pull out.

Any minute now. And then there's the big NATO splash. The splash. You remember the NATO splash, which Margarita was telling us about? The NATO splash. Donald, come to the NATO Hague. We make a big splash. Well, this is making people happy. So they're going to shut down two major highways. How do you keep, did you write, take notes? Of course I did. Hey, I gotta deduct this. Material here. You've already overflowed the memory banks. But it's important.

So this is a big NATO summit meeting in the Hague. So they're going to be shutting down all your two big highways for, I think, two months. So you won't even be able to get to Scheveningen, which is one of the main piers on the on the coast. So no beach for you. You can't go to the miniature town, Majurodam, your favorite. That's not going to happen. Majurodam. Miniature town is my favorite. They're closing that for four months. So why? Because of the big splash.

So retail, of course, you know, these are the busiest months for them. Summer months. Nope, nope. All of that is screwed. They're putting Patriot and Stinger missile installations into the dunes. You know, because you never know. You never know what might happen. Someone might try to get those NATO guys. It's going to cost about 100 million euros. Wait, so what you're telling me is that because Trump's going to show up at a meeting at NATO and all the NATO guys are going to get together.

Who said Trump's going? I don't even think Trump will show. Why would he? I don't think he should. No, why would he? I would recommend against it. This is crazy. Yeah, so the Dutch... And then... And so their army... So what they're doing is they're fortifying. They're spending all this 100 million dollars to fortify the area in and around the meeting spot to prevent Putin from attacking. Yes, yes, of course. And destroying NATO on the spot because there's this opportunity. That's it. That's it.

You're right. And in the process, they're going to shut down all the businesses, all the highways, all the fun, all that miniature land and everything in between. Yeah, that's right. Really? Yeah. But wait. What idiots. But wait, there's more. What were the two things that... Well, there were two things that were promised definitely would happen with the formation of the European Union, which was you won't need a passport to get between all the countries in the European Union.

We'll have the same money. Don't worry. It's all going to be great. You'll have the same money. And we'll never, ever have a European army. Oops, we know that's broken. What was the other thing we'd never, ever have in the European Union? Uh, I don't know. A federal tax from Brussels. Oh, the federal tax. Oh, well, wouldn't you know it? 2027, everybody will now, in addition to your local country taxes, will have a EU tax. And this tax will be based on... Oh, what do you think it could be?

Whatever it is, it's not good. Your carbon footprint. No. Yes, based on the amount of gasoline you use in your car. Oh, well, that means that people, they have the great advantage in the 10-minute city. Yeah, well, that would be next. Based upon gasoline or diesel you put in your car, or they still use liquid petroleum gas sometimes here. I don't think that much anymore.

And any natural gas, if you are still one of those people who has, God forbid, natural gas, if you have a gas oven or a gas stove, well, you're going to get dinged. And I didn't know this, but they have already published the EU carbon permits price. This kind of snuck in, or I guess they approved a certain market. So currently, one ton of CO2 will cost you 67 euros.

But they say by the time the tax goes in, it could be between 100 and 200 euros a ton, which means most people would wind up paying between 300 and 500 euros a year extra just for the carbon tax. And that's always the beginning. So I don't blame these people for being in a bad mood. Yeah, they'd be... Anyway, yeah. In a bad mood. It's Musk's fault, by the way. Yeah, Musk, the guy who actually is trying to help you get away from your carbon tax. Oh, no. So, yeah, it was bizarre. Just bizarre.

Good to see everybody, though. I was the one smiling. Hey, everybody. I'm from Texas, y'all. That was the clincher. That would definitely be the clincher. I'm from Texas, y'all. From Texas. So, yeah. So that was my big travel report. Oh, one other thing. Yes, I forgot. As a part of the climate change, I had lunch with Tiffany, my sister, today. And she's saying, you know, yeah, because she and her husband, they like to travel. So, you know, it's easy. She works at Schiphol.

So she has all kinds of discounts and she can move around easily. And so they'll go to Spain or Italy for a couple of days, you know, whatever. Because she runs a couple of these stores here. So she has a pretty intense job. So she gets to take time off. And she says, but, you know, we don't have any, what was the term? Fliegschamte. Fliegschamte. Flying shame is a term here. Do you have flying shame? Flying shame. Does that have something to do with your carbon footprint? You bet.

The more you fly, the dirtier you are. You should be shamed of flying. They call it flying shame. Wow. Good show title. But it's okay for DiCaprio and the others with their private jets to be flying constantly all over the place for these climate summits. Don't try and bring any logic into the equation. That's really not going to help at all. Apparently not. In other news, they didn't blow up. No, I do have the Katy Perry commentary, though, which is kind of a blow up.

Okay, well, I have a couple of things I want to mention, but let's do your commentary. Katy Perry. This is what happens after you take a 12 minute flight into space. I don't know. They don't even get into space, really. They just kind of shoot up into the air. But I don't know what was the altitude they finally achieved. 80,000 feet, maybe. I don't know. Okay. I hope they can see the unity. That we modeled and replicate that and understand that we weren't just taking up space.

We were making space for the future. And for me, like Gail said, this wasn't a ride. It wasn't a destination. It was a journey. And it was a supernatural one. And my journey has always been about love and belonging. And I think that we have all felt that sometimes we weren't worthy or we didn't belong in certain ways, no matter all the accolades, no matter all the studying, no matter anything. And I think today we all said it like we belong here. This is where we belong.

And we feel very sure of that. So I think that you'll never know the amount of love that you have inside of you to give and to receive until the day you launch, because you're leaving all the love behind and you're surrendering and you're hoping that you get another chance to love them again. And so when you come back down, you're like, oh, I get another chance and I'm going to do it. Oh my God. Now I'm crying. Okay. That's your brain on drugs, children. You know, I'm going to go.

That is exactly right. I'm going to go. This is your brain on drugs. I got to go a little deeper on this one, because this was, of course, all about women, women being teams, women doing their thing, women being women, women being feminine, women being just the best in the world, making space, taking space. Here's an NBC report. Blasting off for 11 unforgettable minutes. The first all-female space crew in more than 60 years. One, two, three. Woo!

Including pop star Katy Perry and journalist Gayle King, along with Lauren Sanchez, the fiance of Blue Origin founder Jeff Bezos. The historic six marveling at the moon and the earth. And you look at it and you're like, we're all in this together. While floating for four minutes, Katy Perry, weightless with a daisy in hand. Her daughter's namesake. New Shepard's booster rocket landing first. This reusable booster that took them up now safely back on the ground.

The massive rocket ready for its next mission amid the space tourism boom. Then in front of a star-studded crowd, the astronauts all smiles back on earth. It's about making space for future women and taking up space and belonging. Amanda Nguyen, emotional. After becoming the first Vietnamese woman in space. She's a survivor of sexual assault, carrying aboard a painful reminder. And it's a hospital man. For anyone who's ever had to struggle through life circumstances that weren't their choice.

I want you to know that you will make it through. And those magical moments on board, the start of a shared space sisterhood. Celebrated amongst the stars. Amusement park ride. So this is all about women. It's about the women. Everything is woman. We are woman. Women, women, women of blue origin, team blue, women, women here. Female host woman. I don't know if that would ever get old if I were you guys to hear that I am an astronaut. And an unbelievable thing you guys can now say that you are.

We are going to hear from all of you guys in a second. But there are over 10,000 employees here at Blue Origin. There are so many people that have put their heart and soul and their brains into this operation to make it possible to do what you guys did today. How many times are you going to say you guys to this group of women? You guys, you guys, what happened to that not being a thing? Yeah, used to be condemned for saying that. You guys, you guys, it should be at least gals. No, I was.

That's worse. And then so first up is Sanchez. And I don't know. I don't know if she must have not had a chat with Jeff about about space. I mean, space is, you know, it's it's about getting out there and exploring new worlds and new civilizations and going to places and and learning about what where we possibly could move to. Am I right? Grab a few rocks. Isn't that kind of the idea of of privatized space flight?

It's to go out and and we're excited about, you know, maybe Mars or maybe return returning to the moon. Well, Sanchez didn't get the memo. Thank you so much, Audrey. There's so many things that I just thought about as I heard you speaking. And I want to get into it with all of you guys. Lauren, congratulations. I'm going to start with you in researching this entire process. I heard a lot about the overview effect, and it was something that I didn't know anything about, but the overview effects.

OK, so remember, it's supposed to be about going to new places, commercial space travel, the future, the world. This universe is our oyster. What I have learned that you now will be able to share to experience is because when people that go up to space and see from space, they come back and their perception of Earth is different. We have one planet because out there it's dark. It is, you know, William Shatner even said this when he went to space. And now I understand what he was talking about.

It's like death. And baby, baby, we're supposed to want people want to go out. Don't tell them it's death out there. No, it just made me want to come back with an open heart. And it really opened me wide open. And hopefully I can bring that to other people and also just protect this planet we're on. I mean, there's this is the only one we've got. So I'm utterly humbled by this experience. Wow. And and beyond grateful. Worst endorsement ever. It's death out there. That's a great.

I mean, you know, I'm going to give you a borderline borderline clip of the day for that. I'll take a borderline. Because what she's this is a negative sales pitch. It's like it's you were all doomed. This is the only planet. You don't really understand how doomed we are until you take this horrible trip. It's death. It's death. I tell you. Now, let's just talk about symbolism. So this rocket is called the new shepherd. Who was the old shepherd? The good shepherd. Jesus.

OK, so this is the new shepherd. Fine. Katy Perry's uniform, a Baphomet insignia on her uniform. There was? Yes. She's got she she holds up a monarch butterfly. Inside the castle. Yes. And by the way, the rocket's a dildo. We also we've all seen, we know that the market's a dildo. That's that's been long since established. And so I was I didn't catch it live. They had a dildo rocket on the back of a lot of these jerseys that they were wearing. Well, why not?

So it was kind of odd because I recall when Bezos went up the first time they had in capsule live footage and they didn't have that this time. You only had audio. And so by the time they got and maybe that was a just a what do they call it? A glitch. So you only had audio. And then by the time they got back down, then an hour or so later, they had some ink in, you know, the in capsule video of them floating around Katy Perry with her monarch butterfly. But they changed the audio.

Of I think I'm pretty sure it's Katy Perry of what she was screeching about when she was up in space. So this may be hard for you to hear. I don't know if the trolls be able to hear it. But and I'm not even going to tell you what she says. I don't want to put it into your mind. But she'll say it twice. Now, what did you like, goddess? Yes, of course. Of course, to the evil goddess. Oh, that's interesting. And that has been cut out of the of the video they've published.

You only hear an oh, my goodness. So play it again. I would have to look at the moon. Look. Now, if you play it backwards, she says, hail Satan. But but I'm telling you, I hear anything you play backwards. So but this this is creepy. You know, she used to be a gospel singer. She completely and there's some some interview of her out there saying, I was a gospel singer. And I love the church. You know, I had a friend.

I don't have a friend of mine used to work in her managerial crew or something for Katy Perry. Katy Perry. And he he told me that she was she had told him that she would sell herself to any she was just anything to be famous. She would give up anything. Well, she made a big fuss about this. Well, she's obviously this is what happened. Yes, this I don't think it's even a question, which is why I was joking about, you know, being a Satanist. No, it's not a joke. It's not a joke.

And then add in the MK Ultra monarch butterfly and all of the symbolism. And seriously, if you look at a uniform bafflement, it's getting a little thick. It's too much. We're catching on. Back off, lady. Back off. Exactly. Back off. Even bafflement would have her back off. Yes, the devil always overplays his hand. And it's true. Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, we can go lots of places from here. I think we've handled that. Did you see Tucker by any chance?

I did not see Tucker, but I know he talked to a couple of interesting people lately. Do you have some clips that we should be listening? Yeah, I do. He talked to Kurt Weldon, who was actually, I think it was a pretty powerful Republican representative around 9-11. Oh, he's the one who discussed 9-11? Yes. And the whole episode is completely worth listening to. So I just pulled a couple of clips. It's just a flavor, just a taste of what it is.

But it's very interesting that he, at this point, when everyone's so focused on JFK, RFK, MLK, Epstein, he's saying, no, no, we've got to open up the true files on 9 -11. And he just went all off on it. Do I think 9-11 is going to be the biggest scandal in our lifetime and beyond? Yes, I think it's going to be the biggest scandal in the history of America because it occurred on U.S. soil and because it is so recent that we have relevant information still available. That's right.

We have recorded information. We have personal information. Once people realize they can talk and not be afraid of being killed or not being afraid of being ostracized. And you know what gets me is reporters who call people conspiracy theorists. Well, that's all the agency does. They're the ones who create the conspiracies. I'm aware. I mean, cut me a break. I'm aware. They have whole courses for their agents on how to make people look like they're conspiracy theorists.

And the propaganda operations they find to discredit. Exactly. Right. And all we want is the truth. Of course. So Trump, appoint people of impeccable integrity. Let them study the facts. I will testify under oath everything I know about intelligence. Let these 3,000 architects who are risking their careers, making nothing, let them testify under oath. So they really just he started a big ruckus after this happened, after the 9-11 report came out, even before that.

And so they, you know, they really took this guy down. He's got a whole story about that. And he goes into who made money off of this. And of course, you know, there was the the Iraq invasion, etc. But in this in these clips, he focuses on, you know, what can we prove? And of course, we all heard the explosions. It's kind of interesting that, you know, I think Tucker is even surprised. Has he not seen any of the Alex Jones four hour long movies? I mean, come on, everyone my age has seen these.

There has been this subtle pressure to the firefighters and to the officers not to talk for obvious reasons. You know what this involves politically. Look what happened to the chief of L .A. The female chief of L.A. comes out and says that the resources were taken away from her for the field forest fires. And what does the mayor do? She fires her. That was just a few weeks ago. The firefighters are always a scapegoat. That's why, Tucker, I'm done with this. It was the last thing I do.

Firefighters are not going to be taken for granted anymore. We're going to rise up. We're going to shake the country to its roots. Firefighters are not second class citizens. Well, they certainly shouldn't be. But if they talk, they'll get sidelined. They'll be called crazies, even though they heard explosions. They can't be they can't be allowed to say that they heard explosions. Yeah, absolutely. It's on tape. What people coming out of the buildings? I know, I know.

I mean, the number of people that said they heard explosions right after the event is numerous. Forget Alex Jones. It was on NBC. They're all on television saying they heard explosions, explosions. We have film footage. And people didn't know. This is bullcrap. What the Tucker didn't know. Something's fishy about Tucker being aghast at this. Everybody heard these guys talking about explosions, whether they believed it or not.

You know, Tucker is the first to say, and I think even says it in the last clip, that he's embarrassed that he was all in. He told people who said Building 7, you know, was imploded. He called them nut jobs. He does say that. Having seen these people last night reminded me when you're in that milieu, he was at CNN at the time. What do you think he was supposed to believe? You know, he heard it from insiders, from sources say, from his colleagues, from the top brass. Why would he question it?

I'm going to give him a half pass. That heard explosions. We have film footage of people that talked to Fox News that was taken off the air. And then now it was brought back by X. That's all available. That's why you need a commission to go back and look at all the lies. And pardon my ignorance, but there are people on tape saying I heard explosions. Yes, absolutely. 100 percent. There's gambling going on there. I can't believe it. Hold on a second.

I have to back you off on this idea that, OK, he was working for CNN at the time. But since then, where has he been that he's that he's shocked? This this interview was like within the last week. So until within the last week, yeah, he still hasn't heard about somebody talking about the explosions. You know, remember, this is the guy who the NSA spied on him when he was trying to go to. I think he was Priya.

I'm just still going to give him a quarter pass now that he was being spied on by NSA, that he was going to Russia. They released his text messages. So he may just not. He was looking at JFK, RFK, MLK, Epstein. Maybe it just wasn't top of mind. Here's the last clip. They're the only high rise buildings in the world that have ever come down from an airplane hitting them. And those buildings, I read the report from the architect who designed them.

They were designed to withstand an airplane hitting the building and standing tall. And especially building seven, which had no plane hit it right. No plane hit it. And the building just you can see it when you watch it on TV. It just implodes straight down. And what really got me again was Oriel Palmer, the battalion chief arising on the... Well, tell us who he was. What is... Oriel Palmer was one of the most inspirational battalion chiefs in New York. FDNY.

FDNY, who immediately in very good shape, had a family, a couple of... What was that, by the way? FDNY? What is that? That was an odd little thing to throw in there. It's like a code. Yeah, yeah. Something going on there. Oriel Palmer was one of the most inspirational battalion chiefs in New York. FDNY. FDNY, who immediately in very good shape, had a family, a couple of kids. Went into the building as soon as they got on the scene. Took the elevator up to the 40th floor.

Got off the elevator, and you can hear him on the comms system saying, I'm here, 40th floor. We're going to start walking up the stairwells. Every five floors, he radios back to communicate. I'm on the 50th floor. Everything's okay. We're on floor 60. Everything's okay. He's going up every so many floors. He gives a report. He reaches the 78th floor, the floor of impact.

He comes out of the stair tower, and as clear as you listening to me here, and I know I get passionate, and I apologize to the arresters for that. He says, we're on floor 78, the floor of impact. We've got two fires, and we can handle them. One minute later, the whole building collapses. That's not normal. That is not acceptable. That is not what happened, and this is on tape. It's on tape. It's on tape. Yeah, the whole interview was good.

I mean, he doesn't really- Did they bring up the point about my favorite one, which is on building seven, where they had the guy on mic on one of the networks saying, pull it. The BBC. It was the BBC. It was the BBC. Pull it, and they dropped the building. First, the BBC is saying, building seven has collapsed, but it was 20 minutes before it collapsed. You see the BBC person with building seven in the background.

Then they have, now, I don't know where that tape came from, that one, but I've heard it too. Pull it, pull it. Yeah, were they're going to pull it? Yeah, I'm a little fuzzy on it too. It was, after all, 24 years ago. But yeah, that's what we all should be moaning about. Forget the Epstein files. No. Sorry. No, no. Did you hear that there's a book coming out about Bill Gates? Yeah, if I can imagine. Yeah, the book, let me see, what is it? I think The Economist reported on this today.

And that they had to hide the young interns from Bill Gates. Well, that's not news to the No Agenda Show listeners. But in Redmond, are they talking about his normal, Bill's normal activities? They used to be, I'll give you a story. Let me read the headline first so we can set this up. There's a new book coming out called Billionaire Nerd Savior King, Bill Gates and His Quest to Shape Our World.

And so the big headline is Bill Gates' infidelity, in quotes, saw Microsoft management keep young interns away from the tech mogul. The guy who was just doing business, just trying to get a deal done with the Jeffrey Epstein. Nothing more, just some business. So here comes John's story, everybody. Well, so before Bill was married to Melinda, who's now having issues with her psychology. I don't know what, I sent you a link. Oh, I didn't get that. He used to go out.

He used to take and bed as many of the cuties as he could at the company. And of course, the word was he liked small, petite blondes was his real goal. And because it would cause a stir in the executive suites, they would give these, because the girls would be mad because they never see Bill again. And he was not a, you know... He was not a good follow-up guy is what you're saying? Not a follow-up guy. And so they start to make a fuss and they'd ship the girls to Australia.

Microsoft Australia and with a lucrative job. Good day, mate. And they say, would you like... And to the point, now this is of all Microsoft folklore, and I'm pretty sure it's true, because I heard it from more than one person. Some of the new girls would come in and this word got around. And so they start to wear t-shirts and said, hey, Bill, pick me because they wanted to go to Australia. Now, I'd like to have one of these.

There's got to be some woman out there who actually was shipped to Australia. Well, what we want is one of those t-shirts. That's another collectible I don't have. That's the collectible. Tell me we aren't the best podcast in the universe. Where else will you get a boots on the ground story like that? That one, by the way, I've heard Bill Gates stories from you, but I do not remember the hey, Bill, pick me t-shirts. Yeah, hey, Bill, pick me. I went on a trip to Australia.

The older you get, the more good stories come out. I'm kind of digging this. I got a million of them. They get old. You know, the stories, oh, I woke up today. Well, first of all, you woke up. It's a good day, everybody. Believe me, it's a huge plus. It's a good day. OK, so I got a tune in my head, you know, you get a tune worm, you know, a little earworm, a diddy. You got a little where this came from is beyond me. But when I still until about I took about two or three hours to get rid of it.

It was hearing Frankie Valley singing Two Faces Have I. What song? The Four Seasons song. I don't know the faces. Have I want to laugh and want to cry? And I haven't heard that song for 30 years. And I'm now I'm hearing everything. And once you get the hang of listening or hearing that song in your head, you get to all the lyrics. And, you know, pretty soon I had the whole song down. Wow. In falsetto. But what's interesting is that I know a lot of Frankie Valley songs. I can't remember.

I know Lou Christie. Sure it's not Lou Christie. Two Faces Have I want to laugh and want to cry. Oh, well, let's do do it quick. Well, well, here's a here's a. I don't want the world to know. That sounds like Frankie Valley, but that's actually Lou Christie. I don't want my heart to show. Oh, Two Faces Have I. Well, we need a remake. That's the song. That's the song. And I because of the voice, I have to say. I'll give you a pass. Yeah, you would say you would think Frankie Valley for sure.

Yeah, that's what I was hearing. I was hearing the song. I didn't you know, I didn't have by Frankie Valley. But that's what I didn't realize that Lou Christie saying that, because that's that's a Frankie Valley song if ever there was. Now, did you take a gummy last night before you went to bed? No, I did not. I haven't had a gummy for years. Oh, how we miss those days. John and his gummies. That's a great song, by the way. Lou Christie. I pretend that I'm happy.

I like the Alvin and the Chipmunks in the background. That's great. That was the era of the falsetto. Yes, later brought back by the Bee Gees in my day. Yeah, but that that was the end of it. Oh, yeah, it had to end. It had to end. Well, it's a hard thing to do. It's hard to sing with that voice. Oh, well, as far as I'm concerned, we're done. This is a great show. I think we've we've nailed it. We nailed it. What more do you need to talk about? Since we're talking about drugs. Oh, yes.

I have a couple of ketamine clips that I thought were fascinating. OK, I didn't know ketamine was still in the news, but maybe this is related to Elon. Is that what? Well, Elon comes to mind, obviously, and others. Yes, Kevin Rose. We know personally. Yeah, Kevin Rose. He's not bashful about it. We can say it. He does a whole show about it. It's always it's always. Disturbing to me when somebody is bragging about a drug.

Yeah. But this is an interesting they're doing, they did a bunch of studies on on giving unknowingly giving. Like, well, I guess they signed off on something. But people had a traumatic operation that was of some sort. They would give them ketamine besides the the anesthetic. And they would. It's a pharmaceutical. I mean, it's it's. Yeah, that's what it's used for. Yes. What's for?

And so they come out of it and then they get they they had these psychologists that would ask them about what they're how they feel now and how they then they talk about the ketamine. You got some ketamine. How do you feel better? And they went on and on about it. And and I think it revealed a couple of interesting facts. So in the group that did get ketamine, 60 percent of those patients felt better the day after surgery.

And most of those people had stayed better when the researchers checked on them two weeks later. Wow. So for context, you know, this is much faster than something like Prozac or Zoloft, which could take at least a month to see results and has to be taken every single day. Right. So Boris, as they figured out, what is it? What is it? Right. Oh, wow. Is this new at NPR? NPR thing where you get that these these wannabe podcasters that are on the air and they're chatting it out.

Yeah. It sounds like Notebook LM. Oh, wow. Yeah. Deep dive. Mm hmm. Uh huh. Yeah. And it has to be taken every single day. Mm hmm. Right. So Boris, as they figured, OK, ketamine works even under anesthesia. So even if the patient doesn't know that they actually got it. So so it wasn't just Cindy who felt better. Boris told me about a different patient, not Cindy. He also talked to. This was like her, you know, and like fifth, like cancer surgery, like this has been a recurrent cancer.

He saw this patient a couple of days after her surgery. She was almost like dancing. This is, you know, someone who had like a lot of stuff in their belly, like still had drains, bandages. She was like, you know, it was infectious. I thought to myself at the time, like if she didn't get ketamine, like I'm quitting. Like, I don't know. Like or or even I mean, in retrospect, it was more like I want to know what's like what we did.

So I got to the placebo group after I made that decision, like this guy is on ketamine. I can tell he's like. That's a good point. Yeah. Oh, like or or eve, I mean, in retrospect, it was more like I want to know what's like what we did, so we could do it again. And she was at the placebo group. That's good. So statistically, there was no difference between people who got ketamine and people who got placebo. Forrest told me the people who got placebo. They got so much better.

They were indistinguishable from the patients who got ketamine. And even Cindy, who did get ketamine and did feel like it helped her depression symptoms, told me she thought about whether it was really the drug that helped her or other parts of the study. Wow. Like what was it that really made her feel better? Wow. Well, they finally do a placebo study and what are they doing on ketamine? I have a couple other drugs I'd like you to try that on. Let's listen to the second part of this.

So you're saying that even though she got ketamine, her feeling better could also have been like related to these other parts of the experience, like working closely with Forrest and like feeling like people are actually like listening to her. Exactly. And she told me that she wondered like how far would it take other people who were struggling with something like depression if they just had the same kind of support that she got from Boris and her surgery team?

Who doesn't respond to love and kindness, right? Boris told me that a lot of patients seem to think that if they felt better, they probably got ketamine even if they didn't, which to him points to this expectation or hope that patients might have about being in a study where they might get some kind of drug at all. You know, there's a lot of the same reactions like, well, I you know, I can't explain it either. But this it's important. It's you know, I got I got better.

In some cases, they stayed better. But that could have just been the placebo effect. Yeah. I mean, that's what Boris is saying. And what he really emphasized to me is that placebo can sort of be seen as this fake thing or a sign of failure in a study. But there's science supporting its effectiveness. It can actually change our brain chemistry, but people often see it as this imaginary treatment. Imaginary is like something that doesn't exist. This is a real thing.

And placebo has real biology behind it. And it is one of the most valuable treatments we have in medicine. Full stop. Wow. It's like that expectation. Well, there you go. That's an interesting twist to the story. That's what I thought. Huh. So I guess. Well, you know, NPR is not I don't think they're in on the springtime big pharma buy. There may be true. Everybody else was. The point. Yes. And but the point of that whole discussion and it went on, there was just a piece of a longer piece.

And it was that it may be the placebo plus the attention. Yeah. Is all it really took to get people back on track. And Ketamine doesn't do jack except for the dissociative stuff that it does do to people that does have a psychedelic effect. So maybe but maybe a lot of these like Zoloft and Xanax and by the way, I've tried a Xanax and like nothing for me. And I used to be a professional drug user. I mean, this is nothing.

It takes like they say, it takes a long time before it catches up to you know that you're supposed to take a Xanax and I feel so loose. Maybe a lot of these drugs are just so you can say, oh, I've got to take my meds. Oh, I just took my meds. It could be. It's very possible. This study sounds like it makes it sound like that. It's like the placebo effect and it might as well give you nothing.

So we had the big the big pharma buy the springtime buy and and the buy was not specifically for any medication, but it was to basically say autism is not caused by vaccines. Everybody had the story. We begin here tonight with a mystery, a mystery of autism, the developmental condition that can affect the ability to communicate and interact socially. We're beginning with it because the CDC is reporting a sharp rise in the number of children who have it.

More than three percent of eight year olds. And because today the secretary of Health and Human Services, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., called the rate of autism alarming and ordered up studies to determine the cause by September, something scientists have been working on for decades. There are clues, but no conclusions. We're joined now by CBS News medical contributor Dr. Celine Gowder.

So today, Secretary Kennedy announced that we were going to be as a country investing more money through the NIH to research the causes of autism. He has previously stated that by September we would have some definitive answers. It is extremely unlikely we're going to be getting there. And we'll talk about that more after the story. But I think it was very interesting that he did not mention vaccines at the press conference today, which was, of course, what everybody kept saying last week.

He says it's because of vaccines is because I don't think he's actually said that. He's spoken of mercury and that would come into adjuvants, which I don't think is being used much anymore. But they all were so convinced. Oh, he says it's because of vaccines. And then he didn't say it. What? The ASD prevalence rate in eight year olds is now one in thirty one.

Shocking. Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., pointed to new evidence that the U.S. is seeing, in his words, a growing epidemic of autism. The epidemic is in his words. Notice that it's not from the CDC. Oh, no, is in his words. It's a growing epidemic of autism. The epidemic is real. CDC data shows one out of thirty one children has been identified with autism. The previous report two years earlier found a rate of one in thirty six.

If the epidemic is an artifact, oh, stop, stop. I got this clip to visit. What's interesting is they they they drop it from one to thirty six to one thirty one and they refuse to mention the one in one hundred thousand number. Oh, from from 1990, 1970 or whatever it was. Yeah, it was like maybe 1990, actually, maybe that recent. But the number starts off at one in one hundred thousand. And then it went to one in five hundred or something.

I think they actually have those, but not from the one in one. But they're not all these reports. Leave that out. Yeah. Well, hello. They push. They push the following. They push. Well, it was one in thirty six. Now it's one thirty one. So it's just minor. And you went from here to there. Yeah, that's they leave out the big giant numbers. That's the trick. That's the trick. Or found a rate of one in thirty six.

If the epidemic is an artifact, a better diagnostic criteria or better recognition, then why are we not saying seeing it in older people? Why is this only happening in young people? The American Academy of Pediatrics has disputed Kennedy's characterization. Attributing rising rates to the fact that more children have access to evaluations. And I think there is more awareness. But clearly there's something. Stop. So that was a contradiction of what they just reported.

Kennedy's made the point, which they don't emphasize, which is that if it's true that it's just a difference in diagnosis, then how can we don't see it in the misdiagnosed adults that are living and floating around today to the extent that we're seeing it in kids? Because they're all high on placebo effect. That's why they're all left out of it. And so then they see immediately this woman doing this report. She immediately drops. Is this the doctor? Yeah, Celine Gounder.

Yeah. She she drops that little tidbit and skips it. Yeah. And then goes on with it, with taking it further into the wrong direction. Yeah. Yeah. So. So Chloe, how do you have that? I would say that, you know, I am in a position to've just been told that she has a misdirection effect. but today I was told that her diagnosis was a misdirection effect. and I know that she is a misdirection expert. are true kids with autism spectrum disorders. And you wouldn't have missed them.

Kennedy has for years promoted a link between vaccines and autism. That theory has been debunked. Notice how they always say debunked instead of saying scientifically proven, even saying there is no evidence. They always, with this particular one, they always say debunked. What is the actual translation? What is the meaning of debunked? That's not the only issue that they use the word debunked to an extreme for. There was another one that just came up recently, they said it was debunked.

Well, so it means, to debunk means to expose the falseness or sham of something. So it's more than just not true, it's a sham. Yeah, like a hoax. Yes, yes. Which is, it's questionable that they use that term every single time. I agree, now that you mention it. I didn't think about it, but now that you mention it, I think you're right. You're right. Whoa, everybody, write it down. Write it down. That is what we call the gazebo effect.

Kennedy has for years promoted a link between vaccines and autism. That theory has been debunked. The secretary announced plans. I like that. Do a little nat pop. That has been debunked. Oh, that was interesting. Clap, clap, clap, clap, yes, good. This is good. You wouldn't have picked that up on the television, it would have been subconscious. I didn't even hear it the first time I listened to this. Kennedy has for years promoted a link between vaccines and autism.

That theory has been debunked. The secretary announced. Isn't that great? That's unbelievable, this woman is the worst. Vaccines and autism, that theory has been debunked. The secretary announced plans for new studies to identify environmental causes for the rise in autism rates, such as mold, ultrasounds, obesity, and diabetes. In his comments today, he did not mention vaccines as a possible cause. Oh no, we have nothing to moan about, let's keep going.

Dr. Gander, can you get an answer by the fall to these kinds of complex questions? No, of course not. This is a very complicated question, what causes autism? It's multifactorial, there's genetics, there's environmental causes. Multifactorial, yes. They don't know what causes it, I think that's the premise of this whole presentation. But now all of a sudden it's multifactorial? Yes, it's multifactorial. If you don't know what causes it, how can you make that claim?

Well, she's Dr. Selene Grounder. Multifactorial, why are you questioning it? Are you on the television? No. There's genetics, there's environmental causes, there's other causes probably too. To tease that out, the number of people you need to study over time, I mean if you take for instance the example of smoking and lung cancer, that's actually a pretty straight correlation and that took years, decades to prove that. So to sort this out for autism, not by September. Hold on.

Excellent point, because big pharma, big tobacco was buying everybody off, that's why it took, great comparison. Excellent comparison. Exactly, that's a perfect comparison. Actually, inadvertently she made a perfect comparison. They've been bought off. These people, they overplay their hand. When it comes to potential causes that'll actually be studied, does that include vaccines in any way, shape or form? Well, it's interesting, he did not mention vaccines again during today's press conference.

But he also said that he does not want researchers to feel constrained in terms of what questions they can be asking. The specific things he mentioned included ultrasounds, obesity, older age of parents, exposure to air pollution and plastics. So there are a lot of different things that could potentially be studied through this research. That was CBS and I have a much shorter, just one clip from ABC and one from NBC. Because remember, this was the springtime buy.

Authorities at the CDC are trying to explain what. Authorities, just listen to what they're saying. Authorities, oh, who am I to question authority? Authorities at the CDC are trying to explain what's behind new numbers tonight, showing that one out of every 31 children in America was diagnosed with some measure of autism in 2022. The latest figure is available. You are right. By the way, John, you are right. This was the buy.

The buy was, we're going to make it look like a little increase from one in 36 to one in 31. That's our report, that's the news, that's the story. So yes, there has been an increase, but it's only, you know, one in five. You nailed it. You nailed it. That's what the springtime buy. I nailed it. That's what the springtime buy was about. Those numbers were one in every 36 children just two years earlier, and one out of every 150 children in the year 2000.

And the report shows that autism was much more common in boys than girls. U.S. Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy, who for years as a civilian, helped blame autism on the use of vaccines, is underlining the new numbers tonight. Wait, stop. What did he say? He helped blame? I think that's what he said. What was the phrase he used before blame? The word before he used the word blame. What was that? Let's listen. And the report shows that autism was much more common in boys than girls.

U.S. Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy, who for years as a civilian, helped blame autism on the use of vaccines. Helped. Helped blame. Helped blame? Yes, helped blame. He helped blame. What structure is that? Oh, that's ABC News, baby. I helped blame. That's the house of Peter Jennings. Why do you question these things? Civilian helped blame autism on the use of vaccines is underlining the new numbers tonight. His take on this has been rejected by the world medical community.

Oh, the world medical community. Can I become a member of this community? The world medical community. It's not like the World Health Organization. The world, oh, the world, oh, wait, hold on a second, everybody. The world health community. Rejected by the world medical community. Oh, medical, sorry. In my generation today, the rate of autism is one in 10,000. And this is just one disease.

Other health officials this evening are explaining that the larger numbers are because parents and doctors are now much more aware of the disease and are now correctly identifying more symptoms. Not a reason, they say, to buy into unproven theories that discourage Americans from using vaccines. So now we have better diagnosis. Now notice here they say unproven theories. They're not saying disproven, scientifically proven not to be so, or even debunked. They just say unproven theories.

You have not proved your theory, so go home. Americans from using vaccines. So now we have better diagnosis, broader recognition of autism spectrum. So many children with less severe learning and behavior differences are being included in these new rates. Autism is not new and it is not caused by vaccines. There you go, the bias completes and send out the bill. They don't know what causes it, but it's not caused by vaccines. No, it's not. Whatever it is. If they don't know what's causing it.

How do they know what's not causing it? How do they know exactly? They don't know what's causing it, so they can't say it's not caused by vaccines as a flat statement. You question. You're right. Again, you're right. This is a drug buy of all the networks and they had this talking points had to be included and they all gave a report. I bet you if you timed out the reports, they're all advertising length. About 60 minutes, 60 seconds, yeah. With a pre and post roll. Here's the NBC version.

It is a little bit longer. Maybe they got a double buy. The CDC says one in 31 eight-year -olds were identified with autism spectrum disorder in 2022, up from one in 36 two years earlier. All right, we got that one. Check that one off the list. Boys were- He essentially stopped it. And they're all doing this as the same exact points they're trying to make each time. Why don't they have any numbers from 19, 2023 or even 2024 for that matter, but that means it's already six months into 2025.

Why is it the numbers go back to 2022 and there's nothing from 2023? I'd like to know. Did they explain that? Of course not. No, please. Up from one in 36 two years earlier. Boys were more than three times as likely as girls to be identified with autism, minority children more than whites. Almost 40% of the kids also have an intellectual disability. Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. today, calling autism an epidemic.

This whole generation of kids is damaged by chronic disease. Dr. Alex Colvison of New York's Sever Autism Center disagrees with Kennedy's diagnosis. Is this report an accurate representation of how prevalent autism is in the US? No, I don't think it is. I don't think we have an epidemic of autism. I think that there are a number of factors that are driving the increase in prevalence. Such as?

Such as broadening diagnostic criteria, perhaps younger age of diagnosis, and getting the diagnosis as a means of getting services, which are important for kids. Okay, you can get your drink coupons and your check at the end of the day. Thank you very much for appearing on our show. And he vehemently disagrees with Kennedy's past attempts to link autism to vaccines. The one thing we know with certainty is that vaccines do not cause autism. How do we know this from certainty?

You don't know what causes it, but you know what doesn't cause it. This makes zero sense. You know, we have an epidemic of propaganda. That's what we have, ladies and gentlemen. It's an epidemic of bull crap. Vaccines. The one thing we know with certainty is that vaccines do not cause autism. This has been studied extensively across multiple continents, and it's been well-established in the scientific community. No, it hasn't. Science shows genetics is a political game.

I mean, Lamb blogs about raising two children with autism while being on the spectrum herself. Oh, it's not just a statistic. What example they found. Yeah, I gave it to my kid. That's what they say. Oh, you horrible mother. Autism while being on the spectrum herself. Well, it's not just a statistic to us. It's more like a call to action. As parents and science try to unlock the mysteries of the mind. Ah, the mysteries of the mind.

Wow. Yeah. And of course, the real problem here is that- By the way, just to interrupt. They, what we just witnessed with these clips, this is where it's headed because they're going to pull the plug. It looks like it's going to happen within the next six months. Pull the plug on advertising by pharma companies and to keep their hooks into the big media companies instead of doing advertising, they're going to be doing this more and more and more. Oh, interesting. Don't you think?

Now- Gotta do something. You've heard for certain that they're going to pull the plug? Yeah. Hmm. It's been dropped as a, feelers have been dropped into here and there. It's going to, they're going to pull the plug. Prognosticated. Now, the big problem is that they expanded the definition of autism to ASD, Autism Spectrum Disorder. I'm on the spectrum. I had Tourette's, I'm on the spectrum. Yes, and you yourself believe it was from a shot. Yes, totally. Happened at seven years old.

Hmm, what happened at seven? I think I got some more shots when I went to Europe. Yes. So that just confuses everything because you have severe autism, what you and I would recognize. You also got kids walking around on their tippy toes and twirling. That's autism. Okay. Kids on the tippy toes twirling. That's what some kids do, the stupid stuff. So all of that is on the spectrum. You know, and some kids are geniuses. And oh, he's too interested in Lego blocks. He's on the spectrum.

Yeah, and by the way, some interesting, a lot of these kids are interesting. Now you do have severe autism for sure. And real retardation of mental capacity. And we have family members where that happens. Shot, kid got, you know, still living at home, 30 years old. Yeah, that's horrific. Anyway, you and I are not gonna solve it, my friend. Nope, but we can sure ridicule these reports. Yeah, that's easy to do. Well, it's easy to do, but nobody does it. No. If you haven't noticed.

Yeah. No, people are too busy trying to debunk Macron's married to a dude. That's what everyone's. Let's talk about it. Blake Lively, let's talk about Blake Lively. Blake Lively. Yeah. Okay. I have a clip that, getting to our guy, our buddy in poster, Salvador, I don't know where he is. Oh yeah, he's in the. And by the way, that guy. He's got a shaven head. What is his name, Garcia? I can't remember. Elion, Elion Gonzalez.

Elion Gonzalez. First of all, I thought first he was a gay hairdresser, then he was a gay makeup guy. Now he's a father, a Maryland father with three kids. What happened to the gay part? That person disappeared. Yeah, that was the messaging that they were throwing at us and then trying to maybe get gay sympathy or something. I'm not sure what the methodology was. They even got Rogan on that one. Rogan was like, oh, they deported a gay hairdresser. They got to pull that back. Let me see, deport.

Maybe, was that a completely different story? I don't know. Maybe it was, but whatever the case is, I thought this guy was the gay hairdresser. Well, he is now. Well, he's probably. Gay Venezuelan stylist sent to Salvadorian prison after disgraced cop's report. This is from Milwaukee. Well, that guy, nothing ever happened. That story, that's the story, but for some reason they dropped that story. Because these stories are all bogus. Yeah, because that was Milwaukee and this is the Maryland man.

Okay, so let's see what you got. So I got some, this is a different kind of a take on things. This is the old brother banishment tale. What, the old brother banishment? Old brother, O brother. O brother, yeah. Banishment. Okay, is this something I should understand? Is this code? There's no set up. It's just, it sets itself up. Their names were Lawrence and Cassandra Southwick.

Ford discovered the connection with his ancestors when he started digging into his genealogy as a hobby a few years ago. The Southwick's story was interesting because they were Quakers living under a very Puritan government. So they were banished from the community. It was from being Quakers, yeah. The court levied it as a formal punishment, maybe under blasphemy or heresy laws. I don't know the exact statute they would have cited, but that was the general purpose of it.

They fled to Shelter Island in New York. According to their memorial, according to some of the records that survived, they died of exposure and maltreatment shortly thereafter. They were already elderly when it happened, so it was probably quite an ordeal for them to be removed from their community and sent elsewhere. It was a sentence of banishment that became a de facto death sentence, it sounds like. More or less, yeah.

I think that, you know, for people who are banished from their community, it amounts to a sort of civil death, which is why you usually see legal commentators refer to it as sort of one step below the death penalty. Well, this was unexpected story. Yeah, and what do you think, how do you think they, this is like, well, let's think of a new angle to shoehorn our buddy into. In El Salvadorian, too. It's been shipped to El Salvador. How do we do that? I've got an idea. Part two.

Matt Ford is a staff writer at the New Republic, and he has been thinking about the Southerks because banishment is suddenly back on the table. President Trump, how many illegal criminals are you planning on exporting to El Salvador? And President Bukele, how many are you willing to take from the US? As many as possible. President Trump has already sent plane loads of immigrants to a maximum security prison in El Salvador for indefinite detention. Is this creative or what?

Wow, so we have a completely unrelated story about someone being banished from the community. Yeah, in the 1600s. As a Quaker. So immediately, you do the association that Trump is so back ass-ward that he's doing stuff that took place in the 1600s, and he's trying to bring it back. This is how far down, this is your Europeans must really would beat this up. Oh yeah, this is some MKUltra stuff. Did they flash, oh, it's radio, but they might as well just flash a monarch butterfly at you.

Okay, here comes some programming. Or indefinite detention. The legality of that move is being fought out in courts, but at an Oval Office meeting with the Salvadoran president this week, Trump was looking ahead. I'd like to go a step further. I mean, I said it to Pam. I don't know what the laws are. We always have to obey the laws, but we also have homegrown criminals that push people into subways that hit elderly ladies on the back of the head with a baseball bat. We're number one.

When they're not looking at our absolute monsters, I'd like to include them in the group of people to get them out of the country. In other words, exiling US citizens for committing a crime, which brings us back around to Matt Ford's 11th great-grandparents. In the grand scope of American history, these practices are not unheard of, but they are also now pretty far disregarded. Oh, nice script reading. Pretty far disregarded. Wow. That's good stuff. So this is like the- It's creative.

Very creative twist. Yeah. That is just like an eye roller. This was a very long presentation. I only have four clips, but we'll go into part three. Various legal experts, you found no one who could see any basis for this. By the way, she's starting to sound like Scott. Listen to her, start it over. Tell me I'm wrong. Okay, hold on, hold on. Various legal experts, you found no one who could see any basis for this in the Constitution? Yeah, let me see. Separate circuit test. Scott. Simon.

Various legal experts, you found no one who could see any basis for this in the Constitution? Yes, I don't even wanna talk like Scott. It's just fantastic. Well, it's tough because on one hand, the courts have never really ruled on it. That's what makes it so striking. Because nobody's tried it. Nobody's done it. And so, I can't find a Supreme Court opinion.

I can't point one to you and cite you one where the justices 50 or 100 years ago said, banishment is unconstitutional, exile is unconstitutional. But when you look at the grand scope of how the courts think about deportation, extradition, citizenship, it's pretty clear that it would be a disfavored practice. And we know that also from American history. What history book did he read? They're also talking about the Constitution.

You know, I think a lot of people don't understand the Constitution is a list of things you can't do. As the government. As the government. It's really a- The Bill of Rights, certainly. It's like, not stuff the government can't do and then everything else, you can make laws, you can do your own thing. You could do banishment. I don't see any issue. Because it's not, you can't, there's nothing in the Constitution that forbids it. Because the Constitution is about forbidding things.

And so, there's nothing that forbids it. You should be able to do this. And in fact, they don't talk about it too much, but people have been kicked out of the country largely like Snowden. They took his passport away while he was in Russia and he can't come back. Good point. What's the difference between that and banishment? Well, Snowden left himself. He left on his own accord and they wouldn't let him come back in. Now, I guess that is banishment. But it didn't kick him out.

He just, he's not allowed back in. Yeah, but, yeah. Yeah, yeah, tomato, tomato. I gotcha. Okay, let's wrap it up. This is when President Trump is asked explicitly if he's talking about U.S. citizens. Yeah, yeah, that includes them. Why do you think there's special category of person? They're as bad as anybody that comes in. We have bad ones too. Matt Ford, are U.S. citizens a special category of person under U.S. law? Constitutionally speaking, in many ways, they are.

I mean, American citizens are the only ones who can vote. They're the only ones who can serve on juries and they have a automatic right to live in this country. The general practice is they can't be denied re-entry if they leave, which is sort of a constitutional barrier in and of itself to the idea that they would be exiled to a distant land. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, like Russia. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they're kind of trying to go at this angle.

This is not gonna go anywhere, but I thought it was interesting and somewhat entertaining. Yes, oh, there's the Zephyr. It's not really the Zephyr, but I heard something go by. It's one of the many trains coming in from China. They're trying to move as much goods into the country as they can. Yes, as quickly as possible. As quickly as possible, yes. They're loading up. Oh, well, let's talk about some tariffs. Got some tariff news. Let me see, where's my tariffs? Ah! Ha, ha, ha.

I was kind of right. It was a huge relief to U.S. tech firms, but it may be short-lived. On Friday, the U.S. Customs Service announced that around 20 electronic products, including phones and computers, would be exempt from reciprocal tariffs. But by Sunday, the U.S. president had downplayed the move. Donald Trump said that those products will be targeted under upcoming sector-specific tariffs, goods seen as critical to U.S. national defense networks.

I'm telling you that Jamoche, our Commerce Secretary, he said something that clearly was not true. It was not true that they were exempted. And so now they're kind of weaseling around. Oh, no, don't you worry, because something's coming back on that. I think he jumped the gun on that one. Nobody is getting off the hook for the unfair trade balances. There was no tariff exception announced on Friday.

These products are subject to the existing 20 % fentanyl tariffs, and they are just moving to a different tariff bucket. Trump said semiconductors and the entire electronic supply chain are under review in a new national investigation. He promised to release details on Monday. Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick, for his part, said semiconductor tariffs could be in place within a month or two. Our medicines and our semiconductors need to be built in America. Donald Trump is on it.

He's calling that out. So you should understand, these are included in the semiconductor tariffs that are coming. Howard, go out there and fix that. Oh, okay. Yes, sir. Yes, boss. China reacted to the US move on Friday by describing it as merely a small step toward correcting what it called a wrong practice and urged Washington to cancel the tariffs entirely. I love... Hey. Yeah. What? You give me grief about my clips from NTD and you play this guy? That's... These guys are from France 24.

I don't know where they're getting them from. This is like D-listers. You know what's really bad? And I tried to pull some clips, but it just didn't work. So I guess there was some science award show last night and Seth Rogen was the co-host with... What's the guy's name? Norman. Seth Rogen, the comic? Yes. And it's like, it's the Oscars of science and it's funded by, you know, Peter Thiel, Mark Zuckerberg, et cetera. And it's only online. Everyone's in tuxedos. Ooh, yeah, so great.

And then Seth Rogen, this is what I was looking for. I was looking for a clip. Seth Rogen said, well, isn't it amazing that, you know, all these people funded it and then yet you got one guy who takes $300 million, buys a president, you know, obviously slamming Elon Musk. So they cut that out. It's no longer available. But then I just went looking for, because surely somebody recorded this and has a clip. And all I got were AI generated videos.

There must've been a hundred of them and they sound kind of okay, but then they'd all go, Seth Rogen. Like, okay, well, all right, you're AI, Seth Rogen. And it's like, YouTube is just filled with AI news clips. It's horrible. It's become useless. So I'd rather have this guy than the Seth Rogen AI. No, I think the guy's fine, you know, because I have the NTD guys who sound funny. Yeah. But it just seems to me you got a big network like F24. You could do something. Yeah, you could do something.

Pay somebody some money that can actually speak English. So then we have the latest retaliation from China for what it's worth. Donald Trump's trade war has hit the aerospace sector worse than previously thought. China has now reportedly ordered its airlines to pause orders from US planemaker Boeing, along with parts made by American companies.

Its top three airlines, Air China, China Eastern and China Southern, had planned to take delivery of a total 179 Boeing jets over the next two to three years. Uncertainty over tariffs has left manufacturers and airlines alike asking just who'll pay the cost and scouring contracts to see just how exposed they might be.

Even if Washington's reciprocal tariffs are currently on hold, with a baseline 10% in place for three months, except for China, which has a full 145% levy in place, the long build times for aircraft means those figures could easily change between now and ultimate delivery. Yeah, no kidding.

With an order from Airbus on the cards, US airline Delta has stated it won't pay the cost of tariffs at all, and the European planemaker is saying it's still assessing the impact of trade tensions and a possible 20 % duty on its exports. Some airlines like Ryanair have indicated they could defer deliveries until next year while waiting for clarity.

Either way, with a decades-old agreement that maintained aerospace traders duty-free now in tatters, the world's airlines and planemakers could now be on course for a serious standoff. Yeah, the Dutch newspapers were just filled with this story that, oh, travel to the US has jumped down through the basement, no one's buying, oh, the airlines are in trouble, no one's buying tickets to go to America. I don't even know if that's true. Well, you'll find out on the way back.

If the plane's dead empty, you'll know. Yeah, well, it was full going over, full going over. And so the European Central Bank lowered their interest rate again. This is their third cut, I believe, in a row. Now 2.25%, which seems quite low compared to the United States, and President Trump is not happy about that. The closing bell on Wall Street today ringing in new losses, the Dow ending the day down almost 2%.

The plunge attributed to the Federal Reserve Chairman's new warnings today about President Trump's sweeping tariff policy. Tariffs are highly likely to generate at least a temporary rise in inflation. Even before Powell spoke, tech stocks started dipping after the Trump administration put up new roadblocks for giant chip maker, Nvidia, to export to China, the company saying it will lose $5 .5 billion.

Some imports coming into the US from China, like electric vehicles and syringes, are now facing a hefty 245% tariff. The White House says there were tariff talks today between President Trump and- This is another thing that they've done. They were all, so they're adding up the tariffs from 2017, making it sound like we've just made it go to 245, but this includes tariffs from- Also, there's a question in my mind, what electric cars from China are coming into the US? Yeah, all of those, none?

I haven't seen one Chinese, we don't have one Chinese car in the US that I know of. No. No. No, but it's- So why did she say that? She said, she specifically said cars. She doesn't like Trump. White House says there were tariff talks today between President Trump and representatives from Japan, America's fourth biggest trading partner. But a new lawsuit over the Trump tariffs from the fifth biggest economy in the world, California.

We're also the largest manufacturing state in the United States of America, $412 billion output. And I want to put that in perspective. Newsom charging that Trump does not have the authority to unilaterally place tariffs using the International Economic Emergency Powers Act, requesting a judge void the tariffs and block them. Where the hell is Congress? Where the hell is Speaker Johnson? Do your job. And so I, yeah, I'm angry as a parent. As a parent. As a taxpayer.

Newsom says the tariffs are impacting California's trade with U.S. trading partners around the world. California is also the nation's biggest importer. Ah, poor California. We're the biggest, we're number one biggest. We're the biggest importer. And by the way, President Trump, he's a fix it. He solved inflation and everything's good. U.S. President Donald Trump claims he's fixed inflation. Despite the recent market turmoil triggered by his enactment of global tariffs.

We have to solve problems and we already solved inflation. You know, if you look at the numbers, the numbers are incredible, actually. Stock market's up and we're not letting other countries take advantage of this country like they have for the last 40 years. His remarks follow the release of the latest monthly consumer price report, which shows a 2 .4% inflation rate for March.

It also comes after the U.S. president offered an exemption to Apple and other technology companies prompting global stock rises after another tumultuous week. Trump has since announced he might temporarily exempt the auto industry from tariffs to give car makers time to adjust their supply chains. However, many economists remain reluctant to view a single consumer report as evidence of a broader trend and continue to fear that Trump's tariffs will raise prices and harm the economy.

Yeah. Yeah. How was Andrew? I didn't hear the show. DH Unplugged comes out every Tuesday night. How was Andrew doing? He's hanging in there. It wasn't as bad as I thought it might be. Oh, okay. He probably made money. He probably got in on that big buy. That big buying opportunity. I don't know. Okay, good. I'm glad. He has not contacted me, which means he's really angry. No, I don't think he knows. I think you're right. He doesn't listen to the show anymore. He doesn't listen anymore?

Oh, he's too busy watching MSNBC, shaking his fist. I don't know how much more you're gonna have to insult him before you get that call. I'm trying, I'm trying real hard. I want the call. Andrew, give Adam a call. He's lonely. How about this? This had kind of an extra little double feature in here which was, it was mentioned, but I didn't hear anyone make the connection. This is the purge over at the Defense Department. This is the Reuters report on it.

An advisor to U.S. Defense Secretary Pete Hagseth has been escorted from the Pentagon after being identified during an investigation into leaks at the Department of Defense. Dan Caldwell has been placed on administrative leave for, quote, an unauthorized disclosure. That's according to a U.S. official who says the investigation remains ongoing. Phil Stewart covers the Pentagon for us. He has been the first person implicated in a investigation that was launched on March 21st.

And this investigation authorized the use of polygraphs against senior Defense Department officials, which obviously signaled that Hagseth and the Trump administration were quite concerned about something going on at the Pentagon related to leaks of classified information. And now we have Dan Caldwell who has been escorted out, but we're hearing that he may not be the last person to be implicated in this investigation. Okay, so Dan Caldwell.

All right, we have a name, and let's learn about Dan Caldwell. Now, who is Dan Caldwell? So Dan Caldwell had been one of the most influential people in the Pentagon that nobody had ever heard of. He was first named, kind of came out into the public view when the Atlantic published the transcript from a signal chat that involved planning for the U.S. launch of strikes against the Houthis in Yemen.

And when the U.S. Defense Secretary, Pete Hagseth, had to name his point person for this coordination on this major U.S. offensive, he named Dan Caldwell. Now, Dan Caldwell and Pete Hagseth go way back. They've known each other for a long time. He had tremendous influence, and it shows that this leak investigation is no joke, and that Hagseth is willing to let key allies go if it means purging the Pentagon from leakers.

What are the chances that this guy was on the dreaded signal call, he's being kicked out for unauthorized disclosure? Now I'm thinking he might've been the one that added the journalist. Well, there's something interesting about this guy. His Wiki page, for example, has got spook written all over it. But not in the spot the spook. There's two forms that we look at.

One is spot the spook, which is you can see their background, what schools they went to, and then they had assignments all over the world for some unknown reason. Speaking multiple Eastern languages. Yeah, exactly. Russian and Arabic, I mean, come on. So then there's the other one, which is that nothing. Empty, just completely empty. It's like, what school did he go to? Have no idea. When was he born? I don't know. Does his parents have the same name as him?

Hard to say, because there's no mention. So we have this type of guy. And so I suspect he might be planted. For a long time. He was a long-time confidant. You put a guy in there and he just reports back. Well, if you listen to that entire Kurt, what's his name, interview with Tucker, man, he says there are so many people, particularly in defense, who are so corrupt and making so much money off of war and things that we start, crap that we stir up.

And I would love that guy to be testifying somewhere after the Epstein files come out, of course. Yeah, that'll be the day. I can wait, I can wait. I have patience. What about Diddy, at least? Come on. Diddy just pleaded not guilty to something else. They throw Diddy in from time to time. But that lawyer's kind of falling apart. The Busby guy, he's got all kinds of problems going on. Surprise. I mean, what's surprising is Diddy's still alive. That's what's surprising. Must be a reason.

Well, they're not gonna make, he's gonna, okay, well, we'll see how long that lasts. Must be a reason. So Boasberg, the judge. Yeah, this is an interesting dude. I got some analysis on this. This is Boasberg contempt NPRs that is the opener. Now, this is the guy who. The judge who told, told him to turn the plane around. The Trump administration, quote, demonstrated willful disregard for a court's order and is likely in criminal contempt.

That is what U.S. District Judge James Boasberg ruled today here in Washington. Boasberg has been trying to determine if the government purposely ignored him last month when he told it to turn back two airplanes, planes carrying Venezuelan migrants to a prison in El Salvador. NPR's Adrian Florido is here. Hi, Adrian. Hi. Hi, Mary Louise. What else did Judge Boasberg say in his ruling? Well, he said that he found that in fact, government officials did ignore his order to turn those planes around.

A little context, Mary Louise, on March 15th, President Trump announced that he'd invoked the Wartime Alien Enemies Act of 1798 so he could quickly deport members of the Venezuelan gang Trinidad Agua without hearings. Later that day, officials in Texas loaded dozens of men into two airplanes. The ACLU got wind of the government's plans and sued. During an emergency hearing, excuse me, in D

.C. that evening, Judge Boasberg asked government lawyers if the planes had already taken off and said if they had, they needed to turn around. The planes did not turn back though. They landed in El Salvador and that country's president locked the men up. Boasberg, in his ruling today, said the government could have returned those planes because they took off during his hearing and they landed after he'd issued his order.

He wrote that, and I'm quoting here, the Constitution does not tolerate willful disobedience of judicial orders. And he said that he had probable cause to find the administration in criminal contempt. Criminal contempt. So what does that mean when that's applied to the federal government? Oh, ask Eric Holder what that means. It means nothing. It means completely nothing. Well, it depends on what the government does next. Boasberg gave it until next Wednesday to do one of two things.

It can show him how it's working to correct its violation. And he said that the most obvious way would be to reassert custody of the men it deported so they can challenge their deportations in federal courts. Now, Rob, the constitutional lawyer, did a deep dive for me. Deep dive! A deep dive, yes. And he says, this is only about habeas corpus. Habeas corpus. And yes, but you can't sue in a different state and they should have sued in Texas. And so this whole thing was, it's technicality, really.

It's not like this judge can really turn stuff around. The whole thing is, pardon the pun, trumped up. Yeah. Yeah, they're trying to get something going here. They are still being held in that Salvadoran prison and many of their families have flatly denied that they are gang members. If the government chooses not to do that, Boasberg said, then- Do they have a soundbite? Do they have a crying wife? Do they have crying children? Do they have anyone, like a mom, anything? They tried. The family?

They just, oh no, the family's saying, oh no, oh no. If the government chooses not to do that, Boasberg said, then he said it needs to tell him the names of the specific government officials who ignored his order. He said he will hold contempt hearings and if necessary, appoint a lawyer to criminally prosecute them for contempt and they could face fines or prison. So how are both sides responding to this ruling? Start with the lawyers who brought this case.

Well, they're from the ACLU and from a group called Democracy Forward. This is Democracy Forward's attorney, in this case, Eskai Perriman. This ruling, it's clear that we've seen the government has acted in blatant disregard for the judiciary, treating court orders as if they are optional, and that's not how our systems of checks and balances works. This really is something that should concern every single person in the country.

She said that her team will continue working through the courts to ensure that everyone in the U.S. gets due process. On the other side, a White House spokesman said the government will appeal today's ruling. He said the president is committed to ensuring that, quote, criminal illegal migrants are no longer a threat to Americans. The Department of Justice also issued a statement calling Boasberg's ruling a judicial power grab.

You know, not in the news, and I only have read a report about this, this Boasberg is under investigation himself for taking drafts of amicus briefs from organizations like ACLU, and then redlining them, sending them back, saying, no, no, no, you change this, change this, then send it back to me. And then using those to dismiss cases or, you know, to do something like this, which is hold people in contempt. He's under investigation because Holman has some goods on him.

He has some whistleblower, but I can't find any news, any clips about this. Of course not. What am I thinking? Adrian, this is, of course, not the only case in which federal courts are trying to force the Trump administration to obey court orders. Zoom out, give us the bigger picture. Well, members of the Trump administration are not going to let courts get in their way of carrying out the president's priorities. What is she, a Bitcoiner? Zoom out, zoom out, zoom out, zoom out.

Tell us what you've learned. Well, members of the Trump administration have said they're not going to let courts get in their way of carrying out the president's priorities. And today is the first time a judge has clearly said they will be punished for not obeying courts. If they still refuse, that is where legal experts say that we will have a full -blown constitutional crisis where the balance of powers between the executive and judicial branches may not hold.

Oh, at least we have another constitutional crisis on our hands. We have super cuts, so we're good. We're ready. Bring it on. We are ready. Bring it on. We need it. I do actually have some clips about the wrongly deported man. Yeah, NPR, how coincidental. If you don't mind, I shall roll these out. Judge Paul Azinis ordered the Trump administration to provide more information on whether it has done anything to facilitate the return of a Maryland man deported to El Salvador by mistake.

NPR's Ximena Bustillo has been following this, and she's here with me in our studios in Washington. Good morning, Ximena. Good morning, Michelle. The judge originally ordered for two items. First, for the government to facilitate Abrego Garcia's release and return from Secau. This is the mega prison in El Salvador. The White House has said that his deportation was an administrative error. Second, to ensure that if he is brought back to the U.S. Stop the clip. Stopped.

So who said this administrative error quote? Everyone keeps bringing it up. I look for it. I specifically want to look for the- The administration says it's an administrative error. Who said this? The administration. There is no the administration that has a voice. There's a person that must have said it. But I have- Leave it. Levitt. Carolyn Levitt said it. Levitt said it. She did? Yeah, she did.

She said it was administrative error, and she said, or clerical, I think she actually said clerical error. I'd have to look it up. But what that clerical error is is not entirely clear. So he was apparently deported by mistake, but when they looked at him and went, you actually deserve to be deported. That's the claim.

You know what's interesting is if you listen to all these reports on the one side, the side we're playing, and then you listen to like Jesse Waters, who did a really deep, deep dive on the whole thing. And this guy's like, this is a bad person, a bad guy. The one side of the argument- He beat his wife. I heard he beat his wife. He beat his wife twice. He beat her up twice, and probably more than that, but she's reported it twice. Yeah. And then he says the wife beat her.

We should deport all wife beaters to El Salvador. I'm all for that. Yeah, it's a banishment. Yes. So the, did you see the clip, a TikTok clip where the guy beats his wife in a bar, he gives her a couple of slugs, and every guy in the bar beats the crap out of the guy? Well, good. No, I didn't. Yeah, that's what I said. I know, you're doom scrolling on X, because that's all you get.

If you just scroll on X, you wind up getting people in cars shooting at cops, people beating each other, people getting killed in accidents, in-car camera of a truck driver getting an accident. Everything is short videos that are just meant to stress you out. Okay, so here, just as an aside. Not healthy. So Jay is putting up the tech grouch on TikTok and on Instagram. Oh, reruns, reruns? The reruns for starts, and then we're going to do some originals. But- Well, I got to like him.

How's the tech grouch doing? Is he going viral? I just showed up yesterday. And so she gives me her phone, which has TikTok on it. She says, pick some of these that you like. And so I start doom scrolling. Uh-oh. And it's very, holy crap. And then you see, I've only taken the TikToks from X that have been repurposed, and they've been filtered. And when I go on TikTok, I end up, since I'm on a VPN half the time, I'm in Argentina. So everything's in Spanish. I don't care.

And even though the same basic TikToks, only everything's in Spanish. Same idea. And they're dancing. They're doing this stupid dancing. And, but I got on the phone thing, because, you know, you mentioned this, the phone is different. Yes. Holy mackerel. I told you. And within just a few minutes- You were hooked. I had to just give it back to her. Within a few minutes, they were starting to, every third advertiser, there was like TikTok, TikTok, TikTok. Shop, shop, shop, shop.

And the advertisements I started getting out of the blue were for teeth implants. They already know you. And I said to Jay, I said, what am I getting all these teeth implants? She says, because they know you're older. Yeah. They already know you. And I said, this is your, this is your phone. She says, no. She said, she tells me this. I mean, she studied it. I don't know how she got this information. She says, it's been determined that older, because she watched me do this.

It's the way you scroll. The way I scroll. And the fact that I stay on certain of the presentations and the ones that include a lot of AI imaging, according to her, means you're older. Because you fall for it. No, I'm not falling for anything. It's amusing as hell. But you like it. It's very likable to watch some of these AI presentations because they got a dancing dog. They got a little baby that's dancing and he's muscle bound. He's dancing. I mean, there's all kinds of funny stuff.

We got an old coot, roll out the dentures. And so within five or six of these things, they figured out, I must be an old coot. And so they started rolling out the ads for teeth implants. Now, was she not angry that you ruined her algorithm? Now she's- No, according to her, it doesn't, whoever's doing the scrolling, it's in real time, they'll change it. So on the plane, so I had to fly to Atlanta first and I'm sitting next to this guy and he has a gigantic iPhone.

I mean, I didn't know they were this big. It's huge. And so I'm just sitting there, I'm in the aisle, he's in the middle seat. And he's going through Instagram. It is amazing to watch. So it's like, flick, it's thumb thick, flick up one. Okay. Okay, look, look, look. Oh, press down, heart, send to somebody. Go back, like it. Flick, next one. Okay. Gay guy. No, next. Gay. Yeah. And then, oh, oh, I'm gonna send this to three people. And then click, flick. Oh, LOL, flick. And it's fast. It's fast.

The thumbs are moving, moving, moving. And he's just doing stuff. He's grooving all over the place. It was fascinating. Wow. And of course he had no idea I was looking at him because he was just, he was completely. Well, you can't pay that much attention to you because he's focused. And you could just, I mean, maybe I don't get out enough, but this was an excellent opportunity just to watch. You know, he's probably in his 30s, late 30s.

And I was like, wow, you are in tune with the machine and every, every, you can see him, this decision-making process. Like, do I watch it? No. And you can even see him watching something. You see the thumb going closer. Do I flip this one up? Oh, wait, I'm gonna wait for a second. And then he has to make a response. If he's watched the whole video, it has to be a heart, a like, a comment, a share, a lot of sharing going on. I was like, this is so bad. That's terrible.

It is. Well, I mean, I was on the thing for, I don't know, maybe, I don't know how many minutes, but it was long enough for me to give it back to her and say, you know, I think you got enough material, of the favorites that I could do reaction videos to. And cause, but it's, and there are some, in fact, there was the one thing I was kind of fascinated with were these women who can't cook videos. Oh yeah. And there is endless, endless women who can't cook. The mom and her son.

Have you seen that one? No, but I'm sure it's in the mix. Yeah. But these, it's like hundreds of women who can't cook and they have huge followings, according to Jane, especially the ones who really can't cook. And of course we all fall for, they have big following. Who knows? Who knows? These numbers are phony. They could be all fake, but I would follow that. There's one woman that can't cook that is so bad. It's like, holy man, how do you even come up with these ideas?

You know, you take the tacos and you put the sauce on it. A lot of cheese. You take a can of beans. A lot of cheese. You put potato chips on top and then you hit it with your foot. And a lot of cheese. It goes on and on. And always cheese. Lots of cheese. A lot of cheese. Cheese, a lot of cheese. Cheese at the end. We are doomed. And then you put it in the oven and it comes out. Oh, and she's always, she scrapes it out of there and puts it on a plate. This is so delicious. My husband loves it.

And I'm thinking this poor husband is lucky he doesn't shoot himself. But yeah. Tech grouch, save us. We need saving tech grouch. Come on in. It's the exit strategy of all exit strategies. You will be a sensation. Sensation. Since we're speaking about the phone, you know, I've given up on the hollow book because you haven't done anything. But I had a new idea. I'm still getting people sending stuff in. No, please. You're not doing anything.

But I figured maybe if we changed it to noagendasideboard.com, you know, so you have a big drawer and then we just send out this whole sideboard and you put the phone in the drawer and you can really be like John. Anything to get us out of this gig. Anything, anything. All right. Now, years ago, you were on a series of clips that I rudely interrupted. I don't think I even want to go back to them. It's not even interesting. Okay, well, I do have an interesting one before the break.

Okay. This is NPR is under attack by the government. Finally, they're gonna pull the funding. Yeah, all 5%. Not even that. Yeah. So here is the, I have a series of four clips that they have the attack on NPR clip and they brought out Maher, Maher, the woman, mayor, whatever they call her. She's the NPR boss now. She's the NPR boss. And here we go with the attack on NPR. Well, NPR is in the headlines this week.

That is because the Trump administration has drafted a memo to Congress calling for lawmakers to end nearly all federal funding to public media. That includes NPR and PBS and would include money already appropriated by Congress. That's according to a White House official who spoke to NPR. So we have invited our president and CEO, Catherine Maher to speak with us live. Welcome. Thank you for having me. I wanna quickly clarify the relationship here for people listening. You are my boss.

You hold the top job at NPR, but you're not a journalist. You are not involved in newsroom editorial decisions. That's completely correct. And your office, you have not seen or had input into the questions that I am about to ask you. That's right. We've never met before and you are just a random person from the audience. Yes. From the audience and here we go. That's correct.

I wanna note, we have asked, the newsroom has asked the White House to comment on what their goal is here with pulling back funding. They have not responded. They have posted on- Hold on, stop. The goal is to pull back funding. And we'd like to take your money away. Oh, well, what's your goal? What's the goal? To take your money away. Hello? Comment on what their goal is here with pulling back funding. They have not responded.

They have posted on the White House website a list of NPR and PBS stories that it says represent biased content and quote, radical woke propaganda disguised as news. This includes stories dealing with LGBTQ issues, with coverage of race, coverage of politics. Understanding Catherine, that many of the examples on this list date from before your tenure, does NPR stand by its journalism? Absolutely. Absolutely. Well, why'd you cut that off? I didn't mean to. No, you did.

But absolutely is what she said. Absolutely. Yes, of course. She doesn't even know what they're talking about. Well, she's not a journalist, but she stands by their reporting. She trusts them implicitly. Yeah, good. Has NPR been formally notified by the White House about the rescission? We have not. How much money is at stake? In this particular package, it would be all the funds for fiscal year 26 and 27 for public radio in total. That is about 250 million for public media as a whole.

It's a little over a billion dollars, including public television. The central question, what would be the effect on NPR of losing government funding? Pack your bag, lady. The biggest effect would be on the NPR network, which are the 246 stations around the country that you're probably listening to us on right now. Those are our member stations, and they receive about 100 million of the 121, 22 million that goes to public radio every single year. Have these people heard of streaming lately?

I mean, we don't really need the broadcast stations. Have you considered? It gets thicker than this. Oh, okay. So the big impact would be on rural stations, stations in geographies that are quite large or complex in order to be able to receive broadcast where infrastructure costs are very high. You could see some of those stations really having to cut back services or potentially going away altogether.

So we're throwing around a lot of big numbers here, but basically, just to stick with this point, because I think a lot of people may not understand, NPR, the network you and I work for, gets around 1% of our annual budget directly from the federal government. You're making the point that a lot of our member stations would be hit considerably harder. So is the 1 billion part of the 1%? Are they getting a trillion dollars? No, but she is, like 250 million is the 1%, which is what?

When you make it, if it's 1%, that's $20 billion overall. Am I got my numbers right? It's a hundred to one? Well, it's- 20 billion, so you get 250- 250 million, so- Times 10 would be- 2.5, yeah, 25 billion. Yeah, so their total budget is 25, just NPR, not the billion, but if it was a million in there too, we're talking about a hundred billion. All public media, it's probably all public media. All public media was a billion, she said, from the government, and it's only 1%.

So wait a minute, you're telling me that they've got $20 billion from, including the 250 from the government, plus underwriters, advertisers, individuals, foundation. This is much better, this is a better deal than broadcast media, where you just rely on advertising. Mypillow.com, Code Bongino. Wow, that's, it's very fuzzy. And they're whining, they've got $20 billion to play with and they're going to lose a billion.

Oh no, no, I'm sorry, they're not even going to, they got 20 billion to 25 billion to play with, they're going to lose 250 million and they're whining because it's going to hurt the little, where's that other money going? Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you $25 billion worth of money. Suffer and succotash. I'm Scott. Simon. He literally has a golden voice, let me tell you.

So we receive about 1% of our budget, it goes to support things like body armor for journalists covering conflict overseas, extra support for our presidential national elections, all the sorts of things that we want to invest in to ensure that we're able to report on issues that matter to the public. But generally speaking, most of our operating budget comes from our membership fees and that's what allow our members to be able to receive programming.

It comes from underwriting support, it comes from private donations, individual audience member donations. And that same thing is true for member stations, except federal funding makes up a much bigger percentage of their total budget. If all government funding goes away, would we survive? Oh! 1%, 1%. I'm doing a puff. You're going to lose 1% of all their funding and then go, whoa, we're going to survive, we lost 1%. I'm telling you, does this make any sense to anybody listening?

No, they're not being true. I mean, and then it's going towards body armor for journalists, that's the big expenditure. Well, we have to cut on the body. Hey, we're going from 25 billion, we got to going to 21,750,000,000. Sorry, no body armor for you. We need the caviar and we need those shrimp deals for lunch. We can't give you body armor. No, this doesn't make any sense. I can't believe it's that much money. I can't believe that 25 billion. What is the operating budget of CBS or NBC?

You think that they're spending 25 billion? Well, this is, by the way, that 25 billion is NPR. It's not even the television stuff. I thought it was all of public media. No, all public media was 1 billion. From the government. This doesn't sound right. This is just, then. And if that 1 billion is part of one, if it's 1%, that would mean 100 billion goes into the, these guys are making money, making bank. Someone's getting cornhole today. Sounds like a recipe for success to me.

I think the question is, would we be able to thrive as a national network? That is what I am focused on, is we get so much value as public media by being part of a 50-state network that covers 99.7% of the American population. If federal funding goes away, that network is absolutely at risk.

The quality of service, the ability to cover everyone, people who live in what would otherwise be news deserts, and as a result, there's no question that NPR would not be able to pull from that richness of our national coverage. Yes, literally, richness of our national coverage. Very rich richness of your national coverage. It's obvious.

NPR would not be able to pull from that richness of our national coverage if those local newsrooms- Right, so it's local newsrooms that would be going away, often in places where local newspapers have already been designated. 1%! That's exactly right, together. Make the case, why should any tax dollars support public broadcasting when there are plenty of other news organizations around, when anyone, frankly, these days, can produce programming on their iPhone? On your iPhone, really.

On their iPhone. Yeah, that's- You can produce. That's what the tax lady said to me when she went through the Airstream. Yes, I know, I use that story all the time, by the way. Just make your podcast on your iPhone. By the way, NPR uses the Neumann U67, which costs $7,895. That's a microphone. I'm literally using an unmarketed, never-to-be -sold Curry One microphone, which costs about- Soon to be available to everyone.

Oh, absolutely, and I think that it's important for public media to be able to continue to be relevant in a time where there is a lot of coverage of different issues and areas of interest. And at the same time, I think it's very easy to say that there's universal coverage because there's so much content being produced.

But the reality is there are many places in this country that do not have that kind of access to either cell phone service or high-speed broadband, where radio may be the only way to reach communities with regular access to news. Hey, I'm out here in the sticks. Hey, honey, you got a radio? Because I don't know, we can't get television or nothing. We can't get no internet. Please.

You can just do the tech grouts, just audio, and then we can just put AI, Scaramonga can put the tech grouch over it. You don't have to get dressed. We could pretty much do that by now, yeah. Yeah, you should consider that. Did you see the latest Scaramonga video? No, I did not. I'll tell you in a minute. Or high-speed broadband, where radio may be the only way to reach communities with regular access to news.

Public media also supports local news coverage in places we've already mentioned that about- No, she mentioned zero places. She said some places where people live who have that voice that you have, who have no- Yeah, you can't get any reception. Move the rabbit ears, honey. Yeah. Public media also supports local news coverage in places we've already mentioned that about 20% of Americans live in an area without any other local news coverage other than their local public radio station.

Oh, yeah, like Austin, where we were snowed in for five days without electricity. I turned on my local NPR station, KUT, and I got, this was fresh air with Terry Grouch. Bull crap, lady. You're right. This is why hyper-local podcasting is the way to go. There is no local programming. This is tremendously important as a public service. And just because not every single person uses it every day, you know, I don't drive on our interstates every day. And yet, when I need it, it's there.

No, you are in the back of the limo. You don't drive. You better be in the back of the limo. But there's a false equivalency anyway. And by the way, the same places that don't have any internet don't have the interstate either. This is like bull crap. And these people are still begging for money. They have a budget of anywhere between 25 and $100 billion from their own numbers that they just, you heard her, she said it's 1%. It's unbelievable.

And they get money from the government for no good reason. They get money from foundations. They get money from individuals, you know, viewers like you. And they get money from advertising, whatever you want to call it. So they got money coming in. The underwriting is another way. They've got money coming in every which way that broadcast people, the people that actually have to work for a living don't get all these inputs. This is ridiculous.

And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage. Perfect segue. Say in the morning to you, the man who put the C in the new CDC report. Say hello to my friend on the other end. The one, the only Mr. John C. DeMora. Yeah, well, in the morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry. In the morning, I ship C, boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there. In the morning to the trolls. Show him the room. He cares for the trolls. What do we got here?

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Yo. Yo, yo, yo, yo. What do we have? Let's see, there was some other stuff going on. Oh, yes. I Got some trans Maoism stuff, which could probably fold into some tick-tock clips you've got I'm just guessing I've got some tick -tock clips. I got two you want to do those first really? Yeah, let's get because they're fun and people love them Okay Let's start with the historians a line has been crossed For the 10 years that Trump has terrorized the American political scene.

We have been asking the question of when do we need to go? What's the danger signs?

What are the lines that need to be crossed for you to realize it's time to pull the shoe it just happened Three prominent Yale historians have now fled for Canada Jason Stanley Timothy Snyder whose book I've recommended on my page and Timothy's wife Marcy Shore have all decided to leave why because those who don't know their history are doomed to repeat it and They looked around at what's going on in our country and said We're not safe time to go if I'm going to

be able to continue my work and educate people on what's going on I Need to go.

I can't do that here safely anymore because the Trump administration is rapidly descending into fascism and dictatorship and They're not safe anymore To educate the public about the things that they know about history to try and prevent these types of things when Hitler took over in 1933 it wasn't just that and mass extermination There was a lead-up many years obviously their largest perceived enemy was the Jewish people But they targeted lots of other groups as

well It was political opponents civil servants who voted in a way that they didn't agree with sound familiar We're offering by Turkey so that they can replace everybody with yes people in our current government trans people gay people Disabled people who they didn't want to take care of they've been attacking gay and trans people in this country They've been going after services for disabled people What these historians see the writing on the wall, so if you

were looking for your oh shit sign It's here Okay well a couple of things let's go first of all the three historians there's there's a couple that are historians the other person is a Teaches philosophies not a historian so she's got that wrong the other thing is the what the woman just mentioned She's already living in Canada She's been there because it she took a job up there before Trump was elected and the other guy was offered a job for two Years to go up there, so he's gonna go up there

because it's lucrative and his wife's there the whole thing This is like just creating something out of nothing. It's just astonishing to me well allow me to Interject your tick-tock clips with a history lesson of my own. This is a super cut. It's only a minute.

Don't worry from 1993 to 2025 so this is a good history not of fascism in America, but of oligarchs taking over Bernie Sanders from 1993 to 2025 this great country of ours is moving very rapidly in the direction of Oligarchy the United States of America today is increasingly Becoming an oligarchy war and more moving toward an oligarchy We are moving in the direction of oligarchy We will move even more rapidly in the direction of an oligarchy this great country Is evolving into an oligarchic?

society It is called oligarchy and that is the system we are rapidly moving toward this is a budget that moves our country rapidly into the direction of oligarchy a handful of billionaires are moving this entire planet toward an oligarchic Society start off with the bad news which is pretty bad, and that is that under Donald Trump this country is hurtling Rapidly toward oligarchy keep it up Bernie one day. It'll happen. I'm sure I'm calm Yeah, this is third.

That's 30 years of clips Yes, 30 years of Bernie Sanders saying we're rapidly moving towards an oligarchy, but now under Trump. It's finally really happening oligarchy Yeah, nobody even cares. No all right, so the other tick-tock clip now. Here's that Here's a classic liberal lady not sure why no one understands How I feel you guys know that my husband turned Republican this term. I don't know why I threw his ass out of the house and I have to do more.

I don't want to shave my head cuz that's gonna hurt him I'm gonna look ugly, so I'm not doing that. I think I'm gonna sleep with his friends. I think that's the only way I Think sleeping with his friends will do what do you guys think his liberal friends of course? Oh? Please this is this is tick-tock clickbait You're not sleeping with anybody. This is dumb.

She's not sleeping with anybody do better do better John wish Better hey big news from the UK this hit the wires everybody It was all a tizzy here because the UK High Court has come up with some legal Definitions and it's a problem It's a long -awaited decision that defines how equality laws are applied and who they apply to The Supreme Court has ruled that the 2010 Equality Act defines a woman as someone born biologically female It means the law won't apply to transgender

women with a gender recognition certificate In the same way it applies to cisgender women the unanimous decision of this court is that the terms woman and sex?

in the Equality Act 2010 refer to a biological woman and biological sex Fascist But we counsel against reading this judgment as a triumph of one or more groups in our society at the expense of another It is not The judge stressed that the law still gives transgender people protection against discrimination in a separate part of the Equality Act What it won't do though is define trans women as women in representation on public sector boards for example

Which is what prompted the long-running legal dispute in the first place? This is really interesting.

I wonder if this was happening in the US as part of ESG when it was still in play the Economic social governance You had to have equal representation of women in boardrooms now I'm wondering how many US boardrooms had trans women on it Because that's what that's what sparked this whole debate in the UK Do you know by any chance no, I have no idea this is in fact, I wouldn't it wasn't even thinking about it But the UK was doing it Lobby group

for Women's Scotland complained that ministers had included trans people as part of the quotas in that law and brought the challenge against the Scottish government in 2018 They see the ruling as a huge victory Have said what we always believed to be the case that women are protected By their biological sex that sex is real and that women can now feel safe services and spaces Designated for women are for women the case may have started in Scotland But the decision adds to a particularly

polarizing debate over transgender rights across the UK and could be used by campaigners To press the government over its wider policies a Small light bright light in the UK all of a sudden Quite surprising. It's very surprising.

I think they'd go the other way then the most ironic clip of the day Which completely fits the what you said being yourself, but you copped through the health Leticia James the angle has obtained shocking allegations leveled by the Trump administration Against New York Attorney General Letitia James the Federal Housing Finance Agency has sent a criminal referral to the DOJ accusing James of mortgage fraud and a letter to Attorney General Pam Bondi director Bill Pulte says

James Appears to have falsified record in order to meet certain lending requirements and receive favorable loan terms He cited a property in Virginia that she's allegedly claimed as her principal Residence and a property in New York that she claimed as a four-unit structure instead of the required Instead of a five which Pulte says means she was able to get a different type and more favorable loan joining me now It's Jonathan Shirley Fox News contributor and

law professor at GW University your reaction to these allegations Well, obviously the irony is perfectly crushing. This is a Person who prosecuted Trump for everything short of ripping a label off a mattress and Among the charges that were brought in New York and not just a civil But the criminal case was making false or misleading statements to financial institutions if we apply the Letitia James standard that she Created there'd be a little question here.

This seems pretty straightforward What do what do they what the administration is saying is this was not her principal residence in fact as a New York Elected official she had to say that her principal residence was in New York This was an out-of-state residence, but also they claimed that in some of these forms She actually states that her father is her husband in order to file as a married couple Once again the Moe prophecy comes true The black women get taken down

you couldn't take down Trump. We're taking you down There it is The irony is delicious. Yeah, and also they do the woman Fannie is in trouble down in Georgia It wasn't she already in trouble. That's what I meant. She's in trouble.

Yeah. Oh, yeah Problems left and right and then Promises made promises kept we knew this was gonna happen So it's no surprise, but it was kind of fun many remember the moment a direct confrontation at a White House governor's meeting in February between President Donald Trump and Maine's Democratic governor Janet Mills about her state not complying with his executive order banning transgender men in women's sports Governor Mills is off mic, but her defiance of the president is clear.

Are you not going to comply with it? Fine Well, I'm we are the federal law Well, you better do it You better do it because you're not going to get any federal funding at all if you don't and by the way your population Even though it's somewhat liberal, although I did very well there your population. It doesn't want men playing in women's sports So you better come you better comply because otherwise you're not getting any any federal funding Every state good.

I'll see you in court Fast forward to this week when US Attorney General Pam Bondi announced a federal lawsuit against the state of Maine over opting not to comply with the Trump executive order and violations of title 9 sections that address eligibility of transgender students in athletic competition Yeah, there you go. So Pam Bondi man. She is like Fashion Barbie. I See her sitting in the Oval Office, you know, there's who was there Bukele From El Salvador, and she's got her.

I mean everyone's in business attire and she's Fashion Barbie It's amazing. She is You got the the hip pants on and everything So taking care of business here against Maine Attorney General Bondi outlined the goals of the federal lawsuit We are seeking an injunction To get them to stop this stop what they're doing.

That's pretty simple And we are seeking to have the titles returned to the young women who rightfully won these sports education secretary Linda McMahon's words during the announcement served as more of a warning than anything else that may may just Be the start of legal battles over transgender men in women's sports and even referred back to that February Confrontation we want to make sure that if you open women's sports or intimate facilities to males You expose

yourself to federal rights federal civil rights investigations Governor Mills will definitely get her wish boom There you go Yeah, Mills is just a whore and how does she ever get elected? She is the ugliest politician now There's nothing to do with it, yes, I guess a lot to do with it. She's she's Her ugliness comes out. Well, the idea is she's ugly in the inside. Yeah, it's internal.

Yeah, I agree Update on Iran Yeah, we know it's it's just weeks away Iran is not far from assessing a nuclear bomb From the UN's nuclear watchdog chief Rafael grossi as he's traveled to Tehran for talks to be held today grossi saying it's like a Puzzle they have the pieces and one day they could eventually put them together Oh, it's like Minecraft the UN watchdog tasked with overseeing Iran's nuclear program and its compliance with the 2015 nuclear deal Which they were collapsed of course

three years later when the United States withdrew from it during President Donald Trump's first term Western countries Including the US have long accused Iran of seeking to acquire nuclear weapons and allegation Tehran has consistently denied Insisting its program is for peaceful civilian purposes We're gonna cross live into our correspondent Say it is EMEA who joins us now from Tehran say Gracie then warning once again Really of just how close Iran could be developing a nuclear bomb.

Oh, well, yes Stewart That was the message that we received from Rafael grossi loud and clear last night when he arrived in Tehran He met the Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araqchi in a meeting that he described as timely and important Rafael grossi is in Tehran for two days So due to the busy schedule that the Iranian Foreign Minister had Because the Iranian Foreign Minister is right now on road on route to Moscow to meet Russia's Vladimir Putin So the IAEA director-general Rafael grossi

met the Iranian Foreign Minister last night upon his arrival in Tehran to Make sure that the sense of diplomacy in Tehran is urgent and credible assurances according to Rafael grossi in his post on X Is given to him to ensure the peaceful nature of the Iranian nuclear program so a very interesting development and President Trump announced this while the Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was sitting in the Oval Office with him It's like now, you know, we're gonna talk to Iran and I guess we're

talking to Russia and Iran and Russia are talking together Maybe we'll have Russia overseas stuff and well, so you're all coordinating their messages and net nut Yeah, who's out? But although it's according to our half of our listeners, you know, he's running every he's running the show. He's I keep trying to get to this clip. Tell us more about the situation regarding Iran and its nuclear program Yes, there's been quite a bit of news.

The first thing we heard today, which was itself quite shocking From the Guardian newspaper is that the United States offered Iran a sort of exchange deal?

Some sort of peace agreement or the lifting of sanctions if Iran agreed to dispatch its uranium its nuclear Material out of Iran to a third country the nation being mentioned was Russia But we heard this in the context of Iran not being interested Even in that sort of an offer the obviously the news of a this sort of an American alliance with Russia Coming upon the u.s You know acquiescence of Russian efforts in Europe in Ukraine also caused reverberations here in the Middle

East and subsequently news came of Donald Trump's envoy Steve Whitkoff saying that in fact, the United States is not interested in dismantling Iran's nuclear program the exact thing that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had demanded in his White House meeting With Donald Trump just a few days ago Steve Whitkoff said no We just don't want them to have a bomb that the press he said the president says We don't want them to have a bomb so we don't want them to have a bomb

and the Iranians Despite evidence to the contrary have always claimed as you said that they have just a civilian Program this is a very interesting development Considering that you know the last administration that tried to do a deal with Iran Was kind of along the same lines. Yeah, just don't don't make a bomb.

We know you're only two weeks away Don't make a bomb And they keep showing only two weeks away, yes, and they keep showing the aluminum tubes over and over again Yeah, they have the same B-roll Psychological effect I'm sure that brings us to Gaza, which is part of this deal somehow mm-hmm have the Gaza Israel update Hamas is rejecting new Israeli ceasefire in Gaza the proposal calls for disarming the militant group as a condition for ending the war NPR's Daniel Estrin has

more from Tel Aviv the new Israeli proposal is to pause the war in Gaza for a month and a half Free about half of Hamas as living Israeli hostages within the first week and negotiate the disarmament of militant groups a Hamas official tells NPR the group rejects the proposal the official spoke on condition of Anonymity because Hamas was still preparing a formal response to mediators But in a statement Hamas and other Palestinian groups said their weapons

were for self-defense They said the ceasefire proposal did not include guarantees to end the war and withdraw Israeli troops from Gaza Israel's defense minister says Israel is changing tactics and won't withdraw troops from areas. They capture in Gaza well that brings us to the governor Shapiro story Which we looked at that on the last show and said hmm That has FBI written all over it now.

I'm not so sure Tonight, so this is the suspect police are calling a domestic terrorist They say Cody bomber scaled a fence and firebombed governor Josh Shapiro's residence while the governor and his family were sleeping upstairs these images show the damage from two Molotov cocktails made from beer bottles and Gasoline that prosecutors say bomber took from his lawnmower the piano room and part of the dining room destroyed chairs and tables charred other Objects melted in the

same spot hours earlier the Shapiro's celebrating the first night of Passover Lori and I are overwhelmed By the prayers and the messages of support that we've received from all across Pennsylvania and all across the United States a Senior law enforcement official tells ABC News authorities are investigating whether this attack could have been motivated by the governor's Jewish faith Shapiro and his family were gathered Saturday evening with two dozen others.

He shared this photo of his Seder plate Hours later state troopers banging on the door to get everyone out Chief had the door not been closed Could the fire have spread further and deeper inside the mansion putting the governor and his family at risk If that door wasn't closed the fire would have spread and would have definitely put the governor at even greater risk What'd you say how? How what's the door got to do with any the windows were broken?

I don't know That's just that's for the story What are you and by the way it wasn't no we didn't think the FBI had anything to do with that We thought the FBI and I still think so had something to do with that maniac kid who killed his two parents And I was caught in Kansas. He was gonna go you're right Drone Trump, I'm sorry Wrong the FBI has backed off of that story because I don't I think they were behind like that He was messaging Ukraine. He was gonna get a job. They're right.

No, you're right And I think the FBI backed off of it completely not taking it No, don't talk about it because I don't think it was intended that he was gonna kill his parents No, and then what happened is they're like, oh, so what are we gonna do?

Ah, let's have this guy firebomb Shapiro This is the part of the fence the suspect Inside the governor's residence where he set the fire with an incendiary device Investigators cut away this part of the fence so they could do DNA testing today The governor surveyed the damage police say bomber fled the scene and later turned himself in Authorities say the 38 year old mechanic had a plan walking for approximately one hour from his residence to the

governor's residence Allegedly while harboring hatred towards governor Shapiro Asked by police what he would have done if the governor found him inside bomber Allegedly replied would have beaten him with his hammer in the Oval Office president Trump on the incident today Not me. The attacker was not a fan of Trump. I understand just from what I read and from what I've been told The attacker basically wasn't a fan of anybody.

It's probably just a whack job Certainly a thing like that cannot be allowed to happen Now we know what it was really about Tonight state police say the man accused of firebombing the Pennsylvania governor's mansion on the first night of Passover Called them confessed and said he did it because of governor Josh Shapiro support for Israel in its war against Hamas a Newly released search warrant application said Cody bomber called 9-1-1 less than an

hour after the arson attack Identifying himself by name and telling the operator governor Josh Shapiro needs to know that he will not take part in his plans for what He wants to do to the Palestinian people The document said bomber went on to say he needs to stop having my friends killed Our people have been put through too much by that monster and you know where to find me I'm not hiding and I will confess to everything that I've done Sadly not the last of these attacks.

We're going to see We don't have a tape of this bullcrap You know, why are you questioning the authorities? geez Well, I bet he did say that I don't know maybe if he did or didn't doesn't matter because he obviously did it No, obviously, I don't know that either to be honest about it But the fact is is the guys that is a I think Trump had it. He's a whack job Yeah, back to you. I guess I'm screwed since we're international.

I guess I'm Unusual clips about Ecuador five -minute warning Well, this will be it then I got two clips from Ecuador Here we go Ecuador is famous for its beaches and its capital city Quito high in the foothills of the Andes But in the past few years Ecuador has been dragged into a brutal international drug war Resulting in one of the highest homicide rates in Latin America that has helped make tomorrow's elections One of the country's most important in years appears Cary Khan joins

us from Ecuador. Hey, Carrie, hi Hi, so let's start with this. Where are you? And what is the mood like there? I'm in Guayaquil It's the biggest city in Ecuador.

It's also its economic center here Unfortunately, this port city and surrounding towns have become the most dangerous and deadly as for the mood I'd say people are just guarded and anxious for this election to come to an end Exhausted from the violence that's engulfed the country in recent years and actually in recent months January and February of this year have been the Most violent ever recorded with a homicide every hour being reported Wow Can you just

contextualize that for us a little more? Why has this violence erupted so quickly first?

It's been several years of gang violence here with the last few Increasingly brutal as gangs splinter and fight for territory Ecuador in the geography a sandwich between Columbia and Peru Those are the biggest cocaine producers in the world and Ecuador brings a lot of other advantages besides geography It's a dollar economy money laundering is easier here It's visa laws had always been lax and that allowed a lot of foreigners to easily come in and corruption is

widespread It has extensive ports and a long Pacific coastline lending great access to routes to the US and also to Europe Which is seen as surge in cocaine use Currently there are Mexican Colombian and even Albanian cartels operating here and of course together with the Ecuador Ecuador's local gangs which have Proliferated as the economy has stalled out here, too. You know what those people need John They need stable coin That's what they need they need so what is a Europeans using coke.

Oh, yeah. Oh coke is big in Holland to Everybody's happen. It's been that way for a while. I mean it The Port of Rotterdam is probably one of the biggest entry points for coke To get to get all throughout Europe You know the good old macro mafia is running it a lot of it here.

Yeah. Oh, no and just cheap Everybody I got some coke you want some cocoa coke funny enough didn't get any offered at the party No, you're a chumper Man you're dark So that is the context for this election, which is a runoff the winner will be president for the next four years Tell us about the two candidates, right?

The race is a repeat of the 2023 snap elections and the current president who won those has been in power for only 16 months He's 37 year old Daniel Noboa He's the son of the richest man here in Ecuador the family business is bananas one of Ecuador's largest exports The boy is a close ally of President Trump and he's pro-business He's pro free trade his opponent again is a leftist former lawmaker and lawyer Luisa Gonzalez She's 47 and is a very close ally

of the former firebrand leftist president Rafael Correa Who ruled Ecuador for 10 years? He's in self-imposed exile after being convicted of corruption But he still has a lot of sway and a loyal base here Is it fair to say that the crime and violence are the big issue for voters given all of this? Yes, it is the issue. It seems as if everyone has been hit by the crime wave here But you also hear a lot about former president Correa still too.

He's been out of power for nearly 10 years So it's kind of crazy to hear so much about him, but there is a lot of polarization His supporters look fondly on his rule They tend to gloss over his corruption charges his detractors blame him for much of the current economic and security crisis now And like Correa, they say Gonzalez will bring socialism to Ecuador both candidates Those say they will keep relying on the military for fighting the drug gangs President Noboa has declared a

state of emergency and declared. He is fighting an internal war Against terrorists. He's asked Trump personally for u.s. Military system and even to put a base here Gonzalez says that's a violation of Ecuadorian sovereignty and she says she'll put more money into social programs and in hard-hit communities Oh, there you go.

You know the Rubio Rubio to Ecuador got to get a base in there get your people some stable coin Yes, well, I think that I said it before the reason if you pick Rubio, it's cuz he speaks. He's fluent in Spanish. He's He's going to South America. He's doing deals down there. He's already straightened out the Panama thing We think I mean you can't really know what the hell's going on. Yeah, this is perfect for him I'm gonna show my support by donating to no agenda.

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I have a good time So I will be back for 420 for Easter the show back in Back in Fredericksburg very short trip this time, but I think I delivered the goods You know what's happening in the EU and EU you should be telling us more about these things We need to know how you're really feeling. I was quite surprised that that was a decree. It was a depressing report Yeah, but still our producers need to let us know when stuff is happening. I think you're right.

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