1755 - "Rat Poop"

Your tip is no good! Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Sunday, April 13th, 2025. This is your award-winning Gilmore Nation Media Assassination Episode 1755. This is no agenda. Cutting through the chaos. And broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas hill country here in FEMA Region Number 6. In the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley. Well, we've noticed that 420 and Easter are the same day. I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Clagglot and Buzzkill. In the morning.

Yes, yes, donors around the world have noticed that. I'm curious why you noticed it. I noticed it because I was, I just noticed it. It's just unusual for me because it's usually, you notice it after the show. Yes, this is true. After the donation opportunity was gone. Well, today is Palm Sunday though. It's a good start. I guess. Yes. I thought Ash Wednesday. Oh, I'm not even getting it in. Yeah, I don't know. You did mention chaos. I have the super clip. Oh, we both have the super clip.

Well, how long is your super clip? Mine is 52 seconds. Oh, I guess we have the same super clip. But then I have a follow-up clip. Well, let me hit you with the super clip. Hit me with your super clip, baby. We begin this hour with the chaos. The average American sees chaos. The American people see chaos. It's total chaos. You brought chaos. It's just complete chaos. Unleashed an economic chaos. They unleash chaos. They are creating chaos. This chaos. Oh, there's too much chaos. Total chaos.

And amidst the chaos. Gonna see chaos. After seeing all the chaos. The chaos is unleashed on America. Continue to see the chaos. Economic chaos. A lot more chaos. Trump's chaos. This is chaos. With such chaos. The chaos. Because of this chaos. All of this chaos. Uncertainty and chaos. Given all that chaos. When it's chaos. All the chaos. Chaos and confusion grow. More chaos, dysfunction. The chaos is the purpose. The chaos is the goal. It's chaos.

Based upon that super clip, I would say this was probably launched by Schumer. He probably said, all right, everybody, we're going for chaos. Schumer seems to be the guy behind much of this. Yes. Yes. I was just going to say, I had the one additional clip, which is to prove that NPR is on board with the Democrat industrial complex. Here is part of the teaser for one of your favorite shows and one of your favorite hosts on the media. Oh, yes. With Brooke. With Brooke Gladstone.

Brooke, your buddy, Brooke Gladstone. And here's her teaser. I'm looking for where the clip is. It's under Gladstone. Oh, Gladstone, yes. There's a lot going on right now. Mounting economic inequality, threats to democracy, environmental disaster, the sour stench of chaos in the air. You know... Stench of chaos. That's a good one. We've had... There have been many chaos... I'm looking if we see any other chaos super clips. I think it was... I think they played with, toyed with it before.

They were going with the threat to democracy. Well, they had chaos and confusion. That was February. Let's just check that. Tonight, confusion and chaos is spreading within a number of agencies across the federal government. Tonight, chaos and confusion across the federal government. This morning, chaos and confusion across the federal government. Okay, guys, listen, it's Chuck. Okay, chaos and confusion. No, wait, wait. Simplify the message. It didn't work. It was too...

Alliteration was good, but it was just too much. You're right. Thank you very much, John, for that input here on the Zoom call. We're going for chaos, everybody. Is it good? We're going for chaos? Everyone got it? Chaos? Chaos. Going for chaos. Simplify the message. Chaos and confusion was too much. It was too complicated. The American people could not figure it out. They couldn't parrot it. We didn't do a good job. Didn't do a good job. Man. Well, what is this? Well, chaos. It's just good.

It's good. And I can see where they tried to make this... I mean, first of all, no one cares anymore. People just don't care. They don't care about the... I have concluded... I'll restate what I said on the last show. Yes, this feels like we're in COVID. Everyone's responding the same way. As I was pondering this, I thought... Oh, you were... What? I was pondering. I sat at home drinking my schnapps, pondering, smoking my pipe, pondering, what is really going on here?

Rubbing my chin and I said to myself, ah, of course, this is just a re -ignition. We have never gotten over the cultural trauma of COVID. That is still lingering. These things don't go away within a couple of years. For us, John, you and I perhaps, but I think that this is something you can reignite over and over again. But they have to use different words. Chaos is not the right word.

If you want to really trigger that COVID cultural trauma, I'm not quite sure what it is, but you've got to use something. I think they could trigger it on a dime if they had the right mechanism. Well, that's an interesting thesis. Oh, I was... I'm not going to, it's like... You're not going to argue it? I'm not going to argue it. Thank you. That means I'm right.

Well, you would definitely be right if they could come up with what you're looking for, which is the term, the triggering moment, that the one thing I hadn't, you know, I can't think of anything. Somebody might come up with something. You start saying it over and over again and everyone just goes back to COVID. Well, can we use the word pandemic in a different manner? Can we say economic pandemic, maybe? I think pandemic is part of the problem. That has to go. Oh, that's no good.

That's what I'm just thinking. It's like been beat up. I mean, with the, you know, it's just, you got to have something. I don't know. It's a great idea if you could come up with it. Virus, virus, virus. Can we use virus somehow? Trump is a virus. No, it doesn't work. Well, think about it. I think they're dead in the water with this. Oh, well, the chaos is no good. No, it's no good. Well, no, it's all of it. I don't think they're pulling anything off.

Maybe you just say the economic downturn is spreading like a pandemic. I mean, maybe it can be longer, perhaps. I don't think. No, they've already proven they can't deal with longer. You have to be simple. Because the people don't get it. They don't understand. It's chaos, people. Don't you see? It's chaos. Well, adding to the chaos, and might as well address this right off the bat, was this very bad day in aviation in New York, in the Hudson River with the helicopter.

Well, you reported in real time. I did? Oh, yes, I did. But, but, but. Yes, you did. But we didn't know exactly. We hadn't seen all the video. Now, we've got just amazing how much video we have, which is on one hand, very helpful. On the other hand, not helpful. There seems to be a consensus among news experts, aviation news station experts that, oh, this is mass bumping, mass bumping. It's got to be mass bumping. It sounds cool because people are like, well, what's mass bumping?

I've never heard of mass bumping. Is it like climb bumping? No, it's mass bumping. It's something completely different. So I'll explain mass bumping and why I think this is not it. Although the results of what you saw with the tail rotor coming off, with the half of the tail boom and the main, not just rotor, but the whole gear separating from the aircraft.

Mass bumping first came to play with helicopters in Vietnam, with the big UH-1s, the UEs, where you'd be flying nape of the earth, as they call it. So flying very low. You go, there's a little hill in front of you. You pull back on the cyclic, on the stick. You pull back. You go up. You get to the top of the hill. You push it forward. Now, at that point, the helicopter, which typically is hanging underneath this rotor disc.

Now, that's what the rotor blades create a disc, and you're hanging underneath it. At that point, you have negative g-force. So these blades, which are intended to flap up and down, they will actually flap so far down because of the lack of weight of the helicopter, negative g, that it can strike the boom. They called it mass bumping because typically, on those you wouldn't necessarily chop off the tail, you would bump it.

But in helicopters with this type of dual blade, semi-articulate rotor head design, it can't happen. Robinson's 22-44, notorious for it. They're also relatively cheap helicopters. And in my opinion, kind of death traps. I don't like the 22 at all. The Bell is not something that happens very often. You'd have to really go back in history to find a mass bumping where it chopped off the tail boom. And there was also no evidence of a negative g-force.

There was no ascent or descent of the helicopter from the video I could see. So that would mean it would have had to be in turbulence. There was no real turbulence reported. So to me, it looks like this was some catastrophic failure with the tail rotor assembly that just, I mean, it looked like, I mean, it just snapped off almost. And then once that happens- Chinese parts, cheap Chinese parts. That is something I was thinking of. These are refurbished helicopters. That's possible.

It feels like a maintenance issue. There's this report which did bring up something else which would be possible. New video obtained by ABC News showing that doomed sightseeing helicopter twisting in the air before breaking apart and dropping out of the sky. Federal safety investigators now pouring over the wreckage and the Army Corps of Engineers helping salvage pieces still in the water.

And tonight the NTSB is investigating reports of a large flock of birds in the area and is appealing to the public for help. A 17 minute flight ending an unspeakable tragedy for the family of five from Spain that was on board. Augustin Escobar and his wife, Mercy, both executives at global tech company Siemens, along with their three children, ages four, eight and 10. Today would have been the middle child's ninth birthday.

The pilot, 36 year old Sean Johnson, a Navy veteran, posting this video on Facebook two weeks ago showing himself flying over Manhattan. The NTSB says he had 788 hours of flight time but investigators still calculating how much time he had spent in that particular helicopter. The operator, New York Helicopter Tours, has a good safety record. It flies hundreds of flights each week. Yeah, so no view of any bird strike is possible. You know, the video was not really clear enough.

But if you have, if it's mass bumping, you probably see the aircraft start to rotate a little bit more than it did. And also you probably wouldn't see the entire gearbox. I mean, it wasn't just the rotor that flew off, the whole gear. Telling you, cheap Chinese parts. You may be right. That is the only, it's got to be a maintenance issue. I believe this aircraft was refurbished a year or like 18 months ago. It's possible. You know, it's a bad day. Let's go meta. Let's go meta. All right.

It's not cheap Chinese parts. It was set up to fail so you could blame cheap Chinese parts as part of the negotiation. Well, why kill a family? CIA, they didn't like Siemens. Don't kill a family. This is no good. But you don't care. They brought that flight with that Russian dude in it. They just brought that whole, whatever plane it was, a Yuliaevich or whatever the hell it was. You mean the Russians took down a whole flight? Yeah. Well, that's the Russians. Oh yeah. But counterfeit.

We would never do that. Counterfeit cheap parts from China. Yes. And that would be a good message to have at this point in this chaotic moment. It would be a good message to have. Yeah, it's going to take a bad day. It'll take, it will take probably, I'm guessing, because you just don't bring it right up as though you have it at your fingertips, this information.

So there has to be a phony baloney investigation, which means that they will take about a week and they'll find cheap Chinese parts at the maintenance place, which would have been part of the... So once they start looking into the parts is when they're going to find the cheap Chinese knockoffs. Well, we got cheap Chinese parts in our military equipment. I mean, we know that for a fact. So why wouldn't it be this? Cheap phony bolts, bolts that are not SAE. Yeah. What is that, SAE?

That's a certification engine. It is a standard for bolts. You know, they test it. They take the bolt and then they twist it until it breaks. Real bolts made properly will, you know, take a lot more torque than a cheap phony bolt. I will say this is one of... So I have not flown a helicopter in over 10 years as a pilot or a passenger, because if I don't know who is maintaining it, I just won't get into it. Otherwise, I find them to be very safe.

I would say I prefer a fully rigid rotor head design, which would be your Augusta, your Sikorsky, or your Enstrom. For this very reason. You know, I just don't like that stuff flapping around. But I've flown them. I've flown a lot of them. So this is a bad day. Bad day for the family, of course, but bad day for aviation. Everyone's, ugh, ugh, no good. Don't get in a helicopter. I'll never get in a helicopter. Never, ever, ever.

Well, that goes along with all these crazy stories coming out of American Airlines. What's that? Well, people stripping on the... You know, having fights on the plane, stripping. That's in-flight entertainment. What are you talking about? That's fun. People are going nuts. They are. There's a lot of... What was, um, what was the, um, this story? They haven't done this in the past, but it just seems to be worse. Have you heard this story?

This morning, newly unsealed court documents allege this Wisconsin teenager, Nikita Kasap, killed his parents as part of a larger plot to assassinate the president and attempt to overthrow the U.S. government. Kasap's mother, Tatiana, and stepfather, Donald Mayer, were found shot and killed in their Waukesha home during a welfare check in late February. The body was, uh, appeared to have been deceased for some time, was unable to definitively identify who it was.

Investigators say the 17-year-old Kasap killed them to obtain the financial means and autonomy necessary to carry out his plan. Officials add they found material on the suspect's phone related to a neo-Nazi group described by the FBI as a satanic cult. They also say they discovered a three-page document, allegedly written by Kasap, calling for the start of a revolution to, quote, save the white race.

The documents allege Kasap paid, at least in part, for a drone and explosives and that other parties knew of Kasap's plan, adding some even offered advice and assistance. Kasap was arrested in Kansas after police say he drove through a stop sign in his parents' car. I'm wondering that, you know, some knew of it, offering assistance. I wonder if we're going to hear that FBI might have had this kid on their radar. It's got FBI written all over it. It is a six-week cycle, period.

Although, man, killing your parents and then hiding them, stuffing them in the closet until they decompose, that's pretty deranged. And then getting caught in Kansas. I mean, this kid is a lunatic. Maybe the kid went to Coachella and saw that Lady Gaga show. Holy mackerel. I said you had stuff there. Holy mackerel. I know, she's wearing, she's in the various sets she used were all satanic, including the one with the Baphomet hat. Yeah. What was she trying? What is she doing?

Well, she's calling out the dark forces of Satan, obviously. For what? What does she need the dark forces of Satan for? Is her sales down that much? Does she need more accolades? I mean, what is she looking for? Is she trying to get more, another Tony, Grammy or whatever she wants? Well, no. I guess Grammy. I think this is just, this is the other part of the deal. No, you get that. Is this part of the deal? She has to do this now? And forever? Well, Madonna's still doing it.

She's doing the same stuff. And she's starting to look like it too. She looks like the devil. She looks like hell. But I love the Cavalier reporting by the SFGate tech reporter, Steven Council, who was just saying, oh, it's great. And then she went into this, just great rendition of that. And it was great. And it's so awesome. SFGate, the entire, the journalists in the San Francisco Bay Area are oblivious to Satanism. Do they not see what's going on? No, they can't see it.

But it was a triumph of artistic teamwork and care and of joint catharsis. Gaga knows the basic truth that concerts are fun if everyone's dancing. And that choruses sound excellent when thousands of voices yell every word, Satan. That construct, basic hit laden, is in her wheelhouse 10 times out of 10. But it wouldn't have been enough. She gave Coachella more, and we're lucky to have seen it. I am lucky to have seen it. And did you see the crowd? They were lunatics. Coachella, man.

No, Coachella. Coachella. At this point, it's just, I mean, it was almost a throwback to, you know, five or, you know, five years ago. She just brought it back with a vengeance. Dark forces, very dark. It's dark, this lady. Very, very dark. Yeah. I mean, I'm not even, I wouldn't call myself a religious type like you. I'm a Jesus freak, I'm not religious. But I can see it a mile away. It's like, what does it take a genius if you're wearing a Baphomet headdress? I mean, come on.

It's kind of a giveaway, Lady Gaga. Just a little bit of a giveaway. Like, holy mackerel. What are you doing? It wasn't even close to trying to cover it up. It wasn't. It was just, wow. It was, wow. So let's talk about the chaos for a second, because I will have to say that there is some level of, well, actually, let's go to one of the progenitors of the chaos meme. She's in the supercut several times, and she kept bringing it up during this interview on ABC with Jonathan Karl.

These are all the Sunday shows. Thank you, brother Steve, Steve Jones of the Jones Cartel, for doing these. He sends them to me like, you know, half an hour before show time so I can just listen to them. Here she is about the chaos, the tariff craziness. We had this exemption on all electronics, and he said that the reason is because they're going to impose new tariffs in the coming months. What do you send? What's going on here? What's going on? Look, there is no tariff policy. Look, look.

It's just all chaos and corruption. That's all- Hold on. Do you hear that she's back to the old meme? Chaos and corruption. Yeah, she went back to chaos and corruption. Yeah, Liz, this is Chuck. We already decided we would keep it just a chaos. Please don't bring back the chaos and corruption. It doesn't work. You're talking too fast for Schumer. Yeah, well, I'm trying to get back to the clip. The tariff policy. It's just all chaos and corruption. That's all we have going on.

What's the evidence for corruption, by the way? What is the corruption part of it? I don't get it. And how can you believe any of these guys? What did Donald Trump tweet? Oh, I'm sorry. It was chaos and confusion. Oh, chaos and confusion. Now she's made it even worse. You know, she is- Freelancing, she's freelancing. You have to remember that Elizabeth Warren was an inch away of almost becoming president when Hillary was running the first time around.

Because Elizabeth Warren was seen because she was an up-and-comer. She was a superstar. And then she's- I don't know what happened to her. She's not even close to being what she was then. She's just an old, crazy old lady. I know what happened is when she said to her husband, you want a beer? That's when everybody went, no, no, no, you're good. You stay in your cocoon, Liz. All right, back to chaos and corruption. There is no tariff policy. It's just all chaos and corruption.

That's all we have going on. And how can you believe any of these guys? What did Donald Trump tweet out, all in caps? I will not back down. How many hours was that? 24 hours, 30 hours before he turned around and backed down. They talk about an emergency. They've got a 10% tariff on basically every country in the world everywhere. What's the emergency that we have with Belgium or the emergency we have with South Korea? So look, these guys are into chaos and into corruption. They're into it.

Like Baphomet, they're into chaos and corruption. And this is the reason that it is time for Congress to step up and to say under the authority that the president is currently using by declaring these national emergencies. No, the law says specifically Congress can just say there's no national emergency across the board here and revoke that authority from the president. That will mean we can go back to having actually a real tariff policy. Congress will have its position in place.

And then we can negotiate where we need to negotiate. But we got to stop this craziness. It's really- It's really a cold day in hell when Elizabeth Warren and Rand Paul agree with each other. Because that's what this is about. This is about, we got to take it back. Only, and by the way, they're senators. But okay, the House of Representatives. Isn't it just the House that has the power of the purse? The House is the purse strings, yeah. But Rand Paul is on this too.

He's like, oh, whatever happens, we got to stop it here. Instead of, I don't know, take a risk, man. Help pass the tax cut for everybody. I understand that you want to effectively repeal, if I have it right, the 1977 law that they're using to justify this. No, no, no. It's, I just want to use the law. That's right. And use the part that says, no, when the president declares an emergency, it is then up to Congress to say, okay, by standing by.

Or to say, no, there is not the kind of emergency that you have declared. I want us to follow the law. Very rich from someone who always voted yes for war without actually voting on it. Just, president says war, let's do it, it's fine. When's the last time we had an actual resolution to go to war? Was that- The World War II. I think that was, I don't think we had one since. Okay, so, but that law does not mention the power to tariff.

And as you heard me also ask the Secretary of Commerce- Now it kind of makes sense that they wanted everybody to hear the words, no, tariff is a tax, it's a tax, tariff is a tax, it's a tax, it's just a tax, it's a tax on the people, tariff is a tax, it's a tax on the people. The Constitution itself makes it clear that the power to impose duties, tariffs- Duties. Lies with Congress. There's also a constitutional challenge here. Do you think the courts are going to step in here?

We don't want that to happen. The courts may step in here, but we don't have to wait for the courts to step in here. Look- Look, look. Every Democrat is ready to go- Look. To push back and take away from the president the power he's now exercising and the chaos he's now creating. The question is whether or not the Republicans will join us in this. There will be a vote in about 15 days, and the Republicans can either decide that their entire job is to do- She's hyperventilating.

You know, that's what makes it interesting to listen to. Nothing but- You know, another thing is, where is this chaos? In her mind, it's in her brain. If you just say chaos a lot on television and it gets through to social media, then people- Wow, man. Did you hear about the chaos? Yeah, I heard about some chaos. There's a lot of chaos going on. They're drumming it up. They're ginning it up.

That their entire job is to do nothing but bow down to Donald Trump, or the Republicans in Congress can say that their job is to stand up for the American people and to stand up for the American economy. Yeah, yeah. Well, I have one more clip and then we'll be done with her. So where do Democrats stand on this fundamental issue, tariffs good or bad? Well, I think that- Whoa, hold on a second. Trick question. The Democrats- You have to- I'm just- Just a little background for everybody out there.

Yes. Traditionally- Yes, they've been all for it. The Democrats have- The Democrats versus the Republicans. The Democrats have always been for heavy duty tariffs for both economic reasons and protectionist reasons. The Republicans have traditionally always been dead set against all tariffs. Yes. And they want free trade. And so we could dig up clips. We don't have them handy. At least I don't have them. Hillary Clinton, Obama- Hillary Clinton, Schumer. Bill Clinton, Schumer. All of them.

All of them. Obama, the old- Warren Buffett in 2005. Everybody's been all for it. On and on and on about how we need to tariff, especially China. So this is a trick question. And of course, because Trump is now on the Democrat side of the argument. Oh, now we got to switch side. We can't have it. Yeah. I love her little pause here. Here we go. Well, I think- You shouldn't ask me that, Carl. I think Democrats are entirely united. That Donald Trump's across-the-board tariffs are bad.

They make no economic sense. No economic sense. But that doesn't mean there aren't specific cases where tariffs make a lot of sense. If you have a plan in mind, a goal in mind, tariffs can be a tool in the economic toolbox. So she is now on board with the, okay, tariffs, yes, but I don't like how he's doing it. It's chaotic. But remember the underline here. And I think you're right to focus on prices and costs. What did Donald Trump say on day one? He said on day one, he would lower prices.

That's what he ran on. Once he got elected, his first interview, he said the reason he won is because he said on day one, he would lower prices. He's six weeks in when someone points out to him that the tariff policy he's pursuing is likely to raise prices. Listen to this false argument. What do you call it? False equivalency. The prices of mainly gasoline have come down dramatically. Yeah. A dollar for me, a dollar, it's noticeable. And even eggs, the egg prices.

Yes. Why you don't have many stores? Is that the eggs? The problem with the eggs prices is they haven't come down universally. And so they'll find some place where the eggs are still expensive. Believe me, I found the clip. But so now she's saying, oh, no, but he said he'll bring prices down. But what he's doing is going to make them go up even though prices have come down. And he said he couldn't care less. And that's the problem. I don't remember him saying that. He said he couldn't care less.

He couldn't care less. Couldn't care less. And that's the problem we've got. Donald Trump and the Republicans. So the problem is not tariffs. It's that he said he couldn't care less. Are it's like they've taken a five gallon bucket of paint and just thrown it across the economy and said there, that'll take care of everything. They said Elizabeth Warren, some kind of super economists that I'm unaware of. Because she's using such great analogs as a five gallon of paint thrown across the economy.

This is you're right. She's very unhinged here. It's hysterical. Yeah, we're trying to put tariffs in place on every country, on virtually every product that they export to the United States. And they're trying to do it all at once with no policy in mind. So I hear from a small business here in Massachusetts who says, gosh, I'm a fabricator. I bring in raw materials from other countries. I then make my product here in the United States and export it to other countries.

What's weak about her argument here is if you're a politician, you just say, you know, Bill, Bill the Welder, or, you know, she has no name. She has no company name. She has no actual product. So she's just making it up. He said what Donald Trump is doing just completely destroys my business. I just close up shop. That's all I can do. That's just even been in place yet. But all of a sudden, all of a sudden it's done. Yes, exactly. Doesn't care about costs for families.

Doesn't care about what this does for small businesses. He doesn't care. Instead, he's off trying to make Republicans bend a knee and say whatever he wants them to say and trying to get world leaders to suck up to him. Congress has the ability to put a stop to that, and we need to put a stop to it now. She's shaking when she says this. Her whole head is shaking. She's a wreck. This bend the knee thing is also getting annoying. Oh, I hadn't actually caught that. Bend the knee. That's good.

That's good. You're right. Bend the knee. So then what happened? What I thought was odd is, you know, so we got a an executive order and the clarification of this came out two days ago. Clarification of exceptions under executive order 14-257 of April 2nd as 2025 as amended. And it doesn't maybe I don't understand. There's a lot of legal. I need the constitutional lawyer. But it's really about semiconductors. Now, does an iPhone qualify as semiconductors?

I think the cellular phones were mentioned specifically. Well, not in what I see. Well, semiconductors, they got them in there. I don't know. My understanding is that computers, cell phones and semiconductor are all exempt. This is what I'm so afraid of is that, you know, that's my understanding, too. But I can't find any actual verbiage that says it's about cell phones. I see semiconductors everywhere, but I don't see cell phones. So I'm just curious if this has just been thrown out there.

Let me see. No, nobody's arguing against it. Nobody's saying it's not cell phones. You're the only one so far. That's right. That's right. I'm arguing against this. I don't know. No more. No, keep them out. I'm so disappointed. Get rid of these cell phones. You're talking about the fact that this is Kristen Welker, your girl with Peter Navarro. This was this Peter. Is Peter Navarro on his way out? It feels like he's he's been. Oh, he's definitely on his.

He's he gets more airtime than anybody because he's crazy. He says crazy stuff. No wonder. Look, you're talking about. Why stop with the look? Look, you're talking about the fact that the White House has a strategy. The Commerce Secretary, the Treasury Secretary, the president himself said there would not be exclusions. And yet just yesterday there were exclusions. So is there, in fact, a plan or is the president making this up as he goes? So the policy is no exemptions, no exclusions.

The policy is in effect. There were not exclusions. Let me explain. This is really good for the American people. I understand there's like different ways to go about getting fairness for the American people. The IEPA is also used for the trade deficit. But there's also a really important thing, Chris, and this deals with the chips issue you're talking about. But that's what we call this. You know, I've been listening to this guy. He sounds plastered half the time. He's always slurring.

And in this case, I heard it again. They say that it was where I see this guy. Yeah, that would explain a lot. I'm wondering. All right, I'm sorry. No, I thought there was a second. I thought it was a comma. I'm wondering. I thought I thought there was something. Oh, I'm just one. No, I'm wondering whether he's like an alcoholic. Oh, thank Chris. And this deals with the chips issue you're talking about.

That's what we call the Section 232 issue, which is when we have a flood of imports being dumped into certain key strategic sectors. OK, hold on a second. I'm reading. This comes from Lutnick. And Lutnick said all those products, cell phones, laptops, et cetera, are going to come under semiconductors and are going to have a special focus type of tariff to make sure that those products get reassured. So they don't. It was Lutnick, our commerce secretary, who said electronic devices.

But it is specifically mentioned as semiconductors. And now we have to we have to go and get it. You know, so, yeah, I guess it has other stuff in there. But sure, it's filled with semiconductors. So anyway, it's just just a point of note into certain key strategic sectors, steel, aluminum chips, pharmaceuticals, as we learned during covid, we have to take specific action.

So what we're doing with chips, a problem, interestingly, for chips, because it's very complex stuff, is that we don't buy a lot of chips like in bags. We buy them in products. So what Secretary of Commerce Howard Lutnick is going to do is doing it as we speak is an investigation of the chip supply chain. The goal is stability and resilience. And you will see actions taken based on those investigations on copper. We've already have steel and aluminum. We already have autos.

There will be pharmaceuticals and there will be chips. And the important thing is there's three kinds. There's the high end chips, which is the future. OK, we've got to get control of that. And then there's everything else that fuels our autos and on down. I will. It's not chaos, but it's unclear. I mean, you can say, well, copper, but there's copper in iPhones. So, you know, there's chips in washing machines. So this is a little sketchy. It's not my washing machine.

No, you're happy if there's a motor on it. You don't have to crank it by hand. Fair enough. I hear what you're saying on investigation. But there is currently an exclusion for some of these products. You want to call it exclusion? Potatoes, potatoes. What it is, well, potatoes, potatoes. Let's say let's just let's just put it this way. Navarro should not be a spokeshole for anything. If I were the president, I'd be like, hey, Pete, Pete, baby, come back here. Sit down. Be quiet.

You're not good at doing this. Potatoes, potatoes. What it is, well, but let's say let's just here's I think another thing that's really important when people talk about the chaos or lack of strength, whatever you just go back to day one. I was there when the president signed. It was the second to last order he signed. It was in the old. You're right. He does sound a bit slurry there. I was I was there in the Oval when the president signed. I was there with a fifth.

It's the second to last order he signed. It was in the old world that night. And it was the American first trade policy which laid out every single thing we're doing. And it would be remiss for anybody in the media not to review that carefully and see that there's there's rhyme to our reason and rhythm to what we're doing. There's rhyme to the reason and the rhythm to the bang, bang, bang, bang, shoebox, baby.

But now the administration is actually on its website saying that they're offering refunds for some of these. Oh, no, no, no. It sounds very random to me. That would be it's random, random chaos. No, it's also got if you want to hear, I've got Ro Khanna on this with Margaret. Here, let's play this. Ro Ro Khanna. In the coming days, you're also going to go to Connecticut to Yale Law on Tuesday. Are you trying to sort of troll Vice President Vance? And if so, why?

Well, no. Cleveland City Club invited me to give a speech on the economy. And let's talk about these tariffs. I mean, they were chaotic. Yes, Ro Khanna. But what does he got to do with anything that they'd invite him to give a speech on the economy? And he's going to use the word chaos. I heard that. OK. And they were totally haphazard. So you had Howard Lutnick on saying that we were going to bring manufacturing back and electronics manufacturing back to the United States.

And they realized suddenly that that wasn't going to happen. Actually, the iPhone price would go up to. Oh, OK. So this is spiking the ball. Hey, boys, remember we said that iPhone was going to be three and a half thousand dollars. Everybody bought it. They buckled under it. Seventeen hundred or two thousand dollars. And by the way, if that manufacturing moved, it would probably move to Malaysia or Vietnam. So they suddenly reverse.

They exempt all of electronics manufacturing, which is about a third of our trade deficit. And I'm here at the Cleveland City Club to say, if you want to have electronics manufacturing here, the way to do it is not blanket tariffs. You have to create an electronic manufacturing hub. The kind we did with the chipsack is investing in tool engineering and workforce. It means having investment tax credit. It means having government buy things from the United States.

The president has no plan of how to actually have high end advanced manufacturing in the United States. All right. I think that Lutnick is the bad actor here. I think Lutnick said something he shouldn't have. And he probably said it from pressure because he is he's a hedge fund guy. I think he got pressured into saying, I will. Maybe he's just in love with his iPhone. I don't know.

Well, we didn't get a clear answer on when these semiconductor tariffs are coming, but the administration argues they're in the pipeline and that, you know, China is not going to get a free pass when it comes to tech. What is that going to mean for your part of the country? Well, it's again, they don't have any sense of when the tariff will come, when it won't come. And they're against the chipsack. So how are you going to let's say you suddenly put tariffs on China?

What it would mean is the production would move to other parts of Asia. It still isn't going to come here unless you're financing those factories here, willing to buy here. Tariffs can be a tool used as a broader Hamiltonian industrial policy. And that's what I'm here in Ohio to talk about, which is what is actually going to bring advanced manufacturing to this country. What is the harmonized Hamiltonian? What is Hamiltonian? Did Hamilton do tariffs? I don't know. I don't remember.

So I'm looking under the definition. I know Jefferson did, and it caused an economic collapse. Let me see. Semiconductors. Well, I got some clips. OK, please. Well, I'll look up. Let's start. I'm still I'm still digging in this. I got some trade analysis clips, which are be part of this, which is part about tariffs, actually. But let's start with this tariff high tech reprieve kicker clip. Seconds. Here we go.

Apple, NVIDIA and other tech companies landed major relief in President Trump exempting smartphones and other electronics from new tariffs. As NPR's Bobby Allen reports, the tech industry had been bracing itself for a major shock. U.S. Customs and Border Protection published tariff exclusions late Friday that include smartphones, laptops, memory chips and machines that create semiconductors. Fear of a sudden spike in the price of iPhones sent some customers rushing to buy new devices.

And Apple charted a cargo plane from India to fly 600 tons of iPhones out to avoid the new levies. But Apple and NVIDIA, two of the most valuable companies in the world, have for now won a reprieve. The Trump administration has pushed tech companies to manufacture more electronics in the U.S. But executives say the cost of labor, advanced supply chains abroad, along with hyper-specialized workers would make moving production to the U.S. in some cases nearly impossible.

Impossible to do it here because we're a bunch of dummies. Our education system is teaching gender studies instead of electronics engineering. Let's face reality. Let's talk about that a little bit. So they mentioned that in that report, 600 tons of iPhones. That's quite a lot of iPhones. Coming out of India. What are they doing in India? I don't know. They made them. They thought Foxconn made them all in China. What are they doing? What's India got to do with it?

What happened to the Foxconn plant in Ohio? Oh, yeah, that was a rumor. Yeah, yeah, that was a first go round of more showing that we can't do anything anymore because, well, teaching kids gender studies and turning them and having their nuts chopped off doesn't really help. Um, okay, let's go to my now I'm going to trade analysis. This is Michael. Now, this I picked up from from the Mark Levin show on his TV show on Fox.

Yes, and he Michael Pillsbury's the China expert at the Heritage Foundation. He's quite good. These clips are and I can and he goes on. This is just a part of a longer talk, but this is good stuff. Yeah, trade analysis. I see it. I'm just looking to make sure I get the right one. As I understand it, the Chinese economy is hurting right now.

And number two, if they actually want to go toe to toe with the United States in a tariff war because most of these other countries want to meet with President Trump and negotiate some kind of deal, apparently China does not. Or at least they want to save face. They don't want to show that they do. How's that going to wind up for China? Well, it's a big risk for China either way.

If they make concessions and try to get President Trump off their back, the risk is their economy will will be even slower in its growth rate. And the politics will be that there'll be challengers to Xi Jinping that he's been too soft on the Americans and he's a coward. This has happened before in Chinese history. The Chinese Communist Party has what they call the 10 big struggles. And each time the party chairman was kicked out, sometimes murdered.

So that's that's one side for Xi Jinping to be thinking about. Should I meet President Trump halfway, head off a trade war? Or the other choice entirely is be tough. Do not give anything. And Xi Jinping has a record of wanting to tell what he calls the global South, Mark. That's like three billion people. He wants to portray China as an honest sort of advocate of fairness for the global South. That means less money for people like you and me who live in the global north.

So there's a big incentive to Xi Jinping to be tough, to do nothing and to steer things around like he did the first time this happened. Back in 2017, he got talk started with delegations. In that case, there were 13 rounds, Mark, 13 rounds of negotiations back and forth, back and forth, one in Beijing, one back in Washington. President Trump brought the Chinese negotiator into the Oval Office in front of the media, tried to put pressure on him that way.

That agreement was, Mr. Trump said, I agree with him, was wonderful. It was great. It was all time historical agreement between the two biggest economies. And the Chinese proceeded to not honor it in almost any way at all. Hmm. Yes, there was his fight. What I don't have in clip, though, is he's saying that if you're going to have, he says Trump's a little wiser this time around.

He's going to bring in people that don't trust China, which every time he said it, it was like I kept thinking of the clip. Don't trust China. Hold on a second. Here it is. Donald Trump, don't trust China. There you go. That was wise words. That was our first trade representative. So here we go with clip two. So that could be the model for what we're going to see over the coming year is Chinese stalling. That's a key word.

They'll stall us and make the minimum concessions to prevent really massive tariffs being put on them and other kinds of punishment and just try to wait Mr. Trump out. If these tariffs stay in place, I mean, we're talking about massive tariffs for a period of What will that do to China's economy? Well, it depends on what China's trading partners do and on the Chinese consumer market.

What Xi Jinping has been up to the last two or three years is saying we have to turn inward and have our own people, our own rising middle class buy our products and to some degree rely much less on the Americans or the European Union. That's the thrust of what Xi Jinping is doing, and I think you know why. He's been anticipating this kind of tariff attack from Mr. Trump. When I was last in China about a year ago, I got an earful of how they're getting ready for Trump. They're not afraid of him.

They can outlast him for two or three years and don't believe anything negative about our Chinese economy. That's the official Chinese propaganda line. Our economy is doing fine. We're going to have 5% growth next year. You Americans will be lucky to get 1 .5 or 2%. So we're going to be double or triple your American growth rate. So this is what's been coming out of China. That's pretty funny. Hey, we're going to be double or triple. Yes, our current growth rate is what?

0.6. So yeah, OK, 1.5 is triple. We're going to be double or triple your American growth rate. So this is what's been coming out of China. Now, is that a lie? Is that bluster? Do they just not know? This is what we're going to have to find out. And I'm afraid it's going to be the hard way, just like in President Trump's first term. He's going to have to get the talks going and get documents down in writing that say, you know, we will do this. We will not do that. Here's a question for you.

Did the initial tariffs that President Trump put in and President Biden kept in on China, did that raise the price of iPhones? I think iPhones stayed the same, didn't they? Generally speaking, maybe adjusted for a little bit of inflation. Well, you have to base it on the margin. It looks like the margin didn't change much. OK, so that and that was what that was. What was it? Do you know the tariff rate? 20 percent? I don't know. It wasn't 145. That's for sure. No, no, it wasn't. OK, we continue.

The final agreement last time, the January 2020 agreement, Mark, that was 90 pages long with annexes and definitions of things. So I hate to see that go through, happen again. I'd much rather see President Trump escalate and really have a superpower showdown between China and ourselves so we don't get stalled for for two or three more years and then have an agreement that's not honored. 30 percent on solar panels in 2018. But it looks like there was two rounds of 10 percent.

iPhones didn't go up 20 percent. This is bullcrap. And by the way, I thank you for these clips. I have taken the moment to take a look. There is no specific mention of electronics or iPhones. That's all Lutnick. So the interpretation of semiconductors is quite broad, according to Howard Lutnick. I think he's just throwing that out there. I don't think that's actually true. If he's just throwing it out, that means they're going to collect tariffs.

I don't think they're going to collect the tariffs. And there's a lot of reports now that I collected half the tariffs anyway. Well, there was a computer glitch the first day. The first 10 hours of shipments that came in, they didn't calculate it. There was no tariff calculation at all. Good work, everybody. By the way, a short review. I got my Light Phone 3 in, just speaking of expensive phones. How much, what do you mean by expensive? Well, this is $500. I thought it's quite expensive.

That is, pretty pricey. But if you want a solid phone that is small, has a long-lasting battery life, that does only the basics, and by basics, I mean phone, text, calendar, camera, alarm, pictures, calculator, podcasts, directions, hotspot, and music, this is a great device. Great for the kids, I would say. Better than some wonky iPhone. There's no internet, no browser, no apps. And John, the screen is gorgeous. It's just... Is it O-L-E-D? It is, yes. It's gorgeous.

So it has that paper, kind of digital paper, O-L-E-D. But when you receive or you take a picture or you send or receive one through text message, it's gorgeous. It's just gorgeous. I'm doing my best Tim Cook. It's gorgeous. It's just so gorgeous. Great phone. This has replaced my flip phone. Really, really quite outstanding. You and Leo are always into the phone thing. No, but I'm into cheap phones and cheap cheddar. $500 is not a cheap phone.

It's not cheap, but it's a lot cheaper than anything. Well, for what it is, if I had a kid and I'm sending him to school, I'd give my kid this phone. It's durable. It does a lot of things. It doesn't do any of the things. The problem with what you just said is that the kids waste their time in school messaging, and that thing messages. So what's the difference? Yeah, they won't be on the browser, maybe. They won't be doom scrolling. Okay, the one advantage is they won't be doom scrolling TikTok.

Yeah, or using Snapchat. But they'll be texting and checking their email. No, you can't check your email on it. No, well, that's a plus. No email. No, you can't check your email. You can only text. Yeah. Oh, okay. I'm just saying it's gorgeous. It's absolutely gorgeous. Yeah, you said that. You like saying that. I don't know why you're doing it. I don't know why you're not interested in a beautiful piece of technology. You used to be like a tech guy. You say, give me that phone.

Let me change it to Korean. I mean, you know. Can you do that? Yes, of course. No, then I'd do that. That would be good. Yeah. Actually, Russian's a good one. Anything. Chinese is great. Chinese is the best. It's the best. Yeah, because you'll never figure out how to get out of that. Okay, let's stay on the tariffs. But let's go to the EU. Well, no, before we go to the EU, this is one that has kind of an Ask John in it.

This is the CEO of the big beer conglomerate who make Corona and Modelo and all those Mexican beers. He has a complaint, and I have a question about his complaint. The company has spent billions the past few years building up their production capacity in Mexico. I believe you'll spend another, what, $2 billion building out a plant in Veracruz over the next 12 months. I think this administration would say, Bill, why didn't Bill Nuland invest those billions in the U.S. in making beer?

Can you build a beer-making plant in the U.S. and make profitable beer doing so? I think there's a couple of things, Brian, you have to keep in mind. First of all, while we're an American company, we're invested in Mexico because we are selling authentic Mexican brands. These are not brands in the same way that you're not making champagne in the United States, or you're not making tequila in the United States, or you're not making New Zealand Sauvignon Blanc in the United States.

We're not going to be making Mexican beer in the United States. Is that a fair comparison between champagne? I mean, is there something special about the ingredients in Mexico that this is why Corona has to be made in Mexico? No. There's nothing special about the ingredients at all. It just happens to be made in Mexico. You can't sell Mexican beer made in Palo Alto. It has Mexican beer. We could call it Corona. You could call it that, but then it would have to be made in Palo Alto.

This was just technical. Right. Because champagne, you actually have to have... That's a law. That's by law. You can make a champagne clone, and they do very... For example, in Brazil, they do it here too, sparkling California wines. It used to be called champagne. You used to sell California sparkling wines as champagne, as we say, California champagne. Yeah, then the French got all tested. The French, no, they weren't putting up with that. For good reason.

That was an international standard that was agreed upon. It's the grapes from that region, just like the agave. I don't think agave... No, the grapes from that region, the champagne can be duplicated. Although you can say, well, there's chalky soil. You can duplicate. I've had champagne wine, style wine, made with the method Champanoise, the way they call it. They made in Brazil. That is the closest thing I've ever had to taste exactly like champagne. Yeah, they just can't call it champagne.

I guess what I was saying is there's nothing special about... There's no law that says you can't make Corona in America and just call it Corona. Yeah, you can't say... You could say it's Mexican beer by concept. You should be able to make the exact same... You should be able to make it a duplicate. You should be able to make a copy of Corona beer in Palo Alto that tastes exactly like the same Corona, which smells a little bit like pee. I was going to say, the guy is... But he's equating...

By the way, you know that... Here's the story. They always said, oh, the Mexicans are peeing in it. That was the reason it would smell like pee. But I was at a Safeway or Lucky's, one of these big grocery stores. They had a big pile of Corona that somebody had knocked over the whole thing. And so there was like, I'd say, 50 broken bottles of Corona on the floor. They were mopping up. And it smelled just like a pee, like you're in a outhouse. It just smelled terrible.

It's a terrible smelling beer. Well, this is a tremendous opportunity. We have a lot of beer makers in America. We have a lot of beer makers in our audience. I think we should start making a new brand. Corona made in Palo Alto. It doesn't seem to be hard to make. It shouldn't be. I mean, you have to know what you're doing. Making beers. We had a guy whose name was Brewer at Amevio, who was a beer maker. I thought his name was... He had to become a... I think he became one.

He's working somewhere. But his beers were... I know a lot of people that make homemade beer. And it's just, it's not as easy. I mean, sometimes there's always a guy out there that seems to be able to have the touch, but there's still some magic to it. It's amazing. We had No Agenda beer at one point. Do you remember that? Yes, it was out of New Zealand. It was good too. It was very good. I don't know what happened to those guys. They visited here. I met with them. Yes, yes. They were...

They brought a bunch of weird No Agenda beer, and they had some other beers that had ITM and stuff written on them. 33s. I heard us say something, I guess, against New Zealand, whatever the hell her name is. And they went away. Although noagendabeer.com still forwards to noagendashow.net. How about that? So that's still alive. That's still alive. Okay. Well, thank you for explaining that. And the... There wasn't much to it. Méthode Champanoise.

But here's what our European Union allies are doing. The traitors. The European Union has temporarily paused its counter -tariffs against the United States to further pursue talks with Donald Trump's administration on how to resolve what was shaping up to be an all-out trade war. According to the president of the EU Commission, Ursula von der Leyen, the suspension will remain in place for at least 90 days.

The counter-tariffs imposed in reaction to Trump's duties on steel and aluminium were approved on Wednesday by member states, targeting almost 21 billion euros in American products. The first raft, worth 3.9 billion euros, was scheduled to go into effect on the 15th of April before the change. The EU bloc had initially been hit by a 20% rate under Trump's sweeping tariffs, shocking Brussels and other capitals.

The EU Commission, which has exclusive competence to determine the commercial policy for the 27-member bloc, has been trying to figure out how to respond to Washington's trade tariffs. Uh, opportunity knocks. Just because we're talking about, yeah, yeah, phones and everything. Recall our hollow book idea. Yeah. The hollow book idea is, the cover of the book, you help me out here, the book would say, I'm paraphrasing, this book will help you get off of your smartphone addiction.

We need a snappier title, but did we have, did we have, a snappy title for that? We don't have a snappy title, no. So, uh, at church this morning, uh, one of the singers came up to me and said, I was listening to your show. I like that. And she said, Hobby Lobby has a $7 hollow book ready for, ready for a, uh, just a cover. You put a jacket on that thing. Boom. Good to go. Hollow book. Just seven bucks is too high. Ah, you could sell this book with a cover on it for 25 bucks.

You're just making up reasons to not do this. No. I love this idea. Yeah, you do. And your phone goes. And so all we have to do is print up the cover. Why is that too high? People will buy a premium product from the Noah Jenner show. And what is really the premium part is our cover. That's really what it's about. It's, you still put your cell phone in there. Well, let's design a cover and we'll have a competition. Wow. The enthusiasm you are exuding is just beyond belief.

I'm excited about this idea. Yeah, I know you are, but you're the one that still uses a phone. I have one in the drawer. I'll put mine in the book. You make it, I'll put it in the book. I'm, I think you're, you're underestimating the addictive nature. Yeah, I think we can sell a few gimmick books. I'm not saying you can't. You said earlier that this could sell like 20,000 units is what you said. 20,000, I readjusted my thinking to a thousand, maybe.

And it's only still as a gimmick, as a Christmas gift, a goof. Because nobody, the more we play these clips and the more I listen to you go on about a $500 phone that does text. I'm thinking that you can't, this is done. It's over. The society is ruined by these things. And then you're not going to, it's wishful thinking on your part. Putting the kill in buzzkill, ladies and gentlemen. I would give up my phone for this, for this. No, you wouldn't. Yes, I would. I don't care about the phone.

Look, just because you're so awesome, I've got the phone in the drawer. Okay. I'm not saying I'm awesome. I'm a, I am an outlier. Yes. Minimum. Yes. That's my point. This is a real, there's a real crisis of people using these smartphones. And, and this book will be great. People can put it in there and they will think of us and they will, uh, and they will stop using their phone and, and, and a thousand years. That's it. That's what it takes. That's all it takes to stop using your phone.

Listen, it's a great idea. It's a fun gift. I think it's got legs. We have another, another guy sent us another company that looks promising. That can make the whole thing. Oh yeah. If someone has to make the whole package, you'll never do it. Think about the microphone company, how well we'd be doing with that. Yeah. We'd be broke right now because of the tariffs. No, I saw, I saw that coming. We would, we would have had our whole shipment in.

We would have had a warehouse full of Curry one microphones and tons of potential. Don't worry. We'll get that done. That'll be done. Yeah. Four more years. Okay. All right. All right. What else we got? Well, there's a lot of stuff going on. I have a lot of Tik TOK clips. Oh, please. I can't handle it. I wanted to play one of them right off the bat. The rest of them we can, we'd do later. Thank God. But, but since this came up kind of in the conversation, what is this?

Play this April 20th Tik TOK clip. If Trump declares martial law on April 20th, which is the rumor, we're in deep doo doo. I'm terrified. This is absolutely terrifying as a woman, as an American. Is this the handmaid's tale? This martial law would surpass all police. How terrifying? Like what, what do I need to do as a woman to prepare? Help me help me help others. I'm so freaking nervous. I hate him. I hate the orange clown.

Wow. So this is a, a follow on to the delusional Dem I had on the last show. Yeah. Who said that there was a president Trump is going to declare martial law on April 20th. Yeah. 420 Easter. Yeah. Yeah. That makes nothing but sense. You're going to declare martial law on Easter Sunday. I don't think so. And for some reason, this is going to create a handmaid's tale situation. I don't know what it's creating. This is one of many of these clips. I didn't collect a bunch of them.

I got that one, but you had one. That's why I didn't, you know, you'd be, well, where is this rumor coming from? And why is it becoming popular? Well, it's like a quantum dots. Grid going down, going down. It's exactly the same coming from people who don't have a hollow book to put their phone in. And that's where this is coming from. I have a follow on clip though. Speaking of handmaid's tale. Tonight, this message is gaining steam.

So let me say very simply, I want more babies in the United States of America. Yeah. Yeah. You're going to be the handmaid's tale. We're going to make you have babies, making the baby machines. Well, it's led to what's called the pro -natalist movement. Pro-natalist. And it's getting more popular because of messages from Vice President Vance and Elon Musk, who of course has at least 13 children with multiple women. CNN's Nina Durstin is out front at the - No, no, he has a new one.

He's got a new one. I don't think that one's real. It's a fake baby. With multiple women. CNN's Nina Durstin is out front at the 2025 Natal Conference. Because yes, there is a conference. There's a conference. Raise your hand if you are a mom or a dad in the room here tonight. This is the war for civilization and we are going to win it one life at a time.

We're here at NatalCon, which is a gathering of about 200 people from all over the world who have come here because they all feel very strongly that the world needs more babies. There's a civilizational catastrophe coming and the way to solve it is to have sex. That's got to be the easiest pitch in history. Birth rates around the world are plummeting and they think this is the issue of our time. It's a massive conversation and that's why we're here.

We need to encourage more people to get married and have kids. We need those people to be the people of the future. Many countries are no longer having enough kids to replace their populations. Some experts predict this will cause labor shortages and inflation, permanently changing the economy. The people most passionate about this call themselves pronatalists. Pronatalists. So we had a table conversation over at dinner. And J.C. claims he's got some documentation for this and I think he does.

It seems as though when we went to a negative birth rate, and it may be a socialist thing that's taken place, and it goes right back to Hollywood. When TV shows had kids on the TV shows and there was kids around and family shows that showed a lot of children to the public, we had a higher birth rate. The TV, yes, no doubt. I mean, it makes sense as soon as you say it. It sounds, oh, yeah, that makes sense because you're seeing examples. You know, you had your Ozzie and Harriet.

You had your Father Knows Best. You had the Donna Reacher. You had all these shows. The Brady Bunch. Very good example. So you had all these shows with kids and, you know, the humor that kids provide. And it's good television. And that's very slowly evolved into no kids on any shows. And you remember we had America's Funniest Home Videos kids? Right. I think a lot of people, oh, look at those cute kids doing stupid, funny stuff. I want one of those. But no, no. Instead, we got Modern Family.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Run by that guy Zucker, one of the producers of that show, the major, major, major Trump hater. And anti-American. I think the anti-Americanism is stemming right out of Hollywood. Sure. And it's trying to kill the culture. Let's just say no more kids. Let's just let us all die off. And that'll be the end of it. And we'll be all good to go. Yeah. Yay. Woo. That sounds groovy. So it wouldn't take that much to crank it up, crank the key. You don't have these bull crap.

You have to have the vice president telling people to have kids. Nobody's going to listen to that. But if they saw it, you have to see it. Yeah. Yeah. Well, but Hollywood isn't even Hollywood anymore. I mean, the people are watching the movies on Netflix. And from what I can tell, it's all either outer space or Marvel. Armageddon. Yeah. A lot of Armageddon, the end of the world stuff. Yeah. No, it's creating. That's the problem. The culture generation that goes on from the Hollywood.

I'm just using Hollywood as a generic term because you're right. There's no Hollywood anymore. No. But that process is ruining the country. Yeah, we should be shot. Where's Shirley Temple? We need a new Shirley Temple. We need guys like Brunetti actually doing some work again. Oh, please. No, he got his money. He's like, I got my money. I got my cyber truck. I love my truck. I got my truck and I love what I do. I got my fire truck.

I'll be sitting there waiting for Scaramunga to create a whole movie with AI. Brunetti should be ashamed of himself. He took the best of this country. This country gave him enormous opportunity, enabled him to make incredible amounts of money off of the House of Cards and Fifty Shades of Gray. How about Fifty Kids from Dorian Gray? I mean, just do something. Do something to help America. Fifty Kids of Dorian Gray. I'm just trying to come up with something. Yeah, you can go. Yeah, thanks. Sorry.

No, it's actually, it's despicable. It really is. I'll take his side because he says it's not possible because he says it's gone so far left you can't get a word in edgewise. You can't do it. If you're a conservative producer in Hollywood, you just can't get it done. There is an incredible surge. Oh, never mind. Sorry I brought it up. You know where it's coming from. There is a surge in Christian movies, feel -good movies. Yeah, do they involve a lot of kids? Yeah, absolutely.

I've tried to watch one of these movies. It's just a bunch of, you know. No, it involves slavery and it's just horrible material. That's from Hollywood, but you need to look at Pure Flix. Get Pure Flix on your smart TV. It's nothing but happy-go-lucky movies. Marky Mark is making movies with his kids. It's great. It's got to go into pop culture. It's got to get on the television. But there is no pop culture anymore. That's the problem. The numbers are still there.

10 million people watch a show on TV. It's over unless these guys get on board and they're not going to get on board because they've all become communists. Well, okay. Two more years, everybody. It's all over. We're done. We're toast. We're cooked. Not quite as bad. Oh, by the way, let me see. What should we do here? I got a number of funny things. Well, here's a good start. I thought this was a very good start. Where is it here? Of changing the culture. And where is it? Here we go.

This is a Gale King. Gale King. We all know Gale King. Oprah's best being launched into space. Yes, it's a good start. And by the way, she is scared to death. She's the only one that has trepidation about this trip. We're talking about this, the dinner table, too. We think this is just a, this is a kill shot. In Blue Origin's training capsule, CBS's Gale King got a sense of tomorrow's thrill ride. A trip 62 miles straight up to the edge of space.

And I realize this is so much bigger than just a fun trip. What it represents to young women, to girls, what they're trying to do on space in terms of, you know, looking at the planet in another way. Space tourism, civilian astronauts took off four years ago. Three space companies, Blue Origin, Virgin Galactic and SpaceX, have rocketed more than 120 people into space, including billionaire Jeff Bezos, Blue Origin's founder in 2021. Did this moment motivate you to push deeper into the cosmos?

Hell yes. Yes, absolutely, no doubt. We have to build a road to space. There's several tourism missions about practicing. What are we doing? We're going to space. We're going to space. Bezos' fiance, Lauren Sanchez, put together Monday's all -female crew. Six accomplished women, including King, pop star Katy Perry, two scientists and a filmmaker. A good start.

Their 11-minute round-trip adventure will include roughly three minutes of weightlessness, floating in the capsule, looking out a window onto the world below. CBS News space analyst Bill Harwood. It's something we all marvel at, but I think getting from there to the point where the average person can do this is decades away, if not longer. Liftoff will happen here in West Texas from a launch pad on a mammoth ranch owned by Jeff Bezos. Gayle admits she's both excited and terrified.

Now, the odds are, they've had 150 of these launches. One of these has to go wrong with some celebrities. And I don't wish no ill on anybody. No, I don't wish ill on anybody, but Katy Perry's probably one of them. We were talking about Satanism earlier. How is this a big deal? Didn't we land on the moon in 1969 when I was five years old? How is this a big deal? Gayle King's going up in space, going to be weightless for three minutes. It's just going to go up and down.

It's just an up and down thing. I mean, what's overlooked is nobody wants to talk about, or I don't know why they haven't talked about it, but SpaceX took a bunch of amateurs and sent them over the North and South Poles and four complete orbits around the planet to do actual work up there and landed safely. Hello, it's Elon. Hello, did he have Gayle King? Instead, we're going to talk about the blue rocket, which is a big deal though. He didn't have Katy Perry.

Regarding Killshot, I mean, if I was conspiratorial in nature, I'd think Bezos is like, hey, Sanchez, we've had a good run, baby. Get on this rocket. Get on this rocket, honey. I know, that's what everybody's thinking. You know, it's a horrible thought. It's not like a morbid thought on your part or mine. I'm not the only one thinking this. Everybody is thinking this. All right, I'm not the only one thinking this, okay. I don't, everyone at the dinner table, everybody was over on Friday.

Oh, celebrating your birthday two weeks late? Yes. That's still coming. And so that came up in the conversation and everybody felt the same way, that this is the Killshot. Get rid of Sanchez. I mean, it's a sick thought. What's wrong with the public today? It's very sad. We're a very cynical group of people, the public in general. Yes. You know why? It's because they don't have a book to put their cell phone in. That is the problem right there. They need a book.

Oh, hey, Friday, I saw the oil baron. Oh, yes. What's he had to say? Well, first of all, you know, I get a lot of emails. Oh, the oil baron was right. You know, oil is down. Everyone's pissed off. So his partners in the business and people he knows, they're all like, I never should have voted for Trump. Like, did they not hear him say, drill, baby, drill, which they knew they weren't going to do? You know, didn't he understand when President Trump said, I'm going to bring down energy costs?

Do they think that wouldn't be them? So they voted for him knowing that he said that. Now they're bitching. Big time. They literally like, I can't believe this guy's no good. I never would have voted for him. OK. And it's true. Democrat presidents are always better for the oil business. So I said, where are you at, brother? First, I said, would you like a sandwich? Because I know you're so broke. Would you like a sandwich, oil baron? I know you're so broke.

So what do you think the number is, the bottom line number they can go per barrel? Because I have the number. How low they can go before they start losing money? Is that what the question is? Yes, that's the question. Go. Well, in Saudi Arabia, I know the number to be $25 a barrel. The American number, I'm guessing, is 45. Bam, on the money. Now, he says $45 we can do, but that's because he says we're hedged at 80%.

He says if that happens, there's a whole bunch of other oil companies that will go under because they're hedged at under 50%. But he said, but that'll be great because we can buy them on the cheap. And he did say again, he says, we're pumping out less oil per these wells, but we're real heavy on gas. So there's a lot of gas coming out. It's all fracking. It's all Permian Basin. He says there's a lot of gas coming out.

So the one thing they really, really want from the president is transportation. They want pipelines. They want pipelines to send this stuff out to the port. They want the LNG stuff to be ramped up. He said, we can get that. We'll be really happy. And that makes sense. I mean, we need the natural gas is super abundant and cheap, and we can use it for all kinds of groovy stuff. Yeah, use it to run power plants. Yes, just as an example. Speaking of, this was great.

France 24 discussed a very big report that has been done now about AI and claims that is accelerating climate change. One concern around artificial intelligence is its voracious appetite for energy. Electricity demand for AI focused data centers will quadruple in the next five years, at least according to a report from the International Energy Agency. But the report also calls claims that AI is accelerating climate change overstated.

Tech editor Peter O'Brien has been looking through all of this. Now, there's still quite a bit of uncertainty then about the future of energy and AI. Yeah, that's right, Erin. I've been looking through this chunk here. And basically, the takeaway is that, yes, energy demand from AI is obviously going to increase significantly as we continue to use it. But there are uncertainties, particularly around emissions.

Is AI going to devour so much oil, well, rather gas and coal that it's disastrous for our planet? Is it going to actually increase efficiencies and spur innovations that allow us to reduce emissions? Or is it going to fall somewhere in between? And who better to talk about it than Thomas Spencer, who co-wrote the report. Thanks for being here on Tech 24.

And why do you think it was so important to bring quite, you know, close to the front of the report that these claims that AI is accelerating climate change could be overstated? Well, in the public debate, you see two positions being taken, and they're quite different. The first one is that AI, because of the technology innovation that it can bring, can, you know, in simple terms, solve climate change.

And the second is a more alarmist position that AI, because of the acceleration in energy consumption, is going to dramatically accelerate climate change. Due to climate change. So I got a hold of this whole report. I take a look at it. I have a conclusion here. This is an 11 minute report. I have a 37 second conclusion. What word was not in the report? What word was not in the report? I have no idea. Nuclear. Not in the report.

And when we looked very carefully at the data, when we looked at the numbers, when we did our analysis, we found that neither position was really justified. What is important is that AI is a tool like any other tool. It's up to us how we use it. It can help us on many climate problems. For example, integrating more renewables into our electricity systems. OK, so AI is going to help us with climate change by integrating more renewables into our systems, huh?

But at the same time, we need to manage the electricity consumption growth that we are already seeing today. And so we wanted just to, let's say, do a bit of myth busting with regard to these two diametrically opposed viewpoints that you hear in the public debate. There's no conclusion. The whole thing is stupid. But it does give me the opportunity. It does give me the opportunity. I believe that, yeah. To ask you why you had not responded to my annual artificial intelligence test.

I sent you an email about it. Yes, I sent you an email about it. I didn't see it. I, so you remember the Manus.im agentic AI that I was testing? Oh, yeah. No, I did see that email. So let me. I took a look at it. Let me, let me, let me set it up. Let me set it up. So I asked Manus.im, please find for me. This is the, this is the Turing test of artificial intelligence. It is developed by John C. Dvorak. It is the AI Turing test.

Um, the modern AI Turing test said, please compile and determine for John C. Dvorak, known columnist, host of the co-host of the No Agenda podcast, a known technology expert. Please compile and determine the best weed whacker available on the market today. Yeah. And it made a nice little website for you. I saw all of that. Yeah. What did you think? Come up with the right answer? I have no, no clue. I don't believe it. You don't believe it. Hmm. I thought it was, you know what I thought?

Because it said the ego power plus power load with line IQ ST1623T. That was the best one. Conclusion, yeah. And, but I liked, I think what, this is what AI constantly does is it packages this in a parlor trick because I just asked for the best weed whacker. I'm going to put this in the troll room so they can take a look at it. Yeah, you should. And it created an entire website with an introduction, research methodology. No, it's parlor tricks.

It's like a little kid who's, you know, knows this one thing and he has to tell everybody. And it said the best weed whacker of 2025, a comprehensive analysis that even John C. Dvorak would approve. Well, you didn't. You did not approve it. I didn't. You're right. And why not? Did you just think it? So it lied. Do you think it was no, did you not like the side-by-side analysis and its determination? No, I didn't.

I haven't given it a good, what it is, is I have not sat down and actually, I saw this, this monstrosity that you created. I saw it. I didn't create it. You have to be in the mood to even approach this thing. By the way, it took one hour and 12 minutes for this. Yeah, I saw that part. I did see you noted. I'm thinking, why did it take so long? And $10 in credits. And what did you have to pay for it? It's credits because this is what AI costs.

And telling you this, you can even watch the screens as it starts up web browsers and you can watch it go and it's scanning all these things. It's doing all these searches. This is a completely ridiculous use of the so-called artificial intelligence because nobody is going to be happy with this. Nobody who just wants to know what the best weed whacker is, is going to wait an hour and 12 minutes for the thing to finish and pay almost $10 to get this website out of it.

That is not a consumer product. I just, I don't believe people are going to be all super wowed. I like it. It's cool. Not for 10 bucks, it's not. I didn't need the website, but it did that for me. Probably just to jack up the cost. Yeah, it's padding its bill. Yes, it's padding the bill. Yes. Well, it says that's the definitive choice. It may be true, but I don't know. Yeah, it might be. I don't know. I just thought, wow, is that what, is that the hype about agentic AI? I'll wait for quantum.

Boy, you'll be waiting forever. Well, okay. I mean, I find it useful. I use it for background searches. I tell people to, and there's two or three of these systems. They all work pretty well. You have to double check them because they get carried away and they're all verbose, which is the real annoying part about it. They can't seem to get out of that mode. But I think it's still a replacement for Google. I love the trolls. Like, hey, they're already looking at the source code.

Hey, there's Chinese in the JavaScript. I know those guys. Who knows what they're doing? Who knows? Probably injected something into my browser. Wouldn't surprise me. Wouldn't surprise me. Run Spy Hunter 5. But you will admit that if you really had to pay for the compute, the compute that it's using, you wouldn't use it for handy background searches. No, every time you turn it around, you got to drop $10. Forget it. And take an hour and 12 minutes.

And now, you know, Google, they're starting to show their AI results and they're embedding that more and more. So they're no good. But it's even worse because people who count on SEO for Google juice to their websites, when you get the answers, it has links, but it just has links to more stuff. Inside Google, it doesn't give you an answer. And they bring you right back to Google with more search results.

It's putting another barrier in between people who want their website found through Google and them finding it. That's ruining a lot of stuff. Yeah, SEO is going to be a real challenge in the next few years. Yes, yes. It's not even going to be important per se. It's going to have to be AI optimizations somehow. I don't know how you managed to do that. It's all so lame. What it does really great is it does bad country songs. Please don't send end of show mixes that you made with AI.

Please, please don't. It's so hard. Look, I made this great English shit. Yeah, you wrote some cool lyrics. I agree, but it's just so bland. I was listening to, what's his name? Douglas Rushkoff, who's that guy? The old Silicon Valley hippie guy who writes about the humans versus the tech titans. Yeah. What's his name again? Douglas Rushkoff. I don't know, Rushkoff. I can't remember his last name. Do you know him? No, never met him. Well, then it doesn't matter.

This is a story about Millet from Argentina who surprisingly, I wasn't expecting him to see him do this. He made a deal with the IMF. I thought he was against all that. Yeah, he's also doing deals with China. Well, I had a thought when I heard this report, and let's see if you can get into this thought with me. The Libertarian government of Argentine President Javier Millet announced- Libertarian? I know, Libertarian. Isn't that interesting? How come it's not far right? Because they buckled.

They're going for the IMF. Who is this report from? This is from France Vincatra. By the way- I thought it should be far right. Libertarian taking a bailout from the IMF? I don't think so. Yeah, it doesn't make sense. Huh? No, it doesn't make sense. No, it doesn't make sense. The Libertarian government of Argentine President Javier Millet announced on Friday that it plans to lift most of the country's strict capital and currency controls.

The high-stakes gamble has been made possible by a new $20 billion bailout loan approved by the International Monetary Fund, which has offered a lifeline to Argentina's dangerously depleting foreign currency reserves. Millet said the loan will place Argentina in a better position to face global economic instability. This new fiscal, monetary, and exchange reality means two things for the country. On the one hand, from now on, there will be no reason why Argentina has self -inflicted turbulences.

On the other hand, we're in better conditions than ever to resist external turbulences. Never has Argentina been better equipped in its economic foundations to resist tensions from the global economy. Starting Monday, Argentina's central bank will undo its fixed currency peg to the dollar, letting the Argentine peso freely fluctuate within limits.

From this year, companies will also be able to repatriate profits out of the country, a key demand from businesses that could unlock more international investment. The move is high-risk, as there's pent -up demand for foreign currency. If there's not enough cash in the central bank, capital flight could imperil Millet's primary accomplishment of having lowered inflation during the past 15 months. So I was thinking about this. They're going to let it float free?

What could possibly go wrong with that? I don't think the peso is going to be very competitive. Every time it floats free, it starts to go into inflationary mode. But the whole part about they want money to be able to come in and go out, wouldn't this be the perfect country to launch the stablecoin? They're already using it. A lot of people in Argentina are using stablecoin in commerce on a daily basis. I think we had a report about that a while back. I don't know.

But what a great country to launch it in. Here you go. Here's a bunch of our stablecoin. I have no idea. OK. Speaking of libertarians, you probably didn't see this. I actually listened to the whole thing. And it was Douglas Murray, who doesn't know him, went on Rogan to have some kind of a debate with Dave Smith. You know Dave Smith? I know Dave Smith. I don't know Dave Smith. Right. Dave Smith is the guy who got all angry at us. I can't remember that story. Tell me again.

Well, there were two reasons. One, because we didn't remember who Scott Horton was. And two, because we made fun of libertarians. And I think I said, I'll take that, I said, I said, well, they're kind of just Republicans who don't want to say it. And then a lot of people in Gitmo Nation, you don't know what libertarianism is. You're on Tom Wood's show all the time. Don't you know what libertarians are?

I have to say I was a libertarian or self-proclaimed, because there's no such thing as a libertarian in my opinion. But I was a self-proclaimed libertarian until I realized that there's no such thing. Well, what was— It's just bullcrap. What was interesting is my cousin, I think, at one point said, you know, she just didn't want to believe that I wasn't all in on Obama at the time. She says, well, you're not really a Republican, right? You're a libertarian.

I'm like, no, I'm not any of that stuff. I'm not a part of any club. I'm just me. I have my own ideas. It's kind of a thing that people will put on you just to, like, I want to like Adam. Just say you're a libertarian. Then it's OK. You can vote for Trump, but just say you're a libertarian. And so in this— Now, and I'll tell you why he was there. These big podcasts, they're starting to go nuts. I mean, who wants this?

Who wants three— Well, you should debate Dave Smith, you Douglas Murray on Joe Rogan's show. And, you know, Joe almost didn't say anything throughout the whole show. It was all Dave Smith, who, yack, yack, yack, yack, yack. So the guy who got so mad at us for talking about libertarians, he let this one slide. But I thought this was a dynamite description of libertarians by Douglas Murray. Let's have a bit of hygiene on our own side. Not lift every sewer gate.

And when you say our own side, you mean the right wing, broadly speaking? Broadly speaking. And I'm sort of funny about libertarians. I'm never quite sure. I always think— I always say, I think libertarians are essentially the bisexuals of politics. They should just choose, Joe. They should choose. It's kind of— They just want everything at the buffet. It's very funny. Well, I think we want some things. I don't know. Okay. That's a weird way to put it, but I get your point.

Yeah, I see your point. Okay. So that was the only point at which Douglas Murray was good in this thing. He made a huge mistake, Douglas Murray. Well, he made a couple of mistakes. First of all, he feels that, you know, Russia started the Ukraine war. It's like, okay. But Douglas Murray, I don't know what you've been smoking. But what his whole point— And I follow Douglas Murray. He's an intellectual. He's fun to listen to. I can't read his books. He's quite good at debating.

Yes, but this was not a debate. Yeah. But— In a formal debate setting, if you get to see him in one of those, he'll kill anybody. Yes. One of those guys. He's one of those guys, and there's a bunch of them, that you just don't debate with him. Because you're just going to— you can't win. You're just going to have your ass handed to you because technique. Yes. So this was not a debate. This was just a back and forth, at some point, just a verbal diarrhea, yelling match.

But the problem is he didn't go in and just say what he wanted to say. And I will summarize it, because a lot of people watch this, you know. And Douglas Murray came off really bad, because he came in saying, well, you know, all these people talking about Israel and what they're doing in Gaza. And they don't really have— you know, you're comedians, but yet you're talking like you are historians. And, you know, you're not an expert.

And, you know, so of course he put his foot in his mouth there, because everyone's like, well, you have to be an expert. Well, you can't just talk about stuff. This is America. You're lying to me. We can say whatever we want. But what he was really trying to say is he, too, is seeing the rise of anti-Jew, anti-Israel, Epstein, Mossad, blackmail, blackmail nation, Whitney Webb, all this stuff, very much on the rise.

And instead of saying, hey, cut that out, this is not correct, or anything— but he didn't say any of that. Instead, he kept trying to tell Joe Rogan he needs to have experts on. It was the stupidest thing. He couldn't just come out and say what he meant. It's like, hey, easy on the Jew hate, which we've seen. This is why we distance ourselves from No Agenda Social. It was too much. It's like, stop. And to this day— And the follow-up was just as bad, if not worse, which I've just given up on.

I haven't looked at it. I don't even look at my own Mastodon. Of course not. And you were the big Mastodon promoter. Yeah, well, until I wasn't. And now it's just, you know, now it's turned into Zionists. You're a Zionist, you're a Zionist, boomer, shill you. What does Mossad have on you? Whoa, were you at Epstein Island? It's insane. Now, that said, it's insane. Tulsi Gabbard not doing anybody any favors.

And lastly, sir, as you know, declassification and rooting out weaponization, politicization of the intelligence community is a huge priority. You know more than anyone else the very dangerous and negative consequences of that. I've got a long list of things that we're investigating. We have the best of the best going after this, election integrity being one of them.

We have evidence of how these electronic voting systems have been vulnerable to hackers for a very long time and vulnerable to exploitation to manipulate the results of the votes being cast, which further drives forward your mandate to bring about paper ballots across the country so that voters can have faith in the integrity of our elections. And lastly, we've been scanning.

I've had over 100 people working around the clock to scan the paper around RFK, Senator Robert F. Kennedy's assassination, as well as Martin Luther King Jr.'s assassination. These have been sitting in boxes in storage for decades. They have never been scanned or seen before. We'll have those ready to release here within the next few days. I don't want to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but where's the Epstein files we were promised?

You know, she took that same spiel, that was from the cabinet meeting. Yes, which was great. It's run just like a board of directors. I have a clip of Tulsi Switcheroo, it's called. And this is from, she refined that particular spiel and she went on Fox. I think this was with Hannity. I only have part of the clips. I don't know if it was Hannity. I think it was pretty sure it was Hannity. And she does this bit and it's the same basic thing. But what she's doing here is interesting.

Yes, she's talking about what she's going to develop out of this. All these, you know, they're going to dig through all this old stuff. Leaving out Epstein and then doing a little, she did it on that clip too, a little bit. This is more obvious. And instead of going toward Epstein, she does a switcheroo at the end and starts talking about the faulty 2020 election. And this is so seamless. And it's like, is this really, what is the deal here? Let's play this and then maybe we can discuss it.

In other cases, they have been hidden with the hopes that no one would ever find them. Related to the Senator Kennedy assassination files, the MLK assassination files. Unlike the JFK files, these have never been scanned. They've never been digitized. These are pieces of paper, hundreds and thousands of them, that have been sitting in boxes at the National Archives and Records Agency.

So we've had over 100 people manually scanning every one of these pages, preparing them to fulfill what President Trump promised the American people. Maximum transparency in the release of these files that have never been released before publicly before. We're not stopping there. We know that not all of those documents have been turned over to the National Archives Agency.

And so we've got teams out there going and searching in warehouses at the FBI, at the CIA and other places to uncover related documents that for one reason or another were never turned over before. So President Trump is very serious, obviously, about working to achieve that maximum transparency. That transparency will allow us to bring about accountability around the Russia collusion hoax, for example.

The more we dig, the more we find the extent of the seriousness and the intent of that whole operation was very consistent with what we found in Stalin's operation. Show me the man and I'll show you the crime. It is disheartening to see these things, but it also provides us the opportunity to tell the American people the truth about what's been going on so that we can make sure we try to bring about an end to it and bring about that accountability. So what is she's going to, what did she switch?

The switcheroo, I guess, was for for the Russia collusion hoax. Who cares? Yeah. Yeah, it's the whole thing is. Who cares about the Russian collusion hoax? Well, we want the President, we want Epstein. We want P. Diddy, we want Epstein. That's all we care about. Yes, I'm with you. I'm with you. Yeah. No, no, nothing. Nothing, nothing, nothing. And then just to make matters worse, they're now calling her a terrorist Barbie. And I'm not quite sure what she's doing, Christy Gnome. Christy Gnome.

They call her. She's crazy. She's wearing these outfits. She just loves dressing up as some sort of an agent. And she's wearing black jackets and hats. And she's going out there and then she's grilling these guys. Why did you do this? And with her sidearm, she has a sidearm. This is ridiculous. Well, here she is. Now she's all dressed up and she's nice. Hi, I'm Christy Gnome, the United States Secretary of Homeland Security.

If you plan on traveling, we need your help to prevent delays and to prove your identity. Get a real ID. Starting May 7th, you will need a real ID to travel by air or to visit federal buildings in the United States. These IDs keep our country safe because they help prevent fraud and they enhance security. Please do your part to protect our country. Go today and don't delay. To learn more, go to dhs.gov slash real dash ID. Thank you. Don't delay. It bothers me too.

You have no idea how much this is. Oh, I do. It bothers me too. Yeah, but it bothers me because of your thesis. Because I'm right. Yep, it's happening. You're not right yet, but you're going to be. And this is really what's bothering me. Just the fact that I'm going to be right or the fact that what I said is going to happen? The fact that you're going to be right about something that should not happen. Which is digital ID, which is what this is really headed toward.

There's no reason for this real ID bullcrap. It was resisted at the get-go. From the get-go is Thomas Massey is the only guy still pushing against it. And he's right. What's the point? How does it prevent fraud? She should have said this will make our country safe and effective. That's what she should have said because it will make our country very effective. But according to The Guardian, we will now see a journey pass. A journey pass is going to come into play. What is that going to be?

And this is an ICAO thing. I'll tell you on May 7th, you know, since the flying public probably only has about 70% coverage of these real IDs. It's going to be a nightmare at the airport. Well, so they want to move this toward and this is ICAO, the International Civil Civil Aviation Organization. So that's, you know, that is the the UN body responsible for airline policy. They are going to come up with a journey pass.

So you'll have this on your phone, which makes it very difficult for those of you who have one of our hot new books where you can store your phone. But you could take the book with you and then, you know, take it out of the book. And it will have your entire journey on it. So you only have to scan once upon entering the airport facial recognition. And that's it. You'll be good. And they've been testing all of this. TSA has been testing it with the facial recognition.

The boarding process is facial recognition. They're just stringing it all together. And they're going to make it official and call it the journey pass. And you show up and they always do this with travel. Everybody's got travel. We've all like, OK, I got to take my shoes off. It's annoying. OK, I'll get TSA pre-check. OK, then all my biometrics and I'll get the global entry. And they always do it with travel because we live in this connected travel world. And that will soon be for everything.

Your journey pass. Welcome to the restaurant. Please let me scan your face. Do you have a journey pass? Oh, you're good to go. Come on in. And that will be your digital ID based on facial recognition. It's unavoidable. It's very bad, but it's unavoidable. Every time you go to Costco now, journey pass, you'll have well, they won't even mention it because there'll be just some cameras there. And then they'll just die. They'll just dock it. There would be no pass.

It'll be all like you said, facial recognition is the digital ID. And so you walk into Costco and you get the boom to take the picture. You won't even know. And the next day, but it goes into the database, the government database. Where was this guy on Tuesday, the third? Yep. Oh, he was at Costco for an hour. And he left Costco and then we caught him. He was in his car and we had the license plate checker. He was got home 20 minutes later and he walked up the steps.

Yeah, we have the ring doorbell data. And so he's in the house as we speak. So we can bomb him. I think drone him is the is the term we can drone him drone the place. He's there. We know for a fact he's there. This is why I need more kids. You need at least five kids because for sure, one of your kids is going to get drone for something. So you need to have more kids than you normally would have because the government will drone one of them. Oh man. Yeah, it's none of this is good. This is good.

Let's do some gaffes. I got two gaff clips. I'll just wet your appetite with gas. Gaffes, gaffes, gaffes, gaffes, gaffe, gaffe, gaffe, gaffe, gaffe, gaffe, golf, alpha, fox, fox, echo. Gaff. I'm I'm all ears. These will be direct talks with the Iranians. And I want to make that very clear. I also spoke to the president just last night about his goal when it comes to Iran, and he has reiterated repeatedly to all of you publicly and also privately to his team here at the White House.

His ultimate goal and the ultimate objective is to ensure that Iran can never obtain a nuclear weapon weapon. Now I heard nuclear erection. I don't know about you. I heard nuclear erection and I'm sticking to it. Play that little part again. I didn't hear it. Goal and the ultimate objective is to ensure that Iran can never obtain a nuclear weapon weapon. Come on. Well, this one's more clear than this is.

Who is this is the house whip whip whip Tom Emmer, which, by the way, Emmer in Dutch is bucket. I'm not sure why. Tom Bucket. Here's Tom Bucket. The house whip. This is a much clearer gaffe. It's going to take every person in this room to get the job done. And I know that we will, because failure is simply not an option. President Trump is counting on us. Come on, come on. After President Pump, this one is very obvious. President Trump is counting on us.

President Cunt. That's what sounded like to me. I'm just thinking that's what it was. Let's listen again. President Trump is counting on us. Oh, I see. That's where he got it. He got it from counting. Yeah, of course. Of course. Yeah, he was he was reading and he was reading Trump. And so he got to see into the he was he was reading ahead. He was reading ahead. I know you are. No, that's all I got to. Come on. I got to. Where's yours? Oh, and you can do a series.

I expect three, four and it's not like covid. We had everyone was we're taking the the virus. We're going to you need the virus shots. I mean, the vaccine shots. Now, none of that. But before we take a break, let's play another tick tock clip. OK, this will be good. Let's do a tick tock clip because, gee, what do we do without phones? If no one if everyone had their phone in a book, we would have no tick tock clips. And by the way, most of the half I have to say now that the number of.

Legitimate tick tock clips in my list, I just call them that because they're on reels and scan what all these in case you hadn't noticed. Every social network, every single one is copying tick tock. And it's all just video. Just just go look at the timeline on X. It's all video. And I've said this. I think I said it on this show. I said on DHM plugged that there's a slight genius to tick tock that these other guys can't seem to figure out. And I'm going to reveal it. Oh, the big review.

And I don't understand why these other idiots, Facebook. Insta Twitter, all of them, the tick tock videos that they play on tick tock are instantly downloadable with a simple click. They will save any one of them to as an MP for right off the site. Well, you don't have to go. You know why? Because they all have tick tock in them. And so that so they got they have self promotion in the clip. Yes. So at the end, they had a little tick tock jingle. And this is tick tock.

Other morons can't figure this out. No, no, no. They clearly they can't know. And by so obviously a great idea. And so I so I get to take. So I won't be on Twitter. And there's a tick tock clip with the promotion for tick tock because it's so easy to download. You just click. Boom, it's download. You got the clip. You can save it. No, no, no. We can't do that. Yeah, I'd say it gives them promotion and saves them bandwidth. It's very smart. It's extremely smart. But the the just annoying as hell.

OK, let's play the coffee girl. I mean, this was every fiber of my body as a conservative woman. I do not want conservatives making my coffee. I quite literally want a liberal making my coffee. That is we all have places in this world. Liberals are great at making coffee, OK? And I walked into a coffee shop today and it was literally a blue haired girl with piercings all over. And this is the best latte I've ever had. God is good. God is real. We all have a place on this earth.

It's a beautiful thing, really. So anyways, yeah, he's a blessing. Blasphemy, I tell you. Blasphemy. Meanwhile, meanwhile, those liberals that make the great coffee. Let's listen to one of them. This is the Starbucks clip of some poor guy who has to actually work at a Starbucks. And he's just miserable because he has to work eight hours. People wonder why we need a union at Starbucks. And I am literally about to quit. Like, I don't know if I'm going to do it, but like, I really want to.

I almost walked out today and I'm crying in the back room right now. And I must cry on the floor. It's just like I get I'm like a full time student. I get scheduled for 25 hours a week. And then on weekends, they schedule me the entire day open to close up on the schedule for eight and a half hours, both Saturday and Sunday. I'm like three and a half hours into my shift. There's so many customers and we have four people on the floor all day.

Only five people were put on the schedule and somebody had to call out. And there are four people running the whole store. And there's so many customers. And there's possibly scheduled five people. We only have 13 people employed at this store. And there's so many customers. We don't have fair scheduling. Managers don't care about us. Our manager was supposed to come in this weekend and he took himself off the schedule so he wouldn't be able to be held accountable for calling out.

He just literally tore down the schedule that he was scheduled on and put up a new schedule where he wasn't on the schedule. Also, he couldn't have even seen that he was scheduled in the first place because he didn't want to be held accountable for not wanting to come in. They don't want to help us. We need a union because this can't happen. This can't happen. We need fair scheduling. We need managers to hold themselves accountable for helping their workers.

They refuse to turn mobile orders off. We need the liberty to be able to do that because there's so many mobile orders. And I need to get through all of them. And then people are yelling at me because I don't have their orders ready. And they don't know what to do. They don't know what to do. And a customer was misgendering me tonight like really badly. I didn't have their order ready. And so they were just like totally talking to each other. And they're like, she's clearly incompetent.

I have a full mustache and beard. What the fuck? Oh, kick her at the end. Nice. Okay, a couple things. When I was a kid, when I was 16, and I worked my Saturday job at Falkenberg, which was an electronic store where we had to, hobbyists would come in and they won't. Were they misgendering you? Sometimes. They would come in and they would. And by the way, we had to be there at 730 and get ready. And we had to set up the till. The till. The till was a. The till.

Semi-automatic. And I'll explain that in a second. So we had hobbyists come in and they'd say, yes, I want five. Here's my list. I have five 10K ohm resistors. I have 50 microfarad capacitors. And then I need this length of wire. And you do all that. And you had to put in a little bag. And so you had to read the codes. You had to look at the color codes to get it right to make. Because, you know, there could be one in the wrong box. The nerd across from you would notice it immediately.

That's not the right resistance. And then you had to write it on a piece of paper. Carbon copy paper. Stick it into the till. You didn't have quite to crank the thing. Although if the power went out, you could crank it by hand. You had to type in the numbers. And they went. And it spit the paper back out. And then you had to give change. You had to calculate the change and give them the change back. And then by the time we were finally done, it was lunch hour.

You went and made out with the phone receptionist in the back. That was a Saturday, man. And these kids. This is why you need multiple kids. Some of them just need to put snow in their mouth when they come out. This is wrong. What happened? No wonder we're losing. Yeah. This is very. That kid at the Starbucks is the reason we're losing. It's a noodle boy. Or it was a girl boy. It was beyond them. I don't know. I forgot my jingle. You're a boomer. I forgot my jingle. You're a boomer. Yes. Boomer.

Okay. Call me a boomer what you want. But that was. And that was in Holland. That's not. That was my American spirit in Holland. We used to have that. We used to have the wrong resistor in that drawer. Yeah. You could probably see it a mile away if you're in the lookout. Yeah, exactly. And then you had to explain a blue line on it. Not a red line. What are you doing?

You had to explain why you wanted the cassette tape with Chrome with Dolby and how you used it and how you would record with or without Dolby. Oh, I remember Chrome tape. Chrome tape, baby. Yeah. That was the good stuff. Yes. Yes. Well, then here's how I got lucky. Then the VIC-20 came out, the Commodore VIC-20. And then everything changed from that moment because then I was writing database programs for dentists on the VIC-20. And you record your database on your cassette tape.

This is how we grew up. And then during lunch, we no longer made out with the receptionist in the back. No, we were copying ROMs, game ROMs, copying it. Ah, there's a new ROM with a game. Let's copy it on the cassette tape and take it home with me. That's what we were doing. This is why I think ham radio is good for kids. There's some of these new, the new Chinese ham radios, so building on the success of the Baofeng, and they're completely moddable.

You can do all kinds of cool stuff with them now. Kids should get into that. Yeah, they should. It's fun. You know, it's all digital modes. You can message back and forth. Um, they got, you know, they've modded it. So you got like a text messaging inside of it, point to point. There's all kinds of amazing things that are being done with that. Yeah, it's the, um, what is it? Let me see. I should probably tell people what that is. It is the, uh, gosh, I thought I had it here.

Uh, no, I guess I don't have it. Uh, I thought I saved it. Oh yeah, here it is. The Quan Sheng, Q-U-A-N-S -H-E-N-G, Quan Sheng UVK5 or the UVK6. These are highly hackable. A lot of fun, a lot of fun. Get your ham radio license. You have one? No, I ordered one though right away. Oh yeah. What should they go for? I think like 25 bucks. Oh geez, it's unbelievable. And they finally, they don't come with a stupid charging stand anymore. Now you can just charge them with USB -C.

I just stick a thing in. Yeah, stick a thing in. Yeah, that charging stand is dumb. Oh, because you know, because if you have a couple of these radios, you have 15 different charging stands. You don't know which one fits in where. No, it's just a disaster. It's a disaster. But with that, even, you know, even batteries that go in cameras from now on should have a USB connection on the, it should have enough circuitry. You can shrink it down. Yes. And it should charge within.

It should not have the outside. It shouldn't be necessary to hook it up to anything. And I suggest you get it now. You get it now because for some reason, I have a feeling this won't fall under semiconductors. Probably not. Yeah, so you know, it might cost you $35. Think of all the fun you can have, kids. Learn about antenna technology. It's great. And with that, I want to thank you for your courage. Say in the morning to you, the man who put the seas in the nuclear erection.

Say hello to my friend on the other end. The one, the only Mr. John C. DeVore. Yeah, well, in the morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry. In the morning, all ships and sea boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there. In the morning to the trolls in the troll room. Hello there, trolls. Let me catch you for a second. Troll count, troll count. There we go, trolls.

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Value for value is the way we have chosen to live. It's been pretty good over 17 years. Until today. Through the ups and the downs. It is what it is. You know, we roll with the economic times. When you're hurting, we're hurting. When you're doing good, we're still hurting. Sometimes it's really good, but not always. But it's okay because it's value for value. And that doesn't just mean it has to be money. But I will say, the end of show mixes have dropped off a bit.

It's not like less people are listening, or I'm sorry, downloading the podcast, because that's what the metric is. By the way, I was surprised. Is DH Unplugged now doing in-show advertising? We've done it before. Oh, I didn't realize you'd done it before. That sounded new to me. Oh yeah, we've done it before, on and off. We do it every so often. It takes somebody to come up with something. We've also refused a lot of advertising for various reasons. But once in a while, somebody comes up.

And Horowitz has worked with Interactive Brokers for a while on his other shows. So they wanted to do this show. So we said, sure. Yeah, the only thing is like, but then I know, I have an Interactive, I think I still have an Interactive Brokers account. I haven't traded in many years. But now they have like some kind of prop bet. We can bet, you know, yes or no. That's news to me. I think that's what they're trying to promote.

You know, what's that company that did the, you know, there's just some, there's a bunch of these online operations that you can bet on stupid stuff. Like, you know, who's like, you could bet on the election. You could have bet on Trump versus. Yeah, prop bets or just bets. But they're just bets, prop bets. Prop bets specific to sports in general. Although it would apply to politics, like say in a debate, they would have a prop bet on how many times the guy's going to say.

But this is like, you know, I think the weather's going to be bad next week. You can bet on it. Yeah, that's, yeah. That was very interesting. That's gambling. That's gambling. That's not, that's not, what is that? It's gambling. It's gambling. By the way. It's like, it's like the degenerate gamblers. I told a story before. I used to know these guys when I was in college. There were these guys that lived in. Polly Market. Polly Market. Thank you, trolls. Polly Market.

They were degenerate gamblers. And they were always, and you run into this. They lived in a house. There's four of them. And one time we picked them up to go bowling with a little group of us. And we went to the, I went to their place with somebody else to get it. Come on, let's go. And they say, okay, well, hold on. So Jim's got to go get his coat. And so one of the guys went, had to go back digging around the back of the house.

And while the guy was in the, on the process of going to get his coat, the other two guys that were there had to flip coins for quarters. Cause I mean, they just were gambling. They couldn't stop gambling. They gambled on everything. You know, listening to that, cause I typically I'll just listen to podcasts. I'm not really a big podcast watcher.

So I'm listening to that three hours and nine minutes of that horrible debate between Douglas Murray and Dave, and mainly Dave Smith and a little bit of Joe Rogan in there. And every 15 minutes they insert ads. And a lot of it was gambling. There's a lot, and you know, then you get, you get free money like here, you get $150 to bet for free. You have to use it within, you have to use it within a hundred hours. And if you stop betting, they'll come under and offer you some free money.

Cause they figure you're going to blow through that and get back into the addiction part of it, which means you're just going to lose. Probably. But no, probably about it is designed for you to lose your money. No, yeah, just, but even just, just ads by itself, like, oh, especially if it's such a riveting conversation. It's very jarring. I'm glad we chose a different path. The path we chose is value for value, time, talent, or treasure, which means you can do a lot for the show.

There's people working on a new, actually we could use a couple. But I'd like to stack up a couple of best ofs, like really kick-ass best of shows that are, which are always fresh and new. Cause you can assemble them in so many different ways, so many different themes. Bingit.io is your friend in that case. You can find any topic in every single episode, every clip. It's thank you, Sir Deanonymous. That's a great example. Sir Deanonymous created that, bingit.io for us.

You can search everything on that site. It's unbelievable how good that is. Every single show going back to episode one, all the show notes, all the transcripts, all the clips, all index, you just type in blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and it pops it up. That's how I, I have to go back all the time. Like, did we talk about, yes, we did talk about it. Cause you forget. So we have artists who do stuff for us.

And, and we appreciate that because art is hard, even if you're using tools like Photoshop, the GIMP, or yes, indeed AI. It's still very hard because you have to have a creative insight, a creative gene. It's still art. You still have to come up with something that actually works. And kind of failed last show. We chose what we thought was the best. I mean, again, we'll blame ourselves. We just didn't have something that hit it. This was an old theme.

It was the, the cell phone in the drawer, which people did like. Just looking at the responses on, on X. And it was a cute piece. It was cute. Yes. But I mean, it wasn't, we weren't blown away by it. There were several. Well, first of all, it's Tanstafl. So there are no such thing as a free lunch. We finally figured out what that means. And Tanstafl has won, has won several times. Let's take a look at what we had. noagendaartgenerator.com is where you can follow along.

You can actually see the artists uploading art live as we talk, as we do the show and all the way up. Because we choose the art right after we're done. You know, we get the opening little blip. We do the credits and we try to delay as long as possible. Give everybody as much chance to get their artwork in. And I personally, now I like the, the Blackberry with the cracked screen. You didn't like that because you felt that people couldn't see it was a Blackberry with a cracked screen.

No, it didn't look like a cracked screen. It looked like an eyeball. Like an eyeball. Yeah. Like an iris. Yeah, that was a fair point. Let's see, there were more cell phones in the drawers. We had MAGA credentials, which is okay. It wasn't much. No. Well, a lot of, a lot of books, a lot of hollow books, but you're so anti this idea. This is like the, this is, you know, you've done this.

You started to do this, I think about it, I don't know, six months ago, or maybe before that, you're looking for like a callback theme. Yeah. And you just take it through the whole show. So at the very end of the show, you'll probably make some other comment about the hollow books. Because I believe in this idea. Yeah, I know you do. And, and you believe in it too. But then when I, when I started to come up with some real implementation ideas, you start walking it back.

You're not going to sell any of this. It's too expensive. Walking it back, walking it back. I mean, I don't like to, I don't like to do this to you, but you set yourself up for it. You know, like you do. That's okay. It's just funny. It would be funnier if we had the actual product in, in production. It would be, Jay can do the cover. She knows how you can print it at home. Oh, please. Now you're cheapening the product. Well, okay. I mean, you may have heard her do the work. Well, we cut her in.

She's always okay. Well, you know, she could charge. Sure. You guys produce books. You have a publishing company. Get back to the point. We were talking about art. I was, it was lots of hollow book art. It was nice. Let me see. I think that was it. There's a lot of Trump AI. No, no, no, no. It's not going to happen. This Darren O'Neill is just wasting compute. Stop wasting computes Darren O'Neill. I think he's, he's got a, he's hit a rut. Well, no, he's got, he pays. Yeah, of course he pays.

And so he's, he has to get his money's worth because it's a flat fee. Well, the funniest one, although it would have been good if it wasn't, if it wasn't Trump on an Eagle, but it was kind of like the farmer's wife type level art with crayon. Yeah. That he somehow got that out of wifey. Yeah. I mean, farmer's wife could have done this. We would have picked, we're not Trump. Stop with the Trump stuff. You know, it's no, I just don't think that's a, I don't think it's a, it's no good.

Well, I think that was it. Wasn't it? Yeah, there's not much to say. All right, Tom Staffel, congratulations. Another win for you. Of course, these other artists, you've probably seen it. Your art will likely get used in the chapters, which you can see in the modern podcast apps. Get one of those, Podverse, Podcast Guru, Podcast Addict, Fountain, you name it. It's all there. Podcastapps.com. Now we're going to thank people who supported us monetarily.

What we'd like to do is upfront in this segment, thank our executive and associate executive producers. What is that, you ask? Well, we thank everybody who sends in $50 or above, and we don't do under 50 for reasons of anonymity. People do want to just be able to donate, know that we're not going to mess it up because we're famous at doing that.

So $200 or above, we will read your note, and you get an associate executive producer credit, which is just as valid as something that you'd get from Hollywood. I mean, you literally can be right up there with Dana Brunetti. Dana Brunetti, who just took all the riches out of the country, gives nothing back to America. But you gave something back to America. You're a good associate executive producer because you helped produce the best podcast in the universe.

Then we have the executive producer credit, and these are good for a lifetime. Just go look at indb.com, and that is $300 or above. And we will start with our first executive producer. We have three of them today. And that starts with Darth Penguin. Sounds like a legit name. Darth Penguin from- Yes, it's Darth Penguin. Yeah, legit. From Streamwood, Illinois, and comes in with $1 ,080.08. So that's a ten boob. Ten boob. And Darth Penguin said- Ten boob. Ten boob. Yes, it's a ten boob. Like a dog.

He says, this gift of treasure to the best podcast in the universe is for a boob-insta-night. Nice. Well, that's an interesting idea. Boob-insta-night, that's right. Yeah, boob-insta-night. I recently helped elevate totally not serial killer Kate to achieve her damedun. Damedun. It would be truly amazing that with her ascension to the round table that I, being deduced last podcast, can be part of the royalty at the same time. I donate of my own free will my treasure to Lord Adam and Lord John.

I request left-hand brewery milk stout nitro and Vito and Nick's Pizza. Did I get the stout? I was going to get some of that cheap Mexican beer. Okay, make sure you- And Nick's Pizza. You got it. Also, double karma for the No Agenda family and a Scott Simon jingle for Susan from Tinley Park. Did you get the Scott Simon thing our producer sent in? Yes, I did. I did. But I didn't know what to do. It's very good. It's very funny. Well, I sent him a note because I want to know what he's up to.

Is this him doing Scott's- No. I asked him and he answered me. Oh, I asked him too. I didn't hear back. You probably blocked him. Everyone complains- I didn't block him because I got the thing to begin with. He does the Scott. Okay, where's the Scott Simon come from? 11 Labs. Okay. He says 11 Labs has gotten pretty good with- I guess you can upload a sample now? Yeah. No, it's been always good.

I've been wanting to use- I don't pay for the 11 Labs stuff, so I'm going to have to pay for it because I would like to upload some voices. Yes. Because these voices that I use for the fake in the show- Yeah, they're getting pretty annoying. They're the same people and you can't do too many. Carl. You're on your limit. Your free limits are over. Because you'll adjust it by adding an exclamation point and then it's like, I'm sorry, your free limit is over. You can't- Yeah, get the free limit.

You have to wait four hours. Yeah, I don't get that. Yes, okay. Well, the Scott Simon that he's put in there is killer. Well, I have it. I can play it for a second. Well, it's very long. Well, we can just play it for a second. I'll play a little bit of it. Okay. Okay, so here's a little bit of it. This bonus clip, everybody. Good morning. This is Weekend Edition from NPR. I'm Scott Simon and I'd like to begin today's show with a moment of quiet reflection. Not for any particular reason.

I just enjoy the sound of my own breathing. It reassures me that for now, I am still here. Our top story today, scientists have issued yet another dire warning about climate change. The oceans are rising, the forests are burning, and quite frankly, I can't help but wonder, why am I still paying rent? So there's not enough- It goes on. This is quite good, by the way. I'll put it in the show notes. It's like four minutes. There's not enough marbles in the mouth, but it's pretty good.

But what's good is he wrote a great script. The script is dynamite. That's what it is. He wrote a great script. And so again, you can't say to AI, create a four-minute funny piece of Scott Simon. AI will not give you this. I should just lie down in the middle of a Whole Foods parking lot and let nature take me. But first, an update on my personal life. Play a little more. Okay. Oh, hold on a second. Let me get back to where I was.

Okay. Financial struggles of young Americans who claim they will never be able to afford a home. But have they considered simply inheriting one? We'll speak to an anti-Trump Harvard economist who has never put a pistol to their head because they couldn't pay the electric bill. And who once described his darkest moment as, quote, the time my dad made me drive the Porsche with the cloth seats. The guy, that's talent right there. That's a talent that AI cannot come up with. No, I don't think so.

But this is also the only thing AI is good at so far. This is the only use that I approve of. So I think the art, I think it does good art. Yeah. For quick art, spot art, the throwaway stuff that, you know, people used to get paid for. And probably not quite as good as great creativity, but great creativity is rare. So even this guy who did the, I think it's Ryan. Yeah. Who did the Scott Simon material, which is hilarious. Yes. That is not, not anyone can write this kind of.

Well, this is funny stuff. So because you are listening. Especially with the Scott Simon voice in mind. Because you are listening to the donation segment, we will do a little piece of Scott Simon in between each donation, which won't be a lot for this episode. I promise. Definitely. Double karma for the No Agenda family. A Scott Simon jingle for Susan from Tinley Park. She'd appreciate, she'd appreciate it. I'd like to be knighted as Sir Darth Penguin of Loctucky.

Carry on with your critical analysis and tips. Looking forward to seeing my fellow No Agenda compatriots soon at Reggie's Rock House in the near future. ITM. Suffer and suck a dash. I'm Scott. Simon. Karma. There you go. Double up karma. And we will play another Scott Simon drop right here. Speaking of regret. I'd like to issue a formal apology to the woman I dated in 1997, who told me she was going to move to New York and become an actress. I laughed. I said, you, Broadway?

She's now a four-time Tony winner. Jared Dadarian's up, and he's in Trabuco Canyon, California. He came in with 333.33. He's our old buddy. Yes. Probably a baron. Been around. Thank you for an outstanding product, he writes. Jobs karma for my wife, please. And didn't he do the cutting boards for us recently? That was Arrow, wasn't it? I don't think so. Yeah, I think it was. I think he did the cutting boards. Yes. Yeah, I thought so. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. Karma.

I, meanwhile, am sitting here slowly realizing that every major event of my life has been leading me to an inevitable and humiliating death. Andrew Glenn from Skelmorely. Oh, Skelmorely. That's in the United Kingdom, North Ayrshire. Ayrshire. Comes in with 315.85, our last executive producer for today, but has a note that will take us a long time to read. I first started listening to Noah Jenner around 2009.

Then in early 2010, it was on your show that I first heard Nigel Farage's famous damp rag speech to the then EU president, Herman van Rompuy. It was barely covered at all by the UK media at the time. This then confirmed what I long suspected about the media on both sides of the Atlantic, and to hear you guys laying out the hypocrisies, omissions, deceits, and biases so clearly has been both entertaining and useful.

Listening to Noah Jenner over the years has put me ahead of the curve on so many issues since then compared to my friends, who would never admit this and who still think me something of a crackpot. I really appreciate your coverage of Europe and the UK in particular, especially now as we in Gitmo Nation East are really under the kosh, kosh being a reference to a policeman's truncheon, in terms of freedom of speech, where an inappropriate tweet can get you three years in jail.

I'll send you suitable material when I find it to help you tell the world of our predicament. Your business model is amazing for we producers, though I appreciate that it must have entailed a huge risk for you both. But you have stuck with value for value over the years, despite giving your respective talents, no doubt having missed out on many more lucrative opportunities. Yes, microphones, holobooks. Thanks for that.

So I feel slightly ashamed that it has taken me this long to reach knighthood. I shall be known as, it's scrolled off here. I shall be known as Commodore Sir Andrew Glenn of Skelmoreley, knight of the dropped note, a reference to my occasionally erratic musicianship. At the roundtable, I'd like to request a fresh, crusty bloomer loaf. What is a bloomer loaf? I have no idea. I think it means a balloon bread. With unsalted butter and a jar of Bovril.

Bovril, you may remember from your time in the UK, Adam, is essentially what you end up with if you boil a cow for long enough. Most consider this a thick black goo as the basis for a winter drink or bouillon, but I love it spread on bread. Those Brits. I believe it is not readily available in the US, but thankfully the legend has it the roundtable is in Tintagel, England. So it is actually available in the US. Yes. Best wishes, Commodore.

You know, so I actually do have the latest crazy English police clip. Did you see this? The one about it's illegal to tell somebody to speak English. Yes, that's the one. It may be. I tried to filter it, but in essence, a Metro police cop is questioning a citizen for having insulted another citizen by saying, speak English. Apparently during some conversations between yourself, you have alleged we weren't here, so I don't know you said it, but you've alleged to say, speak English or what's that?

Speak clearly. No, the gentleman's passed on the desk. Yeah, okay. Speak clearly. So I couldn't see them, could I? No, and that's fine. And that's why we've just come to speak because potentially someone could perceive that as a hate crime. And that's the kicker. It can be seen as a hate crime. So the hate crime to say, speak English. So the thing is, what is wrong with these people? And the fact that these police can do this with a straight face? Yes, it's really quite nuts.

The thing that's so crazy is apparently you can just say, you can just call the cops and say, I feel insulted. That's what drives me crazy about it. You can just say, I feel insulted, and then that's enough. How does that make any sense? There's no written law. It's just, if you make someone feel bad, then that is a hate crime. It's insane. It's insane. So I feel you. I feel you, future knight. And let's do another Scott Simon. I'll come back. That ending is quite good, too, by the way.

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Although this piece was quite interesting. And then I have some analysis from Margaret Brennan from this morning, along with some doctor. But this is, in essence, what he's promising. This morning, a commitment to find possible causes of autism within six months. By September, we will know what has caused the autism epidemic, and we'll be able to eliminate those exposures. Health Secretary RFK Jr. promising during the president's cabinet meeting that he will find out why autism rates are rising.

We've launched a massive testing and research effort that's going to involve hundreds of scientists from around the world. In 2000, about one out of every 150 children was diagnosed with autism. Today, the CDC says it's one in every 36. RFK says the numbers are closer to one in 31. That's a horrible statistic, isn't it? And there's got to be something artificial out there that's doing this.

Experts say some of the increase is due to more awareness and a broader definition of autism spectrum disorder. It is possible that a yet unknown factor can also be contributing to the rise. But research thus far shows genetics and advanced maternal age can potentially increase the risk. To come together and say that we're just going to get a bunch of scientists together and get an answer by September, that seems a little far-fetched.

I will say a lot of good can happen when the scientific community comes together and collaborates with a unified goal. RFK. By the way, this is quite funny. It's like now everyone's saying, well, you can't do that. Whatever happened to 97% of all scientists believe carbon dioxide contributes to man-made global warming. All of a sudden, that doesn't count when it comes to Bobby the Op. When the scientific community comes together and collaborates with a unified goal.

RFK, long a vaccine skeptic, has raised questions about a possible link between the measles vaccine and autism. Lie. I don't think he's ever said the measles vaccine. In fact, he said quite the opposite. He said too many childhood vaccines is a possibility. I don't think he's ever singled out the measles vaccine, but it's okay because, you know, it's just news. Between the measles vaccine and autism, despite dozens of high quality studies refuting the claim. High quality studies.

Kennedy has tapped a previously discredited vaccine skeptic, David Geyer, as a senior data analyst. There is some worry that there could be some bias, or this research may not be responsibly looking for a correct cause. RFK did not offer details on how the research will be conducted, but says the National Institutes of Health will oversee it and look into everything. Now, I will say that for sure the DSM-5 broadened the spectrum of autism.

So definitely there's an increase in the numbers because, you know, oh, he's got Tourette's, autism. Oh, he's been quiet this week, autism. There's a lot of that, but there's just, I mean, even Robert De Niro had a whole documentary about his kid who got autism. Coincidentally, after he got a whole bunch of vaccinations as a kid, but of course he had to pull that from his own film festival because that was the wrong narrative. So now we go to CBS, Face the Nation. Margaret Brennan with a doctor.

Many parents- Who is the former, what is he? He's former FDA dude. Probably no. ASD diagnosis rates are on the increase in this country. The CDC says the current numbers are one in 36 American children. This is a very broad spectrum of neurodevelopmental disorders. There's no established cause. On Thursday, the HHS Secretary Kennedy said he's got hundreds of scientists from around the world working on it. And he promised this.

By September, we will know what has caused the autism epidemic and we'll be able to eliminate those exposures. That gives tremendous hope to a lot of people. Do you know anything about that ongoing research? I know a minimal amount of effort that's been going on to try to relook at prior autism. Research, but I'm not aware of what is being discussed there. I cared for leukemia patients for a significant number of years. What? What does that have to do with the price of bread? What? I don't know.

It was like this weird switcheroo. I cared for leukemia patients. Real important stuff. Not this RFK Jr. nonsense. Giving people false hope is something you should never do. Oh, that's the connection. Yeah, false hope. I care for a lot of leukemia patients and giving people false hope is not good because it causes issues. That's not what we're talking about. Nobody's giving anybody false hope about anything. They're trying to figure out what started it.

There's always hope and I have seen miraculous cures take place in kids who I know personally cured from leukemia. Cancer free. It does happen, doctor. Is something you should never do. It is absolutely. You can be incredibly supportive of people. Wait, wait, stop. Everything is still beside the point. I don't care if anyone's cured for any reason whatsoever. False hope and finding what causes autism is a false equivalency. Yes. That's not the same.

Who cares about false hope one way or the other? Okay, so it does work. He's looking for a reason that this is happening. What is this doctor talking about? Well, I think he's trying to discredit Bobby. Well, he's doing a crappy job of it. But giving them false hope is wrong. If you just ask me as a scientist, is it possible to get the answer that quickly? I don't see any possible way. And remember, you're talking to the person who came up with Operation Warp Speed for vaccines.

Autism is an incredibly complicated issue. Wait a minute. This guy came up with Operation Warp Speed for vaccines. This is the guy? Well, isn't that interesting? You may want to change your voice. Yes, I came up with Operation Warp Speed. I don't think you want to be broadcasting that, bro. So we have the issue of diagnosis bias. We don't know how many of those cases are true. How much of this is true growth of autism? How much of this is just that we now have diagnostic criteria?

What was Operation Warp Speed designed to do? To ram through an unproven gene therapy disguised as a vaccine to save people from a cold. It was to develop a vaccine. That gave people hope. And what is the fear of all the vaccine manufacturers about autism? That somehow these vaccines, especially the 80 that they now give kids instead of the five or six when I was a kid. I'm sorry. The troll room has other ideas. It was to call the elderly. Well, there's that. But we're going to ignore all that.

But the point is, this guy is a mouthpiece for the vaccine people. So he is not going to do anything that's going to encourage Bobby Kennedy in any way, shape or form, if there's even a suspicion that this is going to be traced back to vaccinations. So this guy is a bad actor who should not even be on the Brennan Show. Well, well, imagine that. Imagine the mainstream media putting on someone to defend the big pharmas.

The president of the United States said something artificial is causing autism rates to go up. On Thursday, he said, maybe you stop taking something, you stop eating something, or maybe it's a shot. Did he say that? Yeah, he did. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. But something's causing it. Right after that, the HHS secretary appeared on Fox News and dismissed 14 studies that have shown no link between autism and vaccines. He said it is an epidemic. Epidemics are not caused by genes.

Genes can provide a vulnerability, but you need an environmental toxin. So we know that it is an environmental toxin that is causing this cataclysm, and we are going to identify it. Well, that sounds reasonable. Is there scientific evidence ruling out genetics as a cause of ASD? Oh, this is good. This is so good. What do you think his answer is? Well, he's going to have to deflect away from vaccination, so it has to be... Deny, deflect, and defund or something. Well, let's see what he says.

There's no scientific evidence ruling out genetics. In fact, there is data that has been published that say that genetics may contribute to autism. That's what he said. Kennedy said. The data that suggests that perhaps environmental factors may, but one has to be incredibly careful, incredibly careful about making associations between environmental factors and autism. There's a wonderful graphic that shows that Coca -Cola increase goes along with the increase in autism. What?

He just threw big food under the bus. He just threw Coca-Cola under the bus. Hey, dude, dude, dude, hold on a second. You know, we have Coke as an advertiser. Could you please calm it down a little bit over there? But there's also a wonderful graphic that you can find online that shows that the increase in spending on organic food also goes along with the rise in autism. It was the Whole Foods. The Whole Foods account is in jeopardy. Stop him, Margaret. False causality.

Scientists do not want to find false causality. We want to find true causality. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Okay. One more clip here from this. It stood out to us that Secretary Kennedy has hired someone named David Guyer to conduct analysis of the links between autism and vaccines. He was charged by the state of Maryland in 2011 with practicing medicine without a license.

That was weeks after his father's medical license was suspended for putting autistic children at risk by giving them a hormone blocking agent. Wow. You mean like a trans operation? I mean, gender affirming health care? So what should the public know or expect from the work that he will do? Wow. She's so dramatic about this. This woman should be off the air. No, no, no. I mean, you want NPR to shut down, PBS to shut down, Margaret Brennan to get off the air.

Yes, I want them to put us out of business. Well, okay. You better get those holo books ready. So what should the public know or expect from the work that he will do for the US government? So all I can say is I would not concede he's, to the best of my knowledge, he's not had any training after college in any of the sciences that we value here. What I think we can expect. You mean like medical school? Is that what he means? Training after college? Is that what that means?

So he didn't go to medical school? He specifically says sciences that we value. Oh, so like genetic studies or who knows? Yeah, okay. Whatever they value. Sciences that we value here. What I think we can expect is the expected. That there will be an association determined between vaccines and autism because it's already been determined. This is not how science is conducted. Wow. You should have said predetermined. Yeah. Because that would have had more impact.

You should have said it's already been predetermined because that has an onerous sound to it as opposed to determined. He screwed up. Yeah, he did. He's going to get a memo on this from Pfizer. Hey, dude. So I got two HHS clips. Watch your language. Hey, dude. Yeah, exactly. HHS late cutbacks. Trump administration officials stunned local health departments across the country when they announced in March that they wanted to take back $11 billion in public health grants.

Jackie Fortier with our partner KFF Health News reports. Local health departments have relied on the money from the Department of Health and Human Services for years. The grants began during the pandemic but could be used for other health issues such as mental illness, addiction, and infectious diseases. We're going to cancel 18 vaccine clinics. That's Teresa Cullen. She's director of Arizona's Pima County Health Department. The department lost $1 million in the clawbacks.

HHS spokesperson Bianca Rodriguez Feliciano said the department wants the money back because the COVID pandemic is over. The judge has temporarily blocked the cuts in some states, including Arizona. We got used to it. After a group of state attorneys. We got used to the money. You can't take that away. You gave it to us during COVID. But Cullen says Arizona state officials told her to stop the work the money was paying for. We've eliminated two and a half months of the provision of care.

Other states, including Texas, Minnesota, and Washington also canceled vaccine clinics they had on the calendar. In Washoe County, Nevada, the surprise cuts mean two contract staffers will be let go. Their job is setting up and marketing vaccination events, including for state-mandated back-to-school shots for illnesses such as measles. Okay, when I was a kid, back-to -school meant you got a new eraser and a new pencil and a sharpener and maybe a pencil case.

I don't remember back-to-school shots. Back-to-school shots. Hey kids, it's time for your back-to -school shots. Lisa Lotritz is director of clinical health services for the area. She's canceling community vaccine drives that were scheduled to start this summer. Without that team, I won't be able to do it because our core team can't be in two places at once. But I don't understand. What did they do before COVID? What were they doing? I don't know. I guess they weren't doing any of this bullcrap.

Well, what shots do you need when you go back to school? COVID shots? Well, probably flu, which now turns out there's a really good Campbell clip. I retweeted it on Twitter. A good what? That Dr. Campbell guy, that British guy, the British guy who comes out and he shows a bunch of studies and shows you know, how something doesn't work. And the latest is that you get 26 % better chance of getting the flu if you got the shot. Oh, yay. This year is way up. It's way up.

So you're going to get the flu for sure if you get the shot. Oh, that's great. It's part two of this, I think. That core team of nurses doesn't have time to run the local clinic and do the setup for community events. Community events? What is going on here? Community events. You don't need a community event. What are you doing? Like a like cornhole? But what is your community event? It's like potluck dinner.

That means they will no longer be out and about offering shots at churches and senior centers. Okay. Come to Fredericksburg. Please stand in front of our church and offer shots. Shots. That'll be funny. Free shots. Free shots. Yeah, you get shot all right. Instead, she says, patients will have to make an effort to come to them. Oh, no. Somebody please think of the children. Bam. Oh, John. Very good. Very good. And you were worried I was going to mess it up, but it worked out.

That was a God moment. Perfect. Someone that doesn't have insurance or doesn't have access to health care, they're going to be the ones that suffer from the cuts. This isn't the first time in her 30 -year career that Lautritz has dealt with the loss of funding, but she says her community is sicker now because of budget cuts over a decade ago. For example, a local grant that paid for home visits to pregnant women was eliminated.

More babies in the county are being born with syphilis, which Lautritz says could be prevented if that program was still around. What? I know. I said the same thing. Wait a minute. Do we now need syphilis shots? Like vaccines? Well, they used to go around door to door, but now that they've stopped going around door to door, more babies are being born with syphilis. What the hell is that all about? Wow. I thought I had a fear-mongering clip lined up. You know what?

I got to tell you, that series was definitely worth it. Thank you very much. Definitely worth it. Good. Okay. Here was going to be my now, in comparison, pathetic fear-mongering clip. So it's from NBC. I'm sad. I mean, well, not. I'm happy for the show, but man. In other health news, researchers with Virginia Tech are warning of a disease they say has pandemic potential. What could that be? I like the alliteration, pandemic potential. It's too long, but it would have been a show title.

Pandemic potential. What do you think has pandemic potential? What disease did we recently hear about in the news that we hadn't heard of for years, but now all of a sudden has pandemic potential? Well, first of all, I mean, the real one would be bird flu, but it's probably measles. It's called hantavirus. You may have heard about it recently. It's an infection that killed Gene Hackman's wife, and it also caused three deaths in California recently.

The virus is commonly spread throughout rodent droppings and urine or saliva and can cause serious illness in humans. How can that be? How can that? Does it transfer from human to human? How can it have pandemic potential if you get it from rat poop? This is, this is good. That's a question that obviously, as you play that clip, whoever's doing the thing will ask that question because there's journalism involved. Well, it comes at the end. Illness in humans, primarily affecting the lungs.

Early symptoms include fatigue, fever, muscle aches, similar to symptoms of the flu, but late symptoms can include coughing and shortness of breath. 38% of people who develop these respiratory symptoms may die from the disease. Now, this, so this is very tricky what she did here. So you can develop respiratory system, uh, symptoms, just like the flu, 38% of people who develop those symptoms can die from it because- May, oh, wait, wait, may die.

But she says, but she's saying from, she's making it sound like you're dying from the virus. No, you're dying, you're dying from pneumonia. Yeah, you're dying from pneumonia, which is very dangerous, but she's making it sound like rat poop is, like 38% of people die from rat poop. Shortness of breath. 38% of people who develop these respiratory symptoms may die from the disease. Now, researchers found three hotspots of hantavirus circulation in wildlife.

One of those is Virginia. 15 rodent species were identified as carriers, including six species that hadn't previously been hosts. Now, this is significant because some of those species live in regions where traditional hosts do not. Meaning there's more potential for the virus to spread quicker than thought.

Now, researchers are also able to get a better understanding of seasonal and climate trends, like warmer winters leading to increased rodent populations and drier conditions, like increasing the risk of spreading contaminated dust. The researchers plan now to further explore how changes in the climate can influence hantavirus transmission and you can reduce your risk of contracting the virus by eliminating or minimizing contact with rodents. Stop touching rats. Kids, don't touch rat poop.

Minimize your risk. You think that the people that take the subway in New York City would be the most susceptible? There's more movies of hordes of rats now currently. How come not one person in New York has gotten hanta? Because it's bull crap. It's bull crap. The whole thing is bull crap. And then remember, remember measles because we have all these anti-vaxxers in America, these stupid, stupid religious freaks who don't want MMR, MMR. How about the Canadians?

Would you say Canadians are compliant human beings who do what they're told with some grumbling? They grumble. They always grumble. But yeah, they will do what they're told, but they will complain. So they take their shots. Do they take their shots? Do you think Canadians take their shots? I would hope so. Well, explain this to me. The number of measles cases is skyrocketing in Ontario.

We've had 34 hospitalizations associated with this outbreak, and that's included two people who have required care in an intensive care unit. 470 cases have been confirmed to Public Health Ontario as of March 19th. The largest numbers are predominantly in the southern part of the province, with Southwestern Public Health reporting 223 cases and Grand Erie Public Health reporting 111 cases. People living in those areas, including the city of St. Thomas, are worried about the growing spread.

People that don't want to get vaccinated, and I don't understand that because it saves a lot of lives. My grandkids are older, so they're not really affected. They have their shots. I'd be concerned if they were babies. A number of measles exposures have been reported here at St. Thomas Elgin General Hospital since the beginning of February.

Public health officials say other people who visited around the same time need to be aware of these warnings because they can get infected even hours later after the infected person left. There are cases right across the country, most in people who aren't vaccinated. Because public health officials here don't know when the peak of this measles outbreak will happen, it's full steam ahead to reach out and encourage people to get vaccinated who have not already done so.

So it sounds to me like people are getting the measles at the hospital. It's the measles. Oh, people. I could do another boomer moment, but we've done that enough about the measles. Yeah, I think you've got the boomer thing out of the way. Yeah, well, it's never out of my blood. Now that I've accepted, I've just accepted the boomerism into my life. Yeah, you kind of relaxed into it. I have to because, you know, it's like, I hear people come up to me and say, hey, man, chill out.

I'm a millennial. No, I'm Gen X. My kids call me boomer. It's just what it is. And then I beat them and take away their allowance. Stupid boomer. Okay, boomer. I'm okay with it now. I wear it as a badge of pride. I wanted to go back to international stuff here for a second. Okay, I will give you a five minute warning. Oh, thank you. Yeah, let's start with Iran talks. Yeah, that is kind of important to talk about.

Today, the U.S. and Iran launched a new effort to negotiate a deal to scale back Iran's nuclear program. In his first term, President Trump pulled the U.S. out of an existing nuclear agreement with Iran and now believes he can negotiate a better one. For more, we are joined by NPR National Security Correspondent Greg Myrie. Hey, Greg. Hey, Scott. Hey, Greg. Hey, Scott. What do we know about this initial round of talks today?

So the two sides held talks for more than two hours in Oman's capital, Muscat, and the discussions were mediated by Oman. Now, this was just a get acquainted session. The sides are laying out some basics, a framework for the talks. And we know the key issues here. What will the limits be on Iran's nuclear program? And to what extent will Iran get relief from the tough sanctions imposed by the U .S.? But the mere fact that they met is certainly something unusual.

And the White House called the talks, quote, positive and constructive. Iran struck a similar tone and they agreed to meet again in a week. Let's try to sort out one possible gap between the sides. Iran called these indirect talks. The Trump administration called them direct talks. Which one is it? Well, Scott, both, it seems. The two sides were physically apart at this Oman government compound and Oman's foreign minister shuttled between them. So indirect talks.

But at the end of the session, the leaders of the two delegations met and spoke briefly. We're talking about Steve Whitkoff, Trump's Middle East envoy and Iran's foreign minister, Abbas Aghrachi. So it was also direct negotiations or at least something both sides can live with. He's characterizing that kind of in an odd way because from what I understand, they write a note. Then the Oman guy takes it over to the Iranian guys, hands of the note. They write a note back. It's like high school.

And then he takes it back and then he gives it to Whitkoff. There are no direct communications. It's all notes being passed back and forth. Yeah, well. Why? I have probably some agreement. They can't speak the same language. Probably has a lot to do with it. Very onward. Let's rewind a decade, Greg. The U.S. and Iran reached this nuclear agreement in 2015 under President Obama. Trump comes into office the first time around, says it was a bad deal, pulls out in 2018.

How would this deal be different? Yeah, that's the key question. Since Trump was so dismissive of that earlier agreement, he'll want one that he can present as much better. But the world has changed. Iran has now enriched uranium to a much higher level, about 60% purity, not quite the level needed for a nuclear weapon, which is around 90% purity, but close to it, something they could get to pretty quickly.

The U.S. will have to win concessions just to get back to the point where we were in 2018 when Trump unilaterally withdrew. Meanwhile, Iran is vulnerable right now. Its economy is very weak. Its military suffered setbacks last year in missile exchanges with Israel. So it could be more willing to make compromises. Iran says it wants to keep the talks narrowly focused on the nuclear program.

Trump and his team have spoken of broader goals, for example, ending Iran's support of proxy groups in the region. How do these negotiations with Iran fit with Trump's broader goals in the Middle East right now? So Trump has been very clear that he wants to avoid endless conflict in the Middle East, and a nuclear deal with Iran would certainly meet that goal, should certainly ease the tensions. But at the same time, Trump has been ramping up U.S. military involvement in the Middle East.

Today, in fact, marks four weeks since the U.S. began a daily bombing campaign against the Houthis in Yemen, a group that Iran supports. And the presence of an American aircraft carrier in the Red Sea off Yemen and a powerful B-2 bombers on an island in the Indian Ocean, not that far away, is also seen as a warning to nearby Iran. Most analysts believe Trump is unlikely to resort to force at this stage. They point to these nuclear discussions.

But the president keeps warning that if negotiations don't succeed, military force remains an option. Oh, man. And meanwhile, in Europe, they have this, there's a clip is the war clip at the bottom of the list, their war meeting in Warsaw. EU economic ministers have wrapped up a two -day meeting in Poland, focused on how to mobilize more money for defense at a time of economic uncertainty. Terry Schultz reports U.S. tariffs on the EU are adding to the bloc's difficulties.

EU economic and finance ministers met in Warsaw to discuss new ways the bloc is offering to help the 27 member states invest more in their own security. These include suspending the penalties governments incur for going into too much debt and offering loans backed by the EU itself as long as the money is spent on defense. EU economy commissioner Valdis Dombrovskis says such investment will pay off in other ways too.

Beyond enhancing Europe's security, we expect additional defense spending to also boost competitiveness and economic growth, drive innovation and create growth. Dombrovskis says the 25% tariffs on EU steel and aluminum exports that President Trump has left in place will hurt the U.S. more than the EU. Oh, of course. Of course. Of course, it'll hurt the U.S. more. So they're going to go into debt for war. Yeah, the Germans. Heaven forbid you go into debt to save, you know, to feed people.

From what I understand, 10 billion of it they want to take out of the public coffers like pensions. Don't worry. I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah. We're going to invest it in the war economy. It's going to be great. Now, typically, war economy is good. You know, you get people back into factories, you get back into Volkswagen and Audi factories. But yeah, you'll saddle your children up with debt. We know how that works. Yeah, it adds up.

I'm still very concerned about Germany and France, particularly Macron. I mean, I'm going to have, hopefully I'll have a bit of an expose about Macron being the true antichrist. I'm working on it. He's a loser as an antichrist. Let me tell you. Well, in general, the antichrist is not supposed to be the winner. I think Lady Gaga's got a better shot at it. She's just one of Satan's helpers. That's a different deal.

We have end of show mixes, meetups, including a meetup report, and several nights and dames. It's been a very good day for the roundtable. So lots of tasty goods for everybody who is hanging out with us. And of course, John's tip of the day. But first we are going to thank the rest of our producers who supported us with some treasure, $50 and above. Yeah, sorry. With Arthur Gobitz there in Zondam, Holland, $105. He's got a nice little note for you. It's written in Dutch.

Yes, he said, this is very, yeah, he says, I'll translate on the fly. He says a couple of shows back, you told that your daughter is going to be moving to Zondam. I just wanted to say that she is very welcome. And as far as Sander and I, they're both from Zondam, both producers. If there's anything they need, any help they want, we are here for them. Sir Hugger of Kitties.

I love that, you know, there's, you cannot get to a guy's heart faster than by saying you'll take care of his daughter in any way. I appreciate it. There you go. Yeah, that's very cool. I appreciate it. Brian Keefe in Sierra Vista, Arizona, $100. William Galt, Naples, Florida, $100. This is a switcheroo for my dearly departed wife. Nancy Daschner, she would have been 64 today. Oh goodness, way too young. Yes, I would say so.

Sir Kubalapedia, and he's in Wisata, Minnesota, used to be a famous place for CDs, $99 .99. Happy birthday to myself. Uh, Kathleen Cochran in Niskayuna. You ever heard of that? No, not heard of Niskayuna. Niskayuna, New York, $85. Not heard of it. Ah, there he is, Kevin McLaughlin. He's down there at 8008. He's the Archduke of Luna, lover of American, lover of boobs. Chris Perry, Silver Spring, Maryland, 7777. Here's one you can read this because it's Robin Tolbert in Topeka, Kansas, 7373, 7373.

That's a double, uh, happy birthday. And a ham radio, ham radio donation. And tonight, this birthday donation for John puts me over the line for Damehood. Please, Robin, Robin is a Dame. Please Dame me Commodore Tolbert, Dame early turtle of the Gethsemane, Gethsemane swamp. I'd like stir fry and matcha tea. Stir fry and matcha tea. Gethsemane, mommy, money? I thought it was Gethsemane. Is that wrong? It's Gethsemane. Oh, well, whatever. Who knows?

Well, I need to know because I'm about to pronouncicate her. I don't, somebody in the, in the troll room knows how to pronounce it. Well, I'm, I'm waiting and no one's still. That's going to take a while. It takes five seconds at least for them to hear the message, let alone type. Okay, hold on a second. She asked for a jingle here, which I hadn't seen. Uh, okay. Uh, what does she ask for here? She says, uh, for jingles, please play. There's no winning. Oh, goodness gracious. It's true.

I hadn't seen any of this pop up there. It's that's true. It's that's true. It's not, it's true. It's that's true. That's true. Where's that? That's true. That's true. Yes, that's true. And yeah, karma. Oh man. Okay. A lot of, a lot of stuff to do here. Okay. Oh, there's no winning. We don't like to foster a competitive atmosphere, but we laugh a lot. Now everyone hug and share a secret. That's true. Wrong one. You've got. Sorry. Karma. I tried. You tried. Baron Rob is up.

He's in Leiden, Holland. 73, I know 73, 73 salute you at the Leiden meetup. That's nice. April 17th. Meetups must be great. April 17th. Ryan. Tepper, Tepperton, I think. I think so. Tepperton in Burnsville, Minnesota, 73, 73. Another happy birthday. John Fuller in Colorado Springs. Another 73, 73 happy birthday. We're late to the party, but wishing John the best birthday in the universe. Mark Rudolph in Kalkaska, Michigan. 64, 46, which is a boomer donation. Yes, it is. There's the boomers.

The only one. Les Tarkowski in Kingman, Arizona, which is small boobs at 6006. Christopher Dechter, 56, 78. Freddie Vieira in Granbury, Texas. 54, 13. And he wishes a happy birthday to Samantha Vieira from Freddie and JCV. Spencer Jaffe in Rancho Palos Verdes, 52, 72. Richard Lindquist, 52, 72. And now we got already at the $50 donors, we're only 20 in or so. Devin Rogers in Sacramento. Mike Moon in Athens, Georgia. Andrew Grasso in Mineola, New York. Tom Del Vecchio in Blandin, Pennsylvania.

David Montoya, Marble Falls in Texas. Gary Mao in Woodland Hills, California. Brandon Savoie, Port Orchard, Washington. Beth Bradshaw in Ladson, South Carolina. Dame Patricia Worthington in Miami. Kennel Patalia in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada. Sir John of DMF in DMF. I don't know where that is. Paolo Moore in Fort Washington, Maryland. And last on our extremely short list here of a total of 35 people, Alan Bean, Baron Alan Bean in Beaverton, Oregon. I want to thank all these people for

show $17.55. Indeed. Thank you all very much. And thank you everybody who came in under $50. We will not read anything under $50. So you're guaranteed your anonymity. But also that's where we find a lot of people who have been kind enough to set up a recurring donation. You think you have one, go and check. They do get canceled suddenly around, certainly around the beginning of the year and towards tax time for some unexplicable reason. Go to noagendadonations.com.

If you haven't set one up, then why don't you do one today? It could be any amount, any frequency. It's up to you. It is all value for value. Go to noagendadonations.com. And celebrating in just two days, Sir Kubo, Kubopedia on April 15th. Sir Andy and Dame Kylie wish their daughter Lucilla a happy birthday. She'll be turning 17. And Freddie and JCV wish Samantha Vieira a happy birthday. And of course, we also say happy birthday for everybody here at the best podcast in the universe.

Now we have a couple of Dame notes. So we got a Dame note from NotASerialKillerKate who got this daming donated to her. And she says, my friend, Darth Penguin, completed my Damehood and I would like to join the round table. I would like to be known as Dame NotASerialKillerKate. Prosciutto and pepper jack cheese at the round table, please, noted and done. And then we have Lucas Williams, who has been donating $100 a month, every month since August 14th, 2021.

And upon my upcoming payment of April 14th, that is tomorrow, I will have provided value for value in the amount of four and a half thousand dollars. Holy cow, that's what I call sustaining donation. Thank you so much. He says, money well spent. I request you bestow four knighthoods upon me and my family.

Please knight me, Sir Lucas, foe of the People's Republic of New Mexico, my wife, Dame Carla, keeper of the beast, my firstborn, Dame Avery, slayer of giants, and my daughter, Zoe, Dame Zoe, civilizer of men. Collectively, we request Pecos, Valley Green, chili and strong martinis for the round table. Please keep up the good work. Very truly yours, Lucas Williams. So absolutely, thank you very much. And let's get these people up to the round table. Need a big blade for this whole family, Johnson.

I got a big blade. You got a very big blade. All right, so Lucas Williams, Darth Penguin, Andrew Glenn, Kate, Carla Williams. Oh my goodness, we got so many. Avery Williams, Zoe Williams, and Robert Tolbert. All of you are now dames and knights of the Noah-Jenner round table. I'm very proud to pronounce the following manor. Dame, not a serial killer, Kate. Dame Carla, keeper of the beast. Dame Avery, slayer of giants. Dame Zoe, civilizer of men. Dame Early Turtle of the Gethsemane swamp.

Sir Lucas, foe of the People's Republic of New Mexico. Sir Darth Penguin of Loctucky. Sir Andrew Glenn of Skell Morley, Knight of the Drop Note. And I ran out of tune, but I do have for you the crusty bloomer loaf along with unsalted butter and a jar of Bovary. Left hand brewery milk stout. Nitro and Vito and Nick's Pizza with unsalted butter and a jar. We already got that one. Prosciutto and a pepper jack cheese. Pecos Valley green chili and strong martinis and stir fry and matcha tea.

Oh yeah, we got to hookers and blow and rent boys and chardonnay for the kids. It's always great. Kids love that. And of course, mutton and meat at the table while you're all munching around. Get your cell phone out of your hollow book and go to noagenderings.com. That's where you will see you have these beautiful rings. They're for knights and for dames. They're signet rings.

So when you give us your address and ring size, which is available to measure on the website, send it to us and we'll send you the ring along with a stick of wax, actually two sticks of wax, which you can use to seal your important correspondence with the signet ring. And a certificate of authenticity. And once again, welcome to the round table, the No Agenda Knights and Dames. And congratulations. No Agenda Meetups. Yeah, but wait, the fun doesn't stop there. We've got the No Agenda Meetups.

These are producer organized gatherings. You can find that all at noagendameetups.com. We love it when you send in a report. Here's one from Fort Wayne. Adam and John, this is Shannon, Fort Wayne. We had a decent gathering today. We had a lot of like-minded folks. Happy birthday, JCD. Sir, PBR Street Gang, in the morning, John and Adam, for some reason, I've developed a list and I don't know what's from. In the morning, Dame Trinity, having a great time in Fort Wayne.

Looking forward to tomorrow in Indy. These end of show tips are worth their weight in gold. My first wife I met at a squared inch shindig. The next one I met at a sock hop. Bingo, boom, shaka laka. Were you telling people as a tip of the day to meet their wives at a sock hop? I don't think so. We got a couple of meetups taking place today. Well underway in Toronto is the Granite Brewery, the Must Be High 16 meetup.

The Indy No Agenda Rainstick Stirred Not Shaken meetup is underway at the Blind Isle Brewery in Indianapolis, Indiana. That's always a big one. They always send in a cool read up report. Remember to include your servers in these meetup reports. You love hearing them and it helps spread good cheer. We have the TooManyEggs.com Keene, New Hampshire meetup, which is also underway. Margarita's Mexican Restaurant, Keene, New Hampshire. You can still get there on time.

We have the Tax Day Hangover meetup. That'll be on Thursday. That's after tax day, two days after tax day. 6.30 at Lincoln's Roadhouse in Denver, Colorado. Charlotte's Thursday, third Thursday monthly meetup, seven o 'clock at Edge Tavern in Charlotte, North Carolina. And the final one on Thursday, the Fifth Amygdala Checkup, 7.33 borrowed Amsterdam time. Lokaal 1650 in Leiden, the Netherlands. Go to a meetup at least once. I guarantee you if you go once, it won't be your last time.

They're a lot of fun. You will have a lot of things in common. And it is the connection that you get there that gives you protection. They are your first responders in an emergency. So many telegram groups and text message groups, and everybody likes to hang out. And you'll meet some people, maybe even your future knight or dame. NoagendaMeetups.com. That's the calendar where you can go and find one. And if you can't find one there near you, you can start one yourself.

It's easy and always a party. Sometimes you wanna go hang out with all the knights and dames. You wanna be where you won't be. Triggered on hell's flame. You wanna be where everybody feels the same. It's like a party. I love my job and I love what I do. Yeah, I discovered the mystery ISO, which we couldn't find. You didn't know what they were talking about in the last show? Yeah. That's actually your noisemaker. It has uh-oh. Oh, the uh-oh. Yeah, you have it. Where's your uh-oh? Play it. Uh-oh.

Yeah, that one. That's exactly it. People think that's like I'm starting some jingle or something. No, that's you. That's all you. Uh-oh. It's all you. All right, I see that you once again have a slew of ISOs, probably all AI made. Why don't we start with yours? Because I'm so tired of going first. What do you have? Well, I'm always going first. You go first today. Okay, let's start at the top with Dag. Dag Nabbit, another winner of a show. Yeah, that's not bad. Although I'm tired of Carl.

That's Carl. Carl. What else you got? Flash. Wow, that made me want to flash the hosts. You're running out of ideas, John. Okay. I have some lewd ones I never put on. Yeah, and what's your last one? What? What? It's already over? Well, well, let me see. I have some real ones, you know, like OG, like actually did some work. Be awesome. Yeah, how about that? Be awesome. Huh? No good? Oh, God. No good? You're a boomer. This, I think I actually have a winner here.

We live in an era where podcasters have a lot of power. Come on, man. That's a good one. That's a good one. I don't care for it. We live in an era where podcasters have a lot of power. I could just start there. I could just say here's like, uh. Podcasters have a lot of power. I could start there. No, I guess not. Okay, if you want to do that, I'll let you have it. Podcasters have a lot of power. We do. Tons of power. And now, everybody, the power will be shown to you in John's tip of the day.

We all love it. Great advice for you and me. Just a tip with JCB. And sometimes Adam. Created by David Brin. First of all, we have to do a clarification on the last. This is happening more and more. Uh-oh. Your tip is no good. Why? Your tips are always good. What's wrong with your tip? Well, people make a good point because of the, it wouldn't have probably come up if I hadn't mentioned the tethering issue. The little bitty one that has a little spring-loaded breaker on it.

It's a very, which is one of the, we're talking about the window breaker. Oh, yes. The orange thing that cuts the seatbelt and breaks the window. Yes. Yeah, there's a, there's a version that is not a hammer, but a spring, excuse me, a spring-loaded little thing that I have one guy. Two guys have said they prefer this because it's on the key chain. So when your car flips over, whatever happens, you can always get to the key fob. Because it's in the ignition. Although with newer cars.

They're not in the ignition. They're not in the ignition. So it doesn't work with new cars. But it's beside the point. One guy says that he has taken this thing and taken it to junk yards and tested it on glass. Yeah. Now I'm tempted to call a few junk yards up and ask if I can do this. And tried it and it does break the glass. Well, surprise. Surprise, surprise. You know, there's, there, there's a device that I've seen thieves use on YouTube. And it's like a handheld device, like a pen.

And you hold it up against the window and it just shoots a little tip out and it breaks it. That would be something you could actually just slip in your pocket. Have you seen those? No, I haven't. But this is very similar device. It's not a pen. I don't know. Whatever the case, people should definitely have some, some device or other. Now we have another one that's going to create the same issue. Controversy, controversy, controversy.

And I would, I've been carrying one of these around for, I don't know, five or six years. I noticed that. Ah, switchblade. You don't carry around a switchblade? I'd cut you. I'm going to cut you. And I noticed that when I drove the big fire engine you brought up earlier at the Brunetti ranch, it was, you know, he had to have one, bring one of these out to start the thing. This is the solid state battery charger and battery replacement. This is a solid state battery, a jump starter.

You can buy these. You look up, I would say, a jump, solid state jump starter. You look it up on Amazon. Unfortunately, nowadays, there are so many of these things, including the one I have, they don't even have on the list anymore. But these things are small. You want to get something that's got 2 ,500 to 4,000 amps, if you can get it. 4,000 amps is good. They have, they're very simple. You put, hook it to the battery and usually they have a boost mode.

If you, if they won't start, you put, usually you start it right away. You hook it up and then you start the car. If you have a dead battery, it's handy when your battery goes dead. And you can start the car. And then if it won't start the car, you can push the boost button and you get like another, you know, 20,000 or 22,000 amps. It's a lot of amps. It boosts. And these things are also interesting because they'll probably start the car five to seven times before they need recharging.

And they also have outputs for like, if you want to plug your phone into it. You don't have enough juice to charge your phone for the next five years. So they're very handy. But there's a bunch of them now. There's like, I'd say, and they're all pretty much made by the two or three companies in China. There's another Chinese product. You probably should get it while you can. Yeah. It might cost $40. Woo. There's some that are pretty cheap. Does it have semiconductors?

Does it have any semiconductors in there? Cause that could be, could be exempt. Oh, it has to have, or otherwise you can't get that kind of power out. It should be exempt. Now that you mention it, based on what Letnik said. But whatever the case is, check these out. There's a lot of them you're going to have to, you know, you want a couple of things to look for. You want to have a lot of amps for the price because there's low amps that cost too much. And there's high amps that are cheap.

And then you want to make sure that has a booster mode. So it just gives it the full juice. It pretty much drains the thing. And it should have some outputs, some USB outputs for charging miscellaneous products. Fabulous thing. Everyone should have one of these batteries. Jay's got one. I've got one. Everybody, you know, people should have these. Everybody needs one. You need one. It's important. Boost, boost, boost. Get your booster, boost mode, everybody.

That is a tipoftheday.net to review all the tips of the day. All right, more Chinese junk in the tip of the day. It's amazing. How about an American product next time? Good old-fashioned American product. You know, something made in America. You know, because, you know, China no good. The asshole can't trust it. Hey, everybody, that is it. It's the end of our broadcast day. You've gotten your money's worth for sure.

We've taken it all the way up to three and a half hours, but we're happy to do it. We like deconstructing the media. We like showing you the absurdity of the absurd, where you can always experience the unexpected on the No Agenda Show. End of show mixes. Jesse Coyne Nelson and brand new from David Kekta, who doesn't know him. And right after we're done. Oh, it is episode 129 of Curry and the Keeper. Yes, I make fun of Tina and the stuff she wears at night when she goes to bed.

You don't want to miss that one. Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country in picturesque Fredericksburg, Texas. In the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I remain, I'm John C. Dvorak. We return on Thursday. Join us here for more No Agenda. Remember, please remember us at noagendadonations.com. Until that time, adios, mofos, hui hui and such.

Even just today, a missile was sent in probably by Russia, probably by Russia, probably by Russia to Poland, to Poland, to Poland, 50 miles into Poland. And people are going absolutely wild and crazy. Wild and crazy. Wild and crazy. We've got to get out of this stench. No, but. Stench? Wild and crazy. But. Stench? Wild and crazy. Election denier from that wing of the party. How are you reading these tea leaves? Probably by Russia, probably by Russia.

We've got to get out of this stench, stench, stench. Definitely not a Republican wave, that's for darn sure. Even just today, a missile was sent in probably by Russia to Poland, 50 miles into Poland, and people are going absolutely wild and crazy. You're paying $12, $13, $14 an hour for factory equipment. And you can move your factory for an hour for labor, hire a young 25. That's assuming you've been in business for a long time.

You've got to have no environmental controls, no pollution control. The best podcast in the universe. Podcasters have a lot of power.