1751 - "Talking Toilet"

Hey, I can't do Jack. Adam Curry. John C. Dvorak. It's Sunday, March 30th, 2025. This is your Warner and Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 1751! This is no agenda. Feelin' faffy! And broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Yulet Country here in FEMA Region Number 7 or 6. Good morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where we're watching Canada. I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning!

So this morning, one of our church ladies comes up to me and says, Adam, Adam, I have a question for you. What's that? Why do you always say FEMA Region Number 6? And I realized there's a lot of people, and I, for some reason, that was in my head and I said FEMA Region Number 7 just a minute ago. I don't know what I was thinking. And I realized that goes back to the Obama days. Yeah? Yeah, I had to explain it. People don't know what we're talking about.

I think a lot of people don't know what we're talking about. That's what I told her. In general. Most of the stuff, you probably don't realize what we're talking about, exactly. No, we just take stuff for granted. We do take stuff for granted. Hey, I had a dinner the other night. I had a dinner. Which was rather interesting, this dinner. Well, I guess so. You wouldn't have brought it up. Well, you're always asking me after the show, I am. Have you got any dinners coming up?

Yeah, it's so interesting. It gets me out of the house. We need some dinner stories. This was a good dinner. The international arms dealer was there. Ah, yes. He didn't really have anything new, although the entire fleet of African C-130s is now being outfitted with glass cockpits. But also there was the new CIO of the Department of Energy, who used to be on some kind of secret doge team. At the dinner at your house? No, it wasn't at our house. It was at one of our friends'.

It was like a 20-people dinner. We do these dinners. Oh, it's a big dinner. It's a hill country get-together. Oh, a gathering. Yeah, and we'd never been to these people's home before. A nice house, big house, you know what I mean? Big house, yeah. One of those hill country mansion houses. And so the CIO, he shuttles between his home here and Washington, D.C. He comes back for the weekends. Now, I think he's taken a 300% salary cut or something, but he's a patriot, and that's why he's doing it.

And so he's now the CIO of the Department of Energy, and he says, this place is crazy. I said, what do they do at Department of Energy? He said, well, that's a good question. Well, you know, the Department of Energy owns Area 51. You could have grilled them on that. I didn't know that. You should have prepped me. I told you. I mentioned it on the show before. I completely forgot.

Because I visited Nellis in Vegas, and I got on a tour of the place and got some training, and I got to sit in on some training. It wasn't for me. Were you flying a saucer? Yeah, hold on to this stick. And the guy mentioned it. He just has one of these curiosities. You know, we've got nothing to do with Area 51. It's owned by the Department of Energy. I always thought that was interesting. Well, good, because now I have something to ask him next time we have a Hill Country dinner.

Yes. And I said, what do you guys do? He said, well, that's a good question. What do you do? That's a good question. Excellent question. He was telling me about, you know, because he has a badge. He's got a badge. And so he shows up with his badge. And then he shows up with his badge. He's wearing a badge on his jacket? What do you mean? Well, that's what I said. I said, I mean, well, your badge to get into the building. He has a badge. He's got a badge. To get into the house?

No, no, in the Department of Energy, you fool. Of course not. Oh, so he's wearing one of those badges around his neck or something? Does he know that he's not in Washington or what? No, I'm saying when he goes there, he was relating a story to me. Oh, I'm sorry. I misunderstood. Clearly. So he has his badge, and he goes to the front entrance, and he gets two guys to escort him. And he says, what is this about? He said, oh, no, sir.

You with that badge, you're the equivalent of a two-star admiral here, which sounds impressive. And so he goes on to tell me. Is the badge on it? No, no, no, no. It's like a little picture, snapshot. He says what they mainly do is they run 12 labs. Labs. What do you mean, labs? Well, all the labs. What do these labs do? Mainly military stuff. And it's very unclear what these 12 labs do. They do stuff that has to do with energy. They do stuff. Stuff, stuff. Yes. He says mainly military.

And he says there was some – oh, no, I forgot the name of it. There was some organization, some council inside the Department of Energy, which I guess is gone now. And they were made up of military contracting companies, and they could determine what stuff the labs would work on. This is a sweet deal these guys had going on over there. So he said, well, we got in one week $380 million in savings. Just chop some stuff up. He says, we'll see what happens in week two. It was unbelievable.

But the cool thing about it, that was just one of the minor brushes with greatness that I had. So this home where we were at, I had not met these people. Well, yeah, I knew them from church. By the way, these are all church people. Oh, they're all churchies. Oh, they're all churchies. Oh, yeah. This is my people. It's my spiritual family, John. And so they moved from Houston, and it's a nice house. You walk up to the house, and the house goes, you are now being recorded. Hi, welcome. What?

It does? Yeah. You walk up to the house. Actually, it's the other way around. You're being recorded. Welcome. No. Hi, you're being recorded. So anyway. They had cameras all over the place? Oh, yeah. I say, so, hey, man, what do you do? He says, oh, I sell data centers. Oh. Oh. So who do you sell them to? The hyperscalers. Oh, I got some questions for you. And he gives a free email account, that guy? The hyperscalers are the AI companies. That's really who the hyperscalers are.

So his company builds data centers to sell them to all the AI companies. And he was very open with me what's going on and why it comes at the end. So I say, hey, is it true? Because I heard about it, and then CNBC, they were saying it wasn't true. Is Microsoft canceling contracts? He says, oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Plenty of companies are canceling contracts. Okay. I said, well, what is the problem?

He said, well, there's a little bit of a downturn in the expectation of what they'll actually need for AI data centers. And he says, the biggest thing is now that the training of the models, turns out, might be a lot cheaper based upon the deep seek. See, all this got down. Yeah, the Chinese. That's what my son tells me. The Chinese thing has changed the way people are looking at this. Well, it gets worse, or better, in my case.

So, you know, having your data center out somewhere, like at the oil barons former ranch that he sold for $15 million, it was worth three just because he had a transformer there, and there's no one around. And I told him he'll be able to buy that ranch back for pennies on the dollar. It's going to come true. He says, the big problem is the training, it's fine. You don't need to be anywhere. You can just be out in the middle of nowhere for training models.

But now that that seems to be slowing down, or the expectations are much more limited, he says, now people need inference. Are you familiar with this term, inference? Yeah, inference is a thing called an inference engine. Yeah, so that means when you need to query the system in real time, he says, it's no good. It can't have latency. It can't be too far away. You need huge data pipes. And he says, you can't do that with a Starlink satellite.

It was fine for training the data, but now when you've got to ship that data to end users, he says, they're all in the wrong place. And I'm like, okay, so. How much delay? What amount of delay is acceptable? Nothing. I use these things. If I have to wait five extra seconds, I don't care. Hey, are you going to argue with the guy who's living in the big house from this stuff, or are you going to argue with me? No, the guy with the big house always wins. Always wins. Don't argue with me.

You're being recorded. He says, the good news is a lot of Bitcoin miners are stepping up, and they're taking over those data centers because we have liquid cooling. And so I'm like, man, do you care? He says, I don't know. Not really. Why not? Well, we got bought out by KKR and BlackRock a while ago, so everybody already got their money. It doesn't matter. They can blow that up at any time. They don't care. We don't care. Everybody got paid. Nobody cares. Have you seen my house? Nobody cares.

Have you seen my house? He says, nobody cares. Nobody cares. So I'm thinking, I'm thinking there's trouble on the horizon. I said, well, how about quantum? He almost choked on his wine. Quantum. Quantum. Oh, no. Oh, no. Well, anybody who's anybody knows what's what. Yeah. Well, and so, you know, you can take that to DH Unplugged, maybe. Give your fans over there some inside intel. Well, if it's not a stock pick, then what's use? Well, the hyperscale, the hyperscalers are a big stock pick.

If not, they're bought by BlackRock and KKR. No, but he's not the hyperscaler. He sells to the hyperscalers. Yeah, but is he a public company? No. No, but the point, no, you have to understand. The point is that when the picks and shovels aren't selling, that's the bottom of the mine. Everything up on top is falling apart. Take it all the way up to the top, up to Microsoft with their copilot. Copilot. How about Oracle? Have you ever used it?

Oh, no, but Dave Jones has used it because, you know, he works. I've never used it. Now that you mention it, it keeps cropping up. I find it to be a nuisance. Well, if you say, yeah, I'll try it, then the first thing it tells me is, all right, well, you've got to have your OneDrive set up. I'm like, okay, click close. Yeah, this is classic Microsoft. I'm not going to log in. I am not going to log in. No, Dave Jones works in an accountancy firm, CPAs, and he says, it never works.

Nothing works for anybody there. They said, okay, copilot, draw me a pie chart. Okay, I'm done, and there's no pie chart. There's nothing. It's just nothing. It just tells you it did it. It drew it in its mind. Well, that's a good bit. It drew it in my homework. It drew it in its own imagination. It's dumb. Well, then, let me get this out of the way since we got on this track just about AI, because I think this warrants a little bit of conversation. I think this is a very interesting move.

Elon Musk just made an announcement on X that XAI has acquired X in an all -stock transaction. It values XAI at $80 billion and X at $33 billion. Keep in mind, Musk bought X, when it was then Twitter, for $44 billion back in 2022. For more, we turn to Bloomberg's Max Chafkin, who covers all things Elon Musk for us. So, Max, he suggests that the combined company blends XAI's advanced AI capability and expertise with X's massive reach. Are you surprised by this one?

Well, in some ways I'm surprised because we have this late Friday news in which one Elon Musk company is buying another Elon Musk company, not totally clear how they came up with the valuation. In another sense, it's not surprising because these two entities, XAI and X, have been kind of operating like one company. So X, which is the name for Twitter that Elon Musk gave it, has this chatbot inside of it, Grok. Grok was created by XAI.

XAI is training off of data from X. I know it's a lot of X's there, essentially all your social media data. And it's also seemed like one of Musk's plans to make this Twitter acquisition pay off, you know, he paid $44 billion and then promptly lost a lot of the advertising, was to kind of pivot to AI. So you did sort of think, how is he going to do this while having XAI as a separate company? And I think now we have the answer. Well, it was poor reporting by Bloomberg.

First of all, it was really $45 billion, but they carry over $12 billion in debt. This is a great way to keep everybody hanging in there. Hey, man, your $44 billion valuation just almost doubled. Congratulations. Now you're a proud owner of XAI stock. Nobody has any stock. It's privately held. No, of course they have stock. It's internal stock. He has like 40 shareholders. 40? I thought there was only 10. No, no, it's a huge list. Huge list. That list is public.

This is the kind of creative accounting that you run into. This is, again, an example of Musk. He must have some superstar guy that knows how to cook the books. He doesn't have time to do this. Someone else has to do this. No, he doesn't have time to do anything, but he found the guy. The guy. Hello, I'm the guy. The guy who can do this and that. He's a juggler. Look at this. Watch me act. Look at this. Whoa. It just turned into two balls. Woo! It's amazing. It's amazing. Magician.

So he found a magician, and he did his magic, and there you have it. But the best part of that report is that XAI Grok is trained on X. Oh, man, how can that be any good down the road? It's just going to be slop. I mean, it's also learning about those TikTok nut jobs that you always bring clips from. So it's learning all that stuff. It's learning. It could probably create a TikTok maniac. This learning term. I have one more clip. This learning term is a very tricky term. It's not copying stuff.

No, no. It's learning. Open AI is urging the Trump administration to loosen regulations on its industry, surrounding one of the most controversial aspects, copyrighted material. The tech giant submitted its proposal to the federal government Thursday, pushing the need for speed in AI innovation and to remove guardrails against tech companies, pointing to what it considers dangers posed for AI coming out of Beijing. China. AI action plan. Stargate.

XAI, however, is currently in a legal and PR battle with Elon Musk, who owns rival AI startup XAI and is one of the president's top advisers.

In its proposal, OpenAI expressed frustration with regulations that restrict large language models from learning from copyrighted content and expanded fair use material to train with, claiming it needs the freedom to innovate in the national interest and a voluntary partnership between the federal government and the private sector instead of overly burdensome state laws. This is truly the only danger of these types of people running around in our government. It's our president. He has no idea.

He trusts. Oh, yeah. It's great. AI is going to run the world. It's phenomenal. It's just, what could go wrong? And it's crap. Microsoft is not a dumb company. When they say, yeah, I think we're going to chill out a little bit on this stuff. It's the same thing they do with the Internet, I might add. Oh, of course. Well, at least. Well, yeah, you're right. But then maybe Trump will say, I invented AI like Al Gore. It's just now OpenAI wants to broaden fair use. Oh, OK. Well, that's great.

Can I just play songs on the podcast? Can I play songs on the podcast now just to broaden up the the fair use clause, which is the already kind of opened interpretation? It's like this is this is going nowhere. There really is. I know you keep saying that, but keeps chugging away. Well, OK, let's let's just presume it's really going somewhere. It's really great. Allow me to play a clip from our new CDC director, Susan Menares. A lot of people not happy with her.

No, this is this is this reminds me of the situation with the which I don't have any clips. I hear I hear chimes again, John. I'm hearing chimes. I just I'm kicking it because I got my feet up on the desk. I'm here. Is it me? Is it you? Jesus is coming. I hear chimes. I can tell you that probably for you. So I got my feet up on the desk. I'm lean back in the chase and and I got the chime thing is at the at the foot of the of my feet. It's right there so I can kick it like this.

Yeah. And it makes a ding. But but I'm using a highly directional microphone. You don't understand because we have a noise gate. If it was there in the background the whole time, people wouldn't notice it that much. But now whenever you talk, you just hear these chimes in the background. That doesn't change my attitude about this. I'm using a highly directional mic. Chimes are at the back and a mile away. Well, you know, the fact that this mic is picking it up. It has to be a reflection.

You should be. You should be using the Curry one microphone. Oh, I'm sorry. You can't buy it. So, no, never mind. It's coming. It's coming. Yeah. So we're going to go back to the CDC director, Susan Monaris. This is when she was over at DARPA giving a little presentation. What we can expect, I presume, from her as director of the Center for Disease Control. We think about advancing AI for health care and a number of different facets. So some are direct to the patients.

What tools and what capabilities can we develop to help them really understand where they are in their health care journey? Empower them to make great decisions. We also think about AI from the provider side. How can we help providers better understand their patients? What happened to doctors? It's just providers. It's just some. That's because a lot of doctors have been pushed aside for these nurses and these other. There's a second one. Yeah. Injector, injectors, nurse practitioner.

There's another thing. There's a provider. It's just dudes named Ben who press a button on the AI. I don't know anything. Well, they know how to press the button on the AI. But can we help providers optimize their time within the health system as they're seeing patients, as they're trying to make complex decisions to create the conditions for improved patient health outcomes, improved patient health outcomes? How about I don't die? Is that is that an outcome? I can choose that option, please.

We also think about AI from the defensive side. So we understand that there is a great vulnerable defensive side. It's defensive side. What? What? What? What does that even mean? Well, let's see if she explains it. We also think about AI from the defensive side. So we understand that there is a great vulnerability within the health ecosystem. More and more is coming online in the Internet of Things that are going to have an incredibly positive effect. All she does is buzzwords.

The Internet of Things. That's so. Who hired this woman? RFK Jr. Well, he's got his head up his ass if he gave her a job. But we also know it creates vulnerabilities. And so we're using that same AI technology to help defend against those vulnerabilities, to anticipate the negative implications that are happening within the health systems. Negative implications like you died. And to try to stay ahead of it. ARPA-H takes on the entirety of the health ecosystem. She's the buzzword machine.

Yeah. Internet of buzzwords. She has said nothing. No, it's the Internet of buzzwords. She's perfect. Try to stay ahead of it. ARPA-H takes on the entirety of the health ecosystem. Entirety. The entirety of it. Biomedical research. It's not just resilient systems. It's not just investing in the tech of the future. It is all of those. And what we do is we actually. And more. It's all of those. It gets better and better. It is all of those.

And what we do is we actually go out and we seat these incredible innovators. We call them our program managers. Program managers. Now there's a new position. They're incredible innovators, by the way. Yes, the program managers. Not just an innovator, but they're incredible innovators. Incredible innovators. They're great. We actually go out and we seat these incredible innovators. We call them our program managers. We call them our program managers.

And they come to us and they say, you know, here are the big problems that we're seeing in the health ecosystem space. The health ecosystem space. The health ecosystem space. The health, the HES. Hold on a second. What's the acronym for that? Health Ecosystem HES. That's not good. We will fund anything across the health ecosystem, so long as it helps further our mission, which is to improve health outcomes for everyone. Oh, everybody, your health outcomes are going to improve.

What a crock of crap that is. I knew you'd love it. It's great. It's great. Hold on a second. You played this as some sort of slam against AI. It's got nothing to do with any of it. Well, about the hype of it, it does. She's yammering about nothing. The problem is, these types of people believe this stuff. I mean, look, Queen Ursula is already talking about investing in quantum. Oh, we need to have quantum systems. It makes me laugh. She's taking European money and blowing it away. It's burning.

Yeah, that would be one way of doing it. I guarantee you that Susan Jomoke should be talking about quantum soon. I can guarantee it. Put it in the red book. Quantum. I don't have to put it in the book. You're right. Right now, you're right. And where's Larry Ellison? He's Mr. Healthcare. He should be talking about, oh, you know, we have to be prepared for quantum. He's almost died. I mean, the guy's, you know, accident prone. So he's, like, very health-oriented.

Oh, yeah, he crashed his plane and stuff, doesn't he? Oh, no, he's gotten in a surfing wreck, I think. He's out in the oceans all the time. He hasn't had issues. Well, speaking of wrecks, and then I'll get off the Elon stuff. This report made me think of something that I remember as a kid. Now, the lithium ion batteries, like the ones in EVs, are completely changing how fire departments are responding to these emergencies.

I talked to an expert who is traveling all over the country training fire departments. I think that this is probably one of the, in the fire service career, you know, decades, hundreds of years, this is probably the most challenging time for the fire service in history. And it's still, and it has barely even, we've barely touched it at this point.

So while these batteries have more power and they're lasting longer, the big concern is the design of the car, and then if that battery is damaged in a thing like a crash. These fires then end up burning faster and hotter, as much as 2,000 degrees. So firefighters are telling me that their top priority is pulling people out of the car. Then it can take on average 5,000 gallons of water to put out one of these car fires versus 500 gallons for non -EV cars.

I asked Aurora Fire where you get that kind of water. Fire trucks typically carry 500 gallons, and if you're not near a hydrant, let's say you're in the middle of the highway or somewhere rural, that could mean rotating out engines or bringing in portable water. And if there's one thing firefighters hope you take away from this is that a lot of EV car doors are electric, and that can go out during a fire, and then you are stuck inside. There's actually a manual way to open up those car doors.

You just have to know where it is. That information would be in your emergency guides. Ask Mitch McConnell's sister. You know, that's the one thing about these cars I don't quite understand, is why do they have to make it so everything's electrified? I mean, a mechanical door opener, it seems more practical because if the electricity goes out, you can't get out of the car. Oh, yeah, there's some mechanism that nobody knows how to use. I think it's pure cost.

I mean, what is the beauty of the electric vehicle is that it has far, far less moving parts. You just slap together some plastic. Yeah, moving parts do cost more, but how much more does it cost? Well, so that's the question. A buck? Five bucks? Ten? This is the question. What is the cost of safety?

So now we all know, without a doubt, you crash your electric vehicle, you have a chance that not only will your vehicle ignite at 2,000 degrees, it can't be put out easily, and they'll have to have the jaws of life because you can't figure out how to open up your door. And it reminded me of this. In the 1970s, Ford's Pinto had a major defect. The gas tank was prone to explode in rear-end collisions.

What made this controversial wasn't just the flaw itself, but Ford's internal cost-benefit analysis that revealed that it would be cheaper to pay off lawsuits than to fix the design, resulting in an estimated number of 180 deaths. Do you think they've done the cost-benefit analysis of the battery igniting in electric vehicles? I think all these car companies, all they do is cost-benefit analysis. I think, I don't know where you got that old clip. I had to go look for one. Boy, I'll bet you did.

I had to search. I had to search. But, yeah, they do cost-benefit analysis on everything. That's probably why they don't have the mechanical door opener. Right. Although it is kind of cool the thing comes out and everyone thinks everything's cool, but it's still dumb. Yeah, well, it's not cool. It's literally not cool if you're frying alive inside, but that was such a big deal. You should have one of those ping, you know, you have these things. Yeah, the hammer, the hammer ping.

The little bitty hammer with a piece of, it's got a little tip on it that's diamond. With a razor blade to cut your seat belt. Diamond tip, yes. It's true, it does that too. Because that's not going to unlatch either, but you're moving beyond the point. How can, this was a huge deal in the 70s. This was a big deal. My grandmother had a Pinto. She's like, ugh. It wasn't that they were blowing up left and right, but it did happen.

But it was, as the clip just explained, it was the fact that they said, well, it's cheaper just to solve the lawsuits than to fix the problem. Yeah, I'm sure it is with these cars. Now, the 50,000 gallon thing is what bothers me. 5,000, not 50, 5,000. 5,000 as opposed to 500. Yeah. And it was a factor there of 10. Yeah, 10. So, is that if somebody, and I don't understand why this can't be done chemically, because it's a chemical reaction. Flour. I hear flour is a good way to put out fires.

I don't think it's good on this. There's got to be some chemistry that you can employ that would put this fire out. There has to be. I don't think so. These things are just, these are nuclear generators. This is a lithium fire. This is like sodium does the same thing. Well, let's ask Grok. I don't think Grok would know because I don't think it's in the literature. What chemical compound can extinguish a lithium-ion battery fire? Answer the question. Go. Well, nothing. Oh, wait.

Best compounds to extinguish lithium-ion battery fires. Lith-X, which is a graphite-based powder. Lith-X? Never heard of it. Never heard of it. I think Grok is making something up. Hey, it's another X product. Lith-X. It's got X in it. It must be something. It must be. Class D dry powder extinguishers, which often contain sodium chloride or copper-based powders, fire-suppressant gels, or tetrapotassium pyrophosphate. Well, now you're talking. Now it sounds like something that would do something.

TKPP is what they call it. Tetrapotassium pyrophosphate. Hmm. What not to use? Water. CO2 or halon. Halon. Definitely not halon. Anyway. Well, the problem with water is that it, you know, like, for example, sodium, and they've batteries, too, which are just explosive, is that sodium, when it comes, when metallic sodium comes in contact with water, it begins to form hydrogen. It breaks the water down into hydrogen and oxygen, and then they catch on fire. Yeah, it explodes.

Nice. And that's what a lot of kids used to do in certain colleges and high schools when we had labs. Certain colleges? Well, labs. Some jerk would grab a chunk of sodium, if he could get a hold of it, throw it down the toilet, and flush it. Oh, like a Cherry Bomb Plus. So somewhere down the line, the thing would explode and blow up to the sewer. Not a good idea. No. Anyway. Another reason to keep kids away from chemistry. Yeah, keep them away from chemistry, and don't drive these battery cars.

They just don't seem like safe products. I don't care what they tell me. It's not a safe product. Coming in over the transom this morning from your gal with the manhands. Is Welker the manhands lady? Yeah, Welker. Welker. Welker the manhands. President Trump called her personally this morning, called her, and told her to tell America the following.

Just hours ago, President Trump called me to tell me he is, quote, pissed off with Russia's President Putin, and threatened to impose secondary tariffs on Russia's oil. Quote, if Russia and I are unable to make a deal on stopping the bloodshed in Ukraine, and if I think it was Russia's fault, which it might not be, but if I think it was Russia's fault, I am going to put secondary tariffs on all oil coming out of Russia.

Mr. Trump said 25% tariffs on Russian oil could happen any moment, and told me he plans to speak with President Putin this week. The president told me, quote, I was very angry, pissed off, when Putin started getting into the- She likes saying that. She likes saying it. She likes saying it. This is the only, because it's a quote, she would never say it normally on TV because she's not like a cussing Democrat in essence. She's a Democrat, but not a cusser.

No, no, no, no. But now this gives her the excuse to do it. It's like shithole countries. It's perfect. I get to say pissed off. The president told me, quote, I was very angry, pissed off, when Putin started getting into Zelensky's credibility and started talking about new leadership in Ukraine. Wait, but wait, there's more. On Iran, the president said he's also considering secondary tariffs if Iran doesn't agree to a nuclear deal.

Quote, if they don't make a deal, there will be bombing, and it will be bombing the likes of which they have never seen before. Bomb them, bomb them, and bomb them again. Woo, baby. President, mad, mad. He's mad. Pissed off. You know why? He looks hungry, man. He's lost a lot of weight. Have you noticed this? No, I have not. Oh, he must have dropped 25 pounds at least. At least. I wonder why. Bobby. Bobby is probably right. Bobby is like, hey, Donald, Mr. President, you're a fat slob.

This is not good. The president sets the tone. So everybody's cussing. That's good. Good work, Mr. President. You got everyone cussing. You got that part. You got everyone cussing. You got Welker is saying pissed off. That's good. That's good. You got everyone shaking in their boots. You're going to bomb the Iranians like they've never been bombed before. But you got to get America healthy again. Aha. You got to get America healthy again. You've got to lose some weight.

You know, you might be right. Because Trump, I think, is amenable to the idea that he sets the moral tone. And it's more than a moral tone. I mean, it's a moral tone, basically. But it's also the, you know, like JFK is the one who initiated the five-mile hike. Everyone should go on a five-mile hike. And everyone's going on five-mile hikes for some reason. Yes. And the president looks happier for it. His face looks good. It looks, you know, he probably has much less inflammation. He looks good.

Yes. His triglutarates or whatever, I'm sure they're all down. Triglutarate. His numbers are down. And America loves this president. This is CNN. He's basically more popular than he was at any point in term number one. And more popular than he was when he won election back in November of 2024. What are we talking about? Isn't that favorable rating right now comes in at minus four points? Compare that to where he was when he won in November of 2024 when he was at minus seven points.

Or March of 2017 when he was at minus ten points. So when you compare Trump against himself, he's actually closer to the apex than he is to the bottom of the trough. And of course, that's so important because Donald Trump, historically speaking, has had his numbers underestimated. This is great. I love it. He's closer to the apex. This guy comes on CNN all the time and he's jumping around and he's going nuts. He's good. He's closer to the apex than the bottom of the trough.

Nice. So here's an ABC report on the H since we're talking about Bobby, the HHS cuts, job cuts. So I'll play this report. And then after that, out of the horse's mouth himself on the kid Cuomo show. So listen to this report. Tonight, the secretary of Health and Human Services, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., announcing a massive overhaul. The agency that oversees America's health, supervises Medicare and Medicaid and monitors food and drug safety.

It includes cutting 20000 people from the department, a quarter of its workforce. This will be a painful period for HHS as we downsize from eighty two thousand full time employees to around sixty two thousand. I want to promise you now that we're going to do more with less. But experts, including Dr. Richard Besser, former. Did you notice there was a little edit there?

Director of Centers for Disease Control and Prevention insists you can't cut that many jobs without people in America, quote, suffering. I worry that in this drive to cut positions and save money, critical programs that impact on people's lives are going to be cut as well. Kennedy also plans to consolidate. Hold on a second. The critical programs aren't the problem. No, no. But this is this is what is affecting people's lives. They're talking about 20000 people laid off. This is a jobs program.

That's kind of what's in all this. No, you're correct. It's a form of welfare. What the media has been doing, the M5 has been continuously getting people on who are who are, if not outright saying it, insinuating your Medicare is going to get cut. Your Medicaid is going to get cut. Your Social Security hit. You might as well kiss your check. Goodbye. Trump's in town. It's must scratch a Tesla. Critical programs that impact on people's lives are going to be cut as well.

Kennedy also plans to consolidate agencies within HHS. We're going to eliminate an entire alphabet soup of departments and agencies while preserving their core functions by merging them into a new organization called the Administration for a Healthy America or AHA. The FDA will lose 3500 employees and the CDC will lose 2400. That agency also narrowing its scope to focus on preparing for and responding to epidemics and outbreaks.

For decades, the agency has handled so much more monitoring nationwide health trends, including chronic diseases, firearm injuries and overdose deaths. So this is all just negative spin, all negative spin. And they've even cut out the part where he says the following on the Kid Cuomo show. We're not going to cut services. We're not going to cut Medicaid. We're not going to cut Medicare. We're going to continue. We're going to provide services, but more efficiently.

Thanks to Elon. And by the way, what Elon did with our agency is going to help our agency. So I'm very grateful to him for me. He came in for the first time with a real org chart for the agency. The agency org chart, when I arrived, was incomprehensible. There was no chain of command. There were people operating in all these different silos and fiefdoms. And they were so territorial and so self -serving. They were selling patient information to each other.

So I tried to get to CMS patient information, which belongs to the American people and belongs to HHS. And the sub-agencies said we have to buy it from them. And it doesn't make any sense. There are sub-agencies that refuse to give us patient data. This is depersonalized data. We need to make American healthy again. What Elon is doing is he's using AI to improve health, to improve efficiency, to improve delivery.

He had a bunch of geniuses come over to the department, create an org chart that worked, and consolidate. We have many divisions that are doing the exact same thing. We need to consolidate them and give them a sense of mission. To invite them to participate in making our country healthier again. And I think that's why we're getting a very, very strong enthusiastic reaction from people within the agency. Yeah. Well, so they didn't really tell you all that.

You had to go to Newsmax to get that information. That wasn't Newsmax. That was Newsnation. Oh, I'm sorry. It's right next to it on channel 735. Yeah, it's a completely different operation. Newsnation is done by the Chicago Tribune. Newsmax is done by some right wingers. But I think they still have the same amount of viewership. I'm just guessing. Yeah, none.

Yeah. So what I thought was a very interesting piece, and it showed that it was good because you really, I've been monitoring since Friday. Not a single M5M, like an MSNBC, CNN, or any of these outfits have used any clips to say these guys, they suck, they're no good. And that was the executive DOJ team on Brett Baier. Did you have a chance to watch that? That was dynamite. I have a couple of short clips if you want to hear some. I'd love to.

I mean, I have to say that this is another example of Musk's real talent. Yeah. Which is picking guys like this. Yes. He just had a bunch of heavy hitters. He had like the co-founder of Airbnb, a billionaire, you know, one guy's CFO for five public companies or something. All these, yeah, heavy hitters. And they're all sitting there like, oh, yeah, well, this is what we do. And did you notice the milieu in so far as at least two of them on the group talked just like Musk? Oh, yeah.

That fast patter and kind of this weird milieu style that's peculiar to that group. Well, I hear they all go out back and smoke cigars from time to time. I can't divulge where I heard that from, but I believe that to be true. I wouldn't be surprised. Yeah. Of course. It's what you do. Hey, boys. Let's crack a Cohiba. We routinely encounter wastes of a billion dollars or more. Casually.

You know, for example, like the simple survey that was a 10 question survey that you could do with SurveyMonkey cost about $10,000. The government was being charged almost a billion dollars for that. For just a survey? Yeah. A billion dollars for a simple online survey. Do you like the National Park? And then there appears to be no feedback loop for what will be done with that survey. So the survey would just go to nothing. It was like insane.

Now, later in there, one of his lieutenants said, well, it was 860 million, which I thought was that's not quite a billion dollars. So that was a little reckless. Well, if you listen to him carefully, I listen to that again. Musk says almost. Yeah, I know. Yeah, I know. Almost a billion. That's almost a billion. Almost a billion. Well, that's a little over half a million. By his calculations, I mean, the guy's worth 300 billion. So it's like almost a billion, not quite. Oh, I dropped a billion.

Whatever. Who cares? So here is the big social security fraud, which rings very true. The two improvements that we're trying to make to social security are helping people that legitimately get benefits, protect them from fraud that they experience every day on a routine basis. And also make the experience better. And I'll give you one example. This is one of those milieu guys. This was the guy sitting next to her.

At social security, one of the first things we learned is that they get phone calls every day of people trying to change direct deposit information. So when you want to change your bank account, you can call social security. We learned 40% of the phone calls that they get are from fraudsters. 40%? That's right. Almost half. Yes, and they steal people's social security is what happens. They call in. They claim to be a retiree.

And they convince the social security person on the phone to change where the money is flowing. It actually goes to some fraudster. This is happening all day, every day. And then somebody doesn't receive their social security is because of all the fraud loopholes in the social security system. Now, I want to believe this. But I know that Tina just recently changed her social security bank information. And she could not make a phone call. So maybe she hadn't tried it previously, of course.

And she had to do it online. And they said it would take two months, which seems like a long time. But if you indeed can call in, then I'm sure that's probably true. So let's go back to HH. Yeah, we're getting fraudsters on the phone. This is a situation that, you know, why don't we get to the heart of this? You can complain about this. Oh, yeah. These fraudsters are calling this way and that way.

All these phone scams, whether they're fraudsters stealing somebody's social security or they're trying to get me to buy some dumb thing that doesn't exist or get my bank account number. I just don't get it why we can't put a stop to this once and for all. Oh, I can tell you. I know, I know. This and that. There's a system the way it's set up. No, no, no. You don't know. You can jump all over me and say I know, but you don't know. You know nothing. I know something. Well, you know a little.

What I was going to say is what will come out of Musk's mouth will be there's no other way. We all have to have a digital ID. Oh, well, that doesn't surprise me you'd say that. Or at least an X account. If everybody gets an X account, we'll make sure that you'll never be defrauded again. That's I don't see any other way to do it. You can clone phone numbers. So that's easy online. That's the problem right there. That's the cloning phone numbers is easy. You just said it.

Yeah, but that should not be the case. You shouldn't have to have a digital ID. You should be. It should be impossible to clone phone numbers. That's the kicker. You're going to get a digital ID. It's just it's not going to help. No, but I have a digital ID and there's some fraudster will call me up with a phony digital ID or whatever. Doesn't make any difference. They're going to they're going to clone a phone number they don't have.

The next thing you know, they're going to be trying to scam me. How about this? You just have to show up in person at your office and you get cash. Nobody will do that. I'm telling you, they got to do something. The phone system at at writ large. Let's use that term. There you go. Writ large. The phone system itself is flawed. Yeah, but so but the Internet's any better. A web browser. I'm working. I'm worried about the phone right now. OK, well, you don't you don't even use a phone.

Well, that's beside the point. OK, let's go to HHS. Another example at NIH is today they have 27 different centers. They got created over time by Congress and they're typically by disease state or body system. There's 700 different IT systems today at NIH. 700 different IT software systems. They can't speak to each other. So they don't talk to one. They have 27 different CIOs. And so when you think about making great medical discoveries, you have to connect the data. Time out. Time out.

You see 27 different chief information officers. Correct. Correct. And most of them are non-technical. There's a lot there. There's a lot of opportunity. It will make science better, not worse. All right. They had similar complaints about the IRS. Brad mentioned 27 CIOs. If you had kept going with Brad, he'd probably talk about the communications office. You've got 40 distinct communications offices in HHS. I love that. Communications offices. That's marketing departments. That's wasteful. 40?

Yeah. And that's not unusual, by the way, multiple offices like that. It's not making anyone healthy. This is not about the employees. There's many, many hardworking, well-meaning people who took these jobs. These jobs were out there. They applied for them. They took them. They're doing what's there. It's just that they're duplicating the effort of 40 offices. So you've got that. You've got overstaffing.

A good example of overstaffing would be the IRS has got 1,400 people who are dedicated to provisioning laptops and cell phones. So if you join the IRS, you get a laptop and a cell phone, you're provisioned. So if each of those IRS officers or employees provisioned two employees per day, you could provision the entire IRS in a little more than a month. Yeah. That's always great. That's great. And then this is one that I would look at in my own company when we had 700 employees.

This is an easy one. And just the one that is in my head right now, which is a fairly mundane one, but I think is very illustrative, is credit cards. Oh, yeah. There are in the federal government around 4 .6 million credit cards for around 2.3 to 2.4 million employees. This doesn't make sense. Right. And so one of the things all the teams have worked on is we've worked with the agencies and said, do you need all of these credit cards? Are they being used?

Can you tell us physically where they are? I hope they're getting frequent flyers. Actually, on a different note, the rewards program the federal government has is actually not very good. That's a whole other... It's a negotiation. Yeah, exactly. But so far, the teams have worked together, and they've reduced it from 4.6 million to 4.3 million. So we're taking it easy. But clearly, there should not be more credit cards than there are people.

Oh, man. Think New Ideas, that was the company I mentioned with 700 people. We had one guy with one credit card doing all the travel. And we started noticing that his wife had nice jewelry, and they had all kinds of cool gadgets at home, brand new vacuum cleaners. And turns out, he was taking all of the rewards points and cashing them in for himself. It was a classic. Oh, yeah. I think that happens everywhere. I bet it's happening in government. They're guffawing about the rewards program.

I'll bet you there's lots of people like, oops, oh, boy, I was taking those points, getting free flights everywhere. That's what you do. I think that's what you would do. If you had the opportunity, you have this card, you're centralized something or others, or you're doing a lot of charging and reward points are building up, not for the company, but for you personally. For you, yes. Yeah. What would you do? What would anyone do? And here's my final pitch for digital ID.

The minute you pop out of the womb, people. The ways that the government has defrauded is that the computer systems don't talk to each other. So if the computer systems don't talk to each other, then you can exploit that gap. And fraudsters exploit that gap to take advantage. For example, there were over $300 million of small business administration loans that has been given out to people under the age of 11.

Well, actually, to add to this, $300 million under the age of 11 and over $300 million to over the age of 120. Definitely. Small business loans, correct. Yes. The oldest American is 114. So it's safe to say if their age is 115 or above, they're fake. Or they should be in the Guinness Book of World Records. And we should not be giving out loans to babies.

So the youngest recipient of a small business administration loan is a nine-month-old, which is a very, very precious baby we're talking about here. So obviously, it was just fraudulent. And they do terrible things. They actually will see that a kid's been born. They will steal that kid's social security number and then take out a loan and leave that kid with a bad credit rating. There was literally a baby. The terrible things are being done is what we're saying. I'm telling you.

It's either that or a tattooed barcode. They got to come up with some ideas here. It's not going to fly. Barcodes. Yeah. And then this will be the final one. Because, of course, what Elon is doing is he's destroying the government. He's destroying everything. He's going to take away your social security, President Elon. Let's go protest at that Tesla store. People are organizing protests across the country against Elon Musk's role in the federal government.

Several protests took place today in the suburbs and in Chicago. WGN's Angelica Sanchez reports on today's demonstration near the mag mile. Get your Tesla off the road. Elon Musk is set to go. Outside the Tesla showroom on Chicago's Rush Street. I'm really upset about what's going on with the government and Elon Musk's hand in it. Protesters urge Tesla vehicle and stock owners to sell. Sell your car.

I'm very concerned that someone who was not elected to the federal government has this much power. I think it's important that we all show up and say something. Saturday marks a global day of action in the Tesla takedown movement with demonstrations planned outside Tesla dealerships across the country against Elon Musk and his role in the Department of Government Efficiency. Seven of those demonstrations are Chicagoland locations. He does not speak for Congress.

And yet it seems like institutions and the administration more broadly are acquiescing to these demands. Fans of Musk are vowing to counter protest the movement and some showed up to defend the billionaire in some cities. Musk is pushing to improve the image of Doge. In a Thursday interview with Fox News, he stated he is being careful and compassionate with this overhaul of the federal government.

Even as criticism has been mounting over his previous posts on X and emails demanding information from federal workers. So at 12 noon, many of these protests just stopped. Just stopped. The people left. Why, you ask? Why? Because they were hired. They were only there for four hours. There was no overtime. No overtime. No overtime. And I have a copy here of the chant sheet. I shall give you a few of the chants that the Indivisible Organization handed out to everybody.

Elon Musk, go to Mars. We don't want your swastikas. Elon Musk is unelected. Democracy must be protected. The people united will never be defeated. That doesn't even rhyme. What is that? That's a bad one. That's no good. Hey, hey. Ho, ho. President Musk has got to go. Or we will not cooperate with your techno -fascist state. And two more. Public workers work for us. Can't say that for Elon Musk. And my favorite. Democrats, grow a spine. Now is the time to draw the line.

What I find fascinating is, almost walking distance from my house here, is one of the regional Tesla repair centers. And on the streets, there's probably 50 Teslas all around, just surrounding that. There's no protests around here. Nobody in Berkeley, which is loaded with Teslas, is getting their cars swastikas or anything. There's nobody in California, at least northern California. Nobody's... This isn't happening. Well, have you ever heard the term, don't piss in your own nest?

They're all going out of state. Apparently. Yeah. Yeah. So, it's just political... It's pathetic political theater, is all that it is. And then you got Chuck Schumer yelling like, we're going to drag President Trump's ratings down. Oh, wow. Schumer. Schumer. Wow. Wow. That guy got lucky with the Myanmar earthquake, which sucked up all the news. Yeah, you got to wonder if that was the earthquake machine. You know, I hate to say it. Yes. That's the first thing I thought.

Me too, because that was a doozy, man. Because I've been to Bangkok, and I've been to, well, right underneath Myanmar, which they used to call Burma. Yeah, but that's 600 miles away. I know. That's a massive distance. And you see the rooftop pool. Yeah. Where all the water's coming off the side. And by the time it hits the street, they had a, there's one video floating around where, because people were talking about it over dinner, about, well, you know, water coming down, it's just like rain.

But no. No way. It hits the street like a monsoon. It's not like a monsoon. It's like a tidal wave. It just whacks the street and just wipes everybody out. Have you seen the video from atop that pool? Yeah, with sloshing around. And the floating stuff is going over the side. I thought, because I saw that video on X, and I'm like, oh, man, is someone going to get sloshed right over? I mean, sad, but that would have been awesome. What do you mean by awesome?

But, I mean, and those apartment buildings that were under construction coming straight down, almost like the Twin Towers. It's interesting. It kind of reminded me of that. It literally collapsed unto itself. But that is a, now, is that a known fault line from Burma down to Bangkok? I'd never heard of that. I don't know what that, it hasn't been explained yet, but I do have a couple of clips. I'll catch up to it. All right. This is BBC, of course, and you might as well use your voice.

And now time for the BBC World Service. Yeah, this is an earthquake story. Okay, from the BBC World Service. Oh, by the way, this is the only good news. This is funny because they were just tons of material on this earthquake. But this was the kind of the good news story I thought was cute. Oh, nice. And now, good news from BBC World Service. The death toll from the earthquake in Myanmar is already up to 1,600 people. This is your good news? It becomes good news. It gets better, okay.

And that number is expected to rise quite sharply, probably, as more information comes out. It is hard to get a clear picture of what's happening in the worst-hit areas, and there are a number of reasons for that. There is a civil war. Communications are, for the large part, down. Occasionally, as you'll hear, we do get some voice notes out. The ability of journalists to do their job is also an issue.

Oh, no. Reporters Without Borders says reporters there face the risk of torture, arrest, or murder. So, obviously, very cautious in what they say. Mandalay is the hardest-hit city in Myanmar. And in neighboring Thailand, 11 people are known to have died, and at least 50 construction workers are still missing. That's because they were actually working on a building, so it wasn't secure. So far, great news. I'm very happy with this. Hey, just play the clip. Collapsed.

But there was some good news, and this is a remarkable bit of tape. What a way to start a life. A Thai woman went into labor just as the earthquake hit, and both she and the baby survived. She described what happened. Luckily, I was on the fifth floor. The medical staff were holding both my arms as we made our way down the stairs. The doctor kept saying, it's all right. The hospital staff did very well in evacuating us. They did their best. I was telling my baby, don't come yet.

But the pain kept growing and growing. Then I was put on a hospital bed and was surrounded by a lot of medical staff, where I just gave birth right there and then. It was all a shock to me, too. Once my baby was born, the ground stopped shaking. I felt great. I saw my child, and the earthquake stopped. Wow. That is great. Thank you, BBC World Service. That's phenomenal. That's what we call human interest. That's what we call it. That was a good story. It was the baby that caused the earthquake.

That's the way you have to conclude. I got it. Once the baby was there, the earthquake stopped. Perfect. Boom. Done. So here's part two. Lucky baby. Happy mom. Well, the first emergency response teams have arrived in Myanmar now, and the U.S. military has arrived in Myanmar. The U.N. is trying to coordinate much of that effort. Tom Andrews is the U.N. special rapporteur on the human rights situation in Myanmar. He's actually currently in Bangkok.

Having just got back from the Thai-Myanmar border, there he met people from the National Unity Government in Exile. That's the group that was set up after the coup in 2021, trying to replace the military regime. So on the basis of what he heard down on the border, he gave me the latest information on what's happening. The U.N. has operations on the ground. Pledges are coming in. The United Nations has a relief fund operation right now that's in place.

The ASEAN network of ASEAN countries are making an appeal and putting its emergency operations into play. There are various operations that are in place and that are trying to gear up as quickly as possible. The question is, will that aid be able to get where it needs to go? Will the military junta put up blockades of it going to areas that it just doesn't want it to go, those opposition areas, resistance areas?

We know that every crisis that we've seen, every natural disaster that we've seen in recent years, they have blocked aid. They've created very significant problems in getting aid and assistance to where it needs to go. I am hoping that that will not be the case. But my assumption is that it will be. Oh, man. Get back to lucky, baby, happy mom. That's the end of it. I don't have any... That's a... I think I have an earthquake story. Lucky, baby, happy mom. Love you long time. Um, let me see.

Yes, I do have a France 24 clip which explains a little bit more about the aid. This was the moment a skyscraper under construction came tumbling down in Bangkok. Dozens are thought to be trapped under the rubble. The 7.7 magnitude quake toppled a crane from the top of the building which collapsed in seconds. In these pictures, water from a rooftop swimming pool can be seen cascading over the side of a high rise. The tremor sent office workers pouring into the streets in search of safety.

The earthquake's epicentre was near Myanmar's second city, Mandalay, not long after it was followed by a 6.4 magnitude aftershock. In Myanmar, where the extent of the damage is starting to emerge, a state of emergency has been declared and the country's military rulers have made a rare appeal for aid. Lines of injured people were filmed waiting for hospital treatment... Hold on a second. I think ABC had the aid clip. Hold on.

A day after that destructive 7.7 magnitude earthquake rocked Southeast Asia, rescuers working around the clock to search for survivors still buried under the rubble. In Bangkok, this 34-storey building that was still under construction collapsing, sending people running for their lives. There was a lot of screaming and panicking which obviously made it a lot worse. Jack Brown's dash cam video capturing the moment. And it was just horrifying to see that destruction.

Drone footage shows the scope of the damage. Garrett Breer from Washington state was in a nearby mall with his wife when they witnessed the moment it crumbled. Immediately we were just covered with dust and debris and we couldn't see. And there were thousands of people just in panic running away from the building. The epicenter of the quake was in Mandalay, Myanmar, more than 600 miles from Bangkok. Buildings collapsed. Roads torn apart.

A media host in the war-torn country describing it as one of the strongest earthquakes in his lifetime. It's getting stronger and intense. So I got a realization, oh, the earthquake is really happening right now in Myanmar. Footage aired by Myanmar's state-run broadcaster shows the destruction of the historic Mandalay Palace in the country's second largest city. The situation in Mandalay is really bad right now. The clock tower near Mandalay Monastery collapsed and was damaged.

Rescue teams from China arriving to assist with search and rescue operations. India and Russia have also sent resources. President Trump has vowed to send aid. There you go. So what's the BBC guy talking about? There's aid. There's aid coming. It's not getting in. I think the BBC's got this correct. You know, the funny thing about that 600 miles? Yeah. It says there's only 450 miles to L .A. from here. Most of the quakes in California, typically... Yeah, you don't feel them, though, do you?

No, never. Never. That's what I was going to get to. But it wasn't a 7.4, whatever that is, by the way. We've had big quakes, not necessarily that big recently, but there's been quakes, I think the big one in San Francisco was 8.6 or something along those lines. But, of course, these numbers don't mean anything anymore, as you know. No, no. We don't know if it's Richter scale to the momentum scale. Now it's bull crap.

But the point is that, generally speaking, in California, where there's a lot of quakes, and most of the world, you have maybe a 90-mile distance where you can still feel the quake. It doesn't have the effect that it does where it took place, the epicenter, as they like to call it. But you can still feel it, and sometimes it can cause damage. 90 to 100 miles away. 600 miles away is unfathomable. That's crazy. It doesn't make any... I mean, it's like from...

It means the entire state of California, maybe if an L.A. quake took place, and half of Mexico would be affected. That's why I was asking if there's a known fault line there. I don't know of one. Well, that whole area looks like it's been affected by a lot of quakes. That's why it's all scattered, like some mass, if you look at it on the map. Somewhere there's a pot pong, ping pong ball joke in there, but I can't quite come up with it. What? Well, you've been to pot pong. Pot pong? Pot pong.

No, I've not been to pot pong. You've been to Bangkok. No, I've not been to Thailand. I've been to Vietnam. Oh. Oh, pot pong. Pot pong in Thailand is where there's a club, and there's tricks. There's tricks that women do with ping pong balls and lit cigarettes. Target practice part of it? Yeah, target practice. And smoke rings. And smoke rings, yes. I did a documentary there once. This is like the donkey act in Tijuana. We've actually talked about this on the show before many, many years ago.

Yes, I remember you doing something. You were aghast. Yes, I was aghast. Is it not pot pong? Pot pong. I think it was pot pong. It's a circus act. Go to Turkey. Pew, pew. I'm going to get my Turkey updated. I'm going to get back to BBC and do some international stuff. Because this is going on. This Turkey thing is non-trivial. And here's what I want you to listen for. The people are – they threw this guy in jail. This is a political – this is what they try to do to Trump.

And the people are protesting the end of democracy because they put the guy in jail. When Trump – when they tried to put Trump in jail, I didn't see anybody protesting the threat to democracy. They only called Trump the threat to democracy. It's like reverse. Well, it's because the people weren't pissed off enough here. We have it too good. Turkey – I mean, the lira is not worth the paper it's printed on almost. I mean, there's real economic repercussions.

Erdogan's big mistake was his economic policies. Whoopsie. Hundreds of thousands of Turkish pro-democracy protesters gathered in Istanbul today in support of the city's jailed mayor, Ekrem İmamoğlu. The rally was called by Turkey's main opposition party, the CHP, and that's the party that's nominated Mr. İmamoğlu as its presidential candidate. Well, the BBC's senior international correspondent, Paula Gerin, was at the protest today. So, what was it like? It was quite a festive atmosphere.

There were a lot of people of all different ages. We saw family groups, some people with young children, children still in prams. We saw some older people who were moving with some difficulty. One or two people had even brought a family dog. There were lots of people who were carrying posters of the jailed mayor. And this was a daylight rally in a bright, sunny day. So, quite a different atmosphere to the rallies earlier this week, the nighttime rallies that we reported on on Monday and Tuesday.

But the demands were very much the same. People told us they were coming to demand the release of the mayor. They said they would keep protesting until that happens. Well, that could be a very long time. In reality, he could be in jail for several years. Many said that they had come to defend freedom of speech, human rights. One young man who was there with his brother told us that he had come to defend democracy before it was too late.

He said, if we stand by and don't act, then we will lose everything. And there was a consistent message again from the opposition leader saying that, accusing the government of trying to intimidate the young people. He spoke of the large numbers of young people who had been arrested at the demonstrations. He said this was an attempt to try and silence them, to create fear. But he said it wouldn't work. Now, two questions. Maybe they're in your next two clips.

One, does the BBC pronounce Turkey as Turkey, eh? No, they don't. You've pointed this out before. And the other one, do we actually know if the accusations against this guy are true? Nobody goes into it. Why not? It's just accusations. And it's like, well, OK, what did he do? It seems unlikely to be true. Yeah. All right. Protests have been going on for 10 days now, ever since Mr. Imamoglu's arrest.

And they've been met with a repressive government response that's been sharply condemned by rights groups. Our senior international correspondent, Orla Gerin, is in Istanbul for us. It was certainly a massive demonstration. And you got that sense when you arrived because it took us a very long time to enter the plaza where the rally was being held because there were simply so many people trying to get through the entrances.

And worth pointing out, I saw something today I have not seen before at a demonstration. There was a long line of what appeared to us to be closed-circuit TV cameras. And these were trained on every entrance. So it seemed to us as if the faces of all of those who were coming through to attend the protest were actually being recorded by the authorities, presumably for use in the future to identify people who've been at the demonstrations. The demands were very consistent.

The same kind of message we heard earlier during the week on Monday and Tuesday at the large nighttime demonstrations. People were calling for the freeing of the mayor, saying they would keep protesting as long as it would take to get him out of jail. Now, that could mean a very long fight. The reality is he could be in prison for several years. People were demanding freedom of expression. People were demanding protection for human rights.

One young man said to us, look, I've come to try to defend democracy here before it's just too late. This is filler. So they have this, the idea of having all these cameras makes sense. You have to take, the key to success here is you have to paste on a couple of fake eyeballs on your forehead. That's the key to success. Also for job interviews, I'm told. It's very, it's the key to success. Some fake, you can do stuff to your face that would be, that would confuse the AI system.

The BBC is giving us nothing. They're just doing color commentary. There's no depth to this reporting. That's a good point. Here's the last of it. You mentioned there were CCTV cameras there. And as we know, the Turkish authority have already been cracking down on protesters and journalists in recent days. Can you give us an update on that? Oh, they're talking about themselves. Oh, OK. Yes, it's very dangerous for us. We can't go into Bangkok. It's very into Myanmar. It's very dangerous.

We can't do it. It's dangerous. We're in Turkey. Turkeyye. It's so dangerous. They never say Turkeyye. Let's get this straight. Well, there's certainly a great deal of fear. And we heard that from demonstrators today. Several people said they were afraid of being arrested. Some told us they had friends who had been picked up in these dawn raids that have been going on over the last 10 days.

The official figure from the Interior Ministry now is that 1,900 people have been detained just in the past 10 days. We know that among those there are seven journalists. And we've had the first indictment handed down by public prosecutors here against some of those who were arrested. And all of these people arrested at the protests. And the prosecutor is asking for jail terms of between six months and three years.

Now, press freedom groups and media organizations here are pointing out that among the journalists arrested were people who were simply doing their job. There were photographers who were taking photographs that have been seen around the world and become famous around the world. And human rights organizations are saying that the legitimate right to freedom of expression to gather peacefully to protest against the government's policies.

There is a major attempt here now, they say, to stifle those rights and those freedoms. And it didn't begin 10 days ago with the arrest of Ekrem Imamoglu. It has certainly been a pattern that we've observed here over many years now. More nothing. This is a regime change. I suspect that we were behind it. Oh, OK. That would make sense because I've been I've had my quad view on 24-7. And there's not there's not even a story that we're not even running a story about this.

They're still talking Signal Gate. I know they are. I know you're right. There has not been one single story on American media about this. And this has been going on for 10 days and is major. Yeah. And it's a NATO member, I might point out. It's not just some fly by night operation. Right. It's a NATO member. Also responsible for the mess in Syria. Yeah, this is this is they're out to get this guy. And where's the where's the Gulen movement?

Are they are we know their leader died, but they didn't just dissolve. I mean, did anything happen with them? No, no reporting on no reporting. Well, meanwhile, that's the M5M. Now, the T5M, which is so M5M is mainstream media. T5M is the truth stream media. Very annoyed that come up. I just made it up. Very annoyed this weekend because at least 15 people are saying there's something here. This is going on. You got to check this out.

So what I'm going to tell you, even Tina's like, oh, there's some going on with house and habit. What house inhabit house? You don't know who a house inhabit is. House inhabit, not in a inhabit, but inhabit, like inhabit a house, house, inhabit, house, inhabit, house, inhabit. This was a mommy blogger who who became very successful as a. So we have. So this is about a mommy blogger. It gets worse. Because how can it get worse?

And Tina would often she reads, you know, stuff like conservative treehouse and house inhabit. I don't know any of this. Well, that's I never heard of conservative treehouse. That's why there's two of us. Oh, you don't know Sundance from from conservative treehouse. No, I don't know Sundance either. Well, I do. And I'm listening to the BBC World Service. And now we switch over to mommy blogger house inhabit on the BBC World Service. But this is Tina's beat, because I can't.

By the way, that's by the way, I should compliment you. That does sound great. Thank you. Thank you. I know you've heard of custom programmed. It sounds like an old shortwave radio announcer. Well, I used to when I was growing up, my my parents, they would have one of those alarm clock radios. And and so my dad would have this thing at volume 10 because my parents could never get up.

Because I had to be at the bus stop at ten past seven to take the bus to then get on my hidden bike to go to school. Oh, yes, it was rough. And that thing would go on and it's seven o'clock. And it's just blasting the news. So it's a trauma from my youth. Yes. Anyway, so. So now I have to go watch 20 minutes of Ian Carroll. Now, you know who that is? No. Yeah, you do. He's the guy on X with the long hair, with a hoodie. And he's always talking like, I don't know.

He's always got the green screen behind him. I like these guys. They all have style. Looks suspicious. And then so he goes on for 20 minutes talking about Candace Owens. Oh, Candace Owens, Candace Owens. OK, so then I have to go watch Candace Owens for an hour. And it's and I'm like, what is going on here? Basically, they keep talking about a blackmail scandal, a blackmail scandal.

And that House Inhabit, the mommy blogger, has teamed up with that horrible woman from, was it New Yorker magazine, who supposedly had a sexting scandal with RFK. And now, well, the Maha movement is under threat and RFK can't do anything because he's being blackmailed, blackmailed, blackmailed. And who is he being blackmailed by? Come on, John, you know the answer. Answer the question. Go. Soros. Israel. No, of course it's Israel. Oh, Israel. OK, not Soros. Yes, it's Israel.

That makes nothing but sense on the surface. And, you know, he's always been a Zionist and he's always been. The Kennedys. Yeah, the Kennedys, big Zionist. And he's always been in for Rabbi Shmuley. And I'm just saying, you know. And that's what people are concerned with here in America. Rabbi Shmuley? Long story, brother. Long story.

Yes, because you know that that's why they don't release the Epstein files is because then we find out that the entire U.S. government is being blackmailed by the Mossad. Hello, where you been? That makes nothing but sense. You need to read the Mommy Blogger. You've got to understand these things. I've been listening to the BBC. But I think there has been a concerted effort. And, you know, to me it's all spiritual. There's dark forces. There's good and evil. Yeah, okay. I'm just telling you.

Huh? Look. Skip ahead. We know there's dark forces. Don't do that to me. Well, you told me I could. What do you do? Now you tell me I can't? No, but you skip ahead is just rude. Skip ahead is rude. You told me I could. I didn't tell you you could go off camera. You did. Off camera? Where's the camera? Off camera. You said I could do that. Now you're calling me out. No. Scammer. You can call me out. You did that on purpose to give me grief. No, you can call me. Okay, Kara, but go ahead.

You can call me out, but you can't just say skip ahead. That's not nice. I think skip ahead's pretty cool. And I think you'll agree with me on this. I believe there is a concerted effort to go after influencers, podcasters, mommy bloggers, et cetera, to make them very fearful to be called out as a Zionist, a Jew lover, whatever. They call you that all the time. I don't see you. You're not shaking in your boots. But that's because we don't rely on clicks. We don't rely on views.

We rely on people who care about what we're talking about. This is a modern version of cancel culture is what you're saying. It's almost reverse. It's audience capture is what it is. And so they're deathly afraid to be running. See, no one cares about us. No one knows about us. That's true. Only the people who listen. No one else knows. Only our dedicated million plus audience, but nobody cares about them either except that they're all big shots. It's amazing. Well, there you go.

But we'll never matter in mainstream culture. We just don't matter. Joe Rogan doesn't have me on and say, man, that No Agenda show is the best thing ever. No. He doesn't. I don't think he's listened to the show once. You invented podcasting. You used to have long hair. But that's my point. These jamokes, they're all dependent, the T5M, they're all dependent upon clicks and views and algos and outrage. They are literally talking about each other. And that rises. I know. We both noticed this.

Yes. Oh, Tim Pool's going to talk to Candace Owens, who's going to talk to Steve Bannon, and she's going to be on the Bannon show, and then Bannon's going to be on. He's going to talk to Pool. Then there's the value attainment guys. You've got to get on there. Yes, yes. The value. It's the same little group. Yes. And throw in a little bit of Tucker Carlson. And Ian, he was even on Rogan. So Rogan's getting sucked into this. And I think Rogan's gotten a lot of pushback.

Because if you don't call out the genocide of Israel on Palestine, then you are clearly a Zionist. It doesn't matter what war or what death you call out. If it's not that one, then you're no good. So all this to say you should be happy with the best podcasting universe and enjoy it for the last three years and nine months. Because what are you going to do after that? Candace Owens. What happened to her? She's bigger than ever, I think. Because she's only talking about gossip and show business.

Blake Lively. Blake Lively. It all deteriorated. Blake Lively. That's all she talks about. She's a psycho. That would be our analysis. Hey, let's talk about Blake Lively. She's a psycho. All right, we're done. It's like everything deteriorates to celebrity chitchat. Always. Even Alex Jones is tired of it. If you can make Alex Jones tired of something like this, then you've gone very far. So it's just like, oh, man, stop already. Stop. So I have some thoughts on Canada and Carney. Oh, yes.

Okay, good. I'm interested in Canada and Carney. The appointed prime minister. And now I feel bad about not getting a clip when I heard it the first time, because I didn't think much of it. I said, I don't know, what is he talking about? Trump's sitting behind his desk. He's yakking away about turning Canada the 51st state. And somebody calls him and says, well, you know, there's just be a bunch of Democrats. They're going to all vote red. I don't know why you want that.

He says, well, I don't know. I think they're both parties up there are good. And sometimes he makes a comment. He literally says, I think the Liberal Party might be the better of the two parties. Oh, okay. Trump says the Liberal Party might be better to. Meanwhile, he keeps goading Canada. Yeah. And he and. You know, threatening them with this and that and the other. And it's turned the Liberal Party into a popular party. All of a sudden. It did. I mean, yes, it did. It did.

And now I'm beginning to think this was intentional. Hmm. And let's listen to these. I got three clips. This is the start with this. This is Trump. Carney. Carney. Tariffs. NHK. U.S. President Donald Trump says he'll slap additional tariffs of 25% on imported cars from April 3rd. One country significantly affected is Canada. Its new prime minister, Mark Carney, stressed at a news conference Thursday he will hit back.

We will fight the U.S. tariffs with retaliatory trade actions of our own that will have maximum impact in the United States and minimum impacts here in Canada. Carney said Trump's team requested a phone call and he plans to pick up soon. Meanwhile, Trump took to social media in the middle of the night to lay down a warning to Canada and the EU. He told them not to work together against the U.S. or even heftier duties are on the way.

Trump hopes to boost car production in America through import taxes. But if the U.S. and other countries start a tit-for-tat tariff war, the global economy looks bound to suffer. Interesting that it's April 3rd. I mean, April 2nd is Liberation Day. What are we doing on April 3rd? This is interesting. I don't know why this is either. I don't get that. But this whole idea that this might be a setup, a plan, a scheme.

And the reason I'm starting to think this way is because, first of all, we're not moaning and groaning about Carney never getting one single vote for anything. We're not talking about, oh, he's not elected, he's never done anything. Carney was brought in from the bank. Yes. He is a literal banker. He's a literal banker. He's the head of the Bank of England. And then he was the head of the Bank of Canada.

And the Liberal Party kicked Trudeau out, who quit, kind of quit, but he was writing on the wall. Well, we knew there was a blackmail scandal going on. Well, there's something going on. And so they bring Carney in. And so Carney's now running the whole place. And nobody's making mention of the fact that this guy, why? Why did they put this banker in charge? And why, all of a sudden, is the Liberal Party becoming popular again? He's off the radar. You don't even hear from him anymore.

There's a bunch of studies. Oh, no, the Liberals are going to win because they're going to have a snap election now at the end of April, April 28th, I believe. And so the snap election, you do these things, you can do this in a parliamentary system when you think that you can kick ass. Right, that's what you do. Sometimes it doesn't work out, but most of the time it does. You do a snap, a snapper. Snap election. And then you can take over the place.

And so they, so Trump is promoting this 51st state thing and throwing, he's getting Canada, Canadians pissed off. And, and Carney, and Carney is, we're going to fight for our country. We're not going to take it. He's Mr. Strongman. It's like a strong man against strong man. I believe because, and I believe this, and I only get this from memes. You know, you have to get the information where you get it. You don't know house inhabit. I can't believe it. You know, Pepe. Pepe the frog.

Yeah. You know, Pepe the frog. Yeah, of course I do. There are memes after memes after memes saying don't pass this around, but Carney spent a lot of time on Epstein Island. No. Yeah. Yeah. There it is. We're back. We have our own little version of it. Nice. So I think Carney's got, they got the goods on him. Oh, Epstein files going to drop after he, after the snap election. Well, not necessarily or before or never or never because you want to hold him. Yeah. It's the Bunsen burner.

So this is, this is the leverage we have over kind of, this is why Trump was going on about how the liberal liberals are. Okay. This is a great gambit. Hey, Mark, Mark, Mark, Mark, Mark Carney. What's that in your mouth? What's that in your mouth? It's total. And then you start, so you get these next two clips and it kind of like, is this all part of some grand scheme? Let's play. This will be set up. Adam Chapnick, a professor of defense studies at Canadian Forces College.

Since Carney is taking a hard line against Trump on the back of rising patriotism among his compatriots. President Trump's threats to make Canada the 51st state have unleashed a wave of nationalism and patriotism in Canada that we haven't seen in years, if not decades in Canada, we're normally polite and relatively quiet.

In this case, however, it is a threat to our very being and it's brought now to pride that I think has always been there, but we don't, we aren't inclined to show it in the same way as some other countries do. And in this case, whether you lean politically to the right or to the left, everyone seems to agree that we are proud to be Canadian. We don't want to be citizens of any other country.

As a result of Carney's continued harsh comments about the Trump, the ruling party's support rate has recovered rapidly. In a poll of polls by CBC News this week, the liberals were more popular than the opposition conservatives led by Pierre Poliev. Chapnick suggests the election offers a chance for whoever is Canada's next leader to turn the page with the Trump administration. I am liking this theory of yours, John. I'm liking it too. Here we go with this last clip.

This was the kind of, there's some other kicker information in here, which may or may not have something to do with the scheme. Canada spends less than one and a half of its GDP on defense, something Trump has strongly criticized. It seems highly likely Canada will sharply hike its military budget. I think Canadians are united in understanding that we have to commit more to defense and we have to spend more on national defense.

Both political parties are promising increases to the defense budget. Whether they are big enough to satisfy the United States is not yet clear, but I can virtually promise you that Canada will be spending significantly more on defense over the next five, 10, 15 years. Even so, if relations with the U.S. remain poor, Canada will seek to strengthen relations with European allies and other countries.

From a Canadian point of view, Canada's national interests are best served when we work with allies. So in some ways the challenges with the United States might actually bring us closer to our European and Asian allies because we will need more friends more than we ever had in the past. I think that much of Europe is responding the same way, that Europe has to get more serious about its security because it might not be able to rely on the United States in the near future.

So this isn't ideal, not the ideal situation, but if something good can come out of it by closer cooperation amongst like-minded allies in the West, that would be a great thing. So if I understand what you're saying, the real win here is our manufacturing base in the United States is going to grow significantly because Europe has nowhere to buy all this, all this war stuff for at least the next couple of years. Canada has nowhere to buy it.

Meanwhile, everybody's ramping up their money and we're going to take it. Yeah, exactly. We should, uh, we're like North Korea, South Korea here. We should, uh, we should drop, uh, American flags and Kid Rock CDs over, uh, over Ottawa. We need to help them out. Well, there was another, there was another little extra bit, uh, on Truth Social. The president posted, I just played a round of golf with Alexander Stubb, president of Finland. And it turns out he's a very good player.

We won the men's member guest golf tournament at, uh, the Trump International Golf Club in Palm Beach County. And, um, I look forward to strengthening the partnership between the United States and Finland. And that includes the purchase and development of a large number of badly needed icebreakers and beautiful ships. I hear, uh, now that of course is on Russia's border. Maybe this whole I'm pissed off at Putin. Maybe that whole thing is to prolong things a little bit.

Let's let's keep the money train going here. That pissed off at Putin thing could be, this could be a scheme could be between him and Putin. Yes. Well, the whole, the whole thing that Putin is saying, this whole thing we're watching theater. Yes. This is everything that Canada 51st state, uh, this, the late letting this Carney guy who's not even, you know, this crazy guy who's never gotten a vote in his life, uh, run Canada.

And then we're all be, we're kind of like pushing Canada to get pissed off. They get so damn mad that they buy stuff from us. Uh, the whole thing is ridiculous. Well, let, let, let me bring in, uh, in Putin and Russia and, uh, and Ukraine into this. Uh, this is from, um, uh, where is this? This is, uh, I think first post and moving to the war in Europe, Russian president, Vladimir like that, the war in Europe. Now it's just, it's not Ukraine. It's the war in Europe. People.

It's just the war in Europe. And moving to the war in Europe, Russian president Vladimir Putin has proposed placing Ukraine under temporary UN control to pave the way for new elections and key peace agreements, claiming that president Volodymyr Zelensky's leadership lacks legitimacy. Putin insisted bringing in a third party to be a viable government that quote unquote, enjoys the people's trust.

In principle, of course it would be possible under the auspices of the UN with the United States, even with European countries and of course with our partners and friends to discuss the possibility of introducing temporary administration in Ukraine for what in order to hold democratic elections, in order to bring to power a viable government that enjoys the people's trust and then begin negotiations with it on a peace treaty. However, the Russian leader's proposal has been met with skepticism.

The white house national security council emphasized that Ukraine's governance is determined by its constitution and its people. There has been no immediate comment from Ukraine. However, president Zelensky has repeatedly rejected any notion, questioning his legitimacy and he insists that elections are impossible under martial law, which he imposed in response to Russia's invasion back in 2022.

You know, the concept, the idea that this is we're watching all theater is highly possible and probably very likely if you add one more bid in, remember we have to flood the world with American stable coin with dollars. I'm a dollar dominance through stable coin. You can't get around it. That is now being said by the president, by the secretary of the treasury flood the world with stable coin. This is from the defense and aerospace podcast.

All the European union members were just advised to stock 72 hours worth of food and shortwave radio and all this type of thing because of potential catastrophic events to come, including war. They're getting quite serious here. I think they are beyond now the insults that's coming their way left and right. They are absolutely moving ahead in terms of trying to figure out the European defense without the United States helping Ukraine without the United States.

And so they are putting some meat to those bones with the idea that not only is it important for European security that Ukraine is protected, but that this is something that they hope will buy themselves a seat at the table is the fact that there are not going to be sanctions lifted on Russia, like Swift, which is one of the demands that Russia has levied on everyone if they're going to agree to this, this, a black sea and energy infrastructure ceasefire.

But to do that, to lift Swift and to assist in terms of the agricultural trade and banking resources that the Russians are asking for the, you, you, the Europeans have got to be part of that. It's new. Swift has done out of Brussels. It's not done out of Washington. There is a lot happening here and there isn't this is us with us or not anymore. If the assumption is that the U.S. has walked away every day, something happens to make them feel that and to know that.

And so they're beginning to act along those lines. There is an energy here and a direction here and a drive here and an anger here that I haven't seen ever. And so it's, it's moving. I don't see it turning around anytime soon. So you freak the people out like you better get your shortwave radios and your tuna fish can and a flashlight because you know, Putin can strike at any minute. And so you've got to give us your money.

We need to take your money because it is in effect, taking the people's money in advance by borrowing and carving out 150 billion right off the spot and giving that to the contractors, the military contractors, which for the foreseeable future is us. And then what you want to, they control Swift. I didn't realize that Brussels controls Swift. Well, that's great. Here's the meet the new Swift. It's called stable coin. It's a beautiful stable coin and you can trade that. It's its own networks.

It can trade on any network, on any blockchain, any layer to a level two system. This is a, this could be a very big game, big theater. Something's up. Well, yeah, I think we're a little, little deeper than something's up and these pieces are coming together. I'm not sure how, now I'm not sure how Finland fits in, but then out of the blue, out of the blue, Afghanistan pops up. Did you catch this? Yeah. This is the, uh, the minister of foreign affairs, Abdul Kahar Balkik. Abdul Kahar Balkik.

Thank you so much. This is on CBS. This is a legitimate CIA broadcast systems. Abdul Kahar Balkik. Thank you so much for speaking to us. The Taliban has been clear that it wants a new chapter with the U.S. What is a new chapter? It's a new chapter means that we end the, we close the old chapter of 20 years of, uh, warfare of being adversaries and looking forward to the future. The common goal of a stable and prosperous Afghanistan for the benefit of the people of Afghanistan.

And we believe that having an Afghanistan that is integrated, uh, that is prosperous, that is stable is also in the interest of the United States of America. So now the Taliban pops up and says, Hey baby, want to, want to talk deal? No deal. Well, you got an idea. I got an idea. What do you got on your side of the table? What do I get on my side of the table? But as you know, president Trump is unlike other presidents and wants to make a deal. And the one he's outlined is pretty clear.

Give us back our military hardware worth billions of dollars. And we will unfreeze these assets, which rightfully belong to Afghanistan. Will the Taliban take that deal? With regards to the assets of the central bank of Afghanistan, just as, as the title says, they're the assets of the central bank of Afghanistan. They're not the assets of my government or any other administrations, uh, that have, uh, governed Afghanistan previously.

These are the assets of the people of Afghanistan and the state of Afghanistan. They have been withheld, uh, wrongfully, uh, illegitimately and unlawfully, and they need to be released without any conditions. Okay. So this doesn't sound like it's about the money at all. I mean, first of all, what are we real there's nothing they've already gotten rid. They sold everything. They crashed all the helicopters. The planes are no good. All that.

They give away the pickup trucks are scattered all over the country, all over the world. And then, and then the asset, the frozen assets, it's a whopping get ready for it. 17 and a half billion dollars. That's an Elon Musk couch. Now that's not a problem. So there's something going on here. And again, is Afghanistan, what country do they border on Pakistan? Nice. India. I think maybe China. Yeah. I'm thinking one of those.

It's clear that Taliban wants to reset with the U S despite this 20 year history of pretty brutal warfare. President Trump made a deal with the Taliban, which ultimately saw the end of America's longest war. And indeed the withdrawal of us forces. It's all done has been in power ever since. And now Mr. Trump is back in office. Now he said that what he wants to see. Whoa, that was kind of, that was interesting. I missed it. Well, they made it sound like Trump did the withdrawal. Thank you.

really? Yeah. Listen again. All bond has been in power ever since. And now Mr. Trump is back in office. Wait, let me play the, you got to hear the full bit from here. There was president Trump made a deal with the Taliban, which ultimately saw the end of America's longest war. And indeed the withdrawal of us forces. It's all done has been in power ever since. And now Mr. Trump is back in office.

Now he said that what he wants to see, at least initially, is the return of billions of dollars worth of us military equipment and hardware back to the us. In exchange, he will consider unfreezing foreign currency reserves that president Biden froze after the withdrawal. Is that a deal that the Taliban is willing to take?

Currently the best way to engage is through normal diplomatic means, engage, talk, find common spaces that secures the interests of both countries and that addresses the common concerns. Now. So Afghanistan borders on all the stands Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Pakistan, China. Yeah. Most importantly, Iran. Yes. That would be, that would be the most important one. And so this is, this is a part of, of the show. I think we need to have an, it's just called the show. This is a show.

This is not all of a sudden. The Taliban goes, Hey, Trump, you know, you know, you kill our guys, but yeah, you know, let's do a deal. Deal. No deal. There's a lot going on here that your M five M is not exploring signal gate. Mommy bloggers. Oh, actually, um, what I have, I had, uh, what did I have? I had a signal gate clip here. Yes. Brennan. Brennan lets it slip who he's really. Yeah. Yeah. Brennan's back with Katie. Who has two moms. One mom is a dude in a dress.

Um, if you were the CIA director and you were included on a, a signal message chain, I know it didn't exist when you were CIA director, but something of that light, would you have, she say Chan? Let me say chain. I think a, a signal message chain. I know it didn't exist when you were CIA director, but something of that, like, would you have spoken up, um, and said, Hey, listen, we shouldn't be having this conversation here.

I know John Radcliffe has said that he didn't release any classified information on that chain. He's trying to absolve himself from any wrongdoing, but did he have a duty to speak up? Well, I think it's certainly, there would have been, should have been questions raised when Mike Walsh informed the group that there was going to be this signal discussion at the principals level. He was the one who put together this communication chat forum. He was one who's agenda.

So it's the national security advisor who chairs the principals committee meeting, which this was a virtual committee meeting. And so there should have been questions raised from the very beginning. Well, wait a minute. This is a pending military operation. Why are we going to be doing this on signal? So it should have been redirected early on to, into classified systems and networks. So yeah, this is something that in my experience, we never would have done.

Again, sometimes someone will pick up a phone because you have to convey some type of message to somebody. And the only way you have to do it is with some type of unclassified system, but you do it cryptically, you do it in a manner that's not going to reveal the operational details. And despite what secretary Hickson says, there were operational details included in that chat. So it sounds like Brennan's going after Waltz. They're all going after Waltz. And now the latest is this guy Wong.

The Wong guy. Yeah. Burl Lafong. But that's, that's all Laura Loomer posts about all day long. I've already solved it. Yeah. Laura Loomer. big news coming. but she picks up some pretty funny stuff. She's got this. And the connection of course is a guilt by association, which is this Wong character who is Waltz's undersecretary, I guess. It was married to a woman, another Chinese, Chinese American who went after the J sixers. Thus. Oh, all right. Oh, there you go. Oh, there's a J sixer. Oh man.

That's what a quagmire. Oh boy. Well then allow me to bring in Jesse waters. That's right. I'm doing it. I can't. Oh, okay. Hold on a second. Let me make a note. Make a note, make a note. I figured this is the three for one. It means I could do three for the one. What, what in what universe do you get three for one of anything? You, you, you promised me off camera off camera. We should stream cameras.

Yeah, man, we should do YouTube live when we do this show, we should stream it on X. Uh, so this is the latest in the, uh, in the JFK files, which went away. By the way, I'm not going to interrupt. Now that you mentioned streaming a live video on X, you mentioned earlier in the show how we're like not in this group of people that are changing, you know, the value tainment guy interviewing Tucker, who was interviewing Megan, Megan, Megan, Megan, Megan, big circle jerk. They're all video.

That's why. Well, praise God. You imagine we, I'll give you that one. We have to do video. Hey, what was it? Someone had a good nickname for us. It was, uh, tick and twitch or something. Gone is buzz, uh, crackpot and buzzkill. No people, we're not going to do that. All right. So this is, uh, this is the latest twist in the JFK files, which just went away within days within days. I tell you all this big talk, the Epstein files, the JFK files, and now we learned this.

I would like to actually tell the American people. It was made aware to me this evening that NBC actually has a video. That's never been seen before. We're actually going to be a set, sending a letter requesting that from NBC because it allegedly shows Oswalt, um, near the vehicle when the assassination took place, which means that he couldn't have been the shooter.

So again, we're tracking down all this information, but look, there's even a CIA document that came out that Mr. Morley pointed out that actually said that the CIA never, never bought the lone gunman theory. And so I think the American people had an inclination as to what we are saying, but we never had the hard evidence until now. And so it's important to note that in a free and fair society, how could you operate or have an agency operating in the shadows?

And so kudos to president Trump, also director Radcliffe and Tulsi Gabbard for pushing for this transparency. It is going to be generational changing that they've done this. And we hope to bring forward legislation to, to ensure that this never happens again for future generations to come. This is very unclear to me. Did this information come out of the JFK files drop? This whole thing is a confused mess. That's bull. Whatever she said, oh, it's going to be generational.

It will never happen again. How do you prevent something from ever happening again when it's just illegal to begin with? I mean, what are they talking about? Well, apparently all of a sudden there's a picture of, of Oswald coincidentally next to the car. Hey, how you doing? I'm Oswald. It's film and Oliver stone had it too. You're saying NBC has been keeping this tape of Oswald under wraps. Correct.

In fact, uh, stone actually told us that he was showed this tape, uh, that it was a secondary copy and that he said that this could blow open the entire JFK, um, investigation. What I will also tell you though, Jesse is, he said that NBC has been very, very much so guarding this tape. And so I believe that that tape belongs to the American people. We are going to be sending a letter asking for that tape. And I would encourage everyone to ask and she's a Florida representative Luna.

Oh, this Luna is the bathing suit model. Oh, hold on a second. I mean, I didn't, is she a bathing suit model? She's the one that looks good in the bikini and they made a big fuss about it. Luna. She's kind of a Luna tick. Anna Paulina Luna. Yeah. She's the bathing suit girl. Is there, uh, let's see. I don't see any bathing suit. Well, just type in a band of plenty of Luna bathing suit. How about bikini, bikini, bikini? That's the same thing. Oh, Oh, back to the video tape.

We are going to be sending a letter asking for that tape. And I would encourage everyone to ask NBC to release that tape to the public. It's important, not just for our investigations, but so the American people know the truth as to what happened with John F. Kennedy. Newsflash. We're never going to know the truth. Newsflash people. Newsflash. Luna is also causing some trouble with, uh, with, uh, Johnson, the house speaker. She's trying to do something. And I can't remember exactly what it is.

She's somebody in the, in the troll room might know this, but she's making a big fuss about something. She wants it brought to the house floor or something and she can't do it without Johnson, but there's some bypass mechanism. She's working on Causing a stir. This is so this everything is a show.

Everything is a show right now But in my favorite was the save the spook operation over there at Columbia University So we know so SIPA, but what's the what is the was that school stand for school for international?

Political public International spies public administration spy school spy school Diversity graduates today tore up their diplomas to protest the school's cooperation with the Trump administration graduates of the School of International and Public Affairs Chanted free Palestine as they destroyed their sheepskins it was alumni day on campus the protests are in support of Mahmood Khalil the Columbia grad student and Protester now held by ICE agents and they also object

to the concessions made to curb protests on campus some protesters also calling for the dismissal of several Columbia University teachers and Administrators, so these are alums who came by tore up their sheepskins, which is like cardboard to me Yeah, it looked like cardboard paper And but they're all they're all former spook school students They didn't get a job in an agency and so now they're pissed off The whole thing could be a scam The world has gone crazy man. The world has gone crazy.

That's a good one. I didn't know that story Yeah, well with that I'd like to thank you for your courage saying the morning to you the man who put the C in his Chimes say hello to my friend on the other end the one the only mr. Moran Caring to my ship seat boots at the ground feeding the air subs in the water all the names of nights out there in the morning to the trolls 9992 thousand two hundred and ninety one.

Okay now you're low Yeah, we're a little low the last little The last ten show average percent low the last. Yeah, the last ten show average was 2569 But why is that is there something going on because donations were short? Yeah, donations are lousy Reversing support. I don't think people are in we're not talking enough. We're doing the same thing.

We always do it's a big mistake We make yeah, yeah, which is we don't talk about what everyone else is talking about as if it was something important Yeah, and in this case this Spiral gator. Yes. Yes, and we also don't have video. This is this we don't have well the video I don't think it's a crucial. I did have a it is they get us on value tainment They keep trying to get us on value tainment.

I'm trying to get you on no one's ever contacted me Well, I did have a thought about this as we're you know We we have said four more years and we're in that right now the final days the final days of final days I did have an exit strategy, which you're going to roll your eyes when I tell you this.

Okay, let me pre-roll pre-roll because I finally like oh and it was there was some other bullcrap award show the 50 -over-50 or something for podcasts blah blah Whatever it was and then I'm like there is here is an award show an award that only we can give this show And it's completely valid and will be Revalidated every year because I'm on the Rogan show it with you know with grace. I'm on once a year You have been on that show six times. I thought it was five, but it's six.

Yeah The punishing return are you ready? Are you ready? Yeah the Podfather Awards. Oh I like it. I knew you would because I'd roll my eyes you didn't What do you change your mind? Oh, I know you would know the fact that I preface it all you're gonna roll your eyes No, no, I knew you'd like it.

No the fact that I'm in on an award show That part of always been against but then I thought why don't I exploit this and there's people always on X yelling you idiot You nerd he's not the bad father Adam Curry's a bad father and I have proof and And and and I think it's it's possible No, I want to stop you right now.

I have been saying that we should be doing of awards for yes Okay, there's the eye roll, but I never considered the kind so podcast Oh, no, we never considered since it was you never once it's named after you you're in Look this is no time for ego John. There's no time for ego It can be no Ted Grouch awards just doesn't cut it. All right that we can do those later Ted Grouch awards will be great not to mention it, but here's the trick it has to be a gala.

It has to be a gala Or as I like as I like to say a gala. Yeah, America They always say gala. It has to be a gala. I think the Brits say gala, too There's no somebody says gala. Somebody says go. Well, we're gonna say gala And I think because he never shows up he never accepts an award I think if we have the the right award I can get Joe Rogan to come and and we can do it in his club How about that? You're liking it right?

Well, I like it except for the fact that I may have to travel You don't you just have to write stuff and just post memes You don't have to come if you don't want to if it's too much trouble or you have to come to come to the gala If it's too much trouble to come to our Podfather awards and we need to come up with categories, but they have to be funny fantastic categories Like they have to be good category.

Yeah, like best value team not joke about best value attainment Okay, well you give me some ideas How about longest podcast Win that one with no information Candice Owens ladies and gentlemen the Podfather award and we and what do we call him? Do we call him the potties? No, the potties That would be the nickname that we would Grail against people keep calling these two potties, but it sounds like pot, you know Yeah Yeah So it would be you how you can get an Oscar the potties is not beauty.

It's not a bad name You can get you can Oscar. It's part of the now. It used to be a trifecta, but it's the Oscar you get the Grammy Award Oh, so we need the per the per got So now you have a purse. Yeah, you need to add the Podfather award You are not complete unless you all and everyone has a podcast Yeah, they can all win all those actors, okay, we have best comedy podcast that's one category for sure Yeah, when you get some you get some hot you get Dana Carvey or somebody to come up?

No, no, we get and we get those libtards from the what is it? Jason what's-his-face? What's the libtard show the one that helped all the president Cal Jake on Jake Kyle He gets an award for sure. Oh, yeah, absolutely best all-in podcast Best best female podcaster and think about that. No, we don't want to do a sexist stuff. Yes, we do What are you talking about then best trans podcast? There's a hit yes, yes Yes, okay, well It's I just want you to think about it.

You know since I know I got I'm in but it's riding you well did categorization I think you you're already taking it too lightly. All right. Well, where's your ideas brainstorm? I What yeah, we're nothing but ideas about this for a decade. Well, then spout them off. What are we doing? First of all, you have to pay to enter.

Oh No, well that that's what all the all the podcast awards you have to pay did to enter No, okay, you don't pay real awards you don't pay to enter the Academy Awards You don't pay you have to be a member of the Academy or you don't We have an Academy you have to be a member. Well, maybe that's not a bad idea the Academy of podcasting That actually exists and it's a horrible leftist organization. We want no part of it. Really that you had the podcast Academy Wow, okay.

Well forget that no But how do we make money? Oh You want to make me that dude? I thought it was a promotional idea. The money-making is part of is about promotion for the show. Oh Okay, well value for value, oh boy, okay. Oh Man you just wanted to cash in on some done some yes all of a sudden Strategy can we get a sponsor? Collecting fees. Can we get this thing sponsored by?

Now you're talking square space can we get sponsored by Squarespace and you can do that and row underwriting Whatever you want to call it. Yes boner pills. We can do something. There's something in there for us Yeah, that would be fine with me. Okay, that's what I think is necessary to make the event work at all Yeah, because we have to have a budget Yeah, so you get a budget from the from the underwriter. We give it away for free I mean people get it for free.

They're just gonna have to You know Yeah, no, I can I can I can see that's not a problem fastest talker Boom, there's Ben Shapiro. He's oh, yeah, but then that's yeah Ben Shapiro, there's maybe one or that that girl that used to work for Ben Shapiro's operation She's who sounds and looks like Shapiro that girl. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, she she could win that What's saying?

I'm selling out Shoe on head needs an award Shoe on head Well, I I have I have come up with the concept it's up to you to take it over the finish. Yeah Well, we'll make it happen. Oh, yeah.

Sure. It's Jay's working on the website as we speak Well, she could be Getting pretty good at that Thank you to these trolls who are with us and contributing and nicely by the way, every troll gets free entry on the website Yeah, we should have the troll room just scrolling by during the the Podfather Awards Huh, do you do that? Yeah, just big screens. Are they just saying horrible things? Yeah Ben Shapiro comes up Zionist.

Yeah pig We could get them all I think it would be a hootenanny you do it in Austin everyone wants to come to Austin There's always a flight to Austin You do it in Joe's Club. I think I think I could get Joe to do it I think he would be okay with love Joe would do it Let the club do it then he wouldn't be a problem for him to accept an award. No, of course. He's there. Anyway Yes best comedy podcast. Boom. There he is He's done Well, it's not a comedy podcast best interview show.

It's listed under comedy, but yeah, he can be listening on anything He wants I'm not categorizing him. Anyway, so I don't watch that show and crack up Alex I'll expect a business plan by 3 p.m. You you're not getting anything by 3 p.m I Thank you very much trolls for being with us their troll room dot IO No agenda dot stream and of course in the modern podcast apps.

These are the ones you want to get The Podfather Awards will only be streamed live on the modern podcast apps, of course and NBC this fall You can get one of those at podcast apps calm and as you just heard We're about to sell out from our extremely successful model that we've been running for over 17 years value for value Although I do like the idea of just using the whole show as promotion the whole Podfather Awards is promotion for no agenda I think that's pretty good But then we would have

to kind of switch the video What? Yeah, we do video the awards can be videoed. Yes. Yes Yeah, what I'm doing the podcast video. No way. No, no way. It's not gonna happen You imagine it would be in that same circle jerk. Although Would let's think of all the podcasts we could be invited on. We finally get on value tainments You can get on any time today. No, that's not true. No, they don't want me. They don't like me there.

I can tell Why don't they like you you think I don't know But everyone's always saying get curry on get curry on and they they'll post on X who should we get in the book? Yes, who do you want to see curry? Curry? Curry? Curry? Curry? Devorah Devorah curry curry curry curry never Never it's totally valid. I'm also baffled that Tucker Carlson hasn't invited me Let's see you on Tucker. Yes, I do I'm an interesting guy.

I Think Beck go back to Beck Beck has got a better audience Yeah, but Beck wanted me to work for him and I kind of turned him down So that yes, you keep saying that but so what he's still like he still thinks you're his brother He'll be glad to put you on the show Pitch you again. I Gotta have an angle man. You got it. He's all it. Oh, he just did this whole thing on AI and Beck's like, you know, this is happening. This is the new God. Oh, he's all in on AI.

Oh, he's talks to AI Yeah, I was talking. Yes. He talks to AI Yeah, he really he really believes that it's the it's the new Gollum You know if you know the story of Gollum yeah Gollum mud Yeah, okay. Yeah the got the Gollum character Anyway value for value.

That's how we continue to roll for as long as we can it was definitely shorter today than than expected, but you're right, which probably because there's no video and And we're not talking about all the important stuff You know, we're not harping on that one thing like RFK jr.'s blackmail scandal Yeah, because it's all bullcrap we don't talk bullcrap that's the thing yeah, it's a problem They don't if they're not used to getting good material from us because we don't talk about Nonsense, I

met a cool guy yesterday in in Fredericksburg. I know yeah Saturday. Yeah He's gonna do with some work with me Some development work and and I said, well, how long he's 47 how long you've been listening says Oh, I've been listening almost from the beginning, but then I fell overboard for a long long time I didn't come back until 2018. Why'd you fall overboard says?

Well, you know I worked in aerospace at Space Force for 20 years and when you started talking crap about the moon landing I got upset and I stopped I Wow, I had no idea The people got mad about that and would rage quit That's interesting. Yeah. Yeah. Well Leo Laporte felt the same way. Yeah, he still does Time talent to treasure.

That's all we ask in return whatever value you receive from this program And I think we do deliver the goods we do give you value It's definitely not what you're getting anywhere else and maybe you look smart at a cocktail party around the water cooler or on the company Oh the Monday morning zoom meeting. This thing's this intellectual smart things. You can say and people will go Wow I guess you don't read home and habits. Do you?

and one of the Ways that we always enjoy is our artwork from our artists and these artists, you know the I've noticed the artists are Actually tricking us into believing that they're doing AI but they're not Just before we thank our artists for episode 1750 sir.

Shug who did flexible eyes on 1749 He said Thanks for the props and choosing one of my art pieces again just to confirm old-school jazzercise artwork was indeed my inspiration The listener involved in that original art was correct in her assessment I hope it gave her a smile but just so you know no AI at all in that one if I thought anything was AI was gonna be that one and So now I'm questioning Nico sign because he did a dynamite piece Which may and it may not be AI this

this could just be a well-done piece. It was the Liberty Juice I think that's the idea So we had a dinner table conversation because JC is an AI and talking about your complaint from the last show mm -hmm Which one is he could have? Sorry, which which complaint there's a lot of complaints. I have well the main complaint that you tried to get a I do some coding For you. Oh, yes big coding go coding. Mm-hmm, and he said that this is a known Problem with AI.

Oh that unless you know what you're doing to begin with In other words, you can code in the language and you're adept at it.

Hey, I can't do Jack All I can do is help you a little bit Mm -hmm, and I think is the same thing with these artists the guys who are really have an artistic temperament that use AI And I would put Darren O'Neill in that category They know how to prompt they have a sense of it and they and they have a sense of everything and that's artistic is Darren O'Neill for some unknown reason to us Very artsy guy And so and other artists a scare among is a good example There's others that know how to pray

scare among you can do He can do animation in AI to the point where it's attracted brunetti Yes I know and so we have it's the same thing if you if you do I I can do some AI stuff with the art but I can't do anything compared to I mean compared to what Darren can do because he's More of an artist than I am so and it's the same thing with coding so that was his comment Okay.

Well, so then then the the promise of AI is bullcrap is what you're saying So unless you can actually write a book AI won't be able to write a book for you Exactly, and if you can't do art a I can't do art for you Okay Now the exception of this may be comic strip blogger But chemistry blogger maybe is an artist in some way and he could and he just got pretty adept at using the prompts Because he has a I but art And he gets a I to do it, I mean that's a special he's a but

expert, okay That was kind of the point so it's an augmentation rather than okay origin originate augmentation not origination Oh, so is that really worth a hundred billion dollars per company then? Of course? No. Okay. Thank you Too late now. No, you wait and the data centers scams fall on her part So We thank who are we thinking again? We were saying go sign. He go sign.

Yes for his artwork there now we both liked Tante Neal's splash, but we kind of really wanted that for a title and It was I didn't think the art was that compelling you you really like Darren O'Neill's it freedom sap Well, yes, it way with the ultimate choice came between Liberty juice from Nico's I'm or freedom SAP From Darren O 'Neill and I even like the fact that he had a better can Description the taste of freedom 33 ounces versus Nico's I'm just had 12 ounces on there But you have

a problem with SAP. You just don't like SAP I thought SAP as a associative word and anyone who listens to no agenda shouldn't be seen as a SAP And I was gonna use it. That's take. Yeah far. Okay. Sorry And so I was thinking of using it when I could use for the newsletter because it's very attractive But then again, then I saw this little screaming Mimi thing by dr. Kelly Yeah, and I said that I just saw that image.

I don't know if that was a I or not, but it's just the screaming Liberal is I mean, I just say that I had to use that so I ended up using that by the way just on that on that idea of it being a tool so many people believe That they know how to write a song and they go into AI and then they say AI write a song They might give some lyrics or a snippet of lyrics and then they send it to me and say this is the best song ever It's always a country song I'd say 90% of all why is that

by the way that's I've heard I've noticed this too Because the least people in the world understand what a good country song is the most people will think oh, that's great That's my feeling behind it And the most people will know what a good hip-hop song is and and and it's all atrocious it's no good and people just because it's in tune and it rhymes and it comes up with a Chorus be like this song is the best This is actually killing Spotify.

Well the inverse Spotify is making tons of money There's you know hundreds of artists amazingly in Sweden Who are just flooding this so the whole business on Spotify is playlists. You have to get on a popular playlist That's that's how you get a hit and you can buy your position. It starts at five thousand dollars and these playlist makers They know what they're doing. They know how to make playlists And Spotify promotes the playlists. It's all incestuous.

Believe me So now Spotify has is promoting all these different play. Oh sleep at night a soft jazz piano jazz Classical and it's all a I generated muck and and because it's a I generated muck They take all the money from it. They don't have to give it to the To the music publishers anyone. Yeah And it's I I think it's going to be it's a very dark road.

They've taken by doing this now people are starting to notice Yeah, cuz it's our road to the bank No, yeah, we'll see Anyway was anything else we needed to mention I kind of like that. I like the boomer pills. It wasn't good enough for art By also Nikos I'm Nikos comic-strip bloggers Liberty Juice can I thought that was pretty good Yeah Didn't tickle my fancy. No, I didn't recommend it. You like signal trap Well, I said it was interesting.

But this the signal it had to be blue It had to look more like a sick. It was it was too obscure too obscure. Sir. Shug did that one? Anyway, thank you Nikos. I'm good work.

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No, I know I but I thought it was 200 point 1 point 2 point 3 point 4 point 5 it's real simple That's where you that's where you explain it Well, anyway, we have that not going to explain it people should listen to that episode. Yeah, I'll I think it's either 100 or 200. No 100 is when I quit. That's right. Oh, that's right You quit at 100 200 that we did this 200 point 5 200 point 5 is what everyone says 200 point 5. Yeah Okay, it's always right to begin. You are you're always right. I am.

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Oh And That ladies and gentlemen is the kind of comedy you can expect at the Podfather Awards at the mothership in Austin So, you know, there's a nut that I don't know who this guy's aware of what's going on, but Macron seems to be going nuts Yeah I've noticed that well, you know, I've got he's married to a dude. So that's part of the problem And Candace Owens is not letting up on it No, this is her main thing. Mm-hmm She also thinks Schumer's married to a dude.

Oh Wait, but has she said yet that mother Teresa was Fauci's mom and that she's a dude because that that is the best one I've heard No, I have not heard that way it's Exclusive right here on the show Let's play a couple of clips.

I got the France China climate crap from NHK Okay, let's do that China says it has agreed to bolster cooperation with France in maintaining multilateralism in global trade and Combating climate change the two sides met on Thursday in Beijing against the backdrop of Washington's America first policy Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi and his French counterpart Jean-Noel Barra issued a joint statement marking the 10th anniversary of the Paris Agreement on climate change the Responsibility of our

two countries is also to jointly propose Solutions to global challenges as we did ten years ago to contribute to the conclusion of the Paris climate agreement The two sides of China and Europe should insist on being mutually beneficial and win-win partners and open up new prospects for bilateral cooperation by properly resolving the specific problems that exist through Consultation in an apparent reference to Trump's decision to pull the u.s out of the Paris Accord the

statement says the regression of certain countries from scientific consensus and their withdrawal from Multilateral institutions will only strengthen our determination and actions Well, there's more money. You can spend don't I don't I recall that when China joined the Paris Accords that they said yeah, we're gonna do all this and that the other in 2035 Yeah, some more 20 30 or 20 35 and they said that's when it's gonna happen. And so what is the deal?

Did you get away with that forever this bullcrap that you're just oh, yeah, we're all in but in 2030 Yeah, because the no one cares because they're all in it for the money even Al Gore there's he's back again He's running around. Is it too late? Vice-president Gore. Well, no, it's never too late. No, I'd be out of a job. It was too late It's not too late.

But you know, it's a lot of damage has been done And so here's Macron going on and on about Ukraine now trying to set up shop French president Emmanuel Macron says a Franco British delegation will soon visit Ukraine to plan for the deployment of What are you called a reassurance force? the troops role Reassurance force I gotta write that down. What does that even mean?

I Have to mean anything Reassurance force Plan for the deployment of what he called a reassurance force The troops role would be to guarantee an eventual ceasefire with Russia Macron hosted the summit of leaders of about 30 nations and organizations in Paris on Thursday to discuss support for Ukraine Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky also attended Macron told reporters after a meeting the participants unanimously agreed The time was not right to lift sanctions on Moscow White House officials

said Tuesday Washington had agreed in separate talks with Moscow and Kyiv that safe Navigation will be insured in the Black Sea and the use of force would end in those waters But Russia has insisted some sanctions must be lifted before the agreement can take effect Speaking after the Paris summit Zelensky said Russian President Vladimir Putin is not ready for direct negotiations The Ukrainian leader added that he's ready for negotiations in any format Force Armies, no, it

would be a force reassure our maze reassurance This doesn't sound right reassurance of what a force We're gonna reassure that we have for I don't know reassurance It sounds like something Warren Buffett sells That's reassure our reassurance I came across a crazy ad that I'd like to share with you and it just Yeah, and I guess it comes on the heels of you know What is a producer who I donated too late for today's show send me a really long note Did you see that note come in by any chance?

I'm sorry. What a producer sent a really long note That came in too late for today's show. I didn't see it and it was about pharma advertising Yeah, and I'm gonna see if I can find it real quick Hmm the crux was Please stop talking about RFK Removing pharma advertising Why should we stop talking about because that's gonna kill my business. Oh Well, what's it got? We're not working for him.

Does he send us enough money that well, he's talking about this Get on that Linda Lou packing train Well, you know it says this is one of the biggest businesses it's so much money for people who are Advertising creatives That is it's going to it's going to kill their industry. What but that's just the advertising industry There's other things that need advertising. Well, no one wants to lose their job.

Let's understand that but well I know but why would you lose your job if you lose it's called losing an account Well, but it's the biggest accounts that the point of the the producers was the biggest account. There you go Now you're talking. It's the biggest accounts. Yeah, so you guys don't talk negative about coca-cola and Pepsi Which are other big accounts said we don't that's correct. We should you know that did you know there was a whole?

Influencer campaign for for for sugary drinks that a whole bunch of Right-wing influencers were on the money train for No, tell me about it.

Yeah. Yeah. Well another thing we missed out on because we're Because we're legit because we're legit there are people apologizing like oh, I'm sorry It was because you know, they're talking about taking sugary drinks off of snap And so then there's some genius in in sugary drink land, which could either be coca-cola or PepsiCo I know there's much more came up with an idea I know what we'll do we had a bunch of those mega people to to talk positive and say oh don't take that off snap It's good.

It's good for children And they got paid and they got paid and good money apparently Anyway, I think there's my my point would be I think there's plenty of room for Imagination and creativity in advertising have a listen imagine a toilet so striking it inspired a couture dress.

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from Kohler Discover the veil smart toilet and go behind the scenes of Kohler's partnership with creative director Laura Kim at Kohler calm I'm telling you when the runway model came down the runway. Did anyone try to jiggle her handle there? It is I was waiting for something That's very creative. How do we do an ad for a smart toilet, and now I want one of these a Smart toilet yeah, why not it has it has everybody's got one, but me. I don't have a smart toilet I'm Doug Horowitz has got one.

He's got a smart. He's got a couple of them They got what it what are these smart toilets do but when you walk in the bathroom the toilet opens up and greets you Anyway, wait does it look does it do like this you are being recorded.

Let's do one of those and not yet Kohler smart toilets really How come everyone oh, well I see what they're talking about this is some it looks like a box that you poop Exactly it's a box you It's Amazing this thing it's a square box with a seat and you poop in it, but it reminds me of haute couture Well to jiggle the handle no matter what yes I would like to get a report from you from Andrew Horowitz exactly what his as this toilet been discussed on dh I don't think

yeah, it's been discussed on the show, but I don't think this is the box You know it's a toilet well If you're gonna get a toilet you might as well get a designer toilet and that apparently is a square box It looks like yes. There's a square box with a hole in the top even the lid is square. It's called an outhouse To poop in then you go in the backyard, okay, I have a series of clips on in cells No, which became a topic conversation on one of the networks.

I remember it well And this is called black pill And I got this a bunch of clips and if you want to hear them and talk about this because I think this is bogus They make it sound as though. It's a club. We're going to a book now. It's just been published It's called black pill wait is this the BBC World Service.

I won't I won't do the jingle and it looks at the incel by which I mean involuntary celibates movement and draws on interviews with Movement around The movement should check out the new smart toilet from Kohler and world It's been written by Maeve Park And the idea is to help explain in cells and the culture that creates them and what they believe I spoke to Maeve Park earlier and asked first of all just to do a definition of terms as it were what does the title black pilled mean?

And how does she define the term incel the term black pills is the name of the ideology?

We're seeing subscribed to incels It's a nihilistic worldview with misogyny as well and the term incel literally means involuntary Celibate however the term is used within this group of people mostly congregating online who subscribed the beliefs of the black pill so they can believe in the nihilistic version of life or the misogynistic wrapped into one kind of ideological Worldview very bleak very much about men being suppressed and very much about if you're not attractive enough Your

hope in life is you don't really have a lot of hope in life. So kind of a fatalistic Catastrophic nihilistic worldview with misogyny very much attached into it as well. Okay. Hold on a second. So you have five clips from the BBC about black pill Yet they they can't fill three clips with any information about Turkey Turkey Turkey a they can't even pronounce it, right? I know I'm very familiar with black pill. This has been a term That's been around Really with all this.

Well, you should ask the kids at the table. They're all married I mean, I don't think any black pillars are around a lot. You have to have a black pillar in the family It seems to me. Well, there's this is a real thing I'd never really heard about how it was filled with misogyny though. That's that's an interesting take So I'm excited to hear the rest. Yeah. Well, I think I've heard that part. Hmm Cuz these guys, you know, they can't get a date.

They can't look a girl in the eye But it's black pill is not necessarily incel black pill as you see no future for the world and you're just According to this woman black pill is incels.

So age isn't part of the definition No age is not part of the definition in the online world for incels They actually tend to be in their mid 20s and they tend to kind of start around 19 and the oldest incels I've come across online would be in their mid 30s So there is a kind of a broad age group there as well And the basic idea is they've never found a girlfriend and they blame the world This is the second time this guy's done that and I don't know that it's

part of the British accent I never noticed this before but he did it the first clip. He's done it again. What do you do? He says I dear Oh, yeah, that's it. That's a very you know, that's a New England thing to my mom would say I dear what's the idea? So it is a derivative. It is a British thing. I dear if there's no are an idea But dear, but okay BBC also can't seem to say Turkey a so And the basic idea is they've never found a girlfriend and they they blame the world for that Yeah, basic idea.

Is that you that is true? Yes So they believe that because they haven't had any romantic partners or even gone on dates or had any success in that kind of arena That they feel that there's something either very much wrong with them or wrong with society And they're kind of taking that out in a very much a resentment build Ideology and a very kind of fatalistic manner as well and that can get violent.

It can get violent We have seen violence coming from this kind of ideology in this worldview and we've seen some mass shootings and mass homicide coming from it one of the earliest mass shootings wasn't the 2014 the Isla Vista Shooting in California.

It was carried out by a young man called Elliot Roger He was 21 at the time and he shot and killed six people including himself And then from that we've also seen other types of violence coming out of the worldview as well We've seen sexual harassment Stalking abuse abuse online and there has been a wide variety of harms coming out And then some of the violence that we're seeing is also the suicide as well Well, this is no laughing matter and there's a lot of data to back up this problem that

young men have a very hard time finding a Finding a mate just someone to date Mainly because yes, well, it would say what you said thing is mainly because because I have a mainly because well There's it's the problem is from two sides on the on the female side many young girls are only interested in a very Successful so they want influencers they want money. They want it.

They want if you got to have money You got a show cash you got a money and I'm generalizing but I think it's it's true in general on the young men side There's no place for them to go meet girls So it's only online and the only online experience they have is an overabundance of porn So when when they finally, you know meet or have a date all they can think about is porn And I was talking to the barista here at Java ranch nice girl She's Adam. I can't and you know, there's all young kids.

I can't find a man to date and I said well When you meet them this horrible, all they want is one thing and it's all like aggressive and it's just it's it's horrible So I think that's that's what's going on here. I don't think so. Okay I mean, I think that's that is the result of the real problem. Okay when I was a kid, here we go Yeah, here we go. Yes When I was getting the second grade the third grade the fourth grade in the first grade I think we were forced to learn different dances.

We had to dance with girls. Yes We were dancing at the cha-cha They would teach us the cha-cha-cha the rumba every stupid dance Imaginable and you had to dance and square dancing was also a big thing You had to learn how to do that And so by the time you're in the sixth grade you knew how to at least you know Step around and you were oh you're handling girls because you had to dance with girls.

You weren't dancing with guys And so and there was always the classes about half and half so you'd get a you know And you'd switch partners and you always you'd be very familiarized and then by the time we got to high school They had the sock hop which I bitch about and moan and groan about constantly is another old thing That's long gone And the reason for the sock hop was in the gym and he had to wear socks Because they didn't want to scratch up the gym floors the reason for

being socks But they all these dances and people would stand around and then they pick back. There was there was forced Socialization at the school level when you're a little kid that is disappeared that is causing all the rest of it Boomer update. Yeah Well, there was also something called cotillion That was more southern thing. I think cotillion. Yep. Same idea. I Think you are absolutely right now.

You have to add to that that the schools have become exactly the opposite Oh, oh, no, you know, you have to ask permission and you can't look at anyone and it's a toxic masculinity And the whole society, you're right society is screwed. You're right You're right. And so these boys they they they fall into a black hole of gaming and if they're unlucky they get they get hypno Hypnotized into into trans stuff Which which was covered on the show? And they go all goth and then they turn into women.

It's the whole thing. We're doomed people were doomed homeschool and get your dance on Yeah, the homeschooling doesn't do this the forced socialization quite like real school used to do but they don't do it anymore So you might as well homeschool. Let's go to clip three Now one of the striking things seeing your book was that the people you interviewed were UK This is where they were UK Canada USA, Australia, France, Germany. Is this a Western phenomenon?

It's not a Western phenomenon, but I was going I was researching the anglosphere in cell communities Which was an interesting finding to see that there were people who came from non English-speaking countries taking part in the English -speaking In cell communities. However, we have discovered that there are non English in cell communities There are French communities. There are Indian communities.

There are South Korean It spans the world and now we're seeing even some African communities coming up So it's not just a Western problem or a Western issue But we are seeing maybe the Western in cell communities being they're probably the older communities They have a lot more of the worldview established and they really resonate around the media messages of the West Mostly coming from an American kind of media culture, you know, it's not just Not just from your generation, but when I was

growing up at the The Dorps house as I grew up in a small village south of Amsterdam. We had a like a little community. What do you call that? Yeah, where the community comes together as a whole. What do you call it community?

I when I was a good back I would back to you back that up We had a boys girls club kind of thing on it was called the community center It was in a Newark and the community center would have these dances every Friday and Saturday When you're in grammar school, well what I had other situation there was the there would dancing with Force dancing because it was a socialization thing and I would say it's forced Yes force dancing it We never had in cells we didn't have the idea of somebody

living with their parents until they're in their 30s because they Can't get a date I mean This is all new and it has a lot to do with the lack of socialization as a young adult as a young No, and I didn't know young it a kid.

Well, I was going to add to that that we had once a year there was dance lessons and Everybody would sign up for dance lessons and you'd all go there and that was a version it wasn't school organized but it was village organized like It's China for dance lessons and everybody did it.

You didn't want to be the the schmuck that didn't go and no one could dance That's why I went to dance lessons and it was the same thing And of course, I didn't go to dance lessons and I became an inso But then I got on the radio and things changed You've been married three times. You're not an in cell Wow, you had to go there Okay, I was worried. So do you think this is one of those things that's happening because of the internet?

You know that these people like this have always existed, but they've been isolated and now they're not they're part of a group I would say yes, that is definitely true And that is why we're seeing kind of a community build around people who couldn't find community I often say that the incels online are the most exclusive club in a very strange way They're very clear about who is in cell who is not in cell and who would fit in their criteria However, there are all a bunch of people who did not

find community outside of these groups So in a strange way, they are the outsiders now building a group for themselves online however, as you said yes, there have always been people who have been left out ostracized and in cells not all of them would be misogynistic not all of them would be violent many of them are nihilistic very much self hating and would not take their vengeance or Resentment out on others but yes The internet has allowed for this kind of ideologies to spread

around and people who may not have found these ideologies before to find them And that's what we're seeing with the internet. You've used the term nihilistic quite a lot So, can you just talk us through that when you interview one of these young men?

How does that manifest itself that nihilism very much a feeling that nothing will ever work out for me that there is no Hope for me that I may as well drop out of society meaning if you're young dropping out of university Dropping out of school not attempting to find a job not leaving your house not going outside or having any conversations with anyone becoming very reclusive and Feeling like that is your kind of fate at a very young age, which is very difficult But

also very damaging for their life for their sense of well-being and I've met many people in their mid 30s who have gone through that in their early 20s and are now kind of seeing the impact of that where they have no Social circle they have no financial.

They have no ability to get a job a salary And so their their situation has become very bleak They can always and they can always become artists for the no agenda show Again we have that no explanation for any of this is just a phenomenon which is again, which is You're complaining about the BBC from the earlier clips, yeah, but it but you know, you didn't have to stretch it out for eight minutes I'm sorry, but we're gonna wrap it now. So you Complain later There's no complaining.

Let's hold hands and share a secret So it's a self-fulfilling prophecy in many way The many ways I'm very damaging for young people getting involved in that for that reason as well Always male or sometimes female in cells interestingly enough.

There are some women in cells There's a group called femme cells However, there are not as many of them and in cell the term in cell is only male so only men can call themselves in cells according to the communities and According to the people online who define themselves as in cell because the out group for in cells are women So the resentment is there around women and so that's why it's important for them to keep that in only men as well You've described that this is a sort of self-fulfilling

prophecy and people in their mid 30s can get into a very bad situation because they've Had this thinking in their 20s. Are there people who are in cells who get out of it? You know and they they find relationships and they move on.

Oh, yeah Well, that's always the hope and I speak about it in the book how a couple of the interviewees I met so I was interviewing them for over a year and During that time a couple of them found ways out of the ideology or out of their situation One of the best success stories was a man in his later 20s returning to university after initially dropping out in his early 30s in the UK and that has kind of given him a new lease in life a new goal a new feeling of self-esteem and He's having a good

time enjoying it and finding people through it as well So that was a success story in itself Other times some incels can just leave because they find potentially a partner or friendships But we have to be very careful about when we talk about whether a relationship is your way out A lot of incels will believe I will if I find a girlfriend I'll leave the ideology but the evidence is showing that sometimes when that happens the ideology doesn't go away you don't become less

misogynistic or less nihilistic just because you have a date or had a short-term relationship or Girlfriend that doesn't solve the problem Well, I think this is self-correcting. We're seeing it already. I mean, this is really a millennial problem Sorry, Jen's Jen.

Yeah, no millennial problem younger millennial problem the older Millennials were just close enough to Gen X that they kind of you know, they got a clue and I'm seeing Gen Z Gen Z is kind of rebelling against technology rebelling a bit against the phone stuff They're playing chess. They're going out. They're doing other things. They are getting together in groups I think it's self-correcting.

It just gives the BBC another opportunity to fill 10 minutes of airtime with direct direct I It might be self-correcting but the problem still exists at the schools are not doing their jobs I'm socializing the kids properly Oh there and until they start doing that which you're not gonna do the way they're going about things No, but the schools are complicit in transing children and putting odd books in the library and then highlighting it by putting right lock and key Yeah, the schools

are the problem always schools are the problem.

There it is And that's why we need to dissolve the part Department of Education Give it back to the states and Texas will be number one baby phone finger You know, Texas is one of the states along with a lot of the states that is like they always bitch about California doing this with the Texas California's a Johnny come lately when it comes to not telling the parents that your kids trans is going trans. Yeah Texas is one of those states really Yep. Yeah, well How does that work? I don't know.

I don't know. I did I was not aware. How do you get Jasmine Crockett? Good point. All right. I'll I need to add a new word to our Vocabulary as the Oxford Dictionary has added it so that means Beside saying Turkey a properly we now have a new one.

Let's talk because the English language is changing The folks behind the Oxford English Dictionary added dozens of new words to its pages this week The new entries include many of Spanish origin like Cubano Referring to anything Cuban from individuals to the famous sandwiches also in their slang phrases such as real talk Meaning honest and direct conversations and British slang like the word faffy as in overcomplicated and time-consuming faffy faffy Ffy faffy yes, I've never heard

that I use Cubano Coincidentally in the show today when you're talking about somebody a person of Cuban origin you call them a Cubano No, I was referring to the cigar cigar But faffy faffy. I've never heard this very new term It was new to me Sounds like they're just throwing it in for no good reason Well, it's amazing. You can say anything in public in the United Kingdom man. Did you hear about the whatsapp thing?

This was interesting Some parents got arrested for posting something in a private group on whatsapp Six police officers came to my house and arrested me why?

Because I've been talking about my daughter's school on a whatsapp group It was the morning of Wednesday the 29th of January about a quarter to 12 I was on a zoom call for a work project when on my zoom screen in the little window where I saw my own face I realized that two police officers were standing behind me another two police officers Were arresting my partner Rosalind in front of Francesca our three-year-old daughter They bundled us into the police cars and

took us off the custody at Stevenage Police Station Where we remain for the next 12 hours He arrested me on suspicion of harassment and malicious communications and was to do with a dispute with our daughter's primary school Which began with posts on a whatsapp group? Are you interested to hear what horrible things they did in the whatsapp group?

You know, this has been going on now for some some some time in England and it's discouraging And and you have to wonder you know about the mentality of the police who have or enforcing these laws They seem to be doing with some relish. Oh, yeah, I find disturbing They enjoy it Well the beats going after people with guns and zombie knives.

I mean, hey Might as well take the squad down and arrest these two parents on the 23rd of November 2023 the head teacher of my daughter's primary school announced he would retire But what seems strange to me was the board of governors decided immediately to appoint the deputy head as acting head Ten months later without even advertising the job.

So I made some inquiries I contacted the chair of governors in private and in good faith and asked her to explain what a Rationale was what was going to happen her response in my opinion was rather evasive So I asked again and I wrote to all the governors asking them to explain what was happening and why they decided to do that I posted that letter in a whatsapp group It's a private parents whatsapp group on that whatsapp group like most parents.

We chanted about a few things One thing we talked about on that group was a letter from the school Commanding all parents not to talk about the school on Facebook or social media or whatsapp groups We thought that was a bit off.

My partner Rosalind made a handful of vaguely spicy comments She referred to one school leader as a control freak She said the chair of governors didn't know much about anything Out of the blue on the 12th of July last year the chair of governors wrote to Rosalind and me she accused us of posting disparaging and inflammatory comments on whatsapp and Facebook Yeah, you thought crimes you can't do anything anymore in the UK And you can't even say you have a wife. You have to call it your partner.

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I realize I am a fed Emily in the morning brisket here. Just drink us a beer in the church a net ski here Just drinking some bourbon in the church with the feds. Hello This is Baltimore's and in ski and I can do tariffs too. I'm going to put tariffs on prostitution drugs crocodile marijuana AK-47s all those things so take that Trump. Hi, this is Katie from the st. Joseph's brewery in Indianapolis, Indiana It's been a pleasure to host the no agenda folks, and I look forward to seeing them again.

Hey, this is Carol I am in training at st. Joseph's brewery, and I've also had been a pleasure Not one but two servers in the report I love those guys Thank You Indiana Indy meetup those guys are good They're glad we got the Wiggins Olinsky finally came up. He finally showed up. I can't believe he's putting the tariffs on hookers Oh that guy There is a meetup underway the TMI evac zone crossword puzzle meetup But it started at 330 at evergreen brewing in Camp Hill, Pennsylvania.

I'm sure they're still going strong Tomorrow April Fool's Day meetup not for fools at 530.

That'll be at Barley's in downtown, Knoxville, Tennessee Also on April Fool's Day Springfield, Missouri ain't no fool meetup see there's a theme here six o'clock It bears all-american sports bar and grill in Springfield, Missouri Then on Thursday Oh nothing on Liberation Day I want to miss the opportunity on Thursday our next show day the no agenda, New York City meetup Yes, there are still normal people in New York City five o'clock at the perfect pint West in New York City, New

York, New York And finally also on the third Thursday Northern Wake Publical slave gala the gathering that'll be at 6 o'clock at hoppy endings in Raleigh, North Carolina Many more meetups to come including Osaka Japan on April 5th. Make sure you check that one out I know there was a big meetup in the lowlands. I got pictures and everyone's having a good time So I expect to meet up reports from them, which is usually quite inebriated.

We love the meetup reports We love the meetups They're producer organized you get out of it what you put into it go to no agenda meetups comm guaranteed though You will always have a party if you can't find one near you start one yourself.

No agenda meetups And yes, thank you trolls I made a mistake, of course tomorrow is not the first but Tuesday is the first And that was incorrect in my crib sheet There's a 31st day of March, so yes, that was my mistake kind of I should have known better where was my partner Where's my partner correcting me? But I said Monday the first It's yeah, yeah, that was a mistake. Yeah All right. I so time I've got three they're real. They're not AI generated. Let's see how we do.

I think there's some real evil out there Hmm. Okay. No Delete that one. How about this? There's a good side and there's a dark side just like Star Wars Too long kind of how about this one? I think you'll like this one. You guys are freaks. How about that? That's pretty good There's nothing very complimentary about the show. Oh You would how about just fun and humor? No, no good. Okay. So what are your AI generated?

I so my AI generated I got to Any better the show can't be any better than that Yeah, how can I beat that where's the yo-yo yo, what's up I'm still working on it Mimi's actually working on it too and she can't It's not as easy as it looks Can some of our hip-hop trolls just send me a yo -yo yo, what's up, so I can just What up, yeah, so we can get this off our plates, please great show is the other one great show boys Yeah, I think I think this is obviously complimentary the show

can't be any better than that I mean, that's you have to go with that. It's kind of self-serving and kind of pathetic because yeah Yeah, not pathetic the result you yes Bob you're saying it's not pathetic. You're saying it's pathetic because it's AI generated It is the results of a 100 billion dollar per company Think about the money we save there you go I'm gonna do an off-handed tip of the day. That's not the tip of the day Just said just a suggestion for people like this shop at Costco.

Mm-hmm the grass-fed Butter in the green packaging. Yes, Tina loves that stuff Is excellent. Yes, I think is as good as the importance butters it she loves that stuff Yes, all the carnivores love that stuff they just eat it out of the pack It's a great product Carnivores man, the carnivore diet. It's like they eat butter like a stick looks like you put just there's a piece of bag I got a butter popsicle. That's pretty much Side tip side tip of the day.

Okay. Sorry perfect glass Though I'm telling you this company hopes It's a there's a cleaning product again a cleaning product company, but I'm telling you hopes perfect line of Cleaners and there's a bunch of them perfect glasses the one I'm going to mention here, but there's also a perfect sink Which is a stunner?

perfect sink will hopes is the brand a very Advanced product they're using the I don't know what tech they're using but they can Polish stainless steel sinks with this hopes perfect sink You wouldn't believe what you end up with it stainless steel the funny thing about stainless steel is stainless steel stains and Stainless steel stains easily. Yes, and this is for stainless steel sinks Not no perfect glasses for windows.

Okay. Yeah, perfect sink is for stainless steel sinks But they also have a stainless steel perfect stainless steel for other appliances that are made out of stainless steel Wow, but the hopes the entire hopes line of cleaning products is World-class and for example, the perfect glass is not like Windex which you know Windex It's like they've been coasting for years on their ammonia base It's no good Windex, you know Windex here in Texas All the the

Mexicans use Windex for everything Yeah, you got a scrape it's got a lot of ammonia and it does clean Yeah, no you you got a cut but if we're glasses it for glass, it doesn't clean Well, it doesn't really do the trick hopes. I'm going to get some Tina's always complaining about the glass always Well, then she'll love perfect glass perfect glass from hopes hopes perfect glass. I am do they have it for toilet bowls?

Well, they already did the toilet bowl with Lysol That's right Maybe was a competing product. I'm not doing any more toilet bowl stuff. Actually. I talked to Mimi about these suggestions She had another toilet bowl suggestions. No, where's Mimi's Mimi? Get your head out of the toilet bowl. We got to stop this These are serious tips of the day. Check it out a tip of the day. Not that no agenda fun calm And Sometimes Created by Dana Brunetti Wow But these are good tips.

I mean we actually wind up buying some of this stuff because we trust you You're a trustworthy guy. I am I'm very trustworthy. I wanted to do a series of books called honest John Ha ha Right after the Podfather Awards the microphone company the vinegar book and many other great thing, you know what? Why don't we just do another show on Thursday? Why don't we try that? There's an idea. Let's do that. At least we can get that done.

We can get that produced Thank you to everybody who helps produce this show Monetarily and otherwise it is all highly valued and highly appreciated Coming up next on the no agenda stream or in your modern podcast app random thoughts That's another good show. All of these shows are good and no agenda stream.

It's just got great shows also Excellent and outstanding end of show mixes from David Cacta and the clip custodian Neil Jones checks in with a double head Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country right here in FEMA Region number six for as long as people understand what that means in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where I remain. I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll talk to you on Thursday That will be April 3rd.

Please join us then and remember us at no agenda donations calm until then Express I Hear your virtue signaling coming back and slap you in the face like a wet salmon The wheels on the omnibus go round and round round and round round and round The wheels on the omnibus go round and round with all the EU clown I would argue that the new Jesus Christ of our era are Steve Jobs and Elon Musk. That's not true. He's incompetent. Elon Musk, aka real life Iron Man. He's a Nazi. He's a thief.

An immigrant to this country cemented his status. He's a Nazi. A Nazi. Musk is doing things that may revolutionize transportation and climate change. That's not true. When somebody as staggeringly rich and staggeringly intelligent as Elon Musk talks, people listen. He's incompetent. He's a thief. He's a Nazi. A Nazi. As a leader in science and technology whose name may indeed belong alongside those of Edison and Jobs, Elon Musk is incompetent in his position.

Put another way, Elon Musk today showed the world how it's done. You played a video of a town hall as though it's evidence of some broad anger that's out there, and it's not. We are mobilizing in New York. We have people going to the Republican districts. You just said you're organizing town halls in red districts. Going after these Republicans who are voting for this. You don't actually have to wait for them. You can hold that town hall. They organized it. They get loud. They get viral moments.

You schedule it. You invite them. If they come, that's great. But if they don't come, have an empty chair. Hundreds of Hoosiers gathered today at the downtown library for an empty chair town hall. This is a long, relentless fight that we fight every day. And I am confident that we will bring Trump's popularity, numbers and strength down. What we're seeing when we do this is that these are sold out. People want to come. People want to be involved in the process right now.

Our party is not that organized. You can try to organize town halls. The best podcast in the universe. Adios, mofo. Dvorak.org slash NA. The show can't be any better than that.