1740 - "DOGE-CAM"

What's the problem? AI sucks. Adam Currie. John C. Dvorak. It's Thursday, February 20th, 2025. This is your award-winning Gilmore Nation Media Assassination Episode 1740. This is no agenda. With a 4% approval rating. And broadcasting live from the heart of the textile country here in FEMA Region Number 6. In the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Currie. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we're all saying the same thing. Bring back the M-Bone. I'm John C. Dvorak.

You know, I would give anything to bring back the M-Bone. Did you know the Rolling Stones did a concert over the M-Bone? Yes, I know. It was, I think, 1996, I'm gonna say. Yeah, I remember it. All 15 people were able to watch it and enjoy it. It was actually 50,000, they say. Yeah, they say. It was only, the thing was only universities who had a T1 and Spark stations. That's the only people who could really see it. I want a number of people writing in about it.

They talked about the 6-Bone, which came later. I don't remember the 6-Bone. It was the M-Bone on IPV6. Oh, is that when they... Get it? Yeah, when IPVTV was going to be the next best thing. Well, IPTV is actually what's in play right now. Yeah, but they had it. It was a specific protocol and a whole thing they had developed that was IPTV, and they had set-top boxes for IPTV, and that went nowhere. Well, what about Internet 2? Remind me of that. What was Internet 2? I forgot.

Internet 2 is going to be the next big thing, and it was what the universities decided to move to. Yeah, now I don't know. And then everyone says, the universities are using... It's going to be the whole... It's going to ruin the regular Internet, because everyone's going to use Internet 2. Yes, I do remember that. Well, of course, many people who are listening now will not remember WebTV. They won't remember anything. We've just lost half the listenership.

Believe it or not, kids, when I was a kid, you could go to Sam Goody, and you could pick up a WebTV box, and it brought up a browser at, I think it was 2,400-baud speed. No, it was faster. Okay, maybe... That was a 9600-baud era. 9600-baud era, okay. And then you had a remote control that you controlled a little pointer with on the TV. And it was such an experience, and it was great. And Microsoft ended up buying the operation. Was it Microsoft? No, you're right. They bought it, and of course...

And they bought it for next to nothing. Yeah, well, it wasn't worth it. It was the last cheap purchase Microsoft made. It wasn't worth anything, so... Well, not when Microsoft got... Okay, well, let's take it to AOL TV. Remember that one? I sure do. Oh, man, we've been through a lot, John. Yeah, we got a couple of old farts here talking about the old days. That's right, baby. That's right. I remember my 56K frame relay. Frame relay. I had frame relay, man. Yeah, yeah, you were rocking it.

I had ISDN. Well, that was the... ISDN was 64 kilobits, I think, wasn't it? Yeah, but it was two channels. Oh, that's right. So you got 128? Yeah. Yeah. But it was super dedicated, so it was very... And it would never dial in. It would still work to this day. All TV feeds were over ISDN back in the day. I remember that it was really... If you dialed in an ISDN and it would disconnect, it would take forever to get the connection. But it worked great. Once you connected it, it did.

Yeah. So we predict... Yeah, I remember. Johnny. We predict many things on this show. And you actually predicted something a while back about the left wanting a Joe Rogan on the left, and you compared that to the days of Air America. When was that? I was trying to reminisce with Tina. Was that... Well, Air America was a... Once Rush Limbaugh started hitting his stride, all these clones came up. Michael Savage and all these guys went on radio, and they're all right-wingers.

And so Air America came about probably in the late 90s. I'd have to... I can look it up. I think it's 96. They came about as the counter-programming to all the right-wing guys on AM radio. And did Microsoft wind up buying that for next to nothing? No, they didn't. I'm surprised. Well, I took your prediction, made it my own, took full credit for it, of course, and mentioned this to Joe on my recent appearance on the Joe Rogan Experience podcast.

What I think we'll see, the first thing after the election is, we need a Joe Rogan on the left. We need a Joe Rogan. Well, guys, you basically had a Joe Rogan on the left, but you were so crazy that Joe started to think right. They didn't want me. That was the thing. They didn't want you? But that's all the PSYOP working against them. Because in the past, they could take someone like me and demonize them and it would be effective.

And they could just remove you from the airwaves and then remove you as a problem because you're not playing by the rules. But now people go, oh, you know what? I think he's the one who's actually telling the truth. Let's stop listening to them. And so then CNN crashes and then faith in mainstream media crashes and faith in podcasts rises. I think what we'll see though is, and it may come from YouTube, we'll probably see them try to hype someone up to become the Joe Rogan of the left.

Well, they're already definitely doing that. But the thing is, I don't care. I don't know if Joe knew, but headlines, headlines, Midas Touch dethrones Joe Rogan as top podcast in the country. Wait, hold on. What? I never even heard of this podcast. How could it be the top podcast in the country? I will explain. Yes, please explain to everybody. Well, first let's play, of course, it's working. The hype is working as intended.

And here's MSNBC, Stephanie Ruhle, you know, you know her, all the boys. Yeah, another one of the lipless wonders on MSNBC. All the boys in the Goldman trading floor loved her. All right, new topic, Joel, before we go. The left-leaning podcast Midas Touch has just done the unthinkable, dethroned. Stop, stop. Wait, are you telling me that the Midas Touch, which is a podcast I've never heard of, has replaced Chappo Trap House? Oh, Chappo Trap House is nowhere to be found. They're completely gone.

What happened to them? They were, they were kicking ass. That's a good question. That is a good question. I know they were bringing at least $2 million a year. I don't know what happened to them. They had them divided amongst 25 people, but it's beside the point. Has just done the unthinkable, dethroned Joe Rogan to become the country's most popular podcast. Do you see this as a sign of a bigger political shift?

Because even these three guys specifically, they are not your touchy-feely progressives. They're like three bros from Long Island. Look, I think that this does signal one, Democrats and let's just call it the non -conservative ecosystem catching up to where the kind of Rogan right has been. Rogan right. They're not policy guys, they're anti-Trump guys. Rogan right, Rogan was a libertarian left winger. Rogan right. Has been. And they're not policy guys, they're anti-Trump.

By the way, you gotta be careful with you calling libertarians left wing. It gets me in trouble, so stop it. The kind of Rogan right has been. And they're not policy guys, they're anti-Trump guys. And they crank it out all day, every day. And I do think the fact that this is organic. Organic, oh yeah. Wait for it. Ecosystem that was just built up with heavy investment from millionaires and billionaires. These are folks who've been grinding and working. Grinding.

My suspicion is they probably were gonna get to this point anyway. But it does, I think, signal where groups and where organizations and where candidates on the Democratic side are gonna focus a lot of their effort going forward. You've gotta dominate this space. That's where conversation is. That's where a lot of people get their news is on YouTube, online. You have to be present there. And you have to have messengers that are fearless and that know how to talk to these folks comfortably.

And in messy conversations that are often complicated. People often say that Democrats don't know how to hit. These guys are hitters. Oh, they're hitters. Yeah, and Democrats have the confidence to go anywhere and make a case. We've got a fragmented media ecosystem. So it's good to see a little more political diversity in that. Democrats are gonna have to play offense and stop just preaching to their choir, right? The essence of evangelism is winning conference.

So you gotta get out there with the confidence to make a case. And not simply play to your base. All right. So let's talk about the Midas Touch for a moment. Yes, a podcast I've never heard of until this very minute. I had not heard of it either until Newsweek brought us the headline, which everyone is repeating, Midas Touch dethrones Joe Rogan. How can it dethrone anything? It just showed up. You don't dethrone it. It's like instant bestseller. Yeah, exactly. That would have been even better.

So I did a deep dive. These numbers come from PodScribe. And PodScribe, they use a tracking pixel on downloads, which is one of the more valid ways of getting download numbers. And so the most recent PodScribe chart, now that's just PodScribe, which means everybody has to participate, which they don't. We don't participate in any of that nonsense. We have no tracking pixels. There's absolutely no reason to have that. Bragging rights. Exactly. I think their measurement is correct.

They say 57 million downloads for the Midas Touch podcast versus Joe Rogan's 57 versus 50 million monthly downloads. And let's just listen to a minute of the most recent episode of the Midas Touch. Just three bros. Just three bros. That's all they are. And are you okay? I swallowed some tea. Oh, well, it's going in the right direction. Down the throat. Here is the most recent episode of the Midas Touch. It's a dude sitting in a chair with a big mic in his face.

Look at these headlines from the United Kingdom this morning. The Daily Express says, Shameful Trump attack stuns the world. From the Daily Star, Putin's poodle. And Donald Trump is in the character of a poodle. And then being walked by Putin. And then the Daily Mail, Trump appalls world with dictator blast at Zelensky. So in between Donald Trump's vacationing yesterday, playing golf once again.

Remember over the weekend while there were devastating storms in Kentucky, Virginia, West Virginia, Donald Trump was circling around the Daytona 500 in his motorcade, but then playing golf and then golfed over the weekend. He's golfed every day since then on our taxpayer dime. And in between then, he's been attacking Zelensky. Yesterday, he called Zelensky a dictator. He threatened Zelensky. He threatened our allies in NATO. We'll get to that in just a bit.

And while all of that's going on, you have Elon Musk using his rage algorithm, his disinformation and propaganda network known as X used to be Twitter, making posts like this and making a mockery of the fact that he and Doge and Donald Trump are cutting essential services and destroying lives. So riveting content, riveting. And I can tell you how they got this number. Yeah, this number is jacked up. It's bullcrap. Well, you know, you can jack up. I did the deep dive. I'm Notebook LM.

These guys released 13 episodes a day between 13 and 20 episodes a day, and they're all short. They're about 10 to 15 minutes. Sometimes they include and it's just as far as I can tell, it's only one guy. I don't know. I could not find one with the three brothers talking. They have a network which is all counted with the same pixel as far as I can tell, who also release an extraordinary amount of episodes per day. I think they have 10 podcasts. Some of them they host themselves.

They have some other people. So, yeah, if you get 100,000 per downloads per episode, which is, you know, we get more than that. And you do 15 of them a day. Yeah, you can get to 50, you know, you can get to 50, 57 million. If you buy a little bit of bot traffic, that'll help. But these guys, and I think that they have the money for bot traffic because these guys are not just some bros from Brooklyn.

These guys had a political action committee in 2020, which whose sole purpose was to stop the re-election of Donald Trump. The super PAC aligned with the Democrat Party. So they had a PAC, then the super PAC. It was the Democracy, Defense and Action in 2023. These guys are no slouches. One's a lawyer. One is that I think he's a partner with Colin Kaepernick. These guys have been around. They are literally in millionaire and billionaire circles.

Yeah. So they have plenty of money to buy some bot traffic. And they just sit there and say Trump sucks 15 times a day. It's like it's not even comparable. But no, it's not. Anyone can just say Trump sucks. Yeah, we can do it. Trump sucks. We can get 57 million downloads a day. So this is, it's just amazing that you predicted this. You said that they would go finding this and there it is. And it's pathetic. I mean, it's really, it's no good. I tried. I'm like, they had an interview.

Oh, we got a great interview today with Jim Acosta. That's got to be, that's got to be stirring. Uh, yeah. So no, I, uh, I don't put much into this. I just thought, well, the thing is they were supposed to do a, uh, Rogan, uh, Rogan that was going to be Rogan in terms of like the way the show is structured. Three hours of a long conversation with someone where the, where the person's drawn out and they discuss things in great detail.

You get to understand and know them in that sort of, in that sort of format, which is not easy to do. Only a few people can do it. And, uh, that's what they were supposed to find somebody could do that. And they can't. I mean, anyone can do a five, 10 minute podcast. Yeah. They'll be coming out of pod Angeles, pod Angeles studios. Oh, the pod Angeles studios. Yes, indeed. Um, well, and we may have to make a new prediction about something else. Very soon.

Pope Francis continues his recovery from pneumonia, eating breakfast out of bed on Thursday morning after a six peaceful night at the hospital. The Vatican said the Holy see spokesman Mattia Bruni issued a new update after confirming late Wednesday, that new blood tests showed a slight improvement in some of the inflammations. The pontiff was visited on Wednesday by Italian prime minister, Georgia Maloney, his first known VIP visitor. How is she a non VIP visitor?

I think it is botching a loopy guy doing that. And that's your own news. For some reason, a minister, Georgia Maloney is first known VIP visitor. She reported after their 20 minute visit that the Holy father was in good spirits and had joked around as always. Pope Francis was admitted to Rome's Gemelli hospital on February 14th after a bout of bronchitis.

He is diagnosed with pneumonia in both lungs on top of a polymicrobial infection in his respiratory tract, meaning a combination of bacteria, virus and fungi. I don't wish ill on anyone, but, you know, at 88, this is not a good thing for the for the pope. And now, in fact, this is pneumonia that kills most. That's what kills most people. It kills most people. And, of course, I predicted this guy would become the pope. And I base that on geopolitical insights, as we always do.

Same as us predicting the Super Bowl. Exactly. And you will predict the next pope, too. Yes, I'm absolutely convinced of it. This is not a prediction, but I have my eye on Robert Serra of Guinea. Of where? Guinea. Guinea? Guinea. Yes. Guinea. Guinea. Yeah. I think we need a black pope. Oh, yeah, that's an interesting. Yeah. I, you know, we need we need to we need to. A black pope. A black pope. Yes. I'm thinking that I'm not sure. I'm not.

This is not my final prediction, but I'm liking this guy as a candidate. Because he's very conservative. And I think Guinea is just interesting. I think Guinea may be maybe the place to be. The place to be. Well, well, I mean, we need we need a pope from Africa. We had a pope from South America, now a pope from Africa. That would that seems on brand for the Vatican. I mean, we know it's. How about a Russian pope? Yeah, good luck with that. That's not going to happen.

No, there's now there is a Filipino possibility. But that would clash. I mean, that would be really clashing with with China. And then we have another guy. Well, that might be not a bad idea to clash. That's possible. We have a guy from Ghana. So I'm still I'm still working on it. But and I don't want to make any predictions until until it's time for a new pope. That just would not be appropriate. I'm not going to do that. But I'm thinking I'm thinking about it. You are.

Let's talk about some things that are really going on. I mean, our show is done. We just nailed it with everything. What more do we need to do? I think we should talk about the DOJ. Let's try these clips. DOJ foil. Fail, I think supposed to be. OK, I have four, three to NPR. Love it. We are now about one month into President Trump's term and Justice Department veterans are starting to notice a pattern. They say the DOJ seems to be more lenient with people who appear loyal to the president.

NPR Justice Correspondent Gary Johnson has been reporting on some of those cases. Hi there. Hey there. Hi there. Hey there. Hi there. Hey there. Hi there. So we're talking, obviously, about politically sensitive cases. What exactly are you hearing from people both in and outside the Justice Department? Steven Salzberg spent years at justice under Presidents Reagan and George H.W. Bush. He says alarm is actually an understatement about what's happening there.

Prosecutors seem to be backing away from cases against people with ties to Donald Trump. There are patterns that we haven't really seen in the past. None of the patterns inspire a lot of confidence that the department is being evenhanded in its approach to cases. Salzberg says this actually started on Inauguration Day with Trump's clemency for more than 1,500 people who took part in the Capitol riot.

He says it looks like Trump wanted to cut those people a break because they were acting on his behalf. Just as a... Wait, wait. Before you go, I just want to mention what she just said about the clemency and the parts has nothing, absolutely nothing to do with the Justice Department. No, that was Trump's pardon. Yeah. Okay. Now, you were saying? Well, I was going to say the Department of Justice falls under the executive branch, correct? Yep. And who's in charge of the executive branch?

Let me think. Let me look at my sheets. Oh, Trump. Yeah, yeah, the president. Okay. All right. Well, now it gets... Now the propaganda from these jokers gets worse. I will inject a reminder here that Trump, of course, was himself investigated by the Justice Department, was charged twice by the Justice Department. Prosecutors dropped those charges against him after he won the election in November. Is that experience echoing through the Justice Department now? It absolutely is.

After Trump returned to the White House, prosecutors abandoned their obstruction case against two of his aides at the Mar-a-Lago resort, while Nauta and Carlos de Oliveira allegedly helped Trump hide classified documents from the FBI. Allegedly. And Trump's spoken a lot lately about how the Justice Department went after him. He says that gave him an appreciation for the plight of other politicians accused of wrongdoing. That's really showed.

In recent weeks, DOJ dropped a case against former Nebraska Congressman Jeff Fortenberry. Oh, man. Okay, stop it there. They dropped the case. The case was overturned. It was still pending, but it was overturned on appeal. It was overturned. And so they dropped the case that was overturned. They don't... Did they mention that? No. This is NPR, our national treasure. Are you telling me that they are propagandizing and lying? Or just maybe spreading misinformation?

So maybe there's another instance of this. Prosecutors in Nashville withdrew from an investigation against Republican Congressman Andy Ogles. Ogles, of course, had introduced a bill that would clear the way for Trump to serve a third term in office. Okay, Ogle. What was the case against Ogle? Did they tell you? No, I have no idea. But they dropped a case. He failed to file his election, some election paperwork two weeks late, which was illegal. Yes. So it was a process.

It was a process of persecution, I guess is the word I should use. It was bullcrap. It was one of those minor things. It was paperwork. And so they, oh, they dropped the case against him. Oh, my God. What are we going to do? And then they throw in the little, basically a non sequitur. He introduced, and everybody does this for both sides of the aisle. Oh, yeah, all the time. Introduce, oh, let him in for another season or whatever. A reveal. And so they throw that in to compound the bullcrap.

This is basically a report of lies. NPR has turned into just a propagandistic tool for the Democrat Party. What do you mean turned into? Okay, gambling. Turned into gambling. And then on Friday, the DOJ moved to dismiss the case against New York Mayor Eric Adams. Yeah, this is good. Stay with the Mayor Adams case for a sec. It's a big one. And I know the fallout is. Hey, by the way, is she a disciple of the other guys? I knew you'd spot that. Yes, she's talking like this.

Yeah, she talks like the same way the other guy does. Yes, she's NPR's. She knew I would spot it. You have anything to say about it? Or it's just what it is? Yeah, it's just what it is. Stay with the Mayor Adams case for a sec. That's a big one. And I know the fallout is continuing. What is the latest? Seven prosecutors quit rather than move to drop that case. They said it looked like an unlawful quid pro quo. Adams and his lawyer have flatly denied that.

But the judge in the case, Dale Ho, has ordered both sides to court Wednesday in New York to explain why the prosecution's being dismissed. And meanwhile, more than 900 former Justice Department prosecutors signed a letter to salute the people still at justice for responding to ethical challenges with courage and conviction. One of the people who signed is Peter Zydenberg.

He says senior lawyers at justice did not seem to hide they were acting for political reasons to secure Eric Adams' cooperation with immigration agents. The politicization of the Department of Justice seems like it's complete. But the chief of staff to the current attorney general says this DOJ wants to focus on its core function of prosecuting dangerous criminals, not pursuing politically motivated witch hunts. Hmm, that sounds wrong to me.

Sure. You know, if you and I were running NPR, we would not allow her to continue on the air. I mean, she sounds so hoity toity. It's just she may not be. She may be a very fine person on both sides. But when she goes, doesn't that miss the mark on your audience? I think so. Yeah, I really think so. They have a lot of people like that. They also have a couple of screechers and some people that can barely enunciate. Yes. It's pathetic. Yes. Hey, hi. Hello. So how are you doing?

And they get government money. And I didn't cut this. Not much. Not much. Let's stop with that. More than we get. Well, that's true. If we were trans, we'd be rolling in dough. We missed an obvious opportunity. Missed an obvious opportunity. True. True that. True that, boy. That reminds me of something that current Attorney General, this is Pam Bondi, something she said, which is that she wants to go after weaponization. She does.

Bondi seems to be focused on people who help bring cases against Donald Trump. Harvard law professor Jack Goldsmith wrote this week, this all seems to be doublespeak, part of a playbook to weaponize DOJ law enforcement like never before against Trump's perceived enemies. And the fear of many of my sources is that the DOJ will, on one hand, move to help Trump's friends get out of trouble.

And on the other, use its vast powers of investigation and prosecution against people who have criticized the president. And here's Kerry Johnson there. Thanks, Kerry. Thanks for having me. Thanks. Does this help his friends, help his friends get out of trouble? That includes Eric Adams, the Democrat who never liked Trump. He's one of his friends. Is that the deal? And these other two doofuses that just had, you know, some paperwork issues that that's it. That's that's the best examples.

The only examples they could come up with was some guy's case, which is already overturned. And another guy who failed to file some election paperwork within the two week time limit. You're very mad at people who have no audience. They have an audience. People listen on the radio. Here's an update on the Eric Adams case. Embattled Mayor Eric Adams greeted like a villain when he arrived at federal court. How is that greeting him like a villain? It's like greeting him like the opposing team.

Walking out like a victorious hero after Judge Dale Ho gave no indication he would deny DOJ's request to dismiss the corruption case against him while calling it a very unusual situation. The judge conceding the court does have a limited role to play. When asked by the judge if the mayor understood the charges could be reinstated, Adams telling the court, I have not committed a crime. I don't see them bringing it back. I'm not afraid of that.

Acting Deputy Attorney General Emile Bouvier adding, I don't have any plans to bring back the case in the future. The acting U.S. attorney and six other federal prosecutors resigned last week in protest, claiming the mayor cut a deal with the Trump administration to enforce immigration policies. Monday, four deputy mayors stepped down, prompting Governor Hochul to hold meetings this week with key leaders on if she should remove the mayor from office.

But Bouvier says this is DOJ's straight prosecutorial discretion. There is no quid pro quo. And even if it was, there wouldn't be any issue with that. Meanwhile, was forced to put on the record that the reason for dismissing the case was because it interferes with the mayor's ability to enforce the president's immigration agenda. So Eric Adams, good to go. I guess because this kicks him out, which is a possibility they have been discussing and are discussing.

One of our producers sent me a note about Sassoon, the acting attorney general. She looks 20, by the way. She's pretty young, very young, youthful. Yeah. The one who quit after three weeks on the job. They would say keep fail, keep failing to mention in all the reporting. Yes. And who who is a member of the Sassoon family, which I learned is one of the big banker families, particularly notorious, allegedly, for making their fortune off of opium addicts in China in the 1900s. Oh, how about that?

Isn't that interesting? So who's the billionaire now, huh? All right. Since you, you threw those clips on me and made me sit through it, I'm going to bring you into... I can't make you do anything. I'm going to bring you into the realm of pooper. I mean, if they really wanted to be transparent, which they say they are being transparent, but if they really wanted to, I mean, they could have cameras with the Doge team. Here's body cams. This is body cams on the Doge team.

That's exactly what he's talking about. As they're, you know, running the wood chipper and dismantling, you know, putting agencies through wood chipper. He's putting, he's putting everything into wood chipper, but give him body cams. Through the wood chipper. I mean, we've seen the president had cameras in the Oval Office. Should be live streaming on TikTok. Is he signing executive order after executive order? There are other things they could do to be more transparent, aren't there? Certainly.

And the question really has been, what is accurate? I love how she just said, certainly. But hold on a second. He's signing these executive orders in front of the press. Yeah. How much more transparent? And then they talk about it and then he'll take questions on every one of them. How more transparent is he supposed to be naked, maybe sitting there? It's not about the president. It's about the co-president. We want a body cam on Elon. He should do that, by the way. That'd be pretty funny.

He'd get a lot of hits if he had run a live stream. I think it's a great idea. I think you should take this to heart and make the Doge team wear body cams. Especially with all the sex he's having with all these various women. Certainly. The question really has been, what is accurate about what they are finding and what they are uncovering?

We're seeing allegations from White House officials that tens of millions of people are receiving Social Security that are either dead or should not be receiving it. Obviously, that would be a third of people who get Social Security. When you actually look at audits that have been done, including one that was done, I believe, two years ago in 2023. This is something that the government has been reviewing in the past. It's not a newfound idea.

But then sometimes there are claims that you've seen the administration make, including when Elon Musk was confronted about one of them, about condoms going to Gaza in the Oval Office, who said it was not true and that he would correct things when they were wrong. But oftentimes, it takes some work going on behind the scenes to ask them about that before they get there. Wait, hold on, stop.

She goes on and talks about it wasn't true, but they don't talk about what did happen, which was the same amount of condoms went to Mozambique, which he called them out on when they said, hey, it never went to Gaza, they went to Mozambique. And he said, yeah, so that's good. That's better. What are you talking about? Hey, man. So she just blows by that information. It's AC 360, man. I mean, it's even lower than NPR. They're running us out of town.

We won't have media to deconstruct if they keep this up. Well, no, now we got the Midas touch. No, it's true. When they were wrong. But oftentimes, it takes some work going on behind the scenes to ask them about that before they get there. And so I think that has been a big part of the question here in terms of accountability and transparency and what's actually accurate and what is fraud and what is simply something that this administration disagrees with.

Before I continue with this series breaking news, Kash Patel has been confirmed. Good. Yes. That should be good for a laugh. Yeah. And now you're right. Every single one of his nominees went through. Except for Matt Gaetz. Well, yeah, I mean, he bailed. He bailed early. Now, Anderson. I mean, this is how low CNN has come. It's like, who can we bring in to talk about Doge? Come on, John. You know who? Hotep. Close.

You know, there were there were camera crews with the Marines on, you know, and the military on D-Day as they landed at the beach to show the American people. Oh, did the did the Marines have body cams? Hey, a D-Day. They had camera crews. I mean, we should have them at Doge Day. What kind of comparison is this? This is off the wall. This is insane. As they landed at the beach to show the American people what was happening. I don't understand why not be transparent.

I think anybody from any political background. I've never heard this in the news media that that they that they want body cams on. I mean, let's put body cams on attorneys general. Let's put body. You know what? Let's put a body cam on Anderson Cooper. How about this for an idea? And I've written about this in my sub stack column. They've worked at sub stack dot com. Let's put cams in the classroom. Now you're talking.

I have body cams on the teachers that first would be happy with cutting waste and cutting inefficiencies and any kind of abuse and any kind of bloat and all that stuff. Why not be super transparent about it? This group was fired because X, Y and Z. And we don't even know the decision making process. You know, you hear reports about from people have been fired that like I had to go to present in front of some, you know, 20 something year old who knows nothing about my agency.

I had to justify my job in a minute or two or something. Here she comes. Right. That's what they want to do. They want to create chaos and confusion. Girl, it's Kara. It's your protege. It's because these decisions aren't very well made because they're not interested in reforming. They're interested in reforming. They would pass congressional laws. Right. That's the way you do it. But they're interested in doing is shock and awe. And we're coming in. We're just going to cut.

It's a very common thing that Elon does at all his companies. He comes in and upends. Someone at one of his companies says he comes in, he upends a trash can and then runs out. And everyone's summarily scared. And then they get back to work. And in this case, that's what he's doing. He's creating a situation of discomfort among these people to do that. But they don't want you to see it because either there's nothing to see or they're doing things, perhaps not the most legal of ways.

And I probably both of those are true. Yes. I think actually played one out of order. This was this is where introduction. Much more now on Elon Musk and Doge and who's running it, among many other things. Joining us is Kara Swisher, who knows Elon Musk well and is often written about him. She's an incurred his ire, of course. She's host of podcasts. The podcast on with Kara Swisher, co-host of Pivot. And we're happy to say a CNN contributor. So Kara, who runs Doge? We need to get a big become.

When did she become a CNN contributor? Well, she's on that show. She was on the show with with Chris, the guy who left, who became a podcaster. Cuomo? No, no, no. The Fox guy. Chris Hayes? No, the Fox guy. What's his name? Fox guy. Yeah. The guy who left Fox for CNN, then left CNN to become a podcaster instead of the humiliation of being fired. Chris Wallace. Oh, Chris Wallace. Yes. Chris Wallace. So and then she was on his panel. I'm sorry.

Yeah, this is not a, you know, a Kumbaya group of people making decisions. This is Elon Musk making decisions or presenting things to the president. The president just shakes his head. I doubt he very much knows a lot of the specifics of what they're doing. But diving into agencies like this, like they're like they're a marine force attacking a beach. That's what they're doing. They're creating fear. They're creating a narrative about they're coming. They're coming to get you.

And, you know, what they're really trying to do, if you what I think they're trying to do is get control of this data for purposes of uniting. I love how so the narrative they have created. That these media people have created is that they're storming the beaches. What I think they're trying to do is get control of this data for purposes of uniting it in some way, using AI, probably Elon's AI company to do so. So I'm always paying attention to what they're after, which is to me.

What is she even talking about? They're trying to get a hold of the data. They're going to try to unite it. What do you mean? What does she mean by they're trying to unite it? They're trying to use Elon's AI company to do it. Unite it. What is she talking about? Yes, the beaches are back open. Yeah, I have no idea. Much more now on. Oops, hold on. Let's move on to the next piece. You know, let's play just a bite of one other clip from this interview. I used to be adored by the left.

You know, not anymore. Hey, this is the end. This everyone and oh, they're playing this over and I can't believe we had Elon and the and the president, his co-president. They did an interview on Fox, of course, on Fox, of course. Used to be adored by the left. You know, not anymore. Less so these days. He killed that, huh? I mean, less. I really didn't. I mean, it's this whole sort of like, you know, it's they call it like Trump derangement syndrome.

And I don't you know, you don't realize how real this is until like it's you can't reason with people. So like I was at a friend's birthday party in LA, just a birthday dinner. I have to mention the president's name. And it was like they got shot with a dart in the jugular that contained like methamphetamine and rabies. OK, good line. What is wrong with guys like you can't have like a normal conversation. Yeah. And it's like it's like they become completely irrational. I'm going to confirm this.

I have received several emails in the past few days in between shows of people saying my liberal friends have basically divorced me. Like this, like, you know, won't talk. One of our friends is a yoga instructor. I don't get it because I thought this was over. No, it's accelerated. I've reacquainted myself with the lib joes. Well, just you wait. No, I think I think we're just ahead of the curve here in California. That's OK. One of our friends is a yoga instructor in in Illinois.

And and one of her long term clients all of a sudden went, you're to blame for this. You voted for him, you Christian nationalists. I mean, she was shocked. She was shocked. Christian nationalist. I know, you know, just parrot everything mean. Well, that's exactly as he called us. And Tina says, Adam, could you just tell her what what Christian nationalism is? It's a bullcrap term that was made up. Yeah, it's like conspiracy theorists. I think the CIA dreamed it up.

Yeah. But the whole idea is if you do not agree with them, they call you unintelligent, stupid, expected better from you, sexist, racist, Nazi. And then I can't talk with you anymore. I'm sorry. I can't talk with you anymore. Can't talk with you anymore. And Trump is coming for your Social Security. By the way, I will say Tina received her first Social Security check this month. This is Tina. Sixty two. She took early until she was sixty five. Now she's early.

We know she went and she did the early. OK, yeah, yeah. Well, after the covid shots, I think, yeah, you want to take the early because you're not going to make it that long. She didn't take a covid shot. What are you talking about? What's wrong with you? I'm talking for in general. Oh, in general. Yes. OK. It's interesting to watch the dynamic between them and also how a lot of people in the company of Elon Musk like have this fake laugh, like what he's saying is like super, super funny.

I know every joke, joke. Well, it's everything is. Have you noticed this? The fake. We have to be on the lookout. Who does the fake laugh? I haven't. I'm sorry. I didn't. Whatever she was saying, I didn't understand what she's talking about, what Anderson Cooper says. Listen again. It's interesting to watch the dynamic between them and also how a lot of people in the company of Elon Musk like have this fake laugh, like what he's saying is like super, super funny. I know every joke, joke.

Well, it's everything is super funny when they're the world's richest man. In case you're interested, if you ever get to that status, you know, I think they're just trying to show, trying to. This is a show. What Anderson? It said the word show. You know, the president said that this is the buddy company, and I think that's what they're going for. And of all people, Donald Trump understands the power of narrative. And there's a narrative happening here. But just don't bother us with the details.

This is not you know, this is a way to do shock and awe rather than actually do the hard task of reforming the government, which everybody is behind. But why do it this way? Because it's interesting because it's a show, because it's entertaining, because there's is he a villain? Is he is the Iron Man or is he Thanos like that kind of thing? And I think they don't mind if you think either thing of them. They just want you to keep watching.

I'm not even going to play my last clip, but it's too stupid to listen to. What is he talking about? They're laughing. Apparently, people around Musk have a fake laugh. I guess. I don't know. I mean, I haven't seen any evidence of this. No, that's why we need to pay attention to it. Also, look for it also on CNN. I know you saw this. Don't blow the punch line. But this isn't don't blow. Don't blow the punch line. This is an excellent example of the Mann -Gellman amnesia effect.

And what that means is if you hear someone reads originally, if you read something in a newspaper that you really are an expert on the topic, everybody's an expert on something and you read something factually incorrect, you have to assume that everything else in that newspaper is probably factually incorrect. And in this case, they bring on Mr. Wonderful, Mr. Wonderful Kevin O'Leary. He's also a shark in the shark tank and knows nothing. They're not whacking enough.

There's this concept in private equity when you get a bankrupt company and you go in there, you cut 20 percent more than your initial read. And then you find like a pool of mercury. The organization gels back together again. Always cut deeper, harder when there's fat and waste. The FAA is not the people. The code is cobalt. It's from the 60s. It's cobalt, I tell you. It's from the 60s. It's cobalt.

And then he goes on to say it needs CapEx put into it for the technology to be upgraded to make it safer, fat like a chicken. Safer. Cobalt. I don't think it's unsafe. It may be. Oh, it's actually quite secure. Yeah, it may be arcane. It's just hard to hack. Yeah. And you may have to use all uppercase, but it's it's not a cobalt. What a tool. Yeah, I saw that, too, obviously, that they retweeted it. Yeah, I saw staying with the Doge.

And I I said right away, I found this very suspicious and I wanted people to to who live in the I think they call it the in the DMV area, D .C., Virginia, Maryland, to let me know if they saw that there was indeed a surge of people putting their houses up for sale because of the Doge cuts. And turns out now. Have you seen this post making the rounds on social media? It shows an explosion of houses hitting the market in Arlington County and Falls Church.

The post suggests that President Trump and Elon Musk's slashing of the federal workforce is leading to a mass real estate selloff and a mass exodus from northern Virginia. The chief economist for the National Association of Realtors says this viral pick is bogus. Right now, we're not seeing any major increase in inventory or any plunging in home prices.

Ashley Waymeier is a real estate agent in northern Virginia, and she says this bogus post has real estate agents across the area scrambling to try to set the story straight. Some realtors have been posting because they've been getting calls from clients saying, what's going on? Is this true? Should I put my house on the market right now? Bottom line, there is no selloff and the housing inventory is actually still low in the DMV. And the numbers prove it.

Here's a breakdown of the housing inventory in northern Virginia for the first two weeks of this month compared to the same time last year. This time period covers the fork in the road emails sent to federal workers. And what we see here is, well, not much other than in Loudoun County, across the entire DC metro region, there were just nine more homes on the market compared to last year. That is not significant.

And like I said, in Loudoun, you are seeing that, but you do have the new builds and you also have new construction, but you also have people who have been ordered to return to work. And so they're looking, maybe we should come back in and be a little bit closer now. Yeah. And that's confirmed by Tom Starkweather, end of show mixer, meetup organizer and producer of the show. He says it's great. The traffic going into DC now is at a crawl in the morning because everybody has to go back to work.

So it's factually just untrue. But, you know, oh, doge is kicking butt here. Look at that. Wow. These crazy are losing. They're selling their houses. No, but I'm sure there will be an uptick eventually, by the way. Well, there is an uptick of nine houses. Nine houses. I think when it comes to inflation, which is, you know, of course, President Trump, he said right away, price is going to do it. And I put my hand on the Bible, which he didn't do. Then prices, everything's going to come down.

Life's going to get cheaper. I think it will in housing if they count that in the CPI. Do they count housing and CPI? They take that out, right? I think as they keep changing the rules for it makes it more fun. That doesn't look good. Let's take that out. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that you'll see housing prices go down because the migrant issue is ending. Hotel prices may come down. They have to come down. And there's just going to be more housing available. I'm sure they won't count.

I think housing and energy. Well, that's core. We don't want to report on that. And we need to report on the hamburger helper. That's really exciting. Eggs. Eggs is really expensive. Hamburger helper. There was another bogus video that I want to bring to everyone's attention. This was posted on social media as JD Vance made the chairman of the Munich Security Conference cry after the speech of Vice President Vance on Friday. We have to fear that our common value base is not that common anymore.

I'm very grateful to all those European politicians that spoke out and reaffirmed the values and principles that they are defending. No one did this better than President Zelensky. Let me conclude. And this becomes difficult. He was leaving his post after being there for I don't know how many years. And they edited the end into that piece and posted it. And people went, oh, that's so good. Mega is making him cry. It's not true. It's not true. Media lies. Gambling, gambling.

Yeah. And while we're on it, let's let's play this little bit from Lindy, Lindy Hop, Lady G Graham, who, of course, is, you know, whoa, I'm all for the president. Yeah, he can he can have a meeting without Zelensky. He can do whatever he wants, because I love President Trump. I'm all in. I'm Lindy Hep G. There will be no deal without Ukraine being consulted and on board because it won't work. I talked to Zelensky today. Nobody is going to do anything that that you're not involved with.

But talking to the Russians separately, I'm actually OK with that. Then go back to Ukraine and see what they think and keep working. Keep working at the end. You got to get both parties into the room. But those who are criticizing Trump, where were you in 2014 to my Democratic friends are up in arms. You had a chance to deter a Russian invasion. You failed miserably, miserably. I think there's one person that Putin really is afraid of. That's Trump.

If you ever get a good deal on Ukraine to be because Trump created a sense of dread by Russia. You know, Senator Graham, that's quite rich of you to be saying to my Democratic friends. Where were you in 2014? Where were you, Lindsey Graham, in 2014? Your fight is our fight. 2017 will be the year of offense. All of us will go back to Washington and we will push the case against Russia. You remember this little bit of video? Enough of a Russian aggression.

I see it is time for them to pay a heavier price. And he just goes, you are two faced. What he was gambling going on. Now he's he's horrible. He's really horrible. I got some Ukraine clips. Let's go with this. Let's go with the Ukraine peace rap one. The special envoy to Ukraine and Russia is in Kyiv today. That's as President Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky exchange strong accusations. NTD's international correspondent, Ariane Postar, has the Ukraine update. Postar's the guy.

Here's our guy. What is he? Our guy? He's the guy with the voice. Oh. NTD's international correspondent, Ariane Postar, has the Ukraine update. The new Jeff Begay's special envoy to Ukraine and Russia, Keith Kellogg, is in Kyiv this week. He already met with some high ranking officials on Wednesday and is scheduled to sit down with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky as well. General Kellogg is already in Kyiv.

He has met with Commander in Chief Sirsky, our intelligence and special service heads, and the head of my office. Our meeting with General Kellogg is scheduled for tomorrow. Kellogg's visit to Kyiv comes after he was part of a U.S. delegation that held talks with Russian counterparts in Saudi Arabia. Zelensky has repeatedly said the U.S. and Russia can't agree on a peace deal without Ukraine being involved in the talks. Russian President Vladimir Putin said this on Wednesday.

President Trump told me during our phone call that the U.S. assumed that both Russia and Ukraine will take part in the negotiating process. Nobody is excluding Ukraine from this process. They took like 48 hours, everyone moaning and groaning about us, America, forget who, it doesn't even matter who it is, talking to Russia separately outside of Ukraine, just our own little deals, you know, what can we do here?

And then everyone's all up in arms and Zelensky starts saying that Trump is falling for Russian disinformation. Like, what kind of an idiot is this guy? Well, he's worried sick. So he cut out. Well, he cut out of the payoff. By the way, I hear that the U .S. has halted all weapon sales to Ukraine. This is coming from inside Ukraine. I mean, the ammo is a big problem. Yeah, well, that's what's going to happen.

Yes. We just can't keep, you know, we're not going to just weaken ourselves to an extreme by just propping up Ukraine and when it seems to be like just part of a corrupt money laundering operation from the looks of it. That's not true, man, because all that money went to U.S. contractors. Yeah, sure it did. So here we go with part two. President Trump took to social media on Wednesday addressing Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.

Trump wrote that a modestly successful comedian, Volodymyr Zelensky, talked the United States of America into spending $350 billion. On top of this, Zelensky admits that half of the money we sent him is missing. Trump also called Zelensky a dictator without elections. Zelensky better move fast or he's not going to have a country left. Man, he's channeling Schwarzenegger here. He better move fast. Otherwise, he won't have to listen to this.

Zelensky better move fast or he's not going to have a country left. The fast. That's how Schwarzenegger would say it. I never thought of him sounding like Schwarzenegger. As you mentioned it, I'm going to have to be hearing that forever. Yeah, you're welcome. Because of the ongoing fighting in Ukraine, the country skipped its presidential elections after Zelensky's term expired. On Tuesday night, a reporter asked Trump if Ukraine should hold presidential elections.

Where the leader in Ukraine, I mean, I hate to say it, but he's down at 4% approval rating. Wouldn't the people of Ukraine have to say like, you know, it's been a long time since we've had an election? On Wednesday, Zelensky responded to Trump's comments. Since we are talking about 4%, we have seen this disinformation. We understand that this is coming from Russia. These numbers are being discussed between America and Russia.

Zelensky added that Trump is living, quote, in a Russian disinformation space. But Trump says that the need for elections in Ukraine is not coming from Russia, but rather from the people of Ukraine and other allied countries. That's really interesting how that was the next talking point. Oh, Bill, his fee is 50% according to some agency in Ukraine. Whatever. Did you hear Trump on Air Force One talking about, because he sent over Besant. He sent Besant over to collect the minerals with a big bag.

Our treasury secretary went with a big satchel. Like, I'm here to collect the minerals. Let me see if you can hear this. It was on Air Force One, so the audio is not great. Can you hear this okay? Yeah, not really. It's easier for you to summarize. Well, okay. Essentially, they told him, no, Zelensky was sleeping and unavailable. So they sent Scott Besant to do the deal for the rare earth minerals. And they said, no, Zelensky can't meet with you. He's sleeping.

And then, and I want to get to your anal clips in a moment. Now, now I keep hearing out of Europe, Europe is putting together a package of 735 billion dollars or euros, almost the same these days, to help Ukraine to get them to, you know, to be in a position of strength. And I'm like, where is this money coming from? Who has 735 billion euros in Europe to give to Ukraine? And how will the EU citizens feel about that? And of course, then we got France 24 explaining it to me.

European and Ukrainian leaders obviously very unhappy with the Trump administration's plan to negotiate bilaterally with Russia on ending the war without input from Brussels or Kyiv. As Trump is clearly looking to end US financing for Ukraine's war effort, Kyiv has been pushing the idea of using frozen Russian assets to replace that funding.

Roughly $300 billion worth of securities and cash have been frozen in the European asset clearinghouse Euroclear following Russia's 2022 invasion, most of those assets belonging to Russia's central bank. Some $50 billion in profits and interest from that capital have already been seized and funneled to Ukraine in the form of loans. The US and the UK had previously suggested seizing the entire pile outright.

That idea, though, faced resistance at the time from European economic powers, notably France and Germany, who feared that it would set a dangerous precedent that could eventually destabilize the euro currency. In the current context, though, EU leaders appear increasingly open to the idea. Here's Finland's president this weekend. The first phase is the pre-negotiation.

And this is the moment when we need to rearm Ukraine and put maximum pressure on Russia, which means sanctions, which means frozen assets so that Ukraine begins these negotiations from a position of strength. Oh, Finland, you're getting roped into something you don't want to be in. This this crazy idea, it was already sketchy. I'll say sketchy of them to take the 50 billion of interest as a loan. Don't worry, by the way, I think we were in the middle of that deal.

And now they want to take the three, 300, 350 billion. Just steal it. Steal it. That's a bad idea, supply. It's a bad idea. Yeah, you lose all confidence in the entire European banking system. The whole system. Yeah, you can't do that. And so it collapsed. I mean, it's already, somebody's already done the numbers on this. The Russian economy is not doing that bad.

In fact, it's doing quite well compared to the EU, which is doing poorly ever since the EU really started, you know, getting cranked up in the early 2000s. Their economy has grown at half the rate of ours. Yes. They're in really big trouble. The EU is just screwed. And this is not going to help. By the way, I got a note from Rich. He lives in the EU and he says, you know, your show saved me back in 2015 during the big the first big European migration crisis.

At the time, the media was showing awful images of dead kids being washed up on beaches. Remember this? Oh, yeah. Hey, can you move that dead kid over a little bit to the left so I can get a better shot? Exactly. He says, you know, you guys really saved me. But on the last show, I've been feeling very depressed. You were talking about Europe going to hell. And John was just casually talking about the hundred years war being the norm. Looming war is a mainstream media talking point.

I was hoping for something a bit more reassuring from no agenda. I'm sorry. Well, I don't I don't think there'll be a hundred years war, but. Oh, but is that no, but it is kind of the the or the Europeans have been having these fights. They can't seem to stop and they just keep wanting to go over the abyss. I mean, there's just nothing we can do about it. I think we've got to cut them loose. I'm sorry to our rich, rich, to rich, to rich. You'll be OK. Not you may just be aware.

OK, well, you'll be OK. Just look at the ground. It will all go away. Don't look at anybody in the eye. It will all go away. Let's go to the now. Well, before we go to the analysis, let's play a little NPR, not an NPR, yeah, an NPR clip. This is the I thought it might fit in there. This is the Russian the Russian normalized NATO clip. As President Trump thaws U.S. diplomatic relations with Russia, he is trading blows with Ukraine.

Nearly three years after his country was invaded by Russian forces, President Volodymyr Zelensky criticized Trump for falsely blaming the hostilities on Ukraine. Covering the Kremlin, NPR's Charles Maines reports the Russian government says Moscow and Washington are on their way toward normalizing relations.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov briefing Russian lawmakers on the talks praised President Trump as the first Western leader to publicly acknowledge the prospect of NATO expansion into Ukraine as a major cause of the war. Lavrov said there was now a shared desire not only to end that conflict, but possibly work with the U.S. to develop new trade and geopolitical partnerships.

To do that, Lavrov said both sides first had to, quote, clean up Biden administration efforts to undermine relations. The Biden White House sought to isolate Russia over its invasion of its neighbor. In contrast, President Trump has said he wants to work with Russia to end the war unnerving Ukraine and traditional U.S. allies in Europe. Okay. All right. So that's a little different than the Biden approach. Yes, yes. I have some analysis too. So let's get your anal clips.

Okay. These are the analysis clips. How does President Trump... I'm sorry. As you keep referring to them as anal... Because they are literally titled anal in all caps, because analysis is too tedious for you to write. Oh, it's so many letters. How does President Trump's foreign policy on China relate to the current peace negotiations with Russia? And how does the policy of the second Trump administration compare to that of the first?

Joining us now to dive into these issues is Grant Newsham, senior fellow at the Japan Forum for Strategic Studies and retired Marine Colonel. Grant, thank you so much for joining us. Good to see you again. Lots of headlines and raised eyebrows about President Trump's way of negotiating to end the Russia -Ukraine war. Given Trump's business background, is his foreign policy transactional or is there a diplomatic element here? Well, I think every foreign policy is transactional.

The Americans do something because they want the other side to do something for them. Wow. This is deep. It's called a negotiation. Oh, very interesting. It doesn't matter which president it is. Diplomacy comes in different forms. Sometimes it's very placid, takes place behind closed doors. Other times it can be more out in the open. And that's what we're seeing right now with Mr. Trump. So as I said, it's always transactional. We want something.

In this case, the administration wants the war to end so it can focus on the Pacific, focus on China. In terms of how it's conducted, well, every administration, every president has their style. And I think we're seeing Mr. Trump's style on display. And what do you make of the backlash President Trump is facing for calling Zelensky a dictator without elections as negotiations for the end of the war continue?

It's not unusual for two sides, even allies or partners, to have some pretty sort of raucous disputes. It is a little unusual to have them take place in public. Usually these things are hashed out behind closed doors. So we are seeing something that we usually don't see. But it is, as I say, it's not the usual way that such talks take place. But maybe we shouldn't be too surprised. Not the usual way. This is Doge body cam, baby. Is there any difference? No, I don't think so.

This guy's one of those precise talkers. Yes, I had noticed that. And the little, when he says little. Little, yes. All right. Yeah, this is not the best analysis clips I've had. No. But there's a couple of just minor points that it's worth at least people should listen to. And zooming out a bit here, what would the end of the Russia-Ukraine war mean for a country like China? Well, China is watching very closely. And if they think that Putin has come out of the Ukraine war ahead.

Then we can do the same. That it's been worthwhile for him to have done it. That they, I think, will be encouraged to make a move in their territory against Taiwan, Philippines, elsewhere. But they are watching very closely. So that is something that you do have to watch. Can Putin argue at the end of this, look, I got what I wanted. The cost was, yeah, it was high, maybe. But it was worth it.

And you just might have Xi Jinping say, well, if Putin could do it, and he only had half a million casualties, well, I can handle that. And Taiwan is just so juicy. That he might be tempted to make a move. So you do have to watch this very closely. And it would be nice if this ended with Mr. Putin, sort of being sort of as humiliated as we were when we ran out of Afghanistan. But I'm not so sure how you would actually pull that off. But this is certainly important.

And whatever happens in Ukraine, there's going to be a direct result one way or the other in the Pacific, in Asia. Wow. This guy is running through the talking points. Yeah, yeah. I'm not going to argue with you. Let's let him wrap. Now, when it comes to President Trump's China strategy for this term, how do you view it compared to his first? Is this a continuation, an expansion or something entirely different? It will be different, but I think it will generally be the same or similar.

I put it that way. Genuinely. His first administration, they've had the best lineup for dealing with China that any administration has ever had, with fellows like Matt Pottinger, Miles Yu, Mike Pompeo, Dave Stilwell. That was a rare alignment. This time around, it remains to be seen. It's only been 30 days or so that the administration's been in place. So we don't quite know exactly who's going to be in it and also what the policy is going to be.

I think it is going to be a confrontational towards China. And in that sense, it will be a continuation of the first Trump administration. This guy is just vying for a job for when something goes down with China. He can come back on NTD and talk some more. Oh, yeah, it's going to be China. I told you so. I think Mr. Trump probably knows he got burned several times by the Chinese. I don't think he'll plan to have that happen again.

And I would note that Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State, Mike Waltz, his national security advisor, and even Pete Hicks at the Department of Defense, these people are very good on China. They know the threat that comes from the CCP and want to do something about it. And then you have other people who will fill out the administration's team and they will have different views.

Some of them thinking that there is actually an accommodation to be made with the Chinese Communist Party and that we can reach a certain detente. I don't think that's possible, but there are some people who think that. And then there's others who just want an all out effort to bring down the Chinese Communist Party. And then there's others who are just surprisingly appeasers. So you get a mix, but it remains to be seen exactly how this turns out finally.

But I think Mr. Trump learned some lessons in his first time around, and he's not likely to make those mistakes again. So one can be cautiously optimistic. Yeah, this is whatever happened to Russia. It's our worst enemies. This is our true adversary. Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, China, China, China. You're a little early on the pivot, bro. I have some, I think, good analysis. I've played this. Yes, stand by. This comes from Canada. I mean, even more.

Oh, this guy is good. I've played him before. He's a retired national defense dude for Candanavia, Andrew Rasulis, Rasulis, Rasulis, I think is how you pronounce it. And he gives a much more accurate picture. First of all, this whole, this whole, the whole background to it has to be put into proper context of how we even got here. And I think he does a good job.

Let me make a start by asking you of how things are playing out, especially between the United States, Donald Trump and Ukraine's Zelensky. You know, it's sort of a war of words that's broken out between them.

The latest war of words is about the fact that what Trump is suggesting is that if the Ukrainians had implemented the Minsk two agreements, which were signed in 2015, and had they implemented them, the suggestion is the Russians would have had no reason to attack since they would have gotten a neutral Ukrainian buffer zone from that deal. So he's blaming Ukrainians for not implementing that deal on the popularity ratings.

I mean, that's a bit of an issue because he says there are 4% and most figures say a 50%. So that's just an off the wall thing. Exactly. So yes, that's exactly right. Ukraine did not adhere to the agreement, the Minsk two accord. And they were invited to Saudi Arabia, by the way. Let's talk about Ukraine actually being left out from the first round of talks itself between United States and Russia. And of course, we've seen how there was an emergency meeting held in Europe in regards with that.

And then Zelensky also meeting with Turkey. Your take on how this is playing out in terms of ending the war? Well, the Americans really want to push this, which is why they're trying to keep it really to the combatants or the protagonists, Russia, Ukraine, and the United States as a broker. And that's a key difference from Biden and where they were doing having Ukrainians push it. And then, as Trump says, will take three years and got nowhere.

So that's a major change in how they're going to make the deal. And the Americans want to drive this home. The Americans are also looking at their bilateral relationship with Russia and not related necessarily just to Ukraine. Now, with the Ukrainians, Trump is saying, you know, they're going to bring them in and they offer them, you know, depending what you read, Ukrainians were offered to be at the table in Saudi Arabia, but they refused to do that. So take your story on that one.

But yes, behind the scenes, there's a lot going on. In fact, today in public, Kellogg, Trump's envoy, is arriving in Kiev to talk to Zelensky. So that shows a continual dialogue that is actually taking place. Exactly. And then finally, what is what is this? This is yes. What's realistically on the table? What will actually go down? I think this guy has it right. Let's talk about the concessions here. What's your understanding?

The manner in which it's playing out, the fact that we're seeing how Ukraine will not be a part of NATO, as we have heard, is a victory of sorts for Vladimir Putin. And then we have the regions of Luhansk and Donetsk. We've had people from Trump administration saying that Ukraine should forget about returning to its original borders. Do you see a victory after victory coming in for Putin in that regard? Well, I mean, Putin is going to get something from this.

And we and Rubio says all options are on the table now. These are early days of a negotiating process. And I caution that. So I personally don't take anything off the table as of now. But given the let's say the trend line, if you will. Yes, the territorial side of the equation, in all probability, Russia will walk away with most, if not all of what it holds. And for Russia, Crimea and the land bridge to Crimea from Russia proper is absolutely key.

And that will be, I believe, a victory for Putin in that sense. Now, the other side of the equation, which is the guarantees, the NATO membership, really, that's we all know the official positions, the rhetoric, no NATO for Ukraine in terms of the Russians and so on. But I think we have to wait to see how things work out. There is a spectrum of security guarantees that could be negotiated for Ukraine.

And at this point, it's premature to really speculate on what those guarantees will be, even I would suggest on NATO membership. Yeah, I, I get the feeling that Trump's ultimate plan is dissolve NATO. And we will just offer security guarantees in return for things like no tariffs on our products or build, build in America, we'll protect you. You can trust us, don't worry.

There's also talk of the Mar-a-Lago Accords, which now, which I think is, I don't know if I was the first one to say it, but I hear it everywhere now, the Mar-a-Lago Accord, this is crazy, that in order to rejigger the financial system, America will offer security guarantees to countries who swap their current treasury bonds for long term, like 100 year, no coupon, so zero interest loans, which would be very interesting if that happened. Have you, have you heard about this?

No, those are two separate issues. I want to get back to the security thing. Well, no, it's connected. It's connected. That's why. Well, I suppose if you could, you could probably make it seem connected, but we're not doing that. We're not going to put, do security for Ukraine. They're going to, I think it's going to be the following. Okay. I think there may be some pullback on NATO. There's going to be a determination that Europe should be protecting Ukraine.

There'll be no NATO in Ukraine, but there'll be a security force provided by the Europeans who want to create an army anyway. And this could be their, their kind of prototype. And they could put their little soldiers in there to keep things in order. Their green army men? Their little green army men, gray. And we'll be divorced of the whole thing. This is costing us too much money.

In fact, the entire NATO experiment, if you look at the chart of how much money is being spent, we have essentially since World War II, this is not a protection treaty. This is a bribe. We have been, we have bought off the Europeans the way I see it. Bought off, we've just provided tens of hundreds of billions of dollars to Europe not to fight anymore. And we keep throwing money, don't fight anymore. Don't worry, we'll support this, we'll support that. And we, and we're getting sick of it.

I mean, it's just draining our economy. We have other things to deal with. And so the whole, all of South America's kind of lost to the Chinese as is Africa, because we're concentrating too much on bribing the Europeans not to fight. And that's all our money's been for. It's all that money in the Ukraine's the same thing. It's all just drain the United States Treasury to keep, to bribe the Europeans not to fight with each other. I think it's got to end.

They're going to either have to fight with, if they're going to want to, if there's nothing, the only reason they're not fighting is because we're giving them free money. It's ridiculous. Let them fight. Each other? They're going to have to, because they just try to keep us out of it. I mean, they keep dragging us. They dragged us into World War I because of the bankers. They tricked us into getting involved with that. Then they dragged us into World War II.

Oh, of course, we kind of, thanks to Roosevelt, we kind of put ourselves in that one. And they're still hating each other. And then they're blaming, and the Russians who stopped that war, really, who are allies, they were part of the allies, even though they were communists trying to take over everything. This bribery, this is just extortion. Do you remember when we said, where are all the German podcasts? Yes, you've said that a number of times.

Well, I got a reply from our man, Frank, on the ground, and it's worse than I thought. And it's related to this. The biggest German podcast is called Kontrafunk. Kontrafunk. Kontrafunk. Kontrafunk. They are a 24-7 streaming station with podcasts, consisting mainly of former public radio journalists who were fed up or got fired for not playing ball, and they've gone to Switzerland.

All these podcasts, like Nacht des Niveaux, Paul Brandenburg runs that also in Switzerland, they all had to go to Switzerland. And after seeing the 60 Minutes piece on German censorship... I have clips. I have clips too. I'm happy to play your clips. Well, these are clips that they were done so well by Jesse Waters, even though he did have to do the normal cutting back on his such type. Can we just play the... Okay. I think they're incorporated very well in this series. All right, all right.

Then you can do an addendum if you think the clips are weak. Why just Jesse Waters? It just irks him. Well, I'm sorry, this will be the last time. I'm now banning him. Instead of defending the taxpayers, the media is defending the government. Here's 60 Minutes. People are really scared. I think that, you know, 12 days ago, people knew where their next paycheck was coming from. They knew how they were... I'm sorry, that's wrong one. You have more than... That's the right one.

It leads into the German stuff. It's a four-parter. Okay. 60 Minutes? You don't have to do a teenage sigh. I'll just have an apple in my room. People are really scared. I think that, you know, 12 days ago, people knew where their next paycheck was coming from. They knew how they were... Wait a minute. Back off. Stop. What? Is that some reference? An apple in my room? Okay. This is Aunt Gigi. I've told you about Aunt Gigi.

Aunt Gigi, who was my mom's aunt, she would, whenever she was upset about something, she would do the Gigi sigh. It's a big thing in our family. Yeah, you do it. And here it is. Okay. I'll just have an apple in my room then. That's what Aunt Gigi would say when she was on the losing side of an argument. Wow. They're going to pay for their kids' daycare, their medical bills, and then all gone overnight.

All gone overnight for Christina Drei and Adam DuBard, fired this month in the chaotic shutdown of foreign aid. They're not looking for competency. They're not looking for if you're good at your job. They're looking for pure loyalty tests. And if you don't give it, you will be punished. There was no process. No one explained to them why they were being relieved. To my knowledge, they received an email. And then if they didn't leave the building, they were escorted out of the building.

These people got generous buyouts, eight-month severance. I'm sorry, but did CVS interview the fired Keystone Pipeline workers, the fired Army officers who refused the needle, or black Americans who lost their job to migrants? No. That one lady was Samantha Powers' speechwriter. She's no random civil servant. She's the top flack for the USAID chief. Funny. I had that clip, too. Only I had the original, and I could have been Jesse Waters.

But no, why don't you just have no agenda with John C. Dvorak and Jesse Waters. It's J&J, everybody. If I could make half his salary, I'd do it. Okay. This woman did show up before, and I was trying to get the clip for the last show, and he found it. It's so poorly done that I ran it through Adobe, and you can kind of understand it. But this woman, since then, it turns out she works for some PR agency. She's a phony. But she was also spotted earlier. Walt Waters brings this out in the next clip.

Just last week, this same lady told ABC she was pocketing her pride flags. The networks are using the same victim over and over. Bush was in the building. We took down our pride flags. I took out any books I felt would be incriminating. No one was talking. We heard they started taking transcripts automatically of all of our Google Meets. They unplugged the news in the little kitchen galleys. It didn't feel good.

And then Saturday, all of the websites went down, and then I lost complete access to my computer. 60 Minutes is CBS's premier investigative unit, and they never mentioned the $20 million for Iraqi Sesame Street, or sex changes in Guatemala, or DEI operas, or all the dough spent on failed coups. Never mentioned it. We're $36 trillion in debt. We're cutting headcount, just like media organizations do to balance their books, just like Clinton and Gore did. Yeah. He did it again. Yes. On the clip.

I'm more interested in your analysis, not Jesse Water's sniping. I didn't get there. I don't need to sound like him. Well, you spent a lot of time editing him out, so I will give you that. Last week, Vance was in Germany and told the chancellor to knock off the censorship and step up their NATO spending. And the American media sided with the Germans and called Vance Hitler. He was standing in a country where free speech was weaponized to conduct a genocide.

And he met with the head of a political party that has far right views and some historic ties to extreme groups. The context of that was changing the tone of it. And you know that, that the censorship was specifically about the right. I have to disagree with you. Free speech was not used to conduct a genocide.

The genocide was conducted by an authoritarian Nazi regime that happened to also be genocidal because they hated Jews and they hated minorities and they hated those that they had a list of people they hated, but primarily the Jews. There was no free speech in Nazi Germany. There was none. It was illegal to criticize the Nazi government. It was against the law to tell a joke about Hitler and he had a dumb mustache and one testicle. Couldn't joke about it. Newspapers were shut down.

Books were burned. Radio stations were censored. Free speech didn't trigger the Holocaust. Okay, that was funny. Yeah, I knew that. I forgot about Hitler's one ball. I forgot one ball Hitler. I have the book. I was Hitler's doctor, which discusses the one ball. That has to be a noagendafund.com, another no agenda book recommendation. I don't know if you can find it. It's a very collectible book. And here's the final clip where they go collectible. That's me. You know, I'm the collector.

You're a collector. I know. And so this is where he wraps it up and brings in the clip that you wanted to hear. On the same day, CBS celebrated an armed raid in Germany because a guy posted a cartoon. It's 601 on a Tuesday morning and we were with state police as they raided this apartment in Northwest Germany. Inside, six armed officers searched the suspect's home, then seized his and cell phone. Prosecutors say those electronics may have been used to commit a crime.

The crime, posting a racist cartoon online. And it's a crime to insult them online as well? Yes. If somebody posts something that's not true and then somebody else reposts it or likes it, are they committing a crime? In the case of reposting, it is a crime as well because the reader can't distinguish whether you just invented this or just reposted it. Germany is letting migrants into the country who are committing gang rape and they have cops kicking down doors over a cartoon.

CBS is defending Germany. Yeah, I don't have to play the other clips. People can listen to them in the show notes. But yes, I had no idea, no idea that Germany was that crazy about it. I thought it was only the UK, but the Germans are equally, if not just worse with, oh, if you offend somebody, certainly if it's a politician, you can get a 3 ,000-euro fine. They knock on your door at six in the morning. What? I was unaware of this. I was too.

And I got a DM from one of our German producers who was... Did he send you a copy of the cartoon? Because I can't find it. A DM? What does that have to do with a cartoon? Well, I mean, I got the phone ringing now. Yeah, yeah. Well, I'll read... Yeah, I'm right here with the phone so I can do it. Hello? Put it up to the mic. It was here. Ah, hold on a second. Let me open it up. Here we go. I'm sorry, what? Hello? My name is Joe. Joe? Joe. Yeah, okay. He's working with... Yeah, go on.

Put it closer. What? Yeah, what's your purpose of calling? Hold on. Oh. Oh, I owe your social security benefits. Okay, send it away. Thanks. I appreciate it. You really need a phone patch, man. I do. That was a good one. It would have been great. It would have been great for the show. He's going to give me some free money. Ah, I can't believe it. Adam, you have no idea.

There's an election campaign in Germany sponsored by the Initiative der Deutsche Privatradios, Podcasts und Streams, which are all government-approved, tax-funded podcasts. So there's podcasts, but they're all government-approved podcasts. That's not why we invented podcasting, people. Wow, that's bad. I had... This is actually kind of mind-blowing. I was actually surprised by it. If it wasn't for the...

Not 60 Minutes, but that other report where they busted into the guy's house and CBS played it straight. So you think that's a crime? Yeah, it's a crime. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's a crime. And nobody pushed back and said, this is crazy. And that one... The one prosecutor, she was kind of cute, young. No, CBS did not push back, did not say, this is crazy. And as a small point of contention, it's not free speech. People have to stop saying that. It's freedom of speech. Have you noticed this?

That it's coming into... Well, it's free speech. Well, speech is free, but it's freedom of speech. I don't know why it irks me, but it does. It does. I don't know why it irks you. Wait, wait. No, no, you have to... You have to do a clicking sound. I can't do a clicking. Like that? Yeah. And then followed by, I'll just have an apple in my room. I'll just have a... That's the silliest thing ever. It depends on Gigi. She was the best. Well, another prediction comes true. The pivot is here.

I've been waiting for it. And once again, I am right. The pivot from AI to quantum computing. Microsoft says it has created a new chip that shows quantum computing is much closer than recently believed. Quantum computers hold the promise of carrying out calculations that would take today's systems millions of years. But the fundamental building block of quantum computers, called a qubit, is extremely difficult to control and prone to errors. Get control it!

Maya Rana-1 chip is less prone to those errors than rivals, providing as proof a scientific paper set to be published in academic journal Nature. The chip has been in the works for nearly two decades and has a new type of material. This is Microsoft's Chetan Nayak in a video provided by the company. It's called a topological superconductor or topoconductor for short. Topoconductor! And this is something that people have hypothesized for decades.

But no one had really reliably created this in the laboratory or been able to harness it for quantum information processing. Google last year showed off its own new quantum chip, saying that commercial applications are only five years away. IBM said large scale quantum computers will be online by 2033. Microsoft did not give a timeline for when its chip would be scaled up to quantum computers that can outpace today's machines.

But in a blog post, the company said it would be, quote, years, not decades. And we go to our resident computer expert, John C. Dvorak, to tell us about the future of quantum computing. John. They can't get it to work. Why is Microsoft saying that it's only a few years away? They've picked up the strategy from, you know, you're not in the news cycle anymore. You pick up the strategy from IBM.

You make some sort of statement because everyone's jacked about, oh, quantum computing, quantum computing. I had almost had a clip. What was this? I can't remember what the source was, but it was something. It was either on Fox or one of these networks. And someone said, well, oh, yeah, it was Harrison Faulkner, that black woman on the outnumbered show. She said, well, the things will be different when we get quantum computing. She says out of the blue.

She brings she doesn't know quantum computing from a hole in the wall. Neither does anybody else. Why would you bring it up? Because it's the pivot, because we have a problem. A.I. What's the problem? A.I. sucks. It's not it's not delivering. Well, for what it does, it does a very, very fine job on both sides. Yeah, but it's losing money. This is the problem. Well, there is that it's losing. We're not talking about that. You know, I want to I put it in the show now, so I'm not going to read it.

But one of our machine learning. Yeah, that's you know, I'm all in machine learning. If you want to call that A.I. OK, machine learning is a real thing. It's been around for a long time. It does. And before it was A.I., it was machine learning. It was machine learning. Yes, machine learning. Oh, now it's called A.I. And it's called A.G.I., which is a general intelligence or generative intelligence. We have a super intelligence. They're always coming with something new.

Oh, we put the quantum computing and Bitcoin will be broken. This this producer said if, if, if, if it ever gets to artificial general intelligence, he said it will probably be like data on Star Trek and completely autistic. And I think that's probably true. That will be the level of A.I. that we're going to get. And so this is just the new shiny toy. And I think Microsoft, they did something. Yeah, you're right. They saw a marketing opportunity. And they jumped on it.

And it's also cool because, you know, you get to say, well, you know, these things, they have to be so. And you get to say the word qubits. Qubits, yes. This is a good tip, by the way. You've done this a little early for the tip of the day. If you want to look smart in the bar around the ladies, just say, I'm working on the qubits in quantum computing. Yeah, they'll flock to you, these girls. The girls love the Qubit. Tell me more. The Qubit talk is very successful. I guarantee it.

Now, I and Microsoft has a pretty good. How are they marketing wise, do you think? Do you think they can pick this ball and make it run? And because, you know, they were, they're basically. You'll never hear another word. Really? You think this is just a one and done? They're not going to pick it. I mean, everyone on CNBC is all Microsoft. How's it going to affect? Nobody. I love the Qubits. And once come on, well, you know, quantum computing is a marriage.

And what it can do is it gets all as well as a subzero temperatures and bizarre. It's great. The Qubits, and it doesn't do one. So here's just one zero at the same time. Times four. It's four times. Bitcoin is going to break. It always ends with that. I saw Scott Adams post the other day. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we have to, you're not doing it right. You have to get it. It's more of a release, like, like, let your whole body just go. I'm trying to get working on it.

You're leaving out the last gasp, you know, that's almost dead. And then that's my, my version of it is this. It's not good. It's not good enough. And this is, and I need to say something about this. Well, let me, let me set it up with a clip because we did have an interesting aviation incident. This video shows passengers evacuating from their plane after a crash landed and flipped upside down at Toronto's Pearson Airport.

As we made our touchdown, it was just a very forceful event where all of a sudden everything just kind of went sideways. And then the next thing I know is kind of a blink and I'm upside down, still strapped in. Everyone on that plane suddenly became very close in terms of how to help one another, how to console one another. And, and that was powerful. The aircraft came down fast, landing so hard that it lost its right wing, then burst into flames on the runway.

By some miracle, no one was killed, while 21 were injured. It's really important to recognize how grateful we are that there was no loss of life or life-threatening injuries in yesterday's accident. The airport CEO said that their two longest runways remained closed as investigators examined the aircraft on site to try to determine what caused the accident. It's possible wintry weather conditions may have played a part.

After days of record snowfall, the airport was experiencing blowing snow and gusts of 65 kilometers an hour at the time of the crash. Questions also remain as to why the plane is missing its right wing. So, I don't know. I don't think the pilot's identity has been released yet. Yes, because Endeavor Airlines or Endeavor, the company that runs that particular series of planes, supposedly is all DEI women. Okay, so that's exactly the point that I want to push back against.

They have a marketing video and it's like, we're unmanned, we're all women, and they got the hottest chicks who I doubt are pilots. Oh, yeah. Have you seen the video? I saw the video. I didn't see they were that hot. Well, trust me. Except there's a fat guy in there at the end. Okay, so they're marketing. This is you. I didn't realize that you just do this constantly. Every time anyone says anything, you do that noise. It's a curry thing.

But you could follow up by saying, I'll just have a persimmon in my room or something like that. Persimmons are delicious. They are, if they're mushy. Okay, so that was... No, the hard ones I like too. So that was their marketing. The pilot on the radio, I don't know if that was the pilot in command, was a guy, was a man who sounded very, very authoritative as they were coming in for the landing. But, you know, not every crash is like... Our whole airlines are not staffed with only DEI.

It's become a little annoying. I have flown with many women. I've had one of my instructors was a woman and I... Some people believe that women are better pilots because they have a lighter touch and they don't try to force things. I don't know about that. I see no difference. I've been in very, very poor conditions. Flying with a female instructor, I was very impressed. There's no difference except... And by the way, Abby was like 5 '1". She had to sit on a cushion and she is a fantastic pilot.

She's now actually at a regional airline. She got scooped away. Who's Abby? She was my instructor here when I'm flying the Cirrus planes. So it's just bullcrap. Was there a problem for white straight men getting a job? Yes, absolutely. That doesn't mean that all pilots suck. And so before I get to the accident itself, which everyone is just speculating based upon a video, which is a pretty decent video of the crash.

The people who need to be celebrated in this case, at least one but probably two women, are the flight attendants. This is what people are missing in this whole thing. This plane is upside down. You don't know if it's going to burst into flames. These flight attendants are helping people get out of the plane. They probably help people unbuckle who are hanging upside down. These are the real heroes here that no one ever talks about. And that's what they're trained to do.

They are not just there to serve you your Sprite or your coffee. They are there for your safety. And I think they performed very well. That one video, some guys like, oh yeah, I better film this while I'm getting out of the crashed airplane. Okay, that tells you a lot about our society. But there's the flight attendant standing right there, helping everybody get out. Those people, you must thank your flight attendants. So we don't know exactly what happened. Breaking news, nobody knows anything.

It does look like the plane had a hard landing. We'll get all the details once we have all the flight data recorded in the cockpit voice recorder. It could be that it was so hard that the landing gear collapsed. Because what ultimately happened is the right wing touched the ground, dug into the ground, which was mainly snow covered. It could have also been that there was a bank of snow on the right. These are pretty low, low wings on the on the right.

The CRJ and that the hard landing, you know, the wings are flexible. Boom, hit the ground. And of course, the reason why, you know, why it turned over is because that right wing got ripped off, which was good because all the explosion happened behind the plane as it's moving forward. The left wing still has lift, flips it over. And that was also good, really, because the fuselage didn't have time to break apart because the tail then becomes an anchor.

And I mean, you walk away from it, great landing. So we don't know exactly what happened. It could be mechanical with the gear to everybody I know and myself. It looked like that was a hard landing. There was no flare, which is when you pull back just before you land. Could it have been a wind gust that stopped all of a sudden? We don't know at this moment. We don't know. You caught me flat footed on the last show. About what? About the multiplex of aviation communications.

You really caught me off guard. I'm like, wow. And we don't have to. I got nothing but notes about this. And the whole thing boils down to one letter that came in from one of our guys, one of our producers that said, look, yeah, it's doable if you want to drop billions of dollars into rejiggering the whole system to an extreme. It's not worth it. Because and I had to agree. And I said, well, you know, these incidents, these have duplex incidents are so as a problem.

Once the last does it happen all the time? No, it happened this one time, maybe. And it was just like part of a larger complex of problems. OK, I bail on the whole thing. There was just one other point that as I thought about it, which I must have gotten 20 emails I mean, I am always blown away by the level of expertise in every area. It's pretty funny, actually. You know what's funny? Let me just just interrupt you for a second here.

It's really amazing to me the kind of expertise and the experiences we have as a general audience and so far as our producers are concerned. But yet I can't get a sweatshirt or a hoodie from Ohio State. A fan of the football team that won the national championship. Instead, I got a bib from one of the producers who sent a baby bib of Ohio State baby bib. That should tell you when I was when I was at over at Twit Twit, they would get plenty of sweatshirts from people.

But no, all we have, we have a lot of experts, but nobody that seems to have a degree from Ohio State. Well, there you go. I'll call JD. Maybe JD Vance can help you out. The one thing I wanted to add to it is that in the current system, because it is half duplex and when you key up, you know, no one no one else can talk basically. Well, they can, but then no one hears anything. It has created a very strict protocol of waiting your turn.

And because you're listening much better and it's not digital, it's analog. So, you know, some guys like this, you know, you're really listening much better. You have a much better overall situational awareness. I mean, what you're basically saying or what you questioned would be the equivalent of a party line. If it was a party line, anybody could just talk up whenever they wanted to. It would be a complete mess. There'd be no procedural discipline.

And also add to that that one frequency like this, one frequency here at our airport in Gillespie, that's used for three other airports around. And so, you know, you would be confused. I said, wait a minute. If you're just coming in loud and clear and everybody's everybody's full duplex, it could be very, it could be much more dangerous. So, but you did it. You caught me flat footed. I was, I was like, holy crap. I had never thought about this. No, you're not doing it right.

By the way, anonymous air traffic controller says, I am so happy Doge is getting into the FAA. He says, thank goodness. He says the union is the problem. The union boondogglers and union leadership officials and local and national positions are terrified of being forced back into the facility to actually work as controllers. There's a whole layer of middle management that does nothing. As you know that, yeah, I don't have any, a lot of clips.

There's a couple of the super clips about this where they blame Trump for this wreck. Oh, yeah, of course. Yeah. And so I do have at least one thing that kind of incorporates what you just said, which is the Gail King on, on the morning show. She's, she goes out, she uses this thesis against, and she's got the Delta CEO on who explained something to her. And this is a clip Delta CEO versus Gail King. No, the Trump administration recently fired many employees of the FAA administration.

Do those cuts, do those cuts worry you? And do you think that impacts the safety? I know you just said it's the safest way to travel. But after looking at all these mishaps, a lot of people are very nervous. Do these cuts affect you? The cuts do not affect us, Gail. I've been in close communication with the secretary of transportation. I understand that the cuts at this time are something that are raising questions.

But the reality is there's over 50,000 people that work at the FAA and the cuts, I understand, were 300 people and they were in non-critical safety functions. The Trump administration has committed to investing deeply in terms of improving the overall technologies that are used in the air traffic control systems and modernizing the skies. They've committed to hiring additional controllers and investigators and safety investigators. So no, I'm not concerned with that at all. Completely true.

And what the anonymous controller said, what would really improve the air traffic system is two things, weather radar and communication lines. These two systems are from the 60s. Weather radar is so delayed that what air traffic depicts is sometimes not even relatively close to what pilots see on their iPads. And then the systems go down, they have to call in, they have to dial in eight digit numbers to reconnect. So they're actually working with very outdated radar technology.

That's something that could be easily upgraded. So there was some interesting news that came out that Alex Berenson was all just going nuts about. Nuts! Top Yale scientists have found T-cell exhaustion and prolonged spike protein production in some COVID vaccine recipients. And they are saying that, well, it looks like these people have HIV virus, which I'm pretty sure we talked about on the show was actually found in these vaccines. This was the French Nobel Prize guy that brought it up.

When he first looked at the breakdown of the genetics of the COVID itself, he saw it in there and he thought that maybe this was part of a system that was going to be used as a way of vaccinating against HIV. And that's why it was hanging in there. Well, so now what's happening, and it's very obvious, Deborah Birx, Rear Admiral Birx, is out on a PR tour.

Yeah. And her whole, as far as I can tell, her mission is one thing, is to say it's long COVID and to steer you away from noticing that long COVID may in fact be a vaccine injury and may in fact be not that you have full blown AIDS, but that your immune system is weakened by the insertion of the HIV virus. Here she is with the Cuomo kid. Comparisons to HIV. You've done a ton of research in this. He's read in, by the way.

There's no there's no reason that he starts off by saying, well, comparisons to HIV. What? Comparisons to HIV. You've done a ton of research in this. Do you believe this is a false flag? Is there something that contextually people need to understand about that comparison? Or is this much darker a potential reality than we knew? The reason the comparison to HIV is important is because HIV was also asymptomatic.

I mean, you couldn't see the virus through symptoms because people were infected for seven, eight, nine years before they developed symptoms. No, no. You killed them with your interferon rejected cancer drug. That's what happened, allegedly. But HIV quietly destroyed our immune system. And we learned a lot about immunology from HIV. And it's changed completely our cancer therapy. Thank you. Klipkosodium AZT. Yes, we're learning now about mitochondria and viral impact and brain fog.

And the changes in our neurons and the cells that nourish our neurons that really allow us to think and move. And we're learning that because of what COVID has done. And so there's two sides of this coin every time. There's a lot of destruction that mild and moderate COVID can do that is on scene, just like HIV was destroying our immune system. But what came out of that is brilliant science that changed how we treated HIV.

And if you're diagnosed today, you can live a very normal lifespan and people not only survive, but thrive. We need to get to the place where people with long COVID, we've done the research so that people with long COVID can not only survive, but thrive. I mean, she's literally saying you've got HIV, which, by the way, HIV, there was no reason for it to kill people.

But with full development of AIDS, in my opinion, I'm not a scientist, but I saw a lot of people die after they went into the hospital after a PCR test for the equivalent with AIDS. And it was staring us in the face the whole time. She and Fauci were the AIDS team together. And now she's out and you're going to see it. It's they're going to say, well, it's, you know, long COVID is kind of like HIV. It's the same.

It may be actual HIV does not mean you're going to die, does not have to mean that at all. That was, in my opinion, one of the largest, horrible scams before COVID. And now here she is with the panel, although it's mainly her speaking in these clips on Pierce Morgan doing the same thing. I got to travel the country for many months during COVID working at the state level and the community level.

And what I witnessed was a lot of undiagnosed disease that could have been treated early that then resulted in COVID deaths. And I saw a health system that had completely deteriorated in our rural areas. Our rural areas really don't have access to health care anymore. And the hub and spoke model that we had set up to get really sick people into the regional medical centers, they were overwhelmed themselves.

So COVID pointed out a lot of our issues with chronic disease, like with early HIV, when we started, we were only treating those with symptoms. Well, that was the tip of the iceberg. When we finally started working and finding asymptomatic individuals and getting on getting them on treatment early before they had evidence of disease, they could thrive. Do you hear what she's doing? This is a setup. This is a huge setup to pivot.

To quantum computing, to pivot and say, well, it's just like HIV, but we'll give you this prep or whatever medicine they've got waiting in the wings is probably the same muck and you'll be able to thrive. Don't worry about it. We'll cure you of your long COVID. And oh, by the way, here she is lying, outright lying.

And what we've done wrong in public health is we didn't explain that COVID vaccines were nothing like the childhood vaccines and that the childhood vaccines, like many of the diseases, you get it once, you don't get it again, and this is getting the children to have that disease without getting the deadly consequences. Wow, boy, they may not have said it exactly like that, but they sure made it sound like that. What is your recollection, John? Well, a couple of things.

First of all, I don't subscribe necessarily to the fact that she's, that this is vaccine damage. JC, who had the original COVID, had long COVID and he never got a shot. So I'm not, and we know that the HIV was part of the COVID-19 genome itself. So I think there's some elements there that aren't being discussed or ignored. So I'm not convinced that this thesis of yours is completely correct. Now, what I do remember, though, is yes, they were totally on board with 100% effectiveness.

In fact, they jacked it up from like 80% effective to 90%. Then it was 100% safe and effective. They were injecting pregnant women. And they were injecting pregnant women, which should never have been done because it was emergency use authorization. It wasn't even a regular product. But now it was, it was, no, I'm not arguing that. That's for sure. I just don't know what this woman's up to. Well, listen, that is not what the COVID vaccine was designed to do.

It wasn't designed to prevent against infection. And if you look at the vaccine hesitancy rates, they've doubled since COVID. It wasn't designed to protect against infection. I'm sorry. Yeah, that's just a blatant lie. So we have to start addressing these things. It's a blatant lie. And Debra, let me ask you, let me ask you, Debra. I mean, given that you were the face of COVID. Play back her old clips. Yeah, exactly. The Trump presidency at the time.

Do you share, this doctor who I was with, do you share the concerns about the longer-term negative impact of some of the COVID vaccines? The messenger RNA vaccine should have been rolled out for the people that were at risk for severe disease, because that's what the vaccine was developed for. Oh, pregnant mothers. But when we say that we're following the science and the data, we need to follow the science and the data.

And the science and the data said people primarily over 65 or people with significant comorbidities were at risk for severe disease. Oh, it should have only, we only supposed to kill off old people. Got it. Those are the individuals that should have been immunized first. And we should have put our science behind our immunization schedule. You kept telling us it was the science. All I heard was follow the science. That's the science. The science is in. It's the science. Here, get a burger.

Get your shot. Follow the science. And protected those most at risk. It went into young people in hospitals before it went into our elderly and nursing homes. That is not following the science and the data. So I am all for following the science and the data. But it should just be a statement. It should be a reality. And when we don't match what we do in public health to the science and the data, that is when we get into trouble.

And that's when we start to fracture trust with the American people. Oh, man. I like the science and data. It's always the same science and data. You know, this reminds me of safe and effective. And the current one on the right, of course, is waste, fraud and abuse. Yes. It's not waste, abuse and fraud or fraud or just waste. It's waste, fraud and abuse. And they say it.

I mean, if someone wants to put a supercut together, you could have everybody on Fox and half the people on the other network saying waste, fraud and abuse as though it was a mantra. Yes, yes, that's true. I'm just very disturbed by this campaign she's on. And you're right. Why isn't Pierce playing a supercut of her saying safe and effective? Follow the science. It's all good. You got to get it, moms. You got to get it. Oh, everybody has to. You got to have a booster. Got to have three boosters.

Got to have four boosters. Got to have five boosters. Six, six boosters. You got to have all that. People lost their job. People lost their jobs. I can't believe she's. It's an apology tour. She is never without a mission. She is never without a mission, this woman. Well, I think maybe the mission is the apology tour because they want to keep MRNA in play. No kidding. Because, you know, Stargate, we're going to solve cancer, by the way, while we're on it. Hold on a second. Here we go.

According to a new report on cancer, cancer is appearing more than ever before in women and younger adults as well. For the first time in years, men and women now have nearly the same cancer risk. It's a shift driven by a rise in cancer cases among women under 50. According to the 2025 report from the American Cancer Society, cancer diagnosis in younger adults are increasing at a steady rate. And overall, people under 65. What could it be?

Are seeing cancer rates climb between one to three percent compared to older adults. And that's challenging the long held belief that cancer is primarily a disease of aging. OK, then we have this report. Heart attacks are still rare for young people, but lately the rates are rising. What? According to the Smith Heart Institute, people 25 to 44 saw a nearly 33 percent increase in heart attack deaths since 2020. Since 2020. What could have changed since 2020? I'm trying. I'm racking my brain.

And thanks for the people. Thanks for the 30, 30, 20, 20, 20. Chances are, if you or if you know 10 people, you'll have met or at least two of those people will have had a heart attack. Dr. Zachariah Neely, a cardiologist with Riverside Health, says there are several reasons behind this, like a lack of exercise, a rise in obesity and even marijuana consumption. That's what it is. Traditionally, it's been viewed as a safer alternative to tobacco.

Marijuana and marijuana products actually seem to be just as, if not more pro inflammatory, as well as putting you at risk for heart disease and heart attacks in the future. According to the CDC, heart disease is the leading cause of death in the US. These these lying people and the pharmaceutical industry, oh, we better do something before before RFK Junior gets in. Get your flu shot. On the medical watch for you this afternoon, it is the worst flu season to hit the US in 15 years.

The CDC reports there have been at least 29 million estimated cases so far this season. There have been 16,000 deaths, though, as of February. They've got more refrigerated truck morgues. 68 kids have died. There have been also a minimum of 370 ,000 hospitalizations this season, maybe more severe due to falling vaccination rates in recent years for some groups, including children. I believe 16,000 is actually low. It's typically it's more in the 30 to 60,000. Well, those numbers are dubious.

OK, we had to be during the covid period. We found these numbers were dubious. There was zero. There was zero during covid. There were no flu deaths. Zero. It went away. The flu was gone. It's crazy. But wait, we have breaking news. We have an outbreak. The measles outbreak in rural West Texas has grown to 58 cases as of today. And I'll wait until you hear the cause of this. I can tell you. Can you guess? Can you guess who? Mallory's.

No, no. Experts believe it jumped the state line into eastern New Mexico, with eight people now diagnosed with that highly contagious virus. Public health officials in New Mexico have said they suspect some of the state's cases are linked to the Texas outbreak, but have not confirmed it yet. In Texas, 13 people are hospitalized. State health officials say it's the largest outbreak in 30 years there.

The cases in Texas are concentrated in a close knit, under-vaccinated Mennonite community where many children are homeschooled or taught in private religious schools. It's the religious freaks. It's their fault. Blame it on them. The Mennonites. What are Mennonites, by the way? What is there? It's like an Amish. Oh. It's a spin-off. It's a different group, but I think it's similar. Ah, it's a subgroup. Okay. And then finally... Or an overgroup. Maybe they may be the progenitors. I'm not sure.

I should know. We should both know this. Yeah, we should know. We're both Americans. These are Americans we're talking about. We should know what the deal is, and we don't. It just sounds like, ooh, Mennonites. Ooh, they're the cause of measles. Oh, no. And then finally, ah, yes. Let's just reiterate why we need Ozempic to be on Medicare. There may be yet another use for the drugs Ozempic and Lugovine beyond diabetes and weight loss.

A new study shows the active ingredient, semaglutide, may also help reduce alcohol cravings in people with alcohol use disorder. That's a condition where a person can't stop drinking alcohol or has become dependent on it. In the study, people injected with semaglutide had reduced alcohol cravings in fewer heavy drinking days. Roughly 400 million people suffer with alcohol use disorder around the world. I have the I have the the data sheet here as to how that works.

Why people stop drinking while on Ozempic. It's because. Probably because they're nauseous. No, they can't find the bottle because they go blind. Yeah. Long way. Yeah, it was necessary. Um, 11 second truth wants to come out. I want a truth wants to come out. Obviously, Sean Hannity promoting Laura Trump's new program. All right. Joining us now, the host of the upcoming hit show, My View with Laura Trump. And by the way, take that to the bank. It will be a hit show. Laura shit.

He says Laura shit. Laura's shit of the upcoming hit show my view with Laura shit Trump and by the way take that to the bank it will be a hit show. Laura's shit what is it what was in his mind? The show probably Laura Trump doesn't seem to have that the personality to pull off a show.

I don't know why she you know you know the Fox is gonna change which will be interesting as you know Rupert Murdoch has been trying to change his irrevocable trust which is kind of like huh isn't it irrevocable for the fact that it's irrevocable and he wanted he wanted to not have his his liberal children to get control of Fox News and News Corp. He wanted to give it to the to Lachlan. Lachlan that went this more middle of the road. Yeah well it looks like that's not gonna happen.

So what will happen to Fox News? It'll be like CNN and MSNBC. What will happen to Gutfeld? Although I have to say I have to mention this because I had done radio work for KSFO and KGO. Oh you've done radio work have you? Yes I have and the guy who and the guy I can't remember his name I should remember his name but the station manager for KGO which was very had a bunch of liberals on there were yakking away about stuff to talk radio in the old days.

He also ran the most conservative station which was the other one I guess it was KSFO but he the same guy whose name will come to me he was he could do he's he himself was a rampant liberal but he had no problem running a money -making organization that had nothing but conservative talk radio in fact where Rush Limbaugh ended up.

So it's possible you don't have to you know if you're a money maker yeah you know you can say well you know I'm not going with the MSNBC stuff because that just loses money. Well maybe his liberal children don't care about making money they've got their money. They're gonna do it for America. What kind of a break how was these how were these kids raised?

They're gonna do it for America well he had eight wives I mean who knows who raised them you don't know you don't know if we were running the show we'd know what to do. What? I don't know we'd know what to do we'd have on doing what's her name Becky what's the name of that woman you kept that did the sigh? Aunt Gigi? Aunt Gigi yes I gotta write that down I'm gonna forget.

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uh art was better there was no blood you know she wanted blood she wanted blood people bludgeoning each other she just thought it was lame someone just typed in some things into a prompt and there it is that's all they did i i think she's just hurt he's hurt why what does she do that was so great well she's done lots of great art what are you talking about i'm talking about on that for that show in particular no she was just saying it in general in general we she was critiquing

okay i have the solution start a blog she was correct about the she thought the boxing soccer was uh very poorly placed uh it was a bad color which we both agree is correct oh yeah no i i we both i said when we picked it i said the problem was but it's too small boxing soccer was way too small yes but you agreed yes but we picked it because we thought it was funny it was funny yeah it was definitely funny and it was the one i liked the most was the tan staffles which i guess is some

sort of cookie oh no it's it's an acronym we've been through that before i mean i don't yes we have yes we have but he did a or he she did a uh plate glass window thing as a free lunch tan stoffel is the acronym there there's no such thing as a free lunch there ain't no such thing as a free lunch there ain't no such thing as a free lunch yes exactly so which one did tan stoffel do he did the the stained glass window that was pretty you use that for the newsletter i saw use it for

the newsletter i liked it a lot i was gonna i picked it as the as the winner but it had no uh had nothing to do with the show really just was it was an evergreen yes and so we both decided that the boxing soccer guys with the coming out with their gloves on yeah it was the way to go and then there was nothing else what else was there to pick that that taunted what did tantan you recommend no she she just said it was uh infantile and i'm like yeah that's us in a nutshell yeah that's the

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it wasn't that good i mean it was it was a good idea but i it wasn't executed to the point that was actually that was actually a tantanille there you go well maybe that's what you want it was that was a good the idea was outstanding but it wasn't uh what was the problem how could she how could she improve on it what was the problem i think that i think she could improve on it by just not using it at all chasing away artists one episode at a time oh goodness

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english language sources include the most published reference books as different as different as the holy quran translated many versions of the bible translated the tara translated shakespeare dr soothe agatha agatha christie jk rowling's daniel steele and jrr tolkien tolkien which as the most published would start with greater weighting sources like x facebook tick tock sms messages and email provide an ever -shifting source data on which llms rely evolving

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york city tariff you know they have these tolls i'm sorry tolls you know within the city is congestion rules yeah it's not a toll but it's a congestion air yeah congestion fee i guess fee yeah well tell me if you can find the the discrepancy in this uh like what's wrong with this picture nyc tolls do you want me to stop it when i hear it or just let it roll it's not that long the transportation department under president trump has revoked its approval

of new york city's congestion toll it charges drivers entering manhattan below 60th street here's how new york governor kathy hokal responded in case you don't know new yorkers we're in a fight we do not back down not now not ever i don't care if you love congestion pricing or hate it this is an attack on our sovereign identity our independence from washington the department of transportation gave approval to the program under the biden administration in late

2024 the trump administration says it's terminating the program for two reasons one the congestion toll provides no toll free option for drivers and two the toll aims to raise revenue for public transit rather than reduce congestion transportation secretary sean doffy said in a statement quote new york state's congestion pricing plan is a slap in the face to working class americans and small business owners it impedes the flow of commerce into new york by increasing costs for

trucks which in turn could make goods more expensive for consumers trump commented on the termination quote congestion pricing is dead manhattan and all of new york is saved new york's transit and bridge authorities immediately filed a lawsuit challenging the decision they accused the trump administration of targeting the congestion toll for quote blatantly political reasons okay um so first of all i i would say that the um that the sovereign identity from washington dc was kind of

weird but i think the all entry into manhattan below 60th street isn't that all entry into manhattan below 60th street well a lot of it there's some up north you can get in the the discrepancy in this report is the following why did they send it to the department of transportation under biden for approval in the first place when trump just reversed the approval how come it wasn't a problem with their their sovereignty back when they gave it to the biden administration to approve

it in the first place now that it's disapproved oh all of a sudden it's a big stink probably because they were getting some of that sweet green money for doing it yeah there was something that's what i'm thinking hmm uh two quickies for you the first one is uh looks like it's the end of an era john pig butchering is coming to an end now thailand is cracking down on cyber scam networks run from labor camps across its border with myanmar officials have arrested

suspected ring leaders and tried cutting power to the compounds where thousands of people are made to work and live this video shows some of the foreigners being freed after having been trafficked to the facilities in myanmar in the camps they were allegedly forced and sometimes tortured into targeting victims of online fraud around the world the united nations says hundreds of thousands of people have been lured to work in compounds like this across southeast asia the gambling

town of shwe koko is one of the sites that was recently raided you know the thing is they showed the video of these uh of these prisoners who were there they had released not a single one of them was a hot asian chick but i think they they got the wrong camp makes no sense yeah that's it um i had to find a clip where they mentioned the fbi so i could coin this right on time exactly on schedule just before cash patel gets in the fbi's six-week cycle yeah this

was a joint investigation involving the fbi the montgomery county sheriff's office and the spring branch isd police department i'm told the idea was to place pipe bombs throughout memorial high school and use guns to shoot at students to plan in its early stages but multiple law enforcement agencies told me the threat was credible enough that they acted quickly within 30 minutes of becoming aware of this plan they arrested a 15 and 16 year old teenager girl

now spring branch isd police chief larry bainbridge says they become aware of the threat yesterday thanks to a source bainbridge says they arrested a 16 year old girl she has since been charged with third degree felony terroristic threat charges we're told that student was a 10th grader assigned to memorial high school but was attending a separate school in the district that is designed to help students that fall behind the 15 year old student that was arrested

is in custody with the montgomery county sheriff's office we are awaiting more details on her but have not been told that she has been charged yet and she was not a spring branch isd student we have also reached out to spring branch isd to the district to find out if they have notified parents and staff we spoke to a few students and parents that were here as school let out none of them were aware of this situation we'll of course continue to ask questions and keep you posted we're live in the

spring branch area bill barajas kprc 2 news that was houston houston this morning actually i'm sorry what houston it was in houston this morning it happened this morning like a great what was 15 16 year old girl with a grand scheme to set up pipe bombs all over the place and start shooting kids yeah yeah that's yeah it makes sense logical these damn 15 year olds are all that way i wonder what ssris they were taking uh oh how about this how about the i got it one talk clip talk i

knew it i knew i knew he was going to come in with the talk i knew it somehow i knew it here wait yeah yeah here's a woman there's a woman who's divorcing her husband now first of all this woman looks like she's 17 she might be 20 but she's married and she's divorcing her husband over an incident that happened at the super bowl and she's fed up with this guy because he booed taylor swift i'm divorcing my husband because he booed taylor swift at the super bowl and i still don't

think he believes me to be honest but he might want to start because i just followed my paperwork at the courthouse and you can see right here the date of separation is this year's super bowl i'm not just doing this because of the action of booing i am doing this because of everything that it represents in our relationship i have loved taylor allison swift since i was 12 years old my husband even likes her too like he'll put on her music when we're cooking

together he has a favorite song it's girl at home but we were at the super bowl it was me him and five of his buddies and when they put taylor up on the jumbotron all of his buddies started booing and my husband joined in and that just tells me everything i need to know about that man because he didn't care that that would hurt my feelings he just wanted to fit in with his boys he didn't even care that that's not even how he actually feels he just like wanted to look

cool i guess and and that's not a man that's a boy and and when you see that see that you can't really unsee it so i'm divorcing him thankfully i have a prenup i'll be retaining all my assets as well as the assets that i inherited with peace and love he probably will not be returning to the super bowl anytime soon so that's one less boomer for you taylor i love you he should divorce her for the uptalking to be quite quite well he dodged a bullet the way i see it

yeah no kidding oh might as might as touch network just released another episode they probably released two during the show uh actually yes they released one two hours ago and three hours ago titles bark like a dog mike morning collapse and take it to the streets the the the mightest mightest touch man those guys yeah they're packing them in they're on fire i tell you um the everlasting uh bird flu continues to uh hurt everybody and we are now resorting to lucy eggs the

white house is working on a plan to control the bird flu as egg prices soar to record levels they expect to present it to president trump in the coming days the average cost for a dozen of eggs has jumped to four dollars and 95 cents that's 50 percent more than a year ago and prices are expected to increase by another 20 a trump official slammed the biden administration's response to the outbreak the biden plan was to just you know kill chickens uh and they

spent billions of dollars just randomly killing chickens within a perimeter where they found a sick chicken some new york city stores are selling eggs in bundles of three they're calling them lucy eggs similar to how they sell lucy cigarettes oh man hey wow i guess what three eggs cost in new york i don't know probably three bucks probably 10 bucks oh yeah 10 bucks for the three is mimi not worried about her uh chickens catching the bird flu she hasn't got any chickens i

thought she had chickens but she wrote a whole book about having chickens yeah that's because she got fed up with chickens it's too bad she doesn't have chickens because after the port angeles podcast studio she could have had port angeles rent a chicken yes the rent of chickens are not a bad idea it's happening people are renting their chickens out i know they're doing virtually you don't even have to have the chicken at the house oh that's interesting yes virtual rental so when the

chicken lays an egg most chickens backyard chickens lay about one egg every day and a half oh that's how it works that's a great idea yeah and then you go pick up you go to the guys get the chickens you say what did what did old lucy lay this last week and you know it was raining a lot like for example jay has a bunch of chickens yeah and when it rains a lot the chickens don't do anything they just sit around grousing then they start laying again grousing do they go

like this yeah they go exactly like that that's what they do oh yeah i gotta lay that's a great idea if you have chickens you should be doing rent a chicken you get a webcam or a body cam a chicken cam chicken cam you can watch the chicken every time it lays an egg that egg now belongs to you that's a great idea american ingenuity american ingenuity uh we're the best we are never ceases to amaze go murica all right well i got a couple of the sad stories of the dead

the dead hostages oh that's not a way to end a show we're not ending the show we're getting to the dead hostages okay well i could do the i got a series of clips on the fed buyout but i think we're running out of time yeah all right dead hostages here from npr wait wait there's a couple different ones i got the first one is the npr dead hostages npr and then i got the sad hostage story which will back it up okay israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu warns that tomorrow will

be a very difficult day for the state of israel tomorrow is when the bodies of four hostages held by hamas are expected to be released from gaza netanyahu says their families have been notified six living hostages are expected to be released saturday as part of israel's ceasefire with hamas all right very very sad that was you know it's just like a dumb this is why they haven't all hell hasn't broken loose because i think they're all arrested the hostages are all dead but here's

the sad hostage story this is one of the dead hostages and if you listen carefully to the story this was a a person that was a dad now that with his wife they were kind of palestinian sympathizers i i the whole story doesn't make any sense unless the palestinians are just ogres the hamas terrorist group provided the name of one of the deceased hostages said to be released on thursday his name is odette lefshitz he and his wife were peace activists and regularly transported

patients from gaza to receive medical treatment in hospitals in israel however they were both taken hostage during the october 7th terrorist attack his wife was released during the first ceasefire in october 2023 she said this soon after she was released from hamas captivity i thank you for coming to hear my tragedy and that of all my friends it was hard and i hope we get through it their children previously shared their thoughts on the tragic situation

before finding out that their father had died in hamas captivity my father and my mother kidnapped on the 7th of october my mother released my father still inside yeah all right it's baffling to me why these guys are back and forth and back and forth they're known to the palestinians why would they be all of a sudden hostages it just makes no sense i don't know all right i'm gonna lighten the mood a little yeah bring it up a notch singer cheryl crow is

getting rid of her tesla the singer songwriter posting a video to instagram waving goodbye to her tesla as it's taken away on a flatbed in the post she says she's protesting against elon musk's recent work with the trump administration the money she's making by selling that tesla she says she'll be donating it to npr crow has been a long-time advocate for environmental causes donating it to npr well that's a waste analysts look at this picture said that it was the tesla being taken

in for service based on the fact that the tree was just turning autumn colors oh really so that was an old very old video it's an old video that she decided to post as though she's giving away the tesla to give the money to npr at least that that's one analysis but you know i was looking at this kennedy center protest um you heard you know you heard about this so it's actually the president does have the right under actual law to uh dismiss the entire board of the kennedy center and

then he put what he did put in a new board and then the board of course elected him as chairman of the board and he said yeah okay that's great we're gonna make the kennedy center great again no more um drag shows and no more lgbtq and what i noticed and you'll hear it in this clip is that a lot of including the was it milwaukee that had all the that had the the the trans people show up at the city council meeting i think it was milwaukee wasn't it are you

talking about the one where they had the blue-haired girl and all the rest of you know that was uh that was uh wooster massachusetts massachusetts um i've noticed that a lot of the people complaining including because i looked at that whole video went back and looked again these are all drag performers they're all performers and and and everyone who showed up at this half mile walk protest they're all drag show performers so you know yeah no wonder they're upset about lgbtq whatever because

they're they have to find other lines of work the drag drag time story hour all that was it was a good gig yes phoebe i yes i know it's i can't help but it's blue hair tonight this group walked half a mile from washington circle right here to the kennedy center their message they're not going anywhere armed with passion and bubbles and a strong message for the president members and allies of the lgbtq plus community made their way from washington circle thursday night pausing

of course for much needed dance breaks before arriving at the kennedy center loud and proud we're here because donald trump in typical trump fashion has done some shady maneuvering to get rid of the board at the kennedy center and essentially install himself as dictator of the arts president trump has said moving forward drag shows will be a no-go at the kennedy center we're not gonna let people steal our joy tara hoot a popular drag queen in the district believes she should be board

president i think why not me i'm the people's princess darlings and the kennedy center is a place for everyone thursday night she and others voiced their frustrations with the way the president has portrayed this community the kennedy center has always been a home for everybody and now it won't be and i you know i hope there's somebody who will listen to us and try and stop it they say they wish the president would be more understanding i wish he understood that we are more

than what he tries to make us be that at the end of the day we are not any sexual beings that drag is for everyone and drag is love and that's what we're here to drag until then they're standing strong on their message we will survive him that's what i would tell him that we're not going anywhere um and that we're not going back in the closet it doesn't end here this is just the beginning darling i mean it's not even been a month we're all just trying to get our sea

legs and see what's up and where we're going and the vision is clear we're here to rise up and say no more i truly believe that a lot of these people showing up at city council meetings and protesting everywhere they're worried about their vocation more than anything it's it was really eye-opening because all the you know the the blue-haired girl the uh the the one with the with the glitter for a beard all all performers i don't know if they were all performers yeah i think a lot of them

are and then there's definitely more than one here's my final story this is from the trans maoism files i finally found a story short enough and concise enough and it is a bit of an eye opener this is about the zizians have you been tracking this story people keep emailing all the murderers yeah the zizians yeah yeah i have actually but i haven't gotten any clips from here it is finally we have a no agenda worthy zizians clip jack lasoda who identifies as a

woman michelle zyko and daniel blank they face trespassing and handgun charges here in maryland all three were arrested sunday in frostburg now on sunday a person reported to police that three suspicious people parked their box trucks on his property they asked to camp there for a month that's how deputies managed to arrest him now lasoda whose middle name is ziz is believed to be the leader of what you called there the zizian cult today lasoda told the judge that she quote has done nothing

wrong it has to be released prosecutors say lasoda has faked her own death in the past police in other states say that she may have been involved in the stabbing of her landlord and the murder of her parents today the judge deemed her a flight risk and denied bail now the cults believed to be connected to two california murders most recently the groups believed to be behind the murder of a border patrol agent in vermont and the cult is formed from followers of lasoda's

blog it's consisting of mostly transgender tech workers who subscribe to what's called radical veganism it's a philosophy of so-called rationalism and a fear of a quote singularity this is the idea that one day ai may advance to the point where it turns on humans this is an outgrowth of all those those anti -ai people that would include you no what was it called again the um why can't i remember the name now yeah oh i don't remember it at all that's where a lot of those open ai people came from

yeah open ai guys they were part of a cult and still are yeah and and so clearly somebody in the in the troll room should have come up with it by now they should no they haven't which is very disappointing um uh uh not altruism not the effective altruism yeah there you go thank you effective altruism i remember thank you max maxibilian yes effective so they've they've turned violent they've turned violent they have to be careful about this there could be more of them

hiding behind any bush is that all you got no i got no well for the purposes of this show i got the stuff is not gonna carry over much uh no i think we're good you're good we're good everybody's good enrolled by donating to no agenda imagine all the people who could do that oh yeah that'd be fab well we're actually not that good because we still have some good stuff coming we've got the tip of the day which everyone is always looking forward to we have some excellent end of show

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at ed's tavern in charlotte north carolina hurry up you can get there in time also the 29 days until spring meet up only 29 days left can you believe it's 6 30 at lincoln's roadhouse in denver colorado this evening the slave soiree takes place on friday at six o'clock at dick's primal burger in portland oregon also on friday the columbia river basin monthly tri-cities meet up seven o'clock at ty's barn grill in richland washington on saturday the south jersey meetup and

so it begins and it begins at one o'clock at miller's ale house in mount laurel township new jersey the no agenda third ottawa meetup on saturday 4 33 at johnny canucks ottawa ontario canada the arlington virginia northern meetup that'll be at five o'clock on saturday at astro beer hall please beware they have a new oh it is a new location that's in arlington virginia spooksville and finally on our next show day sunday on the 23rd orlando yoga optional and lunch two o

'clock at the great southern box company orlando florida dame meowderson she's a trip you should go check out that meetup and the indy no agenda 33 days of djt huzzah 330 at the dugout bar in indianapolis indiana de maria and sir mark of the greenwood will be hosting that as always it is a big turnout they're probably the biggest longest lasting biggest meetup that there is out there to find out if there's a meetup near you to get your connection which is protection everybody

you meet will be your first responder in a crisis go to no agenda meetups.com if you can't find one you start one yourself it's always a party you want to go hang out with all the nights and days um let me see how many isos do you have today two oh do you think they're really good winners two winners uh i have four i think one of them may be a winner you want to hear mine okay go here we go cut cut cut cut cut cut more no doesn't really work do you want to rent some chickens no no

no no i like the maybe so nice no i think this is the winner and that's it for today's episode uh-huh this is it's close uh-huh uh-huh i thought it was pretty good i i kind of like this this is the best of the group yeah i think we'll start with the the dog one hey it's time to walk the dog it actually is okay and then goodbye goodbye and good luck chumps i don't know i think uh that's it for today's episode i'm kind of liking that one all right you can have it well thank

you and now everybody this time as we end our show for everybody's favorite bit john's tip of the day great advice for you and me just the tip with jcb and sometimes adam created by dana brunetti okay today's tip is rtv silicon rtv silicone okay rtv silicone it's an interesting product uh mimi used here's a here's how it came about this discovery this is rtv silicone is a room temperature vulcanizing silicone it vulcanizes at room temperature you have to wait days and days and

days for it to do it but it doesn't here's what happened we everybody seems in this family seems to use the blend tech blenders the blend tech blenders are done by that very expensive will it blend was their tagline they have will it blend guys yeah so these blenders which have like 20 30 horse i don't know what the horsepower is but they'll grind up anything and uh mimi has one she picked it up used from somebody and uh the problem is with the way this the engineering on these things requires

that the container the grinding container has the all the mechanism inside and it has a gasket that went out and so she she tried the vulcanizing silicone uh to fix it and it turns out to work and then she used the vulcanizing silicone to fix them patch some holes and various things and it works like a champ now the brand she's using is is uh what's the name now now could you use so can you give me some other examples of uses besides a 900 blender uh so you have a leaky

hose a leaky hose anything that that you could use that could use vulcanized you know that guy that comes on tv and he slaps them say slap it on the boat you know slap it on a you know that kind of it's that kind of stuff the trolls think i said leaky hose no no leaky hose a leaky hose yeah well that's different yeah this won't work on them so american sealants is the one that she's using asi 502 high performance 100 rtv silicone whoa american sealants and yay they have it

on amazon they have a hole in your boat with it do you think i think so yeah wow if you leave it set long enough because it vulcanizes hmm so this is a key this is an interesting product indeed howitzer says yes he's used it on his boat matthew dunaj says it's good shit huh wow that sounds like that's a great product i believe it to be another fantastic tip which you can find out sorry but you do i stepped on a guitar i hit the yes i stepped on a guitar now you can find it at no agenda

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