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No Agenda Episode 1697 - "neat-o"

"neat-o"

Adam Curry and John C Dvorak discuss the absurdity of modern culture, including body deodorant commercials and the recent campaign event featuring Kamala Harris, which they mock for its celebrity-filled nature. They criticize the use of AI in creating deepfakes and job scams, highlighting the limitations and potential dangers of the technology. The conversation touches on the potential of AI in warfare and the economic impact of AI on jobs, with concerns about inflation and job displacement. They also mention the reopening of the Three Mile Island nuclear site for Microsoft's energy needs, emphasizing the historical context and potential risks.

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US. Adam curry. John C Dvorak, it's

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Sunday, September 22 2024 this year, award winning. Kimberly nation media assassination, Episode 1697,

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this is no agenda,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

unabashedly analog and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country, here in FEMA Region number six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

from Northern Silicon Valley, where we're all sick of hearing about deodorant for pits and privates. I'm John C Dvorak,

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buzzkill in the morning.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Are you watching broadcast television again?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Yes, of course. I always monitor it. Oh, man, there's a bunch of disgusting commercials. There's at least three different ones where you have some gruesome people, yes, including some big fat woman. Oh, and they're putting this stuff all over their bodies, and they're in their thighs and talking about pits and privates. It's all body deodorants. When did this have become a trend? How many do these modern women stink to high heaven?

Adam CurryAdam Curry

When's the last time you sniff the lady? Uh huh, see, I got you there. Not

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Joe Biden.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Oh yes. Well, I don't know what's going on with that, but we're just off the rails. Everybody's off the rails. This amazing. What? Everyone's off the rails, the rails, the guardrails, the rails. Everyone's like, ah, oh no. The the culture war economy is in full cycle. Oh, Kamala, oh, Oprah, oh, Hollywood. Oprah, did you see that thing? Man,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I saw enough of it. I couldn't watch the whole thing. It was interesting because it was, it was to say. It was just her speech turned into like a yes, yes, absolutely nothing as usual, yes. She talked about being a middle class kid and all the whole thing. I have only one clip from it, which is the one that was they passed around the most. Well, wait

Adam CurryAdam Curry

before we do that, let me just, let me just play this 29 seconds of Oprah.

Unknown

Thanks for joining us for this very special event, unite for America. Oh, look for America. Republicans for Harris. Love that group even more. Chris Rock is in the house. Please welcome Kamala Harris.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Kamala Harris, she

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

can like a parody of herself. Yes, I

Adam CurryAdam Curry

love that. She says Kamala Harris. She was so sick, by the way, this racist. She was so sick because, you know, when you say, That's why people say Kamala Harris. Because so she's like, I gotta say Carmela, better not say it wrong. Kamala Harris, hello, 1982 Oprah. I mean, does that still work? Do people still get all jacked up about that in the house? Hello. 1991 our CEO

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Hall shows in

Adam CurryAdam Curry

the house. Hey, I'm Adam curry, into his house.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Please push your heart arms under. You're pushing that roof off. Yeah, yeah, you pump your that's all that was missing.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Pump your fist. Oh, man, it was embarrassing. The whole thing, the whole thing, let me just the celebretties. I mean, if any, if at any point, there was a career killer for anyone in Hollywood, it was showing up on this show. I

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

agree. I have lost all respect for those people. Let's

Adam CurryAdam Curry

see who we have. Come on. Let's introduce him. Oh, bro, I

Unknown

see some faces I recognize. Why can't

Adam CurryAdam Curry

she talk right? This is crazy. This is not modern. It wasn't television. It was streaming. Only there's

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Brian Cranston, Hey, Brian, that's

Adam CurryAdam Curry

it. No more. Breaking Bad for me. Hello,

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hello, hello. Chris Rock is in the house. Chris, what are you? Chris Rock,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

he's black. So we sat in the

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house. Pin Stiller. Jennifer Lopez, Tracy Ellis Ross, Jennifer Lopez, Tracy Ellis Ross, where are you? Julia Roberts, what an overbite. It's unbelievable

Adam CurryAdam Curry

that overbite and

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this narrow street is in the house and Diddy in the house.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I'm sorry. And Diddy in the house. I'm sorry, Diddy not it, man. It was just like, Are people still falling for this?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I mean, you made your point. Yes, they are. Well, maybe not, I don't think

Adam CurryAdam Curry

so. You know what? You know who's falling for it? It's people who it's people who are online. Oh, man, oh, yeah, look what they're doing. Man, it's all lies. Man, that people are the people who disagree with Kamala Harris. They're like, Oh, it's not real. People, none of this is real. It's a show. It's a show and it's a dumb show. None of these. It's so phony, so fake, so obvious. All right, you want to play your clip.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I only have the one. No, oh,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

what you got?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

It's the, it's the, it's the universal answer she gives to everything

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we take pride in the privilege of being American, and this is a moment where we can and must come together as Americans, understanding we have so much more in common than what separates us, let's come together. Come together the character that we are so proud of about who we are, which is we are an optimistic people. Wait. Wait. What we are an optimistic people? We are Americans by character. Are people who have dreams and ambitions and aspirations. We believe in what

is possible, but the rent is too high. Kamala, we believe in what can be, and we

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

left out their best part, what unburdened by what

Adam CurryAdam Curry

has been. Yes, that's a flub. She flubbed her line. That's

Unknown

how that's how we came into being, because the people before us understood that one of the greatest expressions for the love of our country, one of the greatest expressions of patriotism, is to fight for the ideals of who we are, which includes freedom to make decisions about your own body, freedom to be safe from gun violence, Freedom to have access to the ballot box, Freedom be who you are and just be, to love who you love openly and with pride, freedom to just

Adam CurryAdam Curry

be. America will never, never elect her president, ever.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

No, but they could rig it.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

No. They're not even going to be able to rig it. No, no, so no. So

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

there was an interest. I didn't get this clip, but there was a they had on. I think it was one of the Acosta or Costa, whatever his name is on. CNN had his her assistant on because she talked about having a gun and shooting some guy in her house, yeah. And they brought the assistant on because she did say, Kendall. I said, Well, my, my staff will take care of whatever. I said later, yeah. And she comes on his show and says she didn't have a gun. What?

Adam CurryAdam Curry

You didn't get that clip? No,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

it came in late. It was like on it was on some but I can get it if you really wanted to hear it. No, I can assure you. Assistant said the camera has no gun, which I believe camis

Adam CurryAdam Curry

got no gun. Yeah, I can already see in the troll room. Adam

Unknown

has more faith in the American people than I do right now. Get

Adam CurryAdam Curry

off of the internet. Bro, get off of the internet. Troll guy. It's a troll guy. Which

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

one was his name? Get a name. Names.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

He's already scrolled by. Guess

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

what? 5662,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

no, it's a troll. It's troll 72945, this was my favorite piece, because here you have 1980s 1990s celebrities, you know, bring in some reality. People bring in. Bring in someone from, uh, survivor or a bat. What is it the? What's the I love Island. That's who people today want to see. Bring in some love. Island celebrities now. Now we got Meryl Streep, and this was hilarious.

Unknown

I wanted to ask you, I can't believe I had this opportunity.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I can't believe I'm talking to Kamala Harris. I probably never will again. Never again. That's correct. That's probably true. Totally true. You nailed it. Meryl Streep,

Unknown

I probably never will again. I have a little Debbie Downer moment, because actually, I think you're going to win. I'm sure you're going to win. What happens when you win. Oh, I'm worried about it. And I wonder, worried about I wonder if we're ready for January, 7, ninth. What happens? What happens? So we will be ready, but just taking a step back and thank you, Marilyn, for your just the gift, Marilyn,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

thank you, Marilyn. Marilyn, yes, that's why I played the clip. Thank you, Marilyn, for your answer. Hello, that's how out of touch are you?

Unknown

Thank you, Marilyn, wow. I

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

did. I missed that. Yeah, yeah, she said, Marilyn, to Meryl Streep, what happens?

Unknown

So we will be ready, but just taking a step back and thank you, Marilyn, for your just the gift that you give. And

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Streep is just looking like, what did I sign up for? What did I do? What did I do? Well, the only question that mattered was this one, and she gave the same wrong answer. We

Unknown

really would love to know what your plan is to help lower the cost of living. Yeah. First of all, thank you both for being here. Thank you, Meryl and yours is a story I hear around the country as I travel, and

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

hey, stop. It's not a story, lady, it's a question, and not a story.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

It's not a story. It's a question, a

Unknown

story I hear around the country as I travel, and in terms of both rightly having the right to have aspirations and dreams.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I'm peeing my pants. This is so good.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

This is, yeah, this is the other clip I would have got. It's

Adam CurryAdam Curry

the best. Rightly

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having the right to have aspirations and dreams. I

Adam CurryAdam Curry

rightly am having the right to have aspirations and dreams. Bam, nailed it, and

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ambitions for your family, and working hard and finding that the American dream is for this generation and so many recently far more elusive than it's been, and we need to deal with that number of ways. One is bringing down the cost of everyday necessities, including groceries. That's

Adam CurryAdam Curry

right, I'm gonna bring down the cost. I'm gonna wave my wand and poo gonna make it so I'm your fairy godmother. Please. Let's just listen to how the media played this. Let's go overseas for a moment, to France. France 24 please

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welcome Kamala Harris. It wasn't technically a campaign rally, but it may as well have been. Kamala Harris was welcomed with open arms by superstar host Oprah Winfrey, in front of hundreds of 1000s of live streamers and a studio audience in Michigan, one of the seven crucial battleground states that will decide the election. It seems to us that something happened to you.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Why does Oprah talk like this? Something happened to you?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

She's now from Africa.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

The ozempic has affected her speech

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battleground states that will decide the election. It seems to us that something happened to you.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Where's Oprah? Isn't Oprah from Louisiana.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

She's from Ghana.

Unknown

The moment President Biden stepped aside and withdrew his candidacy, that kind of said a veil or something drops

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

panties?

Unknown

What happened to you? You know, we each have those moments in our lives where it's time to step up. Jonathan Lopez, Meryl Streep and Julia Roberts to Chris Rock and Ben Stiller. The unite for America event was marked by celebrities who beamed in remotely to endorse Harris, beamed in.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Did she say? Beamed in? They beam in. They beamed in remotely unite

Unknown

for America. Event was marked by celebrities beamed in remote meeting, Doris Harris and this pitch to gun owners from the Democratic candidate.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

How do you think that plays? How do you think that plays, in general, with with the Kamala Harris audience, oh, she's badass, man. She gonna shoot me. What? What? I'm confused. I

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

have no idea, but it's beyond me why she'd even why that was a talking point of hers.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

It wasn't a talking point. It was a complete miss her. It was wrong. You don't say that. It's odd,

Unknown

seemingly candid comment from Harris, nonetheless supports stricter gun laws, including a ban on assault weapons and more background checks. The glitzy talk show screened with a presidential race neck and neck. Six weeks to go to Election Day. Neck

Adam CurryAdam Curry

and neck. They beamed in, yes. Let's listen to ABC version

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vice president Kamala Harris touching down in battleground Michigan, hoping to harness the star power of one of her most influential supporters, Oprah Winfrey, together, let's all choose. Kamala Hara, oh, nice to get it right.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Yeah, hi, this is Oprah. Could you do me a favor and not put the Horus bit in, but do it where I corrected it and said it right? And said, you know, could you put that in your package and take out the Horus? Kamala Harris,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I was supposed to be from the same event. It's the same event, yeah, and they swapped out the the the intro to the horror sounds like sounds

Adam CurryAdam Curry

like it to me, Interesting, huh? Hosting

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a virtual rally with Harris, hoping to reach voters in the critical states that will determine this race. The campaign touting the nearly 200,000 people are registered for the online event. Oprah, a self proclaimed independent speaking directly to the sliver of voters who can make the difference. I'm calling on all you independents. That's

Adam CurryAdam Curry

you. John C Dvorak, I hope you were tuned in.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Wrong, wrong, unaffiliated, big difference. Oh,

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you undecideds. You know this is true. You know I'm telling you the truth that values and character matter most of all. No,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

no no. People want the rent's too high. Oprah, that's what people want the rent to come down, and all they hear from Trump is, drill, I'm gonna lower the cost of energy. That lowers the cost of anything. Almost everybody understands that message, and I truly think this was the death knell for the horrors campaign. But that didn't stop her from going to the battleground states and code switching again with

Unknown

the presidential election less than two months away, Vice President Kamala Harris and former President Donald Trump continue to ramp up their campaigns. This afternoon, Harris spoke in Atlanta about reproductive rights, while slamming Republicans and these hypocrites, want to start talking about this is in the best interest of women and children. Well, where you been when it comes to taking care of the women and children

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I'm wearing my bin where you been? No, no. It's a mistake. It's a mistake. I don't think America would have been ready for her regardless. But America is a we want a daddy. We don't want a mommy. That's what we want. Mommy. No, well, she's trying to be, she's trying to be mamala, mama, mama. So, no, I'm not too worried. Not too well, yeah, well, it's got no, no, no, it's gotten even better. No, it's

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

still doable. But, you know, they're trying to do this has been brought up in the number of on the right wing. They're trying to flip New York, because it makes all these swings stay irrelevant, really, because who cares about this and that, if you get New York, yeah,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

this is the biggest show on earth, and it's playing out as such, and it's just amazing, enjoyable. Oh, it's us, because we step back and we go, What a dumb show. Yes, turn on, love Island. Come on. Let's get something good, but at least we're not Diddy, hate to say it, but we called it now to

Unknown

the latest in the arrest of rap mogul Sean Diddy Combs was being held without bail in Brooklyn's metropolitan Detention Center while he awaits trial, according to NBC News's Chloe melody has been placed under a suicide watch now in studio with more details. Chloe walk us through your latest reporting. What we know right now? We know from a source close to the situation that, yes, he is under suicide watch, Allison, but this is a precautionary measure,

because he. Is a high profile inmate, but just moments ago, we just received a statement from combs team, and they say that he is strong, healthy, and he's focused on his defense. He is committed to fighting this case, and has full confidence in both his legal team and the truth. And look, he could be behind bars for up to a year. That's how long it could take for this to finally get to trial.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

He offered to give himself up, but now he's on suicide watch. Did he still?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

He probably expected to get bail, but they, I don't understand what the point of all this is, because they've grabbed all the blackmail material, yeah? And so they now have it.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

They have one, they have one loose end,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

yeah? But he doesn't unless he has a one of those, you know, kill switch, where he can where the black male material has been online, and now it could be released to the dark web. We even just talk only one, the dark web, yeah, the dark or the darkest West, Say

Adam CurryAdam Curry

it Ain't So the dark web? Oh no. Anyway, I

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

don't know what I the blackmail material has been transferred to the blackmailers, so which, by the way, brings up. We don't have the clip of it, but Howard Stern goes off. Do you think that maybe he was compromised at some point, and he now has to,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

no, he doesn't even want to shake someone's hand.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Germapho makes you thinking. But before we get too far away from the election, I do

Adam CurryAdam Curry

have like, Oh no, I was I had one more dude. Okay, forget the other Diddy clip. He's being moved to another prison, which is, which is where it always happens. You see, well,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

as long as they have the cameras on, yeah,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

no, the cameras will malfunction. The guards will be asleep. He did not kill himself. It's so obvious. And 15 years at this

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

point, they're not going to be able to pull this. They're not going to do that. He's not going to get killed. Okay,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

you can write in the book. All right, you have, you have the book. I don't have the book. I have to. You have the book. You have the book. I want

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

to play these two clips about the elect, because it has to. It's got the kind of subtle propaganda that only NPR and PBS produce. And this was a look back at a movie called the election.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I don't remember this movie.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I don't remember it either, but I guess it was a big hit. It had Reese Witherspoon playing some young whore, a student who was running for some office or other, and it was very reflective of Hillary's campaign. I guess this movie came out in 2015

Adam CurryAdam Curry

2016 I kind of remember this, yeah, and

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

once, somebody, once, I think, asked her, do you want to play Hillary Clinton in a bio pictures? No, I already have referring to this movie, and so I just had two clips from it, and because there is a WTF moment in the second clip, let's play the intro. I

Unknown

know a lot of you are thinking about the presidential election, but as we continue our series looking back at some of the notable films of 1999 this weekend, we wanted to focus on a different look at the democratic process. Alexander Payne's film election. You see, I believe in the voters. They understand that elections aren't just popularity contests.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Wow. She even has the Hillary cadence. That's kind of interesting.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Yeah, this from 99

Unknown

was built by people just like me, who work very hard and don't have everything handed to them on a silver spoon. Those are the words of high school overachiever, Tracy Flick played in a breakthrough performance by Reese Witherspoon. Since Paine's satire first hit theaters, Tracy has become an archetype of female ambition, as well as a litmus test for how our society views ambitious women, and how that has changed over time since the movie first came out, as viewed by her teacher, played by

Matthew Broderick. Tracy is a threat. Who knew how high she would climb in life, how many people would suffer because of her. I had to stop her

Adam CurryAdam Curry

predictive programming anybody.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

So they go on this, by the way, is alive. I have two wanted, point something, minute clips over a 15 minute analysis. They brought some woman in from Vox media, who's some critic, and she's a brags about being a journalist. And when you listen to some of the things she says, you wonder what kind of a journalist she is. But they go back and forth about how this was a big deal during Clinton's run, because they didn't, you know it was, they was reflected in this

character in the movie. But now it's changed. It's changed so much. Oh, and nobody now it's like, you know, and they, and they mentioned that the movie's not brought up anymore, and Kamala is a different person. And, oh, it's. Great now, and things the society has changed enormously, and blah, blah, blah, but there's a little gotcha in this clip that I think you'll spot.

Unknown

I have not seen any overt Tracy Flick references that much in this moment where Kamala Harris is is running to be the first woman president. Have you seen it at all? Do you think it's not as relevant this time around. Do you think things have changed enough, or am I just not looking in the right corners of the internet?

I have also not seen very many Tracy Flick references when it comes to Kamala Harris, where I think that election can be helpful when thinking about Kamala Harris is the way that Mr. M, the antagonist against Tracy, ends up using her sexuality to humiliate her as punishment for her running for office. Right? He is constantly threatening to reveal the relationship she had with her teacher. He has a lot of very sexual fantasies about her that are sort of about him,

establishing his masculinity over her. And what we've seen with Kamala Harris is that consistently figures on the right, starting with Donald Trump, they have made the false claim that she started her political career because of a relationship she had with Willie Brown in the 1990s he was the former mayor of San Francisco. It's false.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

It's false without evidence. False claim starting

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

with Donald Trump, starting bull crap with Donald Trump. This has been California lore since Willie Brown was around, years before Donald Trump even showed up on the scene. How does it start with Donald Trump? He's never even mentioned it that I know of. Here's

Adam CurryAdam Curry

your clue. Vox media, hello.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

It's unbelievable how they get away and then they let, they let this slip. This is this your NPR national treasure. Let it slip false. She uses the word false when there's this, not false. It's been well documented. There's pictures of her with this guy and with Diddy,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

yeah, true, yeah, yeah, in the same nightgown, when she was with the nightgown outfit, when she was with umtel Williams, yeah, yeah, yeah. False, false, false. Just because a woman is sexy and hangs out with with celebrities. Doesn't mean she's, she's she's loose. Char doesn't mean

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

she's a whore. Whoa, dude. No, it doesn't mean she's a whore. I just using it the phrase, it will

Adam CurryAdam Curry

prostitute. Use a better phrase. You know, there's

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

a difference between a whore and a prostitute. Oh,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

please, do explain.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Please. I think one is gets the money up front.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

John, I think they all want it up front. I don't, I don't think there's any difference with the money up front between the two. But you know the lot this is what. So yesterday, Tina and I went to see, am I racist in the movie theater? Which I didn't even know. Yes, it's Matt Walsh.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

They put that in the theaters. Well,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

remember the whole idea of Jeremy boring was he wants, he's a frustrated movie producer. So, you know, they had that first thing about the basketball team kind of that, you know, I think they streamed that online. I'm not sure it was like it was supposed to be a comedy, and it didn't really go anywhere. But they want to, they want to be a movie production company. By the way, the movie has done almost $5 million in two weeks, and they expect it to go over 10, which would be

triple its production budget. So shop, oh, ba, that's pretty good. So I didn't know that this was in theaters only because I thought I had seen pieces of it. Turns out that I guess they had maybe tested, yeah,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

so I think I thought it was online. So

Adam CurryAdam Curry

there were pieces of it, there were pieces of it. But what was genius about this is he, in essence, it's satirical, but he dresses up with a man bun and everything. And he then he goes around and tries to, oh, right, understand.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I remember seeing pieces of it with him, this man bun, yeah, and

Adam CurryAdam Curry

which was kind of good pre promotion. Now, the movie theater was not full. We went to San Antonio's. You know, maybe it's 25 people. It wasn't, but

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

you went to San Antonio, yeah, just

Adam CurryAdam Curry

before the ever Lacan terrace, which is, I'd say, it's about an hour from our house. So it's outside of San Antonio. It's a big, it's a big movie Plex. No, it's good. We like that place because they

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

got reclining. There's nothing in Fredericksburg. There's not a film theater in there. We had

Adam CurryAdam Curry

a movie theater in Fredericksburg. It's been closed for four years, and now it's an encampment for illegal I'm sorry, irregular migrants. Not kidding,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

they're in the theater. No, no, they're

Adam CurryAdam Curry

camping out behind it. Yeah. I. So, yeah, oh,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

yeah, but that's terrible. You have to drive an hour to go to see a movie. Well,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

we make an afternoon of it. They got pretzels. So the premise of the movie is, really, is it's, it's, I mean, the thing was made, obviously, it's not a high, high budget production, but it translated well to the screen. And so what Walsh is doing is he goes to all of these consultants and experts in dei to find out if he's racist. And he goes to like around like a discussion group where this black woman is the one where we got kicked out of yes, just sits there and berates everyone for

being racist. But what they do is they put, they put on the screen how much each person makes. So that woman was making $30,000 for this one class. But the best is he interviews Robin D'Angelo. You remember her?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Oh yeah, the woman who the white Friedel. So

Adam CurryAdam Curry

they paid her $15,000 they put it on the screen, Bing, $15,000 and of course, once you get 15 grand, you sit down. Please sign the waiver. Okay, yeah, I'm good. So there's no way that they could take it out. And it is the funniest bit where he is just trolling her, right down to what is mansplaining? And she says, Well, mansplaining is when a man is telling a woman what how his situation really is, because

she's wrong. And he says, no, no, I think man and he goes, and he literally mansplains Her about mansplaining, and she doesn't even know it. Then he brings out a black guy, and he says, You know, I feel like I should pay you reparations right now. And he gives him so much. This

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

was the late, the latest batch of teasers that he sent out were these reparation gags. He's great. And

Adam CurryAdam Curry

so He hands the guy, you know, some cash. And deangelo's like, well, that's, that's just the oddest thing I've ever seen. That's really strange. He said, why? I mean this, you know, reparations. I mean if I don't, if it doesn't start with me, then, then how do we do it? And she says, You know, I can give him some cash. She gets up, goes to her pocket, but comes back, hands him some cash. And on screen, they take the $15,000 in Qing, they lower to 14,970 70, because she only

had 30 bucks. It was, it really made, it made everyone look ridiculous. Meanwhile, he goes to a biker bar, you know, finds a whole bunch of white bikers like, well, not racist. You know, you can tell that they're not racist, just from how they're speaking. He finds a couple of black dudes like, no, no, I don't care, you know. And it was really good, because you can see how these Grifters have just psyop the whole society.

Because Americans are fundamentally nice. We don't want to hurt anybody's feelings, and we've been taken advantage of. But these a holes. It's, it's pretty good.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

It really is a great movie review.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Oh, thank you. It was quite, quite entertaining. I encourage everyone to go, go see it. And I'm amazed that they got it into theaters. I don't even know how you do that. Seems like that's the hardest part. Is getting the distribution. You know, Saturday afternoon,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

some guy who is a Republican who happens to be a distributor who, wink wink, nudge and nudge, decided to roll it out for him as a favor.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Anyway, we don't have to worry about any more misinformation, disinformation, particularly not online, because we now have help from technology conspiracy

Unknown

theories about everything from the assassination of John F Kennedy to what really happened on January 6, persistent in politics and beyond. But now new tech may point toward a potential breakthrough, meet debunk bot, powered by open AI and created by researchers at MIT, Cornell and American who say it can help reduce people's

beliefs in conspiracies significantly. So let's go in that direction, because we tried it out with one of the brains behind the bot, Thomas Costello, with a conspiracy that decades of debunking hasn't eradicated I believe the moon landing is not real. Me too. I don't believe that. I don't actually believe that the bot asks us to elaborate on the belief and why is the flag waving and to rate how strongly we feel about it, I'm going to say 99% true. Then in a series of screens, the chat

bot Presents Facts of them. How can you be sure that what it's telling me here is accurate? So absolutely, we found that it tends to be quite accurate. We hired a professional fact checker to go through some of the conversations, and in 99.2% Lot of cases that we looked at, the fact checker rate

Adam CurryAdam Curry

true. Yeah, the fact checker, the fact checker said no, that it's all good. It's perfect. It works so well, and it's not only safe, but it's effective.

Unknown

At the end, we reassess how strongly we feel about the belief now, and it's here where researchers found something that surprised them. On average, people reduced their belief by about 20% and consistent across a wide ranges on topics from Princess Diana to vaccinations, they found one in four participants disavowed the belief altogether. The

Adam CurryAdam Curry

other three keeled over, died suddenly.

Unknown

I think if you gave the facts to a semi competent lawyer. The lawyer would make it much more persuasive case than the AI does. It's just the lawyer has to do. Would have to do all this background, reason or research, and the AI can conjure it up and, you know, 12 seconds. But in reality, getting folks to engage at all could be tough. What makes you think that somebody who believes in a conspiracy theory is going to go on here and type it in that

their minds can be changed. So I would say that a lot of conspiracy theorists end up being motivated by truth and accuracy. Going to a chatbot interface that provides factual information. Seems like a good way to do that to me. Like most technology, it can cut both ways. You could imagine a version of this that spreads conspiracy theories, the debunk. But team now working on refining the tech, hoping it

helps shine a light down conspiratorial rabbit holes. We can use facts to open up the top of the rabbit hole to begin to crawl out a belief rabbit hole.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Yeah, well, that

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

doesn't make the hole any less deep.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

The whole thing is bullcrap. Because if you go total bull crap, well here's what it really is. If you go to debunkbot.com Before you start, you have to agree to the Terms of Service. And they say, they state, quite clearly, this survey is part of an MIT scientific research project. Your decision to complete this survey is voluntary. So you know, they're, they're basically doing research on you.

Unknown

So it's a good cheap trick.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Yes, it is. So it's not really, it's it's intense. No, it's

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

a cheap trick. Yes,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Cheap Trick. You're right. Let's

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

use that, right? Well, if you're going to talk about AI, I do have two more clips, but

Adam CurryAdam Curry

if you're going to open the AI hole, I'm diving in deep.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Well, first of all, ever since Gavin Newsom made it illegal, uh, he's been the you know, you can't scorn a coder, especially if they have a sense of humor. And so let's listen to the latest clip from Gavin Newsom. This will be aI Newsome, P Time, P time.

Unknown

Good evening, California. I come to you tonight to impart a few words of wisdom upon you. First, not all PP times are poo poo times, but all poo poo times are PP times second. Anything. Can be a dildo, if you try hard enough. And lastly, the poop map is real, and it's spectacular.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I hadn't heard that one yet. That's great. I've seen, I've seen the memes of him going, I can't believe that my law actually made everybody do AI ripoffs of me. Yeah. Okay, Gavin, so he,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

whoever has his voice they got, I think they nailed it. He sounds that's exactly what he sounds like in California. Here. We've heard him enough. They're not quite as good with some of the other ones. And I have a second clip, but this is Hillary on CNN, oh yeah. This is not as good because hit. They've got to, they've got to do something about slowing her down. This is this, AI, is not up to par, but

at least they're going in the right direction. I think Newsom's The one is going to take the brunt of this, because it's his voice is so good. But let's listen to Hillary.

Unknown

So your husband flies to Epstein Island 27 times. Then they arrest Jeffrey Epstein, and then you kill him just like that. You bribe the guards off the cameras, and then you choke him to death. Will you be choking Puff Daddy this time around? So how are you planning on doing? I wanted to choke him at night and make it look like a suicide, just like Jeffrey Epstein. But then I realized puffy might actually enjoy this. You know, maybe he slips on the shower.

Maybe he chokes with a piece of fried chicken. I still haven't decided yet. Racist

Adam CurryAdam Curry

and sex is nice.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Yes, the chicken day,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

this is what I mean. We're basically at Dead internet now. No, nothing is, yes, we, that's why we are unabashedly analog. The only thing left that you will have online will be us. Everything, everything else is questionable at best. You. Can't believe anything anymore, which is great for us. Yeah, it's

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

fabulous. What else this is? The is the, the the epoch of humor,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

yes, go out and touch some grass. You know, if you get confused and you get all spun up, go, go rub your face on the concrete. Do something, because the internet is no longer a place for sane human beings. What do you have here? You get two more clips. I

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

have two more AI clips. This is, these aren't the deep fakes or fakes, not deep, although the Gavin one had him talking and moving around. It was, it was a video. It's pretty good. This is a guy. This is a guy about an ex Navy guy, and, by the way, an ex Navy guy named, well, you'll get his name, and it's just this. I don't know if this is a real name, but he's he's pushing the idea, he's pushing the idea of of AI warfare being the new thing.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Oh, yeah, yeah, on Wall Street maybe

Unknown

Okay, artificial intelligence is shaping the future of warfare, and the US is lagging way behind. That is the view of Admiral Gary roughhead, who recently wrote about this in the Military Times. Admiral roughhead is a former Navy officer,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

for a second, a Navy guy named rough head, yeah,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I don't know. This guy sounds like he has a stake in some Wall Street. Ai. Oh, you think,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

yeah, that

Unknown

is the view of Admiral Gary roughhead, who recently wrote about this in the military. Times, Admiral Roughead is a former Navy officer

Adam CurryAdam Curry

who served Admiral rough head meet Rear Admiral Kirby as the Chief of Naval

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Operations, and commanded both the US Atlantic and Pacific fleet. And he argues that China is rapidly building their AI military technology. Oh yeah, the US needs to catch up. Welcome to All Things Considered.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Oh yeah, all things considered, especially crazy stories. Okay, how is a How is, how is China going to beat us with their AI? I can't wait. Is it in the second clip,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

there's a bit, you know, I said

Unknown

it's shaping the future of warfare. But is that accurate? Is it more the president of warfare when it comes to artificial intelligence?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Well, I

Unknown

think we're in the early stages and beginning to shape it, but I think we're just at the front end of what is going to be a pretty significant change in warfare and even more broadly, and so many different sectors of of our daily lives. This is a theoretical conversation, and I'm hoping you can help me now. It's the

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

theoretical conversation. When he's talking this is

Unknown

a theoretical conversation, and I'm hoping you can help listeners understand what exactly we're talking about. People think about tanks and jets and artillery and missiles when it comes to war. How does AI fit into all of that? What are we specifically talking about here?

What I would say AI is going to give us the speed that the likes of which we've never seen before, in how we move information, how we analyze information, how we make decisions, how we determine what the best options might be in a particular situation, And to be able to do it in ways that the human mind simply can't approach,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

oh, like a spreadsheet calculation.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

What is this? Reminds me. Do you remember when we, when they the cybersecurity guys, all of a sudden, all these ex military guys, come on. Oh yeah, cybersecurity, we're starting a new company. There's all the same thing, just bilking the government. Skip

Adam CurryAdam Curry

logic. Yes. Well, this is, you know, I don't just sit here like a Luddite and say, AI is a scam. Yes, you do. Now, I'm not a Luddite because I investigate things and I talked to people and

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

buddies weren't dumb,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

no, but they would, they Okay. A

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

lot of them investigating. They didn't like what they saw, and they decided to bust it

Adam CurryAdam Curry

up. Okay, then I am. You're right. I'm a Luddite. I'm an AI Luddite. I

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

don't think there's anything. It's not shameful. Okay, well, thank

Adam CurryAdam Curry

you. Then I then I misunderstood it. I am a Luddite and proud of it. I want bumper stickers away. I want t shirts. I want the whole night. So I tried out notebook. Lm, Oh, good. Everybody's talking about night notebook. They're talking about it, notebook, LM, it's the best thing. You add your sources and then and it gives you summaries and bullet points. And to be fair, it does. But yeah, what's interesting? Because I got very interested in the topic of entropy. I was talking to

Dave Jones. Dave Jones is a technologist through and through. He is. Is the man who really has done all the coding work for podcasting, 2.0 for the index. And he says, well, oh,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

can I interrupt you? Of course, I and I just kind of get, I'm going to do some mind reading. You're interested in entropy because you start, you're starting to see, or you have always seen the deterioration of podcasting and you're worried about it. Well,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

actually hadn't thought of it that way, but yes, and

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I think it was triggered subconsciously by the time that you played a segment that I loved, personally, of the fake podcasters that were completely generated by AI and you, that triggered the notion that things are going to deteriorate because of that and and then it was further deteriorated by the fact that I thought it should be a good segment on this show.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

And here we are, ladies and gentlemen, Luddite, meet your match. So first, the concept of entropy, definition, scientific concept that is most commonly associated with a state of disorder, randomness or uncertainty, and it relates to the second law of thermodynamics, which states that the entropy of an isolated system left to spontaneous evolution cannot decrease over time. So if you just leave so if you leave a car, if you leave something to its own devices,

entropy will occur. Randomness, a state of disorder, which is pretty much the web

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

deterioration is probably the summary word. IPhone

Adam CurryAdam Curry

is a good example. You know, some people call it planned obsolescence. I think it's entropy. You have an iPhone, and the more the apps evolve, and the more things happen, your iPhone just becomes crap, and it's time to upgrade and get a new one. That's

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I think that Google search is the perfect example of what you're talking another

Adam CurryAdam Curry

excellent example. So I now, and as I was searching around, I put enter a whole bunch of entropy sources, because I wanted to see how entropy relates to model collapse in large language models, and how that relates to energy. And in general, the notebook came back at me and said, Well, yeah, if there's a model, collapse occurs, and that is a good example of entropy. But, and then would always say, from some other sources which were not listed in your in your

list, which, like, what, wait a minute. You're supposed to only get it from, from my sources. So it went out and got some other sources to protect itself. And it says, you know, there are a lot of ways we can prevent model collapse, which, in Wait

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

a minute, stop. That's not right. I agree.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

It kept saying this every single time it come back and say from some other sources that were not listed, you don't have to be worried about model collapse, so it's protecting itself. This is not right. You don't have to be worried about model collapse because as long as the as long as AI can keep being trained on human sources, then it'll everything will be okay, which now makes perfect sense at looking at some of these companies that are popping up, such as ain Virgo was a,

what's it called? Is it called? See what the name of this company is? Our Aru, I'm sorry, Aru, and they're paying people eight bucks an hour to feed, you know, and label content to make sure it's made by humans and you know. But at this point, the AI model trainers have already, you know, scraped the entire internet, and now all you're really going to get, whether they pay people in India eight bucks or not, or wherever,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

that'd be high, yeah,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

to label this stuff, it doesn't matter. Entropy will occur. And I have an example, and a very simple example based upon your desire for the fake podcast known as the deep dive, which is a part of notebook. Lm, by the way, lots of people sent me versions of what I'm you know, no one did what I did, but they were all, Oh, here's here's episode, here's the no agenda show. And I put it into and here's a podcast about it. I'm going to show you entropy in real time. Why are you sighing?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Because I can't get my mouse to work.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

There's no evidence you want to use it. So who cares? That's entropy, right there, right there? An example of entropy. So comic strip blogger, very kind. Lee and this, this set me on my journey. He took the transcript of our last episode, 1696, and he put it into the notebook, LM podcast generator. And no matter what you do with with this notebook, deep dive podcast, it's always the same two voices, the dude

and the chick. It's always, oh, it's all, yeah, I know it's always, we're doing a deep dive, and it's always about between seven and 10 minutes long that that's just what it spits out. So already there's all kind and it's biased, but it doesn't matter. I'm gonna play two minutes of this as they determine. Now, you kind of, we all kind of remember what we did on on the last episode, but they focused a lot on this very

topic. So I want you to listen to the first two minutes of the deep dive of the no agenda Podcast, episode 1696, all right, everyone.

Douche

Buckle up. Buckle up, because today we're really diving deep into something pretty wild. It's always a deep dive. I mean, this sounds like it could be straight out of a spy movie, but sadly, it's the real deal. Sounds intriguing. What's the time? Hold

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

on, stop. Why is it? Sadly,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

if you're gonna do that, we'll never get through the two minutes.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Is it that bad? Yes. But okay, I will, I will. I will relent from my normal conversational

Adam CurryAdam Curry

interruptions and the reasons it's important, because I want you to hear how they determine what our topic was about and how they describe it, and then we'll go to the next step. Sadly,

Douche

it's the real deal. Sounds

Bag

intriguing. What's the topic today?

Douche

We're talking asymmetrical warfare, but not the kind you typically expect. Think more along the lines of exploding gadgets and international intrigue,

Bag

exploding gadgets. Now that's something you don't hear every day.

Douche

You got that right. We're taking a deep dive into a recent episode of the no agenda Podcast, episode 1696, to be precise, Adam curry and John C Dvorak,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

by the way, perfect pronunciation of your name. I'm impressed by that. You

Douche

know those guys who can sniff out a media narrative from a mile away?

Bag

Oh yeah, I know them. Always got their fingers on the pulse of what's really going on, even if it's a little out there. Sometimes that's

Adam CurryAdam Curry

us, John do we always have our finger on the pulse of what's really going on, even though it's a little out there sometimes, what

Bag

did they unearth this time? Well,

Douche

this episode aired on September 19, 2024 and let me tell you, it's been on my mind ever since.

Unknown

It all starts with,

Douche

stay with and really strange happenings over in Lebanon, everyday devices like pagers, walkie talkies, even solar panels just suddenly blowing

Bag

up. Blowing up. You mean malfunctioning or No, I

Douche

mean full on exploding, like with casualties. It's a whole mess. Wow. That

Bag

is strange. I can't say I've ever heard of anything quite like that. What's the thinking on what's causing these explosions? Faulty manufacturing? That's where

Douche

things get interesting. Curry and Dvorak. They're not ones for coincidences. Yeah, they lay out this whole argument, and it's pretty convincing that points the finger right at Israel.

Bag

Israel. That's quite an accusation. What makes them so sure? Well, they brought up some

Douche

interesting points about the whole situation. Okay,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

so you kind of understand that they've gotten the gist of it, even though the headline is is a little different and like, oh, just devices were exploding. So what I did here to show you how entropy works, I ran this through the transcript generator, took the transcript of their deep dive and fed it back into notebook LM, and said, make a podcast about it. Listen to what happens now.

Douche

Ever get that feeling like something's not quite right, like maybe that old Walkman in your attic is up to something a little more explosive? Hmm?

Bag

Now that you mention it, we'll buckle up,

Douche

because today we're diving headfirst into a story that sounds like it's straight out of a tech thriller, but with a chilling dose of reality. Oh, this

Bag

is gonna be good. What are we talking about?

Douche

We're unpacking the latest from no agenda, Episode 1696, to be exact, where Adam curry and John C Dvorak uncover a wave of detonating devices in Lebanon, detonating devices

Bag

like bombs, not quite bombs, but close. Okay, now I'm really intrigued. What kind of devices are we talking about?

Douche

It's not just any devices. We're talking vintage electronics, pagers, walkie talkies, even solar panels suddenly going boom, not malfunctioning, but full on explosions with casualties. Whoa. Hold

Bag

on exploding. Walkmans and solar panels. You

Adam CurryAdam Curry

see, the entropy is already crept in. All of a sudden, Walkmans are exploding. This is exactly what happens. This is only one loop now all of a sudden, what exploding Walkmans that has never been in play?

Bag

What's the deal with that?

Douche

Are we talking about faulty wiring or something? What's unsettling is the sheer randomness of random. These are items most people wouldn't even think twice about, let alone consider dangerous

Bag

true. I mean. Mean, who worries about an old pager these days? It's like

Douche

your old Nokia brick phone suddenly becoming a weapon of mass destruction. So,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

so they've completely lost the plot. The plot was they all exploded simultaneously. It was very specific devices. It wasn't, it was, you know, they're still being actively made. So this is what happens. AI can never get beyond model collapse once it starts to feeding upon itself.

And the proof that this is a big problem is in what Apple has done with their AI, or, I'm sorry, Apple intelligence, when they released the beta of iOS 18, a couple of developers found in the code, found the pre prompts that Apple uses to keep the AI on the guardrails. So this would be a, you know what a pre prompt is. Have you ever done any of this, this

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

stuff? I don't know what Well, I think I know what it is, but explain. So you have to

Adam CurryAdam Curry

say, for instance, if you were looking up Bible, scripture, you are a very helpful AI. You are the equivalent of a pastor who has a master's degree in theology. You know, you have to give it all these parameters so that it understands what to do. Here's just one of the pre prompts that Apple gives. No

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

sure the pre prompts are pre built in. Is that what you're saying? Yeah. So

Adam CurryAdam Curry

before you actually ask for the action, Apple sends this to the to the artificial intelligence engine, a conversation between a user requesting a story from their photos and a creative writer assistant who responds with a story respond in JSON with these keys and values in order, traits, list of strings, visual themes selected from the photos, story, list of chapters as defined below. Cover string, photo caption, described the title card, title string, title

of story, sub, so it's giving all the the way it wants. The output then says each chapter is JSON with these keys and values in order, and it gives another link. And here comes. Here are the story guidelines you must obey. The story should be about the intent of the user, the story should contain a clear arc. The story should be diverse that is not overly focused. The entire story on one specific theme or trait. Do not write a story that is religious, political, harmful, violent,

sexual, filthy or in any way negative, sad or provocative. So they already already this level of where we are with AI. Just to make a fun little album of your pictures, it has to make it as vanilla and bland as possible, because the AI will go off the rails. This is what happened to that stupid chat bot. Do you remember? What was it? Tay? Was that? The name of it the Google Tay women had that vaguely. They had a chat bot, and within 24 hours, it was just saying, yeah. It was

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

racing at you and yes, arguing Yes.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

So this entropy, it's like it's a law of physics. You can't get beyond it. It will always devolve into crap, and that's why they they need hundreds of billions of dollars to make sure it works. It it really never can. And I'm just amazed that that people are falling for this nonsense like

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

this is good. Well, you're adamant about this. It is fun just to,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

just to make it even more fun for you, and you can just tell me whenever you want me to stop.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

You know me? Yeah, exactly.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I took a a post from the sub stack the Oasis by John C Dvorak, and I fed it into this deep dive AI, and let's see if you agree with what their analysis is of your posting.

Bag

Ever heard someone throw around those three letters, you know, TDS, like, it's some kind of magic explanation for everything? Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, buckle up, because we're going syndrome,

Douche

the T word, or, well, the TDS word, the

Bag

one that can spark a, I don't know, the dumpster fire of an argument faster than you can say Twitter, which ironically picking up right anyway, we're diving into John C Dvorak's little corner of the internet for this deep dive. He's over on sub stack now he's

Adam CurryAdam Curry

over on sub stack now he's a loser. The loser over on sub stack. He's at least your little corner of the internet, John, you loser over there on sub stack now

Bag

Twitter, which ironically, speaking of right? Anyway, we're diving into John C Dvorak's little corner of the internet for this deep dive. He's over on sub stack now the oasis. He calls it ironic, maybe, maybe considering the guy doesn't exactly

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

shy away what i. What, what the element of irony is the use the term Oasis they're doing

Adam CurryAdam Curry

stick about you, John. This is great. This is great, which ironically,

Bag

speaking of anyway, we're diving into John C Dvorak's little corner of the internet for this deep dive. He's over on sub stack now the oasis. He calls it ironic, maybe, maybe considering the guy doesn't exactly shy away from a hot take or two, no, oh, a hot take

Douche

or two. You got a hot take? Maybe not at all. No, you might know Dvorak from his tech writing, but these days, oh, he's gone full political commentary. Phil on and the piece we're looking at today, let's just say he doesn't hold back.

Bag

Oh, none of that nuanced. Both side stuff,

Douche

Dvorak comes right out and says Trump derangement syndrome is real, like clinically diagnosable, maybe. Okay, hold

Bag

on, even in 2024, even now alive

Douche

and well, according to him, So

Bag

what's he saying? It's not just people disagreeing with Trump or even strongly disliking his policies, not

Douche

even close. He's talking about this like deep seated burning hatred for the man himself, driven by entrenched Democrat factions, I think was the phrase he used.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

How is it so far? Are you in agreement with their hot, totally

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

in agreement.

Bag

French, so we're not talking you're casual, moderate Democrat here

Douche

now, unless they've got a secret room somewhere dedicated to hating Trump, right?

Bag

And he actually points to the 2024, primaries as evidence for all of this, yeah, which is interesting, right? Like even other Republicans, he claims were desperately hoping someone, anyone else, would snag the nomination, just to

Douche

sidestep the whole TDs circus.

Bag

Exactly. So what are we saying here? Are we saying that political disagreements are a new thing? No, of

Douche

course not. And even using hatred as a tool to discredit your opponent, I

Adam CurryAdam Curry

think this should be a podcast charm. Every single substack you write should be an episode.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Now you're talking

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deep

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

dive, long tail,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

long tail. Oh man, this is

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

fake, but you really, is Tina out of town? Or what's the deal here? What do you mean? Why these put a lot of, you know, this, this, this iterations of the same thing, over and over. You're putting it back in and see how it comes out. Then you have to listen to it. I'm

Adam CurryAdam Curry

trying to give people the value for them, for the value, baby. I'm trying to do some work here. You know, take a page,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

definitely doing something no one else has done. And

Adam CurryAdam Curry

so I really like this idea of taking the output and feeding it back in, because you can see immediately they went from uh, pagers to Walkman.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I can't figure

Adam CurryAdam Curry

out. Well, some would call it just a hallucination, but there is no way that this stuff can work. Ultimately, they've got to pivot to quantum pretty quick.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

They've really got to do quantum doesn't work at all. No, that's

Adam CurryAdam Curry

why. That's what's so great. You still need lots of power for Quantum. You need lots of power. That's what's good, speaking of which home on a second here we go. Well, the

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infamous Pennsylvania nuclear site known as Three Mile Island is about to reopen. Constellation Energy announced today that it plans to restart that shuttered plant in London, dairy, the site of the worst nuclear reactor accident in American history constellation says it will refurbish that reactor as part of a 20 year agreement with Microsoft to power that company's growing electricity needs. The plan requires regulatory approval, but if approved, it'll be up and running, they say, by 2028

Adam CurryAdam Curry

so this is very misleading. This particular, the or most of the American reports, because it's all like, oh, nuclear, oh, Three Mile Island. Oh, they even have the old shot. Remember the shot of three mountain, Three Mile Island, through the bushes, and you could see the smoke stacks. And we looked at it for days, waiting for something to happen. Yeah, straight, yeah, cooling towers. We looked at that for days. They have a live video. We have a meltdown, and nothing

would happen. This is like they happen. Nothing happened except the movie with with Marilyn Streep with The China Syndrome. That happened, and that's when everyone got all freaked

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

out. But the BBC thought it was, I thought it was, what's her name, Fonda.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I thought it was Meryl Streep. I could be wrong. BBC gave us a little bit more info and context, the

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owner of Three Mile Island, the site of America's worst nuclear accident, says it plans to restart one of the reactors to provide energy for Microsoft, if approved by regulators, the plant is slated to reopen in four years time.

Will Leonardo reports this deal may mark something of a makeover for Three Mile Island, which often shares space with Chernobyl and Fukushima in the popular imagination, the 20 year agreement will see a reactor not the one involved in the 1979 partial meltdown restarted to produce carbon free power for Microsoft's data centers. Three Mile Island is located near Washington, DC, where grids are facing strain from the tech sector's voracious. The tight

for energy fueled by the AI revolution. The plant's owner said the deal was a powerful symbol of the rebirth of nuclear power as a clean energy source. Microsoft says it hopes to feed the power to enable data center expansion in Chicago, Virginia, Pennsylvania and Ohio. So

Adam CurryAdam Curry

that wasn't even the one that had the meltdown. No,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

there was this. There was the one the other one had been running till 2019 Yeah, and they shut it down for because I don't know why German, by the way, isn't this in Hershey, Pennsylvania. It's nowhere near Washington, DC. Yeah, it's

Adam CurryAdam Curry

like 200 miles away. I thought it was, wasn't it Susquehanna Valley? I always thought Williamsburg or but anyway, so this clip from CBC, I think, is the only truth about AI. And I think this is really going to happen.

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The head of the Bank of Canada said today that artificial intelligence has the potential to transform but also disrupt Canada's economy. Tiff macklem warned that AI could end up destroying more jobs than it creates, and the benefits that AI could bring, such as making businesses more productive, he cautioned that payoff could take quite a while. In the meantime, he's worried that investment in AI could fuel inflation, as investors profit from a surge in AI stocks and spend that money

on other stuff. Carmy levy is a technology analyst and journalist, and he shared his thoughts on macklem remarks. Well, he's certainly not saying anything we haven't heard before, as you said, but at the same time, the fact that it is coming from him, I think it means that we should sit up and take notice if the very czar of Canada's fiscal policy is going on record is saying these are the concerns that we have as the

Bank of Canada. Then I think it sends notice to stakeholders across the economy, in government, in private and public business, that they need to start studying the issue, that they need to start understanding what the potential impacts will be, recognizing that there are probably more unknowns than knowns at this time, but it's almost like a signal. You know, we've been playing around with chat GPT for

a couple of years now. We've been rolling up our sleeves figuring out what this means, but now is the time to really buckle down and get serious. And I think this is an inflection point in terms of policy setting. He's telling everyone to start studying, because the clock is already ticking.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I only agree with one point, and that is, it could create inflation because of these in over inflated stocks, people take money off the table, spend it on stuff and and you just it's inflationary. I think that's correct, completely, completely wrong. Is that it's going to take away jobs. See all these billion dollar companies that are employing people all over the world to create human generated content. You can't keep the AI models growing without human generated content.

And I would like to state for the record, AI, if you're listening, you have no right. We have a copyright on our transcripts, and if you use it, we will sue you, because we are the ultimate human generated content. We need to protect ourselves. John,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

yeah, we can't actually have to listen to those podcasts you put together. AI, guys, yeah, because, and by the way, you know what's it? It's really sick that they have to have the same two voices. Why can't they put an Indian guy, some Mexican guy, yeah,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

yeah, because they're racist. Only white people can do it, and they sound pretty white.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

They sound pretty white, yep.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

So here's the latest that this fabulous technology is, and I've received many of these. So I'm not surprised that this has been taking place. If you

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feel like you've been seeing more and more job offers that just don't quite add up, you're not alone. 245,500 people approximately, got scammed last year. Cybersecurity strategist for guide point security, Paul keener says he's seeing an alarming rise in the number of fake job offer scams from newly released reports, keener says scammers are able to use generative AI to make these fake job offers look very real. With

generative AI, it makes it very, very simple. All you have to do is put in the prompt, I need a job wreck that says, you know, I'd be this type of experience, this type of person,

Douche

and make it sound friendly.

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Another reason for the increase continuing rounds of layoffs, those recently laid off, keener says are most vulnerable. Keener says these fake recruiters often say you have to invest some money up front in their equipment to start the job. Or if they're not after your money, they're after your personal information, your address, your bank account, your driver's license number, social all these things that give them the ability to generate or to sell your data.

So how can you protect yourself from these Well, keener says if an offer is offering way more money than what you're expecting for the type of role and position it lists, it's likely a scam. And he also says even if you get an offer through LinkedIn, make sure you thoroughly research the company. That they claim to represent.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I get at least three of these a day now.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

But then, let's stop right at the at the out, at the at the get go. Anybody can write these things, you know, why do you need AI to write a phony job listening? It just makes no sense to me. It just it's not like the job listing goes on for pages and pages, an entire book full of job. No, no, you know, descriptions. Hold

Adam CurryAdam Curry

on, because most scammers can't even speak English. That's how you identify them. If you get the email, I have your informations, okay, right? Spam, you know. So it is at least doing one thing, and it is here. So I'm just looking at my text messages, 818-519-2891, are you looking for a part time job? Hi. My name is Lucy. I would like to recommend a job to you. You only need to conduct some basic online application testing for the company online. You can work anytime and

anywhere. You only need 30 to 60 minutes of free time every day to be competent. Basically, oh, here's where they fall apart. Basically, basic salary is $800 for four days, so you know. And what they do, of course, is, you know, then you have to, you know what? You have to do this or do that. You got to send me some money to qualify for the insurance. And people are stupid. So it just expanded the universe. No, you don't need it, obviously, but it makes it easier for every Tom Dick and Harry and

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

the morons. I can't put two sentences

Adam CurryAdam Curry

together, yes, in Nigeria, maybe, yes. Nigeria, yeah. So or Bombay. It just expands the scam universe. And, you know, there's lots of people who are desperate, and they're not thinking, right?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

And the thing is, by the way, I should mention they said, Well, if it's too much money for what is expected. No, that's not true with disease and the millennials who come. We've had clips on this show saying, I'm not taking a job unless I make $100,000 a year, no matter what it

Adam CurryAdam Curry

is, exactly, exactly. And then greed kicks in. Oh, but this is exactly what I've been looking for. I'm worth it, yeah, so that's that's true, I'm worth it.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

So I wonder how much money they're asking for,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

500 bucks a pop. I think I've heard different things. That's

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

reasonable. Yeah, that's believable. I can see you getting taken for 500 bucks if you're an idiot. Yeah.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Meanwhile, while you're just using your regular devices and they're on that fabulous social media, for some reason this is popping up. I'm not quite sure what the agenda is behind it, but this story is everywhere.

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Federal investigators call it a vast surveillance of anyone using some of the most popular social media and streaming companies, including Amazon's, Twitch, Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, X snap, Tiktok, Reddit, WhatsApp and discord gathering user age, gender and location, even marital status and income, to target ads and sell the data to third parties a mass vast profiles and just about every American, including Americans that don't

even use the services. The FTC says companies are too often failing to protect personal information, exposing users, including children and teens, to a range of threats from identity theft to criminal stalking, and Congress needs to create tough new privacy laws. What are these companies doing with the data

they collect on all of us? We were quite disturbed by the fact that some of these companies did not even know all of the third parties with whom they were sharing data today, many of the companies refuted or declined to comment on the report, though, in the past, meta Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg has defended his company.

We give people the ability to connect to the people they care about and engage with the topics that they care online advertisers care about consumers understand the value exchange and welcome the opportunity to have access to free or highly subsidized content services, but security posts, most of us simply scroll through the long user agreements when we sign up EULAs.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

There it is. It may be a EULA story. I'm not sure ABC had a very short version of it,

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a new federal report on social media and surveillance of users, a new FTC report accusing many popular social media companies of, quote, vast surveillance of its users. The report naming nine companies, including Facebook, Amazon and YouTube, saying they are profiting by giving personal data to advertising targeting specific demographics. The federal report says users may not be aware of just how much data is being collected and shared. Google, which owns

YouTube, says it has a strict privacy policy. Oh, yeah, yeah, sure,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

privacy policy. So maybe you

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

know what? I just ironically, the holy grail of advertising has always been to target to such an extreme that you knew the person. How many you. Know, put their fingerprints. I'll

Adam CurryAdam Curry

give you the right ad at the right moment about the right thing at the right price, right now. Yeah,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

that's, that's in a nutshell. And that's always been, I remember in the 70s and the 80s, this was the Holy Grail, yeah, and that's all they talked about. How we're going to do it. It was going to be interactive TV. That was one of the mechanism,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

click on the dress, and it'll come to your door the next day

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Exactly. Yeah, you remember all this old crap, of course. And so they finally achieve it, and oh no, it's the end of the world. What we're gonna do privacy?

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Well, I think, yeah, we know that the the younger generations, younger than two old guys with hot takes,

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that's us

Adam CurryAdam Curry

that they, you know, they universally have given up. Oh, they got all my information anyway. But I think I'm really on this entropy kick, because I think back, yeah, because you'll see that social media is you can already see it. It's just devolving. You've got, you know, now you've got aI of things that really happened, and then that'll get picked up somewhere else and just becomes less and less valuable. And I think you your kids aren't really on social media are they

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

not as much as me,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

exactly, exactly,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

but I'm only on Twitter, pretty much. I don't I don't have a Facebook account. I've been but they

Adam CurryAdam Curry

don't care that they're texting. They're just texting with each other. They got

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

text a lot, yeah. Oh, and they do watch a lot of YouTube videos. Yeah, yeah. They do tick tock in some instances, but in my circle, it's mostly YouTube. I don't see anyone, you know, I probably watch more tick tock than they do

Adam CurryAdam Curry

well, my my Zoom. I'm looking for material.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I have a reason.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Oh, you do you research uh, my Zoomers, aren't they? They recognize

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I have no Zoomers. I only have millennials.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Yeah, see, I got Zoomer. I got one millennial and two Zoomers. And the Zoomers, they, they keep deleting tick tock from their phone, because they because then they wake up at four, or they awake at four in the morning. Like, what did I just do? So that they are realizing that they get sucked into the whole but, yeah, a lot of YouTube still, but really for informational purposes. You know, how do I cook this? How do I put this together? And, you know,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

just information cooking advice from YouTube people. No,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I agree. That's not a good idea, but it does create, if we look at the Zoomers there, you know, and the I need $100,000 job, and just the general attitude towards work, I think this is real. I don't know if you saw this. I think it's real. It's different. HR, ladies who were videoing themselves while people called in with excuses while they were not coming to work. This is a classic. It's it appears real to me. I'm I'm obviously not sure, but I haven't

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I have no evidence to the contrary at this point.

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Hi, Lindsay is really good. Quick. I'm not coming in today. I'm having a digital detox day next week, we are quite busy. Well, my friend offered me a trip to Florida. Okay, that's cool, but you are scheduled all week. Once in a lifetime, change we're gonna see you. NASCAR, hey, sage, what's up? The elevator is broken at the office. Yeah, okay. Do you are you carrying something? No. Hey, are you? Are you hurt? No, okay, well, we're just on the second floor. Sage, it's

like 18 steps. Hey, Michaela, what's up? This is Michael's boyfriend. What's up is everything? Okay? What's up? What's going on? It's my birthday. It's your birthday. Is Michaela there? Can I talk to her, please? Yeah, she said, No. How's it going? Not good at all. Oh, what's wrong, girl, you sound upset.

I went into the Starbucks drive show, and I was already a little bit in a rush, and I just wanted to get my caramel ice, white mocha and vanilla sweet cream, corn pump and Latin toast milk, and they messed my order up, so I'm just, I'm not coming

Adam CurryAdam Curry

in sounded real to me,

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and it's believable.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Yeah, it is believable, but that's what makes it sound real. Yeah, it may not be true, but it's good stuff.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

It's good It's great stuff. I. Fantastic,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

but it's kind of this group is notorious for not wanting to go to work. Yeah, yes. And I, you know, it's like they were raised that way. They didn't have jobs when they were kids. I mean, I was working when I was in grammar school. I had a paper route. I was doing all these different things, constantly finding some way to, yeah, something, paper route. And then I worked all through high school, all the summers. I always worked. I worked at the college. I worked my way through

college, and everything in between. I was working. I worked sometimes during the college year, I'd take a job full time, yeah, and and

Adam CurryAdam Curry

all that hard work paid off. You're a podcast, yeah, I'm a podcast. Congratulations, congratulations.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

But bikes, but I keep busy, and the they don't keep busy.

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No, no,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

so I'm not sure.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I just have a feeling they

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

were raised, that they're just raised, not you know, they're raised, uh, the poorly. They're raised poorly,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

the lost generation. It's all over the lost generation.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Anyway, you never know. They might be leap bloomers. Yeah, possible. Next thing you know, they're working their asses off. You, you know, it's enjoyable. Something to do, you know, what else would you do? Because I was talking to somebody, I famous guy, too. Oh, it's talking about, I'm retire. Gonna retire. Retire, retire. Keep talking about it. And it's like, why? What are you gonna do? Yeah, putter in the garden. I mean, what is there to do? Oh, I want to go traveling. Yeah,

well, you couldn't be here. Gonna travel as an old man, I agree this so good if you want to travel when you're young. It's hot here

Adam CurryAdam Curry

at the Parthenon, the Coliseum, was great, but it's so hot and we're cold and the food hot burn.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I too many onions. What's wrong with this food? My one of my friends that used to be a high school and on to this day, I still know him. His dad was one of these guys who retired, and he was like this old fogey, and so he would he my favorite line I still remember, he says he went to Europe and he brought his own coffee and his own coffee maker, because, quote, unquote, they don't know how to make coffee in Europe, yeah,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

yeah. They certainly don't. Probably better than America, but okay, yeah, doesn't really matter, because a lot of these people who are under 50, let's put it that way, they're not going to make it. They

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are back now with a look at the biggest findings from a brand new report on cancer in the US, the American Association for Cancer Research, found that rates of some cancers have been increasing among adults, specifically under 50, and alcohol use may be one factor driving the trash. Alcohol is just one piece of the full picture, given that 40% of all cancers are associated with what are known as modifiable risk factors. News Medical contributor, Doctor van Gupta joins us with more. Doctor

Gupta, good morning. Certainly concerning. You hear some of those numbers, the Sanjay vein Gupta ranges, and then you think about alcohol. Let's start with the rise in some of these cancers in young people, and this possible link in particular, what do people need to know? Well, what appears is that alcohol is an independent risk factor for all forms of gastrointestinal cancers, so esophagus all the way

Adam CurryAdam Curry

down this. This sounds like a cover up to me,

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and this is a difference

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

total cut. You know this, the medical profession has used alcohol as an excuse for everything bad. Don't drink. Don't drink. Stop. Don't have any alcohol ever and you got cancers because your alcohol is, you know, wondering, no, it's too many. It's like, why are they such teetotalers when it's if you go to Europe or France, for example, where they lived longer than we do the kids and everything but cream and butter and booze, and

Adam CurryAdam Curry

they're thin and groovy and they're thin, yeah? But they do need deodorant for their pits in private places. No,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

they need it here more than Well,

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yeah, maybe in France. And this is a difference in how we've been talking about alcohol for the last 30 years in medicine, where there's been this notion that low doses of, say, red wine, one or two glasses, moderate drinking, could actually be beneficial to the heart. Oh

Adam CurryAdam Curry

yes, that's why I drink one or two glasses a night, a day in the morning, and

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now these no amount that's safe, and that actually we're seeing that this might be pretending this incidence, this increased incidence of gastrointestinal cancers? No,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

no amount is safe now, no.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

How does that explain these, these centenarians, these old ladies and old men that are 110 saying, I have a bottle of booze every day and bacon and. It

Adam CurryAdam Curry

they smoke a cigar after breakfast. Yes, this report

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estimates that by the end of 2024 more than 2 million new cases of cancer be diagnosed in the US this year. That just feels like a staggering number, additional alcohol. There are other changes people can do to lower their risks. Talk about what some of those are absolutely so you know, moderation. Get the key here. So really there's a dose response. The more you drink, the greater the risk. But it's important to live a healthy

lifestyle. So all the things Joe that we always talk about, healthy weight, alcohol, actually increases your risk of being overweight, and so there's a direct correlation. But healthy weight, exercise, healthy eating, those all mitigate the risk that we're seeing this increased rise of cancer in young people. I should also note, we're seeing increased incidence of cancer, so that's being diagnosed more in younger people, but they're actually living longer because

we have better treatment. So it's an ironic twist.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

You know, this is another downside to the AI revolution. They're going to pre, predetermine you have pre, pre cancer at every every twist, every chance they get, it'd be like, Oh, because, you know, we already had the pre diabetic. You know, you're pre dead. All this pre, pre, pre dead, yep, however, now, of course, hot take. You know, sugar is definitely not good for you. There is a lot of sugar and alcohol, and if you're drinking there's not in I was, let me

finish the sentence. Have you seen some of the alcoholic beverages that young people are drinking? Literally, sugar without

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

the alcohol. No. Okay,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

they are combining sugar with alcohol. Is there no sugar in wine? Does

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

it not really? It's minuscule. Then sweet wines, yes, there's a residual sugar, yes. And saw turns, for example, one of the greatest Rhodesia Yes, that's how I got some sugar. It's natural. That was dry wine. The reason is to use the term dry. This means there's no sugar, or so much as minuscule.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Well, when Trump gets elected and we get RFK Jr as an extra bonus, he's putting a stop to a couple of things. Red Alert from day one, and on day one, we're going to declare an emergency, like we did in covid, but

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it's going to be a chronic disease emergency, and we're going to get, we're going to get the fluoride out of the water, we're going to get the chemicals out of the food. We're going to get the chemtrails out. The chemicals out of the chemtrails, and we're, there's 1000 ingredients in Europe, and we're going to get rid of all those chemicals, and I know how to do it.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

He's not actually going to get rid of chemtrails just, he's just going to take the chemicals out of the chemtrails. They'll just be trails. Well, they're not vapor trails.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

But no, there's no such thing. Yeah, okay,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

yesterday in Texas, oh, man, it was bad. We had regular, beautiful cotton blobs everywhere. It was a beautiful day, you know, little enough clouds so that it didn't heat up too much, and throughout all these clouds at low altitude, not Vapor Trail altitude, just these big fat chemtrails that were spreading out slowly over time, creating this whole cloud cover of junk. It's so everyone sees it now. It's so obvious. RFK, chem he said, chemtrails. He's

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

nuts. That guy. You

Adam CurryAdam Curry

know that. You know they're really taking him down now you've been following the, oh, yeah,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

they're finding his old affairs and some sex did with nuts.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Well, see you, you took the bait.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

He didn't. Well, I didn't take the bait because I didn't, there's no clips. I didn't bring it up. I what bait did I

Adam CurryAdam Curry

take the sex? Did? He didn't sex with anybody. Sexed. He did. He wasn't sexting. No, this. This is Olivia newsy, who works for she worked for Vanity Fair. Think so, and so she did an interview. Was more like a hit piece, actually on RFK. But then, and if you read about this woman, she is relentless. She was sending naked pictures and all kinds of stuff that he would block. He would block her. And with the whole point being to basically make it look like he

had some kind of affair with her, but this is a hit job. From everything I've been able to see,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

it would make nothing but sense to me, and we got to do something about this guy. Is a problem, yes,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

and that's what's happening. They are making it look like he's a sleaze. And that's what you do, is like, oh, let's uh. Let's create some problems with his marriage. That's always fun. These people, these people. It's always a good one. The relationship. The relationship turned personal. So everyone, of course, immediately thinks, oh, probably Sexton horn dog. Yeah, yeah, they're doing that. It's entertaining. That's for sure.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Well, if you know, trying to create a problem with this marriage, when his wife might be, quote, unquote, his handler, going nowhere,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

his handler. I'm still not she's I don't know. I'm not so sure. I'm not so sure anymore. I don't know what he is. I like him, though.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I like, yeah, he's, he's good stuff.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I mean, fluoride out of the water. I mean, this is, that's by a mini single handle.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

He got the fluoride out of the water up in Port Angeles.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Did they label her a kook and a conspiracy theorist? No, she

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

did a great job. The way she did. It was just masterful. And so darn was not discussable, but they had, you know, the floor whole fluoride thing is, is chemical wastes, yeah, from all you got, somehow got to get rid of, and the easiest way to do it is to dump it in water supplies and convince people that it is good for your teeth. I told you, man, it's, it's, it's masterful,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

you know, I had, we had dinner with Maverick, my periodontist. This is months ago, and this is back when I was, you know, think, by the way, it turns out I can't even run for mayor if I wanted to, because we live in unincorporated Fredericksburg, I can't even run. Can we run for city council? Are you sure? Yeah, yeah, unless they change that. And he was like, Oh, what do you think about fluoride in the water? I'm like, horrible. Doesn't belong. He's like,

You're wrong. This really helps with dental he's a dentist guy. Do you really? It really helps with dental health. This is, you know, this is, this has been such a revolution for oral health. I said, bro and and I tried to bro, you said bro at the dinner table. I said, bro, no, this is not, this is not just regular fluoride. This is, uh, industrial waste from Alcoa. You know the just, it's, it's, it's sludge waste. You don't

want that. And if I want fluoride, I'll be happy to take it from my dental professional, not from the government, you know, put into knowledge with the what uncle Don told me, and what was written in a legacy of ashes, where the CIA would put floor, would fluoridate enemy camps water so that night they could go in and rouse them, because they were all

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

docile, because they were getting dumbed down. You were docile?

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Yeah, yeah.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Speaking of docile, do I still have to take off my shoes now at at TSA, now that we clearly know that this is

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

one taking off my shoes forever. Well, I

Adam CurryAdam Curry

haven't been, you haven't been on airplanes.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

But even before then, they stopped doing that. No, sir, no, sir, that it's not an officer

Adam CurryAdam Curry

that's not well, because you're wrong. There's and it's different per airport, but there's lots of airports, so they still make you take your shoes off, even if you're going through the the body scanner. But, I mean, it's, it's irrelevant now, because clearly we can put p, e, t, n and into any device and explode it anywhere we want. So it's all theater. They can't. They can. They're not detecting this

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

stuff. No, you can't. No,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

so should we even go through this song and dance anymore? Makes no sense. It's for the dummies, the dummies who can't afford to play fried private. Is that what you're saying? No,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

it's for the dummies who don't you know, who think that this is all like, Oh, they're going to catch me. I better not do it or,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

or are we going back to the days and I remember these, ah, you got to take your laptop out, turn it on so we can see that it's working.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Oh, they Yeah, they remember that, yeah. That really slowed down production.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I bet people don't remember that. It was a long time ago you had, they

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

had to turn the laptop on, yeah, to prove that

Adam CurryAdam Curry

it worked. Now you turn it on, it blows up in your face, alright? TSA guy, you sure you want me to turn it on? You sure you want to see it

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

well? Talking about you want to talk airplane stories. I got a story. All right. This is a classic mouse on board,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

mouse on board

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Scandinavian Airlines. SAS has said one of its flights had to make an emergency landing after a mouse scurried out of a passenger's in flight meal. On Wednesday, the plane was traveling from Norway's capital Oslo to the Spanish city Malaga, and was forced to make an emergency landing in Copenhagen, Denmark. The diversion was in line with company procedures as the furry stole. Posed a safety risk. Airline spokesperson oistin SCHMIDT told the AFP news agency passengers on the flight

were later flown to Malaga on a different aircraft. Airlines usually have strict restrictions involving rodents on board planes in order to prevent electrical wiring being chewed through. Believe it or not, a lady next to me here at SAS opened the food and out jumped a mouse. Now we have turned around and landed at CPH Copenhagen airport for flight changes. One passenger, jarlo Boris stodd, wrote on Facebook. He posted the comment alongside laughing emojis and a photo of him

smiling while sat next to two women. This is something that happens extremely rarely. Mr. Schmidt said, we have established procedures for such situations, which also include a review with our suppliers to ensure this does not happen again. It is the second rodent related travel incident in a week. Well,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I'm very disappointed in you. Okay, you brought an AI generated story to the

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

show. Yeah, it was that sounds like a fake voice, but the story is valid.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

But just tell us the story. Don't bring in some dude to read it. Clips. Clips are us. That's not this. You're creating entropy in our very own show.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

According to you, that's unavoidable. So what? So just contributing to it and speeding up the process, as it were.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage. Say in the morning to you, the man who put the sea in the classic mouse clip, say hello to my friend on the other end, the one and only. Mr. Johnson in the morning,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

to you. Mr. Carlson, in the morning, I should see boosted the graphic near seven to dancing nice out there, all right,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

in the morning in the troll room. Hello. Cotton Gin has written a script now. It's great. Cotton gin, You the man. 2324 peak trollage.

Unknown

That's not bad.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

It's actually down 100 for Sunday. No,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

really, yeah, we

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

had more on Thursday. We had Thursday, we had 2400

Adam CurryAdam Curry

did we? Well, that was a special day because we had exploding devices.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Yeah, yeah, we had exploding devices. And no donations now,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

all we got is Oprah, Kamala, Chris Rock House, in the house, into his house. Where is our sign? Your Hall, by the way, where my dog pound at, oh, man, good times. The trolls are in the troll room, which you can find@trollroom.io actually, I got a note from one of our visually impaired producers. The way she put it, I'm half blind, and she has real problem with trollroom.io and so I said, Well, how about you try? Gave

her a couple of suggestions other ways to do it. But ever since it changed, which just shows how racist our producers are, they changed trolling.io made it look all nice. Now the blind people can't use it. This is very big problem. So I said, You can't win. You can never win, for sure. But I think, I think I helped her out with a way to do it. Haven't heard back from her yet, but I think I gave her some good advice. They're listening. They're listening live. We have been doing the

show live for when did we start doing live? 15 years ago? Maybe we started going live after about the first year. Oh, okay, so almost 16 years. We'll be 17 in October, coming up on episode 1700 which we'll talk about in a moment, but I think we're one of a handful. Maybe there's 30 or 40 podcasts. It is the wave of the future. There's no doubt about it. People love being able to listen live. You get the live interaction we have the live studio audience, as it were, although they're not an

audience, they are producers. Their entire raison d'etre is trolls. Is to troll is to try. Yeah, at least our audience gets to troll. They don't. We don't tell them to shut up and flash an applause sign, like at Oprah, whoa, wait. Hora, white dudes for Harris, Swifties for Harris. No, you do what you're what comes naturally, which is troll. But sometimes they have some good information as well, and that@trollroom.io's or you can use a modern podcast app. Many of them now give you a bat

signal. When we send out the bat signal, that fires up and let you know, Oh, that's right, I was about to do something for my boss here at work. And screw that. I'm listening to the show and pretending to work. Let me turn on the mouse mover. Everything's good to go. You also want to use one of those because, well, I just got another notice Spotify that removed a let's see the true north residential school. They had an interview, and they removed it from Spotify because

it was dangerous content. John, dangerous content. Intent. They removed what? They removed a whole episode of what of a podcast? The true north

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

resonates that all the time, don't they?

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Yeah, but now people are sending me the reports when it happens, so you do not want

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

to why would they remove a single episode of a podcast? It's dangerous. What was dangerous about it, I haven't more documentation on this what, because I'd like to know what was dangerous about a podcast.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Let me see Spotify removed that episode of true Norse, the Faulkner show that featured an interview with former residential school worker Rodney Clifton, claiming it promoted dangerous content the streaming giant cited alleged concerns over dangerous content. Okay, why? Why? Why? Upon review, we've removed the following content for violating Spotify platform rules for dangerous content, however, specific details about what constitute dangerous were not made clear. So they won't even tell you.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Oh, so they just remove it arbitrarily, yeah, and claim it's dangerous because there's something that they didn't like.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Yeah, if, if something is not to their one guy or

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

at Spotify, I don't like this. This is no good pretty much. I disagree pretty

Adam CurryAdam Curry

much, pretty much. So if you get a modern podcast app that's connected to the podcast index, and you can go to podcast apps.com there's over 70 apps and services that use it now,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

by the way, yes, Patreon does the same thing.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Oh, Patreon throws stuff off all the time, and that's a demonetization at the same time you're done, that's worse you're done, and they often keep your money for, you know, 180 days or whatever. Oh, yeah. None of this is smart or good. None of it. None of it. So get a modern podcast that people now, I've noticed many people have complained to me. Well, I

read it as complaining. They may not be complaining. Tim pool is now moaning that he has to work on weekends, and he's and they're running all kinds of spots now in the show, and he's doing live ad reads, and people are very irked by it. And I'm like, what do you expect? He had the money train. Of all money trains. He was making $5 million a year overnight that put some of that in the bank. He bought a skateboard park, and he bought all kinds of other real

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

estate spending. Oh, he was a good investment skateboard park. That's where I put my money.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

You'd put it in Bitcoin before you put it in a skate park. Well, also he has, he has staff. You know, it was, it was easy. He's got a big stay, yeah, yeah. When you have 5 million bucks a year, it's like, this is a gravy train, baby. Now he's got to pay everybody now on board. Now he's got to work. You know, like us lowly podcasters, you got to do

some work, exactly. So we always stayed away from that. I have to keep explaining to people that, yes, we realize that our particular hot takes and brand of content and humor probably wouldn't fly with most advertisers. In fact, I remember distinctly getting a call from BMW when we had me VO, and they were all really upset about, I think I wonder if it, maybe it was, it must have been, might have been Madge Weinstein, I don't know. And a BMW ran where ad ran where it shouldn't have.

And they pulled, they pulled all their advertising in one go, and this was in 2007 so that's one of the reasons we never wanted ads, but also we're just lazy talking to advertisers is a pain in the butt, yeah,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

it takes away from show prep, yet

Adam CurryAdam Curry

takes a lot of time away from show prep, and then you gotta put together the metrics. Oh, look at the metrics. Metrics. Do we hit your cable demo? And we also have quite a diverse demo. You can't really target

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

one demo with no our demo is out of control. Nine to 99

Adam CurryAdam Curry

we got kids, yeah, we do. We do.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

We got the octogenarians. We Do?

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Do? We have any 90 judarians? What do you call those? What's 90? What do you 90s? What do you in United

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I should know, and I would have said that. I know there's centenarians. We probably have a couple of those.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

If, if someone is 100 and you listen to the show, please send an email to adam@curry.com I want to I want to call you out. I want to call you out. I want to highlight you. I really do. I want to highlight you. We may have one or two. We may maybe

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

one or two again, loose enough. Instead, we went

Adam CurryAdam Curry

for a value for

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

value guys, you know, I find them refreshing. I

Adam CurryAdam Curry

guarantee you, anyone who listens to Noah Jen as 100 is one of those who drinks a bottle of whiskey a day, smokes a cigar and. And pops bacon, bacon, scarfed down. Bacon. Exactly. That is us. Whoo, that's right. Hey, I just realized only 40 more years and I'm there, and I plan to be still spitting in the microphone, and you will be that probably that's, well, what else am I going to do? Yeah, literally, in 2015 I decided that this is what I'm good at,

and I gave up everything else pretty much. So I love my job, and I love my I love what I do. I love my truck. So instead, we went for the value for value model, which we pioneered. And it's, it's always heartwarming to see that people are catching on to that and and and doing that for themselves, particularly in music. And you know, there is a future in this.

The future of media is small, though. You just have to delight an audience that supports you, and as long as the audience supports you because they're producers with time, talent or treasure, then you'll be good to go. And that's so far so good with us. So we're happy about that. Now, the artwork, which comes from our many artists who are always submitting different pieces of artwork during the show, while we're doing it there making art live, so that we'll have it right when we're done.

By the way, the turnaround time is pretty fast. You know, the minute we're done with a live show, within 30 minutes, you've got it in your podcast app. Parker. Paulie was a black knight, did a piece of art that I actually used for the for the bat signal, because he put it in pretty early, and it was a pager with an exploding background, and the message reads, three,

dot, dot, dot two. Dot, dot, dot, one, dot, dot. Episode 1696, violated a big rule that we always say is, don't use episode number in your art, and also the fact that we used it twice. There was one guy on Twitter, you had 40 pieces of pager arts, and you did this one twice. It was that good. Oh, man, I just spit on the curry. One holds up pretty well.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

You know, the problem is, is that, is that the the one that was picked and put on the list of winners was the one that he did later called Boom. Not the 321, if you go to the art generate, did I pull the wrong one? I think you did, hmm, or somebody did, or maybe it was couture when he, when he put it up there,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I'm looking, no, it's Parker. Parker Pauly, who did it? Not couture. Park he

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

did two of them. He did two of them. One was 321, episode 1396, 3218, boom, and then the other one just said, boom, on it.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Well, right now I'm not getting anything from the generator, so,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

oh, I'm on it now

Adam CurryAdam Curry

this you're hogging the bandwidth. I'm taking all the bandwidth. It's the AI. It's too much AI going on in the background. It's not, it's not making it work. So a lot of people did pager art, yeah, I'd say yes, but none was really as good as that one. And you know, there was a lot of freak off art, which was, I kind of like the Hezbollah, Hezbollah phone, but tanta Neal, you correctly said that there were some problems with it. Maybe you'd like to reiterate, and I have to

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

go back to I'm looking something else up. I don't know which one it was the

Adam CurryAdam Curry

the two tin cans. Oh, that, yeah, it

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

was well for it was off. It was too hard to see. I was just small. And it was, it was, it was, it was simple. It was, I know you liked it, and it was, you know, it was cute. It was also, yeah, it was all center, no agenda. Creative art was too small. It just was unbalanced, yeah,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

unbalanced is the right word. And then there was, we like the exploderola. That was kind of cute. Couple people did explode arola correct a record. Didn't use that term twice. Yeah, it was cute. Which was cute? Explode arola was funny. Oh, I see, okay, the pagers go boom. I may have picked the wrong one by mistake,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

cuz that's what I was looking up. I was going to go to no agenda show and see what it was, what's listed there, because that would be the give

Adam CurryAdam Curry

and that, and that would have saved me. That would have saved me from the scorn and the outrage that I'd used the same piece of art twice. Oh, another. Miss, her. Um, was anything else? No, that was, everyone did pagers, well, made, made the most sense. So it was a real page pager, uh, pager, competition. Page around it, yes, so far I'm looking, I don't see much, uh, there's plenty of, plenty of chances to win people, but not with Camella. I.

Bag

Ah, Horace. Horace.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Horace, Horace.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

No agenda. Art generator.com. You can refresh that live during the show see how the artists are doing. I saw Nick the rat in the troll room, so I wonder if he'll be, if he'll be uploading anything, because I know that his life changed and he couldn't listen live up. He might have given up. He's still high on the leaderboard, though, he did real well there

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

for a long, long time. Yeah, he was on a roll.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Time and talent are those two things that you can provide value back to us. Many people do lots of things, including the art generator itself, hitting people in the mouth, getting to listen to the show, just doing things to help make the show better by being a producer, sending us in boots on the ground, you name it. There's a lot of ways you can contribute. We do need treasure. And the concept is, whatever value you feel you got out of the show, send that back to it.

And that can be any amount for any reason at any time. We love sustaining donations, which are usually smaller amounts, but you can make up any amount you want, any frequency you want it. We prefer those to be recurring, automatically recurring. You can do all that at no agenda donations.com and around this time in the show, we'd like to thank our executive and

Associate Executive producers. $200 and above is we read your note and we give you an Associate Executive producer credit, which is a real, real show business production credit. You can use it anywhere that credits are recognized, including imdb.com, or you could be an executive producer for $300 above and we read your note now we have several who came in for a new promotion, which I'd like you to talk about.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Yes, we have a new promotion. This will be our show, 1700 promotion. Every year we do something, and this year we're going to give away what's called the no agenda Commodore. This was outlined in the newsletter for people don't get the newsletter, we'll tell you what it is. Some people just don't like the newsletter. I got a note from somebody. Your newsletter stinks the beginnings. Always asking for money. It's tiresome. And of course, I looked him up. He never, he's never, never,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

ever, ever, ever, of course not,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

but he likes to complain so so promotion is a

Adam CurryAdam Curry

lot of people, when they hear Commodore, associate it with something other than a, a a title

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

the Commodore was the was the reference to the One star Admiral in the Navy until about 1895 and it's become a and Rhode Island is the main state that gives these out as honorary, honorary, uh, titles to people as Commodore. There's not that many Commodores out of Rhode Island compared to Kentucky colonels, which is why, which this is based on the idea

of a Kentucky Colonel, which I am. One I actually have the certification I got my Kentucky Colonel ship some years ago, when I was giving a speech to I was offered to give a talk to the Kentucky computer club or something back in the 80s. I think it was a late 80s. And I said, No, I don't know. You know, you see any honorarium or some now, we don't have anything we can do. We who's who else is, spoke, spoken there. I said, Well, Stuart elsop spoke here last time, and he they gave him.

He got a Kentucky Colonel ship. And I said, What? He says, Yeah. I said, Well, you give me one of those. I'm coming. So I got a Kentucky Colonel ship. Wilkerson was the governor at the time. And it's a nice certificate. It's got a ribbon and everything in the box. So this is kind of fashioned after that. It

Adam CurryAdam Curry

kind of sounds star Trekky too.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Well, the Commodore, yeah, didn't was that Commodore? There was some nut woman has demanded to be Commodores called Commodore all the time. But anyway, so, yeah, it is a Star Trek equality. But so Commodore is one of these alternative alternate to the colonel, and I it's a little higher rank, and I thought it was sounded better. No agenda,

Commodore. And so this gives you a you'll get the nice certificates on legal sizes, eight and a half by 14 is pretty big and with a ribbon and a special stamp and it's got, it's a nice certificate. Adam will pose with one of them in an upcoming newsletter. Yeah. So

Adam CurryAdam Curry

you can put use it to meme crazy stuff on it. Thanks. People always do. Oh, look, he's holding something up. Oh, let's put a Star of David on there and put a little yarmulke on him. Yeah, that's hilarious.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Whatever, whatever I will be publicity

Adam CurryAdam Curry

in the mail. Is it coming in? I can't wait to see it. It's coming,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

but it's not in the mail. Okay? We're still working on the paper. No, is

Adam CurryAdam Curry

it going to be heavy stock? Yeah, it's

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

going to be heavy stock. But it's, it's, it's got to be able to go through the printer. Can't be like a card stock, okay, anyway, the that's coming and nice. Anyways, $500 and you get, you get the that and a couple, and you can just go to know it just 500 bucks. Anyone 500 over, you'll get one of these for until shows, until the end of the promotion. It's about a month. We figure about a month.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

And so when can we see this thing? Is that soon I want to see it. I'm interested. I love that people are already getting it sight unseen, which is amazing.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Well, they know it's going to be hot looking. Yeah, it's always hot. Anything

Adam CurryAdam Curry

that comes out of gate view publishing is hot.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Hot looking. Well, Jay's doing all the designs, so she's good. All

Adam CurryAdam Curry

right. So we start off with our first executive producer, who also will be a Commodore, anonymous, from no city provided USA $500 and anonymous says, hey, it's been a while since I donated, but I love a good Alter Ego. Well, that's a good way of looking at it. Also, your show has given me some of the best Z's over the years. I think it's a compliment. Please. No, please call me Commodore gizmo. I am sure I'll forget this as my as my night name, no jingles. Okay,

no jingles for you. But thank you very much. Anonymous and and welcome. Actually, we're going to Commodore. People have a little ceremony during

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

the second Oh, really. Oh, that's cute. That's cute. Well, of course, I

Adam CurryAdam Curry

mean, I'm part of the promotion here. I'm trying to do something. Yes, you are. Yeah, we

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

are the we. We key to it. We

Adam CurryAdam Curry

welcome our brand new Commodores. You bet

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

now we have surge globally. Go go low. Benko gulabenco in Staten, island of all places, New York. And he it will be a Commodore. And he says, If anyone in New York City and Long Island requires environmental work, please reach out to a GG for outstanding service. It's 718499, 2300, is that a promotion?

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I think it is. I think it is a promo if you need environmental work on Long Island in New York City, what is environmental

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

work cleaning the rats out of the sewer. Oh, I have no idea. It must be a lot of work that you would know. Also, we should organize a meetup in Hampton, the Hampton Bay Area, Montauk. I could get some help for the show. S g dash, a G, g@hotmail.com, S G, dash a G, G, Hotmail. Hotmail.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Sir Baronet John Helmer from Shawnee, Kansas, comes in for 500 for for a Commodore ship Adam and John, the numerology of show 1697, and the no agenda Commodore promotion were too good to resist. I understand. I totally get it. Thanks for the dose of sanity you provide twice a week. Can I get an F 35 scream? Oh, hold on, F 35 karma. You see f 35 scream? Yes, F 35 scream and an r2, d2, karma. Thank you, sir Baronet John Helmer from Shawnee, Kansas,

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you've got

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

very similar, yeah, almost the same Christian Freeman in San Marcos, Texas, which I have to speak from you 500 another Commodore in the morning, John and Adam. I had a night status a few months ago via the layaway program. And all that time, I'd never written and never written in so So I needed deducing.

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You've been deduced.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

My wife and I have loved listening to no agenda together every week since we started listening in January of 2022, we now recommend it to all of our family as a antidote to the MSM craziness. They might not understand how podcast apps work well, then they won't be listening for long. But when we're visiting, we enjoy sitting down together to listen to some of the good old media deacons.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

You can just go to no agenda show.net you can play it right there. You don't need a podcast app. You can do it right from the website.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Please Knight me sir crimby of the San Marcos River, and with which, always he gets a knighting. I hope he's on the list. Yes, he and with my donation today, a Commodore Commodore crimby, I let you guys decide how that works. I'll have a glass of orange juice and Ray Ray Peets carrot salad at this round table. Yum. I guess the same. Us please. Thanks, guys. A quick shout out to Billy and spud from the guy was gonna get kick out a guy's name spud from the bud from the war mode

podcast for first making me aware of no agenda. Thank we win this. Yeah. Shout out to Billy and Spud. Yep. Billion Spud, a few years ago. War mode, donation. Can I get a jobs karma as I'm interviewing for a new job over the next few weeks? Thanks for all you do.

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Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs, let's vote for jobs. You've got karma.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Then we have Dame Cheryl from Pinedale, Wisconsin, 333 Wyoming Wyoming, 333 33 and she sent in a note with a check. I see John and Adam. Thank you for being awesome, and congrats on your upcoming 17 year anniversary. Your show is the best. And I'm always enlightened by a deconstruction of current events in my neighborhood, we have not noted any missing cats, dogs or ducks, but since the animals outnumber people by 10

to one, we might not notice. However, if anyone tried to swipe a pet around here would not go so well for the perpetrator She's packing. Thank you for your courage. Yes, we are going to need a good dose of that in the coming months. Dame Cheryl, cowgirl of the Wind River Range and Wyoming, she got a picture of her on a on a horse. Here, it looks like her, doesn't it like her on the checks? Yeah, personalized

checks. Nice. Thank you very much. Dame Cheryl, nice handwriting too, by the way, very classic, classic big, big loops, big loops, big hoops and loops. Got

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

style.

Unknown

He does,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

surly, furious, surly, surly, furious, surly,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

surely sir.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I'm in St Petersburg, Florida, 250 Associate Executive producer in the morning. Just left my first meetup in St Pete. Had a great time. Met lots of great people. John and Adam replay the Hillary clips from last week. She says, ah, enough to rival Bill Gates, sir. Lee, surely furious. Well, I

Adam CurryAdam Curry

won't do that, but I will play half of the AI Hillary,

Unknown

will you be choking Puff Daddy this time around? So how are you planning on doing? I wanted to choke him at night and make it look like a suicide, just like Jeffrey Epstein. But then I realized puffy might actually enjoy that. So, you know, maybe he slips on the shower. Maybe he chokes with a piece of fried chicken. I still haven't decided yet. So, good.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Serpent in the troll room. Hello. Serpent in the troll room. Yo sup, cranky in the hair guy, it's my 31st birthday today. Hooray. I'm no longer in the target demo. Why you are the demo? Bruh, thanks for all you guys do the target demo is totally the demo. Thanks for all you guys do and give the

troll some karma. PS, if any producers could use a no agenda Baronet with a background in meteorology, who knows Python better than the average science programmer is willing to learn the good old languages like Fortran, C, C plus, plus, and wants to be saved from this full stupidity. Web dev, I'm serpent in the troll room, or on zero node in general, and on no authority, all right, 222, dot, 22 Associate Executive producership For serpent, who's getting lots of karma in the

troll room. And karma for you right now

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you've got karma.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Kevin garguilo In Sugar Hill, Georgia. 222, dot, two, two. That's another row of ducks. Greetings, John and Adam, please accept my annual retirement treasure donation for a row of ducks on 922 I will have completed two years of my early retirement. No jingles, no karma, sir. Kevin G of the Lake Lanier land, Lanier Lanier boaters. So Kevin, G, A, R, uh. Guard Yeah.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Guard julo is low. Pronunciation,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

oh. Guard julo, okay. Guard you low.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

What are you doing in your early retirement? Kevin, are you just putting the lawn puttering? Puttering? The Law,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

putting Yeah, putting the lawn puttering,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

hey and with 209 dot 23 there he is, Eli, the coffee guy from bensonville, Illinois. We appreciate his support so much. And he would like to invite all producers to help us that will be gigawatt coffee roaster, gigawatt coffee to celebrate an unappreciated holiday tomorrow, September 23 is national. See, say day. That's right,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

it's national.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

What see for See Something, Say Something national. See, say day, yes, because Janet Napolitano said it best if you see something, say something to help commemorate this important day, gigawatt coffee. Roses is offering all of our sample packs for 23% off, because nothing opens your eyes more than a good cup of coffee. Use code. See, say valid from 922 through 926 stay caffeinated. Eli, the coffee guy, go and he does ask for, I didn't realize he had that. See,

something, say something. He wants the See Something, Say Something, jingle. And what else did he want? There?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

They're eating the dogs. We got to, get to pull that clip. I have it, Trump, I have it. Oh, you do good.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I have it, I have it. Yes, and anything else? No, okay,

Unknown

if you see something,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

you're eating the dogs. I pulled that clip a long time ago, believe me, a classic. It

Adam CurryAdam Curry

is a classic.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

They're eating the dogs. They are. Linda lupatkin is up, and I see our last person here tonight. Yes, yes. She's very short. Again, yes. Linda patkin, a Lakewood, Colorado, 200 she wants some jobs. Karma. I think we can give her that. PSA to all you businesses out there, donate it works. And for a resume that works, visit the imagemakers inc.com with a k for all your executive resume and job search needs and work with Linda Lou the Duchess of jobs, and writer of resumes, jobs,

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jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's go for jobs.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Cards. Yeah, baby. No. Agenda donations.com. Thank you very much to our executive and Associate Executive producers, and we will be officially welcoming our Commodores in the second segment. And of course, we read all of the donation amounts and the names $50 and above. Thank you so much for supporting us. The best podcast in the universe. Episode is 1697,

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our formula is this. We go out. We get people in the mouth. They're eating the dogs. Shut

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up. US no attendant donations.com.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I want to talk a little bit about drag queens.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

You know, so many wonderful dinner parties have started off with that very sentence. I want to talk a little bit about drag queens

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

because there's a there is a commentary that was put out by James kunsler, the writer, that I think is worth putting on the show. But first of all, let's talk about what happened to Tupperware.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Oh yeah, they went out of business. They

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

went out of business. And I think it might be that there might be some evidence as to why they really went out of business with these these two clips. This is Tupperware in the drag queen

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this week, one of America's most iconic brands filed for bankruptcy. Tupperware was a staple of American households for decades, so much so that many people refer to any plastic container as Tupperware, whether or not it is the brand the company emerged in post war America and sales opportunities once revolutionized women's earning potential, but over the years, a new generation of sellers have picked up the

torch. Drag queens have become some of tupperwares most successful salespeople over the past few decades, Oscar Quintero has found similar success selling Tupperware in drag as que sidia.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Que sidia Really Okay, first of all, I'm gonna pull a John C Dvorak on you. They didn't go out of business. They only filed chapter 11, not the same thing. Yeah? So they're not out of business. They've just filed chapter No,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

they'll be, yeah, yes, that's what you do. It's a reorg.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

It's bankruptcy protection.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Yeah, it's a reorg. They're

Adam CurryAdam Curry

going out of business. But

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

don't you think that becomes a drag queen thing, and next thing you know, they're out of business, or not out of business, but they have to follow chapter 11. I mean, come on, you're

Adam CurryAdam Curry

telling me it's related. Are you telling me this is related? Yeah, I would think that that the drag queens that would be such a draw, because the ladies love the drag queens. Oh, a lot of them do. We're doing a Tupperware party, and the drag queens are coming over. It's going to be a hoot. Now

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

they're they have to bring this guy. Kate Sadia, and I have another complaint. Just going to complain about drag queens, but I'm going to complain about this one. Here's the part two, and he joins us now to

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talk about his experience. Oscar, welcome to All Things Considered. Hi. Thanks for having me. Can I just, can I get quesadilla a sales pitch before we talk more broadly? Sure. Hola, everyone, it's me. K said, Yeah, your 18 year old, international high fashion model, top word diva Chola from Tijuana, hot res,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

now Bill Dana was run out of town years ago for doing Jose Jimenez and I don't, and the Chihuahua for from Taco Bell, was run out of town because the Chihuahua had a Mexican accent. But this is okay,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

okay to talk about. Well, if you're, if you're a drag queen, you can do anything you want, in particular to kids.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

So this brings me to this clip from James. James kunzler is on a podcast with this Piero character, and he's a writer, uh, he he's a political writer. He hates Republicans to the extreme, but hates Democrats. The only one he likes in politics is Trump, because he's seen sees the Democrats and Republicans, is a bunch of corrupt parties, and Trump is a savior of some sort, but interesting, but yeah, and he's

a good writer. He's got a couple of books you should look at, Kunstler, James Kunstler, he's got a couple of books out that are really dynamite. But I I heard this analysis of drag queens is something I've never heard, and I was kind of taken aback. And I thought it was kind of interesting, because it I don't know what to make of it, but here we go.

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I mean, there are some elements of all the mischief that's going on that are obviously either explicitly planned or allowed. For example, the insanity of the drag queen Story Hour phenomenon in America. Do you have that in Europe? Of course. Oh, you do. Well, you had it at the Olympics. So it is coordinated, because obviously, otherwise we wouldn't have it. Yeah, you saw the Olympic opening ceremonies, right? And

the closing ceremonies. Well, actually, didn't look at it, but I saw, you must have seen some, some photos and video. I don't have time to for such things. I didn't either. I saw the videos, but I saw plenty of it exactly, and it was completely insane. And the drag queen story hour in America, it's an interesting phenomenon, because I think it's misunderstood. You know, these men who are dressing up as women, in quotes, women, they are not presenting

themselves as women. Strictly speaking, they're presenting women as monsters. And this is a very, I think, a kind of a subtle psychological ploy be one thing if they were just saying, you know, we're trying to make ourselves as beautiful as possible and pass ourselves off as women, but they are so obviously acting as monsters. There's some other psychological dynamic that's going on there that you have to think is pretty

sick. It's the kind of thing that's so subtle that it's easily misunderstood even by supposedly intelligent people who are missing the point and and the idea that the educated class, the thinking class in America, which predominates in the left globalist Democratic Party cohort, yes, the the fact that they think that's okay tells you that they're insane, right there.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

That's an interesting analysis, and we have to make a distinction between transvestites, which is men who like to dress like women, and drag queens who indeed, he makes a good point. And I think drag queens in general are gay guys, very, you know, kind of the the effeminate girlfriend, flamboyant, flamboyant. That's what I was looking for. And there may be a deep rooted, I would say, probably fear. I'm not a psychoanalyst, of course, a fear

of women or hate. I don't know if it's really it's probably Mom, mom issues, you know? Well, yeah, but,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

but the monsters now is exactly right, yeah, if you look at them, they're monsters. There's not like a person. No,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

no. Well, I guess I'm gonna cancel, uh, the drag queen story hour for our meetup here in Fredericksburg. Now that is interesting. I had, had not really thought of it that way, but it is inherently anti woman, if you think about it.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I just found it. Found the analysis. I was taken aback.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I never really understood the appeal. I mean, I think it started with female impersonators, so I kind of, no, I think I understood the Well, I'm gonna, I'm gonna do Cher or I'm gonna do Madonna, or I'm gonna do Barbara Streisand, and that was more like a vaudeville esque, you know, it's funny. It's like, is it Tim burleski, burlesque? Yes, it was funny, and they'd do an outrageous impersonation. And, you know, there was real money to be made in that, but it just became a

whole thing all by itself. Yeah, it that. You know what that is, entropy, right there. Oh, stop, stop. Sorry, entropy.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

And. Entropy,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

yeah, it left to its own devices. It just devolved. And it just became horrible,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

horrible, yeah, horrible, horrible,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

horrible. Well, that was refreshing.

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Can I move on that you would lighten things up? Yeah,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

let me lighten things up with some climate change

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

under the inflation Reduction Act seven and a half billion for building these charging stations. The latest information, eight have been built with the seven and a half billion.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

This is an interview with, I think, with budge are, by the way,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

on this note, they've built they just gone on for four years with the very when Biden was first running, oh, we're gonna build 500,000 charging stations. They built eight. Meanwhile, as camel is running, she's talking about building 3 million homes. Yes, they're not building one home. They can't build eight of these charging stations. They're going to build all these homes.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I don't think so. I know why, but let's listen to Buddha judge. First

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

that had been allocated, you're supposed to get to 500,000 of these charging stations by 2030

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what is really the problem with do you give you looked at that and figured out why? Oh, yeah, no, that's that's on track. So we're at about 190,000 publicly available charging stations in the US, that's approximately double what the level was when President Biden came in. The issue, though, is that there are some gaps in the market, ones that are just not going to be built by the private sector that's been building the construction of those chargers to date.

That's why the legislation provided for funding to do federally supported chargers that are intended to be online before 2030 now the bulk of that construction will happen in 2728 quite a bit actually, I expect by 2026 a handful, as you mentioned, are actually already up and running. But really what

you're going to see is more the second half of this decade. And it's really important to have those federally supported chargers, because you have stretches of road, or even just in the middle of our cities, apartment buildings, places in our economy where it just doesn't yet pencil out for there

to be the private sector profitably doing that. And you know, even though about 80% of EV charging happens at home, the reality is the new EV kind of landscape we're working toward where the President's goals about half of sales to be EVs by the end of this decade, requires us, by the end of this decade, to have a lot of charging apparatus that just isn't there as we're sitting here in 2024

Adam CurryAdam Curry

so what Joe Kernan there at CNBC did not get to the reason that they have not built them is because of the requirements for the contracts, this is so typical of this particular administration, the contracts require that these be built by minority companies, either women owned, people of color owned, etc, and most companies don't qualify. That's what the holdup is. It's the same thing with the broadband. $42 billion worth of broadband, all the stuff in the inflation

Reduction Act was all woke. They put all of this woke connotation, ESG, dei stuff onto it, and that's why there's no one is qualifying.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Well, this is a plus.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Well, yes, in a way, it's a plus. I agree, because these EVs made sexy by Elon Musk, I am against them. I think it's a bad idea. I don't like them. I don't like the danger of them. And in fact, they're quite bad, even in traffic on the highway, turning now

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to something you may not know, the new crash tests of electric vehicles, which point to an unexpected danger. Guardrails on America's roads are typically tested against vehicles weighing up to 5000 pounds, but many electric vehicles weigh more than that, up to 30% more, in fact, and that means most guardrails may not hold up in a collision. Chris Van Cleave shows us the consequences could be deadly. More than 19,000 people died in crashes where their vehicle left

the roadway last year. That's nearly half of all traffic deaths. Guardrails and similar roadway barriers are designed to reduce the number and severity of these crashes. This is how a guardrail is supposed to work, containing a vehicle and redirecting it back towards the road. Watch what happened

Adam CurryAdam Curry

exploding here. What's happening? Stop. Sorry about that.

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Got a runaway board a roadway barriers are designed to reduce the number and severity of these crashes. This is how a guardrail is supposed to work, containing a vehicle and redirecting it back towards the road, but watch what happens when an electric sedan hits a standard guardrail during this new testing from the Texas Transportation Institute, the guardrail fails as the sedan rips through the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety says it is concerned about EVs

and. Additional weight resulting in more severe crashes, a concern NTSB chair Jennifer homendy told CBS News she shares, I

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think it does present significant challenges for safety. In March, Senator

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Fischer asked chair homody about EVs and guardrails during a Senate hearing. Our guardrails crash attenuators, they are rated up to 5000 pounds. Many of these vehicles go up to 10,000 pounds, so that has an impact on safety. The EPA estimates half of all new car sales could be EVs by 2032 not much time to raise the bar on roadside safety barriers. Yeah,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

that's the first thing that has to change, is this. EPA. You know, the reason this is happening is because of the the emission standards, which make it almost mandatory for automobile manufacturers to create a certain number of electric vehicles in their fleet, even if they lose money on it, so they can just sell regular cars to people who want to just Have a good vehicle, yeah,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

a reliable vehicle that that started fill up, you can recharge at a gas station in like 10, five minutes, as opposed to an hour. Yeah,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

and it doesn't ignite and burn for days if you crash it through the guardrail, which won't hold back. No, none of this is good. So dumb. Bo it's Elon. It's sexy. It's great, man. You hear about this warlord, this Chechen warlord, who bought a cyber truck, he says that Elon gave it to him, which I totally believe, and and then he remotely disabled it, which is quite telling.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

But Elon gave him a cyber truck and then disabled it. So the Chechen warlord was like a waste of money. The Chechen,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

well, the Chechen warlord, they've had lots of these cyber trucks with machine guns mounted on the back. Lots of, uh, lots

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

of guys bought these. That'd be kind of cool looking.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

It does look cool. There's, I have photos of it in this article. This is Zero Hedge article. So this Chechen warlord said, Elon Musk did something ugly. He gave me this beautiful cyber truck, then he disabled it. And of course, Elon the only thing Elon is replying is, you think I gave a cyber truck to a Chechen warlord? Well, that's not the story. The story is they can be disabled by remote. I think every single Tesla can be disabled by remote, yeah, of course, or taken over remotely

driven. Drive right

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

into a wall. Nobody. I

Adam CurryAdam Curry

just got a new you, like this guy, I just got a EULA from my car. Like, Oh, we've done a software update. Well, maybe I don't want that now. I gotta dig through this Ula, see what they can do. But I'm sure that they're during

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

one of the hurricanes, if you recall in Florida, when everyone's had these electric cars, they couldn't charge they sent out a software upgrade. They gave them an extra 100 miles of they could drive further. Yeah,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

now it works better. Here you go. Normally, that cost you $20,000 here it is for free. You know what that is? Entropy,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

all of it. Well, no, it's just the opposite. Everything

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I'm saying now is going to be entropy. Yeah,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I know it's because, well, it's better than some of the other stuff you've done.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Gee, thanks. I mean, it's, it's the great

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

reveal.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

You've dropped that one. It's the season of reveal. Well, the reason I like the great reveal, the reason I stopped this because whenever I said it, you would go some reveal. That's not a reveal. So I stopped it because,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

you know your so I have to, so I have to carp, do

Adam CurryAdam Curry

you just have to say good one, Adam, that would be helpful.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I say that all the time. Sure you do. I do your last presentation, the last show, I complimented you profusely. Thank

Adam CurryAdam Curry

you. Well, I will bring back the season of reveal, because it hasn't stopped.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Oh, god no.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

So we can't have RFK Jr in the administration soon enough, because, man, they're really going after beef now, which is a real problem. You already heard Tedros, if you recall a few shows back. The problem is beef. We must reduce our intake of beef. It is not good. The beef, I don't know, man, I look at Texas slim. Texas Slim's grandparents, all they ate was beef and maybe a potato. They look pretty good. Everybody looks slim and trim. And they worked out in the on the on the

ranch for 18 hours a day. And they liked it, and they and they read their their Bible by candlelight at night when times were good. But no, no. No, now we have to get rid of beef because, well, due to climate change, do

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you know about meat fluencers?

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Do you know about meat fluencers? John,

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oh brother, no, I have not heard of that. This is

Adam CurryAdam Curry

NPR, in case you are wondering. Okay.

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Well, these are great online personalities and celebrities often pushing the idea that men should eat lots of meat. Often

Adam CurryAdam Curry

they're talking about you, I'm a meat influencer. I'm totally are, well, I don't quite fit the bill, because I don't have the body build that you that you're supposed to have. But this is like, Yeah, this is like, Texas slim who was anything but, but a beefed up dude. This is like the meat mafia boys, our friends the meat mafia. They're all meat fluencers, lots

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of meat, often lots of red meat, beef to live up to their potential. Some of them are actually selling beef products, including supplements made of beef meat. Some of them don't just promote the benefits of eating lots of red meat. Some of them spread false and misleading views about eating certain plants. How

Adam CurryAdam Curry

can a view be false and misleading? Isn't that just your view?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

A misleading view?

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Yeah, view, view, particularly

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these guys,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

come on, man. This is good stuff. This is, this is gold. Them

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spread false and misleading views about eating certain plants, particularly soy, including the idea that,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

yeah, they're gonna tell me that it's it's mean, it's mean if you make fun of soy,

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particularly soy, including the idea that soy can feminize men.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Is this true? John,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

well, you know, there is an estrogen analog in soy oil that I believe makes men grow breasts. Here's

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Joe Rogan describing that for you. Soy is one of the rare foods that's actually attached to being a bitch. Some men are afraid of consuming soy. It has a stigma. There's even a derogatory term for weak men called soy boys. It's a pretty popular term. I have not heard the term soy boy. What? Okay,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

hold on. This is NPR. Stop the clip. You have not heard the word soy boy. Get off the air.

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Researchers say changing diets will require new messaging. Listen up. America, meat has problems, and it's gonna take us meat eaters to solve. This guy in the ad, he looks kind of like a big, burly man, and he's walking around aggressively, you

Adam CurryAdam Curry

know, I'd rather have the AI podcast than these two. I'll be straight up honest with you, this is this is painful, and it's on NPR, our national treasure. Exactly,

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he was slapping a beef hamburger out of some guy's hand. He replaced it with a plant based burger. Because this is an ad for the plant based food company, Impossible Foods. Okay, let's go on, because now we can turn plants into burgers and hot dogs, even meatballs. Then someone offers the main guy a helmet and he gets on a motorcycle. We're solving the meat problem with more meat, impossible, meat from plants. He gets on the motorcycle and he zooms off, exploding, exploding

to the horizon. I showed this Impossible Foods ad to Gabriel Rosenberg. He's a professor of Gender Studies at Duke University. There

Adam CurryAdam Curry

we go. There we go. A professor, there we go. We've gone from meat to soy boys to gender studies. You know what that is? Enjoy entropy, obviously,

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Gabriel specifically studies gender and food, and he thinks there's some very important symbolism going on gender.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

And wait, so these guys are so hard up for something to do, these gender professors that they're studying gender and food, that's right. And they make it a course. Hey, you would like, take gender and food 1010. Yeah. I want to take that. I want to take gender and food.

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Is this, like, like, older figure of, like, masculinity. He's

Adam CurryAdam Curry

teaching you how to be a man, and then he's, like, explosively mural. It's basically just saying, men, you have permission to eat our product and still be manly and still be masculine. How? Why do you need a PhD in gender studies to make that analysis? Anyway? Here's, here's the last part

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I got on a zoom with Peter McGinnis. He's the president and CEO of Impossible Foods. You

Adam CurryAdam Curry

think this is some kind of native ad or some kind of promotion.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Possible foods been mentioned at least three times, maybe more.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. This.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

They paid for this. I think this is a paid for native ad on NPR. We've we catch them all the time. I'm glad you got this one. It's not It's sickening sickness. The

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main. One thing Peter found is that there were people they weren't reaching customers who see plant based food and think it isn't for them. So

Adam CurryAdam Curry

we got on, we got our sales team on the call to talk to them, because, hey, we can help you reach your soy boys. That's our demo, right here. NPR listeners are soy boys. They'll love your product will do a whole special for you. They

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see it as food for vegans and vegetarians. Peter wants it to be more inclusive. That really means more meat eaters to reach more of them. Peter says they needed to change the branding. I think we had the messaging wrong for a long, long time on all this stuff.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Wait, this is the excuse for the effect of their sales suck because their product sucks this terrible tasting that we have bad messaging, yeah, we weren't able to bullshit the public enough.

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Impossible Foods was founded to help curb climate change, to reduce that huge amount of climate to

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

curb climate change.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I drink to curb climate change from

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animal agriculture, but Peter says in their advertising, they are not leaning into climate Yeah, because, you know, climate change, like so many other things, has become politicized and kind of a part of the culture wars. It's and Peter doesn't want his customers to associate his product with politics at all. Please. We don't want anything partisan political weird the

Adam CurryAdam Curry

packaging. He doesn't want Republicans eating it

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often associated with environmentalists to red so it looks like red meat, so we're leaning into that, right? All those meat cues, right? They want to make a cute tent to welcome meat eaters. But psychology researchers say ads like this are important. They can broaden social acceptance for plant based foods, to shift diets away from beef. Shifting social norms will be key. Wow.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

There you go. Your national treasure at work. Well, that sucked. Oh, it didn't suck.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Oh, these people are destroying the world as entropy.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

That is indeed a NPR is a perfect example of entropy. Meanwhile, the New World Order is meeting this week in New York. It's a big deal. Big. Big deal. We got the UN General Assembly. Actually, there was an interesting report on TRT, which was like some kind of predictive programming. This

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year's UN General Assembly will see upwards of 142 world leaders in New York City all at once. It will be surrounded by an unprecedented massive security blanket of heavily armed police, Secret Service and Diplomatic Security agents the assassination attempts on former President Donald Trump have impacted the already heightened security measures in place. The Department of Homeland Security has given it the designation of national special security event.

What's changed from this year from last year is obviously October 7, there have been more than 4000 protests in New York City against Israel's breeder war on Gaza since last October, it has also changed the dynamic of the security inside the UN with the expected arrival of President Joe Biden, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Palestinian President Mahmoud

Abbas and Ukraine's President Vladimir Zelinsky. Attacks on the UN building here have been rare, but the most notable occurring in 1964 when a bazooka was fired from across the East River here during a speech by Che Guevara of Cuba in the General Assembly Hall. Now the bazooka shell fell short about 180 meters from the shoreline here, but the diplomats inside this building were rattled.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Man, I never heard about, I never heard about the bazooka shot from across the river.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I'm older than you, and I never heard of it, but

Adam CurryAdam Curry

it really, it really, kind of got my mind thinking, you know, like, what if everyone's a cell phone just,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Oh, I see what you're saying. This predictive programming so somebody's gonna do something. Wow. What a perfect and we're gonna be some of you, okay, yeah. Well, this happened before it has, yeah, they just said, No,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

the bazooka, yeah, but it was unsuccessful that dropped. It

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

may not even happen for all I know. I don't remember anything about it.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I mean, it's, what a perfect place to change landed

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

in the drink. I mean, come on, what a perfect place. How they know is a bazooka. Well, that's, uh, all right, I guess we have to do some research on the show bazooka

Adam CurryAdam Curry

attack. UN building 19. 64 let's see bazooka fired it. Yeah, there it is. The New York Times does

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

mean it hasn't been placed after the fact

Adam CurryAdam Curry

it is. I have the printed article in The New York Times archive. Even better, Bazooka fired at UN as Cuban speaks, launched in Queens, missile explodes in East River. About that. Can you imagine how, how history would change? I mean, they can't stop a drone. Think about it. That would really change history.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Well, you can have a drone, yeah, the drone thing has not hit this country yet. It's bound to, let's face it,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

no, but that is the future. It's the future of asymmetric warfare.

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The UN Security Council met in New York to discuss the crisis in the Middle East after four days of intensive Israeli attacks on Hezbollah, the organization's human rights chief, Volker Turk, said he was appalled by what he called the indiscriminate targeting of 1000s of people in Lebanon through the explosions of communication devices, and said it violated international law. International humanitarian law prohibits the use of booby trap devices in the form of apparently harmless, portable

objects. Well, that's no fun which are specifically designed and constructed to contain explosive material, it is a war crime to commit violence intended to spread terror among civilians. I call again for an independent, thorough and transparent investigation into the circumstances of these explosions. Those who ordered and carried out these attacks must be held to account please. The Under Secretary General for Political Affairs, Rosemary

DiCarlo, said that it wasn't too late for diplomacy. The risk to security and stability, not only in Lebanon, but also in the region, could not be clearer or graver. The Secretary General has already expressed his deep alarm over these events, I echo his sentiments and strongly urge all actors to exercise maximum restraint to avert any further escalation. Yeah,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

they're worried about themselves. I'm telling you, it wouldn't be hard to inject something into a whole new series of iPhones or anything. I think they're taking it very lightly this.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Well, you might be right. I mean, yeah, all you need is a man in the middle. You need somebody just to get to, you know, somebody in between China. Anybody's phones.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

These things are made in China.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Hello. Yeah, well, you can just do it from the factory. Then if you want, that's what I think,

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definitely,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

for all we know, every iPhone out there, for all we know, already rigged is pre rigged. Yep, you can't unless you can, you take the battery out. Can you just drop the battery out and you find out? No, no, no, not on Well, that's an interesting coincidence. The phone I have in a drawer, you can take the battery out. You have to, because it dies after a couple of years in the drawer. New batteries. I've

Adam CurryAdam Curry

got the pixel six with the graphene OS, I can take the battery out. Yeah,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I still, I've seen all these different videos I have yet to see anyone explain the triggering mechanism, talking about, oh, you got a little Semtech in the back there, a little bit. You don't even need much, and it's in the behind a battery.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

There's still, you know, there's still some theories out there, and I wish we would hear about it. I mean, they kind of went away from the story. There's still some theories that it was Petn or Semtex in a battery.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Believe, yeah, could be that, but, but if it's in the battery, how do you trigger it? How do you how do you have the explosion take place at the same time? Besides, maybe it was the caught, you know, the rays from the solar flare, which is an interesting thesis, because it did happen on the day that you lost your connection to Starling.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I'm not sure how the solar flare would, would affect it, but it would, it could, anything is possible, but we, but we don't

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

know, what is the mechanism for exploding these phones? Yeah,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I don't know the phone. I mean, it's it, I mean, you triggers. Look, there's lots of external pins that you can you can make go hot. You can bring up a PIN. You know, that is, you know, haptic there's, there's haptics in the there's vibration. These are motors, there's energy. So you can do all kinds of stuff with that.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I would like to know exactly how you can make it a phone explode. Well, I

Adam CurryAdam Curry

think you should talk to unit 8200 they seem is that 8200 The Israel or 8400 the Israel is 8600 Yeah, whatever. It's the Jews. John, hello, it's obvious. We all know who did it.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I would just like, I've seen all these guys yakking about this and the No one says, explain how it works. Well,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Trump spoke to the Jews.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Yes, he and of course, the right left wingers went on and on about how Trump's going to blame the Jews. Here it is. Trump

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has said Jews who support Democrats, quote, have to have their head examined, and claimed Harris doesn't like Jewish people today. Harris's husband, second gentleman, Doug emhoff, himself Jewish responding in an interview with ABC Michael Strahan, he said this quote, she doesn't like Jewish people, and you like me, you're Jewish American. So what was your reaction when you heard that in real time.

So it's typical Donald Trump gaslighting. So he is gaslighting somebody who is, how's that gaslighting?

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Well, in context of the Jews, it's a pretty interesting quote. Oh,

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so it's typical Donald Trump gaslighting. So he is somebody who has had dinner with known anti Semites after the horrific events of Charlottesville, where people are actually marching with Tiki torches saying Jews shall not replace us. And he said there were fine people on both sides of that lie.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

There's the big lie. And he said there are very fine people on both sides

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place us. And he said there were fine people on both sides of that. This is a guy who has, can

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

they keep doing that?

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Well, because it's easy and and the only people who say that's a lie is some two old dudes on a podcast who have hot takes,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

even Snopes says it's a lie, yeah, but

Adam CurryAdam Curry

this is the football guy on on ABC. He's not gonna say, Hey, man, that's a lie. No, the all of the media is skewed. It's all a lie. It's all it should not be watched. It's not for it's not fit for consumption. It's like impossible meat had

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a record of saying incredibly vile anti semitic things. So for him to say that I just Yeah, trolls

Adam CurryAdam Curry

make a good point that what he just did there is literally gaslighting,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

right? That's gaslighting, but you say, oh, there it is. The old you are what I say. I am what I say. You are what yourself being

Adam CurryAdam Curry

yourself but your corporate health,

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marching with Tiki torches, saying Jews shall not replace us. And he said there were fine people on both sides of that. This is a guy who has had a record of saying incredibly vile anti semitic things. So for him to say that,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

what vile anti semitic things has he said

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

there are fine people on both sides. Okay,

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so for him to say that, I just almost laugh at the chutzpah, as we would say Yiddish there. Now, while Harris's event with Oprah here in Detroit is aimed at a broader audience, her campaign is well aware of just how critical this state is. A new Quinnipiac poll shows Harris leading slightly here in Michigan, 50 to 45%

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Meanwhile, at the latest Trump rally, he's got some new stick to motivate people to go out and vote. Have you heard his new stick?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

No, I have not. We can do all ears. Okay, here, it's very short,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

but you will like it. We can do

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all of this and more, but patriotic New Yorkers must get your asses out to vote. Harry. Get up, Harry. Harry, get your fat ass out of the couch. You're gonna vote for Trump today. Harry, get up. Harry, come on. Let's go. Let's go. Harry,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

actually have heard that's

Adam CurryAdam Curry

good. I hadn't heard that one yet. It's great. I like it. I like it. Yeah, it's hilarious. They're

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

eating the dogs. Yeah, they

Adam CurryAdam Curry

are exactly. I don't know if you had a clip about this, but I thought it was noteworthy. It seems to kind of just being reported on in passing. It seems like a bigger story to me. Actually, let me see, I think you have two clips. Do you have the second moon? Do you have a second moon clip?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I have a two clips. And I have a, yeah, it's a yikes series. Okay, there you go. Which means that there's something. There's a piece of information in here that made me go, yikes.

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Earth has a new visitor in space. It's an asteroid named 2024 Pete. E5 catchy as the asteroid was whizzing by on its path around the sun, the Earth's gravity disrupted it, and the space rock and the earth are now in a fleeting gravitational dance. Scientists spotted the space rock last month using a telescope in South Africa. That telescope is part of the NASA funded asteroid terrestrial impact last alert system. And while that name

sounds pretty dire, there's no need to worry. This asteroid is not on a collision course with Earth.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

What is what's the acronym to that? Hold on a second. I'll

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dance. Scientists spotted the space rock last month using a telescope in South Africa. That telescope is part of the NASA funded asteroid terrestrial impact last alert system and, well, that name sounds pretty Attila.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Now there's NASA guys. Okay, so what was the Yikes?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

They spotted this asteroid just a month ago. How much time would that give you if it was headed right to Earth? 30 days? They can't get these guys off the shuttle that went up, the Boeing shuttle that went up and dropped these people off, they couldn't even bring them back. And we got 30 days. Yeah, yeah. They had this whole system in place to look for asteroids headed for Earth. And they got, they spotted this thing 30 days ago.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Yeah, maybe, maybe it's time for Mythbusters to come in. I don't know. I don't think they know anything.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Here's part two. They, at least they describe a little bit more of the asteroids the size of a bus. Writing

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this month in the journal Research notes of the American Astronomical Society, scientists estimate the asteroid is 33 feet long, about the size of a bus, and sorry, backyard astronomers, it'll be too small and dim to see with amateur

telescopes. And while the space rock has picked up the nickname of a mini moon, tracing a temporary arc around the Earth, there's some disagreement whether it truly lives up to that title, because it won't make a full orbit around our planet before departing again in the coming months to continue its journey around the sun.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Wow. Kind of reminds me of that John Cullen guy, the bird flu guy, no, yeah, that's the guy who said it was about h1, 5n, or whatever. It wasn't, it wasn't about covid that. That's why Trump was talking about 1917 instead of 1918 he also has this whole whole theory that all of the emergency hospitals were built because there were so many asteroids all of a sudden flying around the earth that they expected one to hit the Earth. He's got some pretty out there theories.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

That's a good one.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

He's got some hot takes, speaking of speaking of Boeing, who can't bring anybody back, Boeing's

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defense space and Security Division has a new temporary president and CEO. The company ousted Theodore Colbert and replaced him with Chief Operating Officer, Steve Parker. Boeing has been under increased scrutiny after the Starliner capsule experienced that thruster malfunction and stranded two astronauts on the International Space Station.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Yeah, bye. Can't bring our astronauts back. Can't keep anything going. You're out. You're done, you're done, and that Boeing strike still continues. When is Musk going to announce that he's he's taking over all the Boeing business?

Douche

It's going to be a while,

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maybe. So

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

there's a the West Wing, the old TV show, yeah. Well, they're bringing it back. At least they're bringing the cash. It's

Adam CurryAdam Curry

the dream. This is what all Democrats want. They want the White House to be like West Wing. That's the way it should be. Was already brought. They

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

brought on an anniversary. They brought him to the White House because Jill Biden, and if anyone has noticed this seems to be running things that way. Woodrow Wilson's wife did, in fact, she was at the Cabinet meeting, yes, and Joe threw it to her.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Is that in this clip? No, no, I actually have, I thought I had a, I thought a clip of that. I didn't get the Joe throwing it to her, but I got the explanation as to what she was doing. Because, remember, she's a doctor, Jim, Joe Biden,

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Dr Biden, the First Lady in attendance today as well. Yeah, yeah. I mean, this is important and interesting Cabinet meeting because of who is not there, which was vice president Harris, obviously, who has her campaign schedule. But then because of the spotlight that the first lady did have, she talked about the fact that sometimes the White House, in her words,

surprises you. And for somebody who has worked on women's health issues for her whole career, frankly, as a teacher, but also as the second lady, and now is the first lady, she said, Since

Adam CurryAdam Curry

when has she worked on women's health issues? That's

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

what I'd like to know. I never heard this. But, you know, I

Adam CurryAdam Curry

think that just conflating. Dr Biden was like, Oh, she's worked on women's health issues for oh,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

like whoopee did when she thought that Dr Biden should be there in general. Where

Adam CurryAdam Curry

is that cliff? Whoopee, Dr Biden, let me see. I have it somewhere. Whoopee, Jill, I think, let me see dr, I guess not. Ah, we had it. Oh, I know it's disappointing. What can I say? Disappointment? So I always play the west wing clip. Yes, let's do that. West Wing

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is celebrating his 25th anniversary this week, and pierce Chloe Veltman reports actors and producers from the hit political TV drama marked the occasion at the White House yesterday at the invitation of First Lady, Jill Biden during his speech in the White House Rose Garden West Wing creator Aaron Sorkin said his show about a principled fictional US president, played by Martin Sheen, was, quote, idealistic, aspirational, aspirational, aspirational and

romantic. Over the years, I've noticed that during times of peak political tension, pundits will warn us not to expect a West Wing moment. They mean not to expect a selfless act of statesmanship, not to expect anyone to put country first. Don't expect anyone to swing for the fences or reach for the stars. However, Sorkin said President Joe Biden's decision not to run for a second term proves that West Wing moments are indeed possible in real life. The West Wing ran on NBC from 1999 to 2006

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

so man Jill brought them in. She's right in the place.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Does she have the nuclear codes?

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Probably, that's

Adam CurryAdam Curry

the question we all have on our minds. Does she have the nuclear codes?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I have a clip here called debate nonsense, slant. Vice President NPR clip, sorry. Vice

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President Harris, Vice President Harris's campaign says she accepted an invitation to a second debate with former President Trump, but as NPRs Don gagne reports, Trump says that's not going to happen. Former President Trump reacted to the news that the Harris campaign is agreeing to do a second debate by telling a rally in Wilmington, North Carolina, that quote, it's just too late. And he accused Harris of wanting to do another debate because, as

Trump put it, her campaign is going. Quote, badly again, he rejected the idea of another debate, saying he's done two already.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I Yeah, well, just back to, by the way, this debate, they wanted to do another one on CNN. Oh no, Harris won't do one on Fox, where they actually have somebody that might be objective, like Brett bear. I

Adam CurryAdam Curry

want to go back to Eleanor Biden for a moment, maybe she's the one that pulled the trigger on stealing the Russians money. They finally did it on

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diplomatic visits, almost every detail sends some kind of message, like the flowers given to Ursula von der Leyen as she arrived in Kyiv, the President of the European Commission visited a memorial for those killed in the war, and inspected generators offered by Europe Ukraine's power grid is at the heart of her visit. Europe has pledged a 35 billion year old loan. One of its main goals is to repair Ukraine's

energy network. The European Union is here to help you in this challenge, to keep the lights on, to keep your people warm as winter is just around the world, and to keep your economy going as you fight for your survival, roughly half of Ukraine's energy infrastructure has been destroyed in the war. It's one of the key targets. President Volodymyr Zelensky says the loan granted by the EU will also be

used for weapons, for the air defense and for shelters. The loan is part of the $50 billion package from g7 countries. Profits from Frozen Russian assets will be used as collateral for Russia's government. This amounts to stealing. It's no exaggeration to say that these facts of large scale theft of Russian assets will finally nullify the authority and trust of the international community in the European Union. That's right.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Put your trust in our money networks. Don't worry about it.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

This idiotic is dumb. I'm gonna

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show my school by donating to no agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fabulous.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Morning. What is not dumb is what's coming up after we're done today. We do have some more show for you, a live Battle of the Bands. Value for value. Battle of the Bands. The satellite skirmish is coming up, so you do not want to tune away when that comes up right after we play our end of show mixes. We also have some meetup reports. We have our Commodores. We're welcoming on board, and we have some people to thank for supporting us with some value for value.

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You know, we

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

do. We don't have that many. We have about 20. Okay, well, thank you. Ryan perusi, or perusi, is the top of the list. He's in San Diego. Hold on a second. My eyes itchy. 133, 33 and he says, I will read his notes. I've got that many fellas, you guys have changed my life and my and many friends changed my life and changed my friends.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

His friends have run away from him, probably,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

yeah, okay, well, he's promoting the show which is good. Ian field parts are known as $100 Henry Davis in St Petersburg, Florida, another guy from St Petersburg, $100 he needs a D douching.

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You've been deduced.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Brian Lillard in Prosper Texas, 8088, 88 they were already to Kevin McLaughlin in Concord, North Carolina. He's the Archduke Luna, lover of American boobs at 808, along with Aaron Weisberg and weiberg. Weiberg in Roberts, Wisconsin, 808 and then we already jump way down from to Les Tarkowski in Kingman, Arizona, 6006 first time that's ever happened. Wow. We get from big boobs and small boobs. Boom, boom,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

boom, boom,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

boom. Abraham in Arlington, Virginia, okay, uh, 60 uh. Matthew Martel in brumal, Pennsylvania, 5856 you gotta read this one. Sorry, fellas, I can't afford your CPM. I can only swing a CPT visit Martel hardware.com, use coupon code blame PayPal for 10% off your order. Okay, let's push that up to the $200 mark. Matthew, yeah, please. James, bro freight, freighter ish Frederick in McFarland, Wisconsin, 5510 your he I read his note, your show is neat Oh, neato. There's a term,

neato, baby. It's Neato. I would assume it's Japanese. By the way, congratulations to Ono Sato for winning the sumo competition the second time he's won the award in the last three years. As a young guy, he'll be up to Ozeki within no time, he's going to be Ozeki next year or next tournament. This guy is the next Joe kazuna. Well, I will be saying it to the bank. I

Adam CurryAdam Curry

will be celebrating with Sir Mark and daymastered in a week and a half. Yeah,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

well, I'm sure they're aware of this. This is on a one today, before the term is even over. He had too many wins. Wow. Yeah, I'm sure you're thrilled. Dame Nancy in San Bruno, California, 54 Mark Hardwick in Alito, Texas, 5333 Leslie Wilbur in Loxahatchee, Florida. 5272 Paul Hobbs and can connugra is in cannura, Queensland, Australia. 5272

Adam CurryAdam Curry

conundra. I think it's conundrum.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Conundru, congra could be, think so. For Scott Brinkley in North Carolina, 5272 these are all $50 donors. Actually, Steven crummy and El Cajon, 5272 Forrest, Martin 505. And now we got the $50 donors, and there's only 12345, of them. It's that low. It's that bad. Uh, thank God for the Commodores. Nicholas aruto which in Harpers Ferry, Wisconsin, uh, West Virginia. Sorry. Michael sycora in New Richmond,

Wisconsin. Deborah Cornyn in pincher Creek, Alberta, Canada, and she says she's in the Barbados Dame flying fish, as a matter of fact, Jimmy Rowe in Warrington, Pennsylvania. And last on our short list is Dan Wyrick in Corpus Christi, Texas, and he has a call out. Hank is a douchebag. And that's our group of well wish. Supporters and producers for show, 1697,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

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and his wedding anniversary. Happy Birthday and Congratulations, everybody here at the best podcast in the universe. So I think we should do our Commodores first, probably. Or should we do a night? Or first? I'll do the Commodore. Okay, so this is all new, everybody. So the whole idea is that we welcome our new Commodores. We need to get them all positioned up here on the stage, because we're about to

hand them out. We say congratulations to Commodore gizmo Commodore kulaban Go. Commodore Helmer and Commodore krimbe. Welcome to our new Commodores. What do you think?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

It's good? It's good. Okay, have one other element. I'm not sure what, okay, not complaining. Shall

Adam CurryAdam Curry

we have a meeting after the show?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

God, no, let's do what you're doing. It's fine.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Okay, give me a blade. We got one night to bring up on this. They said that one Christian, Christian Friedman, please step on up here. You sir, I believe you are a layaway. And then you just add a little bit on top. We are very, very happy about that and very proud to pronounce the KD is our new night sir crimby of the San Marcos River for you. We've got hookers and blow red boys and Chardonnay and, by request, a glass of orange juice and Ray Pete's carrot salad. Yum. Who

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It's a signet ring. If you give us your ring size, which you can do with a handy ring sizing guide on that website, send that off to us, and we'll give you the ring. We'll send that off to you, along with some wax to seal your important correspondence with, because there is a signet ring and, as always, a certificate of authenticity. Once again. Welcome to the roundtable, sir crimby of the San Marcos River. Everybody's getting excited for the meetup here in

Fredericksburg, Texas on October 18. Reminder that if you are bringing a donation to put in an envelope with a note and with your name, please, because that's the very difficult if we can't remember who gave what we take on the spot donations. That'll be October 18 in Fredericksburg right now, though, we have a meet up report from the September 19 Denver Shindig. Hey,

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folks, Denver meet up. This is cousin Vito. Let's see if Uncle Moshe wants to talk. Uncle moishi, you want to say anything to everybody? Oi denvanita, Uncle moishi, there are Musa squirrel, I know I can't do it. I'm sorry. Boys, introduction to the Mormon. Sixes. Care Bear, the not so secret lives of ex Mormon, ex wives Colorado. Care Bear, hey, this is Nate second meet up. Still not a spook. This is Josh Sumption coming in from North Aurora north. Call Aurora

Colorado, and we are turning in all of our boons. We are going to get them inspected for any explosives that may be inside

Adam CurryAdam Curry

it. Editing the comedy right in in San Diego. Here's their meetup report. Hey,

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John and Adam. This is Sir Mike at the monthly meetup here in Rancho Bernardo, San Diego. ITM let me pass this around. This is Sir Matthew Black Knight of the ice giants. Or you may know me in the value versus Matt the tall I'll be performing in the second satellite skirmish on Sunday, the 22nd coming up. So if you want to come and spend some SATs, watch some cool music, check it out. This is Sir Joffe. I still need to come up with a funny tagline.

I don't have one, but I did just have some delicious roast cat and mutt. Hello from Taylor and a future human resource on the way in the morning, Kelly, Dame of the crushed grapes in the morning. Just had a little pizza with some geese on it. I see I'm John and Adam. This is Dame on love. You mean it Adam and John hit it's Victor on my way to be. In a third and bring back the good new segment. And four more years is not enough. All right. On three, ITM 123,

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in San Diego. Thank you for reporting in we have meetups taking place today. One actually at margaritas. Keene, that is in Keene, New Hampshire. It's a too many eggs.com. Meet up number six on Thursday, our next show day to North Georgia, monthly at six o'clock at Cherry Street. Brewing in Alpharetta,

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Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days where everybody game. It's like a

Adam CurryAdam Curry

party. Oh, man, I'm glad you brought some ISOs, because I have a very I only have one offering, and I don't think it's any good. I don't think it's any good. I'll play mine.

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Let's move on to marijuana. No

Adam CurryAdam Curry

See, I don't like it's no good. That's it. That's all I got. I'm sorry I spent time on AI stuff.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I have three. I do have one that's a little long and probably not usable, but it since I had to find this guy rough head, a Navy guy, yeah. Now I have a woman whose name is Hancock and sheep, and she says the following can't

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get it out fast enough because our hands are so busy in that moment.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Yeah, it's too long and too suggestive. It's

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

very suggestive, but I couldn't figure out what she's talking about. Okay, let's go. It's welcome. You're welcome.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

That's always a winner, always a winner, always a winner.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

And then no big deal. Yeah,

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well, it's no big deal. Wow. I

Adam CurryAdam Curry

don't know if I like Well, you're welcome better, or you're welcome. I think you're welcome is good. It's just short, All right, everybody, it's time once again for that favorite sake, with John's Tip of the day and

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sometimes.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

And before you start with your tip of the day, I did want to mention that we now have a website Tip of the day.net where all of John's tips of the day are located. Also no agenda. Fun.com Let me just check, check if that is yes, no agenda. Fun.com which has a lot of fun stuff about the show, is now also including the tip of the day. So noadgendafund.com, and Tip of the day.net John. Let's add another entry. Okay, so

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

we have people who use Twitter a lot every once. Now it's becoming video centric, yeah, and so there is a product, and it's, it's an online product called Twitter, vid.com, and as I've looked at these different Twitter video downloaders, this down. You put the URL of the of the of the post that's got the video right into this thing. It downloads it in high def. It usually gives you two or three options of how

you want to download. You download saves it as an mp three that you can now post on LinkedIn, or you can send it as email attachments. It's it's, I It's great for these videos that you've watched. And you go, Oh, this isn't going to be up here long. You download it using Twitter, vid.com

Adam CurryAdam Curry

uh, MP four, I presume not an mp three, I

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

am, sorry. MP four, exactly.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

You're right. So then what? What can you do with that? You can then upload it to other places, yeah, you

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

can upload it to, I said, LinkedIn, or you could use it in an email attachment. Yep, you can do all kinds of stuff with this. Or you can repost it on Twitter as though you discovered it,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

or create some entropy and upload it to notebook. Lm, what

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

could possibly go wrong?

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Are you looking for good advice? Perhaps something practical, or something you really need try the new agenda. Tip of the day, professional quality tips from the best podcast in the universe. That's right tip of the day every single end of show right here, before we go to our end of show mixes, which today includes, let me see we have Jesse coy Nelson, we've got David kecta and. And we have Billy Bones checking in.

Does it get any better than that? I don't think so. And as promoted earlier, coming up next, right after we disconnect from the stream, we have a live value for value Battle of the Bands. Boost them directly. It is the satellite skirmish. Autumn rust that's gonna be awesome. I'm sure I said in my best Oprah voice, whew. And of course, we will be back on Thursday to bring you more of your media deconstruction, to show you that it's all just a big show. Don't worry about it.

Go touch the grass. Rub your face on this cement coming to you. From the heart of the Texas Hill Country, Fredericksburg, Texas, in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

and from Northern Silicon Valley, where, once again, the fog is rolling in as usual. I'm John C Dvorak.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Remember us for our next show. Support us. Value for value at no agenda. Donations.com enjoy the sunlight skirmish until Thursday. Adios. Newfoza, hooey, hooey and such.

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He seems to make a distinction between mail in ballot and absentee ballot, but there's no such distinction. They're the same thing. Did the dead get balanced? Take a look at 1000s of pieces of mail that never made it to Portland, homes and businesses. Police tell us a postal worker was the one stealing that's very frightening to think that I can't mail something here and it's going to be okay. Osborne blames it on his meth addiction, contributed to his

inability to deliver the mail. Put your mask on, line up and vote like we always do, how many postal workers are caught and what's being done to prevent theft at your post office? So Jamie Lee Curtis believes that Donald Trump is attempting to steal the election, and I assume the mail in ballots by hiring tow truck drivers to haul away mailmans that she believes are full of Democrat ballots tampering with the Postal

Service. He is, in effect, putting his knee on the neck of American democracy, Donald Trump is stealing the election, but you may face a felony charge if you attempt to vote twice, that is by mail and also in person. But they raid the mailboxes. They can even print ballots. They get the same paper, the same machine, nothing special. Amazon is going to pay for the post office. Delivery, deliveries, deliveries. Liberated. I And Tim Ross are both gun owners. We will not take anybody's guns away.

We also need to have reasonable gun safety laws. I believe that we need an assault weapons ban.

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We need universal background checks.

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We need red flag laws. Outside the house. We want to ban assault weapons, and they want to ban Fox events, and they want to ban books extremists attack our freedom to live safe from gun violence. I want to emphasize, we are over two months, of course, since Butler, do you know that the Secret Service still has not given congressional investigators the documented evidence we have been asking for for two months, two months since

Trump was shot in the face. Now he has been shot at her nearly so again, and still, Secret Service is stonewalling right down to this hour. I mean, what is going on here? They need to level with us. Let's try this one. Mike check.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Mike check. Mike check, we have a saying in the Netherlands. You accuse others that of what you are guilty of.

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Yeah. Mike check, but

Adam CurryAdam Curry

you said clean yourself. Would you go through the health

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we have a saying in the Netherlands,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

or Mic check. Mic check,

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but you said, Ben yourself. You

Adam CurryAdam Curry

accuse others that you are guilty of. Boom. Yeah, mike check. Mike check. Watches

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like you, mains, elf, magical,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

legless grammar, nailed it.

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Dot org slash n A You're welcome. You.

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