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"It's The Boyfriend"

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John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Let's have a meeting. Adam curry Jhansi Devorah to 23rd 2020

Adam CurryAdam Curry

for this award winning combination media assassination episode 1671

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This is no agenda

Adam CurryAdam Curry

and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas hill country here in the Marines and number six in the morning everybody I'm Adam curry is from

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Northern Silicon Valley where everybody knows that tea is good for you. I'm John C. Dvorak.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Buzzkill. No, it's not. Me It's not a tea is good for you. This this is not a fact. It is

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

asking a Chinese person.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Okay. You got a lot of them around there. Yeah, you got. Have you heard about your Chinese person in Oakland?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

She's among.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

She's Ma, she's not Chinese. She's manga. She's

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Hmong which is the Cambodian ethnic group.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Okay, I thought it was pretty I thought the whole I thought the whole story where you want to hear this story? I actually I

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

clipped it for you. You should play it because I don't think anybody knows it.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

No, this is a part of the season of reveal. As sees

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

more like the season to corruption, but go ahead.

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It's been 48 hours since the FBI raided the home of Oakland Mayor Shang Tao along with at least two other locations, and the mayor is nowhere to be seen. We still don't know exactly what the FBI was looking for. Yesterday, we heard the mayor side of the story sort of she did hire an attorney, former prosecutor Tony brass, he suggested that there is no evidence that tau is the target

investigation, and that she had no idea was even happening. It was my assumption that she would have been asked for information or documents or devices if they were needed, and that she must have refused that if they got a search warrant. So I'm quite surprised that the search warrant was the first she'd heard of this investigation. The optics are bad, but the fact is that she is going to cooperate with the investigation that she

would have done that in the first place. Bras also said Mayor Tao is working from a remote location because of the media circus around the raids and that she will release a statement sometime next week. So

Adam CurryAdam Curry

what's great about this story is so she is among would you say Mung Tao Chuck Tao Rishi, mung Mung what is

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

the difference? m o n g, what

Adam CurryAdam Curry

is the difference between Chinese and manga?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Well, the Hmong are Cambodian, which is anything but Chinese. No, it's the south southeast Asian, all that whole, that whole area that he's not Chinese,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

do they eat sushi?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

No, I don't think so. All right, but whatever that's beside the point. The mine were kind of escaped from Cambodia during the period of Pol Pot in other situations, and they there's lots of Hmong and in the San Francisco Bay area, in fact, if you go to a farmers market, two or three of the stalls are Hmong and they, they're great if you check with their people, the Hmong are great people. This has got to be

a huge humiliation. Well, the Hmong population in the San Francisco Bay area because this woman is apparently corrupt. Well,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

wait, but wait, But wait, there's more. It's not her. Yeah, this is this is the follow up story. It's not her. It's the boyfriend. Yeah, you didn't know that. Did you?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Well, I didn't I actually I didn't hear this part of it. But I can say this is that they've been trying to recall her long before this investigation began because she's got some screw Enos about her. Yeah, including the net, you know, having some hard on regarding the ex chief of police and some other issues with the police department. And there's been a recall going on for at least six months. And so there's, yeah, maybe the boyfriend's got something to do with it, but she's suspicious. Well,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

we have a we have a former chief of staff who is blowing the whistle. And they've got great video of her, I guess during her her election, or I guess when she was chosen, elected as mayor, and he's behind her leaning over like whispering in her ear like, yeah, tell him tell him this. Now, it helps that he's black. It just makes the whole thing fabulous.

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When Nia Webb worked closely with and had access to shame town that few people have for a year and four months. Webb served this town's right hand person working as chief of staff when Tao was the district for council member websites she volunteered and spent countless hours on tells me your old campaign in 2022. She says she also led House transition team after Tao won the election. A lot of what's coming out now is the reason I resigned shortly

thereafter, winning Bella Action. She was more sad than surprised about FBI agents rating towels home on Thursday. I wasn't surprised. I was like finally. Finally, the truth is coming out where the truth was Taos boyfriend Andre Jones of being the mastermind and running pay to play schemes during Taos campaign for mayor. And after she wants.

I had found out that Andre her boyfriend was promising people jobs in our administration, promising people appointments on different commissions and boards from out of the mouths of people that told me they were promised positions. They were promised board positions and at the mouth of what they would always entree. Yeah, that was who they say Andre promised me this web claims Jones was controlling and calling the shots. She says

town went along with him. It said he's making her do things pushing her to do things that I don't believe she would do otherwise.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Blame it on the boyfriend. Blame it on the man

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

blame it on the black guy. Yeah, exactly. Oh, brother.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

He looks pretty shady. I gotta tell you that they got good video of him like whispered in your ear. Yeah, now blame it on the boyfriend. It's great. It's fantastic.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

We all it'll shake out eventually they they've raided a number of places. I think his house may have been one of them. But yeah, this has been going on for about a week or two. So she's not to be found. Now. She's no, no.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

remote location is in Cambodia? Yeah,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

she's in Cambodia.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

So we're kind of in the summer doldrums. Although, you know, right now, the it's the big teams, most of the New York elite, certainly the news elite, they're all off to the Hamptons. You know, we've got July 4 weekend coming up, we're only going to really focus on one thing, which is all the debate. So all the news is that debate, the debate, oh Trump in the debate. And so instead of doing what we used to do during the summer months, I remember quite well when I was a kid. And

I think you remember this as well. When we hit the summer, it will be hot. And we'd show you know pictures of people at the beach. Kids at the swimming pool. You got some poor fire hydrant or kids in the fire hydrant. Exactly, exactly. And be like wow, it's hot. And maybe that would be a joke, wasn't it?

Who was it that said sons of beaches. Remember that whole summer when it was it was that Reagan was that one of the Presidents called someone on an open mic a son of a b and then you know the weather guys are gonna ha it's gonna be son on the beaches.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Anyway, remember that at all? I have to look at that. I've looked that one up. So

Adam CurryAdam Curry

instead they're so lazy now we got cop 29 coming up in November in Baku. So instead of just showing the fun little, you know, swimming pool the beaches, it's everyone having a good time. It's hard. It's right. It's hard. The old frying an egg on the pavement in New York. I mean, we've this is what we used to do in the summer. No. Now it's extreme heat climate change. Breaking

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overnight. Amtrak says two train lines between Newark, New Jersey and New York City are canceled until further notice. Due to an equipment failure that will surely take a toll on today's commute during the extreme heat extreme service has been restored along the rest of the Northeast Corridor after

yesterday's power failure was shut down service. Meanwhile, Metro operators in the Washington DC area had to slow down their trains concern the extreme heat would expand the rails and no relief today, ties could hit 96 In parts of the Northeast, and we're expecting mostly 90 degree readings across the Midwest, parts of the Upper Midwest are dealing with extreme flooding, including Minnesota, and more storms are expected today. We'll check your forecast in just a few moments. It's

Adam CurryAdam Curry

all extreme. It's so hot, even though it's three weeks later than normally these hot temperatures come in. We can still make it sound like there's something of a crisis going on.

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And you start this off on the dangerous temperatures in the air quality alerts in parts of the country. Ginger, good morning. Hey, good morning here in New York City. We had our first official 90 of the season. And while that was three and a half weeks behind average look at this shot from New York City now that we've broken the Seal of 90 degrees from web from the

helicopter there. It's hazy, hot and humid. We should stay above 90 throughout the weekend, which would be then our first official heatwave.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I mean, it's it's it's later than usual, but it's a heatwave. It's our first 90 We've unsealed it. Oh, no.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

But you know, callate we've topped all this in California. Oh, you have? Yeah, well, I mean, right now it's cold out of course. You know, that's typical. But no, do we decide to pass a law.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

You got a law? What kind of law did you get? It

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

played the clip of California law. Second, California

Adam CurryAdam Curry

law.

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And a new rule is in effect in California protecting people who work indoors from dangerous heat. Oh amperes l 100. Maroondah has more more than a million people in California work jobs indoors that expose them to the kind of heat that can make people sick.

Tim Shaddix is the legal director at the warehouse worker Resource Center in southern California, in the States, 1000s of warehouses, the worst places we've seen, you know, in the summer, those workplaces, they're kind of they're like a tin can baking in the sun. Employers will now have to provide water and cooldown spaces for employees when it's above 82 degrees past 87. They'll have to find ways to cool workspaces.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

They have to do this at 82 degrees. You realize that people go to Hawaii, because it's 82 degrees all the time. Yeah, yeah, it's beautiful. It's 82 degrees, which is like the perfect temperature. You know, if you want to just enjoy your life. No, no, now it's like a disaster. Yeah. And then if it's seven, ah, we don't know what we're gonna do. Some

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employers will now have to provide water and cooldown spaces for employees when it's above 82 degrees past 87 They'll have to find ways to cool workspaces with tools like fans or air conditioning or just work requirements.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Once you say it then fans air conditioner,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

or air conditioner,

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or just work requirements work is to work work

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

requirement now there was slow down it's like a union Slow down, slow down.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Gotta boots on the ground from one of our producers. He says, you know, as Josh, I was listening to 1670 in the New York heat wave as someone who's worked outside for 14 years in southern Arizona, I have little boots on the ground.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Arizona and that's fine. There we go.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

When this heat dome pass through, it was toasty. Sure, but local news and radio blasted out excessive heat warnings and dangerous heat wave. What was the high in Tucson on those days? 102. I've lived in Tucson since 2007. ridden motorcycles year round. Sure it's warm. But I know for a fact the first time I heard an excessive heat warning warming

warning. It was issued when we were going to hit 118 The last few years still working outside of notice excessive heat warnings being issued over 110 Always that's always thought to myself That's strange. That seems lower than it used to be, but it could never remember at what point they issued the heat warnings Well, since it was registered my mind 110 When they issued the 102 Excessive Heat warning a couple of weeks ago. I couldn't believe it. That's a nice day in the middle of summer

for Tucson. So he's I agree everybody's temperature everybody's noticing this. But that's a

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

scam. This is ridiculous. The new news media is off the rails. Well, we need

Adam CurryAdam Curry

to keep our eye on this because this is where they're gonna. They're gonna get us with this nonsense. And we're laughing at it but we can't just laugh about it because it's killing the new commerce.

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Parts of the US and Mexico are in the grip of a searing heatwave with the Northeast United States seeing record high temperatures on the southern border with Mexico and arid climate already means hot weather. But now that heat has turned deadly for migrants attempting to cross the border migrants.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

No, not even illegal migrants migrants. This migrants. It's killing the newcomers. They're dying out there of heat exhaustion. And at the United Nations, they have a survey which shows something that I don't think anybody believes the

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recent heat waves we've been across Europe, Asia, and now the eastern half of the US are no surprise to climate scientists and UN officials. off the highway to climates. Yes, we exceed Dominus 100 over Maine and New Brunswick, Canada, so that's where the most intense departure from average is going to occur. The record temperatures across Asia Europe and the Middle East have reportedly caused hundreds of deaths, including many Muslim

pilgrims attending the harsh at the Grand Mosque in Mecca. Saudi state TV reported temperatures hitting nearly 52 degrees Celsius. But we concluded from the studies that human induced warming from burning fossil fuels made the five day maximum temperature event about 1.4 degrees hotter than it used to be. In the pre industrial period.

A new UN report surveyed more than 75,000 people across 77 countries 80% or four out of five people globally want their governments to take stronger actions to tackle the climate crisis. Over half of people said they think about the climate crisis either daily or weekly, and two thirds say that they incorporate decisions around their, their lives, what their where they live, what, what, where they work, what they buy, by taking into account the climate crisis? Do

Adam CurryAdam Curry

they take into account the climate crisis? Or do they take into account the weather? I'm gonna think it's the weather. Oh, look at this cute top. Let me think that would be perfect for the climate crisis this summer. This is so ridiculous. You know,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

the other thing is about these deaths at the

Adam CurryAdam Curry

highs. I went all the people die in there.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

There's always it and they're usually from out of town because the locals in the Middle East.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

What do you what are you from around here?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

You're not from around there. They're from Indonesia. You know, the big Muslim country in the world is Indonesia. And there's other countries they got a lot of a lot of Muslims, they go to the Hajj once in their life. Yeah. And then they did stay out. There never been to the Middle East. And they don't know you don't even go outside between my tickets like 1130 and four. And it's unbelievable.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

They had a lot of a lot of reports on the BBC when I was still over there. I'm back in Texas, obviously when I was still over there. And it was about these people who had died and they had a horrible stories like some grandma who's 72 called with a last dying breath called her daughter. You know, as she she she dies on the phone. And what most of them were talking about was that they had no illegal tour operators who weren't officially sanctioned to bring people over

to the Hajj. As like some people scamming them and like not giving them water and shelter. Wow. Yeah, yeah.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Yeah, they're basically murderers.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

So I just want to stick with the climate crisis here. Joy re read had an interesting twist on the on the money scamming being done off of this,

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that will begin tonight with the lucrative Politics of Climate collapse and the greed that is literally letting our country burn. Okay.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

So instead of people ripping us off for this nonsense, she's just twisted it around. I think that's what we call gaslighting.

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Today. Millions of Americans from Iowa to Maine are suffering through heat warnings or advisories full on

Adam CurryAdam Curry

stop. She's correct. We're only suffering through the warnings, not the actual heat. That's exactly

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

what I noticed. There's suffering from heat warnings

Adam CurryAdam Curry

and advisories. I am suffering from that.

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Yes. Today. Millions of Americans from Iowa to Maine are suffering through heat warnings, watches or advisories, cities across half of the country like Chicago, St. Louis, in the apple, Indianapolis, Detroit, Philly, and now New York, are hitting temperatures exceeding 90 degrees. Oh, no. It feels closer to 100.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

This, this feels like it has got to stop. I mean, this feels like

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

a good point. That is that has become a common occurrence. Yeah. Feels

Adam CurryAdam Curry

feels like and it's like, do you really know the difference between 92 and 100? A feel and why does it feels like is that because of the wet bulb is that? Well, we're back to now feels like

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

that's what I'm guessing are hitting

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temperatures exceeding 90 degrees Fahrenheit. So it feels closer to 100. Many of these cities could experience heat indexes hitting 105 degrees,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

HEAT indexes, mind you heat indexes. That's not the temperature. It's the heat index. 105

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degrees by Sunday looks increasingly oppressive hot days article incidents. They are they are the predictable impact of the climate crisis.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Oops, you flubbed that one too, which is interesting is

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increasingly oppressive. hot days aren't a coincidence. They aren't. They are the predictable impacts of climate crisis. And they're not just an inconvenience. They're also killing us at higher rates, killing us heat related deaths among older Americans have increased 54% In recent decades. In Florida, changing weather patterns are bombarding the southern tip of the state with a seemingly never ending series of storms that have left whole streets flooded cars crippled

and two people dead. In California, more than 20 fires sparked across the state since Saturday. We're running over 20,000 acres.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

But we have 300 million people in this country. We had two people dead. Yeah,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

but you know, hey, it could have been you and listen to the fires

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in California. More than 20 fires were sparked across the state since Saturday, burning over whizzes 1000 acres. These aren't just climate stories. They're actually economic stories because people are getting paid good money to ignore them. Ah ha

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

money for ignoring it.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Well thinks she's talking about us these podcasters good money,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

but we're not getting any we're not getting good money. The least. No

Adam CurryAdam Curry

kidding. Well, there's part two to this

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not only a big donors bought themselves, some politicians, they got some podcasters in their pocket too. But they've also bought themselves a federal judiciary that cares more about rich corporations and wealthy donors than they do about your health and well being. The Supreme Court is the most pro oligarch of All Time Pro

Adam CurryAdam Curry

oligarch of all. So this is some this is some good script writing. I mean, she's really nailing it with the heat index and the fields like and and the old pro oligarch. I guess he's talking about the Supreme Court. We do have an interesting twist, although she won't mention it by name.

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The six Leonard Leo, Justices Barrett, Kavanaugh, Gorsuch, Alito, Roberts, and Thomas, have the most I repeat the most pro big business voting records in the history of the court.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Is that true? Can we verify that you can verify that the most pro business will oligarch this is again,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

this is all about the Chevron deference? Right.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Listen, listen.

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They've ruled that corporations are people that the Environmental Protection Agency cannot protect you from pollution, and they're ready to stop

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

it. At least three of those justices weren't involved in the corporations are people decision. Yeah, they were on their own three dates. It predates Dorset, it predates good Kashmir, it predates the other way. Leader, good catch, so she's a liar. No. Stop rambling.

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Our mental protection agency cannot protect you from pollution. And they're ready to go even further by stifling the regulatory power of all federal agencies.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

stifling the power, I can't wait for Chevron deference to come up. That's going to be it's going to be so

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

cool to freak out though is it's weird. Why? Why is she or anybody else defending the bureaucratic state? Is

Adam CurryAdam Curry

it because possibly, that really is the deep state and this is where they get their, their information from? And this isn't, you know, they've got their buddies on the inside. I mean, it's all whenever Veritas now what is the name? O'Keefe? Whenever O'Keefe gets someone, which is usually some poor gay guy, it's always someone from inside the admin.

Yeah, inside these agencies. Yeah. So you've got to think that that's probably where the news media gets everything from and that CIA is also an agency FBI is an agency, all these agencies are? Well, I'm not so sure about the CIA and FBI, but But EPA department education, I mean, Department of Homeland Security, these are all these are all on they're all on the block potentially.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Well, yeah, this would be a CIA and FBI wouldn't be. They're not doing policy, so much as no secret police work. Yeah.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Round shirt stuff.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

But it's like this freak out still. And I will repeat this complaint of mine, which is that we never had this Chevron deference before 1984. And we had plenty of these agencies. I was one of more in one in one of them. And they got along just fine. Famously, they didn't need anything any special help now was and then they got the special help. And it was ironic because it was when the EPA was pulled back with the rains where they were pulled in by the Reagan administration to

do less regulating. That's when they get when the suit happened. It was just kind of the Beyond ironic. And then they realized that they could make hay with this and so once the Democrats gotten in power then they went the other direction nobody could do anything about it. But before 1984 there was not an issue why is it now suddenly an issue?

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Well, NPR is on the is starting to wise up to a couple of things mainly the scam that is the carbon offsets, which I mean, you can buy this on your plane trip ticket when you rent cars. There's all kinds of different places well once you add a 2% or 5% and save the earth if you've ever wondered if that's a scam, people who get whooped you ever wonder if that's a scam? listen to NPR first of what

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really is a carbon offset. I spoke to Danny Colin ward at UPenn about this. He says an offset is basically a promise. It's a promise that somebody else did something good somewhere else that resulted in a climate benefit. It could be a promise that someone protected a forest That would have been cut down, or a promise that someone made a wind

farm and switch from fossil fuels. The key promise being your money is actually reducing or removing a planet heating pollution, like that carbon dioxide pollution from your flight or your car rental. But Barbara hya at UC Berkeley says there's a problem. Most offsets don't represent what they claim. There are two big ways many offsets can be false promises. First, many

offset projects over estimate their impact. For example, many offset projects that claim they're saving forests from deforestation, research finds many are getting money for forests that don't actually need protection. So then is there any actual accountability? If a carbon offset company makes a climate claim? That's false? Is there a way for consumers to take action? Or is there enforcement here? In California, there is a bill in the state assembly right now.

All those promises of climate benefits that carbon offset companies make this bill would make those claims legally enforceable.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

So there's still time to get in. I think we didn't Isn't this where the whole net for humanity came from? This is not where the whole idea came?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Yes. I think there was one. That was like, I think we did that a little over a decade ago. Let me check on mine. If you remember, there was a vending machines at airports, they all disappeared, that we're selling carbon offsets. So when you took your flight, how many miles you're going and you get a little coupon that said, you you you thank you, you save the Earth

Adam CurryAdam Curry

2017 I think is when we first got that jingling. So we were probably talking about it in 2016. And the whole idea was you could have no agenda producers take a nap because it'd be less carbon dioxide exuded. And, and that will be carbon offset. And so it seems like there's no regulation it's it's a bonanza, it's a free for all. Let's listen to some more from NPR.

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That feels like a big problem if your money isn't actually reducing as much climate pollution as the offset claims. What's the other issue? Something called permanent offsets are supposed to reduce or remove carbon dioxide pollution, right? The carbon dioxide, some carbon dioxide stays in the atmosphere hundreds of years, some co2 sticks around even longer.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Wait, some co2 sticks around for 1000s of years? What is this magical dust? By the way, I think the troll room was right. It must have been much earlier than 2017.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

It must it must have been I think it was over 10 years. Yeah.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Oh, no, I think you're right. Let's go back to this this carbon dioxide that hangs around for 1000 years.

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Some co2 sticks around even longer 1000s of years 1000s.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

How do they know it? Is there still Jesus carbon dioxide hanging around?

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Here's the thing. The vast majority of carbon offsets only promised to remove or store co2 emissions for 40 years or less. Colin Ward says a 40 year promise of reducing emissions does not compare to a 300 year or several 1000 year impact of carbon dioxide. So if a lot of these are false promises, is the government doing anything to address these issues with offsets consumers? And

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I just love I just I just love the breathiness or the two. John is there. Is there really anything that we can do about these offsets? I don't know.

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If a lot of these are false promises is the government doing anything to address these issues with offsets consumers and companies are buying. Late last month the Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen announced new principles for high quality Janet

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Yellen. Janet Yellen announced something

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

she's a climatologist you didn't know that consumers and

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companies are buying. Late last month the Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen announced new principles for high quality carbon offsets.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Ah, there we go.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

The low quality carbon offsets now we're gonna have the high quality carbon we're

Adam CurryAdam Curry

number one foam finger number one for

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our offsets high quality that is offsets that actually reduce or remove climate pollution, that climate pollution even these new principles have gaps. For example, the principles do not identify how long offsets have to keep carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere no number. Also, these are just principles, researchers worry without enforcement, these voluntary principles might or might not be followed. A Treasury spokesperson said though the

principles released last month are voluntary. We believe they can help guide efforts to address the challenges Okay. Okay,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I finally figured it out. It's the exit strategy to end all exit strategies ready? Okay,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I'm all ears. How much

Adam CurryAdam Curry

carbon because we can't say carbon dioxide. How much carbon do you think is caused by every episode of the no agenda show taking into account? The work that you and I do the seven 800,000 people who listen, the computers, the phones they're using? This has got to be quite a lot of carbon, don't you think?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I have no idea. Let's put a number on it. Theoretically, yes, I've had to have a clip coming up, right. But let's just stick with what makes it even worse, whatever it is, whatever the number is. So whatever

Adam CurryAdam Curry

it is, I think we should sell carbon offsets to stop us from podcasting. So, think about it. We

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

have a counterintuitive,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

no, it's fantastic. It's a we need to sell the carbon offsets so that we don't waste all of this energy and carbon this beings being just sloshed into the air. And the carbon that we are exhaling right now, will be around for 1000s of years. It's high quality carbon that we are getting rid of me.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Okay. All right. What's your clip? Once you go? Well, these clips are about AI and how it's affecting the climate and ruining the day ruined everything. The

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rise of artificial intelligence is requiring faster and bigger computations for even simple tasks. Then for say, a Google search. It's adding to the demand for more internet data centers, the places that house all those servers that keep the internet running. But as Ali Rogen reports, there's a price to pay for that demand for data centers is growing rapidly. But these facilities come at a big environmental cost, especially for the communities that host them. Northern Virginia is the

largest data center hub in the world. The area is responsible for processing nearly 70% of global digital traffic. It's a rate that local officials say is unsustainable. Saatchi Kitajima Mulkey is a science journalist and writer for the climate focus news outlet gris Saatchi, thank you so much for joining us. First of all, tell us a little bit more about what a data center is. And why don't we?

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Why do we need so many data centers never

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we use the internet, upload photos to the cloud, send emails, watch a video, all of that data and digital information needs a home and it lives in these huge facilities called data centers, which hold 10s of 1000s of servers each and they process all that digital information for us. Something like 70% of the world's digital information is processed by a cluster of data centers in Virginia alone. And there are over 5000 facilities in the US.

Well, what are the environmental impacts of having some of these data centers in your backyard? So to process all that information, they need two things. The first is electricity, of course to physically crunch and process all that gigabyte going on.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Oh, all that gigabyte going on?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Yeah, this is our this is our super This is the science and technology writer. We just need to talk like that from now on. Hey, man, they're getting they're processing all that gigabytes.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I got a lot of gigabyte going on. How about you, John?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I got gigabyte going on. To be honest about it. I have terabyte going on?

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Oh, it's remember, it's not the size. He's got terabyte All right. All right. This

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

is good. So we already know that we have they're talking to an idiot. So we're gonna get good material out of this person. I'm loving it already information,

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they need two things. The first is electricity, of course to physically crunch and process all that gigabyte, go

Adam CurryAdam Curry

physically crunch, John is physically crunch. There's actually

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

a crunch. You actually missed that until now. Yeah. Physically physically crunching, grinders at these data centers, big giant rocks that roll around pulled by oxen, just

Adam CurryAdam Curry

to remind everybody

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elitist voices of America. This is NPR or PBS information, they need two things. The first is electricity, of course, to physically crunch and process all that gigabyte going on. The other is water, which are used in cooling systems to protect these servers from physically overheating. And researchers think they're in the top 10 Water consuming industries in the US they use 2% of the electricity in the US, which is

a lot. And A source told me that data center campuses can use the resources equivalent to a small city and as AI booms, they'll use even more the average AI application uses six times the amount of electricity so they run a lot hotter. And that scales exponentially. They just need more water to cool down. Whoa, whoa.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Whoa, she said that scales exponentially. That's kind of a contradiction that she's saying there. So it gets really hot need a lot of water that scales exponentially.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I think she Just using words, is

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even more, the average AI application uses six times the amount of electricity. So they run a lot hotter. And that scales exponentially. They just need more water to cool down. And how do these data centers in the United States and the world of water

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

do pull down to cool down to cool down or to cool down? Okay.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

But but you know,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I find it by the way, the one overlooked fat facet to this, as I find interesting is that 70% Of all the data centers are in, in and around randomly. Yeah,

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hmm. So you run a lot hotter, and that scales exponentially. They just need more water to cool down. And how do these data centers in the United States and around the world affect global efforts to decarbonize? It's tricky, because right now, we are building out green energy solutions at a great scale. It's happening really fast, but it

might not be happening fast enough. Currently, a lot of the grid is still running on fossil fuels, and even plans in Virginia to shut down you know, coal firing plants may not go through because these data centers need so much energy that grid operators need to fire those coal plants backup or just

keep them running in order to meet all that demand. So and one of the talking points of these data center reform coalition's I've spoken to is that that's a step backwards from clean energy goals and kind of almost a betrayal of some of the promises certain states have made to you know, get off of carbon.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Oh, okay. Get off a carbon. Yes, she

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

says cold coal firing, Isn't it cold coal him sorry, coal coal fired, coal fired.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

She's obviously a nincompoop. Well, she's on her way. Wow. Exit Strategy become tech journalists at PBS. Madam is John we're crunching the gigabytes for you right here on PBS.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Okay, with clipper we

Adam CurryAdam Curry

are number three. This is shorty need to set it up this shorty? Yes, no, this

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

is shorty for a reason you'll hear it when you when you hear it.

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And many of these data centers are located in densely populated residential areas. What's it like to live near one? Yeah, you know they're built near schools and neighborhoods protected nature parks in Virginia in particular. And one big impact is that they're really loud they hum and they bring all this noise pollution to the area.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

That's bull crap She's confusing it with with the Bitcoin miners I don't know what she's talking about. Data centers are completely quiet than ones that these goals no

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

noise pollution, Atom noise pollution from the giant data centers because it's buzzing. That's

Adam CurryAdam Curry

total horse crap. That's total it's the crypto mining guys who have no cooling they just have an open roof and they point all fans up toward the roof yet those are noisy but not this stuff. Bynum believe it wow okay, no,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

they're not noise I've been I actually visited may East ones which is one of the I built I built

Adam CurryAdam Curry

an exchange in Amsterdam

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Don't make noise it all

Adam CurryAdam Curry

on the outside they don't know. They can get noisy inside.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Yeah, because of all the fans but yeah, all the internal fans are just blowing on the CPUs yeah sure. I have a couple of computers that make a lot of racket I went to didn't add noise pollution outside I was

Adam CurryAdam Curry

at Mae Mae East when they had that flooding Do you remember that? I do remember that that was 90 That must have been 95 or 96 It was always

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

take me east by some very cynical guy. He showed me around and he says and then we as we leave this like the exit from there as you drive out through this like a parking lot underground parking lot basically. So you drive he says look at see we'd look above us as we're driving I see those things those are the main cables if you had a truck that's too big to tear him apart and bring down the whole internet and everything that was pointed out what a what a flaky operation it was what

Adam CurryAdam Curry

so we should probably explain the the May is m au A stands for metropolitan area exchange and we had that was the big one on the east coast we had the Mae West of course on the west coast we had the am six the Amsterdam we still have these

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Yeah, they're done they're not as important as they once were. No, no, but no, they're not all the traffic all the internet traffic used to go through all these things because you had to pay carriage to to get a good one. No, we had no in peering feeds. We had period period period hammies was peering happened, that was the end of it. Well, peering was

Adam CurryAdam Curry

great for a while, but then, you know, then they all got to consolidate and all became like, what do we have now AT and T and Comcast Comcast? Yeah. And there's maybe one of the Oh, how about MCI? Those guys still around?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I don't think so. All right, onward. All

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that concrete also means a huge increase. Some stormwater runoff, because that rain can no longer soak into the ground. It all has to go somewhere what? concrete. And so the amount of electricity also could be more than the grid may be able to handle. So when there's an outage, there's kind of a question of who gets the power of residents or data centers. Were talking to you now via Skype. We're using a lot of data to do it, though a

Adam CurryAdam Curry

lot of data on Skype.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Talking to you now on Skype, there's a lot of data involved. What are you nuts? How

Adam CurryAdam Curry

much gigabyte? Are we crunching on Skype right now? Okay, I hope there's a good comeback in this final dough.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

This is ridiculous. This entire report, our classic PBS reporters, they're clueless,

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as we increasingly rely on this type of cloud computing, to do so many things. We use apps we use, we do virtual meetings, that kind of thing. Is there any way that these data centers can continue to expand? Can I just got to

Adam CurryAdam Curry

hear that, again, we use apps I just got I just have to soak in the the nonsense. You know, meanwhile, we have the twit network going out of business. And this is what we're left with is sad.

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As we increasingly rely on this type of cloud computing, to do so many things. We use apps we use, we do virtual meetings, that kind of thing. Is there any way that these data centers can continue to expand, continue to grow and support all this usage? But do so in a more environmentally friendly way? No, clear? No, it is possible to build cooling systems that use less water, but we don't really see those built out at scale yet. And you could

power them with green energy. But again, right now we have a grid that's kind of stuck on fossil fuels, and we're slowly making the transition to green energy, but maybe not fast enough to meet all this demand. First, before we can really know what we need to do next, we just need more transparency from the industry, which scientists and activists both told me is pretty secretive. Google is saying it's a leader in sustainable data centers. And they only began releasing their water usage data

a couple of years ago after a lawsuit. And to that transparency point, I want to play for you a soundbite from an environmental activist in Northern Virginia, as we've said, where so many of these data data centers are located. One of the big things that concerns me is that some of these data center companies are claiming to be holding federal or Department of Defense servers, and therefore their critical infrastructure and cannot be allowed to go down.

And so there's this this question of who gets the water in a drought situation? And are they going to leverage that kind of argument of national security? to potentially say they get the water first? Are there any safeguards that exist to make sure that these companies are being honest about the types of companies that they're supporting with their servers and and what the effect on the environment is? We're kind of trusting companies to be transparent and do the

right thing. There are a lot of companies like to tell sustainability goals. But truthfully, we're trying to get laws through in Virginia right now, a couple of bills were introduced in Virginia and in other states, but they're not getting a lot of traction until we have that research we need. And so right now, Virginia is conducting a data center impact

study. And the results of that will come out later this year, hopefully, I mean, we're just seeing a lot of action in Virginia in particular, yeah,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

this there's something going on with Virginia. And that's what the what the why they put these idiots on this report, because really, the data centers, Utah. You know, there's some pretty big ones in Texas. There's a lot being built here. I don't understand this whole reports focus on Virginia, there's something else happening with data centers in Virginia.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I have to agree because it's this vicious way that area in the reporting.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Now I just realized I want to stay on this for a moment because there

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

will be end of it. Yeah, that's that's your five. Okay.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

There was an interview with President Trump. And this was actually quite I couldn't even watch the whole thing. It was the all in crew, which is Dallas capitalist

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

JKL well,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

so J cow. put on a suit and tie and like 1970s Buggles glasses.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

i By the way it can I make one quick comment about that outfit? He was wearing fleece? Because you know him I know we both know him run into him. What? Yes, what a Joe he usually wears a turtleneck but that but here he's wearing and I was trying to figure out why is he wearing this outfit? Because it doesn't look like anything he's ever worn before he showed up on the Jesse waters show brought to promote the interview. To promote the interview and waters call them J

cow and he comes up J kioku. Kerrison stupid nicknames because he's like J Lo get it.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Makes it even funnier cocktail. Yeah,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

that's it. Exactly why he's using this this moniker. And so he's wearing this suit and this pink tie and it's like, why is he wearing this outfit? And I realized who it is it said, That guy that's on Shark Tank. The Well Dressed guys shows up a lot on different Fox shows. I can't remember his name, Mr. Wonderful. That's the guy who's Mr. Wonderful. He's

Adam CurryAdam Curry

the guy who's so sharply dressed on there all these

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

guys His name is so somebody that Oh, leering. Oh, Larry. Larry. Oh, Larry. Yeah, he's

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Mr. Wonderful. Well, he's

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

always dressed to the 10s He's wearing a cufflinks he's wearing an expensive suit. He's got that exact same look. That's what Calacanis is copying. He's looked he sees Wow, this guy's getting a lot of attention. Maybe if I dress like because Calacanis is a copycat cancer what he's

Adam CurryAdam Curry

is we known him since the days of Silicon Alley when he was writing a rag he was literally around right

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

to do the producer stuff that we did once and one of his is doing he started pot he took big talk Leo into using this week and what startups No no,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

he stole it. He stole it from Leo. Well, he's

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I'm not I don't think so. Okay, well, you would know Leo gave him permission. Oh, Leo, only because he thought that Calacanis was gonna, you know, he didn't think he was going to be a competitor. It just Yeah, sure. Go ahead and use it. No, okay. He doesn't steal stuff. He, he's, he's a copycat, but he's not. He's not a thief. And so he took that little game permission. So yeah, okay. So he ran out with a whole series of this this week. And you know, when it failed anyway,

he's now he's this thing here. It looks like it's semi successful when

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I was. Well, he's got David Sacks on and Chum off, whatever, you know, chum off. What's the guy's name?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

He's got a good team. Yeah, no, those guys. Now he's dressing up like, Larry.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

When I was living in LA, remember, Christina moved out there for a little bit. And she lived in LA, you may not remember. But she did. And you know, she was basically looking for it was a weird period. And you know, that was going through divorce was It was messy. It was a messy, messy time. The she was out there, and she was living with a bunch of weirdos and I was trying to keep my eye on her. And I was trying to get her a gig and then I was on Calacanis his show, which, what

was it wasn't This Week in Startups. It was something maybe it was I remember that he had, he had his kind of little company there. And I took Christina and he said, Oh, yeah, no, come back. And, and so she did an interview, she interviewed for a job there. And she came back said, I'm never going to work for that creep. Dad, that guy's weird. My daughter wouldn't even work for him.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

So there's other people that went through that, you know,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Molly wood for a while Molly was even

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

a good sale is he is an excellent sales guy. And he knows how to do it. He says, Yeah, he's really good. Yeah. And so he's done well for himself. And I, you know, enjoy. He definitely talked like just as much you notice this when he resigned,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

but his whole thing, what he did well, is he he kind of got into that Y Combinator group and invested in some things early. And that's why he got into Uber early. And then you know, he invested in Tesla early, because through his contacts at Sequoia I think we got a rule off the hill dropping him to Oh, Rudolph, I heard from Rudolph Rudolph is the CEO now he's the David Rudolph is the is the South African Cabal, the other part, the part of Elon that actually does stuff behind

the scenes. And, and, you know, and so he's Elon is best friend. I remember he was at the takeover of Twitter, and he was oh, maybe I should be the CEO. Goodbye. I haven't forgotten that. Remember, he was kind of vying to be be

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

CEO. Anyway, well, he's you know, he does he is a good sales guy but he doesn't he's not perfect so I can't pull everything up look but this idea of wearing this suit and tie that he's got let's check I just shake shake him and he's got a different kind of hair cut those glasses you talked about he's he's posing as a poser.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

He kind of looks like a 70s studio 54 coke dealer Don't you think in the way he looks now? Yeah, maybe

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

it might be an interesting anyway. It's just and who knows? I don't know. What's he up to? We don't know. Well, first let me just say but he did get he get on. He got on waters and waters lapped it up like I

Adam CurryAdam Curry

want to say the world would be a lot less colorful without Jason. I'm I mean, I'm happy he's in. I sincerely mean that. We rag on him. But

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

it would be gorgeous. That does what we do. It's would be a A lot less colorful without Jace anyway,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

so there's only so I'm watching this interview and Jason is trying to be funny. I'm trying to do you know, tough questions which Trump was not having at all. He was not having. I listen to this on the plane, and I fell asleep. So after like 2530 minutes, half an hour and a half. I couldn't even listen to it. But I did listen to this one thing. And it was kind of like, oh, because David Sachs is the dangerous guy here. What is what is the deal with this? David Sachs? Where's he's

from? Because that's, that's why Trump is on this show. David Sachs, what is his deal? Well, he's

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

a bundler for sure. Yeah,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

he's an entrepreneur, a bundler. There you go. Bundler

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

is a bundle. He's the guy who knows how to put together a party. They bring in millions. Yeah.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Candidate. He's in Pallant. Also,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I guess IVC in some ways, but I think is his skill is being and he's one of those guys. Yeah. He'll get he'll become David Sachs, who will be in the Trump administration. Yes. As the ambassador to France, or England or something like that. And all these VCs want to be ambassadors. Yeah. But

Adam CurryAdam Curry

maybe he'll get something, something close. But we'll see. He'll do. Now. He might do policy. So So I guess David Sachs, was part of the biggest CEO get together and maybe was at his house. And they told Trump about this little little two word thing and little thing, a little little thing called AI. We

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have a phenomena coming up right now. And I was talking about it the other day to David. And that's AI little thing, simple, two little simple letters, but it's big. And I realized the other day, more than any time when we were at David's house, and talking to a lot of geniuses from Silicon Valley and other places, they need electricity at levels that nobody's ever experienced before to have to be successful to be a

leader in AI. The amount of electricity that is like double what we have right now and even triple while we have right now. They are they It's incredible how much they need to be the leader. And we're gonna have to be able to do that. And a windmill turning with its blade knocking out the birds and everything else is not going to be able to make us competitive you'll have what

Adam CurryAdam Curry

about what about nuclear? Mr. President? Yeah, so let me just give you a statistic so many go on he actually he knows he knows the problems and even said, you know, France, those guys are smart. They did. They got modular, they can do all the same thing. Not like we're idiots. Everything's different every so he he was good. But he's being psyops in

this AI thing. And you and I had been talking. We don't talk much outside the show, but after the show was, um, you know, post producing, and we're compressing everything getting it all done. We'll chat a little bit. And we've been talking about when, what is it? What is the trigger that is going to take this nonsense down this AI?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Right? And we did discuss this in the last post mortem. Yes,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

post mortem. And I think I may have found one and it comes a lot because you said if we could figure out what the real downfall was of the dot, what pop the.com bubble, we may be able to figure out what pops the what pops the AI bubble, and I think I may have found it. And

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

when did you figure out what popped the duck? Because I think back on it, and I'm thinking what the hell pop the.com Well,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

allow me. I was in the Netherlands in 2000, end of 99 2000. And it was World online. World online was going to be the biggest IPO run by a lady called Nina brink. And I know Nina Brink Because Ron Blum and I tried to get our initial financing from Nina brink. Because you know, we were run all over the world. Yeah, we before we, before we had the venture capital money, we're trying to figure out where can we raise money from and of course, you know, I had my

contacts in Holland, and somehow we run into Nina brink. And she's been involved. I mean, her. Her whole thing is, oh, we'll do a big announcement with an LOI. We'll have an LOI. She's a miss loi, which is a letter of intent, which is completely meaningless. At the end of the day, she didn't actually want to invest. She wanted to give us a subordinated loan. Right. Okay. No. So it was a big run around and but she is very she has been

very successful in a whole bunch of other businesses. And now she was going to set up this whole world online thing she had, and she had bought France Telecom and all these different internet providers, and was going to be the global online internet provider. And everybody had money in the IPO. I had friends and family. Oh, I mean on the friends and family was great. She just she discloses one day before the IPO that she actually

sold all of her stock before the IPO. And the IPO tanked and after that, as far as I know, everything in public markets went just went to crap and the whole thing fell apart. I can't say for sure that the world online failed IPO was really the trigger but it I find it coincidental that she pops up in

the news. As I'm traveling back from the Netherlands. I'm at the airport and the financial newspaper the financial doc blood has this whole story about renovado Biosciences here in fact, Hindenburg researchers after them, you know, Hindenburg research. Oh, yeah. These are the short sellers. Here's their headline renovado biosciences, a worthless AI shell game with a murderous magician past. I mean, and this has Nina bring who's now Nina storms, Dr. Nina storms no less than wood. So she was

somehow she bought this. She was involved in this Biosciences Company, which was set up by this guy who had you know, he's he's one of the most important scientists in the world. But it turns out that he killed one of his forehead, one of his former partners shot to death. And then the whole thing is a mess. But what she was going to do was going to bring in this company and put it together with this run renovado biosciences, and they took it public. And she brought in this company called

Jenny cube, which is literally nothing. Jenni cube, GN ICU B E, which is kind of interesting, because you know, whenever you put cube in, it sounds so scientific. And, and this thing is coming. It's publicly listed, this thing is coming apart at the seams. And there's all kinds of investigations and and because the sheep brought in the AI nonsense. I mean, there's, I mean, really gobbly gook of flowery language, which really

is means nothing. Absolutely nothing. I think that this may, even though it's not a direct trigger, I think that this is it. I think whenever Nina Brink shows up, it's time to bail.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Well, then why should go short in video and see what happens? Good luck.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I don't know. I'm not so sure I want to do that. But but at least things know that.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

We have in our audience, kind of I would say armchair analysts,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

yes, we do. Who knows

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

develop stuff. of many of these ideas are quite good. They're just not. They're not polished. But we have at least 10 people in our audience that can have theories, I bet if we asked for them, that can provide us with theories as to why the.com collapse took place. Now I remember a previous collapse. And this is the more obscure and I can't remember the name of the IPO that failed. And it became a collapse the entire industry of council games during the Atari era. Console games.

Yeah, there was a big boom in games that refer these game consoles not to you know, this is all pre Nintendo is when you had the Atari and a bunch of these other you know, Pong was was a player back in Yeah. And there was a bunch of these games that we came up for the Atari mostly game councils, all blocky was terrible. But there was the one Vamp and Colico vision. That was that was an example. Yeah. And there was a bunch of these

companies. And then one of them there was these IPOs that were starting to develop, and they were coming out with these different these game companies and one game company failed. And they brought the whole industry down. And it was the end of it. In fact, there wasn't anything after that, except the Nintendo was was left in the it was kind of came out of the ashes and took over the place. And then Sony came in later. And then we

had other things say again, and things like that. It was a very interesting phenomenon of Washington transition from one to the other, but a collapse took place in the meantime. And that collapse was triggered by a fail. A failed IPO that was triggered by something that would again is one of these things that the trigger mechanism may be elusive. But when it happens, it's noticeable. And it goes fast.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Yeah. slowly, very slowly and then fast all of a sudden, I wonder what that was. I wonder what that was? Because the Nintendo NES came at the was it Sega

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

will shake it No, Sega came up with NES and they hung in there for the for most of the the second round of games. And Sega just quit on its own. It just decided out of the blue to stop doing it. After the Dreamcast, which is a killer

machine. But that whole market is is a study in itself. But to study these other phenomenas, and the AI thing is there it will happen because there's no way that this is going to continue with their power requirements and some of the things going on with the with, with the promises and and delivering not much more than just kind of crappy art.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

There's not much going on. Yeah, isn't that nice demos? Everybody

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

is not right. We don't see any Shakespearean plays coming out of any of this stuff.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Well, what what is definitely sure is that people are very disappointed by the reality of the interaction with the voice response versus the demo. Because I, because I know, Sam Altman was also interviewed by Jay Cowell about a month ago and right so you know, as I'm thumbing through away from this Trump interview, I get the Altman interview, an hour of nothing, the guy says nothing. Yeah, that's really interesting.

And, and J cow, and Charmouth. And whoever these guys are, sacks, they were all saying, Well, you know, it has a lot of promise, but it was the latency. They kept talking about the latency. I didn't see any latency in that demo with Oh, I see you're sitting in a cool room. Are you getting ready to do a podcast or maybe a demo? There was no latency there. So they sexed it up the whole demo is fake and phony. is fake and phony.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Yeah, well, that's nothing new now. Well, we haven't fed, you have at least some thoughts on this. And but we're soliciting further thoughts from the audience of producers? Yeah.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Well, particularly the gaming history. Someone out there will know for sure. But this has this has got and when this goes, Man is going to be spectacular. I think they need to keep

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

it as spectacular as the.com collapse. To me, that was the most spectacular thing I've ever seen. Well, that took the whole market. Well, this will to this. Will that mean the NVIDIA for is carrying the market? Yes,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

it's carrying everything.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

But what we've gone from a chipmaker that makes, you know, processors for gamers to the biggest corporation in the world. Really?

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Yeah. Which needs eight times the power to power their chips, but even work, it's just hard. No, it's like, no, this is not going to happen. Anyways, speaking of fake and phony, I'm going to get two more clips here from I'm gonna go back for a second power and energy. So we have the unique opportunity to show the future a unique opportunity, I say, to show the future of solar and wind and how we all can live in harmony without any carbon dioxide, I'm sorry, carbon, and

that is Ukraine. Ukraine could be a shining example. And the Lensky is actually thinking about it. Ukraine,

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the energy grid has come under sustained attack from Russian missiles. It's caused more blackouts. The country's facilities already struggling after repeated targeting a barrage of strikes have continued this afternoon. Three people reported dead in our Keefe. Now President Volodymyr Zelensky has said this week there needs to be a rush for replacement solar energy for civil institutions across the country, he said is a time of panic. Let's have a listen to

his words from overnight. The government has been tasked with immediately presenting a program to encourage the installation of solar generation and energy storage systems and Ukraine's proposal program that is as favorable as possible, David. All

Adam CurryAdam Curry

right. Let's do it. Let's prove it. Let's bring out some solar make it all work power your cities. I'd love to see it. We all know it's not going to work. quick little update on the orange painting of Stonehenge and Taylor Swift jet. So as I already said, it wasn't Taylor Swift jet. No, these people just went in spray painted someone else's jets. And the like this is this is very this is a very costly thing. If you can't just fly with some paint on there. You know,

there's all kinds of bad things happen at high speeds. And so I go looking like but what exactly because it came out of fire extinguishers. It looked like that. Fire extinguishers. The stuff they were Yeah, they were filled with paint. Well, no, it's not paint.

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So Danielle, what do we know about the as protesters, and is this orange stuff like reversible like is are these rocks gonna be okay? They're gonna be okay. And they're gonna wash away at least that's what we're told by the protesters. I'm not gonna give you our viewers history lesson here. But there's a reason why Stonehenge is so remarkable. It's a UNESCO heritage site. It's one of the most recognizable landmarks here in the UK, built 4500 years ago. It's in perfect alignment with

the sun. We don't know who built them. But we do know today who tried to damage them a 21 year old student from Oxford University, a 73 year old man who was quoted as saying that the orange corn flour that was used to create this eye catching spectacle will wash away with the rain, but not the climate crisis if the leaders don't act.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Okay, now I have

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

arrived. I've heard just corn starch and a pigment,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I got a serious question. I have a serious question. If they haven't ruined anything, because it washes off. Why are we putting this on the news? It's the same. They go on hold they spray painted a painting? No, they put paint on the glass. Why are we putting these idiots on the news if they didn't do anything? There?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Well, I'm not going to argue about the point that this should not be covered. But it's at Well, I think the reason you put it on the news because you got some crazy maniac with a fire extinguisher filled with his goo. And they're spraying our side of an airplane and you have a video of it is but it was probably saying you know this is kind of interesting. Let's at least run it. Oh,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

yeah. No, it's because there's a point to be made. It's all theater. It's not actually ruining the airplane. It's actually ruining the priceless art. It's not ruining Stonehenge. It's it's MK Ultra is we're being mind controlled into thinking that these children apparently a 73 year old are so incensed that they they feel they have to go and destroy valuable objects they're not

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

well a couple of things. First of all, until I see a washing machine spray just take a pose and spray off that crap that's on the airplanes which is typically what should

happen the way they're describing it. I don't believe it it's especially don't believe the thing with stone edge that pigment if you ever buy just raw pigments and you can do that if you're if you go to an art supply place a big one where they sell literally just sell pigment they don't sell it's not paid as pigment is powder and you can mix it with cornstarch if you wanted to. And

Adam CurryAdam Curry

he said he says it's corn dust.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

It's corn flour, corn flour or corn starch it doesn't matter I we know what this is it's a bits of its powder that you mix with the pigment then you wait no way you can make it wet and make a slurry and you can spray the slurry.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Are you with extinction rebellion?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

No, I'm just saying this this reporting about how this stuff is wash right off is bull crap. I

Adam CurryAdam Curry

don't Well you have no which was your clip.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I want to see it washed off. That's what I'm just show me.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Okay, well, I'm just saying that you're saying that. No one said pigment. No one said that. You're putting pigment in there that stains everything.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Where's the orange come from is not some magic from

Adam CurryAdam Curry

the Cheeto dust.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Which is pigment. It's a

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Cheeto dust. You can lick your fingers and it comes right off.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Whistle last time you tried to get all that crap off your hand on the plane

Adam CurryAdam Curry

that they serve Cheetos on the plane.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

What plane serves Cheetos, you got united

Adam CurryAdam Curry

they got dudes and dresses. It's a great airline. They got everything, dude. Alright, now we're talking about food. I'm going to take this one right up your alley, the latest in food cuisine. It's a code cuisine. The exclusive

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solutions to the climate crisis will take many forms. One of which is algae. That's according to Chef Callum Monroe. He comes down to the coast every other day to collect seaweed here on the Scottish Isle of Skye. Every week, maybe twice or three times a week actually become a yeah, see this one here which is I would say up there with the best at sea spaghetti as you can tell why it's called Sea spaghetti because it just looks exactly like this. Again, it's

quite a subtle flavor. But you can use it just as human spaghetti together with climate activist Shona Cameron, the two are trying to bring seaweed back into the kitchen. As a renewable alternatives to fish and meat. The seaweed is the vegetable of the sea and is available all year round. Now sharing these ideas with schools condo with recipes for the children to learn. Oh

Adam CurryAdam Curry

there you Go teach him how to how to eat seaweed. It's the vegetable of the sea.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

That we're not sure what to say this we're going too far with thanks. It says it stinks. It's a nice wrapper for sushi.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Yeah, that's about it. Stop. Stop there. He's holding up the stringy seaweed. Oh, it's just like spaghetti. In fact.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

That's not well. That would be the world's worst spaghetti but okay. Yes.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I'm in agreement with you. Man Oh, man. Oh, man, we

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

before we drift too far astray. Because you did mention Trump. I want to bring it back to that. Trump. I watched Trump's Philadelphia speech ah,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I'm glad you did. Okay,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I put it aside I wanted to see if he had new material or

Adam CurryAdam Curry

is up to it was was the kind of losing a little bit because now this

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

bowl crab in fact, he brings that up

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I I'm just telling you, you I played this bull crap. He's prompter went out and he wasn't good. And you heard you agree.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I just see I disagree. He didn't use much of a prompter in this speech. But he does ramble. And then he mocks himself for rambling he discusses it needs reflect you

Adam CurryAdam Curry

thought the shark and the and the electrocution was a good bit.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I didn't think it was a good bit. It was a one of his bits though. And I didn't think it was horrible, like you said, but I do have two examples of new bits. Okay, one of them which is worse than the shark. And one that I think he's going to use in going forward. He has a bunch of new material that he's trying out a he's does an hour and a half. He did two, two speeches on. He went did one in Washington DC I guess which I didn't see. And then he went to Philadelphia and did a big one.

And it was interesting to see how he keep his audience. I always check the background because he always has a bunch of people back there behind him and he always has a couple of babes that have the they have a very distinctive Trump babe look, they got kind of their their kind of angular face is very pretty photogenic looking anyway, or telegenic and always holding up signs and undecided back. He's got the signs are all

two sided now. So he's got two messages, usually the Trump 24 ones and the other one was

Adam CurryAdam Curry

where they calot where they calla pitches.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

The girls don't show their asses. They're just a bunch of pretty faces in the audience. All right, thank you. So the he's got the signs and the science a Trump something on one side and the other side says, Too Big to rig is his latest news. Okay, so all the signs you flip a Ross is too big to rig. And but slowly he the background evolves. So when he finished the speech and started talking about his audience behind him, it was all black. It was there wasn't a white face in

the crowd. It was all got it. I mean, you see him switching them out. Excellent. And you can see a couple of them were very, you know, these very pretty women there were everyone was swapped out very slowly, like I think one at a time. Oh, and then there's always a complete black audience behind him at the very end so he could reflect on this.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

We're literally doing this as he was speaking. They're rotating the audience. Yes. Wow, that's slick.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

And he had an hour and a half to do it. So that was it was so slow that you didn't unless you watch the beginning, and then cut to the end, you wouldn't have noticed that

Adam CurryAdam Curry

it was like a rotating stage. But it just slowly wrote on a rotating

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

stage. So anyway, so he has, I have two examples of his new material. All right. And they're short, but this is under Trump, and this will be the one we're going to play here is Trump, Pennsylvania, New Material One, but they

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get in there all these horrible compromising posts. And then they say he wasn't it really wasn't that way it was. So then everybody sends in, they all have cameras. See every one of you have a camera. If I blow it up here, though, they actually they take a perfect, brilliant, beautiful statement that I make. I go for two hours without teleprompters. And if I say one word slightly out, they say he's cognitively impaired. Whereas Biden can run into walls. He can fall off the

stage. He can fall up the stairs. He pulls up. He can turn around, listen to this. From 20,000 feet of paratroopers landing right in front of him. Everybody, oh, the foreign leaders they're watching. And he turns around to look at a tree. And then they say it was fake. He was fine. And then the press goes along with it. They go along with it. They say isn't a terrible way, the way they cover him now. Now he's terrible. The worst president in history. Bye Far, and we have to get about,

or this country is not going to survive. Another year. No.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

All right. All right. That's good. That's funny.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

So that was your material. So he did. So later he does this bit, which is the second clip only have two. And this was a bomb. And it was, and I left the pauses in at the end. So he let the whole thing play. And he, he gets nothing from this material he's going to do. And then so he that's a slide for a while, and then he changes the subject so radically, and I only have the beginning of the switchover at the very end. And I was just saying, you shake your head, but this will you'll

never hear this bit again. But every

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every day, you're reading about this. But how embarrassing is it for me to say, we will build a wall or we will build a border. But how embarrassing it is to say we will keep men and of women's sports who who would want men to play women's sports. And yet for them for all these people, including the fake news media, for whatever reason. It's like a big deal. Who would want it? Did you ever look at the weightlifting records? Records that stood for 18 years? And a

guy comes up? Have you lifted before? No, I haven't. Well, they say a guy a person who transitioned. Have you lifted before? No, I haven't really? A couple of days. Just over the thing, being being Bing Bing are we crazy? Are the swimming with a obliterate records obliterate the women get Winburn as the boys go by? I'm suffering tremendous windburn what happened to doctor says, Oh, well, I was swimming. I'm an Olympic swimmer. But a person transitioned. And he went by me

so fast that the wind burned the hell out of me, doctor. No, it's so it's so crazy. And it's so horrible for women. It's so embarrassing for women. I will fully uphold our Second Amendment.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Switch. Well, at least he knows when to get out of it.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

But yes, he does. He bailed. This is that Winburn thing. You'll never hear it again. I'm sure of it because that was a just bombed dog.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

It's this is because of turning point USA. You know, Charlie Kirk is touring with the women now. And he's got Megyn Kelly and Candace Owens and Riley Gaines. And that's why he's trying to shoehorn this in but his punch line is right. He should be and there's a dude in a dress. I mean, he used to do something like that. That's funny. Now like he's

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

real Yeah, it wasn't it was just funnier than what he did that bit didn't work. I make them weightlifting thing almost got there but they did that Winburn thing was no good loser in that he's not gonna you'll never hear it again going back and then it switched a second American audience back

Adam CurryAdam Curry

going back to the first clip. The MSNBC is real is doing this now. He's right there trying to make him look like his losing his mind. So now we have the cheap fakes. Biden's great sharp as a tack sharp as a tack sharp as a tack sharp but Trump Oh, no. So I have three clips. I'll pretty short do actually the second to a very short. This is the first one British check of course. And and here's how MSNBC is showing that Trump is losing his mind. There is

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new audio of Donald Trump admitting that he lost the 2020 election and then quickly reverting back to the original lie. It comes from research for the new book, apprentice in Wonderland by Ramin Syd Tudor. He spoke to the former president six times and recorded the conversations. Trump's admission that he lost came during a conversation about his relationship with Geraldo Rivera, what was for all the work? He was good. He did a good job. He was smart, cunning, he did a good job.

And are you guys too close? Or you know, I don't think so. He is. After I lost the election, I won the election. But when they said he called me up three or four times after I lost the election. I won the election. And another conversation with between Trump and Institute. The former president claims that Joan Rivers voted for him in 2016. She was a Republican. I thought she might have been a

Republican. I know one thing she voted for me, according to what she said one small hitch with all of that general has actually died two years before that election. He's losing

Adam CurryAdam Curry

his mind. I tell you, losing his mind. Now listen to Morning Joe, because they're really doing this now.

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So like person downloads in May. He wasn't doing a lot of interviews and then we sat down again towards the end of the summer. And when I sat down, I, you know, there was a very blank expression on his face. So I asked you remember when we spoke recently? And he said, No, I have no memory of that. And he couldn't recall he said it was a long

time ago. And then we had to start from scratch. So the interview started from square one where he was started telling me the same exact stories that we that we heard in our first interview, so he didn't remember

Adam CurryAdam Curry

some numb nut from a morning, Joe. And so he's losing his mind. He's losing his mind.

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But he also seemed to think that he still had some foreign policy powers. And there's one day where he told me he needed to go upstairs to deal with Afghanistan, even though he clearly didn't. He told you that he while you were interviewing him at Trump Tower, he told you he needed to go upstairs to deal with Afghanistan with the quote, the Afghanistan is how we refer to it.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Oh, he's losing his mind.

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losing his mind, I tell you,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

yes. I have noticed this this phenomenon, too. And it's always on, it's on CNN and MSNBC only. And they are looking at the one that really got everybody's attention was when he called Ronnie Jackson, Ronnie Johnson, at one of his speeches. So everybody jumped on this, including Jon Stewart, on his on his Monday night show. Yeah. And it was Bah, he can't even remember the name of his own doctor. And, and they use it and they've been Trump referred to that particular moment in his

Pennsylvania's speech. And but yes, they're trying to make him seem like Biden. Now, almost the same age, you know,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

since you bring up Jon Stewart, so he does the Daily Show on Fridays, I think is it one day Mondays, Mondays? One day a week, but he also has the Daily Show podcast, and of course, this is up my alley, because you know, pod father everything. Boy, pay attention, that stuff. And the so you think the Daily Show podcast, I think it was originally called the Johnson, I'm not quite sure that the name has changed. Sometimes he drops the podcast from it. But you'd be expecting to hear a

funny, you know, like a, like an irreverent type show. No, it's

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

what you'd expect a podcast to be extreme.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

It's a bit boring. And he has Blong boring conference. It's kind of like that Apple show, which was just boring. So that Apple show is the worst. So so he got this boring show. And it's interesting, because he did did just have a minute and a half of the boring show, where he talked to Kathleen Hicks. Who is I don't what is she? What is her? She's high up in the paint and a Department of Defense. Isn't she the?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

She was one of Trump's old assistants now.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

That was the Qt No, that's a different one. That was the press secretary? No. Kathleen Hicks is the Deputy Secretary of Defense. And he gets into it, whether about the audits of of the Department of Defense, or as we would say, audit the Pentagon, it would be a good thing. And I thought what came out of it was kind of interesting. I had an opportunity

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to speak with the Deputy Secretary of Defense cap,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

you can already hear the show is boring. It's like,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

yeah, it's already it's already boring wants to be on PBS or something or NPR. He

Adam CurryAdam Curry

needs to he needs to get closer to the mic. I had an opportunity to speak to a Catholic and activity Secretary of the Department of Defense.

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And I just asked about the failing of the audits. And I want you to I want you to listen, I think to what I felt like was a remarkably defensive for no reason, attitude about even the prospect of being questioned on this. But don't you think that that does speak to the larger point that we're trying to get at which is good journalism, uncovers corruption. And I mean, good journalism doesn't cover corruption, but I'm not sure these two things are linked and honest. Not they

are. Okay. So you need to explain to me, do you understand what an audit does? And the degree to which it is linked to the question that you're asking? I believe so. Okay, go ahead. Give me your explanation. No, I don't mind learning. So what I would suggest is that the audit that they have in the military doesn't really look at whether or not there's efficacy, it just whether they got delivered the thing that they ordered, and that is any audit, that is any audit, that is true.

Generally, those audits aren't $400 billion for Raytheon and $1.7 trillion, for a plane that doesn't seem to be doing like there is a lot of waste fraud. On an abuse within a system audit, waste, fraud and abuse are not the same thing. So let's decompose these leads educate me on what so an audit is exactly what you just described, which is,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

why did you say let's decompose this?

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That's playback or just for a plane that doesn't seem to be doing like there is a lot of waste, fraud and abuse within a system audit, waste, fraud and abuse are not the same thing. So let's decompose these leads educate me on decompose.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Yes. She

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

said that she said decompose.

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waste, fraud and abuse are not the same thing. So let's decompose these leads educate me on what so an audit is exactly what you just described, which is do I know what was delivered to which place? Right the ability to pass an audit or in the fact that the DOD has not passed not and is not suggestive of waste, fraud and abuse? The conversation goes on to the point where she says to me, you seem awfully concerned about the money,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

so I stopped it there. But that was kind of I thought that was interesting that an audit is not about the waist, no, it's about we spent $100,000 on a toilet washer. And did we get it or not? Not if it's not if it's a wasteful expenditure? So that was the only interesting thing of that entire boring show. But it leads well,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

yes, well, I will say this, that she got defensive because of the nature of the way he orchestrated the question by assuming immediately that there was waste, fraud and abuse, and that's the reason for no audit. So I believe that she reacted properly to an accusation and unfounded accusation. Just

Adam CurryAdam Curry

a suspicion, a hunch, merely a hunch we have there may be some waste, fraud and abuse going

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

on. Yeah, and you can be sure there is. So this brings me

Adam CurryAdam Curry

to the big the big announcement. It's, as we say, in the lowlands, the coho is daughter Khattak the bullet has been shot through the church. I have no idea why they say that.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

The bullet has been shot through the church. Yeah,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

the girl who was daughter Catholic. I have no idea why this Dutch say there must be is there any historical reference to something being shot in a church? Well,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

that was say the first of all the Dutch were one of the biggest proponents of Lutheranism, the looser and NISM sorry, loose, they're all Lutherans. They're the churches are and that was it because it was early and the Catholics of course, were, were banned pretty much. There's a couple of secret Catholic churches around and it's possible that some booked Catholic shot a shot at the preacher or something in in a Lutheran church. That's my only kind of a long shot guess I

Adam CurryAdam Curry

just looked it up and I can't find anything right off the bat but I will have to look that one up. So anyway, the bullet has been in the bullet is through the church. And we have a new incoming head honcho of NATO just came

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through in Brussels this week. A new leader is poised to take over as NATO Secretary General is the former Dutch Prime Minister Mark Ruta, who secured the backing of each member state the only other credible competitor was Romania's President Klaus Yohannes. He's backed out of Teflon mark is his nickname

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Hold on a second. I have been following Margarita for a while. I've never heard anyone refer to him as Teflon mark. I mean, maybe Crisco mark, but Teflon Mark No. Klaus

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Yohannes is backed out of Teflon that Mark is his nickname in The Hague. One biographer said the 57 year old cycling format and fanatic has a trademark is called Neverland, which LK

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Miran, also something I've never heard. And I think he is referring to may Viren, which he'll translate as he's bouncing stretching along. No, I would say it's more like sucking up being a slime ball. Being a fair weather friend doing whatever is popular. That's what the translation of Maven is, or as he says, Maven. So already we've got this this, that we're building up sad

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

reporting, as usual, bad reporting, but

Adam CurryAdam Curry

they they also call them the Trump whisperer. Oh, yes, he'll be able to get Trump this guy who was in HR at Unilever somehow became prime minister for oh my god, what was he 12 years a long time forever long time.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Well, that's the whole show

Adam CurryAdam Curry

and he's worse.

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On biographer said the 57 year old cycling format and fanatic has a trademark is called Neverland, which means belts and cycling

Adam CurryAdam Curry

fanatic he rides a grandma Bike to Work he's not On a 10 speed with with the lycra has

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a trademark is called me Vinod, which was bouncing, stretching along, working with whoever he needs to work with to govern. To rule with. This was my router talking to the press in the past 24 hours. It is, of course an incredibly interesting position. It starts in three months. There is a fantastic Secretary General at the moment. But let me not give the impression that I am going to do something different from Jens Stoltenberg.

We also know about my router. He likes his routine. According to his biographer, he's always in the same cafe on a Saturday in the Netherlands something that I think we'll quickly change with security personnel on advice and also that he loves you too. And he loves you too.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

That's what he loves you to the band you to

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

you to the band. Yes,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

he loves you to the band. Yes.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Oh, that's, that's insightful. So

Adam CurryAdam Curry

this is like the Tiger Beat. biog. What

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

is the point of taking some guy like that and, and making the head making him the head of NATO because

Adam CurryAdam Curry

he'll do whatever they tell him to who's they? Oh, the military industrial complex, of course. Raytheon, Boeing, whoever. Of course. He'll just do whatever. Okay,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

so he's just bullshit.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

He's always been bullcrap. Always. He's been he. He locked down the whole population during COVID No, he's not. He is not seen as any kind of strong personality. He's wimpy slimpar wristed weird. I mean, he rides his bike to work. Okay, how Dutch have you? And he's a made Maven. Maven. Which boy bounces along No. He'll do whatever is popular whatever whatever he's being told to do. So this just take it from me. This guy is not a strong leader in NATO

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

interests Interesting. Yeah, well your analysis is probably is better than anything you're gonna hear elsewhere. So there you have

Adam CurryAdam Curry

it. The troll room has some other words for him. Yes, you're correct that too. And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage saying the morning to you the man who put the sea in the Cheeto dust say hello to my friend on the other end the one and only Mr. Jobs

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

in the morning, you Mr. Adam curry in the morning all the cheese does blitz on the ground feed near subs in the one Diems and nights out there in the morning

Adam CurryAdam Curry

to the trolls and the troll room. Let me count we did better than Father's Day because we had a low low troll count 1618 On the last the last Sunday we have 1863 So we're back up a little bit didn't do much for the donations just the sheer number of donations the actual the number the the amount of donation just low. I mean, people are it's summer I guess we've hit the summer people are too hot, too hot, they're melting. They can't do anything else. You throw out a double A

double sad puppy to no avail. And what are you going to do next? You just gonna just gonna kill a seal a baby seal.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

You're gonna kill a seal the little baby seal just

Adam CurryAdam Curry

club it to death as horrible. And I need to apologize. Because somehow completely forgot to thank the artists for episode 1669 Because you know as a value for value podcast. There's many ways that people can help us and of course we appreciate our our artists in to an incredible degree because they're always they're creating stuff on the fly. And it was time to kneel of all people for me to forget Taunton Neil, who did the Father's Day art, which was a nice little piece, it was

a can. And it was the no Adyen dad beer. It was a little little small, but we kind of went with it for this for the best dad in the universe. Curry Dvorak and then really small letters. If you blew it up, it says, What's that in your mouth? I think that kind of clinched it for us. Sick as we are. Like, yeah, that's a good joke.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Yeah, it was cute. Yeah.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

For the last episode 1670 Yeah, we brought in. I mean, I'm, I'm not always you were actually on the Father's Day episode. You were kind of vying for this cheesecake lady, which I protested. I'm like, Yeah, you

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

hate women. No, I

Adam CurryAdam Curry

don't. Like why does Father's Day have to mean that cheese cake lady. That's I mean, some fathers are not likes. That's what you like. That's not what

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I just like to piece I thought it was good and you hate comic strip blogger.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Well, no I don't. I've been friends with him longer than I've been friends with you same type of friendship. Know for 16 seven he titled The Maloney Francisco Scaramanga nailed it with the and this was a cheesecake but it had cheap fakes on her t shirt. It had double entendre. It had a lot going for it and and it was just perfect. Perfect. Wouldn't you say?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I liked it. Yeah. We had that. There was another one that we were arguing about. The Father's Day one is from the previous show, or when I guess it was that show. Cheap

Adam CurryAdam Curry

fakes. Oh, the Darren O'Neill is that that we were looking at Darren O'Neal's. Cheap fakes 33 cents, which had to Zareen zerene behind the lemonade stand. Oh, yes.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I liked this piece because I do is a throwback to as a peanuts. Reference, of course with the free advice booth through the Lucy was back. Would you be back there with Charlie Brown? Yeah. I liked it. The scar manga pieces it probably better in many ways. But the Darren O'Neill piece was good and you criticize it because you said Darren O'Neal's always got this does throw away stuff

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I said Darren no deal. Oh no, I didn't criticize it. I said the cheap fakes was better. You didn't want to choose it because you hate scare manga. That's what was going on. You like that guy? He's an aihole. I remember No,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I never said that. I would say Oh, but you did remind me that scared of manga did turn on the show you in particular he's a turncoat. He turned on the show so they were a bunch of jerks. Repair reason and and that that got me to quit the entire that dead social network. They said

Adam CurryAdam Curry

the website just call it the website.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

And that was the end of that. So there was some there was some thought there man, you know, Darren O'Neal pick because

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Dan O'Neill listening want to be picked? He just wants us to talk about him. Yes, I

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think you're right. I think he's a what is it called when your attention? Attention whore?

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There you go. That's it. Well, I'll disc jockeys are, I guess to a degree,

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I think you're right.

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It's all caps that you got to pay that off, man. Let's

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formula is this we go out we get people in the mouth

Adam CurryAdam Curry

discovered I can find this job while applying but as that's you

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

know, so did you see Andrew Cuomo on Bill Maher? No,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

no, I did not.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I sitting here I dodged the bullet. Clearly you dodged the bullet. So he's sitting there next to kissing girl. I don't know why they go the cry baby The Cry Baby Cry Baby. And and they do something they were bumo. Obviously he's decided to throw the Democratic Party under the bus. And I think is worth playing. It says oh, it's got nothing to do with any more clips. But this was to me a it's been it was posted quite a bit. I just took the regular posting of it and play it here. The

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trial in New York. The one he got convicted for was the greatest fundraising bonanza. Yes, he is. Now he was blagging behind Biden. And now he's pulled quite a bit ahead. That trial was the greatest reason people to send their checks for 510 25, whatever, dollars to Donald Trump. So I was always winning on the one in New York, the hush money trial, I don't think they should have brought that one. It was just always gonna look like a sex case. And people were always

just going to look at it that way. So

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in that case, the Attorney General's case in New York, frankly, should have never been brought. And if his name was not Donald Trump, and if he wasn't running for president, from the former Ag in New York, I'm telling you that case would have never been brought. And that's what is offensive to people. And it should be because if there's anything left it's belief in the justice system.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Why is he doing that?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I wonder myself. I saw it was like he threw the whole party under the bus. I think it's because he never got the support. He expected to stay as governor. And he's worked. He's worked. And now he's a critic. So either that as part of our part of the giant scheme to get make sure Trump gets in well, I'm thinking

Adam CurryAdam Curry

that but if you look at our the official lawyer of the show, Rob, he always sends me an updated schedule of all of the lawsuits that Trump is involved in. How many can you name?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I can only name three or four. Yeah, there's

Adam CurryAdam Curry

like nine. Yeah. So we have the hush money case in New York. Right. Where that's, I guess we're still waiting sentencing. We have the civil fraud. The New York Trump and others falsely inflated property values to obtain loans. We have

the Dominion. Case Dominion claims it was defamed when Trump's campaign allegedly made false accusations that a Dominion executive help rig the 2020 election that's in Colorado, Georgia state criminal trial Trump and 13 others allegedly meddled in Georgia's 2020 presidential election. That's the funny Willis case. January 6. Immunity this is in

the DC district. Of course, the DC Circuit perhaps the SCOTUS federal criminal, Trump allegedly incited an insurrection on January 6, which allegedly had the effect of obstructing official government proceedings and defrauded the United States and other things. That's Jack Smith, then we have what I think is interesting. This is not necessarily

involving Trump, but this is also in DC. There's a separate January 6 Defendant, Joseph Fisher, who was charged with assault and he's arguing that DOJ can't use Sarbanes Oxley to prosecute him, which is phenomenal that somehow they're they're trying to convict him of violating Sarbanes Oxley, which

I'm not quite sure how that works. South. Then we have the Southern District, Florida, the classified documents mishandling Michigan, Michigan, he filed charges against 15 Republican electors for allegedly trying to overturn the 2020 election. Trump is not amongst the 15. But of course it has to do with him, Arizona. That's the 18 Republicans Giuliani Mark Meadows. We have the jean Carroll defamation cases, two of them. I mean, this is it's, it's amazing.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

What they've done all after he said he's gonna run for president. Yes. That's what that's what makes everyone came after he made the you know, yeah, some within three days. That's

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what makes it so cool.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Yes, well, the only thing I think they accomplish what they wanted, I don't think these cases are gonna go anywhere now, because the idea was to get him convicted of something. And it's been discussed and discussed, and they say that people on the inside that are at the, at the hideout where Biden's being prepped and jacked

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up, it's called Camp Camp David, Camp

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David, you but it's in the basement is so he feels comfortable. And so the idea is he's going to throw out the term convicted felon, which is all they really wanted to get out of this all these cases, somebody because the rest of these have been put off now that these cases are not going to come to fruition. But they got what they wanted, which is

convicted felon before the sentencing. And before all this, anything that can reverse the decision can go into play because this is next Thursday, you're going to have the debate, and Biden is going to drop the convicted felon bomb at the debate,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Trump will be ready for that.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Yeah, well, interesting to see what what what ready means that regard? I don't know. They'll be ready. But what you're gonna say

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I predict huge numbers on that CNN broadcast. And that is going to break all records. And it's it's kind of interesting, because it's in a way it's a throwback to the 60s. I think the way they're running it is very similar to the Kennedy Nixon debate, you know, just a studio no audience to answer question, then you answer the question very, quote unquote, civilized.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Yeah. Right. So, so I was looking into Jake Tapper's background spook when you because he's going to be one of the two hosts him and Dana Bash. Dana

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Bash was literally married to a spook.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Yeah, yes, exactly. So if you if you read, I think it's an even in his Wikipedia. Jake Tapper takes credit. Do you know the first CNN debate with Hillary and Trump and Trump back in 2016 2015 2016? Era? There was one of the debates was at CNN. Yeah. And because whoever was really interested in these in this debate

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where they gave Hillary the the questions, Donna Brazil yet

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

right. The dawn of Brazil gave her the credit, but the point is, is that it got the highest rating CNN ever got. Yeah. And they credited because of the presence of Jake Tapper. Really? Yeah.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Well, I if I I recall correctly one of our producers was in catering and catered the assistant CIA CIA directors birthday if something like It was either that or FBI and Jake Tapper was there just working the room. Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. That's sources say you know, sources. So

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

this will be a huge blockbuster even though ABC is gonna also carry it. But it'll be big numbers for CNN, even though it's going to be watered down because ABC is also going to do a simulcast. I don't know how they got that to happen. But you know, they happened and then you'll be stuck because a chopper Yeah, everyone wants to see him.

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Wow. tappers, the man. He's the man of the hour. He's the man about town. There's two incidents with Southwest that I just need to handle for a second here.

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The FAA is investigating another concerning incident on a Southwest Airlines flight after a plane appear to come dangerously close to homes near Oklahoma City. For some reason, they blew through and assigned altitude and continued and get very close to the ground.

The Boeing 737 Which took off from Las Vegas Tuesday night was descending into Oklahoma City's airport just after midnight, when it dropped as low as 525 feet over the city of Yukon passing just over a high school a low altitude alarm alerted air traffic control which contacted the cockpit air traffic controller in the tower saved the day by telling them check your altitude.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

This is what I find so interest this couple of things in this report and was very similar everywhere. So the the flight goes to low clearly because they're still on their approach. And there they are low. And the tower says hey, we got a low altitude warning you guys okay? He didn't say check your altimeter? No, he didn't say they just you guys. Okay, everything all right, to which they replied, Yeah, we're good. And then they they increase their altitude.

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The air traffic controller in the tower, save the day by telling them check your altitude, the plane landed safely. But local residents flooded social media saying they thought the plane was going to hit their homes. It was night it was late. Perhaps the crew was tired. They were descending over the prairie. So there was no lights or no visual reference. It was essentially descending over a black hole. But this

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I don't know who this Jumoke is who's reporting on this. But you're looking at your altimeter you're looking at at the height of your aircraft, you're not looking out into the black hole. Where are we? I could use anything, Bob, I don't know. You see. I mean, the only thing I can imagine happened here is they didn't set their their pressure altitude known as the Q and H which gives you the correct altitude reading based upon the barometric pressure. Maybe that happened. Or maybe

they're just really inexperienced. Either way this should not have happened. But at the EI baby, that's possible. And, and here's this kind of goes into the neck of the next story, which is the part of this report for you know, whenever I fly, when I fly the Cirrus from the flight school I if I go to Dallas with Tina, who is not doesn't really love flying in this little plane. But I always take the instructor because I'm

going to be 60 in September. I'm not I'm not fast, I don't fly enough that I can especially Dallas area where there's four airports is very busy. And if you're on the radio you go then the next thing the air traffic control does, Okay, you go fly out 20 minutes that way, we'll call you back later when you think you're ready to come in. So, but these are 25 to 28 year olds, and I fly what maybe twice a year, maybe three times a year

to go somewhere. It's always a new instructor because they are getting they're getting zapped up right away straight into the

airlines. A lot of them female and they're low hours they've got him 700 to maybe 1000 hours so they get another 500 Then you can fly tech according to law you can fly on you know on a jet on a big one of the passenger jet but they really don't have just all the experience and whatever happened with the pilots you know I think a lot of them died laden retired lot of got out of the business does not necessarily I don't know about Dei, but there's not a lot of experiential airmen and air

women who are in the business now and this is what we're seeing. They were

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given a clearance for a visual approach. So they were looking out at the lights of Oklahoma City looking for the airport, and for some reason they missed that assigned altitude perhaps was distraction in the cockpit earlier this week. It was revealed to southwest Lean from Hawaii came within just 400 feet of slamming into the ocean back in April, a memo saying a newer first officer accidentally pushed forward the control column.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

This is unbelievable to me, because they were executing a go around, it was horrible weather, there was a lot of torrential rain, a lot of airplanes, we're doing go round, which is hey, I don't feel good. I don't think we should land. Let's just Let's go around. We'll try it again. And so what you do then is you view push the throttle forward, you pull back on the control column, eventually you want to put the

put the flaps back in the right position. why someone would push forward on the column that person should not be in the cockpit. I don't know what happened there. All I know is that the real good pilots who are from Navy and Air Force they're not going to airlines that have Boeing anymore. They're all going to Airbus outfits, particularly FedEx and anything else that that doesn't have passengers and has Airbus they don't want to fly Boeing and Southwest is all Boeing so

that's my report. Well, that stinks. It does stink it's not it's not it's not there

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

are see five pilots you think it by anything new but they don't

Adam CurryAdam Curry

want to fly that they don't want to fly southwest.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I guess not. No.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

It's pride month, John. Time to make fun.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Oh, yes, I've been I only had my one opportunity for this. I guess you must have a few.

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I do. Yes. I got some Chicago local news. The University of Illinois has been has received an award for their let me see what is it the LGBTQ plus health care equality high performer and boy, the ladies on the show we're all Jide it's a two parter.

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His pride month the University of Illinois Hospital and Clinics have a lot to celebrate who I have has been recognized as an LGBTQ plus health care equality leader for the ninth year in a row. That means they are going beyond the basics when it comes to adopting policies and practices in queer care. Dr. Mimi arquilla Queer

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care, here it is John does the new one queer care we have no health care, no queer care comes

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to adopting policies and practices in queer care. Dr. Muni, Aquila and Carl Johnson, join us now with more. Thank you so much for being here. Thanks for having us. Thank you. Yeah. So Doctor, tell us what this designation really means.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Doctor, what is queer care? Can we start there?

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Okay, so it means that our health care facility was evaluated in four areas. And those areas being the programs and services we provide for LGBTQ plus people, the our what our foundational practices are, in terms of organization, in terms of our involvement with the community, and also in terms of our employee benefits and services. And so we provide services in all four of those areas, and we do it, we feel

very well. And that is how we get that designation is because we were able to achieve high status, high status high standards in those areas. And it's so important to promote inclusive care. What does that mean, tell all of our viewers Yeah, so I think when

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underserved by the way, this this clearly woman who you're hearing female voice is dressed and looks like a dude,

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what does that mean? Tell all of our viewers Yeah, so I think when understanding inclusive care, you first have to kind of understand that not everyone has the same experience in healthcare. And that can be for a lot of reasons. It can be because of gender, sexual orientation, race, insurance, status, lots of different things. And with Inclusive care, the goal is to provide high quality care, to everyone. And to do that you really have to break down barriers and meet the

community where it's at and really address those needs. So

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I was about to throw this clip away. I'm like this. They said absolutely nothing other than we excel at queer care, which is just, it's just offensive. What is queer care? I mean, that's not even a gender. But now Now we have queer care. And I would have tossed it out had I not gotten a complete explanation of what they really won the award for in this second clip, talk about

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some of those hesitations that people might face in going to get care where someone may not even think that this is something that other people are facing. Yeah, so there's a lot of reasons people don't like going

to the doctor. Yeah, I think in particular for LGBTQ people. It can be, you know, fearful of other situations that have happened that have been unpleasant like being called the wrong name being misgendered as you know, invasive questions that don't really have to do with what you're there for, or just having a provider who doesn't know a whole lot about

LGBTQ health care. And as someone who's not only a doctor, but like a patient and has had all of those experiences at other healthcare institutions, I completely understand why people don't want to go to the doctor and I really empathize with them. But I think it also kind of drives me to advocate for, you know, a really great healthcare experience. And, you know, similar to you i health, you know, the guiding forces

kind of treat others the way you'd want to be treated. And in doing so, you know, there's a lot of things to make people more comfortable at the doctor in the healthcare setting. All

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right here, we're getting down to it. So it's about being misgendered. And what what actually can we do to win this award and make you feel comfortable?

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And, you know, some of those things are as easy as wearing like a pronoun pen to let people know what pronouns are asking people, their name, their pronouns, using those correctly, and just creating a welcoming environment. It's about

Adam CurryAdam Curry

the pronouns. up to it, yes, it's all about wearing a pronoun pin. So people know that you're an ally, and that you care about pronouns. That's it, because this person was misgendered. Somewhere. And this one minutes, queer care. Well, but I love the wall, but your insurance status I have no, I literally have no health insurance.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

But you had some sort of Texas thing? No,

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I have. You know, we have crowd health, which is it's crowd funding. So you, you pay like 300 bucks a month. That's reasonable. And, yeah, but we were paying 1800 a month. For the two of us. That's not reasonable and deductible $16,000 Are you kidding me? Yeah, this is ridiculous.

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That's just the whole thing. So the chip

Adam CurryAdam Curry

is a complete chip. But if you go for the queer care, Oh, you don't have to have any insurance, your query will take care of, you know, maybe I might have to this seems to be some benefits.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

So I just had to change topics a little bit. I do have a clip. He says we brought up the very beginning of the show, which was what can trigger a collapse of the AI phenomenon. Yeah. And so I have this what I call the wild clip, which is a clip that addresses this a little bit it's from NPR it's about the Clear View suit. It is not really being covered very well but it's

Adam CurryAdam Curry

layer view is are those the guys that that sell all the pictures to the cops?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Yeah, facial recognition company. Yeah, that company. Yeah.

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Play. Yep. Just play soul recognition. Startup clear view AI reached a settlement and the lawsuit alleging its massive photo collection of faces, violated the subjects privacy rights. attorneys say the deal could be worth more than $50 million. To Ed Sheeran. Johnson Coleman gave preliminary approval to the agreement yesterday. But the unique agreement gives plaintiffs in the case a share of the company's potential

value, rather than a traditional payout. Clear View is not admitting fault as part of the agreement.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Okay, what makes this wow to me is that these companies have find, especially a public company decided, hey, what if we do the payout of these lawsuits in stock? I thought that was just a good idea. It

Adam CurryAdam Curry

is a good idea. Yeah, okay.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

We Oh, why do $100 million? Okay, let's issue some more

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stock after they do an offering for that they do a seconder.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I just I think it's a private it'd be a private offering. You could do it. There's all kinds of scam ish ways to do it. I

Adam CurryAdam Curry

could do a pipe.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

They could do a lot of things. But it's it's just genius. As far as I'm concerned, companies note this even for say Ford, you know, General Motors, they have a Ford during the pinto era. Oh, instead of giving people money and have some

Adam CurryAdam Curry

stock stock. That is a good idea. Well, speaking of speaking of lawsuits, or legal matters, so, you know, although there's not a lot of reporting in the US, per se, about the Saudi Arabia D dollar rising, just going to use that term, by apparently not renewing the deal to only sell their oil in US dollars making the US dollar the reserve currency. Well, I think

that we're new. We're starting to nudge them a little bit. That CBS out of the blue the CIA broadcasting system starts to bring up an old story which includes the 28 pages that were not included in the non commissioned report. Oh yeah,

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CBS News exclusive the unnerving video outside the US Capitol film two years before the 911 attacks. Good evening, I'm Nora O'Donnell and thank you for being with us. Two decades ago, the 911 Commission found that all kinda acted alone. But victims families say that is not true. pointing to this video and other evidence is proof. They are suing Saudi Arabia claiming its government provided crucial assistance to the hijackers and planners behind the September 11 attacks that killed nearly 3000

people. 60 minutes correspondent Cecilia Vega reports a voice on the video says in Arabic, I am transmitting these scenes to you from the heart of the American capitol, Washington. This video unsealed in Federal Court this week and obtained by 60 minutes was recorded in the summer of 1999. Man Behind the camera is Omar lbu. Me who the FBI says was an operative of the Saudi intelligence service with close

ties to two of the 911 hijackers. The video was filmed over several days, the UMi recorded entrances and exits of the Capitol security posts a model of the building and nearby landmarks in this portion of the video but unique points out the Washington Monument and says I will get over there and report to you in detail what is there. He also notes the airport is not far away. So

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then they bring in a whole bunch of former spooks to confirm this and this was probably related to flight 93 Richard

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Lambert is a retired FBI agent who led the initial 911 investigation in San Diego, where bu me and the two hijackers live temporarily before the attacks. He's now a consultant on the case filed by the 911 families if you've ever flown into Washington DC, one of the first things you see on the horizon is the Washington Monument. So if you know where your other targets are in terms of the Washington Monument, it helps guide you to your intended target.

Federal investigators believe the hijackers on flight 93, which crashed near Shanksville, Pennsylvania had the US Capitol as their likely target. The lawyers for the 911 families and former intelligence analysts we spoke to believe portions of the video show be Umi surveilling the capitol as part of that plan. And in the video, he references a quote plan. You said that in the plan, what plan

I was talking to what do you think he's talking about? I think he's talking to the al Qaeda planners who tasked him to take the pre operational surveillance video of the intended target. So this video is taken in late June and early July of 1999. What does that timing tell you? Well, that means it was taken within 90 days of the time when senior al Qaeda planners reached the decision that the Capitol would be a target of the 911 attacks.

That's when Osama bin Laden decided to approve Khalid Sheikh Mohammed so called planes operation. In the days after 911 British police discovered the video during a raid on Bay yummies UK apartment. They also cease by unis handwritten address book that the lawyers for the 911 families say was filled with phone numbers of numerous senior Saudi officials who were in the government at the time.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I don't believe any of this story, of course, but it that's not the point. The point is, okay, Saudi Arabia. Well, we got your number.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

We go back to the 911. situation at the time, there was a lot of discussion about suing Saudi Arabia. Yes. And our government blocked it. Yes. Because we had no no no, you can't sue them because they're our friends. And so it got blocked never happened and then this, but we all knew that there was some some information that was left out of the report and which could be anything that could create the had number of years to create this whole thing could be like you think is maybe

a fake? But yes, this is exactly right. This is a little pressure point, because if Saudi Arabia got blamed and sued by all these by the 3000 families that were harmed, they it would be a nightmare. That was the idea was to prevent that the nightmare now Okay, you guys are going to screw us out of our petro dollar deal that you agreed to either resign up or the nightmare begins. That's what this is a

Adam CurryAdam Curry

little annoying fact.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

That was good. That was good. Find. I'll give you a clip of the day. Wow.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Thank you. Unexpected I just I came across it. I'm like, hey, yeah, winter clip that.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Let me clip that. And that's what the show is all about. That's what

Adam CurryAdam Curry

it's always about. But I want to move into Israel is now just Israel versus everybody.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I do have the Gaza update from PBS. If you want to just start with that. Oh,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

yeah, we'll start with that. Hold on a second. Gauze. Gauze update

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PBS. Here we go. death toll in Gaza climbed higher today following two Israeli airstrikes on separate locations. One hit a refugee camp, and another struck an Eastern neighborhood of Gaza City. Palestinian and hospital officials said at least 39 people were killed. Israel's military said they were targeting to Hamas military sites. And in Tel Aviv tonight 1000s of people rallied to demand new elections and call for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to reach a deal to bring hostages home.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

They keep trying to get him out. He's just like, nope, nope, I'm just gonna sit here for a bar. It's

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

mostly western reporting that talks about this way. If you get it, if you get to the Middle East reporting, there's less of it. Oh, yeah. Trying to get him out. I think this is us trying to get him out? Well,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I don't think we're trying to well, maybe the Biden administration, but the whole idea here is exactly what we heard from Massey, Representative Massey, you said, these military industrial complex donors to AIPAC. They want war, they want more war. They want war, not just within Gaza. That's just that's just a starter pack. We want to go to Lebanon. It's on the west Clarke seven, and they want to get to Iran. And that's where this is headed. Here's NPR

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we have to remember the Lebanese state is extremely weak and Hezbollah was created with the help of Iran, largely to fight Israel after the Israeli invasion of Lebanon in 1982. Mr. Allah said his group is much better arm now. And as an example, he noted drone footage released this week with detailed images of potential targets in Haifa, Israel's major port city, he gloated that with all of Israel's air defenses, the drone was able to slip through them. And he said that if there were

war, Hezbollah would fight with what he said were no rules. As for reaction, Israel's Foreign Minister dismissed Israel as remarks saying that if it came to war, Hezbollah would be destroyed and Lebanon severely hit and Israel also has interests in a gas field off the coast of Lebanon. Oh, yes,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

yes. Oh, Leviathan. Leviathan right over there. Beautiful. And the BBC, of course, chimed in the

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UN chief Antonio Guterres has warned that escalating tensions on Israel's northern border could trigger a catastrophe and turn Lebanon into quote, another Gaza. All Out conflict has been threatening to erupt there since the Lebanese militant group Hezbollah began firing missiles into northern Israel following the October the seventh massacre, prompting tit for tat responses from Israel.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

It's so interesting how this how this happens, like well, you know, we're almost done there and Gaza, we've killed everybody. You know what, why don't we lob some missiles. It's our turn now. Now we're gonna do it. Israeli

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strikes into southern Lebanon have displaced more than 90,000 people on the Lebanese side of the border. But some have stayed, saying it's better to die at home with dignity than be driven out of their land like the Palestinians. Fear of all out war extends as far as the capital of Beirut, where some say they keep suitcases packed and passports ready. In case full scale war breaks out. Hezbollah is a well trained,

well armed military, backed by Iran, Iraq. Its leader Hassan Nasrallah has threatened to invade Israel if full scale war breaks out and says nowhere in the country will be spared. But Israel has been talking up its readiness to take them on. tough talk is part of both sides strategy of deterrence. But the line between deterrence and decision on a wall is becoming harder to see. But the longer this conflict goes on, the more it turns into playing with fire.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I mean, war is such a great business. I mean, how's Raytheon stock? Is that doing anything that doing anything? I mean? Take a look at the year to date. Oh, yeah. He was at $85 in January, it's 105. Now Beautiful, beautiful. Raytheon stock up. That's great. You know, then you remember all my Iranian friends always say oh, no, no, no, they are. They're America and Iran. They're there. They play these games together. And then when we have Russia doing deals with North Korea.

You can't make this up. South

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Korea has condemned the defense pact that North Korea signed with Russia. Earlier this week. The foreign ministry called it a threat to peace and stability on the Korean peninsula. So someone Russia's ambassador to the Foreign Ministry to discuss its concerns. While the details of the military pact are still murky, South Korea is worried

that it could encourage North Korean aggression. So all announced in response that it was considering sending weapons to Ukraine to support its defense against Russia.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Are you kidding me? So NASA now we have North Korea and South Korea representing Russia and Ukraine. Are you kidding me? Frank,

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Vladimir Putin wants you all that supporting Ukraine would be a very big mistake. I was still interpreting that warning. Well, I think solar is still interpreting that warning. One of the articles of this agreement suggested that each country North Korea and Russia would come to each other's aid with all means, if they were in a state of war, the Korean War ended with an armistice not a peace treaty. So a state of war arguably exists now on the Korean peninsula.

Pawleys? This is just sick. It's unbelievable.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Just pushing it right in our face. Oh, look, we'll make some more war stuff over here. Now spend more on war.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

In the middle is a good way to waste money. Yeah, we

Adam CurryAdam Curry

got people with Trank just upside down in the streets. bent over

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

to I have my to Ukraine, Ukraine. I'm sorry. To hit right Ukraine. I got a couple of Ukraine updates one from NPR and contrasting with one from PBS.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Okay. I think

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

they're both but they're both short. But let's see how they do. Let's start with NPR. Russia

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launched a major attack of guided bombs on heart Kyiv Ukraine's second biggest city overnight, killing at least three people and injuring more than a dozen witnesses. A four explosions were heard around the city. And Moscow also targeted Ukraine's power grid for the eighth time in the past three months. Ukraine's Air Force as its defense systems shot down 12 of the 16 missiles and all 13 drones launched by Russia.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Ma'am, Eric Schmidt's make an out on this deal. Remember, he was doing all the drones in Ukraine?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

He's making I don't know. I don't remember that. Yeah, yeah. We had a

Adam CurryAdam Curry

whole he had a whole sit down with Fareed Zakaria and he's like go drones gonna be drones and he was right. It's all drones everyone's drones

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

oh actually the guided bombs are the more they it's interesting that NPR mentioned the guided bombs which is really what the Russians are. Did know when you stop these things because they're coming down at the speed of gravity right the glider buzzing around. I find it interesting at PBS I don't believe in this clip even mentions the guided bombs. Ukrainian

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president Volodymyr Zelensky, said Russia has launched more than 2400 guided missiles and Ukrainian targets this month alone. His remarks followed a deadly day of attacks that killed three people and injured dozens more in Hartke. That's Ukraine's second largest city. So Alinsky said Ukraine needs more help from Western allies.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

So I got some useful news. From Africa news, it's not about Africa. This is the only place I could find this, where Putin is reaching out to NATO.

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During a briefing with graduate military and law enforcement schools in Moscow. Russian President Vladimir Putin expressed his willingness to engage in discussions regarding

security matters with NATO member countries. Recently at a meeting with the leadership of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, I outlined our vision on the work to create people and in divisible security in Eurasia, we are ready for a broad international discussion of these key vital issues, both with our colleagues in the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, the CIS, the Eurasian Economic Community, BRICS and other international associations, and NATO states

among others, naturally, by the time when they are ready for this, in addition, Putin pledged to enhance the nuclear capabilities of his nation and equip the military with a state of weaponry. So

Adam CurryAdam Curry

he's wants to talk but in the meantime, ramp up the nukes. They don't want to talk. No, of course they don't want to talk to himself. They never talk about peace ever, ever.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I have no money in it. Peace

Adam CurryAdam Curry

is not profitable. I have a little bit some updates on the bird flu, which has gone kind of quiet during this week as I noticed this during this week of of the debate. At first we have Larkin soon to be de malarkey. And she provides a boots on the ground. She says I'm a third generation farmer in California and I have so much farming information to share with you guys. It is our busy season, but I'll try to send more info soon. Although the war on chickens jingle is one of the

best, I believe it is. I believe it is a war on protein, beef, dairy and chicken and just farmers in general. Notice, you don't hear much about pork. This is true. Of course, the Chinese own the pork industry in the US smithfield foods. We don't hear much about pork. It's only chicken, beef dairy, not about pork.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

It's interesting, I think. Yes. And when you add the pork prices are extremely low right now.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Hmm. Yeah. The summer of pork is what we talked about.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Chinese pork talked about this summer of pork. We

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I literally said the summer of pork on the show. Yeah. All right. Don't make me look it up. Now. I

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

want you to look it up.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

And I reached out to my friends who did very well in the testing business during COVID. Your buddies? Yeah. And I said, What are you hearing about the bird flu? Here's what came back. The CDC made a call out last week to see li a certified laboratories, asking them to create rapid tests for bird flu, just like they did when COVID started and a surplus of rapid tests popped up on the market. I'll keep you posted. So

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Oh, that'd be more free tests. Yeah. Load up. We

Adam CurryAdam Curry

know it's a bonanza. We know it's a bonanza.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Yeah, well, I get to test for free but somebody's paying for him.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Exact taxpayer US government. Yes, the vape wars and the vape wars are back on I see you have to vape walk vapour clips. I'd

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

like to start with pathetic. Oh, good.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Let's start with those.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Let's start with this is about trying to get kids off of these things. And this is considered a crisis. So let's go to teen vape crisis is good stuff. One

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of my friends was so addicted, she would say things like, I'll just die at 20 Whatever. 2.1 million teens vaped and 2023. A third of whom were just in middle school.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

What? Who's doing this reporting? What outfit?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I believe this is NPR

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at a Senate hearing Wednesday, lawmakers asked the FDA why it's failing to tackle the problems. This is a shelf full of potentially dangerous substances in a store in the shadow of the FDA building. I'm just trying to figure out if any of this is illegal or how in the hill it's legal. Senator Tom Tillis points to flavors such as strawberry dragon fruit, watermelon, even watermelon bubblegum the FDA is director of tobacco products Brian King never directly answered.

We do have a pre market paradigm for reviewing applications and the sheer volume of that app. The volume of those applications and the volume of the market requires us to prioritize our enforcement efforts. The president of the Campaign for Tobacco Free Kids, Yolanda Richardson answered in his place, FDA failed to assert its regulatory authority over E cigarettes until a substantial e cigarette market had already formed, and E cigarettes had already become the most popular tobacco product

among youth. FDA then further delay e cigarette popularity exploded in the mid 2000s. When they entered the market, the US market was valued at $28 billion in 2023 and is expected to grow at a compound annual rate of 30.6%. From 2023 to 2030. Only 23 e cigarette brands are authorized for sale in the US but over 6000 brands are on the market.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

What is this is real. This is actually quite good. Because I know what this is about. What is interesting is they keep saying e cigarette and tobacco product vape is not a tobacco product. There's no tobacco in it. Nicotine Yes. But that's not a tobacco this was the whole problem is that kids were vaping and they weren't smoking so the MSA the master states agreement that you know, the tax money was going down, down down because these kids are not on tobacco. Now all of a

sudden, vape is an e cigarette. And it's a tobacco product. This is the new, this is the new thing they're doing. This is a big switcheroo. Well,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

they've done a good job of it. You know, the funny thing is I had listened to and recorded and edited these reports. I, I don't see anybody using vapes at all and in the Bay Area.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

While you're about to, and I'll tell you why. But I want to hear okay, well, that's

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up to you can tell me why over a quarter of youth e cigarette users use the products every day. One of the primary reasons as you have heard, children are attracted to E cigarettes is the sweet fruit candy and mint flavors. They come in Dr. Susan Wally helps people get off nicotine products. She says it's very difficult to get children to quit because of the high nicotine volume and vapes. The adolescent brain is more susceptible to nicotine

addiction. So symptoms of dependence can appear in days to weeks. A first experimentation she says for most teens usage is consistent, frequent and dependent such as the case with high schooler Josie Shapiro. The first flavor I tried was blueberry ice. But I tried pretty much every flavor my friends had. I thought I was just enjoying the flavors. But soon my 14 year old brain crave the nicotine more and more Shapiro is

still addicted. She says vaping is affecting her mood, her ability to breathe, her skin and her social life. I've tried to quit vaping over and over again. But it's really really hard. Everything in my life is a trigger, hanging out with friends driving my car, going to the bathroom going into

the convenience store. All of it makes me want to vape the FDA and Department of Justice have pledged further cooperation and battling teen vaping they're forming a task force with several other agencies, including the Postal Service. Yes.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Before you go on with your analysis. I don't know if you notice this, but she said she's a 14 year older as her 14 year old brain. Yeah, she's reading from a script. And then she said she was driving a car.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Isn't that interesting?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

How does that work? How does it for you know as she's stolen, it steals cars have a license if she's 14 joyriding we used to do that. There's something about this report that that kind of bothered me. All right. So

Adam CurryAdam Curry

we have to go back and I know we have vape experts out there who will help me if I go astray and please feel free to email me because this I'm a vapor but it's not an e cigarette okay, it's a big battery and I wind the coil and I've got you know pure cotton not from China. So first we had jewel this is really what it was the jewel e cigarette the vape which was you know, you put in a little thing in there a little cartridge and right Reynolds bought it or who was it who owns

Marlboro. So Philip Morris Philip Morris, I guess they bought it, they bought it they tanked the company blew the company up. What's happened now is all these companies that wanted to have specially these flavors, they're all out of business because the FDA said you can only get something on the market if you pay to have every single flavor and every nicotine level tested at about a million bucks per flavor per nicotine level. So all these companies went out of business

vaping is pretty much is dead, except for the Chinese. That's why the Postal Service was involved in that report. The Chinese are flooding the market with absolute crap because all these flavors what who knows what they're putting in that? But that's not what this is about. This is about bringing back jewel. I think one or two shows ago we had the FDA going

oh yeah, no jewel. Yeah, we're gonna approve you now. And right on cue after they took menthol cigarettes out menthol cigarettes who smokes menthol cigarettes, black America, smoke slit lamp menthol cigarettes, let's bring them back in people.

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The FDA has approved the sale of the first menthol e cigarettes. For adults, the authorization does not mean vaping is safe, but health officials say it can be a little bit less harmful. As an alternative to regular cigarettes. The move already is getting pushed back from anti smoking groups who argue it's only going to fuel the youth vaping epidemic further.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

And why do they want all this? This is because of Senate Bill 2929 to amend Internal Revenue Code of 1986 provide tax rate parity among all tobacco products and for other purposes. And this is also known as the What is this called? The Tobacco Tax Equity Act cuts. And what do they insert into the tax code? Nicotine taxable nicotine? Remember, it's not a tobacco product. So now Oh, yeah, this is how we do it. View on do you want to do something bad kids no

problem as long as we can tax it. So now they're going to tax the vapes. And now we make it legal again. We just have to get the Chinese stuff off of the market. It's so insidious, they ruined a burgeoning industry. Almost got Trump in on the deal. If you remember that Melania saying, Oh, no, this vaping is bad. And then Trump was like, yeah, and then he spun on a dime, and then dropped out of that whole thing. Because this was the scam they were pulling. They ruined all competition,

gave it to the big tobacco guys. And now they make it legal again, with their approved tobacco products, which is not tobacco, it's nicotine, and it's taxed. It's a beautiful scam.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

It's excellent.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I have to say, if you're gonna do it, do it well. But don't pretend like you have these little

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

screens, you can pretend all you want doesn't matter. Nobody cares.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I care. But you're the only one. I'm not the only I'm not the only vapor.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

No, I'm saying you're the only one who cares about the scam? Oh, well, you

Adam CurryAdam Curry

because I'm not in on it.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Which, by the way, is a very interesting cake. I'm not going to expose the scams I'm not involved in.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I just have one one more clip I wanted to play about the anti Defamation League because this just cracks me up. This is This is too funny. It's from morning, Joe. So it's like everyone's going crazy. What side are we supposed to be on? We had to be on the on the Jews side on the Arab side, the Hamas side, the Hezbollah side, we're confused. Let's go to Wikipedia, one of

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the world's most popular information websites, has declared the anti Defamation League as an unreliable source. The editors at Wikipedia now say that the top Jewish civil rights group and one of the world's preeminent authorities on anti Jewish hate is not a reliable source for information about the ISRAEL PALESTINE conflict and anti semitism. They're claiming that because it's you guys are both in their words, advocacy and a resource organization. So therefore, the advocacy, taints

the research, what do you make? I mean, look, our processes are rigorous. Our methodologies are sound, they stand up to scrutiny. Everything is transparent, done very above the board. We have a team of PhDs who does work, anti semitism is up, acts of harassment, vandalism, and violent violence are up. And if you don't have the leading organization in the world, tracking anti semitism in our data on Wikipedia, anti

semitism will continue to increase. I mean, we work with policymakers, we work with journalists, we work with elected officials, law enforcement to shed a light on this,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I just love that they're taking wiki pedia seriously.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Yeah, that's pathetic. But there's also an ill logic. And what he said in the old logic is that if we're not doing our jobs and antiSemitism will increase, well, you're doing your jobs and it's increasing anyway. So what good are you

Adam CurryAdam Curry

just love the the editors or Wikipedia determined

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

that Wikipedia has always been woke, and it's got all kinds of issues. It's completely wrong about half a dozen things that these stays with it. A bunch

Adam CurryAdam Curry

of spooks running it is hilarious, I think is great. Oh, by the way, sir Jake, sent me a note. We were talking about Taco Tuesday on the on the Eisenhower was the Eisenhower,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

which says, oh, yeah, the USS Eisenhower

Adam CurryAdam Curry

versus Eisenhower. And I was like, Oh, what's this with Taco Tuesday? Well, I got slapped as an evil supply officer who has been in charge of galleys on ships. Hiking, confirm that Taco Tuesday is a huge hit of Sailor favorite, and something we simply can't do without if Taco Tuesdays went away. It would be a morale Crusher. Good to know.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I doubt it's good to know I

Adam CurryAdam Curry

take it from Sir Jake. And he uses he knows what's up. Well,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

if he before he take our final break, I do have a kind of a second half a show couple of clips. You

Adam CurryAdam Curry

know, well, let me just throw the Theramin in. All right now we're entering second half of show you've taken over my gig. Let's find

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

out nobody else is doing it. No source. So this is a podcast called Forbidden news that has gotten a lot of attention on the on the Twitter and some other social networks and it's just a couple of blowhards. This guy Oh loony or Loony, whatever his name is British guys, and they're talking about the UN troops are coming in to take over everything. Oh, yeah,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

this is always good. Yeah, the blue helmets are coming. Yeah.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

And they're gonna come in, and they come in, in United States too. But this is the British version. It's the same kind of story that we get here. But this is a bunch of Brits talking back and forth about it. And to listen to this insanity is just beyond me. So this UN soldiers on Forbidden news,

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you know, we talked about a lot of things to do with COVID, and what your experiences were with all of that, but you've also been speaking out about something else that seems to be growing exponentially every day. And that is the mass illegal immigration that's going on in England, in Wales, in Scotland, and over in Ireland as well. I mean, it is quite literally, off the charts and a lot of people. A lot of people say, Look, this isn't normal. There's something not right.

This isn't just refugees coming in. These aren't people fleeing from some kind of war zone. These are predominantly men, aged between 25 and 35. Young fighting age men as my old boss, Nigel Farage once referred to them, and I think he's right. John, what do you think's going on here, rather, so I can tell you these are un soldiers and they will be deployed by the who, when they announced the next pandemic

lockdown. That's what's going to happen. They've been trained by British soldiers have been trained by the Black Watch regiment. They were trained in them in Antalya in Turkey, and in the east of Ukraine. They're predominantly down to Sergeant ranks there then shipped to France. They all signed the Official Secrets Act. Then they're ferried over and the idea of them being ferried over is they're lost at sea. So they have to be under international law saved from being lost at sea

and that's why they take the route they do. The boats are housed in a home office compound. And then they're shipped back to France on to British Hall his firm lorries and I could supply you the details of the reg numbers to play an unsigned written lorries, the pallets, the outboard motors are strapped on pallets, they go on one lorry, the boats go on to the other lorry, and they're sent back to France for reuse. I've got 11 gigabytes of footage. There's a

guy down there ex military. He's been using drones and surveillance on them for a long time.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

What made you listen to this? I

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

got into a back and forth is one of our producers.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

So it's one of the I love these emails. Like, this is great. You got to listen to this. You got to watch this three hour rumble video. Yes,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

always rumble

Adam CurryAdam Curry

and you did it.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I did. So

Adam CurryAdam Curry

age men, there it is, again, military age, man. Yeah. Same trope. Yeah, this is

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

it. So total trope, that people that I have the guts to, to make these kinds of, you know, they leave one country and go to another one way or another. They tends to be people in a certain age group, because you're not going to find 90 year old man or kids or anything in between. So it's military age men. And so but the rationale, this is what I have these clips, it's the rationale and the delusion that these guys Express, and I hear it from from our producers that get into this

too. It's delusional to imagine that any of these you know this, I have clips I have. There's a guy who has been taking movies, I got a million hours of it. It was

Adam CurryAdam Curry

the door he was on Jimmy Dore, it must be real. Yes,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

exactly. And so I so I have the and I consider the second half of show nuttiness. Let's go into part two.

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Just Just to recap, you've got you've got evidence that these boats that are coming in, they're only doing that big, so to sort of to meet some kind of or pass through underneath some kind of radar in terms of legislation. If you're lost at sea, they're obliged to save you. And that's the idea of them coming over in small rubber boats. Is they lost

at sea. That's, that's the maritime law. Yes. So you're saying that these are not normal, illegal moves, if you think about it logically, and kind of based on common sense, if you were fleeing war and tyranny, I don't know about you, but I would certainly take my wife and children with me their most precious, they're my prized asset. You know, they're everything to me. If you're going to war, you go to war with

the lads. And that's these young men are coming over, they going to be deployed, they will be deployed, and people will see then, you know, and I don't doubt there will still be some Muppets that will stand on their doorsteps, bag and pots and pans. Do you know, thanking these young men for helping us you know, because As initially there'll be deployed in what's

perceived or conveyed as a humanitarian role. But I'm going to tell you something, I nearly fell off my chair when I interviewed this young woman, his name is Nigel McConnell. He's an Irish political candidate. And I had an interview with him a couple of years ago. And he was telling me, and I'd been aware of this, but he was telling me that these illegal migrants are being recruited for police, that

they're illegal, right? But they're going to be given the the position of police officers in Ireland, to face out of people and to vote as well.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

To vote. Oh, my goodness. You know, if you send me one of these links, or it's like a corporate report, and I don't reply to you as corporate report, it's because we have been doing this for 17 years. I mean, I even got someone the other day, you clearly aren't familiar with the cue strategy.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I mean, that's, that's still not a brown. Is it? You?

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Oh, yeah. And there was, um, there was because I was talking about Trump, like, you know, he hired all these horrible people. He's good at firing, but he's not good at hiring. No, no, no, you'd understand. That's the cue strategy. Keep your enemies even closer. Oh, okay. Please, this is JFK Jr. is going to be his vice presidential. If JFK Jr. is his vice presidential pick, and JFK Jr. comes back from the dead. I will eat my boot.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Well, that's a that's a bet you. That's yeah, you can make these kinds of assertions because you're the chances are zero in hell

Adam CurryAdam Curry

and Fauci is Mama's Mother Teresa. I mean, it's crazy.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I liked that one. Yeah. Just

Adam CurryAdam Curry

look at her face. And look. Okay, so here's where it is the same blue and white colors from Epstein's islands. Uh huh.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

So here we go with the part three and this the end on

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to vote. That's what nearly made me fell off my chair. Because he said they just have to be proved that they've been living there in any capacity can be a tent for the last six months. Yes. And they will then be allowed to stand in the elections were elected. Yes, yes. And your legal migrants do you want people fine facilitating that? You know what happened to Shin Fein one time Shin fit a lot of people in America who they still don't haven't woken up to this yet. Yeah. One time Shin Fein

was seen as the political arm of the IRA. Yes, they were fighting for Irish Republic ism, or whatever. They were fighting for Ireland. And now look, Ireland. Now let's destroy an island.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

It goes on. Yeah,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I can imagine. Well, you're very brave. You're very brave to have sat through all that. A podcast. I know. I have my hopes still high on podcast, but especially Do you know that? Have you been following just as the last little bit here that it's, you know, quote unquote, Soros. I'm not even sure who

that is anymore. But the Soros organization has been getting all kinds of waivers from the FCC to buy Odyssey the Odyssey is probably kind of next to I heart one of the biggest radio conglomerates and they got everybody on there like Oh, Kennedy and Mark Levine and all these guys and so everyone's like oh, Soros is he's going to take or he's going to brew is going to get rid of of conservative voices. Do you not been following them?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

No, I have not even heard any of this until you right now.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Oh, yeah. No, it's It's him. FCC waivers boost Soros bid to further silence the right with Odyssey takeover. And so Odyssey has a B flat so they already put forward they were already shareholder. Video The Odyssey filed for bankruptcy and so they put $400 million in the Soros organization. Weekly the network reaches 165 million listeners. Conservative hosts including Sean Hannity, Dana lash lash, lash lash, loose

lash, Mark Levin, blush, Glenn Beck, and Erik Erikson. So the thinking here is that he's going to take them all off the air and put on some lefties. And I'm like, Do you have any idea that radio is dead? That median age of the radio listener is 75. This is this is over? No, podcasting is the future with these guys from Ireland.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

That's what, that's what the future's grim. However

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you look at it. I'm gonna show my school by donate to no agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

All right, we're gonna thank everyone who came into the shortlist. And when you came in $50 and above and again, we appreciate everybody who supports the show. If everybody supported us with just a couple dollars a month, it would be it would be perfect,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

but that there'll be no sad puppies.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Yeah, and but next we're clubbing a baby seal. John, take us through to the 50s All right, let's

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day days, you will be triggered. You will be buddy feels the same.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

It's like a like a pot. Alright,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

you got any ISOs?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I do I have too much you got? I got cannot I cannot do it again. Okay. And then I got Trump saying not too good. That's too good.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I have let me see. I think I'm over. I sewed actually, here's the Arnold. He was boring. No, or I hated every minute of it. Come on.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

That's a good one. That's pretty good.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Also have How did this get in here? That got in there that shouldn't be there. That, by the way, is a woman who's bringing America back together. There's this one

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and this one, yes. That's right. That's true. Yeah.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Well, I don't like to use negative ones. But from Schwarzenegger. I like the I hated every minute of it.

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I hated every minute of it.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

That's kind of clear, crisp. I think we should you know, we have our mixed feelings about that guy.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

And for your consideration of the day. That's right. Everybody has time once again for the tip of the day. Jhansi Dvorak, what do you have in store for us?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

So you know, one of the things about the shows I uncomfortable with Oh, is there are ragging on vaccines on the backs on the COVID shot, the mRNA shot uncomfortable

Adam CurryAdam Curry

with that. I'm

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

uncomfortable knowing that at least half of our audience has taken this shot.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Okay, fair enough.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

So I have so Peter McCullough has a protocol for ridding yourself of the after effects of the shot. Yes, yeah, we've kind of discussed what we've never fully discussed. So I decided just to link to it. And my tip is for people who had the shot to go look at the protocol and see what it is and read about it and it's easy to get to it's it's on the web. It's under, you could type this into check to make sure it works. Tiny. You are l.com. We all know that

tinyurl.com/no-agenda No hyphen agenda. Oh,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

excellent. Now you just you produce something. That's good.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I pray. Yes, I did. Nice. And so go there and read that. And then if you you know, this way, I think I think it's a I think the protocol sounds possible. It sounds like a winner. McCullough is the one who developed it. And I think it might be something people should be aware of.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I like this idea. And so it's tiny URL, or no tiny What is it again?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

tinyurl.com/no. Agenda? No, dash agenda? No, no data agenda. Okay. Yeah, I gave the regular no agendas at work. I'd like that. Because

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I know people here in town who were forced to take the vaccine. And they are they have done this protocol. There's several functional medicine doctors here in town who are administering this protocol. And from what I hear with great success, whatever that means people are doing it. And I think that's a great idea.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

And it's all it's public domain products is not like you have to go get a prescription. And

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I've also heard people just taking ivermectin just on a, like a regular basis. Yeah.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

for the heck of it. I think just the color and this protocol, I think is probably better. Yeah. Unless you have worms, then you ivermectin do the trick.

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Good news. It's good advice. John sees two.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Beautiful, beautiful at the end of another broadcast day. Not on Odyssey No, we can't be taken over by Soros. But we will club a baby seal if you don't support us. Film and 11 we have end of show mixes from Judd Holly Professor Jay Jones and David kept up coming up for you. And if you want to stay tuned to troll room.io no agenda dot stream. Coming up next we have

the millennial media offensive. This is episode 125. You definitely want to check these kids out because they are millennials and their do immediate offensive and their value for value. So why not coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country. Right here in Fredericksburg, Texas in the morning everybody. I'm Adam curry

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

it from Northern Silicon Valley where it's kinda chilly. I'm Jhansi Dvorak we return

Adam CurryAdam Curry

on Thursday debate nights of course it's a show day they know what they're doing over there and in political land in DC Jake Tapper is going to save the day. We'll get you ready for remember us had no agenda donations.com until Thursday adios mofos Hui Hui, and such Of course, they passed out the memo to the as you pointed out the stages.

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There is so much misinformation disinformation as we've been caught talking about the president wandering big fakes videos. These videos are effective because they are difficult to fix for reasons the President wandering means John Pierre and others are calling these cheap fakes cheap fakes. We're hearing about some called shoe fakes, the president wandering, even calling it's literally

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

describing what CBS News has been doing for years. Where was the

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president wandering?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

This is so misleading.

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Video, however, we have seen last few months the videos targeting Biden are getting a lot more traction online. This is trying to last us wandering off. But what about Biden who believes he is fit to lead us? That's a really good question. Oh, absolutely. People have been watching. They express concerns about your mental immunity. They say that you are too old. Come on, man. Want to go with the evidence and the truth, the very public and obvious

cognitive decline of the US President? The President is walking away and there was not one thing funny about it. Oh, absolutely. Because I know what mental illness looks like. I'm serious. There is no shame in being unwell. Dr. Joe Biden. Where are you? What mental illness look? I watched a man completely void of all awareness that is your judgment aimlessly wandering away. Oh, absolutely what mental illness looks like.

We've entered a new era series. There is no way in hell Joe Biden is running America. Judgment. We want to go with the evidence and the truth. The claim to this tragedy lies squarely on the people around him. But what about but I do believe he is fit to lead us? No, I'm serious. Mental illness look aimlessly wandering away the very public and obvious cognitive decline for US president that is your judgment. There is no shame in being unwell. The President is seen walking away

No, I'm serious. Because I know what mental illness looks like. Chill Dr. Jill Biden where are you? That's a really great question. No, I'm serious what mental illness looks like and there is not one thing funny about it. Oh absolutely. Come on. Because I know what mental illness looks like at one of the most

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I love this whole topic

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they are here to face video for jobs. Earlier obviously the fact checkers have repeatedly caught on pushing misinformation disinformation. Bias is just something coming from Europe your part of the world calling them and she makes misinformation. misinformation. Oh no. Really believing what was being said and what was the scene what they are borak.org/n A I hated every minute of it.

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