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No Agenda Episode 1669 - "You-Crane"

"You-Crane"

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John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

How Israeli is he?

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Adam curry, John C. Devora.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

June 16 2024. This is your award winning combination media assassination episode 1669. This

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is no agenda. Celebrating

Adam CurryAdam Curry

dad's and broadcasting live from 11 feet below sea level from Schiphol Airport in the Netherlands in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

from Northern Silicon Valley where we all want to get rid of the term on sweet. I'm Jessie

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Buzzkill.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I love it. There's at least a two second delay. It's great. The opening was not as tight as you think it was.

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Okay. We'll move on leg.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Oh, is that what it is? Like? Yes. Well, here I am. John. 11 feet below sea level at at the airport. And you feel the pressure? No, no. And honestly, it was supposed to rain this entire week. Today is an absolutely gorgeous day. Surprise warming. Surprisingly, yes, surprise. It's

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

funny. They can't predicted weather very accurately, but yet.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I know. I know. We had we had the big meetup here. Yesterday.

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How they go, dude.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Dude, dude, it was this is one of the best meetups I've ever been to. It was. It

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

was embarrassing. The Carnival that they set up for you in Texas?

Adam CurryAdam Curry

It was up there. I mean, they're all up there. You know, obviously Indianapolis is good. The the Bastrop meet up was good. There was 115 producers and they had to chop it off at 115 because the fire marshal said we couldn't have more people than 115 and it was it was good. I mean, we had no agenda. Producers come in early Valtor. And Ruth they they they organized everything at this place called Cafe Dolch merch which is really a like a podcast studio but then with a whole

like a whole bar and meeting place connected to it. And and they they brought food or different kinds of curries that was pulled pork. I don't know if you saw it. I think it might have sent you a link below there. No, no, no, we

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

don't know. When I was in headlights. I was gonna be different curries. You said Oh,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

boy. Did you see the video I took of the amygdala PCR machine, one of the producers put together? No, oh, you've got to see that. So it's it looks like he posted. I think on Twitter, probably. You can look it up real quick. I tell you this, it kind of looks like a little mini kiosk it was completely built with a screen and a receipt printer and a hole on the front. And it says you know, put your finger in the

hole and then had this it had multiple versions of it. But the screen went by analyzing your amygdala spinning up PCR cycles, sending off your vaccine status and this whole thing and then at the end, says pull your finger out. And then it prints out a little receipt that was your amygdala passport. And the whole thing was fantastic. It was just one of those creative things that they do over here.

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You haven't looked at Oh, have you? Like look, I

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

don't have a Twitter account on this podcast on computer. I keep it isolated. You

Adam CurryAdam Curry

need to have a Twitter account on your show on your show rig dude. Dude, you're right, dude. They had the roll up JCD poster. They had a whole sound system and Frank aka Mike I think he was the he was spinning tunes everyone's dance and we had the no agenda jingle bingo, which I had never witnessed before. But the handout cards with all the different indoor jingles that I've forgotten, completely

forgotten. And you know, that prizes, which included stuff like boxes of mac and cheese and screaming goats and it was very thoughtful. And I would say the main thing and you know, I'll be thanking some people later because everyone heard what you said. When they gave a donation they put it in an envelope with a note came up personally, I think I'm pretty sure I met everybody spoke with everybody. I was there from, I don't know

four until 11. It was it was a long, long day, especially since I've just flown in from Texas. But the camaraderie of these people here we have no idea how bad it was here during the COVID lockdowns. Remember, they had curfews and all kinds of weird stuff. You couldn't go anywhere without a QR code that showed you at it. You know, you're vaccinated. And this is a tight group. It's so Almost, it's kind of like they went through some traumatic World War event together. You laugh, but it's,

in a way, it's sad. It's like it must have been really, really bad. And of course, they had a raffle and we'll be thanking that executive producer later on. And I would say that too. There's a lot of people I met Taunton nail, Walter, I'll talk about later, who I guess had met 32 years ago for the first time when she was 13. At some, some showbiz event I was doing but the cool guys who had who had not met before was code monkey Tim, who did our wet who does our website and also did the No,

no agenda dot stream and OYSTEIN. Bear her, you know him from, from the from the donation segment.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I know him from pronouncing his name wrong. Nine out of 10 times.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

So Matt, imagine like a Viking who is nine feet tall, has the whole beard and you know, like the red beard and the mustache and everything. And he's but He's thin. He's he's really thin. And he's kind of he's an alien. His dancing was more like Body Slam kind of mosh pits. He's a funny guy. Anyway, I'll talk about some of the other producers who were there. Because a lot of people donated and it was really he was a great time. Thank you. Thank you to the very tight, no agenda

community here in the Netherlands. People came from from north from south. Some even came from other countries, just to be here. It was great. It was groovy. So I really haven't left the airport. I do have a quick tab, a travel report if you're interested.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I think we've all everybody's interested in a travel report if it's interesting. Well, it's

Adam CurryAdam Curry

It's short. It's it's more because of the just how smooth it was. I was a bit concerned I was flying on United Airlines. It was the cheapest for me to get from San Antonio to Amsterdam for some reason, the price if you want to go from if you want to direct flight, you have to go from Austin. It's three times as expensive and only on delta or KLM. It's like, okay, and I looked at San Antonio. So I flew from San Antonio to Houston. And from Houston to Amsterdam. This is

the airline that has a CEO is the dude in the dress. It was on a Boeing Boeing triple seven. So you know, I don't know what's you know, there's only two engines. Who knows what's gonna happen. I have to say, everything was fantastic. The connection was smooth. It was I had to walk about 15 minutes when I got to Houston almost walked right straight into boarding the cabin personnel were cheery and happy and bright. Just excited to see me.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

It was a day did they dance? One of

Adam CurryAdam Curry

the guys could have I think but he didn't. It was, you know, I really expected it to be bad just based on our own reporting like, what was going on with this airline? It was great. It really was good.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Well, that's good to know. Yeah. Because United is the main carrier out of San Francisco. Yeah. And of course you hit the report over the weekend. Was that the it looks like the Chinese have been selling a fake titanium. Yeah,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I have a clip. I don't know if you have

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

one please. Yes play a second.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Here we go. Yes, I got that one. Even more

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turbulence for Boeing. The commercial airline maker along with Airbus are staring down allegations that they may have used counterfeit titanium and their aircraft. That's according to evidence from a supplier that has now triggered a Federal Aviation Administration investigation. Spirit aero system alleges that the two aviation giants use titanium in their planes that came with paperwork that may

have been falsified. Today's news adds to the growing trouble for Boeing, which has been the subject of ongoing federal investigations for many safety problems.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

You go, they left out the main part of the story.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Well, I'm glad you're here to tell us that fake

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

titanium came from China, of course. And they're the ones who folded up the paperwork. Heaven forbid we'd mentioned that. And titanium we used to always get in for aircraft generally speaking was from Russia, which we've boycotted we can't take their stuff anymore. So let's take the fake stuff from China seems to be more the story to me. Yeah,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

no, that's not what I that's all I had was that part of the story. They did not mention that and that was it sounded like NBC, or ABC. The news over here is pretty much really only two things. foosball, sports ball because the UEFA Cup is on and everyone's I don't have anyone that yours listening to the show because Holland was playing earlier and thinks Slovenia is playing and oh boy,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

oh, I don't want to miss that Oh, football.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

And then the g7 a lot of reporting on the g7. The hotel seems to have 8000 channels of news now, which is kind of different. You get France 24 and five languages including Well, French, obviously. But they also seem to do a German version, which I'd never seen before. France 24 German version, something's going on an invasion. And the news was, except for one report was all pretty much the same. This is the BBC

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at the g7 summit in Italy, the official agenda was dominated by migration and China's trade policies. But there's been much talk about a speech by President Putin that he called an immediate ceasefire in Ukraine if certain conditions were met. They were that Ukraine will give up four regions in the East partially occupied by Russia now and abandon ambitions to join NATO. Western leaders dismissed the offer as a demand for Ukraine to capitulate with key of calling the proposals

offensive to common sense. So

Adam CurryAdam Curry

that's pretty much what that's yes.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

We got that story today. It was Jake Sullivan came out so this is nuts. Who would agree to such a crazy thing. Let's kill more Ukrainians.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

It's so weird because most of the reports I have us stateside, they talk about so Lenski and 10 year deal and money. And they just say you know Russia wasn't invited today

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here in Italy. The President also meeting with g7 leaders trying to send a strong message to Russia's President Putin signing a 10 year security agreement committing the US to

help train and equip Ukraine's military. And we have signed this strongest agreement within us since our independence, the g7 leaders today also agreeing to use interest from Russian assets to lend Ukraine $50 billion as the US expands sanctions against banks in countries such as China that do business with Russia, the sanctions have so far done little to stop Putin, he cannot divide us. And we will be with Ukraine until they prevail in this war.

President Solinsky Chinese President Xi told him by phone that he wouldn't sell weapons to Russia, though President Biden is skeptical. China is not supplying weapons, but the ability to produce those weapons and the technology available to do it.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

So that was that was kind of the news over here was the although it's not really in the report. It was kind of like well, you know, if Russia I mean, China, if you still want to play with the big boys, you know, you don't want to get sanctioned or anything like we did. Vladimir,

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the g7 briefly became the group of 25 Oh, Italy invited 18 heads of state and international organizations to join the bloc on day two of the Leaders Summit. We will never accept the narrative that wants the West against the rest. Turkey's president Reggie of Thai Buddha one was among the gathering, joining a lengthy three and a half hour long session on artificial intelligence, energy and Africa

Mediterranean issues. On the sidelines, he held bilateral talks with the leaders of the United Arab Emirates and Brazil. For the first time a pontiff addressed a g7 summit, Pope Francis was invited as a special guest speaker discussing the ethical challenges of artificial intelligence. We will condemn humanity to a hopeless future if we took away people's ability to make decisions about themselves and their lives by condemning them to depend on the choices of

machines. g7 leaders also discussed irregular migration and how to tackle its root causes. illegal migration is now a global emergency. More people are moving across borders than at any time in our history. We cannot stand by and watch this human tragedy unfold. After a packed two days schedule. The Summit has wrapped up with the adoption of the leaders joint communique. It contained some strong language directed at China with g7 leaders vowing to tackle what they called China's unfair

business practices. I thought

Adam CurryAdam Curry

that was a little more interesting than just Ukraine Ukraine Ukraine Russia the Pope was there Yeah,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I have a three by three Oh, hold on.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

We had some technical problems so I'm not as on the ball as I should be. Well, do you uh Do you know John

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experiment by JC do it oh no after the bearings Don't worry from ABC

Adam CurryAdam Curry

three All right everybody let's get it's been a while it's been a hot minutes and we'll see how to three by three.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Well let's start with Selena wind is all about Pope Wang on NBC ABC

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tonight President Biden wrapping up the g7 summit with world leaders sharing a tender moment with Pope Francis in Italy. leader meeting one on one with the pontiff gifting him a decorative tray with an image of the capitol rotunda

at the Vatican. But two leaders discussing the urgent need for a ceasefire in Gaza and the war in Ukraine party with a handshake Pope Francis telling the President Francis the First pontiff ever to address the g7 delivering a warning about artificial intelligence, urging the leaders to put more guardrails in place guardrails, saying, quote, we would condemn humanity to a future without hope, by dooming them to depend on the choices of

machines. An earlier a later moment at the Vatican, Pope Francis meeting with comedians like Chris Rock, Stephen Colbert, and Whoopi Goldberg saying, in the midst of so much gloomy news, you have the power to spread serenity and smiles. And wit, the g7 leaders here are backing the ceasefire deal that President Biden had laid out. They say that the number of civilian casualties in Gaza is unacceptable. And they're urging Israel not to launch a full scale invasion into Rafah.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

So who put together the guest list for the comedian's?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

You're asking the wrong guy Whoopi Goldberg,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Jimmy Kimmel. I mean, Chris Rock, Okay, how about to ask any but like real comedians? How about Dave Dave Smith comedian Dave Smith. They should have put him on the list and Joe Rogan could put them on the list and No, no,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

there's Rory wrong party wrong party okay. Even though Rogen is a Democrat, I'm sure but he has not he hasn't followed a party line to stream but oops oh

Adam CurryAdam Curry

he's no good. Goldberg when's the last time she did stand up?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

She hasn't done stand up for 40 years Yeah, exactly. I saw actually saw her do stand up ruling when she was still doing stand up and she wasn't that good.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

You see all right.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

She did the kind of stand up it was a I've seen this before where you kind of make up something and then riff on it on something you made up like say for example, Hey, you know when you get on an airline and and it's funny that all the seats are plaid. It's just the weirdest thing. Every seats plaid, what are these guys? Are they a bunch of loggers?

Adam CurryAdam Curry

That's 1980s Like Paul Provenza level comedy.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

It's like, well, first of all, there's no plaid seats that I remember. And then to riff on something that doesn't exist, which is what she her bid was, oh, and she did it with all kinds of observational humor, which was not observational at all was made. It

Adam CurryAdam Curry

was lies. There are lies

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

classic. Onward with NBC.

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Tonight President Biden wrapping up the g7 summit in Italy after a private meeting with Pope Francis. The President, a devout Catholic greeted the pontiff along with other g7 leaders, the pope urging them to establish guardrails for AI guardrails, FTP, totally artificial intelligence. It's a fascinating tool and also a terrifying one.

He says the pope using his pulpit in non traditional ways hosting a gathering of more than 100 comedians and actors at the Vatican, including Balan Whoopi Goldberg and Chris Rock among others, telling them in the midst of so much gloomy news, you have the power to spread peace and smile. Oh

Adam CurryAdam Curry

no, we're lost. I'm gonna count on those guys to sense peace and smiles.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Whoo. If they said there's 100 actors and comedians, why did they name the exact same three words clearly be seen named?

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Where's Clooney? Clooney should have been there. If there were actors with JLo Where's Beyonce? I'm not used to this

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

meeting questions that I can't answer um, I'm just either way Did you see the video of Biden going up to the Pope and then banging his head against him

Adam CurryAdam Curry

the pope have to adjust his cap.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

With that little little focus in a wheelchair something

Adam CurryAdam Curry

on the top of his head that

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

little vein goes yeah, this a pope hat. It's definitely he banged him in the forehead and he didn't he kept his head against his his start chatting with him now and was very bizarre was on Tik Tok. The news media wouldn't cover anything like that. To get good at tick tock

Adam CurryAdam Curry

here on infinite loop was the D Day video of Biden wandering off when those parachuters Hannah the thing that disappointed me and she kind of showed me her color is what was Georgia Maloney doing going and saving him? Oh, no, no,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

he likes it. am I've seen this before Maloney. There's also another video going around with Maloney giving the evil eye the sting, to Murcia McCrone I saw that one, but But when she runs into Binus, like your granddad or something, she's She seems very protective.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Oh, and then everyone immediately everyone's in on it. So she she turns him around. Oh, Mr. President, look over here. And everyone then immediately shuffles over to stand behind Biden. Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah, we're looking from this vantage point. That's right, Mr. President. It was it was pathetic.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

It was pretty bad. Yeah. And where was our final clip was just CBS and Nancy Cordis

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meeting of the minds at the g7 summit, where Pope Francis, who arrived by helicopter this morning shared his concerns about artificial intelligence, he didn't get a chance to challenge the pontiff urged the world leaders gathered here to establish stronger global guardrails for the development of AI and to ban so called killer robots altogether, the autonomous weapons systems can choose their targets using sensors with no human guidance at all. We'll be showing you the

data. We need to ensure proper human control over the choices made by AI programs. He warned. Human Dignity itself depends on it. The Pope was an early advocate for Ethics in AI and AI generated deep fake of him and a white puffer coat went viral last year. But that's just one example of what experts say are the potentially troubling implications. Oh, democracy. Oh,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

the pope in a puffer coat is troubling for democracy. Biden issued

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an executive order last year requiring domestic AI developers to share their safety test results with the US government. The Pope's stress today that human emotions can never truly be replicated by a computer and as if to prove that point. He posted this photo from his meeting yesterday with more than 100 comics, and comedians. There you see Stephen Colbert, Chris Rock, Jimmy Fallon, he told them that they unite people because laughter is contagious. Yeah,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

he should have said it is connection is protection. That would have been funny, but no, I don't want to wander too far from from the other topics. We just want to switch back to the g7 Ukraine for a moment.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I want to before we do that, I want to comment on that clip. Sure. What kind of safety tests need to be shared? And what is the safety test when it comes to AI?

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Well, the safety test I'm asking you I'm gonna tell you the safety test is that people aren't confused when you use the new what's the what's the new version of the image software that came out when you say woman laying down the chose these contorted three three armed ladies upside down all squashed together? Have you seen this? Yeah, it's what's the not Dali but what's the other? What's the other big image?

Journeys one? Oh, it's one troll room helped me out. It's like all everyone's talking about it's it's it's the whole thing is a mess.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

It was talking about Star Wars.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Everybody everybody's talking about if there's a will there's entire Reddit of people. People posting these images. This whole thing just doesn't work. And it's like version. Yeah. But what's.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

How is that unsafe?

Adam CurryAdam Curry

That's what I mean. There's nothing unsafe. It just doesn't work. So oh, it's unsafe. It's in the lab. The stuff in the lab is what's unsafe? Oh, no, I'm sorry. It's not Mira Marathi. Since you took us there. The Chief Technology Officer of open AI. What do you think the quote? What are the qualifications of someone who was a chief technology officer? What are the things you kind of need to know? Do

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

you have to have owned an apple to pay as you go? So

Adam CurryAdam Curry

here's her whole career. She won a scholarship and attended Pearson, United World College of the Pacific and Canada. Graduated 2005. Then she pursued a dual degree in the United States, bachelor of arts and mathematics from Colby. And then she went

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

James Colby, the CIA guy. No.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

And then she has her first job was, I think it was Tesla. So she was in Tesla. And then she goes to open AI. So like, I don't know if she's a coder, might be by buses. I'm

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

like it.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

So here's what she said recently about the immune all the dangerous stuff that they have in the lab

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inside the labs. We have this capable models and have, you know they're not that far ahead from what the public has access to, for free? Well

Adam CurryAdam Curry

hold on a second. If it's if it's not that far ahead, and how can it be so much more dangerous? I haven't seen anything frightening from what's free.

Unknown

And that's a completely different trajectory for bringing technology into the world that we're in. Sure.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

What's his accent? She's got a Canadian.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

He's Albanian. Now, okay.

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Oh, Albania, Albania. And yes, we've seen historically. And it's a great opportunity because it brings people along it gives them intuitive sense for the capabilities and risks, and allows people to prepare for the advent of this world, bringing advanced AI into the world.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I think I think she's actually reading from chit chat GBT.

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And obviously the opportunity. So

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

she's saying nothing. What is she saying is opportunity and risk and blah, blah, blah, you're actually using words out,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

you're using Tina's favorite word, word salad. Exactly. It's all word salad, which is they probably train the model based on her.

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And obviously, the opportunities are huge. Now it's normal, that which you are, we talk a lot about the risks, because they're so important. But also, we wouldn't do this if we didn't believe that the opportunities here are huge,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

blah, blah, blah. There's nothing huge. She said that. That's what you do as a as Chief Technology Officer, you use blah. Alright, so now,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

so she's the CTO. Was CTO is generally speaking are people that can code. Yeah. Or at least know something other than word salads. Yeah.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

No cheese that

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

does something fishy

Adam CurryAdam Curry

about this one? No, the whole, the whole operation is fishy. The whole all you have to sign this, this NDA forever. And you can never ever talk about how lame it is. That's all it is. Oh, we'll give you all this money. Just don't tell anybody the truth. It doesn't work. I mean, it works for coding. Every whenever I say doesn't work I give you. I use GitHub co pilot it rocks. Okay. Sure.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I'm sure Adam crappies adam@curry.com. That's the address. Yeah,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I mean, it does. I'm sure it works great for him. They

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

basically, actually, you're talking to the real coders, and we've gotten notes and you know it now, you know, we both know it. It doesn't work, right. It just works. It works. It works. Yeah. It's useful. Yeah. You don't need to fill in the gaps to put your crap code out for you to actually run the program. Now,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

here's what's interesting, Martin. He's from Denmark, and he's in the podcasting 2.0 group. And he he used to be a full time coder at his day job. And now he's management, probably middle manager, but he's management. And he says, It's really amazing. Because when I get RFPs, which is usually a PDF, I just run it into Chad GPT. And it fills in the RFP, and then he can adjust things later. And he says, It's really weird, because he's pretty sure the RFPs are

also generated by a chat GPT type AI. So we really have

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to use a computer. Yes.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Yes. Which I think really, ultimately, the savings, we're going to find out the savings is you can get rid of all middle management. Just don't need any of that. That may be where the savings is. And that may be why people are afraid. Because if there's anything, certainly in corporate life, but also academia, middle management is fat. We can clean up a lot of that.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I just thought oh, that's it. That's actually that is worth the price of the show.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

All right. Good night, everybody.

Unknown

Thanks for coming along.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

See you later. Back to Russia Ukraine. So I did read a transcript and I actually tried to pull a clip of Putin explaining his peace deal which is pretty much hey let's let's stop fighting and we'll keep we'll keep the port and we'll keep keep Odessa you know with the Odessa people they want it to be with us we did a vote. But we want this Don Bosco show Crimea that Crimea. I'm sorry. We want we want the Donbass

region is an essence what'd he say? And why? Well, we have a boots on the ground boots on the ground comes to us from sparkles of chaos, who says I did some research and sent a couple of I don't know if it's a he or she sent some pages that I have read on Ukraine mining geology in the war zones. I used to work as a geoscientist. So I put on my Pebble pin Pat and and took a look. Do we have the best producers in the world or what? This is this is part of why they no agenda shows is the best

podcast in the universe. In the industry for projects the first place I would look for any international domestic related papers on job geology would be the SPE Society of Petroleum Engineers, USGS or state Geological Survey international

use the SP great resource to find papers and information. And below is an executive summary from the last document I found from the 2023 report made for investment opportunities in exploration and production made by the Ukraine Geological Society, what are the chances is the executive summary to begin the document list out the critical raw materials such as lithium titanium, zirconium, nickel, cobalt, Chrome, Mo molar molybdenum denim, what is molybdenum? molybdenum? What is

moleben? molybdenum is a it's like an amygdala.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I can't say it again. molybdenum,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

molybdenum. molybdenum. Yes. No, you don't know what it is. It's one

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

of the rare earths that people use for different alloys. It's an alloy product as far as I know,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

beryllium. Got that nailed it 10, top, tantalum, tantalum, yeah, tantalum niobium, niobium, niobium, gold, lead, zinc, graphite, and hydrocarbons. And so the document is broken into areas fields and license blocks with regard to each mineral found in that area with diagrams and short descriptions. There's also some offshore so we see in the southern Warzone areas who you can find rare earth minerals gold, lead and zinc, which are ores and poly metallic deposits

in about seven fields. There's also offshore black, she's black sea shelf hydrocarbon deposits, three license areas that contain lithium, tantalum, niobium, rubidium, mica, rubidium, cesium, tin and beryllium. Each of these areas have block named etc. This is what it's about. Now we understand whether Putin actually believes that this is a Russian region or not. This is the fight. This is it that they already divvied up the the breadbasket to all the multinationals, those are all

licensed out the wheat. And now it's about the rare earth minerals and and there seems to be some gas and some other hydrocarbon goodies in there as well. No wonder we're fighting. No wonder.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Yes, I think this is the untold part of the story. And we don't, it's all democracy. Well, it's for democracy. We're saving Europe, we're saving Europe. We're saving Europe. Russia is getting a hold of the tantalum boats and whatever else they need, which are going to end the Russians are unlike the Chinese. I always like to point this story out, which is that when the Chinese stole the silkworms, this is, you know, hundreds and hundreds of years ago when the Japan had

a monopoly on silk in the world. And because they had domesticated silkworms, and they were making silk and the Chinese wanted to make silk. So they somehow confiscated through industrial espionage. They stole some silk worms and started breeding them and they started making silk and to the point where they're making so much silk that they overwhelmed the

Japanese market and they became the monopoly. But unlike the Japanese, and I've seen this before, and I tried to I don't know how I can express it because because it's so inculcated into Chinese culture of best price. They never turn into gougers. Somebody has to show me an example of where they do that. They bring it out at a super low price, and they get a monopoly and they never raised the price. They don't get

Adam CurryAdam Curry

it. They're doing something wrong.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

That's not the way the Russians are. Well,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

whatever the case is, you would say? We're definitely we're definitely bringing democracy and peace to Europe, specifically to Germany,

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NATO Defence Ministers have agreed that the alliance will take more of a role in coordinating military aid to Ukraine, the decision? When

Adam CurryAdam Curry

did you know we've noticed this a couple of times? When did it become Ukraine?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Policy was Ukraine. Actually, you've noticed that more and make it

Adam CurryAdam Curry

used to be Ukraine? Yeah. And then it knows Ukraine, Ukraine, me Ukraine, our crane, whose crane is it

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the aid to Ukraine. The decision follows a meeting of the Transatlantic Alliance at NATO headquarters in Brussels. pledges for bilateral assistance will continue to be organized through a US led group of some 50 countries. NATO will now take over some of the logistics for delay. During that support and training, NATO head Jens Stoltenberg says the mission will be headquartered at a US military base in Germany, and involve almost 700 staff. These

efforts do not make NATO a party to the conflict. Our support to crane to pole it's right to self defense.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Oh, we're not really doing anything. We're just doing it. In Germany. Oh, man, How stupid are these people? Germans, Germans, you've got to stop this. This is nuts. You do not want that. You don't want to know being it's do study some history again for trouble study some history. People

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

don't do that anymore. It's gone. We were talking about gender history. So this yes,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

it's Yes. His Gender Studies is how it's now. The we're talking about the 50 billion disagree. This was also a topic of discussion that $50 billion that that we're going to give to Ukraine, which somehow comes from the 300 billion locked up in the Federal Reserve's SWIFT system and Euro clear that is Russian money, you know, the theft we've been talking about? And you kind of want to know how that worked. If the money was locked up, and how the how can you still get interest on it? If it's

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

frozen assets, which is the term they keep using images frozen? How is it? How is it making money?

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I have? I have an answer. Good from Jim Rickards. And he would kind of know, this

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is what's called a structured product, the way that where they're stealing the assets is a structured product. If you go back to 2008, you said, Hey, you got all these garbage mortgage mortgages out there? How could you turn them into AAA securities? And well, she said, Hold my beer, I'll show you how to do it. And they did. And course it all collapsed. The rating agencies were here's how it works. So let's just take the Russian assets above my first question

$50 billion dollar loan to Ukraine, who is the lender? The lender is the United States of America, which basically you me, and all the all the posse and all the viewers and the American taxpayers are lending the money. So the United States government is the lender of $50 billion to Ukraine, what now you take the Russian assets $300 billion dollars, the interest should be about four and a half percent. And I say that because they've

been frozen for over over two years. So when a two year security matures, the church should just send you the money. That's and, and the Treasury is basically stealing that. So they reinvest it, they go buy another security. So the interest on that portfolio should be about four and a half percent that's estimated, but I'm sure it's pretty close. So the 300 billion is going to throw off 13 point 5 billion a year in interest at four and a half percent. And let's just assume five years, I

think it doesn't matter. That's a reasonable estimate. That's

$67.5 billion of interest over five years. Now let's look at the Russian assets as look at the loan $50 billion loan us as the lender, so I'm assuming the same four and a half percent, that's the rate on five year, approximately five year US Treasury notice that that the interest on that is two and a quarter billion per year, times five years is 11 and a quarter billion, and you have to pay back the 50 billion of principal, so you're gonna need 61 and a quarter billion dollars

at the end of five years to pay back the principal and the interest on the loan. So okay, we're gonna steal 67 billion approximately, from the Russian interest. And that's enough to pay for the 61.2 5 billion on the loan. So basically, the loan is going to be made, it's going to accrue interest, it's gonna get repaid, it's gonna get repaid from the Russian assets. But the Russian assets happen to be six times larger than the loan, at least for now. And it will produce enough interest to

pay off this loan. So the g7 they're gonna say, well, we're not stealing the Russian assets. We're just taking the interest. And then the loans separate. This is why I say it's a structured product one separate and we'll use the interest to pay off the loan less by the Ukraine was the word no worries, we'll just hit hit a brush corroboration which is delusional, but that's the way they think. So

Adam CurryAdam Curry

we're kind of stealing it from us. You know, what

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

was the audience with that one?

Adam CurryAdam Curry

No, I don't think so. I think a lot of people got that. The whole the whole thing is crooked.

Unknown

It's why it's gambling.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

But it's our money. I mean, I mean, they're in essence they're printing it

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

right? Now actually selling the books. It's real money up well, yeah,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

they make it up right.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Russians money and then we're kind of stealing the money that loaning it to Ukraine. Getting money back. We're probably probably making out in the deal. Probably what am I what am I thinking we're making out on?

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I don't know if it's You and I, John someone's making out on the deal we're not making anything

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

on the deal that's for sure. And the guys who are losing their assets or their you or the other Ukrainian soldiers and women and men are all getting killed chopped up now to buy the machine so it was somebody he gets a beryllium

Adam CurryAdam Curry

is that the most important one? I kind of liked the molybdenum molybdenum. Yeah, that's exactly right. That's the one I like the molybdenum is the one I'm going for it Ba ba ba ba scat. Is there any news? Because I did get a a thing from Turkish Radio Television. Is there any news about the expiration of our deal with Saudi Arabia? Is that being discussed anywhere?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

None zip it just was mentioned. We haven't said anything about I think it's I don't believe that the deals is fully in play. Well, I think it's a bluff or some sort Well, listen to

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this is the reign of the US dollar and global trade under an existential threat. This may well be the case because a critical decade's long deal between Saudi Arabia and the US known as the petro dollar deal expired on June 8. The deal was originally signed on June 8 1974. It's through it the US agreed to buy oil from Saudi Arabia and exchange for military aid and equipment while the Saudis would invest their petro

dollar revenue back into the US economy. In other words, Petro dollars or US dollars in exchange for crude oil exports. The expiry of a deal now allow Saudi Arabia to send us oil in multiple different currencies, such as the Chinese renminbi, and Yuan, the euro and the British pound as well as crypto currencies like Bitcoin. vital to the US as global economic influence, the expiry of a collapse of the deal is expected to impact the US dollar value and its dominance in global

trade. As experts now also particular Saudi Arabia is intending to end this association with USD following his entry into bricks, which seeks to prioritize trade in local currencies, with Russia and Saudi Arabia now vying to move away from trading and USD will the global dominance of the dollar, which is still the most dominant currency in the world be coming to an end.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

So I kind of understand what they're saying the deal, I guess it was a 50 year deal. It just ended. And they have to do it. And they haven't really they could redo it. But do you see and they're there with the Pope. And probably here's

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

the problem was mentioned very early in that report. The problem for Saudi Arabia is the whole thing was contingent on them buying our armaments, and they're loaded to the gills with our gear. Yeah. And they can't all of a sudden, just stiff us and expect that gear to get repaired ever again, or to have us protect them. Yeah, or have us protect him. So that's not going I said, No, this is an overly drip

dramatized problem that may go away. In due course, she wants so it's like it gets out of us so positive.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Not only is the deal going to be re upped but Biden's not going to win. You're very positive. You're the guy. I'm

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

not that positive about Biden not winning. No, I have a series of clips. Yes.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

You know, we've we've Robert Epstein was in play during the the 2020 election as well.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Yes, in fact, I have all those clips. But I should mention that Robert Epstein kind of dropped off the radar. His wife

Adam CurryAdam Curry

got killed in a horrible accident. His

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

wife got killed. Yeah. Even though he thought he was, you know, targeted, and the wife got killed a miserable car wreck of some sort. Same thing happened to Joe Biden's first wife. So you don't know what's going on there. But that was

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Robert, keep your eye on Jill. And that's what you want to do. So

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I have a lot of different not that long. A couple of one of them is. But this Robert Epstein. Robert Epstein is what it's actually he's pretty well introduced here. He's the guy who who've, who uses a technique to spy on Google, of having edits explained in these clips to have a whole bunch of people and not net. They're not anonymous. They're real people that Google has been tracking. And he also says that everyone who's been on Google For 20 years will have 3

million pages of data on them in a database someplace. Every every person. Yeah, everyone. If you've been on Google for 20 years, you'll have 3 million pages of documentation. Done a four size or legal letter is probably a four. Because Google you know, they're they're cosmopolitan as they are Cosmo. Let's start with Robert Epstein. One

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that would be Dr. Rob Bert Epstein, who is the head of the American Institute for Behavioral Research and Technology, where

Adam CurryAdam Curry

who's who did this interview?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

This came from? Epstein. Yes.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Right. You don't want to say Epstein you want to say Epstein Epstein?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Yes. This came from the Michael Knowles podcast called Pure talk, podcast, a podcast on YouTube, I did send you a link to it. So it could be in the show notes.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

It is in the show notes.

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Also the former editor in chief of Psychology Today, and holds a PhD from Harvard. But despite that, actually has had a great career and has aroused the hire of many, many powerful people, including the biggest corporation ever. Google. Dr. Epstein, thank you for being here. I want to get to so much I actually want to get to some of your other areas of research, because you are not just a guy who gives testimony

and goes on interviews and talks about big tech. You are a very serious person with a very lengthy career, and all sorts of credentials and publications. I do want to begin though you do with this Google elections question How bad is it's much worse than you think. So however bad you think it is, it's much worse. So I can just give you two numbers. And maybe that will summarize it for you. Google alone in this year's presidential election. If we don't do some extraordinary

things to stop them, which might be impossible. Google alone will be able to shift between six point 4,000,025 point 5 million votes in the presidential election. Generally speaking, with no one having the slightest idea that they've been manipulated. And generally speaking, without leaving a paper trail for authorities to trace, I think

Adam CurryAdam Curry

he had similar numbers. The you know, in the 2020 election, I think he had similar type numbers of what Google could shift.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Yeah, he might have He says his worse now than it was before.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

So well, why is the question

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

there? Democrats, you saw Sergey Brin in tears when Trump? No, I know

Adam CurryAdam Curry

that. But what what is the mechanism? What are they doing? Oh, yeah, he tries to, he

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

tries to bring some of it out. The mechanism is? Well, I mean, I wrote a column with my last substack column shows you some evidence of the mechanism is like, if you do a search on Donald Trump donations, you'll, you won't get the Donald Trump donation site. But if you put Joe Biden donations that comes right at the top, okay, that's one that's manipulation of the way the information is presented some subtle manipulation. But as you're here, more and more of

what he has to say, you can see, yes, it adds up. It's like real money at the end of the day, you're is that

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because of the number of Democrats and Republicans using it? Or is that because of who's getting the notifications? Now? We're talking about proportions here. I'm saying that proportionally speaking, I'm saying that Democrats are getting those reminders at two and a half times the rate that results?

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Yes, clip two. Okay. Robert Epstein to right.

Unknown

Now that's happening. That's a very short one.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Yeah, that was the discus. Um, it's interesting, though, that well, that was an exponent explanatory except for the fact that the Google sends out a reminder to register to vote at a rate two and a half times greater to Democrats than they do to Republicans. And they determine who if you're Republican or Democrat, by your searches. And by your by your email, or what you use when you use Google, everyone uses Google email, I think 80% of our audience does.

And so if you're like, 80% of the audience, you're getting the no agenda newsletter, for example, you're probably not a Democrat. And so you get categorized such, probably,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

from time to time, don't receive the no agenda newsletter for above worries, yes,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

yes, that happens. A lot has happened. And particularly when I was critical of Google and one of the newsletters that was getting go to three, it,

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it almost makes me want to throw my hands in the air and say, this corporation is so powerful, they control everything. I'm not a major research psychologist, so I don't look into that. But the moment you start to look into these things, you say, Oh, well, look, the situation is even worse than you thought it was. Just to drive this point home. If Google is doing something like

that, which they are because we're measuring it right. And then at some point, they're going to send out partisan mailing your ballot reminders and at some point, they're going to send out partisan go vote reminders, and they're also stacking the deck in their search results. So the search results are highly biased, I can actually send your audience to a web page. And actually, you can actually see what the bias is

right now. And on Google search results, how does one calculate how does one we will we right now are collecting data with their permission, through the computers of more than 14,000 registered voters in all 50 states politically balanced? And all that information coming into the computers of real people we are aggregating in real time and analyzing in real time regarding bias while we're looking at the web pages that Google is sending

people to. And we're using three different organizations, ratings of political bias, taking the mean, and then calculating a mean for each search position in Google search results. So I hope I'm not being too detailed here. But no, no, the point is, we can measure very precisely whether there is bias in Google search results. And there's extraordinary bias in Google search results sufficient to shift millions of votes in this year's election.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I remember how he does this, because he said, It's all ephemeral. So He equips like hundreds of people, I think, with a tracking device, 14,000 focac, 14,000. And that's how he's able to track the the bias that Google puts in, that he saw he throws out that number 4 million to 20 million. Do you really, I mean, does he have any data to back up that that will serve? He

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

does a statistical analysis of what he's seeing with the 14,000 people? 7000 Republicans, 7000 Democrats, and he extrapolates and he does it in a way that is that is statistically sound. Okay. So that's where he's doing that. And he has other details in terms of how many people you because you just extrapolate if you have, you know, he's only looking at 14,000 computers, but like he says in, I think the next clip, 500 million people are hitting Google daily, you

Adam CurryAdam Curry

know, but not only in the United States, really,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

in the United States. All looked at number three, you're gonna say, Who's that worldwide? board after dinner table?

Adam CurryAdam Curry

They're all looking for AOC porn videos. But yeah, I'm sure I'm sure.

Unknown

Democrat, what we have learned to do is to monitor them the way they monitor us. We're surveilling them. We're collecting data that they are sending to real people. And by the way, that's the only way to see what they're really doing. You have to look over the shoulders of real people. Because all the content is personalized. You can't use an anonymized computer as the economist did. And a study, as some folks at Stanford University did in this study.

You can't use an anonymized computer. Because Google sees that as a bot. They see it as a non person, they know it's not a real person, because they don't have that huge pile of information. There's no real person would be anonymous, all content is personalized, right. So if they're sending content to a non person, guess what? It's unbiased, right? So people have conducted silly studies saying Google is not biased against conservatives or anyone else. Because look, we did this study

with an anonymized computer. And we're getting back clean, clean, clean data. Yes, that's right. That's true. Back, I can demonstrate it for you. That's actually true. But who cares? That's not what the data we're getting. The data we're getting is personalized. So we are looking over the shoulders of a very large number of registered voters. And they're real people and Google, Google cannot identify them. And that's how you see what they're sending. Okay.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Yeah, he says Google can't identify me means Google can identify them as stooges.

Unknown

I understand. All right. Okay, let's go to clip five,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I think we have been monitored. This is why their way this is a good clip, go as opposed to those first for those of those who are good, too. But this is like really good. This is the money shot people. We have been

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monitoring, building bigger and bigger monitoring systems since 2016. And 2020, we had a pretty big system in place for the first time. So we actually captured 1.5 million ephemeral experiences. That's what Google calls them. On Google and other platforms, we were very, very rapidly analyzing our data. We were seeing very extreme political bias on Google, but not on Bing or Yahoo. And that's important

for comparison purposes. And this time around, I thought, we're not going to wait till after the election, so I didn't want to I was reluctant to ever to reveal this what we what we knew before the election, because I was afraid Donald Trump might not think that much of I mean, I'm amazed by him. Yes, but I don't think much of him, but I was afraid he would take our data run to the Supreme Court and shut down the country. But we had found such incriminate Eating data in 2020.

That few days before the election, I contacted a reporter I knew at the New York Post, I said here, I'm going to send you a bunch of stuff. Look at it. I said, You just had a front cover story on the Hunter Biden laptop, I said, this will be your next front cover story. This is about large scale rigging of the current election. She was tremendously dubious. And then she looked at all the stuff I sent her and she got the

assignment, she wrote up the piece, she called me up. This is Friday, before the Tuesday election, she read me parts of the piece, this was gonna be the front cover. It was fabulous. Because it was about rigging, but with real data, right, showing real data.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Alright, hold on a sec. So what Google is doing here may spur on people to register to vote or to send in their vote. It seems to me like it's not going to sway anyone from one side to the to the other. I don't know about the independence and how important that is. thing people may have kind of made up their mind. So what he's saying here is stupid journalists. They're influenced by it. And the media portion is influenced by it. But do you think at this point that that

makes any difference for how people are going to vote? Will it sway anyone one way or the other is is just purely about the the turnout.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

It has a lot to do with the turnout, but it but like he says if your rigging the results, in other words, if you if you are on the fence and you're looking for something that is like, anti Biden material, and they won't give it to you, alright, that's going to sway Okay, so many people see the Biden roaming around clip, you know? Yeah. Well, let's continue this, and then you can discuss at the end, but this is the kicker to what he just said is the next clip,

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then her editor as a matter of course, this is not nothing unusual, called Google for comment. She called me up later that day, and she said, I am so mad. She didn't use that word. She used another word, little saucy. And she said, Well, New York journalists. So she said, your piece just got killed. I said what I said, You're the New York Post, you broke the hunter. She said, Yeah. But we get a lot of traffic from Google, which I look up at that time, they were

getting about 45% of their traffic from Google. Now, if you try to look that up, you can't even look that up anymore. Google has made that information disappear. But the New York Post it's true at that time was getting a lot of their traffic from Google so they could not afford to run the story.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Okay. Oh, that's a good point. So the New York Post is a compromised piece of crap.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Everybody is not us, baby. No, it's because we were starving to death. Here you go. So

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I can't believe it. It's so hard and we're starving,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

is here the final kick and provided a way that the thing was being as shown in the column I just did or did last week for substack. Bing is way off to off track. Now they, if you look at their Biden versus Trump searches, they put is a promotion for Biden being even though maybe in 2010 2020, there wasn't so much of this word being he says Yahoo. Yeah, but now there's tons it is just Pro, the Bing site is so pro Biden is ridiculous. So again,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

it may sway some Well, yes. I think all of America at this point, see something's wrong with Joe Biden, but I can see where independents are people who are on the fence. How big is that group? Really.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

It's about a third of the voters. Really,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

a third of voters is actually

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

3535. And the nemorosa were independents. Okay. All right. So here we go into final kicker of the kicker, and

Adam CurryAdam Curry

the kicker of the kicker is football.

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So I sent it off to Ted Cruz. And on November 5, two days after the election, Ted Cruz with two other senators sent a very threatening letter to the CEO of Google. So there's this right after the election saying, and and it goes on and on about what Epstein has found. And how do you account for this? You testified before Congress saying you don't interfere with elections? And guess what happened on November 5 of 2020. Wade crews got a car accident, Google, Google turned off all of

their manipulations. Now you're saying Wait, this is after the election? Who cares? Because Georgia where we had more than 1000 We call them field agents. Yeah. So we were we were collecting content Through the computers of more than 1000 registered voters all over Georgia, Georgia was gearing up to have two Senate runoff election Leffler and Purdue. I went I went down for those races. Well, on November 5, Google shut off their partisan go vote

reminders. No one from that day forward until that election, no one in Georgia. Gotta go vote reminder, nobody. They turned off the bias in the search results, which I thought would be impossible. How could you you just can't turn off bias. I have since learned through documents from the company that were that were taken out of the company. I've learned from a whistleblower that in fact, they can turn bias on and off, like flipping a light switch. That is a quote from Zack Vorhees.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Who's Zack for he's

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

as the Google whistleblower? Oh, of course, you haven't heard of him know. Me Google and get you on your level get any more traffic from Google?

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Let me Google him. doesn't show up. I use cognitions. And

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

show you Yeah, no, this is a corrupt situation. completely out of control pond, and nobody cares. This is like, Oh, whatever. You know, okay. Well, Biden, if he gets in again, so what is he won't last that long and Kamla would be the president. That's what everybody wants? Well be a break. Well,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

we're gonna go down with the I don't care who it is, as long as it's first of all, let's just stop pretending that it matters. Donald Trump is not going to save everybody, right? daddio is not going to fix all your problems in your town, or your city. That's got to come from the people. You know, people got to get into the into the ring. I'm not going to works. tripping out memes. I thought CNN did an interesting job of solidifying the Donald Trump is going to destroy our democracy.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Which now? I think Do you think they'd get off that for no track? No doing it? Oh,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

it's a double down now to double down because there is an even when you hear this piece from CNN, and this is this British dude who, for somehow he covers Trump, for CNN, because I know maybe he's not seen as offensive to Trump voters. And he so he goes into a Trump rally. And of course, it's a man on the street. So the Hello, easy to pick out the two weak sisters of the bunch. But then it's it's intercut with an interview with our favorite Anne Applebaum. So listen to

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this. One thing we've been hearing at Trump rallies like this over the past few months is that America isn't really a democracy. America's not a democracy. That's against not a democracy. Okay, democracy is actually not as good as you think it is. But for centuries, America has celebrated its democracy. Democracy is worth dying for democracy remains the definition of political legitimacy. But some Republicans and pro Trump media are pushing the idea that America is not a democracy.

United States of America is not a democracy. We are a constitutional republic, United States of America is not a democracy. If you don't want to be in a democracy. We are not a democracy. We are a republic. Is America a democracy? America is a democracy. It was founded as a democracy. I've heard a lot of conspiracy theories. I hear a lot of things, conspiracy theories out on the road. But theory, oh, wait to hear Americans, people who would describe themselves as patriots,

who say that America is not a democracy. That stopped me in my tracks. You are hearing people say America is not a democracy, because there are people around Trump who want them to be saying that who've been planting that narrative. Is America democracy. I don't I think well not wearing our republic. What's the difference? I feel like democracy. Through government. I don't see freedom and democracy I see freedom. Honestly, the word democracy and

the word Republic have often been used interchangeably. There isn't a meaningful difference between them. So much of the warnings and criticism about Trump is that he is a threat to democracy that he is anti democratic. Absolutely. If they can convince people that we don't have a democracy, then it's okay that Trump is attacking democracy because it doesn't really matter. So

Adam CurryAdam Curry

the strongest part of that piece is of course having Reagan and Bush Talk about our democracy. How do we square that with saying we don't have a democracy?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Well, that was they were Reagan and Bush. Were doing the same thing that the Democrats do, which is call everything a democracy when it's a constitutional republic, which is what it is. And it's not a conspiracy. That's what it is what it is conspiracy theory, conspiracy theory, we don't even do direct voting for the President, even though I think they would love that. But we don't we have the Electoral College in between as a buffer as a shim.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Well, so So this, but this is kind of the messaging and you know, so yeah, I'm sure Google will surface this type of stuff. That Constitutional Republic is a conspiracy theory. Look at Reagan. Great boy. Yeah. Well, it was well done. And then of course, we also need to attack flags, flags, as flags are so important. I mean, throughout history, flags are a big deal. And who better to ask all

cultures? Yes. And who better to ask about flag gates. This is a Supreme Court, Justice Alito, whose wife flew the upside the American flag upside down international sign of distress, and also raised the pine pine tree flag, which is the so called appeal to heaven flag. And let's ask Mayor Pete, because there's nothing better than a McKinsey graduate McKinsey alum to ask about these important questions.

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There was a secret recording made at a meeting where many Supreme Court justices and their spouses were and Martha AnnaLena, the wife of Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito, was discussing how she feels about apparently a pride flag that says, Listen, I want a Sacred Heart of Jesus flag, because I have to look across the lagoon at the pride flag.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Did you hear that? She says she wants a Sacred Heart of Jesus flag. So I'll make sure you heard that because it's I did not hear that. Yeah, that's what she say this is that horrible undercover recording? From the woman who believes in the mother of Gaia, from California Gaia woman, the guy or woman? Yes, worshipping earth like any good pagan would that was flown off

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

pagan pagans do.

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I want a Sacred Heart of Jesus flag, because I have to look across the lagoon at the pride flag for the next month. And he's like, Oh, please don't put up a flag. I said, I won't do it. Because I'm deferring to you. But when you are free of this nonsense, I'm putting it up. And I'm gonna send them a message every day. How does that make you feel knowing that the wife of a Supreme Court justice, wants to send a message to people with a pride flag?

Look, I'm often reminded that the most important thing in my life, which is my marriage, and my family, and the two beautiful children that my husband Chaston and I are raising that that marriage only exists by the grace of a single vote on the United States Supreme Court that expanded our rights and freedoms back in 2015, and made it possible for Edie

Adam CurryAdam Curry

expanded his rights and freedoms. You see it, he has expanded his rights and freedoms because he's so suppressed, that

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expanded our rights and freedoms back in 2015, and made it possible for somebody like me to get married. And, you know, Supreme Court justices have an unbelievable amount of power. And, and by the nature in the structure, the Supreme Court, there's no supervision over that power. They're entrusted with it

literally for as long as they live. And part of that trust is we expect them to enter into those enormously consequential decisions that that shape our everyday lives, with a sense of fairness, I also hope that most Americans can understand the difference between a flag that symbolizes you know, love and acceptance and signals to people who have sometimes feared for their safety that they're going to be okay. And insurrectionists symbology

Adam CurryAdam Curry

No, there it is. There it is Trump

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

but they said something in there he says about you know, I wish I could put remember what is exact phrase was but it seems to me that for one thing, I think, the same Democrats who are extolling the virtues of women and giving the and empowering them to have a Leo's wife who's got nothing she's not on the Supreme Court. I hate to mention this to you though she's not on there doing anything. So what she got to do it decisive with this

Adam CurryAdam Curry

price. Price? Yes.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

It's just ridiculous. And then what is he supposed to be told Shut up woman. Get into the kitchen I mean, what what exactly are they? Are they angling for here? They can have a mixed message?

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Well, I think the again, it's comes down to the same thing. The whole point is to associate flags, American flags. Faith flags to equate that with insurrectionists ie Trump. That's the whole point. Yes,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

that was a poorly made point. And I should just mention something as an aside. So this weekend on catchy TV or whatever it is one of the over the air channels. They've had a 24/7 marathon of laughing shows from 68. Goldie Hawn, he went on to believe she was one of the many cast members. And they were bitching about this. It was a very political show, you don't realize that most of the issues were this are today's issues. And this is from ninth this last show. I was watching the dad had

this thing in 1971 show. They were bitching about the Supreme Court? No, of course, of course, literally. Because at the time the Supreme Court was somewhat liberal. And this was the era of bumper stickers that said, you know, impeach Earl Warren, who was a Reuters Republican governor of California, Republican governor of California, but he was a very liberal, Supreme Court justice. And the right wing was going nuts over zero Warren's impeach Earl Warren. And this was kind of reflected in the

Adam CurryAdam Curry

print. But in those days, we had three television channels and no YouTube. And and no, Google.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

No, but the complaining was the same. Well, there's always people have been bitching and moaning about the Supreme Court from the get go, and it's just like, Okay, give it a rest. And now they're complaining about the Supreme Court justices wives that was not in play back in the day.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Well, now we have also not in the play back in the day was media organization taking down other media organizations. I don't think that that was considered ungentlemanly. unsportsmanlike,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

was the same thing with writers. writers would never condemn other writers and, yeah, that's true. It was, it was. It was unwritten, unwritten code. Yes.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

So you've probably heard that the I think the owner of epic times, or the I think the financial guy, someone's in trouble.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

He was a money guy, CFO,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I think, yeah, the money guy got arrested for I haven't looked into it. But okay, whatever. But that's not what this is about. No, no, no, no. I mean, we know the epic times were in fact, I would say we've used lots of material from Epic times, because they're reporting at least isn't your typical political base reporting. Would you say that's Is that a fair statement, I

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

think is much more objective than the mainstream media. Object newspapers.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Yeah, well, you're wrong. Here's NBC. NBC is reporting.

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The Epoch Times is a conservative news outlet. They have newspapers, and they have a website. And what you'll see is very pro, Trump conservative, ultra conservative content. It's come up in 2016 as a real player in the conservative ecosystem. Before then it was really known as just a Chinese language newspaper that was associated with Falun Gong, and Falun Gong, it's a movement. It's a religious spiritual movement. That's headed by a man named Master Li Hong Xiu, Master Li,

lives in Dragon Springs, New York. He lives and he is the head of this religion. So all the people in this religion

Adam CurryAdam Curry

pagine I know oh, by the way, you get the this is the I know she's a millennial, she may be z. And they get her to do this piece with her fry and her up talk and then yes, it's fallen go bed, his bed about and that but following Gong explained following Gong before we continue with this, there

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

was a bunch of these I actually had a little exposition about this for some years back and I don't have all of it at the tip of my tongue, but it was part of a there was a bunch of these movements, these meditative movement

Adam CurryAdam Curry

isn't yoga or something. It was kind of like a yoga but she does. She does go into that later and fall

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

on Gong was the one that became the most successful and it became they the Chinese government felt it was politicizing itself and becoming a voting bloc or of block that could cause trouble down the road. So it was banned. Now there can all of it was foul on Gong, the fact there was a bunch of these following F al U ns. And it was just one of many. And it became the last one man standing and it became cutting

as controversial and all kinds of different directions. And it's very but it's but I'd say it is based at this point in history. It's anti Chinese. No, no,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

no, they're pro Trump. You've got it all wrong man is pro Trump. Bring out the Gen Z here.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

By the way the Falun Gong cares nothing about Trump you are okay so

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wrong is that the head of this religion? So all the people in this religion have their time at one of the media arms now there's the Epoch Times. That's the newspaper. And then there is NDTV and that's the television component or video component.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Yes. And T D.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

She said no, no, no, no, no, no, she's NDTV is what she says. But it's no NTD is not is not a part of epic times isn't NTD No, she says in NDTV. She says she's wrong.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

It's not NDTV. She's talking about anti D which is part of the epoch

Adam CurryAdam Curry

about NDTV. NDTV that's a real thing. NDTV she's not talking about NTD.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Okay, yeah, there is something else NDTV I'd like yeah, no, I'll check it out. Yeah,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

yeah, you can't on that machine. But believe me, and I can

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I got a browser here. I just don't don't have Twitter. We'll go to Google. They'll

Adam CurryAdam Curry

tell you to vote for Biden, that

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newspaper. And then there is the TV and that's the television component and the video component. And then there's Shen Yun, and Shin Eun, if you've seen the ubiquitous advertisements everywhere, it's a traditional Chinese dance troupe with a very anti communist China message. The whole point of all of this anti communist

Adam CurryAdam Curry

dance must go pro Trump.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

That again she she made she's now there is no such thing as in dt. NDTV

Adam CurryAdam Curry

is what she said. She said no, I put these clips together myself. And

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

she said she's wrong. She's not it's N T D?

Adam CurryAdam Curry

No. Go to ndtv.com John, okay,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

you are wrong. And you're gonna get away like I'm doing I'm going to actually go on the browser crazy

Adam CurryAdam Curry

thought man crazy. While you're at it, look at that cool PCR machine from the meet up China

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message. So the whole point of all of these things, whether it's Epoch Times, or Shen Yun is to relay this message that the end of the world is coming. If you are aligned with communism, you will go to a sort of hell. And if you are not wanting to communism, if you align yourself with Falun Gong than you will be spared and you will go to heaven. So it's a sort of an apocalyptic sort of cult, not unlike a lot of religions. But what's interesting is that they're

using their money to really back Trump. They're using

Adam CurryAdam Curry

their money to back Trump. You are so wrong. I'm sorry. He's just wrong on all fronts on this one. So

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

here's the other one. NDTV Yes, sir New Delhi television out of India. NDTV meaning N T D.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

But isn't NTV the New Tang Dynasty?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Yeah, New Tang Dynasty is part of following Gong.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Well, this is an outrage. She can't

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

even get her story straight, let alone you getting it straight. And in defending her.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I'm defending what she said. She said NDTV That's what I said. Yeah.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

So Delhi television is not a follow on cog operation. Okay. Sure. You wait,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

but wait, let's continue because it's still the all they're doing. They only exist to be pro Trump. This is the story.

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And they're aligning themselves with evangelicals. And just you know, conservatives on the, you

Adam CurryAdam Curry

know, it's interesting pastor Jimmy just just handed out epic times at church the other day, like, thanks. Yeah, oh, the evangelicals are all in with Falun Gong,

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and they're aligning themselves with Evangelicals, and just, you know, conservatives on the internet to really push a pro Trump method that really seems to be working they have gone from a really it's working or no

Adam CurryAdam Curry

mucking about. It's working just so you know, it's working. The whole point is to discredit and epic times it's they're taking down another news organizations Oh,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

they're just at you know, you're just asking for trouble. This is ridiculous report. This woman should be ashamed. Better,

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we fledgling newspaper where no one was really reading it, it cost $1 Sometimes it was free on the

Adam CurryAdam Curry

students was crazy. A news organization, it only costs $1. I mean, how can you pay salaries,

Unknown

and now they are everywhere here. senior editors were in Trump Tower earlier this year interviewing Laura Trump. They're interviewing congressman, celebrities kind

Adam CurryAdam Curry

of funny though, because, you know, they're against communism, you know, like Trump is bloodmeal what is Biden then?

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Me is like, you know, diamond and silk. Oh, no,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

diamond and silk. Oh, they're really poor. All this stuff. So pro Trump, Candace Owens

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and Ted Cruz. They're really Coming up in the conservative movement, and it's important to know who's behind this, you know, something else they've done that's really interesting lately and why we started looking at them is they started buying Facebook ads, they've spent $1.5 million on 11,000 Facebook ads this year alone. And all of the ads are very pro. They also push a conspiratorial message and following Gong itself is really interesting because it started

in the 1990s. It started in China. And it was headed by Master Li and Master Li sort of came up with this new practice. It was a little bit of mysticism, a little bit of Buddhism, a little bit of yoga. And so what he did is he made this process as some one expert described to me, he made this process of meditation, and Transcendentalism really, really simple. So there are five exercises, you know, people

older people could do them in the park. You see them all around New York City doing the exercises now, and it was really easy. But it also came with some pretty out there ideas.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Out there ideas she's talking about people doing in the park is was What is it where you're

Adam CurryAdam Curry

playing Frisbee, playing Frisbee? No, no.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

No, you know that the the Chinese exercise, which is a slow motion, kung Tai Chi is a tai chi. Yeah, yeah, that's what they're doing in the park. You're not sitting around meditating. I mean, this is, by the way, it's not that much different that meditation technique. They're using then Transcendental Meditation, which was a big thing with the liberals,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

which you can see on NDTV from India.

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or Yes, yes.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I got one more clip here. It's just it was it's just what this is what the whole idea is, is to continuously to continuously just propagandize people and it's the same message over and over again. Conspiracy Theory, pro Trump. Ruining democracy, conspiracy theory, pro Trump ruining democracy with an ultra

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conservative worldview behind Falun Gong, so they don't support gay people.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

They are I don't support gay people. Oh, now you're in trouble Falun Gong, is that true? Do they are they are they are they haters? Are they never heard the gays? Well, they don't support the fact

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

that they have anything to do as Shin Jung, if you haven't seen I mean, I haven't seen that presentation. But just looking at the commercials for it is that if that's not gay, I don't know what

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people they are anti pop music. They don't they hate pop music part feminism. They rail against any sort of like modernism, I mean, part of their their motto is traditionalism. It's also important to know that in China, they were banned in the 90s Because China didn't like the fact that they were becoming so popular.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Why is that important to know is the question, it's important to know that China banned, banned and

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so they imprisoned some of their people of their followers. And human rights organizations say that they tortured and killed many so masterly brought his followers here. He moved here himself, and he lives in New York. And what he does is he runs a commie in the air with many followers, they believe things that former practitioners have told us are unsettling. So one of them is, you know, the aliens are real.

One is that they discourage the taking of medicine, because masterly has taught that sickness is caused by some sort of evil inside of you, and then it can fall and gone. Are you

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

seen anything like that in my life? Why is she going to go into the Christian? What was which is the group that refuses to take anything whatsoever Amish should decide? As a Christian, what's the name of that group?

Adam CurryAdam Curry

There's only 30 seconds left. So I don't think so

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masterly has taught that sickness is caused by some sort of evil inside of you, and then it can, Falun Gong can cure you of that. So, you know, these are all things that we've heard, but the overarching

Adam CurryAdam Curry

music bed is kind of interesting. What that shows is kind of a Ping Pong Pong, kind of like a, like an Asian wind chime. Long, long, long AI. Background music, Chinese ping pong. On

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contrary, you have that. So, you know, these are all things that we've heard. But the overarching narrative is that, you know, Falun Gong believers believe that we are headed toward a judgement day where communists and non

communist will be pitted against each other. So all of these outreach efforts, whether it's Epoch Times, or Shin Eun or NDTV are all out there to sort of save the souls of sentient beings they say this is all an effort to not only you know when your soul not only you know when to vote for Donald Trump, but also you know, to save the world.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Hope young you know They should be ashamed of themselves for putting their money. She keeps saying NDTV by the way. Yeah, right to the end. So she's clueless. That is a shameful report.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Yeah,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I hope you're bigoted. It's a bigoted, shameful anti. Okay, while she's like doing the bidding of the Chinese Communist parties, yes.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Quite possibly. Well, I'll just wrap up my my media overview with the two more topics. And the first one is, of course, Alex Jones. We have an update on cars Friday, he was in court for me to determine what will happen with Infowars. I actually got a call from sort of Lucifer who works there. And he was yeah, he says the the mood is not great. There's the ice 55 zero people working there. People who've worked with him there for 15 years. And 55 people you said 5050 people?

Five D? Yeah. five zeros. A lot of people. Big operation. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's I think it's gonna end here. This

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is an attempt at Digital assassination. conspiracy theorist Alex Jones was defiant in front of a federal courthouse today, vowing that the government may shut him down, but they won't shut him up. This is probably the end of Infowars a federal judge in Houston ordered Jones to liquidate his personal assets, worth an estimated four to $6 million to start paying the Sandy Hook families the $1.5 billion in defamation damages he owes them the decision will also

force Jones to auction off his jewelry and gun collection. An attorney for Jones said $2 million is already sitting in escrow for the families. After Jones sold the Texas ranch Marlin court. Another episode of the Alex Jones Show aired on infowars.com the platform where Jones spread his conspiracy theories, the judge ruled that the company doesn't have to liquidate its assets, but that Jones will not control the

money. The whole thing of the giant courts in both Texas and Connecticut found Jones liable for defamation after he called the attack fake a hoax and called grieving parents crisis actors for Robbie Parker, whose daughter Emily was one of the 20 students killed at Sandy Hook in 2012. This case is not about money. But accountabilities the reason that accountability is important for me is because that's part of the healing process.

The hearing comes the same week, the survivors of the Sandy Hook massacre graduate from high school former classmates wore green and white pins to honor their memory, a memory Parker hopes never fades,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

some of the communications between the families have been just very beautiful. And so it is touching and it is emotional. Now this is obviously to send a message and I gotta tell you, from my from my money message received message received 1.1 $1.4 billion in a libel suit. Wow. So so it seems like he'll be able to continue somehow. Well,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

he's already know he's got his. Okay, so he's going to lose everything. Let's take it what's gonna happen? The worst case scenario, he loses everything, they auction off all his stuff, they auction off everything he owns. And he's got a gun collection, whatever that is, and the rest of the coins, like gold coins, challenge coins, eggs, some challenge because it's all gone. Got nothing left. This is the internet era, he can start up over? No,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

but I think I think that he will have to continue giving. They can take the money he makes in the future, too.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I think that's probably true. But it would be on a payment schedule. So it'd be like, like buying a car, you'd have to keep paying month after month. But he is also bankruptcy issues here that he you should be able to get out of some of this. And I mean, that's what the news video is does it go bankrupt or somebody Sue's them within an inch of their life. And so he's he's got he knows how to do this. He knows the business, he can start up from scratch and build it up

rather quickly. He knows all the vitamin people that he can get the product from he just changed the name of the product. And he could also do stuff through third parties. There's a lot of ways he can go. He's not an old guy who's just oh, well, whatever. I'm gonna go retire. No, he's got plenty of have. He knows what he's doing at this point in terms of making money for himself and his president. He'll hire probably most of those people back.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I am so grateful for you. Why? Because throughout the past set a well Good question, but there is a reason throughout the past 17 years. You have always been protected the show and probably more me by jumping in if I said something completely libelous, and then you would correct me, so that it was clear that we were correcting that. Because it just goes to show you you got to be careful.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

You do have to be careful. And I will tell you my background on that is that when I wrote The with Adam Osborn, I wrote a book called hyper growth. And Adam was freaked out about getting sued, because he was saying some nasty stuff about very CEOs. And so we went into a libel lawyer's office and spent the day and pretty much I learned pretty much everything you need to know from a practical perspective on how not

to libel or slander people. And I've been complimented in some, in one case by a publisher who says, you know, you can call somebody an asshole 10 different ways, but never really say it. And that's kind of the key. And yes, well, thank you. I am constantly I know it was drummed into me, but I'm very aware of this problem. Yes. No, thank you. Easily labeling somebody.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Yeah. Yeah. Because people out there crazy. The courts are crazy.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Crazy. For one thing, you can't call somebody a crook. Yeah, that's the that's the one of the key that you just can't say. Any, you know, if they haven't been convicted of a crime, you can't call them a criminal

Adam CurryAdam Curry

unless you really bless your trump. You've Trump you can call him your trump.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Call him anything. Anything you want. Yeah. Well, there are differences people left and right to Well, there are differences.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Your kids are in the public eye, which is like this kind of gray area. You can say horrible things about people who are in the public eye. There's there's a gray area in tort law.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

But Jones has always been up cross crosses the line a lot. I listen to him. I mean, I listen to him. We have

Adam CurryAdam Curry

a troll trainee. Janee says I want to call Mimi a crook. Too many egg too many eggs stole my heart. Ah. Isn't that cute? All the

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

art in that book is from public domain sources that are at least 100 years old. Give me a brainless year old woman.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

The final series of clips I have here is very unexciting. But the information is detailed. It's from Reuters. Reuters. There's no reason you have to be boring. And this is the Pentagon's psychological operation against Chinese with anti Vax messaging if you follow that.

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Yep, Reuters has uncovered a secret anti Vax campaign run by the Pentagon to undermine China during the pandemic. despite objections from top diplomats, the US military engaged in clandestine propaganda about COVID vaccines that public health experts say is indefensible. An aspect of military that many people don't realize or don't know about is it the military controls a large network of fake social media accounts, and other online profiles, which it can

use to influence foreign adversaries. In this case, they were using a mixture of social media accounts on various platforms, including Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, and several foreign language, social media platforms, popular in Central Asia. So the message is typically focused on this idea that foreign audiences should not trust Chinese pandemic aid. So it would say that their face masks that they were donating

were fake. They would say that the test kits that they were providing didn't work, they would say that the vaccines were ineffective, not real. I think the most surprising message that we saw was that they were pushing this idea that Chinese COVID vaccines in particular sin, evac contained a pork derivative, because where that message was targeted, was in Central Asia among Muslim majority countries.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Now the funny thing is, I remember some of those stories. Yeah, I

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

do, too. And yeah, this was by the way, you didn't get to see because you're traveling. But this this was written up in the newsletter.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Oh, no, I didn't see that. No, you're right. Well, I have two more pieces to this. What I just found interesting is, of course, this never mentioned in this report is Smith Mundt. Which does not allow our government to Well originally did not allow our government to propagandize our own people. Although it's kind of mentioned in there that was later repealed in the National Defense Authorization Act under

Obama. But of course, there's B and the reason was was the internet you know, we might spill over but I remember these quite vividly. During COVID, how did this campaign begin?

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There was growing interest in increasing the US as use of clandestine propaganda and influence operations following the 2016 election.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

How about that's interesting, when

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Russian intelligence operatives ran a hack and leak to influence American voters? Has

Adam CurryAdam Curry

that ever been proven anywhere, no hack and

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

for those Hokey Pokey as it were in Facebook, they spent $100,000 in ad has

Adam CurryAdam Curry

hack and leak. Okay,

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hack, there was already support and interest in this area that going years later in 2019. Policies are instituted through Congress, and also within the Defense Department that lessened the approval process and made it easier to run these types of missions globally, even outside of defined war zones. With the COVID pandemic erupting in 2020. The military looks to employ these tactics, while State

Department officials voiced caution. Diplomats argued that it was not the right time during a pandemic, to spread fear through propaganda because of the ramifications. Nonetheless, the military continued their operations until at least summer of 2021. So

Adam CurryAdam Curry

when I hear this, all I can think of is, well of course they did that because perhaps the whole COVID thing was a military operation to begin with, including operation warp speed. I mean, why else? Why else would they do that?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

There was one thing you're not gonna get in this report, which was in the newsletter, which is the is the is the phrase that we're using over and over again, which is China. China develop develop the China is responsible for the for the COVID. China's does its own vaccines. Don't trust China? There was this don't trust China meme that they were putting out and I just thought it was right up our alley, because we've been saying using that old don't trust China. Clip forever.

Donald Trump don't trust China, China is as home

Adam CurryAdam Curry

so we're part of the military SIOP campaign, I guess, unwittingly well, actually adulterous. Unwittingly, unwittingly, we were.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I think we've heard of a lot of stuff unwittingly. But

Adam CurryAdam Curry

wait, you one of your favorite code words is in this last clip. And

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so how did it end? The influence operation began in early 2020 with the spread of the Coronavirus and ran through the Trump administration. But it also continued through the beginning of the Biden administration. In January of the Biden administration. When they first came into office. They were notified by social media companies who were dismayed by what they found. They had independently noticed that the military was conducting these operations through fake

accounts on their platforms. And they told the Biden administration that they'd seen evidence of the military spreading COVID misinformation. The White House and the National Security Council issued a ban internally on messaging by the military on vaccines, but we continue to see the operation active until later that spring into the early summer. The US military is prohibited from targeting Americans with propaganda, and Reuters found no evidence that the Pentagon's

influence operation. Pentagon spokeswoman said the US military does use platforms including social media to counter malign influence attacks aimed at the US. And she noted that China had started a quote, disinformation campaign to falsely blame the United States for the spread of COVID 19. Trump and Biden spokespeople did not respond to requests for comment.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

What are they gonna say

Adam CurryAdam Curry

this whole things I mean, while they were deep platforming people, citizens doctors,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

for so called COVID Ostersund per COVID disinformation.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

At the same time, they're just the our own government is SIOP in China, and then China sigh up things back, like Oh, whoa, no, didn't start here. This whole thing now smells like one big military defense department, opera, the whole COVID thing. And it makes sense with warp speed

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

will also make sense with some of the clips coming floating around that about showing people that had the vaccine already in the in the key Yeah,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

in 2019.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

So there's, well, we're talking about this sort of thing. You also die. We're getting the blowback.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Mmm hmm. We got to take a break, John.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I'm just telling you daftar these two clips would be perfect. Okay. These are Ryan Cole, a epidemiologist that was floated around some, I think they caught him at a, at a county fair giving a speech. And so they decided to get a couple of licks in. And these are very funny. Well, and they're not funny by any means, but they're horrible. stories he tells you about was Ryan Cole, who was Ryan Gleason epidemiologist as floating around the country giving speeches about how bad

this vaccine was. Target is what he is. He's another one of those guys at Target.

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Dr. Cole, what in your opinion, was the greatest crime during COVID?

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Sounds like a Dutch guy, by the way,

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the truth died. We were lied to by governments who were taken advantage of by intelligence agencies, we were taken advantage of by Departments of Defense. And the people were lied to that's the truth in science died. What do you see, in the aftermath of the mRNA shots? I think the biggest problem we're going to be fighting for a long time is chronic autoimmune disease. These injections were contaminated with DNA. They were made with us instead of

synthetic RNA. And they weren't just making spike proteins, they were making Frankenstein proteins as well. And when the immune system is exposed to proteins that it's not supposed to see, then it starts to go haywire. So certainly, we've seen some excess sudden death. And we've seen death from all causes increased around the world after the rollout of these genetic injections that were never a vaccine. They were

experimental genetic injections. And so a lot of autoimmune disease for a long time and decreased fertility rates we're already seeing in many countries around the world. And what I noticed early on was we're seeing a lot of runaway turbo cancers. And I think we're going to continue to see that and sadly,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

yeah, Bloomberg had a story this morning. Why is everyone getting sick?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Hmm. Okay, Milton's finally out of the ice. Well, yeah, we were terrible cancer.

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We were pelted with the Kate Middleton just on and on and on. Well, so is the Charles he's also got to you guys, but cancer. But I think so allegedly, to make sure we don't get sued by the Windsors. Alright, is that Julie's the right way? Oh, so Ryan, Ryan is doing county fairs?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Yeah, this is where you This is where these guys are at? Yeah, county fairs. Good on

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him. And he's in the arena.

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These weren't what they were advertised to be. They were never a vaccine. And the lesson here, I think, is that we should never, as a population ever use synthetic RNA, or genetic injections ever again. Right? Was that a big accident? Or I know did the people know what they were doing? Who made those vaccines and peddle them on us? The powers that be it was a big money game for them. And they made up a false emergency. SARS cov. Two was never an emergency

for 99.9% of the population. So they used it as an opportunity to test out their, quote, new technology that they've been tinkering with and always failing with, and they rolled it out onto humanity. Like I said, from the stage here, they would make Mengele blush in terms of human experimentation. This was a horrendous breach of human rights around the world. destroyed lives destroyed businesses put more people into

poverty. This entire couple of years has been history will look back and hopefully these people will be shown to be shameful like they weren't. That's right.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Yes, we will have sub stacks to look back on this history.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

And depth for this section section, the B block with a C block with a uplifting, little message

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very uplifting, by the way, apparently substack just for your information being a sub stacker they've gone woke and they say now you're that What are you categorized in on on the sub stack? crackpot there you go and with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage in the morning to you the man who put the sea he just did it in crackpot but also in cobalt from Ukraine. Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one and only Mr. John Cena.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Well, in the morning, you'll miss your morning, boots in the ground feet in the air subs in the water all the days and nights out

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there in the morning to the trolls and the troll. It's Father's Day Of course. We had previous Sunday we had 1989. Today we have 1618 That's kind of to be expected. People are hanging out with their dads they're not donating for their dads. But they aren't hanging out with their dads. Although there's a couple I saw a couple of Father's Day donations. We we

want you to join the trolls. I have not pointed troll room.io at the new website that Tim Sir Tim made code monkey, which is no agenda dot stream it is really good, very pretty very fast, very handy. So much better than that that temporary page I've had up there for oh, I don't know, 10 years. So we appreciate that. So no agenda dot stream and I will point troll room.io at it because that's where you can hang out with. Well, let's face it more than one and a half 1000 Trolls

that's not bad. They're all listening live. They do it every Thursday and Wednesday. Of course we do the show live no matter where we are in the world whenever we can we bring it to you live, we do it live with the accompaniment from John Cena vortex noisemakers and drums. And you can also enjoy this on a modern podcast app, try fountain fountain will immediately give you an alert when we go live. Or if you can't listen to us live when the show was published 90 seconds later, boom, it's up

there. And of course, you get all the extra bells and whistles including the chapters, transcripts, you'd like the transcripts, you can read along with the transcript. A lot of people listen to the show for English as a second language. So I'm actually some people come up to me and say, you know, I really learned English by listening to you guys at the meetup yesterday. I know. It's kind of a sad thought. But there it is joking.

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There's probably probably

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in October, we'll be celebrating 17 years, 17 years and what a what a ride. It's been people want us to go for for more, we're hanging in there. But remember, it's hard to do this work. It's a grind. It's really takes a lot of grit. And you know, we're doing it for you. And we can't do it without producers. You heard we've got producers who are experts in

every single field that you can imagine. They've been carefully trained throughout almost two decades, to always send us information if they have it not think Oh, Adam and John won't read it. Because we will. And we always take that information gladly is very, very useful. You heard this or Tim does the websites for us who got void zero. Everybody a little bit of hardcoat health karma and prayers for void he's not feeling too well. Particularly on Father's Day happened. Yes.

Some gasoline gastro issues. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I'll make flu. No, no, it's a little worse than that.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

He'll live ulcer.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

It's not groovy. It's not it's not Oprah level, but it's not great.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

You know, when, if Oprah is going to make it? You

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know, we'll get to that later. Also, we have to talk about the new pandemic on the horizon. We'll do that right after the break. There's a tease for you, because they're really pushing it really really pushing it. And of course we have our artists artists who use no agenda art generator.com I met to one of our great Dutch masters Taunton, Neil at at the meetup in here in Amsterdam yesterday. Of course that all appears on no agenda are generated are calm, which Sir

Paul put together. I mean, really? We do have an amazing community. Just look at the meetups by themselves. People getting together. Yes.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

So what When did she meet you before you said, Oh, I was a kid. Yes, he

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was a kid. Yeah, she was a she was a teen. And she gave me a, a, a beautiful, it's not really a scrapbook. It's a produced book, which has scrapbook pages, but it's not the actual scraps. It's all photocopied. And she put it into a book and it's bound. And it's, I mean, it's beautiful. It is it is a lot of a lot of my story. Certainly the days in the Netherlands. She wrote me an eight page handwritten letter, which was just fantastic. It was just great. It was great to meet

her again. It was great to hang out with her.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Do you remember meeting her the first time? Absolutely not.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

But I've I've seen the picture. And you know, and I can't even remember the event. I'm like, what, what what what was that about? I have no idea. I have no idea. lost

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to history. But she you know,

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she has followed my radio career and that inspired her to get into radio. She actually studied broadcasting communications in the States for a year. And then she became a video editor. She's one of the first video editors on Big Brother when the show first started to Dutch production when first started here. And she I guess she was listening for quite a number of years and never really wanted to send in

any art even though she has talent. And I think some of her early work never got chosen if I remember the eight pages correctly. And then she says and I feel figured it out. I figured out well She sure did. What is she on the ranking right now? She's gonna be up

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there. Let's take a look at the leaderboards Adam. Meanwhile,

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while you're doing that

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

the artwork was number six. Oh, I

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thought she was higher than that. Now, number one is nicked a rat. This is all time or just or this year. This is all time all time. How about from this year? Can you look that up?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I got to roll I can do six months rolling. Rolling six

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month average. Yes.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

She stirred. Oh,

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I'm telling she's she's a Dutch master. For episode 1668 We could have used some of her Dutch mastery we we kind of went with the best one. We titled that one spill over and this was the the yard sign the political yard sign, which said rug pulled 2024 Make Trump deal with a corrector record. Another Dutch master came in with that one. Let me take a look. I know we were we weren't very satisfied with the offering. And we're not saying that to be mean or anything. We're just usually the

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fault of the show. I would give it to defend the artists if we don't have any triggering Yeah, commentary, though. We did but it wasn't good. I can't do the art. So

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we had the you know, this is hard. This is a grind which was a funny bid on the show with Meghan McCain. And so they picked that one up. But yeah, that's no good. That's

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no good. The other one is intent. And Neil your friend, it kind of blew up her idea. I mean, she had the idea listening to you, but then I you sent me the art the actual picture that girls in the in the Apple presentation. Oh, yeah, this is? It was a joke. Yeah, yeah. There was huge stove pipe jeans there. Were there a denim with sandals. They look like hell. And they're a high whatnot or your high water. Like you'd like to put an old phrase? Yes. But they're always high. high

waisted. Yeah. So you look like a complete idiot on the stage. And so

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I show that to Tina. You know what she says? Yep, that's the fashion the girls are wearing these days.

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Well, good luck.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

That's what I said. Well, yeah, there'll

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

be attractive. The other girls wearing the same outfit. That's for sure. That's which I think I said

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at Taunton, Neil did did put in the Shula discs from the game, which was at the meetup, the the Dutch shuffleboard. Yeah, I actually liked that piece. It was a good piece, but we didn't think anyone would get it. Now the Dutch might get it, but there was. I don't know. Do you think we should have chosen that one?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

In hindsight, no.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Okay. But we appreciate the work of all of the artists, the show would not be as successful without you. There's no doubt about it. No doubt about it. And we appreciate it. You can they're doing this live. So while while we're talking they will be uploading art to nogen art generator.com. Of course a tip for you new artists typically on days like Mother's Day, Father's Day, Christmas Easter, we tend to go traditional. We're always looking for something with an edge but we tend to go traditional.

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So if you can combine traditional with an edge deals, there's your winner, there's your winner.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Now for the so we all we ask for in return is that if you get any value from the show, you know do something back for the show. hit someone in the mouth, we asked for time, talent treasure, you can give us a boots on the ground report. You can organize a meet up you can send us your treasure. What I'd like to do is since there were so many executive and Associate Executive producers who handed on the spot donations, I'll I'll do these now. I should just do everybody real quick. I wrote it

all down. Because I'm not shuffling through notes. Before we then get to the rest of our executive and Associate Executive Producer. That sounds okay by you. Yeah, it's fine. Okay. I'm just asking like a little meeting on the side little sidebar. So we had the raffle that this is something that's started at these meetups. It's, it's interesting where there's a raffle and everybody puts some donation money into the pot. There were a lot of people there so the pot equaled

389 euros and that was won by a Sebastiana sticker. And he's from taste your favorite spot. And so he will be listed as an executive producer today. He wants no jingles no karma. Then we had him Jacobina dame of the of the doomsday Demers I think it is and was hard to read. She gave us a nice card. And 360 euros all this was cash by the way a couple of people gave us

some actual American money. Kyra lien may see deer number $100 in cash and that's towards her Day a day mode also for her birthday, which was June 5, and she says thanks for keeping her saying. Chantel writes My 50 euros and she wants to deducing almost second.

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Can you spend de duced

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rumbled Roberts hustle Brink 50 euros and a $5 note and very important a KLM dei pen, which is actually one of the most interesting things I received. It literally says diversity and inclusion on the pen. I think it's a collector's item.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I think so too.

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Now, I'm not sure who gave me the no agenda monkey and I forget who gave me the Jesus t shirt. But thank you for that. We got to forever be 12 plus pillboxes from one of our producers. I'll be sending that to you, John. That'll keep us alert and alive forever. God is a matinee made music T shirts. No runners pin. Then we had shady character 33 200 euros so Associate Executive Producer, and he has some Oh yes, some viral viral medical books that he wants added to the no agenda

books list. We'll do that. No jingles no karma. Sir. Rome, Nolan 200 euros Edna Hema envelope, which was a nice touch switch roofers deemed to be Bianca Bianchini and he has been hitting her in the mouth for 10 years. And finally she started listening. No jingles no karma. serpents. 200 euros plus 33. American sense. You want to double up karma. You got that form. You've got karma. And so that's Associate Executive Producer his sister Kim gave us 333 euros and 33 cents or full

on executive producer ship. She lives in Portugal. She wants to do you spend deed deuced and she rents out holiday homes in benna Gil in the Algarve in Portugal. If you mentioned no agenda while renting one you get a free bottle of champagne. Then, very interesting. Amit, the Israel Israel lander. Amit is so he's Israeli. And I mean, he's so Israeli. John, he's Mossad. Now you should have said how Israeli is he? How Israeli is he? He's

so Israeli. If you put on a black hat and some curly Q's, he could sell diamonds in New York. And he and he gave me an envelope and you know, with the with 100 euros on it, and the envelope said, here it is your Jew money.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

So yes, by the way, Israelis don't look like that.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Amit does this one.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I know you might. But that doesn't mean he's not like.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I'm just telling you roop this is this is what Amit looked like. But I just thought it was funny that he's good look, he said, Yeah, it was a great look. Finally he says, Here's your Jew money. It's true. We're getting Jew money. And he says John's about time. He says John, He loves it when you say someone's a mnemonic, because it reminds me he says of his old Jewish mother.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

So why she wasn't a nude Nick. Nick

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Ludwin, luxury and gave us a bottle of her SMPL dot international 7072 plant derived minerals. I'm tripping on him right now. Got an old Amsterdam cap from Jacob, I think and 33 euros and you need to do

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Adam CurryAdam Curry

So thank you all very much, who came to the meetup. It was great to see everybody. It was great to hang out with you. And we'll do it again in four more years. Something like that. It's tiring, long day. Over to our Executive Associate Executive producers came in either through the PayPal or through the PIO box checks etc. Or stripe. We kick it off with Pim interim from Maastricht the Netherlands four, five 6.66. And now oh, this is a meetup donation is why

there's well being invited to the meetup in Amsterdam. I realized I couldn't show up without finally pushing myself into knighthood. Is he on the list for knighthood? I take a look here.

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Because it's not I don't think so.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Not blue. Let me check.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

No, he does. Oh, let

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me see what he says in the rest of the note. I've been listening on and off and depending on my commute schedule, but always enjoyed it every second. last donation was 10 years ago. Time flies when being a douchebag when you're a douchebag. I guess, Adam? Uh, well, uh, maybe he's just being he's on his way to knighthood I think. No, no, no, not really. So time flies when you're being a douchebag hope i Adam would have enjoyed the best limbers to fly. Oh yes, there was limbers

to fly which is Dutch cherry pie. Very good from the best Baker in the Netherlands. And not I got nothing else much else to say no jingles or special night name kind regards PIM from Maastricht in the Netherlands, so I'll just make him serve him. I think he's Yes, sir. pimelodus All right.

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I guess it was confusing. Yeah. Maggie tindora Finn, Carlsbad, New Mexico 350. In honor of my smokin hot candy and avian husband's birthday on June 20, I am donating 350 for Martin north to pull them out of his current douchebag status. You've been de deuced Happy Birthday. Keep up the great work. Very

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nice. Douglas Murray Missoula, Montana 338 dot 33 first executive producer donation so it's doing some heavy lifting. Happy birthday to my mom Jerry and Happy Father's Day to my dad. They lost a son on May 29. Rest in peace and my brother and his wife don't do drugs. He says their babies are in great hands. So send them your love and that sounds like a drama. This is a partial switcheroo please boost my sis

to bear Netis Dame Ellen of the dream realm. I'd been a Baronet already myself, but I went all in on the dame drive back in the early days of COVID to get her a ring and never gotten I did myself. Oh man. You're a great brother. Please help me sir. Did you top of the sharp shovel boot karma for me please? I'm sorry. I must have missed the boob karma. Is there such a thing? No. We don't have I don't see your boob karma. Rattlesnake and

eggs with Miss cow at the round table. If I may thank you for your courage Douglas Murray. Well, we do have some karma for you but not at the booboo you've got karma but I'm sure you'll get it works with karma. You ask you receive

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Connor Balian tip city Ohio. Three Three 3.69 ITM gentlemen, I couldn't resist the opportunity to donate to the show number that ends in 69. Can you please consider this a randomizer donation as I don't want my total donation accounting to be that many sixes in a row? Please also de douche my friends sir Nick Leary. Ben de deuced is a night where he's never been deduced. I don't think he needed it. Adam, I think what you're doing with booster gram balls and Bitcoin

could revolutionize the music industry. And peer to peer payments. perfect use case for bit playing. I haven't heard one in a while. I'll have to tune back in. send prayers instead of a jingle. Can I get an OH NO from John. Oh, no. Thank you for your courage. Connor Bailey. In Columbus, Ohio, Columbus, Ohio.

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Becky, Kenny, Kenny, and he she is in Katy, Texas. Happy Father's Day, James. Thank you. Appreciate that. Please see Pay Pal donation of 333 dot 33 To celebrate Father's Day from my wonderful husband, Baronet. Well, Baronet Mike, of the great Katy Prairie. Just look at what great fathers our sons are to see how good a father you are. I love you honey. Keep up the good work no jingles no karma regards Becky Kenny Dame with a great Katy Prairie. That's a beautiful one Becky.

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Dame Greta Harrington comes up from sparks Nevada. 33333 ITM John and Adam, Happy Father's Day. Thank you for your courage,

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sir Larry Columbus, Ohio. 333 dot 20. Sir Larry here Happy Father's Day to my dad Robert Leary. This is a switcheroo donation. So the executive producer credit goes to him. Also Central Ohio meetup Friday, June 21. And there will be a Dayton Ohio meetup Saturday June 22. You got it.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Okay, now, I have to get the notes out. Once you read this when he added a note in front of you.

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Yes, I think I do. What is my my my my soul? My small screens, man. My small screens.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Shoot where it was right near me. And I

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got it. I got I haven't notes open. This is from it's this. This is a $300. Yes, I'm saying that right. Yes. And this is from Charlotte from San Francisco. And I have the note here. Luckily, it's a yellow paper. Apparently, there's a post it note. Adam and John. Listen to your show often and never feel I've wasted my time aiming for a dame hood for a year from now. I have my number straight. Okay, I hope you do. Thanks for anchoring so many of us to sanity anchoring to

sanity. With lots of last thrown in, keep on keepin on, says Charlotte

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the general with a Ge, Ge Ge and Wyatt Jen with a G Gen or Gen Gen Gen a Gen G Gen Gen with a G A G G and Wyatt then Liberty Lake Washington. tu tu tu tu tu tu first Associate Executive Producer. This row of ducks is to honor Kyle the spook A Spokane this Father's Day is brought more joy to us as a father than we could have ever imagined. Please send us more baby making karma we got that. Still working on it but as you to suggested John Adam will be on the list of possible names.

We love you Kyle. Love Jen with a Ge, Ge Ge and Wyatt. Imagine if they have twins.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

It's John Adams. Or how about Charles and Clark? Our middle names is also not good you happen to bend over kids here's your bad karma

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

is not the baby making karma?

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Yeah it is Dane best not Oh you're right I'm sorry it's so new the baby making karma that I forgot we had it here we go. There's your baby making karma Come on, baby. Come on up.

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you put that one together yourself? I did on Audacity. Yeah. Cool. That's a good one. Day Beth is in Tucson with a row of ducks. 222 dot 22 Heil boys, calling all Tucson slaves to join us for libation snacks and fun. During the second summer solstice Soiree. This Thursday at Kings crown from four to seven. It's a dry heat. No jingles no karma damn Beth bareness of the Baja Arizona.

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John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I got de you might as well you got him open to

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him. Bang bang to 1875 John Adam, it has been a long time since my last donation. Wishing you both a Happy Father's Day. Thank you. Did you get anything for Father's Day?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Yeah, I gotta get from J.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Oh, what did she give you? Can we talk about it?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Well, it was it was what she gave me is a crazy something she saw on Tik Tok. Yes. It's a crazy Lazy Susan device that goes onto one of the shelves with your refrigerator. And you load it up with everything you need to spin it around and it tucks back in there. It's an absolutely key. If you have a refrigerator that's deep like I do. It's the only way and get to the stuff in the back. It works great. What are you gonna put in it condiments? No, it's all

condiments already. She already installed it. And yeah, it's called most economists. And in fact, in the process of doing that I discovered a mustard that I lost somehow in the refrigerator years

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ago. Any other treasures back there?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Not anything major. Okay, good. My

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daughter is taking me on a pancake boat tour.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Do pancakes float? No.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

But they will be making pancakes while they tour through the waters of Rotterdam. Which I've never done. Yeah, never done that. And it's supposed to be beautiful weather when we do it on Tuesday. So back to Dame Bang Bang wishing us both a Happy Father's Day. Please accept this donation in honor of Sir DH slammer. Who is a wonderful father and husband. He will be celebrating his birthday on 618 So this is a we'll have a we'll have on the list. Happy Father's Day and

birthday. My night love Dane bang bang. Isn't that nice?

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He will he got Zedek Gazette is a doc Zadar ZZ Doc Brown to third. And Maka Maka Wha Oh. In Hawaii to 1270 and no note NOAC anything you're used to double up karma.

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You've got karma.

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Amy Lipinski Cold Springs Minnesota to 1060 must include some fees there appreciate it. Good morning, gents. Switch route today for my my excuse me. My smokin hot husband Dan the man Dan Lipinski. Happy Father's Day from your loving wife Amy Lynn and your loving but sometimes difficult daughter zayley. Thank you for all you do for us. Is it is zayley zayley. I

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think it's just a difficult daughter I think a mnemonic

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is there any other kind? That's at certain ages? They're all difficult daughters. That's what dads would tell you if they're honest. Thank you for all you do for us. Dan used dailies Christmas money on a donation for me for Mother's Day. So I figured we might as well use her birthday money for it but Father's Day that's how you do it with those difficult daughters Good job mom. seemed logical to me. Anyway, thank you Dan for supporting us always and really supporting me in his

first year of running my own business. If you're in my area, Cold Spring Minnesota and are in need of a new hairstylist. Look me up. Refreshed, LLC. That's refreshed, LLC. Thank you, John and Adam for your continued media construction. It is highly appreciated. Happy Father's Day all father's out there from Amy Lipinski.

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Anonymous in Colorado to under seven bucks. This donation is in memory of my father, a guy worthy of a Kid Rock song who was taken from us by dem aside in the COVID nightmare of summer 2021. I transmitted it to him and while he could have easily been saved by early treatment, instead, he was allowed to die alone in a hospital surrounded by people who load him to guilt his broken me and my mom is completely

nosedives sense. Christians, including myself better wake up to the reality that you'll be turning the other cheek when some gun toting POS government dude wearing a dress is loading you into a box car. So I know the show's already has one bus, goat calm and God bless you both John and Adam.

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Wow, I'm sorry to hear that anonymous. Can be praying for him. You've got karma. Wise words, wise words Eli, the coffee guy, Bensenville Illinois 206 13. And he wants to dedicate this Father's Day donation to the man who influenced him most. He says my grandfather Bucky gear Tich

gear, which I think is gear teach Bucky. He was union he was a union pipe cover, who helped build several nuclear power plants and refineries throughout the Midwest, and was the type of guy who could fix just about anything with a roll of duct tape, a wrench and a screwdriver. If you're alive, if that's a man, that's an American man right there. If he were alive today, I believe Bucky would have enjoyed no agenda. One of his favorite saying was kid, look who's getting paid and

that'll tell you everything you need to know. A karma for all the dads out there this Father's Day and remember, it's always a good time to send dad some coffee. Visit gigawatt coffee roasters.com and use code ITM 20 for 20% off your order. Stay caffeinated Eli the coffee guy. You've got karma

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then you loop Atkins up and she says she's in Lakewood, Colorado. She says this is a little different. Is 200 bucks. Like podcasting. Looking for a job is so hard it's such a grind. But a great friend makes it easier Go to Image makers inc.com with the K for resume and job search needs Oh

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no, you misread it when you said a great friend makes it easier. But

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a great resume makes it easier. No she's a friend all the resume okay

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because your

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go to Image makers calm. In fact, a great friend makes it easier. It's true, it is true. I go to Image makers inc.com with a k for all your executive resume and job search needs and work with Linda Lou Duchess of jobs and writer of resume jobs,

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jobs, jobs and jobs. That's her job bonus.

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Big bonus. And finally, our last Associate Executive producer is Chase Tomlinson in Austin, Texas $200 an episode of 668 My friend Donnie donated and credited me with punching him in the mouth. While I was happy and proud of my good friend. I felt like a douche bag. To counter his contribution. I'm offering dueling douchebag donation of $200. No jingles, no karma. Beautiful. Thank you very much

Chase. I encourage this activity. And with that we thank all of our meetup participants here in Amsterdam and today's 1669 episode, donations or executive and Associate Executive producers we appreciate it very much any amount helps out the no agenda show. The whole idea of value for value is you send us whatever the show is worth to you. And we can't determine that only you can time talent treasure. Thank you again for producing episode 1669

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Our formula is this. We go out. We hit people in the mouth

Adam CurryAdam Curry

All right. I want to I want to hit us with the bird flu right away because they cannot stop. They just can't stop for whatever reason. They can't stop. And it's spreading. Not what have some CBS clips. I

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

know you probably noticed that spreading it all.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

The meme is spreading the bird flu mean.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Yes, yes, for sure. Yeah, that right and most

Adam CurryAdam Curry

interesting, I would have to say and I do have some CBS clips. I know you have a couple as well, because we have to stay on top of this because we were a little lacks. When that COVID thing came along. We were laughing at the people fallen down on Tik Tok in China. He was all funny. And there was no one dying and they were just ramping it up and then all of a

sudden we were locked down and life change for everybody. But now it is we already identified this happening on the last show where Chris Cuomo started talking about you know, the the flu vid and the flu Vax and should we take it who did and I think news, I think News, News News Mac news nation has been compromised. And this is the Cuomo show with some feeling kid and listen to what he has to say, could

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we be on the verge of another pandemic and one that could be even worse than the one caused by Coronavirus. This time, it could actually be bird flu. Let's hope not. The CDC is now calling for more testing for bird flu at America's farms sounding alarms after several farm workers contracted the disease from animals since 2003. There have been 888 confirmed human cases worldwide, according to the DC, CDC, but but here's the scary part half of those half of those patients died from

the disease. Compare that to COVID in which just 0.6% of people who tested positive actually died. The fear now is that the bird flu is changing, adapting and could spread to not just birds, but also cattle and pigs and then eventually spread from human to human.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

So that's just the setup. Well, that's

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

worse than anything report I've heard because he's used the current the term is changing. And adapting. It's not.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Oh, but it doesn't have to do anything. It doesn't have to exist. All I'm waiting for now is Johns Hopkins. This one needs to come out with some charts.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I think we need I think we're in intermix with my three clips as a Johns Hopkins

Adam CurryAdam Curry

may really you really have a Johns Hopkins mentioned I

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

just mentioned, I think there may be one in there.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Well, let me let me get through these. And let's see if you have a Johns Hopkins. This is the introduction of a guy who I kind of had respect for but I've lost it now. This is Redfield, the guy from the CDC who resigned who left he was like this is no good and he was kind of in the in the man this is bullcrap. We shouldn't have done it this way

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Academy put a gun to his head there. Yeah, yeah. Hey,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

what's this picture man?

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Former CDC director Robert Redfield, who helped oversee our country's response to COVID says it is definitely time to take this more seriously. And Dr. Redfield joins me live now. It's always nice to see you, doctor. I remember you told Chris not long ago, that the bird flu could make COVID COVID look like a little pandemic, which was quite

alarming. I mean, is that really the case? Yes, Brian, I really do think it's very likely that we will at some time, it's not a question of, if it's more of a question of when we will have a bird flu pandemic. And, as you mentioned, unfortunately, bird flu has, when it does enter humans has a significant mortality, probably somewhere between 25 and 50% mortality. So it's going to be quite complicated. Since 2019, we've had a progressive increase in bird flu in chickens and

ducks and turkeys in our country. And since then, you've seen it now go into a number of mammals. It's now in over 25 different mammals, I think now with the lions recently is now in 27 minutes in the llamas animals in the United States.

Why is that important? Is why know exactly what has to happen for bird flu to be infectious for you and go human to human scientist in 2012 actually did experiments in the lab using function research, which I'm not in favor of, but two scientists did it and they figured the five amino acids that have to change in a key receptor in order for us to gain a propensity to bind to the human receptor and then be able to go human to human. So

Adam CurryAdam Curry

if I hear this Guy correctly, he's just saying it that all they have to do is pull the trigger the recipe you can get it from me Chad GPT they just have to change the five little bits and then we can have bird flu. That's what he's saying.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Yeah, that's very true what they're doing this what they're working on is that like, you know, the Peter McCullough clips describe this perfectly, and they named the lab and the people. He did a pretty good job of that even though I got a nasty note from somebody saying up here, my call is part of the op.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Well, he's certainly well, if the OP is to tell us that they I mean, what I'm hearing now because this is news nation. This is not CNN is not CBS. CBS is not NPR. And we know this is the Cuomo show, which by itself is clearly some kind of op. Clearly guy can't apologize for anything. And then take that with what Macaulay is saying they are basically saying

without saying it, they can do it to you. They can do it. Now what that means is little interesting because I don't recall McCullough saying 50% of people will die from the bird flu there's no evidence so

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

he's the opposite. Yeah, he said this is all the people that is and he said I'll just reiterate without him to play these clips again. He said that the people who died at a higher death rate of bird flu are the ones out in the middle of nowhere China, where are they handling a lot of birds and again Depp getting bird flu and then they never get treated at all and they're just left to die and so they die at a high

rate but that's not what would happen in a normal situation. So that the bogus that deaths rate numbers bogus

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Okay, so but but the idea they can do it Redfield is now propagating the

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

idea what they could do is not kill people whose is the changed amino acid so it becomes human, the human transmissible, but according to Makala, again, this is just a result in everybody having conjunctivitis it would be kind of gory to watch, look around at what people look

Adam CurryAdam Curry

like. And we'll have to test with swabs in our eyes, which

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

that is right. I forgot about that. Yes, well, well,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I think the key word here is just like we had the ferrets during COVID I think the llamas, the llamas are the ones who look out for when the llama start keeling over, then you know they've released

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it, is it like COVID? Where if you cough someone else can get it? Is that how it spreads? Or does it spread a different way? No, it's likely to spread through aerosols and droplets is how it's going to eventually spread mascot. And once the once the virus gains the ability to attach to the human receptor, and then go human to human, that's when you're going to have the pandemic. And as I said, I think it's just a matter of time. Normally, the five amino acid changes is a huge, huge

species barrier. So who knows how long that will take but as it goes into more and more different mammals, it's changing its use of receptors. It's changing. It's changing. It's learning to how to use different receptors for dolphins and seals. And it's learning how to use receptors. I

Adam CurryAdam Curry

think seal flew is cool dolphin flew. I can't come to work. I got dolphin flu.

Unknown

And it's learning how to use receptors in bears and polar bears and polar bears and raccoons and cats. Cats. Oh, it's going through a lot of changes in polar bears.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

There's money in testing polar bears. I guarantee you, Susie

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and raccoons and cats. So it's going through a lot of changes. And it's as it picks up cold and flu middies new receptors, it can get closer and closer to humans recently in cattle, you know where it was recently described and now is in the significant number of cattle in the United States. You know, I'm concerned about that because cattle live close to pigs and a lot of times in flu. There's been a relationship of flu going from pigs to humans as it's trying to evolve wise.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

China is where you have this mixture of livestock we don't have I don't know of any cop get called farmers who have a bunch of pigs mixed in.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

No You're misunderstanding you misunderstanding.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

When he said my misunderstanding he says that the cows are going to give it to the pigs and it's gonna mix up into a witch's brew of God knows what is going to come out and kill us all. That's what I heard.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

No, you need to understand the code when they say pigs. That's the code word, because to them we're just pigs in human clothing. Pigs are all pigs to them concerned

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about that because cattle live close to pigs and a lot of times in flu, there's been a relationship of flu going from pigs to humans as it's trying to evolve in gaining the receptors it needs to go human. I'm less concern, though, that this will happen through spillover and evolution are much more concerned that this will happen in the laboratory to gain a functional research.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I mean, just say it, they're gonna do it mail in ballots mask up, flatten the curve, the CDC weighs

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in on the medical life, the CDC is tracking two drug resistant flu strains. They're mutations of the h1 and one virus which was responsible for the swine flu pandemic and 2009. The news was

Adam CurryAdam Curry

not stop. I was there. It was not a SWAT, they did not call it a pandemic. Do you remember them calling it?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

You're wrong? Really? It was that Chinese woman if you remember, we were doing the show. Yeah, it was that Chinese woman who was the head of the who, who out of the blue, deemed it a pandemic? And this is that flu that came out of Mexico? I think it was they're lined up for it

Adam CurryAdam Curry

for the shots of the only clip I have is this

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I discovered a new strain of the flu that has the potential to become a pandemic

Adam CurryAdam Curry

that it had pandemic potential.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

No, no, she I'm telling you I can do the research if I have to. But I'm telling you, she called it a pandemic and it just didn't stick the way did with COVID She nobody took her too seriously. She's She was just not a good age who person. Pandemic Okay, okay. I never was much of one except in fact that they lined up I had pictures I had photos at the Albany library of people lined up around the block Luca Star Wars

Adam CurryAdam Curry

to get their swine flu shot. I remember that.

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All right, let's continue pandemic and 2009. The new strains are more resistant to the flu treatment Tamiflu, and also retain sensitivity to other anti flu medications. Despite this, the CDC is not recommending any changes to clinical care for the mutated virus.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

So they're just pushing all kinds of noise into the ether. I have a couple of CBS clips but I want you to play your NPR clips first.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I believe this to be from NT de Oh, it

Adam CurryAdam Curry

says NPR. It does. It says NPR clip one NPR? Well, we'll know we know if they go Hey, hi. Hello, boy. Yeah. Hey, how you doing Toppy? Yeah, then we'll be

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

rollin. Oh, yes, I'm sorry. You're right. Clip one NPR and D G.

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Does the US have bird flu under control? It's hard to tell even though it's been close to three months since the virus was first spotted in dairy cattle. New cases are still cropping up most recently in Wyoming and Texas. This week, federal health agencies released several new assessments of the situation and PRs will stone is here to tell us the latest Hey, Well,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

hey there. Hey, Well, hey there.

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What can we learn from these latest report? What

Adam CurryAdam Curry

are you learning? Well,

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well, we got a better sense of how bird flu is spreading between different dairy farms. The virus has been detected in more than 90 herds in a dozen states since late March. Many of these cases were in Michigan, the USDA drilled down into what's happening there. They found it's mainly being transmitted from hurt to hurt in three ways. So first, through shared equipment and vehicles. Second, people are

carrying the virus inadvertently on their clothing or boots. And finally, some animals that are infected are moving between farms, there had been concerned that wild birds could be repeatedly reintroducing the virus into dairy cattle. So far, federal officials say the evidence does not support that, based on genetic sequencing of viral samples. It appears there was a single spillover event when a wildbird spread is below

in Texas sometime last year. And that sparked this unprecedented nationwide outbreak in dairy cattle.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

It's really it's really mixed. Hold on. It's really interesting, how you introduce us to the term spillover, which was in a totally different context. And now we both had both had to clip two clips today with the term spillover Yeah. So

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

word they want to put into public domain so we're hearing it a lot. Yep. And you're gonna hear it more. So

Adam CurryAdam Curry

and we will hear it maybe we'll hear spillover it's time to donate.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Yeah. We'll be rich. So so this makes it now McCullough in the previous clips that we played a talked about they infected some mallard ducks. Yep. And the ducks are floating around because how US you explain it going from Texas to

Adam CurryAdam Curry

migrate out to Wyoming a migrate the mallard ducks are big migrators

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

and their float, are you but mallard ducks are feeling all over the floaters. And so by Meanwhile, they're in denial about this because they don't want to push the push it push back on that lab that created the mallard duck. And so they end up with this bullcrap story. Oh, it's because of the same equipment and somebody's got mud on their feet. We're talking about Michigan and Wyoming. This is not You're not exchanging cattle between these two states or?

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I mean, it's bull crap.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

How about Peking duck Peking duck. That's how it's gonna be. This can originate from Peking duck. We gotta blame it on

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Dexter, one of the prettiest ducks you've ever seen in your life and tasty. They are very tasty. Yes, indeed. All right. Anwar was more than now. So there's some reason that they don't want to? Because the guy specifically said no, it's not migratory fowl. It's as Madonna boots on the boots on the ground. So this is not so we know that there's a problem. They're trying to control the narrative and they're doing a shitty job of it. Here we go beyond

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animals, though. I know a few humans have contracted this flu, which has some folks concerned about this sparking a pandemic. Do we have any better sense of the risks of people

Adam CurryAdam Curry

concerned? It's sparking a pandemic? John? I'm gonna put it in the book, man. I'd give us two more months before we have real pandemic noise coming from the Biden administration. They're doing it. They are doing it. I don't know if it'll work. It's gonna be interesting to see all the people who say, I'm not putting a mask on. I'm not gonna do that. No way. Not gonna happen. Well, hold

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

on before you continue. I can go to a grocery store today and see people with masks. And a third of the people will be wearing a mask I know but if it becomes,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

quote unquote, mandatory Yeah, I'm not I can tell you right now. I'll go to jail.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Coded jail. in Fredericksburg. There's nothing to worry about. Good policing, by the way during the last pandemic was nil. Except for you know, it was so much easier pressure say put a mask on it was self policing. Yeah. Yeah, it was self policing. We could go out you're locked down bullcrap. Just go out. Nobody cared.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

We knew. We need to get out in front of this. We need no agenda shop was some T shirts and hoodies and stuff that have a good slogan like, bird flu question mark. Yo, Mama. Something like that we need

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Well, yeah, that'll do it. Yeah, jingle maker Adam curry.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I'm just I'm just I'm just giving an alley up. I'm just trying to get lay it up here. Someone else has got to put it in. Okay.

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Do we have any better sense of the risks of people here? So right now federal health officials say the risk to the general public remains low. If you work with dairy cattle, obviously, the risk level is higher. There's still only been three human cases reported the most recent one was in a Michigan dairy worker. That was more concerning because the

person actually had respiratory symptoms. I asked the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention this week, whether there were any alarming mutations in the sample arm virus they collected from that person. Here's what Dr. Nirav Shah with the CDC told me

Adam CurryAdam Curry

just listen to this Scripps alarming respiratory symptoms what I mean, I have respiratory symptoms. What are you talking about NPR,

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we didn't see any signs in the virus's fingerprints that suggests that you're able to transmit between humans or from animals to humans. So clearly that is reassuring but without a doubt there are people in public health who are deeply worried about the situation

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Okay, stop and stop the clip. This is the classic type of propaganda you get from these guys. Yeah. The clip said specifically there's nothing's going on. We can't find any evidence of anything and then you got cut back to the guy says but other people and without the attribution are concerned No, I didn't say go back right back into the narrative that you just described as a script.

Believable how bad this is here, but this is making me take your site on this thing to some extent even though I still think it's never gonna go anywhere because these guys are incompetent boneheads, but okay.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

We just, we just need some charts. We need some numbers. We need some. We need trucks, refrigerators, Johns Hopkins, Johns Hopkins in refrigeration trucks, then we're good to go. Clearly

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that is reassuring. But without a doubt there are people in public health who are deeply worried about the situation. The fact that we don't have more visibility around this outbreak. Are there unknowns that have public health officials concerned? There's a lot of for starters, exactly how many cattle are infected right now. We don't know. I asked the CDC if we even have some sense of the trajectory here. Have we hit the peak of cases in cattle? The answer was also we don't know.

Andrew Peck OSH roundup another big concern when I spoke to him, which is better surveillance on the human side of things. pickoff is a virologist at Johns Hopkins Bloomberg public.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Johns Hopkins coming in coming in through the side door? Well, yes, we need. So first of all, we know from our producer who repented on this very show, what a what a money making scam the testing is. So we clearly need to get into the testing game. Can you say ESXi X IT strategy? I mean, $750 million, just for a half of the California the Los Angeles School District. So the test so there's a lot of money that's going to be pushing this. Everybody sees it. Everybody knows it. Everybody wants it.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Boom, the blueprints out there. It's we already saw that it's effective and safe for making money. It's safe way to make money and it's effective. I just haven't effective.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I just want to get in on it. I mean, can we do

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

this? We had to think about it. There is a way we had we should be able to get

Adam CurryAdam Curry

so. So the elements that are missing here. One, Johns Hopkins in the side door. So that's a start. We need Ted Ross. Ted Ross needs to start talking. That's a given I think okay.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Ted draws video that's floating around tick tock waves

Adam CurryAdam Curry

dancing gay. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And, and the one with the Zelinsky and McCrone. That's not those guys. That's the real deal. And we need Marco Rubio in there, more of that. Ai. Now, so we've got we got to have Tadros that's that's easy, because he'll he'll just do whatever they tell him. That's he's probably already talking. I think Bill Gates is going to back off a little bit, but GAVI will be in there. We need a Fauci figure.

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That and by the way,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Hotep

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Peter Hotez? Yeah, he's not dynamic. We need someone who can do the White House briefings. Maybe Redfield maybe Redfield is vying for the spot. Maybe that's why he's out there written and Redfield will be good enough, you know, former CIA, he's

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

an old man, and I think you need an older guy sounds like it?

Adam CurryAdam Curry

No, no, he's, he's probably my age. Don't say don't say it's

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too late. That's really the critical thing that we're not worried about is, if this virus gets into humans, then the virus can adapt to humans directly. This has been going on long enough so that there should be antibody signatures in the blood of people who have gotten exposed. And that would really give us a sense of how much low level exposure perhaps mild disease has been in this population.

So basically figuring out how many cases we might have missed by looking for evidence of a past infection that can help us gauge the overall risk to humans. Picard says, it still seems that within a herd the virus is primarily spreading in the process of milking. It could be the virus just keeps doing that and doesn't end up adapting to spread from human to human. If we can keep it from infecting other people. But that's optimistic and not something we can bank on

that NPR health correspondent will stone Thanks. Well, thanks. Well,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

okay, so how about the admiral? The admiral, the one on the dress? Rachel Levine. Yes. Admiral Levine this possibility

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Yeah, now you just being silly. No, no, not being silly. Who's gonna take her seriously?

Adam CurryAdam Curry

two humps? Apparently the entire government does. No one sits and says Yo, dude, stop

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

it. Do it in a dress the way you always describe it. No one says Hey, Rachel.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Dude, stop it no one says that in government now they give him awards. He's a metal

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Yeah, when we're all he's got a lot of metal get his metal

Adam CurryAdam Curry

in his case is called fruit salad. John. Hey, oh, a Oh, all right. Now let's go to the CIA broadcasting systems now. You know, it's getting serious CBS and it's amazing because I believe Dr. Celine Gruner. Gout Gunder Gunder gone gounder I believe she's the one whose husband died while reporting on the World Cup.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I think Oh, really? That's the I mean, I know the guy who just some guy died suddenly died suddenly the a collapse or husband?

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Yes. Yeah. Heart attack. Yes. Yes. Which I'm sure was from chewing Xylitol gum or something. We're gonna be

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

sila tall that'll kill you.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Yeah. Oh, by the way. A lot of people sent me messages the design little tall actually did supposedly very good against the weird viruses and stuff. That's probably why they want it done and out. It's got

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

some sort of got some sort of anti viral qualities. It also prevents. It's like it does all kinds of weird thing. Strange sugar

Adam CurryAdam Curry

prevents tooth decay. All right, yeah, let's get into it. Because here we go again. We're gonna

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begin this hour with the latest on a dangerous bird flu and concerns that this virus has the potential to become Here you go the P word pandemic. And

Adam CurryAdam Curry

the P word. pandemic. Gail, you're so on script girl, the P word

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pandemic. Yikes. Yeah, the h five and one virus has already spread to dairy cows and a few humans. So far, there have been outbreaks in livestock and at least 12 states. Four cases have been reported in humans in threes. Two or three people were exposed to infected cows and one person to infected poultry. CBS News Medical contributor Dr. Celine gounder is here. Hopefully she's gonna make us feel better sort this out phase Dr. sullied. I don't want to feel here we go again. But I

remember when he first heard about COVID. I'm not comparing them. It's like if you weren't in China and been to China, don't worry about it. Bird flu, there was just one case, don't worry about it. Nothing to see here. And now the numbers seem to be climbing up. At what point do we start worrying?

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Oh, we're gonna go from status concern to status worrying?

Unknown

What really concerns us is how do you develop a pandemic flu, it's where you have in the lab where it always happens. Two different strains of the virus. So a bird flu and a human flu mixing, sort of swapping body parts kind of like Frankenstein, it's when you get the Hold on a second.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

This is not I was not aware of this process. Franken flu. So we just mix up some bird places to

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

thesis about getting two things at once or having or being faxed and then getting it and then mutase this is a this is a I think a lot of people would call it crackpot theory. But

Adam CurryAdam Curry

there's some this is actual conspiracy theory because most of

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

the real flu screwball flus come from, from China, where they're mixing ducks and pigs and pangolins and bats, Hangul, Enzo and

Adam CurryAdam Curry

pinion on China again. All right. All right. So but now it's mixing up body parts. So

Unknown

it's where you have two different strains of the virus, a bird flu and a human flu mixing, sort of swapping body parts, kind of like Frankenstein. It's when you get those Frankenstein

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

body parts with someone I don't remember that. I

Adam CurryAdam Curry

know. Dr. Frankenstein went to the great Frankenstein it

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

was oh, maybe she's talking about the doctor, not the name of the monster.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Well, that's a common mistake

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swapping body parts kind of like Frankenstein. It's when you get those Frankenstein flus that you get a pandemic, you have humans, the dairy farm workers who are currently getting burned. That's

Adam CurryAdam Curry

how you get a pandemic, you mix up some body parts like Frankenstein, the Franken flu, then you got a pandemic. So she's describing the lab process here. As far as I can tell, that you mix this with that get those five Frankenstein worked in a lab. And

Unknown

it's when you get those Frankenstein flus that you get a pandemic, you have humans, the dairy farm workers who are currently getting bird flu, we have regular flu season coming up in a couple of months. That's when the danger could really emerge for that kind of pandemic. But just the fact that they're even using the word pandemic at this stage. They're concerned, very triggering to all it is triggering, but imagine six months before COVID.

If I had taken steps, then we could have avoided all I mean, that was painful for a couple of years there,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

we need to pre flatten the curve. I think I think we need to get ahead of this. And and we need to have mailing ballots before the election, just to make sure that we don't because this is it. This could be a variation of the script. We've got to shelter in place so that we don't spread this. At the John, I just can't help thinking but they are pushing it. They're going to trigger it. We're just missing a few elements. Okay, so

Unknown

have you heard about bird flu and farmers to most people? Seems like they're very isolated. Yeah. How quickly how widely can this spread? Well, flu is highly infectious. So if we're dealing with a pandemic flu, then it's generally spread person to person through the respiratory route. So far, what we're seeing we think is most of the transmission is occurring through the milk through equipment or you know, other items that are contaminated with

milk, and then from cow to cow, okay. But we don't have a great handle on exactly how things are being transmitted. We have some theories, but without testing enough, it's very hard to hone in on this is exactly the thing. It's very hard to

Adam CurryAdam Curry

hone it without testing. I think that's that's the next step. We're going to take Testing, testing, testing testing, we need to get ahead of this was testing, it's a bonanza out some friends of mine are in that business. They're so smart. They made so so they made out on the testing business. They were testing, they're gonna

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

make out again. Yeah,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I want a piece of the action. So

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one of the missteps, or the last pandemic was we perhaps didn't get out in front of it early enough. What are we doing now to prepare? So this becomes something we need to worry about? Good question. Good question. So how do you incentive? Oh,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

no, that's your cue?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

That's not a great question.

Unknown

Don't need to worry about that question. It's a great question. So you know, how do you incentivize people to get tested? That's really the such situation we're in right now. So how do you incentivize testing of cows? How do you incentivize with money testing of milk? How do you incentivize testing of people with money. So the USDA has a program a compensation program for the farmers, so that they have less of a economic hit if there are infected cows on the

farm? So far, that hasn't led to a lot more testing. They only are required to test if they're moving cows over state borders, so they could be moving them within the state. There's no testing requirement. In terms of the farmworkers, a lot of them are undocumented. And so they don't want to be on any kind of government roster database, whatever. So unless you kind of you address their immigration deportation fears, they're probably not going to want to get tested. Oh,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

well, that's interesting. Oh, that's

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

the switcheroo. That's been what they're saying. What she's saying is, you know, because they're afraid because they're on diamond. So let's legalize all the 12 million immigrants Biden let in and then we won't have a problem that stopped us in the bud. That's

Adam CurryAdam Curry

interesting. I interrupt this flow of clips for this clip from lawyer Brad Bernstein or Stein

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update on Biden's new immigration laws. CBS News is reporting Biden's gonna make the big announcement Tuesday, June 18, at a big White House ceremony. And here's the announcement. Anyone who's been in the United States for more than 10 years if they entered without inspection, and are married to a US citizen who will be granted a parole in place, which is a document that will allow them to file an adjustment of status application to get their green card, their work

permit and Advanced Parole travel permission. In addition, CBS News is reporting that Biden will announce waivers for people who are living unlawfully in the United States to obtain h1 B visas or visas, ie visas and other employment based non immigrant work visas and we

Adam CurryAdam Curry

have to do it because we need them to be honest about their bird flu status. Genius.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

That is tricky. Man y'all so they can vote.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Of course, and and I have it. No agenda official bird flu tester, T shirts, hoodies, caps, make it look official, bird flu testing pan pre pandemic team. Come on, people work with me here. So are

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you feeling that if we're not in contact with farm workers, or farm animals or farm equipment that drinking raw milk or drinking raw milk? That we don't have to worry about it? Is that what you're thinking or? Well, in the immediate term, and there are ongoing tests,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

except for a second? Yeah. So do you Has any one of these journalists actually, actually said the follower asked the following question of any of these people? So how many documented cases of somebody getting bird flu from raw milk? Have you discovered or uncovered or even suspected?

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I have not found any evidence of this question? Which by the way, might qualify as a great question.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Well, it's such an obvious question to me, because you're as they keep bringing it up. So why does one of these quote unquote journalists ask the obvious question, because it's

Adam CurryAdam Curry

given it's a given? It's just a given at this point? Yeah. Now they've made it a given. But no, given a new mini series by Korean John Cena, that script, the given could be concerned that we

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don't have to worry about it. Is that what you're thinking or Well, in the immediate term, and there are ongoing tests of milk, for example, because depending on how much virus is in the milk supply, pasteurization may continue to be good enough. If they not Whoa,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

whoa, pasteurization may not work if there's too much virus in the milk supply. This is highly unscientific in my book, pasteurization

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

make it up as you go along people, they get to be good

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enough, it may not. And so there's ongoing testing to make sure is that adequate, but if you do get one of those Frankenstein flus where you have a combination of a personal and a human flu, and that's so possible because that's when all of us really start to get worried.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

get worried, GET WORRIED another t shirt get worried. I'm making I get worried. Yeah, bird flu is a good one, get worried bird flu is here. I want to be a part of the testing unit. Because then you can just have some swabs walk down the street, an official looking shirt and say, excuse me. I think you need to be tested. You seem to have you drink raw milk. Okay. You know, even pasteurization may not work. So we need to test you it'd be $10 It's on the spot.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Does that include the phrase I'd take off your top?

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Who was that guy was ugly George. When the guy in New York used to walk around with us in the days of early cable. He had a whole rig like a satellite dish on his head and a backpack go up to women on the streets and he was ugly too. He said yeah, I want to do an interview with you. You're beautiful and you take them up to his apartment or go to their apartment with his his space rig. And again to take the top off. Cable cable was great back in the days of channel deck and

that day, the days of channel J in New York. So there you have it be prepared because they're going to try and pull something. Just be on the lookout producers of the no agenda show Be on the lookout for Johns Hopkins numbers. Be on the lookout for refrigeration trucks. Be on the lookout for a for a face we need to face we need a new Fauci. We need one someone who can who could Corinne you know? Hey, can we put a lab coat on? On the

rear admiral? What's his name? Kirby Rachel Levine how Kirby can we turn him in or be Kirby's

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

enough of a stooge and a sellout and and a kind of embarrassment to the Navy and he's deal Yeah,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

he's DoD yeah DoD crank up operation warp speed too know I mean, we shouldn't be we shouldn't be in the situation room. We tell the guys we tell these guys how to do it. Well,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

they're doing it their way.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Well, hurry up already. These clips are annoying. We need to get there faster.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

What else we got here? I got a Gaza update. Let's get that out of the way. Okay.

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Gaza update. Yes. The Israeli military says eight soldiers died in an explosion in southern Gaza today, the second deadliest attack on Israeli forces of the war. In Gaza families are preparing for a bleak eat out ha tomorrow, one of the most important festivals in the Muslim calendar. It's usually celebrated with big family meals and gifts for children. But this

year, there's only war, hunger and misery. The holiday marks the end of the Hodge witch peak today with nearly 2 million Muslims gathering on a sacred hill in Saudi Arabia for a day of worship. The hill of mercy is believed to be the site of the Prophet Muhammad's final speech known as the Farewell Sermon.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

That was more detailed than most other reports. Yeah,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

it wasn't too bad and then that but that's all I've got. I do have some some new segment you introduced last show was kind of our anti gay news.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I didn't introduce any anti gay segment.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Well, it was seemed like it to me. Oh, so I have this. I have this clip too. But the U turn. Yes.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Will play as a great clip is a great clip LA City

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Council members you go soda Martinez and Nithya ramen were on hand today to help remove the signs. They say the no cruising and no U turn signs were put up in the 1990s to prevent people in the gay community from meeting up with other gay people. I was also surprised that these these U turn signs were still up and at first, you know they seem a little Oh, okay. It's just a no U turn sign. But when you learn the history of it, and you

realize that these were used to profile gay people. It's so important that we have these removed the LA City Council members say the signs were put up after the gay community began to grow and because there was a gay bar in that area.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

You know, I'm not sure what this was promoting. Well, I

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

whatever was promoting I wanted to ask a question of you. Okay, according to that guy who comes on and does a little color he says you know I insurance if you look at the history, the you know, you turn sign was a way of profiling gays.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

How? Oh, well.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I mean, because somebody started and pointed at the U turn session. Hey, we can make a U turn. No. I mean, well, how do you it says no U turn. Did you hear you're driving along

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Cruz Hold on a second. It was because of cruising because there was a gay bar in the neighborhood and they didn't want people cruising. Yeah,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

yeah. So how does it know you turn sign? Profile? Gays? Oh, it

Adam CurryAdam Curry

doesn't profile them. It just stops. That's what he said. Yeah, yeah. Well, yeah. Okay, I understand. Here's my question. Why was there a six foot trans transvestite? What's the word?

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What's the show? Your boy? Yeah,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

you know, the seven foot duty dress on your woman? Yeah. I keep forgetting the name dude

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

in a dress. Cross.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

From the story. Our story our

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

try drag queen story.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Queen. Thank you. dreck. RuPaul thanks troll room. No, yeah, now this guy would not be on RuPaul had no panache. Why was he there?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

This color to the? No.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Because you had no you had the the feminine talking guy. Yeah, but then the you had this this dude in a wig taken down the U turn sign why? It was no drag. There was no drag show there.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I find the whole thing to be idiotic. It's

Adam CurryAdam Curry

virtue signaling. And But the worst thing if used Do you see the video? Just get the clip because I know I saw the video. Did you see when that guy was talking about the profiling? On the banner behind him it said baby gay. And I wonder what that is?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Oh, that do you ever seen baby gay? No. There's a bunch of these gay couples that have been adopted baby. And they call it they usually refer to as baby gay and they dress them up in pink and they just do all these gay things with him. And it's called Baby gay. And I think is I think there was a book that was written called Baby gay.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Okay, well, why was there on the banner? It's because

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

they're so they're so happy about it. This. This was a promotional idea. But

Adam CurryAdam Curry

we don't have enough information. This sign takedown was some promotion of something and it didn't work clearly. Because we don't know what the promotion was for. There was a whole banner a backdrop there was all kinds of stuff. mangry

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Yeah, we're just shooting it. We're just shooting.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Shooting Blanks over here. Australia is often ahead of things we can take the temperature of what's coming to the rest of the world by seeing what happens in Australia. Would you agree that's a reasonably fair statement. I think

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I would, I'm actually gonna argue with because you're you have a point to make. But I will say that I think a lot of is just rank experimentation to see how far people can be pushed. Well, bingo.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

You nailed it. Your buddy from Australia, Elmer Fudd. You introduce them to us. Elmer. Yes. Elmer Fudd. Peter Dunstan.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Premier. Well, he's run by Minister. He's a Prime Minister. Prime minister. Yes.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Well, I guess there's elections coming up. And he is now saying, If you elect me, I will make a law that children under 16 cannot go on social media. This is this is the trend. And of course, what I'm looking for in this trend is how do we actually police it? Cuz you can't just trust parents? That's no good. And children belong to the state. So how do they police it and the interesting thing about this is that his opposition in this election is all for it. So

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I know the Australians are weird that way. Somebody comes up with a crackpot idea on the one side of the aisle and the other side. Yeah. At work, it doesn't happen in this country never has here's a super clip,

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both major political parties throw their support behind the idea of banning under 16 year olds from social media. The coalition has been out in the past few days, saying it would do this within its first 100 days of a future coalition government. Mr. Dutton is promising to roll out an age verification system across the country. just applaud Peter Dutton for taking such a firm stand on this tell us how your system would work? Well, I think it's best to look at it from a parent's

perspective. And parents want some rules in place. And I think we say to people who are really having a tough conversation with their kids at the moment that it's going to be easier if we have a law that says in the conversation when you're talking to your kids that you can't be on these platforms until you're 16. That's the law. I for one want to see our children live safely. We've got all kinds of rules around what around what can be printed what

can be on television at certain at certain times of the day. A movie ratings. And yet social media is a free for all. Here's the Prime Minister speaking on this issue yesterday, social media is having a negative impact on young people. I want people to spend more time on the footy field or the Netball court than they're spending on their phones. I just think given the exposure that we see young kids getting now online, it's just it's a huge and confronting world out there.

And a ban if it can be effective, is a good way to go. Because companies need to be pressured. And if we do nothing, the red lines continue to be crossed. I couldn't agree with you more, I think most people would look at sounds great. I think every parent around the country will be nodding 30 And he's young. But you could also argue a 16 is too. How do you put an age on it? That's

a wonderful question. Because if I had it my way to be Christians remain over how it would be enforced Prime Minister has been pointing to work that's already underway on age verification techniques, we have a huge capacity here within our system, the technology is much better than it was five years ago. One is kind of a digital token that you would acquire by having ID that would prove your birthdate that you could then take to social

media platforms to prove your age. And now there is facial recognition to determine somebody's age is appropriate. But you're simply looking at your phone screen or upload a video selfie of yourself and algorithm can essentially work out how old you are. Look, I reckon they can do it. I reckon they can do it in the cancer

because they know exactly what we're talking about. They know what products to sell to whoever they get, they send a band all sorts of information streams they don't like so they can't tell me that their technology isn't up to doing this. I think there are a number of ways in which we do it. Is it perfect? No. But is there an option to do nothing, I just don't think that is a responsible course of action. I hope that this is an

issue where the Prime Minister and I can work together. And if we show that bipartisanship, I think it sends a very clear message to the companies as well. And we're serious about this.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

You're absolutely right, Jeremy, they just push crazy things. See what people will accept. And I think this is going to happen.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Well with Elmer Fudd, that guy he was when he first got in, he went into a big deal made a big deal about memes that involved him. Yep. And of course, that triggered everybody to do one and he

Adam CurryAdam Curry

has the CIA, CIA lady.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

CIA spook. Yeah. And so the next thing you know, this is this country's out of control. It's no sweat off my balls. I'm

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gonna show my school by donating to no agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Yeah, look, the affiliates run

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

a little bit. Get a rap to show I mean, we have a lot of stuff to talk about. But you do but we're

Adam CurryAdam Curry

wrapping it and it's 1130 here and I still have to find dinner, which I'm sure will be

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

nice. You should get room service. Ah, room

Adam CurryAdam Curry

service. Yes, room service. Okay. We want to thank the rest of our producers down to the 50 who never mentioned any names for reasons of anonymity under $50. And of course we also have under 50 Our sustaining donors we appreciate you so much you can make up your own number your own we'd like it if you set a recurring payment for show per week, per month per year. Whatever number works for you. Put it down send it to us. That is how value for value works. John, take us through to 50

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Well, okay, now we have a lot of this is going to be a little longer than usual because we have to thank the dads Yes. Did Father's Day show. So starting with Kenneth Kenneth lusty and Tomahawk, Wisconsin $130.03. This is a Father's Day switcheroo for my old man the anonymous spirit of the North Woods. love you dad. Rod Roger roundy our old buddy there in DC area in Alexandria, Virginia to be exact he me with $105.35 Watch my new YouTube comedy channel. Ask America with Edgar. Oh,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

that's actually pretty funny. Yes, yeah. It's kind of like it's a different take on the talking dog was it? Tune says now who

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

was a cat the cat the corner? The cat death cat

Adam CurryAdam Curry

in the corner? What? No, also the dog the dog that would be smoking the cigar? Oh, yeah,

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

the insult. Comic dog. Yeah, there you go. It's triumph. Triumph.

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Yes. Yes, that's it.

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At least one way to go.

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Adam CurryAdam Curry

was winning. Is that really true, Sir Chris? That's funny.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Anything's possible.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

But who discovered the body is the question? Oh, right in the sand. Yes. Right. That's right. Died. Is that what a way to go?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

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Adam CurryAdam Curry

I'm not familiar. I don't

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know. kenning Aurora Russell in Winchester, New Hampshire. 5049. Now we get to the $50 donors. Just name and location lessers a call out there's only one I can see. Starting with a Diane shawanna Back in johnsburg. Illinois, Christian Freeman and San Marcos Texas. Kevin dills in Huntersville. North Carolina Chris Lewinsky in Sherwood Park Ella, Alberta and this is Sir Chris. Michael Thompson a new brown fells Texas. Phillip blue in Louisville Kentucky Michael

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Adam CurryAdam Curry

bodies is that what you do with the bodies with looks

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

like some of their stuff? They have some tremendous the attractive is not cheap, but tremendously attractive. What I'd call glamorize burn barrels.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Bad idea supply. Where are they? Oh, they're

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

an Item No. I

Adam CurryAdam Curry

mean, where are they on the donation list?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

They're not on today's that just easy landscapes reminded me of that of that call out I got Yeah, where are they didn't they think they got sick and not getting their promotion? Brian wardens up next season coming Georgia. He came in with a 50 and he says it was overboard. jobs coming for his wife. He wants your dream job. where's the where's the call it the dad? I don't see it.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

No. Well, no, he says she got a dream job. Dream job. The day after the show. My dad suddenly died from the flu. He says Can Capital the flu Yeah Then he turned 50 on the same weekend and so we need to jobs calm we'll do that the end for you brother

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

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and I think it was actually more dad donations than I thought more dad messages and here's a

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

couple of down further on the list or is for David Martin's best dad and pops around from Kayla, which I'm sure was meant to be read. And anything

Adam CurryAdam Curry

that's the only one all right. Well, thank you producers. Thank you producers for your treasure. Thank you executive and Associate Executive Producers Thank you meet up producers. Thank you producers for your time and your talent value for value works keep us going for more years jobs,

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John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Let's vote for jobs.

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Adam CurryAdam Curry

You have I think you might have the bird flu you've been blowing your nose throughout the whole show. Hey, no Well you're the one doing it

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

bird flu I haven't got conjunctivitis so I don't have it. So something else. Okay, well, the infected sinus it's very

Adam CurryAdam Curry

unprofessional is what it is.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I wasn't able to I was in the other room you

Adam CurryAdam Curry

have no idea how loud that comes through. Every single time you you blow your nose at the troll room is counting as they have to take a drink. They're hammered now.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Twice.

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you want to go hang out with all day. You will be triggered. You will be

Adam CurryAdam Curry

is like I think I might have a winner here. I have a couple of ISOs for end of show. Shall I go first?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Yes, you may as well.

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Adam CurryAdam Curry

I was muddled money. Couldn't even hear that one. Yeah. I think this would be the one

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hot damn I love you guys.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Come on. How's that?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Well, you oversold it. Let's put it that way. Okay. All right.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

What's your I

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

mean, bear in mind, but I have the mindset Claggett the classic. I gotta thank you.

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John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, true. I got it true. It's true.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I think mine is definitely better.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

I think that my thank yous better than your beer.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I love you guys. Damn, I love you guys. And it's true. No, I think this hot damn, I

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love you guys.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Come on. That's a it's a he loves who? Who, who? What? Who?

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Okay, okay, you can have it but I'm like It's under advisement under advisement

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just JC

Adam CurryAdam Curry

and sometimes Adam time for the tip of the week it's getting pretty popular. People are worried you won't be able to keep up the pace but we are very excited why

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

can keep up the pace? That's what she said and okay I got a recommended website to go buy stuff had to compete with Amazon I should have known about this I don't understand why I didn't. They have everything you want to find a shirt. Do you want underwear? Do you want a sports car? Do you want a robot lady?

Adam CurryAdam Curry

Hold on This sounds too good to be true.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Ollie Express or a li expresses it's a new Ali Baba competitor to Amazon is worldwide the EU is freaked out about it. Oh, you can find anything and some of the weirdest stuff you'll ever see. But they have everything every category of every sort of thing, including the bionic beauty robot the Oriental elegant simulation what robot she's $6,900 But most

Adam CurryAdam Curry

stuff is like you priced or is it best price though is the best price it's gotta

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

be but meanwhile shirt $6 There's this you were on the front page for six bucks for assured anything is always dirt. Everything is dirt cheap, except the bionic lady which is probably still inexpensive. But Ollie express it free shipping on everything.

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And now John C. Dvorak with the tip of the day. Wow.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

A li Express Ali Express ala Express.

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

Well, that is nuts as you'll go nuts.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

That's a great tip of the day, John, thank you. I can't wait to go nuts on AliExpress and that wraps up episode 1669 of the best podcast in the universe. Coming up next on the no agenda dot stream on your modern podcast. Pick one up at podcast apps.com Or in the troll room troll room.io We've got bowls and buds on the way

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Adam CurryAdam Curry

a lot of people come up to me say we really liked the screen stream is so good. We love the stream so thank you bemrose and cotton gin for keeping that rolling with zeros and bucketfuls of buds. That's right

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

was that compete with bowl after bowl?

Adam CurryAdam Curry

I not on the stream. It doesn't. They're never on at the same time. Coming to you from the heart of the airport. 11 feet under sea level Schiphol Airport, the Amsterdam the Netherlands in the morning everybody. Were here. It's almost really in the morning. I'm Adam curry

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

and from Northern Silicon Valley where I'm actually 350 feet above sea level and Johnson remember

Adam CurryAdam Curry

us at no agenda donations.com We'll talk to you on Thursday. Adios mauve mofos who you are and such.

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Remember when he said the United States can be summed up in one word Americans a nation that can be defined in the Civil War as totally lost see no so as far as Joe Biden speaking gaps this might beat that because he knows so long as you think about I thought he was scanning 40 jobs without the DOP. Let's get his word you started doing Ella Fitzgerald little scat or you put him I have a question for conspiracy theorists if Adrenochrome was

real. How come it ain't helping Biden former sentence foothills of the Himalayas? Well he didn't take his shot today it's like having toilet paper in your shoe and he told him no one tells you not to think about it. This might beat that. So you know last longer. What you're seeing is instead of that America is a nation defined in the civil word. Let's get to the devil orgy.

I got him in scatting doing Ella Fitzgerald well scat while he didn't take a shot today, do you know see No, so long as America is a nation that can be defined in the Civil War? How you put him

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

thinking of putting up a porn site? Yeah, no,

Adam CurryAdam Curry

no, yes. Yeah, no, you know what? Yes. What happened? In my head

Unknown

Is everyone here the casting is applied to every listener and everything at bars to like every viewer whatever it is most respected and you've been doing this a long time and you're like a clean in this space is no joke I'm thinking of putting up a porn site it is I couldn't open it just popped in there one just

John C DvorakJohn C Dvorak

showed up in my head

Unknown

She's a queen in this space. In this space is hard.

Adam CurryAdam Curry

It's a grind John. We just make it look easy

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