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Episode 13 - Life, Learning, and Letting Go: A Deep Dive

Jun 27, 20251 hr 4 minEp. 13
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Okay, we are live on Facebook. Boo. Are you sure? Yes, I'm sure I can see us on my phone. Look. There you go. Yeah. Well done. You sure enough to be unsure? I'm sure enough to be sure. Sure. So who on here we are. So how have you been? I've just got back from the lovely espania. I had a lovely time. And you've been busy working and healing. Yeah. They let you in and they let you back out? Did they Tina? They did let me in and out.

Yes. Yes. It sounded like you had a, a, what I call it, it was a really Moorish time, wasn't it? Where you were gran. It was a very Moorish time. It was a fabulous place. I've never been to Granada before. Uh, the Alhambra was amazing and Cordoba was really cool. It. Hmm. Well, I am, I am kind of envious. I haven't been away for quite a while. Mm-hmm.

Um, but I have been enjoying my time in Epsom as many of the people in the Secret Ages of change membership group have been experiencing, getting the insights of all the places I like to tour around. Again, a again, a, a tour of the Surrey Parks Group. Yeah, I did. I must find some new places to go. Places. Places, car park, new places this time sound a bit dodgy. Me sitting around in car parks, doesn't it? It does. Yeah. Yeah. Please. It does get arrested. Let's, let's edit this and move on.

So yeah, I've been doing a lot of, a lot of healing. Yeah. Um, just kind of resting and, you know, eating healthy and doing lots of walking and Qigong and, and lots of reading and, uh. But all, well, we're into September now, aren't we? But yeah, three months to Christmas. Yeah. Seriously. Oh my God. Yeah. We just gonna mention this every month, don't we? Um, yeah, August was a bit quiet. I like August because it does go very quiet. I used to go away every August and do something different.

Um, but there's a, I dunno about you. Have you noticed there's like a vibe of things starting to pick up again in September? There is. Yeah, there is. Yeah. I mean, I, I missed my traveling too. Uh, and as there was this presidential directive not allowing me into the us not just me by the way, people, lots of people from, yeah. The year of the uk I have seen posters. Yeah. Do not allow this woman in. Yeah. Yeah. Wise choice. Um, we decided to run away to Spain because we could.

Nice. Yeah. Really nice. Well here we are, uk we're Planet Earth, mission Control Central, and we are back with our live. Aha. And, um, it's been, I, I really enjoyed the sessions this, this month. In fact, I enjoy them every month actually. I like listening to yours and I like listening back to mine as well. 'cause I never know what I'm gonna do till I've done it, which is always a big surprise for me. I've got themes and then I just see what, what comes out.

And we've had some good feedback from people again. So, um, I'm not checking on Facebook, so I dunno who's here and, and who's on yet. Um, we've got some good questions for some people. Um, uh, who have we got? There's, we've got some comments already. So, Jane Caldwell is there. Hi Jane. Hi Jane. So we have Marco in Roma. Uh, we've got San Jess watching us and Tanya is watching. She's keeping an eye on, okay, so we got a tiny little group, but hey, that's a group, that's our people.

It's getting bigger. There's more. Yeah. And people will see it over and over the next couple of weeks. And what we will be doing, guys, just so you know, the, um, the Facebook Live will be left in the Facebook group just for about a week or so. Then we're gonna take it out. So it'll only be available after that, almost like a replay for people in the membership group. Okay? So if you're here, if you know the ahas are on, um, grab them when they're live.

Um, but they'll be around for about a week and then they'll be disappearing off of the, uh, off the Facebook group. But they'll be available for those people who are in the membership group for, for eternity. Forever. That's no. Shall we, my, my, my, my timelines. We're both talking about time, aren't we? Yeah. We, we were talking, having conversations about time, um, and how time flies and ages and things like that. So I need a state change. Okay, here we go. Right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Som I'm So let's back in the nap. Let's throw, let's throw the first question out. Um, okay. And this is from the US of a, so I dunno whether he is actually watching right now because he might be working 'cause it's the afternoon. Um, how do we install amnesia now? I dunno about you, but I forget. Yeah. What do you think? Amnesia? Well, I forget, I, I forget to remember, or do I remember to forget? I'm not quite sure.

Do you know what I, I'm getting really good at not having to install amnesia nowadays because I seem to something more. Yeah. Um, I have my, not put notepads because, uh, some of, you know, um, back in December, 2019 and I had a mild stroke and I've shared that story with a few people and, um, I have no recollection of the end of December, January, most of February. And yeah, I, I can kind of recall March.

So in terms of amnesia, I, I'm really good at experiencing, in fact, Tina helped me to recalibrate time. 'cause I was struggling to have a sense of when today was, when tomorrow is a week of a month's time, et cetera. See, I'm even anchoring it now. Can you see that it's still in place? Yeah. Yep. Good. For, so it's, um, you know, installing amnesia is not, um, a difficult thing for me. Actually. I find it quite easy to forget things.

Um, I I, what I've learned about amnesia and memory is that I have to do something which I never used to do, which is to purposely think about the things I want to remember. Yeah. Mm-hmm. So, I'm, I'm looking at this in, I'm gonna answer this in a slightly different way. I'm gonna twist it around. It's not about amnesia, but what do we need to do in order to have a good memory? Because then I think with amnesia, we all, we just have to do the opposite. Yeah. Yeah. Does that makes sense?

Yeah. So like for, for me to remember things now, things I used to easily remember, I have to make a real mental note and pay attention to them and go back to them again and again, again, at least two, three times very quickly before I go back in and I now know I have to call someone. I now, now I have to have something done by this particular time. Okay. Yeah. So, so I, I'm kind of answering this question on the fly. Okay. Which is why I'm kind of jazzing around a little bit with it.

But, uh, I never had to, never had to do that prior, you know, because if something was important to me and I thought about and I was gonna do it, and I needed to remember, it's almost like it locked in a lot quicker. Mm-hmm. It doesn't seem to be happening so easily now. Um, I'm not saying it won't happen because it's something I've been working on. Um, so I think in terms of installing amnesia. It's a case of not doing repetition with something.

So for example, um, if I parked my car in a car park previously, I'd have looked around and gone, oh, this is where it's parked. And I, that would've been enough in order to install the memory to find my car later. Now, if I do that, that doesn't seem to be enough. So I have to make a, a note of it. I even have to take a photograph of it and do something two or three times in order to get the same memory lock in that I used to do previously.

Yeah. So if I wanted to have amnesia for something, I really wouldn't pay much attention to it. You know, it's like I, I'd use, I wouldn't use the strategy for memory in order to create amnesia. I'd kind of just wouldn't really pay attention to something they just wouldn't lock in. No, I dunno that if that's, uh, the best answer, if it's an answer, which it's just occurred to me, it's just an answer that's occurred to me in, in relation to what I have to do now in order to, to remember things.

And I can't give of a better answer in a minute as well. There's something else will bubbling the way. What do you think about this in, well, when he, when he mentioned it, I thought of when we've done, um, when we used to demonstrate a hypnotic space show. Do you remember we did that a few times? Yeah. 1, 2, 3, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10. Yeah. And we had people forget the number seven. Um, yeah.

And we had people forget all sorts of things, uh, by using direct suggestion, by getting an agreement with their subconscious mind, by using idio motor re responses or finger signals. Uh, so installing trance and getting an agreement with the subconscious that they were willing to forget. Just like Paul McKenna has done for many of his stage shows and many other stage hypnotists. But then I thought, I do use the amnesia suggestions.

So if I'm working with somebody that has an addiction or something they want to give up, I put that habit in the forgetful place in their brain. So while they're in tra, I talk about how we all have a forgetful place. You know, we forget telephone numbers, we forget people's names. There's all sorts of things that people forget really easily. And then I have the unconscious go and find the forgetful area of the brain. And again, by using finger signals and through hypnosis, I have them put the.

Thing they want to forget in their forgetful place and close the door. And that's worked really well because people forget to snort cocaine. They forget to smoke cigarettes, they forget to drink alcohol. Um, so that's worked very well with clients. Mm-hmm. No, I like that. And actually, as you were saying there I was, two things were happening. One, I was having to inoculate myself against your suggestions about people forgetting. Yeah. I was gonna stop it. Stop it. I'm listening.

This what it I'm to say next. He's everybody's remembering to forget. Steve's going to be the, the person that flips it around and remembers to remember and forgets to forget. Exactly, and what I remembered remembering to do with clients when I used to see a lot of one-to-one clients was something very similar where, and it's almost like the opposite of what I was saying about remembering something.

When you need need to remember saying, I locked it in and lock it in and lock it in, do it two or three times and it's the newer pathways locked in that gives me the Q picture that tells me what it is that I need to remember. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well the opposite is scrambling. Yeah, it's scrambling. It's either misdirection confusion or laying something else over that patterning. Yeah. So when we used to do the.

We used to use it as a bit of a convincer, just for those of you that never did a hypnosis training with Tina and myself, we'd al we'd always start off day one with the, give people a bit of a wow experience because not everyone that was there was really convinced that hypnosis worked, even though they were on a hypnotherapy, you know, course. And one of the most wow experiences you can have on a course like that is to be hypnotized in the first 10, 15 minutes.

So we would almost like turn it into a very quick stage show by telling stories about sometimes, you know, we might have done trainings before and we'd hypnotize people within the first 10 minutes so their feet are stuck to the ground. So when they stand up, they can't move, can they, can you? So we do all these things and I was always surprised every single time where. So many people in the room listen to the su suggestions that were now stuck to their chairs or stuck sitting down.

Yeah. Or even just telling the stories about, you know, the numbers. Yeah. Missing numbers, getting the hand stuck and Yeah. Getting the hand stuck. Yeah. So people are really highly suggestible, so don't underestimate the power of a direct suggestion. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Um, although we had a context where we are teaching hypnosis, there's an expectation we're gonna be hypnotized, and we say we are both hypnotists.

Hmm. So we would give people these really incredible wow experiences at the very beginning. Yeah. Um, and one of the things I, I remember when I used to do a lot of one-to-one with people was I would do very much the same as you. I'd say there's something that, um, you forgot to remember. Mm-hmm. 'cause it wasn't important. Yeah. And if you, if you think it's that one, it's not that one.

Um, because if you can remember what it is, it's something different, which means your unconscious mind knows how to remember to forget things that just aren't important. And all this work we've just done is something that you can now put into the same category. So I didn't use the containers you did, which I like. It's into the exactly the same place. Mm, as all the other things that you can begin to start to forget to remember now off into the future. And, you know, just really future pace.

And it's all confusing language. It's like scrambling the brain. And that has a, a, it's a very impactful way of getting people to forget things. I must, any of you that listened to Richard's hypnotic, what was it? Um, amnesia. Amnesia. Negation. Negation. That's fabulous. The language in that is just so, it is elegant. It's high comedy as well. Um. It is, but that really is scrambling and pattern, uh, pattern disruption, disrupting. Um, so yeah, I think direct suggestions.

If you wanna install amnesia, direct suggestions, confusion and anything, which is the opposite of installing a memory. I, I did what once, um, Joshua and, uh, this is my grandson, for those of you that don't know, and he's like six foot two and nearly 18 now. But when he was, I don't know, nine years old, uh, the ice cream van came past the house and ding, ding, ding, ding. And he said, mommy, mommy, can I have ice cream? And she said, no, you haven't had your dinner. And he went, okay.

And he waited. And then he said, you are very forgetful, aren't you, mummy? And I went, what did you say? He said, you forget lots of things. I mean, just earlier today, you forgot. Keys. Keys. And then a little while ago, you completely forgot what you had said, haven't you? And then he said, can I have some ice cream? Mommy? And she went, of course you can. And she gave him a pound to go and get some ice cream, and he came back with his ice cream. He, and I said, who taught you how to do that?

And he went, you did grandma? And then he just went and sat at his ice cream and he was like nine years old. Yeah. Before he'd done temple shifts. There's temple shifts as well. Yeah. Brilliant. Lovely. Yeah. Beautiful. It's also something else in terms of installing amnesia, which goes beyond, uh, verbal communication. Mm-hmm. Uh, if when you retrieve something.

The, the image that pops up that gives you the, the information that you're looking for, um, whether it's visual, auditory, but let's, let's say there's this visual content, um, you can take, you can overlay something in front, somebody else's visual recall. Uh, some of you watching this might not be aware of that, but I had a really, um, profound experience of this with Richard. Okay. When we were teaching stations. And he asked me, he said, so how did they do?

So we mentioned this before, stations are where they do the exercises. Yeah. On the, on the trainings. And you go around, no, not group number one. Uh, group number one, group number 2, 3, 4. And I used to remember who did what. 'cause I could visualize number one. Number two, who was there. So I started off by going, well, uh, the first one was Clive. He was teaching something that, uh. And then my picture disappeared. Mm-hmm.

The picture that I was using to retrieve the information from just disappeared. Okay. And most of you know that you can actually reach out to other people's pictures and grab them and tear them up and do all sorts of things like that. And, you know, Alessandro, the Italians are great at this, aren't they? With their gestures, you know, knocking pictures outta the way. Um, but my picture disappeared and I thought, I can't, my mind's gone blank. I can't remember what happened.

And I'm there with Richard by the side of me waiting for me to explain what's gone on. And then he laughed and said, you can have your picture back. I went and it came back. Okay. But how did you do that? He didn't answer that. Okay. No, he did. He said easily, right? Yeah. And I thought, okay, he's not gonna teach me how to do that. I have to go and work out how to do that. And I did, I worked out, and there's many ways you can do that.

One is to take a picture of something and overlay in front of something. Yeah. Um, or to actually with your own gaze, move the picture away. So if that's something that, uh, some of you watching this weren't even aware you could do, that's something to go and play with. You know, taking your visual output and putting it, imposing it in front of somebody else's. You've just reminded me, um, I was, I'm glad many, many, many years ago. I'm remembering, I'm remembering.

Many years ago, uh, in a board meeting my, when I was working, uh, for an investment bank in the city of London, my manager, director was sitting next to me. Um, and I. I just finished my NLP practitioner and I'm sitting there and she's called us all in at five o'clock in the morning so we could have this board meeting and we can include people in Tokyo or somewhere. And she's going, and I'm tired and I'm grumpy.

And she said, so the agenda for the day is, and she started to do this with her hand, and I thought her agenda is there. It's there. Ooh. And at that point, I hadn't figured out that I could move it energetically. Mm-hmm. And the person sitting over there didn't have any coffee. And the coffee pot was through her picture. So I stood up and I went through her picture to get coffee for my colleague, and then she went. So I. So what we are gonna do today is, and she laid her agenda out again.

I deleted her agenda five times and it was such fun. Mm. Uh, maybe this is a, an area we can run a practice group. Session on. Yeah. Yeah. Um, because, uh, I'm just talking to someone we both know. I won't mention their name 'cause it's not fair to mention their name. Um, but they, they came to see me about seven years ago actually.

And we were just, we were just kind of playing with, um, submodalities of, because he said to me, he said, do you remember that thing you did where you imprinted a, an image in my mind? I went, no, I don't remember that. Sorry. Yeah. To remind me that I said, oh no, you thought of something and imprinted it, wrote it down and, and it was what it was what I thought of. I went, oh, yeah, yeah, I did that. You know, I'd forgotten I'd done that.

So we just spent an afternoon just playing with that, how, how we could construct a visual representation and almost imprint it or present it in front of somebody else's. Um, it's, it's like really putting your thoughts inside somebody else's mind, to be honest. Yeah. Um, so it's not amnesia. Um, it's really kind of, I guess. Forcing somebody to think about something that you would like them to think about. It's great, by the way, for poker to play poker. Oh yes.

Yeah. If you want to, um, put somebody off their game, then you take your cards that you want them to think you have and project those in front of 'em, and they're really not sure what you've got at all. Um, so maybe that's something just to note for the future that, that we can Yeah, I have made a play with the submodalities. Yeah, yeah. Playing with sub modalities of images. Yes. So hopefully that helped them.

The other thing I'd like, I, I'd be interested to know is why do they want install amnesia? Because, you know, um. But in fact, there's one last bit I want personally I wanna say about this. That when it comes to certain traumatic experiences, a lot of people think it's a good thing to have amnesia for something, which is really traumatic. And, and I actually made that mistake myself when I first got going. I was working with, um, victims of abuse.

It wasn't by choice, it just, I happened to work with somebody on a hypnosis diploma I was on. And it worked. It was really effective. It wasn't the hypnosis, it was the NLP that I was doing. Yeah. And then I got to work with her support group and it seemed like a good idea that beginning to give them amnesia, then I realized that wasn't a good thing 'cause they wouldn't remember what had happened. Um, and it's almost like the brain knows there's something missing as well.

Yeah. So just be a bit, you know, um, think of the ecology when you are doing amnesia. One, do you have permission to do it? Yeah. Um. And are there some things where it's important to have some recollection of it just so we can learn from it as well? Yeah. So Richard tells a story, some of you that have trained with Richard will remember him telling this story of somebody coming to see him. 'cause he wanted to stop smoking. So he had the guy forget that he was ever a smoker.

And then his wife came seeing Richard and she was going crazy because he was having, uh, his wife because she smoked and she's going, but you are a smoker. And he's going, no, I have never smoked, I have never smoked, I would never smoke. And it caused all sorts of issues. Yeah. So amnesia is not necessarily a good thing for some things. And you have be careful how you set it up and how you install it. Yeah, just think of the ecology. Yeah. Cool. Have we answered that one? I think we have.

So next question coming up now. So with regard to hypnotic anesthesia, I'm wondering about the best strategy for joint pain, especially when weight bearing. I mentioned this because one of my client's pain reduced from 10 to zero when non ambient, but wasn't sustained when she walked. Wow. So, hmm. My first thought when I read this is, pain is a signal that something needs attention. Um, so when you take the pain away and it goes down to zero, that's lovely. But then when they're walking.

Are they then getting the signal back that they need to deal with something? Are they obese, morbidly obese? Maybe they're too heavy for that particular joint because there is something in there that they need to lose weight to make it more comfortable. Is my first thought. How about you? Yeah, I, I, exactly. Same thought. Very similar actually. Um, I think of pain as like the alarm on a car. Okay. We have, we have the alarm on the car that lets us know when saint's gone wrong in this case.

If it gets broken into, yeah. Um. But imagine the alarm was going off and it became hypertensive. The, the alarm becomes a nuisance. The tendency then is to wanna switch the alarm off, but now it leaves you vulnerable. Okay? So if somebody's got joint pain and we switch it off completely, they're not getting the signal that tells them to pay attention and be careful so they could actually cause more damage.

So what I would do in that situation, I wouldn't necessarily be looking to get it down to zero when they're moving, but I'd let the system work out. Get the unconscious to work out what is a, a, the right and appropriate signal for the person to get so that they're paying attention. In this case it might be, you know, walk carefully or don't walk so much or take some action such as, you know, Tina mentioned, you know, lose some weight or whatever it might be.

Um, so they're still getting the signal, but it's not at a 10. Okay. You know, sometimes it's like the car alarm doesn't need to be blasted out. We kind of just need a signal to go, Hey, someone's nicking your car. Uh, so I would be looking to recalibrate that signal. 'cause it, the system might be going, no, we can turn this down because they're gonna cause even more damage if they could just keep on walking. Um, so that's what I would look to do with that.

Yeah. Yeah. I would look at underlying conditions. What, what is the pain signal telling them? Even do something like six step reframing on it to figure out Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. What is the meaning behind that pain? What is it doing for them? What's it telling them? What does it need? Yeah. And, and use the IMR signals as well to go, you know, are you willing to drop the signal down from 10 to a nine if you go Yes. Okay. From a nine to an eight.

Yes. And you calibrate it down to that, down to a level where the system goes, this is okay. We can, uh, we can, willing to reduce the pain, but we're not necessarily willing to switch it off. Yeah. You can also look at not just reducing the pain level, but the pain duration in terms of time. So for example, would you be willing to, would the system be willing to only give the signal for a minute or two as long as they're paying attention and walking appropriately?

Yeah. Um, and let the system work out, you know, so I've certainly been talking to the unconscious and using IMR signals with somebody, um, in that situation. Years ago, um, I worked with a, an older woman and she was in her seventies and she had chronic pain and she couldn't walk. And, uh, I, she came to see me, I hypnotized her, and at the end of the session, she had no pain.

And that afternoon her husband took her down to Brighton, to the lanes, and she wandered around for hours and she had no pain whatsoever. She had a wonderful time. The minute she came home and she walked into her house, the pain came back. Now, after some investigation, the pain actually gave her a huge secondary gain. So then we dealt with the conflict, what was going on with the secondary gain, and then she was able to be pain free.

But also, I would never take pain away from anybody completely. Without making sure that they had been to their doctors. So we knew that there wasn't some medical thing surrounding this signal they're getting. Yeah, and there's just, uh, a couple other things I would just like to sort of raise, relate to that one is, um, the NLP presuppositions, you know, I always like to have them floating around somewhere to see where something fits in and relates to those.

Now every behavior serves a, a as a purpose at some context, you know, it's a benefit of some context. So this pain is serving a purpose. You know, it may be an inconvenient, may be a nuisance to the person. They may want it gone, but it's serving a purpose. What's the, what's the underlying message behind the pain and find that out. And do the ecology check as well, because sometimes the pain won't disappear because it will affect something else. Just like Tina was giving an example.

So look, look, look for the ecology check and just, you know, find out the reasoning behind the pain, not for them consciously. 'cause they won't have a clue. You know, it's gotta be an unconscious conversation. So the next one, uh, okay, so I this, ooh, this is for you thinking about the inspiring view at Horton Country Park. Okay. And your mention of TQ Gong and the longest of cheek gone cheek on, sorry, sorry. And the long list of inspiring reads.

I'm wondering how you manage your time to achieve so much. Okay. Very well. Thank you. Great. So next? Yeah, the next question. Well, the answer is, you know, we, we talked about this quite a few times. Um, so it's a really, really good question. Um, only 24 hours in the day. I prioritize my time. Mm. And I manage my time.

It doesn't mean I'm busy being busy all the time, far from it, you know, I have huge chunks of time, which are downtime, but I do separate my time in, in terms of working on me and, you know, for me time, you know, working on my business and working in the business. And the way I keep track of that, and I mentioned this before and I don't, I'm not an affiliate and I don't get commissioned. I use a thing called Tim.

I could just press the button or if, if I'm in my office, I've got my little octahedron and I turn it over and I go, I'm working on the NLP masterclass and it tracks my time so I know what I've done, how much time I've spent on something, and I always, uh, I've got my note pad here. At the end of the day when we finish here, I'm gonna review and prepare my notes for the next day. So when I'm finished, I don't have to think about work at all.

Um, so when I wake up and I have my morning routine, when I'm ready to go to work, I know I've already planned what I'm going to going to do. Yeah. Um, so there's a lot of pre-planning comes for that, but my list only includes the 20% that's gonna make the biggest difference. Yeah. I will look at something and go, is this really gonna move the needle? Is this activity really gonna make a a, you know, is it the difference that's gonna make the difference?

And if it's not, I'm gonna not spend my time on it, I'll, I'll delegate it out to somebody. So it, it is a just a bit of discipline. Mm. Um, practice and, and speed reading as well. You know, one of the first things I became really fascinated by when I first got into NLP and Hypnosis, um, out, out of necessity by the way, because I remember the product desk, the product desk used to, you know, back in the day 20 years ago, were very different to the recent product desk.

They contained some really weird stuff, you know, really esoteric stuff, you know, and, and I'm not saying Richard's stuff was esoteric, but all the state of the art videos were there. Um, and I spent 375 pound on my practitioner carrying back carrier bags full of books. And I remember getting home and videos and thinking, I've got so much to learn. In this NLP hypnosis coaching world, uh, how am I gonna get through it?

And I thought to myself, I need to get a book on speed reading and a book on memory. I need to, I need to use NLP to master accelerated learning techniques. And I remember sitting there once with, uh, book on memory and a book on speed read and go, which do I read first? Do I speed read so I can do that? Or do I do this so I can remember how the speed read? Let's just do both. Um, uh, so yeah, I, I learned how to speed read.

In fact, I had a meeting with someone on Tuesday and we were talking about this because we've taught people how to do speed reading on some of the coaching courses. We You did actually the miss Master pracs. Master pracs. No, because we were teaching strategies and, yeah. Yeah. And, uh, this guy, um, we were talking about stuff, uh, just having a catch up. He said, oh, 'cause all those years ago said, you, you. You talked about speed reading and I never really believed it. And I said, yeah.

I said, even though you had the most convincing experience, I said, because he was in my office and he said, you know, you, you talked about speed reading twice before. Does it really work? I said, yeah, it works. You know, I said, we did a practice group where I taught people how to do speed reading, got to speed, read a piece, and then answered questions later. And they remembered more from the bit. They'd sp red, sp red spread red, just reading sp red.

Um, he said, yeah, where can I find out why? He said, could you keep mentioning, you mentioned this thing called old trad and rhythms when the brain switches every 45 minutes. Left hemisphere, right? Has I said, yeah, that's, uh, Ernest Ross's psychology mind body healing, page 136. You can find out more about that. He goes. Really? I went, I don't know, it just popped up into my head. Okay. I said, let's go and find out. And I remember going and grabbing it and going, oh my God, it is.

It's page 136. Uh, ultradian rhythms, Ross's psychology, mind body healing. I said, I sped read that book. Okay. Read my brain. Took it in and learned that information. And what a wonderful, convincing experience that speed reading works. Yeah. So yeah, I speed read, I go through a lot of books. Doesn't mean I speed read everything. And that's why I go through a lot of work, learn a lot of new things, and I do make sure I put it into practice straight away.

And I think that's important, especially for you guys in the membership group. If you're watching and learning, put what we teach and train into practice because it goes then from being theoretical, you know, knowledge in here to experiential. So yeah, that's why I do accelerated learning and a bit of discipline. And a lot of time doing nothing as well. Wow. Oh, too, there's one other, there's one other thing. You have to be lazy. Yeah. There we go. You have to be lazy.

Yeah. I'm very lazy and that's how I get so much done because I need to get it done quickly, efficiently, and out the way so that then I can Yeah. Be lazy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So the next question. Okay. Um, so we ha we start with a quote. The doubt it is uncomfortable, but only idiots never have any by Voltaire. Hmm. The doubt that is uncomfortable, but only idiots never had any, yeah. Okay. Never. Yeah. Okay. Never, ever doubt. Um, so the question is, what would you suggest.

To deepen our study regarding the new challenges of the day after the pandemic, do we suggest calibration, empathy, empathy, humor or benile amnesia? What do we suggest to deepen our understanding was that, what do we repeat that To deepen our study. Regards our study. Okay. So I guess that review, I'm assuming, and now this is someone who English is their second language. This is Marco. So he was using second language love. Um, yeah, his, his, his English is way better than my Italian.

I'm sorry Marco. I'm still indeed and mine. Mm. Yeah. Um, so I guess we're looking at, my pressure would be. Reviewing the challenges of the day after the pandemic. Yeah. Rather than it being a study, you know, you're gonna do a PhD on the, uh, although it might be an interesting, uh, study to do a PhD on strategies and, um, attitudes and mindsets post pandemic. Um, okay. I, I, well, there's something about that I, I've got a lot about that actually. It's just popping up into my head.

So let's just see where it all goes. Um, I think it's about maintaining a degree of rapport with what's going on outside. Mm-hmm. In the, in the bigger world. Okay. Um, and lemme tell you what I mean by that. Um, by probably giving an example of when, um, the pandemic first started. That rapport with what was going on then. So in this case, you know, I'm thinking of rapport as being a, a degree of understanding of what's going on. Okay. Rather than being in rapport with everyone.

But a lot of people were, went into freeze, fight, flight, um, stop spending and report would mean not kind of just ignoring it and carrying on a business of normal because we are positive. Yeah, yeah. Having a degree of, you know, looking around and going, well, most people wallets have shut shop, you know, shut closed, and they're gonna stay closed for a while. People are holding onto their resources, they're doing the freeze, they're doing the holding.

Um, so this is probably not the best time to just be positive and just launch a new venture. Okay? Mm-hmm. So I think there's a, there's an element of, uh, maintaining a degree of rapport. And reality, but without being drawn into the hypnosis of any real negativity. Yeah. Because I think the psychology now is, is very different to the very beginning. At the very beginning, I, I wouldn't have gone against any of the, um, the, the lockdown behaviors that people had.

There was no point, you know, like most of the work we were doing earlier on was just, you know, helping and being of service rather than selling. Yeah, yeah. Um, I would be looking at my particular industry and making sure that, um, I don't get drawn into huge generalizations about people's buying patterns, for example. Yeah. There will be plenty of people that lockdown hasn't, you know, the pandemic doesn't affect them financially. They're still spending the same as they were, so I would.

I'll be very careful not to get drawn into any huge generalizations about limitations or poverty thinking or, you know, restrictions. 'cause it's too easy to go to to hypnotize yourself by. So, so much of the negative news It is, it is. It's so, so easy to be pulled in. Um, sorry, I've just got to Tanya, please stop messaging me 'cause you are pinging. Thanks. Um, okay, so while you, while you stop with Tan Tanya, give, give a context.

You know, we, we are running seminars and people are paying and turning up in seminars. Yeah. And then there are still people that are going, I don't wanna go to a seminar at the moment. There are. Okay. Yeah. So as much as we can, we, we marketing as much as we we're. Um, positive. As much as we're creating the place, you're still working against the reality of other people's, um, behaviors. Yeah. Yeah. So we wouldn't be expecting 150, 300 people on a training at the moment.

Yeah. Not, without doing a lot more, a lot more work than we would've done previously. Yeah. Yeah. People are being very circumspect. They're, they're watching, they're waiting. Um, they're, they're talking and they're saying that they really want to come and do the course, but they don't feel comfortable going into a room with, with lots of people right now. So rather than do it now, you know, what are we doing like next year? Um, and I think there is a lot of hesitancy still.

And of course there's also a lot of, um, bullshit out there. I mean, when I was in Spain, I was in Spain for two and a half weeks. Um. I was being told, this was what was in the media in Spain, that in England, because we had no lorry drivers, shelves were empty, nobody could get any food, people were gonna be starving. Um, um, and I thought, oh, and when I came back and I went into, um, went into the shop and I'm thinking, oh no, there's still plenty of food here. It's, it's still okay.

So people are, are being driven by, by fear. Yeah. And when people go into fear, um, they end up doing that MSU strategy, don't they? Where they kind of make stuff up. Yeah, yeah, they true. Yeah. Um, and, and the fears get exaggerated. So I think there's an element and, and being, it'd be, I'd liked to have had the conversation about this, you know, in what specific context we talking about business or we just talking generally.

So I'm gonna make an assumption he's talking about business, unless that was actually in the question, um, and I missed it. Um, so Marco says here, the crisis is always personal question mark. Okay. I don't, I dunno what that means. Um, but I, I'm just gonna make an assumption just to answer a question he's gonna ask is about business. Yeah. I'd just be checking, uh, doing lots of reality checking.

What I mean by that is I've been doing a lot of research and talking to people and finding out what the moods are rather than just, uh, you know, what people's, um, real decisions are gonna be rather than just making assumptions or going by the media. Yeah, for sure. So for example, um, like taking the lorry driver example. Yeah. Well, we, in the UK we are 14,000 lorry drivers short, uh, because of post Brexit.

And they've been nationally six, uh, 600 new lorry drivers trained in the last three months. Now how do I know that? Tanya, because I read a lot. Okay. And I keep up on the business news 'cause I'm interested in, in trends, you know, where there are gaps, where there are problems. 'cause when there are problems, there are solutions. So for example, if one of my clients needs lorry drivers, um, there's an, there's an opportunity there.

Yeah. Um, or if one of my clients is looking for labor, but there's, uh, other companies are spending money recruiting lorry drivers. So there are, there are supermarkets that are going, yeah, we are short of lorry drivers, so we're gonna give 2000 pound bonuses to anyone that comes along and signs up and does a loy driver training. Then they may not, they may not, may not be able to recruit people.

Yeah. So I like to do the research and really get into, you know, the facts before I start making any commercial decisions. I. So, like for example, with our training, we know that people's buying patterns are different to what they were, are there enough people? More than enough? So it's not gonna stop us. Yeah. We just have to work a little bit more, us a little bit more, make a little bit more noise than maybe we did before.

Um, so just don't get drawn into any of the negative hypnosis, but also have a re reality check. And if it's a personal thing, um, I am very careful when I'm out and about and I'm doing things. I mean, I don't know about Italy in Spain. Everybody's still wearing masks here in the uk. Oh, hang on Marco. Okay. I mean, exist internal reality, external reality, and fake news reality. It's a lot of work. So I think he's talking about the fact that.

You've got what's actually happening out there, what's happening in their head, and the rubbish they're being fed. So you're doing these systems. Yeah. It's a great opportunity to install amnesia for rubbish. Yeah. Yeah, that's what I was thinking actually. It's too easy to hypnotize people, isn't it? Look, we, we know this, we are hypnotists. It's very easy to hypnotize people.

We only need people to, you know, believe things and give them a few little nuggets of what they perceive to be, um, you know, reality and data. And it can be locked in and then they don't, and then you've go work really hard to change that, that fixed belief. So I, I'm very, um, aware of that. And willing to be uncertain of my certainty in certain things.

Yeah. Yeah. And, and also to be aware that there are people out there around you that have different beliefs and values and may not feel as safe as you do. Uh, and just treat them with kindness. Yeah, yeah. Re respect other people's, um, belief systems, no matter how bonkers they are. Yeah, yeah. That's fine. Basically. Yeah. Yeah. Treat them with kindness. Yeah. It's 'cause we're, we're all, um, we're all perfect, aren't we? It's like that, that drive in metaphor.

Anyone that drives faster than you is a maniac. Anyone that drives slower and than new is a moron. Yeah. And there we go. Driving along. Perfect. So our, our reality views of what's going on is, is, is real and everyone else is, you know, wrong now. I think it's a great time to be kind. Oh, here's one. Okay. Having worked one-to-one with clients for a couple of years now, uh, all sorts of things can crop up. What's your advice regarding continual personal development? Do it.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, okay. Well that, that's why we've got the membership group. That's why we've got the Facebook group because you know, was it gotta be 10,000 people? I've worked with Tina, you've gotta be thereabouts. You know the con the, I say the conveyor belt and the revolving door days of long gone. I don't do that anymore. No, no I don't do that anymore. That there used to be six or eight clients a day or six days a week.

Just 'cause I was fascinated, you know, I bring, bring in as many crazy people as possible. 'cause they were just fun to work with and Right. Sort 'em out and off they go. Um, so I don't think anything replaces experience. So in terms of CPD Yeah. You know, mentor mastermind groups, that's what we do here. Yeah. Membership groups. That's a great way to just keep doing your CPD practice, you know, and yeah, the more the practice is real rather than just.

You know, practice in the training room, the better, I think. Yeah. Because nothing beats actually being with someone who doesn't do. What you've been told they do. Yeah. Yeah. And then you have to work it out. That's the best way to learn. Oh yeah. That's a great way to learn. Um, and I mean, I know that you did something similar when you finished your practitioner as well. I mean, I just, I, I read everything.

Uh, I can remember going down the, the street from the TUC center where the course was and you had foils and I walked into foils and they had every book Richard had ever written. So I bought all of them. Um, and then I bought a few more by Dets and a few other people. Um, and then I bought all the videos. 'cause in those days they weren't DVDs, they were VHS videos.

I bought all the videos, and then when the course was finished, I started, I'd sit and I'd watch the videos and I'd take notes and I'd read the books, and I did the exercises in the books. And then if I found something in the book that I wasn't sure of. I did some research. What is this? How can I find out more about this? So then I might have bought different books, not necessarily NLP books, but something else that would teach me about what it was that I didn't quite understand.

And my brain still runs that program. I'm always looking for new learning, new experiences. Yeah. Uh, it never ends. Yeah, it is continuous. Eternal. Eternal. Oh, no. Eternal. Oh no, there's that word. So I'm a big, I'm a big fan of specialization when it comes to a business. You know, having a niche and specializing and becoming, you know, really mastering.

But there's something to be said at the very beginning when you're getting, especially if you're a therapist, you are in coaching, is just like coach with everybody and anybody just to really one, find out what you love working. Yeah. And, and doing to find out what you just really can't stand. That's the issue as well. Um, and to find as many people that just really don't comply with what you've been trained. So you have to work out what to do.

You know, nothing beats having that flexibility, oh, this person's really just not following my instructions. You know, how am I gonna get them to follow the instructions, you know, am I giving them the wrong instructions? You know, just be continually. Mastering by, you know, outputting and outputting and outputting all the time. Um, and you do meet some weird ones eventually, don't you? Thena I mean, you do some of the best ones where I've learned.

Well, that's where you learn the most with the weird ones. Yeah. I mean, there's one guy that came in to see me and it was for, it was he was, um, it was business. He was anxious and stressed and I'm sitting there and he kept looking and looking and I said, what are you looking for? And he goes, we are on our own, aren't we? And I went, okay, this isn't just how stress. And he was hallucinating people. And it was one of the most fun sessions I ever had where I ended up getting him.

'cause he was good at hallucinating. So hallucinated remote control. And I was able to turn jump board from Richard working with, turn him off. Andy? With Andy. Yeah. And, uh, we got the person in the room that he could see to have a clown nose and a, and a hat. Because there was the button on. And that's not in a textbook. That's not in a textbook. But that's how you learn. That's how you learn to feel comfortable being uncomfortable. Yeah, it is. So one more, here we go. Marketing is a must.

What are your tips for getting social media right? Or is that a topic you plan to address? Well, if this person is in the Secret Agents of Change membership group, it's a topic we've been addressing for four months. They may not have been aware of it. Okay. But the growth, uh, mastery path that they're on, and it's not linear it, you come back and do it again and do it again. 'cause there's different layers. We started off with psychology people, um, products, pro uh, processes, products.

Now we're moving into persuasion and influence. You have to have all the others. Um, you have to have worked on the others in order to then move into the marketing. Yeah. Because if you dunno who your people are, you dunno what their beliefs are, you dunno where they hang out. You don't know how to deal with their, um, uh, limiting beliefs. You know, you don't have all of that stuff sorted out. Well, your marketing's not gonna be particularly effective. Okay. So, um, marketing is a must.

Are we gonna deal with it? We are dealing with it. We're in a process. We are gonna be doing something which I think is really cool, um, in October to do with persuasion influence. It's something I've never trained. To a group before. Um, but it is very effective. It's some trainer. I did, um, with one of my clients, they were spending 35,000 a year on email outbound marketing. It was bringing in a million pounds worth of business.

And then I trained this, and for the same sort of bucks, it was about 35,000. They're bringing in three times that 3 million pounds worth of business. So it's something you don't need to have a big business for it to be effective and work, you know, it works perfectly well if you're a coach and you run in a small practice. So yeah, marketing is a must. But know your people. Yeah. Any marketing you do has to go to the right people.

And the more you think about the other people, you know, stop thinking about yourself. Think about the people that you're serving. The more you understand them, the better your marketing will be Eventually. Um, actually I think it's a skill that, uh, a lot of entrepreneurs don't have, by the way, and a lot of marketing people don't really have particularly well, uh, mastered and most coaches haven't got a clue about it either.

Yeah. So it is one of those areas to get some mastering and if you're in the, um, membership group, you're getting that. So we have four minutes, so I'll have, very briefly, I'm gonna come up with a question that James posted on here. She wants to strengthen her visual senses, her visual acuity. Now I remember we used to do the, um, vision streaming, didn't we? Yeah. Image streaming. Image streaming. That's it. Yeah. I forgot for a moment. See, I remembered win weger image streaming.

Yes. Yes. Jane, look up win weger image streaming. There are exercises. The Einstein factor, let's see that wrong with my memory now. Is there books? Yeah, there you go. The Einstein Factor. Win weger. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so just briefly, the um, image streaming technique is, um, Jane's probably seen that program or, um, give us a clue. There's one where you, you have a picture and little squares, uh, disappear.

There's a picture behind all these squares and a square pops away, and you just get a little glimpse of the picture and you have to say what you see. Okay. Jane's probably seen that program. Yeah. So you don't see the full picture, but you say what you're see and if you get it right, you win prizes.

Yeah. So image stream is a bit like that where you close your eyes and you imagine something and you describe it and the more you describe it, the better you become at being able to reference what you are seeing and the better you become at them, being able to manipulate it. Okay. Um, it's a great technique when done with somebody else. 'cause somebody can guide you. So the, you know, what do you see? And somebody will go, I see nothing. You know, what color is the nothing? It's black.

So we've got black, nothing. Um, what's around the peripheral? Oh, I see. Little blue lights. Okay. So tell me about the blue lights. So you have someone who keeps prompting you and the images eventually start to stream. They start to flow and. By you describing them, you're doing a couple of things. You're increasing your, your acuity, you also increasing your iq. Okay. I can't remember how many points, uh, so much image streaming does.

Um, but it, it is a great way of apparently increase in the iq. It does, yeah. It does increase your iq. Yeah. Yeah. And, and, and you could also, if you don't have anybody to prompt you, Jane, just record it on your phone. Record the audio of what you can see and what you're aware of. Um, and initially you may have a lot of nothingness, blackness with lights poking through, and then gradually it's like a curtain disappears and all is revealed. And yeah.

And actually you go through different phases of evolution when you do this. Um, I remember John Laval doing a, a, a little exercise with, um, people to do the visual, um, sensory acuity. So, so imagine a cube. See the cube in front of you. And, and I'm not saying this is exactly what John do does, 'cause I've, I've pretty sure I've changed it. So the front of the cube is red and the back of the cube is green. Can you see that as we go?

Yeah. And then, um, have a look at the other side of the cube. How did you do that? And for a lot of people, they'll turn the cube around and some people will be able to float over and float around. Yeah. If you turn the cube around. Turn it back and then attempt experiment by moving and shifting your positioning. So you are looking at it from the other side. Now at the beginning, that could be a bit challenging for some people, but they'll be able to do it with practice.

And then you practice flipping the cube over spinning the cube, putting something inside the cube. So what you're doing is you're starting to, with intent, create visual representations and manage them and control them and manipulate them. Um, and it's practice. You know, come back to CPD. Just practice and practice and practice. You could, you could look at saying, we did this on hypnosis, didn't we, Tina? Where we've got people to look at candles and then turn away and Can you see the candle?

Well, yeah, of course they can. 'cause it's imprinted. Yeah. Okay. Make the candle bigger. Make the candle smaller. And so there's loads of different ways to practice. Um, improving your sensory, um, creating images, sensory acuity. In terms of tuning in. That's another. Conversation, you know, seeing somebody else's submodalities. Yeah. I mean, that's something to add to the submodality session that we, we were talking about doing where you were moving pictures and Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Because, um, you, we've practiced, you will be able to see other, the submodalities of other people's visual representation. I know that sounds weird for some people, but, uh, yeah. Yeah. And I think that's what she meant, because she's just said on here, um, I meant tuning in. So she, I think what she's looking for is to be able to see other people's pictures. Picture. Yeah. Yeah. Well, there's an element of, it's a bit like, um, remote viewing.

Certainly for me, you know, I find, um, I have to go quiet, which is very quick, very easy to do, you know, and I don't look for it. It's almost out the peripheral. It's like some people, when they look at auras, they, they'll see them out their peripheral. When I'm observing and looking for something, if I'm looking for it, I don't tend to see it. If I'm looking past it, I can see it out. The peripheral.

Yeah. It, it's like looking at those, those, um, magic eye photos, you've gotta look through it, so you've gotta defocus your eyes and look through the person. Um, yeah, it's, it, it is something that I think would be worth us doing like a whole thing on for the, for the, for the group. Yeah, we've been talking about, I mean, it would be good to put this out to the group and see what response we get, um, about running a few more live master classes.

But we need to make sure we've got a few numbers that turn up and doing some of these more weird, um, weird. 'cause uh, I think they're magic really, rather they're not weird. Um, some of these weird things that we do with NLP, um, because all the weird stuff, but there are, um, sensible applications for them, aren't there? There are, yeah. You know, being able to, and Eric Robbie spend weeks teaching some modalities so that he get people to be able to see other people's pictures.

Yeah. And, and everyone's different. Some people can lock into that very quickly. Marco likes that plan by the way he says. Fantastic. Okay. Alright. So, so it's now eight o'clock and I think the evening was brought to you. By Infinity. Infinity Masterclass. Yeah. So look, hopefully, I mean, we aren't giving you our God likes opinions on some of the questions you've got. Um, but yeah, please guys keep the questions come in.

Uh, don't just wait until before we do the live a half to send them to us. Um, it's good to have a real archive of them and, um, yeah, some great questions. Hopefully they've been helpful. Uh oh, I just remember Tina, next Thursday, yeah, next Thursday we have Alessandra Morra from Palmer. He's going to be talking about peak performance. So those of you who are within the membership group, you will get an invite to that.

Anyway, for those of you that aren't in the membership group, dare I say, yet. Yeah. Um, you can follow the link. It's on the, uh, the masterclass page and book your place. It's only 20 pounds for the evening. It'll be teaching the more and more pattern, won't he? He will be teaching the more and more pattern. Yeah. Yeah. The blackberry, blackberry pattern. Um, yeah. I look forward to that. Really looking forward to that. Great. So, okay, so we're done. Ciao. When or not, take care everyone.

Be well. Take care and we'll see you October. See you. See you next time. Bye.

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