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you got a great book out. But I look at everything you've done, and I don't know where to begin, quite frankly, whether it's the novel, whether it's the acting, whether it's being an executive producer, whether it's like owning a castle with your husband Jay in Ireland. I mean, it's just the list goes on and on. I have to I do want to talk about the castle because how cool is that? How cool?

description of your senses. That that really is what writing is all about, you know, describing what your senses are absorbing. And I could do that with writing about the world of horses. And then in terms of what the protagonist reas goes through with loss, I can also write about that well because because I've experienced loss. I'm sure almost everyone in life at some point experiences loss, and I experienced,

at a young age losing my mom. So I was able to write from a place of, you know, kind of knowing what that feels like and knowing how that makes you feel like you're kind of on the outside looking in at the rest of the world a lot of the time, and you know that you've all of a sudden have this huge sort of chasm between yourself and everyone else. And it's not necessarily true, because a lot of people you know go through it. It's just

what it makes you feel like. And so I could write that perspective from a teenager in a very believable way, I think. And so once you have that, I think, once you have the world, and then once you have a believable protagonist who you kind of love but also watch her make these horrible mistakes and sort of cringe and think, oh my gosh, what is she doing? Then I think you've got to you know, you've got a hook. You'll you have hopefully you know, a reader who will

want to turn the page. And that's what I mean. That's hard to do, really, like you said, because we are bombarded by so much content now and books are difficult. It's a commitment to read a book.

way that she could express her hurt. And aside from the hurt of her loss, she has this father who is avoiding all of his you know, feelings at all costs. And so now she has, you know, a loss in one parent and then a loss in another in terms of he's just emotionally unavailable. Right, everyone can deal with that too, right. Everyone knows what that's like to know

an emotionally unavailable person and live with him. You know, we all have have lived with those people, you know, whether they are parents or siblings or you know, or bouses, We've all had least experience some experience with that.

But they love doing it because that's what their life is all about, you know. I think that they have a great life until there's a tragedy, you know, and winning this race is part of something that would be life changing, life altering for them for for you know, for a long time.

was creative. I thought it had heart conflict and just to set up quick, Julian more than at Benning are a gay couple and they have children because of Mark Ruffalo, who was a biological father but was anonymous, and then the kids bring him into their lives. Just how did you get involved in the project. I thought it was a great film.

like it was special. But also it was it was timing, like there was I was working on something else and and uh, a producer who was who was also working on The Kids Are all right, was I was reading my script and and so it's all I don't know, it's all very serendipitous, you know, when you come across great projects and.

is swinging. I've all also heard that it has to do with with what we're going through in our country, with with you know, things that are upsetting and war and that kind of thing. Is that if we feel like we're on the brink of disaster in our real lives. We want to watch more comforting films and content when we're you know, enjoying ourselves. That kind of makes sense to me. I don't know. I heard that somebody say that a long time ago. I kind of believe it.

I mean the entertainment Universe. They're not producing content like they were two years ago.

don't give anything a lot of time. And if you think about it, like some of the great novels that we used to read by it would take page up to page you know, fifty or one hundred until we really built up to anything that was all shadow Well. I also say it's crazy.

you know, I really don't know. I mean, I'm I would love to be part of that kind of as a consultant, but then get back to writing another novel and work on that.

it's sort of a whole day affair. Over there, and because you oftentimes, you know, you stay at a hotel and you have to drive two hours to wherever you're going to do the you know, the long trek on horseback, and then the trek is four to six hours and then it's been you know, all day. So I was like, well, I don't know, I'm not sure what your plan is because he doesn't really ride, and he said, well, just

go look for a castle. I definitely thought he was joking at the time, but then as the years went by, he kept looking and and you know, kind of checking out different props and and we were married a Dare manor, which is in a Dare, Ireland near County in County Limerick, and at one point he was, you know, he was thinking he might buy that, but kill Key came up and that was actually more interesting because it was a

little more raw. It's a little more out in an area where it's closer to Dublin, and but it's at the same time it's far away from everything. So you know, it takes about an hour and fifteen minutes to get there from Dublin and you really are in the middle of the most beautiful Irish countryside is beautiful. Oh my gosh.

But County Kildare horse farm after horse farm after horse farm, and you know, a lot of Ireland is getting developed and so a lot of the other properties that we were looking at were being kind of encroached on by developments and this one wasn't, and so that was definitely appealing, as well as the fact that it's an actual fortress. A lot of you know a lot of people like to say they have a castle, but they don't have a.

to come WBC's Night Side. Some late breaking developments regarding the shooting in Georgia that I want to discuss with you and we will talk about the Patriots have coming season when the ko yang at eleven o'clock right here on WBC.

definitely going away forever. The father, Colin Grade fifty four, who had been interviewed in the past, has been hunting with his son and this was a semi automatic rifle that he used in the shooting, has been charged with four counts of involuntary manslaughter two counts of second degree murder as he allowed his son to possess a weapon. He faces ten to thirty years in prison. And his son went into school and he killed two teachers and

he killed two fellow students. Now there's a history here, right. We have seen this prior where parents have gone to jail because they've ignored the warning signs of their son. And the case prior before this, I believe it was in Michigan, the parents were just absolutely freaking stupid, I mean absolute morons, just morons where the school talked to them. The school said there's a problem here, and they said, no, no problem, no, no, no, no, nothing to see here.

This case is no pun intendent here. But there is a gray area because I know a lot of people that hunt, you know, and they hunt with their kids who are fourteen, fifteen, sixteen years old, and they're all

very responsible gun owners. There seems to be some conflicting reports or they can't really nail down that there had been warning signs from Colchray in the past, that there may have been some sort of threat that was posted on some I don't get this stuff, some sort of video game and they couldn't determine if it was from him or not. And he had denied it, so they

couldn't nail him down on that. But what do you think at six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty should the father of this young man go to jail? Now the parents are divorced, so I don't know if he is living with the father or the mother, but they look upon the father as being responsible for allowing his fourteen year old son to have a weapon that he took to school and he killed four people with.

We are in desperate times with this, desperate times because if you had said to me, you know, ten years ago or something that, well, if a kid, a teenager committed murder, the father would go to jail. Two of the parents, I would say, wait a minute, that's the parent's not responsible for it. I mean, I don't know if there was a problem with the upbringing and so forth,

but the parent didn't commit the crime. But now, because this has become so outrageously common in America, where other countries look at America and they go, you are crazy, and nothing happens with gun and control, nothing ever, changes were totally numb to it. It is mind boggling. So what would you do at six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty. Should the father go to jail? Should Colin Gray, the father of Cochray, should he go to jail for

allowing his son to possess a semi automatic weapon. A semi automatic weapon where it's very easy to repeat the button or the trigger, it's not an automatic. I've had debates with gun with NRA people about this. With the automatic weapons, you just hold the trigger and it fires off sixty rounds. There are semi semi semi automatic weapons like AR fifteens, and I don't know if that was the case here because I have not seen it in

a report. I've just heard that it was a semi automatic weapon or AR fifteens are considered, say, semi automatic weapons, but they're basically a machine gun. There's no there's no reason that somebody can go in and buy a machine gun. Look, I'm all for gun rights. I'm all for hunting, right to bear arms, but I can't understand why anybody needs

selling a machine gun. That's where I kind of say, okay, enough's enough here, you know, And an AR fifteen, as far as I'm concerned, as a machine gun, I'm sorry. I just think it is so do I need to go hunting with something that could fire off sixty rounds a minute, or forty rounds a minute, or thirty rounds a minute, no matter what it is, Do I need to do that?

hold the key. I think that that is common sense because one of the things that I would worry about if I was a gun owner, which I'm not, and I took my kids hunting, is what about their friends. No, that has happened in the past. Kids come over, they want, hey, let me show you my dad's gun. Something happens, boom, tragedy. That's what I would be concerned with. I don't want any of his friends around it. I don't want anybody showing off. I don't want anybody saying, hey, let me

look at dad's gun. I don't want that. That's the problem. So while I can appreciate families that hunt and are responsible gun owners, and there are children, well they're not even children anymore. There are young people, teenagers that are fourteen and fifteen to sixteen years old, that are a responsible gun owner and handle weapons. I understand that they go hunting, they go out with the family, they hunting.

It's fine, but it has to be under lock and key so that a teenager cannot go in and get the gun on his or her own. I think that that's common sense, don't you think people, I mean, that's common sense right there, because I'll tell you right now, this father is going to get convicted.

access to weapons. And now see, you know you gotta if you're gonna go hunting with your father, you're gonna go hunting with your mother. You know, you get adult around, fine, but you cannot allow children that can go to school and take a weapon to school to have access to a weapon or a gun. And that's why this father in Colin Gray is gonna go to jail. He's definitely going to jail. There's no way he gets out of this. I don't see it. I mean, there's the ramifications that

just to dire completely. I don't know how you feel about this. At six, one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty. Coming up at eleven o'clock. Oh, we'll just get a little bit lighter talk, a little football talk, a little little Patriots Nicole Gang right here on WBZ Boston's Radio.

say in the twenty twenty interview. So immediately we'll be breaking it down for you right here on WBC. Fascinating stuff. And what I thought of is there is no way a member of the jury in her next trial is not going to see this, right, I mean, this is gonna be all over the place. It's gonna be We're gonna be obviously playing various segments of the interview here on WBZ and ABC affiliate ABC Radio Afila. It's gonna

be all over the place. It's gonna be on the web, it's gonna be a television, it's gonna be on the radio. It's gonna be on satellite radio. It's gonna be on the old I g hell, it might even make TikTok. It's gonna be everywhere. So if you're gonna be a member of the jury, or you're gonna say that, Oh no, I never saw that, Karen read interview. You're kidding me.

a prediction the other day. I said, I don't know, and I you know, I did sports forever, as you know, and after a while you just get tired of predictions. You're like, I'm done with the whole prediction thing, because it's all a crapshoot. If you make a prediction, whether it's politics, current events, an election, sports, and you back three hundred, which is three out of ten, folks, Just to remind you, if you do that, you're doing well, which means you're wrong seventy percent of the time. When

I did sports radio. That's what I used to tell people. I go, We're wrong at least at least seventy percent of the time. It doesn't matter. Nobody cares at sports. Who cares? All sports fans in this town's care. I'll tell you that right I will tell you that right now. They care. But what I'm interested to see is how passionate the Patriots fans remain. Now. I do think there's gonna be There'll definitely be a drop in attendance. There will be because going to a football game in Foxborough,

which listen, I worked there for a long time. I loved it, going to Jillette Stadium. But when they're not winning, to take the whole day, tailgate, go down, come back, sitting, traffic, it's a lot. When you have Tom Brady as your quarterback and you're winning Super Bowls, people absolutely love it. So I definitely think you're going to see thinning crowds. What about the passion? Will people get angry? That's what I wonder. People used to get angry about the Red Sox.

I'm not sure people will get angry about the Patriots. I don't know if there's a lot of anger left when it comes to sports anymore. I think the younger generation generate though, the Y gen, I think when it comes to sports, I don't think they get pissed off the way we used to. They're ruining nas samma, you know that whole stick. I don't think they do good for them. They're probably a little more mature than the

rest of us. They're two into the gambling thing, which that you know, that's a whole other thing that we never dealt with. I mean, there's so many ways for the newer generations to consume and participate in sports, whether it's gambling, whether it's fantasy, whether it's having some you know, a phone in your hand. As Christy Cashman mentioned, you sit down and watch TV. Does anybody put down their phone?

I do because I want to focus on what I'm doing, you know, I love what I still love watching TV or content or streaming or whatever you want to call it now, but I'll put on my phone. But most people don't. They keep their phone going. They're watching the game, they're checking their fantasy score, they're checking their gambling, they're checking how they doing, how they looking on DraftKings, you know,

how's it going. So that's a whole new way of conser and I think because there are so many distractions which sports now, you don't really have time to get pissed off. I mean, if you were just watching the game, right, if you're just watching the game, by the way, Kansas

City leads Baltimore twenty ten in the third quarter. If you're just watching the game and somebody fumbles on the goal line, or you know, you're the Patriots losing the Super Bowl fifty five to ten to the Chicago Bears or what have you, then you get pissed off, right when you see a bad play, the ball goes through Buckner's legs, somebody gets thrown out a home the Celtics lose to the Lakers in the NBA Championship, the Bruins lose to you know, then you can focus on it.

But now when something goes wrong with your team, you just go, Ah, what's going on on my phone? What's happening in the other games? I could still win their fantasy My team's getting their ass kicked, you know what. Jakobe Brissetts through three picks, the Patriots are down twenty four zip. It's only the second quarterback. I'll watch fantasy I'll go check my fantasy team. That never happened with us. We were too busy throwing our shoe through the TV screen.

I'll go look at Fantasy Plus. Also the NFL. I remember growing up because the Patriots in the sixties weren't very good. So this was giant country, as people know. But friends of mine were Steelers fans. I was a Cowboys fan. For a while. People rooted for the Niners, people rooted for winners in the NFL, and people started to root for the Patriots when they became winners big time. Will that continue or is it just too simple to say, you know what, I'm gonna watch Patrick Mahomes Quite frankly,

that's what I do. Look, the Patriots had a phenomenal run. It's a terrific team, It's a terrific organization. They have tremendous ownership. I love the craft family They've done. You cannot ask for anything more from an owner. What the Crafts have done with the Patriots. You can't ask. Even if the next ten years the Patriots sucked layoff, lay off, you can't ask the Red Sox aren't spending any money. Oh, I mean, you can get mad at them. But with the Pats, no way. But I don't know if anybody

will be angry. See that's just me. But will people be angry if Mayo struggles his first two years? Are people going to be calling for his head? Look, Jacoby Brissett is a placeholder. Jacoby Brissett is right there so the draft pick doesn't get his head knocked in. And I'm concerned for Jacoby Brissette's health because they have no offensive line at all, and they are going he is going to be running for his life. He is going to earn his money. I will tell you that right now.

There's no doubt about that. He's going to be earning as dough. So I think in the NF well, I don't think people are gonna get angry that they don't get angry at the Patriots. They go, I'll watch Kansas City, or I'll watch Baltimore, or I'm gonna see what Rabel's doing with the Chargers, or I'll you know, I'll watch

this team. I watch it now. I don't think anybody I am curious to see what happens with the Jets because I have some friends of mine that are just Jets fans, and they have added they have led a miserable life. They have. Now, if you know Rogers stays healthy, they should be able to do something. You just got to keep that guy up right. Hopefully he doesn't get COVID.

run for their money, and the Giants sucks. So though I am rooting for the Giants coaching staff, I really am bright. I think he's I feel bad. I thought, remember the Giants went out and I think when he his first year they went like six in a row. I thought he was really going to rebuild the Giants and it just hasn't worked out for them. All Right, we're going to talk Patriots. Nicole Gang joins us next from the Boston Globe, right here on wbz's night side