The Trump-Musk Divorce

It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBS Boston's Radio.

All right, well, look, all of us know that breakups are tough. Breakups are tough people who have gone through either a divorce or they have gone through a a friendship, whether it's a you know, a friendship with someone that that involves romance or a friendship that is simply one based on friendship, and all of a sudden you find

Liked Elon and it's a very surprised. You saw the words he had for me, the words and as I said, anything about me that's bad. I'd rather have him criticized me than the bill, because the bill is incredible. It's the biggest cut in the history of our country. We've never cut It's about one point six trillion and cuts. It's the biggest tax cut. Uh tax You would say, uh, people, people's taxes will go way down, but it's the biggest tax cut in history.

It's we have.

We are doing things in that bill that are unbelievable. And when you look at what we're doing for small businesses, for people, for middle income people, all of the things that we're doing, nobody has ever seen.

Anything like it. I think the President likes his big, beautiful bill. I think there's no question about it. He's he's not having any any second second doubts about the bill. But obviously Elon Musk did, and and Musk said, we don't have as much sound of Elon Musk. He calls the bill a disgusting abomination. So it appears that this, this this breakup, this this romance that has ended, revolves around uh A view of the bill. Now, I don't know if Elon Musk has just read the bill recently

And you know Elon's upset because we took the ev mandate and you know, which was a lot of money for electric vehicles and you know, they having a hard time the electric vehicles, and they want us to pay billions of dollars in subsidy. And you know, I Elon knew this from the beginning. He knew it for a long time ago. That's been in there, that's been I would say, JD. That hasn't changed. That's been right for

But I know that it dissurved him. He wanted and rightfully, you know he So that might be one cause it's got even nastier. Yesterday, Elon Musk sent out a tweet that talked about the fact that maybe President Trump somehow is going to get mixed up in the Jeffrey Epstein investigation, and he said that there's some items that have not been released. So this is a this is a bitter breakup, folks.

Uh.

He is a inherently said and sources close to him have said that that beautiful new Tesla that he purchased I think at full price from from from Tesla from Elon Musk back in March is now he's either gonna give it away or sell it now again, A seventy thousand dollars investment for President Trump is not a lot of money, let's be let's be honest. But it's still it's a nice car. But he's disassociating himself not only from Elon Musk, now from the Tesla automobile. So there

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All right, we are going to go to the phones. We're talking initially this hour about the breakup between President Trump and his what what appeared to be his BFF for life, Elon Musk. Let me go to Tom and Brock and see what Tom has to think about this. This uh, this situation. Tom, you were next on Nights First is tonight? Go right ahead, Tom.

Yeah. I understand the perspective of raising the debt settling by five trillion dollars. That's totally irresponsible. And I also understand that there's reconciliation that if it goes back, that's not going to work out the Trump's favor. I understand that, But Elon Russ Musk reminds me of the average voter in many districts in this country that my congressman's great because he brings home the bacon. It's everybody else's congressman

Just an accent that bothered me. By the way ahead, go ahead, Tom.

All right, but yeah, you know what I'm saying that. You know, we had this discussion thirty years ago during Bill Clinton's first administration, and you know, I will give credit. I don't think Bill Clinton was a great present, but I will give him credit for raising taxes back then, which hurt, which actually hurt blue collar guys like me. However, when the Republicans took over in ninety four, there were

You're not only being honest, but you're being accurate as well, which is even more important.

Yes, Now, as far as the bromance, Okay, Elon Musk is coming off like a spoiled brat. You know, I'm not against electric cars, I'm not against stolar energy or wind energy, but it is hugely subsidized. And if it's if it's that great, if it's that great, then why isn't it working where people can just go out and buy solar panels for their roofs along with an inverter. And it's true, you know, without any kind of government, state or federal subsidies, that it's actually going to save

Right, I think, Tom, you know, you've been very clear. You've spoken for two and a half minutes, and you have I think summarized the Trump situation perfectly. So I don't know if you want to add anything else but excluded me.

The Republicans. The Republicans need to pass this budget. They need to pass his agenda, Okay, And hopefully, and this is the crap shoot, Hopefully the economy booms under Trump's tax cuts as well as cuts the businesses and deregulation, and we get more revenue coming into the federal coffers than we've ever had before. But if it's the old you know, Walter Mondale, tax the rich and give to the poor, that's not gonna work anymore. Anyway, take care of da.

I'll talk to you soon, Thank you very much. Let me go to Dave in Wareham down on the Cape. Dave, welcome next to nightside.

Oh, good evening, Dan.

How are you.

I'm doing great. I hope you are as well. What's your taking all of this, Dave?

Go right ahead.

Well, I thought last time I talked to you, it was the time where the train station the goggle thing came down and people were stuck in the middle something they just man, and I was.

Saying, just plow through it, my good and you were.

Saying, hey, all right, David, I can a guy.

All right, Well, welcome back. What's your thought on this? Okay?

My thought on this is I'm gonna just all this at you and go to bed.

Go to bed after midnight, Dave, I want you to yeah, I know, go ahead, all right, Well we have some good exchange here. I want to head you get to the meat of the manor go for it.

Okay, here comes the meat, all right, And and I'm gonna believe this, you know, and sure we got everything going this that you know, Musk, Musk and Trump very very intelligent people, okay. And what is happening really is is something we're missing, Hi, we're forgetting. Everybody's after that car. They're trying to destroy that car, all right. So Musk and Trump must have got together and talked and said, we got to put on a charade.

This is a charade.

Okay, I gotta say that you hate me.

And I hate expect David's a little bit more of a of a charade. Must let me just give me a second, give me a little oxygen here, Okay, uh? When when must that's talking about Trump being involved in some form or fashion with the the the Epstein situation. That's a little more charade in my opinion. But that's okay, I'm not I'm not trying to dispute you. I'm just telling you that that that that's that's pretty nasty stuff. If it's whether it's if it's true or not the way right.

But that's all that's already been out there, so they might they want to use that and anything that he can come up with to protect that car, all right, And that business so he has to step out. He has to step out and let Trump do.

What he's gonna do.

And I think they did this together, and I think.

You know that's that's the point of view.

I think it's does anybody else said that?

Yeah, A couple of people mentioned that last night. We talked. We touched on this briefly last night, and there were a couple of people. There was one fellow who was a solid strong Trump supporter. I'd be interested. Are you a big Trump guy or are you ambivalent on on Trump?

I love them more than like itself.

Well, I think I identified that person who I hope you love more than life itself would be your wife and your kids. But we'll let that go up another day. Trump were to leave tomorrow, you'd still have JD. Van's Okay, just think of.

Even though you're on that subject, and it's ridiculous all you got friends and wife and that families are in big trouble it just because one Likee's Trump, and it's terrible. You probably do too.

Family I think has different. There are some families that are unanimous one way or the other.

But I think really and it goes to hate too.

So hey, you know the Hopefully it never gets to that. Hopefully it can be strong disagreements, but never Hey, hey Dave, thanks very much. You're a good sport. Appreciate your calling. We'll talk again, Okay, thank you.

Thanks to you.

You've got one line at six one seven, two five four ten thirty. I got one line at six one seven nine three ten thirty. What I'm looking for is essentially your belief who's right who's wrong here. I know there are people out there who think this is a charade.

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All right, we're talking about the romance between Donald or the former romance between Donald Trump and Elon Musk. I also want to make sure that you were aware of the fact that there has been an indictment. Now the Maryland man kill. Mar Abrego Garcia is now back in the United States. He's been indicted on human rights smuggling charges, and so he's back here, back on US soil, but not the way in which I'm sure he or his supporters would have wanted it to have to have happened.

A Brego Garcia has landed in the United States to face justice. On May twenty first, a grand jury in the Middle District of Tennessee returned to sealed indictment charging a Brego Garcia with alien smuggling and conspiracy to commit alien smuggling in violation of Title eight USC. Thirteen twenty four. We want to thank President Buchlea for agreeing to return a Breako Garcia to the United States. Our government presented El Salvador with an arrest warrant and they agreed to

Then assumes, indeed, that he is convicted so again you can comment to that or the Trump Musk breakup. Let's get to Tim in Wilburn. Tim, you got a couple of opportunities here, which which both would you like to comment on?

Oh damn, thanks for taking my call.

You're welcome, Tim, go right ahead.

Anyhow, interesting I called a couple of nights ago and I mentioned about Trump and uh, the other guy, and I said, I think, I said, I think the romance is over.

Anyhow, you must have known something, because I agree with you now. I think it's definitely over. I think it's what call. It's an irreconcilable split. I don't think there's any goal back at this point.

And you said, you said tonight a little while ago, the divorce is final. I thought that was funny. Now, when I think right like, who's at fault? I think the parties. I think the both it's the both of them.

That's often the case in real life when when a couple decides to get divorced, generally there's a there's some responsibility to go around. Yeah.

Absolutely, yeah, I say it's the both of them. The parties over for the both of them have had a good time, but you know they're yelling at each other, and I think it's sort of funny.

And uh well, mus has to go back to take care of the Tesler Automobile Company and all of that, and Donald Trump has to take care of the the remaining three and three quarter years or so of his administration. So yeah, they they both are busy guys. They both have a lot to do. That's that's for sure.

Let me say this. Let me say this about Trump, and a lot of people don't like it. He's a businessman, there's.

No question about that. But Musk is as well. By the way, Uh.

Yeah, they both.

He's the richest man in the world, isn't he.

I believe that's what has said. How that's calculated is always interesting to me. But yeah, no, he absolutely is reportedly the richest person in the.

World, if not one of them. But anyhow, I won't keep you on the phone. Uh what the heck? The divorce is final. That's funny.

You have a great weekend.

Okay, good talking and thank you all right, thanks much.

We'll talk talk to Thanks. Thanks appreciate it. Let's keep rolling here. We're going to go next to Glenn in Brighton. Glenn, you were next night side let me pull you up on the screen. Here, you're up. You're up, Glen the Redhead.

Yeah, I agree with Tom about Elon acting like a spoiled brad. I I wish Trump couldsume him for slander. Would be deprivation of his character. I mean, if Trump were a pedophile, which what that implies. The mainstream media, which hates Trump's guest, that would have been a long time ago, well known. Someone would have brought that out, you know the effect.

But if, if, if it is made up out of whole cloth, I don't think that Musk does himself any favor.

Assume, yes, fair and I've lost always, but I used her up until today. I had as much respect for Ewon as I did for Trump, but I don't anymore.

Well, did you have the respect for Elon before he threw his lot in with President Trump? Last suthing?

Yes, okay, fair enough. That's good because he's a free speech person. I mean he wanted to he didn't want conservatives centered on you know, the Internet.

And yeah, okay, no, that's that's fine. I appreciate it. Glenn, have a great weekend, stay stay cool.

Okay, what about eleven o'clock?

Everybody has the hall past at eleven o'clock? You know that, Glenn?

Not all right?

All right, taught to you soon, good night? All right? Let me go next to Tony in New Hampshire. Tony, you were next all nights. I go right ahead. We're talking about the Trump musk breakup or the indictment of the Maryland man who had been sent to El Salvador and who's back in America tonight.

I'm going with the romance breakup. This is just my thought process on it.

And thank you for letting me speak.

Thank thank you for calling in. Everybody can call, everybody could speak on this show, and so thank you. Have you called in before. This is your first time.

Calling, uh, second time calling, but I appreciate that. I thank you so much. I just wanted to tell you quickly that what I believe is, I believe that President Trump and Musk had a pretty great alliance going for quite some time and probably many closed door meetings or you know, outings or whatnot, or little secret meetings about what they're going to do behind the scenes to profit the most off of one another. However, they could work

That's my position. I'm a huge supporter of immigration. But I just like, if you have a party in your backyard or at your home, you want to know who is who's coming and who they are. And even if even if someone brings an uninvited guest, you don't let that person roam around your house. You want to be introduced to them and told, oh, yes, this is my cousin's he's in here for the weekend. He lives in Los Angeles or whatever, and I thought it would be

You know, could I speak to the did I speak to the Epstein thing? I mean, just my thought processes is could not be a part of that. I mean, we're talking about elitists that were being framed by an undercover operation. The operative is Epstein. You know, they're trying to like get so many things on tape and get some underage things going on and whatnot. I mean, who says that there aren't a ton of leaders throughout the world and a time of hierarchy that isn't involved in

At that point you're getting into the issues of criminality and a potential try I just think that no one in their right mind wants to be associated with something like that. And I would think that anybody who had political aspirations at the level that Donald Trump and others had such aspirations, you know, you don't you don't know where the truth is. And obviously, if they said, gave us a list of twenty people who you and I had never heard of, you'd say, oh, that's you. You'd

As that agreed, can I can I say one more thing to click is you know what was with taxes and whatnot? And with a lot of the politicians, they know this too. And Trump did do one great thing that you know, he pulled over Hillary, which is excellent because Hillary took part in all their comrades as well.

Well, that's a legitimate that is an absolutely right, legitimate U provision in the tax code. You know, you upset losses against gains and there is uh right, yeah, and people hire lawyers to make sure it's done properly. All that, there's there's no question about that. And and different uh people, political people could argue, well, that guy or that woman hadn't paid any taxes. Well, the question is not whether they paid any taxes or how much taxes, but did

You gotta shared across many spectrums, many realms, political parties, you know, you name it. You know, so thank you for letting me talk tonight. I appreciate that, and I'll definitely call it and I appreciate listening to you as well.

Yeah, no, we're we're always looking for new callers. We love our traditional regular callers, but we're always looking for new callers, and and please call call more oft an Tony. I appreciate it, Thank you very much.

All right, have a good night, Thank you too.

Okay, I got some lines open, which of course is always troubling. If you like to weigh in, this is the case of the Maryland man. I think is quite interesting because this is a guy who had a US senator come and visit him, had members of Congress come down and visit him, became a real cause celeb, and a judge ordered that he be returned to the United States. He has been returned to the United States. That's what

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Let's keep rolling here. My next caller is Laurie in Providence, Rhode Island. Laurie, you were next on Nightside. Welcome, Hi, Why Laurie.

Welcome?

I've never called before, so.

Welcome.

Yeah.

I listened every single day, especially if it's something that fascinates me how people feel about certain things. But I just had to weigh in on this Donald Trump thing, Elon Musk thing. It amazes me how naive people are. Do we really feel like these guys went from friend to enemy in zero point four seconds like a testler Or No, No, they didn't. They're still friends and they absolutely doing what's best for each of them, his time was up.

He did what he had to do.

That ball's rolling. And now Donald Trump, who was a very caring person in my opinion, he really cares about people he likes and he needs this guy to have people like him again. So what's the best way to get people on the other side like Elon Musky again? And they're all eating it right up? Oh so great, Now let's go buy a Tesla again. You know, like, oh yeah, you're not the only.

Laurie, You're not the only person who has expressed that viewpoint in the last couple of nights in the show. But I got to be honest with you. I gotta be honest with you. I'm on the other side of this argument. I think that with Donald Trump, a lot of his so quote unquote, amusing air quotes now friendships was called transactional, meaning he went through a lot of people in the first administration.

Yeah, absolutely, I heard the yeah.

And I think he will go through others. And I think that they got to a point here where maybe maybe Musk who was saying that he was going to find a trillion dollars worth of wasted government. So far, they've only identified about one hundred not that it's only but one hundred and seventy five billion. Maybe that's a

I mean, that's that's amazing because that allegation, that allegation is old. I mean, that's not even gonna that's not.

Gonna carry any weight because we all know there were pictures with we know, we know there are pictures of Milania and Donald with him down coming through Mono.

Lago or whatever.

Plus they're all gonna Pruss pass for you know.

Well, I think the implication was more than I think I think the implication. I just think the implication was more than oh, they they met at a couple of fundraisers. That's my thought. I don't know, look at his Laurie, let's see what happens. I could be totally wrong on this. I just look at this as another transactual relationship that Donald Trump has gotten out of it. Everything that he feels he could and maybe must at this point has become a liability. We'll see what happens. Let's see where

Talking and thank you.

Thank you.

I have a good night, you too, have a great weekend. Stay cool, all right, we're done. For those of you who are now on the line, You're just a little too late because we have a guest coming up and we will be changing topics right after the ten o'clock news. So I just wish, folks, you would realize that when you call, we tend to do this program in our blocks. Sometimes we do go over. But when I have a guest coming up at ten o'clock, I've walked into the