Governor Healey’s Plan for MA Energy Bills - Part 2

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I'm going you razy Boston's News Radio. One of the things that I would like to suggest to people is this if if you feel your energy supply charges are too high, here's the website here in Massachusetts where you can compare what you're paying. All you have to do is go to your energy bill. Okay, whether it's again, whatever the company is, whether it's National Grid and or ever Source or unitool, you go to this website. I'll be going to the website tomorrow, so therefore I want

Are you ready, yeady?

Well, Chris, I've just introduced You're welcome to Nightside. What's your point you're on here? Go ahead? Hello you there, Rob, Yes, yeah, I'm here. Chris. Put him on hold and I'll come back to him. Let me go to Deborah in Marlborough. Deborah, you are next on Nightside. Go right ahead.

Hi again. I'm so glad that you're talking about this, and I know everybody else is in the same situation as me. But I got a monthly electric bill actually for a thousand dollars, and you know what, I live in a little mobile home. Can you imagine the highest I've ever paid for my electricity during the wintertime was around five five fifty And I got a bill for one thousand dollars in the second the last month, the same thing. And I just hope that something can be done.

Well she wants to run for president?

Oh, I know she does.

I know.

Can you see that?

Really anything is possible in America exactly.

And then the other thing I'm thinking is it's going to be at the point where I mean, I live by myself here in a small mobile home. That's what I get for my electric bill. And I'm thinking to myself, I'm going to actually I'll probably wind up being homeless. And if that happens, I'm sitting outside her her her mansion and with a sign. Really okay, I cannot even believe it.

Let me encourage you to do this. While you were on hold, I gave this play this website. Are you going to you? O?

Yes, I got it, And I'm definitely gonna do that.

Great, okay, Because what you can do is, and there are some of these rates. What you should do is look on your bill and where Bill says, let me. Let me direct you to where you where you want to look. Where you look on your bill? Who's who's your electrical suppliers? That ever source?

National Grid? Oh no, it's National Grid.

Well, at some point there you should see that there's a generation service charge okay, which is your in effect, your supplier charge. And I tell you how many killowat hours you used for that, you know, the last month, okay, okay, and it'll say however many killer what hours? Then it will say kW H for killowat hours times, and then it'll tell you what you're paying per killowat hour. Okay, my generation service charge for my electric bill. It's not

You probably I have to bill but I don't.

Yeah, well you could find it. It will simply say you're you're how many killow hours you use? Uh? And you can find that because they have to give you your monthly killer what use and others hopefully are listening to me as well. So you you look at the number of KILLO one hours. Then you find where it says generation service charge, and that will tell you what

Okay, Oh all right, thank you so much.

You stay right there. Rob will give you my direct line. Uh. And if you're running into problems either way, I want you to call me and let me know how you how you make out, Okay, thanks Debbie up. Rob will take care of you. Here we come back, we're gonna be talking with Chris and Cape cod he's gonna be second this hour. The only line that is open right now is six one seven. Look, we can use this program to help each other. That's what we're doing tonight.

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Back to the phones. Let's give it Chris another shot. Here, another bite at the apple. Chrissy, you're there, Yes, I am hi. I have no idea what happening before? What were you away from the phone per chance for now?

No? No, I have a home problem that it's sort of irrelevant, but I did get back to it and here I am God. I can't thank you enough for this public service. I'm like you. I have a bunch of electric bills from different properties that I have and for the first time earlier this week. I actually scrutinized because I was kind of shocking odd by the amount, and I started looking at the items that are surcharged of.

Well, here's what can I just jump in for a second. And by the way, I apologize for interrupting, but thank you for the kind comments. I do this because I believe in it. Okay, I'm in a position where I have a radio station that supports me. I have a microphone and people can listen or they can choose not to listen. But I want them to listen. And if I can help people tonight, let me give you an example.

Right. Well, that happened. I happened for the first time this week scrutinized one of those and I said, this is hieroglyphics. Uh, and it's a sham. And I think in furtherance of the public service that you do for us, you should have the one or all of the commissioners be examined and cross examined by you as to each in one of these each and every one of these items to be substantiated. I also looking into this for the first time ever, because I just routinely, you know,

You're so right, and they're getting screwed, is what they're getting. That's what that's what's going on. But you're right, And the problem is that you have older people whose visions has failed is failed a little bit. You have people who are busy, They're just trying to live their life. You know, I just think about gas station. We complain about gas, but you drive into a gas station there for five minutes, you pay ten dollars or twenty dollars,

And when you think about it, which I did. That happened to be coincidentally with my review of this first time ever. Maybe I was thinking who appoints these commissioners? And I saw it either an article in the Globe or the Herald that said the governor appoints. Well, that's not according to my information. It is the secretary of the Executive Office of the Energy and Environmental Affairs affairs

You're right, You're right. The department is overseen by the three member Commonwealth Utilities Commission, appointed by the Secretary of the Executive Office of Energy and Environmental Affairs, with approval by the Governor. Right the secret the Secretary designates one of the commissioners as chair. Below you can learn about our commission. So the chair is a guy named James Jamie van Nostrend Okay. He was an adjunct professor at

Hey, listen, you know, as far as these bills go, when they generate electricity at Apollo Plant, it's tied in on this parallel grid, so they're talking about delivery and transmission. It's the same thing. And i'd like to know, uh, well, you already you just said it. I mean, these people have absolutely no qualification in electrical engineering or an electrician anything like that. Any electrical engineer electrician knows uh that these these are just trumped up charges and the duplicity.

Well, for the for the most part. The three who were on and I'm a lawyer, okay, but I don't understand the stuff. One guy has his jd from the University of Iowa Law School. Uh Uh, he also worked at the West Virginia University School of Law. The second one has the j D. She's a lawyer from Rutgers University School of Law in Camden, New Jersey. Uh. And the third one has a law degree from Northeastern University School of Law. Okay, can of them have any expertise

Right.

They have no background in electrical or an electricity period, and they're the ones that are making the I'm sure they're, you know, very smart people and proficient in their field, but why are they making the decisions on about electricity when they have no background in electricity?

Well, Paul, Paul, you and I are smart people. Okay, but let's assume Bob Kraft called you and said, hey, Paul, I want you to be the coach of the Patriots and Dan is going to be your defensive coordinator. How do you think we do, Paul?

Oh, I don't know. I don't hope we'd make it to the Super Bowl.

I don't think so. No, But I'm not joking when I say that, the fact of the matter is that these are political point is this this group of three when the governor said, you know, we want the editor companies to give something back, they they ordered them to give back five percent five percent, and the energy company said, we'll give back ten percent. So these knuckleheads, as as the Great Tom Andino would say, these knuckleheads, they should have said you got to give back twenty percent. But no,

Why I did to hire you know, and uh, well, let's say.

The government that's in competence, that that is absolute incompetence. You're the commissioners, you're asking for five percent and the people that you're regulating saying no, we'll do you better. We'll give you ten percent. Governor Healy should should ask for the letters of resignations of those three people tomorrow.

She won't, I agree, she won't. Get some engineers and electricians on that.

That's what they need.

I'm with you this, this is this is a scandal. Okay. It is a scandal, and the governor needs to step up to it. This is the sort of thing that if she wants to run for president, this is gonna come back. This is like what Boston Harbor was to Mike Dukakis. This is the sort of thing that the Republicans would do if if she ever became the Democratic nominee. And I'm not betting a lot of money on that. All Right, I gotta run, Paul, Thank you so much. Appreciate your calling.

Okay again, but thanks you very much.

Good night.

Don't talk to you soon, good night, okay. Six one seven, two, five four ten thirty six one seven nine three one ten thirty. By the way, I have a big announcement to make later on tonight, so I'm not gonna make it on the air. I'll make it on the air tomorrow, but I do a show on I shouldn't say a show. We do what's called night side postgame on Facebook. If you're listening tonight and you're near a computer at midnight, go to your Facebook page and find Nights with Dan Ray.

And costs in other ways. All Right, every single day, I want you to know that this team, this administration and I as Governor am laser focused on lowering costs for people around Massachusetts.

And one of the biggest budgetbusters.

That we've seen lately is what people saw on gas bills, electric bills, heating bills the last couple of months.

Laser focused. You weren't laser focused, Governor in October when your DPU commissioners were granting increases. You know, maybe laser focused now because you know people are upset. Where was you? Where was your team? Governor? Didn't they know that these things? I mean, the average person doesn't attend DPU meetings, Governor, These would be the questions that I would ask the governor, But I don't think the governor has any interest in coming on the show on this topic. And again, all

We estimate that these steps, taken together, will save Massachusetts residents five point eight billion dollars over the next five years, almost.

Six billion dollars.

We're going to save money back.

To you over the next five years.

Now, the people who are clapping there, for the most part, were members of the governor's staff, state employees. I mean, do you believe that. I'll believe it when I see it. To be honest with you, you're not going to save it with this group of DPU commissioners. Let's go to the phones. We're going to go to Miller in Lawrence, Lawrence Miller, Let's do me a favorite Rob, put them on hold, and we'll never called the radio station before. Okay, that's

Good evening.

Then, my brother, Joe, how are you. This is not a happy topic we're talking about tonight.

No, it's not hard imaginally looking at some of the notes. I don't know if you remember about twenty seventeen eighteen, Kelly Baker had a guy on one of those environmental boards that he was caught on a hot mic saying that he was going, we just got to try to make a hurt for the people, to make them aware that they have to save energy there was up in New Hampshire and the guy had to pull it back and he ended up getting fired after that. Yeah, that

Maybe at McDonald's.

Not even that's insulting then, I mean what they are doing is I mean, and I feel so so bareful people on fixed income? Yeah, I mean then by bill from six plus with two one thousand dollars, I mean, come on, I mean, thank god, I'm able to you know, with my family, I'm able to handle that. But it's just ridiculous and how somebody in a fixed income can't handle that. And the DPU who appointing these people, one of them was by Charlie Baker, you know, the two.

It's like borrowing money. It's like borrowing. It's like borrowing money from from a bookie. You gotta pay it back and you gotta pay a little interest. It's the same thing.

To eliminate. They have to eliminate all those lobbyists because that's what they do with That's the same thing that they do with the insurance. My insurances been going up to the room and guess what, I have an excellent driving record and nothing has changed, nothing has changed whatsoever. However, they raise the insurance off. Why what's the reason for. It's just insane. They need a dolge over here, a

You totally, Joe, Joe, Well said, my friend Well said, Uh, it's up. It's up to the people now to sort of start to stand up and say, hey, we've taken enough here and we can't take it anymore. This is this is this is stuff, tough stuff.

Joe, all right, thank you, man. I appreciate you, my brother. You have a lovely evening. I love you and your family.

Love love your family and you as well. Thank you, Joe, appreciate it. Thank you very much. Look, hey, let me get going here. I'm gonna go back and see if we get Miller and Lawrence here. Let's give Miller and Lawrence a second shot. Miller, you got a second life here, go ahead. Miller.

All right, Buddy, Danny, sorry about that. Dan. So I'll never say up to watch the miners thing, but I did because heally was on last week on television.

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Yeah, yes, I had a thirteen minute spot. Spent eleven minutes talking about her a professional basketball career of two years in Austria.

Very important, very very important. To watch out the language. Heah, we got to bleep that. Remember we're on Family Radio.

Go ahead, all right, dad? Uh damn. So in closing, she says people should no, New England was a great state.

No, I think it's called the region. But wow, I didn't realize that. Now if Donald if Donald Trump had said that, if Donald Trump, do you think that the networks would have been all over him or yeah?

Who it was? It was a nice representation of the state at all.

Well, we are the aristocracy of the elect right, they're in Massachusetts. All right, Mella, have you called before? I know? Is this your first time I had?

I had?

Yeah, I have to have type of time.

All right. Well I was a little I thought you're okay, what I got you. I didn't think you'd hear me. That's why we put you on old Thanks for thanks for sticking with us call talk again. Thank you very much, good night. Again, we're trying to help people tonight cut their utility bills legally. We'll explain one more time on the other side. And again, as they say, I do

Ahead, thank you. Dan. Yeah. I pay my daughter's electric bill, and I've been paying it for like eight years. You know, it's always like one hundred maybe one hundred and fifty in the summer. In November, National Grid was having difficulty with their billing department, and I tried to pay her bill and they kept saying, we're having difficulties, so we can you know, can't do it now. All through December,

And separate bills, yeah, separate.

Yeah.

For how many months.

It went way back to like May. I don't know, you know that.

Joe Inn, that's an issue that involves your daughter and you, and you know that doesn't have application. And what we're really talking about tonight. We're talking about tonight the level of money that people are asking be paid in Massachusetts, and I think lack of oversight by the government in the final Sleep at the Switch.

Yeah, the final bill said nineteen hundred dollars.

Well, I guess if it was nine bills. You divide it and it's like two hundred dollars a month. I don't know, Joe inn I.

Well, no one bill said zero, you know, but I called them and they said, well that's what it is. You know.

It's just not very helpful, that's for sure. No, Joe inn I'm trying to get you know, the news between macro and micro yours is a micro problem. It needs a microscope to figure it out, and it probably is not doesn't have great application to most of my audience. We're talking about the mike, the macro problem that the DPU commissioners here in Massachusetts, we're asleep at the switch. The governor needs to ask for their resignation.

In my opinion, Well, you know, they want the climate change thing, she said. I heard her say there was eighty dollars per bill going towards climate stuff.

At least at least thanks Joanne, I got to run. I got a bunch. Okay, you got to get to Thank you much. Talk to you soon. Fill in Boston, Phil, next on Nice, I go ahead, Phil, Hi, don't.

I gotta be quick?

Well?

You hit all you should be a p and you're hitting all all the right keys. I just I got my National Group bill sitting outside here, walk right by it. I'm afraid to open her now. The bottom line is you hit on all the right keys. And you said people have other things loriable they can't figure out.

I don't know what to kill?

What is that make a sound like they do in you? A favor? Good to kill? What I had? A guy combined now on the door and said, well he wanted me. I signed a car like an idiot. I signed a contract to get the well the fransaity where I signed that? Well, what did I just done? There'll be the finest kid. He was in and around, and then I try to call the number for the company. I was here for

No, no, no, no, no. First first and first of all, I hear your frustration. Your frustration is justified. And I don't care who you vote for, but when we elect someone to the state House, they need to put a team in place. I don't expect Mare Healy to be sitting at very DPU hearing and she has to have a Secretary of Energy who follows some That was a big meeting and they gave they gave a big fat with kiss the DPU condisioners. They're the problem, and the.

Government money the lottery and they're gonna make him going to fire off for a ticket next week. You can't make the stuff up. How abatters some money?

Well, maybe I shouldn't regulize. I think what happens is you legalize betting everywhere and everybody can bet on everything, all.

Becoming addicts between them. Anyway, sorry about that guy.

Guys Phil, you have a great one. Good night, you deserve it. Thanks. Say say if you can bet like on Laftyan soccer Max matchups, maybe that does detract a little bit from the very successful Massachusetts lottery. Jeff is in Whitman. Jeff, you were next on Nightside. Welcome, Hey Dan.

I mean I've done the audit of like all my different services, and a lot of them. I've got rid of AT and T. I'm almost ready to get rid of Comcast or Internet and looking for better services. So for my electric bill, I signed up with Arbor and they'll negotiate short term contracts for you on who has the least uh the lowest rate. So and that's worked out for me and I don't have to sit there for hours going okay, is a clear sky is at? This company is a fat company?

So I say, just so I understand it. There's a company that you use that negotiates your rates. What is that company?

It's called Arbor, like a grape arbor?

Yep.

Yeah.

And did they automatically set it up for you each time?

So they they charge? Do they charge you for that service or do.

They get a piece of the auction They somewhere get a piece of the action.

Okay, So is Arbor energy dot com?

I'm not sure the exact weber dress, but yeah, that's them.

Okay, well, yeah.

I'll find them and I'll report to the audience tomorrow night.

Sounds good, sir, appreciate Jeff.

Thank you much, a great How much time we got, Roub. What do we got? Okay, Jim, gonna stick you in here real quickly at the end. Got about a minute for you.

Go ahead, Jim, I don't need him in I got ten seconds. All right. This is a very simple idea. Two words. Headband flash light. I mean, typically I would only recommend it for people who are desperate, but it sounds like you're desperate, So headband flashlight. And the other thing is if you're living in an apartment, make sure that the apartment building isn't running something off of your electric I live in an apartment one time there running the laundry room off of my electric thing. So those

Great night, Jim. Okay, thanks all right. Jim always comes up with likes to sneak in late and come up with something that says that's interesting. Okay. So I want to thank everyone to call it tonight through a bunch of first time callers, which I appreciate a whole lot. I want to thank We had a great conversation with David Urban, CNN contributor. He happens to be a Trump supporter. He's sort of the one of the two House Conservatives