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There was a beat down in the bay and it wasn't and it wasn't rendered by the forty nine. It was the Ravens that that brought their show on the road. The first team with five picks in the game the season. Their defense overwhelmed the front runner. At the start of the game, MVP brought party picked them off what looked like a very promising drive to start the opening possession, Oho Kyle Hamilton made a great play on the ball he intercepted it and they really never looked back from

Listen? Obviously when I had picked thinking about it, I had picked the Ravens to win the game. But then I thought about, how could the Ravens win this game with a high powered offense, the Juggernaar offense that is a forty nine ers, And the first thing I thought about. And when it comes to NFL games, it's all about matchups. It's all about match ups and schemes, and how well do the Ravens defense matchup against the forty nine Ers offense.

Of the forty nine ers is very high powered.

Yes, they had three interceptions, forty nine went down to score, and all of a sudden it was a one point game. Yeah, you you hadn't capitalized, is it all?

So that kind of scared me a little bit about it. Now I had.

Tweeted, I had tweeted it.

I said, listen, you're raying.

If you're gonna get these turnovers, you're gonna have to You're gonna have to score points, not no goddamn field goals. Let's make it a barn burner and you know, run away with the game. So defensively, you can force the forty nine ers to make mistakes and get outside of the game plan on what they really like to do and listen, they ended up winning. Lamar Now Lamar is twenty one and one versus n f C, NFC teams in his career.

Yeah, best in staff, thinks, best in Stabler. Just the merger.

Yeah, he was twenty three for thirty thirty five for two fifty two two tds say Flowers, say Flowers, nice man.

Yeah, but the boy you mentioned, you mentioned the twenty two to thirty five and zero touchdown.

Yeah, but it was a clean game, clean no picks.

Notice no picks. They was now for seventy two and the td The Ravens have won nine of the last ten games, landon nine of the last ten games, plus they had Saxon party. Listen the remaining schedule for the Ravens. Obviously, they had a gauntlet of games to play. The last four.

The Ravens because the Dolphins won that number one seed.

Also, hey, they want anything to come through to come through, come through Miami.

Yep, yep, you're right, You're absolutely right. The Ravens take get five, they get five turnovers, four sacks, two on party, two on Sam Darneld. But I thought the face, oh shoe when you look at and for like the last five weeks, I think everybody had come to the conclusion the two best teams in the NFL were the Baltimore Ravens in the San Francisco forty nine Right, Okay, I said, I say, we're gonna find out who what you got

Turnovers? Turnovers?

You look at look at what the forty nine ers, the forty nine ers had been beaten people. The Ravens did to them what they had been doing the other team. When you turned the ball over that many times, O Jo, it's hard.

For you to win.

I don't care how great your offense is, and I don't care how great your defense is. The likelihood of you keeping them the kick field goals, that's great, But the likelihood when you got a guy that's won the MVP. He's in the MVP discussion right now, and now he's probably in the lead. Considering the guy that I mean and and and perty was a substantial was in substantial lead in front of Lamar. But considering how bad he looked and how good Lamar looked, it's hard for me

You see.

The thing is O Joe.

When I watched the forty nine ers and I watched him very closely, they're a team that like to jump off the ball and go get the quarterback. Oh yeah, but if you see how they rush. They rushed right down to man. They didn't want to give him lane that he can take off running. Well, you make the offensive line job very easy if you don't get on edges. So now all they just do is anchor let you

And this is what I liked about Lamar to night though, This is what I like about Lamar because coming out they say, oh, he's a running back. He's a running back, But now his game is a vaulved to the point where now I'm gonna drop back past her and I'm not running the ball unless I have to, unless I have no goddamn Helen choice, hell high water. I got to take off a runner and he acting like who deed he with? Not only is he escape in the pocket.

They rendered?

They rented the office the defensive line you because Bolsa likes to bend the edge. Everybody wants to bend the edge and edge right, O Joe, if I run up field, what you think lebar A gonna do? He gonna step up in one of the step up And so now it's like it's like, oh, Joe's gonna be one of those games, O Joe, We're not gonna you know, that pass rush, so everything's gonna be quick or we're gonna try to run the ball. And then everybody look up

And see that's the thing.

At the end of the day, you got and I understand what Steve Wilks, the defensive coordinator, was trying to do. He's like, guys, we don't want to give him an edge. We don't want to give him lane. We don't give it. We just want you know. But at some point in time used to look, guys, we tried it this way and we can't get him on the time.

We got to change it up. Out Yoe right right right.

I mean they say, hey, oh Joe, you got to go to the coach.

Coach the dude sitting outside, I can't run the out. He's playing outside lebrt right right right.

He cut give me a dig, give me, give me something that I'm breaking away because he's playing outside celebrity because he don't want me to run by him, and he don't want me to run this speed out.

Well, at some point in time, you.

Got to say, hey, go get the quarterback and if he and if he gets the lane, he gets a.

Laye that's there on me. If he does do if he's on me, he does.

Yeah, Because how many times did he buy time? Finds a flower by time? Fine Bateman by time find likely likely? So so so what do we what are we doing at this point? And give him credit? I mean, you see the side on throws. He was making plays and he didn't put the ball in Harm's weight. The forty nine Ers put the ball in Harm's way, and the game got away from him. Like we've seen the Eagles put the ball in harms way. Forty nine Ers ran away from him. The Cowboys didn't have that many turnovers,

Team in the NFL.

Considering they've just beat what many thought was the best in the NFL and they went on the road to do it.

Yep, that's fact. They winning Levi Stateium to do it. I think they are the best team in the NFL. But what I think it is is about hein your stride at the right time.

I also would.

I wouldn't out I wouldn't count out the god damn Rams, who are playing really good football at the right time their kids. They're catching their stride at the right time the forty nine ers. The forty nine ers won't be playing a defense like like that of the forty nine ers. I think they like the Ravens like I'm sorry, like the Ravens. I think other teams that they will that they will match up with they can dominate based on personnel, based on what they do. From a schematic standpoint, they

If you look at the first interception, it's quarters coverage. There's nothing to hold the front.

Side and safety, nothing at all. Nothing.

Why would Why would I understand he's looked, okay, d boscross the backside safety faith, but what's holding the front side safety?

Nothing?

They had nothing there, They had nothing in there.

Yeah, and so I'm looking, I'm like, bro, what are you seeing you when you First of all, we get a game plan, oh Joe, we come in a situation. Okay, on at this area of the field, this down and distance, this area of the field, this is the coverage they like to play, right, Okay, this is against this formation, against this formation, they'd like to play discoverage. So you have a general idea kind of the coverage that they're gonna.

Play based on down the distance. Yeah, down the.

Distance in area of the bro you dropped back, it's quarters the safety basically.

Go drop straight back.

I get it. You're trying to hold the backside. You flare one side and you run up. I think it's George Kittle. You ruin him like a square out. Now, the only way you can hold him is that if you have him push up higher.

But if you notice the.

Corner sunk on the back side, so there's really nothing not a safety doesn't have to do anything.

He just see it. And and Kyle Hamilton like thank you.

And then the other two interceptions, Bro Stevens come they run double slot blitz. Stevens come from one side, Marlon Humphrey comes from the other.

He gets his hands up. He passed the ball up in there.

Party tries to locate it well by this time Marlon Humphreys then jumping over. And then the other one, Kyle Hamilton's on the ground. He gets up off the ground off of Camon. You see how hustle. You see what hustle. You see what hustle does.

And then and being with being in the right place at the right time, being in the right place at the right time.

But did you watch those forty nine ers receivers? Did you see them going George Kill catch that ball? Did you see how you Yeah? Did you see do you see d Bo Do you see those guys, those guys We're gonna talk about this later.

But did you see the kiss on Davonte Smith runs?

Yeah? You see how did you see how he hit him? On the dB on the ten and pakked him in the end. Hey, but in this game, kudos to the Baltimore Ravens. You're right now the best team in football regardless of conference. Lamar Jackson is the MVP front runner. I believe That's what I was gonna ask you. I mean, basically, basically, you can actually give it to him.

We got two games left in the season, and obviously you know, MVP is based on what you've done throughout the regular season regularly. They got the Dolphins and the Steelers next. I think the showing against the Dolphins at home at M and T Bank Center whatever it's called where they play, I think.

I think he's gonna have a good game.

So if based on his showing these next two games, when you say Lamar Jackson would be the NFL's MVP regarding to know what the sics.

But you know what did hold on? So you're telling me if he has a game like Rock Party, he's still the MVP.

I mean, he's not gonna have it. He's not.

Did you think you listen that Offensively? Offensively, the Ravens aren't a volume passing team like the forty nine Ers are. The forty nine ers are the chances of having a game like that, it's slim to none.

You know, Brock Party throw the twenty six most passes in the NFL, even though he was second in passing yards. The volume team, they are a running team and the past think about the passes that they throw.

Oh Joe their swing pass que quick quick, quick, Okay, okay, okay, okay. I see you're going with it. I see you're going with it.

But you got two games to go.

A lot of things can happen in two games, right But right now, as they're getting there showering and feeling good about themselves and rightfully so, Lamar Jackson is your MVP right now? Okay, okay, he's MVP, Like right now, I got Christian McCaffrey.

It's second, it's second. I'm gonna go out on I'm gonna go out on a limb. I'm gonna go out on the limb. And knowing would it only be in two games left, the momentum, the confidence, the morale that the team has right now, I have a good feeling that that momentum is gonna continue into next week, and obviously it's gonna continue on to the Steelers and he probably will be the MVP for the second time.

It's just something about here's the thing. You know, the Ravens and the Steelers don't like each other. Oh yeah, the Vision rival.

Yeah, I know about that. I know about that.

Yeah, now that you look, you know how the Vision rival games go. But there's nothing. I mean, this is like Michigan, Ohio State. This is North Carolina. This is North Carolina, duke right, right, they just they just this the imccoy. They despise each other.

Yeah, literally, literally they do.

And if you think the state, because the Steelers are gonna probably need to win that game to make the playoffs, right, so you ship.

Right, that's right, that's right, that's right, that's right.

Yes, that's because the Ravens Clinton clint the division, so now they need this to make the playoffs.

So it's gonna make the implications of that game even that much more serious. But it still is. Yeah.

Yeah, and if I get a chance to it, let's see him. Not only can I clinch the division, I can make sure somebody else have home Fielder's tell of you, hey, I get two birds fore I get one. But it's gonna be great congratulations to the Baltimore Ravens. Go on the road three time zones. That's a long way to travel, O Joe.

Yeah, hey, listen, it's gonna be a beautiful flight home. I know that ain't nothing gonna be a beautiful flight home. So if you lost, if if you had lost, you gotta take that five off a flight from.

The West to the east, it ain't gonna be ain't gonna be pretty.

And then getting home, I mean it's already midnight on the East. They haven't even left the stadium yet.

Nah, not at all. They ain't gonna They ain't gonna They ain't gonna take off until maybe lem me see a team fifty three players stabbed, got an unload all the equipment.

They probably ain't gonna take off till about one o'clock.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, about one one, one, one fifteen. Oh choke, Yeah about that East coast time, it'll be ten, it'll be ten ten thirty Western time. But we took because they traveling east, So that's a five, that's a They ain't gonna get home till about six thirty seven am, easily easily, because that's what happened.

When we got back. We uh.

We played Miami on a Monday night and we and we had to come back to Denver. Oh, Joe, I was like, and Mike's like, okay, you know you got off and I know them to come in Hell.

I just started.

I worked out, I got my stuff, I changed out about my clothes. I got me a work out, said I see y'all on Wednesday, right right, right, right, hey, already five thirty six o'clock.

I'm just gonna get my workout.

Get it, get it and get it out of the way, get.

It and be done with it. Congratulations Ravens. A gut check.

Let the forty nine ers know, a bro, there's some things we need to work on, because at the end

So congratulations Ravens.

They're the AFCED North champs and currently still the number one seed and Lamar Jackson NFL front runner for the MVP. O Joe, We've already got forty thousand in the chat. What they're coming, Yes, forty thousand.

Hey, forty thousand people. I love y'all, I appreciate you.

I love you.

Make sure you subscribe. Yes, grab h thirty nine hundred and sixteen of them are Baltimore Ravens fans. Zacky Zaki says much love and respect book both Unk and Ojoe. Lamar Jackson is the MVP of the league. The numbers don't tell the whole story. Several times tonight he showed himself to be the Zach Nobody we said this. No quarterback is asked to carry a load like Lamar Jackson. He's for the most part, we already know he's the quarterback, so we know he's their passing game. But he's also

Yeah, they they had twenty six.

Carries for basically one hundred and two yards, and a lot of that was a scrabb But you remember he had that long thirty yard run, right, he ended up

And the funny thing what I really liked what they've done for Lamar, and they can even they can even improve it more as the supporting cast that they put around them to take the owners and the load off of his shoulders on not having the run, which is why I like the fact that he's now becoming what I like to consider more of a complete passion. Because you have receivers that can get open, actually get open

And we're going to talk about this a little lady with the other team that we talked about, and what I tell you, Ojo, Yeah, them are chiefs.

Oh listen, did you see all sides today? I'm just asking you did you see all offenses today? One more question?

Did you see a.

Drop ball today? Yes? Yes? Oh yeah, okay, okay, yeah, okay yeah. But the you know, the NFL.

You see what's happened Ojo that all the teams started sending the off side plays in o Jo. They've called most more off sides on offensive wide receivers this year. Then I can recall I don't remember that many calls in my fourteen year playing career here.

Do you remember it? No, honestly, you know, and the fact that it was brought to our attention when the Chiefs had Canarius lining up both sides, not everybody. They opened the floodgates call every single time. And you know, you know, it's funny. You know what I like to do, and I can say it not because I'm not playing no more. I like to cheat the ball a little bit. Of course, I like to cheat the ball a little bit, just just a tab bit, because I think it's not

A little maybe maybe my face master is over the ball. Yeah, I'm not gonna block you. I'm not gonna block if you you just can't block. If view face mask, he still can look down the line and see the ball see it?

Yeah?

Yeah, yes, and uh held up red hood.

You disappointed me thinking brock Perty is as good as Lamar Jackson and thinking he's elite in pre.

I don't.

I don't like what you know before you even answer that, before you even answer to him. I hate the comparison to quarterbacks. I hate the comparison quarterbacks for the simple fact everything is stat based for one rightfully so as you always tell me, because numbers don't lie. But the skill sets, they don't tell the whole story, the whole story. But the skill sets between Rock Perry Lamar Jackson are completely different.

Oh, completely different.

Oh Joe.

Remember when they was having this early on when he beat the Cowboys. I was one of the only analysts that said Rock Party is an elite see your head.

They was on your head as head.

Yes, but here's the thing. They got a next see see. They don't want to listen to what I have to say. They just want to take snippets of he said this over here, he said that over there.

I never said Rock Party was elite.

As a matter of fact, I was one of the few that said he was an elite. Second of all, just because someone is playing good, that doesn't make them better. You can have a better year than a quarterback and not be a better player.

But it's so hard to understand about that.

Oh Joe, there are a lot of people that want MVP doing Michael Jordan tenure. Does that mean they were better players or they had a better year. That's okay. Same thing with Lebron, same thing with Kobe. Y'all got to stop this. See y'all trying to paint this picture now.

It at the quarterback position.

At the quarterback position, I believe he can do that in the NFL when he was going for the MVP. I remember his first with his first playoff game against the US the Chargers. They were still in San Diego then, and they lost and he didn't play well. I said, the guy's a rookie and that he's not right now able to throw the ball well enough in order to win. And what did he do? He came back and from start to finish he was the MVP thirty six and six,

See something that's going on.

I told y'all from day one the Cowboys concerning because the red zone offense and what happened when the defense don't get picked sixes. Oh now, all of a sudden, man, an't we's right, But that's not what you're said, at the time, you said I was a hater, But I told you from day one about the Chiefs offense, the skill position, and the offensive line.

Oh shut up.

And what did I say? Oh you remember man if vaddelv Scander had to hold that ball? I said, Oh, Joe, you gotta be careful because to see if you base somebody's offense on one plate, look at it, at its totality. Look how many times they dropped the ball. Look how many times Patrick Mahomes had to run for his life just to find somebody that would open or take off running. Man, y'all stop this. I ain't got no agenda again against Lamar. Yes, I played for the Ravens. This is how it works.

Just like I.

Critique the Broncos play twelve years from them, I'm not gonna stop. Guys. I don't care what y'all say. How many times y'all said I hate Lamar. I got an agenda. I do have an agenda to be the best at what I do and none of y'all, nobody that's in this chat no more football and can break it down and analyze the game like I can. So y'all use y'all criteria to how y'all crewture, critique and grave players, and I'm gonna use my take off Joe.

Well, it's hard to follow up behind a sermon like that, it's hard to fallow up behind a sermon like that. But listen, I understand where people are coming from. I see I'm on both sides of both sides of the coin.

Obviously.

I think people think more emotion as if they think more with emotions, yeah, feeling, you know, emotions and being a fan of obviously the team and the player.

So they want it to be one way.

They want your views to be aligned with theirs, and when they don't align with theirs, then there's a problem. Oh you don't like this person or you're hating on this person. But again, you have a job to do. The criterion which you judge and critique people is much different than those who are actually fans of the player and fans of the team.

If people have to understand.

That, Yes, Marcus hosted calm down, raven Fans.

You've you've been fair with your critique. Appreciate that. Marcus.

I like to think I'm always fair, But I just got to call it like I see it is. And I know it's hard to understand. I was the first one to say about the Eagles. Y'all didn't want to hear me. Y'all call me a fans called me a hater. I say, you don't run the ball. Jayler Hurst is turning the ball over too much, and your defense don't get to the quarterback, and you don't take the wall away.

Uh.

Dan Boying said, did people miss when unc with lobby for Lamar to get paid? Nahin' no, no, no to dad, stop you make too much sense. I've been said that should have past said. Hung on, how you not go? How you not gonna pay the man? Y'all? Gonna let the ink drawn his contract and then talking about why he not there. Y'all know why I not there. Everybody else got contracts after the third year. Every other quarterback, Patrick Mahomes, Deshaun Watson, Joe Burrow, Justin Herbert, all of them guys.

Yeah, hell they they did. Jaylen Herst a solid.

This man got to play the contract completely, our ad play on the franchise tag. Yeah, come on, man, man, please let's get into this other game.

Which one? Which one going to the Chiefs?

Yeah? Hey, Jack Jones, Jack Jones, I know you in the chet watching black.

I know I need a jersey, baby.

Kansas City Chiefs opened the game with back to back three in our drives, and the Chiefs did not get it first down without a penalty until.

Their fourth possession.

The Chiefs finished the first first quarter with minus eighteen yards, the worst quarter by team since the Bears had minus twenty week fifteen of four Week fifteen, two thousand and four. We saw my Homes laying into his offensive line on the sideline. We saw Travis Kelsey get saw Ort pay slang his helmet and the equipment guy tried to go get his helmet, and Andy reason, Nah, don't give him his help man, and he bumped it. He's like, come on, now you are leader. We can't have you like that.

I think he deserves that job.

But you watch the Chiefs, and we've been talking about the Chiefs, and you see you.

Thought it would They're gonna get this thing together.

When you look at the Chiefs, and we're gonna touch on the Raiders also because we need to give them the flyers.

Also when you look at the Chiefs, what do you see?

I see a team struggling. I see a team struggling. Similar how Lamar has to carry the load, but actually not as much anymore because of the supporting casti that they put around Lamar with the Ravens. I see Patrick Mahomes having to do more, having to do more with teams. Now, okay, listen, we plan, we plan, we plan. Were playing the Chiefs. What do we do. We're gonna lock it on Kelsey.

What do they have to do? Offensively? They have the scheme ways to get their players open?

They have do they who do they have with the DNA or I call it the fortitude to be able to nobody one matchups consistently come hell high water. They don't.

They don't have that. They don't have that.

So it puts the owners in the pressure on Patrick Mahomes. They have to create miracles first down, create a miracle, second down, create a miracle third down. And it's just not possible. And now you're seeing the frustration boil over because everything is on his shoulders. Mm hmm. And Kelsey can't do it all. He can't do It's only so many it's only so many times what you put on film is going to work.

At some point, the NFL catches up to you.

At some point, the NFL catches up to the offense that you're running in your tendencies. And that is what we're seeing now because there's nobody over there. There's no Tyreek Hill, there's no Tyreek Hill. There's no security blanket for him right now, because the security blanket is Travis kelce Oh, well, we take Travis Kelcey out the game.

Yeah, we tell him what else you got?

What else you get? That's no disrespect to anybody else on that team offensively.

But I'm just calling a spade a spade.

That has to be another outlet that is a threat that poses some type of threat, and they just don't have that.

No, they do not have that. And you and I both know this. There's only so many formations you can run. There's only so many times you can bunch it or stack it. There's only so many times you can motion. There's only so many times you can get a three by one or two by two or three by two. There's only so many formations. And at some point in time, you got to have a guy that says, you know what, just go get open, just go get open. And they

Then they're not even moving.

They're not even moving.

You got a guy that you know can throw the ball over your head, he said, But y'all not gonna go down. Y'all not finna run no routes to go get it. So I'm sitting on everything. That's why the guy was talking about how you picked it. Now, Mahomes did throw it off his back, but.

That too, Oh.

You ain't see the receiver falling away from the.

Ball, got Scott Moore.

Yes, you gotta cup, you gotta attack the ball.

Oh lord, see see you you and out here we see it's little. It's little stuff like that, oh Joe, that that allows a dB to undercut and to make a play on the ball. And because Patrick Mahomes is pressed, because now he feels, man, I gotta make every play and he's taking unnecessary risks putting it. Do you know the raiders or seventeen points and never completed the pass within those seventeen points.

And Mahome.

Look, Patrick Mahomes, he's accomplished what he's called accomplished. He's a two time league emm me P, a two times Super Bowl A winner with a Super Bowl MVPs. But right now he's pressing and he's not playing well. Yeah, and it's exacerbated because he doesn't have anybody that can bail him out. He doesn't have anybody that he could just dump the ball to or just hand the ball to, like a Christian McCaffrey. Yeah, Rock, I mean brock Perty

Yeah, yeah, yeah, Home Mahomes doesn't have that. They're gonna have to They're gonna have to dress that. They're gonna have to address that in office.

They could have addressed it. They had an opportunity to get the Hawk.

The hot. I don't think the money was right. I don't think the money was right for the hot. I say, I don't think the money was right, and I think they feel like, you know it.

No, it wasn't me saying, but you got to make the money right.

I see what you're saying. But they don't want they don't want to make the money right because they feel if Patrick Mahomes can get it done because he did.

It without Tyreek before.

So if we didn't have a dynamic player in Tyreek and he left, but we still won the Super Bowl, I think we can get it done with the group we have in here now. But now as you see this season, now you have to address it. You have no choice but to get a dog in there. You have no choice.

Nothing is more burstsome, burdensome, but tedious than expectations. See when Tyreek left, they didn't have no expectations. I don't think Mahomes can do it because looking he got a sky More and they had this guy, and they had that guy. There wasn't the expectations to get to it win the Super Bowl like it is this year. Because God Moore is in his second season, Kadarius Tony has a full season in this system, NBS has another year in this system. So the expectations this year were different

Not even dressing.

Ross.

I remember a ross.

He was a freshman at Clemson and did a demolition job on Alabama. And you know, he had an injury that caused him the missile I think an entire season. And he has some issues off the field this year that caused him miss five or six games. And but like you said, they take Kelsey away, and there's like and because even Kelsey has been bitten by the drop bug. He had a ball, He had a ball, he jumped to catch it with one hand.

And all he needed to do is this reach out. That's all he had to do.

But all of a sudden, it's contagious and everybody's dropping the ball. Nobody's but the offensive line. I saw that the first game of the season. You you you signed a guy in Fridges from Jacksonville who was just a guy. You get done Vin Smith, who's agent, who was old and hurt last year in Tampa. Yeah, and you bring him in and guess what, he's old and he's hurt now, and so you bring the backup in and he's getting blown by by Coop everyplace. Max Crosby is a different animal.

Is completely different. Animal you know of who remember Jared Allen? Yes, yes, yeah, got me a Jared Allen.

You know Alan used to be in in Kansas City. I think I might have called one year him. I'm not certain, but you know he ended up going to a Minnesota Minnesota. But I saw Max Crosby line up on the offensive right side.

They run a quick screen to Kelsey on the left.

Side side, and he made the tackle tackle, I said, I said, And.

I'm thinking to myself, I said, I know.

Max Crosby just didn't make the tackle because I knew where he lined up.

At on the opposite side of the God damn phield. He made the tackle, hit Kelsey dead in his face. Yeah, I'm like, what the hell? Now?

Back to the Raiders. I still think they need a quarterback. They're wasting Davonte. I was just wating Davonte. Josh Jacob, I mean white rad I think that's hold on. Let me see hold on, let me get a bit the stash here. You know, I like, you know, I got new gas. You know, I feel like I'm I feel like I'm a Tom Cruise of Minoriti report. You know, I'll be hit that screezy I'll be hit. That's creepy.

Yeah, yeah, that what I be doing.

Z White twenty two rushers the buck, forty five for there you wrong, remember o Jo Camp City was trying to get the ball back. I can't get y'all this ball back. Hold lo, let's take this thing over. He ran the air out of the ball, ended up be taking a nail down. So twenty two for a buck, forty five for him, twenty nine carries one fifty seven ain't no column was now the twenty one for sixty two yards.

That just goes to show you turn them all over.

Yeah, they farm before touchdown through what a pig six four touchdown, had another interception that led to a field goal.

That's fourteen points.

Yeah, so you scored fourteen again, it's getting very difficult for the candle. What oh yo, man, you know Kansas City, you already know you had to score twenty eight to thirty one to beat them in.

There, beat them. Oh yeah, and this is just last year, now, yeah, just last year. It's the funny thing about it is Mahomes has been that great. He's been that great where it's almost as if he's damn their immortal at the quarterback.

Position.

That's the way he's made it look so far in the short amount of time to be able to win two Super Bowls. He's in what fifth year, fifth year or six year? Twenty sixteen was his rookie season, right, mahon.

Twenty seventeen was his rookie season he won the MVP, and eighteen because Lamar was a rookie in eighteen won the mv nineteen and so yeah.

Okay, but well right, yeah, so what have you been able to accomplish in such a short amount of time. How good he is, how good he is with all the throws, and you know, we're enamored by some of the things that he can do on the field. Winning two Super Bowls and such a short amount of time, it's almost become a thought that, well, we can have lesser.

Talent around him because he is so great.

Yes, but now, at some point, like I said earlier, teams they study you, they watch film, they understand your tendencies, and we say, well, you know what, the only weapon they do have is eighty seven. So all we got to do is locking on him, and it's only so much creativity you can do.

Listen, when they.

Were rolling offensively, they were doing all type of ring around the.

Roads and stuff outside the huddle.

You can be creative when nobody knows what the hell you getting ready to do. Now everyone else is caught up. Everyone else is caught up, and now you have to have those boys in there where you can't scheme anybody together. You got to be able to line up and say

You better have the same smoke for Mahome boy like you have for Lamar, and he won the MVP with our receivers. I mean, if you look at it, I mean, look, I think Mark Andrews was there when Lamar won the MVP last year. Travis Kelsey was there with Mahomes when he won the MVP. The other years I think he had he obviously had Tyreek. I think Sammy Watkins was there also the year he won the MVP. But at some point in time that catches up with you. Yeah, it catches up with you.

See.

You know what happened, Ojo is that peoplework had convinced themselves that Edelman and Amon Dola and Wes.

Welker they were just guys. They're not They were really good.

See now, we based receivers on if you not Tyree, or you not aged a Brown, or you not Chase, or you not.

JJ justin Jefferson, you're not any good.

No.

For that system and for what they need, they weren't good. They were great. Welcome was great. I mean you talk, I mean go back and look at welcome numbers. What he got there, he was getting one hundred and twenty two, one hundred and twenty five catches.

Yeah, a lot.

Go back and look at Edelman, go back and look at Ammon Dola. Those guys were really really good given what they were asked to do.

They were not outside the number of guys they were.

Everything they did was in the middle of the field and you got to take it go ahead.

That's basically when you think about the makeup of the New England offense during those Tom Brady, that Tom Brady era, if you think about it, they wanted a few teams in the NFL where everything was run from the inside out. Yes you think you think about that, everything was run from the inside out. So your number one is your number one. You read start from here as opposed to others where you got dominant rye receivers on the outside and you restart from one in your process from there

Yeah, and so you're absolutely right.

And what they would do is that then they catch you sneaking there like, oh, I'm gonna jump this inside route, and now they throw the ball to the outside. Just think about when they had Randy. They didn't win the Super Bowl with the head Randy.

Hey, they went undefeated until what thatst that last game.

Last game against the Giants in the Super Bowl.

Yeah, and so so that's that's the That's the thing is is that just because the guy isn't first team All Pro and he's not a perennial Pro Bowl player, that doesn't mean that he's not good. We've got to stop this note you, But he ain't. He ain't Tyreek.

Who is? Yeah, nobody, no matter.

You have to understand.

Remember it was all finding good when Randy was catching passes. The moment Randy started complaining what happened, Ojo.

Got to go.

Why so you have to understand what you man, JJ and Chase and all those guys. Man, they're not finny going those three four games and catch two three passes. So coach Belichick understands. He's like, man, look, everybody, everybody ain't built for the co What I mean by that, everybody's not built to play. Just because you're a football player and you're a great one, that doesn't mean you're built to play in New England.

Everybody can't play in New England.

And unless you've been there, or talk to people like I have that have been there, right, then you can then you can properly assess and understand that it's more than just talent to play in that system. But congratulations to the Raiders. The Raiders played. The Raiders did what they needed to do. I'm happy for the Raiders because I really want Ap to get that job.

I think we will serve what you mean, I think you want him to get it.

I mean it's it's it's a it's a no brainer.

What is management gonna do?

O Joe.

We saw the same thing in Carolina with Steve Wilkes when he took over for Matt Rule had him playing extremely well. He won a bunch of ball games. What's Matt Rule left? And the team the players wanted it? What did he do? No?

Was it mattru who got fired? And he came in? He came in for Steve Wills and they ended up hiring Matt Rule? Who got fired? Was it Matt Rule? Matt Rule got fired and Steve Willis build in?

Okay, yes, and played and the guy and the team played well and the players wanted him.

This is different.

The players need to divorce their opinion. I'm sure they sure they can't. I'm sure they can. Listen, look, look what pierces this is. Matt mcdamie's has been fired. They be They four and three? They four and three this first time the Red the Raiders winning case since week five and twenty twenty. So, if you have your players responding to a certain coach and plant at a high level without a consistent quarterback, a franchise change in quarterback,

It only makes sense. Who are you going to hire?

Who are you going to go get that can do a better job than what Antonio appears in doing with a team that doesn't have an elite quarterback at the helm.

Remember you remember when they win gave John grew In one hundred million dollars for ten years. You remember when they just when they just gave a Josh McDaniel all that money. Yeah, Okay, the Raiders are a boy splash that they always want the name. They probably had more Heisman Trophy winners on their roster, that's what That's what al Al love Heisman Trophy winners. He loved big names. He loved big name coaches. Right, you don't gives a ten year deal, hotoe. We never heard of that. Nope

But you might have to pay John Gruden sixty million dollars.

You got at least sixty million dollars tied up in Josh McDaniel.

Damn like names. He thinks that wins.

Doesn't.

But the Patriot Way ain't no Patriot way. The Patriot Way was Tom Brady. The Patriot Way only works in New England. Look at all the coaches that's from Belichick Tree, and it's a lot of them. Tell me the one that's won outside of New England. Charlie Wise, Romeo Carnell, Bill O'Brien, Josh McDaniels. Josh McDaniel's had two jobs and got fired halfway through the second year in both of them, one eating in one because he couldn't coach in Denver.

Yes, he tried to do what they was doing in New England.

Yea, that ain't gonna work.

No, mostly Nona, You're not Finna. You're not finna target my reputation. That ain't gonna happen.

Right, So.

Alan Shepard donated fifty dollars. Then you wanted to ask, what's up you know eighty five? Speaking of defenses, did you see the Raiders pillage? Neither quarterbacks and work on the old line. But that defense has been a problem since they dropped the Patriot Way. Yeah, the Patriot Way

You know, sometimes the executive talked to.

The workers a certain type of way, right, and then you take it like, well, we are getting nice paychecks and we are the top company.

Right.

Josh McDaniels thought he could go to Denver. Probably he could take that same thing to Oakland. Talk to people the mean player, talk down to his coaches, give people his butt, the kids. If they know that ain't gonna work, Bro, nobody's gonna want to play for you.

Definitely, not definitely, and it definitely ain'nna work if you don't have the quarterback in place. No, that could better win slack for the areas that are weak. You had a lot of stuff and you got a great quarterback.

Tom was different.

Man.

We're with forty three, we're forty three thousand in the chat O Joe.

Forty three, forty three thousand people. I love you.

He let him get it.

Fifty.

Call somebody to call a family member, call two family members.

Of the friend we try to get. Tell them, tell them to getting that thing real quick.

Hey people, I see some of y'all complaining about these ads?

Bro, how you think we make money?

Wait what they complain about?

Somebody were putting ads in the chat? How you think money? Just let me ask you a question. Watch the ad? Oh look, o jo ojo? How if they need networks make money? They don't have come you don't have none to stop football? You don't say nothing when they score a touchdown or when they get an interception and they cut to a commercial bills. Now you got two pole hustlers. Oh good, Oh, y're trying to make an honest hustle.

Tell I'm just I'm just trying to catch up on child sport, man, that's all.

Well, I don't got our child support, but I need a little money. Guys, I'm sorry that we have to put ads in here, but that's the only way you know it takes.

You know, Oh, Joe got a staff.

I gotta staff the volume who I co partnered with, They got staffed. They have to cut this stuff up. It's doing this stuff with YouTube. Come on, guys. Yeah, cut us, cut us some slack stall us out work work work with us, now, yeah, I.

Work with us.

See, you can always buy that YouTube premium. They don't have no ads on YouTube premium.

Hey you how much YouTube premium costs?

You think?

Don't start me to line.

Hell, I don't even know how much YouTube called let alone the premium. You know, premium gas is hot, the regular gas, that hot kids gas.

Yeah, uh, before you finished, you took about gas.

I'm lost what kind of car you drive?

I got an EV from BMW, so I'm seventy.

So premiums like ninety eight?

Yeah, h A premium is back in the South, we call it the hot test gas.

That white gas. You know, I think it's twenty three obtained.

It's ninety three obtained, right, ninety three obtained, So you know you might have gas. Let's just say you get gas that's four point fifty four seventy nine? Is that hard tange?

Now?

Out here in California, I think it's six dollars a gallon, maybe.

Six thousand gallon for who if you drive, if you drive a premium card, it requires premium lettered yo car. That's why I got me a ev and yo, and you want to jump my money jump on it.

Yeah, And you wonder why I've been driving a small cast in two thousand and six. I go, I go fill it right now. Fourteen dollars, fifty five miles of the Gallon Park anywhere.

Fifty five miles of Gallon. I mean, it's gonna take you two days to get somewhere.

Nah, what you mean my my uh well, my my dometer speed I hit about not get by one hundred, one hundred and five.

Man, you're hitting one hundred and five of that? Yeah, not fred Flints.

Don't Cary, No, don't don't talk about my call like that. Don't do that. That's disrespectful. I ain't say nobody said, I ain't say nobody to be.

That Eve though that I think nice. We're Eve saying for electric vehicle.

My bad.

I guess I should have said electric vehicle, but I thought I thought everybody knew what it was.

Okay, man, you know I ain't in the cars.

Man, I got my small I got listen, I got my little smart car.

Whatever what I got?

Oh, Joe, I gotta I gotta e d you.

I don't know.

I don't know what ev is I never heard of that.

You should have said I have a BMW but it's electric.

Okay, yeah, no, it's an electric vehicle.

I thought you do My bad, dude, I'm not in the cause. I apologize.

I know what YouTube premium is. Fifteen ninety nine a month, man, Come on, chat, that's at all of us up?

Bro, all y'all got to do? Can y'all wife like ten fifteen seconds of the half?

Hold on, we know what we should do. Let's make a commercial where it's a commercial for Nightcap and we are the ad.

Can they do that or no?

I mean I kind of did that, like in the lead and leading up to it, I had to read for a draft Kings, who's one of the big sponsors.

Okay, I think that as we move.

Forward, we're gonna I'm gonna we're gonna have I mean, if you want to do some read you can, but big yeah.

I know how to.

I know how to read too, know how to read out the prompt. Yeah, oh yeah, real good, I'm real good. I'm real good. Okay, I'm real good.

But uh yeah, but that's uh the chat calling you Fred Flintstone. But YouTube premium is fifteen ninety nine a month. I don't know how much regular YouTube bills. I don't really know anything about that. But that's free.

It's free. But that's the price that you I mean.

I mean, guys, all the years that y'all been watching sporting events, name the time that the game goes twelve minute quarters, twelve minutes and it goes NonStop, don't take no time out, and they don't show you no they just keep it on the game. In football, any change of possession. For the most part, they cut the commercial.

They got too. They got to pay them bills. You got to pay them bills every time.

I gotta pay Ash, I gotta pay Gjeordan, I gotta pay old Shoe, I gotta pay I be damn. Hey, y'all want me to y'all want me to pay the money out of my pocket.

Hey, But speaking speaking of pan you finish. I'm finna act a fool on my birthday. We're your birthday. My birthday is January ninth, and I'm finna. I'm finna do a little do something a little different that I never never done before.

And I'm just thanking you ahead of time because what you.

Make it, but what you have been able to stow upon me and allow my cup to run it over. I'm gonna go ahead, Hey, I'm gonna go ahead and bless myself and act act a fool on my birthday. You go buy yourself something. You just gonna have a par Yeah. No, I'm gonna buy myself something. I'm gonna get.

Tell you, I can't tell you get. I can't tell you, but I'm I'm gonna.

Cut up because you know you you You've been a blessing to me, and I thank you. So I'm I'm gona get. I'm gonna go outside in my box for a little bit.

Ain't nothing wrong with that, Hey, bro, this has been a blessing for both of us. I couldn't have done it without you.

It works.

It works because of who you are. It works because of who I am. We're different in a lot of ways, in a lot of ways that were similar. So I appreciate you being a part of this, and I appreciate the fans for embracing us and giving us the opportunity to share some of the stories and some of our analysis on three nights a week, the Giants. The Eagles beat the Giants thirty three twenty five Tommy DeVito was replaced by Tyrod Taylor.

In the third quarter.

Giants entered the half trading twenty to three, and Tyrod nearly brought them back back. Nearly brought the Giants all the way back after talking one hundred and thirty three yards and a touchdown. The Eagles intercepted his final pass, final pass attempt into the end zone, and the Eagles were able to hang on to a victory. I like Tyrod. I mean ty Rodd was a starting quarterback. He took Buffalo to the playoffs. They lost the hardball game in

He was.

He was a backup Joe Flacco in Baltimore the year they won the Super Bowl in twenty twelve, if I'm not mistaken. So uh, I've always had a lot of a lot of respecting the admiration for ty Rod. And he's a uh you know, he had got bad luck because he was pagged to be the starting quarterback for the Chargers.

Yeah.

Uh, he had a real injury against an injection and the punctured his lung.

Lung. Doctor he ship three, you can't suit for that. Huh, yeah you can't. That's math practice. Yeah he probably did there, you can't suit you.

Say he did?

Yes, damn cost him a starting job.

And had potentially caught him because he was he was he was a free agent, so it had pretty potentially cost him greater earnings.

Right right, We won't get it. We won't get it that.

Okay, Joe, you kind of redeem yourself. I remember you did say all that about Lamar.

Damn.

I hate to admit it. Thank you, sir, Thank you. You're one of the ones that will admit it. All the other ones they won't admit it even though they know I said it, because they got a narrative going. And so we want to keep the narrative that Shannon Hayes Lamar when all y'all seen me stand up, y'all remember when Colin Kaepernick, y'all, remember when George Floyd, when everybody else, when everybody else was shining away from it, how skipped in FS one.

Let me stand on that plan for me talk about it. Y'all forgot about that hard.

But now all of a sudden, after I spoke so outgoing about it, y'all, all of a sudden, I'm against my own people, really really, So that's that's that's what.

Y'all want to get going.

Wow, of all the things y'all can say, I mean, I'm sure there's some things out there that you can say.

Oh man, he talked out on. He makes me sick. He make he knows everything. I told you. I don't know everything.

I know a little bit about everything that's different, Like, come on, but you know I'm gonna be okay though.

Damn.

He asked another question, Dan d actually unbelievab. We're at this point. People make things up. Unk is always one who says pretty is an elite? I said that. The d O d O tried to he oh, he's elite. Has a quarterback? And this is what he said. Has a quarterback ever won the MVP? Not being elite? I said, uh, yeah, Rich Gannon won the MVP.

Was he elite?

No, there's another one. Matt Ryan was the MVP. Was he elite?

Brian Syke won the MVP for the Bengals. The Cardiac Kids. No, Ken Anderson No, so just because you win the MVP, that doesn't make you elite. We need to see a body of work. It's a body of work that makes you elite. So this notetion. We seen a lot of guys great receiver have one great year or running back or dB and then what so, No, one season doesn't make you a leak. I'm a firm believer in that. I'm must stand on that. So I'm not saying brock Pretty isn't a good player. I didn't even say that

Yeah. I mean the body of work is what comes in the play. When we talk about elite players regardless of position, I'm gonna go for the owners of talking about receivers. Receivers are elite. You can do it your first year, but can you do it when they know it's coming?

Can you do it year two? Can you do it the third year? Can you do it when a game planning to stop you and you still get it going?

Yeah? Like that's when you know you elite? Yes?

Yes, When when the deef coordinator get up there and they break it down and they circle. Now we got to watch eighty five now right right, he's great in transition. He can get in and out of breaks. Yes, then just run after the catch. Now, he ain't gonna block that much bag, so you don't trying to rough him up in the blocking game, in the running game and try to push him into the power. But you know when we when you explaining a receiver, you explained it. Okay,

Guy, but he will cat. He's tough in traffic.

He's tremendous transitioning, getting in and out of break is what his specialty is. He has great hands and he's tremendous run out of the catch.

Yeah, he got less scoo than him.

Now he gottah.

So that that's that. I mean that that's how we look at it, the same thing we look at a dB. Okay, he's very handsy. We can get I mean, you know, hey, he's strong, he's long arm. He's gonna try to ride you. So you're gonna have to you know, we're gonna start, We're gonna throw some balls at him.

Were gonna double movie because he will bite. He aggressive.

Yeah, and if somebody like, oh he wants to sit on routes, Okay, we're gonna say this is not about We don't care if we catch it.

We just want to know. We will throw this over your head. Yeah yeah, we just want to play at that seed right in his mind. Make you think twice about sitting next time. Yeah, yeah yeah.

T J the stunt said, ma'am, I got I got my I got my uncle that lapotier from Christmas. He took one stelf and now he's stepping in in the name of love all day. Step I ain't gonna think you but okay, hey, TJ, I really appreciate it, man, thank you for the support. Uh, miss mister Sharp said, Oh Joe, my incredible wife got me eighty five cigar gift card. Should I get the boy theta of the l patron to go with my lapotier Kangyac for New Years?

Yeah? Get that boy beat Get that boy beater, man. It represents obviously the good life.

For a reason.

Uh. When you when you when you smoke it, you gonna enjoy it is very smooth if you if you're not an experienced cigar smoker, obviously, it's it's for the novice. Uh, smooth, not too straight, No novice. I'm sorry. Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You got you got me on my.

You've been dragging tonight.

Yeah, just my little red boy real quick. I'm trying to stay up. I got I gotta fight it. I gotta fight at five am, so I'm trying to make sure I stay up. Okay, it's not too spicy, it's not too peppery. Is very smooth if you're not a kind of sore of cigars. So you're gonna enjoy it. Enjoy it being said, will you give Baker any praise?

Thirty five hundred plus yards, twenty six s, touchdown, eight interceptions, ninety six point two QBR. Baker Mayfield has played really well. I think Baker needs to be the starting quarterback moving forward for the Tampa Bay.

Buccaneers long term, long term deal.

He has a great connection. Now, I don't know what's gonna happen with Mike Evans. Mike Evans was very frustrated because he wanted a long term deal at the beginning of the season.

It didn't get worked out. You know how they play games now, everything they having the best.

Mike Embers might be having the best career of it, his best season of his career, and he couldn't pick the better time to have it. But to think, oh, Joe, you know how I get you started to getting to be thirty. They think you can't play no more.

They're gonna play with you every time. They gonna play with you every time. Listen, that's the nature of the business. Not only are they gonna play with you when you get thirty, you know what they also do They also find a way to work you out the system. The opportunities, for some reason, are all of a sudden you hit thirty, the opportunity start to decrease.

But what the hell is going on? I was a focal point of offense.

Now if you look at across the league for years of all the great receivers that have never gotten hurt, just notice how they the the opportunities decrease and the first thing they come and say to you at the end of the season where you know, uh, your production is started starting not to look the same. It seemed like you lost a step. The targets to targets did come exactly and they do it every time.

But this way they do to yo jo.

They said, you know.

You're kind of getting a little older, and uh, you're not making the plays you once did. Uh, we were thinking about reducing your salary. I said, Oh, but y'all want to reduce my salary. But y'all want me to.

Make the plays like I did when.

Y'all playing me a lot of money. Now you make it. Go make this oyo.

So you're gonna cut my pay, but I need you to make them same plays.

Oh okay, listen, hey, but the business is a dirty game. Now it's a dirty game, and they they love to play it, and they play it very well. And how you think they Listen, If you don't understand the game they have, you think it's something wrong with you.

Yes, yes, I man. I had a allboy.

He told hey, they wouldn't give me he would they wouldn't give him a contract. Instinct, he say, for what y'all paying me, I'm gonna get you all that. That's the kind of work I'm gonna give you. Oh they end up trading it. Yeah, they got you. He said, y'all pay He said, y'all pay me five hundred thousand. I make five hundred thousand worth of plays. I don't

You thought they was getting the money.

Listen, when we ask a question, you do realize it's on a game to game basis, So so you think party based on tonight, you think party should get a forty million dollar contract, cause you just if you just looking at it like that. Okay, fine, we take a game to game. Right, Lamar is playing. They won nine out of ten of their first six games. How many

About that player?

Okay, when that is my time to critique because you do realize, like, oh, Cho and I like, when we come on here, we could talk about whatever we want to. But when I go on ESPN, I'll talk about what we talk about. That's not my show. This is our show. This is uncan Ojoe's show, So we get to talk about it. But if I talk about it, and I don't say what you want me to say, or you don't like what I say, then I'm a hater. Well, I'm sure at some point in time that people thought

Wait?

Did you say anything bad about me when I played? I'm sure I did. I can't remember.

Oh, Joe, you got rich old chat y'all. Look chat y'all looked at old chat. Let me know, let me know if I'm saying something so we could address that. Yeah.

I probably said something about the pilloy you was getting for a celebration.

Oh I didn't. That was worthy, that was worthy.

Yeah, Oh Joe. You got to realize, man, you've been retired. You've been retired of decade.

Bro, I ain't been retired. What you talking about? No, I haven't when you were your last game.

Twenty fourteen.

Uh, somebody tell him that's a decade fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen, twenty, twenty one, twenty two, twenty three.

I'm just I'm just planned listen, I've been retired.

What twelve twelve thirty the last time you played with twenty twelve, which is twelve years it was.

Yes.

For Yeah, I didn't feel like I feel like I don't know what it feels like.

I'm just telling you what it is.

I'm just saying how I feel. It feels like I just played. If it feels like I'm not too far removed from the game, you are, you are.

They don't feel like it though, I can still play the high Like.

Creation one said, does two have a chance to win it for the MVP if he beats Lamar Jackson and the Baltimore Ravens on the road next week and get the number one seed?

That's a that's a that's a good question. That's a great question, especially with the way Lamar looks against the forty nine ers. What happened if two and that offense comes in and does what the forty nine ers couldn't do offensively? Well, you said, that's all.

We ain't no way Lamar Jackson gonna look like Rock Perdy did tonight. So that's a mood point.

Yeah, you're right. I mean, that's why that's why I didn't say. That's why I didn't say Lamar Jackson have a game like that. That's why I said, if the offense, if thet the the Dolphins offense can do what.

Rock Perty didn't do.

Again, Well, first of all, they're not gonna get that opportunity to with without those turnovers. Yeah, yeah, you have to you have to fact that, you have to factor that is also but uh, the Raiders get to win today on the road. Uh, the Ravens get to win on the road. The Eagles were the only home team that won on Christmas Day. All the other all the other home teams tasted defeat. Uh. Patrick Wooler Woolly Willy said, unconnote your merry Christmas a day one, Thank you, Patrick.

Yeah, absolutely so. So so when they call Alex Sabeth the game manager when he played with the Chiefs, do you think that was disrespectful they.

Called him that, Yes, Look I called him check down Alex. Because about think about it. Think about it, old Joe. Think about the numbers that they were putting up and they still moved heaven and Earth.

They traded up seventeen.

Spots to get Patrick mahone right, right, because Andy believe this offense could go to another level if they had a guy with a stronger arm and that was willing to take risks. And we see, like I said, Travis Kelson was getting a thousand yards of season, Tyreek was Tyreek. Now Tyreek laid up aloft, blossomed and became a true wide receiver and not a gadget guy because he could run the entire route treat So that's the difference. And it's like so they view it as as uh, it's

Receiver?

Whoa whoa?

Well, Steve Larger was a possession receiver and he retired with the most catches in the most yards at the time in the NFL history.

Mm hmm.

So uh, but you said, uh, I don't know, it's not it's nothing in the water.

It's nothing in the water.

The AFC North is a physical team. You look at the turnovers. Brock Perty had three, didn't he have like two or three against Cleveland? He had a couple, if I'm not mistaken, he had a couple against Cincinnati.

Turn them all over.

I don't care.

I don't care how great you are, because I've said it before. When you turn them if you are a better football team, if you're here and teams be's here, you turn the ball over. Whether you go down or you raise them up, you bring them on your level.

Oh Joe.

So now, and the more you turn it over, the more you go and look at the separation. You see where that goes. And that's and that's what happened. And now you look see when you played Cleveland, you know you missed the field goal that would I think won the game or even tied the game. You turn them all over against the Ravens are far a team, that's all. But that's basically on your level. You look like you look tonight. They run away with the game. That's that's

And why do quarterbacks view game manager as disrespectful?

Well, I think just like you said, when you are a game management at the quarterback position, I heard Cam actually say that too. It is they don't ask much of you. They don't ask you to do much. They asked you to facilitate the ball, to take what they asked you not to, not to take the chances that that most would take where they allow you depending on your skill set and your talent level in your in your in your arm your arm talent. Uh, then those

I don't really.

I don't really see it as a disrespectful thing, because if you're a game manager, you're just not losing the game or making the mistakes that other other other quarterbacks make. And you give you, you always have you, you always give your team. How is that a bad I don't see what they're saying.

Don't you the game up, because we're not going to put you in the situation where we allow you to take risks. So don't you take risks on your own. We're gonna run the football. We're gonna make it real easy for you. Okay, we're gonna call this coverage. We're gonna call this play. We think it's gonna be discoverage. You go there with the football. Oh like Pat, you man, You're like, okay, okay, Pat, go.

Do what you do.

Ok Okay, Brady go do what you do.

Okay.

Pay Well, you know, Peyton calling his own his own game anyway. So guys like that, Joe Burrow, guys like that that. You're like, okay, but there are times that you need to manage the game. Even the greats have been game managers at one point in time.

Or nothing, and that's what. But it's knowing when to do it. It's knowing when.

To do it. Oh, this is the type of game. Oh, I see what type of game this is gonna be. This is a game that could possibly be fourteen thirteen thirteen ten. I can't take the unnecessary risk. I can't put our defense and harm's way. It's knowing. So I agree with you. Faith donated two hundred dollars Hi O O, Joe and Shamnon and rant Man by two hundred, she says by twenty twenty. By twenty fifty three, the net worth of African Americans is predicted to be addicted to

Hm, you think that's true. And when they do the when they do these statistics, how many people do they how do they even do these statistics?

Anyway?

So I always thought that what does the theory come from?

And sometimes they're surveys, sometimes they're questionnaires, they're brochures that get the census.

Hey, think about think about this when it comes to surveys and brochures and all that stuff. When the last time somebody coming to you with a survey and you actually sat there.

I don't fill it out, o yo, But you know exactly that's why our you know ours know how much you make?

Right? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah?

Oh you really think you really think it comes from the irs?

And would you Hey, look here, I don't trust nobody, all right, you right? Average black household forty four thy nine hundred, average white to eighty five?

Yeah huh? Is that really the difference?

Asian is five thirty six?

So you got black at forty four nine, white two thirty six, Asian.

Five thirty five.

I wonder why that is because a lot of times those two other demographics they come up with, they come and have ideas and create things that make money.

Black people spend money.

Oh, somebody created that Louis Briton that the black person buys, but he ain't got no money to put in it. He or she doesn't have money to put in it. You see the difference. Come on, now, each his own. That's that's that's that's a whole discussion. That's a whole other discussion. Mark, Hispanic is sixty one, So we're the lowest forty four nine sixty one for Hispanic two which you say, two eighty five for white, five thirty five for Asian.

That's I mean, well, I'm not gonna say that because obviously me being the finance.

Measure question, I am we on social media that who on social media flashing the big old files of money?

Who got the money? Held up to the here.

The rappers.

Who pretending they're getting on Who the who pretending they're getting on the jets?

I ain't telling you that's your I don't tell anybody how to spend their money. You earn it, you do with it as you choose. Because have I flown private jet? Yes, I ain't got no money with you. I ain't got no mondy, but I will work my ass. I'm gonna get it if it's out there. I saw listen. Once I saw the US government print money during the pandemic. Okay, so y'all got a surplus of it, because if you don't have enough, that's what your friends some more.

Yeah, what's it's out there?

Is that there.

Let me find my niche, let me find Let me find something that I can do that I can make money from.

Legally, it's enough for everybody.

Yes, yes, And I'm willing to work and put the for the end. That's what I'm willing to do. Ugin on your Merry Christmas. Love the show. I'm curious to know which training camp was the most challenging to adjust to college of the NFL.

Man the NFL is that they just put so much on your plane. It's just like and and you gotta get it.

Because when once we go install, ain't no ay, you go install Monday, install Tuesday, install Wednesday, install Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday before you go back to Monday. So if you don't get Monday, we on a Tuesday. If you didn't get Tuesday, now you're behind on Monday and Tuesday we on the Wednesday.

So it's more of a mental game.

Uh.

In college, the three hour practices you young too, you young. I don't know what to color. I mean, you think about it. I went to college down there forty years ago, but the playbook, the playbook wasn't as as complex and complicated like it is now. I mean, I'm sure some of these college lay books UH is off the charts. But you know, we was out there practicing doing UH training camp in college. We was out there probably about six hours a day. Thud, Well, ain't no food. We

Yeah.

And so I think that for me, O Joe, the NFL is more is more of a mental because man, they own you.

Mistakes. Mistakes cost people jobs because I mean you not you.

Especially during especially during training, people get cut and during training camp people get cut. They cutting you.

Ain't no getting Look if I'm on scholarship, they got to keep it for at least one year.

They are working the NFL. They don't have to keep you now.

And I had to coach, coach used to say that this ain't college son, we don't have to keep you.

Oh you don't.

No, No, we don't.

So you understand.

You understand very early on that the NFL is an absolute business and they're gonna keep the players that they think can help them win or in the future, like you know what, with a little season. I think this, I think this kid could be good. I believe that. I believe out you. I believe That's why they kept me. Yeah, I play. I was well so I could play all the special teams. I was a very good blocker because I was big, big wife deceiver. But you know Dan,

Mm hmm.

So kept me around. Hey I'm playing, Oh Joe, we playing some wide receiver. Hey, I'm Tim Brown, I'm I'm I'm Hey, I want to go where the ball going?

Well, Hey, when your scout team scout te.

Oho, you know they hold that thing up, they say, hey, you see that right there, that's you.

Hey, let me get that jersey. Let me get that jersey. You don't know what to do. Let me get that jersey.

Let me get that jersey, taking out taking all the scout team tight end.

Hey, I'm gonna tight end.

And they got a tight end like a jayon nova check h a starving Mary Cook used to play for the New England Patriots.

But the day at a tight end. I'm cooking, Oh Joe, I'm cooking.

Yeah, and and and and Wade, the defensive coordinator, said, don't worry about it. They tight end can't move like that. He won't be open like that. I'm cooking though, right, I'm cooking, so wave he blow the whistle, he said, dang, put his ass in the game and see if they can cover him, because we can't.

Right next week they move to tight end.

I'm in the game. I ain't looked back. Ain't look back, o Joe. But I would cut. I would cook it. I would cook it at the Oh, Joey, I get too.

Can't check be, can't check b Yeah, yeah, okay, okay.

Oh they take a chief shot said, oh cuz I'm talking. I'm talking to Joe. Oh, I'm.

Spiking the ball, putting the ball in the woods man. Hey man, man, I know Mike would, but then you know Dad, that didn't really carry He's like, okay, okay, that's that's that's enough. I said, Nah, I mean coach, Look I ain't talking to me. Yeah, I remembered everyone because oh they would count like blocking, because oh Joe, at that point in time, I'm probably like two fifteen. I would have lost twelve pound because I was like

Feeling good, feeling good.

But oh Joe, man, they throw me like a rag dolly they. I said, okay, guess what happened? Come one on one? I said, Now, who wants some of this smoke?

Who want this now?

Yeah? Right right, right right? Get out of there.

Touchdown, hold the ball up. I got the ball back. In their faith, they reach it for it. Oh Joe, I was a stone cold food with it. Oh I had to get him back. Michael nine, two one one six is harder task in your prime. Stop a Ronaldo Messi from scoring a penalty kick, stop at m J from scoring a basket, tackling Barry Sanders, or getting a hit off Randony Johnson.

First of all, hey.

That's that's a good Listen. Difficult, difficult feats to dude.

Name the person that you ever saw tackle Barry one on one.

Nobody said that that was that was gonna be my ass anyway.

Uh uh, that was gonna be my ass anyway.

You're not stopping no in the open field. You got no chance. You couldn't tackle a man on the phone boot. How the hell would do in the middle of the field.

You think, I ain't never.

I ain't never seen nobody come to balance like that and get up and get.

Rad get a hit off Randy Johnson ninety five mile hours slider.

That's not happening either.

You're not tackling Barry in the open field, stopping the m J from scoring a bucket.

Well, he might miss the bucket.

He might miss I mean, he might miss it, but oh Joe, Randy Johnson six foot ten and a half. Now he left it. So that ball you ain't hitting that? How many people we got to think about it? Professional hitters ain't hitting it.

Don't even hit that.

And first of all, that ball that by the time you swing the bat, that the catcher throwing it back to the picture on your here, pop swing, bro, that's in the glove. Honestly, I probably say I probably.

That's that's that's tough. A lot.

I've talked to a lot of guys that played Broke. I talked the prime, I talked the ball. Brian Jordan, they say, the hardest thing to do Now, Brian Jordan played safety baseball baseball.

Oh yeah, most definitely, most definitely. Do you know the percentage the percentage for sluggers or Hall of famers that have made it into the into the Baseball Hall of Fame, How low the percentage is?

You know how hard it is? You don't hard to hear the baseball.

Just imagine if you caught three out of ten passes that they threw to you, they throw somebody to lead. If you made three of the ten shots. I ain't talking about three three, I'm talking about regular shots. They get your ass somebody to leave. If you hit the baseball three out of ten times, you go into the Hall of.

Fame, Hall of Fame.

There you go.

I put it in context for you.

Yeah, that's that's crazy, because any any any other sport, three or ten, you're gonna be at home on the couch.

Luca had a fifty piece in the MAVs win Man Lucas.

Hey, how come I know? I don't I don't watch basketball much, but how can it look like he'd be moving in slow motion and still be.

Because he won't let you speed him up.

He kind of like his move His moves are very hurk Jerry, Yeah, yeah, it ain't quick like you know Kyrie is like it's quit handles within ten I don't know.

It's weird and his moves it'd be working.

They he's the second fastest score ten thousand points since Michael Jordan.

Something right, and.

The league just better hope he does just what he's doing that because if he ever took training, I'll talk about training serious and got in shape.

Right.

You don't think he's in shape, not the way he should be.

Okay, I see what you mean. I see what you mean.

But here's the thing, Like you said, look at this success. The man just dropped a fifty piece.

Mhm.

When you have that level success, Oho, how do you say this working for me? It's like a It's like a man like drinking. He drinks before the game and he said, man, if you didn't drink, He's like, but I just rushed for two hundred, right, I just I just dropped forty five? Why? I mean, why would I Why would I need to Why would I need to stop? That's that's the hard thing. I wasn't like that, O Joe. I was willing to try something. I mean, like it

Definitely, mister fob for donated one hundred dollars. He said. My guts tells me the Ravens will play for the AMC Championship.

However, my question is this, h who's the toughest person to block? Oh, Joe, who is your toughest corner to compete against? Man, Dude, think about it. I'm too twenty eight. I gotta try to block Reggie, Bruce Smith, Michael straighthand come on, man, man, give me a corner, give me a safety, Let me whip his ass. I get out of him flinging me out the way.

I mean.

And now they don't even really put the backers on the ball. Every once in a while you'll see them lying to Sam on the ball. Right now, mainly I'm doing give it a little football one on one. They play what we call an overfront. An overfront is four down linemen in tackle. Tackle in underfront is what we call where they had they have four down linemens and a linebacker on the ball.

That's what we call an underfront over four.

Down lineman, just as down lineman Sam Will Mike off the ball a forty three defense under what we call it twenty five front. Now you go to a thirty four defense is what the Pittsburgh Steelers play. Two backers Sam and Will on the ball, three down lineman, a nose, and two d ends. And now you got Mike and Plugg. So three four two linebackers, three down lineman's Mike plug under front, four down linemen, linebacker on the ball, over front for down lineman, and so it was a combination.

But good thing I have to block.

See I look at guys that were in my division because I didn't see brucee a lot. I didn't see Straight a lot. I think I only played against Straight played against him in the Super Bowl, and I think one other time. I think we played him in ninety eight. But straight was a hell raiser, man.

Strong as strong as hell, and man, look here he set the edge. Now.

Hey, he ain't gonna let you hook it. You ain't gonna read it now. Yeah man, he could turn you. Yeah.

Man, hey, prop good thing. They didn't never think I was gonna be blocking them when I was over there.

They always thought it was a past He's sitting like you know, they call that he sitting light. Yeah, you're right, I'm out. I'm about like a scout on a new route.

Yeah.

Hey, Handlem tackles the hardest to block.

I say, I'll say, I'll say, Reggie, rest your soul.

You know. The funny thing is, it's is funny sometimes. I mean, for me, those that are difficult to block, I didn't even have to block them. You know. All you gotta do is just take it run. I'm just saying, all you got to do is and just run them off. I ain't got to waste no energy. And I run

But my corner not gonna make it.

You know, I ain't want to waste no energy sitting there, you know, rastling with you and trying to show who been in the wait for what.

I used to like, oh choke when I had that safety and I push up and I see that safety come down that alley.

You go crack him because he don't see you coming because of his eyes in the backfield.

But you can't do that now, you know. You can't do that.

Noah, no, no, no, no, you can't do that.

You can't do that. If anything, you just get in the way and help put your arms up, like I'm like.

That's what all my sake, That's what all Miles Saint Brown did. That's what he got it because he tried to crack you know, he pushed up and then you come down on the safety that's looking to feel down.

Hen't even hit him.

He an't even hit he just he just thumped. He just thumped him up a little bit, just dumped him up a little bit. And they still find.

A linebacker. The other I think against the coats, he hit he hit a running back. The coat played the falcon. Yeah, he hit a running back on the sideline and they throw an under said roughness on it. So he's running the guy and he's going like this, and he came and he hit it unnecessarily rough and to say with helm and the helmet, well, how the hell I'm gonna get it?

Hey, that's that's what that's that's what the game has come to. That's what the game has come to. So you're gonna have to find a way to adapt. And like I said before, with the way to adapt, people are gonna start changing up the way they tackle, and they're gonna they gonna mess around and hurt himself.

Be out of the league because they're gonna be missing a bunch of times. Ronaldo Hernandez says, Uncle o Jo, do you guys have any supernatural stories? And uh, oh were you on him? American dad? Much love, happy, holidays.

You o, Joe, what's supernatural? When you say supernatural, give me give me better context.

Now betternatural like ghost stories or chairs moving or ghost store Oh.

Nah, nah, no, No, No, I know one thing I wish my mom and my grandma. You know me pooved me wrong, that there is after life, because ain't nobody gave me a sign.

They ain't came back and hollered at med.

Ain't you don't tell me you love me all the years you on earth and then when you transition, I don't even hear from you. Show me something, let me know that there is life after death. So that was I'm hoping at some point, you know, you can ask me this a few years from now or a few months from now, and you asked me about that supernatural story again, and I can say, you know what, my mama and my grandma.

They came to visit me.

I asked for a sign. And this was a sign that this showed me. My routine has always been the same.

A lot of people say, well, if you're paying attention, you'll see it. Well, i've been waiting. You've been waiting for it. I've been waiting.

My grandma passed in twenty eighteen. I've been waiting my mama passing twenty twenty one. I'm still waiting on something. My routine and.

What I do day to day has not changed any sign.

The busy working for the lower well, I'm working for the busy.

I'm working for them. To just give me something. Let me let me know everything good, Jarry said.

Joe, how do you deal with self doubt? I'm in college and I feel like I'm not smart enough. But I also don't want to be filled with regret later in life. I need words of wisdom. Do you want to take off first, o Joe, John, I'm gonna let you have that. With a self doubt that comes from within, and I ain't really nothing. I ain't letting nothing on the outside make me feel crazy on the inside that

They had you think it's something wrong with you. Same thing college will have you question yourself. Relationships and dealing with women sometimes and things don't work out.

That also had your question.

There's so many different factors in life that will have you question yourself. You can't do that self doubt. You can't allow anything outside to deter how you feel about yourself.

You got to keep going.

You got to keep pushing by all means necessary. O Jo.

I never had self doubt, like could I could I not do something right? But when you get released, you're like, but damn, I had the second most catches in the NFL for a tight end, had the second most yards, right, Damn. Then you go and you know, you think you're doing good and you think you're getting better in your craft, and CBS and they say, well, you know, we want to move in a different direction. And then the same thing happening at Fox and you're like, what damn? Everybody

Why?

Why?

The networks?

But my sister and I told Yo, Joe, my sister is very religious.

Just say, Shannon, God moved you.

They didn't.

He did because he wanted you to be somewhere better.

She said, nawh. Just trusting him.

Just trusting him. I did.

When I got let go from CBS, I took money out of my own pocket. Did you did a a Facebook It's called mouthing off where I would go take two or three games, I would break it down, and I did it every week. It cast me about thirteen thousand dollars to shoot it, to get it edited, put it up out of my own pocket. I ain't got no money coming in o jo, but I'm just putting it out there.

Let people know.

Hey, man, you know they would leave comments, good, I liked this commentary, blah blah blah, so forth and song. Then I get an opportunity to go on first take did that took off then with what transpired over the summer, like, man, I just need an opportunity, Steven. They had already put the bug in my hair and just like look, he said, I don't do the hiring over here, but I've already told my bosses.

That I want you, big boy. Yeah.

So now I'm like a man that ain't gonna ain't no way, ain't no way they're gonna break me. Talk to Dave Roberts. Just so happened. I'm gonna be in Atlanta. He's getting married. He's gonna be in Atlanta at the same regions. We gonna have breakfast. We don't done our research, We've done our homework. We know we get what you want to do. I said, Man, I want to work. That's what I do. I work, that's my purpose. I work Like okay, So by this time, I'm trying to

My mind is so ds. My mind is sods.

So ese.

I wake up every day like man.

And when I look when I went on, when I was like, okay, I gotta find a new job. I got the podcast. I'm gonna do that. C J has been by my side. He's been producing Club Sha Shape. So Yae, what you gonna say?

I go?

But ash So I like I cause I already told him. Once she started working with me at Fox, I said, you know, if I ever get my own show, you don't will take you?

She like, okay, I go. I mean no hands a tad like hold on.

She's like, I'll go. I'm like, okay, say I'm for real. She's like, okay, so transpired this summer. I don't know what I'm gonna do. I head up.

I said, what you're doing? It's like nothing working, blah blah blah. I say, uh, what you.

Want to do? You want to come with me? She's like, yeah, you know where you're going.

I say no. She's like, okay, okay.

Now she had no idea what I was gonna do because at this point in time, ESPN hadn't even happened. So even if I don't do ESPN, I'm gonna have to pay her out of my pocket. So she put in her you know she's gonna leave. Hey, what's your account number? I wire the money into account because I want her to know. Look, I said, this is what I'm gonna do, and even if it doesn't happen, you know, monthly, you're gonna get money.

Right and.

Night capus. She does a lot of the legwork.

I mean, we got the we got the easy part, o Joe, because talking is what we do, Analyzing the game is what we do. But the format and all the questions and how we're gonna you know how we're gonna formulate this. That's her. That's her. And so now I look back, I say, you know what, my sister was right. My sister was right. But I've never had I never had doubt. Like when I played football O Joe, I was like, I'm him, Yeah, I know, I'm here. I mean, ain't nobody to do what I do and

I'm doing a good job or I can do a good job.

And so and I think that's that's what meant meant because I don't know how much. And I'm sure they probably look, but I was, I'm on when steven A's on, So it's not like he gets an opportunity to see what I'm doing. I'm sure somebody people have told him about what I'm doing or how I'll saying, how go about my business? But he doesn't get a chance to watch, nor do I get a chance to watch him, because

You know? You got to? And I mean it all comes down to the key, the key component not allowing things on outside to deter you on how you feel. You can't oo.

They say, your grandma gave you a sign.

It's real rail your sign, but about like real like

That's a good one. Yeah, that's that's a nice little foundation now, a nice little struck like nice little structure.

It's it's funny when that you know what, I ain't a.

La said my girl and I broke up a month hold on my girlfriend and I broke broke up. I asked to get back together. I slept with someone else while broken up, And she says she doesn't know if she can get over it.

Any advice to change your mind?

No, absolutely, bro y'all broke it up.

You don't get there, You don't get the whold My feelings hostage and you probably she probably slept with someone else.

And didn't tell you.

Yep, show did, Yes, she did.

I've been in that very situation. I've been in the situation. Bro, we broken, we have broken up. So I'm just supposed to take that.

I'm just spoke. Just sit around while you go do your thing.

You out all in there you out mm hmm no.

Crazy game crazy.

Ask yourself this, why do you guys break up? Was it? Was it infidelity to begin with? Was it a lack of respect to begin with? Uh?

Is it?

Was it a family issue to begin with? It?

Boredom?

But yeah, you I mean you have to ask yourself, do you want to be with her? Or is it the thought of her? Those are two different things. Now, do you really want to be with her or is it the thought of her?

Or do you not?

You kept don't want to see somebody else with her?

Well, yeah, and you we've all been there. We've all been there somebody I.

Don't really I don't really want to be with you, but I'm apply a little pressure because I don't want to see nobody else. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember. Yeah, I had I had a day like I had a I had a time like that back in nineteen ninety three, I'll never forget. Yeah, old bon Cueisha, I wonder what she's doing on you, man, you're probably waiting on you. Well, Ship, that's all. He is too late now, he is too late to too.

Late now, you boy, I'm good, you good, Bridge.

Barry said, I plan on proposing to my girlfriend in the coming weeks. What are the chances I get unking Oho to attend the wedding? Shoot at my shot with you guys like I am with her much love.

Don't don't invite us. Just give me the address and let me crash it. Yo. Look, because me we're gonna come through and we're gonna sing cattle in the y mixer like they didn't Step Brothers. I'm ready, I'm performing. We're gonna perform.

Since they won't let us on YouTube, we can't sing here.

We're gonna sing adding Yeah you remember you remember Step? I remember Step Broo Boats and hose Catalina White.

Yeah, man, Ship, we're gonna be at that bitch turned out. Why are you like crashing people wed?

Because it don't feel the same when they invite you. It ain't the same when they invite you. When you show up, it feels so much better. When you just like just walking that bitch out of like you're not supposed to be there. Yeah, it just it hit different. Yeah, it hit different like that.

I don't know.

All I know is this, I'm trying to make it through the NBA season to the NBA Finals, and I'm gonna need me about six to eight weeks.

I'm going somewhere. I'm getting off the grid.

When you we're NBA the NBA Finals, probably like that Sunday, which would be around Father's Day. I mean what month? So that's June.

You a long way you go, You got along way go.

We ain't even hit the New year. Yay.

Ain't but one person gonna know where I'm at. He ain't gonna be able to tell nobody. That's the man of stairs. That the only person gonna know where I'm at. Heit Wait, hold on, who you going with? You're gonna by yourself?

Did I just tell you? Ain't nobody gonna know?

Yeah? I mean, I know, nobody gonna know where you're gonna be at, But I just want to know if it's gonna be a.

Plus one, you know, Big Daddy go tear it up, Big Daddy, go up and big Daddy will te it up.

That's all I won't say.

Oh show, that's all I got, but that I'm going somewhere.

I don't know. I might go to the.

Bottom, go live on the get on one of them more hunts, live on one of them huns on the water.

That's fine.

That's okay.

That's a long that's a long flight.

Okay.

And they said they got the more they got the curtains, riding the round, the riding the seats. Yeah, my come, and I ain't talking about Colorado over there?

Hey y'all about?

Yeah, you ain't like me, the old Josey.

You on nice?

And you know, oh shay, who who nice? I ain't nice? Nice? You see?

You an adventurous who ain't adventurous?

What you boy?

You forgot?

I touched it from north? You hold on nine you've forgotten. Now I touch it from north to south. Make you hit every corner of the wall. Now you hit every corner and Crevis, you're on your own. You got me there, now you got it?

You got me?

Just I just I'm I'm just reminding you. Maybe you forgot who I was? Yeah I did.

Yeah, don't forgive me. Don't forgive me history now uh yes.

Sir, chats.

The chat says they have an unk tracker like they do for and Taylor swell Plane.

They gonna know.

They ain't gonna know where I go with yo. They don't need it.

I'm ready.

I just, I just I just want to see you happy, man. I want to see your smile. I just I just want to like you know, when you when you when you have a puzzle, like all the pieces to your puzzle are perfect, it's almost together, but there's one there's one piece of that puzzle that really hasn't completed.

It's not complete that one piece. And that's that's the missus you need.

You need a missus in your life, man, you need a missus to complete everything is complete the journey, you know, and one that understands all you have going on and understands the sacrifices that you are making based on.

That's the thing.

Yeah, yeah, that, And I'm telling you that's what I'm trying to find you. But you won't listen, you hard head of your stubborn Sometimes I know, I know, I know you heard that before.

I ain't. This ain't the first. How do you identify your purpose? If I was your son? What would you tell me. I'm the first of my family to break many cycles. I need some guidance. I didn't tell my son anything. I allowed him to be what he wanted to be, because at the end of the day, that's his life. I've lived my life. You've heard me say it before. I didn't want anybody and I just told him. I told him. I was talking to my daughter today. Her and I had a very hard to heart moment today.

That was That was probably my greatest fear, because you know.

You know how you do something, oh Joe, and you're like, I only did I only came because you invited me. Oh I only did this, nah nah.

That's a yeah.

So in other words, you would have wasted twenty twenty five thirty years of your life doing something that you didn't want to do only to appease your dad.

Nah nah.

And so that's what I told my son. You know, people like your son didn't play sport. That wasn't what he wanted to do. That's what I wanted to do, That's what his uncle wanted to do. He wanted to go to school, get a degree. There are a lot of things. He wanted to be a pharmacies. He want to do something with medicine. He did that, and you know, he found his mate and he got married.

Yeah, gotta got my grandson and he's happy.

I think he's happier right now than had he done something that I wanted him to do.

Right So, I'm kind of I'm kind of the same way with my kids, obviously my son, with both of my sons, I would never forced the issue. I'm not one of those that tried to live vicariously through my kids. I'm I'm a support of dad and whatever it is that you want to do, you can do whatever you choose to do. You can do. Obviously, anything that puts

But whatever it may be, I'm all for it.

I would never force and I think you know, growing up when you have kids, you never want to force them to do something because when they get to an age where they can kind of be rebellious and then.

Not fight back literally but like say, you.

Know what, this ain't what I want to do. I don't want to do this because you force me to do it. They tend to resent that and they grow up hating whatever sport that is that you're forcing on them because maybe you were successful at it, or maybe because you want to force them to do it because you know you didn't take.

It, so you want to make sure they do live your life or your kid, anything, a partner I've never looked. I tell my kids all the time, if you like them, I love them. Hell, I ain't got to spend one night with them. You do, right, So if that's who makes you happy my son, Hey, don't you put your hand. Hey, you got a kid, nothing that's not your child. You don't discipline her, you talk to her, you treat her with respect. I tell her the same thing. That's my son.

You love it.

If you if you love him, I don't care. I don't care what he does this. Hey, don't you want you to do? I want my daughter to be happy. If she finds somebody that makes ten million, that makes her happy, I'm cool. She finds somebody that makes fifty thousand, as long as that fifty thousand can.

Support them, I'm good.

Yeah, Because at the end of the day, I want my daughter to be loved because I know I know they love my son. I want him to find somebody that loved him because I know he loves so all that other stuff. At the end of the day, if they find somebody that loves them. That's all I ask. Bring me some brave and give me some grandkids. You see, my son, my grandson got this. Look at it, that's what I got. That's a teacher that got papa. He

I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm ready for that.

I want to see what I want to I want to see what that.

Oh Magic already got it. Just let me just give me the way. Just let us get laid. Let me get like you the end of you know, let us get out. Let's get out of January, let's get out of the let's get out of the football thing. Let's get past the super bowls or like the middle of Mark in the middle of February March right, uh huh uh, I mean I'm in there like swimwear. You know what I mean. You see them girls in I g how that swimwear be fitting. That's how gonna be lodged up in there.

I'm I'm going, I'm going.

No, ain't know, you gotta say. I gotta see. I gotta I gotta see what the food hit like. And and I want to be I want to I want to use my peripheral vision as well. Okay, I want to see what the food look like. Oh but I want to use the peripheral vision as well. Stay they stay with me now.

Yeah, oh Joe, you know what the man push your glass up like that? Right now?

Do you put your glass up like that? Yeah, he's out something. I would get a jigger tiller, the pine camp Ish strips, the nuggets.

I'm gonna get magic magic City. That real nice. I can see. I can see it now, man, I can see it.

Going to the stage.

Coco.

Who oh, I bet she fans.

Hey Coch.

You know they card Dad, you know they got the card day the Barrari.

Yeah, yeah, what's up? Like? I like it? I like it.

I gotta I gotta practice throw them for ones. You throw your ones like this.

So you ain't been there so long. Man, it's been a while.

I got I got, I gotta practice. I gotta practice, you know, I know you gotta gotta. You gotta lick your your finger.

I mean, you don't hold your you know, I bad, you know, matter save up. I might have to make a hell on him. Throw some coin, you know it be hailing in the club to rain it.

Yeah, oh yeah, I can't compete.

I can't compete. I can't compete that. I probably get a hundred. I probably get a hundred dollars and ones, and I throw five dollars at the time and make it look like it's a lot.

But it ain't gonna You gotta you gotta go. We gotta go in there.

We gotta spend at least we gotta spend at least five between us five bands.

Man, Oh but I'm sorry, my bad almost you know, God forgive me almost backslid. Well, you said somebody, I gotta spend five bands.

Between us on five apiece.

Oh oh okay.

Okay, I could do that. If I could do that, I could do that.

I thought you were saying we gonna we gotta spend five piece.

You keep on tipping this zip it, come on, come on now.

Okay, okay, okay, okay.

I could do I can do twenty five. I could do I could do I can do that.

I can do that.

Ain't no pressure, ain't no pressure.

Yeah, because I could I could do, I could do twelve. I can do twelve five and get twelve. I got give me twelve fast. What what you called that tied?

You know?

Yeah? Yeah, I like that. I like God damn I know that thing would be nice too.

Coming to the stage.

Oh, Joe, you recently tweeted saying closed mouth, don't get fair shooting my shots again for photographing your wedding for free. I d M the missus the missus on I G and Twitter.

Yeah, Oh I'm I'm I'm in here. Didn't let her know she might be in the chat baby baby few and the yet well you know what, she ain't said nothing, so she probably ain't in here.

But i'ma let ask you before I take any more, question what you give. I don't control none of that you give for Christmas? Before I ask answer.

What you get? Stop man stopped playing? Listen? And what did I tell you when you asked me? What can she get that I would really like. What's the first thing I said. I think you said perfume cologne?

No, no, I do it every day.

I do every day. No that too. But what I spoke eyguard dang man, this woman brought me a brand new box of Daniel Marshall's cigars twenty four twenty four. Carry Yeah, twenty twenty four carried Goal cigars. Wow, box of them things. What else?

Man?

Got me some nice cologne, got me some nice cologne. My baby, my baby.

My daughter.

Got me a McDonald's gift card with a thousand dollars on there. Man, Yeah, yeah, man, Oh listen, I got the new McDonald's.

You've seen the McDonald's ugs.

You ain't see the McDonald I gotta get you, no, got come on, I got to get you to pay McDonald's hugs.

Like like that.

The women be wearing the bar not us cross. I'll go.

You know you know I'm old. You know I'm old. I be mixed.

I'll be mixing up the name of all the type of stuff. I make the name all types of stuff. But man, today today was beautiful. Today was beautiful. I really enjoyed it watching the faces many the faces of the kids when they light up. They obviously they older than now, you already know what you're getting. Just to see their faces light up like that. Man and French Fry watching French Fried don't know what the hell going on. She don't know what's going on, but she got her

You got to you gotta listening to that thing.

What you're doing.

Man, So next year, I'm sure she'll probably get the hang of it. But I thought that that's I like Christmas time.

Man.

My kids they don't really ask for nothing throughout the year. They don't really ask them just be small stuff. Be small stuff. And I remember I tweeted out one of my one of my daughter's lists, and people are like, oh my goodness, that's expensive. Listen, if you understood how well they're doing in school, how well they're doing in school, and when they out of school, just just the way they move and everything is. I don't want to take credit. I've done a good job. The moms have done a

So that's a good Elijah Ball told, Hey, unkin, O Joe, we recently had to put our beloved pet, Chocolate Lap down, and it's really hurting my family, especially my father. Our dog was it little was his little boy. How did you code with the passing of your dog? Appreciated?

Okay, don't you man, don't have me on here crying again like we.

Did last time you were talking about dogs. I ain't gonna low with you.

It's tough and you don't get over you just deal with it better with time.

You know, you you you get to deal with it.

But you spend so much time with them, and you know, the thing is with me, O Joe. I've always said, I mean, and I've seen people keep dogs alive or animals alive for themselves and not for the ani. The animals hurt it. He can't hear, she can't it can't tell you it's hurting. But it's hurting, you know, and so you know, but man, it's tough.

Bro.

It's gonna take you. It's gonna take you a while. It'll take you a while. You're gonna cry because you're gonna think about the time that you know how many times it met you at the door, and how excited it was to eat, and how excited it was you to pet you, for you to put it on his head. But as time passed, it gets a little easy for you to deal with it. You don't get over it.

Come over there and minister the uh the solution.

Yeah, man, it's it's it's not easy, but I understand that what you're going through. Elijah Daniel Kayley, Hey, unknot your What advice would you give to a man finding the right money woman to have kids with the right traits and a woman or motherly personality traits?

May Christmas bro That's something only you know.

Yep, that's it. You know. I'm mine.

I just I just look for athletic ability.

Can you run jump?

How high?

Let me see Gannkles if we go, you know what I like to do. But this is so funny with real when me and real first men, obviously, you know, the first date had to be something where I had to see if she had any type of athleticism, and she has a background being in the army, uh you know, being a paratrooper obviously knowing how to how to shoot a gun ready for war and all this training that she did. So so since you like that and you're supposed to be a shooter like that to the right,

Who gets who can win. She got you.

I need I need to see you operate under pressure, because they're they're going to come times in our relationship where they're gonna we're gonna be put in certain circumstances that are gonna be similar to that of.

Paintball. That was fun. That was fun.

How do you operate under pyro?

What a fan said, Oh can you give ash a former shout out? What's her name? She deserved public recognition from us the fans. If she cool with it?

She not?

She does not bad.

Look here anytime I'm taking a picture, I was like, hey, Jeorge, take this picture like what ash Man Ash Ash on the plane, Ash in the car, Ash your go to the bathroom.

You look here, if you if you see, you.

Not gonna know Ash with me, ashby walking like fifty steps ahead or twenty five steps behind. And you think she just like a passenger in the airport going so she does not want anything.

She's over here sitting of the chair. Last she's in the.

Chair laughing, ash Man. Ash does not want She is a She don't want any attention. She ain't getting. Oh oh look here. The first thing would Geordane take a picture? Did you get me? Did you did you get me? Jordan?

Let me see? Just like nah, they get you? Let me see she gonna get she gonna get you?

Or to cut that pitch out. She ain't get no picture of Ash bad. But Uh, she's amazing, She's she's unbelievable. She's an unbelievable hard worker. She's extremely dedicated. Uh she's here today, so is Jordan. You know they got a little time off. They didn't have to come as early as they normally do. Uh, you didn't have to come to the house, Ash, Oh my god, you did, Ash, you did.

But you sleep till you.

I ain't never seen nobody sleep like Ash. You You swear she's a child I'll tell my she sleeping. No, she could literally sleep fourteen hours a day. Fourteen hours a day. I mean, I'll call Ash sometime in the day.

She's like hello.

I'm like, Ash, is one thirty you knocked out?

She's like, how did you know I would sleep?

Ash?

Everybody can tell me, somebody what I woke you up? I was like, bro, like, dude, what's good? She's over.

I'm like, ain't no, Ain't that much sleep in the world. But uh, but no, She's She's unbelievable. She's unbelievable. A lot of the success that I've been able to enjoy, that we've been able to enjoy with night camp is that directly tied uh to Ash.

Uh.

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And then you know, I don't do the I don't I don't do the retro. I don't do the retro bumblebees.

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I don't man, If it ain't Jordan Ones, I don't know, man. What number is that? That's the four folk on phoning them flowing them.

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