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Shannon Sharpe and Chad Johnson discuss Deion Sanders receiving hate from Colorado State head coach, flying private vs Spirit, why the Dallas Cowboys could lose to Zach Wilson and the New York Jets, the Philadelphia Eagles beating the Minnesota Vikings on Thursday Night Football, and AJ Brown blowing up on Jalen Hurts.

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Speaker 1

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and we're back again to talk Thursday Night football. But Eagles take down a Viking thirty. The Eagles move to two and oh the Vikings go to zero and two. Take it away, Oh, Jo, what was your biggest takeaway from the game?

Speaker 2

The biggest takeaway from the game was obviously it started off really slow.

Speaker 3

It started very slow, very methodical.

Speaker 2

It was somewhat boring almost and really didn't really pick up for me and make and get me excited until after halftime. Take away the most. The Vikings gotta get going. The Vikings have to find a way to get going. They got to find a way to establish the run they got. They they already got away to get justin Jefferson going moving them around, put them in different positions to make the plays. They got to find a way to get the running game going and find a way

to get a lead. They not playing They're not playing well at all.

Speaker 1

But here's the thing, Oh Joe. Running is about is a mentality. You can't say if you run the ball twice, if we don't get in the yards, you can't say the hell with the run and just start pulling it all over the yard. And that's seemingly what Minnesota's done. But they got to take care of the football. That's seven turnovers in two games. In both games, they've had at least three turnovers in the first half. That's two and they should have had the lead at the half.

If Jefferson doesn't muff the football out of the end zone. They going into the half with the lead.

Speaker 3

That's a ridiculous rule too. That's that's a ridiculous rule.

Speaker 2

They need they need they need the Competition Committee in the offseason.

Speaker 3

They need to go they need to go out and get rid of that rule. This ridiculous.

Speaker 1

Okay, what would you have the rule be? They get the ball back at the two yard line.

Speaker 2

Exactly where he loses the ball. He gets it back right there. Just the touchback and turning the ball. That's to come on, man, come on now.

Speaker 1

That is ay, that's a very very harsh penalty for that.

Speaker 3

Most definitely, definitely.

Speaker 1

I mean I have anybody, I don't know, if there's a player that's lost it's close. But Kirk Cousins. You look at his numbers, he's thirty one or forty three, three sixty four four touchdowns. He has these these these empty calorie games that if you didn't watch the game and you just watched and you just look at the stats, you.

Speaker 3

Think he went crazy.

Speaker 1

Yes, but he he didn't play bad. But early when they needed him to make a few plays, he didn't. He had a bed costly turnover that led to seven points.

Speaker 3

Whoa, whoa that wait, wait, what's turnover? Not not the strip side, that's the left tackle fall. That's the left tackle fault.

Speaker 2

And then the commentator saying, oh, the left tackle dealing with an injury.

Speaker 3

Well, if you're didn't dealing with an.

Speaker 1

Injury and go get the game.

Speaker 3

Hey, he's suppoted to be out there because you just you cost of your team.

Speaker 1

Okay, but here's the thing, this is what this is what uh Mike Shannaher used to always tell us I coached. He says, Look, don't exacerbate the situation. Okay, the left tackle got whipped. Hold on to the ball just because he got will.

Speaker 3

That's the blind side. Now, that's the blind side. Kirk can't even Kirk can't even see buddy coming.

Speaker 1

Now, I understand that, but sometimes you gotta be up. Sometimes you just got to hold onto the ball. Yeah, I understand it's the blind side, But don't make a situation worse. He gets beat and then you turn the ball over the Vikings defense, that's terrible. Why you let Okay, we get the ball back. All we got to do is stop promote, Joe. We stopping were gonna get the ball back. Oh he d let's go, d let's go, and they run the ball down your throats.

Speaker 3

Listen. The most embarrassing thing for any NFL team to the all through is to run the ball up and down the field and push your push you around, and push you around.

Speaker 2

That's exactly what Deandres Swift and that almost the Lade did for the Eagles to night.

Speaker 3

It was ridiculous. Swift finished with.

Speaker 1

What five carries? They had forty eight rushers for two fifty nine five point four carry uh three touchdown. You know what's so embarrassing about the run game is because you're moving a man against his will. Let that stick in for people at home. You're moving the man against his will. He said, I'm saying you're finn move from this. At first he said no, I ain't. And I say that, you say you can here and Lane Johnson and Chelsea donned those getting Landon and Dixon, They got him up out of there.

Speaker 3

Why not make the adjustments? Why not make the adjustments defensively?

Speaker 2

If the running game for the Eagles is doing extremely well, Brian Flores, why not putting nine in the box.

Speaker 3

Why not take Harrison Harrison, bring him that and bring him down? They had.

Speaker 1

They needed to bring John Randall back, restless Little Dorman, they needed Chris Millar, they needed the Purple People eaters, they needed all of them to stop. You know, okay, we getting what we call a four minute offense because we don't want to give you the ball back. So basically we got a lot of too tight end. We're just gonna try to run the football. You know what we're gonna do. We know you know what we're gonna do.

Speaker 3

And you still can't still can't stop it.

Speaker 1

That's unacceptable, that's unacceptable.

Speaker 3

That's three myself, not in a whole. Now you're owing two.

Speaker 1

You're owing two. So that's the thing about being over because you gotta you can think about it now just to get the five hundred, you got to go to an oh a quarter of seasons go. Yeah, you put yourself behind the eight ball so much when you start the season like they started. But what do you expect. Do you expect to play in the NFL turn the ball over six times in two games before the half and win and they ain't had an opportunity to win.

Speaker 2

Listen, there are very few teams in the NFL back in turn the boat ball over and still come back and actually win a game. You can't turn the ball over and expect to win unless your offense is an extreme juggernaut and it ain't too many off of the team that's out there like that, especially when you turn them all over and the other team gets points off those turnoffs.

Speaker 1

Well, first and second of all, you can't turn the ball over like that if you're d fit crap. You give up two hundred and sixty yards on the ground. You can't stop them because they're scoring on their possessions. You turn it over. Put them on a short field if you can't when you kicked. You can't stop them when you kick the ball off and they got to go seventy five yards for a touchdown, How the hell you expect to stop them if you turn it over there on, we got to go twenty yards, right.

Speaker 2

You got to make your job easy as possible. You got to make your job easy as possible. They're not they're not doing that. They're not doing that at all.

Speaker 1

So if you're the head coach of the Vikings, what's your speech? What's your speech at the in the locker room.

Speaker 2

We put ourselves in the whole, gentlemen, we put ourselves in the hole, and we gotta find a way to dig it out.

Speaker 3

It's obviously a start with practice defense. You got to learn how to You got to learn how to tackle them.

Speaker 2

And then obviously I don't want I don't want to single anybody out, and I can't just put it all on floor.

Speaker 3

Florees is a defensive coordinator. He called in the defensive plays, but red regardless of what the exit and O is it called. The players got to excu you got the execue. You can't.

Speaker 1

You can't.

Speaker 3

You can't put it on the coach. If this is what he wants to run, we need to be able. We need to be able to stop and run whatever he's calling to the best of our ability.

Speaker 2

If you know the run is coming, you got to tackle, You got to wrap up. Ain't no reason. Deandresis forty running six yards of carry and this mad Madden? That this on Madden. You run for six yards of carry?

Speaker 1

They run and dive. Oh your hair is the thing when you look at it like this, what ski what I call they running the football? I know they're gonna run. You know they're gonna run. Everybody in the stadium knows they're gonna run the football. What the hell can I call? Get up your block, defeat the man, get it on the ground. Yeah yeah, I mean it's not like the past. Okay, they man, You see what they doing. They get into the bunch formation. They're doing a lot of motion. We

can if the past game, I get it. But when you run all they did, we just turn around and had deandrece with the ball.

Speaker 2

Nothing nothing pretty, nothing pretty. There was nothing pretty, nothing exotic. Hand the ball off. They tried to get aj Aj.

Speaker 3

Brown the ball.

Speaker 2

They wasn't able to get him going. Obviously, you're gonna have games like that.

Speaker 1

We talked about that. We're gonna talk. There was a heated discussion between aj and Jalen Hurst on the sideline. Take it that cause you've been in those situations your receiver. You want the ball, and you want the ball early because you want to be a part of the game. If you give Ojo the ball early, you'll have him late. Obviously, the frustration started the bill because I got two three catches.

Speaker 3

Listen, not only that, do you have two or three catches?

Speaker 2

But Devontae Smith is on the other side going off, He go and slap you know what, off and so A J. Brown is in here, I'm getting a slant or I'm catching a hitch, or I'm in the slot and I'm running a little stick route and I look up, I got three for I got three for thirty and Davonte Smith got.

Speaker 3

Four for one hundred and fifty. Hey that ain't that?

Speaker 1

Don't got four for thirty one? Tube?

Speaker 3

Hey, listen, don't that don't sit right with me? That don't sit right with me?

Speaker 2

And at times I understand how I understand how Aja feels. I understand, but it's gonna be games like that. Every game you ain't gonna go off. Every game is gonna be like now, what's gonna happen. What's probably gonna happen next time is when they come out, when they come out next week and they play guess who the first Guess who?

Speaker 3

The first three players might go to just to get him going, just to keep him happy.

Speaker 1

Right that he has to take that as a sign of respect. Yeah, they fear him and they respect him more than they do Divante currently. So they're gonna spend the coverage towards him.

Speaker 3

But one, one thing, one thing, this is what I hate. I hate for offen of the coordinators to do this.

Speaker 2

Obviously, off of the coordinators, they have a scheme, They have a scheme and the way they do things.

Speaker 3

I hate when.

Speaker 2

Off of the coordinators allow defensive teams to dictate what we as Eagles want to do.

Speaker 3

I hate that Justin Jefferson had eleven for one fifty nine a night.

Speaker 2

The creativity from the office of the coordinator to move Justin Jefferson around to make sure to make sure he was part of that offense was emactly even though they lost.

Speaker 3

They can do the same thing with aj Brown. There has to be some creativity outside of the scheme.

Speaker 1

But Ojo, when you run for two, you not finnh throw for three hundred and run for two sixty this late college.

Speaker 3

I mean, it can happen if you want to if you want to do that, it can happen.

Speaker 1

I bet you there hadn't been more than I bet you there hadn't been in one hundred and five year history. There haven't been a two hundred yard rush game and a three hundred yard pass give. I bet it hadn't happened more than ten times in the history. Do you understand what you said?

Speaker 3

Yeah? Yeah, I care.

Speaker 1

Do you think about how many carries you have to get to get the two hundred.

Speaker 3

Again, this is college.

Speaker 1

To get twenty yards.

Speaker 3

Yeah, Swift had what one seventy five a night on twenty.

Speaker 1

Eight they had two hundred and sixty two hundred and fifty nine yards on forty eight carries. The average you only get about somewhere between sixty two and sixty eight plays, right, So they had forty eight rush a temps and they had twenty three pass attempts, so they had seventy one. What're you gonna do with that? Hey, when you running the ball, think about it. Ojo, will you turn around and had the ball? The guy I used to turn around? I used to tell the defense, if y'all stop TV,

we'll throw the ball. But y'all now stopping it, we not.

Speaker 3

Gonna throw it to the ball.

Speaker 2

But you know again, but this is what I don't like, and this this is something that receivers have to deal with. If you're running the ball really well, don't abandon us. Don't abandon me out there.

Speaker 3

Allow me to still feel part of the game plan and a part of one of the reasons why we won.

Speaker 2

And that was probably part of the frustration that AJ Brown was feeling. I guarantee you, but again what I don't like? Okay, we're running the ball really well, were playing really well. Obviously the Vikings made a late comeback toward the third and four.

Speaker 3

I call it garbage time.

Speaker 1

Yeah, well he'll be calories, move him.

Speaker 3

Move him around, put him in positions to make plays. Do that. You're saying what they do with Justin Jefferson?

Speaker 1

I know Seed, you know what I'm hearing you say. I ain't never heard no receiver. I ain't never heard no a receiver. When they throwing the ball, you got one hundred and fifty TJ had one hundred A man get that ball to Corey. Let Corey feel some love. Why y'all want to whoa woa, whoa whoa, whoa whoa? You ever said that? Have you ever said actually when you had that too, when you had that two hundred

yard day, you had them back to back? How many times did you go to the sideline un tell the office the coordinated Let's let's talk about it.

Speaker 3

Let's talk about it.

Speaker 2

Let me give you that, let me give you let me give you a better understanding on why I was able to get that you under yard day or TV was able to have that one fifty yard day. Back in our day when we played, we was in the past happy offense. We played in the running area. Are you forgetting remember the era.

Speaker 3

I played in Jamal Lewis, Jerome Bettis, Corey Dillon.

Speaker 2

We ran the ball first and how were we able to at those yards? Because I was established the run, Thank you.

Speaker 1

I was established well before you.

Speaker 3

Whoa, whoa whoa. No, you wasn't when you came in the league ninety I came in the league in ninety three. What are you talking about, man?

Speaker 1

You ain't came in no league in no ninety three. You came to the NFL in ninety three.

Speaker 3

Yes, I'm.

Speaker 1

Stop it.

Speaker 3

Yeah, man, I was born in sixty eight.

Speaker 1

Don't do me like whatver whatever. But anyway, as I was saying, you ever go to the offensive court, you ever go to an offensive court and say, you know what, man, man, y'all make sure y'all get somebody running backs of love right then? No wide receiverever.

Speaker 3

This is but I hear what you're saying.

Speaker 2

But this is what you don't understand is the fact that we established the running.

Speaker 3

Game to open us up. It wasn't. Now it's the opposite way.

Speaker 1

Now, how do you get damaged running game? How your quarterback through for four hundred yards and you established a run? When where? How?

Speaker 2

Because they had to drop they had to drop a man in the back, because Rudy Johnson was going crazy, Cedric Benson was going crazy. Oh, Corey Diller was going crazy. Drop that man in the box. We're gonna kill you on the outside. Matter of fact, even if you did double team us, we're still gonna get busy.

Speaker 1

So what so, how would you how would you grade Jalen Hurts in this game? What? What grade would you give Hurts?

Speaker 3

I give Jen Hursts a B. I give a B a BA and that that's a good beat. They could they could have put they could have put the game away a little bit more, a little bit more.

Speaker 1

Yeah, it was bad. That bad. That was a bad interception. I don't know where it was going with the ball. I don't.

Speaker 3

I don't either, But I give him a beat. I give him.

Speaker 2

You're gonna make mistakes. You're gonna make mistakes. You know, as long as it wasn't, it's still costly because something like that can hurt you in the long run.

Speaker 3

Down the road.

Speaker 1

Right, let's let's jump here. I'm actually in Colorado nine in Denver, and we're going up the boulder obviously to talk to coach Prime and this team to have a big game tomorrow against n State rival Colorado State and J jay norval Uh. He said, I took my I took my hat off, and I took my glasses off. I said, when you when I talked the grown ups, I take my hat and my glasses off. That's what my mother taught me. Why is he worried about what another man's doing on his team?

Speaker 2

What does that have to do with the game they got to play? What does that have to do with the game they have to play coming up?

Speaker 1

Now?

Speaker 3

Why why would you give Dion his players that coaching.

Speaker 2

Staff bulletin board material and make things personal. You just saw what happened to Matt rule when they did it last week, and here you go again with the same riga moreau. As my grandma used to say. So now you've got to go out there and back that up, right? Why not why not praise Dion? Why do not I say, you know what what he's been able to do and come in and change his program in such a short amount of time.

Speaker 3

That is amazing. What he's been able to do is been awesome.

Speaker 2

It's been great. Dion has been Dion since day one. Have we not watched him in the NFL? Have we not watched him as a coach? Nothing about Dion has change. That is what I love about the most. He has remained his true, authentic self, not conforming to how I don't know.

Speaker 3

Maybe coaches in.

Speaker 2

College have some type of pack where we're all gonna conduct ourselves and act the same.

Speaker 3

Well and never know what to him?

Speaker 1

You know what it is, Ojo. I believe there are coaches behind the scenes that are envious and jealous of coach Saban or envious and jealous of Dabble or Kirby Smart, but they never verbalize it. You never hear them say these things publicly. There's a lot of envy, a lot of jealousy with coach Prime and the way he does it because it's unconventional, because of what he says, the way he talks, the way he conducts himself. But it

works for his team. The way coach saving practices at Alabama might not work for Dabble at Clemsond, or it might not work for somewhere, so for someone somewhere else. But why are you concerned? What is him taking his hat off? What is him taking his glasses off? What does that got to do with you? I have and raising his team and trying to rape bring bring in boys and when they lead their men. Let him do

it his way, You do it your way. But I think there's a lot of envy and a lot of jealousy and a lot of resentment publicly for coach Brian.

Speaker 3

But why please help me, help me understand why it shouldn't be. It shouldn't be as a coach, as a coach black coach?

Speaker 2

Is that and understanding how difficult it is for black coaches to get jobs.

Speaker 1

Get powered five jobs, absolute yes, and.

Speaker 2

Being in positions of power to lead men. But to come back and say, oh, when I do interviews, I take off my glasses in my hat because.

Speaker 1

That's your interview. You should do however you want to.

Speaker 3

What what did we talk about?

Speaker 1

I don't care if he have a cover and a straw hat on them. The way you conduct your business where you get interviews, the way you coach your team, that ain't got nothing to do with how I do business. Over here. I don't concern myself with you, but you know how it is. We concern ourselves, were always concerning ourselves with things that don't concern us.

Speaker 2

One of the things that I always learn is every time you focus on somebody else's plate, every time you focus on somebody's plate, somebody eating off of yours, and you're gonna see the results of what happened when you don't lock it on your own plate. When they play against them, buffs made it personal.

Speaker 1

If I was coached prying with knowing, knowing prime the way I do, I try to hang one hundred on them, I would, I would.

Speaker 3

Yeah, can't, you can't. You can't.

Speaker 2

You can't do that. Coaches have a coaches have a pack, and there's a certain line that you don't cross, like fail crossing, don't keep scoring, you don't keep I don't.

Speaker 3

I don't think it worked like that.

Speaker 1

I ate, you know, the I'm crossing the roof because he because here's the thing, there was no need for him to take a shot at time. There was no need for him to take a shot at time, none.

Speaker 3

No purpose, maybe did no purpose for his team for the sake of his team.

Speaker 1

That's why I'm trying to score one hundred.

Speaker 3

Get get fired up, Okay, I think, yeah, I would do it on purpose. Yeah, I got you, I got you.

Speaker 1

I hadn't talked to you Monday night. Aaron Rodgers goes down four plays into his jet tenure, and a lot has been said. You know, the turf, and and and and and what have you. When you when he first went down, what were your initial thoughts?

Speaker 2

I knew what it was based on his mannerisms, his body language. And then when you get and tackle the first time your foot went in the ground, Let your body go, Let your body go, limp, just fall, just relaxing.

Speaker 3

Why you fight that?

Speaker 2

You turn around and turn around again and still fighting as if you try to get up out of there for what you got?

Speaker 3

All that pressure pulling you down. And as soon as that, soon as the inflection, it's still popping. It got somebody to get weighed.

Speaker 2

Let your body go and go limp man, Aaron, you've been playing football for nineteen years, you know.

Speaker 3

Previously.

Speaker 2

I think maybe it was a play before, or maybe two plays prior. He was able to spin out of that the same way God came off edge. He's fun out of it. This time, it didn't work. You know, he got you just fall down, let it go.

Speaker 1

But you live to play another play oh Jo. But you know on a three step drop, you know bot tackles are trying to get the guy hands down because the ball is gonna come out quick. You know, you cannot whatever side you pick on the three step drop, you gotta stay that side you can't get. Because he started to come back and then try to go backside, you can you can't. You can't do that. So once he went right and they're covered more the way, I

feel bad. I feel bad for him for the simple fact that there was so much anticipation he had seen to have found new life. He wanted to be somewhere. And I tell people this all the time. My grandma used to always say, the loneliest place in the world is to be somewhere you're not wanted. He knew that he wasn't wanted in Green Bay, and so now he had found the home. They had welcomed him with open arms. He had the kind of cachet that he's always wanted in Green Bay. They had given him that in New

York and then four plays in it's over. That's it. That's a hard injury to overcome too, Ojo, especially at.

Speaker 3

Nine thirty nine four.

Speaker 1

I mean, you're right he about to be party.

Speaker 2

Yeah, you're right, but listen that that injury with technology would rehab and the things that they can do now these days.

Speaker 3

He'll be back in six months.

Speaker 2

And based on his Instagram post, he's letting the city of New York and the New York Jets know that he will be back next year.

Speaker 3

But I'm not even I'm not fred I'm not even a friend. You know why?

Speaker 2

Because I believe in Zach Wilson. I believe, and I like Zach Wilson. I love Zach Wilson. I love him to death. And matter of fact, you do, you do? You know why Aaron Rodgers in New York? Tell me why Aaron Rodgers was in New York?

Speaker 3

Can I can I say some police? Can I say something?

Speaker 1

Please?

Speaker 3

Zach Wilson.

Speaker 2

Let Zack Wilson had expectations come out of b YU right, as.

Speaker 3

Did the New York Jets. As did the New York Jets. Things didn't go the way he would want to. They didn't.

Speaker 2

You know how tough it is to go from b YU and dealing with the New York Media.

Speaker 3

Of all outlet. You got to deal with the pressure.

Speaker 2

One thing my grandma always said, you surround yourself by certain individuals.

Speaker 3

At some point you become one of them.

Speaker 2

How long how long has Zach Wilson been around Aaron Rodgers?

Speaker 3

How many months? About O T A so you're talking about Okay, so.

Speaker 2

He's been he's been riding for a little bit. I think enough is rubbed off on Zach Wilson, on Zack Wilson on how how to prepare, how to prepare, how to play the game at quarterback, how to be a better leader, just little nuances that we the public, the outside.

Speaker 3

Fans don't know about.

Speaker 2

I'm sure he's gonna be a much better quarterback than he was before because of him being by Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 3

I know, I know, tell you I know so, and you gonna see it when they play.

Speaker 1

Dallas bro bro Last year they were wearing the backup. You remember what happened in Philly. They started They built a monument to Nick Foles. Carson Winz was the starter. He had to see on his jersey. They built a montage, they built a shrine. They was wearing the backup quarterbacks Jersey. Oh, Joe, you trying to tell me all of a sudden, they believe in you.

Speaker 2

Listen, sometimes all the tape, sometimes all the take is surrounding yourself for the right person. I'm telling you, you think you think Zach don't feel bad about how things went last year. His expectations are higher than all of ours. He wanted to come in and be the best he can. It didn't happen, But I guarantee you. I guarantee you, Zach Wilson, prove everybody wrong. I guarantee you that, and start with the Cowboys on Sunday.

Speaker 1

I would ask you this, do you think the expect expectations for the Jets were hired last year or this year?

Speaker 3

Oh?

Speaker 2

They were hired this year obviously because Aaron Rodgerson and they got a number they got, They got a top five defense.

Speaker 1

Now think about what you just said. Do you do you know the number one cause of a relationship ending if uncommunicated expectations. He wants to go somewhere, But she didn't tell you uncommunicating. She has expectations, but she didn't communicate with that way that he wanted to do this. You didn't know, she didn't communicate that you wanted to do this, but you didn't tell her. Okay, now we got expectations. That's been communicated, right, How do you think

you're gonna have that pressure the first time? The first time he go out there and he have one of them Joe Joe Burrow. And I'm not saying I'm saying, have one of those Joe Burrow games. We throw for eighty two yards and the defense balling out and they lose seven to three.

Speaker 2

Then he just throw a interception the other night and he came right back and did what. He threw an interception, and he came right back and did what he answered.

Speaker 1

Are you yes, sir? That met you? I just one of them. One thing? How many times you thank the quarterback for the opposing team. Because Joshalla was the best player on the Jets, he happen to play for Buffalo.

Speaker 2

Listen, we can't Okay, We're gonna we can't. Josh Allen lost the game. Is that that's what we're gonna use. That's that's a part of football. That's a part of football. We can we can go through. We can go through every game on the on the one o'clock slate. This this coming Sunday and we can find well, you know why they lost. They lost because of so and so did it. That's a part of the game. That's a part of the game.

Speaker 1

The differences between Aaron Rodgers, Patrick Mahomes or Tom Brady in a paper.

Speaker 3

They throw interceptions.

Speaker 1

You expected to win. Now you've got Zach Wilson. You hope to win well if the defense, if the defense plays lights out, if we don't turn the ball over and an eagle land on the flag pole at twelve ten pm, we got a great chance to win it. There is no expect there's no I expect to win. There's all hope to win.

Speaker 2

Listen, like Chetick Danny Tanna said, I wish a motherfucker you know what a quarterback. A quarterback is only good as his supporting cast. You got Lizard, you got Cobb, you got probably top five right now in the league of young receivers up and coming.

Speaker 3

And Garrett Wilson you got a top five DP, you got a top five defense.

Speaker 2

All Zach Wilson has to do is facilitate and don't make mistakes.

Speaker 1

If he could do that, I hope you're right, because there are a lot of hope and anticipation and expectations. Man, do you know what what disappoints the person the most is when you have expectations. I met the woman of my dreams and she not what I thought she was. Oh Joe, I had expectations. I saw us with a piget fence and two point five kids and two cards expected. Yes, two and a half kids.

Speaker 3

Okay, okay, okay, that's.

Speaker 1

What I would expecting. I got these expectations and she wasn't what I thought she was.

Speaker 3

Do you know how bad that hurt?

Speaker 1

Oh Joe, we both before you got married, we both been in situation. You didn't care what she did, and she didn't care what you did. And when she found somebody else, you didn't give a d. But when you loved that person, you invest the time, you invested energy, and she did what she did. It hurt. So now there's the expectation and we talk, it's gonna hurt.

Speaker 3

Yeah, yeah. Oh, And you took me back. You took me back.

Speaker 1

I want to I didn't want to go there, but I want you to understand what I got you to a person's emotions, right.

Speaker 2

I got you and listen. Zach Wilson understands what's at the helm. He understands that he has a city. He has a city riding what I'm riding with him. I'm not sure how the city feels about it. But listen, Zach Wilson's after him right now.

Speaker 3

With all that he needs to support. That's it, Shannon. You're not giving Zach Wilson your support. I'm telling you his.

Speaker 2

Job is gonna be a little bit easier because of a supporting cast, and he gonna be all right because that damn defense.

Speaker 3

Oh my goodness. They the real deal, the real deal.

Speaker 1

Jordan Whitehead had three interceptions. He had a two hundred and fifty thousand dollars incentive clause in his contract. If he gets three interceptions, he gets a quarter of a meal. He's already done that the first game. Do you have a story where you have had incentives in your contract that you reached It were like, ooh, your boy just got fifty, your boy just got a hundred, or with the incentives in your contract that you like, I mean, I missed out on this money.

Speaker 2

I'm sure I had incentives in my contract. I know I did, obviously, because all contracts are incentive based at some point somewhere in the in the in the in the fine print. But I don't have a story. I'm not gonna see him make one up either. But I know I did. I can't remember off the top of my head. You got to bring that question to me next time. You got to bring that question to me, because I'm gonna go do my homework.

Speaker 3

I'm gonna go do my homework because I know I had some some.

Speaker 1

Some after well. I think see I was a self around draft pick, so absolutely I had incentives in my contract. I had incentives if I got if I got a thousand yards, I got one hundred thousand dollars. That was a night. That's one hundred thousand dollars back then was

a lot of money. I mean it still has a lot of money, but it was really a lot considering I was only making three hundred thousand, so hell, that was about to be a third of my So I needed one hundred and twenty one yards to get a thousand. Oh cho I had five catches for a buck sixteen to two touchdowns at the half and didn't catch another pass.

Speaker 3

They did that on purpose.

Speaker 1

I don't know what they did.

Speaker 3

Know they did that on purpose.

Speaker 2

Because I've heard the stories of running backs needing a certain number of carries, needing a certain number of yards towards the end of the season so they can hit it in the centive. Oh and the team decided to make a business decision. Yeah, I've heard the horror story. It's happened many a time.

Speaker 3

Now.

Speaker 2

One of the incentives I can think about it had nothing to do with playtime. Just all I can remember off the top of my head was the all season program. The all season program.

Speaker 3

You know you ain't go to that. Hell now, austinon program.

Speaker 2

You know you get you get three in the fifty grand to attend aston program?

Speaker 3

Yeah, yeah, get ninety percent. And that's only what I can remember.

Speaker 2

But I'm sure I had something for touchdowns and catches and stuff like that.

Speaker 1

But I took incentive out of my contract after that point because somebody else could control it. Because the way I look at it, I feel I was the best at my position. Shouldn't I go to the Pro Bowl? Right? I don't need to be a center, should not be All Pro, should not lead the team, and catching, should not lead the team. And touchdowns I'm that dude, right right, I don't need you to incentiviize that I am. I'm here, I'm who I said I was. See.

Speaker 3

I know they do play games with it though.

Speaker 2

They play games with Oh, they play games, especially when it's time to hit those incentives. Man, they they keep track of all that stuff, especially if you're running back. If you're running back, they're gonna they're gonna play with you. They gonna play with you everything.

Speaker 1

But you try to do you lobby You should be a lobbyist in DC, because boy, you lobbying hard for the running back to get their paper.

Speaker 3

Oh yeah, they need to, they need to. I'm not sure. Listen, the league.

Speaker 2

I understand the league is in a place now where they don't value the running back position as much as they should. But again, at some point they're they're running backs out there that are special.

Speaker 3

If you special, if you special, Sa Kwan, Alvima Kamara, CMC Derrick Henry Nick Chubb.

Speaker 2

Yeah, what I saw what I saw from DeAndre shift Knight where they ain't even use him in the past game Swift the lineup in the slots, slip Swift the lineup like Le'Veon Bell Shulde with the Steelers way out there running slants and stuff like that. They should be hitting double figures, ten, fifteen, twenty million deal contracts. Those are the type of money they should be getting when you're special.

Speaker 1

Do you know what I'm saying? Just the way I look at it, I don't care if you don't give me but ten dollars, but I want all my teen because I don't like that. Because here's the thing I don't like it. Now if I if I I don't perform, you released me and say you're making a business decision. I signed a contract. I performed the contract. I say I want to raise you've been with I signed the contract. What so do you think about Dad Bryant when they have they released dead? Dad had two years left. So

it's like the only business that matter. And that's why I tell guys, man, don't y'all give them no discount, because not one time have you heard the NFL give these networks a discount from broadcasting live events. But they you they want a millionaire to give a billionaire a discount.

Speaker 3

Right, oh home hometown discount?

Speaker 1

Where they do that at You ain't from my hometown. I don't know not one owner from Glennville, and ain't none of them got no last name, Porter or shark r related. Man.

Speaker 3

It's it's it's it's a tough business.

Speaker 2

I think as fans, fans sometimes they get upset at the players for fighting for their money and the fact that the fact that we have to fight for fight, that we have to fight by money.

Speaker 3

I think you are you surprised?

Speaker 1

Are you surprised? How the how the billionaires have convinced the fans that they that the fans have more in car coming with billionaires than they do the players with your millionaires. Because here's the thing, this is what the owners know. This was a little bit before your time, but I remember it because I'm older. I'm a lot

older than you. In eighty two and eighty seven, they struck and they put and I won't I won't be disrespectful to the players because some of the players ended up making rosters, but the replacement players and guess what happened. The fans showed up like they was like they was John Elway and Jim Kelly and Dan Marino. So they miss a b right and the owner says, oh so redly,

So we ain't gonna do nothing. We ain't gonna get your own game he contracts, we're not gonna give you on the last time heal's benefits because we can put somebody out there and replace you guys, and the product goes on. And guess what these broadcasters and they're gonna average, they're gonna put They're gonna put it on because people love live events. Fans.

Speaker 3

Yeah, but that wouldn't work today.

Speaker 1

Yes, it wouldn't work today, Oh Joe.

Speaker 3

Why the product on the field right now?

Speaker 2

If you take let's say all fifteen sixteen hundred players say you know what, Okay, we ain't playing, and the owner said, okay, we're gonna.

Speaker 3

Get people to replace y'all. The product on the field ain't gonna be the same.

Speaker 1

It won't be saying. But guess what. The fans gonna still show up because they love football. They struck in eighty seven, they struckted eighty two, and guess what happened a lot of those players. I ain't gonna name the names, but you go back and look it up. I want you to do your homework and look it up and look at those big names that cross that picket line,

and guess what happens. So if you get four or five six of those big name guys crossing what the guy that with in the fifth round of the sixth round or an undrafted free agent if you got guy that got MVP. The dp O wives come across the pigure line. What you think they gonna do? Oyo? They coming to right because them owners know see the banks say, okay, Jerry, hey, I want to push that thirty million dollar loan payment down. I got, I want to push you till next year.

Go tell your bank you better give them their money or you better get up out that house in three months. And the private school that you sending your kids to, you're gonna have to be a public school until you make them payments.

Speaker 3

Right right, right right, And the owners know that. Yeah, it's a dirty game, man, it is. It's a dirty game when you when you go beneath the surface and you start peeling back them layers. It's that dirty game.

Speaker 1

But oh Joe, that's why I tell the guys, don't mess your money up. You gonna this thing. You're gonna wake up one morning and it's gonna be over.

Speaker 3

It's a racket.

Speaker 1

I got every dime that Denver and the Raven was supposed to give me. They took not one dime for me for mentional meeting, being late, doing nothing. I will get all my I will every die that I'm supposed to get.

Speaker 3

I like that.

Speaker 1

I like that.

Speaker 2

Well, I got a question. You talk about every diamond. I'm getting off the subject of we're talking football, we're talking sports for this stuff.

Speaker 1

We talk anything, we won't just our show.

Speaker 3

Listen, I've seen you, I've seen you. Find you flying private? You know how much it costs a fly private man?

Speaker 1

Yeah? Do you know? Yeah?

Speaker 3

I know, I know how hard you work. I know how hard. But come on, let me fly with me somewhere. Let me fly with me on spirit real quick eighteen E.

Speaker 1

Let me ask you a question. O yo, I'm sure. Unfortunately, there have been some people that passed in your family. You're going to you know, homegoing.

Speaker 3

Services Mama and grandma? Yeah, yeah, was.

Speaker 1

There a breaks truck in any part of that procession? Now? Were there a U haul in any of that procession? So she ain't nobody took nothing with them. M Now you leave everything what you think your kid is gonna do you think your kids gonna be as frugal and it's frifty and as miserly as you now you made up you made all that money. Now you that you I would hope so because Hope see that you you see what you said?

Speaker 3

You hope you said. Listen, let me tell you that's a few.

Speaker 1

That's a female's name I don't know nothing about than Hope. I went to school with a girl named Hope Perkins.

Speaker 2

Listen, Shannon, what percentage of us go broke two years after we finished planning?

Speaker 1

What percentage that's? That's if you, oh, probably like eighty seven percent.

Speaker 3

If I'm not eighty seven percent of us go broke after we're done playing.

Speaker 1

Yes, but see that's when you got you got three houses full cars, and you got both people on college funds. That's not your key. You know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 2

I know what you're talking about. But even still, I got four eleven kids. I'm still doing well, very well. Yeah, for sure, very very very well, twelve eleven kids removed from the game of football.

Speaker 1

You know what I eat. I eat a certain way, but I treat myself occasionally. I'll eat some cookies, I have some chicken, I have a burger. So if I want to work as hard as I've been working, say you know what I'm gonna go. I wasn't gonna be able to make the game on time, right, I promised time. When I came out here and interviewed him in December, I say, I'll be here for your first game, Yes, sir see. I don't make promises, because promises are like

pot crust thing and easily broken. I make commitments. I committed to that man that I was gonna come see his first own game. Right, I'm coming. I'm coming.

Speaker 3

I don't mean to be in your personal business.

Speaker 2

I just in case, in case for me, if I want to say, I want to dibble in mustache and I want to, you know, take the kids somewhere, ravaget, you know, we go on vacation or something.

Speaker 3

What what what's that gonna run me by? How much? What's that gonna run?

Speaker 1

It all depends. It all depends on how big the jet is and how far you going.

Speaker 3

Okay, let's see, I need a big one because.

Speaker 1

You know, right, so you want you want a G you want a G five, G six. So you're talking about fifteen twenty thousand hour whoa.

Speaker 2

Whoa whoaa rewind fifteen to twenty thousand an hour hour?

Speaker 1

Yeah?

Speaker 2

Oh nah, man, shit oh my bad, bad, No man, fifteen twenty thousand an hour.

Speaker 3

So if I got out of l A and l A is that's a father five, I say forty. I gotta pay fifty.

Speaker 1

Grand more than that, yeah, more than that problem.

Speaker 3

Come on, man, come stop playing man, listen, listen. I fly. I have to do. I have to work.

Speaker 2

I have to work and fly and travel. Every Monday, I gotta go to Jersey. Right, you gotta go to Jersey. Quit right down the street.

Speaker 3

Two hour, will fly.

Speaker 2

I get Spirit Airlines ticket eighty dollars round trip. I get from point A to point B just as fast, just as quick as you.

Speaker 3

You and you you in Colord.

Speaker 1

But you know what I need?

Speaker 3

It is you get that get the extra role, You get the.

Speaker 1

You ain't had no baying. You saw your boy laying down eating breakfast and breakfast and at thirty thousand.

Speaker 3

Hey, but listen, listen. Let me tell you what I can do.

Speaker 2

I can stop at the drive through and get breakfast before I get on that flight. No, and sleep at thirty thousand, oh Joe, sleep.

Speaker 1

Look, I'm not I'm not wasteful. I'm not wasting I'm not waitful with my money. O yo Okay, I got I got two repaired hips. I got two artificial hips. Wait, artificial eye suck. Yeah, I got my heal both my heills replaced.

Speaker 3

Wait one question, one question? Both your hip replaced. I messed up. Did you eat health? Did you eat healthy while you was playing?

Speaker 1

Man? Did? We're not doing.

Speaker 3

I'm just I'm just I'm just asking. I'm just asking when you when when you was in the NFL, did you eat healthy while you were playing? I'm just asking a question.

Speaker 1

Yes, okay, okay, all right, all right.

Speaker 3

I'm not saying it had anything to do with your h replacements. I'm just asking if you ate healthy or not. But okay, go ahead.

Speaker 1

I mean, so what you're what you're trying to say, what you're trying to get?

Speaker 3

I was just trying to say. I was just trying to say. I played. I played for a long time. I played.

Speaker 1

You did you didn't play long with me? You didn't play long with me?

Speaker 3

I played long. I played.

Speaker 2

I played twelve. I played twelve twelve, I played twelve with no injuries, not one. Well I'm messed up.

Speaker 3

My pinky. Look at my pinky. I can't even I can't look I play.

Speaker 1

I got fourteen for a team.

Speaker 3

But you know what, you ain't playing the trenches like I did, though.

Speaker 1

You better stop. I was a tighty year you you ever been on one special team?

Speaker 3

Who?

Speaker 2

I played special teams until my fourth year of the league. What you're talking about?

Speaker 3

I was.

Speaker 1

A gunner, So was I? And I was an L three on the kickoff kick return. I was in the punt punt return.

Speaker 3

I was. I was a kicker. I was a backup kicker.

Speaker 2

What you're saying, you ain't only you ain't the only special team dude, like I do it all?

Speaker 1

Did you did you see what? Did you see what that pointer did in Buffalo? Did you see what he did? Exactly? So when you say you will you say you was a kicker. I don't play that.

Speaker 2

No, chens don't do that. Don't do that because I played safety. I played safety in high school. Don't do that.

Speaker 1

Don't do that, my goodness, don't everybody played. Everybody with played both sides of the football.

Speaker 2

This is a funny thing some a lot of people don't know. This is something a lot of people don't know, and I want to share the story. Obviously, I went to Oregon State. I played with TEJ who's Mazzada as a receiver my quarterback? When Jonathan Smith, who now is the head coach of Oregon State. The funny thing is I was supposed to be a defensive back going into the draft, I was supposed to be a defensive back. I went to Oregon State play DV. Listen to me, let me finish.

Speaker 3

Listen.

Speaker 2

I'll lie for you before I lie to you. But I get drafted by the Bengals. I tell mister Brown, Mister Brown, I really don't want to play receiver.

Speaker 3

I want.

Speaker 2

My dream is to always be an NFL DV because I want to be like Prime. I want to be like Prime. But the DV room was too crowded. The DV room was too crowded, and they moved me to receiver. You ain't even know.

Speaker 1

That, Oh Joe, you won't hit nobody. You won't.

Speaker 3

I won't. They said the same thing about Prime.

Speaker 2

They said the same thing about Prime, and he gonna hit nobody, He's gonna hear.

Speaker 3

But one thing about it, why I locked down one side of the field. Huh?

Speaker 1

Why does everybody when they talk about they go to the highest man. I was like Prime, or I was like Lebron or I was like King Griffy. Why y'all just can't go to a marginal player.

Speaker 3

Because I'm not nothing about me marginal, nothing about me, marginal, only margin. I know it's butter. I ain't the one and I'm not the two. I'm just telling you. Look at my check my check my resume, check my status. In high school, I had, I had, I had. I had twenty two picks one year. Nobody ever done that before in South Florida, Dade County. Legend. Man, I'm from literally city.

Speaker 1

You had twenty two Fantasy picks. That's what you had. Never that, Never that, Oh Joe, you play? You were a wide receiver? You were? I had it.

Speaker 2

I was a defensive back at first. I was forced to move to wide receivers. What I'm trying to tell you I was a better.

Speaker 1

Defensive What forced you to move there is because you wouldn't hit anybody.

Speaker 2

No, that is not what It was the fact that the DV room with the Bengals it was too crowded.

Speaker 1

It was you didn't play dB at Oregon State.

Speaker 3

Yes I did. I played both waves. I w was Travis Hunter before Travis Hunter? What did you talk about? I was Dion, I did all that, man, I wint that.

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah Warwick. No, you were saying.

Speaker 3

Beyond who he man Hey at Liberty City listen, Liberty City Optimists. I play both ways. I play receiver, I play dB. I played quarterback and I play center.

Speaker 1

I did it all, lead it genlemen, thank you for tuning in to another episode of nightcap Unk. Shannon Sharp, He's Chad Ocho Cinko Johnson. Tune in again. We'll check you out Sunday night and Monday. Monday we got a double head of oho. But Sunday night we're back in action again. Thank you. We're out.

Speaker 3

Call me if you need me.

Speaker 1

Don't call him if you need a dB, because he can do you no good

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