Nightcap Hour 2: Thunder GO UP 3-0 on Suns + Browns Draft ANOTHER QB + Todd Monken DODGES Shedeur QUESTION

SGA scores forty a as the Thunder beat the Suns one twenty one to one O nine to take a commanding three old lead. Remember we talked about this last night. No team has overcome a three A three old deficit. The teams are ozer and one fifty nine. Shay was fifteen of eighteen eleven of twelve from the free throw line. Uh, he got fifteen from a Jay Mitchell who filled in feeling there for Jalen. Uh, Jayleen Williams chet gave it ten and seven, but they got at thirteen off the

Uh, they just they they just stopped. Man. I mean, Jayleen Brooks is playing out of his damn mind.

Yeah, Jalen Green's playing out of his damn mind.

But they a hey, they just ain't got enough fire. They got enough horses.

Not only do they have not enough horses. That goddamn SGA special on he's special. Hey, Joe, listen, the goddamn Sons wasn't even playing bad defense. But young Bull is able to do any and everything he wants to Joe, he get into a spot. He not even shooting from the goddamn three. He shot from the three, he was one for three from three. But I'm saying being able to put the ball on the floor picks. I mean, it doesn't matter what it is mid range, getting to

Jayalen Johnson's not on that type of team.

It ain't even that he ain't on that type of team. He ain't got that mentality. Bingo Shay has the mentality. Oh Joe, I'm gonna kill you. Give a damn who you put on me. It could be Green Boy.

All.

Y'all finna get this work tonight. Y'all can take turns if y'all want to, But I'm handing them out. I'm handing them out. Listen, Man, I watched the game. I'm like, you know, I know they ain't got the forward Jayalen Williams, but I'm like, Phoenix got a chance. That's all I was thinking for the game started. But then I'm like, man, Shaye just on a whole nother level. Bro, he on another level. Like they holler about all man, he fouled

And he know it. Bro.

It's a difference when you watch a guy and you see the confidence just oozing out of him when he gets the ball, like his swag different, you know what I mean, Like when he get it, he has a he had that, he had that look in his eye like yeah, I'm finna get his work. And that's what That's what I enjoy watching the most.

And you know what's funny too, when you think about it, you think about, this is the one percent in the world in the NBA. You know, whether whether it's the point guard with his shooting guard, whether it's a three four orto goddamn five, the one thing that searb severarates everybody else at a pacific position. Is not just your skill set, but this this right here, man, this right here, the belief that I can do it, the belief that

Yeah.

He Joe was right here, Joe, You're.

Not finna tell me and said, Ega is great. You're not gonna tell me he's EON's that much better than the next motherfucker.

Nah, he it's here.

It's his confidence, bro, And he know. I mean when obviously, if you win the MVP of a league, approach league, bro, that's gonna give you a whole nother sense of confidence. Like, I don't care what no damn body say. For sure, I think whether he I don't think he would ever come out and say it. You know, he's a very humble kid, but he's confident. At the same time, he knows that he's top two three guys in this league. And I ain't talking about two or three. You feel me.

Play, yeah, absolutely yeah.

And you see how every time they get the ball, it's like it's like it's like I don't.

Even know you at my mercy, and you can't do anything about it. I'm talking about me. I can do whatever I want to do to you, and you can't stop me.

It's like they try to double him, you can't double him because he's gonna slither out of that. And then he got guys, he got guys who can shoot, who could play make it if he had to pass it to him, So it's hard to double him. And then and boy, when you're talking about Garden, their whole team, bro, I'm talking about all the guards. They sit in a carew so willless Shaye, Uncle. I know y'all see him out there. And what's a little left handed dude name come off the bench? Mitchell?

Mitchell J. Mitchell. He started to do Oh did he Yeah? He started the.

Hey and the band got Hey. He got up twenty shots. He shot more than that Hick. You're right, you're probably put him aside.

You're right, right, he went five to twenty, but he made he made some timely buckets.

I like him, Bro, I like him.

Because it's rare that you get guys who come off the bench and you put him in a starting role and they had that confidence to be able to come out and take twenty shots. You feel what I'm saying, Yes, Hey, I think they coach have a hell of a system. That's a plug and play system. And it seemed like every time a guy come off that bench, no matter who it is, Bro, they getting to it. They get to it. You're right, And that's the and that's the thing.

You don't want to let the next guy down because you know the next guy is playing his ass off for you, so you can't do anything but play your ass off for him. As you said, Joe, they're very well coached. They're disciplined team. They play. Watch them how when they do interviews, watch them how they're on the court and sincerely.

Like being around each other. Hey, I'm gonna tell y'all what else I like too. If they meet the Lakers in the next round, which I think I think we all think that's gonna happen.

Mm hm.

With no Jalen Williams, Lakers may have a they may have a slight chance.

I think they can win a game.

Joe, I just don't think they have enough horses, because you can't go see the thing, the problem that you're run into when you play the Lakers. If you watch the Lakers, watch the third quarter. No matter how big a lead they have, teams are able to carve into it.

Yeah.

You can't do that with this team because if you if they got a lead on you and you come out light in the third quarter, a five to six point lead, all of a sudden, your first time out, you down twenty.

Yeah, the game's over. They're just blowing the game over, just like that.

Hey, Hey, Joe, you said the Lakers have a chance.

I think without Jalen, I say they got a chance to make it a good series. Okay, Yeah, I don't know if they can beat him, but I'm saying I think you know if the Lakers is able to get back a R. I think they got a chance to make this decision.

Not with Aydon playing with other mints and they ain't gonna be able to beat him.

Hey, hey, we can talk about a No they want to, but the Lakers got a They gotta keep patting him on his back because they gonna need him.

They gonna need him. But you know what, they packed him on his back, but you know what they want to do, put foot in his ass. Hey, you know it's a small from going to a path to a kick.

Yeah, you watched it, Joe, you saw you saw what he did last night?

I did, I did, I did, and like, yeah, come on, bro.

Hey, and playing against Okac, boy, they gonna they gonna need him to be a totally different player.

But your your mindset got to be completely different then the people you're playing.

Hey, man, that boy special man. I'm talking about shit.

He Hey, you know, if you think about it, Joe, Guys, when they're end this mode, they'll have a four or five six year stretch where he plays.

Just like this.

Yeah, you look at Yoki from the time he won that first MVPE to where it is now. You look at Lebron. Now, some guys can extend it. You look at Jordan and Lebron and guys you know Steph, they extended it. But he A, I wouldn't be surprised for the next three years if she still averaged thirty points a game, shot fifty percent from the floor.

Oh yeah, hold on, unc, why you why are you limited that three? Especially if he stays injury free.

No, I'm saying I see, I see at least another at least Okay, okay, okay, okay.

Yeah, I cause I can see the impressive thing. It is not the thirty it's the percentage in which he's shooting the third shooting.

Yeah, yeah, I mean, Bro, five for eighteen from the field, forty two points, Uncle ojo, it ain't any guys, huh, fifteen for eighteen, My bad.

It ain't many guys who've who've played like this. Bro.

No, like you know, we we haven't seen guys go forty two. But now no, damn fifteen for eighteen.

Dam he on that Bron when he played Boston, that series that he dragged as he dragged the Cavaliers, that game seven, that game six, Uh, when he played Indiana, when he played Toronto.

Yeah, I mean he got it going like that. What you're gonna do? Man, we threw.

Everything at you. I'm like every time, hey, hey, we shoot all our bullies. We got thirty shots, we shoot them all. At some point I throw the gun at it. Then at that point in time, Joe Ocha, I just take off running.

Yeah.

I mean even when you look at it, hell, between him and Mitchell, they don't want They seem like they took all the shots they did.

Chick was in foul trouble a lot of the time.

But I'm like, damn, I thought Phoenix had a hell of a chance to win.

I mean, Green and Brooks played well. I'm like Joe.

They had a lead twenty four fifteen and the next thing you know, it's thirty three, twenty four.

And it was never the same true champion. Man. They them dudes have been through a lot.

They didn't been through some real wars man, And hey, I enjoy watching OKC play.

Man.

I ain't gonna lie to y'all. You know the way guys step in even when let's say you got guys bro who go three four games, don't you touch the floor. Yep, But soon coach odaz and he's like, all right, now, you know what I mean? Like, that's impressive, bro, that's that's that's called being a real professional, and not a lot of guys can do that.

But hey, Joe Booker hasn't been playing well now, Yeah, ain't nowhere a round. It ain't no where righting Because we give him credit and a lot of guys have come and a lot of guys have gone. He's the he's been the remaining constant. We got to hold him to a standard. If he's your best player, he's the he's a star because I don't think I don't think, you know, we use that word to superstar a little bit too loose, Yeah, a little bit too loosely. They're

What? What? What? I'm what am I doing? Now? Hey, I'm giving.

Yeah, he had thirty three to night though, uh no.

No, thirty three what he paid thirty nine minutes? He had sixteen points, took him sixteen.

I'm looking at I'm looking I'm looking at Dylan crazy.

But hey, but but you know, you know why though, Okay, he got that dog on him over there, Lorry.

Hey, hey, Joe, we can't use that.

How many times how many times did Jeordan, Kobe bron kds held hello the team best play?

Hold on?

You just said it ain't but a couple of them. You just said it ain't but a couple of them.

But they make it seem like that hold on you, Macon, seem like they put Alvid robertson the Kobe Bryant, Michael Jordan, lou Daughter the damn good defender.

But damn hey, how tall is lou door?

He about six three and the Joe six?

No, he's about six four six five. Yeah, that boy built like a middle line back out there, I know.

Yeah, Hey, he gave me giving. You're giving young bull hair out there trying to get Ryannie.

Well that I mean he would look he went the Arizona State. Uh so he probably feels like he at home.

You know.

I just feel like, yeah, I feel like, uh he a hell of a defender, bro.

He bust through them screens. He makes tough on you.

He ain't gonna let hey listen, let me tell you it's a good defender. That the best way to defend the candidates and not let him catch the ball. Why y'all think Brooks and Green got off the night because hell we hey, we won't give it. Damn about them getting out. We gonna hold you. We know you you you capable of scoring forty to fifty points. We can't give it. We can't get it to the little sixteen points you got tonight. Boy, you're gonna have to work hardest hell to get that.

But even even those, But think about it, Joe, even when you don't have Dork, you come with Caruso and then you come with Wallace. So it ain't like he getting no break, right, So hey, they like, oh yeah, Lou check it out.

Here come Caruso, Here come Case and Wallace.

So but like you said, those thirty three from Brooks and that twenty six from Jalen Green can't beat that team, no, no.

Now, he and they would out their second best player, okase Is, and they still come up in your house.

And do that.

Hey, how long do you think he out? Joe?

It was this oh out for a minute, that's happen. That's hamstring.

They're gonnay're gonna they're gonna err on the side of caution, because all things being equal, I'd rather have him for the I rather have him for the NBA.

Final, excuse me, the Western Conference finals.

If we back the or at least in the.

NBA Finals, I can't.

I can't run the risk of of having him out because look, I think, all things being equal, I think Boston has probably come out of the East.

Now.

Anything can happen. The Knicks could bounce back, and and and but it's gonna be your team right now, especially if Winby doesn't come back.

I don't see nobody beating Okay, see, I just don't.

Man, when you think about it, it's gonna be the healthiest team.

Bro.

Whos gonna be the healthy team when it comes down to who makes it to the Eastern Conference Final, Western Conference Finals, and then who ultimately makes it to the finals. Man, if you hobbling in the finals, bro, it's gonna be tough. Man, It's gonna be tough. Bro, It's gonna be tough.

Mm hmm.

And but no, he looked good. I mean he was he was his own one. Now he was on two or three. Shit, he wasn't playing tonight.

I was like, damn, y'all, y'all gonna like y'all ain't gonna do nothing. And the man scored. He looked up and the like, man, they got this dude on, like he can stop me. Man, y'all was playing in my face.

Hey, hey, hey, and you know, and you know what it's like when you know a guy kind of knows your game because they play on the same national team together, you know, so you be you kind of comfortable because you got a familiarity to his game. Man, that shit don't mean nothing to shame. He out there like, look, Dylan, I like you. I like I like how you but uh look yeah, he looking over the at his teammates, like, come on, y'all see its right him.

He's probably saying, you know what, if you want my countryman, I want to drop fifty. I mean, the forty two is one thing, but a fifty piece in the playoffs that takes you get to a whole new level.

So you better be glad.

I ain't hit you with the fifty, But if you keep talking crazy, I give you one of them next day.

I give you one of them in game four. In game four.

Yeah, it's one thing about it when it comes to the great players regards of sports you play. You can watch as much film as you want to. You can study it, you can know the game. You can play on the same team with them, like you say, Dylan Brooks and God damn SGA play together and you can know his game. But when it comes time to play for real, some people you just don't have an answer for no matter what.

No, hey, I'll tell you what, Phoenix better come out with a better game plan. If I'm Phoenix, I might even throw that double SGA.

Do he gonna get up out of that anyway?

Well, well, damn Ojo, I'm gonna do that.

Versus just let him size me up the whole game and a damn do what he won't, you know, have me at his mercy, you know what I mean?

It's like.

He too good for you to sit there and play and with one defender, you know what I mean? You I mean, yeah, I know these other dudes around him can make shots, but I make him make shots. Our rotations gotta be on point, bro, You got you gonna have to show me you feel me, right? Yeah, you gotta. Hey, we gotta have these rotations on point. But we just can't let this dude out here just go forty and fifty.

Do you believe there's another guy on their roster currently right now that could go get for forty points.

But okay, see yes.

Naha, okay, out of his hand and make somebody else go get it.

Forty points at that that efficient.

I don't give it down. You gotta be that efficient.

I mean, ain't a handful of guys in the NBA currently can get that kind of number on that kind of official So no, I'm just saying period.

But hey, they bench good though.

I mean, you know, you only had one guy in double figures off the bench, and that was Caruso. But the mother guy's pitching in six, seven, eight points like those big points.

You feel me like they got a lot of guys from points. Yeah, the other team got twelve. Yeah.

When these dudes come in, boy, hey they ain't. They ain't gun shot now.

No no, no, no, no, no letter rip Joe.

But the but the coach gives them, gives them the confidence that they can shoot a shot and I'm not gonna take you out even if it's a bad shot.

Because you know why, as long as yo ass defending, I ain't tripping by the offense, and we're gonna that's gonna take care of itself. This defense end down here. That's when we got to sit in this chair, communicate and make sure our defense fuels our offense so we can get out and get easy baskets. I think they've been the best team at that all year.

Yeah, I agree. Yeah.

Now the football, The Cleveland Brown selected Arkansas quarterback Tailing Green in the sixth round, number.

One eighty two.

They became the first team in fifteen years to take three signal callers in two draft two drafts. Fan Green joins the quarterback room currently holding Shador Sanders, Deshaun Watson, and Dylan Gabriel. The six foot five, two hundred and twenty seven pound Green had a record breaking performance at the combine. He ran four to three six, the fastest

I got a question. I got a question real quick.

So if you, if you Deshaun Watson, Dylan Gabriel, Sanders, how do you feel about this pick.

Look they brought they got here, six round pick.

I guess they're like the measurables, because if you thought that much of him, you just selected him earlier. Me, I'm going to compete every year they bringing somebody in to take somebody position. Yeah, now maybe it wasn't. Maybe it wasn't. I wasn't on the chopping block. My position wasn't on the chopping block last year with Joe. But I know at some point in time, guess what They're gonna bring somebody in to replace my ass?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, Hey, I'm saying teams don't care. No damn Folk quarterbacks. Dudey No.

The last time I can remember, we mentioned the Patriots dead Tom Brady.

That was the last time I can recall four active quarterbacks. You can't.

You can't court fig. Nobody's carrying for active quarterbacks now. Because you want that guy to be a swing offensive alignman, a wide receiver. Normally, that guy is gonna have to be able to play. You're gonna have to be able to play special teams. It's just not enough position. I mean, the quarterback don't give you any value other than playing quarterback. He's not gonna play special teams. He's not gonna play defense. So more times than not, the extra guys is gonna

Yeah? Offensive lineman? Can you play center? And guard? Can you play guard? Tackle?

It's just too valuable. I don't care. I'm going to compete. All I know is that I'm gonna make this team.

Yeah, that's it.

I mean honestly, I mean, the the tests and the numbers, they look good. Obviously they wild those that are scouts, those that are gms, but obviously it has to be able to translate to the god damn football field as well. If they thought, you know of him the way mostly probably view it. I mean, there's nothing, there's nothing to worry about. You know, Deshaun is gonna be the starting quarterback. We already know that and probably probably damn sure do

Damn. I think he's probably more of a project than anything. Oh Joe.

I think he's wraw bring him in and treat him like they did Cordiel Stewart. They threw Cordial the ball, the ball. He got that kind of speed. Yeah, yeah, So.

What happens, What happens if he plays in the preseason. I'm talking about he look Immaculin out there.

Hey Joe, that's preseason. Boy. Ain't nobody out there.

And ship you still trying? You still try it out for thirty something.

I know, I know. I'm just saying, Joe. In the preseason, none of them boys bought them britt the boys they oh Joe.

But when you came into the NFL, you can attested this too. Hell, I can attest to it. I didn't give a damn.

My rookie year.

Yeah, preseason or not, boy, I was out there trying to show what I could do.

Absolutely, I'm plays I'm gonna bust somebody ask for sure.

Right, But I'm just saying. I'm just saying, Joe watching a rookie go in in the preseason and thinking you're gonna be able to judge him, and what are you gonna be be doing the regular season? But he's not playing against the ones and the ones that's actually gonna be out there on Sundays at one o'clock. I take

I think the thing is is that I want to see him and I understand he's young, he's wrong, but I like the measurable six five twenty seven. He has excellent speed, he has excellent size. Let's see if we get him now, he's only gonna have four weeks to prepare. But do we see enough that if we keep him under our umbrella for a year he can get acclimated to our system. Do we see down the road him being viable for us? Because I just can't look right now.

You're born with that.

But what I can teach you is how to change your mechanics and throw the football. I can get your body under control so you can throw the football more accurately. So I think that's what they're gonna look at. I know that's what they look at in the preseason. That's what got be because they looked at me, and it's like, damn, look how big he is. He's a willing he's a willing attacker, he's a willing blocker. We can find something for him to do in the meantime until he figures it out.

Absolutely, it's so funny too, is you look at scouts and they use all these numbers, they use the combine, and really it really means nothing. Joe, What does the film look like? When you turn the goddamn film on? What does the player look like? You can measure, you can jump out the gym, you can you can run a Fox two four one all that doesn't matter. It doesn't matter what do you look like when I turn the film on? How can you make an impact on

Right?

That's all it comes down to, you know, I mean it's it's really cool time. I mean, running good, jumping high, doing the cone drills and all that. Sometimes if it's very good, you'll you'll climb up the draft board. You climb up the draft board, you know, and you you become what they call a steel But the film don't lie, Joe film.

I think the thing is what he has is ishu that teams don't care about it. The quarterback. They don't care that you run for for They don't care. You got a forty three is vertical because the where are you gonna leave?

Use it?

You gonna be Walter Payton and jump on the top. So now, if he's a wide receiver and had those measurables, he the DBS, he's gonna be in the top three rounds with thosebles.

Yeah, but getting past the third round.

If you're a wide receiver, you and you six' five and you rub sub for four with a forty three and a half inch vertical and eleven or two broad, jup you not getting out of the first three.

Rounds absolutely.

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Yeah or put me on the practice. Squad All i've tried to.

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Megatron, yeah but we got to slow down.

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And you know it's so much.

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And then you and come up out of.

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Say this IS meni, camp.

Just the first ONE i go to.

See so can, YOU i, mean can you kind of share how.

How Did deshaun and and chadur and. Doing, look and.

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Xyz now you probably talked about the first, rounders had d you, know the first two or three yesterday and now? Today how did you fill out your? Roster do you like what your? Guy is there any other addition that you're probably gonna? Make is there anybody that you're gonna bring? In are you gonna bring this or are you gonna bring? That you should have asked him about the mini camp when you had him in. Manicamp they try to be.

And you know, What it's always gonna be a story To Uncle, joe especially When Sean watson coming. BACK i mean you got you you understand the storm and the questions that come with the, door you, know still being there obviously To, sean and they're gonna be a back and. Forth it's gonna be it's gonna create a dialogue and it's going to be a conversation throughout the entirety of the. Season. Yeah so it's it is what it. Is they got to be ready for. It they got to be ready for.

Careful, WELL i just think you, know from a fan, perspective, bro everybody wants to know the quarterback. Situation we understand they addressing needs they. Got can we get the trading? Camp can we can we get to get everybody, Here. Joe i'm just, Saying i'm saying from from a fan, standpoint we want to know what the hell he?

Thinking What joe Is, April i'm never playing. Games He'll.

September, no but, hell it's gonna be out of The shawn And shure doing.

Like No, joe you know who is gonna be Already joe gonna start off the starting quarterback for The Cleveland. Browns is gonna be the one making forty million goddamn. Dollars he's not gonna be on the. Bench wait a, minute you're making forty million and you're. Healthy you think

Right in the mere fact that you're having to ask this. Question let you know you don't have a solid. Starter what? Team they ain't asking The rams about who their quarterback. Is they ain't asking The, patriots they're not asking The, broncos they're not asking any other. Team they're asking this because they don't have A they're not solidified at that. Position understand, that but it's only mini. CAMP i think about. It we ain't got the Main they ain'tven brought the,

Camp, well, Listen, july.

You ain't talking About you ain't talking about you ain't talking about training. Camp you ain't talking about the mandatory mini.

Camp hey.

Listen, well if that pissed him off every time he gets his ass up there to answer some, QUESTIONS i guarantee you that's gonna be TYPIC aod.

Discussion absolutely, absolutely.

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Oh, JOE i gave you a plus? One who you? Bringing you had decided? Yet you know What i'm.

SAYING i, MEAN i, Know i'm just saying it could be actually could. Be why Now i'm just saying for, Cambody i'm just saying. Faiciously i'm just, SAYING i give it your a plus. One oh, yo who you coming? With you ain't you know you ain't show, Yet but you don't start with something. Right so they, saying look, up somebody gonna be out.

There we. Haven't we we're not certain who that somebody.

Is but guess, what we gotta try to let mores out there when they kick it. Off, yeah, yeah you'll see where they come. Out you'll see you'll see uh when they tried it out. There you, know, look somebody gonna lead. It you know it's gonna be what we. Get Should door didn't take any snaps. Today dylan took a lot of snaps With Joe. Flacco Should door's, working Should door's just throwing off to the side by, himself you know how this thing?

Go and then the funny. Back they play right into the. Circus the gym and the owner and the head coach play right into the circus because if you answer the question right away from the, beginning then you don't have to deal with the. Question, Though Goddamn, Mark.

No guess what El? Joe IF i answer? That what led you to this? Decision when you haven't seen any of them practice against each other with nobody out there going against live. Competition you, see you, see all you did was see what you did ON. Yoa you invited another question just about doing what you. Did Heyst that's how they walk you into a.

Trap BUT i rather that than having to hear the same question over and over and over and over until it's tell to you until your. Answer who's gonna be

Season, YES i agree with, you but what but now me opening that door now every, time every day of, practice What i'm gonna? Get how does your door look? Today has your? Door has your door done anything to Overtake? DeShawn deshan had a bad, Day are you looking at your door to replace?

Him DeShawn had a good?

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Do he's.

Emotional he had a lot going on in this. Plate he explained it to you by A i. FELT i felt a lot of this, stuff he. Asked i'm talking about actly what he was talking. ABOUT i understand what it's like to be. HUNGRY i understand what it's like to have a not a dominant male figure in your.

Life i'll get.

THAT i had my, brother but he wanted his, father and what his mother told him wasn't what the father relayed to. Him so he had a resentment towards his mother when he's trying to work through the work through that she. Died NOW i didn't really get a chance to make amends for. That my, coach WHO i thought was my father figure in my, LIFE i had to repay him everything that he had done for me in my.

Childhood.

Damn so he felt like everybody that he had the most trust in betrayed.

Him NOW i got a wall. UP i don't know who to trust.

NOW i try to tell you what's wrong With you're, Like i'm telling, you but that ain't what you. Tip that ain't what's wrong with. YOU i just told you what was wrong with. ME i told You i'm. Hungry you telling ME i got a damn. Headache, yeah it's a hunger. Pain SO i understood. Exactly but my job was not to try to be Doctor. Ruth my job wasn't trying not to try to be doctor Laws. Lessinger my job was to ask questions to try to get him to go in detail of why this tru what is the?

TRAUMA i don't.

Know LIKE i, SAID i have never heard Of Michael beasley interview everybody that's been on my. SHOW i never watched them on any other shows BECAUSE i don't want it to dictate WHAT i. Ask, now there might be some questions that that are similar to other podcasts that he's been, on BUT i think that's the thing that we do At Club shaysha is that we try to go as deep as we possibly. Can and what does

Them, yeah.

You come To club Shay, shay you sit across from, me you get to. Determine, now sometimes they're telling us, say, LOOK i only got sixty, MINUTES i only got sixty five, MINUTES i got ninety, minutes, Okay but for the most, part they's, like, HEY i got as much time as you. Need you're not gonna be, interrupted and you're not gonna be. Judged what did he? Say they wouldn't listen to, him and they judged. Him he told, you he, SAID i kept trying to reinvent. Myself that's WHY i kept cutting my.

Bar.

WOW i had to come. Home IF i came, HOME i couldn't come home and just have something for. MYSELF i had to bring something for.

Anybody, yeah when you're talking about that, Pizza, yeah.

You don't know what it is like when you have to grow up and be a man before your, Time because it. Real what Was Michael jackson searching? For he never got a chance to be a. Child so that's why he built Never. Land, yep he wanted to go back and grab something that he never got a chance to be a part, of which was a. Kid jesus, LIKE i never got a chance to be a. KID i had to grow up. Immediately and.

It's so much.

TALENT i, mean you can feel the, pain you can see the. Hurt just listen to and. Talk listen to, understand don't listen to. Respond BUT i didn't feel that was my. PLACE i wasn't trying to diagnose. Him oh, you what WAS i laughing? About there were situations in there with you know that THAT i thought was. Funny sometimes you try to break the. MOVE i would, ask if we, paused we don't see. That he's, like, NO i don't want. TO i DON'T i don't want. TO i don't want to CLEAN x just let me cry M.

What he overcame just to get. Here how long did it take? Him m, hm he, said that's what y'all, do y'all judge WHAT i. Did y'all didn't know the choices THAT i was.

Given everybody says what they will or won't do until they're in a situation and you have to make a. Decision now you know what you will or you won't do because you don't. Know, Oh iua did, This, OKAY iuda did? That.

Okay, yeah you don't know how strong you are until you gotta be.

Strong thank.

You, see people look at Strength joe as being able to lift. Weights strength is overcoming something that you didn't think you, could.

And that's where strength come. FROM.

Mm the problem is is that y'all don't get an opportunity to see what takes place before or after.

All y'all go. By is what y'all see on.

Camera y'all don't know the conversations that we have before the camera's role or after the camera's. Role all y'all talking about you be a messy y'all don't Realize i've already we've already had a. Conversation is there anything that you don't feel comfortable talking? About some, says, HEY i WISH i prefer not to go. Here Some i'm an open book With i'm, here you got. Me whatever you want to talk, about let's talk about.

It but, again.

You judge my decisions on not to DO X y zo to do something with not knowing the choices THAT i was. Given there's a lot more to it than just, oh he's just reading a que. Card so, no it doesn't go like. That it has to be you, know he have to be a get a start. In you got, Comfortable you get hear him or her, comfortable and then they'll open up as long as they don't feel you're judging them, right long as you're not cutting them. Off that's why the, interviews most of my interviews look at co.