Nightcap Hour 2: Questioning JAGS usage of TRAVIS HUNTER? + Patrick Surtain DISRESPECTS Ocho + MICAH looks forward to SACKING DAK+ SHAUN ALEXANDER has 14 KIDS?!

A few days after coach Prime said the Jags aren't using Travis Hunt enough, Liam Cole said, Travis Hunter roll on offense won't expand take a listen to what he had to say.

O Joe.

Yeah, he's one right now, one position on offense and one position on defense, so that that doesn't really fully change. It's just more the next guy having to go and adjust to to go play some Z which what which is what happened in the game. So no, I don't think it changes much. So after the season where he'll be he'll sprang a little offense. Ye, it's fair right now to say hey, dude, go learn Z n X and twelve and this and that. It's like, man, we got to make sure he can really go and execute it.

That's why I can you.

See Moore Parker went the audio town so more.

Jenni's with Parker.

I know he was very transparent with us about two drops.

You said he had great practice last week consoctations.

With his usages.

Yeah, I think you know, I have not lost any confidence in Parker by any means. You know, stuff happens. It's not obviously something that we're excited about in the moment, but you know, he took He takes a lot of responsibility and accountability. He works his tail off every single day practice. Like like I said, he literally had his best week of practice last week as a JAG since we've

Man.

I agree, Yeah, I mean me, I always thought O Joe he would be better serve playing defense and didn't have packages for more offense. I mean, but everybody, everybody wanted to manage. Just ay, we're gonna just throw him in there and let him play.

Bro.

This ain't college. I don't care what anybody says. I don't care how many snaps he played and how great he was. This is the best of the best. There's a reason why they stopped doing that in the sixties. There's a reason. So to ask this man and see, I'm not the Ojo. There have been a lot of guys that can play both ways. But can you play them at an elite level? Because that's what it comes down to. You see Troy Brown played offensive defense. You saw a Julian Edelman play it in Spurts, But can

Chase? Can you do that? So this notion about oh he can do that, he can do that.

I want to see him do it at an elite level on both sides of the ball, and the coaches said, there'll be a time for that.

Let the guy get used to the system.

He's not there yet obviously.

But everybody they misusing him. They're not misusing it.

I think they just bringing them along slowly, not just the fire, throwing them out there to the wolves. Allowing him to get acclimated, learn everything so you don't have to think, because you play your best.

When it was at Colorado, he already knew what to do.

That's why he was playing his best. Yes, I don't have to think. I can just go play and react. So once he gets to the point over there in Jacksonville, then they're add a little bit more on his plate.

Okay, we go. You know, we got this. Okay, he got f Okay, now we can teach him z more on his plate.

Okay, boom, oh he got Z. Now we then defensively, Okay, he's a little bit more. He's a little comfortable.

Now boom.

Maybe we're gonna put him in on first and second downs instead of waiting until third.

It's just just a little rep.

Just bring them along slow.

So I think it's kind of smart, smart than the way they're using them right now. I think there'll be certain situations, certain circumstances where they will need that advantage, that mismatch that he does create on both sides.

Of the ball.

I think the thing is ojo is that look, you know, when you was a kid.

Like give me someone no eat what's on your plate, Let him eat what is on his plate, Let him get this position, let him master that.

And then as he starts to master that.

I don't care if anybody says pro offenses are more complicated than college offenses. Pro defenses are more complicated than college defenses. That's just the way it is. And the athletes are better, just better, I don't care. Look, and we believe the SEC and the Big Ten is as close to the NFL as we get. Guess what, there are a lot of guys in the SEC and the Big Ten that don't make it in the NFL. All those guys that come out there on Sunday, they made it.

Mm hmm.

The thing about the SUV, O Joe, is what made the SUV so popular, Ojo. I can hire my kids in it, and I can pull up to it, I can go, hey, I can be in the carpool line, or I can go to I can go to a black dinner.

I can do both.

I can drive in the summertime a I can be at Miami and drive my SUV.

But guess what, I can go to Minnesota and also do it.

So if it if it doesn't give me that kind of value, what are we doing?

Ojo? Right?

But but another thing too, Also, you took him so high, right, you traded up to get it right, So we're going here in week four? Now, I understand it's a long season. What you add on to that plate.

We need to keep on. We need to keep on adding and see that a little bit more week to week.

And I think that's what they're gonna do. Ojoe.

I mean, I think he played This was the first time that he played more defense than he played offense. But I think he was still around sixty plays. They just we just haven't seen him getting the m zone. We say, haven't seen him get any interceptions what we routinely saw at Colorado.

Man, is this the NFL? Y'all realize this is the best of the best.

This is the top zero zero zero zero point one percent. That's what that is. Bro, I don't think. I don't think people get it. I don't. I think the thing is that people just people actually thought, oh Joe, he was gonna just walk in there and do what in the NFL, what he did at Colorado. And then if you say, oh Joe, like man Ojo said, I got eleven years this thing, man, I think, ain't that easy. I got fourteen. I said, Man, it's not that easy.

Of all time.

I mean time, they had a package.

Time was a did what he did defensively, and then he would come in with a package. Now he played a little bit more when I think Michael got hurt one year or the number two receiver got hurting, so he played more.

But same thing with Champ, same thing with Champ in Washington, Yes, same way, yep.

But for me personally, I don't think they're misusing Trap. I think they're building him up slowly and slowly and get putting more and more on his plate, and the more he can eat, the more he can digest, and we'll just keep going like going like that until we build it out. We don't need, Hey, this thing, I don't We don't need to build this overnight. We don't need to try to have him learn x y x z F. We don't need to do all that. A you got the slot. Oh you're playing, Oh you playing,

But I'm sure there's a lot going on in this plate.

But it's Oh Joe, it's hard because to get good at something you do it all.

The time over and over.

It's repetition. Yeah, it's it's it's repetition.

So he go from he go from a standing split to now he's in the back pedal.

And the funny thing, he won't be there the Travis Hunter we used to seeing that we saw in Colorado. He won't be that into the NFL until he knows everything. He's still think he's still thinking, I know he's football at the end of the day, but he's still thinking, it's your rookie year, you're going in the week four, you're still thinking. So they're putting you in advantageous positions where you don't have to think.

You just gotta play. That's why you play. That's why is so small right now.

So all you have to do you just play and let your God give him the ability in what you've learned so far take over.

Yes, I mean give him a year two. Let's see where he's at halfway through the season. Let's see where he's at at the end of the season. Let's see where he's at year two, year three. And it's so funny, but in order in order for this to make sense, he's gonna have to be lead on both levels because you took him so high. You took him with the number two pick in the draft. Number two pick in the draft is supposed to be franchise altered. Yeah, and

I can't use him in that position yet because franchise franchise altering is usually held for the quarterback position outside of elite skilled players. At most of the time, as the receiver receiver dB well and DB's come around every so often, but receiver, quarterback or running back franchise altering.

But his plate isn't full enough for him to be franchise altering right now?

Correct not? It's hard. I mean, it's like I don't end him. I understand that he wants to do things that nobody's ever done. And it's been a long time since we got to have a guy that this talent. We saw Champ Bailey do it, Miles Jack did it as a running back and a linebacker at UCLA. But it ain't easy. It ain't easy to be elite because with the number two pick, you're supposed to be elite, and he wants to be elite on both sides of

Tiger Woods, Serena Serena Williams. That's what you get.

When God kiss you with God given ability and work effict.

Dangerous. And the funny thing about it is he already got the work ethic too. Not only do we have the work ethic, but he got damn believe he can do it. He he could do it. That's part of it that I was just gonna say that, that's part of it.

Once you believe you could do something, Oh boy's up, it's up.

Then Ojo, Tarren Arnold and Passel tay and got some words for yo, yo, take a list of what he

It's two thousand and five and we're covering Primo Jo Sinko Ocho, the one with the quick feet, the one with the releases open every Sunday. What's your defensive philosophy going up against a guy like Ocho.

You know it's two thousand and five, so the game a little different. Whatever he sent me to my locker, whether it had been pepto bismo, a bottle of ketchup or whatever he decided them whole antics or whatever, I would have sent it right back to him. Yeah, I would have sent some glue, just as far as me approaching him. And you already noticed. If you're gonna play press and you're gonna open the gate, you might watch the playoff.

Fact my whole thing.

When I get in front of Ocho and with him being the I'm all a guy small, I'm gonna play press.

I'm not gonna lie.

He might think this different spell, but I'm playing inside.

Whatever. You gotta beat me on thee. He ain't gonna out run you.

You feel me. You gotta beat me on the nine. And I know he quicker than fast. Them plays where I get them cover tools put their hands. He decided to catch some hitches and stuff. Hey, I gotta make you pay when I tack you.

He approach the line, you going up to the DBC. I'm I'm telling you what route I'm running.

Yeah, you still ain't gonna stop it? Yes, I'll be damn.

Hey, what they say you just tried.

You're telling me your route? Oh you think I'm a scrub.

That's equivalent that you line up was saying. Look, man, safety letting in the other direction.

It's just me and you.

Bro, It's just me.

Whatever you want to run, bro, take outside releases, it's me you on the sidelines of Jesus.

Brother, you pick your poison.

Hey, one thing. One thing about it, boy, one thing about it. When it comes to Jesus, he had twelve disciples.

You're gonna need all twelve of them to stop me.

Boy boy, young whooping stabbers that lost their mind.

Listen, I'm gonna beat him. I'm gonna beat him in the talk.

Game first, before we even get to the field. I'm gonna beat him in the media before we can get to the field.

I love Pat I love Taran Donald, but I understudy them boys, and I ain't even playing hunk, and I could tell you how to beat them already.

Arran Arnold said.

The first thing he said was is I'm gonna play inside. The fact that you said you're gonna give me a one way go, a free release outside lets me know you done already for one.

It ain't even about you catching up.

It's the fact that I can run full speed and run by you and stop on a dime. That lets me know I'm gonna beat you on every route.

I will run.

Hey, I would run a comeback, I would run a square, I would run a speed out.

Of your glass everything And P two and he talk about you smaller than you, talk about two thousand and five of a different era. You God damn right, buy I played against the two thousand Steelers. I played against the two thousands raving it. You talk about you're gonna make me feel it when you tackle me.

Feel what you understand? Where I play it like that? What era them on that they'll play like that? Da physical?

And P two You sitting there talking to you can get this work in the off season.

What you're talking about?

Yeah, bad back And see like them guys get up to like I see guys like like in the nineties when I came.

Into the league.

If you if you if you do this at the line of scrimmage them joke's coming.

Up right stabbing right away, unc.

And all that dance. You're gonna say that for the clue.

But listen, this is the funny thing about it too.

I like something that they said, is what's the point of playing press if you're gonna open up?

But you dead the right?

You dead the right.

You sit there and think you're gonna spread your legs, or you're gonna sit there and be square and stay there with me.

Boy, you've done you cook. I ain't even know.

Chef, but I'm gonna cook you. What you talking about?

You better open the gate if anything.

Hell, now, you can't open the gate. You open it. If you open the don't flies come out? But who can tell them?

It's me.

It's me, I'm saying, don't. They can't.

They cannot. If you open the door, flies come in your house. When flies come in your house, bad.

If you don't open the door, I'm gonna pick your lock. He listen.

If you don't, I'm gonna pick your lock.

So either way, you've done.

Hey, that's the thing.

Like I said, it had been different though your I think the thing is had they been in this era, so maybe they'll be physical. It's hard to say I'll be physical if you didn't come up in a physical era.

You know what I'm saying, O your because I believe.

I believe it's easy to come up in a physical area era saying this era as opposed to coming up in this era here and trying to go back to physicality.

No. Absolutely, it's like it's like a coach.

It's even it's easier as a parent to be hard and be and become lenient as opposed to be lenient. And they're trying to be tough because all the teachers that let you did whatever you talk yall can talk and get up when you want to and go to the bathroom the moment they said shout to sit down to men.

Hey, I like them boys though. I love the fact and I love the fact that they have a podcast.

Especially deepensive backs. It's not too many times we have players of their caliber, especially P two. Terry On Arnold is coming along. He's doing he's doing very well, getting much better this year. It's not very many times we have players that like to voice their opinions on some of the some of the nuances of the game. So it's good to see active players willing to open up whether they're playing good or whether they're playing bad, and talk about the game of football. So I really enjoy

Sean Payton defended boat Nick's mechanics today with the promise that the big players will come. Peyton said off his biggest problem is that he hasn't found its identity, and

He'll he'll find he'll find his groove, he'll get into rhythm, he'll find that flow of the offense.

Remember that I just told you.

Offenses don't get into a rhythm and flow until maybe be week five or week six. Defenses is really easier and they're ahead of the cur because all they're doing is reading, reading, and reacting.

So it's gonna come. I know that's your team.

I'm not even here gonna make no jokes about him, but both Nicks played very well. Hey, bow Nicks played very well last year, so that people making fun of his mechanics nothing changed. He's just not into the rhythm and what you've seen from him last year. It's gonna come. It's it's so early. It's so early.

That's the thing, is that what's so impressive about great players is that just because you did something one year, it doesn't automatically mean you're gonna do it again the next year. You got to go back and do it all over again. That's the one thing I love most about professional sports. You get an opportunity to update your resume on a weekly basis. On basketball, sometimes it's on a.

Nightly basis, but you get to update your.

Resume because what's on your resume ain't got nothing to do with what you're gonna do. Yes today, I got to go out there and prove it. So I'm updated my resume every Sunday, every Monday. Of what you know, I think I played. I played one Thursday game, Thanks given day. But that's when you up. I gotta update my resume. I oh, Joe, I don't want to hear nothing about you went to the Pro Bowl.

I don't care nothing about you in All Pro? Can you be? Can you be a Pro Bowl player and an All Pro player today?

Exactly?

That's all I care about that is that you did last year. There ain't got nothing to do with it nothing, Because I'm approved. I'm gonna show you why I got voted in I got I'm just look, the fans voted, the coaches voted, my peers, voted. A lot of guys that voted didn't never play the game. They voted me off. I'm gonna show you today. You're gonna lead this game. So yeah, yeah, man eighty four, Hey, hey sharp sharp he for real now he talked, but hey he got

Think, if you say, oh, he flawed or he does, he's not Jeordan.

Okay, for the sake of this conversation, let's just say he's not Jordan. All I know in You're twenty two, he averaged twenty four to eight to eight. He's still voted. He's still a top ten player. Nobody in the history of the game has been a top ten player for this long much longevity. Nobody has been an All NBA selection this late in their career. Go back and look at all the guys that played twenty or more seasons and see what they average as far as points, as

And see what they did.

That's what you gotta respect about those guys because they do it year in, year out, game in and game out, and when you play, because sometimes I don't think people realize. I don't think your people get their They don't get their appreciation that they deserve.

But if you.

Play this game, you understand it.

Yes, absolutely, But like I said last year, look, we don't want to say because we keep saying we just automatically assumed, O Yoe that c J. Stroud will going, Hey, he has yet to look like he did his Brookie year. Yeah, people get tape on you and think about and the longer you play, oh Joe, guess what. The more tape they get, the more intel, the more info.

They like.

Uncles saying Unca, Sam, I know you've been all your taxes. They let you go into you can't we see it as a count. Yeah, we got him upside down. Now let's go on in there. That's how That's how the league yels. They get more and more intail, more and more intail. That's how they do it, is gathering intail. Well, guess what I've gathered intail two?

Definitely, I think. I think, Oh it's he's struggling. He's struggling. He's struggling.

I mean, Cam cam Ward is he's a little up and down here, he's showing little flashes.

But Cam teammatesers need to catch the ball.

That that too.

Uh see, they strive, they gonna, they gonna, they don't, They're gonna find it. They got they got, they got to find it. But they ain't look he ain't looked the same last year. Collectively as a team, they didn't. And so this year, this year is picking up, picking up right where they left.

Off, picking up where they left off from last year.

I didn't have that matchup.

But he's got five guys in front of him, plus the tight end and running backs that he's got to get through then I'll worry about worry about if he can get to me.

Oh yo, have you.

Ever faced your teammate? Have you ever faced anybody that you you know a former teammate.

Because you say you.

Didn't play when you played with the New England, you said you didn't play against I didn't.

So I didn't really get the opportunity to face against anybody that was a teammate of mine, not that I can recall right off the top of my head, especially not someone that I was going to have to deal with at the defensive back position.

I don't think I did.

I did who you had to face?

Kansas City Glenkerdres was our middle lineback on one of my Super Bowl teams. I told him, I said, Bro, I don't play us over. I told the defensive courting that Greg Roberts arrest your soul. I said, Greg, this defense is unsiund I said, I promise you. I have two hundred yards on you, and I get two hundred on you.

I mean two fourteen.

I just saw the defense. I just say, it's some sound, but they hit and I'm like, you can you can't. I said, first of all, you can't guard me. Bro I mean, look, I get I get practiced because y'all look, oh Joe, you know what they do.

They go look at the script, they see where the ball going.

And they yes, and they pretend like they know they oh, they deed it up, but they already they cheat.

So they know I'm gonna run a basic cross.

So I'm gonna run an out, I'm gonna seven, and so they don't go for none of the face. That's just oh okay. Now, if we get into a game, you're not gonna know. You're not gonna be able to look at that. And so the moves that you don't buy it for in practice, I guarantee you you're gonna buy them in the game.

Absolutely, I told them.

Mm hmm. It just so happens.

He's the defensive coordinator for the Kansas City Chiefs and cadres with the middle linebacker.

You gave him that work.

I had a I had one hundred and eighty one in the second half.

Broa, Hey, that's funny.

Oh Jo.

You know when a defense is unsound, and you know when a player really can't do anything against you. Now I get private example. Now, he I mean our our off defensive lineman he got two and a half sacks against uh Baselli when Basilli was at his ax.

Yes, yes, but he was a real dead two and a half.

M hmm. But I'm like, bro, you not gonna be you not finna d meet. I know I quit. I tell you.

You know, a wrestling when they're gonna retire, they take the shoes off the c I said, Man, if you d me up, I'm gonna take my shoulder paths off, my helmet shoes and cinn them in the middle of the field. I'm done, man, please, I might as well be done. I can't get no job. Who gonna hire me?

He d me up?

That's that's that's funny. That's funny.

But I was like, look, but I love going against guys because practice was really hard for me. When guys didn't study the script and they get I need a feedback on Joe Hey. They would tell me, sharp, you lean into that one. That's kind of how I got to jump on and you gave me a tale. Uh you got on your toes. I know, when you're getting ready to break, you start getting them toes. So they would give me feedback man, and then I and then

To stop me in the game. Don't work.

That don't work.

Please do not work.

It's a different ball game.

No, it doesn't not, not not for me. But look, I just think the thing is that you work, you look at it, you look okay. And the thing was hard for me, o Joe because the way they covered another tight end, they were gonna cover me like that because I had a difference of skills. Most tight ends were clumbersome. And you know you caught twenty five passes. You had an outstanding Yeah. They were very robotic. They played bumper cars. Oh no ah, No, I ain't touch it.

Nothing today?

A they up there wiggling it but nothing today sharp. Oh you know how to get the standing.

Side getting ready yours out the way that that's what we're doing.

Bad out you. I wish you could have gone against some of your former teammates.

That would have been fun, broy, that that would have been fun. That would have.

Yeah, man, a to be back there beating because it ain't nothing like, but you know the thing it was on your like. But I played the Broncos in the in the playoff game. I really didn't do no talking, no, no, yeah, I was. I was focused. I wanted to shoulder and I just remember oho, I caught that tip uh Trent through a pass in the flat and I already knew.

Jamal big mam man his hands it suspect. I already knew that.

And it was windy, so the ball like, first of all, it could be a nice no breeze seventy five degrees.

Jamal was gonna struggle catching the football.

I knew that, So you know what, Joe, I started making my way that just I said, you know what, something told me, just make my way that way, Tred throw him the ball, the ball go up in the air.

You right there for it.

I catch it. It's right there in front of the Broncos bench. I turned the corner.

Out the down.

Gone.

That was. That was really the play that and we got it. We up seven. I think we up at that point. I think we're up fourteen.

Yeah, that was that was the dagger.

Huh, it's over.

Not not not against that defense, not unless Tread throw a pick or somebody.

You know, we fumbled the ball and got a scooping score. But as far as driving the football, you ain't listen.

You ain't stringing enough, you ain't streaming together enough drives that that happened.

No, not not, No, You're not finna go eighty seventy eighty yards against that defense. That wasn't gonna happen. We knew that. Once we got that lead. I was like, oh, yeah, hey, just don't turn it over. They ain't get that. They're not they're not getting anything against that. But what about when your teammates left Cincinnati and went to another team, did you not you never played any your former teammates.

I think the only the only person that might have played might have been Jonathan Joseph when he was in Houston.

Okay, I'm not sure.

Didn't j JO go to Colorado? Didn't he from any from cu No?

I think Jjo from South Carolina?

Right, Oh, you're right, that is where he went to the game. Yeah, you're right, You're absolutely right. O Joe, You're absolutely right.

I can't remember. I remember Delta O'Neill left. I'm trying to think that Delta.

Delta was what me and Delta was with me.

He came from Denver to Cincinnati in their mind. Yeah, that's that's the only thing. That's the only person I can remember.

Former NFL MVP and Seahawks legend Sean Alexander is expecting his fourteen child with his wife, Valerie. Alexander said, we're just starting to tell people, but number fourteen is in the belly.

We have ten girls, three boys.

My oldest son, the fourth overall, is a South Morton High School. My oldest son, the fourth overall, is a South Morton High school.

O Jo.

What, As a matter of fact, I saw Sean about two years ago. As a matter of fact, a year and a half. Yeah, two years ago, twenty three. I saw him in April of twenty three. No no, no, no, no, no no, let me take that bag. I saw him in April of twenty four, and at that time I said, man, you know, say how you doing?

Man?

He said, Man, I'm congratulations. I'm happy for your priud. He said, man, I'll be a he said many. He said bad. Hey you funny? He said, you're bad. You an o yo band tell o cho. I say, what's up? He said, But I love you. I love Club Sha Shay, I love Nightcap. I said, man, how the family do? How you you got like four?

Five?

He said, Sean, I got thirteen. I said, you bull driving? He said, nah sharp, he said, I got thirteen. I say, hey you hey, I said the same woman.

He said, the same woman. We've been together.

I think college right, because you know, I say, That's why I'm surprised when b Rob said you knew Nagors running back, and he didn't put Sean and Alexander in that list. I don't know if anybody in the middle of Alexander the Great, but that's.

A different story.

I was like.

Thirteen, I said, I said Sean. I said, oh Joe, I had hey. I still there and talked to him for a minute. I said, sean thirteen. He said, I got thirteen sharp. I say, Lord, have birthday. I say, it don't seem like you do much other than.

Thirteen.

I mean, if it was nineteen fifties and sixties, people had a big bunch of kids because that was free labor. They put them kids asked to work. My grandfather had had nine and you know, the oldest, my mom was the oldest.

Girls.

So what she did, my grandmother would go to the fields, would go help my grandfather do what they needed to do.

And when as the.

Boys got older, they would joined it. So that's what the girls did. The girls. You know, she cooked and well my grandmother went to you know, hey, it wasn't like it is now. Those six weeks. My grandma dropped that baby. A week later. A couple of days later, she in the field with my granddad with Papa. So and I was like, I was in I was, I was like, I still, I just couldn't. I couldn't believe it. Thirteen so about to be fourteen? Lords will fourteen?

Oh joke?

I mean it depended, you know.

Also, when when you hear stuff like that, it depends on who you ask, and you depend on It depends on what they like. Some people love love big families, some people some people like that. But one I'm listening, I'm at eight, I'm at eight, but all all mine have grown except except two.

Oh yo, you at eight, you need six more. Let that say, kid, what you said? Think about what you said. You said, Oh, I'm an eight, you need five more with another one on the way.

Yeah, you have them all, You're done. Who I'm just I'm just asking.

Plumbing out of work.

I got you, I got pipe. I'm thinking. I'm thinking, I'm thinking we'll go ahead. You here saying, I'm just saying.

Do you know how many years that's being pregnant? So let's just say, for the sake nine months time, fourteen? How many years is that.

I'm not good at math?

She got fourteen.

That's got to be at least twelve thirteen years of being practiced.

That's crazy, that's crazy.

I wouldn't hold the oldest because the fourth oldest is a boy, and he's a cyboy in high school.

So they got.

Three older than him, so that means all of them, all of them ain't in college. So that means one of the girls at least one of the girls, probably a junior senior. Now he might have two in college. But you know they say you got them doorstep side on your.

Ooh.

I think, I think.

I think if I was, if I was about to have kids again, I would want twins and then be done.

No, I'm good, I am for sure, all right, I'm pretty.

I never know, you never know, but it's neat.

Listen, man, why are you trying to why you always try to wear something on.

I'm not trying to wish nothing knowing. I'm just saying, you never know.

Something like that could change, change change your life, or change your vision and some of the things like I'm just being honest.

I love kids, you know. You know how I am.

You know I am, And I ain't do thinking I love other people kids, well, I love kids. That's mine love. I love mine, you know. And and I think maybe maybe another two three years I have twins. I just want to make sure my affairs are in order. I need to talk to the rest of my tribe and make sure the trap is okay with it. And then if the trap is okay with it about boom y'all mad yo yo?

Can you imagine what that grocery bill.

Is any of that bad? Eight to fourteen? It ain't really no different.

What you mean?

It ain't that different? Oh yo, they don't live with you. Imagine if every last kid with you, can you imagine what your grocery bill would be?

Yeah?

When they all he had the same time during the summer.

Ye, yes, So imagine here at the same time every day.

You know how much money you spend when they're there just for a couple of days or a week at a time.

So imagine three sixty five.

Yeah, that ain't bad, ain't nothing.

It is something. I mean, but that's a red paper of the week.

Where you got you got that fetty? You know that ain't nothing for you?

Look, I know how much of my kids I can just imagine fault teck. Well, let's just say, for the sake of argument, twelve twelve kids. Mmm, man, she going to They going to Costco every three days?

Every three day.

They going through water, Yes, boy, they going through water, juice, chimps.

What you got to cook? Oh? You know?

You know, you know what even make it easier though, with all my kids here is the older ones don't don't eat nothing here, and they take the little ones to go.

They take the little ones with them to go eat.

I don't, I don't. I don't think Sean doing that.

I don't.

Twenty seven, and then and then that the next is twenty twenty four, and then under that the next is twenty two.

So all mine they've grown grown.

But I said, imagine if all eight live with you every day, he got at least twelve living with him every day.

Yeah, and you're talking about.

The funny thing about it is even if I wanted him to live with me, man, man, daddy, please, you don't got no food in.

Him, water Bill. All they do is take a showery boy.

If you see my refrigerator right now, you'll laugh.

You'll laugh. They going through the ay like everybody take me.

They going through a two with two page a day.

Just think about it. They brush their teeth.

If sixteen people brush their teeth twice a day.

Let alone. Let somebody be obsessive. O sea.

When I think about it, right and I'm thinking about it right now, when I have all the kids. I have the kids during the summer, when obviously when the summer break, when everybody obviously home from college, and I have everybody at the same time, and I'm trying to think of what the numbers would be. But the fact that they always leave me by myself during the summer and go eat with each other out, I don't know what it's like and how.

Much the bill would be. That's funny.

So I'm trying, I'm trying to wrap my head around out wondering what it would really be.

How much?

Because once I got everybody all together, we going out of town. We clean it.

Yeah, and so you know what that's called. He exactly. So imagine taking fourteen overake, you take it, you take it eight. Imagine taking fourteen plus two.

That's sixteen that you gotta think if you think about the past, right, So that's that's yeah, it's for it's twelve.

So hey, man, they got to drive. They gotta drive bus. Ain't no way they flying. Hey, they gotta drive. They gotta drive a school bus like the Partriers family used to drive a rabbits. Hey, y'all remember Patrick's family with what had the racks on top? Ain't do you don't want to play even if you got coach tickets? Can you imagine taking sixteen people on the flight?

I know because I do it. Every all season. I do it every all season.

When we've done every summer, I know what it is, Jamaica, Mexico, but we do have been everywhere, and.

They probably not. And Sean, Sean about your age.

Sean came into two thousand and one because even the draft with Jamal so y'all about to say forty six, forty seven, damn so twenty four her life, I mean half her life. She been pregnant basically basically so from her from her twenties, from her early twenties to forty she don't know.

She probably don't know his light to go two years with I've been pregnant.

Oh man, that's but hopefully she hopefully she delivers healthy baby number fourteen.

Knowing him, he's very religious.

He'll all time, all time, all time, gooddw As a matter of fact, I just tell her, I.

Just get him.

I sent him a text early today. He's like, man, and I told him, I said, man, I want you to come on. He said, you know what, he said, I would love to He said, hit me. Hit me at halftime. He said, I'll text you at the half. You know that's my Hawks player tonight. If I shut it down, we could do it next week, bet, I said, I texted him, I know your ass sleep. He read it. He respond yeah, so hopefully we get it. Bon we get it on next week.

Man.

I like it. I like it.

That's a lot of kids, man, that's a lot of kids. He'd been he'd have been perfect back in the forties, fifties and sixties when people had big but I go.

My first cousin, his granddad on his mom's side.

Had twenty six, goddamn from two women. He had twenty from one, had six from another, twenty six.

Forty six.

And it was different back then though.

Yeah.

I mean the oldest back there was like from like sixty, like sixty, and then the youngest was like two years old.

Damn.

I owed him some wild time.

He was still having he was still I think I think he was probably having still having kids like in his.

Eighties, old young fellow.

Yeah, he had he had twenty six twenty from one, twenty from miss Utah and uh six from another lady.

I'm good.

I stopped. I stopped at eight for a reason.

If anything, maybe two three years, I know, if if everything, if everything continues to go well the way it is, you know, in life and with work, I do twins and calls of the day.

I ain't doing no My grandfather, my grandfather, say, boy, the worst thing to be as child poor? Ain't like when you were growing up on Joe kids costs now, private school.

I didn't didn't hold on that. I got enough. I got enough to know what it costs. It ain't it ain't it ain't. It's what you choose to buy. I don't care how much it costs. It's always a loophole. I'm good, I'm glad. I got grands.

Ain't no sense in a ain't no sense, and my grand being older than my own kids, grands older than the grands, older than uncling on.

Hey. The one thing about it, though, when I think about it, man, it's a beautiful thing.

Man. Yeah, oh for sure.

I don't regret anybody any of my decisions.

Man.

My kids are beautiful.

Man.

Those I've had kids from it's also were on the same page. There's no no ill will. There's understanding that the kids come first and everything that we do is for them, so that that's that's a great thing. I really, I really have issues too. You know, most of the time when you have we don't do things the traditional way. There's always you know, riffs and rafts and yeah, I don't have no problems on I mean that they're disagreements at times.

You know, there are certain times we don't you know, we don't see.

How much diapers cost? How much di I'm gonna.

Get diapers from from a homeboy in the city, a little bit of nothing.

You how much? How much? How much a box of Pampas come Georgian requick.

I got a dude in Liberty City right now, give me Pampas, formula, anything you need for a little bit of nothing, forty five dollars. I get hey, I get you that say. I get you in Pampas, the same Pami they talking about. I get you them fifty dollars. Fifty dollars.

I can get your formula. I get your pack of formula for five dollars. Right now.

I'm gonna have me a farm. I'm gonna give me some gold. They're gonna be drinking golt milk.

I'm telling you, hey, but back in the day, people.

Used to have them cloth diapers. They didn't have no real papa. They had cloth diapers that you know, you.

Wash, yeah, and use them again.

Yeah, yeah, we'll.

Do with usually be hell yeah man plea, Yeah, all right, time five finals saventy evening, It's time.

For Q was dope. I like that.

Hey, Hey, I hope my voice stay like this, like like maybe the rest.

Of the month. Daniel Lawson said, thank you for the highlights of track and field.

Thank you. You know, we want to show our you know, our track and field athletes. They don't get the credit and deserve. I understand, you know, doing a few track workouts, nothing like what they do professionally, but understanding that the work that they put in and not for a lot of money, not for a lot of attention, and uh so we want to show those guys. So we're very proud of everybody that went to the World Championships, the ones that brought back gold medals, silver medal, bronze medal,

O shoe.

It is gonna be hard. His offensive line, Kyler Murrays. Look, some of the sacks are on him, but not all of them.

I mean, he seemed like he gets sacked down there like four or five times. Game. He got sacked six tams tonight.

Hey he's so he's so small back there, but hey when he get up out of there, ay, Kyler be gone.

He look like a little kid, Like a little kid.

When you telling a little kid the speedy guns, bring that man brick come here, and he's just like you take off like a little bad little kid.

Rob Live.

Said Marvin Harrison Jr. Does not mesh well with Kyler Murray. He needs a different quarterback man to show his real potential. Hate to see his early years go to waste to waste. I mean Kyler was, he was Rookie of the Year. He's been to the Pro Bowl. I mean Kyler throw it to him. I mean, damn he dropping. I mean yeah, he tripping. Whoever said that is tripping. He's getting all opportunities he's supposed to get.

He's playing with a quarterback that's good enough, that is getting him and throwing in the ball, high volume balls. He's getting opportunities. He just got to make the most stuff right now. You ain't got nothing.

To do with the quarterback.

That's it money making taste. Say what an old shoe? Can y'all give a birthday shout out to my brothers, the Anthony D. Woods and Damian Pumpkin Wooden wooting. I'd appreciate it. We absolutely can, the Anthony D. And Damien Pumpkin. I got an aunt.

Who just.

Pumpkin call it punkin.

Happy birthday, bro, your brother wanted to wish you guys a happy birthday. Hopefully you did something fun today with out with your family, friend and some loved ones. Got an opportunity to sit around and be thankful another day, around another year, around the sun man. Somebody didn't get an opportunity to see their birthday. Somebody had an appointment they couldn't reschedule. So every morning that you wake up, that's another day to be thankful in anything that happens

Damn you.

Hey, that's such a gym too. When you that gym, that's a gym you use every so often.

Some people had an appointment that they couldn't reschedule.

Could I'm using that tomorrow morning. That's gonna be my first that my first tweet.

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Doctor Frank Albellaman said, Chat, I don't want to hear from y'all. Hear y'all say foot or ball. If you haven't voted for my guys for the signal of Ward, get on them, Doc. We need to win these ward. That's what that's what OO. I got to make sure you know what Chat, this is what I'm gonna doing. Make you guys a promise if we win the war. I'm seeing the O yo, the ward as soon as I get it. As soon as I get it, I give y'all.

My work about one thing about God. God is good all the time. And I don't know what kind of call y'all driving, But I know who got my will, I know who behind my will.

Shoot. I'm finna get, I'm fin to get my gifts.

Pat Doves said, you called it last night. All that coffe o yo was doing last night. Look at him now, ps, this is a good week to have pride or playmaker O bad pride. Pride got uh pride got college football? He got call get Colorado Red?

Who they playing? They playing?

I don't know who they played this who they played this week? B Why you? I think why? Yeah?

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Good? Yeah, absolutely they're.

Good, uh triple except saying to it, Oh Joe drank some tea, honey, forty eight to ten, forty eight to te you forty eight to ten.

Scold, Hey, that wasn't necessary.

I appreciate, I appreciate the advice on what to do the cure, but I kind of I kind of like my voice this deep.

I think it's sexy and I wanted to stay as long.

Yeah, Quentin Mobley, no uncle, you're say oh you over there sniffing and coffin.

Now, now, I told y'all.

O, your guy're going to do with that anything anything going over there with you?

That that's that's on you. They ain't got nothing to do with me.

My science is acting up.

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I got him, I got him. I've been made that call already.

We're good.

Yeah, made that.

Then we tapped. Then we're good.

We're good.

Tyler Hamilton said, Hey, my pops played against you in college. Your name was Millard Hamilton. He played for the Bills U New York ninety one to ninety three. I'm from the country in the South Carolina. I got a look a look at that.

They beat us.

We ain't beat the We didn't beat the Bulls Bills, not one time from ninety one to ninety three. So ain't no sense to me hold of you. We didn't tell g said my birthday and Sunday, I'm going to uh going to the Monday night game at Mile High. All I want to do is put forty on the back. Imagine that happy early birthday. But uh, that's what I want to another forty eight.

Ten, happy, happy birthday. But that ain't happening. I can tell you that right now.

Uh M Mike Banks, Jayward Knight is coming up. Birthday twin we pulling out fifty nine hundred and one at Tessy.

We're paying back.

Matter of fact, A matter of fact, we ain't going to Teste's on a birthday. Were gonna go to booby Trap. We're gonna go to booby Trap going that thing and you know we're gonna throw them one by one slow motion.

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Dionni Go said, oh cho out here sounded like Lil Wayne.

Nah.

I'm oo A bag on head, A bag on head said, I just want to say thank you guys. You weren't just amazing players. You bought entertainment excitement to the game. You were both musty TV. Thank you very much. I appreciate that. JJ said, Oh Jo, give me some less FC twenty six I just started watching soccer and playing FIFA in FC.

You got a long way to go.

Boy. He want some he wants some lessons.

I'm twenty years in man.

You got to matter of fact when you buy the game and give you a whole to toilet on how to play.

Oh, I guess he don't know how to play? Then?

Who now you give you the toy on how to play when you're bias? So you don't even need no lessons from me.

But I'll be here when you need jazz work.

All right, guys, thank you so much for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. I'm your favorite UNC Shannon Sharp and there he is my partner and co hosts Liberty City's own Bengals Ring of Fame, Honoree the former pro bowler All Pro. He's Chad o Cho Senko Johnson. Please make sure you hit the subscribe button. Please make sure you hit that like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcasts from.

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Tonight.

The Seattle Seahawks get a tough division win on the road twenty three twenty over the Arizona Cardinals to move their record to three and one, and the Cardinals fall to two and two.

Seattle wins thanks.

To a walk off field goal Myers missed early, but he redeemed himself kicks a fifty two yarder as time expires as they win twenty three twenty. Thank you guys for joining us. I'm unk, he's ocho. Where off tomorrow night. We'll see you Saturday. Baby joining us