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What would be floating? An alien? Maybe an alien head between some kind of New York skys Yeah, a little UFO, Yeah, an alien on the phone on a landline phone dress between points. Oh, this is a great idea. This is true when when it's just me and Molly, we tend to get silly vibes, We get real silly. We were talking about the DJ sets we're going to be doing at the night Call party tomorrow at Social Club, which

is also it Takes Takes Takes texts. I never know, uh that we both might just play the same Steely Dan song we both heard on Jones Jonesy Supbox last week. We're talking about which is FM? The theme song from the movie FM and the long version and version with the strings. Did you read the Wikipedia entry about the song?

No tell me? Well, it's for a movie called FM, which was apparently a movie about the collapse of free form radio, and but it was like a Hollywood like a shitty B movie trying to cash in on Like that's the story is. It's like a radio station banding together against like the commercial forces, and like, yeah, it

does sound great. I would probably love it. It's like a who I don't know, I got to look into it, but it was like the Wikipedia is like the story in which like the DJ's band together and like overcome the corporation that's trying to like shut down the free form radio station. Like freeform radio had already been like crushed by corporate powers like by that time, and so the Stelia Dan song is just like really sarcastic um

about how radio sucked. After that, you also mentioned that it sounded like the fake Steely dance song from Oh Hello. It does sound a lot, which was in my head for like pretty much ever after we saw Hello testing, I saw a pre Broadway uh staging of Oh Hello. That was that the Margo Margo yeah um, And we

saw like the workshop version and we laughed. So it was best part of that show is when they how frequently they acknowledge what it's like to be at theater, which is like ha you're trapped and you can't get out, and now we have you for three hours. Yea ever we want. That was the funniest part of it was the joke that there are so many jokes about theater and about like okay, like everything gets dark, no spotlights

on me. It was also just weirdly tailored to like all of the things Test and I think are funny because we are also like old Upper West Side crotchety men inside who loves steely Dan. It was made just for us. Thank you, John mullaney. Thanks. Today's episode of Night Call is brought to you by True Botanicals Non toxic skincare that actually works. You shouldn't have to choose

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is sauces. Very important. Uh. We wanted to talk about what are the best sauces, Where where do you fall on sauces? Tests. So listen. I know that Molly, you're not a mayonnaise fan, but you like a oli. Is that correct? It's two. I've made a reli and it's uh. I like it better if I make it at home. Maybe I would even like mayonnaise if I made it at home. There's something about putting it to put it in a jar. But the eggs. I get concerned about

the eggs. I think I thought there were eggs in mayonnaise. There are eggs. I thought there was dairy and mayonnaise a really long time. I also um when I saw Carvel before Carvel came on our podcast a couple of weeks ago, we had brunch and we spent like a good twenty five minutes talking about He was like, you know, like, I know it's not cool to like mayonnaise, but like mayonnaise is great, and I was like, no, disagree, disagree.

He also did something really interesting and good for brunch, which is that he is allergic to eggs, so he instead assembled a brunch out of other sides. So he had a brunch that was like corned beef, hash like a hash brown, and maybe like a pancake. It was like, oh, that is very Yeah, that's it's inventive. It was very It looked like he could make himself a little roll

them up. He also sent me a message yesterday that he was like, hey, I really liked being on the podcast, and he said when he listened to the episode the following week that he was like talking back to it, and I was like, oh, we're getting him in the full anytime. I'm back tonight. Call you are an official. You're the fourth Beetle, you are the fourth fetal Um. I have to say that mayonnaise being killed by millennials

is awful. It's a travesty. Somebody on Twitter recently Um called out the fact that like, when people don't like mayonnaise and they try and put other stuff on their sandwiches, it's beyond disgusting. I think some of the substitutions that he listed, we're hummus on a just sandwich, not a good it's not the right texture at all, and it's not going to compliment what else is in your sandwich. Pasto also wrong. I mean, there were so many things

that just can't replace mayonnaise. I would put all these things on a sandwich over mayonnaise. Hummus. I mean if it's a peda, but what if it's like I would club sandwich ms. Okay, the thought of me and the peter bread just made me like throw up love it and zeki, which is like Mannie's adjacent. So I know, taziki is fine because satziki is yogurt. I have no problem with yogurt. It's just a mayonnaise. So it's the fact that it's not dairy. It's like Uncanny Valley for

a texture. It's like that, it's like gross, It's just gross. How is it a difference from soft butter? If I can taste it, it's like I hate the taste of it. What about tartar sauce, It's that's the exception. That's my thing, A really tartar sauce. If it's in something and I can't taste it, it's like, you know, good direction, Okay, okay, If I notice it, it's bad. I understand. I understand what you're saying. But it's I mean, in a way, it's like how your body is made up of so

much water. Food is made up of so much mannise. But it's like it's become part of the whole like you have to just accept that it's there and that you like it. It's this bias that you have against what mannaise stands for. It's like, no, it's not. It's like literally sometimes all like try something and be like, oh no, there's mayonnaise in this. I'm out like a dip ruins a lot of dips for me. Yeah, I mean, it's definitely better to air on the side. I think

of yogurt or sour cream in a dip. I bet I could make you a dip with those ingredients, sneak in some mayonnaise and you have no idea. I'm saying if you sneak in and I have no idea, that it's fine. If it's in like a deviled egg, yeah, maybe it's fine. Mix up in a yoke if there's something else to like, So if you make it more mayonnaisy by adding yolk. But again it's like something's like swimming in mayonnaise. I'm just like, swimming in anything's a

bad idea. Other than the sauce, they have a dn Tai fung, which is the black vineagar and the soy sauce and the ginger. I'm just saying there's so many other sauces that are better than your sauce mayonnaise, like a spread. It's a spread. Yeah, it's a spread, fair fair, but it's a it's a part of tartar sauce, which is a sauce. But it's hard because tartar sauce kind of a dip. Tartar sauce is like n it's got its own set of rules. Yeah, it's you know, you're

at the beach. Probably, No, you don't have to be the beach deft tartar sauce. What are you talking about? That good inland tartar sauce brings the beach to you. Like, there's no time that I don't want mustard more? What kind of mustard do you like? Just like any kind? Really? Yeah? My parents think I'm crazy because I'm into yellow mustard. I think that's like like a like a hot dog or something. It's trashy people's mustard. They Oh, also, we're

all boycotting Nathan's hot dogs now. Oh why they gave a lot of money to Trump or something. Oh, okay, yeah we are. Um, you know I feel bad. Somebody on the Facebook group Nightcallers, which you should join because it's very lively. Was being like, well, what's wrong with fries? And I didn't really have an answer, because we did we thought maybe there was something, you know, we just assumed that because they're a company, right, we're going to clear the brand for now. I think fries are okay.

I think fries is fine. Um So the five mother sauces, I don't know if you have any feelings on these in French cooking, goshamal, vlute espanol, French tomato, sauce that has a name that I forget. And hollandaise. I mean, are you gonna knix hollandaise because it's too much like mayonnaise? No, I like hollandise. You're such an enigma. I don't know where you're coming from. Half over have it on egxpnedict.

I've made it. I feel like I went through. You can make it in the microwave and it's no no, no, But for real, there's this thing. If you look, it's from like a legit source and you can make the best hollandaise. It's like a white sauce ever, you know, like I like an Alfredo. I don't like alfredo, uh um, I like mustard. The most. I think mustard does the most. Word limited capacity for mustard. I did you turn on

soy sauce? Thought that was your favorite favorite sauce, My favorite sauce, but also ponds When you have pondzo, all of a sudden, you're like, soy sauce is pretty basic? Where do you and catch up? I like catch up okay, but I do not accept any ketchup but Hines. Every other ketchup tastes whack. I don't know why. It's something they're sweetness. The sugar ratios are off on other people's. It's like only Good Hunts is like the worst thing I've ever tasted in my life. You know, when it's

soft brand, it's like Coca Cola. Yeah, it's not you know, you don't want the PEPSI you don't want that? Can I mention for anyone in l A that one of the sauces that I'm really addicted to right now is from Dave's Hot Chicken, and they have like this really it makes your heart race, though, which is like I'm not sure why because there's a lot of salt in it. It must be that, but it's well, I was I wasn't going to bring it up. But yeah, you did.

You you drank a bunch of syce shauce and then you can't really concerned that you were going to die and you I don't know if you can die from over salting. But I'm addicted to Dave's Hot Chicken. And this is not an ad. It should be an ad because Dave's Hot Chicken. It's the best thing that's ever happened to my neighborhood. But um, I was having it

so much. And you you get two sliders and they're huge, and then you get like a bunch of tubs of sauces because you take and take, and then you go home and like fifteen minutes later, you're sweating your heart. There's just a lot of salt in everything good. It's true. I love the Zancou garlic sauce, the Zancou chicken they have that It's like basically the same thing that you

can get a Trader Joe's the garlic spread. But I, uh, I don't get it that much because I will just eat the whole thing and then have like the salt sweat, the salt of garlic. It's a very funky, so good. Oh I went to after this podcast last week, I went to Peta Hut on Fairfax because I was just like, I'm gonna walk around and find lunch. And it was the best place. They had like a huge sauce bar.

It's like a Middle Eastern place is really good. And then they just had a sauce bar that had like the the y he low sauce you you know, Yeah, they salty tangy yellow, salty tangy yellow sauce, the like Herbie Delicious Green sauce and what is the Herby Delicious Green sauce. I don't know, but we'll find out. I think it's all Israeli sauce maybe, and uh and the Delicious Garlic sauce and tihini. And I was just like, this is what I like the most is an array.

I know you like to choose to have an array of sauces. Yeah, well, that's like when you get fried clams and you have the cocktail sauce and the tartar sauce and you can like alternate. I always go for the cocktail sauce though, and that you gotta alternate, yeah, or because the cocktail sauce eventually it's too What if you just alternate with the cocktail sauce and like vinegar vinegar, you need the like I like to like pickly, the pickly smooth, you know what I mean. Get sponsored by

Hines tartar sauce. Seriously, No, Well, honestly, Hines makes the best match up, but they do not make the best tartar sauce. Well, look I'm gonna take you. I'll tell you a really recarch. No I don't make I've tried, but I always want to add old Bay. And old Bay actually doesn't really belong in a tartar sauce. It belongs on whatever you're dunking in the tartar sauce. But it muddies. It's a muddy sauce when you put it in,

when you dunk that in. Um No, I think so Jones Jones on the fancy Jones on Third, or l A Dean and de Luca. They have this tartar sauce that's super good. And one time I went there for a fancy lunch and I got like fish and chips, and they didn't have the tarter sauce. And did you go like Jack Nicholson, I demanded that. I went crazy and I demanded, yes, exactly put it together together. They were like, we haven't made it yet, and so I

was like, I'll wait. But then I waited for like forty five minutes and it became this awful standoff where I was just like I just and it made me realize. I was like, all I wanted was just like a vat of that tartar sauce, just to dunk anything in. She just didn't want the fish. I just wanted to see what else because that condatory dill sauce, which is probably like all mayonnaise if I've never had that, ever

had that? What's that some weird sauce in a jar that my mom got me into because it's probaly some like fifties delight. Um. It's like a dill sauce that you put with fish and it's really good. I'm like hit or miss with dil. Dill is still is what Solandro used to be to me. I will come to terms with slant. I like all the herbs really, yeah. I don't like rosemary. I love rose I'm not into rosemary. It can really ruin if you get like the rosted

potatoes and too much rosemary. Pine Needles, Pine Needles. Listen, We've got bigger fish to fry. We're talking about Drake and Kim. Now, oh, for those of you don't know what we're talking about. A guy on Twitter laid out of theory that um, Kim is Kiki in Drake's in my Feelings, and that Drake and Kim hooked up. Also that the song eight out of ten refers to Drake and Kanye's ninth and ten X is maybe ninth and ten. Think about it, because I'm throwing all this back to

you in a second. Um the lyrics from Drake's verse on sicco mode. That's where the directions between like Drake's house and Kanye's house somehow factor in UM and confirmed somebody drew a map. Here's what I think. I don't agree that kimis Kekey. There's no way, even though her family calls her key and she fucking wishes um because nothing about that song fits with her. It's all about like a down to earth girl who you don't think she's down to earth Molley. No, I do not think

she uh prefers Hennessy to Champagne. I think she just like she's totally Champagne. She is not from the block like she is Jenny and all the other lyric things. I didn't buy any of it. I thought it was they were all reaches. But I also thought it was like a fun journey to get on. It was a long thread, a long, a long, good sort of silly thing to think about. Um, but I also don't rule out the idea that they maybe had sex. All right,

you're taking a very neutral stance on this. Well. The only thing that seemed at all potentially like it made any sense was the thing of like, oh, Drake had the song that he couldn't put out because it would like destroy Kanye, because he he admitted to he was like I have a diss that, like yeah, yeah, And I think a lot of people assumed that it was maybe like outing Kanye and that that was why it like he didn't really sick, because it would have been like a bad, bad look for him to do that,

you know anyway. Um, But then people were saying, no, it's because it was about how he fucked him. And then I like that Kanye called Drake insensitive because he sent purple demon emojis. It's like it since you don't bring the demon into something you don't want that. Do you think they'll comment on it publicly? You know, I kind of think it's all publicity from Drake's. I mean, I think Kim is loving it. Of course she's denied it.

She's I think on Instagram she said like not true, end of story, Okay, And oh yeah, this is like the best thing that could possibly happen for her. Do you think she genuinely enjoys it or do you think she always I think the only thing she knows is like attention. But do you think part of our attention? Um? I think Kylie hates it a lot more openly than Kim does. I think Kim has been she was like probably the first one, you know, so she got probably

the most the most attention anyway, you know. And I think also, you know, she's been a married lady for she's got some kids. Now she's David Mary. You know, she's ready for her like Madam Bovary face. I'm sure you know I can see that happening. Uh, it's been a while. It's time is so elastic when it comes

to the Kardashians, time is elastic. And uh, she's definitely definitely not Kikia songs definitely not about it all right, Well, night callers weigh in, Night Callers wig in to four oh four six night and tell us what you think about what Cam and Drake have been up to or not up to. I just feel like, if Drake we're going to pursue one of the Kardashians. Maybe there's also

rumors she's slept with other Kardashians. What other Kardashians. I think there's a rumor he hooked up with Kylie Indoor Kendall. I could see Courtney, what about all of them? Feel like he and Courtney could really get along. Um. I had a really life of her being experienced where I was at uh the computer store, and a kid asked how to use YouTube and then he was like asked the guy who worked there, like, hey, hey, how do I get to YouTube on here on this free computer?

And they pulled it up and then he typed in a Nicki Minaj video and then when I walked past, he like closed it. You're kidding no, And I was like, oh my god, that still happened. Kids are still watching music videos to get morny in like weird public places and then being embarrassed when somebody looks at it. How old was this person? There's a child? Okay, they were a child. They were like probably like maybe they can't watch it on their home computer, so they really sexy

too sexy? Um, I thought that was funny, puritanical upbringing. I think we should take a night email. Hey guys, not a call nor at night. It's a beautiful sunny day here in Europe. Lucky you, but a fitting night call topic. I think. I just listened to your episode with Darcy who mentioned smudging and getting rid of ghosts. I also just watched the excellent film A Dark Song

about a harrowing but intriguing occult ritual. I'm fascinated, But so far I've never taken part in a ritual, Seancequiji session, or anything like that. Many of my friends did, especially the women who seemingly all had teenage wickens stories. Am I missing out? Did the patriarchy keep me from having a cult? Fund? Have you ever been in some sort of ritual? And what would you or your listeners recommend to start with? I hope my favorite podcasters can help me.

They're all the best Christian in con we were. We've talked about it before this, Yeah, covid, it's because the craft came out. It is we did. Astral traveling is a great way to start astral traveling. Um, we just you know. It's also it's a it's a weird spooky time in your body is spooky mysteries. Ahood it is. You're very powerless and you're just like, oh, wouldn't it be cool if I could have any power at all over anything, just like in the craft. Do you still

dabble in woo woo? Um, I'm not. You were just saying you did tara reading. Recently did a tarot reading on myself. You know we're Californians. Yeah, um, I waver. You know because you've been to some witchy parties. Yeah yeah, oh yeah, I went to a witch party, like last week I was trying to draw, went to a moon ritual. I would just think I have a very high tolerance for stuff like that, especially when it's done with a

sense of humor. I think it's like, the more humorless it is, the more likely I am to not be into it. Also, if it costs money, then it's probably bad, is my feeling about those things. But you also seem to remember much of the tarot because when I was like, I'm so nervous, he said, well death reverse death test. Elena Smith, front of the podcast, has done some tarot

readings on me in recent years that were great, very great. Um, you know, I don't like seek it out constantly, but if somebody is like, hey, would you like me to read your tarot cards, then I'll probably do it. Garrett, Well, I think I've had this deck since college, and uh, I haven't taken great care of it. So every so often I feel guilty and like sitting in the sun or the moonlight just to kind of like let all

the bad vibes go. Because once I stored it in a dirty purse for like three years and then I found it and I was like, oh, it had like gum on it. But I was like, I can't throw away this deck because then that sounds like a bad idea. In fact, I can probably never get rid of it. What do we do? Burn it? That seems worse? You could probably put it to sleep? What does that mean? Uh? And there's also like a superstition that somebody you're not supposed to buy your own deck, someone supposed to buy

it for you. Maybe someone will buy you a new deck. Well, I have to deal with this one first. I bought this deck. Gets treated me really well, and so a couple of nights ago, I was like, I should bust out the old tarot cards. They've been sitting in a bowl of crystals and uh, and I did and it was and it was great also because it's nice to do something tactile and like think about like the circumstances of life without looking at a screen or even thinking

about anything that exists on a screen. Um. And I I think tarot is a good way to get into occult rituals. Well. Yeah, my first paid writing job was in high school. I wrote for a deck of cards that my brother's boss was designing. I forgot about this. I forget what it was called. But he had like designed a deck of cards and he needed like captions, and I wrote the captions for them. They were like

a different set of like youngie and archetypes. And also he was the manager of like the underground hip hop record store. I want that tarot that, Um yeah, I think I like had one. It was just sort of like it was like a different type of like card fortune telling that he had invented his passion project. Well, a lot of people make their own tarot decks, and I think it ends up taking forever because I think there are seventy eight cards. Well, I think this was

like he had he had just made up his own sister. Okay, so he was really fun. It was its own game. I mean that's a little too loosey goosey, a different type of fortune telling. Um, they have a deck that's like Alison Wonderland base that's really popular. I could see the benefits too, of doing your own deck so that it's like the meaning of the card is more clear to you, beyond just being like a fun way to kind of do a s mr activities of like you know,

doodling around and practicing magic and stuff. You can kind of cheat by like making things more explicit, like easier to read for you. My friend Emma, who's going to be at the night called Live Show, is a magician. Now, she's a magician in training, and she's been doing card tricks with a deck of cards, and man, what if we all get really into card tricks. It's so cool, it's so complicated. Everyone I know who has done card tricks like that kind of magic. It just I'm like, wow,

how did you look so easy? Make it look so easy? I mean there, but there are two different kinds of magic. Well, right, if we're become both kinds, can you do both? Because it's not one kind of like blowing the lid off the other? No, I think one ones like creating illusion and one's like believing in illusion. You're either like a skeptical cynical motion. If one is mayonnaise and one is tartar, Okay, that's fair. Which is the tartar sauce? The witchy one

is the tartars? I think we'll find out. If you have thoughts on this, you can also email us at Night Call Podcast at gmail dot com. Yeah, what is your favorite occult star tests? Probably the same one as me. Well, I love the psychic Yeah, psychic Psychic guy is the best. We were talking recently because I had bought some sage. As everyone can clearly tell, I'm in. I'm in you know,

disarray spiritually somding. Yeah, yeah, I was down you on some Well, now I feel like I have to actually go all the way and like grow my own sage, which will be people why they shouldn't buy, say, which is true. And listen, I did buy mine from a bougie place, but at least it's like an independently owned bougie place. Does that make it batter the House of Intuition? No,

it was wacco It was so planted wacco Um. I mean, I really like those people, but they are doing something bougie by co opting so the bougie you know, spiritual places selling this stage are basically running the mom and pop in there forever stores that are selling It's true, It's true. They are they're taking all the stage there. Oh yeah, that was it is that they're like taking all the resources of at the stage is like being

like pirate pirated or something. I mean, it's being harvarded stage wars like like holy like sacred land maybe, So that was It's a dual edged thing. And then I said, I also feel like it's sold at all these stores that are like gentrifying, botanicas out of neighborhoods, and so it makes me angry on that level. Also because also stage, I was not pleased to the smell of stage. I've I've done it before, and I forget that there's the top scent is like the smoky herbal scent. But then

the under scent is like a BO scent. Well, that's a lot of hippie smells, Palo Santa, that's all the hippie smells you're talking about. You're gonna remind the smell, it's just gonna remind you of Bo because it's going to remind you of like spaces, hippie spaces. Yeah. I don't know, though, I don't really think it was just that association. I think I was actually the smell nog chompa. It just transports me to the Santa Monica third Street promenade and being like twelve and being like, what is

that adult? And now the promenade is so different. Yeah, well, you know, knock Chompa smells the same, It's true, and something snock Chompa smells like adult. I remember you didn't you buy like a weed incense in seventh grade that would have an eighth grade if you're trying to give me where credit, Like she was young, she didn't grade, and you didn't smoke weed yet, but you were like, but I was eager to try this weed incense and freak out my hippie barring. Yeah, I'm sure they would

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first fab fit Fund box. Listen, Molly, you sent me an interesting tidbit about a museum I've never heard of. Yes, somebody, I believe a couple of night callers have sent us something about the vent Haven Museum. It's in Kentucky, in Kentucky, which is a museum where ventriloquist dummies go to die. It's a retirement place for ventriloquism community. And then we were talking about this beforehand, whether ventriloquist dummies are scarier than haunted dolls, and if so, why so they are?

That's what we decided basically, there is so as a fan of The Twilight Zone, usual were like the puppet aspect. It's scarier because puppets like already appeared to come to life sometimes, so the idea that they would like come to life when they're not being manipulated by a human. It's also the expression that ventriloquists make when they when their mouths are closed but they are speaking through their

dummy out. Everything about ventril aquism is a little scary and also, uh, Darcy Wilder's dad has gotten into ventriloquism, and she's been posting a lot of videos of her dad doing ventrilocism that are really funny. And how did he recently decide to get into ventriloquism. That's what all her posts are like, I can't believe this is the thing. Maybe it's her uncle, and I think it's her dad. She's like, he's bringing the doll places. Well, there's that

great Freaks and Geeks episode about ventriloquism. I don't remember one of the best episodes. It's about a kid whose parents are having marital turmoil, and then he like uses the ventriloquist dummy at like a big party for all their friends to like talk about the parents, like marital problems. That sounds amazing, and he's like Dad's having sex with his assistant. It's so cringe e and good. It's a really good episode. There is a lot of good art

about ventriloquism. But I was going to say earlier that what really poisoned me about the Dummies was there were these two Twilight Zone episodes, and I think one of them is called the Dummy, and then the other one is Caesar in Me, which is Jackie Cooper. Uh. But in one of them, it's like the dummy bites the guy the ventriloquist, and then the guys like, I need a new dummy, and he gets a new dummy, and like the old dummy gets mad and then I don't want to spoil the end. Oh, I'm not going to

spoil it. You should watch that one. It's good. And then the other one is I think it's like the dummy is telling this this guy who's broke, and he's trying to like make it as a ventrilo question. He's not that good and the dummies like, just rob a bank, Come on, rob a bank. And the guy's like, I don't want to rob a He's like, come on, do it, and he convinces the guy to rob a bank. And

then the guy eventually gets caught. And there's like the girl who lives next door or whatever, and the dummy then like tries to rope her in and he's like, hey, like I like your hip attitude. Maybe you should no kill your aunt with poisoned darts. So I was just like it. Early on. I was like, Wow, these dummies are diabolical. And in this museum there's nine hundred of them, and they have ones that spit and smoke and do all sorts of crazy stuff. I mean, it sounds like

a very scary place to be. Just a mad convention full of ventrilo quis dummies is very scary. You're making such a strong no face, honestly, and I'm like, you're in the middle of Kentucky and you go there for the convention. It's like a great horror movie. It does. It kind of reminded me of the Black Mirror Finale of like scary museum museum. I like a scary museum but it's true. It's like you don't want to feel

an actual danger for your life. Yeah, and I don't know the dummy Like I looked at a Pinterest board of ventrilo quis dummy is. I'm like, when you see a lot of them, it's really intense. It's no joke. There's expressions, well, how do you feel when you see just a lot of dolls? Not great, but not quite that.

I feel like so many of the things I know about Twilight Zone episodes came from watching Simpsons episodes that made jokes about like Treehouse of Treehouse of Horror, about maybe the Treehouse of Horror, though, is not a ventriloquist dummy. There's got to be a ventriloquist dummy one. We should do a whole episode devoted to Treehouse of Horror. I

stopped pretty early on with the Treehouse of Horror. I don't know why, Like I always looked forward to them because it's legitimately so frightening, and I think probably yeah, well because again, because the Twilight Zone episodes they were ripping on were so scary, like to Serve Man one that one gave me nightmares. To Serve Man for some reason, wasn't that scary to well, the Simpsons were the King and Kotos to serve man one, give me nightmares because

something about King and Kotos is so scary. Uh, give us all your thoughts of Ventriloquist Dummies a two four oh four six night Also, if you're enjoying the podcast, would you please review Ray and subscribe on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and Molly, before we wrap up, do you think we have time for a night call. Yeah, let's do a night call. All right, Hi, a night call. This is Chris coming from Boston. Um So,

I had a question about ghost. Um So, a friend of mine from college has a sister who is a median and sees ghost can communicate with them, even has a little girl um living in her house who died there and she sees them. She can follow them, she

can hear them. Um. But I thought was interesting about some of her stories is that one of her stories involved a scantron test um insofar as my friend's younger sister would show up to her high school and she never had to study for staying scantron test because she could just put her finger over the proper letter and it would get warm on the correct answer. UM. And I assume this was like the little girl giving her the advice. But my question is our ghosts all smart? Um?

Or if some ghost like if you were alive an idiot, do you die an idiot? Um? Or are they all knowing? Um? Just thought this should be on a good discussion topic. I love you ladies, enjoy your day. But I think ghosts are as smart as they were in life. I don't think you've become all knowing when you're a ghost, but there might be something you mean, Like, I do think the vampires tend to be smart because they've lived for so long. Those aren't ghosts, no, but they've accumulated.

But there's something about like if you're immortal, like you accumulate at well, they're old, they're wise. Listen though, here's imagine are like frozen. Ghosts are invisible and they're everywhere. So I don't think a ghost has to be that smart because within a test setting, for instance, the ghosts could easily know what teacher this girl had, go to the teacher's house see her making the test, or go

to the like the E. R. B Enterprises Ltd. And just be like Okay, so like little Cindy is going to be taking this test, like I'm just going to write down on my invisible piece of paper the answers and then it's like it's just access. What a weird thing for a ghost to use their their powers for. I think it's a great thing. Like maybe your sister is just smart. I mean, is it his sister or his friend's sister, the sister the sister. The sister could be smart, the sister could be playing kind of a

long con on you. But I like to believe in ghosts that are helpful that way, study buddies. I also feel like Scantron type tests are all like a scam, So they're scamtrons, Scamtron's um and like what they reward, like you know, they don't reward intelligence. Wait a second, you're talking about a different So a Scantron test is just a multiple choice A T s are like notoriously bad. Yes, the s A T s are bad, but it depends

on who's writing the test. I mean, you can't fault something just for having a multiple choice can't say all multiple choice tests are bad. You can't. Why how could you? It depends on the question. Well, I think they're they're not as I like those open answer tests. Well, yeah, of course you like, because anything you can you can't bullshit a multiple choice tests, so they suck bullshit a multiple choice how I will tell you all the ways because I was an s A T tude. Please tell me. Um,

it's process of elimination, y'all. But I mean there's still a right answer. You're not bullshitting. You're just like finding a quicker. It's easy. There's it's easy to scam because it doesn't it rewards your ability to take the test. It doesn't reward your like intelligence. Right, But I mean any types ghosts are good at taking multiple choice tests. Yes, well it would be really difficult for a ghost to

guide her through. Yeah. I just want to say we can talk about our last topic is the song booed up about a ghost. I want it to be so bad? Have you listened to it since I suggested this and thought about how it sounds like it's about a ghost. Now, I tried, but it was too hard. Give me your thesis again. I just was listening to my Boo by ghost Town DJs, and I was like, oh, ghost ghost Town, my boo and then I was like, I think Johnny, my boyfriend, actually said it. He was like, what if

the song's about a ghost? Well, I like the fact that ghosted has entered the lexicon, like being ghosted. It's such a good and evocative term. So it kind of makes sense that, like boot up, it's like everything now has to be a little ghost Like if the ghost doesn't ghost you, they like stay, they stay. Yeah, it's being haunted. Episte of ghosting is haunting. I love the verb haunt when it's like not about ghosts, you know, like you've been just like haunting this or haunting. That

replaced the term dating with haunting with haunting. I love it. We're mutually haunting. We're haunting, but we're not exclusively haunting each other. Free to hunt, free to hunt wherever we're roaming haunters. Wow, well, just great. This has been a good pot This has been a cool jazz pod, just like we we used to have at Boodie's Booties Jassie Jazz Boo. And we're also so excited to see Emily tomorrow night party. Emily, please don't be mad at us

for talking about sauces for so long. I get ready to talk about you, Calls about sauces. We're gonna do it. Please bring us your thoughts calls, Thank you for listening. Thanks to see you next week.