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The Spirit Who Grills

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An LA Night Call is answering a whole haunt of your Night Emails! We'll hear about sharks, plague doctors, dopplegangers, and what you can do to reclaim Halloween with cookies – albeit not cookies laced with cremains. Call in to Night Call at 240-46-NIGHT This episode is sponsored by: [RobinHood](https://referral.robinhood.com/nightcall/) [Stamps.com](https://www.stamps.com/) (Promo: NIGHTCALL) [Barkbox](https://www.barkbox.com/CALL) Articles and Media mentioned in this episode: Article, Cleveland 19, ["Students Allegedly Baked Cookies with Human Remains"](https://bit.ly/2EzSFok) TV Show, My Crazy Obsession, Episodes "[Ketchup](https://www.tlc.com/tv-shows/my-crazy-obsession/videos/catching-ketchup) and [Mustard](https://www.tlc.com/tv-shows/my-crazy-obsession/videos/collecting-mustard)" and ["Dumpster Diet"](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2929664/?ref_=ttep_ep7) Song, Wilco, ["Theologians"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JVrjBKCWgs) YouTube Video, ["Beaking You To Sleep"](https://bit.ly/2CtwtcU) by Ephemeral Rift Film, [Eyes Wide Shut](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120663/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1) TV Show, [The Real Housewives of Orange County](http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-orange-county) TV Show, Keeping Up with Kardashians, Episode ["Drop Dead Gorgeous"](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8809796/?ref_=ttep_ep3) TV Show, [Kroll Show](http://www.cc.com/shows/kroll-show) [Mushroom Death Suit](https://www.designboom.com/project/mushroom-death-suit/) TV Show, Eerie Indiana, Episode ["Heart on a Chain"](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0569395/?ref_=ttep_ep7) Podcast, The Lambert Account, ["Archie Comics and True Detective"](http://grantland.com/hollywood-prospectus/the-lambert-account-podcast-archie-comics-and-true-detective/) TV Show, [Charmed](http://www.cwtv.com/shows/charmed) TV Show and Book, [The Haunting of Hill House](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6763664/) by [Shirley Jackson](https://www.indiebound.org/book/9780143039983) Films, [Halloween](https://www.halloweenmovie.com/) Wikipedia Article, [Wild Brumby](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brumby) Podcast, North Mollywood, ["Iceachella feat. Brodie Lancaster"](https://radiopublic.com/north-mollywood-GMBYZQ/ep/s1!7d7d4) "Night call" by [4aStables](https://www.4astables.com/). Sound effects by [pishpirika](https://freesound.org/people/pishpirika/sounds/117926/) from [freesound.org.](https://freesound.org/home/)

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It's PM at Melrose Place and you're listening Tonight Call. Hey everybody, and welcome to Night Call, a podcast for your strange days and lonely nights. I'm Molly Lambert and with me in Los Angeles is Damaliyoshida. What what? And as always teslent, we are all in a room together? Um then or not being in a room together. I realized that we all, even probably when we're on opposite sides of the country, bob our heads a little bit when we think that the theme music should be coming

in for our show. Yeah, we do. I for sure bob my head to the imaginary the music. You know you're bombing your heads because we can see you for maybe we should make some like some solar power bobble heads. Oh my god. Guys. Welcome to Nightcall, and you should give us a call at to four oh four six night or email Yeah at Night Call podcast at gmail

dot com. You can also text us at two four oh four six Night if you're afraid of us hearing your voice, and if you'd like to be anonymous, just tell us so we will protect your identity because they're nice are and we got a Facebook group. We do in an Instagram and they're all popping off on Twitter account just across the web. We're sending out strands. Speaking of the Facebook group, UM, somebody posted something that is now making the rounds that I wanted to talk to

you guys about. And it's Cremain's cookies. Um, if you guys are listening and eating, put down what you're eating for a minute. Because in Davis, California, at a UM, I guess it's Da Vinci Charter Academy, a student passed out some cookies to her friends that contained human ashes. Probably pretty clean, though, I mean I can't imagine clean eating clean. Yeah, like, of all things that you could put in your bet, I bet chromines are better for you than like, you know, aspar team. Do you think

they have protein? Do you think they retain any? I bet nuance. It's probably just a carb, right, Is it even a car? Maybe it's just fiber. But though I heard things can get toxic when they get really burnt. Like, isn't the burnt part of toast supposed to be bad for you? Supposed it's a carcinogenic? Well, somebody, anything that's charred small an entire human body is I think average five pounds of ashes? Am I making that up? That's what I think, authority, and I trust you. I believe

it's between four and six pounds. I think women are average four pounds and men are average six pounds of ashes. Happy Halloween, by the way, Happy Halloween yet, But you know works I did? Um? But the kids who ate the ash cookies, some of them knew, some of them didn't. Nine of them ate the cookies in total? Um, would you ever eat a cookie made with how much? Actually a better question, how much? Would you? So? Was an experiment?

Or was this a kid who had been asked to bring a treat to class and had a dead relative that he had to do something with. I think it was like a prank problem. I think it was a problem. Just sprinkle some of those human ashes in your this is I think. I believe the kid was a high school or the conflicting information picturing like an eight year old bringer, I was too something about a teenager that's more believable. But where did they get the cremains? Whose

cremains were they? I believe the grandparents. One of the grandparents cremains. See, that's what makes it sucked up somehow you think if it will who else, I mean what it would be so much worse if it were a stranger's cremine, anyone's crew, your own flesh and blood. Because so he's like, what at the funeral and they haven't earn there and he like sneaks when in the house maybe so yeah, well either way he decides, oh, you know, will be crazy funked up who took some of my grandparents?

Like that's like a little sis. It's bad, no question, you think. He was like, I'm going to put it on YouTube and get like, well guess what it was a girl? Oh my god? That changed it. Yeah, well empowered empowered from so it's basic female serial killers. The police detective said that like, based on a preliminary investigation, they felt like it was a credible thing that happened, but they weren't sure um, but believed based on what the girl said and what the kids that she had

interacted with said that it had really happened. Um, And there was like a boy came home and told his parents about it and they were they were like, it's crazy. She told anyone that it was cremine because she could have has done it and gotten away with it, which is also crazy. That's yeah, you wouldn't get any fun out of that, though, if you were the kind of person who would get fun out of like you would

have to see the reaction otherwise. There was a girl at Tessaized High School who got in trouble for bringing weed brownies to school and putting them in the teacher's lounge, and this feels very like of that kind of well, yeah, in that case, you would actually see maybe some of the effects of your work. I hate to bring up a forbidden topic on the podcast, but one time I was at a party and I ate these chocolate chip cookies and then this girl was like, guess what the

secret ingredients? No, we all know what it is, the condiment that we condent. And then I almost speared. I think it did spewed, so he just felt. This week's episode of Nightcall is brought to you by robin Hood, an investing app that lets you buy and sell stocks, et fs, options, and cryptos all commission free. Robin Hood is a simple, intuitive way for stock market newcomers to

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could definitely but none of those things ever happened. I think it's so sad because I think that if Halloween was a night where you went around and ate cookies that like your neighbors made, that would be the sweetest, the most wonderful, heartwarming holiday. Human experiment. Yeah, does not allow such happy. I think people eat cookies that their neighbors make, but sometimes they turn out to have like

mystery ingredients that you wish you didn't know about. Honestly, I find that at least my neighbors, many of them have strong feelings about any kind of sugar, including cookies, and so the neighbors you have to have some of the some of those and some not those. But it's hard to navigate on Halloween for sure. Oh that sounds impossible. I saw a show once that was called Like My

Strange Obsession. It was like, oh, yes, I know, the parallel show to Like My My Strange Addiction or something, but it was just people that were obsessed with things. It's the best show. There was one episode about a guy who's obsessed with mustard another guy who's obsessed with catchup, and they never meet in the episode what they just show their parallel lives and they both have wives who are like very fed up with them and like, man,

I wish they would be into anything else. For like a moment, the mustard guy like brushes his teeth with mustard, and the mustard guy is like a mustard superior. Sorry to bring it back to condiments that guys like, he's like a mustard supremacist and the other guy is like a ketchup supremacist. I have an issue with this. There's only one kind of ketchup that's worth its salt, and that would behind ketchup and every other ketchup is I'm

team Mustard for sure. But there was another episode of this show about a person who was into dumpster diving and was obsessed with dumpster diving, and they foraged a meal and then invited over all their neighbors and friends, and then everybody ate the meal and then they were like, guess what all that food came from the trash and everybody had different reactions. Whatever, they all have to get

over it. It's fine, we should all be dumpstered. Wait wait, was this was this captured on film in the show. I'm gonna watch it so hard. Oh, it's just amazing because it's like everyone's enjoying it until they find out just from the dumpster and then they're like social conditioning kicks in and they're all like, oh, no, is this on any I think? Okay, I whatever. The people who were mad about it can go from You just should be given a choice, Yeah, you should. You should be

given it. I know. I'm just like, I'm such a freak about like not wasting cookies. Is you should be told beforehand and given a choice, and then it's a fun it's a fun and how event at your school. Not like I thought it was eyeballs. I thought it was Peel's grapes. But guess what it as eyeballs this time? We Um, we want to take a bunch of night emails slash calls today on the show. Yeah, speaking of

spooky Halloween spirits, we have a backlog and ghosts. Yeah, I wanted to return to the topic of whether or not Jesus is a ghost and um, we got a night email from our friend John the Theologian. Theologian, I'm very much the amateur when it comes to all the religious matters on this podcast. It's because there's a willco song. John wrote, I'm a professor of theology and the Twin Cities of Minnesota I want to try and answer your question from the last pot on the Holy Ghost and

whether Jesus is a ghost. There is a word for ghost in the New Testament, but it only appears a couple of times. The Greek word is fantasma, and it means something like specter, apparition or ghost. It occurs on both occasions in different versions of Jesus walking on the water towards his disciples in a boat and they think they have seen a ghost. They are terrified and cry out, but Jesus tells them to have courage and not be afraid.

The ghost and holy ghost is related to the German geist spirit, but we do not tend to use ghost any longer to mean spirit, which is why the common English translation is now holy Spirit. The resurrected Jesus has some of the characteristics of a spirit, but also elements of his physical body, since he can grill, fish, eat, and retains the wounds of his crucifixion on his hands and feet. Straightforwardly, the resurrected Jesus is not a ghost to my mind, but this amalgam of human and spirit.

Thanks for your pod, but Molly, please do not hail or some in Satan anymore. It scares me. Agreed, John, I've been saying, Um, I love that email. It's like very it's very informative. Yeah, we also edited down. There was a lot of information that was really interesting. I can post it just because I think I always assumed that the reason that it was spirit now in most translations and not ghosts is because like to not scare

kids or something like. I feel like a lot of aspects of a lot of religions gets like some of the weirder parts sort of like stand it away in different parts. My favorite thing is that like angels or like not, like a lot of them are like described as like being actually terrifying headless things with like a zilian eyeballs all over the wings and stuff. And I'm like, that's cool and metal as hell, and that should be the dominant I do when you imagine an angel, now

you're automatic imagination. Should he Star had a dark fantasy novel about cool angels with eyeball when Yeah, yeah, So I figured that the ghost thing was just one of those things. Anything that seems like a holdover from paganism is always a chill part of Christianity. I like the idea that Jesus is a spirit who grills in. I love that that was the example of what makes the

human as you can grill and eat fish. Imagine if you were like haunted by a spirit that was like a benevolent spirit, but that for dinner became not entered its material to digest exactly. Yeah, it sounds like a lot of people's dream relationship. I feel like this is like a common question, but I feel like nobody has ever answered it properly for me. But what happens if a vampire eats food? Doesn't just hang out inside there for a long time. No, they don't, but what if

they did? But sometimes I feel like in some things they do eat food to like like act normal or something, and like it's disgusting to them or like or there's no no sensation whatsoever. I imagined like a stomach that's just a dead end. And maybe that's when the Jesus goes. You think about so you're saying us, the sandwich never goes the sand which becomes a vampire? Right? Do you think it turns into it like liquefies and turns into

tears and sweats. Maybe it's supplies. It's what makes them like Sparkling could be there, sparkles, little sandwiches, liball, Yes, exactly. I know about mythology. That's how it works. How it works. Today's episode of Night Call is brought to you by bark Box. Bark Box is a monthly delivery of innovative toys and all natural treats for the dogs who really deserve them, which is all dogs. Let's be honest, because dogs rule really quick story of the World's Best Dog.

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link that was so scary, so scary. Okay, Hi guys, love you guys so much, best podcast ever. You're welcome, Naomi, Thank you. Watch this a mr video of a guy in a plague doctor costume, which you probably know is like a mask with a beak beaking you to sleep. Very cool and thought you guys would enjoy if you haven't seen it already. He also did a video of a health exam in the costume. I can't stop watching.

With a link that we will, we can maybe throw in a little bit of audio here, Yeah, live audio. It's so scary. Are you pulling it up and pulling it up so it's gonna hunt you? That is so very good. Don't be seeing you. It's this time once more you're baking. I feel I have not already done, so make yourself most pools. What the pick? Okay, and that's enough for a while. Um I don't know what beaking you to sleep means outside. I don't think that would think that would not anything me to sleep. Um,

that would keep me awake. It's like a hundred and seventy four thousand views at time of recording. Um, there's another one that's got a million. That's the plague. Patiently, there's a burgeoning subculture. I mean this is a good if you wanted to create like a constructed urban Internet urban legend or like creepy pasta type thing. I feel like Plague dr A SMR is pretty good. Well also because when you guys tried to put it in, it came out as like a phone number for both. We

should try calling the phone. No, you know, I'm pretty sure that it was. When I forwarded the email, I was also looking up a spam call and it ended up pyperlinking. But do you guys know what those like what the mask is from, and stuff like why people wore those masks? Why don't you tell our listeners? Okay, it was because I just looked it up. I'm not

going to Um, they weren't actually doctors. They were like the kind of like moonlighting doctors who weren't totally certified, uh, treated patients with the bubonic plague, and so they would wear these giant beak masks that were filled with like different herbs and you know, things that smelled good because the smell was what was thought to transmit the plague. So he's he's being a plague doctor a s MR.

Because he's wearing his creepy anti plague mask. Yeah were they This one looks like it's leather though or skin, just like a fetish item for people that are into like steampunk, right, plague steampunk because they're so creepy looking. And there's one in Yes, I feel like most people associated with Ice wide shut now in our modern era, which because I turn you associated with a sex cult. Yeah, it is a kink object. I don't know. Yeah, they

were like what is it? They're like Venetian masks, and it's a mask representing this thing everybody would know about of the plague doctors. Uh, and then we all associated with ice Wade shuts. The lighting in this video and the perspective is what also just makes it super scary. Well, all you see is the beat, you're getting beaked. You are.

Masks are terrifying. Masks are the worst. This is what I'm saying when we were talking about scary things, like I can't think of that many movies that scare me, but person in a mask, that's a lot of them. Well, yeah, like even just when Tom Cruise shows up in his Max because he has like the tragedy mask like looks like which I and it's so scary. It's so scary that there's a face on the outside, but it's not the actual face. I don't know what it is. It's

just the scariest thing in the world. You're afraid of being tricked. I am. I'm afraid of I'm afraid of people's That's the most interesting thing to think about, though, the scary mask that everybody wears. Man, it's on your mask, on your face. No, it's weird too, because it's like there is a thing where like when a face becomes too mask like, it's scary. Certain people have made their faces look more like masks and it's become sort of

like like do you mean future human diamond Chris Janner. Well, I mean that's the thing is like, what at what point does it become like it crosses the on Canny Valley until like that's not exactly what a human faces. Yeah, Like I had this idea for a short film that would just be about like the creation of you know, the opening titles of a housewife film they say their name and their catchphrase for the season. But like the idea a housewife film. Did I say a housewife film?

I was like, yeah, yes, um no, but like like the idea of like a woman who's on one of these shows and then has had so much work done since filming that part that like she's going in to approve that and like do her like voiceover for it. Uh, but like she doesn't recognize herself and the image anymore or something. Yeah, I've been watching Real Housewives of Orange County, which is the scariest and worst but also like interesting bad of all the Real Housewives. Did you just call

it the scariest? Yes, the Trump voters, Yeah, Orange County. Um. But it's also the oldest in the franchise, which means they're now dealing with mortality, which is also so weird. How old are that? Oh? And to bring it back to mains, I told you guys about when I was keeping up with the Kardashi. That's where I brought it Chris check. They did a whole plotline about Kim wanting

to become a mortician. That was actually a good plotline where they went to do makeup at like a funeral home and she was like, are we going to do makeup on a dead body? I don't know if I can handle it. And then it's like a person who plays a dead body for you to do makeup. So it sounds like Kardashians is just becoming cruel show. Now, Oh, it totally is the house over here. I don't At first, I didn't know what to think about putting makeup on a dead body, but then I said, I'm just gonna

second and go for it. It It turns out putting makeup on dead bodies is my passion and I love it. You know, they did like a contour on the dead body. She was like, it's amazing you can make someone look perfect for their afterlife forever. The other thing was Chris Jenner finding out about a thing where you can have your cremines made into a diamond, and she was like, should I do that? I'm saying I would do That issue inevitably was that she was like, I have too

many relatives and I'd want them all to have one. Oh, and they'd all be beaten down the door for some of that Chris Jenner Haunted Diamond. They were like all into it. They were all like, oh, you could become a diamond, Like, let's all be diamonds when we die. When you think about it, almost anything is better than the kind of prevailing to popular options. You know, like you want to you don't want to just be like

sitting in an urn waiting to become cookies. You don't want to be like in the ground taking up all this real estate. They could be like and all your chemicals leashing into the reaching out. Um. Do you guys know about the mushroom bag? No? Oh yes, because General Mlini got into it. It's called I think it's called like the mushroom death bag. I know about this because David met the woman who invented it at a at

a festival somewhere. But it's supposed to be just like a zero footprint um burial method, because you know, if you just bury a body raw, if you raw talking, that's actually really bad too, because like our bodies have all sorts of stuff in them, Like it's not like just I don't know, putting your dog in the backyard or something, Well, that's not supposed to be good either.

I don't know what you're supposed toning you're supposed to I think usually when you put down your animal, like they suggest cremation, right, Um, So the mushroom death bag is zipped up like body bag that you're put in, and there are like spores in the material of the bag, and so when you're buried, they basically eat you. Um. Smart so that there's no don't maggot seat bodies anyway.

Isn't that what really happens to bodies in the ground supposedly, I think eventually, yeah, But I think first it's all your good kind of Yeah, you have a lot of I was really into mummification always sure. That always seems like a like a great So I think it's a

fantastic a biodegradable bag, like the whole thing. It's like annihilation. Yeah, that's weird because I was going to be like, what about just like planting everyone's bodies in a grove you can go see, Yeah, mushroom death bags see your dad friends, that would be weird. I guess, yeah, I don't know about that. Oh you mean like, oh, when you grow into a tree. Oh when you know you mean the annihilation treat people? Yes, yeah, death suit. I'm sorry, it's

a death. I would like to be eaten by mushrooms because then you'd be like a mushroom. What kind of mushrooms do you think they are? They like edible? Could this become another then somebody eats it and gets your personality? Yeah? Yeah, which is what I thought the Cremine's cookies were going to lead to. There was a really good erie Indiana about a girl getting a heart transplant from a kid who dies in their class, and then she becomes the kid who she got the heart transplant from. When you're

a kid, that's the only thing that makes sense. But also when you think about yeah, like the like you know I transplant and then you're seeing things through it makes no logical sense, but like as a child, you're like sure, of course, because it's their eyes. It's in your head. Guys, would you like to hear a spooky

tale from producer Rachel? Yes? So this night email comes from none other than our own producer Rachel, who says, when I was nineteen, I worked at a grocery store as a cashier, it was always cold, so I was wearing a hoodie and it was really cold, so I had the hood up. A customer sidled up to the counter, a middle aged man, but he didn't have anything to buy. Instead, he said, where's your bag. I had no idea what he was talking about and gave him a look. He

asked again, where's your bag? And I thought he had left bags at a different cashier and had come back for them, and then that was what he meant. But he said again, where's your bag? Come on, let's go. Finally, I took down my hoodie and said what. Immediately he recoiled, muttered, you're not my daughter and slink off back into the store. No word on why he thought his daughter would be behind the cashier's counter, but it was definitely the weirdest

story I've ever experienced about a mistaken identity. And I tell this story to anyone who insists they know me but who I've definitely never met before. Stay spooky, Rachel, I find the thing that that thing of when somebody uh is like you look just like something I know. I that is the number one conversation killer of all time, especially because it's usually the first thing that somebody says to you when they meet you, and there's nowhere to go after that. Yes, exactly, no idea what to say.

I would love some advice from people if they know what to say. If somebody says you look just like my friend Beth, I always say like, I am your friend. It's me. She says, Hi's that just happened to me? A traitor Joe's the guy said. He asked if I was from upstate New York, and I was like, not really. Sometimes it's just a pickup line. Sometimes no, no, But he was like, like, you have my friend's face. Well

we've been talking about yeah, exactly, it's in the air. Oh. We actually got another night email about voiced appelgangers Emily. Emily has a voice doppelganger. Right, hey, night call. It's funny. Emily mentioned that she's never been presented with a doppelganger because her voice, specifically her laugh, reminds me of a friend's voice. I even texted my friend about it back in February. The similarity between the voices is sort of uncanny, because it's not that Emily and my friend have the

exact same voice. And laugh. It's more that when I'm listening to Nightcall and Emily laughs, I have a brief but distinct reminder of my friend. It's like they are somehow linked in the spiritual realm. Two ghost that's us, the two ghosts. Thanks. Um. I wish that that person would call in so we could we could hear yeah, if you're our doppelgangers or voiced. I did a podcast I did a while ago. I forget what podcast of mine.

It was with Shelby Faroh, and I felt like she and I it was like talking to myself kind of. We talked about Archie a lot, and I was just like, it was like that Jeff of like the two Spider Man's pointing at each other. Just wait, like all the same things. Um, what's up, She'll be Come on Niccall, come on Nightcall. Talk about Sabrina. I'm so excited for Chilling Adventures of Sabrina. It's like the only TV show

I care about. We were talking about that with somebody at the film festival this weekend because we were like, we're excited about Suspiria, but also like we want the light version of it too, we want version No. I'm so excited for that. I also I've heard good things about the Hulu show Light as a Feather. I don't know, apparently like a like a craft knockoff TV show about girls who play light as a feather and spooky things happened. Anybody watched the new Charmed No, I think it just started.

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do it. Emily, I'll watch it. I don't know anything. I've never watched any version of it before. I was saying, I like the Haunting version, which is notable for having really bad c Neeson. Kathains Zada Jones is like a hip, bisexual, cool person in a great code. Yeah, that's kind of and then Owen Wilson is like the doofy comic relief and then he gets his head chopped off by a statue. And I would like watch it on TBS all the time up to that part and be like, Okay, um,

it's great. It's a great book. I was saying. Shirley Jackson is one of my favorite people ever, really cool, good writer, and I'm glad she's getting more adaptations of things because they're all really good. She's a really good novel about a family that's like left alone and think they're a doomsday cult, like a rich family. It's called the Sun Dial. It kind of reminds me of Hereditary

in some ways. It's like this creepy family, like isolated from everyone, and then there's a storm that sounds perfect. We will have more important Halloween programming over the next couple of weeks, but please give us recommendations of things that you think we should check out at two four four six Night or a Night Call podcast at gmail dot com Um. Haunting of Hillhouse has been endorsed by a couple of you, So we're going to do that, but we want more things. We gotta do what we

gotta do our Halloween deep dive. Oh yeah, I need to go and I need to watch them all because I've only seen the first one. And Halloween three, which is the scariest Halloween that has nothing to do with the other ones, is about like a mask that you put on your face and you can't get it off. Things are the scariest thing. It's like a toy company puts out these masks, these like have free Halloween masks and then the kids put them on and they like go to your face and you can't never get them off.

That terrifying. It'll make an imprint in my face. This can be part of our Girls in boots is scary movie. Readboot Someone was like, it's Halloween. I wonder if they're going to do the girls in booties. We are always booties and always We have one more night email that we want to read before we uh right off into the spooky sky. Um. This is from Rony in Australia and she says it's currently oo to one in Sydney, which is very Australian and uh. I just drove from

the South coast of Sydney to the city. It's about an hour and a half and it gave me time to catch up on two of your podcasts. I'm currently at the Pablo and Cheese episode. I love a good night drive with podcasts. That's good. She has two questions. What. I recently turned thirty and I received a swim with the Sharks Aquarium voucher for the Sydney Aquarium. I've grown up surfing on the South Coast of Australia and now

Sydney most days, and I'm terrified of sharks. I freeze and grab onto my board when I get a freaky feeling out the back when I'm solo surfing. It usually drives me to paddle into shore. I'm not sure whether or not I should cash in this voucher. I need your advice. Well, either freak me out even more and I won't go into the ocean, or will it help me overcome my fear of sharks. I'm worried I will also freeze up and be like a floating starfish on

the surface of the shark tank. Also strongly against animal captivity in any form. Help and number two in relation to culing hippos. We have a similar problem in Australia with wild Brumbies horses that aren't native to Australia and they were brought out here during the captain cook time I presume, and now they're destroying native flora and fauna, especially in our national forests. There are four and against arguments for the culling of these animals destroying native life

and plants. Are not killing an animal that has become super iconic to our snowy Mountains region. Please weigh in and yes we have snowy mountains in Australia. Banky face, happy night call, thank you, RONI too good eat nine emails in one Um, do you guys want to start with the shark tank? I would not swim with the sharks. Putting it out there, I wouldn't do it. Yeah, I wouldn't do it either. I feel like why because I feel like if you're already surfing, you probably are already

swimming with sharks. Isn't there something about like actually being just being able to see them that would be different? Like I I know what she's talking about. Because like even when I was just in the cape like earlier, this earlier, this summer, and I'm not I don't ever think about sharks. I don't think I have a particular

like phobia or hang up on them. But at one point I was out there and then I thought for a second about sharks, and then I was like, oh God, there's like a shark, you know, in every corner of this kind of inlet here, like they're all waiting for me. I don't think it would help. Um, I don't think it would tame any fears, if you know, because it's such a different scenario. Those kinds of those are like

tame sharks. Yeah. And also I really I find it so depressive and those I mean, after after Blackfish and everything, I was like, I just don't like the where I draw the line is like we have a science center out here where you can do the touching tank, and it's like it's starfish and stuff. I'm kind of okay with that. They kind of cut things off at a level where I can deal with it. They're not like

mammals or like giant fish. Um, but I feel like if you if you do that, that might karmic lee, or like the plot of your life might somehow involve sharks after that in a way you don't want. I feel like it might just be depressing, which, on the one hand, might give you like more empathy for sharks in the wild. Maybe they should be able to eat. Well, they don't really eat people though, the thing. It's like they just bite them. Yeah, and it's it's like by accident,

it's not on purpose. So it's not like sharks are malevolent towards humans. We just project that on them because they're like beautiful, prehistoric monster looking things. It's an interesting gift for somebody to give somebody that is like that without it being asked for. It sounds like, Yeah, I also just think it's cool that you serve all the time. Yes,

I would like to learn to serve me too. Guys, what do you think about the Wild Brumbies which is also the name of our folk album Nothing more than Australians Slaying On North Mollywood. We had Brodie Lancaster on and she taught us about shoe ease, which is an Australian slang for a thing where you like make your mates drink a beer out of their shoe, right, on a dare. That's awesome. If I were going to move anywhere, I would be moving to Australia, I think, I really guys, Yes,

I've never been to Australia. I'm looking into it though that that's the longest fight you can take. Like I'm gonna do it and then I'm never They're gonna put like little gyms on on the Quantas flights out there because like just to help people not get deep fainthrombosis or whatever, little little gyms. It's like a slim gym that smaller. Yeah, they decided that was going to be their their their X factor and getting passengers on like

free slop sh Well. I have a suggestion about calling these ponies real quick, which is want to see a Brumbia. Look up the Brumbies, show me the show me the um. But could there not be like a misty of chink a tigue solution to this, because that growing up, I was like I thought the Misty of chink a tige tail was the most ingenious a children's book about a beautiful horse. So's it's true. Okay, they're called the pony Penning. There are these little islands chink a Tigue and as Satigue.

All right, there's wild ponies that live there, but the they were you know, overpopulating the islands and causing issues. So what they do is they swim the ponies to the mainland and it's the big thing, and like people come from everywhere. They auction them off to people who want to breed ponies or have farms or whatever. You know, they give them like veterinary care, They do counts of how many there are, and then they send back a

sustainable population. And so Misty was one of the you know, ponies that was penned or whatever and then she became but it was like a I think Misty was a true story. Definitely. The pony penning is a real thing. But could you not could there not be like a pony penning situation where you round up the wild the wild brown vies. It never gets not. They do fertility control as the main population management method. That's viewed as

the most humane. Uh, but it's also like this is human being's fault, you know, yeah, exactly, so we have to fix it in a like good way. They're so cool. It's like, what do they look like. Let's see if they're just there their horses. There's kind of little their regular horses that they brought to Australia from like England, and then they got wild, they got lost and became feral, like cool, free running tribes of horses. But it's bad

for the environment because they trample stuff, trample stuff. But just the image of like beautiful like herds of like freerunning wild horses just another selling point to move to Australia. I know Australia has its problems too, but it's like many many problems, many many many problems. That does it for this week's Now, thanks everybody for Thanks everyone for listening. Don't get eaten by a shark, don't eat cookies with cremins in them, don't get trampled by a brownbie, don't

get trampled by it. But make regular cookies for your friends to celebrate the holiday, and you know, have a nice time, and don't worry about types of sugar and you don't need to Thanks for letting us speak you to sleep O

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