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we ready to be old old? As we're in time with the thank you next video? The Ariana ground Day video. Very popular, I've heard, very popular, very internet bait. E um not my favorite. Why well, you guys know, I don't like two thousand's nostalgia. It's too soon. It's not that it's too soon, it's that it sucked at the time,

and why would you be nostalgic for it? That's all nostalgia though, it's like editing people that were like into the whole, like like the Brittany Lindsay Paris years, like just even at the time, I was like this is garbage, like who cares about I don't know, like none of I don't know. I like Mean Girls. Everybody likes me and girls. I like that she made herself for Gina George instead of Katie. I thought that showed some self awareness.

I thought it was like, you know, Ariana can do this is like maybe like her her heel turn a little bit. Maybe, um, because she can started like she cast herself as the bitch, which is funny to do. Um, it shows kind of I mean, it made more sense than like when Taylor Swift did it, like she was better at it, being like I'm the bitch and the

group of girls not. I actually don't mind the odds nostalgia and I understand it especially for like maybe Arianna's core fan base who didn't actually live through it as like adults and uh and maybe you know, have more of a rose colored view on it or like, oh, I wish I would have been an actual teen when Mean Girls came out, which is just like hard to fathom I think for us, but um, because I was probably not even a teenager anymore when Girls came out.

I can't remember. I was in for free and it was great, but but so my main issue with it is twofold one, the song which I think is a move off book for Ariana that I think is bad. Uh. It is of Taylor Swift like like self mythologizing, like work out who I'm talking about stuff, which I think is just like petty and not something she usually does. She makes it so easy though she actually says that, ye,

well that's what Taylor does a little bit too. But there's that, and then also I just cannot stand and Taylor has been doing this for a while now. Everybody does this, but Taylor's maybe done it the most egregiously. But I hate the movie reenactment music video. I think it's so stupid done. Well, I'm trying to think if there's a counter example of like a movie. So that's the most most recent famous one again like kind of what this teen movie nostalgia was, the fancy video, the

clueless fancy video. There's a not as seen oh man, and now I'm trying to remember, Oh, it's like an E d M video for like a song that I happened to Like, that's like a Thelma and Louise re enactment that I stumbled upon because I was trying to find I think I've seen that video that's a video. It's beyond music video. It it's a yeah, and it's just like a beat by beat, like just not Theelma Louise,

but just let's do Thelma and Louise. And it just feels like kind of I mean, sometimes it works in moments, but I just think in general it feels like kind of an empty gesture in most cases, like I don't know what what's new being brought to the table other than like get this, like you know what this is. Somebody on Twitter was like family Guy ruined culture because this is just the thing where it's like, hey, remember this thing, Yeah, here's the thing. Remember to referential or

just like without adding anything to it. Yeah, I think you can be referential. I think that right now we're kind of in a weird nostalgic impression because we're still getting a lot of eighties nostalgia stuff, um with stuff like Stranger Things and that kind of thing, and then still kind of lingering on the nineties and now the odds stuff is really kind of I mean, I'm mad because we skipped over the turn of the millennial millennium entirely.

We never really did the late nineties, we're going straight into mean girls, and I feel like that's the best stuff. Did you want, like, I can't wait, I know, no, I wanted like, um, I don't know, I I maybe maybe because I have no idea, I wanted more like white two K stuff. I wanted more like well, I want to say that the other videos from this Ariana Grande era have actually been really great and original and some of the best music videos for a million years.

So I thought, especially the No Tears Left to Cry video kind of was like a amazing why two K video almost in that sense where you're like, oh, it's like you're trying to recreate anime in music video form um. And I liked the God as a Woman video, but those are both like, you know, I feel like she's both earned the right to do this and also it's tackey. I don't know. I think it's I just feel Peter

Kid ship. It's just like YouTube ship, you know, like when somebody breaks up with somebody and then they're like extremely performative about how over it they are, Like nobody who's really over it is like this performatively like over it, you know, and that's all that that song and video is and it stresses me out. Well, it's weird too, because it's like it is like, hey, I'm taking all the advice everyone's giving me about like not jumping from

relationship to relationship and like learning to love myself. But I also, I said this on Twitter, I pleased with Ari. Now I predict she'll be dating Geezy by New Year's Really, that's my prediction. She can't resist pull out a tall, tall bag. Yeah yeah, I hate the thank you next video. I'll go ahead and say it. I'm a Miranda Sings fan. Wait, is it bringing bring it on late nineties? Is it? Oh?

Yeah it is, Yeah it is? Yeah Yeah. And thirteen going on I guess thirteen going on thirty was when two thousand nobody nobody's nostalgic for that movie except Ariana gon Day. I guess look me too a little bit. Really, Yeah, I watched thirteen going on thirty and how feelings I've ever seen was lost on me because Mark Ruffalo is the boyfriend. It's not a movie without a heartache. Mark Ruffalo is like the mumbly boyfriend, which is what he does best and what he does only Mark about in

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we all were bloggers. So I try to be a little bit like, you know, to refrain from being a hater to hater back again, I don't think we do hate Ariana in general. We like her. We just felt like, I don't know something about the video in the way it was candory. It's just like made to be h it's made to be a YouTube. Well, that's the thing is that anytime anything is so clearly manufactured for popularity, it's really hard to have a you know, kind of

organic response to it. I think, um and especially like the the anticipation of this video was so intense that you were already like bored of it by the time I drop. I think that's just what happens now. It's like this cycle is so much faster, and it used to be like, if you were a huge pop star, you could build anticipation for something like that over like

months or like a month. But personal anticipation is so different from collective anticipation, Like personal anticipation is a real thing, whereas collective anticipation is something that even if you have no interest in a music video, but you watch everyone anticipating it, you become swept along. And then you also sometimes are like, why am I not being swept along with? This particular tide makes you angry? I just I hold Arianna at a high standard, love her, UM, and I

want the I want the best for her. She's a good pop star, she's a great pop star. She's the last pop star. Well, she can't dance. That's the thing that stops her from you know what. Neither neither is the greatest. UM. I have to say, I breathed a sigh of relief when she broke up with Pete Davidson, and I'm just really I'm really hopeful for her. Future, I was you shipped it? Well, yeah, but it's okay. We can talk about it's some other time. We just

we should move on about. Emily pointed us to this really great article in The New York Times by Jenny O'Dell um that probably everyone has read by now. Came out about a week ago at time of recording, and so you know, hopefully people have read it by the time you're hearing this. It's called a Business with No End, and it's hard to even say what it's about. Would either of you like to take a stab it? It's one of the densest things that I've ever enjoyed reading.

I think, guys, I'm gonna be honest with you. I forgot to read it. Oh, I'll explain it to you. The graphic made me be like, what is this about? I have to say some of these, some of the like long reads graphics are really not working for me in general. Wasn't this it's like the Amazon story? Yeah? Yeah. The way that the long reads are being presented now is like you have to have this interruption of like a blinking, like a little mini web page. I find

it very like somehow ancient looking. It's not it's it's

not working for me. So so basically this is just like a very long Internet rabbit hole that begins with the writer hearing from I think a student of hers or something that their parents or their family had been getting these packages delivered to uh some LLC that they had never heard of, like what was it called like Valley Valley Fountain Valley Fountain LLC and um and this you know kind of weird um like kind of predictive marketing and uh like you know the thing where there

for a while there were um all these Amazon stores that would just uh do sort of s e O products that were just predictively created. But then you ended up with all these bizarre things like an iPhone case that had like medical images on yeah, like like I don't know, like this acted legs and stuff on a on an iPhone case just because like somebody just found that people have been searching for that and they decided to put it on an iPhone or nobody decided to

yea yeah. But so she she found that this this company one of many that was owned by this um guy, Jonathan Park, who was associated with this Christian university called All of That University that was in the news recently for being a part of the whole sort of weird thing that brought down Newsweek. It's like such a it's like it's hard to say this this in like distinct sentences because it's just like and then, and then and

then they wrote the story. Yeah, yeah, it's it involves the Ivy Times by because because all of that university was basically the scam where they would bring like students over on student visas to the United States to study quotes at all of that universe, but really they would just be working in a content farm, like doing clickbait for Times. And it was kind of presented as like they were like, oh, it's an incubator for young entrepreneurs.

We're teaching them to be entrepreneurs. Yeah, and they're like, oh, we're like Stanford, which like we have a revenue generator that's not we're not fully dependent on tuition, like we do research, but their research is just like creating clickbait.

And then I guess also creating these stores and and I learned the term drop shipping from from this, which is like sometimes have you ever been on Amazon and you've been looking for something and you see all these different retailers that will sell the space cream to you, and then one of them is like, for some reason, fifty dollars. One of the rest of them are thirteen, um. And that's basically what this is. So drop shipping retailers

don't keep any inventory. They just when they get an order for something, order it from overseas and have it shipped to you. So it costs like three times as much and takes you know, a zillion weeks. But they're I guess they're just praying on the one percent of people who are you know, don't realize probably old, yeah, probably, yea. Honestly,

is there like an advantage to it? Well, no, they make make the money, you know, they make the you know, difference between how much they paid for it and how much you get it for. And they're just kind of playing the odds with Amazon. Yeah. But these companies that are registered and like associated with these Amazon stores. I mean, this is like the stuff where I start to get like feel creepy, like you start to have a weird feeling in your stomach like you do for the entire article.

Because the companies are named like I wrote some of them down bro Pastures yeah, bro Pastures was the best one. Dreamless your friend bart lls um and then the creepiest one is Giggling I. It's like it's like but it's all like upper upper caps, lower caps, upper caps, lower caps. Like. The weirdest part of the article though, is that then there are like brick and mortar stores that are worn out of this whole enterprise that started as like an

online kind of scam. And so there's one called Steven's Books that was you know, and it's all the same group of I think it's Steven's Book though. That was the weird Steven's bookshop. Steven's Books, dot Com and Steven's Book were all the like registered, Yeah, they just registered every single domain. And then there's the actual Crisco where they said the writer Genio Odel was like, I walked in and it just looked like a set for a bookstore, and like the sales clerk was like, oh, would you

like to check out a book? Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot. We're not a library if no one comes in, because it's just this weird front. And did you watch the video of the so so the guy who apparently owns this who's like registered as the owner of that LLC.

Is this like Eastern European guy who's in this video do we like talking about the legacy of Steven's Book And he's Joseph Blanski, it's his name, and he was like, oh, people call me Stevens or Joseph Stevens as my nickname, but it's it's he just bought the company, like Steven's Books as existed. Why do they establish a brick and mortar to make the name legitimate? I guess just to have like a toe hold in reality. But then it's

just becomes this weird independent bookstars profitable. Well, what happened was they buy an existing business, like Steven's Books is like an existing business or something, especially like an older business. They fill it with their merchandise and then it's like, oh, look, it's not fake because it's existed for a hundred years. Because then they're filling around. They're selling like finger puppets or something at the register at Steven's Book, like that

are also sold by and like retinal cream. They're like bot creame and like baby fingernail clippers and like a scary horsehad. One of their most successful stories is called the name starts off, it's like a little more so. Yeah, everything they choose is like so off that it must go science. Yeah. This week's episode of Nightcall is brought

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William Gibson's Twitter, it's just like, what the funk is happening? Yeah, yeah, Well, so this is like one of these things that totally and this is a subject that we I remember being on a short list of south we wanted to talk about when we before we even started the podcast, which was those like um kind of SEO generated YouTube videos for children that are made to automatically all the Johnny Johnny videos and stuff like that, which is now weirdly

gotten to the point where it's like a mainstream meme that Johnny Johnny thing, but but all these horrifying things. So it's like spider Man elsa kill blood like you know what whatever, Like a four year old is trying to type into into the YouTube search bar, and then all the auto plane ones that would come up after that, and that being a weird thing of like what happens when we just let the internet take the steering wheel and uh, and it always ends up being like this.

But but it's but it's like the people who end up being burying witness to this stuff and actually encountering it are either going to be very small children or old people who don't know how to do the Internet, which is very interesting. I with my older kid, um, he was really into like, you know, a bunch of YouTube videos. Say didn't you encounter this firsthand? Yeah? So I mean with with my son, you know, this was like six years ago, like five years ago. I just

had no idea these things existed. So we would be looking at you know, I didn't really like the like unboxing videos, but there were some informative like truck vehicle whatever videos. So it was like, how does a like hydraulic ram or and so it's hard to find a movie like featuring these things. So I was like, sure, let's watch YouTube. But then everyone else whose kids are into like weird niche subjects eventually lands in the kind

of like diabolical YouTube zone. And so I remember when I first saw them, and also there was one called I think Insane Gas, which was um, these like it looked like video game cars and it was just car crashes, but they weren't real, so it wasn't like obviously as horrifying as if they had been, but there was this we can't really tell the difference when you're I mean,

like that means the same thing. Yeah, So I think in a way, other than people who don't know how to use the Internet and children, I think there's this interesting thing of like mostly I think children watch them and then their parents discover them, and like the parents are so horrified and the kids are kind of like

they don't know to be horrified yet. I guess um, which is in a way like its own narrative of about it the other day because he is a kid who started watching the truck videos, and I was like, don't just let the algorithm pick. It's like you should keep an eye on it because they're these weird videos. Well, it's also strange how something that's kind of just not piece together in a thoughtful way can be so disturbing but also the most disturbing, but in a way it

also makes it somehow just it confuses you. You it's hard to know exactly how to react. It's not the normal feeling of being like horrified by something because you can't think about it as like having any intentions exactly. It's the lack of intent that's really kind of breaks your brain. And I think that's like in this article, is the intent to break your brain? I mean, the article does break your brain as your brain hearing you explain it, because it's like it's all logical, but it

sounds like such insane nightmare field. I mean, it just feels like one one decision is made after another that is like made without having thought about any of the decisions that came before. Like it's like, oh, well, we bought this bookstore because we had to, like I don't know,

for whatever. We know what though, It's like it sounds just as insane as like any tech companies like yeah, Strategy Strat, Yeah, we explain it when they're like, oh, we bought this VR company that's unprofitable because we're going to turn it into a teddy bear company that watches your children and sings them lullaby um. But Molly, can I read you like a little piece of this really kind that's legal, but yeah, standing inside it's to read

from a newspaper. Standing inside Steven's Books was like being on a stage set for Steven's Books, Steven's book, Steven's Bookshop, and Steven's book all at the same time. It wasn't that the bookstore wasn't real, but rather that it felt reverse engineered by an online business or a series of them. Being a human who resides in physical space, my perceptual

abilities were overwhelmed. But in some way, even if it was impossible to articulate, I knew that some kind of intersection of all of that university, Gradia, community, community church, ib Port, the Newsweek media group, and someone named Stevens was right there with me among the fidget spinners in an otherwise unremarkable store in San Francisco. It's so mind bending.

The space is really uncanny because it is it kind of just feels like actually feels like a thrift store, like from what it sounds like, like a pawn shop or something. But it's like the whoever put together. The shop doesn't even know enough about a book sort of know how you stacked books on a shelf, because they're all stacked up and down. It's so crazy, it's so creepy, like it's just off by that much. It's like right, It's like, no production designer in the world would actually

like make a fake book story. It's like only like Tommy Wise, oh I shop, it would look in San Francisco. It would be like that. So they have a department story. Okay, yeah, this is my This is like one of my favorite parts of it. But Trinity Place appeared suddenly down in downtown Manhattan in twelve, the same year that Ibport incorporated. That year, Racked wrote about how the department store had popped up to sell brands including Sylvia, Lee, Trollie, Dolly,

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something called Granny Attic bubble foam. Both both items appeared to be made by j n G Korea Co. Limited. Products from Little Martin's Drawer and assa Va were prominently displayed. A sorry assortment of wooden furniture haunted the second floor, while the third floor remained dark, empty and forbidding. Visitors were informed that it is now an event rental space. Where is this located? It's downtown and then in the financial district in the middle of nowhere. Yeah, I was

just gonna go. Like, So that's the cool thing about the article if you look at on On on the desktop is that they do like they kind of show the process of like clicking one name and going to the next and doing like a fine and like, you know, the action what it looks like to go through this rabbit hole of like one corporation after another. Um. And so they do like the thing of looking up uh leaves and doing the Google map street view and everything and trying to figure out what all the stuff is.

Just that weird thing of the the Internet like leaking into real life kind of cans the question. One of the things that I found like most disturbing about this is that everybody involved, for the most part, is part of like this evangelical organization, and I think without that, it wouldn't be It wouldn't have this like weird, sinister thing, not because they're evangelical, but because they're all members of

the same religion and they're all working together. If there weren't any kind of like ideological glue going on, then it might just seem more like that it would just be like capitalism than just it's I think the idea that that's kind of like creepy about it is that everyone's kind of denying their involvement in this and at the same time running and a university that espouses evangelical I feel like there are other like MLM type things that are connected to churches, right, well, yes, and it

makes sense why. I mean, like anyone who a lot of people who are deeply religious, obviously there there's a lot of times sended home with lots of kids. To generalize, not generalized. Shout out also to our friend Jane Murray and her podcast with the dreamt is really great all about multi level marketing. Yeah, the thing we're all interested in. But yeah, that's what I thought this was going to be, was like that the university was a front for multi

level marketing. But it's like weirder because it's like than that and shallower than that at the same time, I think slightly adding to the creep factors the fact that they were like operating out of a former sanitarium. Yeah, state New York, which got us talking about that for a while. Um, that was the one in Duchess County, upstate or like state in New York. I think we've talked about this before. Upstate New York is like the cult zone for the Easterns. Yeah, for people go to

form their cults. When we were discussing this article, um, all three of us thought we were talking about the same deserted asylum that all of that university was trying to buy. And we were all so we had been different ones. We had been to one. We're like, I open to the mental hospital, and all the pictures we shared it looked like they were the same, but they were. Did you guys were talking about to East Coast asylums? Let's clarify which ones those were? So mine is in

my asylum? Is that is in I believe it's Dover Plains on the Harlem Valley Metro North line. It's the one that you passed. I think it's um it's around Dover North so it's Harlem Valley Psychiatric. I think what was your psychiatric hospital that's abandoned. Mine is outside Beacon, New York. Uh. It is called the Craig House, that

Craighouse Institute. UM it is. It's beautiful. I I did a little bit of like sneaking around it, uh because it's like abandoned, but there's still furniture and stuff and little yeah, a little herbic's. Um. It was known for being a place at both Zelda Fitzgerald and Treatman Campodi. Uh spent some time. Yeah when when I only mentioned that, I was like, I don't think this is the same Asyle. Yeah, it's a beautiful bill. It looks like it looks like

the Xavier Institute or something. It's really Yeah, it's like, all bricky, how long has it been abandoned? You know things on the East Coast that just stay abandoned for a hundred years. Baff on me, because well, dude, we have a target in the middle of all sitting a million years. That's true. They're gonna start building it again next year. Well, I was going to say the asylum.

I was talking about the West Coast Asylum in Downey that I've actually never been to, but that is abandoned, and I feel like somebody must have used that for a haunt or something for no it means it seems I feel like maybe I saw that, like Marilyn Monroe was there as a kid or something. Those buildings are

obviously super super creepy. Yea yeah. I feel like of all institutions, the ones that shut down if they're it's a mental hospital, they just tended to sit there unused way more than other things, right, they sit there in use And then you're like, oh, remember when and we got rid of all the nationalized mental healthcare. Yeah, there's stems to remind us that it wasn't good, but that didn't mean we should get it right. There's a way

to repurpose that in a good way. But apparently nobody really feels like it's another just like, oh, scary place. There's um this. I think it was a hospital and New Yorkers can maybe correct me on this. I just always notice it and think about it and feel spooky. There's like a former hospital that's empty that's right before you turn into go to JFK, and I always want to go in there and wander around. Sometimes you can see a light on inside. You're like, that's where I

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that I don't know, that was my thought. I was like, what's up with some of these guys story. What's amazing about some of these is they look like um, the images from those uh traffic what are they called? Like the like the junk links at the bottom of articles, or it's like check to lose weight, yea with holes in it or something this food or this is so

funny you said, the finger with holes in it. I saw a lotus pod yesterday and I was, yeah, lotus pod phenomenon of the internet where somebody photoshopped a lotus pod on into a breast. Yeah, we think we talked about that very very early in this podcast. I think we talked about that. Then I saw the pot and I just like, it's so cool that that exists nature, just a thing full of holes just to give you nightmares.

Well that's what's cool about this Twitter feed also as you're just like, wow, nature is so much cooler than human beings. Yeah, a lot of these fish just have like a lot of teeth. Fish just look silly. They just look like like rejected prop department. Yeah, that's too silly, really looks like. I'm looking at this fish from uh November nineteen. But it's the black scabbard fish. So I think a lot of these fish are really deep sea

dwelling ones. And so when they are brought up, the pressure makes their eyes pop out or like there any fish swim bladder. It like me to sort them. When they're brought to the surface, eyes pop out and they look all like funky. Yeah they look so weird. So they already look weird. The translation in this tweet says, if you think you're not in good condition, this is what happens with the red fish during a quick rise

from the depth. And then you've got this guy with like it looks like a giant like inflated water balloon balloon tongue coming out of his mouth. Oh yeah, it's it's so it's the god um Yeah, like part of me is like, let them be, let them be in the deep sea. Well, it's also they look weird because in the deep sea, apparently they can't like in this

popular science article from a couple of years ago. I was like, wow, it's like I never knew any of this, and it just seems like something where you keep seeing these weird creatures and it never really occurs to be like why are they this way? But apparently they like

food is really scarce, so they're really really thin. They have giant eyes so that they can catch any legs there's like no light, and then their legs are all spindle because otherwise they like sink into the mud at the bottom of the floor, like walking in heels on the sand. Exactly the one that made me so unhappy that I hope good. Yeah on our social Yeah, it's just like nature is so cool and nightmarish. Human being suck. But sometimes, you know, you just when you're a Russian fisherman,

you just find what you find. I mean, yes, and how many of you guys, including me, had the being a Russian fisherman fantasy for like an hour after looking at this No way, no, you know, I just live on a boat. I want to I want to live in the Arctic Circle for like a brief period of time. But I don't necessarily need to find things in the water. I'm cool, just like I'm more fishing. I used to fish when I was a kid, but then I kept um I would either like try and toss them back,

but then be concerned that they would die. And then eventually I had like a bunch of rainbow perch living in aquariums like outside, and then they would fling themselves out of the aquariums and oh my god, oh my god, me real quick? Another half another another testa in animal story. Sorry, I'm at one point I was like I should eat when I guess to try and eat in we like deboned this teeny tiny green book trout and ate him on a cracker and it was like the worst situation.

It was terrible. Um. I saw a really cool lizard at a used bookstore the other day that kind of felt like it was a set, even though it was a real used bookstore used bookstore. It was in Pasadena and I had never been in it before maybe, but it had to sing like orange bearded dragon. I think it was called Ali Books. I think the front that was like the best bookstore three blocks from a bus stop. It's useful. Why were you in Pasadena just hanging out

doing my thing? The little young lady from Pasadena. Go Molly go, Molly go, Molly go. We've been listening. We've talked about jan and Dean like five times on this podcast. And I wanted to say that I drove dead Man's Curve the other day, and Richard Rushfield was right. It is a very woosy dead Man's Curve. Yeah, I mean, it's like a little scary because other people drive back, but yeah, it's still not don't do it in the rain.

It wasn't in the rain, alright. And I drove around a bunch on Thanksgiving when nobody is around and there's a lot of good driving, and I saw people straight up like drag racing on sunset. It was, oh my god, don't do that. We do not condone drag racing. Okay, guys, I think we should take a night Let's take a night call. Night Call. Are you guys? My name is Kent. I'm a new listener to the podcast, which is fantastically awesome.

By the way, Um, I wanted to call I don't know if you guys are still interested in creepy stories are mysterious stories. So this happened to me when I was in probably middle school in about nineteen eighty I think I was twelve years old. Anyway, there was a guy who lived in the neighborhood who was a couple of years older, and he claimed to have magical powers.

This guy's name was Darryl, and he would tell us that he is going to teach us how to enchant objects and produce an incantation that would put a spell on somebody, or a bunch of other stuff like that. And we got to be pretty naturally skeptical of him. And so he said, all right, I'm going to prove to you my powers. And he said, come on, we're gonna walk down the street. And as we walked under this this um street light, the street light is going to turn off. I'm going to use my power. So

we did. We walked down under the street light, and the street light went off right as we walked under it. We walked probably like a half a mile to the Indus Street and when we came back and said, now the street light will turn on. And when we walked underneath it, the street light turned on. The curious thing is I've noticed that many times um since then, UM happening to me. As you pass by a street light,

it turns off. Sometimes the opposite is true. A street light this are already off as you pass by, it will turn on. I was wondered if this had some some type of brain wave electricity metaphysical explanation that was just beyond the ability to detect it with our own senses, but that maybe there was a there's an actual explanation for why it happens, or who knows, maybe it's just

creepy mind powers. So I did some Internet searching and I saw a few sites kind of devoted to it, and most of them really who proved the idea of something supernatural happening and said, well, it's just coincidence that it happens. But my experience has always been as I'm driving right as a freetlight is coming over me being that's when you like us out anyway, interested to know if you guys know anything further about this, And thanks for a great podcast. I'm going to go back and

listen to the next episode. Thank you so much for listening. Yeah, that was a great night call. Yeah, and I've been. I mean, I absolutely, I'm so glad that you did a spooky one because I feel like we haven't had any spooky stories for a while. And I love this because I had never heard of it, but it totally makes sense to me in some weird way and makes me think of the Twin Peaks opening credits obviously. Oh yeah, there's something spooky about street lights to me, maybe anyway,

because they signal that it's night. UM test, you did a bunch of research. Well, I loved to do it a little bit. So this is a thing that's called street light interference. There's a Wikipedia for it. There's a lot of Reddit threads about it. UM. People who believe in this being a kind of paranormal or like based on human energy output. UM are really really really firm believers,

and they will not be swayed. Uh. They've they've done like some kind of experiments to see if they can recreate this, and people who say that it happens when they pass under street lights or whatever, that it's like particular to them, they can't recreate it. So, you know,

scientists are very skeptical of this. UM. I think somebody somewhere said that that it's possible that the connection between the lamp and its sock it gets looser over time, and so if the connection is interrupted, then the street light will go off, and then because of what kind of bulbs are used or whatever, it takes a minute for them to go back on. So I think theoretically, when you drive or pass under a street light, you could even just that kind of vibration might disrupt the connection.

But then psychic insights dot WordPress or whatever says they say personally, I make street lights go down, make TVs go statistic statically nuts. I also can't hold a credit card or I'll destroy the magnetic strip and it won't work. So do I believe people when they tell me these things happen to them? You bet? I do. This reminds me I need to watch Poultergeists for a future podcast, What We Got What We'll be talking about that in the following. I had a friend or a former coworker who, um,

she had a magnetic implant. Um just a teeny tiny I mean like intentionally, it wasn't a medical thing. It planted into her finger basically just to be able to uh say, that she's a cyborg. Um, she got elective surgery for this or this was yeah, yeah, it's like a tattoo, but it's a magnet in her finger. Cool

she did. But but so I had to room with her. Um. I think it was at south By Southwest or something when we were working there, and her key card for the hotel room would always get deactivated every single day because she would, you know, brush your hand against it and deactivate it. So there's pluses and minuses to being a human magnet. Do you think she could turn a

street left? I don't know, I wonder, Um, I mean I've noticed I I feel like I noticed this more in l A maybe, but like street lights going on and off, and I always thought it was like to just cycle through or save energy or something, um, because it felt it felt like they went on and often shifts. But some of them metio. I mean, I think that some of them do have motion sensor. I always I'm a slider sl lighter. My dad used to claim that he could like change them, and then I realized he

just was had figured out how did time it? You know, off the yellow on the other side. But that works for a very long time. Child street lights, no traffic lights, but that's what I think we also are talking about, right, No, no, this is like the straight lights. Yeah, because traffic lights are predetermined, they're on a timer. That's why I brought up twin peaks at the video. We're talking about traffic lights,

the asylums all over it. Um If if anybody who has any experience with this or themselves can turn traffic lights on off, this is a slider in our life. Please give us a night Call one to four oh four six night or night email at night Call Podcast at gmail dot com. But yeah, thank you Kent for your call, Umtally. I love I love learning of a new phenomenon me too, and I want to know if anyone thinks they can turn traffic lights on and off. No, Molly, no,

it's not that crazy. Street lights as normal, but street lights don't control traffic. Also, please follow us on social media so that you can share honestly. In the book group for Night Call, there's been a lot of really good paranormal stuff going on. So we're night Call Podcast on Facebook, um, Nightcall Podcasts on Instagram, Nightcall Pod on Twitter, and please remember to review, rate and subscribe if you don't mind wherever you listen to podcasts. What um, what

are you seeing after um? Oh? So I actually am not going anymore. I I thought that I had mortal engines after this morty And when did you call it more? It took it more to my steampunk. It took me so long you to code that treet and then when I did, I was like so mad at you. I can't wait to talk about the steampunk movie next time. Thanks for listening, See you next week. Bye okay