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Grammars autography. To clarify, I didn't actually read it. I listened to it. You read with your ears, read with my ears. My friend Sarah came down from San Francisco and she rented a car. In the car they offered her was a Mustang convertible, amazing, and so she said sure, and then she's like, the only thing I want to blast out of this car is Kelsey Grammar's autobiography. She was she was making the drive by herself, so she downloaded a couple of audio books. I think she downloaded

Infinite Jazz and Kelsey Grammar's audio book. How long is the audio book for Infinite Jazz? I mean think she was like, it's the five or six hour drive. Got to load up with some Uh. The Kelsey Grammar Book is an autobiography Kelsey Grammar wrote in so like at the peak of Frasier years. Uh, and it feels as though it may have been written under the influence of which is uh something he talks about in the book.

Uh speaks about on the audio book where you get to hear his his voice say all the things on Kaine on the audio book. Look, I mean, it definitely proves that he's not Dr Fraser Crane, but I was saying, it's sort of implies that he might really besideshow Bob, Yeah, you know, it's not that I feel more sympathetic towards him, but he did have like a crazy life kind of that involved both his sister and father dying by being murdered. Um, and Test said, le you know what that means. I said,

if this were the staircase, Molly, what would you be thinking. Look, he wasn't there when it happened, so he says, allegedly. Allegedly, So his sister, uh was sort of just like a rebel. And Uh, they were all I think they grew up in Florida. Here's what I learned about Helsey Grammar. He was really into surfing, surfing, he was like, well he also the way he describes himself as though he was

like incredibly like just deep and wise. As a child, it is so Mary, He's just like And then as a child, I like looked at the stars and realized that, like I am God. He has this one part where he talks about surfing and like where he's like I realized I might be Jesus Christ, because because Jesus was as we all know, but his father was like a crazy man, colonialist, evil guy who like had a hotel or something or a bar in the US Virgin Islands

where Kelsey was born. And then I wasn't in Kelsey's life at all, but was basically like just a super racist, nightmare colonialist white guy in the Virgin Islands. Uh. And then he was murdered by the locals for being such a deck. How amazing in when he wrote so Far, which is the title of this book, so Far ellipses, Yes, importantly, Um, but I just want to clarify. Was he like um, like talking about his father like that, that asshole, or

was he like my sweet father sort of? His father was absent in his life, so he grew up with like maybe like a mean stepdad or something, maybe a nice stepdad. I don't remember. It was a long book. We didn't even get up to Cheers in our listening. It starts with chea, with him getting cast on cheers, and then it's like flashing all the way back to

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because people's lives are so weird. He tells the whole story about how he got in trouble for having long hair in high school and rather than cut his hair, he would just wear a wig every day. There's like a description at the beginning when he's setting up like we'll get back to this later where he talks about just like crashings convertible on coke. I think like during Frasier time in the present day, I think in Frasier time.

And then his sister was murdered just totally randomly and viciously by like a local group of kids who were maybe like doing it as like an initiation or something. It was like teenagers. She was like working late at a red lobster and they just like broken and was also in the U S Scradgean Islands. No, this was in Colorado, Yeah, Colorado. And then Kelsey had to go to Colorado to I D the body and he just

describes that experience and it was like horrible. So he comes off as like a weird, fucked up person, definitely, and he's very much talking a lot about like my demons. I mean, the one thing that he has always struck me about like housewives, especially Beverly Hills Housewives, is like there's like an disproportionate amount of horrible tragedy that befalls these people. And I don't know how you know. I mean, he was obviously at an early house Husband Camille Grammars

no longer on the show. But like I always think of this, like how did these epic, like like Shakespearean level tragedies and horror stories happened? Like seemed to keep it's the real well. He cut his teeth doing Shakespeare, being in the Shakespeare Company in San Diego at the Old Globe. That's where he got into Shakespeare. And then he was plucked from the original production of Hurley Burley. On this he was in Hurley Burley directed by Mike Nichols in the original run and he did the Cheers

audition You've never seen Cheers. He got cast on Cheers. He said, hey, Mike Nichols, will you let me out of my contract? And Mike Nichols was like, hell no. And then he had his friends like call Mike Nichols and like bag and please. He said something about like Mike Nichols, like tempestuous nature that he is so beloved for. It's a very shady book. Which is Ben is chomping at the bit here. I know he wants to get a word. I just want to ask, Hi, everyone is Ben?

I was interested in Molly. I've never read or listened to his book. But did he talk about his half brothers or the circumstances of their deaths? Okay? So uh? The official record is that they both drowned, although only one body was retreated. I did know that there was a drowning later on. What are you just so? This is that? You know we've talked about two tragedies. These are the other two total four tragedies in Kelsey's life.

Um so it's two half brothers. Um I believe in the Caribbean we're scuba diving and one body was to trieve. The others never been found. It's believed to have been a shark tech Geez, did Kelsey makeup act with Satan when he was a young Jesus haired surfer? What guys would you like to read some passages from Kelsey Grammer's so Far, and thank you very much to Ben for compiling these. This is this is He is our ros truly. Yeah.

He just spent like two hours just really laser focused skimming through this book, the book of so far dot dot dot. You want me to do the forward? Yeah, to the forward. Years after my sister had died, a friend of hers told me this story. One night. She and Karen had been talking of life and family and where we all were going. Karen stopped and thought for a minute and then said, I'm not so sure about myself, but I do know this, Kelsey's going to do it all.

So I dedicate this book to Karen A Lisa Grammer. Karen, if I haven't done at all, I promise I will still keep trying. That's pretty that's pretty exemplary. He was like, it's like everyone in his life is like Kelsey, you are the greatest man, who were the Golden Child? Like I know, I know, I'm wondering. I'll read the next bit. Uh. Here's here's the story of how Kelsey got cast on Cheers. And it's called Weirdness and Kelsey's Life by our producer Bend.

Two years into Cheers, the producers decided to add a new character, an uptight, intellectual psychiatrist who knew exactly what was wrong with everybody else, but not what was screwing him up. They looked at a great many actors in Los Angeles. No one was right, so they started looking in New York. They looked at stand up comics, and they looked at actors, and then they found me. They found me because every moment of my life led them to finding me where the strands of causality are most visible.

I found me because I had been in the Stephen Sondheim musical called Sunday in the Park with George, and that was weird. I used this word advisedly to to that point, my life had included such weirdness as the murder of my father, the rape and murder of my beloved and only sister, the drowning deaths of my two half brothers, and a marriage that went south even before

the ceremony. But it was definitely weird that I ever got to sing on stage in New York, because the thing of it was when I was chosen for Sunday in the Park with George. I was in my late twenties, and I hadn't sung since I was in high school. What weird anywhere near what? I was looking that my friend listened to the rest of the book on her drive back. I want to I want to hear everything. Just that it was bananas, Emily. I think it's your

turn to play Frazer Roulette. You've got a doozy. So now we're now we're in the era of Frasier and and and putting together the the this cheer spinoff known as Frasier and So he's talking about some of his co star So as for David, of course, finding Niles shot out of him like poop through a goose. Working with him is effortless. He's exquisite as Niles, a lovely man and an amazing actor. I feel like I'm forgetting someone.

Now let me see who could it be? Oh yes, Moose the dog or Eddie Martin's beloved sidekick in the bane of Fraser's existence. It's widely rumored that I hate the dog, and it's kind of fun to perpetuate that myth. The truth is, I have nothing against Moose. The only difficulty I have is when people start believing he's an actor. Acting to me is a craft, not a reflex. It takes years to master, and though it does have its rewards, the reward I seek is not a hot dog. Moose

does tricks. I memorize lines, say words, even walk around und and stuff. But I don't need a trainer standing off camera gesticulating wildly and waving around a piece of meat to know where I'm supposed to look. Okay, So he hates hates, hated him the dog, hated I love the dog would only respond to like it's trainer and everybody else that it did not like I mean, I know,

but he's like mad at the dog forgetting laughs. It starts and you're like, oh, he's gonna kind of like he's doing a goof about like I don't hate the dog, like you know, but it's clearly he's not joking. He hates the dog. No, that's the whole book is he's incapable of joking, and the whole book has written like jokingly. But it's like clear that he means everything he says God,

a lot of which is bonkers. And then Ben added another part that I don't even know if we have to read it out loud, we can just sum up that a racist recreation of what it must have been like for Native Americans to encounter the first settlers to the isle of Manhattan. Uh, and he's is the word power? But um and and I please just read the last line. Yes, of course, the Europeans knew a lot about vertical expression, and for them this place was perfect. And so Manhattan

became a great canvas for glorious erections of the Western mind. Wonderful, wonderful, glorious directions. And like some like Western like some creepy Western civilization, like the new Europeans know what to do. Off fuck off Kelsey. Yeah, I recommend uh listening to the audio book and give us a night call to tell us what you thought and what your favorite part

of Kelsey Grammars were. If there are any good celebrity autobiographies or memoirs that we should read, because I think that this is the generre we are into, especially ones written in the midst of the crazy part of their life where they are perhaps flying on cocaine while writing it. If they're really sniffed and you have an excerpt you want read on air, please end it to us and we will re enact the sneafiest parts of your favorite books I'm thinking of now that I'll maybe I'll bring

into it. I always wanted to um going back to the hoodies time. I wanted to read the Brandy from Housewives memoir, which is like, oh, tweeting and drinking. You guys watch Yeah, the Holly Madison book is a class of the genre. It's actually a great book about the two thousand's and I'm gonna make you guys read it

so we can talk about it. That book is crazy because the first act is getting into and then escaping from the Playboy Mansion and all the crazy power dynamics of the Playboy Mansion that are like horrible and terrifying. And then the second half is she escapes to Las Vegas and then she gets in an equally nightmarish relationship with Chris Angel mind free, and then she has to escape from that. It's a great somebody would you rather be working at the Playboy Mansion or at the Moonlight

Bunny Ranch. I just read something I don't remember where it was of someone who was working there and they loved work there. I used to watch that show on HBO all the time. I think we're going to take some night calls. Now I'm gonna take a bunch of night calls. Let's do it. A night call, a thon, perhaps a fucking grip of night calls. Do we have one from Teresa, my night callers? This is Teresa from

Washington State. UM. I wanted to thank you for starting this podcast when my son was one month old, because you definitely kept me companies during those long, lonely nights of the night feeding. UM. Now he's a little older and seeping through the night a little bit, and UM, I get to enjoy you during the daylight hours as well. UM. So my question is which are you more fascinated by? Uh,

colts or serial killers? And uh, which which one? If you we're doing a deep dive for a cool or a book or something like that, which subjects um and specific cult or serial killer would you want to profile? And uh and I'm gonna Nick's Zoliac from the list. Thanks by well, first of all, TREESA, thank you so much for calling in and congratulations on your baby. Yeah, congratulations,

Nicoll says, what's up? Um, and that's also really cool that you're listening to a podcast about conspiracy theories and cults and serial killers. While your nursing baby really strong start for the child. I mean I was doing the same thing. My kids are genius, so congratulations. Um, that's

a good question. What do you guys think? Wow? I mean personally, I feel like, if I had to pick, I'm going to go with cults because serial killers sometimes I get just too creeped out, especially if I watched too many true crime things, and I'm like, it just makes you just scared to be like a lady in

the world a little bit too much. Sometimes, you know, you're like as that I all start like a woman was minding her business, and then Uh, so I'm going to go with cults because I'm interested in group psychology.

I'm trying to think, like, what's a good one. Well, there's this one we keep talking about that it's like this cult that predates uh Manson that he kind of got a lot of inspirations around, like Palented Box Canyon, uh that I had never heard of about, But it was apparently like a a cult of kind of free love people in Los Angeles in an abandoned studio ranch.

What happened was that people's wives would like show up at the cult and joined the guru and then maybe like the husband finally showed up, like settle up, and that's why the cult disbanded. I don't think they murdered anybody. They just kind of lurked around and creeped people out by existing. I am certainly more of a cult person. I wouldn't even necessarily say that I'm a big serial killer person for a lot of the reasons that you

have brought up. But it's interest seemed to me that so many women are really into serial killers, because I always feel like it's hard for me as a woman a lot of times to like hear these stories over

and over again. But there's been a lot of discussion about like the true crime boom and how much of it is sort of how's a female audience, uh, And people's explanation is mostly like it's like a safe place to vent these fears and to think about stuff that is scary and in the background always, and that you know, they provide these narratives of like people getting caught that are comforting and not super realistic. I think it's less about people getting caught or like trying to solve it

or like, um find the culprit. Then like I think dwelling on the circumstances of the death and like imagining

somebody suffering. I get kind of creeped out by Really I couldn't really deal with mind Hunter, even because so much of it was just like, I mean, they're all just motivated by the same thing, which is like misogyny, and it's boring, and eventually, you know, like do it because like a lizard t too, not just because you hate women and want to Maybe part of it is like wishful thinking that somebody could be a serial killer for a reason other than just those long monologues on

mind Hunter that are like, well I wanted to like slice her a little oppressive it just you know, And I think that's also why why when there's like the occasional female serial killer, or why people were so into Sheila from uh Wild Wild Country was because there's this idea that like only crazy misogynists can be evil, and it's like, no, there's like lots of ways people can become crazy, crazy or evil, and Sheila it felt like a real like more more female drone pilots kind of

thing where it's like, no, we don't actually want women to like also be sociopaths. But there's something a little exciting about it because it's so rare that you're like, well, if you give somebody, as if you give women like a position from which to abuse. I hate to say this now because I feel like a creepy person, but I'm actually more into serial serial killers than I am

into cults. Not into them, like I would like more of them, but when I'm thinking about super scary things, I think that the problem that I have with cults is that it's really um hard for me to imagine a large group of people who are like kind of

all brainwashed into believing illogical things. Whereas if I'm viewing a person who's kind of like isolated, and then most of the story inevitably ends up being about the victims and law enforcement, and you know, people's responses to that person, so they remain like more of kind of an objective, you know, it's mostly a normal, rational people's response to an irrational act. Exactly. Yes, And I think it's easier for my head to wrap around the idea that somebody is,

you know, this extremely disturbed monster. I really liked Mine Hunter. I do agree that eventually you're like kind of numb to it. And you're like, this is a lot. But at the same time, I mean, like the Zodiac Killer for instance, like it's really about the people trying to solve the case and and how people feel knowing that when they look at us see if people, it's like there's how many people are possible murderers and whatever. I feel like you're also you're into the like psychology of it.

I could definitely say, well, when you said you were into the psychology of cults, I was like, that makes a lot of sense. But in a way, there's something almost more kind of like ordinary and and sad about a cult because you think of a person who has something missing in their life and they're trying to fill avoid and they fill it with a charismatic leader and they just like eat up all these laws. As opposed to, you know, kind of a community of people who are

working against something evil. They're like just becoming this like mundane evil mass, which is less interesting to me, Like the stakes are lower most of the time. Not with Jonestown.

Like the way you just described the cult psychology is just so incredibly close to something I think anybody can see themselves in any day of the week, like it's actually it's harder to imagine, but you're but I get what you're saying because you're saying it's like, it's not like you're a gening yourself as like a serial killer that you get obsessed with the people who are obsessed with exactly tracking them down, which is kind of like

the cult thing. It's just you want to be in something bigger than yourself that you can throw yourself into, and that's just But it's also like if you've ever tried to reason with a person who's an a cult, which I have and recently yes, right and got nowhere, it's frustrating because you're like, you can't help someone who doesn't want to be helped and who may not have committed a crime. So it's like it's just this thing that's sad, But that's not a problem that can be fixed.

It's just something that you have to I mean again like Kanye, where you're like, he's entitled to his opinion because you just made me think about is the ault? Right? Right? I mean that's the same things and the kind of resignation you have to have if like you're not going to be able to argue something out of it unless they actually want to be argued out of it. Okay, guys, so I'm pretty sure that we have all been browsing Modcloth and shopping at Modcloth for the past couple of years.

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don't even care. They're just like they like to do a little bad Yeah, they like to be a little bad boy. And that's the thing. Uh just about a lot of these like the edge lords, is like it's always just reinforcing something really boring and already dominating, you know. Um As far as cults that I would like to read more about, I feel like a lot of times stuff about um Asian cults doesn't make it to the States. There's not like a wild world country of the Unification Church,

for example. UM. I spent a lot of time in the Wikipedia for for New Religion's New Age religion. And it's really interesting how some of them are not classified as like maybe a cult, but we're not sure, and then some of them are like it seemed fine and then it turned out to be a cult. Well, I had a relative who was who got who got taken in by the by the moonies for a short amount of time. Really, it's a it's a fun family story. Hey I have a moony story. Yeah, I want to

hear story. I was going to the New school and I met a girl and we were started dating, and she lived in the New Yorker Hotel and she would sneak me in and she would throw these big, wild parties all our international friends, and she sort of talked about being a Mooney and that her and her sister was sort of deeply involved. And I was telling my friend this story years later, and he looked up the family of Sou Young Moon and it was his youngest daughter.

Oh my god. Then weird so and I can't believe that at the time, you were like, you were in the New Yorker hotel and you were like, Oh, this is cool. I'm never going to like google this girl or whatever three or something. I was dumb. Oh my God, that's amazing. Yeah. Well, a friend of ours got taken in by somebody who she thought was trying to date her that turned out to be a multi level marketing scheme.

Was this the guy who slept in the hospital bed? Yeah? Yeah, so there was a friend of mine um briefly dated a man who slept in a hospital bed. Is like my, I mean that's the thing, is the multi level marketing. I'm like, yeah, whatever, he slept in a hospital, then like, that's the bed he chose for himself. I mean he

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can't say no to anything, I was like sure. And then they gave me a bunch that I was supposed to sell, and I told them I was allergic to it, so I needed to return it was just a UM. I remember when Katy Perry was doing her live stream, like one of the people in the audience, they let her talk, ask a question. She just started cold pitching her on Landmark. Well, that's like Alice and Mac. I

think was going after maybe Jessica Valenci. She's just going she was going after Merl Streep and well, using women's empowerment as like a front for a cult. Know what's empowering is being branded on your pelvis. That's empowering. It's a choice. Ben, Are you more into cults or serial killers? Serial killers? Thank you, Ben, thank you. I was feeling super crazy. It was like, there have to be others

like me. I think that. I think that the current podcast marketplace bears that out there are but it knows the psychology. It's just fascinating to me. I actually produced UM another show where I got to sit in on an interview with FBI profiler who had worked on uh really like high profile cases and she wait, Ben, are you a mind hunter? Yeah? I actually met a real life mind hunter. Be like, he's he who hunts the mind hunts the mind hunters. Have you guys seen this film? Um?

I just looked, and it's on Netflix now, which makes it great. Uh, so you can actually check it out. Called holy hell, No, I haven't watched that. You guys need to watch it. It's amazing because it is made by this guy who was in It's not even necessarily clear that it is a cult. It's just one of those things that walks up to the line. Um. But

he started, you know, just documenting everything. I think, like the thing you see in Wild Wild Country where it's just like all these people they're wanting like for some reason, we're just you mention everything obsessively. There's footage of everything. So he over I think a decade or something that he was in this group um uh called the budda

Field that was in Los Angeles or West Hollywood. I think, um like documentary just being enthusiastic about it and doing it because he loved it so much and was like the official videographer. But because of that, and he has this huge cash of all this stuff from inside this this group. As it just got more and more kind of sinister and weird and um but it's kind of incredible to see something that's kind of just a single person's perspective on it as opposed to like a far reaching,

like researched thing. Um, maybe the key here is just document everything. Yeah, when you joined the group totally and then get a Netflix show. Well, somebody also saying that Alison Mack on Smallville and Andrew Kegan, who ran a cult in Venice, that I think we were saying he was making them going making some rock and bucha. They're both in the movie Camp Aware. Somebody was like, isn't it weird too of the actors from Camp Nowhere grew up to be dig deep into that. Yeah, it is

a good name for a cult. It's interesting too. At the end of Wild Wild Country when they show like what the campus turned into that it's now the Christian with the water park, it's young Life, which is like, I mean I narrowly dodged going to Young Life as a youth. Um, I never went, but I came close. Were you raised religious? Yeah? I didn't know. That's why she's into instead of instead of young Life. I think I just went to like some youth leadership conference and

washing in Dundee here. I mean, like, I was in a youth group for many, many years, and you know it was it was cool. And exciting to me at the time, so I was just doing I wish I was in Pony Glove geez. I was asking my mom about, like when did she become a lapsed Catholic and she

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what they were saying, it was like not interesting. I read it in this amazing book called The Kingdom, which I'm sure once I finish it, I will want to talk about it, which is um kind of this sort of very highly literary, uh, supposing of what the life of Paul was like, who you know, basically is responsible

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when you think that nobody is looking at you. So subscribe to Raise by TV now in your favorite podcast app like Apple Podcast, Stitcher or wherever you listen to your podcasts. We have a night email that I would like Molly today. All right, this is comes from Mickey Hi on Girls and Hoodies. You were always talking about the most interesting shows. I learned about Black Mirror first from your pod. Also Secrets of the Living Dolls and Slow TV. Do you have any new tips? Wait? What

was Secrets of the Living Dolls? Oh? That was the guy the the Real Dolls. It was really good. Yeah, that's that's a good one to re recommend, by the way, and Slow TV. Also Slow TV. Yeah, it's a good time for that. Um I am going to recommend a show called Toastalline. I haven't watched it. You guys talking about this all the time, but I feel like I should once I realized that it was not a reality show, because I think I thought it was a reality show

this whole time. But Toasa London is a show. It's on Netflix. It is a British half hour comedy. Uh, it's so silly. We should we should let you know that it's only for if you're playing silly movies in your mind, because it's not about a British actor. It kind of it kind of segues well out of the Kelsey Grammar stuff too, because it's a out a very pompous, self absorbed actor who treads the boards, but it's about how his career as a stage actor has sort of

stalled and he has to do all this voice over work. Um, and my friend claimed that the voiceover stuff is all based in real life and that it's like incredibly accurate. Everybody has the most ridiculous names. Yeah, everyone has a funny name. But what I keep saying about is like a lot of like what I never liked about a lot of anti comedy was sort of like, you know, go so far in the direction of being unfunny that it just would become a chore to watch. It's not

a normal show. And yeah, my boyfriend was saying it's the only show he's ever seen that has musical interludes that he likes. Wait, what kind of interim? There are just songs. There's like a song and episode. And Matt Barry, who's the who plays Steven Toast is also has like an indie folk career in real life, and he makes this kind of like serious, good psychedelic folk music. I think the first one had an almost like a music video in it. Emily, what are you watching? Like, I

don't really have that much time to watch TV. This isn't necessarily a recommendation. This was just a weird Netflix experiment. And this is also Madmie, and this is like leads me to a sidebar about Netflix, which is just like they buy up so many movies, so many indie movies and like actually fancy movies. And the thing that gets recommended to me on my homepage is World's Most Extraordinary Homes, which is like a one off special British special UM.

And so we were like, oh, we can't find anything, blah blah blah, let's just watch World's Most Extraordinary Homes. So so we started to watch it and it's actually completely charming. I mean it's just about like homes, like incredible architectural feats. Um. The hosts are good, the hosts are amazing. I'm so glad that you watched this. British. The woman who's like the main host, she is so funny because she's just she's like she's uninhibited in her

in her appreciation for architecture. She's like, uh, she feels like she belongs on British bake Off, but she would be one of the contestants, not a host. Yeah. I think we all need things that kind of balance out the dark stuff, because you can't just go all serial killers and cults all the time. Sometimes you just have to watch a reality show about really extravagant holmes. Oh wait, speaking of homes, you guys test send us a home this week? Oh no, Emily sent up. Please give me

credit for this. Sorry, I know that you're both looking at Well. Sometimes I discover something on Craig's List because I don't know why I'm looking at Los Angeles Craigslist at midnight. Uh no, no particular reason. But I found a um home. I won't say where it is, Well, okay, it's it's it's in my dream home. Like, I will just say this. I have a I have a fantasy of owning one of these kind of mid century homes, mellow, like two bedrooms. Some of them were like one bedroom homes.

Someone compared it to me it is Megan Draper's crash pad. It's it's sort of the vibe of Philip Marl's apartment, but it's not apart an apartment. It's small, but it's on the hill. The price was suspiciously low, but it also but it also looked really um. It was obviously hadn't been renovated for a long time, but the headline of the post was the God Fearing Home, And so of course I sent it to Tess and Molly immediately. I mean, like, what's going on here at tests? Can

you do some redfin research? Which I immediately did. There's nothing I like more than a mysterious real estate listing. It's like my favorite thing, and I look at real estate constantly, even though I'm never moving again in my entire life. So I'm just gonna say how suspicious the press was. It was about six hundred dollar, is below like the lowest market value for a rental. It's also listed for sale. I believe it is a short sale or pre foreclosure. So I was like, Emily, are you

seriously interested in this room? And I texted the person and I was like, you know, I have a lot of questions about this listing. My friend is interested. And I texted them in the afternoon, and then the person texted back at one thirty eight am. He gave me a nightmall on that home. He didn't answer any of my questions. He was like, well, you wanna you wanna take a look. He was like, it's month to month.

And I was like, I think I'm good. And then he texted again the other night and was like he's still interested. And I was like, damn it. Why is it called the god fearing? He said, and he was like it's a good answer because we're good Christians. Of course. I was like, of course, of course, Okay, guy leads into a Rosemary's Baby. I want to live there in

such an amazing apartment. Right, That's like what Rosemary's Baby is about two is it's like, you're so lucky to get an apartment in New York and then you just let the devil give you a baby. Well, if not the devil owning property, not this hail Satan home? Right, but how do we play cake? Right? You have to give them your firstborn child. And there I was saying that you should be because I I unfortunately, I am not prepared to pick up and move by by next

month for this home. Um, even for the low low price of X amount of dollars. Um uh, that we should we should make it our our headquarters for a nightcall. We're looking for a night yea a night club. Anybody has any any hotlines on a night commune or if you want to wire us money so that we can just bond us. If anybody wants to get acquire us a down payment, that would be amazing. Um that's how

we're gonna stage our pivot to exactly. I really want us to read this one last email because we can make it just a lightning around and just give our quick answers. This night email comes to us from Tyler. He says, hello, nightcall. I very much enjoy the show and I love hearing about different conspiracies, most I haven't heard of before. Shadow People is going to be a lot of research for me. But someone had mentioned the Lizard People in the last episode, which is one of

my favorite conspiracies. My question for the podcast is who would be the least surprising lizard person to discover and who would be the most surprising? Thank you Tyler, and thank you Tyler um Man. This is a good one. At the first person who popped into my head for whatever reason was Catherine hahn umst most most surprising? Most Why would she? Um has? Has she been called a lizard person. No, that's exactly why it would be surprising.

It would be so random. Um. I was just trying to think of people who I would be genuinely surprised to discover, you know, a beloved actress and indie films and um and some TV series. I just think it would be a weird move for the lizard people. Um, she's great, I love her. I would be shocked. Who would be the least surprising. I don't know, like a Roderl's type or something. I don't Yeah, there's tons of test.

Do you have an answer to this question, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, I'm not dissing her, that would be the least surprising, right, Like she's a lizard person, like duh. I'm not dissing her appearance or people which would be able to button the topic of Smoky Eye though. That's what I'm saying. Um, I mean Elon Musk. Like, I guess we all probably are working with different uh definitions of a lizard of

reptilian if you will. Um, But they're like, wouldn't they be kind of like Illuminati adjacent but like evil or I think the media or like or any kind of press adjacent person like Sarah could be least surprising would definitely be all all the tech billionaires. You're right, do you think Peter til I mean Peter being too obvious about it that they're gonna like come out tomorrow and be like, well, we're really like hanging kotos all this time.

It's like, oh, of course. Do you think Peter Teal is getting the blood transfusions because he's cold blooded and in order to regulate his body temperature he needs um mammalian transfusions. Definitely, I think we solve the problem good. They most surprising I'll just go with Katherine Hallett also because now I'm like, she's right, it would be very surprising. But he didn't ask who would be the most surprising. I mean, the most surprising lizard person would obviously be yourself,

because you know that you are not tests. If it turned out we were a lizard person, now, that wouldn't be the most surprised. It would be because it would be a really long con But you know that, I'm I'm like affectionate, That's what I'm saying. Somebody who loves lizards and cares about their well fair a lot. You know, it's like Catwoman, like that's true, and you were always trying to hide your knowledge of the lizard. This is like my superhero or it don't urry people that I

know everything. Rango yesterday, Yeah, Rangoes, Rangoes such a good movie. Well, Rango would be surprising if he was Johnny Depp could be a lizard person. Yeah, it's it's too easy to just blame all the evil people on lizard people. I'm like, what if they're just just was a great lizard person

to share? Okay, yeah, there we go. But even some of the people, like when I'm like, who's a celebrity, like a big celebrity and influential celebrity that I really love, And it's still I'm like, you know, if they turn out to be all if their person, wouldn't be surprised even though I love them, like a Beyonce for example. That's what it's been like, honestly though, Like it's been a little bit like that with finding out how many men are terrible. Yeah, that's the idea. Maybe Nick Kroll

is a lizard person. Publicity was actually pub lizard he and they can do a whole spinoff where they like turn into Liz and Liz with the like Lizard Chameleon power. Well, I've told you I used to have a tweet stalker who thought that I was part of a Nick Krawl based conspiracy. I was obsessed with that guy. I mean I felt sorry for you. It was a lady. Yeah. She was like, I know that you're you know, being paid off by Big Croll to promote all these things.

And I was like, no, I just like croll Ship. It's so funny to me that someone would be like, how could someone like Croll? I think of curl Show all the time. It was like, the reason it was a conspiracy is because they were like, you've said nice things about multiple projects of people involved. Because I said, like it gave a good review to a Chelsea par special and I was like, no, I just like these and we really liked. Oh hello, Yeah, they thought it

was a conspiracy. Well, Crawl Show has been coming up a lot recently too, because everything has gotten so cruel, show and culture. When Trump was tweeting at Kanye and said like very cool, I don't know that's a Bobby catchphrase. Also big mouth, which is the new Nick Krol and John mulaney um animated show with like all of the Krol Show alms is really good. Yeah, but also you're just feeding into the conspiracy, totally feeding. It's also I

mean John Mlaney stand up Special. I think it's on Netflix now um or soon, I don't know, So definitely go and watch that. And uh, definitely we're not listening people. So yeah, Well, thank you for listening to this week's episode of the Night Call. If you like us, please rate, review, and subscribe, and don't forget to drop us a line at two four oh four six night or you can email us at Nightcall Podcast at gmail dot com. Also, please follow us on social media. Nightcall Pod on Instagram,

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