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company on those strange days and lonely nights. My name is Emily Ashida, and I am in New York City and with me on the other line in Los Angeles, I have Molly Lambert and Tess Lynch and we were just moments before hitting record here uh kind of gaping collectively, uh bicoastally over the new Genelman a video that just came out a few hours ago for for making me feel that's the song hence the San Junipero reference that is basically a kind of uh, I don't know it's

it's it's a light tribute, but it's just amazing. It's her and Tessa Thompson in a neon colored club with like Prince guitars, and it's just fantastic. And I'm really glad that there is a new Janelle mone piece of music and visual in the world, because it feels like it's been way too long. Welcome back, all right, That's that's our collective message for Janelle Monet. I guess I love Jenelle Money. I actually um, she was my daughter's favorite guest on Sesame Street. She did a very high

impact song about fixing your mistakes, getting it right. I don't think I've seen that, but I can imagine her being just like a perfect Sesame Street guest. She is just like, yeah, she's just got this energy. It's like her center of gravity is like right and like the middle of her body, so it makes her kind of like this, Like I don't know, there's something about her that she feels very suited to, Like she's she looks fancy,

she's got that muppet muppet Yeah. Hey, speaking of music videos, huh, I happened to see a really good music video for Speedy Ortiz is Lucky eighty eight that I think was directed by a friend of ours. Money good, good, anytime, anytime? Where where? Did you see the music video on the internet? On the internet? WHOA, Oh my god, so Emily spoiler alert that you directed and produced or just directed? I

forgot I directed and produced. It was incredible. Yeah, there's a there's a very black mirror, a jokey black mirror storyline and some excellent practical effects. And yeah, test and I want to know everything about the slime practical Well, first, of all who came up with the concept. Um. So I kind of got the the gig a little bit

last minute. Um and I all I knew was that they kind of wanted something in the neighborhood of Riverdale and black mirror was what I was told, like kind of like I I think like the color palette of Riverdale were more like and I was like, oh great, I that is my address, the section of Riverdale and black Hair. I would love to do something. Uh did you see that m Gregor Rocky directed a Riverdale No, I didn't see that. I have not been um watching

this season. I feel like it's going to be waiting for me someday when I am sick, waiting for you, like a milkshake Pops chocolate shop. Um. But yeah, so I I kind of tossed around some ideas. I mean, I would have loved to do like a high school set. The original idea was something that was like set in high school, and then it just felt like it was going to be too logistically complicated with scenes. You know. Yeah,

it was funny. I was going back and thinking about it and I was like, so I spent this a very satisfying summer reading um two out of three of the Vallast Trilogy, the Philip K. Dick books and UM. The third one is the Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch and there the idea of it is that UM Colin of sam Mars are so bored that they take this drug where they basically get to live this alter ego life and they can buy these like like they can

buy objects to have in their drug state. Um. Yeah, it's basically like second life, except it's induced by drugs, and so everybody like everybody can't wait to get like the latest sweater for their for their for their choosy experience and or no, it's not choosy, it's candy. Candy is the first one, and everybody becomes either um, the women become somebody named Perky Pat and uh so that was sort of like the persona was like perky Pat um for for Sadie but um but yeah, and then

the slime. I was just like, I think I'd read this Um June Edo comic Dissolving class This is all in classroom over Christmas, and I was just really um and trance with the idea of doing something with slime, and luckily slime is the hottest thing right now. That's what I was going to say. I thought you would ride in the slime wave. No no, no, no, I wasn't.

And then I realized, oh, yeah, this is like every time that kind of pops up maybe on your suggested views suggested videos, like hey, would you like to watch somebody like yeah, and it's so funny because um, you know, I was like trying to find somebody to just manage the effects during it, and um, everybody who was kind of like working on the video was like, oh, man, like you know, if they could work twelve hour days, I would just call my cousin or something, because they

like make these huge that I was going to say when you were like, hey, do you know anyone who makes slime? And I was like, who doesn't make slime? I mean, this is definitely a post election phenomenon, is that everybody got really into like manufacturing large quantity days. It was like right after fidget Spinners. It was the next thing because it's therapeutic. Because I remember in the

nineties there was slime, there was ghack. I was actually just were we were super into slime, but there was there was like this whole list of Nickelodeon um different kinds of slime and putties and things, and some of them have been discontinued, others remain by nobody remember exactly. I feel like them making your own is new and that's the thing that I like to watch videos of. I just like used that to explain to somebody what

a SMR was. Yeah. I was like, you know, it's like when people make those videos of slime where they like squished the s. They were like, oh, yeah, yeah, I've watched this. Well, there's also a big snail musin cosmetics the movement, and I think that that just kind of like, yes, slime becomes a part of your daily life. I think we're just in like the mucous age. I think we are. I think I think people are ready

to get gross. That was kind of my feeling and doing it is like I think that there is kind of like reactionary to maybe the hyper controlled like global Airbnb aesthetic of everything now, which is also what the video has in it. It's like people just want to see things get covered in slime and goop. But it was really nice to watch that happened. It was it's also an earworm. It's such a good song. Ya. The sushi covered in slime really like did something weird to

my brain? Good job, thank you. Um. Hopefully I haven't a chance to do that in a long form fashion. Yeah, I mean I also, I think The Blob is like one of the scariest horror movies of all time. It totally is. I watched a bunch of The Blob for this, I watched obviously rip Oman was a big influence on it.

Uh And yeah, but the Blob is so scary and it's all these practical effects and it's so nasty, and it kind of reminds me of a movie that's coming out this week that hopefully we'll talk about next week that also has some very nasty both practical and digital effects. But it's just like grossest anymore slime thoughts, um, I'm wondering.

I was sitting here musing, wondering whether cosmetic kind of booms, like when people are really interested in multi step skin rituals and cosmetics, if that correlates at all with people's fascination with slime. I do think so, you know why, because there's been some really slime like face masks, the bubble masks, like the ones with glitter, and then I saw a really grotesque one that was like just the

imagery is grotesque. It's like Doctor Jart like shaking shot that Kara Brown was like trying out that seemed it seems really fun to do, like whether or not it actually does anything to your skin. It's like so weird looking, but then I'm always like, what if it got stuck on your face? Well, there's there's one I think it's like, what the hannock your mask? I obsessively read about this stuff,

but I don't really use it. But there's one that like tightens your face so much that it makes you look very old, and then you rinse it off and it's like your face is really tight. And then there are these bubble clay masks that kind of foam when they come in contact with the oils on your skin. But I wonder if it's you know, being in contact with these kind of gooby gooby goose, uh, if if you start kind of like becoming more fascinated with that texture,

because it's kind of like insinuated in your life. It's like we're we're simulating a stress response that like animals, like anybody else have, which was this like if you're stressed out, you create a gooey layer to protect you from the rest of the work. Yes, I feel like that is what's going on here. I it's the same with like mucus, if you have allergies or something and you get mucasy, Like that's the same thing. I feel like it's just like a melting time, Like everything's melting,

The world is melting. Do you think that the goo and the Slime is a comment on global warming? Is? Though? It totally no, because that is like also the her pitch from Sadie. I mean, the song is kind of meant to be about this thing of just like being so fed up or like, you know, being so fed up with how much conflict in like stress and stuff is going on. But meanwhile everything is like, you know,

the world is gonna die a slow heat death, etcetera. Um, And yeah, so that was like definitely there from the start of the video, was the slime being global warming? Um? Speaking of global warming briefly, Martha Stewart has been on a polar journey that I feel was directly inspired by Night Call. She's at the South Pole and she's been posting the most amazing photographs of like ice formations from a tiny ten person boat called the Zodiac. Wow, yeah

that she is. She's a Night Call fan. Yeah, she's very she is she a tasky? Is she an avery or she might be like a Zodiac? I think she is true. I love her goth Instagram. It's so goth. It's very like. She posted this picture once of like a donkey eating a coyote and everybody was like wow, and she was like, it's the brutality. Okay, she's hurd talk. Speaking of our other Night Call listeners, I think that we have some listener questions that we were going to tackle.

We'll go like do lie doo, lie doo lie dude. So we we received a bunch of really great voicemails and emails this week, and it was really hard to choose from um the good questions that we got. And if you have a call for us, you should give us a call at two four oh four six night That's right, Emily, or you can always email us at Night Call Podcast at gmail dot com. Drop us a line. Let's uh have a voicemail, guys, let's kick it off a night call. Just Sen Howards, California, fucking dogs, cold

not so y streets of North Holly. Who was here was a question for you? Me and my friends. Linda was talking to the huge Harrison Ford fan, big big crush on the man, particularly classic Arab Ford. We had a good question what year was Harrison Ford the hottest? Like, what single year would you just look in the absolute best in the hottest role and uh we settled on three.

That's the year where a simple do was being filmed and trangetic gis out if you google Harrison Ford nine eight three is a particularly hot image of man these sub glasses is just the pub mre. So you know, maybe you guys don't think there supports hotton. You know, I will double this podcast you do think that, but you know, just answer the question the hot we get started.

For the background, I'm actually googling. I googled three, Molly, did you know I googled Harrison Ford's I MDB and I'm looking at all of his credits now to decide when he was the hottest. First of all, we obviously all think Harrison Forward is hot. Obviously I'm saying, assuming everyone else is on board, I think he is hot. Um, he is also one of the rare actors that I would say has not gotten better with age. I think

when he is young, he is the hottest. Well, um, that's a that's a hot take that most people hotter as the age. Were you just saying he is the rare is the exception where he was hot or young? Or were you saying, okay, okay, most actors I I and that I find physically appealing, I like, at least equally across all their different aging periods. And that he meant you were saying he like leveled off as an actor at a certain point, like you plateau in terms

of talent, which I do kind of maybe think it's true. Yeah, I mean not not. It's not a lie. It's not a lie. Really quick say that if you do google Harrison for three, which now obviously everyone who's listening has to google. He he had a really bad beard and mustache choice around that time, and it's thrown in with the other images and it, honestly, it kind of ruins

nineteen three for me. It looks, oh, you're you're right, you know what I mean Here, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna I think is a good choice, because that's like you're between Indiana Jones, You're after Star Wars, You're right a blade runner um. But I'm gonna go controversial and say, is the last time I found Harrison Ford very hot? Because that's when working working? Girl, Yeah, he's he is very attractive and working and he's an asshole and working.

He's like a hot yuppie dick. So good. And right after that is Last Crusade, and I feel like, already by Last Crusade, I'm out again. I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you guys that I think Harrison Ford ninety three fugitive Harrison Ford. I this is the reason being that I feel like he was he was at a point in his life in his career where he he was so serious and it was like almost like a repellent

kind of seriousness. He's mean, he's on the run and like he was, you know, a victim, and I felt like there was more complexity for me and he was more accessible to me. And the fugitive. Maybe I prefer people who were like who look like they have suffered a lot. He didn't kill his wife. He didn't kill his wife. Boy, you know, he almost should have at that just that movie for the first time. It's a fantastic, very good It's a really good movie. The Fugitive. That's

night College recommendation for the Emily. When do you think Harrison Ford try and skirt the question? Emily was the most hot? Um? My favorite Harrison forward is Joan Didion's carpenter Slider. Uh. Yeah, no, that's that's that's above and beyond my my favorite. Uh. Those pictures of him at their beach house Inventura are like both idyllic because the house looks beautiful and the life just looks incredible, like smoking a joint, building at deck, and you're just He's

wearing these flattel shirts building their fucking deck. It's just like kind of stereotypical, like female fantasy, but also just so so specific obviously surrounded by succulents and the central coast. It's like, I have a deck and like occasionally the animal noises coming from under the deck. I'm just like, what's the point of a deck. It's like, you you build fake ground on a platform above perfectly good ground, and you create the space of unknowns. You better watch

out because Harrison Ford might be Yeah. I think Harrison Ford circuit his deck, his deck, habitation to say pot smoke like wafting out possibly being like a stone or carpenter, and then like meeting you know, every single director in the course of your job and becoming Harrison Ford movie star feels like like such a I mean, it's like kind of I don't know kids media in a way that I don't feel like happens anymore. But it's also

like the ultimate like attractive boy, privileged story. I think he's a very good actor because he doesn't seem actorly, which is obviously really hard to do. And the person I always compare him to him I had because I'm a million years old, is Joel McCrae, who was another like a guy who grew up in l a and just like became an actor, but had worked on a ranch where you're like, wow, that seems like they found that guy on like a ranch like building a deck, and now he's in a movie. But do you think

Harrison Ford has a sense of humor? I mean I'm concerned. I don't know. Fun is maybe not his thing now that you mention it. I mean, Leanna Jones has a sin. That's the thing. Is he tricks you into thinking he does. But I've never seen Harrison for like really cracking. But it's possible life something. Now he's in the like the take in zone. He's like an angry father. Yeah, but maybe that's me. Honestly, maybe I just revealed that that's like,

you know, the beginning of his angry father phase. Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't say it's what I'm like. Emily likes him like unmolded clay, like taking like him looking looking, you know, fresh and young, a little potential. Hey, guys, you know, actually I think my real answer might be that I think he's the most hot in American graffiti. Yeah,

where he's just like kind of that's most unmolded. Yeah, he's so that's when you're just like, this guy should be the biggest movie star in the world because he's shining. He's just so hot. He's like McConaughey and dazed and confused. He's just like maybe that's just my fantasy for someone hot to pull up in a car. Well, thank you, thank you caller for this question, which is inspired I feel like the liveliest hornyest debate so far on Nightcall for only a few episodes, and I'm not saying that

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Mother for a really long time. I wanted to watch it at home because that's how I prefer to watch my Aronofsky movies. And um, I couldn't see it for a really long time because I cut my eyeball and right, and then tell us more about how you cut your eyeball.

You don't want to know. I do want to know. So, like years ago, my son was a toddler, and he was gesticulating, he was telling a story, and one of his bad parents hadn't cut his fingernails in a bit, and he accidentally sliced my eyeball and huh and then but then it healed. I got a contact lens vantage. But then, um, I scratched my eye like you know, just with you know, like itched my eye and it really hurt, and I thought like I must have some

sand in my eye or something. And eventually, like long story short, there had always been some kind of roughness left over from the first injury, and then it like reopened. I'm so sorry if you're eating something right now, or even if you're just having a body or yeah, it's terrible. It was a terrible experience. It's a good body horror lead until that's the thing is. I was like, all I wanna do is watch Mother, because I know it's gonna it's just gonna be this like Carnival of body horror.

But I can't. And the way that they try to speed up healing with your eye is they put a plus cental bandage on it, so it's like a slice of freeze dried like placenta, amniotic cells, I don't know, and then makes the contact they put that on and then they put the contact lens on top to try

to facilitate healing. But whether it was the the idea of this or there was something in it that my eye didn't like, it was like I got home and I thought I'll be fine, and almost ten minutes after I got home, I had to be rushed back to the eye doctor and they had it was just a nightmare. They had to give me like valium there like your body rejected. It rejected the placenta, it rejected the place. Say so it was the plot of Mother, but I couldn't see mother, like given birth a couple of times.

So you've like I am my mother exclamation out. So I would think the placenta on the I would just be after that, just like like nothing. I just like that you like high on your list. Once you're I accepted the placenta and you could see again in your vision, wasn't at risk? You were like time to watch mother. This is what these things were a mother? Yeah, Um, what did you guys think of mother? Um? I loved

how much Molly hated Mother before she hadn't seen it. Um, she was like really out there, like vocally anti Mother and then she saw and she was like, I love Mother. Everyone should know by now that my thing is vocally taking a position and then completely changing my mind and being really annoying. If you're like, well, you didn't just change your mind, you just hadn't seen the movie. I was just like, this sounds bad because it's an allegory and I hate allegories. Oh my god, I hated this movie.

I why, I can't believe that it's even worth arguing about, Like it's just it's something. I was just shocked to how many people thought that there was something, like even people who were like, it's not good, but it's fun to talk about. No, it's not fun to talk about. It's just like a college kid stab at at fucking like profundity about like it's the Bible but it's also

Mother Okay. But like I say, you don't take any of the allegory at its face value as being about Mother Earth because it's obviously just about Darren Aronofsky dating Dennifer Lawrence. That was my preferred read. And on that note, it was like really interesting, Yeah it was. I mean, he was like, okay, it's kind of about global warming. At one point, I think he spoke with Indie Buyer and answer he literally, I was at the premiere of it in New York City, humble brag at Radio City Musical.

But it's not a humble brag because I didn't have a good time. And uh oh there's like another fun anecdote from this event. But before it started, he came out and introduced the film You should never have Darren Aronofsky introduced his own film because he will ruin um. And he was like, you know, I just want to say that this movie is about all mothers, but it's

also about our mother. And then like dropped the mic and walked off, and I was like, is this also where he handed out like that weird prayer the prayer card by the prayer Yeah, is it? Rebecca soln like and yeah, I'm only had on handing out a prayer card at all. It's not the content of the prayer card. It's the pairing of a prayer card with a movie, Like you have to separate the art from the artist. Guys. Uh now, you know, I feel like this is a

topic we will continue to explore throughout this podcast. Is people you might not like making things you like sometimes I kind of thought, I was like, my first impression of Mother was I was like, Oh, it's about capitalism, which I guess is how I come at everything that seems like dense at this point, because I'm like, when I read the corrections, I was like, I love this book. It's about birth order. And then I was like, wait, it's about capitalism, So now I just assume every day.

But I was like, oh, see, she married this idealist who's an artist, but now that she's pregnant and a homeowner, she's kind of a nimby and she doesn't want him to invite in the new ideas because all of a sudden they threatened her safety. And then she's having to deal with her own decay and the house is decay, the inevitable decay. And I got really into that. And then I was like, oh, it's about global warming, but I'm not going to let it take that away from

me because I still believe I'm right. Like it's like one of those movies where I don't feel guilty at all, just being like, it's about whatever I think it's about. Because I thought Jennifer Lawrence was really good and it was like a good parable of like on Views and Hollywood, and I I also really like Black Swan. I love Black Swan. See, this is the thing. I'm not anti. You are more anti Aeronofsky than I am. I thought Jennifer Lawrence gave a better performance in Mother than Natalie

Portman did in Black One. Personally, I don't know. I thought she was good. I was I just had to be freaked out and scream and then get like the ship beat out of her at the end, which was painting. She did a lot of paint. She just wanted to paint and brace the sink. Also, it was just like

it was hilarious. It was the best part of the movie for me is when all of these terrible house guests keep coming through and she's in a room and this older gentleman comes by and like tries to come into the room, and she's like, what are you doing. He's like, sorry, I was just exploring, And I just laughed so hard for some reason, and I was like,

that's this is such a slice of life. Is a cinema veritae because it's like, can you imagine how horrible that would be if someone just key me into your house and came into your bedroom and they're just exploring. That was like obviously trying to be very Rosemary's Baby, just like all the weirdos are taking over in your space.

The most recent time for me that that Mother came up was a friend of mine works in film production, and she was on some shoot and they were she was in a production van and like having a really bad time because she was I think the only woman on the production and was just stuck in this van, and she decided to check out a lighthearted comedy called Mother. No, No, it's just that all the guys in the van. Well, first she had to overhear like a whole thing about

how like do women really want to be cinematographers? Though, like this whole discust, like dumb, sexist like discussion between a bunch of like white film bros. And then uh, and then it got to how Mother was the best movie of seventeen and it was better than Moonlight, and I was like, hold that against Tess and I liking Mother. Yeah, I know, I'm just saying that like that this is

I was just like, get out of the car. This is in the same space working I like a lot of things that like film bros like and like, they can still be wrong and I can still like them, you know totally. I'm just saying, like the fight club, Yeah, my, you know what fight clubs about is a capitalist. My husband did not like Mother, and he insisted didn't know he didn't like Mother. Really yeah, I think he had high expectations in mine were low. But he he then

made us watch the episode of twin Peaks. Got a light. I think, um, episode eight, it's it's so scary eight or three, it's the one with a lot of nuclear it's the black and white one. Yeah, And and he was like, see this is Mother but better. And I was like, oh me, it's not at all. It's not at all like Mother but better. I mean, I think people, I think the end of Mother is like a silly mess. Again, like I did have low expectations for it that I

was just sort of like laughing and enjoying funny. It's supposed to be funny. The end when there's like people chanting like cc POE or something, I was like, you don't know what you think this is about, which is why you're just going to tell everyone's about global warming? Like I I really appreciate their being movies like Mother, because I'm like, this kind of failed, but I really

enjoyed it. And I also it made me think like, well, I just want every filmmaker to make their kind of Mother where they just kind of lose their train of thought, but there they have to keep finishing it and keep going and it makes it weirder. Yeah, that's the only aspect of Mother that I like is that it was a paramount release, which is like, like, somebody let him make this. It's like a big budget, silly like trying to make a Bergman movie. Well, it's like he's trying

to make a large bound tree or a movie. This is the thing. Mother is not that extraordinary for how weird it is, Like there's tons of weird shit out there. It's just interesting because it's a paramount. It was a large scale, like awards season released by a major studio. That is interesting and weird. It doesn't happen all the time because it was about like a weird the director actress relationship and how fucked up it is. But he also tried to deny that. I think that's because it's

what it was about. Reading He would want to the whole thing was so worshipful of Jennifer Lawrence, and she she glows and the way that the camera follows her,

it's like she's floating a lot of the time. And it was just I thought that was interesting because like he does kind of put her through these like humiliations and tortures, and it reminds, you know, he has a pensiant for doing that with especially actresses, but also as actors, and so it seemed like a very self aware commentary on like how he loves them and he respects them and he like distorts it about like dating like male artists who are like also insecure that they're like and

he I think Javier Barden's character is written to be so silly. I mean, like that was the poems, the poems he'd recite. But again I was like, I know real poets and they are just as justice us about what they do, like you giving a speech at a dinner like a funeral for someone you didn't really know, and just it's a that was a real scom So yeah,

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I think that we should devote a minute to Fraser. But this week we're going to have a different kind of Fraser minute. That's right, we're gonna talk about Fraser. The Fraser minute. It's the Brendan. I think it's still Fraser. That's I was struggling with this. Yeahh I think it is still Fraser. There was a really great profile of Brendan Fraser and where he's been. Uh that was in g Q. Who Zach Barron wrote it, right, Yeah, I

think Zach Barron wrote it. Um. It was a very well written profile, I thought, because it it's packed a lot of suspense in and um. Among the kind of revelations was that Brendan Fraser kind of stepped back from the spotlight after an incident at the two thousand three Hollywood Foreign Press Association. Oh, the head of the Hollywood

Foreign Press Association grouped Brendan Fraser at a party. He like grabbed his ass and then like put his whole hand in kind of yeah, I think that he the guy admitted to it in a book and he says he squeezed his ass and then Brendan Fraser was like, no, that's not what, like he grabbed my taint. Yeah uh, and then the guy has has denied it since then. Um, Brendan Fraser was just like, oh, yeah, it really sucked me up up. And he just talked about how like

throughout his career he like made movies. The reason he did so much physical comedy was because he was like a masochist and wanted to like put his body through the ringer in all these ways. And then he like fucked his body up real bad. And he said he put himself back together with like band aids and ice packs all the time when he was filming movies. Fucked

him up, The Mummy, The Mummy. He just kept doing movies with like more and more stunts and more stuff that involved like and then he said, like the climax was he was in this like bad Looney Tunes movie where he had to punch himself in the face playing and he was playing his stunt double. It was really

it was a confusing the end of Postmodernist. Definitely that movie. Yeah, it was like he was playing himself and he had to like punch himself in the face, and he was just saying how he really wanted to get it right, and then he punched himself in the face really hard and was like what am I doing? Um? And now he lives with like some horses. Yeah, he brought home a horse from a shoot from Mexico, I think, and brought home the horse because he felt like he made

this instant connection with the horse. He compares himself to the horse from Animal Farm. That's it's a very sad interview all at all, but he's like, yeah, you know the horse and Animal Farm. That's like the proletariat that just works and works and works. And then it's like body breaks down and it realizes it's like, shouldn't have done all the stuff it was told to do? Like

that's me and this horse that I rescued. He's always been so interesting because acting teachers, in my experience, having having taken some acting lessons that didn't work out very well, but they often cite him as one of their favorite actors, which always seemed kind of weird because you're like the Mummy. It's a good comedity. He's great. He was in Dogs. I didn't realize that his first role was in dog Fight.

Since this article has come out, I feel like everybody's been like, oh, like Brendan Fraser, I have like nice memories of Incino man, you know, he's very likable. And again I feel like Chris Pratt, Everyone's like, oh, Chris Pratt is like people trying to make another Brendan Fraser slash, make a make a new Harrison Ford, and it just doesn't work because it's like superficially the same things, but like, no, whatever that unknown quality is that still still came off

as a movie star though. And I think that the Chris Pratt thing is that there's he's he I always think of as the male equivalent of Jennifer Lawrence, where it's like this could be you, except he's like a little more attractive. That still seems like something Jennifer Lawrence could be. Jennifer Lawrence seems like funny and cool. Then Chris Pratt to me seems like somebody I would like not like at all and realize it. But I think the people who are meant to like be his demographic.

Do you think he's I also feel like in Jurassic World, which you know, I liked him, and Guardians the Galaxy fine, like I got when they were first being like he's Harrison Ford. I was like, okay, fine, But in Jurassic World, the way they try to make him Harrison Ford is just by having him be a dick the whole time, and it sucks. Han Solo is like charming, and I don't know, like why is it different when he doesn't.

It just is that Also, like the guy who wrote that movie is just like one of the biggest hacks the whole like working today, and he keeps getting these huge jobs and I totally forget his name and what his next thing is. But I think, yeah, did you see Passengers? No? I didn't see Passengers. Maybe we should all watch pass I mean that's the thing like that that that proves the point is that like they're the equivalent of each other. And when they're in the same movie,

it just like cancels. They cancel each other out, and it's like, y that nobody contradict Yeah totally, Hey we should take another night call. Yeah, let's take another night call. Yes, it looks like we have an email from we'll call him Joe. UM, and it says I am needing some help. My wife hates me and I need some attention. What do I need to do? She's into things that I haven't experienced before, and I have ruined our marriage. Help. Um. Wow, that's a real night call. Yeah, that is that is

a night call. An email form for sure. Um, I would like some more detail about the things that she is into that he hasn't experienced. But I feel like,

no matter what it is, I don't know. I feel like that that's an easy kind of thing to get hung up on, and I know that I have kind of experienced that kind of stuff before in relationships where it's like the difference of experience, especially like experience that gets weighted a lot, like you know, drugs or sex or something like that gets like like becomes very big in in the other person's mind. Sometimes Joe should talk to his wife. Yeah, yeah, it's funny that Joe. I mean,

I think you have to break it down his wife. Okay, his wife hates him. He needs some attention. What do I need to do? She's into things that I haven't experienced before, and I've ruined our marriage. So these are two very separate. So what what's an experience gap that's easy to close? Right? If the issue is like my wife's done all the payote and I haven't done enough. I like that you go to drugs, I'm assuming he's

talking about sex. Is it just easier to talk like what if the experiences are like she wants to make out with women and that's like something he can't but he's made out with women. But yeah, I think we just think to take this as like an abstract like difference in experience. I'm assuming that she she's been around the block or something and something whatever block that maybe she has been around it more. If she's been around the block and she ended up with you, Joe, though,

that means that, yeah, she doesn't miss the block. That was aformed choice exactly. I don't ignore that, And I mean and and don't open by saying that she hates you, because that feels like you're you. Then that's a very self defeating projecting. Yeah, maybe you haven't ruined things if

she's still your wife. Yeah, if you need attention and you feel as though there's an experience gap probably you need to prepare yourself for one of you know, for two different outcomes, one being that you should try a new experience together, right that she's never experienced. Don't laugh, Mother, I'm sorry. I was just maybe they should watch mother

to well. Honestly, I mean you, I think you think of something that neither of you has ever done, and you try it together with the knowledge that you're at a very rough place in your relationship, and that will either bring you together or drive you apart. And it could be perceived differently by the two of you. So it doesn't have to be drugs, but they could you could um, but yeah, you could want to say I couldn't hurt. How did you know? No, it could hurt.

That's it's not true. You should and definitely not be a skydiving or if what about like going to where have you not been? Portugal? Maybe be like, we're going to try and save our marriage. We've never been a Portugal. We're gonna do peyote in Portugal and adopt a porcupine. We're gonna do all the peas that we've never done. And then if it doesn't work out, you know that you try it. I do recommend going someplace different together. Yeah, it's good to get out and be in a new

environment with your partner. I would say do something that requires at least logistics possible, because that is a recipe to be screaming on each other, especially if you're you're in a kind of raw and tender place. Um, don't go camping in other words, Um, and don't like try to go to a city and like do something we have to do all this stuff and everything, Like, do something kind of simple and low key but still unfamiliar and not a stay cation get out. Yeah, but also,

you can't ruin a marriage. You can only you can make bad decisions that show you things about yourself and your partner that mean that maybe it's no longer your time to be together. But I don't think you should take the blame on yourself. You've ruined the marriage, like you made choices authentic to who you were probably and your wife is having an emotional response that's authentic to who she is. So now you just have to figure out if it's an external problem or if it's you know,

an internal problem. But regardless, Joe, you're gonna be okay. We got your back. Joe. Yeah, we're your friends here. Good. It was nice of you to reach out. Yeah, thank you for being vulnerable. Should we have another um night email? So this one comes from Amanda. Hi'all found your podcast from Astonishing Legends today and I thought i'd pitch you

guys a question. Last week, during a late night of knitting, listening to a post apocalyptic audio book, and drinking wine, I found myself Yeah, I found myself googling appropriate level of apocalyptic paranoia and pulling out reference books to cuddle with. Google was unable to provide a satisfactory answer. Neither was

the wine. Any insights, Thanks, Amanda. Um, I love this question. Yeah, I feel like it really Uh is also maybe directed to Tess, who is my most post apocalyptic strategy googling friend. Probably Well, I am a mother. You know all of us are scared about the apocalypse, right, guys. Yeah, but I feel like, again, you're the great smith, you like do the most research until like, what's the actual plan? Well, I was just saying I've noticed there's like a strong

uptick and leftist preppers. Hmmm. Um. And I watched the documentary Ones about people who live in their r vs and they all like clarified that they were like hippies, not preppers. But I think now we're getting more of both. Can I briefly just say that I misinterpreted this question initially to basically be asking our opinion on wine pairings for apocalypsic anxiety that such an I have one too well. I would also like to preface by saying that this

came up recently. I was at sun Dance and there's a movie, UM, directed by Reading Mrano. She did like the first three episodes I think of Handmade's Tale, but this movie is called uh oh God, I think We're Alone now and Um. One of the aspects of it which I did like is that it kind of posits that the wine would be one thing that would be

great about the apocalypse because it doesn't go bad. If you're one of the last survivors of the apocalypse and you're just wandering around like all the wine is at your disposal and it's it's totally fine and fine enough at last. Emily, what's your wine recommendation for the apocalypse? I mean, I think that you have to go for red. I would say I would say something earthy, because like something silty and earthy. Uh. I had this wine once in Montreal that I feel like and I wish I could.

I took a picture of it, and I would bring it up if I had been more prepared, but I feel like it was. It was definitely a French wine and it was it was really gritty in a way that I felt like, this feels like to taste like dirt. Yeah, it literally did taste like dirt and it was great. Uh. And it tasted like my glass like an open grave. Yeah. Yeah, test what's your apocalypse one? I have? The high end recommendation is a good Alborno, because I really like Alberino's

when I'm like dealing with with ship. This is very Fraser. It's so Fraser, it's the Fraser minute that goes on. But I have to recommend this cheap one because part of the deal with weathering the apocalypse is that you don't know how long you'll be stuck inside or wherever you are. So if you happen to be in the room with the wine and a wine corkscrew, then you would want like a lot of it. And so this one's like six dollars at Trader Joe's and it's the

Schloss v. Brick Rose sect. And I'm telling you guys, because it's it's not the kind of wine that you like sit with and enjoy too much. It's the kind of wine that you could if you needed to drink in a panic of just like hugging it, like just get it down. But it's bubbly, so it's also not just like a depressing, a stringent thing, little fruity, pretty dry.

At the same time, I feel like if I drank a magnum of bubbly wine really fast, I would throw up so fast because the worst thing that could possibly happen has already happened, and so you would be almost anxiety less about your body probably, you know what I mean. It reminds me of the episode of bow Jack where there's an earthquake and yeah, the apocalypse, basically the apocalypse. Yeah, Jessica Veal's there, Yeah, and uh and they're stuck in there basically trapped in the house with just like a

room full of champagne. Yeah. That was a great episode that had nothing to do with the rest of the season. We have great season. Yeah, I mean, it served a plot function, but it was also just like as a standalone. I think about that episode all the time. Yeah, made

me like Jessica biel a lot. I have to say that I was in a in a conversation with some friends of mine the other day about what you would do in a nuclear in the event of a nuclear catastrophe, and I had read online that you you want to go inside and shower but not scrub with a mild soap, and then go underground with as much cement above you as so, like a subterranean parking lot would probably be ideal, and then you have to wait for like forty eight hours.

I think that's so funny though, because I'm like, when you say subterranean parking lot, my first thought is like, but then, what if there's an earthquake right exactly, which there inevitably probably would be, but it would be retrofitted. But but then my neighbor was like, no, you get on a dirt bike right after it happens and you go to Reno. And I was like, but you wouldn't know. You could be driving like right into the mushroom cloud

on a dirt bike. Maybe he thinks that because of the stand, because in the stand it was from this everybody goes a lot to feel trash can man or whatever isn't okay. Well, we're all gonna meet at the Atomic Museum in Las Vegas. But when the event happens, and then we'll just re we'll redo it like San Junipero and mel Monet will be our new president. We'll hang out in the historic bunker they have there and we'll drink all of the pink wine. I'm very excited

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