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It's an LA Night Call as Tess recounts airplane adventures, Molly sings the praises of Scream Queen Toni Colette in Velvet Bizzsaw, and Emily returns from Sundance with Emily's Movie Corner. This episode is sponsored by: [Rothy's](https://rothys.com/) (PROMO: Nightcall) [Zola](https://welcome.zola.com/allproducts_alldevices_50/?pkey=callpod&) Call in to Night Call at 240-46-NIGHT Articles and media mentioned this episode: Film, [Hail Satan?](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9358044/?ref_=fn_al_tt_4) Film, [We Are Little Zombies](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9358120/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1) Film, [The Lure](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5278832/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1) Film, [Velvet Buzzsaw](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7043012/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1) Film, [Nightcrawler](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2872718/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1) Film, [Gremlins](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087363/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1) Film, [A Bucket of Blood](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112594/?ref_=fn_al_tt_2) Film, [House of Wax](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0397065/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1) Film, [Okja](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3967856/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1) Article, Vulture, ["Velvet Buzzsaw’s Dan Gilroy on Bringing a Buzz Saw to an Art Fight"](https://www.vulture.com/2019/02/velvet-buzzsaws-dan-gilroy-on-his-art-world-horror-satire.html) Film, [Welcome to Marwen](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3289724/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1) Art Installation, Michael Heizer, ["Levitated Mass"](https://collections.lacma.org/node/424258) Art Installation, Michael Heizer, ["North, East, South, West, 1967/2002"](https://www.diaart.org/collection/collection/heizer-michael-north-east-south-west-19672002-2003-174-1-4) Art Installation, Cristo, [The Umbrellas](https://christojeanneclaude.net/projects/the-umbrellas) Forum, Reddit, [r/legaladvice](https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/) Film, [The Fugitive](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106977/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1)  Film and Book, [Scent of a Woman](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0105323/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1) by [Giovanni Arpino](https://www.powells.com/book/-9780141193182) Film, [Profuma Di Donna](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072037/?ref_=fn_al_tt_2) Film, [The Firm](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106918/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1) Film, [Heat](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0113277/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1) TV Show, [The Fugitive](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0056757/?ref_=fn_al_tt_2) Film, [Beautiful Boy](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1226837/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1) Film, [Can You Ever Forgive Me](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4595882/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1) Film, [Ben is Back](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7545524/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1) Film, [Traffic](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0181865/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1) Film, [Mope](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6927492/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1) TV Show, [Misfits](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1548850/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1) Film, [Boogie Nights](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118749/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1) TV Show, [King of Mask Singer](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_of_Mask_Singer) TV Show, [Search Party](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5460226/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1) Podcast, [Who? Weekly](https://www.whoweekly.us/) "Night Call" by [4aStables.](https://www.4astables.com/)

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It's one one am in an overrunning sewer in the fowls of Los Angeles, and you're listening to Night Golf. Hello, and welcome to Night Call, a podcast for your strange days and lonely nights. My name is Emily Oshida. I am in Los Angeles and with me not on the other end of the line, but in front of my own god damn face, I have Molly Lambert and sitting across from Emily and I Hello, it's Test Lynch, of course,

Meet Space, Meet Space. Welcome back, both of you. I have been here as I generally am in Los Angeles, Test, and I've been you and Toss on jet set in journeys. Emily, why don't you tell us about your journey to Sundance. I was at the Sundance Film Festival in Park City, Utah. Um. It was actually like the chilliest time I've had there because I wasn't drinking and so thus was not really going to that many parties and also had an express

pass so I could just like waltz into movies. I mean, like, it's not a humble brag, it's a it's a brag bag. And the only reason I'm bragging about it is because, um, I don't know if any like film Twitter people. It's like the Disneyland fast passim Twitter kind of, but it's specifically political this year because like famous troll of film Twitter Jeff Wells Uh, there was a kerfuffle a couple a couple of months ago because he his long standing

UH accreditation and express pass were revoked. Do you guys know who he is? Like an idiots he's a crazy person. Yeah, and he's just an absurd heman bean, But he kind of is one of these people who's just he started off in the trades and now he has his own blog and he just goes to all these festivals. Everybody will just like welcome home with open arms. And it's just completely unclear why because he's kind of like a senile dinosaur, are people like afraid of him? Is that why?

No idea. I think it's just like old time's sake, like what happens when film Twitter congregates and meat Space um karaoke. There's a lot of like, oh that's what you look like. We're very a post body crowd. But I did get to meet like several people that I had not met before, like you know, just sit and waiting for the movies. So that was fun. But see some good movies. Um, yeah, I saw a couple of

good movies, Emily's Movie Corner. I saw a lot of movies, and I didn't get to see the ones I was most excited to talk about here because I didn't get to see Penny Lane's of like Satanic Church. We love Penny Lane. Penny Lane Come on Night Call. Yeah, I know, documentary director who makes all the best documentaries. Yeah. Um, that one I really wanted to see. Hopefully I'll get to like maybe see it on a screener later or something. But it was called Hail Satan and I heard very

good things about it. Um. Probably my favorite, like my favorite as far as Nightcall picks goes, would be a movie called We Are Little Zombies from Japan and it's just a completely bananas thing about these kids who they all lose their parents in various incidents and accidents and then they decide to form a band to help them

refine their emotions. Um. It's like stylistically totally insane, like every scene is shot a different way, and there's a song in it that they sing that has been stuck in my head pretty much since the day I saw the movie. It's very good and it doesn't have any distribution yet, but hopefully it will. But I was like comparing it to the Lure um which have you guys seen the Mermaid The Mermaid one? Yeah, you guys have

to see the Lure. The Lure is bananas. But that when I saw that at Sundance the year it was there, it was one of these things where I was like, I can't believe this is here, Like in between the bittersweet family dramas and coming to age stories, there's this completely insane vampire musical, like vampire mermaid musical and that's kind of how little. Yeah, it's a full on musical. It takes place in the eighties at like a nightclub

and they and their vampire there. Yeah, well they eat men. Okay, wait, so they're like sirens. Yeah they are horror yeah, and things that eat people and Sundance and Sundancel bus songs. Did you did you guys watch? I watched its does not have the chance to watch it yet, she knows nothing about it. We got a picture on kind of picture on it. I was quite excited to see this one, even though you know, sometimes it's like you get very excited to see a movie at Sundances, especially recently, then

it comes out like a week before. Oh it's on Netflix. It's going to be out on Netflix like next week. So there's just that kind of like, oh, do I really need to go see it out here? But I did. I went to the first showing because I was stoked. And it's like Jeff r Jake Dilan Hall is in his like weird period right now, or his cage period. That's what I said. Yeah, he's like fast forwarding to Nick cage zone. Nightcrawler was a real Yeah. That was

kind of the beginning of it, I think. And that was Dan Gilroy, who directed Velvet buzz Saw, which is like an art world horror satire and l a art world horror satire about evil paintings that kill people. Sound so good? Here, let me pitch it to you even better. You can watch it on Netflix at home. There we go. I am solved. I watched it last night. Yeah, after

Adventure to Adventure. We're on that later on that later, uh, And yeah, I thoroughly enjoyed it, especially because I was watching it at home and as movies are meant to be watched. I mean, the thing about it is it's very hard to parody the art world because it is so ridiculous, especially the l a art world. I was like, some of these things are crazy, but like not crazier than anything that I've actually been to. Yeah, that's like this. Yeah.

I think the most fun that Gilroy has with it, and the actors too, is like the looks of people, like it's just tightening, Like Tony Collette especially, she had Tony Collette scream Queen. Tony Collett. Yes, makes an appearance as like a rich art gallery lady. She's like she was a curator at a museum, but then she got a job like being an art advisor for some wealth people there, so certainly she's like swimming in the money.

And it's like and they talk about like, oh, the rich people that have these paintings that like nobody even ever sees because they're just in crates and like, yeah, she's like I used to think that was bad, but now I'm like, who cares to me that money? As long as I get paid? And those are not the pictures that kill people though, and Renee Russo is in it. Everybody has a great character name. A lot of names are Banana's name is Gretchen, I think, but Renee Russo

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you know, nitpicky, many nitpicky things about it. Well, it makes its point with like a sledgehammer, and then it keeps Who's going to say? Is that? Also? Uh? Legendary character actor Dick Miller just passed away. R I P. Dick Miller um beloved star of Gremlins, and but he's in a bunch of Roger Corman movies, including this movie

Bucket of Blood. A Bucket of Blood, which is like a fifties horror movie about a beat nick coffee shop guy who accidentally kills somebody and then like covers them in concrete and becomes like a super hip artist because of it. It's like House of Wax. Yeah, but it's like it's just like that. It's like an art world parody where it's like, then he has to kill more people to make more sculptures. One does. Um, and his character's name is like Marvin Paisley or something. It felt

very it's very spiritually related to this movie. Marvin Paisley this movie is silly, I sort of. My only complaint is I wish Jake Jilan Hall had gone even more Nick Cage with it. It was a little more restrained than I expected. But don't you have to save some of that for later? Well he didn't Nick Cage, didn't go full NICKI he's already gone full Nick Cage for oak Jah nightcrawlar. I feel like in Nightcrawler too, I was just like, Oh, you're just like be a weird

character actor. Well. I interviewed Dan el Roy last week. Um, you can find my review of the film and my interview with Dan Kilroy on vulture dot com. But I asked him, you know, just about how much of this character was what you wrote and how much was what Jake brought to the table. And like, the stuff that Jake brought to the table was apparently like he needs to write like a mini Cooper clubman. Like he had the car specifically that he drove, and then he had

a flip phone. And the quote was something like, I like tradition and morph as a traditionalist. He has a flip phone, the old tradition. Yeah, he's playing a character who is based on Jerry Saltz. Yeah, I don't know. I mean he's based on Jerry Saltz maybe as far as like the influence that Jerry Saltz wheels like. I was actually just recently because I had to review um,

Welcome to Marwin. I was going back and looking at Yeah. Yeah, well, so like that was like a big outsider art story where like suddenly this is like the biggest thing happening in the art world, and Jerry Saltz was actually really big part of that, like he wrote about it in the voice. So what you're saying is that Velvet Bus

is in the Marwin verse. Yeah, I mean it is about like a like a guy with a tragic backstory who has these cursed paint It to you, they like find a dead guy's paintings and turn them into an art world star, and is also ridiculous. He was also silly, and then the paintings turned out to be haunted and they kill everybody who seeks to profit off of his work. So anybody who like is trying to make money off of his art, but like through other artwork, though it's

not through the paintings themselves. The paintings themselves, they just like hallucinate that they're bleeding, but then they get eaten by other artworks. So like Tony collect gets eaten by like this giant orb and uh, which is actually the best scene on the whole movie. And and Dan Gilroy told me that she screamed so loud that she couldn't hear when they had called cut the best scene in

the movie for sure. Yeah, there's a lot of like I mean it basically not to spoil it, spoiler alert, it builds up to a bunch of big set pieces of people getting killed off. That's all that you're there for sculptures, which just really opens up the possibilities of like other sculptures that could kill people. Yeah, what would

you like to be killed by the most? Honestly that Lachma outside of Lacmather's that giant suspended boulder over the walkway and I'm always just waiting it's just gonna happens. That's like even more murdery than anything in the movie. Brutalist. Yeah, it would be kind of cool to be like killed by a Sarah, like to just be like buried or like entombed. Oh, that's a scary idea. There's something there's

a part. I mean, I won't go to into spoilers, but it's a lot of you know, if you've ever been in a gallery and been like that thing looks like it's kind of dangerous in a weird way, this is the movie for you. It's very sold man, that's great. Yeah, enjoy a night called Delight. Oh you know, it would be a really good thing to be in a horror movie. Um,

this is it. I think it's a DIA beacon. But there are these um I forget who does them, but there these holes that are in the ground and they they cord in it off so you can't walk up close enough to see the bottom of the hole. So it just looks like it could be an endless hole. That's uh that that? Yeah? I would. I would go diet like Clai's Oldenburg, Like was that who it was? He did floor burger and stuff. You know. Actually went to an art installation once that killed somebody? Really that

I think about. It was funny anymore. It was the umbrellas on the crystal umbrellas. Oh yeah, wait right did they kill somebody? Yeah? Like the crystal umbrellas there were some and I think hand and then in California. There were like blue ones in Japan and yellow ones in California, and it was like we were on a road trip and we like stopped and saw them, but it was like that crazy stormy day and we left because it was so windy. And then later that day one of

them fell on somebody. Oh my god, and a hey, speaking of things that can kill you, can I tell you guys that I took a plane trip. Hey, yeah, please clap now. This was my first plane trip and it actually I took one to New York. But I'm terrified. I really hate to fly, but it was it was

really great. Um. I flew Alaska Airlines and I was before we started recording, I was like just saying how much I enjoyed my Alaska Airlines not even sponsoring us, but we're saying to last week we were talking about the glory of Golden age air travels described by people who mostly our parents. And then some a nightcall are very generously. Should I say who it is? Hold on? Well, they sent us a really good we got some pictures. I took umbridge at the idea that planes have staircases

inside of that and they but they did. And then I don't know. I've been on one that has a staircase, fancy, but I didn't get to go up the staircase. It was like you have to. I don't know what was upstairs. I think I was on a Kalumn flight that had the lounge upstairs. So cool. Yeah, but yeah, we got sent these these pictures of the stairs, and now that

I know that my parents didn't invent those, that's nice. Um. But I went to d C and it snowed, which was awesome, but also um, outside of my hotel, which was right, but it was like pretty close to the to the White House area, I don't know. Uh, there was this little park with nothing in it really, but there was this guy. We had to pass through the park.

We were going to a museum, and there was this guy who was surrounded by pigeons and squirrels and we were like, oh, you must just be throwing bird seed on the ground, And then we saw that they all of the pigeons would come up to him and climb up his body and so he was like covered in pigeons. He had peanuts like in the shell that he would crush, and then all of these peanuts would come and squirrels would come hang out on his shoulder and I went over and I was like, can I get in on this?

And I didn't get in on it, So I got to be covered in pigeons. That's my nightmare. Speaking of nightmares, picture I put some on my Instagram. My kids got to hold the pigeons, My husband's got to hold the pig, my husband's my husband singular got to hold the pigeons, and I got to hold a squirrel my husband's my But it was amazing. Although it was if you let the birds cover you, you're all married. It's true, yeah, as as is customary and my but yeah, it was.

It was awesome, even though growing up in New York it was like that's as such. Everyone's like, are you crazy? Broke the pigeon taboo? Yeah I did. I was wearing gloves at these cold Yeah, you were covered. I didn't touch about your skin, what about your hair? They were in there. You know that pitchcock was there. I'm not I'm not going to repeat right now my nightmare about about pigeons, which happened to me. I mean, but it's

not it's it's just gross. It's not like baroque It's just that in Rome, when I was a teenager, my mom was staying there working on she was like doing her dissertation. So h we had this apartment and and near the end of our stay, we're just like we kept getting these little tiny bites and stuff. And then we realized that there were these like mites that came

into the apartment. And they came in because the pigeons were like roosting outside the bathroom window, like like we hadn't they were so tiny we couldn't see them, but as soon as you looked closer, you could just see all the little mite you know. I had on my back porch and I thought they were really cute until I looked it up and learned about bird and then I thought that I like got super just a hypochondriact,

that I had bird mites. And I was telling tests that I was like reading the internet a lot to learn about like what were the symptoms, and that there were definitely some people who really had it, but there were also some people who had crystal meth psychosis, yeah,

and they thought their skin. It was like it was like the symptoms were so similar that it was like people were like, well, I'm like, feel itchy all the time, and God, I figured that I'd been on a plane, so I had already done the scariest thing in the world. I was like, I'm gonna go for it. But also it was freezing cold, and I think like later, when I was like, was that smart test, I was like, but so cold, then probably all the parasites were dormant.

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like an action thriller. It is, isn't it? So on the plane I think it was that on Alaska you have to pay for WiFi, but you can just get messages. So I couldn't do what I did last time, which was read six hours of the legal reddit forums. And I found there's another great form of entertainment called watching

a movie really cool you got? So I watched a bunch of them, but the best one that I watched was The Fugitive, which I'd seen like a hundred times, but for some reason, it hit the spots so well. And I know that Molly also watched a good nineties I've been watching a bunch of nineties. Well, one was the thriller I watched The Firm for the first uh, and I watched sent of a Woman, which is not a thriller, but is uh. It's a grown up and it's like three hours long. It is three all of

these movies. Well, I watched two and a half. I think they're all two and a half. Yeah, I think. I always forget that Heat is three hours long. I was talking about watching Heat for this thing recently, But that's like a three hour that's as long as Lord of the Freaking Ring. I'll tell you what I like to do these movies. Just break them up into chunks and watch them over a few nights. Oh yeah, no,

of course was originally a TV series. But I have to say, speaking of anagram names, we got to relate. We got actually a bunch of good anagram names in these movies because Cosmo Renfro is Joe Pantalion Pantaliano's character's name in The Fugitive, and then in the Firm we have a very tollar. Come on, that's an anagram. What's it? Somebody, somebody run that for us. Yes, please. I didn't like Scent of a Woman. When did you see it? Like when it came out? I think, I think, I don't

think I saw. I think I saw it after it came out. It was on video. I was young, but I saw Yeah, as a teenager, I thought again, you saw it in the nineties. I was night and it won a bunch of Oscars, right, well, definitely, um, Tino won an Oscar and I think it was not. I think he won, but I don't know. I think it was nominated. I don't know if it want. I enjoyed it everybody, I've never seen it before. It was very he says, who are like seven different ways. He only

says it ten times in the movie. So many times he says it like who It can mean different things. Uh, And it makes more sense in the context of the movie because he's a colonel, saying, like, I've gotten how he went blind. He went on juggling grenade jug spoiler. It was just a much weirder and darker and stranger movie than I expected in every possible way. Sense of a Woman was a remake also, right it was. It was based on the Allion novel. No. I think it was also made into a I think it was an

Italian of Italian movie. Seven. Yes, I thought, um every thing that was always grossed at, like the idea, the scent of it's a bad name. But he's supposed to be gross. He's not supposed to be like, it's not supposed to be romantic. He's like an old purv and he's like a horrible person and it's funny. But I think there was the implication that you were supposed to be kind of charmed by him. Yeah. I was charmed by him. When he was like, you have just put

your face in a woman's hair and dyeing it. Now my hot take, which is um watching The Fugitive, I was like, wow, like most people really rooting for Harrison Ford in this movie rooting for Tommy Lee Jones. Really, yeah, you were you rooting for The One Armed Man? Also, no, I'm not rooting for the one the One Armed Man. He had like a weird career that he was in Star Trek, which I was like, huh, who is on Star Trek? I don't remember for his The actor's name

is Andreas Catsulas. He was in like a few of them. I think, um, like a few different iterations of Star Trek. I went deep. I was like, oh, I need to know everything because I had seen it, like I had watched it and kind of like not the mindset of paying much attention to it before because I find it

a very comforting movie. These are all comfort food. Yeah, but like, the most ridiculous scene in The Fugitive is when Cela it's like the flashback of like Ceil a Ward tossing rose petals in like a path up the stairs. When Harrison Dr. Kimbell is at his benefit and she goes home early and she's like, oh, wait up, and then she does the whole like roses thing. And I love like seeing a woman in that trope of the ridiculous because benefit, oh Molly, forget it's been a spoiler alert.

She leads though, she has the rose trail up to the bedroom. She's in the bedroom when our man comes in. He starts murdering her. Harrison Ford comes home to kill It's really been a while since, you know. But again, it's like these are putting nineties memes in context, you know, like we all know who are you all know the one armed man. It wasn't me, it was the one armed man. All these things they just now they make sense. I feel like I knew the firm from the rap

supergroup the firm. I didn't realized the firm was crooked and that was the whole thing. But also in the end, in the Firm, they like all they really do is overcharge rich people, which is really not that bad. Yeah, exactly, possibly good even I don't know. The best thing about The Firm is that it is like it has more plot than any movie ever, Like you forget every There's so many important characters. In the first there's like a billion side characters, and well they just actually I started

watch this is the Downfall of my style. I started watching it on Hulu and then on February first, they took it off, so I had to buy it to watch the rest of it, which I did. Um, A fine, a fine film. Well, I feel like that like zillion plot thing is something I remember a lot from movies that were like for grown ups novels. Yeah, yeah, And it was like and I remember thinking, how does anybody write something like this? How does anybody like keep all this stuff in check? And now they don't do it

any They just don't. They don't do it just now. They're just like if an idiot can't understand that, right. The Firm is very complex, it is, and it's like certain things I feel like are not they don't provide any follow through. There's like some red herring plot things in there where you are like, really spending a lot of my question. I'm trying to remember I was like looking back at I think I looked at like the Ebert review or whatever from when is it from nine?

So it's weird too because both The Fugitive and The Firm came out in ninety three, which is like just like No c G. I just like a bunch of grown ups and Christodonald's times dad has his solo movie night movies for Dad's Like my mom was way more into these movies than my dad's like us, yeah, exactly, Like that's like I guess it's less red hearings and it's more that you you invest all this. I mean,

it's like the Menution. There's it feels like it's based on a novel and like it's condensing a lot of things from a novel, right like you're going down there. I thought it is, but it has that feeling where you're like this probably was like three hundred more pages and here they're making it like a ten minute part of the movie. But there is a whole like side thing involving David Strathairn and Holly Hunter, like I was,

wasn't it Gary Busey, He's also involved. He's in the movie for five minutes, but it's the greatest five minutes of your life. And he was already So Jane Lynch is in The Fugitive, which like what as like a doctor, and Julianne Moore, he's like, she's build up there, but then she doesn't come into the movie until the very end where it's like she would Basically it's like a guest star on e er type role where she's like she's a doctor, she's literally the doctor. And then she's

like that guy saved that boy's life. And they're like Kimball and then away on the thing and somebody like chases him on the hospital. But Harrison Ford is in the hospital and he shaves and nobody's recognizing him as Kimball and he's just like, I'm a janitor and they're like, here take this boy ups outfit. Remember I saw a movie for the first time like two years ago. So good. It was good. But yeah, being on a on a plane watching a movie, it's pretty great. Watched three in

a row. Yeah. I also told Molly I watched Beautiful Boy, and really I haven't even watched people. Well, let me tell you this. I was watching. Yeah, I was watching Beautiful Boy, and like twenty five minutes in my mind was wanting it's a good movie, but my mind started wandering and I was just like, god, you know, I think I'm like clinically depressed. I was like, this this trip has really made me realize. Like I'm like on the way there and I'm just like this trip already

has made me realized. I was like, I think, like I don't even know, like I've never felt this sad, like this is awful and didn't connect it at all the fact that I was watching a movie that is so depressing, and then I turned on can you ever Forgive Me? I was like, I'm not depressed? Why I couldn't depressing because like watching a depressing movie at home, like you just are like in your but on the plane you're like riveted. It's dark, but it's like really funny.

I'm like not going to see Beautiful Boy until somebody forces me to or I have to for work, because it's just like why would I put myself through that? And there's like four movies this year about like white boys with drug problems and their parents are worried about them, and it's just like, wait, what are the other ones? Ben is ac is Lucas Hedges and his mom is Julia Roberts. And then there's another one that I'm forgetting about.

There's like three. Yeah, there's too many. There's just a lot, and they're all like it's all they're like movies about the opioid crisis, but like from a really privileged place. So remember in Traffic when they smoke math in the first scene. I remember being like, this is crazy. Oh wait, guys, I remember there's one movie that I saw at Sundance that I want to talk to you about. I told

you a little bit about this over text. But there's a movie they're called Mope that is about, uh, this incident in two thousand nine in the Valley where an aspiring male porn start um murdered a bunch of people at like a really like a very low rent studio with a Samurai sword and then jumped off a cliff um And it is like the story of that really it had this guy. Now I'm going to forget the name of the actor. Did you guys ever watch Misfits like the Tall like and I think the first season

not a documentary? No, no, no, no no, it's it's dramatized. Yeah, so it's like a super semi modern day like scuzzed out like Unites basically, except without the success and with

more murder um. But it's like I think that it was like an imperfect film, but it was It did the thing of like we're going to be bright, shining stars one day because it was like this broken friendship between these two guys who wanted to like become stars in the porn industry as like the Jackie Chan and Chris Tucker of porn like they because it was like this Asian guy and this black guy and they wanted to be like they want to do like buddy porn

movies together, but they apparently were just terrible, like they were very bad at their job, and then one of them lost his mind. But it was that sounds so honestly, this movie sounds so depressing. It is pretty depressing, Like it's pretty gross. How did it's all watching upbeat comedies people who don't know their cat, So that's like one of the most upsetting things in any movie. It was very very other cat, I have to say, though, so full disclosure of my mom is in Can You Ever

Forgive Me did not influence me loving this movie. In fact, I had a screener of it and didn't watch it for a long time. I'm sorry, Mom, but the cat saying I have a very very old cat. And when she was talking about her old cat and then she was like he's twelve, I was like, oh, get over yourself, Like they're really aging down this. This cat should have been a twenty five year old cat. The way that this cat was like refusing to eat the shrimp, needing

like seventeen different medications. I know, Molly, Yeah, tread lightly. Yeah, it's okay. There's a kitten. At the end. There was a cat in velvet bus saw that I was sure I was going to get it, and it doesn't. It's one of the only ones that's spared because it doesn't try to profit off art. Cat cats are okay. So last night, I'm in Los Angeles and one of my favorite things to do visiting Los Angeles is to go to we Spa, the Korean Spa, And we actually got

like a big group to go there last night. UM a few of our mutual friends, Molly, Molly and I and UM. It was one of the longest periods of time I've spent at we spa because I think we were there for about five or six hours in total, but the time just sort of melts. Have you ever been to no, I'm a never nude. Well, I feel like you would change your mind in this context, I don't think so. Well. Sometimes somebody comes in wearing a swimsuit and everybody just gives them the stink. Guy's always

been pushing. I would have been tempted because you guys were going, but I had just gotten off a plane. But it's great after a plane. I'm like, I, you know, if I eat dinner first. And Molly met a friend outside of who brought her own. Yeah, I made a really good friend outside. She was like a glamorous lady and she was like just started talking to me, and she was from Mountain Shasta. She was like, oh, you know, I've never been to this spa before. I'm used to

the Mount Shasta, the more luxurious spas um. But she was eating a whole dungeoness crab that she was like, oh, whole food, just having this great sale and crab. I bought a whole crab. I will say that friend of the podcast Andrew t often eats a whole crab as a meal and I respect it so hard it's amazing. Yeah. He was like, you know that thing where you have all those crab shells in your freezer that you used to make crab stock from all the crabs you ate

for lunch. And I was like, noes Andrew get his crabs from. I think maybe Harbor Seafood, one of the big sea food markets. He will correct me on what it actually is when he hears this. Anyway, check it out. We went, but we went to so that was just like the amuse bouche for our we spa experience. UM. But one of the great things at the Korean spas, I think several of them do this, but in the dry sauna and in some of the other areas as well.

UM they have a TV on UM and they have it turned to like KBS or like whatever, like in the Korean American tv UM station, and they happened to be playing the Korean mask singer on the tv UH, which we were shocked to learn is very different. We speculated about it on this show a few weeks ago because the American version is very steampunk. It's very Rocco. But the Korean version, the original version turns out to be much more low fi. It's like these paper masks.

The one that I watched it was it was there were too Disney princesses. Also the copyright feels a little bit part also. I was like, oh, Disney princesses, Yeah, are just going for it because it's very clearly that's what it is. But it was like, um, it is a It was a Jasmine versus Bell, and they were wearing these masks that are like they're very upsetting. They're

two dimensional masks. They're flat like paper masks, and the mouths are like huge, like like Riddler smiles, terrifying, Like it's scarier because it's like it's like a full body costume on the American version, but the crew version is like you're wearing a dress, a costume costumes person that you're being. And so the other one I saw was John Lennon versus Pavarotti, so weird. But the mouth is I think the upsetting thing because it's like you can't

end like a huge mouth because it's a screen. So that because they hold the microphone, and I think in the American one they have Mike's inside of the mask, but this one they just hold them Mike and so they have to be able to project through this gaping ma hole. Um. It's very but you guys liked this. It was pretty great. But it did make me think, like because the people that ended up being like, when one of them got unmasked, it was like, oh, she

was in some pop group from a few years. We were saying, like it made more sense because it was all like singers mostly, it seemed like right, and the American versions like tory spelling like that, don't that aren't singers. But there's such as yeah, but there's such a backlog of of former pop stars in Korea because like they go through these groups so fast because they have to like go for their military training, so there's like an

end date. There's like a four year five year period for all these groups, and so there's like a zillion people. It could be like who was like, oh, I remember that person who doesn't sing in a group anymore, but like I remember that they had this song or something, which is like a much different set of circumstances with which to like have possible mystery singers. Because there's so many Mystery Singers Korea. I feel like, uh, yeah, it was it was really interesting. Uh and it was inn

the sauna. It was an the sauna, and it was just like the best thing to watch when you're like through half litted eyes and you're just like sweating out everything. And it was at the same time we were there during the during the Super Bowl, so it was also the best thing to be watching instead of the Super Bowl. Yeah.

I was trying to miss the whole Super Bowl because of the no just because because yeah, except for the Saints, I don't like football, but you but this year I did feel like very invested in what happened with the Saints. I know, the Saints robbery, but ultimately well and it's

so weird. Apparently they had the lowest ratings ever this year, and it was like because it was like the first season with the Rams, I feel like somebody was saying, oh, like you're going to Los Angeles doing Super Bowl, there'll be so many like no, nobody cares about them, and there's still many more stadium in Inglewood. That's like displacing. Yeah, no, everybody makes it. But also like there are more Patriots fans here because everybody moved. I guess where those people

can go. Yeah, yep, So anyway, Uh no, no to football. I feel like I did my time football. And then I saw the super Bowl on the co ed floor and I was like, no, there's like and they were like all these dudes there to watch the super Bowl and I was like, stopped ruining my spat experience. So no, it's like the best place to walk because nobody was making any noise. No, but I went in the clay ball spat, which is like the spa with a million

tiny clay balls that you roll. Some kids like took a bunch of the clay balls and dumped them all over the floor and then they were throwing them at people. Uh. It was not It was not cool. There was just like everybody was just like laying back in the sauna watching the super Bowl, and I was like, just so and there was no way to face that. You weren't facing that TV. And I was like, don't bring me into reality. I come here to be like away from reality for five to six hours at a time. I

don't know. I was like, if there's any if there's any environment in which to watch that, I would like it to be without the sound and in a sauna, like just like it's happening off to the side and I don't need to like build a party around it. But it was great. We saw a minor Bravo celebrity um at the wee spot who so loud. And this is not a person that anybody thinks that I would be gasping about. It's not a person on a on

a current show nor a recent show. But you guys, we're not We're not going to say who it was, but I'll just say that I was very excited, but you were very excited, and well, I was saying the only people the other topics in today's episode might provide a hint, right, yes, you know me, you probably know who it is. The only people I have like genuinely freaked out about seeing in public. We're this person and uh uh this actor who's on do you guys watch

Search Party? Um, he plays like Aleah Shock, hats boyfriend and names John Reynolds, and he's just like, somehow the most low key funny person I've ever seen on a show, Like I mean, and he's on a show with like John Early and people who are like legitimately hilarious. But there's something about him that I just find to be so I don't know what, it is, just so funny. And I saw him at a party at Sundance last year and I did the full on thing that I never do with anybody whor I was like can I

take an? I like had a couple of drinks and I was like, I have to send it to my fiance. I got really excited to see local celebrity Dennis Woodroffe after the podcast. Was it last week? Two weeks ago? Recently, um on Melrose Uh, who is a guy who makes his own movies and drives around in a car advertising those movies that he makes. That's the big, the big trash car. He has paired it down, um he But I didn't even recognize him at first. He came in.

I was in the Starbucks, uh, and he came in and was like going around just asking people like, hey, do you are you a stoner? Are you just going up to people? And he came up to me and he's like, are you a stoner? And I was like instinctively like well yeah. He was like, well, you gotta check out my new movie channel for Stoner's I believe it's called Stoner Movies dot com um. And then I was like, what's your name? And he's like Dennist. I was like, wait, are you Dennis Woodrow? I haven't seen

you in years and I was so excited. So maybe we'll get him on the podcast sometimes. Um. He made a movie about aliens. Told me he had an abduction experience. Maybe, but I was that was the person who. I was like, he's sort of like the male Angeline something. And then when I looked it up, I found out this is very who weekly content? Um, shout out who Weekly? Uh? He I found out that Fergie and Josh do himel once once went is Angeline and Dennis Woodrop to a party?

Are you kidding me? That made me? Yeah, that's like night. I just I just flipped on them entirely. Uh. There's an Angeline billboard by where I'm staying in Hollywood, and I don't think i've seen one like so prominent in illustration. It's a new one and it's great. I don't want to boast, but I did park next to Angeline three weeks ago at Gelson's Park, right next to my beat up Camray, and I was so excited and I waved her and she waved back, and then my daughter raped her.

She waved to my daughter, and then my daughter was like when I grew up, I want a pink card. Just yes, you two can be like Angeline, not that much like the Angel. Wow that the the former Mayfair in Franklin Village. Um, I think that does it for this week's Night Call. When you hear this, it'll be after our our DJ show at gold Diggers. But thank you for coming. If you came out, it was so

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