Last Call At Night Cheers

for this episode, a lot of calls, more calls than ever. Um. It's We've got so much feedback from you guys after we announced that we were ending the show, and it, you know, really moved all of us. We were very grateful to all of the calls, all the emails we got from everybody, and so this episode is dedicated to y'all. We love you guys, and we're this has been such an adventure and such your ride to do this podcast, and so we want to send it off into the

night proper. How you guys feeling, Um, you know, I think it was such a great idea to do a call in show, and I think Emily, that was maybe your idea. I don't know if I would ever want to do a podcast that didn't have call ins, because one of the coolest things about this show has been that we have gotten to know so many people, Like we got calls from all over the globe, we got serialized ghost stories, true ghost stories, which we'll talk more

about later. And I just think we have a really amazing group of listeners who have supported this show and it's it's really fun to have gotten to know them

and we will take you with us. Yeah, this show has been like a magnet for like such a specific kind of weirdo, a tune to our our collective frequencies that the people that we've heard from, the people that we've met at live events, like all of the above has just been I don't know, it's it feels like a very special and unique little thing that happened, and I don't know, I'm very grateful that it happened. It was almost three years three years in February, Yeah, our

first episode. I have to scroll the way back in my iTunes. H Yeah, February was the debut night call episode. So yeah, where did the time go? I mean, especially in the last few months, like it could have been five years. Who knows. I feel like we've just been doing a podcast for like just an infinite amount of time, and then sometimes the frequency tunes in. There was always a podcast there. Um. Yeah, So we are going to play a lot of your calls this week, and we'll

still take some of your questions. We're still answering questions on here. Um. So yeah, do you guys wanna do you guys want to open up the voicemail bag? Let's do it. Let's do it, high ladies, um, it's talent. I just wanted to call and say congratulations on a great run. I am going to miss the podcast very very much, but I know that you know it's happening. This is happening for a reason, and I'm really excited to um see whatever you are all up to it next.

And I do have a question about an important topic to me, UM that I need y'all's perspective on, which is what show is better, Cheers or Frasier, because I watched all of Cheers from like March two. I don't really know when I finished, maybe like Junior July um earlier this year, and I haven't really been able to get into Fraser in the same way. Obviously, there are quite different shows, even if one is you know, a spinoff of the other. And so I wanted to know, Um,

for your money, which is better and why? Yeah, that's about it. So UM, take good care and thank you for the fun fun times by the question for the question, honestly, I know, I feel like maybe we've been always tiptoeing around this question because we're too cowardly to answer it. Um. I think Cheers is better. Um, no question, Cheers is a better show and more beloved for a reason. I don't think it would be possible for a spinoff to surpass the original, although if anyone can think of any

counter examples, please let us know. There are a lot of spinoffs that are like not really known as spinoffs, that have their own life but like, and I feel like Frasier is on on the cusp of that, Like it's almost completely broken off from the host being even looking at the Happy Days universe, like, we can all agree that Happy Days is a more important show than Mork and Mindy, Laverne and Shirley. They're like five other Happy Days spinoff Joony loves Chacy, Mork and Mindy was

a Happy Days spinoff? Yes, really, yes, there's like an episode where an alien comes to Happy Days, and it's more what people were doing a lot of drugs in I watched The Ship out of Work and Mindy everybody Mindy. Actually, maybe I'm wrong, maybe more than Mindy is more beloved

than it's certainly beloved by the people it's beloved among. Ye. Anyway, getting back to my point, I think Cheers is better and and so you think it's better purely by the rule of the original can never be surpassed by a spin off or what are the quality specifically that you think make it. I mean, I think Cheers is probably just the best sitcom of all time. It's like very funny, it's very dark. Sometimes it's very emotional. It's like before sitcoms turned into like there's a hug and a lesson

at the end. Always it's like, because I didn't before I saw it Cheers, I was like, why would anybody watch a show about a bunch of alcoholics hanging out in a bar? That sounds really depressing? And then I lived on the East Coast and understood why people hang out in bars. But also I watched Cheers almost like, oh it knows it's depressing. It's a show about broken people,

and that's what makes it great. It's it's one of those ones that you understand it more deeply, uh as you get older, or it has more pathos as you get older, because before it's just like grown ups hanging out at a bar, which is a gross It seems like fun. You could be friends with the mailman, that's right. But yeah, I think Fraser is also a good show on its own terms. And I think we all agree that it's like more of a nostalgia thing necessarily than that it's the greatest show of all time. Oh I

would disagree with that. I have a lot of nostalgia for it. But I think in every revisit that I do of Frasier, I'm impressed with how technically great it is. Okay, Fraser, I mean I I'm just reminded of this treat that Hello Cullen on Twitter, but he did the Street is. I am a psychiatrist. I moved from Boston, where I went to a bar every day, to Seattle, where I don't go to no bars. I'm on the radio now, even though I never did that before. How did I

get this job? How did I even hear about it um, he doesn't go to a bar because he goes to Cafe Nervosa. It's clearly a one to one swap, and he like joined a wine club instead. He like, he doesn't go to a dirty, you know, basement bar, and he grew up more. Yeah, grew up, Emily. Would you argue that it's that Frasier is better? I so better is a hard thing to say. I think, well, there's

a lot. I think there's a bit more of Cheers and there is a Frasier, and Cheers is just a richer ensemble, like Cheers is more like there's truly something for everybody in it, which I think is a really

good argument to make. It if not the best to come of all time, at least a better to comm than Fraser, Frasier is one note that is just like really extremely well done and extremely itself and commits to this bit and actually find like gets a lot of mileage out of which like a lot of shows would only get like a season out of, like you know, it's fancy pants and more fancy pants versus cricket, cop Dad and a dog. But I think, like I guess in terms of like, I just think that Cheers could

never be replicated again. And I just think that Fraser is something that is like the best version of something that I wish happened more often, you know, And in sitcoms, Fraser is like opera, yes, and that's why I love it. Uh, it's just so silly. Yeah, And I love all the like mistaken door knocking forest episodes at the ski Lodge. It's very it hits those those nets. Yeah, Like I grew up watching like Marx Brothers movies and stuff when

I was a kid. My mom was early into Mark's Brothers, so we would like rent the vhs is from the library, and so like getting into Frasier, which I also probably was into at the same time, it just felt like, you know, one led to the other and it's all kind of borderline slapstick but still really verbally driven. I don't know, I love Frasier a lot. I won't hesitate to say it's better than Cheers, but I think I've probably watched it more and that for whatever that story.

So yeah, okay, fine, I'm going to say it's better than Cheers just to make it interesting. Yeah, come on, take a stand. So that task has to be the tiebreaker her favorite position to take. Oh god, um, here's my my take on this is that Cheers is a gumbo and Frasier is a consummate, and you can't ever choose. You can't ever choose which is better because they belong to entirely different moods and stages life. Good answer, I

thank you, diplomatic. Diplomatic as ever, I think like in general, I go back to Cheers more because it has more texture and more depth. But I agree with Emily that Frasier is kind of like there there is something kind of like operatic or whatever it's. It does it's things so well, and it exceeds your expectations if your expectations are that it will kind of like start to go

soft or whatever. It's like it doesn't ever disappoint in the way that when I first started watching Frasier, I was like, I'm going to be so sick of all of these people. So I was kind of amazed. I was like, Wow, they really hooked me. And it's like it's an ambient vibe like it you know, it puts you in a kind of alters your your state of

mind a little bit. I've been watching some star Trek Next Generation with my mom out here, and it's like I realized how much they're very similar design vibes too. But the bridge of the enterprise, like the whole enterprise and and Fisher's apartment are like so embedded in my brain is just like a place I want to be mentally. Oh, I was watching Girlfriends because it came on Netflix finally, Um and Girlfriends. It's like so similar a Frasier in

many ways. Um, and it's produced by Kelsey Grammar, which I had forgotten except then he comes in an episode as himself. Jones was like, Wow, it's TV's Kelsey Grammar. Um, but Jones house in Girlfriends that they spend all of the time in the show in because it's like a beautiful craftsman house in Pasadena that is owned by like a twenty eight year old lawyer or whatever. Um in wonderful sitcom logic. Uh, it reminds me so much of Frasier's apartment. And then somebody was like, oh, well, they're

set designed by the same person. The person who did the set design on Fraser also did the set design on Girlfriends. And Girlfriends has a lot of also, just like dinner Party Forest and stuff and slapstick. So that's

my other recommendation if you like Cheers and Fraser Watch Girlfriends. Well, speaking of our favorite media h hobby horses of the eighties, we also have a night email from Batia, who writes to us, I can tell how much I'll miss the podcast by the fact that, upon learning the following bit of Big Chill trivia, y'all were the first people who

came to mind as the correct audience for it. So before it's too late, here goes Lawrence Kasdin and Kathy guys White have been friends going back to their time together in Michigan, and she would regularly include references to his movies and Kathy comics. So who in the Big Chill is Kathy? It's got to be Meg, right. And two is it too much of a stretch to say that there's some crossover between the two, something about the cognitive dissonance with regard to the adulthood you expected and

the one you have. This is completely new information to me, So thank you, Batia. Yeah what, Yeah, this blew my mind. I'm very surprised at this. This is also it's totally like a college paper that one of us would have written, um, right in this connecting will right, it would have been like bourgeois affectations of baby boomers and like ac, yeah,

did you see a friend of the pot. Amy Nicholson got this shirt that like, Kathy guy's wife has been selling the dead stock of Kathy merchandise from her personal website, which I tried to find. I need to text Amy and find out where exactly this this is. But um, these incredible vintage Kathy's shirts. She's still around the guys.

Why is an amazing person. So it totally made sense to me that well, it's also interesting she and Laurence Cason are like these people who yeah, they also like they made their artistic hobby into their career and made it like a profitable, real career. They are the big chill. I watched a documentary for Grantland about comic strip people, and she was featured in it, and I just found out that Kathy was like a very pioneering comic strip Like there were not a lot of comic strips written

by women. It was the Murphy Brown of the Sunday, It truly was. And also I learned from the documentary that she is like very skinny and pretty in real life, and the comic is all like her projection of her insecure self. Um, it seemed like she definitely struggled with some eating issues, all stuff that you can get from the comic. But you're like, oh, there's like a real person in this comic who's very interesting and uh would

totally be a character in The Big Chill. Yeah. No, she's um she was hot, Uh like very she looks like she could just like walk into the kitchen and Big Chill. She doesn't look like Kathy is look her up. She looks like like the ultimate seventies woman in who's totally like would be in The Big Chill. Um. So yeah, I was like, I'm not surprised that she and Lawrence Castin had a you know, a close friendship lived in the co op together. Also, she's just like peak boomer.

She was born in nineteen fifty September five, nineteen fifty. She's a virgo. Um. Yeah, it's just interesting because like Kathy is this comic that people used to make fun of women or it became just sort of like all the women yeah dieting. But watching this documentary, you're like, oh, yeah, none of this stuff had been in a comic before.

It was very groundbreaking at the time, and just like a lot of men's underground comics are about putting all of your weird it and sexual neurosis into a comic, and when you see like a woman do it, it can be really uncomfortable in the case of Kathy, because you're like, Kathy, just love yourself, Kathy, we love you. What. Thank you Batia for the email. Thanks for also bringing Big Chill into our final episode because we couldn't get through this finale. So who do you think Kathy is

in The Big Chill? No, this stumps me. Somebody, she said, Meg obviously. Do you think she's Meg? Is that Mary kay Place? That's that's what I also, I was like, they all in my mind, they have no names anymore in The Big Chill. Their names are their actor. All right, who is she? I think she might be Glenn Close's character. No, I think she's closer to Mary kay Place. Yeah, because she needs to have it all. She's a cool lady, alight.

She's more neurotic, I think maybe, but they're all neurotic. Yeah, but she's where's it on the outside a little more? I don't know. She'd be the one who's married to Robert or whatever his name is. But now I wonder, you know, like like as you were saying, like, you know, Kathy does not give off the vibe that you would expect the creator of Kathy to give off. And I wonder, you know, I was picturing that Onion article that's like

Gene whatever. It's like a column by a woman named Jean that was always on the Onion, and she seems like a stock photo, but it looked that is what I picture Kathy looking like. So yeah, then she looks like you know, Jill Clayburgh, and you're like, oh, this is complicated, right, Yeah, like Lawrence Cosden's impression of her and how he would like quote unquote write her into a movie might be different than how she would right herself.

Or probably it's definitely different than how she would write herself. So, um, yeah, I don't know, but I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, Mary kay place, I'll go with that because I've already revealed how little of Kathy I know absorbed. No, Kathy rolled right off my back. It was just it was just there for her. Yeah, But legacies, so let's open up the voicemailbox again. Let's do it. Hi. My name is Dan Uh. Live outside of Chicago. Longtime fan. Going

back to the girls in Hoodies days. UM really started to hear the show is ending, UM, and I meant to call you. Uh. Months ago, I went to summer camp with Whitley Streeber's son. It was a performing arts camp and upstate New York called Long Lag. I unfortunately can't remember his name. It was the summer after eighth grade UM when I went there, and we were in a performance of Oklahoma together. He was curly and I was Judd, which meant that we du edit poor Judd

is Dead together. So that was an experience. UM. I didn't necessary like I think. I think I was familiar with communion at the time, and I remember some of the other campers UM referencing who he was and who his father was, UM, and they made it pretty clear that he didn't necessarily want to talk about that, so I never brought it up to him. He was a really good guy, really nice guy. UM, But I thought you'd get a kick out of hearing that. Uh. You know,

I was in Oklahoma UM with Whitley Strieber's son. Uh, This is back in like nineteen summer and ninety three, I think, so I'm dating myself anyway, I thought you'd like to hear that story again. Really started to hear that the pot is ending, um, and I hope to see all of the wonderful things that you all go on to do in the future. Take care. This is Patrick and it's about thirty Michigan. I just wanted to give a call bease. Been of same you guys since

the jone Quickly episode of Behind the Bastards. It's just, you know, sad to see they come to end, but I am hopeful that I'll hear from you guys again. I guess the only thing else I have to say is I wish you guys would have talked about cryptids. Uh. Living in the Midwest, it's definitely one of those things that you know, there's hundreds of roads that you don't go down because there's some type of X murder or

my personal favorite as the dog Man of Michigan. Yeah, I hope for the best for all you guys, and I'll see in the future. Ahem, ahem. We have talked so much about cryptids that you you must peruse our archive I personally, I think we all agreed that maybe the most cryptic heavy episode was when we had Dan Hernandez on the podcast. He had some really good insider cryptid knowledge because his dad is a crypto zoologist who went on a big adventure to try and find cryptids.

That was then wasn't it like derailed by a hurricane or something? His plans were thwarted. Yeah, they couldn't take the boat out, which I recommend that. But also cryptids have been on my mind recently because I get these like news local news emails and there's this one person who lives in my neighborhood who, uh like every few weeks sends out the same like email that basically is asking if anyone has seen big Foot in Griffith Park. And he keeps describing a night five years ago where

he swears he saw big Foot. And of course this starts happening right when we were taking a break and now we're ending the show, and I was like, this is a local mystery I could solve on night Call. God, we really we haven't ruled out the possibility of coming back for some night Calls Super specials, Cryptic super special Maybe we'll do some kind of one off mystery solving you can get on a case a private detect of agency. I know Tess is going to start researching this anyway, Yeah,

as as I do. Yeah, maybe this is just your next show. Probably. Well, the stay at home order is kind of like destroying my plans to you can still go to the park. Well, it's so confusing the stay at home orders in l A. It's like you can't leave your house unless you're going to the mall. And if you're at the mall, you can walk, But if you're at your house, you can't leave your house on foot, bike or bike car unless you need to go shopping

at a store. Alyssa walker in front of the pod, had a good tweet where she was like, I can't see my niece and nephew at the playground, so I'm going to meet them at a tattoo parlor exactly. Um, but this just also sounds like Under the Silver Lake, Yes, my favorite film of all time. Yes, um, I'm looking now that. So if you go back, this is just you know, uh news you can use. I think it's

listed as uh it's on seventy three on iTunes. I don't know what that number means honestly, because it counts down from the most recent too now, but it's from six nineteen. If you love the crib Cycle with Dan Hernandez, there's so much cryptic talk in there, and I'm there are so many other ones too. I mean, is that the one where we talked about the um? What's it called this? The squid? What do they sunk? The squawk?

Was that squawk talk? I think Squank made it. We've talked about the Squawk a few times over the years. I'm sorry for only realizing, uh, the very end of the podcast that a good thing to do is to put the topics and the title of the episodes so that people can find it UM. But yeah, they're in the descriptions generally, and we definitely talked about cryptids a time or two. So yeah, if, yeah, if you want to go back and rediscover it, you know, I think

you'll be happy. I think you'll be happy. Patrick. I can't remember if it was when we I think Molly and I were on Creature Feature podcast with Katie Golden. Yeah, I think we talked about cryptids there as well. We also Colin Dicky on for an entire Sasquatch episode. There you go, oh yeah with the UM. I mean, I think that was a bonus episode Patreon episode. But if you want to listen to the episode with the second Colin Dickey episode, Um, yeah, we talked about the whole

Bigfoot c I a Jimmy Stewart connection. I think that was when we did a We did a chat for Skylight with him, which felt like a podcast because it was in uh it was during lockdown, so anytime you get on Zoom with him, Mike, it feels like you're touring a podcast. But I think I think that was for Skylight, but I'm sure that they have that saved

somewhere to Skylight Books. We did it, Molly and I did a chat with Colin Dicky for Skylight of his book The Unidentified, which is extremely niccall and highly recommended and highly recommended. If we're missing a good Um, all the books from the book club are are still out there. Yeah, yeah, consumed, but especially that one. Yeah. I definitely get all the podcasting and just regular zooming I've been doing mixed up.

They just totally fixed Mike's to our heads at the beginning, it's just coppercorn style and if we're just broadcasting somewhere all the time, there's plenty to discover Patrick. So yeah, hopefully, hopefully that will say your your desire for crypto chat.

Speaking of the Unidentified, I feel like we should probably discuss this freaking monolith that's been popping up all over the world, because it popped up when we were off last week, and it just feels like such bait for us UM and we obviously got a lot of tweets and and and people wanted us to talk about this UM and it feels a little bit like just weird timing that it's again that it's coming out as soon

as we're we're ending the show. But what do you what do you guys think of this monolitht you mean these monoliths, these monoliths the yeah, there's three. Didn't want when you try disappear and people were saying like, oh, it reappeared in Romania, and I think there are three separate monoliths. I didn't even know about the third one.

I have a spoiler on the first one, but spoil away. Well, it's like the most boring thing it could be is that West World was filming nearby, so people think it was a prank by some West World set deck people, and yeah, I mean human hands were clearly involved. It did not have the markings of an alien thing where you can't tell how it got there at all. They were like, this is clearly like somebody drilled here and

maybe an alien drilled there. Maybe, But I just feel like it being a West World thing is is the dumbest thing it could be. So yeah, I mean, would they still sick that kind of I don't know. I guess. Actually we were off the pod too when I got really into Stonehenge in the last couple of weeks. Oh, I think you talked about Stonehenge something. Maybe that was also a bonus episode or just me talking to you

and being like, yo, we gotta talk about stone. And there's a bunch of National Geographic specials on Disney Plus that I watched that are about ancient monoliths, uh and some of the stuff we've been talking about mounds, ancient burial sites, mountain rids and they're all really cool. Um, but some of that stuff too, it's like they still don't know how it was done, which is why they say it's ancient aliens. This. They're just like this was made out of aluminum and well and like Well died,

and then the Romanian one is allegedly more poorly welded. Yeah, I am like number one would love to believe and the like it just being like a glitch in the matrix or something, or you know that we're about to enter, uh, the next phase of human evolution or whatever because of big daddy monolith dropping down on Earth. But yeah, it feels as soon as the one popped up, and I think if it was just the single one in Utah,

I think I could be pleasantly mystified by it. But I think that it continued to have It's like this continuing story that's been picked up. It just feels a little orchestrated. It feels like, do you guys remember I was really like, this is such an early I mean not early early Internet but like middle middle Internet mystery. Do you remember this? And this is like an artist that exists now. But it was like a YouTube account called I am am I Who am I? Do you

guys remember seeing this song? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, this was big on. Oh no they didn't. They were like convinced it was Christina Aguilera. But then it was just a random person. Yeah, it was just like a random like European singer songwriter or something. It was very people thought it was Gaga and this was like kind of early in Gaga being around. But they were these very kind of evocative music videos with um like kind of snippets of songs and then some animal which show up somewhere

in the middle of it. And they would come out like every couple of weeks, and I remember whatever job I had at the time, we were all super into it and like, oh, what's the next one, Like, you know, we have another clue. And then it's just like a marketing campaign for an artist that I never ended up caring about. Really, I still get like press releases for I am am I, who am I? Or whatever her name is now? Um, but yeah, uh it's it's so it's like, you know, you get burned one which is

not even really being burned. It's just like somebody doing something interesting, but somebody doing a little project is not. You know, it can be fun, but it's not as fun as a real monolith from Alien Yes from Alias, Like, yeah, so my son whom I've been tweeting about because he's making websites and it's just like can't handle that he's

that old that he's making websites. But I told him about the Monolith, and he he was very certain that it was people basically doing I r L. Easter Eggs because everyone's been kind of like driven so insane and bored by quarantine that he thought it was someone like making life more video game like. And I was like, that's great. I really want to believe that. But Molly's West World thing, like, yeah, that that also sounds reasonable.

I wish I weren't so cynical. Yeah, and I wish I just thought it was Aliens, real monolithe as a treat, like come as a treat. Yeah, yeah, No, it reminds me of the random nodding that we talked about earlier. Um, but if it's a marketing thing, that again, like that just makes it less fun. It's also like, if it's just a person, do we a random thing just sort of a disruptive thing with no purpose, like just in

an for its own ends. Um, that's also interesting and kind of cool, I think, yeah, um, and mysterious because you know it doesn't end in commerce. Uh, it makes me want to do that because I am so bored that I want to I want there to be like more to chew on mentally. Uh. And it made me think, like what would I put in random places for people

to think was placed there by aliens? I feel like when I was a kid in like playing in the woods and around Tacoma, like we would always this is like a four Blair witch, but we would always like put up scary ominous like stick figures and stuff to scare people if you're running around, just to like be like, oh my go then and then you know, walk up and be like, oh my god, what's that? You know? Wait, so are you the dog Man of the woods. Yes, I'm the original dog man. It's been on the Squawk.

Tess is going to go looking for the Wolfman and just find unifind Yeah, in the woods nanotent. Yeah. So that's I guess that's that a analyst, I guess I wish. I guess we all wish we could be a little more um, we could suspend our disbelief a bit more. It's like the ancient aliens thing. It's like it's even cooler that human beings did it, And it's dumb that

we think we're smarter than those human beings in any way. Uh, because humans are just like the same level of smart all the time in my opinion, Wait, what do you mean, just that like people are like, oh, people in the past, like they were able to build these things that like we can't even build them now. It's like, yeah, maybe they didn't have all the technology that we have now, but they could still have even more other ancient technology

that we don't know how to do now. So you're saying, don't ascribe the magic of the monoliths to aliens because humans and or the marketing department of HBO have, you know, our ingenious in their own right. They can get it done. It's cool. It's just like real stonehenge is cool enough, is what I'm saying. We don't need fake monoliths because real monoliths are amazing. Um. And the fact that like

anything that ancient has been standing that long anywhere is cool. Um. This reminds me there's a fake there's a fake stonehenge in Washington State that I went to that I've almost blocked from my memory because it was yes, somebody thing about it. Yeah, it's a Mary Hill, Washington. Uh, the American Stonehenge. It's like a super weird, wavy gravy town and like southern Washington, I believe, kind of close to

the Oregon border. That's what you're saying. If you need to migrate northward because the fires have have pushed everybody out, then Mary Hill, Washington is the place to be. Yeah, you're saying it's hippie dippy and it has its own stonehenge. I am moving there. Yeah, what's the stonehege? Mate? Is it like in a way to recreate it? Is it made out of like foam or something concrete? Uh, it's a I guess some World War One memorial. Um. But I recall the vibe and I'm gonna link it here

so you guys can see. I recall the vibe in the town being not like I don't know. I wouldn't have guessed that it was a World War One memorial just because it felt like a very new a g town. Um there it is. I was very young when I went there, so I don't remember. Yeah, I mean, you know, people love to put up a monolith in Nebraska. There's also Carhinge, which I have always wanted to see, which is the stonehenge made out of of old cars. That have been spray painted gray. I just love land art.

Give me land art. Well. The thing about Stonehenge that people don't understand is that the stones are so heavy that nobody knows how people could have moved them, the individuals, because they're not It's not like the Pyramids where there you know, it's just a feat of engineering. But like people are just like literally like how could anybody have picked that up without a huge crane or some kind of machinery or something. That's the that's the mystery of Stonehinge. Right.

One of the things about the Pyramids those that they found out that some of the blocks had been cast into specific shapes. I believe it was like early car create uh, which again just things. They were like, oh, we didn't know that they knew how to do that. It's like, yeah, because you're fucking dumb. You're not You're not as smart as the ancient Egyptians. We only wish we had concrete. Now, all right, monolith sorted verdicts in um. Do you guys have any other favorite episodes of the podcast?

You just talked about that Dan Hernandez episode and some of our other cryptic heavy episodes. Oh, I sure, do um. One of the we've talked about this again and again because it was a really memorable arc was the Woodworker slash Murder Board Adventure and that that played out over a lot of different episodes because just when we thought that the chapter had been closed on the Murder Board,

it opened back up with a new update. And for people who have just recently joined into our podcast, uh, we should give you a brief synopsis, which is that

a man, a woodworker, was UM. He had a commission come in to make a Weigi board or a Hui jaw board out of a piece of wood that UM was supposedly from somehow involved in a murder scene and had bloodstains on it, and the commission was canceled because the commissioner's mom, I think, was like, oh no, You're not gonna get a creepy, haunted piece of wood in our house. So the woodworker had nothing, had like no idea what to do with this thing, and our listeners

called in. We got everyone invited it involved in advising the woodworker on what to do, and eventually the Murder Board ended up at the Paranormal Museum, which is yeah, just like an incredible just Kisma of all of our interest in us connecting the right people. I love It's honestly not just the highlight of our show, like a highlight of my life that we were at all involved in this. It's a professional achievement honestly for all of us. Definitely. Yeah,

that was just like a trade like that. That's like once that started getting going and I was just like, this is why we were doing this podcast? Yeah exactly. Um, that was so Yeah. I never knew what was going to happen next with you. I also really loved UM when we had carvel on and we talked about like food forbidden foods basically like foods that we felt like we're unethical to eat. And I think we also talked about sea horses in there. But that was when we

were recording at UM, this little studio. We were a different platform, and there was just something funny about the studio that we were recording in, Like I just it was so just had to be there. It was really small, it was really hot in there. That's a whole side podcast, the story of our our old studio. It made me thinking about like every time we had a guest in there, we would all just get like so sweaty and then

we would just laugh. But the one with the one with Carvel I remember because I would be recording in New York for that UM and I sometimes it was like hard, especially if there was a guest there and so I was a lone remote person to like kind of you know, get into the rhythm of it. But like that Carvel one, I just remember feeling like, oh, I was there in the room and I was silly vibes with everybody. That was a good one. That was

a really good one. What about you guys? God, I have so many I think like a little I guess this is about a year ago. Uh. We did a couple of episodes with Tom O'Neill, who wrote Chaos, the Charles Manson book UM, which was one of my favorite things that we read for this podcast, And both of

those episodes are great. When is um one was a bonus up and then when I was on the main feed and he was just like a fascinating guest and like just our kind of favorite, like you know, like a true journalist who will just like shoot the ship about anything um and here. Yeah, and it was a fascinating book and he was just like an endless font of information. Um, and yeah, he was one of my

favorite guests for sure. Yeah, he was incredible. Actually he talking to Tom, you definitely get the sense that he needs his own show totally. Yeah. I just like, yeah, I don't know how he like because that that book was such a long term project and he was working out forever and ever. I don't know how, like anybody keeps something like that to themselves, like of course, like once it's out, you just want to talk about it endlessly because you've been like sitting on it for decades

or whatever. That. Yeah, that highly recommended revisiting that one. Seems like he had a lot of problems not talking to people about the Manson murders for like ten years of his life, which I very much understand. Yeah. Yeah, Um, I loved We loved having Darcy Wilder we're talking about. Um. I loved having Nicki Mayor and on recently to talk about the Vow. Nikki was awesome. Yeah, that was one of our best recent episodes, I would say, and also

did bonus episodes with her too about the Vow. Super fun. There is like a good era of like genuine uncut weirdness.

Courtesy of UM when of her former producers Rachel Jacobs at Audio Boom, but she was the one who brought to our attention the Plague Mask a s MR, which was a guy on YouTube who whispers at you through a plague mask and it's this weird, sort of scary goth but also a s m R video audio experience UM, which just yeah, I felt like true, true dark corners of the Internet, and it was very fun to get

into that with her. That's in an episode called Connecticut, Connecticut Muffin in Honeybrain's Court, just to give you a vibe of the true data is UM that we were working in it. That was great. Yeah, We've had so many good guests over the years, Meredith Whittaker. I mean there, yeah, there's so many people. Andrew T we had a really really like funny, silly episode. I I didn't get to be on the episode with Andrew T. Yeah, that was when I was out, But that was a great episode.

Love listening to it. Next Incarnation, Emily are not allowed to leave leave zone? Yeah, no traveling for you know. All right, let's get back into the voicemail bag. I can't decide if it's a bag or a box. It's both and neither. High Night Calls me. I was good to hear about the pod coming to an end. It really offered something different in my weekly routine and I'm

so sad to see it go. I was wondering if you could send us off with some recommendations on ways to begin to start to or try to fill the cosmic void left by Night Call fading into the ether. Thanks again for so many good years, and I wish you all the best. By great question, how do we fill our own cosmic void? Well, I mean there are some a couple of really obvious to me. Answer is one of which is Molly's upcoming pod also from from My Heart, which I know you announced on Twitter, Molly.

But if you want to give a little more of a teaser, Oh sure, I am doing a podcast about Hollywood, Madam Heidi Flice that I'm super excited about. That is my new under the Silver Lake like obsession, a lifelog obsession that I'm excited to make a podcast about. Um, it's gonna be a lot of weird l a history and stuff like that too, So definitely if you like Nightcall check it out. Um, it'll be out next year.

That's gonna be great. I wanted to recommend UH Kate Wrath podcast UM Hot and Rich, which is a three times a week Twitch show on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday on Twitch. UM at Hot and Rich, friend of the friend of the show specialist UM does. Yeah, she does a great celebrity news round up UM talk show that I think is just really cool and funny. And UM Also Joan Haley Ford, who we had on the show UM pretty recently, has does some really great like Twitch

horror hosting kind of stuff, like Elvira kind of stuff. UM. She was doing a show about Fall called Fall Talk Fall Chat. UM. But yeah, I think there are a lot of people doing cool, weird, interesting stuff. UM. I'm trying to think a more like straight podcast that I listened to UM I Excitations Needed, which is a media criticism podcast that is is really good. Well, I would

say my more recent like listen to them right away. UM. Podcasts that I've been listening to recently UM are former guests Justin Charity and Micro Peters's podcast Sound Only on the Ringer Network, which is UM. It's a pop culture podcast. It's a very specific to their interests and away that's not exactly the same as ours, but I think is similar in spirit where they're like really into some zones of pop culture, mostly like anime, hip hop, and uh

just like internet weirdness. Um, and they're really fun, Like their conversations are is really fun and digressive and stuff. Um. I am a big fan of that one. I also this is just like in the realm of of like listening to something and learning something I had no idea about. There's a great podcast called Bad Gays. It's on I

think it's third season. It's like more kind of you just are listening to somebody, kind of in the style of of Creana Long Worst Podcast and a couple of day podcasts like you kind of are just like hearing a story. It's a story being told to you about different problematic or complicated queer figures in history. And there's always something fascinated that that I learned in every episode. Um. And they do a really good job with that. The host of that, and then on the non podcast side,

Making Garvey just started a sub stack. Everybody started a sub stack, but I think that she's put out one issue so far. Um. I feel like it's going to have some good spooky vibes, some good like weird Americana vibes. That is definitely adjacent to the Night Call state of mind. So I would recommend that it's called scary, cool, sad, Goodbye and you can hop in now and be an early adopter. Those are good racks. UM. I really like Creature Feature Pod, which is also on I Heart UM

Friend of Pod Katie is really fascinating and cool. And then in the same vein as that, um, Apologies Friend of Pod Alie Ward's podcast. I am sure everyone already knows about Apologies because it's way more famous than Night Call, But I love Oologies. It's a really cool group of people. Their their listenership reminds me of ours in many ways. And I know that because I belong to the Facebook group and I'm very I actively read all of that. UM. I also really love see Jane Marie at sub stack

dot com. UM, friend of Pod Jane Marie's sub stack is really really good. She's just cool. Yeah of her Yeah, Um, those are my wrack. Her interests often on with our Yeah, and she's very like no bullshit. You know. She has a Friday bargain bin thing, and I don't normally like those, but I read every word because I just love how she's very frank. It's it's refreshing. I like it. She's

such a midwestern Er. It's great totally speaking of the Midwest. Um. Yeah, I'm also almost like I need to start a freaking sub stack. Everybody. You do, Oh my god, yours? Yeah, yours? Um. I think we had a shout out to that in a call, so maybe I'm repeating myself. Shout out to the weather letter. Yeah, it's a tiny letter. It's it's just just a tiny start to test this weather letter. If you do. It's just I've been told it's like too sad. No, it's no, it can be quite sad.

The cheers it is. The cheers. Well, that's a huge compliment. I can't agree. But thank you. Making away in the world today takes over everything you got. I wish we could play the Cheers theme song at some point on this episode. I think Doug will agree. We're probably allowed to sing it. You can sing it. Well. I think that is about all we got. It's everything we got. Yeah, I'm I'm gonna be really sad to say goodbye to

night Call. But I also feel like it has been, and I hope that our listeners feel this way as well. It's been such a like cornucopia of cool ship that I never would have spent time thinking about or learning about if I hadn't been podcasting with Tess and Molly and have this excuse to gather around a microphone every week and and get into the weird corners of the world.

It sounds cooty to say the word inspiration, but it's true, like there's no other work because I've been like actually inspired by the stuff that we've gotten into, like by where my brain goes when we're talking about it, of like written things based on stuff that we've talked about. It's just it's like what I would want out of a partnership like this, a show like this, especially as a host, and hopefully as a listener. You got that

out of it as well. I definitely agree, and I think um one of the other things that we we don't talk about a lot on the podcast, but we when we podcasted together at grant Land, we were employees and I'm really I don't want to say I'm proud of us, because I already called my weather letter the Tears of newsletters. But I am really proud of us, yeah too, because it's you know, we're three friends, and I'm really proud of how well we've worked together, and I you know, I am very I'm so happy that

we had this experience. It's been so awesome, and I'm even more excited to see what Emily and Molly do because they really are just incredible people and just very, very, the smartest people I know. I'm very proud to have worked with you guys h from work. Yeah, I mean, I'll always be grateful that Emily asked if we wanted to do a podcast at Grantland UM, a show that the network originally suggested, calling grant Land w NO. I suggested it and it was a joke, and then I

realized nobody would get the joke. It was supposed to be bad. I will take ownership, then became Girls in Hoodies and then came back as Night Call. We're obviously open to leaving the door open for another iteration in the far off future, but at the very least I have made Tess and Emily promise that we will do on Eagles style raises over reunion concert with Mountains of blow Uh. And yeah, I've been thinking a lot about like who the different Nightcall uh members are in different bands,

because I was like, cool, which Eagles are we? I feel like, uh, TuS, I think you're Don Henley. Really yeah, I think you're John Henley, Emily's Glen Frey, and I think I'm Joe Walsh. I mean, I'm tempted to agree just but that's also because I have a connection to uh the End of the Innocence and other John Henley Don Henley solo exploits great embarrassing that way. Yeah, Glenn

Frey is cool. Um. I was talking about how, just like every I was watching a Black Pink video and I was like, oh, it's so funny how every K pop group has a left eye, Like I love that about it. Somebody was like, you're obviously the left eye, and Emily is t Bos and Tests is Chili, sure thing, and I was like that's true. And then yeah, I just couldn't stop thinking about like how how the personality

archetypes go with different bands. I hope that people continue to submit their suggestions of who we are in various trios or bands forevermore. But just keep in mind that we've got a Libra, a virgo and a Capricorn, and that really all we're doing is just talking about astrology when we talk about who we I mean, it's just there's the immutable fact of astrology. You have to take the astrology into account. That's how all bands should be formed,

is around. Uh yes, to look at your charts. Just like a spinal tap stone bring it back to stone. I was reading about the tiny stonehenge um in Spinal tap was inspired by Black Sabbath tried to have a stonehenge but it was like too big so they couldn't even get it on stage. Uh it's still I will still watch the clip of that sometimes and just laugh and laugh. It never gets old to me. It's the

best lowering down tiny stonehenge. Fine holiday fun um, but yeah, I mean I think I remember we we got together into an episode of North Mollywood. I feel like like in the dark days of January, and we were very much and like bunker mindset and like what are we

gonna do? Like you know, And I think that's sort of where I would say the germ of Night Calls started from, even though it was about a year until we put out our first episode that I think that kind of is where we got the gears started turning and we're like, Okay, we're gonna bring it back, but it's got to be like it's got to be really specific around our needs and are and our interests in an incredibly weird time, not that there's any unwird time, but I think it was just more in our face

at that moment, and it was all something something we all wanted to talk about, the Dystopia of at all strange days and lonely nights. We obviously aren't saying that the dystopia is in any way over now. Um. I hope that nobody took that away from like we're like, oh, Joe Biden one, so it's all good, everything is normal now. That is absolutely not It's entirely coincidental timing. We're not abandoning you for the next phase of the dystopia, which

will be extremely weird in its own way. Yeah seriously, Um no, we're just, uh, we're going to see what the next phase looks like and then you know, we do you know, throw up the nightcall light and we all might come to the rescue like moths. Yes, like I was thinking like Batman, but yes, also like like

moths around the lux or pyramid at exactly. Um, well, we want to and the show with a bunch of thank you's because there are so many people that we couldn't have done this show without, and people who have been supporters of the show for a long time or short time, any time at all. We appreciate you've all, in your own way made the show what it is. This is gonna be like play the exit music, like

where I don't know words show let's uh yeah. So first of all, we gotta thank Doug bum, our producer who has just who's just been with us for a little while but it's just been such a joy to work with and has so many ideas and it's been honestly like I'm I'm I'm I'm too. I'm very sad to stay about it, dog, But thanks duck, Yeah, thank you Doug. Doug has really been an amazing person who's really gotten our show. Um. We should also definitely think

Jack O'Brien. Uh. He brought us to my heart. He was a big fan of girls and hoodies back in the day. And sometimes when people say that, you're like, I don't think you've actually listened to the show Jack totally had and did. Um. We also absolutely love Joel Joel Monique. She was phenomenal um and she still has shows at I Heart, so you should listen to them all and support her because she's awesome. Um. Also say Serrano, she has been such a big, like I don't know,

just a booster of us. He was. He really got the word out of about our Patreon early on and it's just been so generous with his platform. As they say. Um, we love Shay uh thank you. Also love Sophie Lichtman at A Heart and Anna has Ni like truly missed

going to the studio and playing with the dogs. Um. It's one thing I miss about the podcast is actually getting into a studio and just like fulfilling our dream of making it from a weird alleyway in Hollywood yep, and taking like so many sodas just stuff in him in the purses. Yeah that was maybe just me. Um. We also got to thank our other producer, Zack McKeever um and our original producer at Audio Boom, Ben Hosley.

Shout out to Ben the Ben Doucer. Thanks to David Sims and Griffin Newman who brought Emily and Audio Boom, which is how the show got started. UM, and also do our producer Rachel Jacobs, the fabulous Rachel such Schamp. We loved her work. It was great. She made the night Call Museum and it looked exactly like we would have wanted it a look. It was such a great

treat that she did for us. UM shout out to Miles Gray, who, along with Jack O'Brien, made My Heart seemed like a really fun place to do this show when we were first getting over here. Thank you to you. Must remember this is Corina Longworth, a long time friend and fan. Two time guests, I believe. Yeah podcasting legend featured on the episode of The Simpsons this year at a pot as a podcaster. In an amount rushmore of podcasters, we were lucky enough to get her on our show.

So thanks to Karina. Thanks to Ryan Johnson, who was a guests at our first ever live event and has always been a supporter of the show and also a guest on the He was on our contact episode. Yeah thanks for our legendary live event and seance at Tay which where everyone had to pledge allegiance to Satan. Yeah. Just as a lark not tempting fade or anything that was kind of the original Devil's try tone under the episode. We did not bargain for this. Yeah, we've just had

so many fabulous guests in general. Also Amy Man, who was another guest at another live show, uh and was so game for it, so much fun. Thanks to my Yeah, thanks to my friend Emma Cunningham who did table magic. But yeah, she was just like the fourth night caller at our live shows because she was just like, she would do our sound, help with our sounds, she would do magic. She was just like, it was so fun to think about a time when we could do close

magic to close magic. More guests, So many guests that we have loved. But this is by no means an exhaustive list. Uh, but we love all our Jane, Marie, Ali ward Um, Tom O'Neill, Colin Dickie, Uh, Carvel wall Is, Claire Evans, Brandy Brown o our our butter queen, uh, Dan Hernandez, Richard Lawson, who I think I was like, was he our first guest? I think really? Yeah? That was Yeah. Shout out to Richard Love Richard another great Richard Richard rush Field. Um with one of the scary

who provided us one of our scariest episodes. I would say, great ghost story, Andrew t Rachel True, Oh my god. The list goes on and on. Chris and Elizabeth can't Well another power couple. We had a lot of power couples who both guested on our show. Sadie Dupui, Meredith Whittaker, Robert Evans, Katie Golden, Jane, Marie Well she deserves again, Oh my God, from Garden of Sound. So I gotta give it up to Roy. Like, Roy was just so great. And I think Roy may have like spoken one or

two words on an episode of our pot past. Maybe he was a total night call guy. He was great. He we talked a lot after episodes about stuff we've talked about all in the episodes. And I also missed just shoot and the ship with Roy after recording an episode. I missed that. Um. All of our producers. UM, We've been lucky to have some of the greatest producers in

the world and just like get our show. People who get the show and you know a lot of people who have had to take rains from other people and and really you know, seamlessly made the show feel like it was all one thing, um, but there's a lot of work behind the scenes that went into that. So thank you so much to all of our producers. Yes, we also should just say thank you to some of our night callers who we've gotten to know, Um, night caller Francisco, then Mr Eric Hoffman, John Martin's my kid

Emmett who talked talked on a podcast one time. Um, there are so many of you men like it. We just love you guys so much. And everybody who supports the Patreon which a lot of people we've already mentioned, but also John Flansburg and Robin thrilled to see you guys pop up on the list. Oh my god. We also have to thank song Finch. Dude song. The most disappointed I've ever been in my life, I think is that song Finch wasn't like, alright, guys, We're just gonna

sponsor your whole podcast. You guys be the song Finch ambassador song for every episode, like they made us such a good song. I still play here just a little. I put the link in there. We can oh nice. Um, Yeah, I mean it's not often that you get a sponsor that makes you want to devote an entire segment of your show, too did because that was incredible. I can't believe it was like only a year ago. We were

doing weird stop motion scary eighties puppet movies. Yeah, broke barroke eighties Yeah, followed by by weird c g I wow, that was a year ago. Oh my god, crazy times. Time makes no sense. Time is like the lawnmower man. We're back like we never lived. It's so dramatic. Get sold to the best, thank god, we thank God doing research and she's gonna play the Saton Molly's Love the Valley, send you articles, the freaking out. Emily got the remedy from a music critic. She could be avocans vocal right.

We just tell it like it's gonna be will be back like we never live. We never never left, we never left. You sold it to the best. We thank god webbing. Oh my god. So one thing that's funny. I mean, it goes on, but you got the chest. The funniest part of that song is that it's like Emily's gonna one day be like a movie critic because I already were the prop that. I was like, I'm like, they're just like tell us a little bit about yourself, and I was a movie critic at the time. They're like,

she could be one day if she plays her all right. Yeah, well that I can't think of a better way to go out than with with that that tune by the Great Rich Low Its song Finch. We'll be back like we never left, maybe one day, like we never again. Thank you. I can't make you sing the cheer song after that. Well, thanks everybody for sharing your strange days and lonely nights with us. We've we've loved it more than anything, and we're gonna miss everybody. We'll see you

soon like we never left. Making your way in the world today, taking a break from all your worries. Hellot get wait wait, so you want to do do do? Do? Do? Do? Do you do? You want to be where you can see all they say, troubles and people are all the same you. You wanted me where everybody do do do do Do do do do do? Hey. Um, I'm actually a first time caller and also, um ironically a first time listener. I followed all of you on Twitter for years and

I really enjoyed grantline back in the day. So I don't know what it was about today was like, no, I'm going to finally listen to Night call And it was a little bit of a gut lunch because the end and find out you're ending it. But um, I'm just to say that you all are great. Um, I love this podcast. I'm excited to get to the backlog of all of the episodes that I have in front of me now and in your future endeavors. Um, we're just weird experience that. But yeah, I'm excited for everything.

And I've said for you all, so good luck and thanks for making such a great show. I'm sorry I was so late to it. Uma. Hey, Night callers. This is John and Chicago. I called in early on in the life of the show with the story about the Hatman, which was fun. I just wanted to say thank you for the community of weirdos you've cultivated. H really enjoyed all three of you as writers and cultural voices since the Girls and Hitty days. And well, I'm sad the pot is ending. I'm excited to see what each of

you does next. Take care and be safe listeners. This is Jack from Network, longtime listener, first time Night caller. I just wanted to thank you guys for creating what you created here gave me one of my favorite podcasts. I couldn't be a bigger fan of y'all and the vibe you created with this show, the world felt more mysterious and more interesting after every episode I listened to. You guys will be missed, but you created something great.

I'm proud to have been involved in a small part of making some of it, and now I bid you do. So excited and so grateful for you guys. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Hi, Nightcall, This is Zach calling from me. I was gutted to hear about the pod coming to an end. It really offered something different in my weekly routine. I'm so sad to see it go. I was wondering if you could send us off with some recommendations on ways to begin to start to or try to fill the cosmic void left by Night Call

fading into the ether. Uh. Thanks again for so many good years, and I wish you all the best. By Hey, Night Call. It is twelve thirty four and Upstate New York and I just finished listening to this week's episode and when I heard the announcement at the end, I just had to call and say thank you for being the best part of my Monday's during our dystopian reality. I'm a Patreon subscriber and I would always look forward to the mixes and bonus pods and night letters each month.

Our days are going to be a little bit more strange and our nights are going to be a little bit more lonely without night Call in our ears. But thank you so much for everything you've given up. As sad as I am that pod is ending, I will be sure to tune in and listen to, or watch or read anything the three of you are involved with in the future. That's it. I just wanted to say thanks and uh saving a spot at the commune by Hi, it's Christina. I God, I had so many more night

calls that like I needed to call you about. I'm like, oh, I just didn't can get around to it. But anyway, like okay, like the time I went on like a job interview to the Wax Museum and it was like a three hour job interview and then they ghosted me and they never called me back. But like then I started having dreams that I would get up in the morning and go to work at the waxing seum and like brush out wigs all day and they were like really boring dreams. But it went on for like a year.

And then oh, also earlier in the summer, UM, they've rebuilt the suicide railing on the Golden Gate Bridge and they accidentally turned the bridge into like a windharp and it started playing the Devil's tri tone in like the sky and like the sky was howling, but like no one I was talking about it because there was like, um, other stuff happening. UM. But anyway, Oh my god, I guess while I have you in this brief moment when I still have you, what I'm asking it? Um, should

I sue the wax Museum. I'm like, please be aware that I'm going to see them guardless, and I'm also suing you for leaving me. No, I'm just kidding. UM. I like you, ye hi, and I call Minemes Miles Unde l A. I was raised in the valley actually. Um. Anyway, Uh, first things first, and super bond to hear the show's ending. You guys have been something that I consistently look forward to listening to a weekly basis. UM, and I've really really enjoyed everything you guys have done on the show.

You actually are the ones that inspired me to start my own podcast. UM, so thanks for that. It's been going strong for about two years and I have you guys to thank for it. Anyway, I'm wanted the call in real quick to UM talk about what Marra Wilson

said on the show last week. I also was a child actor, UM until I was about college age, and I really a lot of features that resonated with me, um in terms of, you know, the way that children and child actors in particular can be very very vulnerable without realizing it, and then they hit a certain age where you know, um, they they kind of have to turn that off in order to continue to exist as

an adult in the real world. UM. And it really kind of fucked me up as an adult because there was a period of time where I, uh stopped having a motion. Basically I had to really like turn myself off completely. UM. And it's taken a lot of years of therapy for me to kind of, you know, get back to the point where if someone compliments me or shows me affection, UH, it doesn't completely send me into a tail spin. UM. And Uh, I beat myself up for just you know existing basically. Um, it's really a

problem and I'm working on it. But I think a lot of it had to do with the fact that, you know, I was so open emotionally as a trial actor that I kind of had to go one eighty in the opposite direction when I got older. Anyway, UM, again, thanks for everything, guys, and I really forward to see what you come up with next. Take care, high night call um. This is my first time calling in. I recently actually just discovered the podcast and have been bingeing

it for the last like two weeks or so. UM. So, like obviously super sad that you guys are leaving, but I did want to call and tell you, uh my kind of crazy, dreamy story that I've been telling to anyone who will listen since it happened, um about like eight years ago. So I lived in Boston where I

went to college, and I lived there several years after. Um, and so I was up there one summer for the entire summer and basically like I got a job working for my school and they put us up in student housing. So I was like sleeping in this like very creepy kind of like super high density dorm that was built by someone who also makes prisons. It's called Warren Towers. UM.

Just totally creepy vibe. UM. But basically, I had this dream that night that I was laying down on the grass in like a big, big grassy area where a bunch of people were tending to their cattle, and they were all dressed in what I would imagine would be clothing that pilgrims would have worn, UM. And it was a beautiful day, like gorgeous summer day, not a cloud

in the sky. When all of a sudden, just a big, big, big black darkness kind of felt over the entire area, and everyone was running around screaming crazy like dropping to their knees and praying UM. And then I woke up and just like kind of started to go about my day. So just kind of like for some background, like I have really intense dreams to begin with, UM, I also have really bad sleep paralysis and has like had a

number of lucid dreams. So me having like kind of really weird intense vivid dreams is and out of the ordinary. But something felt very like distinct about this, UM. But anyway, like woke up. That's just like creepy dorm that I was living in. And I went to like a farmer's market slash like food truck sort of thing um with a bunch of friends, and we went to a coffee shop, sat down to um just like you know, gets some

water and cool off and everything. And the Boston Glope was next to me, like the kind of the remnants that someone had kind of rifled through, and I started to just kind of flipped through it and then got to the section of the newspaper where they have the like this day in history where they kind of left the same things. Ladies, this is Matthew Wills. Altos just wanted to I've actually wanted to call you guys for a while, but I'm a lazy procrastinator. Uh. This podcast

has been really cool. I haven't want to listen to every single episode that I plan on doing that, so name I just wanted me a few random notes. Uh so thirty nine you talked about traumatic movies. Uh, mine would probably the robo Cop. I think RoboCop was brought up in that episode. I watched it with my mother at home because I really wanted to go to see RoboCop two in theaters because it's still would call rober Coop had a cartoon show and a toy line and

comic book. Uh it was for kids, which still I thought I probably weren't every square word in the book watching that movie. Um, and no, the scenes of ultra violence, I was cool about my mother's arms avoiding the screen and crying obviously. Um, let's see Uh, I don't see you guys talks about value the dolls. Um, I read the book to watch the movie. Um, I've always felt that title. The title has always been cool to me. Valid the dolls. I don't know, it's it's evocative for

some reason. Um. I love your plastic surgery episodes. Uh, promoias here. Um, this is stake Fair episode. It was a lot of fun. Um like everybody else. Uh, I'm trying to make this quick. Um. Yeah, it's been a great podcast. Um. Well, because I have to say, I can't wait for you know follows you guys since the granting all days, And I can't wait to see what guts movie next. Uh makes so much with us but mm hm