Into the Microfiche with Rachel Handler

Thank you for that review. And Fred Rachel I also used to work together, and I will double confirm she is also a great coworker and friend and writer. To bring this to my raised meeting, UM, great performance review. We were going to start, sorry inside jokes about the magazine. You guys were catting you raise your consciousness. UM, let's cut off. They just read your aura. They're like, your aura seems good. It's a nice blue year for you

to see. Speaking speaking of auras and crystals, we talked about crystals last week. We got a lot of space news this week. This is both crystal news and space news, which makes it perhaps the most exciting new age news lucky us, which is that I read a story on Live Science, my favorite science story aggregator, about how the Sun is going to turn into a crystal when it dies. Why, well, funny, you should ask just the sun is gonna die? Hold on, I'm trying to pull up the store. I'll tell you

that in a short version that I remember vaguely. Um, there was a new study that was published that said that white dwarfs, which is I think we knew that the Sun would turn into a white dwarf. White dwarves turn into solid crystal cores that are made of oxygen and carbon, and then when they're really really old, this is the discovery, they're just like an entire crystal star. Huh.

So it's not like a diamond though, it's like a or is it like compressed carbon that just turns into I mean, I think that's sort of what it's like, which again is what we were saying last week. Like that to me is what is amazing about crystal Since you're like the Earth, the Earth squished an egg that is like a weird this is scientifically backed up. The Earth made A scientist explain what we call stones and

gems or earth eggs. It's like a footnote about how the age that we think stars are might be wrong because as they turn into white dwarfs, they start cooling and that like kind of distorts what their age. And as we've learned from all the statistics are fake about everything exactly, well, that is true in science, though, It's like old beliefs continually get replaced with like we know more now, and like there's something smaller than a molecule

or whatever and act smaller than that. This also says that the skies are probably already filled with these crystal stars, because it means that there's just a lot of stars that like already burned out and are dead and are just floating around being crystals in the sky. Very very sailor. Yeah. I mean if to be a dead star, it means it's just burnt out, it's done, its energy has been depleted. It's like a plant that's dead. But it's like, you know,

what's how long does it exists in it's dead state? Forever? Yeah, it just like floats, it's like a it's like a rock. Then it becomes like a space rock. But I don't know if it never really does, well, it's just a different form, a different form. Also, before the sun turns into a crystal, it's going to turn up into a giant, red giant and swallow the earth. Well yeah, but right, it's just it's fake news. I'm comforting to think about

me too. That's really soothing. Actually, we should be so lucky to last long after it's swallowed up by the sun. I can't. Speaking of which this is slightly related, but speaking of science, just reevaluating everything, did you guys see that article about how the sun is actually good for you now and sunscreen is killing people? Yes? I know. I loved this article. It was awesome. It said that

written by Russians. No, it was like this one guy who was like, you know what, I know, like all the dermatologists are going to hate me, but I'm just going to say, there are all of these studies that show that avoiding this on is as bad as smoking. Yeah, well, I think you need a little vitamin D and you're like a lot of and and taking vitamin D as a supplement isn't effective. It doesn't help, and you can die all these things that the sun can cure and habits.

You still gotta put on sunscreen on your face, on your but you still go outside, right. I think they're saying, like the lifestyle of avoiding sun is don't be a vampire, don't be a basement team. But that's like what those people are into, right right. Nutrient. Yeah, they said that something like three people out of every hundred thousand people who get skin cancer will die, whereas the odds of dying from a disease that's related to avoiding the sun

is much higher. So it's basically like you should not totally avoid the sun and you should see a dermatologist. What's bad about sunscreen? It blocks the sun? Sunscreen? Yeah, it does, no way, no does read the thing. It's got to read the thing. You got to read the thing. Was this on like Gwyneth Paltrow website, Well it was a real thing. It was. I said it to my everyone, I know, because everyone likes to give me ship because I was a young lifeguard who my face. I was like,

I'm gonna be okay. Well, we'll cite that source in our show notes and make sure I feel like the lobby for Big Sun may have paid for this. We're talking about Big moon, because um, we're talking about the super blood super upon and I believe Emily was like, what's up with the silly moon names? And a bunch of people were like, well, actually, well very old. I was glad that people clarified this. I mean, to be fair, I was asking about the whole name because there is

such a thing as like, obviously a supermoon. We know it's about supermoons. We know about blood moons. I had personally never heard of a wolf moon. But some people are saying this is an indigenous thing. Other people seem to say it's like an old world thing, a wolf there are actually, well as somebody who bought the twenty nineteen,

which is almanac. Okay, long ago, all right. There's like a bunch of different names for every moon, and most of them are like indigenous names that then American colonizers like kept, so things like the corn moon. Have you ever heard the wolf saying to the blue corn moon is a thing? Sorry? Please? Ever heard no wolf sang to the wolf moon? Because the wolf moon is one of the moon's. There's a worm moon that is the number one moon in my book. Why is it a

because it's when it's awesome. It's because it's when the worms start coming out of the dirt. Yeah, it's like the end of winter when the worms start coming to the drawn out by the gravity of the moon. Like, yes, exactly, they probably do know. It's all. It's all super cool and uh and awesome and well, we do have to bring more moon info. I have a super Wolf blood moon coming up in five No, it's in January because it's the first full moon of the year. It'll be

around when this episode air around, it will be around. Yeah. Uh, so check it out. Keep keep your eyes out for the super Wolf blood moon. Oh you know what happens right after that A nightcall live show that long. I wish we could get a super Wolf blood moon while at our DJ set. But alas one more bit of a space news. It's been a really amazing last few months in general for setting news. Uh again search for

extraterrestrial intelligence. Um. But the most recent thing that I was so, I was so glad that you guys sent this to me. I had at least two other friends who sent this to me. UM that there have been these series of deo burst detected by radio astronomers or radio telescopes uh that so far they have not ruled out uh could be coming from stra extraterrestrials. But there it's repetitive. That's like the reason that it's noteworthy. It's

like a signal that's now repeated itself. Um, nobody knows what's in the signal yet, nobody's like, I don't think anybody has tried to dig into it yet, But it did get me um reading about the theory about gamma ray bursts as a possible um uh mode of communication from extraterrestrials because those happened every once in a while, and apparently in a gamma ray burst you can pack the entire information like this, some total of all information on planet Earth could be packed into a gamma ray burst.

So a very advanced civilization could hypothetically send everything about themselves to us in one single like millisecond. What they're beaming us they're hard drive. Yeah, it's very possible. Why can't we cat it? Uh? We were too dumb well to to to be accurate. These are not gamma ray burst, These are radio bursts. These were discovering on a radio telescope.

After you go into this, the same um astronomer guy av Loeb, who who was kind of opening about the fast radio verse being meaningful today there was something about this potential spaceship called Yeah, and he's the same guy. He's just like I am. I'm working at Harvard now I'm just gonna like speak my mind about the So I can't remember this is if this is the same guy who I heard on an interview on Big Picture Science, which is the podcast of the SETI Institute, which I

am a proud subscriber. But he I think he was talking about UMMA, which is like this weird long sort of um structure that that a lot of scientists are saying doesn't look like it's naturally occurring. Just the shape of it does not look like the way that asteroids or um there's the word for asteroids that aren't in the asteroid belt. But it's like it doesn't look naturally occurring.

And he was hypothesizing that it was a solar sale that had made its way to us from some other civilization like billions of years ago or something, because it's just this like long skinny thing. Uh it Yeah, but it was I think that was discovered a couple of months ago. Um, what are the odds it's the monolith from two thousand one. I mean it kind of looks like it. I mean it's not it's not as clean, but it's it's it's long. Well, once we get it

and like, you know, stand it up. Producer Venge just held up his jewel to suggest maybe the aliens have been vaping. Maybe every time you jewel it's like a Gamma ra you learned something about an ancient civilization, You download an entire ancient aliens that vibrates. Maybe it's just it's vibrating. The game maraised right to the dome the dome. But I think that the deal with Uma, which is um it means what does it mean? I forget I wrote it down, so uh it is uh. I guess okay,

waitwai Hawaii Hawaiian first distant messenger or scout um. But the deal was I guess it's the first it's the first object to pass through the solar system and like be identified as being like foreign to our solar system. So but also it's like, yeah, it's powered by the sun with like technology that we don't have. I don't know. My husband this morning was like, hey, did you hear about I was like, what he's like, and he's like google it, and I was like, I can't because you're

giving me nothing to do. So it's like some alien vikings. Alien vikings. Yeah, like an alien viking barrels just like glided all the way out of summer time. That would be cool. When this lands on Earth. Twitch probably won't but if it did, Yeah, would you touch it? Yeah?

I touch it. Let somebody else touch it first. To make sure every time I talk about aliens, I can't talk about them for too long before I get really worked up thinking about dying before I get really we're talking about this like last week with the Drake equation, just the likelihood of it even happening as long as they're humans on Earth. What okay? But what if death is when you break on through to the other side. Yeah, it's in contact? Yeah, yeah, you meet your dad beach.

I love how that's what people always come up with, is it's like you meet yourself. Aliens just care about your um. We should read the Book of Contact. That would be because I've never read it. I've just seen the movie a gazillion times, but I would love to read. I like things about contact, things about the aliens making Yeah, we are all just like we'd like to be there. My recent favorite, um, this is not easy doesn't even

qualify as a joke. But anytime I like pick up food that's fallen on the floor, Now my line is just we are all stars. Well, I keep trying to bring this up on the pod. But UFO cults, which are like, there are a bunch of religions that are based around the idea that the raptures when the aliens come. Yeah, of course it just makes sense. And they're like, well, like people think Jesus is going to come back, and it's you know, sounds eerily similar to when the aliens come,

has it? Well that was Heaven's Gate, right, Yeah. There's one called Happy Science. I think that's Japanese. There's a good Wickmu still around. There's a there's a bunch the aliens I believe are a UFO call. There's Eunarius, which is not technically like a rapture called I Love Funarius. Snarius is on the there on the flyer for our first live show. Um, they're now run by a woman, a woman who's like the Empress of Aliens. They used to have a show on Public access in l A

all the time. That was a parade of the planets. It was like it was so all the things you love. It's really it imprinted on me very deeply because they would always show it because the Unarians just like bought up all this time on l A public access. And again like that's why I love podcasting. It's because it feels public access. Um, but I will post Molly, you should start a USO. I would love to. That's what Nightcall is eventually going to become. Obviously, Um, don't tell

anyone about stage three. Hey, we were going to talk a little bit about Pour them out for a friend of the podcast who is no longer with us. Yes, lonely George, who was the last of his species of tree snail, has died. He was fourteen years old. Blew my fucking mind that he was that old old snail. It's a fourteen year old snail. I had a snail girling up, a pet snail. She lived, I know, poor went out again. Our kindergarten class had like tiny baby snails and I was able to procure a tiny baby

snail and brought her home. She lived for many years, but not fourteen. Wait, how many years did it live for us? She lived until I was in like fourth grade. Five years first five years of snail in my house. My parents are saints. What was its name? I don't remember its name. I know you were hoping I would tell of sail. You couldn't get you raise. That I had a snail for five years is a much less problematic way of saying that. It's also interesting with George.

They had been trying to find a mate for George for a long time, but he didn't. He wasn't interested, didn't want to mate. Um. He also I think that they are neither male nor female, but they just decided that he was. He his researchers, George. George is an introgenous name to me, Madam George, Madam George Georgie girl. Yeah, yeah, um,

I like that. In the National Geographic article about George's passing, they say throughout his life, which is already already funny to me, George was a public face for the struggles facing Hawaiian land snails. It's sad, but it's also immediately I think of a face of a snail, and I'm just like, no, they're they're so did I talk about I talked about banana slugs. When I came back from the Bay and I had seen a bunch of banana slugs.

I promised my boyfriend there would be banana slugs, and then there were, and I guess it was unusual to see them in Berkeley, but um, I showed them for you all about them, and I learned that it's like their genitals or maybe on their head because they yeah, they and they have like sillia that are like a million tongues. Um, and let's make sure that that's that's for sure. I don't want to to bad mouth no,

but one is not. One of the things I learned is that they're all hermaphroditic, and so they all are not a gender that we have, you know, they're like a new gender. So these are banana slugs, these are Branda slugs. But I think a lot of slugs and snails are hermaphroditic and they reproduce where like everybody has both. You know what's weird is like, show me a slug

and I'm just never impressed. Show me a snail, any kind of snail, and I'm like, because it has a house that has a house, just like slug is too terrible for me to connect with. It's so goo it's too gooley to gooey. Well, that's what makes I agree with you. A right, it's different. That's what makes it like, well, you know, to take care of it. No not, what do you think about like jelly fit, I don't like. I don't care for them. I don't like that. I

think her eatin. Hermit crabs are like somehow superior to regular crabs. Yeah, what's I mean? No, I eat crabs, but I wouldn't eat a hermit crab. Probably be because I'm like, look at its investment that it carries around. WHOA that crab's got its shipped together. That crab it's achieved a separate you know, it's moving up in life, like it's I'm not going to take anything. Some of the crabs just can't afford shells because of a recession,

still have shells. I just think it's cool when animals accessorized and they're like really you know, physically attached to hermit crabs are renters. They don't stay in them forever. They're there. They're rent they're renting to own. They're relatable, not related. But my mom saw a raccoon on her porch yesterday just like peel and eat a mandarin, and I was like, that's I love it. Yeah, So we have Rachel on today to talk to her, not only because what was our what was our line about you?

Your great writer and a great a great friend, but also because you have an abundant of ghost stories and you're here to share them with us, and we are here to receive them and think about them. Uh so yeah, give us some background. What was this uh this haunted house? And uh what was your relationship to write? So the ghost stories are mostly all related, sort of in one long story I'll tell I'll tell it medium, Like I've

told this so many times, I have like versions. Um so, the haunted house was my grandparents house, which is in suburban Illinois where I spent a lot of time growing up. I slept there on a lot of weekends and started my siblings and we were there all the time, this big spooky house with like a ton of weird rooms and weird balconies, and it was just like a creepy, bizarre house. You know when it was built? I think

it was built. I mean I feel like it's at least a hundred years old, but I know they remodeled it in like a weird seventies way, which you mean it even creepier, like a lot of orange carpeting and stuff. Um. Also, I almost died there a different time. Where my cousin almost died there a different time by my hand. That's a different story, like by accident. We decided we would try to be Mary Poppins and Umbrella off the balcony, and it didn't go well, and it was my plan.

No one died. I saved her by gripping her arms and holding her up on the balcony, So I guess I saved her life. Really, it feels like something out of the New Mary, Yeah, exactly. Um. But anyway, so this all started when I was maybe seven years old. Um, I woke up in the middle of the night. I was kind of sick, so I was having like a fevery evening and I woke up in the middle of

the night and I remember hearing the piano playing. They had a piano downstairs, and I remember thinking that it was my grandpa or my dad because they both played. And I was so pissed off, and I kind of walked into the hallway, and then I kept playing and I realized, like it was one in the morning, there was no way they were playing the piano, and got really scared and ran back to my room. I kind

of convinced myself that I was dreaming. I told my parents and grandparents about the next day, and they were like, you definitely dreamed that, And I kind of like gasolate myself into believing that I dreamed, and I was like no. And then a few years later, my brother was there alone with my baby sister. I think he was babysitting, and he was in the basement and he heard the piano playing like one note over and over again above him and called my grandparents and made them come home.

So I think a couple of things like that happened. Our parents were like, you guys are imagining it, your kids whatever. No one kind of took us seriously. So then in high school I met my best friend, so she kind of realized this connection earlier than I didn't. Didn't tell me for a few years because she knew I'd be freaked out. Um, she realized that her let

me see if I can get this right. Her great grandpa, her step grandpa, her step grandpa grew up in the house next door to that house when he was growing up and had like crazy stories about it that he had told her about the family that lived in that in my grandparents house. So she heard all these stories and like knew it was about the family that lived in my grandparents else, but didn't tell me because she knew I was there a lot and didn't want to freak me out. Few years go by, she's like, Okay,

I'll just tell you this story that I know. So she tells me the following story, which is there was a family that lived there. The dad was this prominent surgeon and and he and the mom were both addicted to some drug that he got at the hospital. I don't know which one, I would like opioids or something. And they had a daughter and they were very obsessed with her, being like a piano prodigy, like they wanted her to play the piano and be really good. And

so the grandpa was friends with the daughter. My friends, grandpa was friends with his daughter, and they would play and then she would get called inside and hear like playing the piano and crying and be the pews and being the all dad um and then one day, the dad odeed and the mom a week later killed herself, and then the daughter got like shipped off somewhere and that came back eventually back to the house and was I think, was like eighteen years old and had like

a Carney boyfriend and a monkey that she treated like a baby. So this is the story she tells me. So so the way she told it was that the daughter eventually died in my grandpa ins house. So that's the version we were working under for a really long time. So I told my grandparents this story. They were like, yeah, we actually heard that, like that all checks out, and I was like, holy sh it. Okay, but still my

grand my parents and my grandma didn't believe us. A little more time goes by, um, and then I'm at college. I come home and my grandparents are like, okay, with something to tell you. While you were at college, we both woke up at four in the morning and we heard the piano playing like it woke both of us out of sleep, and obviously nobody else is there. My

sister was staying over one night. She was going downstairs in the middle of the night for some reason, and she heard it from the top of the stairs playing and she called me and I was like, college, she was crying and she was like, I'm hearing the piano and I said, why are you crying and she said, I'm really excited. She was like, this is the coolest thing ever. She was just like I'm overwhelmed. Finally it happened.

And there was a bunch of other like little things that happened, like this bedroom that we used to all stay and I used to feel it shaking in the middle of the night. Um and my sister would then later stay in it and she would feel shaking from

all night. And my little list sister, who's fifteen, said she when she was a kid who was playing there with one of her friends, and she looked up the stairs and saw a woman standing there, like dressed in all black or something, and her friends saw it too, and then they both kind of circled back to see if they if that woman was there, and she wasn't. So there's just a bunch of weird children. This is

like the baseline story. The next thing that happened, I'll make it short, but um, I when I went home like six months ago, I decided to do some research because I had googled these this family over and over and never been able to find anything about them, not even Ovidaris. I went to the library. I met with this historian who worked at the library. Yes, I did. I went into the micro feast and I and I took me so long, it was so hard to find.

And finally I found these oh bits for both of the parents with the same names that I had heard, and they were very sketchy, like it didn't say cause of death, it didn't say anything. It was just like one week the dad died, the next week the mom did it. And then there's a picture of the daughter in the yearbook and she looked really miserable. It's like all these nineteen fifties cheerful girls and she's like morose

in the background. It's really creepy. And then I found all these other crazy details, like that there was money hidden in the walls and all there was like all these recurring news stories about it. So the craziest thing was I told the history in this story and she was like, most people come in here with a crazy story and it's not true. She's like, this is one of the only times I've been able to find like full evidence for what someone is talking about. UM, So basically,

we've all heard the piano playing. My dad actually separately saw a young girl walking towards him at one point, like nearby the house, and that no one else saw. So we've all had weird experiences. Um, but we can't. We all thought it was the young girl who was the ghost, but then the historian told me she couldn't find an o bit for the girl, so we think she might still be alive. Yeah, so I'm trying to find her to find out, we have to find I know,

I have a question. Yeah. It's always just the same note over and over, sometimes as someone playing, like a song. So I've heard a song, my brother heard a note, and I think my sister heard a song. What song? I don't remember what my parents I don't remember, and I don't remember what my parents heard or my grandparents heard. Remember how it went, Oh my god, that would be so cool. Yeah, it was just it's just kind of

ominous and creepy. But we don't think the ghost is bad because obviously nothing bad has happened while we've all been going in and out of that house for like, you've also have just gotten rid of the piano right right, Also, the attachment to the piano seems negative if it was like a thing that she was being forced well, unless she's alive and it's the mom. We think it might be the mom. Now if you're the daughter, Oh my god,

it's me suddenly, I suddenly my skin crumbles. I was novel version or didn't even read down a Dark Hall. I think it's called I don't remember. It's a really good y horror book that I was into about like a bunch of girls at a boarding school who are all like forced to do different talents. And then they realized they've all been sleepwalking and like channeling. They're being

used to channel different great artists. So one of them is like, she wakes up playing the piano and it's because she's being used to like channel the ghost of like Mozart to write new music. It's a good I wish that was happening to me. Oh my god. I have an idea. You've got to get your grandparents to to get a medium, like you have to go from in this I tried. So. I actually held a lot of sciences in their house as a child. I was like the head of the science committee and my family.

I just forced everyone to have sciences all the time. I was a spooky kid, so that didn't help. Um, like obsessed with graveyards and death. But um but like I so, I've I've floated the idea of a medium past them, and they're not into it. I think they just don't want to. They don't really like talking about it, and they're not really into the whole They kind of don't believe it even though everyone has heard it. They're like, oh, it's energy, and I'm like, well, that's the same thing.

Well it's also like I mean, I can kind of understand that if it's your home, because it's like I feel like it's one of these things where the more you buy into it, or not necessarily buy into it, like with money, like with the medium, but like yourself, like the more you acknowledge that this is like an ongoing thing, the more I feel like I would just like imagine more things happen. Totally. Because it's this ongoing situation that I've now diagnosed within my house, it feels easier.

I Mean, even when people are like, straight up, do you for sure believe it ghosts, I'm like, well, how the fund do I Yeah, I don't know. I just I'll tell you the evidence and you tell me, like, what else could it be? It's a really talented raccoon coming in and practicing. Yes, maybe it's possible. Man, you should be so lucky. Yeah. I just feel like it's definitely something that we don't have an ex a nation for that we can put any kind of like neat

you know, there's no real explanation for it. It's something that just this murky, weird mystery that I've really enjoy I was just going to say, how much time do you spend like thinking about this and looking into it? Because honestly, if it were me, I would spend twenty four hours a day just google people and trying to

get to the bottom of it. When I let myself I do that, Like I when I was home and I was doing all that research, I was I was like texting my family every five minutes for like a week, and they were like okay, please um. But so when I when I have time and I have the inclination, I get really deep into it. But then I kind of have to step back and be like, Okay, there's like a million people with this girl's name in America.

We don't even know who she married. It's really hard to find her because she's gone off the grid basically, or she completely changed her name. But I'm obsessed with the idea of finding her, and I really want to. So she came back, Well, she came back when she was eighteen, you said, or she like, did she finish high school? Fair? I think she. I think she went off somewhere like or she finished high school. All I know is that she had a monkey as a baby.

That's all I know. I don't know exactly where she got any monkey. Soda oats, yeah, all the secrets. Maybe the monkey lives in the house. It's playing the piano. Oh maybe of an old as monkey. You don't these like babies are a bugaboo. And if there's like a Phantom of the opera monkey living in the basement and like coming up, like a year old monkey like comes up occasionally to play at the piano my symphony, that

would actually be a really exciting explanation. I feel like I may have seen you play this piano, perhaps on social media. Is that possible? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, my not me. I don't play the piano, but my my grandparents and my sisters and my dad. I'll play to me, it's the same one that they had. They no, it's

not the same. Okay, it's my grandparents piano. I want to know if the piano is playing, if you go look at the piano, do you think it looks like one of those player pianos where the depressing or is it like a different Like the noise isn't coming from that piano, it's like coming from a different piano. I'm never going to say about this, by the way, I know, I don't think it's coming I don't necessarily think it's coming from the piano. I think that it doesn't sound

like a piano downstairs plane. Well it does, but I can't tell you if it's like coming from that room. It just sounds like it's downstairs and maybe their piano was in the same spot, But I don't I don't think that literally, like someone is planking on the piano, right, It doesn't sound that. No, like it's the same. It's more it's a different dimension with the present. Yeah, so

this is like overall like a positive thing in your childhood. Like, yeah, I think of like my neighbor Toto and they're like, yeah, we live in a haunted house. About it? Just like I loved it. I was like, let's go to Grandma's all the time. I loved it and I loved sleeping there, and I would freak myself out. I had a brief

period in high school when I got really scared. I think this was after I heard the story from my friend and I would run past the piano when I came over, like I couldn't look at it, even though I don't know what like I would have seen. But I had like a weird period. I put my hand over my eye. But then I got back into it again a little Wednesday. Atom, so you were like owning it. Yeah, I was obsessed. I asked my dad now and like, weren't you ever worried that I was so obsessed with

death and I just go sit in cemeteries. He was like, um No. I was like, okay, Dad, seemed like such a good sport about It's amazing. Yeah. I mean, I like, I remember wishing that I lived in a haunted house when we moved houses, when I think before I was in third grade, and I think I had kind of figured out I don't know if it was told to me. But I knew that the previous owner of the house had been like an old man, like a widower, and he had most likely died in the house. Um, And

so I loved to kind of spook myself. There's like a weird crawl space in attic and I would like poke my head in and freak myself out. We would have been friends, yeah, But I was like, there's nothing interesting there. It was just like I don't know, it was there's nothing haunted about it. I mean, everything feels a little bit like dank and haunted in the Pacific Northwest. But but there was no actual ghost activity. I keep saying like I would if if show me show me

any paranormal act, I would love to see it. Show me a go show me. I do believe though that like you have to, I mean that whole thing about you have to kind of be open to it. I agree, like I think because I was so into that as a kid. It was kind of I was a bit of a portal. I was like a girlfriend Poulter guys, putting my hands on the TV, on the piano. Also, the haunted street, I am now, no, not my street now but the street that I lived on until I was five, which is like down the street from where

we record this podcast. It's Sierra Bonita in Hollywood. Yeah, I like, is that haunted? Yeah? I like found out as an adult that it's like famously haunted. What do you mean there's supposedly like a like a haunted stagecoach goes down it Really I think I learned about it actually from less than Zero because he talks about it in Less than Zero, but it also comes up a lot of like California ghost history books that like Sierra No.

I know about this, Yeah, yeah, because I I used to ride my bike up Sierra Bonita and then I think I I and I used to this again we're revealing stuff about stages in our life. I used to keep a copy of less Than Zero on my nightstand, Uh just like read read a page of it like before going to sleep every night. But I do remember I think that, Yeah, that that that all? Yeah, I

do remember that. It also you see it in actual like California ghost history books, which I also yeah a little bit of um, but they also in mulhalland Drive. I think the apartment complex that they live on is on Sierra Bonita. It's it's called like the Sierra Bonita Apartments or something, which I thought was a fun a fun touch because it's haunted. Yeah, it's mad haunted. I mean there's a lot of haunting going on. I live really close to there's like this haunted house with like

a torture dungeon that I passed. Sometimes I'm just like, I don't know. It's the Black Dahlia House really, but I'm not into it because I'm like afraid of it. You know, I've been. I've been there. I won't do it. Man. I went there as a kid once again, I didn't know it was haunted. My brother's friend lived there and we picked him up from a sleepover. And it's the weirdest house because it's like you're talking about the one

on Franklin, right. Yeah, it's built by Frank Lloyd Wright Jr. It's called like the Shark House or so in house it's called the people called it the Jaws House because it looks like a shark. It looks like a Jaws. Yeah, it's terrified looking. And then sort of recently it came out that it was like where this surgeon lived who

was probably the Black Delia Killer. But when I went there to pick him up from the sleepover, it was like, it's this house that has this giant outdoor patio in the middle, this like large open space like an atrium, like an atrium with like a pond and stuff. And I just remember being like, this is the creepiest place I've ever been. Like my brother I was talking about sleeping over there and like having to get up and

use the bathroom at night, being like very scary. Yeah, And then again later vindicated it is different from the Ennis House, right, different, but it looks a lot. It looks Frankloid Right. Junior built a bunch of kind of Frankloyd Right knockoffs you know that are that are good. But this one just looks like legos. It looks like it's been built with legos. We'll take a picture of it.

Can you can you airbnb it? Well, somebody was saying, actually, I did a podcast, I did the sup doc which is a documentary podcasts down the hill from there, and they were saying that like somebody had bought it and then was using it as an event space, and that all the neighbors were mad because they were constantly. Somebody bought it for like a weed, a wed start up or something. It looks like that's probably destiny. That is bad for your startup. You're haunted like a bunch of

really stoned people in a murder house. But it's also great. Maybe they haunted weed. Maybe the weed got ghosts in it. Again, I love that idea, right, Maybe the black Daya is a strain of weed. I've literally never seen this. Can you see it from the street? Yeah, I'll post a picture. It's really scary looking. No, I'm no. I mean I'm looking at it right now, but I'm like, I've never

seen this. For a while. It was really overgrown. It was on the market like two years ago, I think, and it had like a bunch of kind of landscaping that had gone nuts in front so he couldn't really see it. And then they ripped out all the landscaping and they did this like really cool landscaping. But then it's just like it's a very strange looking house. So you just started like that it looks like a haunted house.

It looks very haunted. My whole thing with houses is that I get like, I just get vibes, but I don't think I have a very good like spiritual read. So I'm always like, oh, if you sleep on a level that's below street level, you know, if you have to walk down to go to your bedroom, you'll get suppressed.

And I stand by this. I think in in specific houses or any house where it's like an upside down floor plan where the bedrooms or a bedroom are like below the main floor, I feel strong, right, I totally you have the weight of your house on you while you It's true. I am also I'm also a big vibe person. Like if I walk into a house or a restaurant, I can I'm instantly like I want to kill myself. I have to lose. Yeah, oh I have

that all the places. Yeah, there are places where I'm just like I know I'm supposed to like meet somebody for dinner in there, but like maybe we can go someplace all maybe not. I walked out of so many restaurants. I'm like the worst timemtenance bitch a lot. I'm like, I can't eat in here. I will die. Have some credibility as a haunting expert, you could, yeah, I everybody like, no, this place is haunted. We don't want to go here. It's true. We're like this place isn't haunted enough. We

should go to the more. I also feel like eating in a haunted places like somehow worse than just being in a haunted place. Yeah, yeah, because I can't. Yeah exactly. Yeah. Uh. Night call listeners. If you have ever eaten in a haunted place, or if you have ever gotten immediate bad vibes from a restaurant or bar or republic business, please give us a night call at one two four oh for six night or a night email at night called podcast at gmail dot com. I know you guys are laughing,

but I'm dead serious. You gotta call that number if that's true, if you've eaten food and series, I want to know. Also, name names, name fucking names. Why I'm endorsing the phrase name names on this podcast name boat name name. Ghosts. Don't shame ghosts, No, never introduce us to them. We would like to meet them. So we have a night email this week, very dutifully following up on our request for emails and calls about not the

desert but dessert. Um. And this comes to us from at Bordeaux Blues, who has asked to be identified by his Twitter handle. And that's good because I don't think I couldn't pronounce his name, although I am familiar with him from Twitter. So here is Bordo Blues. Hello, dear Night Call crew. I really wanted to ask a question

after listening to the latest episode. But since my only desert experience as a kid from Sweden is from my mother's hometown in Anatolia and the snowy hills up north aren't sufficiently dessert like, maybe asking about desserts is more of my lane this time around. And since the first dessert that always comes to mind for me is baklava, I think all I can ask is what is your favorite foreign dessert dish as in an an American pastry

or something in that general area pastry. Good question, Thank you, This is a very good question. And and um, the collar emailer is from Sweden. Uh and this just immediately made me think of the Swedish Princess Cake from Great British Pakeoff. Are you guys familiar well with the show? Familiar with the show? Um, I will say that, like most of the things on Great British Bake Off, look very disgusting. It was agreed the Princess cake, like the

like million layer cake. Yeah, it's it's like got a zillion steps and it's but it's a dome and it has a marzipan outer lay. It actually looks like it would be really delicious. I don't know if I was eating it. I'm not like a super big cake person. I'm going to come out hard here and say that

I like pie for pie. I like I like there to be usually why not both Boston Cream Pie again, Boston Cream Pie, best of both worlds, not foreign, not no, no, but but I just say pi versus cake for the thing I've gotten super into in the past couple of years, or Choco Pies, which are a Korean version of moon pies, which are an American thing. But it's like one of those things where somebody like does a cover version and it's better than the original. You know. Um, they're just

like really good. They're not like a pastry per se though, they're more of like a snack cake. Um, but snat cake can be a dessert. They're like little chocolate disks, um, And they're delicious and I recommend um. I haven't had the Choco pies. I don't think I feel like i've had versions of it, I if we're talking about Asian pastries or like, I don't know, this isn't a favorite,

but I just love the idea of it. Um. There's like a very like everywhere type of cake in Japan called the castella cake, which is like a weird kind of Portuguese cake that's been turned into a Japanese cake. Um, and people give them as gifts like they're it's like it's basically like a pancake, but it comes in a really fancy box. Yeah, I mean, but it's super basic. But the thing about the castella cake is like, well, one they because it's like it's Japanese, and they put

as much packaging as possible. A lot of times they'll be cut already in individual slices with like pieces of paper something in between them, like these perfect little slices. Um. And also because of the way that the climate is in Japan, a lot of times they vaguely taste of mildew, like this is just a feature, not a bug that

they kind of taste like mildew. Uh. And also each town I think has like their own castella cake, but they all taste the same as far as I can it's just like a weird kind of like cake of the mind. Yeah, cake, that's basically it. I like it's art objects. I mean, I think on the Great British Bake Off that comes up a lot, all the pastry creating shows. It's like, I just find frosting disgusting. So you're not into I'm very like prejudiced against a lot

of Midwestern foods. It turns out, yeah, because of wow rude, it's very rude. I'm sorry. I like a rustic tart y'all. I like some house Walk California review. But I'm trying to think, like what's the most the most like fun pie. I'm gonna say for my foreign dessert, I'm going to stand for Tira missu. Tira Missy was the first dessert I truly enjoyed. I think tiramisu would definitely be served at Roman Memories, Molly and My nineties themes. Yeah, and

black forest cake. I don't like black forest I don't really like fruit and chocolate. It's a black forest ice cream of like a black forest cake themed ice cream at an ice cream place I went all the time called Swenson's, and then I like that sounds great, all the time. You know what ice cream I think about all the time. It's not ice cream, it's a gelato. Hogandas how this hazelnut gelato, it was the best thing

that I ever had in my entire life. And then they know it was not at all chocolate e. It was like it was just so good and the texture it was like a little bit. It was a very good gelato texture is very soft and scupable, even right from the freezer, and it was like fluffy and that the flavor was like so good and they got rid

of it, you guys, and I've been looking. It's like the entimate Black got into the chocolate pip because there was a place in the Second Street mall in Little Tokyo that had like a choco pie ice cream with the chopped up choco pies and it was like it's like a moon pie but Korean, and so I got the ice cream and that was the gateway to getting into the chocolate trust trust Es. I'm going to also throw out it's good honestly, can be too wet. It really depends on the lady Chira Misu saying a cake

Tierra Tierra Missu. What I mean tess le Chase is like, literally, isn't like three mi three miles it's but honestly, sometimes I was getting I was getting that three milk cake and then eventually I was like, it's just so I love that I couldn't get with it anymore. My favorite is Pavlova, which is apparently Australia whatever. It's like a egg white fluffy thing full of fruit, which I know it sounds like not that great, but I like, I like anything that's fluffy, like for a cake shell. Yeah,

really good, like the soft meringue with fruit. So you guys where my friend made it for us when we're all really stoned in the Poconos one So I I'm very very um like I'm not to be trusted on this, but it was like the best thing I've ever Did you go Did you go to any haunted resorts in the Poconos? Did you go to the one where you can you can sleep in the big champagne glass? Oh my god? Night called dream destination. That should be night. It's lamp night is in the Poconos in the champaign

is that? Is that what it is? Because they advertise on the subway they're like come have your romantic getaway and this like nasties like champagne glass bed. Because I am the ghost, I am always. I think we can't improve from there. If you've got any any opinions about cakes, if you've been to the Poconos. Also, yeah, the champagne blast the size of a campaign ad as they say, isn't that a line? It's a line from a song Champagne. That's besides of a campaign. I think it is. Are

sure I'm quoting? Give us a call or an email one two four oh four six night or at Night Call Podcast at gmail dot com. Follow us everywhere you want to follow us Twitter, Nightcall Pod, Facebook, Night Called Podcast, Instagram, Night Called Podcast. Um and once again, we've got a show coming up, a DJ show, not a podcast show, but it should be fun. You can come out. We'll play some tunes, We'll have some Boston Cream pies. It's

gonna be a fun night. Five some gold Diggers Magic from Emma Who's amazing Magic Our Night Call adjunct magician, February five at gold Diggers in Los Angeles. That's it for Night Call this week. Thank you Rachel for being here. Thank you for the ghost stories. We'll see everybody next week by B.