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talking about It's about your co host. She's really cool. Oh yeah, you just met her a couple of days ago. I new a new co host. Her name is Tawny Newsom. She's great and it really brings a good energy up into the podcast house. You guys have some really good new promo art also. Oh yeah, where you're like yelling into the phone dress like business people. Yeah, we made Tony came up with the idea for it, and we we got like like a real ass photo shoot, which

is really good. It made me be like I would like to watch this legal drama were new and Tonny or a couple of people yelling into phones. Also to say Andrew's podcast was one of our first favorite podcasts. How long have you been doing? You know, as this racist a long time now, like four years, three years, four years, endless lifetime. And I was when I when I first started podcasting. The deal with your Wolf the company was don't worry, We're not gonna make any money,

but the idea is we'll try. We'll try to turn this into a TV show because they're also TV producers. And I was great, And then later on they were like, actually, it turns out people can make money from podcasting, so you're gonna have to try. And now you're making so much money as a podcaster, as are we all. Yeah, a true pioneer in the field. I had to Yeah, I change it up. Yeah, but I mean you've been doing that podcast for a long time now. It's very good,

actually useful podcast. I think it was the first one I ever listened to. Yeah, jeez, yeah, we I've had like five podcasts since then, including one that you were my co host. Oh my god, yeah, North Mollywood. Alright, do you know that that was just like one year ago. You had girls in hoodies, girls and hoodies. Then you had and I had it was called the Lambert Report. How wait what? I had a show by myself on Greatland for a while after the Girls in Hoodies were

no longer. They're called the Lambert Report because there was like an episode of Melrose Place I watched where somebody was like, look at these statistics from the Lambert Report, like, that's my show name. I couldn't find the clip ever again, so I could never really explain why that was the show. I mean, it sounds so serious. It's like the Palmer I think I thought it was funny, and you know, it sort of is to me, that is super funny. And then Dave Shelling was my co host on that

for a little bit. And then I had North Mollywood at MTV. Yeah, I missed the Lambert Report, and it's a brief it was, you know, only the truest side. Yeah, it's all it's all a unified universe of Molly Lambert podcasting.

I guess it was Actually did say it was the Lambert Account, No, the Lamber Okay, I called it the Lambert Account because Bill Simmons had a podcast called the The BS Report, and then there was the Lambert Account on Melrose place remember that, and I thought it was funny, but I had like Megan am Ram on it was basically just like a dry run for Molly Sleazy Friends. It was just like me interviewing people one at a time. Uh, shout out, Megan am ram get get it. You have

that that night. I hope she get it. Actually, if we're plugging my old podcasts, uh, the very first one I did, like seven years ago, just on a laptop, was called A Round of Applause with Travis and Andrew. Four episodes and you can still find them. My college radio show is called Live from the Masterdome because that was the name of the auditorium and my friend Lizzie's school,

and I thought it was funny. Uh. And I totally tricked them into giving me a show where I just talked a lot because I did a radio theater show and then I like found out how much work it was to produce radio theater every week. I didn't produce like two plays on like live plays, and then I was like, what if instead of that, I just like play fire sign theater cuts and then like talk in between. But it was definitely sort of the the framework for all the podcasting I Do, which is talked about on

North Mollywood about reading one of those plays. We never made it. The best play that Molly's ever written as an ice Cream Man for All Seasons, which she wrote in twelfth grade. Yeah, yeah, this is a very good play. My sister was just at home in Michigan and she started sending me, like texting me pictures from a picture book I wrote when I was I must have been like, I think fourth or fifth grade or something. That was that the one where it looked like you were trying

to overthrow the government? Yeah, I saw that. It's super fascist. Though it's about the Secret Agent Union. For some reason, I was really anti Secret Agent Union at the time, which I guess is fair. I mean, at least they were a union. We're going to post this on our on our instagrae. This kind of reminds me of do you guys know there's a comics guy named Ben Mara who's really awesome. He does these really awesome comics. I

love his comics. He has a comic called Night Business that totally is like of the Night Call Universe that all just takes place like at night. It's like all eighties movie action kind of troops. You would love it. He did one called One Man War on Terrorism. That's really like they're sort of like parodies of like super super far right like action e you know, military eighties

comic stuff. You would love it. Speaking of angry men SPEAKINGSM Test, I just would love you to lead off with the thing you just told me about who invented the term in cell? You just learned yesterday. So here's the deal. I haven't looked ever at the Wikipedia for in cells because I get so anxious and angry when I read the New York Times and some up ed columnists is saying, hey, look well let's read distribute sex

because the insults have a point. So I forced myself for the podcast to look into the Wikipedia for in cells. The first time that the term in cell was used

was in by a woman named a Lana. She was a Canadian college student, and so she made a website to talk about being like socially awkward and not having sex, and then that turned into a newsletter and then the term was co opted obviously by a bunch of people who suck um, and she was appalled, and I guess eventually she discovered that she was queer and like things gone much better for her, and she was like, oh,

I think I was just like figuring stuff out. You know, it was nice to have a community and now that's been totally weaponized and is awful in Wikipedia's as. When Alana read about is Lesta killings and the way parts of the insult subculture glorified the perpetrator, Elliott Roger, she wrote, like a scientist who invented something that ended up being a weapon of war, I can't uninvent the word nor restrict it to the nicer people who need it, and

so that's crazy, you know. That's also like I feel like that's so similar to like Matt Fury, who did Boys Club, the comic that Pepe comes from, and who is not a Peppe at all and hates Pepe's And it's like, wow, like my character, you know, just because of like randomly being chosen for them and becoming like imagine that if you're like your creation becomes just like a symbol of everything bad that you hate. Uh. Yeah, it was intended to be the opposite of what it was,

And yeah, I didn't know that. It's so weird to the way that like the far right, all right people have like weaponized identity politics as though it's like something for them, you know, but like the way they used terminology, and they're just postmodern Nazis, that's what it is. The postmodern Nazis is very confusing to me because I was like saying yesterday, like I was looking at Alex Jones twitter feed because he was talking about how, oh, you

guys got plans for July four? I got the Democrats are starting the civil war on July four, and everybody was like, no, nobody's organized enough to get it going. Come on, guys, maybe next year. I was like, sail yeah. But then his other tweet, he had like a Malcolm X tweet and it was like a Malcolm X quote. I didn't google it to see if it was a

real quote. I think it might have been, uh, but it was like a picture of Malcolm X with an Info Wars graphic on it, and the quote is from Malcolm X saying don't trust the media, which is true for him and not true for white men, right that like they but it's also like just to drop that in the middle of this fee that's also all this white supremacist like incitement of like, you know, white men are going extinct and stuff, and it's just like to think that you can just like throw Malcolm X in

there with no context and be like this all goes together. I guess is the postmodernism part that I'm just like, like, what, I also have a postmodern white supremacy because that's the idea. It's like, well, obviously like we're not racist, but like we just cracism, except where really want to kill those people. I don't think they even necessarily do. It's just like, well, somebody somebody said, do you, like, do you really want to know the answer to this? This guy who on

Twitter goes by Webb, who's cool. He was like, here's what I have like decided about this or you know, heard about this. Is like that it is that the white supremacists like like Malcolm X because he was a

black separatist. Oh, I don't think it reaches out to you because what like what supremocists will use Martin Lucer, right, I guess, So yeah, I was like that seems like like because they were like, you know, because they also want like separatism, and I was like, I don't think the kind of separatism they want is like it does everyone gets their own land. But I think it's it doesn't need to be that consistent. It's just like they're not consistent at all, and that's what's so like freaky

about it. Yeah, but here, okay, this is the same thing. That's like like all the people are like, oh, Mitch McConnell, like we can just point out what a hypocrite he is and held back. And the thing is, it's not a hypocrite. It's just like every moment of every action is just in the service of white supremacy with no for or or pretty thought to it. And if you

realize that's how they operate, it's all totally consistent. But also their whole ideology is to be like if you say that, they're like, you're the Nazi for calling us Nazis, Like, how dare you accuse us of this horrible thing that we would never do? And that's like test Nitis did this podcast Behind the Bastards where we talked about we talked a lot of ship on Nancy Reagan for a long time, and it was not she was not the bastard, by the way, she was not the person her astrologer

was the bastard. Jone Quigly and Molly and I were like, we were just we were we were not given an it. Yeah exactly, We're just like, no one should feel bad for manipulating Nancy Reagan, she's a trash person. Well also, I mean what it kind of boils downto is that Nancy Reagan's astrologer was also a kind of like rich socialite, white lady whose politics were also bad. But the decisions Nancy Reagan was making were Nancy Reagan's decisions. The astrologers

just told her when to do it. So what we learned was that the Reagans held all their meetings and press conferences at like super weird times because the astrologer told them they had to, which was really like Christian astrology. No, it was like literally, this lady who was the astrologer was like a rich San Francisco white lady, socialite who didn't want to do a straw ology for poor people. She had a column in seventeen magazine and then she was like, no, like the hordes don't deserve to know

about the stars. Only like very rich and famous people should know, and I will be the one who guides them.

And then she became Nancy Reagan's astrologer. Test and I were just talking a lot about the Reagan years and about the Reagans and how much they sucked and how so many of the policies of the Trump administration are just like the same stuff but more naked, you know, and that that's what horrifies people, is the idea that it's like they're not putting the gloves on, they're not hiding behind a facade of like fancy white people's stuff'd

be fair. I think the Reagans would have absolutely hated what Trump was doing, of course, but it's all like respectability. It's the way, yes, exactly, it's but it's like white supremacy, respectability politics. It's like they, you know, how how dare you be like a low class white like we're you know, British colonizers. You're like put a crown on it. Like Republicans have been this our entire lifetimes. And I wager

the lifetime of anyone listening to this podcast. Hey, there might be one ageless demon or like year old, like what's that great grandma. Yeah, none of the policies are different, right, It's all the same ship, I mean, but in cells and premises are overlapping ven diets. They are overlapping. Basically, I feel like there's that thing where someone predicted what

would happen in or something. Again, I don't know if this is even real or if somebody retcondom meme to make it look like it predicted the future, but it was like, here's what's going to happen, Like the in cells are going to team up with the four chan people and they're going to get into neo fascism. But it's like, if you had said that to anyone in you would have been like, nah, that's crazy. Somebody else

is telling me that. Like to chan, which is the board that four chan was based off of, do it for the luws, fucking you know, doxing people, just all the stuff we associate with, like the dark side of the dark side of the Internet, and that to chan eventually turned into like a Japanese like fascist nationalist just because it's a lot of like alienated, basement dwelling white guys who are like, I'm not going to get mine. I can weaponize my anger about that and make everyone afraid,

and then I have power. I mean, the thing I get super pisted about with the in cells, although now that I know that where insul comes from, I'm also like, yeah, like what about the lady in culls? Like male in cells at least have the option of like paying for sex, you know. I guess there's like that saying that male nerds do where they're just like any woman can have sex,

like any time she wants. There was nothing so chilling though about this wave of editorials and kind of opinions being like, well, what if every woman did feel like maybe they should? And it was like I clutched my problem because I was like, I can't believe this is being aired as a real opinion in a time when there are lots of really important things happening, and this is definitely not the important thing. But it also reminded

me of like in like junior high. I was like, okay, I remember being like thirteen and like realizing that like everyone just liked the hot people and being like wait, like all the everyone just likes the too hot people, Like why can't we like put the people of similar social status together, you know, trying to like put logic into it, and then it's like because nobody wants to be with the person that's like the same as them.

You know, like if you showed all these insults the woman that they deserve or like not that they deserve any women, but like the female equivalent of them, they wouldn't be into it. You know. They're like also adding a level of male entitlement of like we deserve hot chicks for just like being men in the world, which is like the part that makes me insane. I mean,

I just to go back to the predicting thing. It was clear these guys were misogynists who were absolutely ready to be you know, fascist in the way that bigotry always been sex with everything else. Or I didn't think they would take it to real life. I thought it was like the Internet cesspool just would like stay there, you know that they were all like cowards. Well yeah they are, but the thing, the thing towers of access

to weapons and then access to a community. That's why I I've always been like of the you know people who are like it's just better when the racism is out in the open. It's like, I actually just prefer when I know who the racists are, or isn't it better to have it out in the open than have it like simmered and you know, buried and simmering somewhere.

I disagree with that. The analogy I think I've used on my podcast is like it's like putting out a fire, a camp fire, Like, yes, if you bury the coals, there are definitely still coals under the dirt, but the odds of those coals catching another piece of wood on fire and making two coals is much smaller when you bury.

Don't know, I mean, I feel like there again just talking about like the respectability of like the styles of racism, Like people in California are like delusional, especially you know, left wing people. A lot of people are just delusional that California is like a good place where good people live and like that it doesn't happen here, and it does happen here all the time. This woman in Simi Valley just like yelled at a kid who was like

that picture was horrifying. That picture is horrifying, And my friend Ski was posting it like this isn't Seemi Valley, Like, you know, there's an ice facility downtown like by the Mayor's office, like it is super in Los Angeles everywhere, and just like the way racism exists here, it's just different than it. There's another placed city. Well, all cities are segregated. I feel like, yeah, it's segregated. I guess because it's so big and because of the planning. I mean,

also because it's become so expensive. That's another factor for sure. But I mean it's it's difficult to to see the proposition that you know, California be split into three states. Oh man, I have a take on that. It's my hot take. Give it. The only cal exit that I'm pro is. My idea is calm exit. Yes, and we give California back to Mexico. You know what. Yeah, that's the problem is that anytime, you know, you lose so

much power. Again, these are things that I'm like, these are funny to think about because like, no one's going to die from like us all thinking about it. You know, well, well here's why some people will die is that it will so literally, if that happens, it'll solidify it. Basically, those three um states will have two of them will be Republicans. Oh yeah, I don't think it will happen. Yeah, I don't think it's in anyone's interest for it to happen.

It's basically jerrymannering, you're pushing all the liberals. Well, it's like trying to make up for a mistake they made in the first place, which was just like getting this huge piece of land from Mexico, but also the end, which is like I'm like, just give it back to Mexican. But the original Calax it was packaged as kind of like it was packaged to liberals, and I was gulli because they were like, get ourselves out. They were like, you know, we'll legalize weed, which they did, Like we're,

you know, very democratic state in general. I'm not letting the tech bros get in charge. This was this was it was funded by a guy with Russian ties? Was he actually Russian? I want to remember? And Peter tell Is, did he actually tell lives here, Elon Musk lives here? Stephen Miller group, right, but like white supremacy, Yeah right, it's hard for me, like I've realized that. So you're

talking about this on I guess. It was a Molly Sleazy Friends reunion episode of North Mollywood where we talked about land Runner Runner h and I was like saying that the scary thing about the Blade Runner reboot was that it was like very white, and everybody was like, well, it takes place in l A. And I was like, oh,

well that's the super dystopian future. Is like that these white supremacists like want for l A to be that, you know where they see it and they just see land, you know, which is just colonialism, is just being like, Hey, this thing where all this stuff exists is a blank slate and I can't wait to put my stuff here because the other thing that happens in the New Blood Runner is that San Diego is just the landfill for Yeah,

but that's funny. Yeah, yeah, But you were like, you're thinking about this more than the people who made Blade Runner thought about it. They're stupid people. Maybe you need to do another Blood Runner. Blob the Inhaler get high and you have to watch a Blade Runner. Wait, you guys, did we just make a spin off that we're actually going to do out there? Well? Speaking of franchises, oh man, let's hear first about what is happening with Star Wars.

What happened? Oh man, I can't believe y'all had not heard about this. There's so much happening all the time. I'm like allergic to Star Wars, you guys, so to dovetail from in cells as these people, a group of Star Wars fans quote unquote who are very mad at the new Star World star selves. There's cell of it, yes, and they are really mad for reasons that they typically articulate as, oh, you're ruining the legacy of Star Wars, which,

by the way, three super boring movies. Star Wars movies are the boring ist um and what you know, it's sort of like like what we're talking about in politics. It's like they use the language of a little bit of film criticism, a little bit of like sort of protecting nostalgia, a little bit of like, you know, keep keep Star Wars great or whatever. I've been on film Twitter. Yeah, but the underlying message is we don't like change and

we don't like diversity. So that's why they're extra mad at the new Diversity and change are ruining the movies. But like, did they like the second three that nobody liked? Did they like Anakin? I assume those movies were pretty boring, and what maybe they just think it's getting worse and worse with each iteration. I think the new ones knew these the current iteration. I think there's a revisionist history

about how much they like the prequels. And the other thing that they really hone in on is the fact that the head of Lucasfilm post Disney acquisition is a woman, um who has produced a lot of really good, big movies. Yeah, well she's a woman. Critically is the thing that they're most matas. So do they know that a woman is in charge of the James Bond movies? Also, like, don't tell them Molly, those movies are bad too. I was

never a Star Wars person. Emily Yoshida, are resident Star Wars fan is not here today, but she'll come back to tell us about why Star Wars is good and we're wrong. Uh, Star Wars is fine. But here's the thing with Star Wars is the best Star Wars movie is whatever the last one you saw? Yeah, I don't know, Okay. I have seen the first hours a lot of times and always like this is boring. I don't care. And then I finally watched the second two and I was like, oh,

these are good. Second one, Yeah, sure, they're They're just fine. They're great. Empire stricks Back is a good movie. I'm but I'm also like, I'm such a non traditional list that I like the Eoks, you know, yea true Star Wars fans. I think I thought theos were an abomination. No, but see that's the thing. It's like, so there's this group of white guys who are like the gatekeepers, who are you know, the same people you see at a

working at a comic bookstore or a guitar store. I think I just always assume some of these people, like I. It's like that really good First Black Mirror episode about Star Trek. Oh, yeah, you know what I mean. Like, if someone's an introvert who likes comic books like I don't assume they're like secretly like a homicidal, like misogynist maniac. But it turns out a lot of them are. Like I just was like, well, look, they're allowed to have their opinions, but what are they doing. No, they're not

allowed to have their opinions. They're not allowed they're trying to remake Star Wars. So these so these guys have basically been throwing a hissy fit since the new J. J. Abrams one came out. What is I don't remember what it's called. Um, you know, they and The Last Jedi they like among you know, they always have campaigns. They

harass Kelly Murray tran off of Yea. They always point to the fact that the Run Tomatoes film score is way lower than the critics score, right, because they like because they stuff the ballots and like, for what it's worth, what's the other one like Metacritic or one of those does one based on polling, random sampling as opposed to people will go and guess what? Most people love The

Last Jedi because it's great, right, because it's for fucking children. Yeah, but also it's for it's diverse and it's for everyone. I will just say, molly like using the terminology which real Star Wars fans plays into their rhetoric, which is that these white misogyn nerds are the ones who are the real fans of a multibillion dollar franchise, Like guess what, right, Not just you guys, Yeah, you're You're not the only person who likes Zeppelin, the smallest part of this pie,

but the loudest. That's what I'm like. I'm like, why do we pander to these people by giving them any airtime at all? And it's like because they're so loud. Why does anyone let anyone right about white white in cults should like redistribute sex or like because with like the aim and Bundy people, it's because they're like dangerous white men who I'm just like, I can you know, well, we can't correct like mass shootings because we refuse to acknowledge that problem. So that's why we have to give

their argument creative. I have to make them afraid of us. But you also you have you have to understand, you know, you have to like let the message seep in enough so that you can rebut it you can't be ignored about it is I was using scarecrows around the Yeah, we have to let them merit out. It's because like the media like New York Times needs to give in cells a bunch of columnentches to make their point. But shouldn't we live in a misogynist, sexist or racist society

that makes these people entitled? I wouldn't be thinking about like what if you could write that op ed though, we're like, hey, I've got an idea, like let's just cut everyone's dicks off, you know, Like that to me is just the same of an idea. It's like, hey, it's crazy. I know we haven't thought about it before, but like, dicks make a lot of problems in this world,

and what if we just cut them all off? Well, I think in particular the context that the and this is again we're like hop hopping and skipping around the topics. But I think when you are a woman or a person of color and you see a lot of terrifying signals, and then somebody writes in the New York Times like, hey, it's not that crazy to talk about redistributing sex and also one thing, sex robots and sex workers into this same paragraph, as though they are the same. I mean

that it's a it's a terrifying thing. I mean, so when you when you start thinking about, like, let's cut their dicks off, it would seem preposterous because there haven't been all of these incremental, you know, losses of dignity

and really terrifying laws being proposed that target people with dicks. Well, speaking of targeting people with dicks, one of the Star Wars people wrote this manifesto about Why the Last Jedi, and there's a line in it about how one of the problems with it is that it denigrates masculinity somehow, which is like, oh, you're supposed to say the quiet parts like a little baby bitch boy who knows it

doesn't matter. I mean, basically, I think it's because like the idea that a woman could be a Jedi is very upset because that is so weird to me. Because the whole thing about Star Wars is that you have Princess Leiah who is like essentially a Jedi, you know, like, and they hadnal apartment, had a sword and stuff. Like the whole thing about those movies that makes them more tolerable to me than like other boring dude things is like that there's a woman in them, and that the

woman is Carrie Fisher. You know that they could have cast like a hot chick who doesn't say anything the whole time, and instead it's like Carrie Fisher and like she and Harrison Ford have great sexual tension, and like that's what makes those movies good. Like the Disney Machine idea of like we're just going to pump out a million Star Wars and like they'll all make money forever has like the fact that like Solo did not do well for them and that nobody was like okay, like

let's just stop forever. Like that's what those people ostensibly wanted, was a movie about how cool it is to be hand solo. And like, by the way, manifesto was like one phone screen. It's okay, they're not. It's a it's meant to look I assume like a Star Wars crawl. Right, it's too long, but not as long as you'd be scared. Here's what I was going to say, too, is like when I kept seeing stuff about the Star Wars remake because people are making fun of it online, including Ryan Johnson,

who right, so this is choose everything. I mean sort of they're the same people. But those people wanted to remake the Last Jedi there like this movie, Stuch, We're going to make a better movie. Give the money to us, the fans. So here's their pitch. They claim they have an investor who's willing to match funds, a producer who's

willing to match the funds of what people donate. They will give the money and the script to Lucasfilm on the condition that they make this movie or they'll remake it themselves, but just get so many donations, they'll buy the rights to Star Wars like it is hilariously it's so threatening and like such a little hazy face. Well right, it's so funny that they're not like it's like make your own movie. You have to make a fucking space movie, nobody,

but I'll stop you. They're also taking donations, but not like in a way that it is. They're basically taking a pledge and an email address, so it's like a Jill Stein. Yes, but they're not taking real money and not verifying it so you can just go in and say there's a cap, but you can you want your name to the list of people that want this and

say I'll give you. And then Ryan Johnson was like, great ideas come in No, but it's like it's like one of the points in the remake thing is like write it with a committee like a writer's room of fans and hated the Last Jedi. It's all this stuff, and then that's how great movies are made. That is how movies are made. That's what it's funny, Like how

many movies are just like a committee of people. It is, how like it is like those movies all have like twenty people writing, but it's always amateur fans and those are bigger. Exactly what if those fourteen people were Twitter like maniacs, whould literally do not understand. They're mad that Luke Skywalker and the new one isn't like the big tough boy that they really want, And Luke Skyworker was never he was always the number one soft boy. That was the whole thing about him is that he was

kind of boring. And then Princess Leah and Han Solo are cool and you're like, he's that little hid that you're letting kick around, and then like uh Anakin or like baby Anakin was like cool Luke Skywalker and they hated that too. Yeah, you know, I mean it's very unclear. But the thing that is hilarious is in the threat after these guys announced this thing. It's just like people pitching ideas and the account going in and being like

you have of course. That's It's a little bit like that Key and Peel sketch where the guys in the coked up writer's room for Gremlin's two and green lighting everything that gets pitched. But it's on Twitter about misogynists pitching ideas about why Carrie Fisher shouldn't have a big moment and why Ray shouldn't exist and why Calumrie trans I mean, don't they dare come for Carrie Fisher. But also it's like what is their pitch They're going to remake it with the c G I carry Fisher or files.

They're gonna just like make her c G I and then like someone will come up and kick her in the stomach and they'll be like, hooray, we fixed Star Wars. Without being like to Hollywood elitists though too, it's also like, guys, the proposition that you think you can produce any movie at all, Like I would love to watch the documentary of this. Yeah it is, Yeah, it's like American movie. Obviously.

The thing to do is we like we become the ghost producer and then we're like, this was like something that maybe really happened also where somebody sent a bunch of people to an island to make a fake movie as like a tax loophole, but anyway, we send them all to an island where the monsters live, and then it's a little well problem solved. Who's a German guy who makes all those like fake like literal tax right off movies just like adaptations of video games. It's like that.

But for Star Wars, it's just it's just like we're joking about it. It's literally a matter of time before one of these people does something violent, so for Star Wars, but Star Wars spreads a message of peace across the universe. No it doesn't. It's called Star Wars. Yeah, that's what I'm saying, though it's not like Triumph of the Will, Like it's a movie about a bunch of like it is. Is that a cool black guy and Likenster? I know,

but like how can it? That's not that's what the postmodern Nazis think, which I am like, note that's not true. We're at a different point, like the guy from Depeche Mode being like, no, my music is like not for fascists, it's like anti fascist, and you can't call it the music of the alt right because like, fuck you, I made it. Like can't George Lucas just be like fuck

these these little kiddies. Well, but he I think, is a little bit like he's on their side because he sold the property on their side, but he's getting his ego stroke by them because they're all because they're like, you were so much better than the people now gone downhill and so he's so stupid. Ryan Johnson is like the best thing that's ever happened to that franchise. Uh, that's so weird. Well, here's what I thought it was about in a in a more naive and gentle manner.

I thought it was like those people who remade a Last Crusade, you know about that. They were like people. No, it was like kids in Boston. It was like a thing I heard tale of in Providence because they would like show it. They were showing it for the first time or something. But it was like a documentary if there's somebody made a documentary about it. But it was like these three kids, like I think they were like brothers or something, and they like remade Last Crusade. Okay

that they remade Last Crusade, not Last Crusade. Uh yeah, the last art. They remade Raiders of the Lost Arc over a period of like ten years. Oh that sounds great. It was. It was great, And they remade it with like props from home, so they made like they just did all the effects with like practical home effects that like a twelve year old would have. And it's the greatest thing best Star Wars. It's the best. No, it's great,

and that's totally what I thought this was. And I was like, oh cool, a bunch of kids are going to remake Star Wars with like, No, that's not what this saves at all. I think it's safe to say if you read about Star Wars ever for present going forward, it's going to have some misogynist attached. That's so weird because again, like Carrie Fisher being the part of that franchise just to me always was like the thing that stopped it from being the worst, the worst nerd thing.

But that was a little bit by accident because they treated her like a piece of meat. But again, she still got like jokes, she still got to like shoot a gun sometimes, you know, like she wasn't just she wasn't just a prize. She engaged intellectually, and like I've read about us, then she was a babe, but she was like a funny babe, which like she didn't have to be to be in that movie, and that's what make that makes those movies good at all. Guys, I hate to do this to you, but we have to.

We have to talk about the bug dick energy the summer. We have to um, we touched on B movie last time. We were talking about the movie a lot, and that's what we're talking about the B being back in town. We need to talk about the good and bad bugs because it's summer. It's summer summers when the bugs inad bugs are so we got an email and it says high night call, High night call. For some reason, bugs

in Japan are huge. The Japanese giant hornet can be four and a half centimeters long with a six centimeter wingspan, and the Japanese centipede can be the length and width of your arm, which is fucking terrifying. Both are extremely poisonous. No, thank you. You also have giant rhinoceros and stag beetles that I remember seeing kids play with play battle within the park like a slow, death free and cute version of dog fighting. I wonder why they got so big

in Japan. And there's a bunch of videos of these ginormous bugs. How cool is that? Thanks for being a very chill podcast I can listen to without getting anxiety from opinions being shared. This comes from from Ji Hunt. Yes, thanks you, thank you. So I have to say that I looked up there's a website called tofugu dot com and they have a post about the worst Japanese bugs. But I might argue that some of these are the

best Japanese bugs. Um the danky mushy. The electric bug is like really insane looking caterpillar with spiky green protrusions and it stings with a chemical that feels like an electric shock. We're gonna have to ask Emily because she is just getting back from because cool bugs. She posted a video These aren't bugs with their bug adjacent She posted like a forest just like with crabs in it. No, because it was raining so much that they thought it was the ocean and they were so cute. It was

the coolest thing I've ever seen. It was like this incredible, like super green place. And then just the crustaceans are very closely from that. They also have There are two centif bugs in this list. The house centipede is good because it eats the other bugs. But there's a Japanese giant centipede that is fifteen inches long. It's the symbol of evil and Japanese mythology and has like a bite that will send you to the hospital. And then there's

a Japanese the Japanese giant hornet. And I'm just gonna quote not only are these things huge, but they will also spray you in the eyes with a flesh melting poison if you catch them on a bad day. Oh did I mention? This poison is filled with pheromones that signal the rest of the hive to hunt you down and sting the living crap out of you until you can no longer move your limbs. That's supposed to feel like getting shot if you get I think so. Yes.

They also say right afterwards that they wished guns were legal in Japan so they could shoot it. I chose not to read that because you should respect your insect overboard, I know, well that's I do respect them. Tess has always known a lot about bugs, and like a cool bug lady, she doesn't like to lead with it. Although I feel like you're more talking about it these days, I'm easing my way out. She knows a lot about bugs. Um do you guys have favorite or at least favorite bugs? Um? Well,

I got taken. Mine was going to be crabs. They're not. Are they technically bugs? Neither? A spiders call spiders bugs? Is bugs a hundred percent coincident with insects, because I would argue, you could argue that bugs are sex and spiders are under the bugs. Insects spiders, and of course the bugs funny are under the bugs. On bro. It was like when you call a group of people guys. Yeah, yeah,

guys are bugs. I respect all the bugs. I particularly am fond of bees, bees, bees, the scorpions that hold their close up like what's up? Yeah? Yeah, why are you so into Arthur? Look, Andrew knows about crab last night? From where from his home? Yeah? Andrew cooks crab like a hundred times a week. Wait are you serious? Yeah?

He mentioned this. I forget when we were talking about it, but he talked about like, you know, when you have all that crab stock and your phrasing freezer picture looks so a crab for lunch every day, busting out, what do you do with the crabs that you cook? Like? What right in the pot? So you do? Like do you do like Southern style boil? Or like what do you what are you throwing in? Just steam in there

and then headed with black vinegar. And I actually just had it with nothing, but I also had a bunch of duck fats sitting around. So I made a duck fat use butter Andrew, why can't we work word this in your garage? Yeah? And it smells like crab. It's pretty it's pretty gross. I just went to the boiling Crab the other day. Do you go to the restaurant, Yeah, that's the sucker move. No, no, no, the one in Burbank is totally empty. Okay, get it together. Here's the

pro tem for Kaytown. Yeah, you can get it to go. But there's a bar that you say that that will let you bring your to go nasty ass crabs. They're um, yeah, the one, the one in Kaytown. We would go to and then sit at the bar. But if your if you have children, um, many children will not I'm finding but one of mine will soft to go to the

first naughty crab. You go before they open it, and then you're the first person to sit down and you're waiting on by like a sixteen year old, and I was, I said, the most disconcerting thing is like it immediately brings me back to being a waiter and looking at a group of people like me and my family being like, oh no, they're gonna need so many napkins. They're just gonna be loud. Town boiling crabs so many times last year that they remembered my order one time and I

was like, I need to stop. What do you get? Why? I'll go with a bunch of Chinese people. So it's dungeness crabs, shrimp and um the clams and Manila clams, and then the sausage and then rice for everyone because they have good like Korean rice. They're weirdly. Really, what you do is you make a little rice bowl rif ball in your hand with all the seafood you want, jam the whole thing in your mouth. What do you

get a sauce on it? Or just like you order at the boiling I do the crawfish and the snow crab, and I do why do the crawfish. I'm gonna throw this to you guys. Would you eat bugs? Well, that's what I think of. We're all dancing around here like a bunch of dancing shromp. I would eat crickets, except for the fact that I'm very superstitious about crickets, and even though I eat meat, I have trouble like picturing

eating a like eating the head and body. No, but it's weird because like craw fish, you really come face to face with that, you know what I mean? And maybe with crabs and lobsters too, you're really aware of Like I'm eating a sea bug. Well, I stopped eating octopus because I just reasulation too much about Yeah, they found out that in nineteen sixty four. I think that cockroaches learn from their mistakes. That's what I'm saying. Like, I respect the bugs because I fear the bugs. Yeah,

we should fears. I think there's something scary about like a million of something small that is really disconcerting to think that. I used to play a space video am where you could build like like your space army or spaceships or whatever, and the key was actually just to make you know everyone's building these big cruisers or whatever.

It was actually just to get like fifteen thousand of the smallest one and have a huge cloud face off against You can't kill it, because maybe we have to get the bugs to go against the in cells because they're all just a bunch of tiny in cells versus insects. And we can crowdfund this movie, you guys. Oh you know what, Actually, I don't even know if I want to give this strategy away, but a friend of mine,

it's basically bio terrorism, is what I'm saying. Before you say they can't take it trademark, but also disclaimer that we're not really doing this. Um A friend of mine telling me about these ants. I think they're called I want to say they're called raspberry ants, but maybe I made that up. The eat like computer cords what? Yeah, yeah, why because they just do because they're just good ants

and they're like the worker ants. They want to be off the grid and they want to be off the good they're like, you know, because bugs and computers are named for like literal bugs that would get in computers. But it really just makes you makes you think about how a computer programmer when the punch card days. Yeah, the idea that bugs could like completely funk us up technologically is something that I find like just so alluring because I'm like, you know, that's where we get in

thinking we're better than bugs. Yeah, bugs and bots like the bugs were here before us and they'll hereafter. That's why cockroaches like I I don't know. I think it's also interesting to like dissect why I'm grossed out by bugs. But not other things. You know, like it's because they're scary and they're threatening, but it's like we're conditioned to be scared of them. But like, why do I think like a tiger is cute? You know, it's because of bigger Why is like a butterfly beautiful but a moth

is creepy? I still like, well, I love moths, yeah, but butterflies have it are dusty, but do not. It's just a color palet collar to the nightcall question. If there was a question, it's because Jef hands in island. Oh, you're right there, you go. Islands always have the gnarliest evolution, like Madagascar. How it has all of these uniques. Madagascar has also some fucking super sick Yeah. Well, Andrew, thank

you so much for having stopping the problems. Let's just go around and say our top, our top and least top bug. Okay, dungeoness crab is top and least top would be the common mosquito, common mosquito, deadliest insect. I'm going to say that my least favorite is the tick, and my most favorite is the lunum off. I'm gonna say my favorite since I already said bees, I've been really into silkworms recently reading about silkworms. They're super cool

and fascinating. You know, my friends getting to be hiven. My neighbors have some bees. These are cool. Go respect what's your least oh my least favorite? Uh? I don't know. I don't want to like hate on ants because I respect them, but like, man, I've seen my kitchen ants. I've seen my peacefulness turned to blood lust with the

ants because you're like, it's me versus them. Well, if you have thoughts on bugs or anything else, feel free to give us a call or a text at two four oh four six night or you can email us at Nightcall Podcast at gmail dot com. You can also follow us on Twitter at Nightcall Pod, or on Instagram and Facebook at Nightcall Podcast And if you're enjoying the podcast, please leave us a review rate, subscribe wherever you listen

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