AlienCon and What is a Butt?

with me in Los Angeles is Tess Lynch. And over in New York we have Emily Oshda Old New York, Old New York, New York, Old New York as opposed to uh neo Tokyo or Tokyo three or we were in the middle of an argument that I feel like we should just like organically let continue, because Molly made us watch an American experience documentary on PBS like a goddamn social studies teacher in sixth grade, and uh we are are now debating the value of set assign Guys, guys.

I was dreading watching. I can't express why. I was like, Molly was like, we have to watch this PBS documentary from narrated by Oliver Back. I can't give it together enough on the Gilded Age and Emily and I think asked why and Molly didn't really provide an answer, but this did that we had to do I thought it was interesting. She thought it was interesting. She had been tweeting about it. I like all the PBS American Experienced documentaries.

I think they're the best documentary series. There's one about Walt Disney and how they're good company. They're very good. Some might say a little sleepy, a lot sleepy. I mean it is that form. It is that like, uh, you know, silent era footage of New York City with sound effects. Put on a clip club and he went where he could gallop, and Carnegie was galloping his horse along the river, and it's like forty five minutes galloping horse. Please you how they said his name every time the

historians the talking head said Carnegie. No, they also said car No. They did not because I was like, I am not going to go on the podcast and say Carnegie. If everyone here's guys are coming down so hard on the Gilded Age, I do not argue with the premise that which I think was your intention in having us watch this documentary, that we are living in the new Guilded Age or a new Gilded Age, that is very apparent.

I think, like you know, we talked a little while ago about going to Hudson Yards, and just the boom in ultra luxury construction for not even the one percent, like the point one percent that's in New York City. I think New York City you tend to see that on the street. Uh. And also you're like walking in streets and by buildings that were built during the original guilded age, So you have that added element of history that you're kind of just like taking in all the time,

just ambiently. So I don't disagree, like I think, I think it's important to think about these parallels um and and well American experience. They sure do convey information. If anything, they're good at conveying information on an American experienced documentary. I think this also came out of that I was tweeting about how I recorded a drunk history that didn't go to air because I was so interested in the boring ins and outs of details of the history itself.

What was the drunk history that you did? It was Tammany Hall and Boss tweet tell them what you drank? Uh, Nicki Minaj's Muscado, There we go and then you fum at the end of what Molly drank. Everybody was like, why are you doing drunk history? Like you don't drink. That was a response I got from everybody I told I was doing it. I was like, good, good call.

I guess we'll see. And then I tried to drink train a little bit like leading up to it, but having like a beer at night, because I don't usually drink very much. Just it's not for Yeah, it's not for me. But yes, So I didn't know that muscato didn't have like any alcohol in it. So, but you drank mostly that the whole bottle. Yeah, I drank the bottle of moscato. And then I drank like a like a tumbler of whiskey. Yeah, tumbling and then and then

a tequila shot. Am I wrong? Maybe? And then I was just like, now I have to just not throw upon myself. But I learned something about myself, which is like my desire to be on television was not as great as my desire to not throw up on myself on television, you know, because I was like, I don't want to be that person in the commercial reel that's just vomiting. I think that is the real difficulty of doing drunk history. I love doing favorite, I love it. I love to do it, but it's but I have

never not been afraid of throwing up. But I also you know, the first time I did it, I was a little bit more Devil may Care in my drinking, and then in subsequent turns, I was like, Okay, I know what I can drink and the my limits, and they have you know, medical staff there, which is nice. Do you also like the sort of Lisa Simpson nous of like being given a history lesson that you have to learn? Oh? I love it? Okay, So I love it so much. Bring that to the Gilded Age. Okay,

here's my thing about the Gilded Age. So I will just say right off the bat, I tried three different times to finish this documentary can fail, but I did get pretty deep into it. But I like how none of us got to the part where then they figure out how to fight back, and like it becomes the progressive era, right I got. I got through Henry George running for what Henry George? What a cool guy who

doesn't know? Okay, Well, the thing I liked about the Skillad Age documentary was it was like the beginning of a club. Because I also liked the clip clop. I believe just that it was like about the the Industrial Age being the beginning of like the partnership between uh politics and industry of like businesses buying off politicians, and it's like, oh, this is something that like the history of it isn't even that old actually, you know, and like people already got super mad about it once and

forced it to be reformed. Um, but it just seemed so much like tech tech stuff. It was so much like the yea, some idiot like you know, put his money in an old timey bitcoin and like became a billionaire.

And then everybody y else put their money an old timey bitcoin and went broke, and they were like, oh, you must not have wanted it badly enough, right, I mean, I think I think there are a couple of interesting things that I remember from the first part of it, which was like going into Andrew Carnegie's origin and how he really did come from nothing in Scotland, was poor and you know, just had a you know, good at business acumen and noticed that people were going to be

needing steel a lot in the next century and so got into that business, which is like fine and was literally a self made man. But the degree to which that became the story that everybody else wanted to tell about themselves, regardless of whether or not that was their actual story. I think that created this like kind of

toxic or myth of like American capitalism. Yes, it's like the toxic individualism, which is like each person is a business that will like learn to succeed and to stop you from if you don't succeed, it's just that you

didn't have the will right well. And also, like I think the other interesting thing that was noted by somebody on there is that this is a time when the ratio of people who were employees, like people who just depended on other people for an income, became so huge, like you know, per capita um in a way that had never been before, and we just kind of take for granted now that's how everybody, like everybody's an employee mostly um, unless they're a freelancer. But I really liked

that article. Is the article from the All that somebody put in my timeline about Pixar movies being in a theory of labor about Pixar movies. Oh, I saw that, I mean the All. It's it's interesting how often made me miss the All this year. I feel like I've come across. UM so many things from the All that have been so timely. I miss the All more than any other website. But yeah, I was kind of about like how Pixar movies are all about like getting a job,

keeping that job. Um, and you have Pixar movies, right, Yeah, your job is zero identity. And in the case of a bad Bird movie, uh, you're the best and nobody else can do it and you and you're the best, then you deserve everything. You become the uber rat, yeah, the uber Um. While we're on the subject of animation, I'm gonna let you guys free of the Gilded Age. You're free, We're not free of the Gilded Age? Is

the act? Like you had more to say, I'm not free. Yeah, but I'm gonna loop back just really quickly to say that I found an article refuting that we can say that we are uniquely in a second Gilded Age. It was on Fox. Um, but they you know, the no Fox but please, I'm not that guy. But people have been calling the current time Fox recognized their union. Oh god, please, I know, I know, I mean that's the other Maybe that's why they're like, it's at a gilded age. Everything's fine.

They did, they did recognize the union. The now BuzzFeed yeah, buzz oh my god, buzzed. And I think it is funny to be like, I feel like we've all done jokes about being like coal miners and steel workers, but it is like we are the steel workers in what about Come get my my printed out notes. But the junk bonds of the eighties, the internet bubbles of the nineties, the collateralized debt obligation addies to the top one percent tens,

It's like there is we've always we've always been. You can't say that like right now where you were more uniquely in a gilded age. I think the stratification of wealth is the one thing that's There's always been some kind of bubble going on in any given decade, something that is gilded in either economically or culturally or something else.

But I think I think that the thing that makes now feel particularly analogous to the Gilded Age is the well, the disparity in in wealth, like the extremes, Like we're not talking about mirrors, mirrors any there's no middle class. Yeah, right, But I agree that maybe the idea that like I just I felt like a lot of the American ideals were established in the Gilded Age that are all bad

things we should stop doing. I totally no disagreement there, but I mean I also think of like American Sitco and Bonfire, the vanities like New York in the eighties as being like Prime. You point out, yeah, Wall Street, which I've never seen done, You're done and done. Okay, now, well now we can let go of this. Well, on the subject of animation, I just wanted to briefly do a Emily's Anime podcast. Uh. Yeah, Well, I have bad news for everybody, which is that I haven't acted well.

I watched fifteen minutes of the new Netflix um HD remaster of Neon Genesis Evan Galion, which came out on Friday, the twenty one of June. I was excited. I was already in the middle of a rewatch of it, so I was like, oh, I'll just continue watching it on Netflix, which I love. Then uh, like fill in the blank, crappy illegal anime stream site that I have been using. But then I started to see just some rumblings online from people who I guess like bravely forged through and

binged it. Within twenty four hours of it being on Netflix, because this was all happening like that Friday. UM, just about some of the stuff that they did to the storyline and some of the characters and some of the questionable re translations because it was so they did a new dub, which is fine. I don't care. I don't watch the dub. I know that. Like people like the original dub of of um neon Genes Galian, and I am not one of those people who have really watched

it all the way. I mean, I've watched a little bit of It's fine. I really love the voice actors in the Japanese one, so I prefer that. Uh it So people didn't like the new dub. That didn't affect me. I was going to watch it anyway. But then I

think a lot of this translation. Um, I think there are parts where they did try to make it more natural, but then there are parts where they like, I don't know, I tried to eliminate some gay subtext with some characters and other little things that seems sort of unnecessary and weird and questionable. So I was just like, I'm just gonna keep watching it on my sheep streaming site. So um, that is but then I said that I tweeted that, and then like people were DM me me, like send

me the link, like what do you watch? Um? But I'm always happy to introduce people to that show because it's it's again, it's like the Guild and Age. It's something that makes you think a lot about now uh and get real depressed. So yeah, all right. I saw one tweet I really liked that was somebody doing a joke about Hank Hill from King of the Hill pronouncing

Neon Genesis seven gallion and over again. Well. Also, the other main like the imprinted made on American culture was in the movie One Hour Photo with Robin Williams where he like stopped some kid and the toy aisle who's buying an even Gillian like action figure um and says, oh wow, Neon Genesis see Van Gillion. I remember that because that movie is awesome photos in theaters. I have

seen it twice since what if. I don't think I could ever watch it again, but it's a very disturbing movie, so of course I right, yeah, I mean, and also like scary Robin Williams, I forced other people to watch that movie. And then I'm always kind of shamed for it, but I feel it's a very It's an intense movie. I got to see the intense movies. Speaking of which Molly and I will be seeing an intense movie this evening to report on next week. Midstem so excited. UM

yeh as the sweet say. The bone spikes guys that we talked about last weeks important updates. So in the days following the initial reporting on the spikes that were growing at the back of our skulls because we look at our phones too much that was reported, we cited the BBC article I think the New York Times and others I think, including Gizmoto, uh interviewed some people, some

doctors who cast some doubt on the original study. UM. When the New York Times weighed in, they said that the they interviewed a doctor who said that his issues with the study were that, UM, the people who had the bone spikes who were being kind of studied, were already complaining of neck pain. There was no control group. It wasn't like they were contrasting people who were using their phones a lot to people who weren't. It was

like a totally is not a scientifically sound study. And also the way that it was framed as like we're growing scary spikes on our heads is not really what's going on. So guys are so chill about this. I'm chill about it. And you know, initially I was like, so what now we're getting you know, our bodies are adapting. Also, they've been standing to anything we've ever done as humans where we're looking down, like if we're doing needle point,

we're probably exactly you know, like that. You guys are like, oh, it's a it's a knitter's hump. It's fine. No, it's not fine. I mean before that it would have been like a wheat would thrashing. Uh, better ways to get a next spike? Been looking at your phone, You're just looking down. It's a looking down. It's not coming at you from like, it's not like you're getting it's not like it's growing because of like radiation from your phone or something like brain cancer from your phone is a

more of a concern, I would say than the bones. Well, there's a lot of things about that at the UFO conference. Really, I'm so excited to talk about that. Boy well, I mean yeah, liz La Pato, my former co host at virgsp who's the science editor at The Verge. She was tweeting about this. Also just like you know, this is

not a new phenomenon. This is like a thing that people have known about, except now they can also correlate it to phone you supposedly, but also as you say, like the study was not the most thorough thing in

the world, this is also the thing. This is what I'm talking about with Life Science, like and I guess it's sort of ironic that the sources this time are like the BBC and UH and Washington Post and stuff like that, like the people who reported on it, but but looking at a study and not being able to look at it critically, not saying that I could. I'm not that kind of reporter, but a lot of people don't when they report these freaky sounding studies. That's why

Life Science is the only outlet we trust here. And I hey, speaking of Live Science, you guys, we got a really good Live Science tidbit, which is the seaworm with butt eyes. So our favorite factually sound website, Live Science reported on a new species of seaworm discovered off the coast of Scotland this month, and it has eyes on it's but its name is the amphory. Give me a minute. Oculus Oculus serrata. It's about as wide as

a pencil eraser. It has tentacles by its mouth, as many seaworms do, but unlike other seaworms, it has eyes on its butt. I think like the worm of the shirt. That's like, my eyes are down here, I hope, so nice one. It's transparent looking. Also, it's cute. It's I don't know if cute's the word I would use. Well, it's also like what same interesting? I was gonna say, what qualifies a butt? But that I thought about it for like one second. You know what qualifies? But the

things that worm has seen? Well, we should take a night call because we've had one for a couple of weeks that we wanted to be able to spend some time talking about. So let's bring it up. So I've heard that some scientists have made mechanical and digital basically probability machines that measure just the randomness generated in an area, and have found that in certain areas the probability actually

changes um things become less random. So I listened to a podcast once that talked about how the on a wavelength function. The possibility of something quantum tunneling to be pretty much measured, and it isn't just from the micro scale or quantum scale, but theoretically scales up to the macro scale human sized. So I've always had a a conspiracy theory related to the disappearances that they've seen at

national parks. I always wondered if there was some possibility that the probability of randomness and these these parks are a little bit more possible and as a result, people are accidentally quantum tunneling into parallel universes or you know, just uttered fee underground. Given that there's a possibility for it, it's a non zero sum. That means theoretically it can happen, not super lately, but non a non zero amount. So I just want to see what you guys thought about that.

Look forward to hearing more from your podcast. Thank you. Let's just call it quantum leap mm hm, well, thank you very much for that call. Uh really gave us something to think about and do our own research on um. I did not know about these disappearances, but there have been something like one thousand, one hundred in let me look at I had that there's an article at Vice from seventeen that sites the Outside magazine for a sixteen hundred Yeah, sixteen hundred within the history of the parks.

It's complicated, but there have been let's say, like over a thousand disappearances on national park lands. But it becomes more complicated because there is a conspiracy theorist who is collecting some data that is then being used. So right, yeah, yeah, I think that his is it David Paulides, Yes, it is. Okay, So I had no idea about this um. I think that there was a there's a How Stuff Works article about this um. But the quantum, the quantum randomness thing

is interesting. I mean, I don't know that much about like how quantum randomness works, but I would I would think it would be sort of interesting to think about that being more likely in a place like, uh a national park that's been preserved that, you know, where there is not as much human activity. I'll tell you what I like about this theory. First of all, I don't believe in it. Sure, I want to say that, Yeah, I don't believe in it. I think people disappear in

national parks because they're so big. People disappear in Angela's forest near me all the time because it's a giant. I mean, it's also amazing and awesome that there are places that are like that you can disappear so yeah yeah, um, and that they're so close to you know, other things. But I like this theory because it is like a picnic at hanging rock theory. Well, I like the idea.

It feels very twin peaks to be like suddenly like wink your underground, like um, you're just and you're there, and it's like just a clean jump down to this other reality. Yeah, this is it's weird because so it is a popular conspiracy theory as far as I can tell in this very niche circle. David Paulites fans. I mean, well, first of all, when we got this call, we intended to answer it last week. But I think quantum randomness

it breaks my brain. And I'm sure that that's not a totally uncommon feeling when you're trying to understand quantum physics a lot of really advanced science. It's interating, yes, but it's also like some of it sounds so insane that you're like, how is that Reality's that's what's so cool?

I mean it's when you start thinking about quantum randomness as having to do with sub atomic particles, all of a sudden, your your brain kind of walks out the door, you know, and doesn't want to hear anymore about that. Brands want to hear more. We someone who really understands it to explain it. What if I find a great PBS documentary or you could go to ask a mathematician dot com if you wanted to learn a little bit about it, like a Brian greenbook or something which I

did and have since lost. Like, but I mean, it's it's hard to retain because you can't apply it to many things. So you come across the articles about that disappearing national parks. The problem with with the quantum mechanics is that it's only like you know, the evidence of it working at anything above that sub potomic level is very small, Like there's not a lot of information about that. So but trying and trying to find the link is right, because if it were real, we would have star trek

holidacks by now exactly. I mean, I think what was interesting about this call and then kind of looking into the theories that go along with it um are there are these people who are like fervently that this you know, there are wormholes in national parks, and I'm very interested in the fact that those people believe this, um, because it's not you know, why not, why not entertain it?

But um, the guy David Polides Um, he writes a series of books called Missing four one one, and he's also he's a crypto zoologist our faith who claims to have an investigative and law enforcement background. But that's hard to verify. Um. But the National Park Service doesn't keep track of people who go missing, and it's something that has been you know, frustrating even to sort of realistic skeptics. Well, hey, yeah, you know what, I just realized it's the twenty year

anniversary of the Blair Witch project today. Just know, in like general, just um, yeah, I feel like that is one of the scariest things. That's the idea that you go in nature and just just get lost on this blog post that I found about Poldes and not this theory in general. Um. He apparently went on Coast to Coast am to talk about this. Um. Of course, I think that when when when would this have been This post is from so sometime around then and uh it says.

In his books and in interviews, Polites Doves gives some possible reasons for the disappearances. On a recent appearance on the radio show Coast to Coast, a AM Police listed some ideas such as sasquatch, large birds, and extra terrestrials, but he also mentioned demons as a possible cause, which goes along with the belief in the Philippines that the gin or demons are responsible for abductions. So there's just a wealth of possibilities here, arranging from quantum randomness to demons.

So whatever your favorite flavor is, well there's that I think it's an Arthur C. Clark quote. That's like any significantly advanced science knowledge magic. That's what it feels like some of that stuff. That's what's so cool about it is you're like, it is, it's just it's magic. And yeah,

maybe it's me. I think that all the time, and I always think about like what right now feel because it always is changing, of course, like what feels like magic versus what feels totally mundane and explainable at this point, like you know, there was a time when iPhones felt like magic and now whatever, they're like sources of stress and uhs of horns, of sources of school horns, and but what what feels what feels magic to you guys

right now? Technology wise, you know, we talked about the star holograms before, and I've generally been against them, but I just saw a flyer for a Dio hologram and I was like, maybe that's fine. Maybe that's hollograms seem retro to me, and they don't see there's nothing futuristic covers ghosts. What's futuristic? You're right, You're right. I don't know.

It's hard. I I feel like now just because of the overwhelming depressive news that it's so relentless, it's really hard to find things that inspire the kind of oh magic, Like I just don't see those things anymore and it's kind of lame. UM I remember, like back in I don't even know twelve or something, UM I got sent as a sponsorship like content to review for grant Land this thing that you plugged like a USB port that would make a bacon smell, and I was like, wow, wow,

how cool? And then there was you know, UM popularized a while ago for a brief moment, the magic berries that you eat and they make things taste different, like those things seem magical, but beyond that, there's not. Right now, I just look around, I'm like, everything's just was it Judge bacon, it was this was a branded bacon USB thing. I wish that there was a USB smells. Yeah, well, I wish there was a thing where you could, um, like transmit smells with like a like a little widget

or something on your phone. Like that's a big casino thing. And I do. I do feel like there's so many opportunities. Yeah, I mean, the whole the response that you get to a smell. I mean maybe what we're missing now is people taking advantage of more kind of tactile or like sensual feelings. Dodger Stadium UM, who are now known as d j DS because Dodger Stadium has a ligitious team. Um,

they made an incense. I didn't know that's why that happened, but yeah, they made they made an incense that's really good. What is it? It smells It's like the it just smells like fresh. It's very Incense is hard because most incense just smells like incense. Yes, you know, no matter that it makes me nostalgic for specific thing. This is like a good it smells very good. I like it.

I think we should. Yeah, if there's any listeners right now who are like super smellers or work in the fragrance industry, I would love to have somebody come on the podcast because I have so many questions. I like, I was waiting in line to pick up a package at the drug store because I pick up packages at a place that does tend things in addition to packages, because that's New York baby, and they also sell like

discount perfumes. So there was like they had all of the old like Justin Bieber Frager fragrances, Like there was a Justin Bieber fragrance called Justin Bieber's girlfriend that from maybe or something. I can't remember. Maybe it was earlier than that, back when magic existed. Yeah, but I'm like, like I always I always think about those celebrity fragrances and like, yeah, casino fragrances, and like what how fragrances mean? I guess should definitely think about what the night call

fragrance would be. Yeah, well somehow we got we got to fragrances from disappearances. I have a segue, which is that there was a perfume at the UFO convention that was supposed to smell like an alien abduction. What it smell like? Well, I didn't smell it, but my friend has bought it because apparently it was. The guy told her that they made one based on people's recollections of what the abduction smelled like, and then when they made the first batch it smelled so bad. I mean you

would imagine it wouldn't smell good. They made a secondary batch. Um, she says it does not. It does not smell good per se, but maybe it is accurate. Is it called o Foh? I'm sorry, I'm so fun today, it's sane. Um. Well, Molly, you went to alien con in Los Angeles this past weekend, which I am so jealous about. Uh. Which is it seems like half science e and then half kind of like freestyle, which is a good I think, a good combo. I was a little worried because when I walked in

I saw that it was some real sponsors. I thought, I hope, I hope this is still a bunch of weirdos, And boy was it. It was all weirdos. Um. It's put on by The History Channel was a big sponsor, and so there were people from Ancient Aliens. I saw a lot of Ancient Aliens programming. I do want to express I do not believe in ancient Aliens because it's so fun. It's like, no, but here's what they're bad.

Here's why the ancient Aliens are bad. Because it's always just like some non Western civilization made some amazing thing and they're like, oh, how did they make the pyramids? We don't know. Therefore Aliens, it's all ancient Egyptian stuff like Mayan temples, literally anything that wasn't made by like Europeans or like Aliens. Only explanation, but that's why it's okay, that's fair. But um, it was a lot of like there was like ancient Aliens themed rock music. Somebody had

an album there. There was a lot of like CBD stuff. Yeah, that was a weird overlap the ven diagram of the the UFOs and the c B D s. Let's CD in the is the incense of Now it's like the Naga Jampa of teens. I think it was like a CBD energy drink. Sure that seems oxymoronic. Maybe it was a sleepy Drink Sleepy Drink, and there were some like y A and fantasy novels for sale, also about aliens, people interacting with aliens. Yeah, that's wait what so what did you see? Like? Did you go to any panels

or anything? Like? I went to the I saw the end of a panel that my friend and was interested in that was about, uh something called Nightcrawler Ranch. It's not Nightcrawler, it's skin Walker skin Walker Ranch site sounds like studio for ye. Well, I don't. I think it's a joke on Skywalker Ranch. But it's a part of Utah that apparently there are a lot of Native American legends about their being skin walkers there. Um. But then it was also a big navy or something site. What

is a skin walker like? I'm sorry, I'm uninitiated into because you may remember you refused to be involved in the X Files fandom with me. I had better things to do during my free period, which obviously known I left for the Juggling Club. A skin walker is a Navajo concept for a type of harmful witch who has the ability to turn into possess or disguise themselves as an animal. Shape shifter, yes, shape shufter it's super cool.

It's like, yeah, and they I think it's usually like it tends to be a coyote, huh, which I like because I feel like coyotes appear at weird times, the idea that coyotes or But then this is wrapped up with alien stuff, I think, because there's also kind of like mysterious government Air Force type stuff in this area. So there's these guys who do something where they like go with ghost machines or something to the area. They were all wearing a lot of Indiana Jones hats um.

But yeah, mostly the action was in the hall. The main the hall where you could see this was at the convention was at the convention center, very strange place. The convention Center strange place, and the arena was only like the thing itself. They had only filled up about happy space with boots, which just great because the last time I went to a convention it was the Anime Convention. Um. I went to the Anime Convention there twice, and the first time it was fun, and the second time it

was like so crowded. It was not fun. It was like impossible to move. And this was like a She'll ask convention, you know, there were some people. There was one woman addresses the three Breasted Alien from Total Recall. Yeah, I saw they had a cause play competition there. Yeah. But there was some just like lowbrow art stuff like you're kind of classic l A garbage art where it's like Illuminati pyramid and Elvis uh and aliens also, um, but yeah, I recommend Alien con. They're going to be

in Dallas this fall. They're doing an Alien con in Dallas. Maybe we should also, like Yeah, they also had like tarot readers you know, and it was just like it was fun. Um. I learned. How seriously did it take itself? I mean I didn't get in any conversations with anybody about it. This is what I would want to know because looking at it, it seemed as though it was a very lighthearted. It was lighthearted. It was like a Hollywood alien convention. It was like also, you know, Star

Trek stuff and Star Wars stuff. There was one really weird thing that I was interested in that seemed like something Emily would love, called the arc. That was like it was just like a like a triangular pyramid, uh kind of thing that you sit in and it just was like ascend and that's it said, did it like a tiny little I don't know, it said experience Coherence. I can't believe it. It's like the it's like a tent with no fabric on it. It's just like the

outline of a tent at Pyramid. Yeah, and you sit in it and it says Discover Vitality. Were they selling something? Yeah, but I don't know what that was. The thing too, is I couldn't figure it out at all. Sounds like the perfect brand activation for it. Didn't know notice for I didn't know what you were supposed to do with it. But it was just like Discover Vitality. Did you see William Shatner there? No, he's like the big celebrity that they were like promoting. There everything you need to know,

I feel like. But yeah, I mean in terms of sci fi conventions, it was very chill. It was like, um, you know, there were kids. It was like a relaxed cosplay atmosphere. That sounds great. Yeah, it was great. So I will definitely go back and we should definitely all go And I got you, guys, something that I will

present you with at the next laptop. Okay, who would suspense? Um, guys, I think that We would be really neglecting our duty as official science reporters if we didn't briefly discuss the fox like cat or cat like fox, depending on what how you're feeling, that was discovered in Corsica. I love this thing. However, you might feel about the butt worm that but high butt worm. I think everyone can agree that the cat fox is the cutest idea. What what is the deal with the cat fox? Exactly? They found

this cat. It's a fox. It's a fox that looks like a cat. It's a fox that looks like a cat, and it has little pointy teeth and a grumpy disposition, they say, And it's a new species. I'm that has mentioned this video right now. It's a new species. It's not just a fox that happened to come out looking like a cat. Yeah, they say it's like an ancient wild cat. Possibly, but it is a here too, four

sixteen of them in Corsica. Yes, Although the first cat foxes were captured in non violently, rangers say secondhand tales of the forest animal have circulated around the island for generations. They're very cute, They're so they're a pikachi. Are they like um? Eves kind of yes, exactly. Wait, can I ask you guys a question real quick? Yeah, what would you shape shift into if you were a shape shifter? What animal? Dang, that's a good one. I I have

to say. I don't know. It's probably a fox, not to be like two on the nose, but like, nothing looks cozier than a fox in hibernation. Like it just seems place to be and like creature to be. Um. Yeah, any hibernating animal seems chill. I'd be a whale, a whale, I'd be a whale. Go on what kind? It's just

any kind of whale. I am dying to be a whale, to be honest, I mean, other than the threat to whales, the idea of experiencing like pretty much the opposite life of my life in a different realm that time, in this sperience, per I'm sure you experienced time differently. You get to live for a super long time. I'd be really bummed if I shape shifted into something like a mayfly and then it was just over for me. I couldn't go back. I died, you know, I just quantum

shape shifting, quantum sting each time. I'd still want to be a whale. I'm very interested in how whales communicate. I like their family structure into it. I don't even think I think it would be like living my life similarly to now, but under the sea. What about you, Molly. I mean, I was going to say red panda, but now I'm thinking about the ocean again. Yeah, you got you open it up and you're like, wait a second, Yep, Yeah,

I have always wanted to live under the sea. Maybe I'll be the butt worm newly discovered newly discovered molly butt worm ancient. So we're gonna take a nightcall. I don't want to be the butt worm, but I do. I do respect all the creatures, including the But that was a quick reversal. Yeah, we got a call about going off of our conversation about alternate housing, so let's

sew it up. So I was listening to you know, recent episode about the free men in the Florida Dome houses, and you should look up the island where I grew up. Sullivan's Island has some crazy houses. Um a guy he built one for himself and I think the other one was for his son or daughter. But they're supposedly Hurricane proof concrete dome houses. They're pretty crazy looking. Everyone calls them the egg houses. Ah, those are cool. And because it's right off of where all the Civil War started

and all that bullshit, and there's sports. There's all like battery hills bunkers sort of that the government sold off so people own them and live in them or were Like there's one that has like a trailer plunked on top, and then this ten thousand square foot and open bunker basically just a hill that is underneath. I don't know

what's going on in all of them. One was a guy who was in a death metal band and gave guitar lessons from it, and I went on a tour with him and it was incredibly scary because it's I didn't know. The guy comes to my bunker sixteen year old girls, makes a very bad decisions. But crazy houses there. It's Sullivan's Island, South Carolina. The island is basically sand dunes. All that stuff is gonna be gone real soon, I'm sure, but check them out. Nice. This is Sullivan's Island in

South Carolina. Um, it's a bummer. That's all these weird goofy architectural experiments. Are all in places that are going to be gone because of global Well, this one should be destroyed. You hated? No, No, it's evil and haunted. It was like the which one. Wait, there are several, but are you talking about the eye of the Storm? Which Sullivan's Island? Are we talking about the one in? Yeah, this is a bad place. It was like the place they brought all the slaves to. Uh. It was described

as like the Ellis Island of slavery. It was like, wait what this one was built in? Yeah, it's like a it's like an egg. It looks like an egg. It looks like what am I talking about? I don't know. Uh, it's just a house. I think there are several, but I think they were built in like the nineties. Yeah, weird, Well that is what Sullivan's Island is originally. Yeah, this so this Sullivan's Island may have like a terrible history. But these houses are dope, I must say, because I'm

looking at one there. Well, I mean, I don't know if i'd want to live in it. And it's and it's very there. I guess like over they're super super super heavy. There's an article CNBC had an article fromen take a look inside Charleston's weirdest mansion. It's five million dollars and it's hurricane proof, which will not help when

it's underwater. Yeah, that's beside the point. I like looked up Sullivan's Island because they went there on Southern Charm that takes place in Charleston, and they portrayed it as like just a beautiful vacation place to hang out. And then I looked it up and found out had all this slavery history that they didn't get into it all on the show. So probably that's a lot of the South.

It is a lot of the South, Um. I mean, I don't know about I don't I don't know about like living in a Civil War bunker like that's that's not I don't know. I don't know if that's a lifestyle I I necessarily would be into. That's not what I want. I have seen. I saw some super weird Civil War I think era forts and stuff in Florida that we're really crazy and weird. Um, But I don't think anybody live in them. They were just in a

national park. The Eye of the Storm has an elevator and a bank vault room and it's like the one that looks like an air traffic Yah. Yeah, it's the one. I don't know. I don't know how to describe it. It looks like a mushroom, kind of like a giant marshmallow. Oh maybe I'm thinking because there's another thing on Sullivan's Island. It looks like an air traffic control tower. Um that

I think must be a lighthouse. Did you guys see that article that was about all the people who built their dream houses, all the boomers who built their dream houses that they can't sell now because they're so giant and expensive and weird. I did read that. Well, I I have like a real bone to pick about mc mansions, as everyone I think many people in l A have, I mean, talk about the Gilded Age. And that was actually like my favorite part of the documentary was how

who was it? A Vanderbilt? And she made her like ostentatious mansion with the sculptures, and I was like, isn't it funny how You're like, wow, I'm being so crazy, and you know everyone will be so offended by the nudity, and it's like maybe people are just defended at how grossly rich you are when everyone else is poor. Maybe

you just have bad taste. Yeah, but it's really I mean, it's it is interesting to see these like weird custom houses that are so gigantic and tailored to one person's particular taste, and it's like, yeah, you can't move those things. One developer, who I won't name so we don't get sued on the podcast, Uh, there's a big l A developer just got in trouble because he like put an illegal third story on his mansion to try and make

it the biggest one ever. Um. And then he got in trouble and he had to do community service and he sent his bodyguard to do the community get out. Um. But they were like, you can't build a third story on this house because it will fall down the hill. Um. So I think a lot of never mind treading, like about living in a place that has a horrible history, which is I guess the other half of the Sullivan

Ireland house thing. I was talking about this like this is obviously something we've talked about before with regard to

haunted houses. And I was talking to somebody about like living in a in a place that you knew somebody got murdered or that some other kind of like horrible thing happened, and like trying and trying to think of it in a way like I don't know that I could do this, but it seems like an admirable kind of like way to see it, which is like you you can replace their energy with your energy if you want, Hubris,

I don't know, can't you. But it's just it's all human energy, right, Like what makes one dude who lives and lived in the fifties and like killed his family a stronger person than you? I think that Mary is that he was he was possessed by a supernatural energy demise. Maybe I am too. Look, I'm just trying to find

a way to buy the haunted house. But I think what we are leading towards is that we want to be put into the haunting type challenge where we have to spend the night in a haunted house, and if we spend the night successfully, we own the house and it's the Night Call House. And I wouldn't do it. I just wouldn't. You guys play so fast and loose sometimes with the satanic stuff. Yeah, it's not that we're playing fast and loose, I agree with Emily. It's that

you can't just be like. I think this in general is that if you just feel like house right, if you feel like, let the bad people have America, which they obviously do right now, if you're like, there's nothing we can do about it, because it's also bad, you have to have a little It's true. It's true. This is a perfect segue for us to bring up the night called book Club. Yes, we are in the middle of right now. We have picked our second book. Um. We we announced it at the end of the last

book Club podcast. But if you haven't joined our Patreon at the five dollar level one up, um, now is the time to do so. Because we are eating ghost Land and American History of Haunted Places by Colin Dickey. Uh. And it is all about haunted places, haunted houses, haunted cemeteries, haunted parks, um everything and how all America is just haunted, which is what I feel like we talked about all the time here anyway. Uh. And that I'm I'm I'm, I'm well into it now and I'm really enjoying it.

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