133: Demonic Possession, Summum & Exploding Head Syndrome

guys feeling we should be super specific? We are. We're recording it Friday is now ten fifty seven am, specific time, because who knows what could happen in the rest of Friday. Friday could be an interesting day. You never know. It feels like there's three more plot twists. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, there's gonna be tons of recounts at this point. At looks like or at least one in Georgia probably and possibly in Pennsylvania. But I guess we'll see how

that shakes out. It's just been we've been living in a real liminal state for the last few days, and I think it's making everybody a little bit crazy right now. We were in a liminal state already, so this is like a liminal state inside a liminal state. Yeah, real, real tenant ours, this is we didn't need to see tenant in theaters. We're living it. Emily, you had champagne that is waiting or waiting to not be uncorked. This is. Yeah, this is my one act of of I guess optimism.

Even though you know, I could go on and on forever about how I'm feeling a very like unsatisfactory, like it's not fun, but I do feel a degree of indication about how close this ended up being, just because of how many people yelled at me about like how I was being overly pessimistic about Joe Biden's chances of being president because like the pool he's ahead so far in the pools and Wisconsin stuff, and I was like, guys, why are you looking at polls like we've done this already.

But I digress. I could, I could, I could yell forever about that, but yeah, I did buy a bottle of champagne on election day or it's prosecco but whatever, same effect, um, And I wasn't gonna spend that much money on a Biden presidency honestly, Um, but you know, just to have the back of the fridge just in case, just in case there's a more like an end of presidency too, to celebrate real that austerity. Champagne socialism, yeah,

prosecco socialism, prossecco socialisms. Okay, Yeah, I feel like I it's very strange, obviously everybody kind of feels this way to keep yourself from having feelings as you watch something that affects you so much. I mean on election night, Um, I started it to watch and then got deja vu. I was like, why am I putting myself through this? Like we won't know tonight. I don't want to have that like horrible dip into anxiety and despair and then the slow climb back up to like maybe it's okay.

So I went to bed at like ten, very well rested, and it's been happening again and again where I'm like, I could stay up and watch this play out, but I would really love to just not do that and just hope it plays out in our favor. Um, last time, four years ago, I made like a huge dinner. I

maybe even talked about this in the podcast before. But I just I made a roast chicken and like all of this stuff, and then I threw it in the trash when the polls changed, and then I was like so upset with myself because I was like, you should have just saved the chick, and it became like an even a compounding thing of like, oh, I was so self indulgent. It's just whatever, I don't want to see a great New Yorker short story exactly. Yeah, yeah, the

roast chicken in the trash. I like wanted to go to bed at like six pm, for sure and just go into a value of the dolls uh medically induced coma for a couple of weeks and come out the other side. But that wasn't an option. So I ended up going over to a friend's yard and seeing a few friends and hanging out together. And that was actually

the best thing I could have possibly done. I know it's not an option for everybody, but just like being around other people who are not that excited about a Joe Biden presidency, but are you know, nonetheless hopeful for a not Trump presidency. I'm not even gonna say that I'm not excited for a Joe Biden presidency, just because I want to get out of this situation so badly that I can't even take any pleasure in like rehashing

all of the feelings I had during the primary. I think it's like we have to kind of get over it. And I just feel everybody kind of like way eating on on this precipice, being like, I'm not going to say any shit about Joe Biden. I'm not going to say any about Joe by as soon as they call it for him, or you know, maybe as soon as he's actually inaugurated. We'll see how the next few months go. As far as calling the presidency, I think it's okay

whatever happens. But I'm just saying like, once it's certain that he's going to be our president, if it's certain, that's when you just let it all, let it all out and be like, Okay, you motherfucker, you are accountable to us. He helped you get this stupid job. I feel like it's fine to do that now, because I feel like anything else is like too superstitious of like we can't say anything bad or it'll it'll flip back

the other way. I do think that it was crazy to see the news channels be like we can cut Trump's mike. That was the most Bonker's part of yesterday to me, um was they all cut his mic during the speech because he was saying stuff that's not true and realize like they could have done this time, but they didn't because they wanted access or ratings or whatever. So it's like to say, it's like a bigger version of like people you know, turning on high Vey Weinstein

or something. Once he's like no longer that powerful. It's like once the tide starts to turn and and somebody doesn't hold this way that they have, and you can undermine them in a way that feels more just. There was a story about Trump calling Rupert Murdoch because Fox called Arizona for Biden and not everybody did, but the

ape he did, and AP and Fox News did. Yeah, And so now people think that Fox might call it first because they're just like showing Trump that like they have more power than him, they are more important than him, which is true, but also it makes me get scared about the like super soldier racist Nazi man they're gonna or women they're gonna come out with for the selection imagine Trump but like competent and like with the facade

of like a politician would be terrifying. Yeah, Like, in many ways Trump is not at all the ideal figurehead for this model of Republicanism. And it's like kind of been the only thing that's kept King from yeah, because he's not a true believer. He like doesn't believe any of the stuff I think. Um, not that the other aren't hypocrites, but like I for sure don't think he actually is pro life. He like clearly isn't a religious person.

You know. There's a bunch of things. And also like I'm afraid for the like everyone being ready to make just make him into a clown man, a George W. Bush like harmless clown man when he's not president anymore. I don't know if I think that will happen. I

don't either. I think the reason that George W. Bush is able to be a toothless clown man now, um and people seem to have this collective amnesia about how truly damaging and evil his uh presidency was is just because there wasn't the same day to day um interfacing with it that we have now like every single day if you're at all paying attention to any uh current events, and not even necessarily on social media, although that's the

way that most people are experiencing it. Like it's just like having like just be having your head and advice for the last four years. And I think that that I've been thinking a lot about like how that's going to affect our generation and the younger generation going forward. Like this, this this version of reality that we've been living in, unless it just gets worse, whish it could? I mean, well, speaking of weird versions of reality, uh Emily shared with us very very disturbing TikTok. I mean

it's one. It's one thing when you like are looking around on Twitter on election I perhaps despite your better judgment, and and going down threads of protoon people or whatever boughts and all of the above, and just seeing you know, the maga rhetoric which we've all become so familiar with up until now now mixed with like this sort of

delegitimizing the election. But like I stumbled in a to a completely other wing of weird right wingy conservative like semi magical thinking religious Twitter, it's right wing, it's right wing drama kid yeah, it's like Christian drama kid Twitter. Why do you explain what it is? And then we'll

talk about our reactions to it? Okay, So I and the context in which I found this was that it was retweeted by Perfume Genius, who I follow great follow also, but he retreeted um Andrea Russet, who I guess it's like an artist, like a music artist. Um, she's got seven point one million followers, so obviously I'm too old to know who she is, but my mutual follows are include Marshmallow and um. Yeah. Anyway, she retreated this saying this this this clip of a TikTok saying, how the

funk is this real? Um? And this is a TikTok from a user that goes by It's Taylor Rousseau and it's this incredibly dramatic complete with visual effects, makeup and a sound, a very dramatic soundtrack of some kind of

like very brooding Christian rock. It seems like of her enacting in this scenario in which she's being asked to bye bye, I guess by the Joe Biden Police State to get a a chip implanted in her arm that will protect her from covid um, but her knowing that this is the mark of the beast as we all know obviously of accident, that's going to be the mark of the beast. Um, she resisted and is killed um

by the bidens state for her resistance. And but then she goes to heaven and is uh is blessed by God for you know, doing the right thing in her

life on earth. Um. It ends with her in heaven, but she also gets like punched by like off screen, Like so it's all on this girl's face and so it's like her doing this acting and like it's subtitled, but she's like lip sinking to the song and getting like punched by somebody off screen and blood is coming down her face and she's all bruised up because she's refusing to get the vaccine. It's like it's kind of like the ultimate like stop hitting yourself, like of like

right wing conspiracy type stuff. It's like it's like truly like punching yourself in the face to own the lips or something. Um, but like highly dramatized. It's wild. And this was posted by Andrew Arrusset and the responses are shockingly in support of this narrative um and kind of saying, how could you make fun of this this woman's religious beliefs. Also we all know that like the vaccine is the mark of the beasts, and she has a point and you should. People need to be more aware of this.

And I'll make fun of Taylor Rosseau for this video, which just sent me down a wormle. Yeah, that's pretty emblematic of a lot of the realizations over the past few days in terms of how many people believe crazy, awful shit. I will say that I've seen a lot of stuff. I only see TikTok through Twitter because we are on TikTok. Could be if from the Nightcall Hive demands it, but it seems just like overwhelming to me. Still, I like having it like curated to me by Twitter

get the greatest hits. But I've seen all these things that are like really theater kitty people doing fake scenarios. It's like they're making up dystopian novels and doing acting it out. So that's what I thought this was. At first. I didn't think it was religious. I thought it was but it is that it's but it's based on a

real conspiracy. Did you guys see, there's like this Michael Bay produced movie coming to Netflix soon that is basically Songbird, Songbird about It takes place in like the world where there's COVID twenty nine or something. It's like the COVID has gone up to COVID fifty. He described it as Romeo and Juliet but set in a pandemic and it's like, it's a love story, guys. It's hot. Archy is starchee in it. Oh my god. The people who set out the stream to pirate that are doing the lord's work.

Because I was like, I want to be able to dunk on this having seen it, but I refused to spend a red scent on watching it. It's gonna be

a Netflix movie, I think, Oh is it? Yeah? Okay, because they were shooting it now and there was a do not work order that the union put out because they were not i think, observing UM correct protocols for cod I'm shocked that this libertarian movie that's all about the big government coming to get you and force you to take the vaccine, the chip vaccine or whatever wouldn't

obey a union protocol. Yeah, shocking. It's kind of Taylor made like for I don't know, like hunger games fans or something, because it's just like, like, what could be more ominous than the government putting a chip in you? Uh. The whole six six six thing though, is sort of like maybe be on my pay grade. It's it's it's

some revelationship. But like I don't I've been trying to read some blogs, and most, like I will say, to the credit of a lot of like like Christian blogs and stuff and like and like academic some like vaguely academic blogs that have been looking at most of them are like dispelling this. Um. They're just saying there's nothing,

there's nothing here. But it's some people are saying that this got started with um Kanye West talking about the vaccine and and you know, supposing that their why be aship that they would put in people's arms, and that it would be like them, you know, it would be like a mark of evil. And I just think all these all these things line up is like fundies and um people that don't want big government involved in their lives in any way, even when they would be helping you.

The acting out of the persecution is just so wild to me. And I think we like see this, so wait times, we're going to see so much more of it, especially like if if if the election is called for Biden raises why people think they're being persecuted. Yeah, they really believe this, and their their speech is always under threat. Um when you know, right, obviously this is not the case because we hear from them all the time, right.

And it's also like it's not just on the right, Like obviously there's like you know centrists who are like, we're being person you know, there's a lot of people that are pushing back against progress in various ways or being like let's keep it room temperature, folks, which is like nothing is ever going to be room temperature again,

so we gotta go with that instead. Um. Yeah, I feel like people always think it's the end of the world though, right, I think with more frequency lately, and I think with good reason, but a lot of hard evidence to support that one as opposed to the COVID beast beast conspiracy beast chip. Can't these people find out about like Prop twenty two and be like it's a conspiracy to like turn workers into machines. That would have

been the perfect way to direct conspiracy theory energy. It was such a lost opportunity, you know, because it's you know, when people would point out, like follow the money on Prop twenty two, people were convinced it was just that, like the ad campaign was too overwhelming, and you know, some people just fell for it. But that's also l A prop uh California props. So prop talk prop Talk, that's a bonus episode. Yes, exactly, that's the l A

podcast crossover episode. Exactly, Hot prop Talk. We should take a break and then when we come back, we will have some pyramid pals and dreams. Let's take a nightcall about pyramids in Brazil. Timn call. This is Rebecca. It's three twenty in some follow Brazil. I'm calling above a

cult but also pyramids. So um, this is my second voice mail because the other one was too long, So I'll just say that the planned city brasil Ya, which is the cap of Brazil, planned by of Kinye and Meyer, the modernist architect has always been intriguing to me because I think it's beautiful, but some people say there's some

weird energy around it because it's made of concrete. In all buildings have some sort of triangle base and the entire city is planned to be without any corners, so everything is kind of rounded, and if you look from above, it's shaped as an airplane. So all of this is

alrighty creepy. But I was browsing the International Film Festival of from Polo Catawang and I found a documentary that is about spirituality around some around Brazilian and I found out about this cult called Down Valley and it's really fascinating. It was founded by a medium in this n Sason. She was called Tiernava and the call is a mix of spirituality and Egyptian religion like deities. And I don't know much about it. I'm singing it the English uh

Wikipedia page for it. I found it fascinating. The where like very very colorful clothes and they do kind of like um, say, carreographs ritual. I really think you guys should look into it. I hope you have a good night. By thank you for that night call all the way from Brazil. That was very exciting. It's always really fun to hear from our our listeners who are not neighbors and then call come to Brazil. We came to Brazil. I am looking at a National Geographic article about this

about don Valley this cult. Um. I weirdly know a lot about Brazilia because I had a boyfriend who was really obsessed with it because it is so weird and it is very beautiful. Brazilia looks rad and it is also very scary. Yeah, he ended up going there. Eventually, he made a pilgrimage to Brazilia. UM And apparently now it is we heard or not weird. I mean dystopian in the way that everything is dystopian in that it's like this dream city, but it's kind of, you know,

become less shiny as time has passed. And I believe they have a homelessness epidemic in Brazil as they do everywhere else. So there are I think encampments like around some of these crazy buildings, which you know, just that kind of thing, like in downtown l A, where there's like these huge, you know, modern towers and nobody living in them and then people living on the streets below them. It's just, uh feels very dystopian, uh futuristic, blade runnery.

So I'm not surprised that new age people also are into this city because it has no corners, but it just fits in with our general um buildings in more interesting shapes than squares are deep dive into the overlooked bill things in other shapes than squares. Pyramid Palace has been a huge hit, and we had no idea when we started, but we've all had like a lifelong interest in pyramids. I wanted to be an Egyptologist for a while. Um. I took in egyptology class in college that was so

interesting that I, um almost failed. I had to drop. Well, it was so interesting that you almost failed, Yes, because like I don't have a brain for dates at all or maps, so I kept like failing all the quizzes because they were like, what, you know, draw a map of Egypt in the year, in this year, this era, you know, and I could not do that. But everything

I learned in the class was like incredibly fascinating. And it also ended up being about the history of Egyptology and you know, sort of the great era of looting by the British Museum and like what's happening now with that stuff, for artifacts are being repatriated back to where they belong in Egypt. Yeah, um, well, just to get back to the Valley of the Don for a bit. I would highly recommend looking this up just strictly for like style points, because the outfits that the practitioners wear

when they're doing their ceremonies are like very rare. They look very much like costumes from a Yodorowski film or something very like colorful, blocky, kind of like god spellish. That's also what Brazilia feels like to me. It just feels like, yeah, like it's built to be the backdrop,

like like alphabel. Yeah, and their beliefs seem very complicated, but one of them, I I like the kind of um balancing out of of of a cult to beliefs that rather than say, Egypt being built by Aliens, which as we've I think discussed, is basically racist, uh, as a conspiracy theorist conspiracy theories go, uh, they just believe that Jesus was an alien, which I'm into that one.

I'm super into that. There's a lot of Jesus is an alien And somebody else wrote about the re aliens and we'll get into them sometime soon, but I totally get down with the Jesus was an alien. That makes Jesus makes so much sense. Yeah, he's just Superman then, which is fine. Like that that all that's like the joining of of of superhero weirdness and religious weirdness. That just yeah to taste that taste fine together. Yeah, please look up the Temple of Dawn Valley because it is

also very Yodorowski. It is a colorful labyrinth. Yeah, the colors are great, like because Brazili. It is also pretty like monochrome, um, which is like one of the reasons I think it looks so pretty, especially now that it's getting old and like something. They're like cracks and a lot of the concrete structures and like moss and kind of where on them. Like I think it looks really

it's it's aging very well, um from a purely aesthetic standpoint. Um. But the Don Valley stuff is like mega color pops, like just very polyphonic spree. Uh. Yeah. And this religion was started in nineteen sixty nine and you can tell that's where it stays. And I like that it was started by Tianieva, was an ex truck driver. That's how shoes described really nice hot tip on the Pyramid Palace. Thank you so much for that. Yeah. Um. We also have another We have a voice memo from Patrick high

Night call. This is Patrick in Salt Lake City, And did it tell you about another pyramid, the Some of Them Temple here in Salt Lake. It's located right in the middle of a normal neighborhood. It's about a forty ft wide pyramid. I think it's about twenty five ft tall. It's built by the sum Them, which is a I'll use the term new religious movement, which is heavily influenced by ancient Egyptian aesthetics. Unlike most pyramids these days, this

one actually has mummies in it. Some of Them's founder was mummified and placed into a gold leaf start caphagus, and a handful of cats, dogs, and other animals have also been mummified and encased in a bronze sculpture. Some of them offers this service mummification to human and animal customers alike. If you are ever in the market, if you ever want to get lost down a very nightcall

rabbit Hole. Check out some of Them's website at some of them dot us s U M m U M. There's ures of the mummies, including the animals, and including the process. Nothing too gruesome, but they do show the animals wrapped in bandages and and getting ready to go into a bronze sculpture. So it's pretty interesting. Boy, fascinating. I've never heard of this before in my life. I definitely have come across this before on my Wikipedia travel

through the pyramid section and maybe the new religious section. Um. Super fascinating. Also fascinating that it's Salt Lake City based, because you know, Mormonism is essentially a new religious movement. It is much less old than people think it is. And when you go into the actual teachings of Joseph Smith and stuff, it is all like, incredibly nutty and involves like a lizard coming and talking to him on his window sill. So um, great promo for the real

housewives of Salt Lake City. I'm curious what it is about Salt Lake City. Patrick included some pictures from the website, and there's a picture his caption is inside the pyramid, it looks like your aunt's living room circ except that there are human and animal mummies inside of those sarcopha guy, it is the strangest mix of like aesthetics I've seen. I don't know, guys, would you want to be mummified?

Sure you would, I don't know. I mean, it's takes up an awfu lot of room, but it seems more problem ecologically sound than like modern traditional burial, like just you know, let a lot of bandages do the work of all those chemicals or something. It could be cool to be a mummy. I don't know, but you guys, I would do the mushroom suit. If I were mummified. I would not want to be stored at the Summum the Summum Temple. I believe their Their website is definitely

worth a look. I took a cool art class when I was a kid um where we made little Egyptian tombs and we made little clay mummies and bandage them and then put them in a little made little sarcophag eye for them. I just don't trust this sum them organization undane like on top of their body preservation tech, like it all looks a little bit JANKI Well, it feels like the cryogenically freezing people a little bit too. It does feel like there's something very like seventies Altered

States about it. Well, it's it has a d i y vibe. That's the the off putting thing. And and you know how sometimes like I don't know, you can judge an organization by whether or not you feel like they have the means and technology to make an air tight chamber. Um, that's like something I always think about. But yeah, I like religions. Can they make an eartight

chamber or not? I don't think that they can. I think that there's going to be some unpleasantness with this body at some point down the line for them, uh being mummified in their temple. Okay, but if they're using like ancient mummification techniques like those do work, but are they I don't trust them to be on That's what I'm saying. I don't think that they're doing it right. Also, their their pyramid looks like a storage container. Like the only thing that makes it not look like like an

extra space storage facility is that it's a pyramid. Other than that, it just looks like, yeah, where you would keep your records or something, or or your mummies or your relatives and pets like some mums. Some mummies. I think that's what it is, right, some mums. We cracked it. So aside from pyramids, we have been putting out for your dreams. We wanted to hear about your dreams and

your you know all matters of your subconscious. Just felt like, you know, as we near the end of a super surreal year, why not take a full bath in the subconscious. And we got some great ones from you, some so far, so we're gonna do a little dream mail. Um. But this first email comes from JP, who says I'm responding to your call for prophetic dreams. It happened about five or six years ago, and I've only ever told a few people. I remember being taken by someone to a

high cliff across from a tall bear mountain. Suddenly lightning shot out of the great clouds, striking the rock face in an explosion of fire and smoke. As the dust plumes settled, I saw a list of thirteen names, and I wept as I instantly and intuitively understood that these were the names of the thirteen families that secretly control the world. It was at that moment that I woke up not remembered a single one of them to this day of tribe and nothing has come to me. Oh well,

this is just car This is a great dream. You gotta remember. You gotta do some hypnosis and figure out what those names are. Definitely, uh yeah, I I think this sounds close to like some of the bad conspiracy theory things of the Thirteen Families who control the world. But I just really like the idea of like being in a dream and there's an explosion and then these names appear before you, when you just break down into

sobs because you're just like it's important. Yeah. It just makes me think about in Boogie Nights when Dirk has the dream or his name reveals itself in Neon Yes with an explosion. Well, this also makes me think of the UM. I think it's more or less true. But like all dream things, it's like it's never a science,

so you don't really know. But this idea that like you can't read anything in a dream, you can't remember anything you read, yeah, which I think mostly just means you can't read anything in dream, which is very strange. I would love to have somebody come on and explain that for us, Like why does written language not make it through? I don't know. Do you remember seeing billboards before you could read, yes, and being like those are

like you know someday what that means? I feel like it's like that I remember feeling like I could read long before I could so I think I was just like looking at words and making up what they meant, you know, Like that's the thing that kids do a lot. They quote unquote read a book um, which is always

very adorable. Uh yeah, no, the reading things, like, you know, if you were to get some kind of cryptic prophetic prophetic prophecy uh in a dream, like doing it and writing feels like the most obscured way to get it, Like how would you you would have to hear the voice of something. I feel like sounds make it through really well. The idea of it being writing though, so interesting because of the idea of like language being this great evolutionary leap for word that you know, goes back

to apes and and came to us. Because I feel like even when you see it with children like my brother's kids now, it's like they make this leap all of a sudden where their brain can suddenly read and process language, and it's so crazy. So the idea that there's like the next level of that that the human brain can't reach yet but possibly could. I think the

thirteen names can probably right and probably access that. If we could just read the thirteen names, then we would become like the super you know, we would reach them maybe and sixteenth names right here. One of them is Kardashian. I'm afraid I think it's like Bezos. I mean, I feel like it saw the Billionaires right. Um. I I

would like to propose we take another night email about dreams. Um, but I'm going to insist on reading this one because I'm obsessed with it and it is about exploding head syndrome. This comes from Natalie High night Call, Long time, First time. I've recently learned that an occurrence I've had with my dreams the last couple of years has a really concerning name and is actually a diagnosable thing, exploding head syndrome. Exploding head syndrome is when you have auditory hallucinations while

you are asleep. For me, they first manifested as dreams where someone would be knocking on my front door forcefully like a cop, and this would jolt me awake as I truly believed I heard knocking. I would then panic search my house to try to find the source. They occurred a few more times until I started to realize they weren't real. I have since had some that were just loud crashes or like something crushing inside my head

like I was gnashing on rocks. They always wake me up and cause a panic response, as waking up to any sudden loud noise would. They first started after a vacation in Spain, when someone broke into our airbnb after knocking where I was alone taking a nap. So I initially thought they were a PTSD response, but in reading more about them, I think they might be more related to a head injury I sustained in a car accident the same year, or a stress or sponsor from either

of those things. Who knows, but knowing they are a real thing that happens to other people too has helped in my panic response and seemed to calm them down. Day. Yeah, exploding head syndrome, you guys, Have you guys ever experienced anything like that? No auditory hallucining I've had. I've had like some weird during migraines, I get an aura where I I can hear, but it's not when I'm asleep. Um, but I get like some auditory stuff and some visual stuff in like the aura, which is super scary when

it first happened. Um, but I cannot imagine being I guess in a way, you know, after earthquakes. I feel like sometimes I have that jolted awake by like I think I hear some loud noise or I feel a jolt or something in your dreams, like when you're yeah, yeah, I mean I get that one a lot, don't you like the following dream that ends with you like actually jolting in your bed exactly that kind of thing. Yeah,

And or a crash. I've heard like a crash where there was no crash and been like, oh, yeah, oh that's so weird. Yeah. I Also this reminds me a lot of like brains apps. Um. I don't know if you guys have ever had those and stuff. Those are the scariest because they don't warn you about them. And then yeah, I wrote a thing about it once about going through withdrawal and just yeah, and all these people

were like, oh, I have that too. Uh. That's like the number one thing they should tell you when they put you on brain maps but they don't, is that your brain will do these little zapps. Um. I got those from shingles, by the way, and not from meds. But I had shingles when I was like super duper stressed, and it was right after i'd had a baby and I got shingles like on my neck and like it was really there. I guess it was like the nerves, the closer they are to your head. But I had

I remembered Molly telling me about them. I was like, these are brains apps because they just feel like a little electrical current. Yeah, it feels like a mini seizure in a way, right. And there's also like they can do things to your brain by pressing on parts of them to sort of make some of these things happen. From what I understand, um, the thing that a lot of schizophrenic people have where they think they're being followed.

There's like some part of the brain that controls the fact that your body feels like it's in your body. And then there's like a part of the brain that if you press on it, it feels like your body is behind you or in front of you. So you should do that to me, I mean, just to bring it back to the chip, you know. Yeah, Oh, I'd love to feel behind my body. I would like to. Uh. Seems scary I have. I think auditory hallucinations are the

scariest thing. And I tried to read that Oliver Sack's book about it at a period when I was like maybe not doing great, and I immediately like had to stop reading it because it was just making me feel just afraid of things I didn't even know could happen to people. Yeah, but I do also hear people saying mommy a lot, and think saying Molly. That happens constantly. That's just miss hearing Molly that I know. I'm just saying. You never think someone's calling your name and you're like, no,

they're saying mommy. It just sounds my name is mommy, So it's even more confusing. It's a premonition. Yeah. No, this, like all of this stuff, is just anything that makes you realize how soft and vulnerable the human brain is. That's why it needs your skull. It does need your does it needs the pyramid to protect it? Which is just yeah, no, this is this is super interesting. Um, well, do you want to take a quick break and come back with maybe one of the scariest night calls we've

ever gotten? Yes? All right, all right, well this one is not exactly a dream email. We still wanted to talk about it because it does have to do with the subconscious, and I will admit like test first brought this one up to us, it was like, this is really freaky, and I, um, I would concur this is this is a rather upsetting night email, but I feel like we should read it, but buckle up and make sure that yeah, if you believe in demons, maybe maybe uh twune out. But so this email comes to us

from Sarah. I've cut it down a little bit, but um, she writes to us, dear night call, where do I start? Roughly eleven years ago, I believe I was possessed. I have zero recollection during that time. But what I can't forget is waking up to a face on my mom which I had never seen before or Since it was the summer and I was having trouble sleeping, the allotted unrest caused me to discover Alpha Delta Gamma wave videos on YouTube, and hence turned into a sort of obsessive

sleep routine. I would set my laptop as close to close as possible and try to settle in for the night as subtle affirmations surrounded me. Fast forward three days, where I woke up partially under the bed, with the room and disarray and my mother fuming in the doorway. She was mid stream yeiling at me, and when she realized I was listening, which brought on a spiel about my boss contacting her over missed work and how how

was she supposed to explain that. My mom, still seeming, explained the calendar days to me and eventually answered as to why she was so angry. Turns out I spent the whole time flopping around my sister's room as well as sleeping. On one of those days, she was concerned and tried feeding me water, to which I allegedly screamed at her, keep your water off of me, you filthy whore, and then proceeded to lick my own face wildly. Mind you, I had not eat and drank or relieve myself, and

more importantly, my mama is close to a saint. I was utterly confused by all of her news, and I made amends during the day, slept a ton more, and eventually turned back to YouTube for my bedtime routine. Here's the very disconcerting part. The very disconcerting part. I went to the last video I started nights earlier. Within the comments, someone said they had ran some frequency meter and was learning the creator that the frequency stated was off just

so and was instead broadcasting something demonic. I know nothing of these things. The creator simply replied that he or she would look into it, But those comments were posted a long time before I found myself reading them. Because of this, I'm still terrified of that genre. I'm thinking she means a genre of YouTube video and the irresponsibility or malintent of people streaming it. I grew up a

strict nondenominational Christian. We're talking an unbending schedule of at least nine hours of church a week, disregarding the thirty minute drive each way. There were things about the Bible which seems so unjust and terrifying to me, and the idea of being possessed is always one of them. And yet I think in a way I found myself full circle. I'm hopeful you or your least listeners could shed sub light on the matter. Who Yeah, yeah, I have a lot of thoughts on this one. Uh. Do you guys

know of these videos by any chance? Because I wasn't really familiar. I've heard of them, but not I've never like investigated them, but I do. I think I found them when we were talking about a s m R. A few years ago and found some of the like, um, the beta wave, things that are supposed to be like talking about it a little bit because um, that's what Denise Richard's husband does. I think I was, And it's the sound baths and stuff like that. I think like

some of the one that's like the peaceful frequency. So I watched a bunch of videos that were like whatever it was, forty six hurts or something, um, and it doesn't sound peaceful. It sounds like somebody doing a sound test. It's just like whoop. And it's funny because people put it over new age music because it's like this relaxing tone, but then it just sounds like an alarm or something

interrupting new age music. It's not very relaxing. Doesn't it defeat the purpose if you're playing music in the middle of it, like you're not getting a pure tone. Well, you can get the pure tone if you want it. I would say I didn't. I didn't feel the effects of the tone. Although I think tones can be very powerful. I believe in like the power of you know, ancient drone music and stuff like that. I think music and sound can do things to your brain, can do things

to your brain waves. Yeah, I have a couple of like audio like there it's a podcast that has like a free yoga class on it. It's basically audio. And I was never listening to one of them all the way through because like the thing would be over and I just turned it off. And then I did one day and I realized that there was like a sound

bass sequence at the end of it. So it was playing on my speakers and I accidentally I'm sitting there in savasana and like suddenly like and it's really intense, like even just over my speakers on a podcast, it was like this sort of vibrat sational thing where I was like, like you kind of feel I mean, it is a peaceful feeling, but it's it definitely has a physiological effect on you. Um. And that's not even in person. That's not even being in some specially constructed acoustic setting.

But like this is a YouTube video that she's talking about, like this is playing over laptop speakers. I used to listen to white noise um like like rainfall, and I would do the YouTube videos because they I could notice when the sound resets and it would like, you know, just I didn't like that because I would start identifying like different beats in the little clip that they were using.

So I found a YouTube of like a ten or eleven hour long UM thunderstorm, and it was great like the first couple of times, but then I started I didn't know if it was I think I was just being a little cuckoo, but I started listening and like hearing stuff under it um and then I was really freaked out and I didn't want to listen to it anymore. But we've we've talked so much on this podcast ab out YouTube and how YouTube is just I mean, if if there is the possibility of demonic possession, it would

for sure exist on YouTube. That's like the first step. And if subliminal messaging does work in any way, they're definitely people trying subliminal messaging because it's so unregulated. I feel like you've talked a lot about how much insane stuff there is that comes up for kids. That's why I'm so I'm so suspicious of YouTube all the time. I just remember, I mean, it was a real whole arc of like my son watching the truck videos, the truck music videos, and he was really getting a lot

out of it. Then he was also doing some like learning videos, and then all of a sudden you just noticed that there would be these slight links between this video and the next video. And I mean, the the stuff he saw was super, super, super concerning, to the point where I think, if you haven't seen those things, you read what people write about them and think that they're like suburban women losing their ship over nothing, or

like conspiracy theories. Legitimately, it was hard to even understand like what these videos, what their purpose was right now, they're legitimately super scary. And the way the YouTube videos just flow into each other, don't you know, just keep loading new things and they all eventually funnel you to

like Ben Shapiro, because that's how they're algorithm. It's also, though even not even scarier than Bench Shapiro, but like in a in a whole different realm of scariness are the videos that are just strange, like the ones that we've talked about, you know, like what driver tors and like what people think those are sweet peach exactly, um, And then you start thinking about like one some of the ones that my son was watching were um, like cars,

video game cars just driving off cliffs and exploding and like you're just like what why, like what's being here? Or like the ones that just seem off and you're but otherwise are just kind of like there's nothing happening, there's no clear purpose, there's no narrative of it just seems designed to kind of leave an impression and it's just like an experiment on their brains because who knows,

it's just clockwork orange. But like, I still feel like there's a difference between that stuff about that kind of possibly AI generated content, Like some of those YouTube videos seems like they're doing the kind of SEO for like basically what children, like the ultimate channel ers of it are requesting on YouTube. So they're like, oh, we have a lot of searches for truck exploding into flames. Let's make a c g I video of a truck exploding

into flames. We can get those views from all those eight year olds, Like, which is you know, very weird and just consider on its own, but you can kind of like connect some dots that are still upsetting. But like I do think that, like in a very unscientific way, I feel like there is a possibility of like some of these tone videos at least like in the way that meditation can kind of you know, provide some clarity or you can have epiphanies or whatever from meditation or

from any kind of therapy. To honestly, like, I would not rule out the possibility, Like I think that there's I think the context of her having grown up in a non and nominational Christian household and going to church nine hours a week and having you know, even if she is like not a fan of that, the idea of demonic possession, like that stuff gets planted in your subconscious so hard if especially if you grow up with

it as a child. And I think like, even if she doesn't subscribe to that now, I just like it's really frightening to think that that could manifest itself in some way because you're in some kind of liminal or meditative state or whatever, and that you know, that stuff that is in your nightmare fuel basically for the rest of your life kind of comes to the surface, right. And again that's like what's so scared worry about the human brain is like you can't necessarily control it, and

the idea that somebody else might be trying to control it. Uh. I obviously do believe that there are people making YouTube to try and hypnotize you into whatever. And I do think that like, yes, something gets you in a vulnerable, semi hypnotic state, and you have grown up with this idea of demonic possession. But also maybe she was possessed by a demon. I mean, I also just think that

there are possible explanations for this that are not demonic possession. Um. And definitely I believe the emailer that her mom is nice and patient and great, but I also think that it's possible sometimes in extremely religious households to ignore things, um that our health or mental health related, and they kind become, you know, what appears to be a demonic possession. But I know totally yeah, not to diagnose the email

or at all or anything. But there's also I mean, seizures, for instance, high flavers, things like that if if someone refuses to take you to a doctor again not saying that that's what happened, religious faces, perhaps even a panic attack, um, you know, anything dissociative, and it's just a scary feeling to feel like you are losing control of your brain

or can't trust your own brain. And it's made scarier if the person who's carrier under isn't willing maybe to acknowledge that that could be the problem, and instead, you know, it assigns some kind of more supernatural or like evil sort of explanation for it, which I think can only compound any panic attack or what ever that you might be going through at the time, or any you know,

just sort of dissociative state. It's also I mean, you mentioned the color mentioned that, or the emailer mentioned that they were having trouble sleeping, and this kind of stuff can also happen if you even if you think that you've been sleeping, if you feel like you haven't been sleeping, but you know, there are times when you feel like you must have slept some but you're not actually really

falling asleep. After a few days of that, it wouldn't really be like that outside of the realm of possibility that you would disassociate so much that your behavior would seem like what you're describing. You know. Yeah, I think it's a generally safe and not at all paranoid rule thumb maybe to not fall asleep with YouTube that is that is very true. I mean that's what I felt like eventually, I was like, you know, you're in a

very suggestive state when you're trying to fall asleep. And then you know, when I started, like here, when I started thinking I hear stuff underneath. That's that's partially because when you listen to white noise, like, that's what happens is that if you're having trouble falling asleep, especially, you start to identify things that are annoying, that are keeping

you up in the track. That's mental well you and I think you know with YouTube, like someone might have even just been having a laugh with being like you're some relaxing noises and every so off and offen in like and kind of keep you away. And maybe it was just a natural thunderstorm noise, but your brain was interpreting it as creepy in some way. That's almost certainly

what it was. I mean, but I don't know. Do you know what I recommend, because I have gone through the same thing is explore dot org as I always recommend the live Earth cams. You can often find one that's like an actual nature sound and it will just yeah, because I have the same problem with like, once I you're looping, it doesn't relax me ever again, Yeah, yeah, you you realize you're in a in a simulacrum. Yeah,

the storm or whatever. I wonder if the demonic tones thing though, because friend of the pod, Carter Cruz, also was talking about somebody who she was following who talked about how like E d M has demonic a demonic note in it, and there was like this demonic note sort of conspiracy that again, I was like, I don't like the like the Devil's like the tri tone. Yeah, basically I want to know what this note sounds. Like, what do you think the demonic note sounds. I mean

you should find it him. I think the demonic tri tone. It's just making me imagine like a Dracula church organ, you know, just some minor keys. Probably I'm gonna trying to find it. That's it right there, That's that's the demonic Yeah, totally. The sound of garbage truck we just got it. Wheeling is a demonic tone. But it's like

anything can become demonic. Remember when we had the whole ice cream truck sagay up early on in the podcast, Um, somebody who's getting sent the sound of an ice cream truck and it's just one of the creepiest things for whatever reason, because it's so North Carolina that I heard that one all the time. The Hello on the ice cream truck and anything can get creepy if it's repeated enough. And I just also think tempo, you know, like very fast music makes me feel stressed out. Uh, sometimes I

want that. There's another thing that's like the sound of falling downstairs. It's like the permanent spiral. It's a musical thing. They do it in a Mario game for an endless staircase. It is basically just it just sounds like it's going down always, but it's always just the same. Uh. If you know anything else about demonic music or music and hypnosis at Double Tones, you should give us a nightcall

about it at two four oh for ace I site. Yeah, and also if you have any uh insight on on this color's experience with the alpha and gamma tones in YouTube slash any um suspected demonic possessions yourself? Um, please let us know all about that. I also feel like you can feel like you're being possessed when you have

the sleep demon sitting on your chest. Do you ever get trapped in like a like a nap and you try to wake up and like sleep paralysis that can feel like possession to me, where you're like trying to get out of a dream. Nightmare on Elm Street stylie. Thankfully, I never really had that before. Dodge that one. Well, that's it for this week. Thank you so much for listening to Nightcaul. If you have a story about dreams here amid anything else, please give us a night Call

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