Welcome to Nice Ashes, I'm Nate. And I'm Mike. What are we smoking today, Nate? We are smoking what appears to be a rectangle. So this is an Oliva Master Blends 3. Not to be confused with the Oliva Master Blends 1 or 2, Master Blends 5 is right out. It is fairly squashed. Box presses usually look more like a box, so this one is definitely flatter on the top and bottom than it is on the sides. Yeah I would call this a rectangular press Robusto. So we're back to my favorite size again.
Yes, well we've been doing Robustos the past few episodes, right? Yeah we have. We got away from them, we were doing some Gordo's, now we're back to the Robustos. So I like Gordo's as well. Alright, well we're going to light up here. So far initially nothing unsavory on the first couple puffs. I know a couple episodes back with the Oliva Connecticut it wasn't the best start. Doesn't always mean anything, but this has a pretty good start to it I believe. Yeah it's got a good start.
There's a little acid note to it, maybe acetone. That's not necessarily a bad thing, a lot of cigars have that front flavor for me. Yeah I am pairing mine with a Bauhaus Brew Labs Lounge Wizard Hazy IPA and the Bauhaus Brew Labs is a local Minnesota brewery. Very nice. I'm having a Whiskey Sour, my own Whiskey Sour. You seem to be favoring those recently. Well I think you always favor them and I favor them too whenever I'm around.
Well I have the Soda Stream and I just like a Whiskey Sour so it's an easy drink to make. You don't have to explain yourself to me Mike. I don't think I've had a Whiskey Sour on the show for a month. Oh you haven't. I've been drinking straight Whiskey. Oh yeah that's right. I was drinking Journey Walker Black I think. I got a handle on that like a year ago and I'm still working on it obviously. So before we get into it here I thought you might like a little update.
It seems that for the longest time we had a, I think it was maybe the first episode of season one was our most listened to, most downloaded episode of our show. However, our most recent Ahsoka episode has overtaken it to become the most popular episode of ours thus far. Interesting. Did we have four or five downloads? 41 in the first couple days and then there's more since then. But a large part of that is due to Simha sharing it with all of his Star Wars Facebook groups that he's part of.
So he's been out there putting us out into the Kathleen Kennedy verse. Well you know thank him for that from me since we don't directly communicate and if his podcast ever needs a guest you know we can, one or both of us could certainly join him. Yes indeed. I did find out one of my other friends started a podcast, a friend that I went to high school with and it's called Midwestern Shenanigans.
There's a couple of them out there right now you can only find it on Spotify but this is the one with a boat on a lake for the cover and it is Mel and Nicole, Melissa and Nicole.
So I listened to most of the first episode, pretty good stuff so if you're looking for something a little different, something that would not be the male shop talk as it were and I believe that one of them at least said that they'd be willing to smoke a cigar and come on our show so maybe we could do a little cross promotional show. Heck yeah we could find something that they would like depending on their tastes.
So yes I thought it might even be fun to just do just whip out like a Swisher sweet or something for going full on Midwestern backwoods. We'll see. We could do a backwoods cigar. I think I can find them somewhere. Okay yeah. Have you ever smoked a backwoods? I don't think so. I don't know. They're trash. I don't smoke a Swisher sweet back in the day. Yeah the backwoods is like the Swisher sweet version of a shrew. They're awful.
Once I found out that there were more cigars out there than Swisher sweets I really haven't looked back. I've never really been jonesing for a cigar so bad that I had to just stop it at a gas station and get a Swisher sweet. Right. Yeah I walked into a cigar lounge the first time when I was 17. So yeah all right are you excited about our topic tonight Mike? I don't even know what the topic is Nate. It's your episode not my episode. This is well it's collectively our episode I guess.
So anyway our episode today I wanted to get things away from all the heavy stuff. I think we had one of our heaviest episodes just recently. This is super serious subject matter and everything with our Ahsoka episode and then we kind of went into COVID and child sex trafficking. So let's go a little bit different route. And I'm going to regale you with a story from my college days Mike. And I don't know if I've ever told you this. I don't feel like I've maybe I've never told anybody this.
So what better place than here on the podcast to tell this story. One of my girlfriends in college gave me a book and I and there's two books on this topic out there in the world. There's probably more but there's two big ones and one has a Taoist background and one is secular non-religious. Although I don't I don't know how religious Taoism is in the grand scheme of things. I'm sure it is. I'm guessing that there's people who are very extreme about it somewhere not here but somewhere.
Yes. Just like the extreme Buddhists. Oh yes. So anyway she gave me this book and I can't remember what it was called and I and I'm not a hundred percent sure. But why don't I for the sake of this I believe it's called The Multi-Orgasmic Man Sexual Secrets Every Man Should Know. Nice. Is that the book that you thought I was going to be talking about Mike?
No. Now let's now let's now let's be fair before Mike goes on a tangent because I can already see his gears going and we're not even in the same room. This episode is going to be about sexual myths and maybe sexual facts about this book is what prompted me to want to do this episode or this topic I guess. What prompted me to want to do the episode was smoking and drinking with Mike. But yeah the topic for this episode. Yes. So I never read the book. I gave it back to her.
I think I read maybe the first chapter and I thought well this is some bullshit and kind of left it at that. So the book was kind of talking about multiple male orgasms and orgasms that are without production I guess. We're going to get into some of the terms here. And just the first part of this episode is going to where I'm going to break I'm going to break down what's called a dry orgasm for men or a non ejaculatory orgasm.
And then we're going to go into the multiple male orgasm and then we can kind of talk about that. And then I've got a bunch of fun sex myths slash facts that we can go through. So but I did do a little bit extra research on this the first bit about the men's stuff because I figured there's probably not very many men out there talking about this. Maybe there are I don't know. Not my not the men that I know. Right.
I mean you know men really don't say hey do you usually just orgasm the one time when you're you know banging your wife or you have multiple or what's your what's your deal like. Like what's the situation like. We're more like yeah bad sex with the wife. Nice nice you know whatever. So it's not mentioned at all. I'm guessing. Yeah. Is that something that is discussed. It's definitely something Mike and I do not talk about.
No no. That's something that most I'm guessing most guys don't talk about. I'm not talking about it with my coworkers. Yeah. Hopefully not. I think that's a big HR no no. I'm not an HR specialist though so I don't know. So we're going to start out with the dry orgasm for men which this is from health direct dot gov dot a you. This is what they term a non ejaculatory orgasm. So it says here that some men can have an orgasm without ejaculating. So I guess that's not a myth.
They still have the feeling of having an ejaculation but little little or no semen comes out of the penis is what it says. It says that some men say that the dry orgasm feels just like a regular one and others have maybe slightly reduced sensation. Is that like when you're 14 and you're jacking off like eight times a day and nothing comes out of the tip of your dick or what. Yeah I mean it doesn't really say an age. There are some medical things here.
There was one kid and I think it was on the internet but it might have just been one of those urban legends. There's a kid who jacked off like 14 times in a day and died like gave himself a heart attack because yeah there's some medical reasons for this and I'm going to kind of talk through some of the medical stuff and this is mostly why I stopped reading the book because it just didn't sound good. You know what I mean. It didn't sound like it was something I wanted to have happen. Right.
To me personally. Dry orgasm happens when there's no semen made in the body which you know medical condition or whatever. And if the semen travels backwards into the bladder instead of coming out the penis this is called a retrograde ejaculation. In this case some people will notice that their urine is cloudy after a dry orgasm. And so I've just kind of getting the heebie jeebies just just reading some of this stuff. But isn't that a sign that you have chlamydia. I don't know.
It didn't say it didn't say that here. I mean cloudy cloudy urine cloudy urine if I remember correctly. It's been a long time since I had to study STI's and STD's. I thought you were going to say but it's been a long time since I had chlamydia. No. I don't know. It hasn't been that long. No no no. But yeah.
So anyway it says here that dry orgasms are not a problem in themselves but sometimes they're caused by conditions that need to be treated and they also need to be treated if you want to procreate have a child. And just as a talk to your doctor about treatments that may be suitable for you if you are having dry orgasms. So this definitely makes it sound like it's not a bad thing but it's not necessarily the normal thing. So if you're having them you should probably talk to a doctor.
And basically that was kind of the first chapter of this Tao book where it was saying look you don't have to ejaculate to have an orgasm feel good and you just like hold that in. And I don't know. Most times when you try to hold something in it just doesn't work well. Holding your pee. Trying to not vomit. Not sitting in the bathroom after Taco Bell or whatever. So. Right. But I don't know. I mean I guess it's not necessarily a medical issue. So it could be done.
But here's where it kind of takes it to the next level with the multiple male orgasm. And this is where you're trying to train your body to basically have a non ejaculatory orgasm. Okay. So you're trying to purposefully do this to yourself. Yes. Well buckle up. Here we go. This is from and I do not know this guy. We share the same first name. This is Nate liaison dot com slash blog. So super legit. But it's a whole big page. I didn't I didn't take the whole thing.
I just thought we could talk about a little bit of it. We don't have to actually. I mean this guy is recommending all sorts of things. So it seems to be extremely reliable. Yeah. Almost as reliable as dot gov slash EU levels. Got to be. Got to be. The only thing more reliable would be a dot org. Multiple male orgasm dot org. You send us send us a five dollar bill and we send you a multiple male orgasm stamp and then you can come as many times as you want.
As long as you print your name in all capital letters. Period. Don't forget the brackets around your fucking zip code or they're on to you. Oh boy. Oh yes. Okay. So this is saying not only can guys have multiple orgasms in a single session, they can do it without ejaculating with no recovery period and they can have prolonged orgasms that last for over a minute. This is like what you'd be flipping through at three or four in the morning on the infomercial channel.
I was going to say this reminds me of early 2000s advertising on the internet. Yeah. Yeah. So I guess according to this guy there are four types of orgasms. There's the ejaculatory orgasm. The non ejaculatory orgasm which they deem an NEO. Then they have a prolonged or peaking non ejaculatory orgasm. So I guess that's the orgasm that lasts more than a minute. And then they have a prostate orgasm which he doesn't talk about at all. So interesting.
He only cares about the non ejaculatory and the prolonged non ejaculatory. But he gives a real handy nice five step process to multiple orgasms. So you too can do this at home though I am not a doctor so please don't take my word for any of this because I have not tried any of this. Wink wink. Well so the first step is ejaculatory control. You need to be able to masturbate for 10 or more minutes in a single go. So you need a lot of time on your hands to put a lot of other things on your hands.
The second one here is Kegel exercises. He was saying Kegel exercises are not just for women. That's old school thinking. And he recommended a couple of training apps whether you're on an iPhone or an Android. And he's like you could just use these trading apps and trade your Kegels or whatever. And then daily practice he says set aside 20 minutes every night. That's the third step. 20 minutes every night to do your Kegels and your 10 minute 10 minute or more masturbation session.
Dude who has 20 minutes to set aside for something like that? I don't have 20 minutes set aside to do damn near anything that I already am not doing. That is fair. And with two kids I have to wait probably 15 to 17 years before I might have 20 minutes to do anything. And it's probably not going to be the solo stuff when I do. You're not going to do Kegel practices? Yeah. I guess I could work up my Kegels for the next 18 years and be the world's strongest. I could be Mr. Kegel man.
Maybe that's a new Marvel superhero coming out. Mr. Kegel. If it's a new Marvel superhero it's not going to be a man. Okay let's put it that way. That's fine. That's fair. They could still be a female character and still be called Mr. Kegel. That is true. All right the fourth step. Separate the orgasm from ejaculation. The goal here is to squeeze the PC muscle hard enough to stop ejaculation.
So you know your body is like I'm going to do my body thing and then your super Kegel is basically saying oh no you're not. But you still did or didn't? I don't I mean I don't know how that all works. So that's why I stopped reading the book after the first chapter and I remember that vividly where it was basically saying you need to forcibly stop yourself. Which seems weird to me. I don't know. I mean does it does it seem weird to you or am I not being open minded about this Mike?
Maybe you're not being open minded. I really now that you tell me the medical what's going on you're not even gaming the system. You're just redirecting what's already going to happen. You know what I mean? You're not stopping what's going to happen. But that's the thing is they say that if you don't or if you don't ejaculate then you don't have a recharge. So what it just goes back to the storage unit and is like hey we're good to go again later. It goes back to the storage unit.
I mean I don't know. I always thought that was a one way street and you couldn't go you know you couldn't pull a u-turn on it. Well yeah and I thought you know some things are egg is it only but you got all kinds of crazy drivers right? And then step five is you have your first non-ejaculatory orgasm. You still might have some leakage or squirt but no recovery time which is important and emphasized so that you can have more orgasms. I see. So but that's what I don't understand.
If you're forcing it to not come out is that what dictates the recovery time? What if you just like produce a lot of semen and every time you ejaculate you only ejaculate half of it out. Does that mean you can have a second one right away even if you don't stop any coming out? Like I didn't think it was. None of this makes any sense to me so far. I'm not going to tell a lie. You tell me Mike. You tell me what's going on.
You know what I didn't know that there were so many roundabouts in the organ region. Yeah I mean I guess from a thing separating out the orgasm from ejaculation that makes sense if you can train your body to orgasm without ejaculating that's one thing. If basically you're working out a muscle to forcibly stop your semen or urine or poop right?
I mean you could train anything to squeeze hard enough to stop anything and you could say well I've never pooped I haven't pooped this whole year because I trained my sphincter to be so tight I've just I've got it all backed up in there. I don't think that's possible but that's. It's just an analogy to kind of. Sure. Like I'm struggling with it because if you could separate out the two processes without having to work out your PC muscle and be able to squeeze it so hard to stop ejaculation.
I don't know what to tell you Nate. I do know that I need to take my wrapper off my cigar. Are you that far? I am about halfway. I'm about halfway as well. The first inch or so of this cigar I was getting a lot of acetone and then after the first inch it started to smooth out and now it's really full bodied and quite good. Yes I like this one. Yeah it is good. The first inch I didn't think was going to I was not looking forward to smoking the rest of it but it turned out.
I didn't have I didn't I didn't have a big enough flavor of that to give me any worry I guess for that but also I think you liked the I think you liked the Oliva Connecticut better than I did because I did. I did I did like the Connecticut more than you did. Yeah I thought it was more rounded than you did. Yes. And that could be humidor differences. It's possible. It could be. It could be personal taste differences as well I suppose.
I mean there's some people that don't like cilantro or it yes it tastes like soap you know and it's medically whatever. So yes. So I don't know I guess I guess I can't really say the multiple male orgasm thing is a myth but I also can't say that it's a fact. I wouldn't call it a myth so much as there's so much work involved that who's going to be able to test it out right. It doesn't seem quite right.
Yeah. I know that in the pornography industry they wipe like gels on their erections to make them not sensitive and they will take extreme amounts of Viagra so they can stay hard for the shoots you know. Yeah. And so it just doesn't make sense if if anybody was going to be into this and do it it would be one of those people at least one professional would try it and show it on screen you know. Yeah. And then like out there scouring the internet. You know what you go you go Google it.
I'm sure there's somebody out there that has a video of them doing just that. Yeah I guess luckily there were no videos and no videos on autoplay when I was at Google. Well you know sorry to not do that on a work computer. So here I am doing my Kegel exercises. All right Mike this is this one's kind of right from have you seen Rob Roy. I have seen Rob Roy.
Okay. Do you remember when the wife after the unfortunate thing happens the wife goes into the lake and is trying to wash stuff out of herself. No. Okay. I haven't seen it for a very long time. So Mike does taking a shower or douching after sex. Do you think that prevents pregnancy. I'm gonna guess no. You would be correct. How about. So this says grinding and dry humping sex motions with clothes on. Does that result in pregnancy. I'm gonna guess no. You are correct. It does not. All right.
How about double begging it. Doubling up on condoms. That's a bad idea. You are correct. How about sex at the pool. You prevent any pregnancy by doing the deed in the pool. I'm gonna guess no. That is correct. And also I've heard. I don't think I've tried it but I've heard you shouldn't have sex underwater anyway because the pressure of the water inside the vagina is not good. I have not heard that one but I have heard that the water does not aid in lubrication.
Yeah. As anybody who's fooled around in the shower would probably also tell you. Yes. Or hot tub. Or whatever you may. Anything that's wet. Every time you engage in vaginal sex can you get pregnant Mike even if it's your first time. Yes. You are correct. What about what if the what if the woman's on top. Yes. Okay you're right. I didn't know I was gonna be on Hollywood Squares tonight. Yeah. This is my episode. You're gonna be on whatever. Alright let's see here. Let's see.
So if if you've got a if you've got a moist vaginal area but the sperm wasn't all the way up in there can the sperm swim up to the vagina. Yes. You are correct. If you have unprotected sex on your period can you get pregnant. Yes. You are correct. Depends on where the ovum is in its cycle. You should have written this article because you know more than that. If you put the condom on wrong should you just flip it around and put it on the right way. No you should get a new condom.
Yeah. How often does that happen. I don't know Nate. I don't know. That's not a problem that I've had recently. Not having enough condoms or putting it on wrong. So yeah. All right we're going to a another list here of myths and facts about sex. So is oral sex safe sex. Define safe. Well that is basically what the the truth of this one is is that oral sex is safer if you choose to engage in sexual activity but you can still get sexually transmitted infections and diseases.
You're certainly less likely to get pregnant. Yes usually. Pretty sure. All right. Can you always tell if someone has a sexually transmitted infection. I want to say yes. No obviously no. It would be nice to say yes. It would make everything a lot easier. All right. How about condoms mean safe sex. Let's say for the not using one but it's not a perfect. It's not a perfect solution is it. It is not.
So it says use of condoms will indeed prevent you from getting a sexually transmitted infection and keep you from getting pregnant only when you use them properly. And then isn't there something where there's some of those I don't know like rashes and things that you can get just. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah there's rashes and if you're shaving in those nether regions obviously you're going to be increase your exposure level. Yeah. How about only men who have sex with men can get HIV.
There wouldn't be any women with AIDS right. Or HIV. That would be true. Yeah. We know that's not the case. So yeah. How about how about the pullout method. That's pretty safe right Mike. Well according to the Bible it works. I don't think that one's true either Nate. No it's not. All right. Now I've got I've got some facts here for our listening pleasure. And this is from Glamour.com. So you know it's. Well we know it's legit. Yeah it's got to be legit.
Well we know it's going to be a lot medically a lot less medically based. So the world's largest recorded penis belongs to a 41 year old New Yorker Jonah Falcon. It's nine point five inches flaccid and 13.5 inches erect. That's pretty impressive. The average male orgasm lasts about six seconds and the average female orgasm lasts about 20 seconds. Are you right handed or left handed Mike? I am right handed.
It says the left testicle usually hangs lower than the right for right handed men and then the opposite is true for lefties. I did not know that. Okay. Here's a fun question for you Mike. Under fingers and vibrators what is the next most often used female masturbator? I don't know. Phone candles. Handles to. Okay. No candles. Candles. Candles. Candles. Okay. I don't know how they could possibly know that. I do not know unless there are an awful lot of truthful people on surveys. All right.
There's a condition known as penile rupture and the most common cause of that is vigorous masturbation. So it basically says if that happens you're doing it wrong. I've never had that issue so there we go. Me either. Some people are really out there living though aren't they? Apparently a better life than me. All right. The average vagina is three to four inches long but can expand by 200% when sexually aroused. All right.
Despite what men claim only 15% have a penis longer than seven inches and only 3% have a penis more than eight inches long. That's interesting. I guess I never thought about it. Yeah. But you know we already said that we're not the kind of men that go and talk about our sex lives really and I don't know that we go around and stand around a lot of other naked men to do our own studies. So you know.
What would be interesting Mike would be if to see a study on you know how humans are getting taller every generation or whatever you know like the Europeans that came over to America were a lot shorter than we were on average.
There's studies that show that but there's also conflicting information to where height and height and weight has changed based on other variables other than timeline you know like different farming techniques get introduced and then people get taller and then things like that. But yes I have seen those studies. Well I'd be curious if the members have a similar chart or not I guess.
I'm going to guess no. I'm going to guess no. If anything it's probably the other way with all the different like fluoride in the water supply and everything right. I don't know about that either. All right so apparently orgasms can lower a woman's risk of heart disease stroke breast cancer and depression. So all around a good thing. Well feeling good is generally good for your body. So there we go. Yes. All right.
This next one is from Coates counseling dot com and this is just a sampling of they've got 50 of these on their site but I only grabbed a couple. Nearly 10 percent of all dreams include sex. So it's not just for teenage boys but for both men and women. Women were more likely to have sex dreams about politicians celebrities or their exes. Well men were more likely to dream about having sex with multiple partners at once. That makes sense. Do you remember your dreams.
Do you androids dream of electric sheep. Sometimes I do and sometimes I don't. I found as I get older I've not been remembering them as often as I used to when I was when I was younger. How about you. I typically remember my dreams if I sleep a long period of time but if I only sleep six hours then I usually do not. OK. So it's largely dependent on the length of sleep that I have.
Or if I wake up in the middle of the night you know because of a loud noise or something crazy like that then I remember. This next one is 3 percent of people have no sexual fantasies at all which is a weird way to say 97 percent of us have sexual fantasies. Is that saying that 3 percent of people are asexual. I thought it was like 1.6 percent were non-binary or something. Yeah it's pretty low. That includes everybody not not just asexuals though. So the note that actually has got to be lower.
I've noticed at least the people who I know who claim to be asexual have sexual partners who they live with anyway. Yeah but the asexual thing isn't that they're that they don't have sexual fantasies. I thought it was that they don't have sexual attraction. Sex. Yeah they don't have sexual attraction but it can still feel good I suppose right. Well I think so. Especially if orgasms will reduce health conditions at least in women.
I think it I think it does too for men but I don't didn't have that on here. I do know that orgasms for men lower your chances of having prostate cancer which is a big killer amongst men. Yes. So. All right this one goes against the popular cliche or the popular stereotype and it says that a headache may actually make you more in the mood. Says migraine sufferers reported higher levels of sexual desire according to the research done by Wake Forest University School of Medicine.
That's interesting. I've heard that an orgasm can release endorphins to the level that your headache goes away. Okay good to know. All right so if you want to have an orgasm especially especially for women here but it's also true for men. You don't need lingerie. You need to keep your socks on during sex.
So it says basically that cold feet can interfere with the ability to get really into sex especially for women and it might be related to some sort of survival mechanism in your body where you know you need to be totally relaxed and anxiety free and cold feet is kind of a big no no if you're trying to survive. Sure. Do people keep their houses cold enough for cold feet nowadays. I don't know we do. I mean but I get cold feet when it's 70 in the house sometimes.
Really well you're like seven feet tall. That's true. Yeah. But blood hasn't been down there for a while. Right exactly. It takes a while for it to circulate. Yeah. Hey good news for the 3 percent of people that have a really big penis. A big penis won't stretch out or ruin a vagina. Okay it says here that there's a popular myth that having too much sex or having sex with a large partner or large toy can stretch out a woman's vagina and or labia resulting in roast beef flaps.
It says that the vaginal canal is a muscle and does not permanently stretch from having accommodated a large penis or toy and it says it bounces back quickly and that the shape and size of labia are unique to each woman and not indicative of her sexual status or history. But I don't know that we're going to convince a lot of the people on the internet of that. That's fascinating. I know one of the best sayings I ever heard was by a firefighter and he said oh what the hell is he saying.
It was a basically came down to you know babies come out of there your penis isn't big enough. Yeah. He was he didn't say it to me he said it to somebody else that we were at a table eating dinner with all men of course. Well yeah. Although I believe it is possible and I'm not a doctor but I believe it is possible in childbirth to tear a lot of those muscles. And so I guess depending on the healing and everything having a baby could influence a little bit I suppose. I am certain that it does.
Yes. All right. Let's talk about the G spot Mike. Oh the G spot. Yes. Is that like the clitoris it doesn't exist. No it's the Google thing. That's where the Google CEO and board meet. So basically this is saying that the G spot is a misnomer because it's not actually a discrete anatomical entity but it's an area of the urethral sponge that's highly sensitive for many people. But they say that bodies and arousal are complex and there's no surefire technique that works for everybody.
So you may have a spot that that you identify as the G spot but it isn't a spot and it's not in the same spot for every person. That makes sense. I would like to make an aside real quick. Yes let's do that. I have about a quarter left of the cigar and it has become very dark and flavorful. There's been a lot of flavor change for me on the cigar. I don't know what yours is like but I have to make note of that.
Into that dark bit I got a bit of that earlier taste you were talking about at the start of the cigar for maybe one or two puffs and I thought oh no but it was just this flavor change shifting into the darker so I concur with you. There we go. There we go. All right so apparently as a society we are talking about sex more but we're having it less. I have consumed media that has claimed that Gen Z is the lowest sexed generation in American history and I don't know if that's true or not obviously.
Yeah. That's what they're claiming. And that's what they're claiming. I don't know how they could possibly know that but. I don't know. I don't know how anybody knows anything about a lot of this stuff. Right. A lot of random surveys I guess but you'd have to blanket. I mean I don't think I've ever gotten a sex survey but you would think there'd be enough people that wouldn't answer it. I have never been a part of any survey so.
Yeah. Not even the rate your satisfaction at the bowling lanes or something? No. Never even one of those. Oh okay. They don't ask people like me that. And you mentioned it not me. So there fucker. There we go. So this one is and this one here unlike the book we talked about recently this says this is definitely a correlation but not causation. The average person's sexual peak is the same age they can rent a car which is about 25 according to the study.
So you'll have your most sex around age 25 and that's about that. People in their 20s have sex more than 80 times per year. 45 by age 45 it's down to 60 times per year and by 65 it's 20 times per year. Okay well that was not the case for me but I spent my 20s working. Yes. Lots of working. And that was not the case for me because I spent my high school years in the Boy Scouts. Just kidding.
Okay so we were talking a little bit about penis sizes and you know about the male orgasms and things like that but I think this one here now is when it comes to pleasure the girth is more important than the length according to women I guess. I have heard that before. And I think if you know how to work it that's probably also helps. Sure. So this one I think is true I think. So it says here the only thing that fancy condoms turn on is your credit card.
So the ribbed condoms which totally don't taste like ribs by the way they're more marketing magic than sex magic. So this doctor or somebody is saying that the condoms with the little bumps and ticklers and ridges don't really do anything. Don't those condoms only come out of vending machines and shady bathrooms nowadays? You can get a box of the Trojan Ribbed. I haven't looked for those ever so I guess maybe they are sold.
Well they've got some that come pre-lubed or with spermicide or they've got a few different varieties. Sure. I know they have the magnums that claim to be bigger for the guys who have large penis and they're just regular sized condoms but they charge a little bit more and make everybody feel better. I had a conversation with somebody about this and I'm not going to mention their name but we know who they are. Both of us know this person.
And I watched a video of a lady who said basically she was saying wear a condom no matter what and she was making fun of the guys that say their penis is too big to fit a condom on their penis. Apparently that was a thing at one time. And so she took a condom out of a wrapper and it was a black lady with a shaved head and she took the condom and put it around her whole head without ripping it.
And then this person said oh you can't do that so I took a condom and my hair was about an inch long at the time and I put it around my head and it ripped a little bit on my hair. If it would have been smooth I could have put it around my head too. I thought there was a whole bunch of videos in the 2000s of people putting condoms on their head and like blowing and inflating them so they would shoot off their head. Oh maybe. I don't know. I've seen balloon animals made out of condoms for sure.
So here it comes back to what we talked about at the top. Men can orgasm without ejaculating. So it says well ejaculation generally does coincide with an orgasm. The two actually occur in rapid succession.
And this is the person who wrote the book Living in Orgasmic Life who's a sex educator and author and he claims or she claims that men can learn to differentiate between the two and have orgasms without ejaculating which I guess men can have that because there are some medical conditions that would prevent you from doing so. But again I don't know that it's a full on blanket statement like you can learn to do it. Maybe. I'm guessing it's not like arithmetic. Yeah probably not.
Okay and this this last one here and I like to point these things out because it really feels in our society anyway that a lot of things afflicting men whether it be you know depression or let's say prostate cancer or testicular cancer or anything else to do just with men is kind of swept under the rug in the societal discourse. So this last one here is men suffer from low libido just as much as women do.
They said that this this doctor here says that in practice the number of couples complaining of low sex sexual desire is about equal. Interesting. So that is that. I wonder how much of that is situational. I guess I don't know. That would be. How do you mean? You know not low sexual desire necessarily but I can tell you when I got a lot of crap going on sex is just not in my not in my list of priorities you know.
Yeah well I think it's the same as women you know if you're not in the mood you're not in the mood and there's a big thing where you know men are in let's say media movies and things men are always eager and ready to go at the drop of a hat and I just don't think that that's true. I mean I know it's not true but.
Right. You know I mean I personally know it's not true if I got a lot of shit going on at work and a lot of other shit going on at home I'm focused on that and the stress of that just kind of takes over I guess. Yeah and you know unfortunately men can feel bloated too and if I don't get enough you know I mean honestly you know I mean if any excuse a woman makes I mean not really excuse but any reason a woman makes a man can make just as easily you know and it should be just as valid.
It is just as valid from my perspective but we're also not. Mine too. We've talked about this before a lot of these societal things we have going on with sex are really single dating people things who are engaging in risky behaviors it's not like people who are in committed long term relationships or in any sort of stable environment they're doing things that are generally not safe. Yes. And I would consider online dating to be one of those things.
If you're meeting with strangers it's not you're not engaging in a safe behavior you are engaging in a dangerous behavior. So not that I think I think online dating in itself with the intent of being dating is fine. The online hookup stuff not fine.
I mean online dating is is it's more it's different than going to your gym a bar a library out on the streets and trying to date someone because at least everybody on the online dating platform wants to date but that doesn't mean that these people aren't dangerous or you know have weird unsafe desires and things like that. So you always have to be whether you're whenever you're meeting somebody you don't know you always have to be extra safe. Right I'm fine with any.
I'm OK with anything anybody wants to do but acknowledging that it's not a hundred percent safe activity. Yeah exactly. Yeah. But I'm fine with you know if you want an online date that's great if you want to hookup culture that's great. But even if you're going with the intent of like being in a relationship it's still risky meeting somebody you don't know or have met before who's not part of your normal social circle.
At least when you're part of your normal social circle with heavy air quotes there's a lot of social pressure to not to behave in a way that's correct. Right. Where it's not necessarily the case if it's somebody that you don't know and nobody you know knows them either. You know even a blind date with somebody that your friend knows is they're going to behave in a way that's socially acceptable most likely because they know somebody you know.
Yes. But if if everybody followed that logic there would be no movie Titanic because Rose was not in his social circles. No. And that's why she allowed him to just drown to death. That's why the ship sink. It was their punishment. That's right. God. That is right. That is right. So basically if you don't want to get pregnant or have your partner get pregnant either don't have sex or at the very bare minimum use a condom which would be not the bare minimum. Ha ha ha.
Use some method of birth control which I'm guessing all of the people who are listening are already aware of. But but there we are not. There are all sorts of birth control and protection for sex that you can find out from yourself by yourself in the comfort of your own home on your company's work computer. Ha ha ha. Or on your subordinate's office just by Googling or you could talk to a doctor or some other sort of professional because Mike and I are neither of those things.
I mean we might be your co-worker I guess but probably not. It's possible. Did I ever tell you when I got hooked up with my work phone and laptop years ago. I do not believe so. So this was a while ago and the person who set me up with my phone and laptop at that time said multiple times probably five times do not look at pornography on your work phone and or laptop like five times. And it was a tech person who was a woman.
And I looked at her and it's probably the third time not the fifth time because it happened after I said it. Is this really a problem that people are looking up at like inappropriate things on their work stuff. And she looked at me and she said you would be shocked at the number of people looking at pornography on their work phone and or laptop. I'm like oh my God. What the hell is wrong with people. She said it's mostly guys in their 50s. This was OK. Now they'd be closer to 60.
Let's put it that way. But it's like these older guys that are not with it with technology probably didn't have a smartphone I'm guessing. Yeah they're probably their first smartphone their first internet device you know. Right. Which to me is just incredible. I know a lot of big organizations the one that I work for they have their own list of sites you can't can't visit. And a lot of them dealing with like motion pictures or movies are restricted.
You can't like I can't go to IMDb dot com on my work. Oh sure. But you can go to YouTube and watch whatever you want on YouTube. But you can't go to IMDb to learn about movies. So not that you're really learning about movies but you know what I mean if you want to know who the actor is. But you can go on Wikipedia and look up any number of things there. But I've never looked at that kind of material on any kind of work device because that would be insane to do.
Right. So for what I understand at least for my work laptop and phone there's no restriction at all. But OK I'm guessing there's an alert that would be sent if I were doing something inappropriate. So yeah I mean I guess it might be an alert or maybe they run an audit monthly or something of you know the cash or something. Oh sure. You know the cash images or something.
I know I don't know but I know there's a lot of things you can you can set up on like your router at home to restrict certain devices from going certain places and things or just any device connected to your thing. And I think that that's a little less necessary now at least at the router level because most phones have no issue accessing the Internet anymore.
So you'd have to if you wanted to restrict like family members and things you'd have to do a router one and then you'd have to figure out with your carrier provider how to restrict like all phones have like child plans and things. So I'm sure you could restrict any device on your plan that you wanted to. But right.
I mean I don't have children as you know but I did look up this is a while ago when my nieces and nephews are younger and Zuckerberg has children and his kids had flip phones until they were well into their teenage years. He did not allow them to have smartphones at all. Didn't want them to have smartphones. It's like well so this guy who was a billionaire who's a tech guy. Selling everybody's data. Yeah from selling everybody's data is like no no no. His kids data to be sold.
Yeah he doesn't want his kids have access to the Internet. He wants them to have access to telephones you know. My brother his oldest kid one of them he had his son get a what is it iPod and the iPod had Wi-Fi and he can make cell phone calls off of that at like the movie theater or whatever because everybody says Wi-Fi now. And that's what he did. So that seemed to be effective too. I was like oh that's weird but it worked. Yeah yeah yeah I think I'd rather go the phone route.
I don't mind being able to I don't know we haven't come to that because our oldest is only three. So right. But I know I didn't get a phone. Well I mean phones weren't really a thing until I got into high school. You know like my grandpa I remember my grandpa had a phone for his car for his business but they were car phones. They weren't really nobody really called them cell phones.
They were in a little like briefcase and they went into the the you know the cigarette lighter outlet thing and that's how they powered. But they weren't really termed a cell phone and it wasn't really something you could just carry with you because it had to be powered from the car. It didn't have a battery I don't think. So no I had it had a adapter that plug into a cigarette or a wall. They could plug it into the wall too. Yeah yeah.
Yeah. So yeah I mean the first phones that came out were the flip phones. So that's kind of I didn't get one till I went to college. I had the calling cards you know you had to dial like the one eight hundred and then put in your long card number and took 15 minutes to make a call. Yep I had a calling card when I went to college as well. You know had like three hundred eighty minutes and my parents bought it and I literally only used it to call them. Yep yep. And it was a simpler world I guess.
In some in some instances yes. My cigar is literally three eighths of an inch long right now and I'm trying to pop on it. Yeah my is weighed out there. It is. Yeah I'm under an inch for sure. So oh I am beyond burning my fingers. I'm like trying not to burn my mouth. So I'm cashed. It was fantastic towards the end. Yes this is very good. I like it. Yeah the the copy they put out on it which was a limited release and a master blend and supposed to cultivate a blah blah blah with complex flavors.
It actually was really good. So this is a limited release then huh. Yes yeah yeah yeah. So they will release a gen four next year. You can still buy them online and I'm sure that they're still in lounges around the country. So probably. Yes. Well I think the cigar was good. I hope the topic was mildly interesting. If any of our listeners decide to try the multiple male orgasm thing and it works for you with minimal efforts let us know if it takes a lot of effort. We don't care. Exactly. Exactly.
Candles. Apparently candles. Yeah that might help. They said handles. I was like oh handles. Sure there's a lot of handles around. Candles. Yes. Oh yeah. Hey honey why'd you come? Why'd you get different knobs? They look like giant dicks. Handles are the third most. Yeah. So anyway thanks for listening. Be safe have fun.