And you got me with a Biden vs. Trump guessing game, and now I'm going to hit you with a guessing game. Welcome to Nice Ashes. Join hosts Mike and Nate for cigars and culture. Let's go beyond the smoke. What are we smoking today, Nate? We are following up our Chillin' Moose, and we said we'd never smoke another one. But here we are, smoking the Chillin' Moose 2, and that's T -O -O, not T -W -O, and not the letter 2, the number 2, or T -O, or T -U with the little, like, dashy
thing above it. Yeah. Great label, yet again. Great label. Yeah, the moose is pulling a rabbit that's smoking a cigar out of a magic hat. I like it. Yeah, I like the labels. I wish the cigars lived up to the... Graphic design. Maybe this one will. Oh, yeah. Time to light up. Time to light up. So this one is the Maduro version. Yeah. I'm hoping that we'll get a little better experience out of the Maduro. Yeah, the first
few puffs are fine. Nothing exemplary. Yeah, I mean, we've talked about this before where it seems like a Maduro cigar is like dark coffee. You can kind of hide lower quality leaf with a darker cigar blend. So I'm hoping it'll be a little better. I'm hoping so. I hope the acetone taste of the last one kind of progressively got worse or more prominent as we smoked the cigar. I'm hoping we don't have that with this, but we'll see. Time will tell. I am pairing mine
with a Voodoo Ranger IPA. And I'm drinking iced Guatemalan hue hue and some water. Nice. Are you sure it's not Guatemalan he he he? I am sure. I am sure. All right, fine. I was rolling around town today and I saw a bag from a roaster that I know and I love Guatemalan hue hue. Yep. And I fresh ground it and made it. There you go. Yes, the hue hue is good. We get some of that from Costco. They got the big old bags. I like those big old bags. This is not the Costco. Sure.
No, I like it. I think they have Duluth Coffee Company at Costco. They do. That's typically what we get. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah. But there's another one we get. I can't remember what it is now, but the Duluth is good. Very good. Hell yeah. Okay. So this is a Nate Knows and Mike Does Not episode, but we're going to keep things light because we've been getting a little too heavy with some of this stuff. I've felt with
Project 2030 and eating bugs. I don't know, people trying to make documentaries, but not very well. And let's just lighten this thing up a little bit. So we're going to do, and I'm going to send you, Mike, here in just a second in the chat, in our podcast recording here, the list of choices that you are going to have, because this is going to be a guessing game. And you got me with a Biden versus Trump guessing game, and now I'm going to hit you with a guessing game. I copyrighted
that. So I'm going to send you your list of choices. I have 50 questions. We don't have to get through them all. I just thought 50 was a good number. Chances are we're not going to hit all 50. That would be insane. Do you have any ideas what you might be guessing, Mike? I have no idea what we're discussing. All right. This is called Guess the Sin. Guess the sin guessing game. So I'm going to read you a sin, and you're going to
guess the religion. And I've put in the chat now the different religions you can choose from. We've got Christianity, Islam, Jainism, Buddhism, Judaism, Hinduism, Sikhism, Zoroastrianism. Oh, I put Sikhism in there twice. but it's only in there once. But several answers might be that. I don't know, so we'll see. As a disclaimer, I had ChatGTP write me up 50 guessing games with sins, and I went through the first, oh, I don't know, 16, and put the actual quotes from the
religious text. I found through the first 16 of these that the sin was accurate, but sometimes the citation was not. so that it was wrong on maybe the chapter or the verse of some of these things. But I only did the first 16 because who has that much time outside of Matt Walsh to write all this stuff down? Right, right, right. You're not filming yourself opening jars of pickles at home. Yes. Oh, I'm such a strong manly man. I ratcheted this jar top down so my wife would
have to ask me later. Anyway, do you have any concerns before we kick this off? This is supposed to be light and fun. I have no concerns. None at all. I figured you might be a little more versed in some of these other religions than I am. Sure. I mean, I will give you and the listeners fair warning. I'm pretty sure I'm on the same bowling team as the dude right now. There you go. There you go. You don't roll on Shabbos. Don't bowl on Shabbos. Also, for your bingo cards,
you can mark that off. Okay, so the first round here, we're going to do a softball pitch. Maybe. We'll see. You tell me, Mike. You tell me. Greed is seen as distancing one from spiritual fulfillment. Sure. So that has got to be Buddhism, and possibly more than just Buddhism, because I don't know a lot about Jainism. But in early Christianity, that was definitely the case. And Sikhism and Hinduism have elements of that as well. But I'm not sure if it's explicit. Like, it isn't Buddhism.
Yeah. And I guess, you know, to be fair, a lot of these, and we don't have to get into a huge religious debate, but a lot of religions take inspiration, let's say, from other religions. At least that's true of, you know, Christianity and the Bible. And there's multiple stories of... Children being floated down the river who then become the king of said country that they were
picked up in. Oh, yeah. Well, I know that, you know, in my catechism, I found a lot of inspiration from Christ's, not hatred, but contempt for the wealthy and the money changers. Yeah, whipping the bankers and flipping chairs and tables and things. So this one actually is Christianity. Oh, okay. The Bible, Luke 12, 15. Then he said to them, watch out. Be on your guard against all kinds of greed. Life does not consist in an abundance of possessions. Musk, Bezos, are
you listening? I'm going to keep, are you going to keep track of my score? I'm not keeping, I'm not going to keep score. Oh, I'm keeping score. Fuck that. I'm a fun guy. I'm a fun guy over here. I'm drinking my beer, smoking my cigar. We'll see how many you get right. This is not about fun, all right? I knew this would appeal to your male fantasy of winning. Here we go.
Victory at all costs. Yeah. So I only did the first 16 with the quotes from the actual texts because it would take too long to read them all. And in the first 16, we hit all of the major religions that I sent to Mike. So we'll get a sense of their flavor of what their religious texts are. And then going forward, I'll say what it is. And if you're interested in that, you
can look it up later. And I might put this on our Patreon too, just the copy paste of the questions and the answers if we don't get to all 50 of them. So you can check it out there. I might just make it a free tier one. We'll see. Round two, question two. Harming any form of life, even in the tiniest, is a moral offense. Hinduism. This is actually Jainism. Oh, hey. In Jainism, ahimsa, meaning nonviolence or non -harm, is a central ethical principle that guides all actions,
thoughts, and speech. It is considered the cornerstone of Jainism and is a crucial step toward achieving liberation. From the cycle of rebirth. And I don't know anything about Jainism. I know that it's very similar to Hinduism. Okay. It's kind of that Eastern mysticism type of thing. Yeah. I have a book that I'm anxious to read. Not anxious, but I'm excited to read. Why the Buddhists are right or something. Seems interesting. Oh, for
sure. Well, they all cross over too. Yeah. So in that like Indian peninsula, continental India. All those religions kind of mix together. Very interesting. Yeah. And I feel there's a lot of overlap in religions in general about big things. Oh, for sure. I think it's the smaller things they differ on. All right. Third question. Speaking negatively about others behind their backs is condemned. Islam. You are correct. The Quran,
Surah Al -Huwajat 49 .12. Oh, believers, avoid many suspicions, for indeed some suspicions are sinful. And do not spy nor backbite one another. Would any of you like to eat the flesh of their dead brother? You would despise that and fear Allah. Surely Allah is the acceptor of repentance, most merciful. So I also feel like cannibalism is probably not okay with them. Being a hypocrite is not okay with them either. I like that. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I heard it said once where
of all the philosophies. And we can extend that to religions. All the philosophies and religions in the world, no matter what they are, each one of them has at least one kind of like golden nugget to take away from. Oh, okay. I would agree with that. Yeah. You don't have to fully agree with everything, but, you know, you read, you know, and the Stoics say to read things that you don't agree with because that's the only
way you can grow. But in those things you think you don't agree with, you might find something you do agree with or something that really does resonate with you. So I just wanted to put that out there because we're looking at a bunch of different religions and I'm an atheist. But some of these things, I mean, there's really good tenants in a lot of these religions. Oh, for
sure. And that's kind of like the Jordan Peterson thing where like the religious stories, you know, allegorically they're true and very interesting psychologically to analyze the ancient religions. Yeah. And there's a lot of crossover. Passed down or orally, you know, and an interesting historical insight. Yep. Absolutely. All right. Number four. I guess I'm fucked in this religion. Consuming alcohol is discouraged as it clouds
moral judgment. Islam. This is Buddhism. I'm going to try to pronounce this and I'm sorry. The Dhammapada verse 22, sorry, verse 246 to 247. He who destroys life, tells lies, takes what is not given him, commits adultery, and takes intoxicating drinks, digs up his own roots, even in this very life. Interesting. Yeah, Islam bans drinking also. That quote has a lot more than just the drinking, but... Yeah, yeah. All right, you're still keeping score, Mike? Yes,
I am. All right, I'll check in with you every 10. Question five. Wanting what belongs to others is considered sinful. That is... Christianity, Judaism, and Islam. Well, give yourself a point. This is Judaism. This example comes from the Torah, Exodus 20 .14. You shall not covet your neighbor's house, you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, his manservant, his maidservant, his ox, his donkey, or whatever belongs to your neighbor.
So I feel like that is a lot more progressive than the New Testament and the Bible saying you shouldn't cover his manservant or maidservant. you know, whatever you feel attracted to, I guess, right? I'm trying to keep this episode light. It's supposed to be a fun thing, and we'll see how good Mike does. It is fun. It's way more progressive. It's fun and educational, I think.
And it's funny because I talk to Simha a lot, and, you know, we both grew up Christian, and he's now, you know, a Jew, and I'm an atheist, but we talk about a lot of this stuff. He likes to make fun of the Christians as I do because we both grew up that. And we were just talking today about, you know, the New Testament and some of the weird shit in there. And the Jews
don't believe in the New Testament. You know, they have the Torah and that's kind of sort of the Old Testament, you know, but they have a different translation, of course. So it's very interesting stuff, I think, if you have an open mind. I agree. All right. Question six. Excessive pride leads to spiritual ruin. Christianity. Ding, ding, ding. Proverbs 16, 18, pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a
fall. Tell you what, I'd be down for seeing a lot more of the prideful in modern day America fall. Yeah, I remember that one too, explicitly from my catechism reading the Bible. Yes. I, you know, having read the Bible, all these large portions of it, not all of it, all of it. Yeah. I should read all of it. I did find it inspirational and intuitive or just similar to reading mythology, Greek mythology and other old tales. Like they
were informative and entertaining. Well, I mean, that's kind of the thing is if you read the Bible and you. read it from the sense that you understand people take everything in there literally, it's a horrifying book. Like absolutely horrifying. If you read it in the sense of you would read like Greek mythology, it's fascinating. Right. Greek mythology is horrifying if you take it literally. I think all mythology is probably terrifying if you take it literally. Right. Nordic
mythology is like wild. Yeah. Yeah. So. All right. Question seven. Sexual misconduct is morally wrong and disrupts spiritual growth. Ooh. I mean, no, it's not the Catholics. It's probably, yeah. I mean, God, that sounds like all of them, to be honest with you. I'm going to go Sikhism on this one because we haven't had a Sikhism yet. Okay. But that is a general rule of all religions. Yeah, and there's just enough crossover where most of these could be applied to almost any
of these religions. Which is maybe the point of the episode, but I'm not as heavy -handed as Matt Walsh, so we'll let that be decided by the listener. This one's actually Buddhism. The Pali Canon and the Five Precepts. I undertake the precept to refrain from sexual misconduct. There we go. All right, you're going to get this one, I feel. I'm rooting for you, Mike. Eight, number eight. Use of mind -altering substances is to be avoided. I'll say Islam. Hinduism. Hinduism.
Hinduism. There we go. Yes. Manus Mitri 416. He shall not through desires become addicted to any sensual objects. Excessive addiction to these he shall avoid by mental reflection. There were some other ones. This is one where it was very difficult to try and track down the actual quote. There was other ones about like pharmaceutical drugs, but it was a little bit different. It
was worded differently. And this one. I was reading some of the, this is why it would have taken too long to do all 50 of these, because I was reading through like the explanation of the translations and what the words meant at the time and everything in sensual objects. Today means, you know, like boobs and dicks or whatever, right? And at the time it was anything that like tempted you. So it could be mind altering drugs. And, you know, it talks about addictions and things like that.
Sure. We could really get into the weeds on a lot of these things by trying to break them down. Oh, yeah. Well, that's part of the reason why religious zealots are so moving to people because you can reinterpret and reinterpret and reinterpret. Yeah. Twist it to whatever you want it to be
to an extent. Yes. And the only thing that really matters in terms of if you're trying to live by one of these religions, how the thing that was said, what it meant in the time it was said is what matters, not what it means today through the translation, unless the translation takes into account what it would have meant back then. Because there's, I don't know, a lot of these classics of ancient literature have all been
translated. thousands of times, at least hundreds of times, but sometimes thousands of times, you know. And I always try and look for the widely accepted best translation, you know, who was the one that translated it best, most accurately, whatever. You know, Marcus Aurelius' Meditations is one, like Robert Hayes' translation is widely regarded as being one of the best, if not the
best. But if you read somebody else's translation, and there's reason to read other translations of it because Some translations speak differently to individuals than other translations do. So it's kind of the same thing with a lot of these religious texts because they weren't written in English, except maybe Mormonism is probably the only one that was. But everything else wasn't written in English. So it's all a translation of a translation in a lot of cases. Absolutely.
I mean, the original books of the New Testament were potentially Aramaic. And there's like a couple hundred people on the planet that are native Aramaic speakers. You know, so. Yeah. And they were translated to Greek and then Latin and then English. Yep. And don't get me started on King James. Question nine. Taking what isn't freely given is a sin. Zoroastrianism. Sickism. Like, there we go. So it was tough to kind of find this one because, I mean, you know, taking
what isn't freely given is a sin. Well, that could be Christianity. Don't covet thy neighbor's wife. That sort of thing, you know. But this one here, the actual quote is, if I've committed theft and gained something, I have gained dishonor in this world and the next. So they're pretty against it. Yeah, I like it. Go Seeks. Go Team Seek. Yeah. I know somebody who has a family emerald mind that might not be well -received in Seekism. But anyway, question 10. I don't
mean to be extra salty, but fuck it. It's all fun and games. Yes. Yes. We're supposed to have fun this episode. This is a fun episode. Not that any of them are unfun. Not that any of them are unfun. But, you know, sometimes you got to lighten the mood a little bit. Yeah, you'll have less editing for this episode. God, I hope so. Allah, I hope so. Flying spaghetti monster, I hope so. All right. Question 10, and then we're going to do a score check and a cigar check.
Breaking a solemn vow is a severe moral fault. Ooh. It's got to be Zoroastrianism, because I think that's the only one that we haven't covered. You said. You would be right. Yeah. So, this is Zorian Astronism, Zoroastrianism, the Avesta, Farguard 18. But I have like 27 on the quote here, so. You know, figure it out. May herds of oxen and sons accrue to thee. May thy mind be a master of its vow. May the soul be a master of its vow. And mayest thou live on in the joy
of thy soul all the nights of thy life. That is some old -timey religious talk right there. Yeah, and this makes me realize I have no idea what the fuck Zoroastrianism is. I know the basic outline of it. Oh, well, all right. I do. I know the basic outline of it. It's a dead religion. Well, it's not a dead religion, but there's not a lot of people like the Muslims. First the Christians, then the Muslims have persecuted them for the last 1 ,000 years, 2 ,000 years. So not many
of them left. Most of them converted. What is religion without persecuting? Well, right. I mean, honestly, if you're going to be religious, you might as well persecute a couple people. You got to. If you're not going to be burning witches at the stake. It's right there in the name. You got to do it. Yeah, I mean, I like barbecue. I also like bonfires. There you go. All right, where are you at score -wise, Mike? I am at a pathetic four, and that is including
two half points. Well, that's okay. I would score really poorly in this one, I think. That's why I'm asking you these questions. Yeah, well, you know, I think I see a trend. I think I see a trend. Okay. I'm not going to spoil it for the viewer if they haven't noticed the trend yet, but I'm feeling a trend. Okay. Well, you know, that's good. Get your head in the game, and we'll see if that pays off. What do you think about the cigar, Mike? It's better than the last one.
It's better than the last one. It's spicier. Yep. The spice didn't kick in until about, I don't know, an inch in, though. And that's fine. That's true. That's true. That spiciness has largely covered up the acetone that it started off with, in my opinion. So it's better. I still say it is darker, it is spicier, and it's still just a bin cigar, in my opinion. I'm not overly thrilled with it. But I do like it better than the last one for what it's worth. All right.
Mike has a strategy in mind, and that's a beautiful thing. We've got more questions to get through. We'll see if that strategy pays off. Question 11. Indulging in envy disrupts inner peace and divine connection. Ooh. Missy Jane -ism. You would be wrong. This is Christianity, James 3 .16. For where you have envy and selfish ambition, there you find disorder and every evil practice. Now, here's a question for you, Nate. Now that we have the exact, no doubt, King James Version
read off. Yes. The Witch Hunter General or whatever. I find it interesting that that is in Christianity because I'm pretty sure there's elements of that in Buddhism. and Hinduism, and probably Sikhism. Well, I mean, that's the whole thing. So what I wanted to do was find all the weirdest sins, like the fucking strangest ones, man. And I just wasn't having any luck with that. They were all
like Christian sins, right, from the Bible. I couldn't find like really bizarre sins from other religions, so it would have been a terrible guessing game. Well, yeah, and the weird ones are well known. Yeah. No eating beef, but you can eat buffalo. You can't eat cattle. Don't plant two crops in the same field. Don't wear clothing of two different materials. Don't, you know, like all of these things, you know, and they're
all mostly from the Bible. And you could, you know, extrapolate that to some other religions perhaps. But, like, you'd have to almost have, like, a PhD in all these other religions to find out the weirdest, like, things. And it wasn't a quick, you know, research trip down the Google lane or whatever. So that's why it kind of changed into, like, guess the sin guessing game instead of these are some fucking weird sins. Guess what they're from. And then you could just guess Christianity
and be right every single time. But again, we said this at the top of the episode, like a lot of these religions have more overlap than followers of these religions oftentimes will admit to. And that is fun for our episode and should be fun in real life. But I guess it's, you know, served in most cases to drive a wedge between a lot of these people, hence the persecution.
Maybe that's the point of the episode is we can have fun and say, you know, this could actually apply to a lot of these different religions because we have a moderate understanding of these other religions and their basic tenets and principles. And this would fit most of them, if not all of them. So did I do the Matt Walsh thing and went too heavy handed with that, Mike? No, I don't think so. You could be attacking me and trying to get me to say something really stupid. No,
I'm not trying to attack you. No, obviously not. Why won't you pay the black man? We have a black man right here. Why won't you pay him? Go get your white woman purse and pay the black man. Why won't you say that you love Islam? Zoroaster was the greatest. Why would you not admit this? I thought Zoroaster was the little machine Tom Hanks went to in Big. There we go. Zoltran. Sorry, everybody. Late episode, I said. All right. I think you're going to get this one, Mike. You're
going to get this one. I believe in you. Question 12. Lying is a violation of sacred speech. Oh. I'm going to go Sikhism. That seems like it'll work. It will not, Mike. It will not. This is... Oh, there we go. Yeah, good times. This is Buddhism, the polycanon right speech. And what is right speech? Abstaining from lying, from divisive speech, from abusive speech, and from idle chatter. This is called right speech. There go all of our news media outlets, Mike. They're all gone.
I was going to say, that sounds like some 1984 shit right there. Yep. Question 13. Wastefulness is frowned upon as it disrespects creation. Ooh. I'm going to go Jainism. Got to go back to the Jainism. All right. All right. This is Islam. The Quran. Surah Al -Araf, 731. Oh, children of Adam, dress properly wherever you are at worship. Eat and drink, but do not waste. Surely he does not like the wasteful. I feel like that... That's another one of those. I think I'm sensing a trend
here, Nate. The trend is there's a lot more in common than there is in difference. Surely not. Surely not. No, they all hate each other, of course. Right. Okay, this next one, I feel like this is like the underhand pitch of the wiffle ball in gym class. Because the girl that likes you is tossing you the ball that you can hit with your bat. So you can get like a home run,
okay? I want you to pay attention to the words I'm about to use, obviously, because that's how you're going to know I'm asking you a question, right? Sure. Listen to the words coming out of my mouth so you know how to answer the words coming out of my mouth. Okay, question 14. Cheating others in business is a sin. Oh, I know what it's not. I'm not going to say it. I'm not going to say it. You almost had me. It's going to be another hot takes, and I'm not going to do it.
I'm going to say Zoroastrianism. Got to go for an old boy Zoro. Come on, man. Do you need to phone a friend? Do you want to re -guess? I'm going to say Judaism. You'd be right. Judaism, the Torah, Leviticus 19, 35 through 36. So the problem with Judaism and Christianity is... They use the same books for, you know, at least half of their religious texts. The interpretations might be different, and they have different supplemental
texts. There's a lot of crossover, and Islam is the same, because Islam uses the Torah also. Yeah. Parts of it or whatever. I'm not 100 % sure. Yeah, they're all very similar, and Christianity uses the New Testament, which Judaism doesn't. Islam uses the prophet Muhammad instead of Jesus, I believe. But I believe, and I might be wrong, that Jesus makes an appearance in the Quran, but is merely a prophet instead of the literal son of God. Yes. And they also consider the New
Testament to be corrupted. And I think they consider the Torah partially corrupted. Yep. Half -y, half -y, I guess. Half true, half not. I'm not 100 % sure about that. Yeah, I don't know the percentages, how they shake out. But I know there's a lot of crossover, like you said, and they all have kind of differing opinions past the Old Testament. Let's just say that. Yes. So this one is Judaism, Leviticus. You shall do no wrong in judgment in measure of length or weight or
quantity. You shall have just balances, just weights, a just... I added that last bit, but you know. I think a lot of the rules in the Old Testament are amongst Jews only. Leviticus for sure is Judaism only, I believe, because that's where you don't lay with a woman who is bleeding. You don't eat pork. You do no work on the Sabbath, that sort of thing. They're almost rules specific
to Jews. Yes. From my understanding. And I actually had an interesting conversation with Simha about this, where I was basically saying like, you know, like Leviticus and all that applies to Jews. And it's really kind of more anthropologically speaking, like passing on medical advice. for healthy living advice. Because at that time, you know, eating pork or doing this or the other
thing, or they didn't understand germs. And so like laying with somebody who's bleeding is probably a bad idea if you don't know what you're doing, right? You don't have modern medicine and stuff like that. And he kind of came back and said, you know, that's all fine and good, but we don't
do it because of that. Like we don't do it necessarily because we... believe this or that or the other thing like we believe that you know like you can eat clean pork nowadays but that's not why we're kosher uh we're kosher because that's what god asked us to do and we're just doing it because he asked us and i was like well that's an easy way to look at it well yeah that's true now for sure i mean well yeah and i like like i that's not a slight i just mean like that was a very
interesting um perspective that i'd never considered before you know like you know i just an eye -opening thing for me as an atheist and Like, why would I do something the man in the sky wants, you know? Right, not cheating your customers is probably a healthy practice for your society. Especially if it was an issue previous to moving away from Egypt, let's say, right? Like, if your society picked up bad habits from the Egyptians, probably wise to clean up some of those bad business practices,
you know? Well, yeah. And a lot of, what is it, Islam or the Muslims? Still cut off a hand if you steal. In some countries, supposedly. In some countries, yeah. So, yeah, very interesting stuff. Okay, question 15. Malice towards others is spiritually destructive. Buddhism. This one is Sikhism. Terrible scheme. So close, so close. Terrible scheme. Almost like you're not a believer, Mike. It's almost like they're all the same.
I mean... It's almost like they're all ambiguous enough that it could almost be any one of these things. Yeah, this one I couldn't find, but it says it's the Guru Granth Sahib. He is the Lisan Madib, 1374, allegedly. So again, some of these religions, if they're not Christianity or Judaism or Buddhism or Islam. It's very difficult to find the actual texts, at least, on English Google. Right, yeah. There's no need. It's a very niche thing. It's difficult. That's why I couldn't
do all of them. And this next one here, question 16, is the last one I actually looked up the stuff. But I'll tell you all the things, and I'll post this on our Patreon for free. So if you want to look these up and check them out, that's on you. And that's good. I mean, that's the whole point. Well, not the whole point. The whole point is to have fun. But the other point is, if some of these things speak to you, then
check it out. Maybe there's something in these other religions or philosophies or however you want to view them that might... be applicable to your life or something you might take away and say, hey, that's kind of a neat idea. I've never thought of that before. All right, question 16. You're going to get this one. I know you will. I believe in you. Selfishness weakens one connection to the divine. Buddhism. So close. So close. Jainism. Even not closer, further.
Zoroastrianism. This is Hinduism. Hinduism. This is the... Bhagavad Gita 316. O Parth, those who do not accept their responsibility in the cycle of sacrifice established by the Vedas are sinful. They live only for the delight of their senses. Indeed, their lives are in vain. There we go. Yes. Well, and I know we've talked previously about Ayn Rand and how I was a huge follower of Ayn Rand for a bit. And her thing was selfishness
is awesome and the best thing in the world. And the one thing, and again, so like at the beginning of the episode, we were talking about, you know, every philosophy or religion has at least one good thing you can take away from it, hopefully. And the thing I took away from objectivism, Ayn Rand's philosophy. was don't accept unearned guilt, which is huge with mother -in -laws, with mothers. Family is huge on that. They love to try and saddle you with guilt that you actually
didn't earn. And these DEI people want to saddle you with stuff that's unearned. So, you know. Yeah. It's very strange, the obsession with inherited guilt going on in our society right now. Yeah. And, you know, that was one of the things. And we didn't talk about it last episode, but the PhD student was talking about like the self and the shadow self. And the shadow self is the one that's like a descendant of the slave owners of all white people. Because, of course, all
white people own slaves. All white people were wealthy enough at the time to own slaves. It wasn't just the rich elite. Heavy sarcasm. All right. Question 17. I'm excited for you, Mike. Betrayal of trust is a moral wrongdoing. Zoroastrianism. And you nailed it, just like I knew you would. I think it was because of the language used. Those are our astronisms. They're pretty old -timey. Yep, they do like that. This is the Vesta
Venidad 4, allegedly. Allegedly. Question 18. Again, like I said, I only fact -checked the first 16. 18. Harboring ill will is a spiritual hindrance. I'm going to go Buddhism. We haven't had Buddhism in a while. Yeah, man, and you fucking nailed it. Anything that is centered around that Indian peninsula, they're all there. They have similar language and similar concepts, which is why they get along so well. Ha ha ha. Yes.
Yes. No wars ever. No wars ever. So harboring ill wills, spiritual hindrance, that's Buddhism. And it is the Dhammapada, verse 5. 19. Impurity in thought is as sinful as action. Oh. I'm split. I'm into Christianity. And you would be right, Mike. Catholic guilt. Catholic guilt. I knew, I knew. This is Matthew 5, 28. I always remember my grandfather made a comment that the newspaper delivery girl was attractive. Sure. Not necessarily inappropriately. He just made mention of it.
And she was a teenager. Not like driving a car teenager. And my grandmother went off on him. And they were in their 70s. It's like a passing comment. And she lost her cool. And said he was going to go to hell. She might not be wrong. Well, he was definitely going to go to hell. But I don't know what it was for saying the newspaper girl was cute. Not for that, but you know. I
don't know. I don't know, man. There were some other old people that I saw quoted somewhere, and one of them said that they didn't care where the other got their appetite as long as they ate at home. Yep. Which I think is fair. I think that's pretty reasonable. Yes. Of course, there's a lot more than physical appearances that go into attraction, or should be. Number 20, and then we'll do a score check, Mike. I've lost count now. I stopped counting because I got so
many wrong. No, but you got just a couple right. You just got a couple right. I boosted my score. Yeah. Yep. Huzzah. It's a real feather in your cap. All right. Boasting about good deeds diminishes their value. Well, I know that's the case in Christianity. I'm not sure if those exact words are true in Christianity. Okay. I'm going to go with Jainism. We haven't had a good Jainism in a while, so I'm going to shoot from the hip. All right. This one is Islam. The Quran. Surah
Al -Baqarah 264. So I don't know why everybody was claiming credit after 9 -11 then, but that's none of my business. All right. So you don't have a... Sips tea silently. So you don't really have a score check then? No, no, no. How much of your cigar do you have left, Mike? Maybe an inch and a half. Maybe an inch. I'm about the same. So we can do... Mine's getting sour. Mine's getting sour. I'm not going to tell you. It's not great. It's not great. Do you think we can
get to 30? Sure, yeah. We can give it a shot. And then I'll put the whole list on our Patreon for free. You can just go look it up. All right. 21. Killing any living being intentionally or not is sinful. I'm going to have to go. Well, Jainism is any living creature. So it's probably not that. I'm going to say Hinduism. You should have gone with your gut, Mike. It's Jainism? It's Jainism. I know. I almost said when you guessed the last one is Jainism. I was like,
oh, you're one early. But I didn't want to say that because that would give the next one away, right? My clock is off. Yep. Here, and I set all my clocks right away when we sprung forward. Does anyone know how much you hate it when you see my clocks at my house have been changed? Yeah, that's true. That's true. All right, so that's Jainism. It's Jain Agamas Ahimsa or something.
But yeah, so killing any living being intentional or not is sinful, which also could be Buddhism because they don't step on ants and stuff like that. When you say being, I think of intelligent beings. Well, who's to say ants aren't? They don't pay taxes, dude. That is true. That is true. If you never file taxes, they can't find you. That is also true. If you don't have a social
security number, they also cannot find you. Well, and so if you would have asked me this question, I probably would have guessed Buddhism because I watched the documentary Monk with a Camera. It was very fascinating because it was a photographer who went and converted to Buddhism. And you're not supposed to have anything of your previous life or whatever. And the Buddhist monk said, no, no, you are so good at photography that you need to still do it. But, you know, like a couple
times a year or something. And they actually kept his camera in like a locker and would give it to him. go do his photography stuff. So very interesting. Cause it kind of is a little bit of a dive into Buddhism, but I don't know, also tolerance or something. It's a very interesting film. So if you want to watch something interesting, that's, that's a pretty good one. Have you heard of that one? I have not heard of that one. Yeah. Pretty interesting stuff. Yeah. All right. Uh,
this one will fucking kill you, dude. If you live in a big city, I definitely do. I live in a metropolis. I know you do. I know you do. But I do because I see these fuckers on every fucking street corner. I read some stuff about how most of the beggars on street corners in cities are actually people that have very nice houses in the burbs. And they make $30 ,000, $40 ,000 just by begging at the street corner. And they don't have to go to an office then. And that sounds
pretty good to me. I think you've been watching too much Fox News. Yeah, could be. Could be. This one is withholding charity is considered a transgression. Islam. So, so quick, but it is Judaism. Oh. From the Talmud, Baba Badra 9a, which sounds like a math question. Yes, it does. Dude, what was your answer for the Baba Badra 9a? Oh, fuck, you got that? I did not get that. Yeah, charity is a big part of most of the religions that, for whatever reason - They kind of ignore
nowadays. Yeah, it's just like - You know, all that talk, big talk about being such and such nation. And then, you know, yeah, we don't need universal health care. And yeah, we don't need to take care of the homeless population and figure out what the hell we're going to do about it. I saw someone proposed to make homelessness illegal except for within 500 feet or 500 yards of a church to try and force the churches to make true on their promise. Sure. That's a pretty
big dick move. I like it, though. I like it. I like it. I mean, they're not paying taxes, so let's fucking call them out and make them actually do something. All right, 23. Ignoring sacred rituals is viewed as a moral lapse. We haven't had a Sikhism in a while. I'm going to go straight. Don't do it. Think of the language used. Think of the language used. Hinduism. Go old -timey. Who's the old -timey one? Is that Zoroastrianism? It's going. Going gone. He got
it right. With enough nudging, you will guess the old -timey language of choice. How could he possibly have guessed this one right on the first try? But he did. He did it. It's amazing. All right, question 24. Desecrating nature is a violation of sacred duty. And you can say Teddy Roosevelt, and I would accept it. Yeah, exactly. You know what? John Muir. I'm going to say Hinduism. We got to stay down lower. Hell yeah, and you're right. Rig Veda, 10117. Nailed it. You knew it.
Teddy. He's the biggest Hindu there ever was. I think that's what he said when he, you know, christened Mount Rushmore. Oh, I thought it was Yosemite, but sure. Rushmore too. 25. Failure to meditate or reflect is spiritually harmful. And the word meditate should narrow it down to about one. Yeah. I mean, I say Buddhism. And you'd be right. It's amazing. He's a savant. The Buddha is a machination of the... Pat his belly and collect your gold. ...desire to be
viewed as a fat Asian man. Your river's excited. Yeah, she wants to go outside, so I'm going to go put her outside. She wanted to pat the Buddha belly, and that's what I thought. He's probably out there ready to kick my ass. She was seriously unhappy with somebody. Yes. Okay, so next question. All right, 26. And this one, we know for a fact not one single person in politics, not one single CEO, not one single person in power is a follower of this faith. The sin is speaking without thinking
may harm others' spirits. Christianity. No. Not one single person in power is a follower of this faith. Wow. It's Judaism. I said Christianity first because almost every single elected politician in this country is a Christian. And I said none of them are this religion. And not in a sarcastic way, as like literally none of them are. Well, it's got to be Zoroastrianism then, because all the other guys. No, this is Sikhism, of course.
I mean, what the fuck, Mike? Come on. Oh, there's got to be Sikh politicians, like in England and certainly in India. This country, Mike. This country is probably, you know what? I'm going to Google the show. Take a drink. And find the one mayor in wherever, rural Connecticut. That's a Sikh. Yeah, maybe. There's got to be one guy who's on the city council. Find him or her. One person. Or they or them. Find them right now. All right. So next question. I am going to look
too. Sure. I believe you. Question 27. Greed in food consumption violates balance. That seems like it could be all of them. Yeah, but I mean, think of the wording, man. It's like greed in food consumption. It's such a weird. But it's not as old -timey as some of the other ones. Not that I'm giving you hints. I am going to go with Jainism. We haven't had a good Jainism in a while. And again, your internal clock is off by two. But this one is Islam, the Quran,
Surah Taha, 2081. I don't know. I guess I've never seen an overweight Muslim. What about the Sultan of Agrabah? From Aladdin? Yeah. Well, he loves his daughter, though, which is weird for Muslims. It is fucking not. Don't fight me on this. I know what I'm about. I thought this was going to be a sponsor -friendly show. Holy God. Or holy Allah, whatever. Whatever, dude. I don't care. I thought I stressed fun above all. And if fun is not family friendly, then
fuck off, I guess. I don't know. Well, I hate to say this, Nate, but I have a correction for the show. Okay, okay, okay. We've had two U .S. elected Sikh politicians. One was a U .S. congressman named Dalip Singh Sound, and he was the first Sikh elected to Congress. He was 57 to 63. He's also the first Asian American and the first Indian American to serve in Congress. There you go. And then apparently New Jersey has a Sikh mayor named Ravinder Balia. All right. Well, that's
good. I think that's good. Yeah, yeah. There we go. Apparently Mr. Sound was active until 1973. Okay. And he died. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. It went down to the Sikh Great Beyond. Sikh Hall of Fame. Sikh Hall of Fame. That's the one. This next one you're going to get. I just know it. I just know it. Dishonoring one's parents is a moral fault. Oh, that's got to be Islam. Got to be. It's got the dishonor. There's like a lot of the trigger words. A lot of the trigger
words. This is Christianity. It's one of the Ten Commandments. Well, honor thy father and mother, but that's also Judaism. Yeah, and it's also all of them, but they still fight. This is Exodus 2012. See, there we go. I actually got into a spat, Mike. I don't know if you believe this. This is pre -high school. Yeah, I love authority, and they're great, I guess. I got into a spat with my minister pre -high school. He actually ended up diddling the secretary.
Not a great person. But, you know, his daughter was in my grade and everything. And he was a very engaging preacher because he did one and he like did a flip out of the pulpit, which I'll still remember probably until I die, hopefully. But he still was, you know, like fucking the secretary and whatnot. Anyway, I told him that Jesus sinned because when his parents brought him to the temple. And then they left and he
didn't leave with them. And he hid and stayed with the temple because he wanted to be closer to his actual father, right? And I said, well, Jesus sinned. And the pastor was like, what are you talking about? Jesus is without sin. I said, well, no, like his parents had to come back to find him. And he was talking with the priests and things at the temple. And he was like, well, no, Jesus is the son of God and his father is God. And I said, well, the Bible says we're all
children of God. But we have to obey our earthly mothers and fathers. And aren't Joseph and Mary Jesus' earthly mothers and fathers? And then you know what he did? He fucked the church secretary is what he did. Okay. When you said fondled, I was thinking Ronald McDonald, not like banging secretary. Let's do separate things. Anyway, 29. Exploiting animals. Holy fuck. Should have read this one before right now. Exploiting animals for pleasure is a spiritual offense. I don't
know, man. I don't know. I don't know. Don't tell Morgan. Don't tell Morgan. That sounds like a good idea across the board. Well, it's not Islam. We know that. Oh, man. I'm going to say Hinduism. That can't be Hinduism, though. I told you what it was. Two ago, you made a guess, and I said two from now. You'll be right. Your clock will be right. Yeah. Jainism. That's Jainism. Don't fuck the animals, kids. I don't think that's what it meant originally. I wanted to meet that
so bad. It has to, man. Exploiting animals for pleasure is a spiritual offense. Don't fuck the animals. Don't fuck the livestock. Gack fighting. Or what, riding horses? I don't know. Potentially riding horses, using them as beasts of burden, dog racing. Sure, Mike. Sure. That's what I want it to be about. All right. The 30th question, and I think that's where we're going to end because my cigar is about done and I'm not digging it anymore. Are you good with that, Mike? I'm good.
I'm already done. I just put mine down. Sure. Okay. Well, 30, and then we'll be done. We'll give our final thoughts. Failing to protect the weak is sinful. Ooh. Ooh. Sikhism. They have a big honor culture, so I'm going to guess. And you'd be wrong. Well, you might be right, but this is Hinduism. The Manus Mitri 8118. Very interesting that the Hindus who have a rigid caste system, let's say that exploiting. The
weak is bad or whatever. Yeah. Well, we could say a lot of the same things about, you know, Christians. For sure. A lot of the stuff, you know, Jesus taught is in direct violation, let's say, of current actions by a lot of people that claim to be Christian. Oh, Jesus was a chill cat. Definitely hang with that guy. But his buddies sometimes aren't to my liking. Thanks for the tough crowd. Yeah, I mean, you can't really fault Judas, though, because he gave us the four -day
Easter weekend. So not at all, not bad, 100%. Well, 50 pieces of silver. I mean, it's hard to say no. Yeah, I mean, you know, I'm not gay, but 50 pieces of silver. There's 50 pieces of silver. I'll kiss Jesus in the cheek all day long for that. Blasphemer. Now we're going to get the halal market to sponsor this episode, you know? Well, there's still time. There's still time. We can make amends. We can make amends. Reparations. I'll give them all the cash in my
wallet to make amends. You know what? Right now, I will give them all the cash in my wallet that I have right now. Yes, me too. 100%. Mine is zero because I gave my cash to someone else. Mine is also zero. I thought so, Mike. I thought so. Well, Dan, our drug dealer, is very happy because we gave him all the cash in our wallets. And that's why we had so much fun this episode.
That's right. That's why he gets to wear the brand new NASCAR t -shirts or his girlfriend gets to wear the brand new NASCAR t -shirt now. Yeah. Well, and he's going to save up for a new TV because his wife threw the remote through the old one and can't watch the old NASCAR if you don't have a new TV. So we're all pulling for Dan and his wife, of course, to be less abusive, but small steps. Small steps. Everybody's waiting. Everybody's waiting. He got what he deserved
for making everybody wait. Yeah, I know. Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's the biggest sin of all, right? That's the takeaway from this episode is making other people wait is right out, right out. Everything else we can talk about, but making other people wait, right out. It's garbage. Yeah. So what did you rate this cigar, Mike? I think I rated it a one and a half. If I'm not mistaken. No, 175. That's what I put. Same as the last one. Oh, same as the last one. Yeah. All right.
I'm going to give this one a... I'm just going to give it a 175. And I gave the last one a 1 .5. Because this one was moderately better than the last one. The last one was acetone aftertaste most of the way through. And this one didn't get bad until the end. And then like the end that was in my mouth kind of like started falling apart. So it's not entirely pleasant, but I felt like it was more enjoyable than the last one. So I'd rather smoke this one than the last one.
The reason why I rated it the same is because the middle section was better. Yep. But the end was a little worse for me and the beginning was about the same. So I was like, well. If the ending was better, then it would have been a two, but it just didn't hold up. Yeah, and the end here was, for me, it was better than the last one, and I don't know if I smoked the last one too
fast, or I just, you know. I mean, it's tough to say, really, in the grand scheme of things, tastes and preferences and smoking speeds and all that, but this one was a little bit better than the last one. Like, this one I would actually... not be opposed to smoking again. But the other one, I don't, I would not really be a huge fan of smoking it again. I mean, if we have more of them, I will try it as a tequila cigar, but smoking it straight as is, I likely will not
do again. So that was kind of the difference in mind. Like the Chillin' Moose 2, I could, I could, you know, if somebody's like, oh, I got a whole, I got a bundle of these, let's smoke some. I'd be like, yeah, okay, sure. I'll do it. But yeah, the first one, the Chillin' Moose original OG. I don't know. I'd be hard pressed to do it again. Not as a tequila cigar. I would do it again. Like I say, like go paddle fishing next to the fire on the side of the water. Yeah.
That sort of thing where it's like it's something to smoke when you're doing something else in a dirty environment where it's like you're not going to smoke a fine cigar under those conditions. But you want a cigar that's not a Swisher Sweet. This is exactly what it is. Yeah, but like you said last episode, though, for the price point, there's better things to smoke for as cheap or cheaper. Oh, the edges are a great example. Like you mentioned, the factory smokes, great example.
There's a lot of options out there. Yeah, there's a lot of options, and I guess I just felt like the Chillin' Moose 2 was slightly better than the Chillin' Moose. Everybody's got their own different tastes and preferences, and I'd be hard -pressed personally to smoke a regular Chillin' Moose without tequila. So that's why I rated this one a little bit higher, because this one I could actually smoke as is and be okay about it. I wouldn't necessarily be the happiest person,
but I'd be okay about it. I mean, I would definitely put tequila on both. If I was going to smoke it in an inside place where we have liquor, it's going to have tequila on it for sure. I mean, to be honest, if somebody says, I got a fuck ton of tequila and I got some cigars that may or may not be good, you just want to put tequila on them and smoke them? I mean, I'm down. Let's do it. But that's a different vibe than having a thoughtful conversation in my campfire with
a good smoke. So a little different motive, I guess. Right. Yeah, this is a drink light beer by a campfire and smoke a cigar. Yeah, yep. For sure. So bust out the, what is it, Michelob Ultras. Yep. Or the Natterdays. I think like a Natterday would be a good pairing with this because you got a little bit of the sweetness from the beer and then you got the cigar, which this one was a little bit darker, a little spicy in the, you know, I don't know, one third to the three quarters
mark. I know that's going to be tough for Americans because they don't understand the fractions, but. Yes, three -eighths, three -quarters. Three -eighths is clearly bigger by twice. Yeah, eight is bigger than four. So, yeah, I think that's all I have to say about that cigar. I don't recommend it. Either one, really. No, not really. The labels are cool. They might be fine as tequila cigars. Or, you know, if you just, if you stumble upon them and they're absolutely dirt cheap, like
almost giving them away, that's fine. But there's so many other good cigars for very little cost that are a much better smoke than these. But, you know, again, if they're at a place and you see them and you want to pick one up to try it, it's not necessarily going to be a bad smoke, you know, by and large. But it might not be entirely enjoyable. But yeah, I can't really recommend it. But if you're tempted and want to try it, what are you out? A couple dollars. It's not
a big commitment there, so. You can always put it out, toss it out, throw it out, whatever. I think Mike did better than he thinks he did on the sin guessing game. Again, all of these will be over on our Patreon for free. You just go over there and you can check out all the questions and answers. And yeah, thanks for listening. Be safe, have fun.