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We'll also talk a little bit about the international Pathway program in the NFL, which is also a little bit in interconnected. And here to help us with all of it is the new general manager of the NFL UK, Henry Hodson. Of course, has been with us here for twelve years in Los Angeles before spending time in London with the NFL UK office there. And if you are a follower of the NFL podcast network, you are no

stranger to Hank Handsome. Hank is back here. Whether this looks up, Henry, welcome, Thank you for having me right, sorry to be here. I'm glad to have you make your debut on this podcast, um and excited to chat here because this is so exciting, Like the the International series keeps growing and you know, despite the you know the issues we had that you know, put a pause on it with the COVID season, it's great to kind of see it really flourishing once again. And in a

brand new country. We're going to Germany. So let me just say, as a like literal German in my heritage, both of my mom and dad's side, how do I essentially become bureau chieffl Germany? Can we arrange that? I think it just happened. I think I think just by volunteering this would be great. Um yeah, it's it's it's really. Germany is a market that we've been really focused on over the last five six years and it's grown so much. The fan base there is incredibly passionate. The sport has

played a lot there as well. Um, so it was a natural progression to to have a game in Germany. And and the really cool thing is we went through this bid process last year to try to find, you know, which city should be played in and and three cities kind of emerged as as the ones that wanted to bid for a Munich Frankfort and dustledorff Um and in the end, we really couldn't you know what. The bids were so good that we couldn't separate Munich and Frankfurt.

So we're we're going to be playing games over the next four years in both cities, which is it's amazing. And of course this year it will be the Seattle Seahawks in Tampa Bay Buccaneers playing at the FC Baron Munich Stadium and that will be November Eastern time, and you see it right here on NFL network. How much better to get exactly. Um No, it's really cool. You mentioned you've been working for the last five or six years on the Germany project. How did the interest I think,

how did you learn of the interest? Like, where did it come from? How did you see it? Because I will tell you my wife and I about a year after we got married, UM went to Germany as part of a larger europe trip. And you know, obviously the UM this soccer influence is massive right almost anywhere in Europe, but certainly in Germany. And we were there during the World Cup, which was insane. So we were in Munich and in Berlin and just seeing just the I guess

the passion for sport in general was pretty apparent. How did you see it manifests itself in terms of the NFL. Yeah, I mean I so dating myself a little bit here, but I grew up in the NFL. I guess my first role was when NFL Europe was still around this you were called. By the end of that five out of the six teams were based in Germany. UM, so got to spend a lot of time in Germany. Ryan Fire, Ryan Fire, the Hamburg Seed Levels, Frankfurt Galaxy, et cetera.

We can go through that, UM, but spend a lot of time in Germany. And although you know, I think people towards the end of that the crowds weren't big, there was a there was a lot of support for football. Football is you know people even back then and people probably don't appreciate it, but it is played very widely in Germany UM and I think the influence of the

US military presence there certainly helped grow the sport. And you know, it is played by Germans, but the fact that there was a U. S military presence definitely elevated the sport and made sure that it was seen in

more places. So it was interesting because having been there and then NFL, you'rebended, and the NFL kind of change its strategy I think obviously rightly, from having a developmental league in that market to saying, look, if we're going to export the NFL, let's export the best for all the best product. And so headed to the UK and and obviously we've been playing regular season games there since

two thousand and seven. So then for me, when I came into the role that I mean I'm currently in before I move into that uk GM role that you mentioned, which is international marketing, it was for me it was natural. I knew that there were fans back in Germany. So there were a lot of people who are like, Okay, well look we've got to We've grown a big audience in Germany. It was like, well, they were kind of already there. I'll take some credit, and he was, um

so um. You know, we really put a focus on there. We found the right media partners, we we did everything we could. You know, one of the sort of levels that we like to pull to help grow the sport is, you know, how do we make it more locally relevant and how do we introduce We were very lucky at the time with a few German players in the NFL. Sure, how do we really help grow their profiles? In Germany?

One of them, Sebastian Valma, was on the Patriots, which certainly helped when they're winning a lot, so that that sort of helped them grow their profile. So really it was just about you know, growing the sport, growing the game, and getting it to a point where it wasn't just those kind of laps NFL europe fans who were focused, but we'll bring a whole new generation of fans in as well. And that that that's sort of what we've been able to do over the as I say, the

last sort of let's say six to ten years. Uh and and as I said at the beginning, that then led to a natural progression of you know, we can we can play a game there, and just as of this morning, so we announced you know, munich as the host city for the first game during Super Bowl weeks. Subsequently, a couple of weeks after that, we announced that the Buccaneers We're going to be the whole team. Then today

that the Seahawks are going to be their opponent. And what happened out of that was we we put a registry of interest people could sign up to you know, I'm interested in buying tickets because we can't obviously go on sale. Interesting, you're you're on the thing. I'm interested, So you're not alone. Five more than five hundred thousand people put their email down and said I'm interested in

buying a ticket to this game. And that's just individually, and you know, normally most people are going to want to go with one to Pere. We you know, as they say, we need for this one. So um, you know, the great news is that that game is going to be incredibly popular and people are thrown and it's not just although it helps that Tom Brady and the Buccaneers are coming, of course. This is the excitement around around the game in Germany. Oh my gosh, that is that's amazing.

And then just to kind of relate this back to the origin story that you were talking about and this year's draft mobile, Ringer was of German descent and was one of the great one of the great draft stories. Absolutely. Yeah, it's a part of our International Player Pathway program. The very first year we had it, um, you know, it sort of shocked us. Came from a team called the

Swabish Hall Unicorns in Germany. And he was a unicorn in that he was six ft four and ran I think four three or four years something, four or four or something like that. Um got that opportunity, I mean, really kind of showed that the buzz that can be built around a player during the draft, and the Vikings took a took a took a shot at him in the sixth round that year. Sadly he didn't work out, but you know, he got a bunch of different shots didn't work out with him in the Vikings and then

subsequently with the Bengals. But since then we've we've developed a lot of German players. And in fact, one of those guys yesterday was part of our player Pathway program that's ration for this year with the Colts, Marcel Dabo, and he was he had the incredible athleticism that he showed it the pro day at Arizona exactly. Yeah, that was incredible, incredible athlete. I can't wait to see what he does in his opportunity here. But another you know, kind of going back to which is what you were

talking about, in American football is played in Germany. Still. Um, another guy who was drafted in this class from Central Michigan Bernard Ryman from Austria learned about the game essentially by happenstance. His family had moved to a suburb of Vienna, I believe, and then he essentially just saw these guys playing this game in a field at a park right

club team and then he joined one. Yeah. Absolutely, And you know, there are a lot of stories like the Sebastian Valma, who who obviously mentioned and played in the NFL with the Patriots again found his way to the

sport playing in dustled Off for a youth team. There so a lot what we're trying to do and it's funny literally speaking to Sebastian about this in the last month or two, is how do you kind of remove the element of luck, um, both from discovering the sport, whether that's you know, as a fan and or on TV or whatever, then through playing the sport, how do you create some pathways for kids to be able to play flag football in these in these countries and then

a pathway that could take them, you know, to college to the player pathway program to to to the pros. And we've done that with an NFL academy that we've launched in London, which is bringing kids at a high school level, because really the player Pathway program is very exciting can give these guys like myrself that I just mentioned,

the opportunity at the age of two. But you and I know that really the best time to get these kids is going to be as early as possible, whether it's from a kind of you know, developing their body

standpoint or understanding the sports, etcetera. So certainly, the early we can get them, the better training and coaching we can get them, the more likely they are to have an opportunity in college, whether that's just to play football in college and get a great education in the US, or you know, hopefully to to have that pathway that

takes them all away to the NFL. No, it's a great it's a great point, and that it's really exciting all of the things that the the league and the initiatives that we're doing to to continue to grow the game and to grow you know, those natives of those countries interest in the game and ability to play the game in the NFL level here. Um, it's really cool

to see. Obviously, you know when we talk about the International series, London is still kind of the marquee right, and and with three games this year to at Tottenham Hotspur Stadium and then one back at Wembley with the Jaguars. Who have you know, have been a popular team in London since we started the international series. How have you seen the series grow? You know, from one game in

London to multiple games in London now to three in London? Like, where have you seen the popularity or maybe the biggest areas of growth as we sit now? Yeah, I mean, look, I think it's I think it's across everything. Yeah, it's you know, the first game, I was lucky enough to be in the UK office when we played that first game in London. It was fin actually on the our

friends of Good Morning Football this morning. Um Shawn O'Hara was on the show this morning and he was part of the part of this game there, and we had O Human or who our ambassadors in the UK and works for the BBC and does a terrific job there was on the show as well. And just looking back at those videos and shots of of of that game, it was hard to imagine at that time that this will become something as regular and kind of as as like, of course there are games in London because it took

so much to get to that point. But I think across the board when you see the growth of the fan base in the market, you see how well the NFL is covered by the media in the UK as well. Um, it's just you know, it's it's been exponential growth and and it will will will look to continue that in the coming years with more games, more to do around the sport and um and you know, hopefully delivering more UK athletes to the to the NFL as well. No

doubt Minnesota Vikings in New Orleans. Saints will kick things off in London, so we get all three games in London this year will come in the month of October, so that Viking Saints game from Tottenham Hotspur Stadium will be October two. Again. That's all of these are nine am you stern time kicks and you can see that

one exclusively on NFL Network. That will be followed up the very next week by the Giants and Packers getting together at Tottenham Hotspur that again October nine, m E s Durn here on NFL Network and then the Denver Broncos will take on the Jacksonville Jaguars from Wembley October thirty I am eas during that game can be seen on ESPN plus. I mentioned the Germany game Seahawks and Tampa Bay Bucks at f C Bayern Munich Stadium November

am Eastern right here on NFL Network. And then finally, and we'll get to this here in just a second, but from the studio Esteco once again in Mexico City the San Francisco forty Niners in Arizona Cardinals in a divisional matchup November twenty one, eight p m. Eastern time, that game on ESPN. Um let's just talk about a couple of the some of the cool instances here with

the UK. I mean, there have been teams that, over the course of the international series have somehow or have you know, I have not been a part of the slave. Now we get the Packers, the last one that the full set as all the thirty two helmets are now in London, I mean, is it like a little bit of a sense of satisfaction to get maybe arguably one of the greatest players to ever played the game now

in London. It is, And it would have been frustrating if we'd got the Packers finally and we hadn't hadn't got Aaron Rodgers with them, So so that's that whole thing, That whole thing kame together nicely. But also for them to be playing the Giants, who, as you mentioned, the first team one of the first two teams to play in London, but also you know first and last really well not last, but yeah, you know, really popular team in the UK as well. So I think that's going

to be a terrific game. Um and yeah, as you say, great to have the Packers there finally and for fans to get a chance to see Aaron it's gonna be really cool. Yeah. What goes into figuring out which teams are going to go and be a part of the international series, Yeah, it's so it's it's evolved a lot actually in the last year or so so with the

extra game with the seventeen game of the season. Part of that was a commitment that every team would have to go every eight years and play in an international game, um and so. Um that then flip flops depending on which team has the extra home game, which conference has the game exactly so um this year obviously that meant that NFC clubs were the ones that we're going to be able to to go and play internationally, and it was then a combination of some teams that really wanted

to go. Part of what we've done to grow the game internationally is have teams um be able to market themselves in some of these territories. So they've been able to go and sort of put together a bid to say we are focused on Germany or the UK or Mexico, etcetera, to to grow our brands. And so some teams that are natural affinity to to want to play in these markets and they put their hands up and said we want to go. We you know this is important to us.

For the Packers, it was a case of um, they're not one of the teams that at this point have have signed up for the UK. But it was a case of like, you know, here we go. You're going to have to do at some point the next day years. Whereas before they were able to say no, we're not interested. This was really a chance for us to say, look, let's let's get this done. Let's get you, let's let's

collect the set, let's get you to London. Um. And then for the other side of the matchup, it's about you know, looking at who's on on their slate for that season as a as a visiting team, UM, and then trying to decide, you know, what's the best matchup.

And clearly, you know there are clubs that want to protect games, they want to have games that do get played in their own stadiums, Um, but we were able to to to get I think, um, you know, probably biased here, but I think it's the best across all across all five games, the best slate of international matchups that we've ever had, I would agree. I mean the fact that we're gonna get Tom Brady. You know, we're

gonna get Russell Wilson with the Denver Broncos. Now we're Aaron Rodgers, you get the Saints and Vikings to you know, really explosive offensive teams too, because I think that sells you know a lot Um and Um Lawrence are redubing to Jags team exactly. Yeah. I think, I mean, it's it's a it's a fantastic slay the matchups. And then as you mentioned, for Mexico to have a rivalry game in the NFC is super exciting and well, now you know one thing I have not unfortunately been able to

get to London for one of the games yet. But you know, a lot of the stuff I hear the you know, the the great swath of jerseys that you end up seeing at a London game and in and around the city during the week, And I think that's awesome that you have that many people that are that that can identify with that many teams in one country, Whereas in Mexico City at least, the matchups have felt

more regionally um located. You find that the interest there is still a little bit more regional when it comes to the NFL in terms of Western teams, NFC a f C West teams, that sort of thing. Yeah, I mean, I think the NFL is obviously more established in Mexico. Yeah, it's been. It's been a big sport in there since

the seventies. So you know, the teams that actually resonate the most is funny in other markets, as we've grown recently, the Patriots the team that kind of over index a month fans because you know, a lot of the way that people discover the sport is by watching the Super Bowl their first touch for it. So inevitably they're like, okay, well, let's look like a good team for Mexico. Those teams

are the Steelers and Cowboys. So that tells you kind of the vintage of of fandom in Mexico of sort of seventies eighties, um, when when those teams were obviously, so there's part of that, and then partly definitely regional. You know, it's obviously easy for fans to reach the Cowboys, which he into the Cardinals, the teams in California. So you see a lot of that as well, and we tried to lean into that with the matchups and look that we had a division game. I mean, it just

kind of builds the intensity up. And also a repeat of the very first game played internationally. So in two thousand and five we had the opportunity to take one game internationally. That game was played at a Stadios Techa and it was the Cardinals against the forty nine. Is the cool thing was that? Um? In that game, it was Larry Fitzgerald's rookie season, so you know he was him and Kurt Warner were there, um in Mexico City. Now they are back again, um doing doing their things?

How cool? How cool? Is that? All right? And then um, as you look for further expansion, as I mentioned where

we were getting started. You know, my my dad worked in the NFL for forty years and was a part of a couple of the American Bowl Games, you know, which were preseason games played abroad, and it was you know, it was one in London that he went to with the Saints, Saints and Raiders, and then it was one later in the early part of the two thousands with the now Washington Commanders, get who they played, but it

was in Osaka, Japan. Do you see a potential expansion to the Far East um as as an option for the NFL. I think it's definitely an option. I think it's harder to do with the you know, if we we want to be playing regular season games as opposed to preseason games, I think, you know, what's apparent is that whether it's that or like we mentioned with NFL Europe,

you want to be exporting the real deal. And there was you know, I used to as a kid go to those American ball games in the UK and it was great, be like, hey, the Dolphins are coming, We're gonna see the marina and it's like, wait, where do you go? You know? That lasted like three minutes and

then and then you have someone else playing instead. So I think the difficulty with going that far east to Japan, to China, et cetera, is how do you schedule that in the season, because that it's it's it's a long way for people to go. It's longer from California to the far East that it is from the Eastern Board exactly to learn exactly. So you know that that's that's an issue we've certainly talked about. Could that be done around you know, the beginning of the season. Could you

play a kickoff game, even a week one game. Um? There, I don't think we're there yet. I think, you know, for now, it's about really how do we continue to grow the fan base in the now three markets that we're playing in. Um. But look, I mean expansion to to other markets is certainly something that we're always looking at. How have you noticed player buy in Because it felt like, you know, it was initially maybe there was a little

skepticism or push back. It feels like now, just based on the guys that interviewed on on GMFB this morning, that there is a real, legitimate, true excitement players in doing this. Yeah, I mean right, look, I think people are definitely excited about going there. Inevitably, it's it gets you know. I guess there are two ways of looking at gets you out of your routine through the season. For some players that's not a good thing. They like their routine that oughtn't to be kept in that routine.

For others, the difference that the slight change can be really good. And I know that there are teams you certainly you know you speak to SHAWNA. Harrod. Those guys felt like that year that they went to London two thousand and seven, where they were pretty average team going into that game and then obviously came out and went on a run and ended up in the Super Bowl

against Patriots. They talk about how going to London, spending some time together and kind of a training camp environment was actually a moment that that really kind of was the catalyst for them to get to the Super Bowl. So I think it can go both ways. Typically, what you'll find is that players have had a winning experience there tell you it's fantastic and they loved it. And players that didn't win will tell you, well, it took me out of my routine and and we shouldn't be

doing this. Someone if someone's going to come away with a good experience and someone's probably going to be less excited about it. That's a part of it. And then then lastly, um, as the series relates to the International Player Pathway Program, how has it kind of helped shine a light and kind of help kickstart and really kind of grow the Pathway program getting more players from abroad into the NFL game. Yeah, I mean I think, um, you know, the Pathway program is a fantastic one and

and this certainly helps. We've actually used last year, we used the weekend between the two London games to have an international combine to help identify the guys that wound up being the eleven that was selected to go to the Player Pathway Program that then came down to the four where allocated yesterday. So it definitely helped on that front.

I think the other honestly one of my favorite stories, and it's probably not being particularly well told, but the first year we talked about the Dolphins and Giants playing in London, there was a kid in London named Jermaine Aluminore who switched on the TV and was looking for an arsenal soccer game. Had grown up in the UK

and was like, what's this thing that I'm watching? And he watched that very first London game in two thousand seven, was like, oh wow, this sport is cool, told us that about it, tried to find a team that was playing in London, wound up persuading his dad to move them to New Jersey, ended up getting drafted by the Baltimore Ravens in I don't know what year that was, probably and that was because he watched that game on TV.

So if you're talking about kind of the fairy tale of what does this, you know, what's this actually do? And obviously it's about growing fandom and everything else. But there will be a kid, probably in this year, whether it's the UK or Mexico or Germany, that will watch this game decide that this is something they want to do and find the a pathway, whether it takes them all the way to the NFL or to college or two whatever. That's that's the power of of the exposure

of these games. So I think it's, um it's definitely very powerful thing. That's so cool. Yeah, it's it says here and um, I mean Chuck Farm, England to Lackawanna Junior College to Texas A and M drafted by the Ravens in the fifth round. And then that first year when I'm played back in London, which was a very

crazy event that that the Ravens was elected. I think they played the Jags that year and in his rookie season and has played five years in the league and has been a part of fifty three NFL games, all because he flipped on the TV one day. So that's the That's that's what this is supposed to do. How cool Red lewis here with Henry Hodson getting a chance to chat about the International Series in the International Pathway

Player Pathway program. Uh, it's so cool again. Five games here in this year's International Series that will be played in NFL schedule. We have three games from London, one from Munich, Germany, and one from Mexico City, Mexico. Can't wait for The International Series starts October two Tottenham Hotspur Stadium and then wraps up November twenty one the Studio Stecca in Mexico City. We'll take quick break here in NFL Inside Report when we come back, but a little

Inside Report Trivia International edition. We're gonna test Henry's knowledge of the International Series when we come back, all right back here with you on NFL Inside Report. It's our pleasure now to be with for this episode, a very special episode as we focus it on the International series. With are now the NFL's GM of NFL Europe. Henry

Hodgson is here with us. And Henry, you have exhibited some fantastic knowledge of the International Series and all the international players that have been a part of the NFL as well. We're now going to really put that knowledge to the test. Thanks to Ben McWilliams of our fantastic NFL research team for putting together some tribute questions. Okay, Aaron Rogers will become only the second raining MVP to

play a game in England. Do you know the other rain m v P to do it by process of elimination? It's got to be Tom Brady, right, raining and training? Yes, Adrian Peterson. Okay, so Aaron Rodgers will be the first reigning a VP quarterback to play in England. Second at any position, um and I s got me quickly with Adrian Peterson story in London. So on when the Vikings

played the Steelers that year in London. I happened to be in um Piccatilly Circus, very central London, and you know there a lot of crowds, and when you're going through crowd, you're looking for the you know, trying to get to the I was trying to get to the tube pop. You're looking for a gap, right, you're looking You're looking for the vision to get to the gap. And I was sometimes you get behind somebody're like, oh, they're going in the same direction as me, and they're

pretty good at finding the gap. I was like, Wow, this guy really knows how to find his way through a crowd. Adrian Peterson, Adrian Peterson was my lead fullback through the crowds and picket of the circus. He was complete. No one knew who he was because you know, here he is in London and sent to London. But he was picking his way through the guys. Like this guy really is has someone to follow. And then I was like, is Adrian Peterson would be of course Hall of Fame

worthy vision as a running back for sure? For a for a good story, we do get half a point for a fantastic story. So Rogers will be the first reigning MVP quarterback to playing food with Adrian Peterson having done so as a running back. All right, moving on which quarterback has the most passing yards in international games in NFL history? Well, reasoning, Tom Brady's played in three, two in London, one in Mexico, So I think I would go with that. The other guy, I mean, Blake

Buds played in a bunch with the Jags. But I'm gonna go Brady. Oh you had it was Bartles one thousand nine. Tom Brady needs twoft eight passing yards at FC Bayern Munich Stadium this year to surpass play. I was projecting, well, get that. The guys behind the US are celebrating too much. Actually, Ryan Fitzpatrick has over a thousand um. I mean it could have been with any number of teams. Derek carrs over a thousand uh, and then Philip Rivers exactly one. There you go, all right,

back to number question number three. We gotta get we gotta get Henry a win. Here. Of the forty regular season games that have been played internationally now we've had, forty six have been in Toronto. Can you name the only NFL team to appear in all six of those games in Toronto? The Buffalo Bills. That was a trick question. I think Thomas back had had had tricked me somehow, but not Buffalo. Yes, all six games in Toronto have

featured the Buffalo Bills. All right, moving on, there are six teams that have played at least two International games and are undefeated. I think you can name the undefeated teams in the International Series that have played multiple games. The Patriots, correct three and only three? And okay, um the okay, working my way down, it's not the Bills, not the Dolphins. Uh, let's see. Two of them will play each other in a game this year. Okay, so one of them is not so the Saints and Vikings

there it is. Okay, that's two. There's three more. There's more. The we've talked about one of them today. One of these teams will bring a new quarterback to the International Series this year, and the quarterback that they Giants. Yes, but yes, um, are you are you telling me that Tyrod Taylor is gonna start for the Giants? Um? No? I was thinking of a different team who will also see their former quarterback play in an International Series game

this year. So that former quarterback is also playing with his new team in an international game. And yeah, Seahawks and then the last one Kansas City Chiefs undefeated. No, they they played in London too, do they played in London? And then there you go, so they are undefeated, Um, you know, in two countries, which is just pretty darn impressed. All right, now for your international game fandom Dolphins edition. You know who the Dolphins played in the first ever? Clearly?

Do you remember the score of that game? Uh? Nineteens seventeen very close? Does uh? Do you know the Dolphins lost? The Giants won thirteen ti alright, um? Tega his first half the NFL touchdowns right, yes, okay, and consolation touched him. So this may not be as great of a deal for you as it was for me. But the head coach of the Dolphins that year was also one of my college head coaches, Cam Cameron. Yes, indeed, there you go to give him a ding. It's hard to come by.

I know exactly whatever I can get Dolphins starting quarterback in that game. Um, not Dan Marino. It wasn't Dan Marino. It was Cleo Lemon. Yes, Um, it was meant to be Trent Green, but Trent Green got injured that season and so Cleo stepped in. That was a tough year. It was a tough year. That was the Greg Camarrio got the got the one win. Give me a ding, Come on, give a take. That was the bonus question. Who did the Dolphins beat for their only win that season?

And what yes, Ravens And then you even gave us the extra bonus Cleo Lemons sixty four yard touchdown pass to Greg Camarrio. Um, all right, how did I do well with my overall school? Did I at least get I think we got back to by the end, So that's pretty So that's not too bad. That's pretty solid. But I was always aiming for Henry. Congratulations on the promotion. Thank you for getting back home now right, Yeah, that's exciting as well. I will miss the NFL media family,

though I've had a great time here. So that's that's that's the sad piece of it. But you guys are all welcome to to come visit London and come to need bureau chief example, you gotta write that into the next deal, Bureau Chief Germany of the Incestral series, got it. Gotta cover Henry Hotch and everybody here with this NFL Inside Report. Thank you, all right, that's gonna do it

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