NFL Draft breakdown

snapshot of what happened in round one. They're gonna pick a couple of our favorite drafts that we liked overall. Overall, I think we've got to talk about what went down with the quarterbacks. Definitely, that's a discussion that needs to take place. But I figured, let's not let's not waste any time. Let's jump in. Let's go every other one. Here are the three of us. Why don't you start us off, Buck with the Jacks because you were in

Jacksonville for the draft. Yeah, so did Jaguars take Trayvon Walker? I guess as expected. By the time we got to it. That was kind of the conversation. They went from being there four guys that did. It was down to Trayvon Walker a Hutchinson, Which one did you want? They elected to go with Trayvon Walker. And and being down in Jacksonville, I thought the interesting thing coming out of the conversation wasn't the fact that he was a guy that was a little bit of the Swiss Army knife up front.

He could play anywhere from knows all the way out wide. It was did they view him as an outside linebacker. They're gonna put him at one position in parking. They believe he can be heavy handed playing on the edge to be a solid run defender. They believe he can grow into being an effective pass rusher. And they just wanted someone who was powerful, who could get better by what they said is mastering one position as opposed to doing all the other stuff. Yeah, and and one little point,

we'll move on to the second one. I kind of was mad at myself because when I was getting ready to the last couple of days for the start of the draft, and I don't know why, it just dawned on him there with that decision, which was those running backs you got in that division when you've got Therick Henry and Jonathan Taylor. I think maybe that gave a little bit of the edge to the more physically imposing,

dominant run defender. Well, probably why we saw Devin Lloyd go You know, they loaded up, they rowed it up on defense, and they came back with Muma as well. Didn't completely reshape the second level of their defense. Absolutely. Now, they didn't take a tackle the entire draft. So all that talk about maybe Ikeya Kwanu being in play at one once the once the franchise tack Cam Robinson happened,

and then once the extension happens, they're out. All right, all right, I'll get to pick number two, Aidan Hutchinson. Not a surprise. They ran this thing up so fast it pick was in. It was like boom, all right, there, that's done. And there was some debate. I had heard a lot of chatter the day before, which was if there was if there was a situation where you had Ikey go one, because that had been floated around somehow.

If Ikey went one. I think there was a little bit of a debate in Detroit about Walker versus Hutchinson. So I think we all just assume if Hutchinson's on, if he's there they run the par ticket, which they did in the card up, but it would have been fascinating we didn't get see. It would have been fascinating that he would have went one and they had that decision that that Jacks had what they would have done. I love Hutchinson to me, the best player in the draft.

It's a perfect perfect fit. There couldn't get better. And he even dressed it like. He dressed like a villainy which I kind of like, and played it up. He had all the Jews scorn up on Stave. It was awesome. I love seeing, love the reaction with the family, all that number three Texans going Derek Stingley Jr. Look, you know, a little bit of a surprise, I think still based on how much we all like Sauce Gardner seeing Stingley

go ahead of Sauce at the cornerback spot. But man, we were talking about Stingley being one of those risers. In the last two weeks his teams got more comfortable with his injury and his medical We know he's got the elite talent. We saw it in twenty nineteen, and uh, I was I was a little surprised that that's where Houston ended up going knowing they needed just about everything.

But you know they've been searching for a corner for about the last I don't know, ten years since Jonathan Joseph left kind of kind of put some break from out there for us when he talked about we don't have the kind of corners that we need to play the style of defense that we want to play. What's interesting about the Derek Stingley pick over Sauce Gardner. I think we all would say that twenty nineteen Derek Stingley

was anything and everything that you wanted. Five star player played like that, um I thought I found it fascinating that being able to go back to twenty nineteen because there was so much conversation and how three years they go back three years his freshman year. But seeing the one on one tapes going against Machase, I think that really helped Derek Stingley's case because you're seeing two guys that are dominating at the NFL level. We had a

chance to go through the archives and he held own. Yeah, how he held his own against those guys, and then you got sauce set for yeah. So Sauce for me was prototype long arms RANGI uh, perfect football character. In terms of New York, we know what that defense looks like when you have a premier corner on the edge. I think he's the right fit, and I think he has the right temperament and mentality to succeed in New York with all the expectations and all the other stuff

that comes along with being as yet. Yeah, I just think about that position group and what that looks like. You know last year, um what that group was. And now you bring in Dj Reid. So Dj Reid starts the off season as your as your most talented corner, right, you get him in Bryce Hall and then now of a sudden you had Sauce Gardner, and it just shuffles the line up, pushes the lineup down. And Baseball we always talking about want to deepen your lineup. That's how

you do it. They deepen their lineup, man, and this is I think he's got a chance to be a true number one corner. It's just well, we walked up right by him before the draft and you guys saw him and Andy he is so tall and so long, like there's a presence to him. There's something to be said when the Jets would get off the bus last year. It's a small team. It's a little team. And now all of a sudden, you look at what they've done, and we'll get through the rest of their picks. Here.

They got bigger, They got bigger, and I think that's, uh, that's an interesting little subplot there to what they accomplished. You know, I think he's really interesting being able to have him on the on the edge and do something. All right, let's get the number five here the Giants. This one, to me was a little bit of a surprise. I did not think they would go Thibodau. They went Tibodaut five five. I think the way it fell, and we talked about it a lot. I'm sure I was

thinking the same thing. Once they had all the tackles on the board, it made it easier for them to say, we'll hold off on the tackle. We're gonna get one at seven, because you know, buttally and if some reason, if Carolina would shock us or Carolina would trade, then we could we might lose Thibodeau. So if that Tibodeau is your guy, you take him there at five, which they did. Um gives him, you know, gives him some juice. Gives him a fastball off the edge. It'll be a

good young combination with him. Last year, Azizo Gilari kind of quietly had eight sacks as a rookie here. And to me, when you when you're a team that stinks and you get close to ten sacks with the limited pass fresh opportunity because you don't get to play with the lead um, that means he's a double digit sack player if they get their team going. And I think you can't underestimate the coach. Wing Martindale has dealt with

big personalities. I don't think Cavon Tibodeau's personality and that stuff would bother him because he had to deal with Sizzle and Manin and some of the other guys on this team. I think it works. So then we get to number six, and I just didn't think in all the scenarios that the Panthers would have a pick of the offensive tackle class there at six, we go straight, they might get wiped out exactly exactly, and we go defense one through five, which you know is something that

that's certainly you know, obviously did happen. I don't know we thought could have happened. So the fact that the Panthers were able to get the guy who they viewed as the best tackle in this class, guy who we all kind of viewed as the best tackle in this class too. I mean it just that was another slam dunk there once we felt like they weren't going to quarterback now that was where they were going. No, no mystery. So six with the quantumne nice seven Evan Hill. Evan Hill.

I believe he was the guy that the Giants wanted all the way because you have Ryan day Ball in the relationship with Alabama kind of annoying exactly what you're getting because he can make those phone calls and Nick Saban and kind of figure out what is the best way to go about uh your business. With Evan Neil, it's a great fit. You put him on the right tackle you have Thomas I think. Yeah, by the way,

I was we talked about this on path. Never all that stuff got out about them having Charles Crosses as their number one tackle made no sense to me, Like, there's no way they've gotta left tackle Charles cross I believe the left tackle only Why the world would you go draft when you got this young left tackle was played well last year and Andrew Thomas. To me, Evan Neil was always always that guy. Think about the the way that they paired things up here young pairings now

with Olari and Thibodeaux and now Thomas and Neil. Yeah, pretty cool. That's good bookends on both sides of the ball, all right. Eight was the Falcons. They go with Drake London, so the first receiver off the board. We had talked about this twin Towers. Now we talked to us forever. They're gonna play tall ball with Kyle Pitts. The question was pass rusher, which you had a pass rusher in Jamaine Johnson. There team I think eighteen sacks last year, and I think they lost like six or eight of

them in the off season. So man, they've got to address the pass rush. Maybe they would do pass rush, but I think at the end of the day that to me, this is what this looks like. To me, they're kind of building this team, and whether or not it's for Ritter, you know, we'll see where they got Ridder. He'll get an opportunity to be that guy of the future. If not, they're trying to build the foundation here for maybe the quarterback next year. Um and give them some

weapons with with London and Pitts a good nation. It's a really good combination. Talk about being able to play that big boy ball on the perimeter. Uh, London certain

help send in the red zone. Seahawks at nine when Charles Cross, and this is one of those situations where like we view philosophically Seattle as a ground and pound type of team generally right and Cross the guy with the most pass blocking reps of any tackle in this class, coming from the mic Leach system, and you're like, okay, Uh, they got too mich Mike Leach offensive for him. Kas to write later, but so it's not that he can't

be a dominant run blocker. We just have Yeah, so maybe that's they they they view Charles is having that kind of potential. Anyway, as we get back to the Jets now at ten. So Garrett Wilson at ten, and you know, there was some conversation I think DJ you talked about Garrett Wilson maybe going to them at four because they wanted the playmaker. I put it, yeah, you know, And so now you get him at ten, you got

a guy to pair with. Uh. You know, I'm more on the outside, they can throw it all over the yard. They're better up front. They're just a nice fit to me for them to come out with that daily double, with what they got with Sauce Gardner and Garrett Wilson. The think about any he's gonna be great a training camp, and you think about what that receiving corps looked like a couple of years ago, and look at what it looks like now. And again now Corey Davis gets slotted differently.

Now you look at him differently. Still got Burrios, Yeah, you've got Burrios. MEM's I've been told has been off the charts in the offseason. Stuff. Buck this guy, it's gonna be fun. I think everybodys kind of forgot they can go five. They go five deep at wide out and they're gonna What they're doing too, is they're baking in. Think about the tight ends, right c j Uzama Conklin. They ended up getting Ruckert in this draft. They're gonna

have so many easy completions baked in. You talk about the Shanahan scheme all the time, Buck, like you start the game, but you should start the game with seven eight completions, just off, just off, bubbles and quicks and boots and just making it easy for Zack Wilson. So I think that's the plan there, all right, I'm up with Crystal lave. So we go back to back Ohio State wide outs. The Saints move up for a Lava.

I had talked to a general manager, a Super Bowl in general manager, a couple of days before the draft that he was not buying this business with the Saints not taking a back. I said, what everybody's told me, they're not taking a quarterback. They think they're close. They want a couple of good players. And he goes, how in the world do you trade a future one in a future two and you're gonna come away with the receiver and a tackle? Like he thought, that just doesn't

make any sense to me. And that's what they did. We thought, it's exactly what they did. They feel like they're close, and they started to see that run on whiteouts and they're like, we're not sitting back here and letting this uh fall to us, because it's not going to fall to us. So they went up and got Crystal LoVa. Crystal LoVa was the guy that I thought. It was the perfect compliment to my certain they love

and they love Ohio State. Nobody loves Ohio State last year. Yeah, you know, the whole secondary used to Yeah, every Marshawn Latimore, the whole deal. Yeah. So anyways, what do you got next?

All right? Next up, I've got the Detroit Lions, who made the biggest move up in the first round, moving up twenty picks thirty two to twelve, trading with Washington to get the wide receiver out of Alabama Jameson Williams, the third straight wide receiver with Columbus Ohio connections there, which is kind of be honest, Be honest, um, because I was on the spot when this trade happened. Was there any part of your being that thought that was

for James that happened? Not a single I thought it was Jermaine Johnson or the quarterback or or was you know they had coached Milick Willis. There was all that rumor and buzz like maybe they take Milik Willis the second pick, where none of us were really buying that. But I was told that morning that they were calling up to multiple teams inside the top ten. So I had even said, like it's gotta be a quarterback, right, Like what you're gonna come from that portion of the

draft all the way back up. It's gotta be a quarterback. And first of all, they didn't have to give up party anything. They came way short on the points. When you put in that trade, I thought they would have to be a future two or a future one. Yeah, they swapped twos and then got a five. It was like nothing. So yeah, that's a that's a big move. So good kudos to Detroit to pull that. Alms did a nice job. And I just got a weapon wide

receiver just wasn't in the register with me. We didn't think they would take it to too obviously, and they're thirty two, You're like, oh, they're all gonna be gone at once again credit to the head coach of being transparent. He said, I don't believe we need an elite quarterback to be able to get it done. And so he told us that there you hit us up right. Egos. Jordan Davis another one. You know, we go all the

way back. We talked about the Eagles and what the egos like to invest in upfront guys who helps to nail. So you get Jordan Davis, who looked size wise, you can think about putting him either beside Fletcher Cox or if his lever pacing Flessher Cox. It was a good move for me. Athletic can do everything you want to see it front and I feel like a lot of

people forget about Javon Hargrave. John Hargrave was the best interior rusher, like he can really rush and I know the number, the sack numbers aren't incredible, but this is somebody that can rush inside. He's got ability. So combine him with Jordan Davis, you get to learn from big fletch Um. And I thought it was ten years I believe we said it on there. I think it was ten years ago. I was in Philly for that draft. Traded up a few spots for Fletcher Fletcher and they

did the same thing here with Jordan Davis. By the way, first of many times teams got ahead of the Ravens because as Ravens have profiles for players like we talked about Jordan Davis. If he's there, which gets me to fourteen, and that's Kyle Hamilton's and I think there is a good chance Kyle Hampton would have been the pick even if Jordan Davis were there. I think the grades are very high on Kyle Hamilton's this offseason. Yeah no, and that's the thing, and now they spent They've always invested

in safety, they've always believed in it. Why the rest of the league says it's not an important position, They say the opposite You've got Chuck Clark now can drop down and play low. You've got those two guys that can play high. So the importance and this is kind of a longer discussion, which we'll have a chance to get into more in the off season, which we love

to do on this pod. But if you are going to be playing light boxes like the league has has really gone to to try and limit explosives and big plays, you need safeties that can that can flat footed, read, drive and tackle. So now you are in a situation with with Kyle Hamilton's that can help you play. You can play coverage, but he can still come down and fill and do everything you want to do from that standpoint. From depth, they talked about three safety looked he could

be Yeah, and he can do all that stuff. It's a big dude, six foot four two or fifteen pounds. Let's move to number fifteen, where the Houston Texans after the trade with the Eagles, moved back to spots, and they get a guy that we had kind of talked about is maybe sliding out of the first round due to some injury concerns. Kenyan Green, the offensive guard slash

four positions, but it feels like they're gonna move. They're gonna kick Titus Howard back out to right, leave him the right tackle and maybe, like Kenyan Green, slip in there at one of the guard spots. I dropped him a few spots at the very end of the process because some concerns that I was related to me about his knee. So, but if you're talking about just ability, the interior is always unless he was he's kind of

the guys pounds or whatever he is. He's just a bigger, bigger dude who can really move and do a lot of things. So um, again, everybody's medical staff is different. They're comfortable with it, and I hope it's right. He's a great player, really a player. So another good player. How about a Washton Commanders and Johan Dotson coming over. They have desperately needed someone to go opposite Terry McLaurin.

Then you get a speed player, a guy who wants to riff with the ball in his hands, and as we think of out this offense, trying to bake in some easy completions for Carson Wentz. You have someone who can do something with the ball in his hands. Yeah, pair him up there with Terry McLaurin, and you've just given some more some more targets for Carson Wentz there at sixteen seventeen. Zion Johnson to the Chargers. You know, I think a lot of people will be surprised by this,

just because Penning was there. You'd say, okay, you take Penning, you put him at right tackle. You've got your bookends. You're rocking and rolling with two young tackles going forward. But in talking to those guys the couple of days before the draft, they had talked about the fact that, you know, we want to get the best offensive lineman, and we gotta get the best offensive linemen. We're gonna put him in there and go what They were not concerned with either it's a guard or a tackle. They

feel like they have some versatility there. I know Storm Norton had his struggles last year at right tackle, but there were a few games last year where Trey Pipkins got in there and they thought he had taken major steps. I think they're comfortable with the fact Trey Pipkins could

be their right tackle next year. The light sometimes comes on a little bit later for guys small school player, But I would be surprised if that's their lineup with Zion Johnson at right guard and then right tackle ings up being Trey Pipkins when it's all said and done. So Zion Johnson rock solid, smart, tough. I mean, from them right guard to left tackle is as good as any in the league. Right from what the offensive line looked like. Yeah, so you get Corey Lindsley Filer rashauns Later,

that's it's good. They just gotta figure out what to do it right tackle alright. So that brings me back here at number eighteen, which got a little crazy with trade as Philadelphia acquired A. J. Brown from the Tennessee Titans for the eighteenth overall pick, and then at eighteen Tennessee Titans take our trailing Burk's comp or take a J. Brown's don't even started. I gotta tell Bucky this story. So here we go. Let's go inside the draft. We

are we We've got the trade. The Philadelphia Eagles acquire a J. Brown. We're gonna break down a J. Brown bing bang, boom, and then all of a sudden, the Titans are on the clock. The Titans take Trailing Burk's. I'm like, this is a dream, this is my cop. Like that doesn't get any better than this. Trailing Barks is gonna replace A J. Brown. So I'm sitting here. I've got the Eagles, I've got the Titans, I got a J. Brown. Trailing Burk's roll the highlights, all right,

Trailing Burks highlights are rolling. I'm talking about Jalen Hurts is going to be throwing the ball to Trailan Burks and Nick Sirianni is gonna know what to do with Trailer Burks. Hey, dummy, you know that Burks is on the Titans. A J. Brown is on the Eagles. And I'm sitting there. So I finished. I finished, finished the breakdown. Usually I finished the breakdown. I look at C D and he's just he's ready to roll. And see he's looking at like this and I and it hits me like,

oh yeah, that's that's that's that's not right. Yeah. J. Brown is with the Eagles and then the ship's sail the way it was over. Keth Brown then gets straight and it was like it was my head was swimming. So you guys know me the whole rest of the draft of what's wrong with you? Yeah, that was inside the draft there. But I love it. I love I love now that you've got the Titans have trailing Burk's and then they've got Robert Woods and you know, nice

little set up there for for Ryan Tanner. And the thing that this is what's so cool about the draft is we scrimmage this stuff. We talked this all the time, but we scrimmage this stuff and then it happens, and so you're like, you know, we talked about this. Where he was picked, it's like a three and a half a million dollar a year salary. Yeah, yeah, which I think when you when you add that extra year, I think two whatever whatever you ended up getting, like, that's

a massive value. It's a massive savings. Yeah, we'll have to talk about us in a later thing. I don't think they could pay a J. Brown that kind of money When you have Derrick Henry making like half of that, I think it obsets the applecart when everyone in the building knows that Derrick Kenry is the engine that makes that offense go. Interesting interesting subplot are eighteen and Trevor nineteen, Trevor Pinning going to the Saints. So they did it.

They would get the big play receiver. They were able to make sure they replaced Tearyan Armstead. They get Trevor Pinning to go in that spot. They were able to get the gather they wanted right at the spot that. I don't know if we thought Pinning would get there, we thought he would be in range seventeen could have been. Yeah, so it we're it worked for the Saints. They were upgraded squad and yeah, just quickly. Um. I don't know how this worked out on on the red lowis mock draft,

but I do. I do want to say that our old colleague Shanika Dabny hen Or Sin who's down with the Saints now, asked me to do a little mock for the Saints picks in the first three rounds. Just want to say that that's the official record because that was the Lava and Penning come on, both got them both. So just put that into the old CHI might have to send us a send us a Twitter a text let us know if that's justin purifications, but you're you're back with Kenny I think here all right, yep, So

Steelers Kenny Pickett. Um, this is kind of what we had heard. Uh, we talked about that they seemed to be leaning in that direction maybe a couple of weeks before the draft. It's kind of while we were talking about Pickett with the Steelers, and it was fascinating to have coach Tomlin on because sometimes we use the terminology and we talk in certain ways and and then you'll hear the explanation from the team side. Maybe it's a little different. This was literally the exact He used the

word floor. He said, we loved Kenny Pickett's floor, and we had we had framed this decision as floor ceiling. Yeah, he is the floor quarterback and that's not a bad thing, especially when you feel good about the rest of your roster. So, um, you know, I think I think he's got a good chance to be starting. We asked him, is he going to be in the competitions? Oh yeah, competition to start

and once Drubisky to Risky sign. Initially we we talked about, well, you know, maybe true bistic and then we saw the contract members go nope, let's backup contract. That's not starting contract correct, exactly right. So that brings us to twenty one with the Kansas City Chiefs, who moved up to this spot in a trade with the New England Patriots, and they end up getting you know, arguably the most

fundamentally sound corner in this draft and Trim mcduffee. And I remember when they were sitting back there at twenty nine and thirty, I was like, man, they really need a corner. You just don't know if there's gonna be one there that fits the value. And they end up going up and getting the third best corner in this class and Trim mcduffee great fit. Going back, I talked to Veach before the draft and I said, you know, hey, you've got the ammunition. If you want to go all

the way up, you can go up. And he's like, yah no, he said, we got some things we need to get done. You know, I think they wanted the picks they ended up doing it, especially defensively. Yeah, defensively, they really upgraded. This guy is terrific. He'll allowed them to play the kind of defense they want to play on the outside of the Spags his defense and a little less risky than Marcus Peters is in the way,

same school, different players, the same school, different place. So the Green Bay Packers quay Walker, this to me was all about the types, the traits, the prototype. They wanted a big, physical linebacker. Even though people talked about n Kobe Dean was the guy that was the tone setter. They're quay Walker is the one that you looked at. It was like, that is what an NFL linebacker should

look like, sideline to sideline chaser. You put them on the field aside Andre Campbell, and when you think about this Packers defense, quietly, they've kind of carried the water for the last couple of years in Green Bay. That should continue with these young guys coming to love that no receiver pick. You love that all six wine outs were gone by a team you love didn't. But to me, to me, it was the smart thing that it was because the gap between the players kind available and the

next best receiver was tremendous. So um and they ended up doing all right in the in the white out department, all right. Next up, Buffalo ends up trading up Uh and they end up taking Kyer Elam. I had Kyer Elam going to the Chargers in the mock draft, and this is one of those guys that I liked him. I didn't love him on the tape um there, so I thought it was just a little too much separation

at times. But height, weight, speed, toughness, all that stuff checks out, um, But there was just some stuff I thought we had to work back downhill. You saw a little bit separation. Uh, some tackling was a little bit inconsistent, not for lack of one to but when I talked to made calls kind of the week of and uh,

it was the teams were much higher term. And when you see the video they released of his interview with the team sitting in there and you see his notes that he had kept and how much of a kind of a pro he already was, I'm like, Okay, that's the missing pace we didn't have. As this guy seems like he's dialed in so much more value in getting that piece that they needed opposite turd Avious White. And you know, depending on where White it's gonna probably I

might not be ready for the start of the season. There. You had they had to have a corner as opposed to they're okay at running back right now because that we had talked about Breese Hall. Maybe there. Yeah, but also if it's gont of the profile you think about the picks at the Buffalo Bills have, they all have these guys that are like blue collar, working like guys

that are professional, a total pro. And that's and that's one of those reasons why I think he was my I think I had him in the early forties on my top fifty list, and I feel comfortable with that. Off the tape when you hear him speak and you hear how he's wired, and like, Okay, I get it, I get it. Why he uh while he was more loved around the league. Let's move to Tyler Smith at number twenty four to the Dallas Cowboys. They needed offensive lineman help and and Tyler gives him. I think they

announced him as a tackle. Yeah, he's gonna play this, gonna play tackle there. So he'll jump in where Lyle Collins left in free agency to go to the Cincinnati Bengals. And so Tyler Smith will fill in their right tackle. And look, you're starting to rebuild that offensive line, rebuild that you know that prestige that you had, you know about five to seven years ago. It's the best offensive line football, no doubt. All right, yeah, here we go.

So let's go twenty five. The Baltimore Ravens. We had talked about the Ravens did not have anybody who can snap, so they had to get it. We're worried about Tyler Linden moallm in terms of size. But I think the thing they really impacted the success that they had with Marcia Yonda. I think influenced him because another hour problem. And they love Kirk parents. They have a great relationship, and they just they just believe in what Iowa produces. And based on how those guys have played the league

est me, I understand body made a pick, no doubt. Um, and you think about you know, just their their profile. He doesn't fit from the size and we had talked about that, but temperament wise, like Lindar bombs a bully, like that's how he plays, and that's what what Baltimore loves. By the way, they did go enormous. Another one of the weird cops, Daniel Filele, was in Orlando Brown Junior comp And then all right, so next I am up with twenty six, and this is the Jets trading back

in for Jermaine Johnson. I've got no answer because I know if you've listened to us, the question that you're thinking is how God's Green Earth is Jermaine Johnson available at I've got no answer. And I've talked to multiple GMS, talked to buddies around the league. Is there what am I missing? It? Was this guy done? No, no, he just teams. Teams had wide receiver needs and offensive line needs. We saw six wide receivers go. I think we had nine offensive lineman go in the first round. So teams

were need focused and they went. We had those three addressers go early, and there was the gap. But to me, this was the clearly easily the biggest How you pick of the first round and I think it's my ninth overall player. They got twenty six, so you're plus seventeen on that big gosh, and you go look at this this Jets d line. Guys. Now, when you had Karl Lawson, who did not play at all last he's coming down that free agent contract, so he's coming back into that mix.

And now now again we talked about reshuffling the lineup and in lengthening out your lineup. Now you've got Quentin Williams, you've got Sheldon Rankins, you've got lost and you've got Jermaine Johnson. You can roll through John Franklin Myers who can move up and down the line of scrimmage. They drafted Michael Clemens. Later they brought back Vinny Curry and kind of, you know, he'll have a spot roll there. They've kind of that's a dude. They got dudes upfront.

Good group for sure, and then Jacksonville trades back up. So we had two trades back into the back end of the first round from teams that didn't have any more picks in the first round. So it was the Jets there with Johnson. Now the Jaguars do it with Devin Lloyd. So obviously he took Trayvon Walker at one. They come back up. Remember they lost Miles Jack in free agency, right, so he went to the Pittsburgh Steelers. So you know that that second level of their defense,

you know, they needed to figure out. And they get the best linebacker you know in the draft. I think you know, at least in my opinion, they're coming from Utah and now they get some length back there in the second level, guy that can make plays really all over the place. He can rush the pass for a little bit, he forces fumbles, he can pick passes off, and he's attackled by the way and off the ball linebackers.

And we can say, oh, it hasn't been valued as much, and maybe that's why some of these guys have gone down. It's valued in Jacksonville. I mean when they when they go out and pay Al Khan, they go out, they draft devn Lloyd in the third round. They Chad Boma, who's a great player who we all love. They think it's important there at the second level. Yeah. I think also we talked about building your team to win a division. You talked about a running back Jonathan Taylor, Deryck Kenry

being able to have to deal with those guys. You gotta have big buddies all around the front seven to be able to get that done. All right, Who you got DeVante Wyatt going to Green Bay Pack There's another interior piece and teammates. The Packers have done this over and over and over again. I want to get teammates. But when they drafted Kenny Clark years ago, You're like, man,

Kenny Clark didn't need someone on the inside. They can do it, and so you look inside, they just get another athletic piece, another guy they can play at the point of attack. I think they only heavily on their defense while this offense is still trying to find their identity with Hare and Roger. Well, this was strange or was it? Or was it? You know, we talked about as soon as we heard the Cole Strange you tea chat new golfensive lineman going to New England Patriots at

twenty nine. You're like, okay, here comes Logan Mankins again, right, But it kind of was a little bit off the radars and Fresno State offensive lineman. They ended up taking him and ended up being one of the best guards in football for a long time. Certainly hoping that's what they can do with Cole Strange here. You know, who fits fills a void If they sent Shack Mason off to the Tampa Bay Bucks and look there you go. I mean, it's just it's strange because we didn't have

him going in the first round. But it fits with the Patriots do because they're always a little bit different. Yeah, So let me, I want to jump in on this one here. So Cole Strange, he was my seventy four player. Okay, So now I want you to then unpack the rest of it. So you go, okay, seventy four player to pick what the heck are they doing? Right? Well, then

let me explain this side of it. When when they were on the clock, the interior offensive line, we had a good sized runoff, so I had Cam Jurgens is my best available interior offensive lineman. Cole Strange was number two, so he was the second best available interior offense line in my in my opinion. So he said, okay, well they had just had him over Cam Jurgen's not not

a big deal. Um. And then when you dig in, first of all, I talked to several teams that wanted we're targeting him early third round, which if teams are targeting somebody in the early third round, me, he's probably gonna go in the second round because a lot of people like him and think he's a good player. So then we go, okay, well he's the second round player

went in the first round. Not a big deal. Then when you look at the background, forty four starts which you love, considered considered all the service academies to go to school. He had the grades as an engineering major um and he plays with the bulldog mentality. We had talked about it after the Senior Bowl. He would get killed on a rep and he would come back and went a rep ultra ultra competitive. We did the Brian Baldinger comp with the face masks, the one bar down

the middle. But I'm like, okay, so you've got a profile match with the Patriots. He's the second best available interior offensive line which they wanted to target and probably goes in the second round. So when you add all that stuff up together, I guess what I'm saying is it shouldn't be all that strange that they take there. You go, yeah, I mean they did have a pick at fifty aft overall, maybe you know, maybe he was gone by then, and then you want to miss. Yeah,

and you don't know. And that's what they say, And they say, look, our goal is to draft starting players, and if he's going to start for us, a good pick cares where he goes. Yeah, exactly right, All right, let's move to thirty Carl Loftus. That's Buck rhet one out of order. By the way, Buck Yeah, you went strange when I was supposed to go strange. But that's

my But that's my bad. You know when you do a crossover, when you do a crossover episode, you know, look at that happen where we are now, I'm gonna, I'm gonna let's let's just let's uh just going to the Kanci Chiefs. I love this because what it does is last year when they got Melvin Ingram, he brought a little nasty to that team that they were lacking. So then you get George garlof to some power player

to put alongsid Chris Jenal's opposite Frank Clark. It gives them something different because they also need to stop the run. This is a power guy who is really good against the run. It helps them up front. Yeah, again, address that defense that was their focuss with McDuffie that it's awesome. Yeah too, and too high floor players. If we're gonna use the floor, why don't you go ahead on deck?

Who would do so? The Bengals, you know, they were getting one of those teams that, based on what they did in free agency, like gave themselves some real options to take who they felt like. You know, it was

the best available player. Now, I think we all kind of felt like secondary was a place they could still look to improve just by getting you know, h w W Woozier last year, you know, Eli Apple got uh you know, had some struggles in the Super Bowl, as we saw at the very end, and then they brought in Mike Hilton to which I thought played pretty well in the slot for them. And so, like I I considered when I was filling out my mock draft, I considered Dax Hill there, but I was like, maybe an

outside corner would be a little bit better. Kyler Gordon perhaps went early second. They ended up going Dax Hill, and I still think, you know, opportunity to being upgrade there at thirty one. So nice work there by the Bengals. All right, last pick Minnesota Vikings. After trading back, they end up taking Louis Scene and Louis Scene again. Georgia

defense just ridiculous, um, but Louis Scene. To me, I was talking to a head coach defensive head coach is smart dude and said this was his favorite player in the draft, And I said, well why, He said, first of all, he's he's brilliant with the way he talks about this defense incredibly smart and he said, just there's like a warrior mentality to him. There's just a warrior spirit.

And people think that's hokey when you say stuff like that, but you can tell when you're around guys and you kind of you get a feel for kind of a presence and a leadership and a little bit of aura. And he said, this dude has that. He's like, I'll bet I'll bet on this guy. And so I did a on Tuesday of Draft week or Monday was I did a Twitter spaces with a bunch of Georgia alums

in the NFL. Was Sony Michelle, was McCole, Hardman, in Roquan Smith, and we got to talk about Louis scene and real qualm was like, Louis, if you're listening, big fellow, lower your target area. You are going to spend some the next level if you keep getting the way you do in college. So yeah, just lower that target area a little bit. But he can bring the thunder. We know that. Yeah, he's a good player. So I like

that pick. They traded down and did not think that they got the value they should have got when they traded down. But in terms of the picks, um, but I love the player that they came with. Their in in Lewis scene. All right, the draft. We're gonna take one draft here and just kind of dig into it and a piece, so we each take a draft that we love. I'll start off here with the Jets and talked about it. They look they should have a dominant draft. When you have four picks in the top thirty eight,

you should come away with four good players. I don't think in any any uh any way possible. I thought they would come away with Sauce Gardner, Garrett Wilson, Jermaine Johnson, and then also trade up for Bruce Hall. Uh So, Sauce Gardners my top corner, Garrett Wilson was my top receiver, Bruce Hall was my top running back. And then this has got three players I thought were the best their

position and Jermaine Johnson. Buck. You tell me if a year from now we look back on the season and Jermaine Johnson led all rookies and sacks, would you be surprised none at all? Because his game we saw it. We saw the explosive trades, we saw his ability to get there. I think it's funny when you talk about the Jets and what they were able to accomplish, and I find it fascinating that Joe Douglas came from Baltimore

by way of Philly. And so when I look at the Baltimore Ravens in their draft, and you worked in the building, but I've always believed from the outside looking in, the Baltimore Ravens have always committed taking the best player available. They're not as hung up on needs. They want great players that the great players sitting there, they're gonna take him. And so when I think about just the four picks, cal Hamilton's outstanding. We talked about him possibly being the

best defender in the draft. Tyler Lindonmon was the best center. There's some questions about size, but in terms of Watchington play, you talked about the bully mentality that showed up, David a job boll off the edge, the explosives but having the inside familiar Mike McDonald being able to do it. Travis Jones up front, we saw him by the way o jabo. How cool is it him in a way and their and their backgrounds connection together right there able

to be back. So Travis Jones is another one. But then I believe the two picks in the fourth round, what do you get Charlie Colar and Isaiah likely to me if you go back and look at how I've done that twice before, how Lamar Jackson played. He played better when they had all the tight ends on the field.

So let's bring that back. I know you're a little upset with us because we got rid of Hollywood, but I think they actually made it where the game can be better and easier for Lamar Jackson by adding these tight ends to go with the guy that there. So we we've talked about this before about one of the things that they do in their track record is they

double up at positions. So when you go back through and look through their history, um and you look at the tight end position, they did it with Pitta and Dixon, I believe right the first and then they Hirst James Hurst, so so Hayton Hurst, Yeah, James Hurst the tackle and Hurst James Hurst by the North Canta. I saw Clowne play against Hirst uh in the game. But yeah, so they that's there, that's their philosophy. What's what's the draft

that stood out to you? Yeah? Look, I think the Houston, Texans. UM. You know, we talked about it at the top with Stingley and Green as their first round picks, but I really loved what they did on Day two. They went with Jalen Peatrie, got some speed there at safety to replace Justin Reid who ended up leaving. And then you get John Metchi kind of add into, you know, as maybe a little bit more of you like your middle

of the field receiver. You got Nico Collins last year, a little bit of the physical, big, bigger body guy. And then you already got the Speedsters extending Brandon Cook, so I think it's a contract extension for the first time in his career. UM, So, I thought that was nice. Then Christian Harris upgrades that the athleticism at linebacker, because remember Zach Cunningham, they just straight up cut in the middle of the season last year, and so he kind

of fills that void. I even really liked Damian Pierce bowling a China chop kind of running back there, and he needed a little bit more in the run game production. He had thirteen touchdowns, had more rushing yards against that that stout Georgia defense than any running back did in this entire draft, so I think that really helps him in the fourth round. Thomas Booker is a guy who

we kind of liked as a solid smart player. Uh to be up there on the defensive line, you know, maybe on the interior there for love you Smith there in the fifth round. So I thought they did real good. If I could just give you a quick honorable mention for a Tina didn't have a first round pick that I thought did really well. Three of my favorite players go to the Indianapolis Colts with Alec Pierce, Gilani Woods

to tight end in Bernard Ryman a tackle. Yeah, they and if you look at all the athletics scores in terms of take big time they got they you know that's something Chris powers into you think about the traits they got very athletic. Right, we're gonna take a quick break and when we come back where to discussed the quarterbacks. We had nine quarterbacks ago including Mr Irrelevant. So we'll do it from twenty to sixty two where we had the first in the last coming off right it for

this one, all, let's pick this back up. This is Move the Sticks and NFL Inside Report little crossover podcast production here for you as we wrap up the NFL draft taking a look at the quarterbacks here and look at it set all the records I guess in the in the wrong way for quarterbacks, especially for me at four going on the first round. Let's not thinking to that did hit some of the team fits though they

just ended up getting the quarterbacks later. So the Pittsburgh Steelers, we talked about that going to the with the pit Panthers quarterback Ka Pickett. So we just goes to the other side of the building there. That certainly fits. Let's get into those third round guys, Ritter, Willis and Corral. I mean, DJ, you gotta start with with the Falcon selection of Ritter, who also had the guy you comped him too on their roster. That's funny when that works

out that way. So and Ritter had actually even self comped himself to Marcus Mariota, comped himself to Marcus Mariota. So, um, and I think from from my brief time around Desmon Ritter and haven't been around Marcus Mariota a little bit, these guys are gonna compete. It's gonna be a good competition. They're both great, great guys and uh and both guys are just winners and and tough and love by their teammates. So um, I think that's a that's an interesting pick

there for the Atlanta Falcons. Buck, I think he's he's got a chance to get on the field this year. I don't think he'll start the season, but I think we're gonna see Desmond Ritter sometime this year. Really, do I think we had a chances. Yeah, we're gonna get a chance to evaluate him the year because they need to find out. Look, he was a third round pick. You're not like your big time heavily invested him. But I would like to in a team that I don't

think it's winning anything this year. I would like to know a little bit of what I got. You think the third round status of all these guys take all of the pressure off. There's no pressure. But in my mind, I don't even think it's a competition. I don't even think it's a competition. No, but but, but there's a difference in saying it's not a competition and he's not gonna play all year long when you want to look at him a little bit, I mean, maybe it depends

on how we go. Maybe with some games you're not winning. Marcus Mariota made let us to win games. And so with that in mind, let's go to the next guy, Malik Willis. And this is what I love about the Malik Willis pick. There's no pressure to put him on the field because Ryan Tanneil has played in the Pro Bowl level before. Let's take the playoff game out of it, and let's take the way that they kind of played the season without Derrick Henry out of because it's too

much on him. You could potentially have an opportunity to do with Malik Willis what they did with Steve McNair. It took Steve McNair two years before he was able to get on the field. Chris Standen was there at the time, they fully red shirted, didn't reshirted him again. But for he had an opportunity to play for Malik Willis. It may be a long road before he gets onto the field, but I can't think of a better situation,

a better mentor than Ryan Tannehill. In a scheme where you have a run dominant uh fuel to it, I think it's perfect. Yeah, I wonder if they aren't. If they're legitimately games and Titan schedule that they could say, you know what, Tannehill, Whiteouts, get healthy. Take a week, we're gonna start and we're going to run the ball every clay and with our with our running game and with him complimenting the running game and our defensive line, we're good. It's like two extra buys, two extra buys

for the white Outs in the quarterbacks. Guys, just take a break. Malik Milike, you give us twenty carries. Derek, you give us twenty five carries. We're cooking with gas. I mean, I look at Built Belichick did it with Mac Jones last year. I know the weather dictated it up in Buffalo, but yeah, you can see something like that happening. And look, we talked about it with with Tennessee, like you gonna have to make a call on Ryan Tannehill next year. Like he's gonna be your starter this year.

We know that, but like you've got an out manageable out in his in his contract next year, he's gonna be thirty five years old, Like you're gonna pay him in a forty mill per No, No, this is gonna be this his last year. It just made sense. But I mean, by the way I remember being in Baltimore in those playoff games with Tennessee and with Eddie George and Steve McNair. Oh my gosh, it's gonna look exactly

the same. Yeah, yeah, it's great. All right, I'll get to Matt Corral here, who was the third quarterback taken in the third round. By the way, not necessarily a surprise to not see these guys go in the first round. The second round, I thought, right, all right, So anyway, they all go in the third, almost all of them. Rather so the Panthers come back up. They trade another future pick to come back up at the tail end of the third round and make Corral the overall pick.

You had to you had to think. They love the release, They love the competitiveness of him, They love some of that toughness that we saw with him running the football. And you know, now he's there with with Sam Donald. You think that's a true competition, by the way, Uh no, out, I don't think it will be. I think Sam will be the guy. But correct me if I'm wrong. Didn't Corral? I know he's committed to USC at one point time. Did the timing because when he was younger, say if

he committed as a sophomore. Wouldn't that have been Sam sc at that time? It might have been he was committed. I thought he was. He was committed, he went he went through a bunch of different things. But yeah, they're both from out here. They know. I'm sure they actually think once again, I think it's another great situation. I think one situation for Sam. I would like to see him go into a situation where, look, people say, like

he's a kid who's gotten a million lives. But let's go into the situation where it's clear and apparent that he is. They gave him a tackle to trying to help him up front. They have Christian McCaffrey coming back. Let's see if he can be what people thought he was because remember he was drafted very high. Give him every girl to be that player. And then with McCarrell, I think it's a nice developmental situation. There's no pressure to put him on the field. Um yeah, I like it.

I like the way he looks. I mean, maybe the biggest headscratcher of all of him was Belichick going back to back rookie quarterbacks fairly early. With Bailey's happy as the thirty second pick of the Worth round now joining Mac Jones. They Trafton last year. Kind of very similar in terms of you know, mental um, you know Acuty there the way that they can process things. But my comp for Zappy, by the way, was Chase daniel Based. Daniels still playing in this league a long time. He's

Bailey's Appy will have a longer. I don't think he's gonna be a starter personally. I think can get you out of a game here. Maybe starting was probably on the back end. That's the thing. And the other thing there was a little bit of a president with the Patriot because remember they to Jacoby Brissette, they came right back into Jimmy Garoppolo. Yeah, and so they do it with these young quarterbacks. And if he never develops into being a starter, but he is their long term backup,

it is well worth it. Mac Jones has played well, but this guy we were talking about trying to find someone who was a pastor who's efficient. If I was playing flag football, this would be my all time If there's anybody app if you're in the I mean think about the way Mac plays now. Max way more talented, but he's a completion collector. Yeah, and that's what Bailey's appy is seven picks later. Both trained with the same guy, right, yeah,

with David Morris, so they know each other. They trained with each other again this you know, this trap process and Bailey, alright, that one shot. Guys, that was the big If you told me of all the quarterbacks where they went, who they went to. He told me Sam how it was going to be in the fifth round. I said, You're no way, There's no way. And we can talk about this quarterback class being underwhelming and it's down. It's not what he's been. A dude should have gone.

That's disrespectful, disrespect, disrespect. They treated the quarterbacks as if they were this one he could play. I can argue you could play this year. I can argue the other ones. Okay, value where they got him, I can I get it. Sam Howell, he hi, come on man, Yeah, so but come on. But the situation for him is actually pretty good because you don't have an opportunity. He's an upgrade over Tyheky. He gives them a chance to kind of develop and kind of figured out. And look, he goes

in as a fifth round pick. He has to kind of play and fight his way out of that quarterback situation. But we'll see. Yeah, all right, the last three anybody interested with Old will Coon, Skyler Thompson, Brock Purty, guys pretty as a competitor, Like I like that dude, like he he was with us at the Shrine Bowl. So

was Skyler Thompson? Is Mr Irrelevant? Why not? By the way, I almost felt bad at the end because I said on the air, I said, it is kind of ironic that a quarterback irrelevant because it just that's what this draft was this year. And that showed us. I mean, and Buck, I give I give Bucky a lot of credit. Man, you caught all kinds of heck you did no quarterbacks in the first round, and people said you're crazy darn near right man, And so that this is what the

league thought. I was quarterbacks this year. But I feel like we birdly are we not gonna say anything about the steel was drafting two quarterbacks in the draft? Oh yeah, they pulled the Washington commit. They pulled the Washington thing, right, cousins. Yeah, Kirkin r G three and then come back with Oladkin

to join pick it at two forty one. So now the Steelers will have Mason Rudolph and they'll have uh, they'll have rabisky and they'll have picket and uh Oladkin so qb old Dokan is not gonna get a lot of reps, guys. Yeah, but practice squad and let's go. Yeah. Um So anyway, it was alright, anything else you guys want to add before we get out of here. This was fun. By the way, thanks to everybody, uh for

hanging with us through this whole run up. I mean we've had We've had so much fun with not only doing the Move the Sticks audio pod which been a TV show which we were able to carry all the way through the draft was really cool, which was really cool, doing path, doing Mock Draft Weekly, Mock Draft Live, what do we call that thing? Mock Draft Live? There you go. Um. So it's been so much stuff that we've been doing, and you guys have been great to hang with us

this whole time. I do want to give a special shout out to the Bile because it's kind of a lot to to juggle. I don't know if you get I don't know if you get notice, but like we got we know, like was on the Saturday Pod Saturday, it was he was a star. He he was what, oh, you didn't notice busy? So it wasna bible Ritt was busy to wing his duty, said Bill, and I chopped it up. He jumped in, and so we did a

thirty minute podcast. We did a thirty minute podcast. They were supposed to be on the leak, and we spent twenty five minutes talking about the packers and all the nice I feel like a proud I feel like a proud father. That should you should just watching him, just watching him just grow up before our very eyes, like a proud father with a baby with a very full head of hair ahead. He even went out and get a brand new microphone for the event, did he? That's

what I'm talking about, you, Biel? How we doing? And you got have you? Have? You already got offers? You leaving us now? No, I'm good. Uh you know it's those things soon Oreno, soon enough. The day is coming. That day is coming. He's a rising star. Lace Bill. All right, Hey, we're not We're not done here. What another episode for you this week? And uh, we appreciate

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