Week 12 Matchups, Cruising 49ers, Eagles respect, Buccaneers back on track, Quick Picks and Over/Unders

of the four of us as family. Okay, a little bit, you know, a little bit angry at each other, sometimes a little bit yelly. We get there, but on behalf of all of us, we do. Oh, Greg, an apology. Greg. I'm gonna be honest. It has been hard to watch these last three weeks. I'm talking about both the Raiders and you taking the cheese every single week. Enough is enough, give me a break. I'm not giving up on the Raiders.

I'm sticking with them this week. I mean they're way in the Broncos speak to Jacob's car floats up and I'm just open walked off touchdown. I'll sweep of the Pods, Hold on Vegas, this group. You should believe in yourself. Long season. It's November, it's Thanksgiving week. We gotta we made a mistake, Greg as yours. What do you want to say? I mean, yeah, if you can associate me with anyone, it's the three and seven Raiders. We stuck with it. You know, I've learned on the show and

in life, like you need to celebrate your victories. You gotta let people know when you're ahead. So let's let's see that board too, because I had a great week. It wasn't just all about the Raiders. Put that crown on me. Put it on. It is like the first time. I'm just gonna enjoy it and then I'm gonna start losing again. This week. Well done, Cynthia and I are to this week and Patrick is probably still on the tippity top. No, it was a bad week, but you

know what, like Greg said, we celebrate the previous. I think, like, what's the total? I think I've caught up. I think you're you might be overall and oh we shall see. Okay, let's get to some of these games. Playoff rematch on Sunday. Last year's Divisional and a j Brown touchdown tied to game heading into the fourth quarter. The Titans got the ball back late with a chance to take the lead, but a Ryan Tannell later ze yet the Bengals to

kick a game winning field goal. Bengals won nineteen to sixteen. Okay, so not quite the same sex in Week twelve, obviously, but Greg two Bengals are. The Bengals are two and a half point favorites on the road. Who do you like in this one? I struggled with it, and then I thought the Titans are underdogs at home. With the way they're playing, all the disrespect needs to stop. I'm taken the Titans to win this game by a field goal, and it's partly because Ryan Tannehill finally has some weapons

around him to throw to. Trail On Burke's came off injured reserve last week and made a couple of deep plays against the Packers that really opens up their offense. I think he looks more ready than he was early in the season. Robert Woods, Bobby Trees also with a little extra juice. Some of these receivers that tore the RACL last year, they've taken a little while to get going.

But you can see more explosion. And when you protect Ryan Tannehill and Derrick Henry running as well as he does helps protect Ryan Tannehille, then he can still spin it. And like, when's the lack of respect for the Titans ever gonna stop this season? How many more games do they have to win? Cynthia, I feel like they feed off of that. They probably still want to be disrespected. Cynthia, Well, I have them winning too, so I have kind of the same exact argument I have three. I also think

the missing pieces for the Bengals do matter. Of course, I like some my g P Ryan, but no Joe Mixon and probably no Jamaar Chase. That's a problem for them as l But I really want to talk about trail On Burke's in his return because you're talked about it. It spreads the field. And remember the Bengals are without Chitnubey Woozier, which is a big loss in that secondary.

They're also see some other pieces as well. So when you have that combined with the fact that oh, I don't know when there's pressure and Joe Burrow and there's not enough, that's just a mess. So when I look to see what's going on with this trail on Burks adding that vertical threat. That vertical element creates an opportunity for Derrick Henry to have even more space to run. Those two things combined, to me, means this is kind

of a team that I don't know. You're right, they're not getting a ton of this as much respect getting better every week, Well yeah, but they're just not getting there. They're maybe getting better every week, but they're not getting respect every week. See the line this week, Respect or disrespect comes from the birthday boy. And I think that the sad thing is the Titans won't be able to use this show as an example of national media not

respecting them. I've got them winning as well by a field goal twenty six because I'm looking back at the Cincinnati Bengals defense. In the past three weeks, both Naji Harris and Nick Chubb have gone over a hundred yards from scrimmage against this Bengals defense. Cynthia mentioned that Joe Louisier is out and they're giving up a whole lot

of yards, especially on the ground. Both of those guys had two rushing touchdowns and now they're playing against Derrick Henry the last time these two teams played, Derrick Henry was coming off of the injury played in the playoff game, the game where Jeffrey Simmons was basically in the backfield the entire game. I think the Titans win this one

field goal may not be enough. And I'm with you, Greg, I don't understand how they're dogs at home and huh Patrick, you said you know they're gonna have to keep on looking to find that disrespect. Oh no, no, no, no, now further, baby, Leo, no further. I am going Bengals. I am taking a favorite twenty seven to twenty four. Yes, sing my national anthem, Cynthia. I know that you said maybe no, Jama Chase, I say nay. I'm gonna be positive about it. I think that he is coming back,

they said. Zachalis said he looked great this week when he was playing the last game, he played in two touchdowns over a hundred and thirty yards of the game right before that one two touchdowns him are hundred thirty yards. I think he comes back. I think they ball out. We think of this team as the Super Bowl hangover team. I think they've put up over seventy nine points in the last few games. Today, She's like, Canada's got the better Thanksgiving and I got the Bengals. That's right, that

is true, Titans. Take a screen grab of that, and if I'm wrong, don't send it to me. Okay, I know we had three games yesterday, but can we please just go back to Mexico City four days ago. Sure, we'll talk about it here in a second, but there's no way we will do it with this kind of enthusiasm. Take a look at this. They're three kolon come in, come on in, but dot it's a play action and flipped devol coming back together way left left by Croft and Frank Leggan And Okay, so m j Acosta was

at this game. I was just talking to her and she said that this was the closest atmosphere to a super Bowl outside of the super Bowl that she has ever experienced in her life. So much fun, Cynthia, good luck matching that energy. But I love to see you try. What do you like the super Bowl at at end point? When for the forty nine to seventeen in this matchup.

But I do want to talk about Chris Lava because I think there's a lot of good things that my other co workers here are going to say about the Niners, So I do want to talk about Alava and how he's been such this deep threat. And if there's one area that I'm looking at the San Francisco forty Niners on and I'm trying to see, are they going to be like the NFC representative in the Super Bowl and stopping those deep passes and those deep attempts that a

Lava has been so great at catching? The secondary is one area where I am like, is this the one spot that the Niners could be beat? So Chris Olavia could step up big here? All those are yards, all those receptions, He's having a great season. He should definitely be in consideration for Offensive Rookie of the Year if you haven't thought of it already. He's my pick so far. I love, but I don't love anything else about right. I know, I just don't even think that's gonna be close.

I have a thirty eight to ten Finals heading in the opposite directions. Yet, I mean, this Saints team I think are ready to give up. And when teams play against the Rams these days, you feel like they're kind of slump busters. The Rams. The fact that the Saints beat the Rams isn't going to solve anything. Jimmy Garoppolo is playing with a little more creativity, a little more verve. You saw last week here when he went up to the line of scrimmage, got them to think he was running,

then goes deep. When Jimmy Garoppolo starts adding in the second reaction improvisational skills, it's over for the defense. I think he's got a little more extra juice lately. Playbun's laughing, that's how little he respects Jimmy Garoppolo. Since those cheerleaders went over to Garoppolo and they didn't even act like Christian McCaffrey was there, I think Garoppolo has gone to another level back No, I was laughing at the kind

of sneak dis It's like Jimmy garoppolos making an unscripted play. Actually, it's my second most lopsided game of the week as well. I have the Fortys winning this one to eleven because while the scoreboard might not always reflect it, this is the top total defense in the entire NFL. And also since Elijah Mitchell came back after the Christian McCaffrey trade, they've been running the ball really well over a hundred

and fifty yards in back to back games. The Saints offense, other than crystal lava, like Cynthia mentioned, doesn't have a lot to speak of. I feel like this was one of the easier games for me to pick this make it a clean sweep. I am going the forty Niners as well, same with Cynthia. I think I have a ten point win, thirty four to twenty four. I will say this Sunday yesterday on Thanksgiving, we got a do over.

We got a mulligan for Super Bowl picks, and Cynthia, both her and I put the forty Niners in the Super Bowl. Oh yeah, mulligans are allowed. We write this script. Got the Kansas City Chiefs are fifteen and a half point favorites against the team that won the Super Bowl nine months ago. Football's wild, baby, football is wild. I don't need a mulligate on mine. I got the Chiefs

in the Super Bowl with the Eagles. No really, Okay, Time for the Drive to Excellence presented by Mercedes Ben Cynthia Christian Watson has been excellent for the Packers lately. Will they have enough juice against the nine and one Eagles to get this done, not to win, but I do think it's only a five point win twenty four to nineteen, which is maybe a little closer than some people are anticipating. Why because I think that they'll use

them Aaron Jones, I think rushing against this Eagles team. Yes, they have in domakong Wu. They brought him in, They brought they tried to figure out how to fill in those defensive tackles. But I do think advantage to Jones here, mostly because they're going to need to and especial you with some shorter passes. This is not a defense that I want to pick against. This is not a defense that I think is a fun one to face as

a quarterback. But I think Aaron Jones does give them a bit of an edge to keep things a little bit closer. Oh, we're on the same page against I'm trying to get you back on my good side. You didn't seem happy about the whole Crown thing earlier. I was. I feel bad it was from something. Now I could feel it. It doesn't like it because she's leading. We gotta give her crown. I know. I'm actually fine. Let's go Eagles that I love how can you and I will. Okay,

let's make it either way. I'm with Cynthia that it's going to be closer than people expect in this game. I expect the Packers to be competitive, but Jalen Hurts winning from the pocket is ultimately the difference. We know that they can run the ball, they'll probably give up yards on the ground, like Cynthia said, but watch that touchdown late in that Colts game. I love how Jalen Hurts read the middle of the field. It's everything everyone said Jalen Hurts couldn't do. This was a third and

two later in the game winning drive. He stayed in the pocket forever, waiting for a receiver to uncover. The big problem for Hurts, I think in his rookie year and his second year was not being patients, staying in the pocket and going through his reads. He's really developed. We know he's one of the best running quarterbacks in the league and sets up one of the best running games. But now he's making better decisions and he's just more comfortable.

He's calm, he's like he's a good looking guy. They're starting to give him national television at people are recognizing let's get on with Let's get on with it. I'm just saying, like the rest of the country is everybody's finally catching on to tagline. Let's get on with it. Let's get on with being attractive too. And honestly, the late rushing touchdown, because of course the deniers and the haters will say, oh, that's all he does is one that was a tendency breaker for the Eagles to call

a quarterback draw in that situation. And the game winner against the Colts, and that rushing offense, I think it's a big factor in this game. With top tim the pack there's bottom ten in terms of rushing defense, so they're gonna load up the box and that creates a situation where A J. Brown is going to be matched up one on one and it's going to be a bounce back game for him after two slower games, especially the Monday night game where he had the ankle injury.

I think it's a big day for a J. Brown. The Eagles win, not quite big enough to get the cover only one Philadelphias. We are all sharing the same brain today, same same Eagles. But I feel like the Packers kind of stay in it. We saw Aaron Rodgers kind of like not looking like Aaron Rodgers on Thursday Football a couple of weeks ago, and he was just kind of, you know, a little bit wonky. But I feel like after the game he actually took ownership of his mistakes and maybe he was a little bit hurt.

But the Aaron Rodgers that we've been seeing lately, he's throwing everybody under the bus. But this time around, he's like, this was my fault. I feel like, you know, a guy like Aaron Rodgers isn't gonna have two games in a row like that. I think he bounced back here and keeps it close again. The Eagles. Okay, guys, do you remember February? The Winter Olympics were a thing, and so were the Rams. They were great, so fun to watch,

played in the Super Bowl right over there. I just want Rams fans to remember the good times because the boy, yea, he might be grinding for a different reason right now. The season is not so great and and hey, look they've got the Chiefs this week. Okay, how bad is it gonna be? The spread is fifteen and a half. I believe that that's the biggest underdog to Sean McVeigh has been with the Rams. Who wants to start us off here will start us off because fifteen and a

half points is disrespectful. I've got a fifteen point Chiefs and the reason is I think the Rams are gonna keep this one on the ground. Uh no, Matthew Stafford out with the concussion, and then this got Kiren Williams comes in and get seven carries, you get plays fifty of the snaps. They also throw them the ball two times. Darrell Henderson, who have wondered like the Sean McVeigh not like him. Well something happened because Darrell Henderson is no

longer on the team. He's now in Jacksonville. I think it's a lot of Karen Williams again. For some reason, the Ramps keep the ball on the ground and it's it's really these are still professionals. Fifteen and a half points just feels like too much for too much. Seventeen for me, so that's kind of wild. Thirty three to

sixteen is my final score. I actually want to talk about the other running back because this cam Acres drama has been really interesting and I think when you're facing and what are you laughing at when you're facing a Chiefs defense like this one. I an, you're what you're laughing about here in a second here, Greg, But when you're facing a Chiefs defense like this and you have a lot of just keep Patrick Mahomes off the field is kind of We're gonna hear that over and over

and over again. You do want to run it, but I think you're gonna need to use both running backs and cam Akers getting back in the good graces or whatever whatever the drama is. I think we're gonna see a good game out of this kid. I've heard really good things about him just in general, about kind of

the rapport the fixed relationships. So I mean, you're not playing any of these people in fantasy, but in terms of what actually makes a difference of this game, I think both running backs, guys, I want to take you back. I want to take you back to I remember this is the first year that I was covering football and I was in a bar. This was like what a Thursday night football? It meant absolutely nothing, but the defense took the night off on both sides. This score was

fifty four to what fifty two? Rams winning in those weird jerseys. Gosh, those are ugly, Uh, This is not going to be like that. This is no more. Okay, we don't we don't circle the calendar for this game anymore. I have the Chiefs winning thirty five to seventeen. Just way too many injuries. Cooper Cup, no, Matt Stafford, no, no, even John Woolford. They got the backup of the backup of the backup, Rice Perkins. I'm going Chiefs. So what we went from fifteen to eighteen, I will go to twenty.

But I'm gonna make it more fun. It's four dy to twenty Chiefs, and I feel bad. My daughter is actually here today and she's a huge ran. So let's talk positive about the rams with Perkins is gonna start in this game, and I think that's gonna make it watchable. I've been lucky enough to watch a lot of Bryce Perkins in the preseason in person, and you know what, He's feisty. I think Sean McVeigh, with a full week to prepare with him as the starters, can just start

getting funky, start getting weird. Use his legs. He's a he's a playmaker. I think they put up points in this game. I do think he'd be a sneaky fantasy pick up for this game, because I think you get fifty sixty rushing yards, that they can score points. Because Steve Spagnola, the Chief's defensive coordinator, he's just gonna blitz them like crazy, get aggressive, and I think Perkins can make some place and at least it'll be fun. Like

let's see it, Sean McVeigh. We've heard it out smart sometimes when when quarterbacks are having their first official NFL start, there's some magic that could happen. There's some magic. Can we gotta do you? Do you agree? Are you? Thumbs up? Okay? Thumbs up? Maybe they stay in the game a little bit. Okay, coming up after the Brave, we're talking Raiders and give me the name Greg dude, oh writer Seahawks a little late there, but I was like, wait a, yeah, we'll

see you bright and early on Sunday. Speaking up, we got a big Sunday coming up and then Steelers Colts on Monday night. Greg, the floor is yours. Who do you like in this one? I like the Steelers in this game. I like seventeen for Pittsburgh. I actually am more excited about this game than I you would think because the last couple of weeks, these two teams have gotten watchable. That includes Kenny Pickett, that includes Nase Harris

having a little more juice. You've just seen a rookie coming out of there by just a little more confident going down the field. Get George Pickens involved more. Nase Harris just did not run with a lot of juice earlier in the season, and you've seen it the last couple of weeks. They're gonna have a lot of Jeff Saturday content. You know, they've got the inside scoop and wouldn't it just be fun to see the Steelers go

ruin the party. That's just maybe makes me sound like a small person, but I I have a lot of Jeff Saturday. I worked with Jeff Saturday. Okay, I'm just saying, can't you imagine Mike Tomlin and the boys kind of going on? I mean, I guess what I think Jeff Saturday gets to win three twenty in this matchup? Why? John Nathan Taylor? That's it. Stay with me when you see the difference with him in a did you say gino,

yeah no, yeah, no, I understand. Yeah, So Jonathan Taylor makes a big difference right when he's back in the lineup. There's a lot of good things that happened, not just for him, but also for Matt Ryan. I also think that when you compliment him and their secondary, I think that's a nice winning formula against the Steelers that we've seen some some some weirdness this year, a little bit of weirdness, and how do you stay away from t J. Watt?

You run? They're gonna need to because earlier in the season when Matt Ryan had to move, that's when the Colts offense really had problems. I think t J. Watt is going to force him off of his spot. But over on the other side, it's it's George Pickens. George greg mentioned it going back talking about George Pickens. Since Kenny Pickett became the starting quarterback, he leads them in targets,

receiving yards, and touchdowns. I think we see a lot of George Pickens in this matchup, and uh, the Steelers win it and what might feel like a score fest considering how these offenses were a few weeks ago Pittsburgh from I'm with you, Cynthia, I am going in this one. Listen with the Jeff the Jeff Saturday experiment and in

the beginning, we're all like, what's this gonna be? They beat the Raiders, like, okay, that's fine, But then they lose to the Eagles by just one and they also hold the Eagles to the lowest amount that they have scored all season, only seventeen points. That's got to count for something. I'm going seventeen Jeff Saturday's Colts. Then we'll maybe be seeing in a different tune next week. Okay, it is time for quick picks. Uh, Greg, we all

laughed at you. Usually we actually do, but we all laughed at you as you took the Raiders week after week. You proved us wrong last week, But will you do it again against you know, my team? No, We're going with no non to twenty one, largely because of Gino and those mismatches on the outside, DK Metcalfe and Tyler Lockett against this Raiders secondary, I think are just going to feast. It wasn't I'm a huge fan of the Raiders thing. It's just they played a bunch of easy teams.

Seattle not an easy team. I think they're ready to go on a run here at the end, maybe win that love. I wish they want in Munich. Still up. Okay, Patrick, Chargers Cardinals. The Hard Knocks cameras were watching. Have you got I will be watching as well. I've actually got the Chargers in this one. But consider ring the Chargers one my score. The Chargers wins have come. E been teams that are combined fifteen thirty five and one, and the team that they're playing is a little bit better

because this man, Kyler Murray is back. He's not doing this, He's not staying on the sideline. He will be playing. I know the Monday night football broadcast was really proud about the vibes or something that Colt McCoy brings. I think Kyler Murray is a starter for a reason, and the offense is gonna be a little bit funny. You want to take the Cardinals. I know this to be a fact. You told me yes. But I would like to win, and so I'm going to go with who I think is gonna win to produce, I am doing

what I want. Greg trying to get me to I wanna say, no bold picks coming. I picked the Texans last week. This problem got a lack of okay sin Texas Dolphins, miamire two touched on favorites. Can the Texans even keep it close? Can they survive? I know, I mean you tried. I don't know. I didn't have a better answer and have like a witty response here. Fourteen is what Kyle Allen's making the start. I think Kyle Ellen under pressure or something that we now understand a

bit more about. It's not a great situation for him when that happens. The Dolphins have been generating tons of pressure. They even traded for more pressure this trade deadline. So when I'm talking about this Allan situation, you talk about quarterbacks having a little bit of magic when they first start, when they maybe, but it also feels like the guys who catched the passes seemed a little angry to I don't know what a risks last personal injury is, but

that seems to be and maybe plays. But they're not happy that they got Kyle Allen. Oh, I just think they're I don't think it has anything to do with Kyle Allen. I think it has more to do with I don't know. I once watched Kyle Allen win a game in London, which not that many people have done. Unfortunately, the Texans defense also to play in this game, and they're not gonna be out there as well, unfortunately too Ago. Okay, all right, Patrick, Bears Jets, we already know you never

take the Jets. Haven't done it all year, haven't bothered? Are you doing it? Surely you're not. I'm taking the Jets. I'm taking the Jet. Somebody needs to take the Bears here, seriously, though, I mean, no, I'm not. And because I owed New York, I'm very sorry. I have an apology specifically to issue here, and it is to this man, one super Bowl champion in Joe Flacco. I know it's gonna be Mike White starting, but look at Joe Flacco lightening it up. At the

start of the season. I was getting jokes off. I was like, Joe Flacco have five touchdowns, three interceptions. I would have the Jets covering in this game. But because of the Joe Flacco disrespect, is not even playing in this game any sense, because we look back and we apologize that. So I'm apologized. When I ask you a question, Yes, we're talking about Jack Wilson. The commercial break said it doesn't really matter who's starting for this team what not. Well,

I do know one thing. There's been a lot of talk about the press conference for Zack Wilson as if that matters. It literally does not matter. It matters how you execute and play on the field. There's a whole bunch of he's not taking enough, who cares like he's throwing the ball to people, and he's not, and so they put him on the bench, and that's why he's on the said he needed a reset. It's just like

it's like, you know, your reboot. I mean you need to reset to like playing in college behind that offensive line. The key part about your Joe Flacco point to me was he's not Zack Wilson, and that's what's good at quarterback for the Jets. Just anyone that's not Zach Wilson. Okay, coming up after the break, we're talking, Oh my goodness, this game guys, who buck up? Broncos Panthers, Sam Donald is by Mayfield? Who you know it's gonna be a barn Burner I certainly don't make or Mayfield who Banker?

I love you. Still two teams just barely outside the playoff picture going at it in Atlanta. The Commanders are four point favorite. Cynthia, what do you think I have a three point win for the Commanders in this twenty three to twenty It's interesting because I wanted to talk about Drake London on the other side of this matchup, because for my model to be very stingy is like normal, and for it to have a Drake London touchdown I felt was worthy of bringing up here on this show.

So Drake London obviously no Kyle Pits in this matchup, and targeting the secondary of the Commanders is a far higher value proposition than running against them. So when I'm looking to see where will the points come from, Drake London, there you go. Welcome to the end zone. Yeah. I don't know if I'm at the point where I trust the Commanders like I feel like that's a dangerous spot to be. So I have the mooning by one, which is not by four, So it's not a lot of confidence.

But their defense is playing great. If you think back to a couple of years ago, it is all about their defensive line when they won that division, all that magical seven and nine seasons, scoring like fifteen points a game with Alex Smith. But the same guys are there, Jonathan Allen and Deron Payne. They stuff the run. They are one of the toughest teams to run on in football. Mantes sweat. Everyone knows he gets the pressures, he can

stop the run. Two on the edge like. They are very well coached, and that's the reason they've won all these games in a row. It's not because of Taylor Heineken, not that he's doing anything bad. He's just there. But it's the defense. And if you can stop the run, you can probably stop the Falcons. And so I'm taking them by a plan, but I don't feel great about it. The Falcons kill me every week. I'm always around. Yeah, it's one of these things where it's like, what's the

Falcons team that's gonna show up. There's the Falcons team that held the forty to fifty yards rushing not too long ago. I am going to pick against the Commanders here and this one. And it's kind of the same reason that I fraudulently picked the Texans last week. But look at what happened in this game. I'm like, Oh, the Texas are gonna do this. Taylor Harneck is gonna throw picks, he's gonna put the ball in risk. And then the Texas Texans did up one well, it just happened.

It happens every week over and over again where Taylor Haneke is taking chances with the ball and things just wind up working out. And I think this is the week, this has to be the week where it doesn't and uh Cynthia mentioned the opportunity on the outside for Drake London. Benjamin St. Juice has been out of practice all week, one of the better corners, one of the guys that

isn't making plays. I've got the Falcons. The Commanders have something that I would like to call like chaotic confidence, like it really shouldn't be there, but for some reason they have it. I'm taking the Commanders or a win over here. Seventeen. I don't know if you guys have seen this, but Taylor Heineke has been purchasing shoes in the color of the opponents that he defeats, so like Texas last week, I'm like, where's I don't know why you have so much confidence? He always got picked off

seven hundred times. He bought a pair of sneakers that are like Texans colors. He did it with the Eagles, he did it with the Packers, he did it with the Colts. That's chaotic confidence. You've got to be a little bit like I don't known deranged to be that confident in this kind of position to be buying sneakers. So I'm buying in. I am buying in on the chaotic confidence. Okay, at Defense one Championships, the Broncos would

have been they'd be all set, you guys. In fact, if they had just scored eighteen points in every game this season, they'd be seven in three instead of three and seven turns out offense. It matters a little bit. Patrick sam Donald is making his first start this season against that Broncos defense. The Panthers are home underdogs. Will Russell help out that defense and not pull Zack Wilson.

I think he will help out in the capacity where he's the quarterback and he'll take the snap and the ball won't immediately go to the to the other team. But but that's about it. That this Panthers offense with Baker Mayfield as the starting quarterback, was averaging sixteen points a game. I think Sam Donald was better than Baker Mayfield, even though this is his first start. So I'll give

them the boost there. And the Broncos only averaging fourteen points seven points per game, just based on that, like, at some point this game is going to be over and everybody will hopefully be in a better position. But but I've I've got the Carolina Panthers winning, uh seventeen to fifteen. Nathaniel Hacket always says somebody's gotta somebody's gotta

Winel Hackett. This week, I've got to nine, no touch And I'm going to talk about the Panthers defense either because Sam darnaland Donald Settling, like the Donald versus Baker Mayfield debate is like now the most pointless sports argument of all time. Let's talk a little Jeremy Chin and j C. Horne. This secondary is better when those two guys are out there and balling. I love how versatile Chin is. He was making plays last week. J C. Horne is one of the best young cornerbacks in the league.

And that's why I think Russell Wilson will not have a touchdown in this game. They're actually gonna get two of these field goals on a short field because of turnovers and special teams, and they win twelve to nine. Look how specific all of that specific? While okay, so I kind of have something similar in terms of final score in nineteen to fifteen. In favor of the Broncos. I want to give some love to the Broncos secondary.

It didn't look as great last week, and we've seen because obviously, look when you faced Devonte Adams, it's always going to be difficult. But Pat's her tan. He's one of the best young corners in our league. Arguably next season we'll probably talk about him as like maybe the best, right if they get a little bit of help, a little bit of run support there with their offense. But this secondary, like this is something special. They've got a

very very special back end of that defense. So it should get to I feel like we say, like a lot of things about the Broncos was like want, want, because the offense is a little lackluster, but the secondary a plus. They've done a great job. They keep getting better, just good things. We're truly tired of talking about Russ and Wilson that somebody talks about the Broncos. All I hear is won't want won't Charlie Brown of the secondary?

Secondary is just Charlie Brown's Sunday. This has got to be the lowest hours that we've given any team this season, any any game this season, I'm going tend to second for like that's Broncos screen of him this and then posted up in your backer room. This is where that This is the disrespect that you guys were that the Titans are looking for. It's belonging to the Broncos and the Panthers. It's just two like very bad offenses and the one good defense. So that's what I'm going I'll

take the stray bond. And also I feel bad about talking bad about this game. There is something exciting that we'll get to see and that is too absolutely dreadful offenses and defenses. Uh, they're gonna make turnovers, like like like look at this, these offenses turn the ball over. We got the late strip by the Baltimore Ravens and then you know Russell. I know we weren't going to talk about him, but he's served up some opportunities for

the opposition this season. So yeah, even though it's it's not Baker, we still get to see some Baker picks back to back stray bonds. The dogs are barking they did they didn't work out for you that they did, Okay, Tom Brady hasn't had to work since he got back from Germany two weeks ago. Gee, how nice for Tom. Some of us don't need time. Who am I getting up by week would be great? How long is this commercial coming out? I need a nap. I had too

much turkey. Don't go anywhere. Okay, it's time for over under. Let's talk about this. Bucks Brown's game. Over under is at forty two and a half Tom Brady versus his former backup, Jacoby Brissette. I am taking the over. Tom Brady was fun in Germany. He tried to catch a touchdown. He's out of his mind right now. He tried it

was happening. We all laughed collectively in Germany. Also, Jacoby Brissette, this is going to be his last start for the Browns, right, and he just said this week, I think I've proven myself as a starting quarterback somewhere in the league. I hope he balls out for this team. I am going over. Jacoby Brisset has been better than half the quarterbacks in the league, but I'm still going under for this game. Yeah, because Jacoby Brissette and Tom Brady two of the best

quarterbacks in the world. At quarterback sneaks third and one fourth one. That's how Jacoby learned it back in the day. But I think there's gonna be a lot of running, a little more defense, especially out of the Bucks, not a lot of great passing in this game, oh four. So that's more I like this one. I think that I'm gonna go with what Rachel said. Time Rady's fun. I like it. I like that everyone collectively laughed at him after it didn't work out too. That was very

funny as well. But when when I'm looking at this game realistically, I think that the run opportunity against the Bucks is going to be very difficult. So it's going to have be a lot more passing with some Donovan people's jones fixed in there. You know, that's been a nice thing for fantasy purposes. I've got the over as well, because I'm with you, Rachel. Jacoby Brissette has been bawling.

He had his second career at three hundred plus yard three touchdown game against the Buffalo Bills, and I'm I do believe that he deserves a shot at being the starting quarterback and the Bucks offense is better, So why not points? Why not? Okay, why not? Why not points. Okay, Ravens jag similar situation here over under at forty three and a half. But I've got the Ravens winning twenty one to ten. That is the under. How many they put up against the Panthers only thirteen, I'm going under.

I am going under as well, twenty to seventeen. Ronnie Stanley is out for the Ravens. I think that's one of the biggest injuries to watch in the league over the next few weeks. It's not gonna be a season ending injury, but they are not the same offense with Adam DeMarcus Robinson is their number one cornerback. I think this Jaguars defense is more talented than they've shown. They should play better. I've got twenty nineteen, so that's more

points in this one when I'm looking at. Okay, the Ravens game, that was interesting against the Panthers, but I don't think that happens twice. Now that Ronnie Stanley isn't playing, I think that they will figure out to run a little bit more ahead of time, and then we'll see a lot more. Mark Andrews's getting back in after that injury, So you know, I think that that we'll see a ton more catches from him. Yeah, I've got one Baltimore Uh squeaking by by Justin Tucker field goal. I'm not

that bothered by Marcus Robinson. I wish that the Ravens had more ed wide receiver, but considering that Lamar won an m VP with at least need as his wide receiver one, I think weeks at uh. I mean, really's got family, he's a fan of the show. I lovely Steed. Your face wasn't telling him some big moments with the s. It's just you know, you watch A J. Brown playing for the Eagles and you're like, oh, that would be nice for Lamar. Okay. Final question a little surprise over

under thirty candles on Patrick's birthday. Under it's a cool twenty seven baby. Come on, come on, we're going over. Are you doing anything fun for your birthday? I'm doing game debut with you guys. The go to meal is honestly, honestly, I got garlic beef shaker noodles from a place that one lunch. It's just for me. It's my favorite thing. You're not gonna let your family have any of it. It's just for you. Well, that was that was just for me. Go home and they can have whatever. This

birthday is like a quiet lunch by yourself. That's a dad that that means. It's more than thirty candles. If you're that's the only way that you never more than on a happy, happy birthday. Coming up next, it is right this down something we are feeling very confident in. Mine might be a little bit polarizing for some. I've been singing this. I've been singing this all day. Greg and I got in a fight about it earlier. Fight. Yeah, who's the bully? Now it got rough. Okay, it's time

to write this down. I'm sure that man would absolutely hate my write this down today, but I gotta say there's has nothing to do with football. Okay, turkey is not good turkeys trash. In fact, we all saw the vikings. They were surrounded by these cold and crusty turkey legs. Adam feeling spat it out on the field because it was some nasty turkey. Not good. Okay, you're not happy. I don't want to deal with it everyone. I want to season Rachel's turkey. I want to cook Rachel's turkey properly.

Always think if like salt pepper doesn't count if somebody's like, you're gonna need a little bit. Because if people boiled Ribby and they were like RIBI doesn't say you shouldn't boil, it's not good. It's not good. I just put up with it. All food is good if it's if it's made, I'll say that, but not if turkeys on it. All right, you know who's gonna be a bunch of turkeys this week? The Saints. I don't know that was so terrible. Ers are eight and a half point favorites. I've got the

winning by twenty eight. We've got the time of the season where some of these teams are already ready to go home, and I think the Saints are one of those teams. I think there as injured as almost any team in the league. I think there is poorly coached overall, and they're disorganized and they're playing a buzz saw. This line gives them way too much credit. I could put it at two touchdowns and I'd still be happy to

take the fort is calling. I love that you made a dad joke and your kids are sitting right there and you're not paying. They're shaking their head, they're like they're really really dead. Okay, so I'm giving you two because it's Thanksgiving. I'm gonna give you a two here. I think that Tyler Lockett catches at least six passes. That one sounds really easy to do. And Foster Moreau, congratulations, you're gonna catch at least four passes this week. Both

of those things are going to happen. You get your extras. You don't even need to reheat them. Their fresh picks for your I've got a guy who delivers every single year like turkey that is cooked properly, and that is one Derrick Henry he will have. There are people who were out there like, oh, Derrick Henry might not have a hundred yards rushing. No, he's gonna have a hundred yards rushing against the Cincinnati Bengals, who again have given up two out the last three games, plus a hundred

yards scrimmage to running backs in each job. And Najie Harris Derrick Henry, all right, we've done this show with my children wading in the week. They're the biggest fans of game game over guys. This is Alice, of course, and this is Walker. And they said, you know, before we went on they said, well, after this, we'll be famous, right, And that's right, You're gonna be a going viral, all right, you guys want to wave to get back? Hi guys,

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