Tony Dorsett on his 99-yd TD run, being in select Heisman Trophy & Hall of Fame group, and being a grandpa - podcast episode cover

Tony Dorsett on his 99-yd TD run, being in select Heisman Trophy & Hall of Fame group, and being a grandpa

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Ep. #19: Peanut and Roman are joined this week by NFL Hall of Fame running back and Cowboys great, Tony Dorsett. The hosts start off by asking what it’s like to be a Hall of Famer and how often he wears his gold jacket. They also find out that it’s hard to keep your jacket pristine and what happens if it gets ruined. Tony also gives the guys an inside scoop into his illustrious 99-yd TD run and what it’s like holding a record that can only ever be tied. Dorsett is one of only 10 players to have won the Heisman Trophy and be inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. He talks about how much of an honor it is to be in such elite company and how it feels surreal for him due to the amount of great players that do not share this accolade. Tony then discusses how much different the game of football is today and what it was like being a smaller back in such a physical era. Today, Tony spends his time with family and talks about how much joy he gets from being a grandfather.

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What was the control player of Second Acts podcast. I'm Peanut Tillman, and as always I got my guy, Roman Deacon. That's that's like the that's the same Roman Deacon Harror. I appreciate that, Peanut. Look. I don't know if it's a compliment or a scary start to the morning. But now our guest today has already told us that we kind of looked like and I don't know, that's the first time I've ever heard that. I was like, I think we've been hanging out a lot together. That's maybe

that's what it is, my old road here. It's a great boy, it's a great start, all right. I want to come out first of all, because we went to you up right in Our guest today is uh. I don't want to hold him up too much, and he's fired up. He's gonna be great laughs and already give

us a great personality in conversation this morning. So before we do that, I want to thank all of our listeners for tuning in constantly give us a rating, a review and also makes you hit that follow button and tell a friend to tell a friend anywhere you listen to podcasts with its Apple podcast, iHeartRadio or anywhere else you listened to podcast makes you tune in to us and give us a review. So thank you for that and peean up when you give us the honest. So

who we got this morning? We are blessed with a Hall of Famer, one of the greatest running backs of all time, mister Tony Dorset. Welcome to the pod. So I think you want to dress? I want to. I didn't want to bring this up early, but we gotta dressed the elephant in the room, all right. So, mister Tony, So, I've grown up knowing you so much and revered you in high, high regards because my mom, all right, my mom and dad have been married forty some years, raised

me my love my mom and death. But she has always told me since I was a little kid, and I hope I embarrass you right here. It's two guys. She would leave my dad for number one Kareem Abdul at your bar and number two Tony Dorset. So now getting to meet you finally, it isn't honor you are the man, y'all. Y'all, y'all kind of looking like look y'all got to say it's ever hair. Yeah, you know what I'm saying you just got to bed. I'm not, but it is. It's an awesome day. It is awesome

to try to put that out here. You say, I got to meet you. So I'm gonna tell my mom lay oh like and she'll be like, did you take a picture to get something sign? I'm like, I don't love why, but it's good. It's great. It's great to meet your great ham. You're all of famer and you've been retired for a while, and this podcast is really about former players, kind of their second acts and kind of what they're doing right now. So you've been retired for a minute. Can I ask what have you been

up to lately kind of since the retirement. Take care of my grandchildren? Okay, I'm doing mother boys. I got my son has as a little boy, and my daughter has a little boy okay, okay, and one of them Hawk, My nickname is Hawk okay. And my son's name his his his boy hockey and name and so uh, I go with him and you know, he sports and I try to keep him the curious and doing what and do all these things. And then my daughter has a little Drew. Drew is my middle name, so little little

Drew's baby, Drew, he's Drew's baby. He's one years old. But but he just man, I just I have I have so much joy. But those boys come around me. Man, I just I feel like a little kid and I just grew out and play with and hell good. So this kind of makes you feel good though, like that you know your kids, they they took your name and they naming their kids out do like that legacy kind of still right right carries on. Man, it's a good feeling,

you know. And it's and it's like, you know, with my son decided to do this, you know name the name is Hockey, and I'm like, why what you're doing? Then you come around but heah, man get Hockey. Man. He's just he's just a wonderful kid. I mean he's good with school and all that stuff. And and my my other grand should I mean Drew baby, Threw I called it Drew baby, and he's just Papa, Papa, Papa. He just loved me. Man, I just love it. I just love with my grandchild. I think there's no greater

love than a grandparent with a grandchild. And I see that with my parents. My parents are watching my kids and I'm here right now with my wife, and it's really funny because my dad was so hard on me, and all of a sudden, I see him rolling on the ground with my kids. I'm like, you never rolled on the ground with me. Never, not one time. I see my mom throw a football with my daughter and I was like, I've known you my whole life. You've never throw me a path like never? Never? One time?

Did you? Did you do these things for grandkids? Oh? Yeah, baby, know what she did? And then missing? They're missing you. You know he's missing. You didn't get a chance to do it with you, But now they can do it with they grandchild. You don't want to make sure they get that point being before things changed for them. But let's let's say that's a great thing, man, I tell you. But then what a good thing about it all? Le send them all? Yeah that's yeah, that's that's what my

dad said. So I don't know if you would watched the honor show here today, They just inducted the newest members of the INFA Hall of Fame. Um, what did you think about the class? They inducted? U Zach Thomas, DeMarcus Ware andree Reevers Jodelnde Barber, Joe Joe Thomas. Yeah, I think it's I think it's a good class of players, done well for themselves and years if they've played. I'm not really familiar with them a whole lot of the guys because you know, when when I moved away from football,

I kin moved away. They should that then. But I still love the game. I love watching guys play. I love them. Now do you go to the ceremony that they have in canon every year or so often? Yeah? You get it, man, I love putting on that, you know jacket. That was gonna be the question. So how often do you wear your gold jacket? Like, do you ever just catch yourself in the morning, get me some coffee and I'm just gonna go ahead, just put on this thing and just got to sit here and watch

some TV yourself. You have, don't wear it out, man, it's the household. Oh yeah, I see it, because that is awesome, you know, jacket man, gonna go very well with me, the cool man. Have you ever still anything on the coach? How many goldso you get? Give you You'll give you one if you if you that's a

great question. If you you want to get what you get the one coach, but they will duplicate one before you get if something happens to the one that you have got you all right, So so give me a story of what happened to the first time you messed up your jacket probably scared you, or the first time you try to stain on it or something. Oh I got real man, I was. I was like one of those things. I want fight realism on my jacket, you know, because because I'm like, man, I didn't have a dream.

I didn't even know about the Hall of Fame. But I the kid growing up. Man, I was like, oh man, I'm like, wait, you mess up my jacket? Man? You may go boy, yeah, man, But it's it's intergreating for guys to be involved. So one group of guys, you know, one one guy in particular, who, as I've read and read more about you and you have the special relationships are over him and yeah, I know that's you. Guys. He claims you as one of his heroes, his football

hero specifically. Could you maybe give us a little bit of insight on how that relationship for him, because it's not like nowadays where guys have social media, so they're friends and they get recruited all together. How did that relationship for him? And then how did that relationship grow from there? But I think about it is h I've always wound to be a bigger run. I wanted to be a beaten back man. And and when Earl came, because you know, obviously you go before the year Jimber,

I didn't. I wanted to wear all that cop I didn't see CC, but I seen Earl. Man. I used to watch you play against the Stews. And I grew up in Pittsburgh area, Yeah, and the still curtain. Man was just I was just unbelievable. And Earl was just like I was like, man, how is it run through these guys like this? How does he do with this? I said, tell her? I said Earth. I said, I see, let's say Earth. And why don't you that one guy tackled you sometimes? I said, man, I know you think

this is gonna last? Man, I said, Man, you that like King Colin out there just guys everything. But man, that's it's a great gather. So let's talk about you grew up in the still curtain, are right? You're from you from Pennsylvania and uh, hope on pronounces right, Aliquippa. That's it, quick the quick, So I did it? Ain't like eight thousand people. It's a super right, super small town. Y'all got some dolls that coming out of all equippent.

So is yourself your nephew that I didn't know, tyle long? And then you got the real reeves all in the excuse me, all in the hall of fame. My dick is round. We got four. Y'all got four. Y'all got four Hall of Famers in the town of like eight thousands. Yeah, yeah, small, drive right through it, like through you go. What is that? You got one red lay? Oh my? How much pride do you guys taking that knowing that you guys have four gold jackets. We town, we don't even have that

many people that's made through the NFL. Yeah, you've got even closer. How do you how much pride are you taking that knowing that your hometown has produced four Golden Helpers. It's it's the whole county. I like to see it. You know, we put we played there and uh what

what what be the country? Be the county? And you know we had a lot of great athletes, not just in football, but basketball, baseball, wrestling, all of it, you know, and we took a lot of pride and from the fact that saying, yeah, you know everybody's talking about what this is what football country? This is that, and this is that, And when you come to out of the fotball, man, it's a steel medal. Yeah usually Still you know, man, you see still you know it's it's nothing like that, Like,

I mean, how do you guys come out? How do you think all this many football players out here? But what it's not. You don't have a whole lot of football fields, you don't have a whole lot of students and stuff going into school. But you know, it was just guy just took a lot of pride in themselves and we we usul wished to always say, man, you know we we can stand up against anybody. Oh yeah, clearly clearly famous. Yeah, nobody else can say that. So I want to know this one more thing too, is uh,

I know the game has changed. Football is not what it was when you were playing, nor was it when we were playing not too long ago. And the product of football now do you still enjoy watching it? How what is your love factor on the scale or so whatever that is a football I'm a football guy. I you know, it's it's kind of been pempered. Seems like man, you know, it's like, you know, it's like man begging

the days. Man. I was like, man, the way the boys was hitting people, yeah, and doing things that they do. I mean, but there's a lot of talent out there, but they just and it probably made it a little more, I say, say for the guys, you know, because we came back or they would hit you and they would keep on hitting. You were talking about your grandson loving sports and seven on seven has been a really big push to like kind of take the ease off of

the contact with sports and football. Would you encourage your grandson to go to play football or want to do seven on seven instead of playing football with pads? Early? Man, I hadn't debate all the time at all, you know, doing I know, you know, I wanted them to play the game that we played, and that's the way I can only visualize football. We played. Football is physical, aggressive, you know, I want to see that. I don't want

to take that away from it. You know, I think they've done a good job with the referee, but they took a lot of some of the dirtiness. You want to say, yeah, and it made it safer. And I think the game's contact. Man, you want to play people football, you gotta you have to take a little contact. Dukes later first African American named to the College Football Paul

of Fame. As we continue to celebrate Black History Month across the league, we share the accomplishments of the past, and President Dukes later overcame racial bias to earn selections to both the college and Pro football hauls of Fame. The tackle from Iowa was a three time All Big Ten selection and All American and the first African American named to the College Football Hall of Fame. In the Pro rings, Slater was a five time first team All Pro.

Only the errors prevented discrimination checked him from being named to the NFL's All Decade Team of the nineteen twenties. However, he would earn his due in twenty twenty when he was named to the centennial class of the Pro Football Hall of Fame. So, Rome, we saw you with Earl Earl Campbell. You're saying you were making your way through radio row. I looked on. I was gonna answer, I've seen you before. I know your size, your frame, little guy. I did not know that I was man, not as

big as I thought. I thought it was so much bigger there. Everybody, even when I when I was playing, when they would see me in the off season, they're like my jumping man, they didn't know I was as small as I was. But what I did was see I said, I had extra large shoulder pads. I had girdle pads, have real pass, have large stop pass. I had four months in my knee, pass my food bed, run springs. Just as we tell we played, we get a playa man. You know, ugly this chest. I said, yeah,

what I don't give it. There, ain't remit over there trying to take me out of this. I said, I got to pass it up. Bro. I mean you feel like it means you think it slowed you down to having all that extra of course, when you're scared, when you running scared, hey there, you much don't show you down. So so talking about not stowing you down number one, Just what you just said, I mean, it's amazing that a fullback tails a running back. Bro. You dressed ugly.

I got that. Everybody just stood on that. I'm just saying about me, y'all said, my star was black. It was terrible. We had a big biotic elbow braid you know it snack. Guess what I didn't get a damn yeah, you give a damn home. And like, I know, if you know that actually didn't slow you down? Of course, not tell me about this. How does it feel your record ninety nine yard run? It can never be broken, It can only be tied, which you has been tied before.

And I watched your highlight and I watched the run number one? Is that your favorite run of all time? And how much credit do you give your wide receiver that was that Drew forgetting that blocked down there? And kind of said it for you? Or did you? I ain't really need him because he really did he be really didn't touch you, right. I used to tell about why receivers. I said, look, you don't have to knock him down. Get in the way and I'll do the rest.

I'll make him. I'll make him get wait why I want him to be and you can get in his weight and then it's old, you know. But Drew and drew every long run that I have, Drew Pierson was part of it. He was always one one of the guys that's just getting in the way. I just get it in a way, bro, I'm going from there. And that play, it was just a simple die player. You don't have to tell about the specifics of the play. But it wasn't a fantasy play. Call now and we

you know, we only ten minute on the field. I didn't know that either. I don't something if if, if we had never met on the field, it would have been our full back Ron Springs running the play. And I just always did run. You think you could win ninety nine yards? Man, come on back, give it the carture. Man. You know you couldn't run that in that So he turns to you don't want to He knew he wasn't in.

I mean, obviously you knew he wasn't there, right, So well, y'all didn't want to call like a tom, but I think it was he was the one that muff the kick off, right, the one east, y'all whatever, And so he ran off the field. And then when he heard the play. I heard the play. I heard the play being called, so we could run that with single back fromish or I formix right, So Roll thought he heard single back formation was jayhawk is the formation we called. And so he stayed on the sideline and all the

guys are telling them. I said, get out. Think you gotta run the play. You gotta run the play. A Rollin's response to all that was like, man, you gotta be crazy. He said, if I run out on that field and we get a punality on the one each other, he said, Tom, now you go. Couldn't be right spot as he said. You know, he said he had to And I didn't know what they said that. I thought you had to have. You never met on the field, so he had he had to wear with all to

understand that we can un play with ten. He said, don't matter, and I was saying, okay, man, I'm glad you did. I thought you would have got a five fold ten. I didn't know that. No, you can't play with ten. You just can't play with twelve. I think that that's the rule. You can play with ten now.

Now one thing I think is a little bit special. Um, well, I know it's special, and I didn't know it was such a stat And that's your um your heisman to haul community and or break rivers on your shirt right now? Eight stage and uh could you tell me what's the and um, what's been the most important thing for you

to make sure you stick around the game. You're around it, and you also have this around amongst all these legends, a small group of legends inside of all these grades, with these uh the guys that have won a Heisman and are in the Hall of Fame. It's ten of you guys total throughout all of the football grades. It is amazing here. How does that make you feel? Could you just break all this down? And you're talking about earlier likely? Yeah, yeah, you know you keep saying you

see said the word it makes you feel great. I say, I would like all the great players, gel says George Jim Brown. You can go all and on and on and on about all these great players, man, quarterbacks, you running backs, most most running backs, and it's like I'm like, wow, that's all I said, all these big players. But I mean, sweetness, well the pain come on, didn't get a high? Yeah,

just like I would saying. Now right there, I say, man, God, I said, when you when you look at it, when you think about it, you said, damn, you know because you did sometimes especially Yeah. Yeah, so you guys are doing a perfect ten documentary and it's through the NFL Films production about you ten guys who have won the Heisman and all show in the Hall of Fame. Now, um it airs you out the month of February on

the FS one. We're gonna make sure everybody tunes in for that support these great gentlemen who have been stewards of the game that we've all grown up watching and just don't know how legendary they are until they get into this uh special community that you guys are. You know this it caught me. It's kind of chocolate. You know, It's like it made me feel a little good because everything everybody when I was playing, you know, they're like, man, you chose small man. You know how you do this?

I say? I said, man, I said, look then, piece of leather, well put together. Don't you worry about you just try to cutch tied. We all put saying it again, pive this piece of leather we all put together, We all put together. Yeah, that's that's you know, he said that a lot of guys that oh yeah, you know, he said. I said, Okay, see, I'll see you. I'll

see you next time. Let's see, let's see what you're gonna do the questions We'd like to ask a lot of the guests I come on the show, is if there was a mount Rushmore of people that have had influence or mentor or just some positive output on your life, who would those people be? We we we we We've done our a few times. If you had to pick your mount rushmore or four people, who would those four people be? Four older Ruthers? There was there was, There

was Melvin was earnest. There was Tyrone, who was the one that that I was. I was old enough at time to see him put it. And there was keying. And the thing is I always wanted to be like my brothers. My brothers were exceptional athletes in high school. None of them went off to college. But and that was one thing they all pitched then and say you're not gonna make this mist people. You're going to college, right, you know. But they wented too with jan had to

steal meld in the area. And I was like, man, wow, but I seen my brothers, man, my mother. So the original TV as I called him, Tyrone, I had never seen anybody but the ball like you. And you know, I was just trying to be like my brothers. Yea, they motivated and that was the best example you had growing up. It's like, man, I want to just be like them. And you don't know where that will take you. It's amazing when you talk to people about seven goals

things like that and you don't know what. You don't know, Jacually, man, and you know, I was like going to college and I'm about to college. All these colleges is coming in recruited me, and I'm like, wow, man, I got it, I got it, I got it. I guess I got what it takes to play at the higher level. And so man, I was I because my brothers, my mom and dad. Man, it was just everybody was just it. It was almost like a party. That's a great feeling. That's gotta be a great feeling. And are you the

youngest of I'm the youngest of five boys. I'm the sixth of seven child. I have a younger sister. The first one was the girl. The girl, and we had the five boys. I don't know, y'all. Just house was just a Tornados tam growing up in my burning drive,

which is its projects, you know. So we we stayed pretty bus and you're talking about that going down and playing playing as a youngster, we used to go, we used to break going the chants and for you to get into the yeah it's okay, and we put tack on football and people just and that's why they would say man. And that's how they said, man, how you get some quick and how you can do this? And

I'm always I was gifted without man. When you played on concrete and we played the street to tackle football and you get hit, you fall on that cur a couple of times. You don't want to hit that curve. Room. Yeah, yeah, so that's that's what got me, got me a golden vic. How many times did you leave some skin on that concrete? Brot? But I put the pretty left. I left pretty together and my younger years once I got into older brother.

Once you, like I say, once you follow on that curve your ribs, you figure out the way, you figure something out. Similar story. We played in Chicago, but we played the street and we had cars. So you're throwing you know, you play on one way street down, pass it on. You're just trying not to run into the car. But yeah, it end so well. Yes, well we'll tell me. This is my last question for you man, could you feel the black form? We like to ask all. I guess this as well. Um, my name is Tony Dorset.

In my life right now is wonderful. I Uh with my family and my wife and my daughters, my son and my grandsons. Uh, that's what I'm all about. I love my family and being brought up with four older brothers, older sisters, with seven of us and just family family, and that was the thing that motivated me as as a kid. When I was playing ball, I would always look up. The first thing I would do was look up in the stands and see with my mom and dad,

we're seeing yeah. And I would always wait to him and I was say, my older brothers were checking me out, you know, and it was like, oh, man, David, David Alfred's critique me. But I wanted that kind of stuff and I wanted to be with my family kind of brought us all together and all that. So that was that was my whole deal. And as a kid, but I never dreamed that I was gonna I don't know the guy man. When I was I went to college. That's one hundred and forty five pounds I did. I

wasn't did the dream. Never dreamed that I was going to be a running back in college or even anybody go give me a scholarship, and so man I was. I was blessed. What was thissions did you play? You always play running back? What was you like a receiver or your dd bro? Bro? I was a mean bro I played. I was a defender first. There isn't that bro. Let me tell you. And I and I used to hit. Yeah, I told you they said you though, I said you, you gonna be the worst though, I said, And that's

angry I used to do. I used to tell what I was to go out on that field angry. I would people let people know that, Uh, I'm gonna show you. I'll show you what I could do. It's like a hundred forty pound jo I used to I used to I used to make some impact. So its a dB. I gotta have this question because I gotta know how he was hit him back in the day. Dude, were you the guy that all right, I know they see me, I'm still gonna try and light them up or you know,

just shodn't get him down. And then when they don't see me, that when my till and all you no bro, no, no, no, no, then they hadn't started. Yeah, it's changed there the offense and run to the other side. They didn't want to see you at all. Man, I was I was a monster back. I was very strong, monster back, monster man. I call him the moster. That's it. They called him. Yeah, the Monster's man. I score out there man monster right

and or monster man. And they just try to come back me until they found out saying, ah, man, you got we gotta run. We gotta run on the quay and can't get back that stuff that name. I had that little man syndrome. I was just boling. I couldn't do it. I can't do it, I said, y'all sor And for those that don't know monster back, I know he's talking about it's like a forty six, so it's more like a strong sap or roverback. But whenever the strong side is, you call it, you go send the

edge and you read anything coming downhill. Oh man, I did not know. We'm gonna sit down, Tony said, he is the most fired up talking about he has a nice shout out on that is they got talking about all the time, my monster back halls. So I want them to have been coming back to the dark side. Maybe you never should have laughed, so we come to the dark side, all right. Man. Well look mister, it's been a treatment an honor to have you on our show. Man.

Thank you so much for blessing us, and I look forward to Hall of Heisman FS one Aaron off through February. Y'all check it out the Man. Thank you to all our listeners out there, Tony Man, appreciate man, I got addressed, elephant in the room. You called me son at one point in time, y'all highlight all. Thank you. I just wouldn't saying thanks to all our listeners out there. Continue to give us a like a review, UH makes you hit follow and anyway you listen to your podcast apps,

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