The Season with Peter Schrager: Chargers OC Kellen Moore

The Season with Peter Schreger is a production of the NFL in partnership with iHeartRadio. What's Up, Everybody, Welcome Back to the Season with Peter Schreger, a brand new episode. As we head towards the July fourth weekend, I'm hoping that a lot of people are off the next few days and they've got long drives to see friends or long drives to visit family, and they're just gonna listen

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Following up from last week's show, Do we think Victor Wee Binnana is gonna get an invite?

Ooh? Does Victor go? Does Wemby go?

Yeah?

He was in New York.

He's not anymore, but he could come back. I'm gonna say no, I'm gonna say Wenby's got to earn those stripes first. I think we're gonna get EMBIID. I think we're gonna get hardened. Those guys are like, those guys are mainstays at all these things, and I think you're gonna get durant. NFL wise, Michael Parsons has been very tight with with Michael Rubin. They've been seen out together. I think that will be a definite. And I'm wondering if we get the big one. I don't know does

Thanks for having me.

I'm fired up, so excited to have you man, And it's kind of a cool part of your career right now. You've left the Nest if you will, You've been in Dallas all these years and now you're joining the Los Angeles Chargers. The announcement was made in January or so tell us what it's been like first six months with the Chargers and working with Justin Herbert specifically.

Yeah, yeah, I know, it's been so much fun. I mean, yeah, we're fortunate. We're in Dallas for eight years, very much became home, and so all our kids pretty much they only knew Dallas, and so we loved it.

There, had a ton of fun. Eight years in the NFL.

We know how the cycle of this thing sometimes goes, and so we're fortunate and it worked out great.

It was awesome.

I was fired up to be able to come down here to the Chargers to work with Brandon.

We kind of connected last.

Year we did a joint practice with the Dallas Cowboys and the LA Chargers, and so that was kind of initial connection there, and so we connected, stayed in contact like so many people do in this profession, and you know, it happened fast, but it worked out great, and so

It was fun. I was at the combine in Indianapolis and you walked by and I recognized your face, of course, and I knew it was you be all Chargers stuff on him, like, oh, that's different. Okay, I guess this is it. And it only feels different for him too.

It definitely feels new, which is exciting.

When I was in Dallas, I was fortunate I was around, you know, Jason was the head coach at the time, and I was fortunate to kind of be able to transition into the coaching side because of him and Scott, Lena Hand and those guys who were down there at the time, and then then to stay through the transition of Mike and so there's always kind of been an established situation there, and so you know, it was kind of a smoother transition, and so this one's been really

You know, taking.

Pieces that were already in place here, things that Justin's done such a good job with that we want definitely keep and keep incorporating and don't lose sight on any of those things.

Bring some Dallas stuff.

And then the third part was just hey, let's go explore together and let's have fun building this thing.

It's fun because I had Nathaniel Hackett on last week and it's it's not a similar situation because he's been with Rogers. And the only thing that I said was, now, Salah is the defensive head coach, and you've kind of have the green light. And for years he was with Marone and then he was of course with Lafleur, who were offensive coaches. You're similarly in that kind of boat,

Chart, it is a different dynamic.

It is fun just from the standpoint of, you know, us just building it however we want, you know, it is fun to kind of do those recap meetings. Brand and I tend to gravitate to each other towards the end of the day, just recap, okay, what happened on each side of the ball, what we meet about, and

We have Good Morning Football during the year, and we do the show five days a week and it's three hours, and we're always on in the morning, and it's always talking about the young quarterbacks, and it's like Mahomes, Burrow, Allen, and I'm always chiming in Herbert Herbert, and it's like, and Tilly has that big playoff success, and maybe Tilly has that huge print. He might not be considered the same way those guys are, But you've had a chance

Yeah, no doubt. Justin's been phenomenal.

I think a the person, awesome person, one of the simplest people I've ever met.

You know this explain that because I kind of know, but I don't see it day to day.

I just see the one of the simpler people in the world for his situation and the potential out there for him as a person off the field.

Very simple person.

I Meanven came in when I got here, I mean, he just basically did rehab. He'd come in for a couple hours, do you rehab, you run into him, he'd head out. Maybe you'd go up to Eugene and you know, be back in the hometown. And other than that, you know, he didn't explore a whole lot. And so he's been awesome, awesome to work with. He's been a ton of fun just collaborating on this thing. When you step on the field,

Kind of look at the back of TBS and say, hey, first of all, don't try that.

Second of all, I would have never considered throwing that, but maybe we should start considering that.

So it's pretty awesome.

Yeah, And I guess with your offense with him, Like you guys put up such huge numbers in Dallas for years, and there was a vertical game and there's a downfield game. And if you read the Chargers blogs, you listen to the Chargers podcast, the assumption is like, all right, it's gonna be bombs away Air Coriel style here with Kellen

Yeah, I think, you know, certainly everyone wants us to throw it deep every place. So we'll see if that works, you know, we'll test it out.

But you know, I think what.

It allows us to do is, you know, Justin's such a smart decision maker. It allows you to really call it in an aggressive manner, and he does such a great job. We always say, aggressively take what they give us, Like, if they give us these shots, they give us something vertical. We got these skill players that we feel really really good about. Just take him, just go for it, you know, and if not, take the completion, take the check down.

Yeah, I I can hear the excitement in everybodys You mentioned him being just a simple dude. Like I remember during the pre draft build up, he goes on he wins Rose Bowl MVP when Senior Bowl MVP shows up and like blows everyone away at the combine, competes at the combine, and the talk was like literally it was

One hundred percent.

I think, like anyone you grow into leadership, you know, it gets it gets bigger and bigger, better and better. However you want to view it each and every year. I mean, this is fourth year, you know, and based off everything I've seen experience with and around him. You know, this year, he's been phenomenal. He's had presence, he's he's been very open and willing to stand up in front of the entire room on offense, share his perspective, give

They played the Raiders on a Thursday night two years ago and it was the first time Akman and Buck were doing a Chargers game with Herbert and he made a pass across his body and Aikman just like is like, oh my god, he just like laws it. And I'm like, that's what he has the capability of. And then you add in this what I would call just what seems like a professional football team, but also potentially an NBA starting five at receiver with the height that you guys have,

Yeah, com and versatility on the offense, which I think we're really really excited about, you know, use guys in different positions, align them in different ways, and utilize all that. Certainly we'd like to say, like, you know, we got so much height on this team, we're gonna be throwing in a different jet stream, you know, like these guys.

And then a great offensive line. We know that Slater goes down and then this kid Seller shows up last year, and then obviously with the rookies, ion like their offensive line was awesome last year despite major injuries.

One of my favorite things was the when I first got here.

We spent our first week and because the offensive staff was pretty much the same other than the quarterback coach Doug Nasmeyer came from Dallas, it was the same staff that've been here last year. So the first week I basically just sat there and listened to everyone, and so it was a really cool They basically went through the roster and one gave their perspective on every player that

Was he six, a sixth round pick and played left tacker in the NFL. Yeah, the rookie, Like that's incredible.

And just like from the first snap, just like, okay, I'll take over this left tackle spot. That's nothing big for me. I played at Georgia. I played four years at Georgia. Nothing's that big to me. But it's a really cool group. You know, it's a really young group that's developing and kind of coming together. And then you got Corey in the middle kind of as that veteran anchor center, and so I think it's like this perfect blend for those guys.

I love it. Your story is so cool. Take us back to Prosser, Washington. What that town is? How many people and how in the world you made it out of there to be, you know, an NFL offensive coordinator and obviously seem to be a head coach.

Yeah, So we were just there this past weeks. Make our rounds through Prosser, Washington. If anyone knows that, you shouldn't he shouldn't know where that is. But it's a town of six thousand people southeastern Washington. It's not the rainy Seattle. It's the desert on the east side. No one knows that. Half the people in the world don't know there's a desert.

I did not know there was a desert part of Washington. This is a mission, all right.

It's all agriculture and all that good stuff. But small little town. My dad was our high school coach, so he was the head football coach for for really, you know, forever until we got to college. But uh, it kind of had that Friday night lights feel to it, you know, like that's that's how I grew up. I grew up wanting to be a Prosper Mustang all honestly, I didn't really you know, college or something. Yeah, you'd love to do that, you'd love to do the NFL, but like

So made me a couple of legends from the program from before you. I love this stuff.

Oh my gosh, well, I'm number eleven because a Dan Marshatt he was, he was number eleven.

He's a receiver.

I was getting right into the right into the youth football stage. And I was like, Dan's my guy.

I want to forget Randy Moss, forget Chris Carter, forget any of the sea. That's my guy.

Marsha Yep, yep, damn.

So, uh, you know there's all these quarterbacks Tyler Thomas who there weren't a ton of guys who ever like went to like Division one.

There was only a couple of us. Tyler Thomas ended up going.

To Oregon State. He was a quarterback. Man, I can go on and on, can I give you every single quarterback from But.

I love that. And this is a town that I've I've read up on it. Two stoplights right, two traffic lights?

Yeah, oh yeah, we upgrade. We got three now three?

Okay? Are we talking like an outback? And Applebee's is that even there? Or is it like the general store?

No?

No, McDonald's, KFC, Taco Bell. It's a it's a hybrid, which is unique.

Starbucks.

Uh, the Bucks made it there right from stars.

Yeah, you gotta have a Starbucks. It's kind of on your way from one place to the other. They snuck a Starbucks in there, but other than that, a couple of local restaurants and that's about it.

And I know you would go to these Boise State youth football camps, right, is that part of your childhood? And I guess your father would bring you to the blue field. Like where did that Boise stay thing come from?

Yeah, so when I was really young, my dad, uh so he was our obviously our head football coach.

They would go to like a team football camp.

So they'd bring the entire high school team to these camps and they spend a week there and early it was always at Boise, so they'd always go there. Uh So we always kind of have this uh you know, fondness of Boise. I remember it as a child child. And so as a high school coach's kid, you kind of what your spring breaks are and what your summers

When you got recruited to Boise State. Is this because I don't have the timeline in front of me. So everyone remembers the Fiesta Ball. It's Adrian Peterson and Oklahoma and Jared Zabranski and Ian Johnson and Boise knockoff. Were you on that team? Were you being recruited to be on that team? I know you came after Zabranski, so I'm not sure if you were like a red shirt or your back up or what.

No.

So I'm a senior in high school. I'm at the game. I'm down in that end zone.

Yep.

I went to the game. I was already committed to Boise so I was. I was all wrapped up and ready to go. And yeah, I was at the game. It was awesome.

Saw the proposal at the end that was in the end zone you were in or.

No, yep, I was right down that end zone. Yep.

So you get there and then Boise he becomes one of the primitive programs in the country. You guys would roll off the wins for the listeners. You are the all time leader and wins as a quarterback, which is an amazing feat and it comes up anytime a young quarterback like Desmon Rider came out. I think he's third maybe, And I was mentioned literally every time Ridder had anything

Yeah, it was just this utopia of a culture. Chris Pierce is the absolute best. He has this perfect blend of you know, he spends so much time, I think on the culture and the environment. He really calls it an environment because everyone needs the word culture, but just just building this environment that allows everyone to kind of blossom. And so I always remember two things there, one being you know, how much time he spent on building the program,

So Harry got this huge game, huge game against the Vada coming up, and you've got the two ranked teams. Give me on national TV, and he's given you life lessons the night before game.

Yeah, yeah, some poem about life. And it was awesome. It was absolutely awesome. It was also a unique team because as most people probably no Boise, Idaho doesn't exactly have twenty Division one players rolling around, you know, the state, and so it was this super diverse team. I mean, we had people from all across the country, all across the world.

We had guys from.

Netherlands, Canada, Florida, New Jersey, California.

You know. I was kind of part of.

The little small Northwest crew, and so you have this huge diversity of this team, and so it's a really cool melting pot of just bringing all these guys together. And I think that's one of the things that I always we were talking about as a team as an offense right before we broke about how this football thing brings us to people we never connect with them any

And so that's what's really fun.

It's awesome. I always say that, you know, there's all these issues in the country, and there's divide and division,

You're getting at No, we certainly feel that way.

All right, left handed quarterback obviously at Boise was that held against you think as you entered the NFL draft as that thing kind of faded away. I think at one point the last couple year before two of there were no left handed quarterbacks.

Yeah.

It reminds me of a question, you know, it's like a ridiculous question, like, so you know, what's it like being a left handed quip? But well, I've always been a left handed quarterback obviously.

Yeah.

But there were you know, Steve Young, Michael Vick, all those guys probably when you were growing up, and then it kind of faded away.

Yeah, yeah, no, it's it's definitely. I think a lot of people got smarter. They went to baseball. You know, you're a left the ls or stuff, spably go play that sport instead. But no, yeah, it's certainly something that I think is a unique dynamic. To be honest, I think there was some feedback going into the NFL that like, hey, if our starter is not a lefty, like we really don't want to have a lefty behind him, you know. And now the game was a lot more under center.

Let's go through them, because I mean it was probably you. And then I'm thinking like Tyler fig Pin or Palco, which one of those one of those things?

Left Canfield from Oregon State Sean, Yeah, Sean Canfield, Michael Vick, Tim Tebow, Matt Lionert, Pat White might have been you know, had actually coaches with us.

So we got a couple of lefties on the staff.

Yeah that's cool.

We're fire if we got to keep the lefties together. But uh, there's one or two more. But at one point it was a little bit more normal and lo and behold. Uh we went through a point where I think there's a couple of years, two or three years where we have no lefties.

Finally two came and saved the day. So hopefully we get a couple more.

Uh yeah, the way that the world moves whatever. So the Dolphin job becomes open after they let go Brian Floora. Do you interviewed for that job? Do you come in with like a PowerPoint deck saying like I am the lefty quarterback guy, Like what are we doing here? I know the job especially goes to Mike McDaniel and it's all going to work out for everyone. But yeah, you gotta think that was your pitch right. Yeah.

Yeah, I'm a lefty. He's a lefty. You know, I'm the one guy I can teach him.

I can feel it.

This is it.

It is interesting though that, like you said, the baseball stuff, and you know, we talk about specialization in sports, and now youths are told, like, you pick this one sport. I've heard you speak on it before. You don't believe in that, right, play all sports.

Yeah, I'm a small town kid.

We played every sport. We grew up together. It's the same pack of kids. We went from football to basketball to baseball.

At one point, I eventually kind of, you know, didn't do baseball by stuck with football and basketball the way to the end.

And so I think it's huge. I think it's so important.

I think there's too many examples across our league, across other leagues of guys who played a lot of different things and all those skills kind of translate to something in the.

End it works out. One of my favorite men in the NFL, and I know a mentor of yours, is Jim Caldwell. When you were in Detroit, you obviously were under his guys, and he speaks with such a I don't reverence Like I don't even know how to say it.

Yeah, it was such a cool experience for me because being in the NFL, you think college football NFL like they got They're so different, right, and so you're fortunate to be around this Chris Peterson experience which is second to none. And then you meet Jim in the NFL. And the first time I met him, spent fifteen minutes with him. He knew my name, he knew everything about me.

Part I want to take.

At that point, Yeah, I think college was kind of confirmation. But then when you're in the NFL, you know, it's like, Okay, that's a different experience in college football, and can you really do it in a certain way, you know, or does everyone just you know, college and NFL there they're just different beasts and he can't do it that way. His presence and his ability to kind of in a more mild manner, have such command and presence in an

Was there one piece of advice that you've held onto or one line or one statement or one quote that you kind of brought with you along the way. I hate to put you on the spot.

That's a great question.

There's so many, you know, or Loski and so you know, when I was there as Matthew, Dan and myself, I just remember these team meetings and I just remember all the informations.

I couldn't keep up. You know, I'm sitting there trying to write all these notes of.

All these you know, he always called it the charge in the season, and every like Wednesday could have some sort of like piece and it would be something. I'm just sitting there trying to like write these notes quick as possible. Now I'm looking over at Dan, like what did you get? You can catch like I'm trying to piece this whole thing together because I want all this information. But he had a really cool piece. He had a high cost for low living. It was a piece that

Your favorite Matthew Stafford throw while you were in Detroit? Is there a game a moment where you can go back and say you're standing on the sidelines, either you're dressed or or not, and you're just like, holy moly, what was that? Because I, as I often say when I interviewed Code, it's like I was a sideline reporter and I was not on the A crew. So I got a lot of Lions games under my belt. I was very there's a lot of Hey, what's up to Sam Martin going on on the sidelines there? So is

There are a lot, and I'll give you two. The first one is against the Bengals. I think this is two thousand and thirteen, I'm gonna guess. So it was a half rolls like a sprint out to the right. As we're rolling out and we're just gonna run a double move to Calvin Johnson and he's gonna run a little corner post and we're gonna kind of try and roll out to the right and then throw back to the left. And first of all, to throw is tremendous, Right,

You know, I'm on the sideline I'm just the backup guy hanging out. It doesn't really look open.

It's about three or four Bengals jerseys down there, you know, George I Loka a Boise State Bronco being one of them down there, and he just throws this sucker throws up in the air and you just see Calvin just run right through all these people go up, leap it, grab this ball. I remember talking to George after the game. He's like, I don't know what we can do. I can't stop this guy. And it was a moment of like sometimes like you know what, it's players, not plays, you know, like those two.

Guys are super human at what they're doing. It's fun to watch.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, no doubt.

What was the other one?

And then the second one I would think of is we played in London in twenty fourteen.

Golden tates on the outside.

We just ran like three verts, it's like third and forever, and he rips a ball down the sideline.

He kind of drops back, it's a little bit of depth.

He steps up in the pocketing and just rips this ball down the right sidelines to Golden. I mean, it's gotta be fifty yards frozen rope. I don't think the ball is more than ten twelve feet off the ground the entire time, just rips it right between these cover two, safety and corner. I don't think anyone even considered he'd actually throw that in that situation, and he just rips this thing right in the end zone.

It was incredible.

Yeah, all right, So then you finish your time with Detroit, you go to Dallas. Scott Lenihan was there, and I imagine that's one of the reasons why it was a natural thing. I don't have it in front of me. I know that Romo was there obviously, and then the year Romo got hurt and Dak goes in, you were hurt also that summer, if I'm not mistaken. So it's like this like sliding doors moment, where like who knows

I don't lose sleep now because I think everything happens for a reason, and it kind of led me to this coaching thing, which I'll get to. But at the time, Yeah, So twenty fifteen, I played a couple games. At the end, we were kind of, you know, we struggled that year. A lot of us end up paying quarterback Matt Castle, Whedon,

I break my ankle. So I went back to.

Dallas, got surgery, kind of sitting there on the couch and I just remember you're watching because Tony was kind of dealing with some maintenance stuff at that point already with the back, and so Dak was taking a ton of reps in practice. He's basically taken ones, twos, and three. He's just going And they played that first game against the Rams and preseasons the first game in the LA Coliseum, and uh, he just goes out there and just is dealing and is incredible.

There's two amazing touchdown passes if I remember, Yeah.

And then I think, you know, they come back, they playing Dallas and the next week is at Seattle and that's where Tony you know, Tony's back goes out and he gets sacked, you know, just a kind of a freak deal, and Dak rolls out there and deals again. You know, And certainly in the back of your mind, as a competitor, you're kind of like, man like, there's a chance here, and I kind of missed the boat there, you know, And certainly there's a competitive side of you

They allowed me to kind of stay stay in it.

I was in the quarterback room trying to be a resource or help in any possible way. Tony was rehabbing, Dak was the starter. Now Sanchez Mark Sanchez being Mark. He got signed like on Tuesday. So there's a lot of movie pieces in this in this room, and so there's an element of, hey, can you just stay in there? So there's at least some commonality there for Scott and for Wade Wilson, who was our quarterback coach at the time.

But I think it.

Also gave Jason and Scott a chance to kind of see me from that perspective, which lo and behold allowed me to transition right from player to coach two years later. And so I think without that moment, I don't think I'm doing that. I think, you know, most people would say you're crazy to go from player to coach.

To allow that to happen in the NFL.

Can you put that then in like a more concise thing, like just as a lesson, because I think of that situation, you've played your entire career waiting for your opportunity. Finally the opportunity arises and you can't physically go, and yet you found a way to pivot and make the most of the opportunity. I think that's a beautiful lesson for anyone in life.

Yeah.

Yeah, I think we work our tail off for certain goals and aspirations, and sometimes life pivots and takes you to the path that maybe leads you down something else. And certainly, as a player, you want to play as long as you can. But I always knew I wanted to coach, and so I think the transition that allowed me to go through was tremendous. And sometimes you don't understand it going through it. You don't understand why me,

And now I look at it like in Denver and I'm friendly with Sean Payton. He hired Davis Webb, a twenty eight year old, as the quarter best coach. I'm not gonna say you broke down those doors, but you certainly laid the blueprint of Hey, it's possible for these guys to go straight from the playing field to the coaching Yeah.

Yeah, And I was fortunate.

I basically moved one chair over, you know, instead of being next to the computer, I was running the computer. Other than that, it was the same room, and so you know, I was really fortunate for that. I think it was a lot of fun.

You can go as long or as quick as you want on this if I just say the name, and you did say he was one of the great here with Dak Prescott, because I feel like we take it for granted. What a guy is Walter Payton Man of the Year and he goes out there and he's got such consistency when he's on the field and yet hasn't won the big one in There are always critics with it. But as a player and as a man, your experience with Dak Prescott, what would you want listeners to know?

The best person?

I think the best leader I've ever been around, easily and in all honesty, player or coach or anything. I think his ability to connect with a team and all spectrums is rare and I've never seen it in any other way. His work, ethic, his command, I think he's InCred and so I know, you know, we've all been through that Dallas journey and he has a phenomenal way of being a deal with probably more than your average

Forever root for.

That's awesome, man. All Right, we do rapid fire. I was asked you some quick questions about philosophy, about your history in the NFL, and we we wrap it up. I'm loving this and I appreciate you taking the time, especially during this vacation week from it all. You would say your mentor in football is whom I.

Would say My two most prominent ones are my dad across from Mustangs and Chris Peterson, not just those two stops of life. Uh yeah, I think those those were the foundations for who I am.

You played with guys like Calvin Johnson, You've also played with, uh, you played with superstars like does Brynt. You play with all these great NFL players. The most freakish athlete that you have played with in NFL is who.

Calvin by by far like Calvin I think was just he's just different. And like you know, I remember the first time, so I'm a rookie, I show up to OTA's and they got we're in the red zone for some reason, I think it had a ben a screw up. Calvin's on the field when I'm on the field, which shouldn't be going on on the thirst and QB and we call a red zone play and there's like two guys in the back line and I happened to throw to the guy on the right, who was Titus Young at the.

Time that I had played with Poise and.

Matthew and Sean Hill be in the backup at the time, who's phenomenal.

He just looks at me and.

Says, if that other guy's ever on the field, just throw.

It to.

The rest of the time and for whatever reason that guy's on the field, just throw it to him.

And that was like the simplest lesson.

Hey, that guy's different than any other human being that you'll ever be around.

Yeah, growing up, who is the player? And you mentioned those those mustangs that you liked. But who was the player in the NFL that you aspired to be or that you saw and said, hey, maybe someday.

Growing up to the Northwest. So bec was my guy?

Really? I love that.

I loved his presence, you know that.

I think he would really love hearing that. Does he know that? Have you told me?

I hope he does.

I am a disciple of the Matt Hasselbeck Passing Academy.

Okay, so this is a camp that he put on.

Oh yeah he put on yep.

I think I'm one of like two guys whoever got out of there that you know.

Got to the NFL.

But I was there, you know, Seneca Wallace was my camp counselor yeah, you know, and that was that was my guy. I loved his command, the way he's played, like the he was always having fun like that was the coolest thing to me. It was like, this is the NFL and this guy's just like smiling, having fun, loving this thing.

Who is the biggest personality that you've come across in the NFL.

Oh that's interesting.

You can take that anywhere you want, the biggest alpha, the most hilarious, whoever it is.

Yeah, that is a great question, and I got, Man, you can go a lot of different ways here.

I think biggest personality, like Dez was so much fun.

Yeah, I think because is you know, he's like a kid in the sense that when he was playing there, and I say that in the most positive way, like he just wanted to throw up, play catch.

All day, just pure joy during warm ups. The trainers coming up to me at the Cowboys being like, we have to keep an eye on des because he gets so excited during warm ups. Like I love that there.

I mean, he'll he'll grab every equipment guy, every like strength coach. He just wants to play catch the entire pregame and even during practice, like if the defense is going he's over there like hey, hey, come over here to the other field, like I just want I just want to run some routs and catch like and he just wants to catch all day long.

And I thought it was so cool, Like it was the most fun. Uh. He truly just loved playing football.

I love that. Do you have a good Jerry Jones story that's like I say, safe for but you know it does Jerry Jones story that we could all say that's pretty cool.

Oh, I love Jerry I could think of two, probably one being for my first three or four years, he thought I was keeling, but I was the third string QB, so I something else say a word?

So why would you even even.

When I was first the uh, you know, I first got a chance to be the coordinator, I think I was still keeling at the time, but I wasn't gonna saying things I keeling everyone's while I was calling.

Uh.

But you know, you just kind of go with it, you know, like, hey, I'm.

Going Jerry, Joe, I'm happy, I don't care. Yeah, yeah.

And so in Dallas there was there tended to be a little bit of running joke of I was keeling, not killing. But you know, the other one I would think of was when we first got to the Star. This is probably twenty seventeen, they're eighteen, one of those one of those OTA times, And for people to understand the Star, there's a lot of commercial stuff going on around it as well as the football, right and so anyways,

But that is so good.

Yeah, I love it. You know. Jerry's Jerry's the absolute best.

The biggest show in town. Man, it is, And I think he's still everyone what he does. The other owners still in a lot of ways still follow He's still the leader of that group, and of course the NFL, he's one of the biggest characters himself. My last question, your message to Chargers fans as we head to twenty twenty three and they're so excited. In fact, I was looking at a podcast. It's like the Lockdown Chargers podcast. It's like, are we too excited for Kellen Moore's offense?

Yeah, I think we're just gonna have fun. We're just gonna go for it.

I think that's the biggest thing that we're excited for is we got a group who can do do some really good things, and we're excited to build this thing for twenty twenty three. And so whatever that offense ends up looking like as we go through training camp.

We'll build it however we need to. But you know, we're gonna be aggressive. We're going to go for it.

I said in the monologue that there's an annual party out in the Hamptons in New York and it's thrown by Michael Rubin, who's the CEO of Fanatics, and the biggest stars in music and the biggest stars in the NBA go and every year there's a couple of NBA guys that make it. Would you say, Justin Herbert's probably not going to be at that.

Party, probably not, Probably not Gene Oregon.

He'll be a Eugene, Oregon watching fireworks from a far distance away thinking about football, which is probably a good thing. Kellen Moore, this was awesome. We appreciate you taking the time. You went forty minutes, went over time with us, and I can't say how excited I am enough for this Chargers offense with you and Herbert together, But I also

No appreciate it. Thanks Peter.

That was awesome, Kellen Moore. Great if you're a Chargers fan, you got to come away from that thing just feeling confident that you're in competent hands and Justin herbertson a very good situation. To you guys, the listeners, Thanks so much. Enjoy your July fourth weekend. Continue to subscribe. Tell your friends I don't think any other podcast is doing it the way we are. We're getting these guys that don't have to do it. They're doing it voluntarily. This isn't